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Anecdotal I know OP but i guy I knew at uni is physically like you and he cleared up. He was very confident, very social and like being top dog. So I guess although the height may have hindered him if he had a different personality his masculine attitude made up for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 11:19 AM
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I was considering killing myself when I reached 22 and was still a virgin so when I met a nice girl it did make me feel wanted and helped my self-esteem after feeling unattractive for so long. That relationship ended 6 years ago and its been 4 years without sex so I can feel the mental problems getting worse again (although admittedly I don’t have many friends, lockdown isn’t helping and I don’t feel fulfilled in my career which all can contribute).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 04:10 PM
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When I worked at a pub, several gay guys and two of the women who worked there offered to fuck / blow me. I didn’t find them attractive (and I’m straight) so wasn’t interested. Never been approached sexually by a woman I find attractive. Which was depressing because I was at uni for 5 years and it was 60% women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 10:19 PM
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I’ve had a good conversation with a feminist friend about FGM and male circumcision and managed to convince her that male circumcision was the equivalent of cutting off a woman’s clitoral hood. So reasonable feminists are out there.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/05/20 07:29 PM
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I’m a shy man so don’t approach hence why I’m alone but even at uni I would have said I was in the minority (although not an insignificant one). The majority of men still approach because the alternative is effectively dying alone or perhaps some women who’s fucked hundreds of guys settling for you when they get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 11:01 AM
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It’s what Christmas wishes it was. Pure unadulterated hatred.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:23 AM
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God I love purge week.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 10:00 PM
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About your third point - last time I looked at this I found it was the other way around. Ie. Increased testosterone suppresses the immune system and women have an amped up immune system (hence why they have a higher rate of autoimmune diseases).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/03/20 02:01 PM
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Male, 30, UK. Shy, quiet, not good at flirting. In pretty good shape, average face (I think). 5’8”. Had one relationship that ended 7 years ago, Not had sex for over three years. University sucked for me - I went with the naive hope that lots of women would mean lots of opportunities and that they liked different types of men (including shy ones). I think it truly made me realise the reality of the SMP, how easy women have it and how the top men dominate it all. My experiences (or lack of) have …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 08:39 PM
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I dunno about anyone else but I don’t want women forced into relationships with unattractive men. I just want women to admit that they have it far easier in regards to sex / dating and stopping harping about male privilege. Then I want the government to legalise the suicide booth from futurama so I can end it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 02:40 PM
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I think that men have become more comfortable with stepping outside traditional masculinity but that has negative knock-on effects. One being the fact that women still predominantly want to date and fuck “alpha”/ masculine / top of the hierarchy men. Men who don’t fit this are left out and dating is harder for them. These men are also more likely to speak about it but one of the other negatives is that society doesn’t like men displaying weakness. Complaining about dating troubles is weakness. F…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 10:01 AM
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It’s good that they’re admitting it’s harder for men to have sex / relationships.
/r/MensRights06/05/19 04:42 PM
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As a shy man your second and third paragraph really resonates with me. Thanks for the insight.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 11:05 PM
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It’s hard enough to be an undesirable man without reaffirming it by having to buy sex. Publicly endorsing prostitution is telling the world this. Furthermore, who really wants to fuck someone who doesn’t want them?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 08:15 AM
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Just wanted to say thanks for this topic as I’m 29 and have suicidal depression from the whole being unattractive to women at uni, etc. Looking forward to reading the replies and see if anything helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 12:28 PM
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I very much doubt women will change As they have an aversion to male weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/18 08:52 PM
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Just because men have had girlfriends and had sex doesn't mean its satisfactory, easy or it comes along often or that that dating is equally easy between men and women. Or that men are satisfied with it. I'd consider myself an average guy (albeit shy and quiet) and although I've had sex with a few women and a long term relationship it wasn't easy and it's not like opportunities have been given to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 06:28 PM
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Couldn't this argument be turned on Bpers? - "BPers are part of the top percent and believe that life is as easy for everyone else as it is for them?"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 05:05 PM
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You can't claim that women have problems with their sexuality (things like slut shaming, the madonna / whore complex, the slut / stud double standard) whilst at the same time ignoring the problems men face (disparity in the ability between men and women to get sex, creep shaming, the fact that men have to stick to a masculine ideal). If one is an example of "oppression" than so is the other. I don't think men are oppressed by these issues though, I just want them to be recognised and for women t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 01:26 PM
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"If women seriously desired this, they would all be fishing around for the 1-in-100 guy, and they wouldn't even know that he fitted the bill until they were having sex. They'd have to sleep with 100 guys to find the one big dick guy on average." Unfortunately this is one of those "I read something on the internet once" but.... I read on the internet, year ago, that men with large dicks have more sexual partners than average and small men, it even said double, so that would mean women are exposed…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 02:29 AM
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I've grown to hate women due to the fact that they want a traditionalist guy at the same time as spouting bullshit about equality. When I was younger I believed the "oh be yourself" unfortunately if yourself is a shy dude you get shafted. So my view has become more and more red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 01:40 PM
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That's a solid rebuttal to me. However my argument still stands in regards to things like the "orgasm gap", men interrupting women and any social issue women complain about.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 12:23 PM
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Flattered but suspicious it was a joke or there was a catch.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 10:50 AM
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As I've said before - as long as you level this argument against women who complain that life is stacked against them in regards to careers, etc then I have no problem, otherwise you're not being logically consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 10:45 AM
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If a girl likes big dicks it's a bit pointless (depending on the size she likes anyway - my length is average, my girth is big so ideally I'd find a girl who like thickness but isn't bothered about length). Interestingly, i've heard a lot of women say it matters less for relationships but this is the opposite of my point of view - If a girl likes big dicks but you don't have one, you are sexually incompatible for a long term relationship and she is more likely to cheat from not being sexually sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 02:08 PM
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I've always thought about it this way. You have two millionaires; one got it all given to them through family inheritance, the other started off homeless and grafted for years to get to that stage. Yes, both shouldn't be "shamed" but the root cause of the disparity in the attitude between men and women is of respect for someone who has it harder. The inability of women and feminists to even acknowledge this means the issue is unlikely to be solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 02:45 PM
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I'd say you need equality otherwise one partner feels inadequate. I've turned down relationships with girls with higher partner counts than me because if a girl is 8 years younger than me with 3 x the number of partners it proves that I am unattractive and have missed out on experiences but she hasn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 02:32 PM
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True but men who have spent their whole life missing out on those kind of experiences end up all kinds of fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 02:22 PM
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I'm shy, have low confidence and can't approach women in the first place. Women also don't give me IOI even though I've physically improved myself physically the best I can (in really good shape, dress well).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 02:18 PM
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Little bitter is an understatement hah. Honestly, I wish I had the courage to kill myself but I don't even have the guts to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 02:14 PM
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The only thing I've ever struggled with was the last point - My shyness when it comes to socialising, especially in large groups and when it comes to speaking to women has been enough to really fuck up my life and cause horrendous depression. And before someone suggests it, i've tried all kinds of therapy (CBT, normal counselling) and i'm likely to be on antidepressants the rest of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 02:09 PM
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I'm from the UK but I believe that if men in the US don't sign up for selective service they lose the right to things like government loans for university and other penalties. Could anyone from the US confirm this?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 01:02 PM
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How can you (or your dad) be a feminist whilst still peddling the phrase "real man"? Does cheating on your wife throughout your marriage demonstrate respect / feminist values in regards to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 10:14 PM
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You say it like "see women as people" means something. I have female friends (and you may find this surprising - but I do see them as people). I never chose to get anxious about speaking to women I find cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 02:28 AM
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I think size matters to women in that most women prefer larger than average but at some point there will be too much. Also I think women vary in size too so it's a matter of compatibility. ... I do remember reading a study that said men with larger dicks have double the sexual partners, but that was a long time ago and I wasn't as critical back than so I don't know how accurate and generalisable it really is. It's definitely not healthy for men to worry about it though, speaking as an average gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 10:42 AM
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Women have more power when it comes to sex and relationships. Men are therefore reacting to women's wants and needs (so men acting hyper-masculine is a reflection of women's desire for that kind of man).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 04:06 PM
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I reckon men who are sensitive or have mental issues like myself take rejections to heart more and probably read far much into it / project their own interpretation, e.g. "Oh god she thought I was a creepy rapist / she was really horrible to me", when in reality the women is just thinking "not my type".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 08:16 PM
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Well for me: I don't believe women are inferior or children for example. However real life has taught me that in order for men to have sexual / relationship success then they must conform to traditional masculinity (strong, stoic, no weakness, be socially dominant) as much as possible. Red pill encourages this and is therefore the best chance men have. "Just be yourself" and other stupid sentiments results in men like me, the shy, quiet and passive ones having a shit life and actually increases …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 07:58 PM
