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This is only anecdotal but, me and my wife have has 3-4-somes more than a few times and we've been together for almost 14 years. However I wouldn't call it an 'open' marriage and aside from one other couple I've seen it mostly used as an excuse to ease into cheating. So I think it can go either way depending on true intentions.
/r/RedPillWomen27/07/17 09:01 PM
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Kitchen stuff can be intimidating to start if you've never done it. My dad taught me how to cook so I do it well enough that I attracted a wife that doesn't know how to cook. Now that we're in the position where I'm working a lot and she's at home a lot there's a struggle to get food on the table. I have to make MRCs (meals ready to cook) , prepped dishes to put in the oven so she can learn to not die while I'm at work. Same goes for a lot of things. Personally I went through the same song and d…
/r/RedPillWomen03/06/17 05:35 PM
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Thats probably why people say ideal guys have beta traits mixed in. In general I think men want to provide, sometimes to a pathological level, but with some guys, when they provide all the funds to a home they see it as the beginning and end of their contribution to a family. They worked hard to get the capital to support the house so feel they don't need to be bothered with the menial stuff because someone 'feels bad'. They built the castle so need to enjoy it not handle the serf duties. Me, I …
/r/RedPillWomen03/06/17 04:57 PM
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The past few days, my wife has been sick. Since her job was my old job, part time and lax about how things get done I filled in. Yesterday I did my job plus overtime, her job plus some extra construction that was needed there, and some house chores. I left home groomed and fresh at 8am, came home at 1am covered in water, cuts and grease. And this is while coming down from my own sickness and six hours of sleep with mostly red bull and a bowl of teriyaki chicken over rice the whole day. Men will …
/r/RedPillWomen01/06/17 08:05 PM
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I will say, sure but not particularly interested in the muscles so much as the fitness. I found that I'm mostly attracted to slender petite women or fluffy women (not fat but not models). Being hard as opposed to soft is not as attractive but it's still kinda attractive until she starts resembling a man. I grew up admiring She-hulk, Xena: Warrior Princess, and Boris Vallejo art so I'd say that's my upper limit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 11:23 AM
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How muscular?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 11:01 AM
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I agree but I have rape fantasies about raping someone into a willing participant. This also means that I also have fantasies of being raped
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 05:18 PM
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Just wanted to note that communication is great and a lot of problems can be resolved by honest communication, but sometimes it's a catch 22. For example; I would express to my wife that I'm not satisfied with the amount of sex we're having. That's a valid feeling to have but more often than not it results in her feeling pressured for sex even if I ring it up once and not harshly, another valid feeling. I wind up with a wife who's less in the mood because now sex has an obligation component to i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 04:35 PM
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I don't think that's what it means in context. Otherwise I'm happily a beta male because instead of enforcing territory I prepare food and sneak breed all the ladies that come looking for something to eat. (My main courtship skill is cooking. bitches love my cooking.) No wait, that's more like a rooster. Nevermind.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 10:03 PM
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Nothing in the article surprised me. In fact it's mostly the most obvious things. The answer to the porn one, though is not a decent answer, although a decent answer exists, and the math one seems like it goes on when the answer is one sentence long.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 10:20 AM
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I've been seeing this number around lately, where is it coming from?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 01:13 PM
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And the constant variation allows them to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 01:51 AM
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Given how successful sexually reproducing organisms are, you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 01:32 AM
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I think this is a case of measuring men and women with the same stick. There is a TON of porn geared towards women, but a lot of women don't watch porn and instead read it. The recent 50 Shades of Gray thing doesn't even scratch the surface. there is and has been a market for erotic prose. And women will write and read some sick shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 05:29 PM
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Video porn or porn in general? Because from my observations prose and fanfiction/fanart porn has a huge female fanbase compared to video porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 03:47 PM
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It's possible that you could desire a long term relationship and a string of plates doesn't cut it. You could also want kids or someone to take care of you when the daily grind is too stressful.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 11:26 AM
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My wife goes there, so no?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 11:38 PM
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After lurking there a bit, the ladies from r/redpillwomen.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 04:26 PM
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Disagree with the jumping in each other's needs part. There have been numerous syphilis outbreaks in nursing homes recently. Basically old people are fucking each other and spread STDs like Werther's Originals.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 08:35 AM
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Of course they do. But I don't think it happens more than when they underrate themselves. People have all kinds of anxieties about themselves. What they think they could accomplish, get, or look like. One of the main motivations for anything is that they have some sort of deficiency in body, material or status, particularly compared to someone else. That's why power fantasies are so prevalent. Even half of the behavior of people that look like they overrate themselves is desperate grabs for vali…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 05:46 PM
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I currently make way more money than my wife but she is studying for an occupation to make more money than me because I said that if she does I'll be a househusband, and she basically sucks at everything domestic. I already do all the cooking and ironing and she doesn't really get bathroom scrubbing and stuff like that so she really wants it. (on days I have work, since I leave before she wakes up, she has a pop tart and coffee. On my days off, like today, I make things like pancakes, sausage, e…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 05:21 PM
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I've thought a lot about what I'd do if I were in the position of a househusband. I'd want to do it in a masculine way so while I'd cook and clean I'd also build furniture to make organization and cleaning easier, maybe do a bunch of home improvement like roofing, plumbing and putting insulation in the walls. Make some closet furniture so I can press my wife's work clothes in advance and store them. Learn how to dry clean. make a herb/vegetable garden or some small scale crop. And basically thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 04:58 PM
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Regardless of what it's supposed to be Redpill is not something you go to if you already have your shit together. Its not populated by a bunch of alpha males bonding over collective bro-codes but beta-males trying to recover from what they see as live fucking them over. Nothing like that is ever going to be pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 04:37 PM
