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| 1 | Is there a connection between "blueness" and below-replacement fertility rates/shrinking societies?How does this theory explain below-replacement birth rates in China and Japan? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/15 06:25 AM |
| 1 | If TRP advocates men to fuck "sluts" and marry "virgins," then why the whining with women fucking "alphas" and marrying "betas"?I can't tell if this is sarcasm? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/15 06:19 AM |
| 1 | Blue Pillers: Why is the TRP strategy on LMRs wrong?Absolutely. As I've said multiple times, coercing people with sex (or by withholding it) is not a gendered phenomenon. However, this isn't ask RPW. TRP is concerned mainly with men, so I think it's fair to only really focus on the strategies men are employing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/15 02:20 AM |
| 1 | Blue Pillers: Why is the TRP strategy on LMRs wrong?Man everybody in this thread is putting words into my mouth. Nobody is obligated to stay, and leaving is fine, if you're leaving because you want to leave. It becomes problematic when you are leaving because you're trying to make them want to have sex with you. If you're leaving solely as a means of applying pressure, that's coercion. If you're doing a freeze with the intention of getting them to 'cave' and bang you because they're insecure about you withdrawing, that's a shitty/manipulative thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/15 02:17 AM |
| 1 | Blue Pillers: Why is the TRP strategy on LMRs wrong?Neither is better are worth: both are coercion, and both are shitty things to do to somebody. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/15 02:15 AM |
| 1 | Blue Pillers: Why is the TRP strategy on LMRs wrong?There is nothing whatsoever wrong with ultimatums. Ignoring the coercion argument "if we ignore the primary reason ultimatums are wrong, there's nothing wrong with ultimatums" Why do you (seem to) think a woman is entitled to a man's energy if she is unwilling to satisfy his wants? Not at all what I'm saying. Nobody is 'entitled' to anything from anyone else (at least when it comes to sex and intimacy). I'm saying that coercing somebody into sex is wrong. Or to flip the script, why do you (seem … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/15 02:13 AM |
| 1 | Blue Pillers: Why is the TRP strategy on LMRs wrong?So what options does that leave me? I can't de-escalate without it being pressure, I can't press forward without it being pressure - I'm stuck in an eternal holding pattern? No thanks. Pass. In another comment chain in this thread I explained how intention is 1/2 of a crime. I'd say it applies here too; de-escalation alone isn't necessarily bad; in fact there's plenty situations where it may be good. It's when you de-escalate as a means of applying pressure that it becomes bad. If you de-escalat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 06:57 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pillers: Why is the TRP strategy on LMRs wrong?This is not LMR. If a woman has truly decided she doesn't want to have sex, it's not LMR. Well then what is? My conception of LMR is that you have the girl in bed and she says she doesn't want to have sex (for whatever reason) and so you attempt to 'overcome' that. Let's just stop this right now!" and pulling away entirely, displaying both total control over my sex drive (which drives women nuts) and my total lack of attachment to an outcome (which is truly authentic - why would I want to have s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 02:41 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pillers: Why is the TRP strategy on LMRs wrong?I understand what you mean sort of, but the problem is that this basically boils down to shaming any kind of male sexuality, because you are demonizing not actions but intrinsic desires. Alright I'll just open it here. This isn't gendered. Coercion can be done by either sex, and it's immoral either way. Second, coercion is an action, not a desire. The intrinsic desire here would be to have sex. Coercion is the action one would use to achieve the desire. It's absolutely possible to want to have s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 02:25 AM |
| 2 | CMV: The Red Pill's views on feminism is outdated.Well, by all means, don't keep me in suspense. Also, I'm offended that you assume I'm 'jumping on a bandwagon' and support this because it has the feminist brand. It may shock you, but you're not the only one capable of individual thought, and it may shock you, but I actually do support most of these motions independent of their 'brand'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 01:40 AM |
| 1 | Blue Pillers: Why is the TRP strategy on LMRs wrong?I think there is a difference between asking for consent vs. coercing. Hopefully I don't need to explain to you the difference between asking once and nagging. Similarly, there is a difference between 'freezing' and respecting the no. If she gives you a no, getting up and leaving is a world away from dialling it back and staying in the boundaries of a yes. "no I don't want to have sex" doesn't always mean "leave my place right now" and framing it in these zero-sum terms of 'we go all the way' or… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 01:24 AM |
| 3 | CMV: The Red Pill's views on feminism is outdated.Only problems I see are 2, 13, so where's the problem? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/15 02:28 PM |
| -1 | Blue Pillers: Why is the TRP strategy on LMRs wrong?All adults should know better and be able to leave an uncomfortable situation rather than let them get coerced into doing something they don't want to do. They should, but they don't. Also, coercion isn't as cut and dry as you're portraying it. One of the most common responses to LMR is the 'freeze'; stop cuddling, stop being affectionate, turn the light on, get dressed, leave, etc. This functions as an ultimatum for the woman: fuck me, or lose me. Obviously, your view of coercion (leave or do s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/15 11:06 PM |
| 1 | Why do Bluepillers object so stridently sexual realpolitik?More of a conceptual image of what TRP believes which you have internalized to some extent, as shown in your OP that I responded to | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/15 10:38 PM |
| 3 | Discussion: If Jesus were alive today, would He be Redpill?Actually that's literally exactly what he did. Assuming premarital sex is a sin, and Jesus died so that all sinners could be redeemed, then yes God sent Jesus to die so that college sluts could rack up double digit cock counts and not burn in hell for it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/15 04:41 PM |