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Nice post and seem true from what I've experienced. I'd add that I think women respond to men who are assertive in their sexuality and the majority of friendzoning happens when a man is passive with his sexuality (takes on a female sexual role and hopes to be hit on, women probably think that the men themselves want to be friends).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 06:59 AM
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I've been to loads of different therapists over the years, had countless anti-depressants. Nothing can change, at a fundamental level, being unattractive to women and missing out on life because of it. Depression, low self-esteem, suicidal ideation, etc. are natural responses to this and will never be solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 12:30 AM
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Male. Purple Usual weightlifting. Actual - 140kg BP / 185 DL / 185 Squat / +75kg Chins / +75kg dips. @77kg. According to that website: * ~12% Women look more at the beach, gay men hit on me a lot. I'm shy and scared to approach women so rarely have sex or relationships (although I could be really ugly too which would explain the lack of interest). I think the advantages of weightlifting are overblown and only really help in people who already have "alpha" traits, the guys who are cocky, hit on l…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 12:20 AM
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If they're a female friend they can support you, a gf will be able to handle it occasionally and if you're hoping for a one night stand you can't show any weakness at all in any form.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 09:38 AM
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Do women not enjoy sex in your world? Is sex not a mutually pleasurable and women need payment to suffer through it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 08:09 AM
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I'm in excellent shape (get told I can do the male physique competitions) Most of the time because I associate it with not knowing what to say and being ignored. I have had the odd occasion where I feed on it and like being centre of attention but that's not common. I might be able to speak to them, but it will be boring (nothing comes to my head). There will likely be nothing flirty. As I told a therapist, it's almost like I'm ashamed of my interest in a girl so don't say anything that is flirt…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 09:17 AM
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I was under the impression that there have been studies showing 50% success for women employing this (though some suggest higher I think) and 0-1% for men. So if it was 50:1 wouldn't that be 50 x higher or is my maths completely shit this morning?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 09:46 AM
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Damn I need more sleep.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 09:43 AM
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A 50% success rate for women is still 50 x higher than a mans....
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 08:09 AM
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I'm only really confident in the gym, that's my domain. ;) I can speak to men, women I'm not interested in, attractive women I'm not interested in. I struggle to speak at all in large groups. I can not, for the life of me, go up to a girl I find attractive or flirt with one if the opportunity presents itself (I'm a bar man so if a cute girls orders a drink I wouldn't be able to flirt with her).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 02:47 AM
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Looked good. I can watch porn for that though which is free. Can't approach women, too anxious / shy / depressed / no confidence. Meds / counseling doesn't work so I'm pretty fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/16 12:36 AM
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I've had a strip dance once in my life, and I can safely say - never again, precisely because it's so fake and devoid of desire. ... I can't speak for other men but I have so few options when it comes to women (they don't tend to know I exist / am interested / flirt with me) I don't really want to waste even more time on the 99% of women who aren't interested in me. Maybe when you're a woman and you spend your life getting hit on by the opposite sex you develop a different attitude?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 03:50 PM
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I'd probably concede that one the base level, women do more work everyday to look good. However, men are the ones that have to approach women, which is much harder than standing around, waiting to get hit on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 09:31 AM
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Women's tastes are far more honed in on traditionally attractive guys (tall, muscular, model face, big dong) where as men display more variance in their tastes (hence why there are guys into fat women but not the other way round).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 04:35 PM
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Men struggle due to the difference in value between men and women's sexuality, creating a difference in power. If men and women were equal in sexual power, slut shaming would just shift to the most attractive people rather than being aimed at women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 02:01 PM
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If women wanted sex as much as men then gender parity would exist when it comes to complaints about being used for sex ... Tinder is easier for women. more opportunities, more matches, more chances of dating, can just ask for sex if you want it and have a relatively high success rate in comparison to men. Part of the disconnect between the blue pill and red pill proponents appears to be the inability for BPers to listen to normal mens experience and problems with dating / sex. Also, as a guy wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 01:56 PM
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Why doesn't shaming of male sexuality control male sexual behaviour, e.g. "creepy", "desperate", "if you hit on women whilst she's in the middle of something you're a rapist" ?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 01:48 PM
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You don't know this anymore than I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 01:46 PM
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This is scarily accurate for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 09:17 AM
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With my ex i'd be able to tell by the look in her eyes. With random women I wouldn't have a clue, I have to be told I'm being hit on (and I still don't believe it). ...... Common sense should dispute this though, if women want sex as much as men; then you'd expect prostitution use to have equal rates between genders, you'd expect as many women to complain about not being able to get laid on a night out, hell you'd even expect women to not complain about being "used" for sex, men would find tinde…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 09:10 AM
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So you're saying that feminists don't believe: That women are the oppressed group and men the oppressor group? That men exhibit violence against women as a way of reinforcing "patriarchy" / keeping women oppressed?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 07:52 PM
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Although I don't think the analogy is truly accurate (getting sex isn't truly comparable to making a living - if I ignore the issues with the disingenuous wage gap argument) I can appreciate the sentiment and the message. When men on here say it's harder for us to have sex (insert complaint here), BPers say, "life isn't fair, suck it up". When BPers say that women don't earn as much / get slut shamed, etc then RPers should be able to say the same thing....
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 10:54 AM
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Feminism puts men as collective, faceless oppressors / rapists / abusers. So I'd say it's similarities to red pill are pretty evident.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 10:49 AM
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I thought you used to claim it didn't matter for certain women, have you changed your mind or am I thinking of another user on here?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 05:07 PM
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Outgoing will have more chances unless Guy B gets recommended to friends. Gotta admit I love the disingenuous comparisons people do when they say size doesn't matter - "if a guy is average and has skills hes better than a large guy who doesn't put in any effort". A true comparison is if guys use the same techniques, same sexual skill, etc but one has a 4 inch, one a 6 inch and one a 8 inch, what will feel better for the woman? It also makes no sense to claim bigger doesn't feel better (to an ext…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 11:58 AM
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I know I've had women try, as a barman it's pretty common for women to attempt to flutter their eyelashes in an attempt to get free drinks / extra shots / whatever. Thankfully I can see through the insincere stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/16 08:54 AM
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Ignorance is bliss I'd say.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 05:47 PM
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My brother is a chad player type and is misogynistic. I'm a passive shy man and I'm more misogynistic than him. So that's my anecdotal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 05:45 PM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 08:58 AM
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Are these the same femdom women that cuckold the submissive men by fucking alpha, well endowed dudes?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 02:52 PM
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Your first point isn't to do with masculinity and femininity as it is to do with the ease of getting sex. Any man that comes outside a traditional male ideal (tall, strong, handsome, confident, charismatic, domineering, etc) will struggle far more than women who do the same in terms of dating and sex. Just because life becomes easier for men doesn't mean it's as easy as it is for women. It just means it's improved for men. For point 5 - Ignoring the bigger picture on this one, male sexuality ten…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/16 08:45 AM
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Many of my female friends seem to experience the oppression that feminists describe so is it safe to say it doesn't exist? Just because men don't talk about their problems (them gender roles ...) doesn't mean they don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 09:06 AM
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Most men, including me believe in some semblance of equality. What you'll find though is the underlying paradigms governing the ideological basis of feminism is repugnant to most of us. We have the whole idea of men as the oppressor class and women as oppressed. Now, even though the lay person won't have read into the theory, they will be aware of the actions of feminists and how their belief system negatively effects them. For example, the feminist belief that sexism doesn't exist against men m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 08:44 AM
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Women also tend to demonstrate more in-group bias than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/16 12:28 PM
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It's a really disingenuous argument, I'm largely pro-equality but because I disagree with feminist concepts - "patriarchy overwhelmingly benefits men", "sexism against men doesn't exist" I'm actually an anti-feminist. For them to turn around and say well the dictionary says so is even funnier to me because they dismiss it's definition of sexism and racism (because it allows sexism to be directed against men and racism to be directed against white people).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/16 12:26 PM
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Shyness (more so in large groups) - So people probably think I'm boring. Approach anxiety Passivity (need a woman to display interest first before I can take on the leading role) Height - 5'8" (Yes BPers I have been rejected for this) Face - Quite a young-looking chubby face even at low body fat, also get thought of as mixed race (asian and white), and Asian guys are the most unpopular for dating. Harsh sense of humour - Unfortunately a lot of women can't handle this. Depression Anxiety Low self…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/16 09:35 AM
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Ditto.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 07:27 AM
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Meh, I had a shit time dating / having sex in both but I suppose university allowed me to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 07:27 AM
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Wow, I can relate to this so much. It's like something I've written.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 07:17 AM
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But then sometimes women aren't playing hard to get, they just aren't interested. (I've always thought that if a woman is interested she'll make it easy for you and put in some effort - at least after the initial approach). Yep, I can't comprehend complaining about attention, it's alien to me as I live at the opposite end of it all. Hell, I've even enjoyed getting my dick grabbed randomly because it validated me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 06:38 AM