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In the threads posting pics of what the average man/woman looks like my first thought was "Nobody knows what the word average means". So I don't exactly trust that OP's assessment of what plain couples are. Also I seriously don't think people overrate themselves more often than they underrate themselves. I'm still trying to find the documentary but men and women were using a computer program to design the ideal woman. The women created anywhere from porn stars to Jessica Rabbit, while the men cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 04:23 PM
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Maybe I haven't been here long enough but what's this about Disney movies? I know I liked a lot of Disney growing up but as a kid I was under the impression that the princess/romance centered ones were treated as unrealistic cootie filled chick flicks by the boys. At the very least I've known more women than men who's romantic expectations are influenced by them, or complaining about others of their gender being influenced by them. I'm not trying to dispute the claim that redpill has some weird …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 02:03 AM
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At that point you just have to advertise up front and hook up with people with the same goals and expectations. There's enough people in the world where exceptions to generalities are not that hard to come by so most people should be okay unless they have contradictory standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 01:39 AM
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Playing Devil's advocate a bit here: Shouldn't we love and appreciate women for this as opposed to assuming that they love like men. It being different doesn't mean that it's worse. A man would sacrifice himself for the betterment of his mate and proginy, but a woman will carry on preserving what a man deemed important enough to sacrifice for.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 12:53 PM
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My wife dreams of me being a house husband but I seem to find employment easier so I'm working full time and she's taken over my olf 14hr a week job.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 12:32 PM
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I don't quite understand what you are saying. could you describe dread game for me?
/r/RedPillWomen27/04/17 10:02 PM
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It's a step isn't it?
/r/RedPillWomen27/04/17 09:42 PM
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More specifically that's what happens when people are not open with their intentions or one brand of intention is seen as a fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 06:20 PM
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I was okay with it until the pretending it might get romantic. Getting jerked around is the bad part.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 12:50 PM
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I was under the impression that dread was a post communication strategy. Effectively you're trying hard to not be the problem without succumbing to arbitrary manipulation or being subservient which would require expressing and listening to sort out shit tests from comfort value desires.
/r/RedPillWomen24/04/17 09:34 PM
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I don't understand why bring Dread to the point of flirting with other women. the first few steps are mostly 'become hot' and 'get your shit together'. after all that wouldn't it be breakup time if there's still a problem? (assuming you're not just randomly being a dick.)
/r/RedPillWomen24/04/17 09:07 PM
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In this thread either the woman or man is far above average. I'm wondering if gender and sexuality needs to be stated so we can see if there​ is a pattern. Pill affiliation is probably relevant too because often when I'm on this sub I feel like Hollywood logic is in effect when it comes to evaluating people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 06:40 PM
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Personally, I don't want to cheat. I want to put my penis in other women but that's​more of an acknowledgement that hot women didn't stop existing after I got married. I'm not resentful in any way. that said me and my wife have had MMF and MFF threesomes and messed around a bit with couples so I'm not exactly the right demographic for this question. If a girl is down for casual sex with a married guy (I'm upfront about being married in those situations) its just my wife's permission away.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 11:40 AM
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That was phrased wrongly. I meant to say 'even if' at the beginning of that sentence to imply that I don't think that's what's going on but if it is interpreted that way I think that what I'm saying doesn't change.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 07:55 PM
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Data points != anecdotal evidence what you're seeing is people providing data points. Those soft sciences you keep asking for studies from to prove TRP follow the same concept. Quan I believe they call it. Please don't phrase it "you keep asking for...". I have not made any posts asking for studies in regards to Redpill subjects.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 07:51 PM
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Isn't that what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 06:46 PM
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At the very least can we rate them in a radar chart and take into account class proximity. There are a lot of factors to physical attractiveness and a 1-10 number is not great for something with a nebulous consensus for the average.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 05:19 PM
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Well sure. Prime example is going to the gym and eating right. You make your body hurt and consume fewer delicious things that your body desperately wants. Instincts tell you that sugar and fat are great and you need as much of it as possible. And when you're full your brain takes like half an hour to register the situation. If you excercise after not being active for a while your body says 'Fuck you! Who said you're allowed to move so much?!' and actively delivers pain and refuses to work prope…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 05:08 PM
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I've seen a bit of talk about alternatives to RP which did get me thinking about one thing that I do admire about the sidebars and resources (as opposed to the sub) is that it's about being proactive. The general advice in regard to dealing with sex and relationships is 'communicate' but the only option when communications break down is to jump ship. Nothing on improving yourself and thriving to not be the problem and there's no concerted effort or community that treats these problems. Earlier i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 04:49 PM
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To be fair the sub more resembles a trauma ward for toxic femininity than being about the core message of taking control of your own happiness, getting your life and body together, a d not being socially manipulated to be successful in sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 03:53 PM
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Kind of my point. If it only works on vapid weak-minded doormats, there's enough supply to meet the demand. One could argue that that is a problem that needs fixing or that misogynistic attitudes towards women generate them and its ultimately bad for women and bad for relationships, but I think that there's a steady supply of them regardless of the nature of thier source or whether or not its a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 03:26 PM
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If they both agreed to those terms and he convinced her to have the child as opposed to 'pushing' her I see nothing wrong with the scenario other than the practically of raising a kid on your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 12:10 AM
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I would guess that all men that aren't into rape want their sex partners to desire them at this point. Masturbation and porn technology has gotten to the point where a partner contains too many complications for simply sexual gratification. The 'doesn't matter had sex' sentiment is more out of desperation, something they would not go for if they had the option. Actually I think thirsty behavior is the primary thing that TRP should be against.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 06:14 PM
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Yes. That unless they develop a fetish for moderately attractive beta women because they associated them with enthusiasm and positive experience early on. Then that becomes the new 10 for them.