| 2 | Blue Pillers: Why is the TRP strategy on LMRs wrong?I think because the standard way of conceptualizing LMR in TRP implies coercion. When TRP talks about LMR, they talk about 'overcoming' LMR, convincing her to change her mind, etc. If this really is the case than it basically boils down to coercion. The woman has decided she doesn't want to have sex, and then the man applies pressure either directly (asking, nagging, touching, etc) or indirectly (going cold, leaving, stopping conversation, etc) until she cracks and 'changes' her mind back to a y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/15 04:36 PM |
| 1 | Why do Bluepillers object so stridently sexual realpolitik?Have it your way, but be aware that part of your philosophy is based on a logical inconsistency you don't even understand | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/15 04:24 PM |
| 1 | Why is every women's/feminist sub a "safe space"?I'm going to take a stab at it fuck it Reddit is overwhelmingly male. I don't have the stats handy but it's no secret this website is dominated by men, I think around 80% but I'm not sure. However, past the super-structure level, reddit is actually quite segregated. People branch off into little communities where it's possible to keep a focused discussion and surround oneself with like-minded people. However, there are no gateways to these communities; anybody can enter, and anybody can comment.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/15 12:09 AM |
| 0 | Why do Bluepillers object so stridently sexual realpolitik?The bulk of your post seems to imply that male preference for female appearance varies, which is true to an extent, but ultimately its still based primarily on appearance, and doesn't really vary THAT much Not appearance. Attractiveness. Appearance is one part of the equation yes, but it isn't the only part; personality, lifestyle, etc. all factor in too. Most of the time, guys can at least agree that a certain girl is hot, just not their type, This is exactly what I'm saying. It's 100% possible… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/15 11:50 PM |
| 2 | Why do Bluepillers object so stridently sexual realpolitik?I think the difference between the redpill and bluepill position here is subjectivity. Nobody is arguing that people don't individually rank the people around them on a 'I'd hit that' scale or something like that. The difference is that bluepill thinks these measures are subjective, while redpill assumes they're objective. To elaborate: I'm a BP man and as far as I know these measures are subjective. I met a lot of women in my day to day and many of them I find attractive; however, what I find a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/15 08:38 PM |
| 4 | Hatred and misogynyIt's not that TRP 'observes' women as inferior in some ways. Rather, its that they define men/masculinity as the embodiment of almost every respectable quality (outgoing, economically independent, rational, honest, integrity, etc) and define women as the exact opposite, embodying the negative qualities (irrational, manipulative, economically dependent, liars, etc). and claim that this this the natural, biological spread of traits. Then, this is used to justify treating them like shit; if women a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/15 08:24 PM |
| 1 | What are some of your experiences with people of the opposite pill in the wild?Met two self-described PUAs on New Years this year, that once funny. Dude one looked to be about 50lbs, short geeky looking mother fucker. Dude two was about 250lbs and 5ft10, white guy in a full tracksuit (why the fuck he wore a track suit to the bar on new years is beyond me, looked like a rapper that fell into a time warp in 2004). Overall they were pretty cringe. Thought they were in some secret club (me and my buddy were loling the whole time). Also thought they were top shit and were hypin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/15 07:58 PM |
| 1 | Existence of the Alpha MaleYou either know what you want and don't get what you want, or get what you want and don't know what you want | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/15 07:53 PM |
| 1 | Existence of the Alpha MaleI wouldn't say it's that the alpha male doesn't exist, it's that it's unattainable. As a concept, there is definitely an idolized image on masculinity; strong, autonomous, out going, bold, rational, dangerous, stoic, callous, hetero etc. Best two examples I can think of is Tyler Durden and Batman The thing is that it's impossible to become the alpha male; it's an unattainable goal. It's impossible to embody all these traits at once without becoming incredibly psychologically stunted; to become B… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/15 07:52 PM |
| 2 | BPers, what do you think TRPers are like in real life? TRPers, what are you like in real life?'zion was part of the matrix' Brilliant man | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/15 07:42 PM |
| 1 | Exactly how should consent be performed?If you can't read body language well enough to be able to tell when someone has frozen up in panic, you'd fucking better ask for consent you shouldn't be having sex Hey, fixed it for you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/14 04:35 PM |
| 1 | Exactly how should consent be performed?It also doesn't seem sexy. Nor does trying to finger a girl who is "frozen in fear" but hey, who am I to judge | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/14 04:33 PM |
| 1 | Is the asymmetrical dynamic of hetero PIV sex worth talking about?Okay, sure, doesn't change my point, which is that just b/c something is a risk doesn't mean that it's bad or shouldn't be done. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/14 04:23 PM |
| 1 | BPers: What do you think women want in men?The ability to listen, and confidence | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/14 04:18 PM |
| 1 | How can people who may as well have radically different backgrounds and experiences debate about this?TRP claims universality for it's ideas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/14 04:17 PM |
| 1 | Perspectives on '6 Reasons to Cheat on your Girlfriend' from all pills please.One reason to not cheat on your girlfriend (from somebody who did): you have to live with yourself after. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/14 04:13 PM |
| 4 | Would you consider it good advice for a woman to advise another on the risks of investing, heavily financially and emotionally with an alleged former "player" or "pua" type?As a former player, now blue, I personally will warn women about that type, so yes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/14 04:03 PM |
| 1 | Is the asymmetrical dynamic of hetero PIV sex worth talking about?Just because something has risk doesn't mean it's bad or shouldn't be done; you take a risk getting behind the wheel of a car, does that mean we should all walk to work? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/14 03:38 PM |
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