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I have awesome female friends and enjoy connecting, speaking with them, etc but I hate women in general for how easy they have it when it comes to obtaining sex and dating. I hate how much judgment women lump upon men for wanting sex ("creepy", "desperate") because they get to judge us from an advantageous position. I hate that in order to do well with women, I have to be an "alpha", not allowed to show weakness, having to be everlastingly "confident". As a shy guy, with approach anxiety, genera…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 06:37 AM
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If that was true, women wouldn't have casual sex at all. (I feel I have posted this exact comment before :/ )
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 12:09 PM
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The interesting thing about "nice guys" is that they are using a female sexual strategy - Niceness / passivity - and hoping it works and when it doesn't (due to women's natural propensity towards traditional masculinity), they become angry. Nice guys wouldn't exist if men hadn't been lied to with all that "just be yourself", if they hadn't internalized all that bullshit about equality and thinking it could be applied to dating / sex. Also because feminists believe that men have an easy life due …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/16 03:31 PM
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I went to university for five years in the UK and was approached once (in an off campus club) Most of the men I know were never approached either and we're talking about a 60:40 F:M ratio here. Guess in this regard - that 80/20 rule really is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 11:37 AM
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Any man that comes outside the constraints of of traditional masculinity is going to be "punished" (for lack of better term) socially / sexually / romantically. So every step they take away from womens masculine ideal (tall, handsome, good shape, big dick, confident, socially popular, etc.) is going to reduce romantic success - I'd say incels tend to be really far away from this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 05:24 PM
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I'd say it could be if women and mens sexual power was equal / the same value. But it's not, hence why men complain that it's unfair, then blue pillers say "stop whinging - Lifes unfair, now let me complain about the wage gap".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 05:27 PM
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If I didn't have approach anxiety I probably wouldn't be envious, however as I've only been approached by a woman once in my life, yes I'm envious that I can't play a passive role in dating and how badly it worsens my sex / relationship life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 05:16 PM
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Purple No Technically no because I slept with the women again (2) Yes Yes Yes A couple of hours. Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 08:50 AM
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Mine is "I make up for it with my width".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 08:37 PM
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I've thought something similar OP. Negging is what men do to each other but women can't handle that sweet equality. I've also always thought of negging as teasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 08:56 AM
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I don't think I've been rejected for being muscular. I've had people tell me that it can be intimidating (though I think this is bullshit - plenty of really attractive, tall, handsome guys get loads of female attention - wouldn't they also be intimidating using this logic?). I do know that being shy and muscular is a curse because people judge me as an idiot when I'm just quiet. So I'd say there are negative associations that come alongside it that might put women off.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 06:42 PM
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Personally, I think these women are experiencing what a normal bloke does his whole life - being undesired and having to earn sex / relationships (as they aren't given to us). Unsurprisingly, they struggle to handle it after having it so good for such a time.
/r/MensRights31/05/16 09:34 PM
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Affirmative consent is a reinforcement of what feminists claim to be against - that evil "patriarchy". Expecting men to take responsibility for sex whilst claiming men and women are equal (e.g. should be shared responsibility). This is never more evident than drunken sex where feminists will claim a woman has been raped even if the man is drunk too. Also you haven't mentioned things like "creep-shaming" and attacking men who approach women. One of the big issues here is that women are the ones w…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 08:35 PM
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Is that why my anger is justified when women complain to me about manspreading? After all they don't know what it is like to have dangling man berries or a male hip structure ...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/16 10:04 AM
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If that's true why do so many women sleep around at university? Or in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/16 09:38 AM
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The only problem I have with this is I don't choose to have social anxiety when it comes to meeting women and approaching them. I'd love to click my fingers and for it to go away so that I can have (more) sex and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/16 09:32 AM
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But you think if someone calls a woman a slut it's unfounded?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 01:41 AM
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As often as men, they're just better at hiding it and more likely to try and justify it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/16 07:20 AM
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The underlying philosophy of feminism is men oppress women as a class, patriarchy theory, etc. This gives rise to mainstream thoughts within feminism such as "sexism against men doesn't exist" and believing that the problems men face only exist (if a feminist can even admit this) only arise as a consequence from oppressing women. To any person who disagrees with this, agreeing with any points feminists make means supporting a set of paradigms that we find reprehensible.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 08:48 AM
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All feminists believe men oppress women as a class. "All PiV is rape feminists" use this paradigm to say that women can't fully consent to sex due to the difference in power between men and women. Yet sex positive feminists only believe the former and not the latter ...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 08:44 AM
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I think with the right demographics it would be good, like in a city but a gay guy in a little village will have a hard time meeting other gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 07:52 AM
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I think when I reached 22 as a virgin, came to university and still struggled to have female attention as well as a 100% rejection rate when in clubbing, etc. I remember not really having women being interested in me at school either. I've had sex / a relationship now but it's quite clear to me i'm at the bottom of the pile considering most 18 years at uni have much more sexual experience than me even though I'm 8 years older. I still don't notice female attention and suffer severe depression as…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 07:50 AM
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I'd argue women will see vulnerability as a weakness irregardless of whether it actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 07:34 AM
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I'm pretty shy and I'd say, in my experience, it is very unattractive to women. I have a low count in terms of sexual partners and relationships so it is logical to assume that women don't find it attractive (although it could be my face as well I guess). The only time I notice female attention is when I take my top off in the summer / on holiday. :/
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 07:31 AM
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I've download tinder twice and deleted it once again. First time I got 800 matches using a shirtless pciture (doing topless modelling for charity). Last time I redownloaded it and only got 100 (did they change the algorithm?) Both times I found it incredibly hard to get any where with women, so ultimately I've given up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 07:45 AM
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In the middle of a lift? As a meathead gym bro that is disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 06:11 PM
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He shouldn't in front of her and should go back to some friends, joke and move on. But I am recognising the fact that men are human, so their reactions are always gonna vary and some will be cunts. Personally I believe if there was a 50 / 50 split we'd get the same reactions from men and women. (I've being called gay really angrily before for accidentally rejecting an attractive woman).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 06:10 PM
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It could get annoying but are you able to understand that the flip side for men is never getting hit on? Would it be preferable for no man to ever approach a woman he finds cute because she might have been hit on in the past?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 06:03 PM
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Fair enough. Are there any contexts where you believe slut shaming to be appropriate?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 06:00 PM
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Rejection isn't shaming. I'd disagree and say that your second example is though, although I've never heard friends try and put other male friends down with the creepy word. They tend to just laugh. What happens if you never get signals? Do you believe only women should be able to control the initiation of social interactions? The fact that the concepts of sexualisation and objectification exist is a judgement on male sexuality, it's pretty much saying men only see women as objects just because …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 05:58 PM
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Indeed, that's why I recognised slut shaming in my OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 05:51 PM
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I think the problem is that you think men can be shamed only when they're doing something wrong rather than the act in itself. Women can be just as horrible as men. In terms of practicality I'd agree (and I already did with someone in this thread).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 05:44 PM
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This is an interesting and unique reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 05:40 PM
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I agree with most of your common sense thing except sometimes you can't tell if a woman is receptive, as she might not have seen you, etc. Personally it's good that you're polite in your rejections and I believe that some men really should learn to take it well (although maybe go back to some supportive mates to be cheered up). Men are human however and rejection doesn't tend to feel nice for anyone. The owe argument is really weird, it's just another way of shoehorning the "male entitlement" pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 12:44 PM
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But what is wrong with sex? Presumably women enjoy it like men do? In which case, there is nothing wrong with approaching a woman for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 12:33 PM
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Is becoming nasty upon rejection limited to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 08:31 PM
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I never found out what happened to him apart from reading the newspaper article about him getting sent to jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 07:40 PM
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I had an argument with my female friend about this and she was unable to differentiate between her own personal experience and "on average".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 07:50 AM
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Don't forget Balcony Brah and YaBoyDave. Glorious times. I think people just like fucking around a lot on there.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 07:49 AM
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Feminists will mock because of their retarded belief system where they believe men have power, even in this dating context. So they'll feel justified, pat themselves on the back for sticking it to those horrible, entitled men who want companionship or sex (fucking monsters!) Of course the vast majority of men don't approach because they want to dominate / oppress women, they do it because they think someone is attractive and they know that unless they do something then nothing will happen. They …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 03:32 PM