/r/RedPillWomen10/04/17 01:38 PM
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== Results from bdsmtest.org == 91% Daddy/Mommy 89% Exhibitionist 84% Non-monogamist 84% Primal (Hunter) 82% Experimentalist 79% Ageplayer 77% Primal (Prey) 76% Voyeur 75% Master/Mistress 73% Switch 70% Brat tamer 69% Dominant 69% Owner 68% Vanilla 66% Submissive 64% Girl/Boy 62% Rope bunny 59% Brat 57% Rigger 52% Pet 47% Slave 27% Degradee 23% Degrader 12% Masochist 6% Sadist Seems about right.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 04:53 PM
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My mom hurt her leg so I had to carry her to the car. She is not a dainty flower and her husband neglected to bring the car out to the front so I was going to die within five more seconds of this. I said nothing and hid being out of breath.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 12:26 AM
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I found out a short while ago that my wife subbed to The Donald, RPW, Tumbler in action, and Kotaku in Action.
/r/RedPillWives07/04/17 07:24 PM
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I didn't want to imply that you just wanted a virgin to control. What I mean is that we don't quite fit into the polyamorous crowd because we're straightlaced and relatively conservative with our approach to sex with people outside of our relationship but aren't really traditionalist either. Typically we're the weird ones in crowds that save themselves for marriage and the weird ones in crowds (that are too numerous) that can't seem to maintain a relationship past a year while also the weird one…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 06:57 PM
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In regards to alphas, excluding what can be perceived as morally negative traits, it is essentially traits that allow a man to control and accomplish. This is not without consequence as it also accounts for their failures to be as spectacular as their accomplishments because 'anything a man wants to do' includes stupid ass shit that he has no business doing for his sake along with others. And beyond that it doesn't supply skills and attitudes meant for maintaining or providing infrastructure acc…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 06:27 PM
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I understand that dynamic but seeing them as mutually exclusive only benefits a lifestyle of spinning plates as opposed to actually exploring the concepts and also ignores discrepencies that interfere with that notion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 04:42 PM
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I'm a little confused but if you're saying that RP wants to make female sex worth as much as male sex to the opposite sex then I would say that would be a fair point but RP seems to be about getting the sex. One of the sentiments that informs Red Pill is that sex is a commodity that women control and dole out to manipulate men. The idea that men are lucky to get access to sex and should be grateful to obtain it as well as the rejection of being put on a proverbial plantation and fed scraps of se…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 01:30 AM
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Now in your actual post I would say that the confusion of what alpha and beta are comes from describing them in mutually exclusive terms. In both descriptions you mention it as 'is an alpha' or 'is a beta' as if that was the whole and leave it at that as if one is desirable above the other and as if they both don't have consequence. When women see the discrepencies based on those terms they stop seeing eye to eye because in the end they're effectively being told what they are attracted to when c…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 01:20 AM
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Yeah. I'm mixing my geeks and nerds.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 01:05 AM
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SF Bay Area. I don't know what Silicon Valley is like so I can't make comparisons.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 01:04 AM
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How are they morons?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 01:01 AM
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I'm not going to say that it's impossible that I just live in an area with an abnormal ratio of kinky sexy nerds and go to conventions where nerds are fucking like rabbits.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 10:32 PM
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If you can wait a bit. I'm on mobile right now so I'll be a bit distracted. I'll be happy to respond properly when I get home.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 09:55 PM
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What makes you say that there aren't? I admit that they aren't always extremely muscular but plenty of fit ones. Usually dudes that get into some kind of physical activity, like my D&D groups has a guy that plays soccer, a metalsmith and a dude that is into medieval sword fighting and also all computer programmers. Sure there are equal numbers of guys that let themselves go post marriage but plenty of fit guys. High school wasn't that different. Computer/anime/videogame nerds that did martial ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 09:20 PM
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What I mean is that they range from ugly to attractive at a normal rate, especially when dolled up for cosplay.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 08:38 PM
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Define attractive because saying most dorks aren't attractive isn't exactly accurate. They don't seem any more or less attractive than the general public and I personally know enough that are attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 08:21 PM
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I have a headcannon based on the opening I've witnessed to it but overall I'm disappointed that r/redpill is barely like the redpill as I understood it before arriving at the sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 07:16 PM
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I have a question; Who do you think intellectuals seek out for sex? Because I know for a fact that a lot of dorks get sex all the time when they're in the company of other dorks. Have you seen an anime convention late at night? Or seen the people that attend midnight screenings of the rocky horror picture show? Seen LARPers play Vampire: the Masquerade next to a graveyard and then fuck? Unfortunately I have. And then there are famous inventors that seem to crop up as guys that like to get their …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 07:12 PM
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I don't think most of the people that talk about it know what an alpha or beta are. In all honesty I don't really know because it devolves into some gobblty gook that has nothing to do with the original description within a few sentences.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 06:47 PM
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I'm mostly talking about IRL when people who are er... Not internet hip(?), Normies, Find out that MGTOW exists. And by 'lose those shit' usually by a sympathetic 'But why? That's so sad' or 'what a bunch of losers' but getting what too invested in the concept to the point of "how dare they". This is mostly black women as my social circle that aren't already aware of MGTOW are family/extended family. Part of the reasons for this is tht Black healthy Males single males are scarce. Don't ask why t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 01:57 PM
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While this is true I've been seeing women lose their shit over the very concept of it men going their own way. Overall it'll probably just end up like Japan where the women just become incels as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 01:24 PM
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I am talking about sex worse than masturbation. Unless you are so thirsty that you blow five minutes into " are we there yet" sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 01:13 PM