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Went out clubbing, etc. once a week generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 05:04 PM
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To be fair, I could be very unattractive. Always thought I was average though. I'm shy so don't approach much but never get women hitting on me. :s
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 08:01 AM
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I'm in the UK and my experience at university would certainly match with redpills view on the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 08:34 AM
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I was a virgin until I was 22 so I generally had to lie about it or hint I wasn't. Being a (unwilling) virgin at that point is repulsive to women in general. Thankfully my first gf was a virgin too. I guess I felt ashamed that no-one wanted me. That I was so far behind people my own age in quite a big part of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 07:21 AM
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I gotta admit I started weight training in the hope it would make me more attractive. In my experience being muscular doesn't really help (maybe got me laid once).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 10:27 PM
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I think most have been covered but I feel this needs a mention: Reproductive disadvantages for men include paternity fraud, lack of options for contraception, when a man consents for sex he consents for parenthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 07:09 AM
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If they believe that men oppress women and this belief comes out in their actions around women. If they think men and our sexuality are inherently evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 07:03 PM
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Depression and anxiety. I take medication.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 12:28 PM
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The only problem with engineering is the demographics are so largely male that I'm guessing you have to look elsewhere to meet women (although you probably make good guy friends).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 08:21 AM
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Not exactly the question but I've accomplished everything except overcome my shyness and social anxiety so I'd say that is a massive factor (far more important than being in excellent shape - Which I am).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 08:16 AM
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Well I'm 26 and only been with five so that is a lot, so a girl with a high partner count is incompatible with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 08:57 PM
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Also, just because I orgasm doesn't necessarily make the sex good. Just like when I don't orgasm (about 30% of the time) the sex isn't necessarily bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 06:04 AM
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We'll find a way to stick it in any thread we can.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 06:02 AM
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I know this is a question for women but I've heard a fair few groups of women talking about "big guys", or saying stuff like "he was only average". My own personal experience - As per the other thread my number isn't that high but women do tend to tell me that I have the thickest dick they've been with, and one said I was the thickest but she'd had longer. To cancel out the humble brag - I'm average length.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 06:26 PM
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26 years old. N-count = 5. Within the last four years.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 08:10 PM
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Impressed enough to keep banging them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 11:28 PM
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I can see where you're coming from and I'd personally agree that vast amount of partners affects both men and women. I believe there was a study showing it affected women more than men which TRP will tend to reference but your OP contradicts that. A personal anecdote - My brother has slept with hundreds of women and he can't settle down with nice girls (needs drama). In regards to the creep thing though, I think you're trying to isolate them when they are going to impact on each other. Men who h…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 11:27 PM
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You're doing something I see a lot of feminists / BP do (although I can't blame you because the stud / slut dichotomy sets it up this way). Stud is a positive term for male sexuality, slut is a negative term for female sexuality, the stud vs. slut paradigm ignores negative, disrespectful terms for male sexuality, e.g. Creep, and has yet to provide a positive term for female sexuality (maybe "Empowered" - but it's a bit of a mouthful). So it's too simplistic to compare it in this manner. To shift…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 08:43 AM
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Just like to say I can really relate to you OP as I lost my virginity at the same age.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 08:26 AM
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This get puts up every time so yes this is a boring answer - Men who sleep around a lot aren't morally superior to women who do the same, they just have to work harder to sleep around and therefore get more respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 08:21 AM
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Cheers. Thanks for making this thread, interesting concept put more eloquently than I could have.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 08:05 PM
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I don't know if this is genuinely your opinion or if you're playing devils advocate but I'd say this is ignorant of the pelvic structure differences between men and women and is still ascribing a horrible intent (through feminisms ideological prism) onto men rather than thinking their may be differences in the way we sit because of this (and / or our glorious balls). Also, ironically, the gender-flipped version of "mansplaining" that feminists complain so much about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 07:59 PM
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Gotta admit OP, I've thought something similar for feminists and their concept of "manspreading". Rather than believe the simpler explanation that men spread their legs out of comfort, they'd prefer to believe men spread their legs to establish dominance and oppress the poor little women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 12:55 PM
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Pretty much all the guys I know - friends and my sports team do not get approached by women unless they're the extremely good looking ones. As I've said before, if this was true, shy men would sleep with as many people as the outgoing, confident type. Is this likely?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 07:37 PM
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I have depression. I still put myself out there, still force myself to go out. Of course, the difference is that as a man displaying weakness I get nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 03:02 AM
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It ascribes power that only a few men ever achieve onto all men (male privilege) and then when men say "that's not right" uses this paradigm to dismiss a mans perspective of the world (e.g. "check your privilege"). It selectively ignores the areas in which men are disadvantaged to say women are disadvantaged / oppressed and so removes all nuance and all potential for discussions. Somewhat ironically, feminism makes use of traditionalism to stop men from discussing issues that affect them (e.g. "…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 08:54 AM
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I'm an MRA and I disagree with the concept of "patriarchy" (although there are so many definitions). Just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 12:32 PM
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Simply - To have the confidence to approach lots of women, after that it's just a numbers game of finding women who are compatible with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 09:03 AM
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I've said before that when women judge men in the context of obtaining sex it is coming from an advantageous position.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:47 PM
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As an inexperienced man I'd agree with your assessment. If I was even average in terms of sexual experience and romantic relationships I would very much doubt I'd be full of insecurities and suffer depression to the extent that I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 01:35 PM
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Used to use a rampant rabbit on my ex as foreplay to get her ready. It was fun because it was the only way she could orgasm and she'd forget to breath.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 06:09 PM
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Maybe men sit with their legs open because it's comfortable and due to differences in hip structure than women? Or maybe its because we all hate women and every fibre of our being is to make them feel uncomfortable and hurt them? Which is more likely? And what is a woman's motivation for putting her bag on another seat? Hatred for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 06:06 PM
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I think feminists have the potential to do well in the areas in life in which women are disadvantaged. However, they should steer clear of mens issues and how they interpret male behaviour because they seem to frequently portray it so wrong it seems like the equivalent of "women are hypergamous slut bags who will cheat for alpha dick". Examples, "male entitlement", "men oppress women as a class and have no problems" (rather than the latter being "women have X problem to deal with more than men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 05:51 PM
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When I had a gf I used to joke about it and I think we both were kind curious just to try it but not THAT curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 07:32 PM
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Can't even bring myself to initiate on that. I lack the courage that other men seem to have (to put themselves out there to be rejected).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 02:04 AM
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Then shouldn't she be communicating that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 01:07 AM
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When I was in a relationship it was pretty much every time we had sex for us both. I couldn't get her to orgasm from it (and I'm the same with blowjobs). Thankfully I bought a rampant rabbit and used it on her to get her there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 01:05 AM
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Does hard dick not feel good to women? (Then again, if you're smashed it's like trying to pick a lock with wet spaghetti).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 11:11 AM
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Nah. It opened my eyes in a few ways and put words to phenomenon I've observed (although I disagree with some concepts, hence why I'm purple). No writing has ever made me get over my approach anxiety which seems incredibly limiting. So in this regard, red pill can't help. Hell, even therapy can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 10:55 AM
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Obviously a big old guestimate but I'd say 10 %. However I have narrow parameters for defining cute - short, petite, girl next door kinda thing. I can think a tall women is beautiful but have no attraction to her. I also find women who are "cute" beautiful and sexy anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 10:32 AM
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Male. Physical: I'm 5'8" Other than that I'm shy, depressed and stubborn as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 10:27 AM
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I'm 26 so the messages people like me have received from society might be different to the ones that men who are older have. Or not. But it would be interesting to look into (for me). That's fair enough but it's worth noting that both traditionalism ("man up") and feminism ("male tears") tend to reinforce the idea that men shouldn't open up and / or complain about their problems. Hence when they do, society in general is like, wtf you on about?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 07:41 PM
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The claim isn't normally that men suffer institutional sexism from women but that they can and do suffer institutional sexism (that it actually exists in the first place). An example of this is the criminal justice system, in which men tend to get 65% longer sentencing (UK) and are more likely to get sentenced in the first place. This doesn't mean that women oppress men, it just means that there are disadvantages to being a man that mainstream feminism ignores and plays down. How old are you btw…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 12:39 PM
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Xem, it's because some men have power, therefore we all have power.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 09:30 AM
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The person quoted seems like an idiot. If your ideological paradigm is one of "women are oppressed, men are oppressors" then no shit, you're always gonna end up at the conclusion that women have more shit to deal with then men. You have inherent confirmation bias and a built in philosophy that will always seek the worst in men and the best in women. It's worth mentioning this is the same ideological group that came up with the idea that men spread their legs on public transport to oppress women …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 09:28 AM
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Purple. Was in a two year relationship, don't think she cheated.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 05:56 PM
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One of the major contributors to my depression is being shy with women I find attractive (and being shy in general to be honest). So I've missed out on a big part of life (romance and sex) and feel bitter. Who wouldn't? Note: I still have managed to have one relationship and sleep with a few women. Somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 05:00 PM
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I say that I believe in equality (as much as I can) but I'm definitely not a feminist because I disagree with the ideological paradigms that it consists of (patriarchy theory, oppressed / oppressor dichotomy, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 03:12 PM
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It's hard to take the "no shirtless" seriously. I changed from that to a professional picture of me in a suit, at a mates wedding smiling. No matches at all from then onwards. Before someone says it, yes, my face is probably nothing special (always thought it was average to be honest).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 03:03 PM
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This person did it in my thread. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/3wf9xq/both_pills_does_anyone_have_any_idea_how_to_get/cxvrguj
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 10:19 PM
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If this was correct and generalisable then shy, quiet men would have more sexual partners than sexually assertive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 09:52 AM
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Although I think you still have it hard, you don't have it as hard as an ugly man. Then again, I know a really fat, unattractive woman who works as an escort so the fact that she can get laid and even get paid for sex really fits in with my own biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 11:18 AM
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Obviously anecdotal, but I have had two dates from 760 matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 11:04 AM
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When I told people I was a virgin until I was 22 they don't really understand why. Ironically (and what I have to reiterate with the retards who always seem to say "why do men worry about no-one wanting to sleep or be with you so much") I'd say it contributed to me having a major "defect" (depression and all the related goodies, anxiety, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 08:00 AM
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It's true in a way. For men to change this we would have to be more selective of who we hit on for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 10:13 PM
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Although I'm shy initially, once a woman has established attraction I do become more dominant and decisive. Or at least I did in the long term relationship I did have. I actually find it pretty funny tbh, it reminds me of stories i've heard of women who were dominant outside the bedroom but submissive when it came to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 01:07 AM
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Because of this: http://www2.hawaii.edu/~elaineh/79.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 10:09 AM
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From when I've overheard women talk about it, it's to do with being filled up as well as the visual aspect. I'm guessing the women who orgasm from penetration are the ones who truly care. My friend is dating a guy with an 8 inch dick which she can take all the way, she's told me size doesn't matter but if she and him ever break up and she has to move down to less, are they really gonna be able to stimulate her like he can? It doesn't make sense to my male brain (bigger cock should cause increase…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 11:20 PM
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Multiple people are telling you it's more complex than simply being a virgin. If it wasn't then I'd guess men could freely talk about going to whores without being socially penalised (being thought of as a loser).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 11:01 PM
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I call women creepy sometimes. Unsurprisingly, they don't like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 10:31 AM
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It sucks to not be wanted or desirable. On a related note: I always find it funny when sex positive feminists who go around sleeping with lots of people can't understand why male virgins (or men with low smv) would like to do the same . 2.Tied in to number one, hiring someone defeats the purpose of being desired by someone as you're having to pay them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 10:17 AM
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I'm into weightlifting and most bodybuilders I know just seem like normal dudes, varying all over the spectrum in personality, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 08:38 PM
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So in the context of MMA, wouldn't you find it annoying for the men to mock you for being weaker than them? Are you able to understand why men might become bitter about the whole dynamic in regards to sex? It doesn't excuse hatred but it does provide an explanation for its existence. I personally don't agree with slut shaming per se, although I don't consider refusing to date someone because of their partner count shaming in the first place. EDIT: For clarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 01:37 PM
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It probably wasn't the best analogy but it was to point out the difference in success rates, not that men and women are in direct competition. If you think of an advantage that men hold over women, you'd expect women to say it is unfair so why can't men say the same about sex? There's actually a thread in the Gender Equality forum on reddit discussing the link between slut shaming and the "Ability-to-get-laid gap".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 08:41 AM
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It actually means your viewpoint is one from an advantageous position. Like if a woman complains she's less likely to get a job than a guy in certain industries, say construction or STEM, and then I turn around and say that she is just jelly whilst thinking it is a valid counter point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 09:29 PM
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Personally, I think "nice guys", (and I'm one of them), have taken on the female trait of passiveness in regards to dating and / or getting sex. The problem is, unless you're a really attractive guy, you can't afford to do this. So from this, men stepping outside their traditional gender role of being assertive and confident (and all that good stuff) end up not having the romantic / sex life that they want and the people who are meant to understand and recognise this (feminists), instead mock an…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 04:56 PM
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I'm in good shape, hair is fine, dress well. If I'm not attractive to warrant IOIs at this point then in all likeliness you are correct at me just not being attractive, in which case my depression is justified.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 01:35 PM
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I actually said this to my therapist hah. Although I wouldn't say I'm ugly. Just average.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 01:21 PM
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It's not been that helpful for me personally (yet). I'd recommend you try it if needed because everyone is different in what works for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 01:08 AM
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I get matches on tinder but i've only had two dates from it. Can barely get women to respond nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 01:07 AM
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Yes, I have trouble speaking in larger groups, I'd say i'm pretty good with one on one, genuine conversations. Sometimes I can talk to strangers, sometimes it scares me. Yes to fear of public speaking. I go to university, go clubbing twice a week, normally hang out with my sports team of guys, I'm quite quiet in the group environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 01:05 AM
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I rarely see IOIs.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 01:02 AM
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SWIM found cocaine to completely eliminate approach anxiety.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 01:01 AM
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I'm in excellent shape already to be honest. I don't derive any confidence from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 12:59 AM
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To be fair, I've heard it doesn't have a high chance of success in broad daylight in the middle of the street for example but if you're out clubbing or in another social environment like a pub it seems like its quite common.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 08:55 PM
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I understand OP, although, if I'd been with a lot of women I wouldn't be insecure about a woman having a high number. I don't think women can empathise with this position because they can get laid so easily, so they know they can always find someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 01:40 PM
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I've thought about this myself and besides the more obvious lying option, I wonder if homosexuals on each side will cause it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 05:59 PM
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I suffer from depression as well, the anger is the icing on a truly fucked up cake. I wish I was dead more than wishing it would magically get better.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 10:50 AM
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For what it's worth, I'm definitely a number 1. I just don't vent on TRP. Then again, I have had a small amount of success.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 11:18 PM
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I think if a girl told me she slept with a black dude because she wanted a big dick I'd probably avoid her because I'm average. But that's the same as with girls who sleep with dudes with big dicks in general - so equality!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 07:24 PM
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Of course your gf would be supportive, women don't have to worry about the size of their vaginas because they can tighten them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 07:20 PM
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Feminism makes the disingenuous claim that it is "equality for all".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 06:19 PM
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Weight training and lacrosse. Recognise some aspects of red from what I've observed in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 02:07 PM
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I have depression because I'm shit with women but red pill at least allowed me to understand why.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 09:25 AM
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"The thing is, red pill is obsessed with women. How to find women who are controllable, how to "gain confidence" just to get laid. Trying to learn tricks to get laid. It's, honestly, so pathetic." The problem with this is you're coming at it from a female perspective. Women don't need confidence or tricks, you don't tend to need to invest the time that men do into being good with the opposite sex. You can even be brutally honest ("hey I want to fuck") and get sex handed to you on a platter. In t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 01:38 PM
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I found it too depressing and I suffer from depression anyway. I don't need more reasons to kill myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 12:17 PM
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Thank you, I don't tend to take on board a message if I feel like someone is being a cunt but that was a much nicer reply, and I'm purple mate, I don't scream "AWALT". :p I've read the Rational Male and although there are aspects I do agree with, I am critical too. I never wanted to become this way, I didn't ask to be shy around women but I know is it has made me incredibly bitter and contributed to my depression. Unfortunately, I think it's far too late for me. Losing my virginity late confirme…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 05:50 PM
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Yes because I reversed my name to be clever rather than because the alternative was taken. I'm asking people on here because its more generalisable and gives a better picture than a girl who I've cut contact with. If you have such a problem with the topic, you could have just not bothered to reply. It obviously would have saved us both the effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 04:19 PM
5