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Being aware of it is enough to not fall victim. The point of properly communicated agreements is to avoid the need for manipulation. I just have this feeling that too many people get so caught up with looking out for number one that they forget to be symbiotic as opposed to parasitic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 07:19 AM
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If you've happy to do duty sex because you care about your partners satisfaction then by all means, but self forced duty sex is noticable and awful in quality. I believe that being desired takes precedence over the act of sex in itself in regards to sexual gratification which is why rejection can feel awful. Also, even if I wasn't into having sex I would still get my wife off because her sexual well-being is enough of a priority that I am happy to do duty sex (in those cases it's more vibe and b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 06:48 AM
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Did you even read my post? That's the exact opposite of what I said. I said very clearly that sexual prowess and man pleasing is not something I think is predictable by girl types.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 06:22 AM
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Not really. I came here relatively recently because I'm fairly liberal/feminist but I sympathize with red pill rhetoric through r/redpillwomen, especially after going through The Surrendered Wife, but cannot get over the latter half of the ideas in the redpill and married redpill subs that involve power games that I feel betrays the bigger notions that it introduces. This sub just reinforces my unwillingness to really cop to either pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 05:03 AM
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I think a lot of preference revolve around trust. Obedience and subservience are positively trustworthiness in fidelity and capable of actualizing your desires willingly​. Negatively​ they are features of an automaton without enough agency to induce a romantic attraction. These are desires that are at odds with each other as we want people to be under our control enough to trust them but are attracted to willfulness.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 10:56 PM
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After this thread, I have no clue what submissiveness means because everyone has some different way of describing it. In general, the way I see it, submissiveness and assertiveness are negative and positive traits and a LOT of people (not women or men specifically) could stand to learn how to have the one they lack. Anyone who says they're submissive women is only going to take it so far. Even if you consider your partner a subordinate if they don't have enough agency to the point where you can'…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 09:14 PM
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Not necessarily. I think that kind of thing can't be predicted by 'girl types'. At best if you attribute eagerness to please as a GND trait, then sire, since time and enthusiasm will overcome most sexual deficiency. But its entirely possible that a GND in either of my definitions doesn't know her way around a dick or is selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 08:29 PM
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I feel like most of the subjects involving red/blue/purple pill and mate selection have a very movie logic or upper middle-class suburb setting for how things go down and why. But in the interest of sticking to the subject: When I think of a 'girl next door' type, I think of a girl who is at sharing similar upbringing, values and interests as myself, has a balance of cute to beautiful rather than being a 'perfect 10 hardbody', a bit tomboyish, and who's charms revolve less around excitement or e…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 07:31 PM
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I don't think most of us are going to cop to seriously hating women in any capacity. Despite the concept of AWALT we've all known women who act in ways that we like and women who act in ways that we don't like and hate guys at the same rate for similar and different reasons, so its never women in general. If I want to stretch and say that I hate women in general for a reason I would say that women want to think like and be accepted in the same ways as men but also as women. They want to have the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 04:24 PM
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The wording of the title weirds me out. Women don't owe men their bodies -> Are men justified in going their own way? That line implies that going MGTOW somehow harms women or implies that they are entitled to men. I've been perusing some youtube channels like Sandman, Turd Flinging Monkey and Angry MGTOW and from my perspective I can get why a guy would go MGTOW, but the reasons I get from those channels and their attitudes towards women is misogynistic as fuck. MGTOW as an idea isn't misogynis…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 12:59 AM
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Monogamish? We've been together for a long time. We fuck other people but always with permission, usually when the other is around and not very often at all. I don't think I'm qualified to answer the rest because sometimes it seems like not enough people do either in a way that makes them happy. I would say that monogamy is preferable even though around me its not exactly the norm for the purposes of general stability, and I think that stability would do better if people are real with each other…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 12:33 AM
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I love the reactions we get about our relationship, because we don't really fit in the usual lanes. We lost our virginities to each other and got married and have been together for 13 years without a problem because we believe in commitment and love. But we're also degenerate heathens that sometime fuck other people in each other's presence. We're straightedge and hedonists!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 12:25 AM
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Well mot exactly one and done for me. occasionally we engage in 3-4-somes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 11:43 PM
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There​ are dozens of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 09:57 PM
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29, but we've been together since I was 17.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 09:57 PM
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Male. Purple. I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 08:32 PM
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Oh god is this true for me. I can read the sidebar and find things i agree with, to a point, but the actual content of the sub is disappointing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 06:59 PM
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I'm not in favor of full dread, but I've never seen that conversation go anywhere good. Honestly communicating "I am unhappy with the amount of sex I have" without the word 'you' showing up in the sentence is a gateway but doesn't really go anywhere long term. Long term requires action. Weird thing about dread gaming is that the first steps is basically to stop being the problem before it goes into a full on hostage negotiation. The first bit seems to work out enough on it's own.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 05:06 PM
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Male, 3. My wife and two fuckbuddies approved by my wife. counting anytime my penis is pleasured, that number goes to 5. Appropriate n-count number depends on your relationship goals. If you're actively seeking long term monogamous relationships I think something is wrong when that number is above 10. otherwise above 30 seems like a wide net for collecting sexual baggage.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 03:50 PM