Thanks, your first part is expanding on MrsPounds points. As for your latter section, from my perspective, any physical validation is better than none.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 03:32 PM
6

Weirdly enough, this discussion is about consensual sex. It shouldn't need saying that rape is not mutual, otherwise it wouldn't be rape, would it? Well, where are all the men complaining about it? I'm not complaining about the hook-up scene, I WAS saying I didn't really understand where the girl was coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 03:28 PM
3

Fair enough. So really it's an issue of honesty and two peoples intentions matching up (hook-up, relationship fwb, etc) ? Sometimes I don't cum from sex but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy it. Just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 12:51 PM
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Nope. Never. Here's my female friend on how to get over approach anxiety - ""Just fake confidence". Then again, PUA's give the same advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 12:42 PM
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They appear to be committing an apex fallacy here, I bet the majority of guys on there are like me, average, and therefore rarely get anywhere with women. Whereas the women on there probably have loads of attention and offers of sex and go for the guys at the top.
/r/MensRights17/08/15 06:56 AM
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Eugh this is me (except I don't have the benefit of being tall). Add on that to my depression and anxiety and I'm fucked. I'm shy initially. If it's a girl I'm not attracted to or a guy then I'm fine off that bat. In my experience I'd say under 1%. Any man that display weakness will be discounted, shyness is a major weakness to women. I've even seen open disgust and hatred in womens eyes before which is unnerving to say the least. Also I'd say you can get a relationship but you won't get many, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/15 03:34 PM
5