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Looking at the wikipedia article. Its fucking complicated. In fact it's nebulous by sheer definition and as I said 'all over the place' by it's basic premise. It also leads me to conclude tht you're labeling them as misinformed because they don't agree or just don't talk to or see enough videos of antifeminists/egalitarians, or whatever label I'm throwing them into, to even know why they disagree because many of them are aware of third wave feminism by those terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 08:55 PM
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In the case of Democrats; Then why would it be assumed they're misinformed if there is something new happening within feminism that they'd abandon the label for different grounds that keep their ideals that they believe feminism used to have? You seem to be doing the same with egalitarianism. What are they misinformed about? What do they not understand about third wave feminism? Do you understand third wave feminism? Often when people say that the people that oppose something are misinformed or …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 07:50 PM
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There's a bit of a problem with that example. If you vote democrat and they consistently make legislative positions and stances that you don't find to conform to what it means to be a democrat, wouldn't you drop the party? As a party Democrat and Republican are drastically different from what they were almost a century ago to the point where they're on opposite sides of the liberal/conservative spectrum than from where they started. It would mean that you're voting anti-democrat as you noted by …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 06:44 PM
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I quoted exactly where you are describing what I 'want to say'. What I am saying is that in this conversation you have increasingly started using language that makes affirmative statements about groups that from my experiences aren't true so I can't exactly take your word on it that you've listened to the subject with an open mind. One thing I find strange is that you're claiming to know about the whole of egalitarianism and anti-feminists but from my experiences what you're saying about them is…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 05:48 PM
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You want to say that the lunatics speak for the movement and they don't. Because I've been reading up and discussing these issues for many years. There are a set of talking points to egalitarians and anti-feminists that are defined because they are reactionary to feminism. How can I trust that you've actually listened to these people with any actual sincerity or empathy when you're telling me what I want to say when in my previous reply said that I was not arguing the merits of feminism? In fact…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 12:29 AM
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I'm not taking the worst examples. And that's not the end of the examples that I have at my disposal. But I do take it that you are saying that you know all about egalitarianism and its ideology however from talking to you it seems like you don't. But whether or not feminism has merit as a label or a movement isn't my argument nor would it be. My argument is that I understand where anti-feminists who are for gender equality are coming from because a number of them are met with violence and the a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 10:30 PM
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I wish I could upvote this more. Humans are diverse enough that entire groups need at least a little less generalizing than they sometimes get. Its like whenever I'm with a group and there's a dispute about where to eat. I drop out of the conversation because so many people will just reject an entire culture when in any of them I'll find something I like. There's never a category of food where I just don't like anything that that culture has done with food.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 09:55 PM
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So let me get this straight. Lets say feminist is met with threats, assault, theft and having pets murdered, all by feminists and so define themselves as egalitarian instead of feminist, but they are misinformed because feminism isn't a monolith. Basically, Not All Feminists Are Like That. This means to disregard that feminists of social, political and organizational power include unapolegetic rapists, abusers, murderers, and supporters of regimes that oppress women, talk about taking pride in m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 09:37 PM
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Most Anti-feminists that aren't MGTOW/Redpill seem to be anti-wingnut or anti-identity politics rather than anti-feminists when defining it simply as wanted equal rights and opportunities across gender. Often citing that they're egalitarian because they feel that feminism stopped representing equality. The same can be said about interacting with feminists and seeing how they justify the methods they'll stoop to when they have organizational power instead of anonymous internet folk.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 08:31 PM
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I can see that. And similar things happen in black urban culture too. For example; You know that stereotype of black men not smiling for pictures? I was actively coached into that. My brother too, who to this day looks like he's pissed off in photos. My elders said it looks goofy and that I should want to look confident and 'hard' for pictures.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 08:07 PM
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i imagine that there are significant regional differences. At least from my experiences, while American blacks have a lot of cultural ties and common threads the west coast and southern east coast are very different. One interesting bit was that around 2003-2004 it seemed like crunk and hyphy were basically different words for the same thing only west and east coast respectively. They are not the same thing but they are related. Also interesting, I visited the east coast and there they seemed to…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 07:49 PM
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I'm sorry, was any of that unclear? If so, tell me which parts so that I can clarify.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 07:29 PM
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Don't you think that's, well, drawing them into one group and treating them as if they are represented by a few vocal wingnuts? I'm not saying that it's not understandable, your experience with them would color anyone that would be under the same banner even if it's an unwilling banner, but you seem to be arguing that feminism shouldn't be judged like that, and that looks like an affirmative statement that they tend to be misinformed and/or bigoted. Would it be fair for me to judge feminism, whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 07:26 PM
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I'm not saying that you should, I'm saying that people who ditch the label because they see bigotry being fought by bigots with leadership positions in their label and I think that its understandable. They're trying to distance themselves from the people that co-opted their cause to fight against it. They haven't changed their beliefs. Some have opted not to ditch the label wanting to fight for it instead which is understandable as well. What I am saying that there's a reason why 'anti-feminists…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 05:51 PM
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That is increadibly reassuring to see. I understand that feminism isn't a monolith but the point of my previous point was that its very understandable that people will be opposed to or drop the label when feminists with social, political or organizational power seem to fall into the category of Vocal Wingnut.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 04:33 PM
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Vocal Wingnuts often start looking like the face of feminism because they seem to be the leaders of the movement. Sarsour for instance was one of the primary organizers for the Women's March and the Women's Strike. It feels kind of scary when a woman who organizes the biggest feminist event ever is promoting Sharia law. Also scary, one of the key speakers during the women's march spent some time in prison after capturing, torturing, anally raping, and killing a man without any kind of remorse, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/17 05:13 PM
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Its part of the question of whether or not men should see feminism in it's current incarnation as a good thing because of the previous thread about how feminism has hurt men and how many examples I could bring up. Wanted to see if I could balance the scales because I could not immediately think of examples of otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/17 04:51 PM
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I see this assertion a lot, but my favorite female comedians aren't people I'm attracted to and successful comedians in general tend to be very self depreciating. I'm having a hard time thinking about attraction being very relevant in that realm.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/17 01:19 PM
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This makes me think that you haven't taken the time to even know what these factions are saying and assuming they are saying the same thing as Redpill without checking. It's like how people equate feminism in general to misandric arnarchist that men should be put into camps.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 09:20 PM
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That's fine. I just wanted to ask another question for clarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 08:54 PM
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That's interesting. do you think it has more to do with opportunity and being out of the house?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 08:34 PM
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So you don't think that this is as common as implied?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 08:31 PM
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But Redpill doesn't even like MRAs and vice versa. I think Paul Elam recently called them a pack of misogynistic pussy hounds that took a wrong turn. Im still talking about MRAs. theres a lot of anti-feminism but not without reasons. I'm on mobile right now so I'll have​ to copy and post examples later but I feel like Menslib, which I sub to, is primarily MRAs that haven't been browbeaten and silenced by people claiming to be feminist because they've seen even the subject of equal punishment for…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 08:30 PM
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Two questions. How often do feminists discuss and encourage positive masculinity as a subject? One issue that men face is that female predators such as rapists and child molesters are either fairly invisible by society or receive less punishment with some studies and statistics suggesting that they are just as numerous as male sexual predators but due to various factors are reported and punished less. Studies also show that abuse is very cyclical and that suffering abuse like this breeds men who…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 07:55 PM
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Do you think that those feminists scare away potential allies? Do you think that they aren't called out enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 07:45 PM
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What would you say to articles about implied epidemics of women rejecting men like that such as this, and this? Just to be clear I'm not posing those as counterarguments, I just want you perspective on the notion that would be bound to come up that on average women eventually reject these men. Since this is a Redpill related sub hypergamy would have to be argued against in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 07:29 PM
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Something interesting in there, "abolishing gender roles". Does that imply that gender roles are inherently negative? I wish I still had the textbook so I could reference but I was reading up on a study that suggested that children with homosexual parents/adoptive parents were more successful when domestic roles were clear and suggested that childhood development cared about gender roles such as homemaker and breadwinner but not the sex or even the gender in those roles. It was not conclusive bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 07:19 PM
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Does it lead to less suicides? Has there been any functional progress on that front because it looks like suicide rates are higher than normal right now, unless you have some evidence to the contrary. Do feminists point out positive masculinity. Because I know what is meant by the gesture of pointing out toxic masculinity but more often than not when I see it discussed it devolves into feminine traits being positive and masculine traits being negative with the emphasis that men should not confor…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 07:13 PM
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That's fine. I didn't need you to go into specifics. As I said I'm not trying to be adversarial I just want some assurance that these people exist, whether it be personal experience or noticing any news or articles of feminists that do care about men's issues and do something about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 07:06 PM
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Can you give me some examples? something I can reference would be nice but personal anecdotal ones would be sufficient. As a side note, this does make me think about whether or not Positive Masculinity has been codified in feminist theory or if femininity is assumed positive and masculinity is assumed negative. I'll have to look up some stuff unless someone has a direction to point me at.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 06:07 PM
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Do you think that these factions of fake feminists do a lot of damage to the cause as a branch of egalitarianism as a whole or do you think they are so few in number that they are better ignored?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 06:04 PM
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But MRAs do create safe spaces for women. At least in my area they do. They are very low-key but they do. I don't know about the internet at large or elsewhere but nearby there are a few. In regards to MRAs being opposed to non-traditionally masculine, I've had the opposite experience. I mean, that's one reason why Redpill doesn't really like MRAs. MRAs very frequently talk against masculinity being used to bring men down or manipulate them into abhorrent behavior. Shame over masculinity is a hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 06:00 PM
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So feminists do not cross over into egalitarian territory in terms of action? At this junction I am discussing individual or groups of feminists as opposed to the movement itself where -fem is in the name so isn't about men except by proxy. One other issue: wouldn't solving some of the men's problems also solve some of the women's problems. The reverse is said all the time but, for example; there aren't any organized pushes I know of in the US for incentivizing paternal duties, or other behavior…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 05:54 PM
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There's a lot of fake feminists then. But seriously. In person when I'm on their side of the aisle, I see it a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 05:51 PM