I can empathise with you and your friend, I'm the same. I'm shy, so I can't approach women. So I struggle every day wanting to kill myself and it's impacted every other area of life now (my education, etc.)
/r/MensRights15/08/15 10:17 AM
2

Damn I know these feels brother. Sucks being a low value dude after a break-up. Women are able to fuck around in abundance once the relationship ends but unless you're a top male you get fuck all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 03:09 PM
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Used to be really insecure about my dick size so this topic still interests me (even just asked the sex worker a question about it). IMO, most women want larger than average, however, two of the girls i've been with I've bottomed out in with my average length and all struggled with my girth (which is statistically pretty sw0le). That said, I have a female friend whose boyfriend is 8 inches long and she can take it all with no discomfort so if they break up I just don't see how any man shorter th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 06:42 PM
1

I've always thought that the more sexual partners a woman has, the more she would care about penis size. Seeing as you have slept with over three hundred men, would you agree / disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 06:29 PM
8

Creepy as fuck.
/r/MensRights05/08/15 10:59 AM
0

I think men get hung up on it because it affects sexual pleasure whereas the preference for being curvy, etc. doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 10:28 AM
2

I'm a UKer so uncut. I'm not against it if the person can consent (so no babies) or for medical reasons. I don't really understand the massive animosity between uncut / cut groups of guys either. Seems fucking stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 01:52 AM
1

5'8", average face (get told I look asian though), muscular. So 5/10?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 09:14 AM
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I'm physically fit so I've turned down overweight girls. I had an attractive woman (although not my usual type) hit on me in a club once but I was so shocked that a girl would actually pay attention to me I ran away.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 08:51 AM
2

In the UK it's a POM. Source: BNF (I'm a pharmacy student).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 10:40 AM
1