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That's part of what I'm questioning. Intersectionality makes things kind of wonky too. Also the feminist subreddit sidebar does define feminism as an extension of Egalitarianism because it is about equality and would ideally die as a movement if that was ever achieved because its not about female supremacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 05:45 PM
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I do remember a few Huffington Post articles that talk about this being an issue. Namely that Househusbands and feminist men being divorced at a rate they thought was too high and encouraging women to not do that. I'm not sure what to think about those articles.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 05:42 PM
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I can understand that. But somehow a 'wave' of feminism introduced intersectionality in the mix which includes race and orientation into the mix. Would that not include men and their issues? As far as individual feminists who care about men's rights, do you have any examples of any that have done anything about it? Anecdotal examples are fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 05:37 PM
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I think that's because they don't like the idea that masculinity is inherently bad. I've seen 'Men's groups' (IRL meetings) that discuss men's issues and emotionally support each other but only regard masculinity as bad when it is used as a weapon. Like to shame other men into action, or to get them to shut up because they're 'whining'. It doesn't help that any positive trait that can be called masculine can be conflated to be a negative trait as well, and even feminists will resort to insults t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 05:35 PM
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Generally that's true but feminism comes in many flavors. I don't know what percentage is the type but I suspect that the average woman that identifies as a feminist wouldn't attack other women for wanting to stop female child molesters. In college we had a guest representing a men's group, a sort of group help thing to address men issues, particularly because men are basically trained to 'suck it up'. they just explained what they were and what kinds of things they talk about. the class was maj…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 01:59 AM
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To me that's just lip service that amounts to 'Not All Redpill Are Like That' when someone points out that they have right ideas like self improvement but goes off the deep end to include control games. But really Redpill kind of functions with good advice justifying the parts that people don't like that stem from the overarching sentiment gained from negative experiences from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 09:19 PM
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I think its because attempts to replicate Redpill don't really ride why Redpill has some success. Namely that Redpill is a result of a long history stretching back to Geocities days (On the internet that's the equivalent of riding horses and sacking castles.) and that redpill has a core belief of how the world works in regards to sexual strategy that works even if it's eventual outcome is a pale reflection of it's root message. Personally if I'd try to replicate it, I'd start early with articles…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 08:02 PM
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Maybe we should start a subreddit that actually has a mission statement as opposed to just hating on another group like Bluepill without the rampant misogyny of Redpill. Because really as a whole I think that Redpill has something that gets lost in other similar subreddits, and kind of stumbled on some truth but is too shy to admit the vulnerability.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 07:05 PM
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I'm in PPD because I read and agree with Redpill's core premise... to a point, and I agree with 'social justice'... to a point. I don't actually sub to r/theredpill or r/thebluepill. Both are subjects that I think have long since gone off the rails and believe in their own hyperbole rather than sticking with their respective prime directives. I suspect that's where most of the subscribers of either sub actually are but I have no evidence to back that up other than general optimism.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 06:34 PM
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What nonsense, this is why I'm in favor of adding more DP-like protection to these boards. I don't fully understand this sentence. What is DP-like protection? Most of this thread the RPillers are making what I feel are superficial assertations that amount to media culture wars that have speculative results. Which is a shame because there are some actual issues for men that feminists fight. Elsewhere in this thread I mention Erin Pizzey and that she was terrorized for basically bringing to light …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 06:07 PM
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To be clear, I'm explaining what I think Darklord was trying to say, not that it has any relevance to the thread. But I also want to clarify that the argument isn't that feminists point out that certain games are very blatantly sexist, its that they're pointing out nonsexist things and throwing them in with the very blatant sexist things which they fear will affect censorship down the road which could prevent Joe Gamer from purchasing those games. If there has been any legislative threats I don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 05:32 PM
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As a lawyer who is very liberal when it comes to DP and defendant's rights, I did too until I read up on it. It's not actually about judges/juries -- it's about law enforcement. The idea is that alleged rape victims don't get immediately interrogated as if their story is automatically suspect. Like we don't do this with alleged robbery or assault victims either. That being said, I see how it could be easily confused with DP, it's very poorly worded, it confuses the message. I think both sides ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 05:22 PM
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From my point of view Darklord is not explaining things well or doesn't have a real point so I wanted to fill in what I think s/he is trying to say. Basically the issue around Gamergate/Kotakuinaction was about how misogynistic gamers are before it was about anything else. Before the Zoe Quinn sleeping with people thing that kicked it off into a shitstorm there are accusations about gamers and misogyny going on for a while. Since then there's been a bunch of instances of cronyism and collaborati…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 05:08 PM
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I'd like to know too because as far as I know, although I think the 'listen and believe' thing is repugnant, legally nobody has decided to do away with due process. I will put up that there have been some damage from false reporting in regards to colleges since they have their own disciplinary avenues. I don't know if it is at all frequent but there were a few instances where a male is accused of rape, kicked out of school but was never convicted. At least one of which the student sued. The one …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 04:40 PM
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Mostly pushing legislature that hurts men or protesting things that help men, for example; protesting a men's day event focusing on suicide prevention. It gets shut down and a guy commits suicide on the location. There are also minor acts of terrorism for dissent. Example; the whole Erin Pizzey story. Woman opens the first domestic abuse shelter in the UK, finds out that a good chunk of the victims were violent abusers themselves. For suggesting that domestic violence can be cyclical she basical…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 01:34 PM
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Sorry, I neglected to read the whole post. I'd like to know by virtue of it might have been an issue I care about but Id only be mildly shook up about it if it was sprung on me after marriage because its not something I particularly care about and I can understand wjy someone would hide it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 08:38 PM
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Sure, mostly because I am indifferent on having my own kids and I'm more attracted to feminity than the the actual sex. But whether or not frequent penetration is on the table is a deal breaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 08:12 PM
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Probably because I'm typing but my tone wasn't very antagonistic towards modern feminists, I'm explaining why there's pushback against feminists from egalitarians despite feminism theoretically an extension of egalitarianism. On the subject of Pink quotas, I have mixed feelings the same way with race-based affirmative action. So I don't have anything to say on that specific suject because I'm very middle ground leaning towards quotas like that being more effective when self imposed as opposed to…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 04:18 PM
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At this point you're talking past me a bit. My words weren't as dismissive as simply 'learn to deal with it', in fact I did directly say "...we want to stop it.". The phrase 'learn to deal with it was only a part of a complete sentence and is there because I'm not immune to the possibility that some kind of thought imbalance will exist between sexes due to differences between them and at some point we'd find out a comfortable place while acknowledging those differences. In fact the primary inten…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 03:50 PM
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I like to keep an open mind when so-called 'egalitarians' and 'anti-feminists' claim there is no discrimination in the workplace, no glass ceilings, that the wage gap is all down to women choosing to stay home with the kids and work less. Yet how do you reconcile that line of thinking with obvious ingrained prejudices such as this? I reconcile that line of thinking by not having it. Or rather, as an egalitarian I don't think think that problems simply don't exist. Sure biases exist against women…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 02:33 PM
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"Conventionally" hot girls tend to blend together in my brain. Some kind of weirdness or flaw stands out for me and sometimes just becomes cute. Plus my thoughts on what's hot and what's not isn't always binary, like having a narrow and long face will put me off except when it comes other wide eyes and that kind of smile that has more cheek than you're used to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 03:37 AM
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I think this is the winning reply. To add to it, don't think too much about the type of porn. Weird porn is weird because it's fake. That's why we there's no porn where somebody farts and becomes embarrassed about it. (yes there is but there's a humiliation angle there.) Plus if the state of mind is 'tentacle rape porn' a blowjob is somewhat of a downgrade as opposed to straight up sex or authoritarian roleplay.
/r/RedPillWomen09/03/17 08:50 PM
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Don't they have completely unrelated goals? Feminists, whether we're talking about extremes like 'all men are rapists' or just want more non big titty bikini ninja women in their videogames, essentially want women to have as much opportunity or treated as having the same potential as men. This is a moral argument. When it comes to Redpill I don't think they give a flying fuck about all that. Yeah, TRP has a LOT to say about feminism and how it's the result of feminism but in terms of goals and m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 06:04 PM
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I think this has less to do with the sentiment that women are faking hotness and more to do with the uncanny valley. if features because too exaggerated men start to feel "off" because it seems less human and more cartoon. Funnily enough full on cartoons become appealing enough to jack off to once they're past the valley because fantasies are appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 09:49 PM
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I haven't been around for long but from what I gather TRP and RPW have the same base principles but completely different goals. TRP is trying to get laid and RPW is trying to obtain and maintain relationships. Obviously one requires more trust and love than the other so you wi d up with totally different approaches.
/r/RedPillWomen01/03/17 04:29 PM
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Boy. Whenever I watch a movie or TV show where something bad happens between a daughter/father, usually when one is killed which upsets the other, no matter how much I try to hold it in, I have a river of tears pouring out. Oddly enough the same does not happen for sons/fathers or any other familial relationships. I don't have kids and I'm male so I have no idea why I'm so sensitive towards daughters. I would probably be a bit more afraid of anything bad happening if I had a daughter. I'd prefer…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 06:12 PM
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What kind of people is everyone marrying? Maybe its because my marriage is somewhat unconventional but I was under the impression that a full on stay at home spouse (before kids) was to manage expenses, savings, investments, and charity as well as home maintenance, cleaning, food & nutrition planning, scheduling, networking, and apparel. Now number of those you can maintain by establishing a system that reduces the time spent on those activities by a lot but all of those jobs greatly stretches a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 01:11 AM
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My understanding of Red Pill as a whole was this; r/theredpill is a bunch of pick up artists that theorize that women are adult children ruled by their biology and crave being controlled because it feels safe. Earlier this year I was searching for parts of reddit that I could clique with because over the past few years I jumped off the feminist wagon but not in full agreement with the counter rhetoric. This eventually led me to r/purplepilldebates which is how I found out that RPW and RPWi exist…
/r/RedPillWives17/02/17 05:45 PM
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A work dress, a slutty dress, a bracelet, a belt, and dinner.
/r/RedPillWomen15/02/17 03:55 PM
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Define"need", because that's a strong word. Nobody NEEDS sex, like to live but if faced with never having sex again or murdering someone a loooot of people say " Just anybody or someone specific?".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 12:27 AM
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I don't think sass and submissiveness are mutually exclusive, in the sense that if a meek girl with no confidence is submissive she seems to lack autonomy and just goes with whatever whereas if a sassy girl with a lot of confidence is submissive then she is actually placing trust in the guy.
/r/RedPillWomen01/02/17 06:01 PM
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The only answer I have is experience. Experience to know that one has more value than the other. But my comment was kind of half-thought out in the first place so I won't argue that its a viable argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 08:21 PM
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One could make the argument that this is natural. A guy's natural state is to go out and do lethal things to bring back resources. The guy in the first pick is someone young that can be pair bonded with but you wouldn't believe that he's survived enough lethal things to be successful. The second pick is a guy who's seen some shit and probably survived enough to be highly successful. So tastes would start to change with age as one's preference goes from comfort to survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 07:47 PM
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