I think the problem is that men are told all the time that we have it easy and for some weird reason that doesn't jive well for us. For example, men are told we are not judged or shamed for our sexuality unlike women, whereas in reality, men can be judged as creepy or losers or indeed in some cases as too promiscuous as well. I fully recognise women have issues in the western world (and the world in general) however.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 09:33 AM
2

One year if I don't fail my retake. I'm not the biggest fan of maths either, takes so much practice for me to get it. I'm guessing our need probably comes from feeling like missing out in the past. Definitely an over-analyser. Thank you for sharing.
/r/MensRights30/07/15 12:48 PM
2

I live in the UK. Thank you for your concern though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 12:37 PM
1

I think it may work for relationships (my best mate is getting married to a girl he was friends with first), very rarely for hook-ups.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 09:18 AM
2

I've been sexually assaulted technically (my dick grabbed in a club). I'm working at a bar at the moment and had my ass grabbed by a few of the female staff and I've been licked on the face and elbow (that one was random). None of this bothers me because I am actually getting attention from a woman. Seeing as sexual harassment is counted as cat-calling - I've been beeped at, wolf-whistled, had comments whilst working topless as a labourer.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 09:07 AM
2

Interesting. I would also say that I'm too sensitive as well (and shy too), this affects my interactions with people in general in that I don't say much, which feeds into the depression. I wonder if that is generalisable. I'd destroy the desire for sex and relationships, so that I can get on with my life rather than letting it fuck up my education.
/r/MensRights28/07/15 05:21 PM
2

What are your thoughts? What should be done to reduce this? Should men be treated the same as women in regards to depression and suicide? Curious by the way, not attacking you.
/r/MensRights28/07/15 05:13 PM
1

I'd agree with you a little bit, it's important for MRAs to constantly be critical of their own views but this subreddit still allows differing opinions, such as yours, whereas most feminist ones are heavily against free speech. People get pre-emptively banned from them if they even come here.
/r/MensRights28/07/15 12:55 PM
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I have to admit as a man with depression, I'm not too sure about the whole "men need to talk more". Talking more doesn't fix my fear of approaching women, doesn't help the loneliness that comes with this. The only thing that will is a solution to this issue. However, when men like me do open up and do turn to the enlightened feminists, we get told to shut up and stop being entitled, that we have it so good.
/r/MensRights28/07/15 12:44 PM
2

My experience has always taught me that men don't express vulnerability because women can't handle it. I have feminist friends that I express my problems to when drunk but the truth is, deep down they probably feeling like rolling their eyes and telling me that I have it easy because I'm a man.
/r/MensRights27/07/15 06:02 PM
1

No, the rational male is depressing as hell. I have no idea how to overcome my fear of approaching women and its got to the point where the depression from not being able to do this is affecting my college work. I have no self esteem, no confidence, nothing. I'm a fucking shell, trapped in a cycle. I have read that book. If I can be assed I'll give it a go again.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 09:29 PM
2

My dad suffers from depression (like me) and is a borderline alcoholic. I'd say my mum is a bit too coddling but from this combo I don't really know how I ended up so shy with low confidence, low self-esteem (the polar opposite of my younger brother who has slept with hundreds of women).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 11:04 AM
1

I'd probably agree with the feminist sentiment "no-one is entitled to sex / relationships". Doesn't make it any better when you're a male at the bottom of the food chain though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 10:33 AM
1

Thanks for the advice. I'm 25 but very late to this game and the learning curve isn't pretty. Seems to be a lack of honesty from both sides in dating and sex but obviously because I'm a heterosexual guy I only see the bad things women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 10:31 AM
2

I was just speaking to a girl on tinder a couple of weeks ago, got her number, texted her to get a meet-up. She said yes, then didn't give me a day when free. Tried again, said I appreciate honesty, so she said she did too, said I didn't have work at X days. Again, she didn't give me a time when she was free, so I just gave up. So I'm guessing it was just for attention, rather than her actually being interested in me. I find things like this annoying as hell and it re-affirms red pill ideas like…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 03:25 PM
6

That second paragraph hit home, I was talking with my feminist friend the other day and said that there were disadvantages to being a man. She asked "is there?" with an incredulous tone.
/r/MensRights16/07/15 08:07 AM
2

Creep is largely a gendered slur aimed at men. Similar to the female "slut". It can be levelled at anyone for anything even though it may have had a distinct meaning when it first arose (a guy with poor social skills harassing a woman?). Now it can be anything from that to an ugly guy daring to look in a woman's direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 03:11 PM
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I live in the UK and supposedly its meant to happen here more than the US. I've only been cold approached once in a nightclub, leading me to believe I am unattractive or it doesn't happen often.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 02:58 PM
1

I'm shy so I'm uncomfortable every time I speak to new people, but should they never speak to me? Should I never make new friends? Never have a romantic relationship? Never have sex? From what I gather, there is an irreconcilable difference in the perspective of men and women in this regard. There is an obvious asymmetry between the number of approaches. So my perspective, as a man, is that it's very easy for women to sit back and say that men shouldn't approach women, but this comes from a posi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 03:28 PM
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Weird how all these sex positive feminists and blue-pillers change their tune when it comes to men. If you say, men shouldn't approach women at x, y and z, then you believe in putting constraints on sexuality, you're reinforcing the idea that male sexuality is something dirty, low-value and should be kept to certain situations. Furthermore, if everyone had the attitude - I shouldn't talk to this person because other people have talked to them in the past - then no-one would have relationships, n…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 11:44 AM
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That I, as a man, could get away with being shy and that maybe women would actually approach me. That being good would translate into romantic success.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 10:32 PM
0

I'd agree for the most part. Although I was in a relationship for two years, met a girl on my course 1 year into that and when the relationship ended she leapt on me. She admitted she had been attracted to me at the start and when she saw I was single again she made a move.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 06:52 PM
3

Maybe I've misunderstood this as it has been some time since I looked at the book. My impression of hypergamy was "aiming up", which includes looks (being good looking gives high status, hence we get things like the halo effect, etc.) , men aren't exempt from wanting the best looking woman possible. So from this I would say men are hypergamous too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 01:00 PM
2

I just started working as a bartender so it means I have to speak to people, make eye contact, etc. But thank you for the help. Your latter suggestion seems like something PUAs recommend and I've heard it can be harmful for people with low self-esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 02:19 PM
8

I'd consider myself an average guy in the face, bit shorter than average, awesome physique but shy, so this is just my perspective (which will obviously be subject to bias). I first read the Rational Male because I wanted to understand why women found me unattractive and there are some things I agree with (because I can directly observe them), some I don't. IMO both men and women are hypergamous, but women can pull it off easier because men have to approach them which leads to an imbalance in "p…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 02:00 PM
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