ElTuffo Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

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0	What’s your go-to move for that first date greeting? Man, I've got two small pet peeves that'll surely kill a chance of a second date: 1, if she doesn't order a drink (I drink, I enjoy drinking, not ordering a drink is no go for me, and I'm not talking about getting drunk or anything, but at least one drink.) 2, if she doesn't hug. Now never, in the many first dates I've been on can I remember not getting a hug, but if it ever did happen, there's a 0 chance of her getting a second date from me.	/r/seduction	04/09/25 04:22 PM
0	What’s your go-to move for that first date greeting? "Hey!" and a hug. If you're putting a ton of thought into this, then you're already fighting a losing battle. The hug is a must though.	/r/seduction	04/09/25 04:17 PM
3	Those w/ 2+ women active on your rosters, how did you achieve that? It's not terrible advice, it's just that Reddit hates dating apps and he's probably focusing on that. I cleaned up on the dating apps, but the mileage there varies wildly.	/r/seduction	08/04/25 08:25 PM
5	Best Jobs for Maximizing Seduction Opportunities? OK smartass. I don't work in oil and gas anymore. I've dated tons of women in healthcare along with several in marketing, and as far as sales goes that comes from work experience. Note: I have NEVER met a pharma rep in my life (pharma is not the only industry in the world that uses sales reps).	/r/seduction	14/03/25 12:40 PM
21	Best Jobs for Maximizing Seduction Opportunities? If you're looking at "industries", I'm guessing your a little too old for this, but what really honed my game, long before I discovered the seduction community, was getting a summer job in a tourist area. I was 19 years old, and all day all summer long there were beautiful girls / women wearing shorts and bikini tops. If you had any anxiety talking to women before that, it was gone after the first day after helping beautiful girls in bikinis all day long. As far as entire industries go you're go…	/r/seduction	13/03/25 05:51 PM
11	Best Jobs for Maximizing Seduction Opportunities? I can think of many many jobs where you'd be hard pressed to come across an attractive woman.	/r/seduction	13/03/25 05:27 PM
23	good places where to find women that are dtf? I'm not the guy you're telling to shut up but I'll respond for him. Basically, if you're not someone women find attractive, it doesn't matter if you go to college bar on a Friday night before a big football game. Women aren't going to fuck you. On the flip side, if you are someone women find attractive, then you can go the grocery store in gym shorts and find women. There's a lot of nuance here also, there is no magical place where any guy can go and find women who are DTF. For example, if you'r…	/r/seduction	04/03/25 06:24 PM
4	Do women get turned off if you tell them you really like them? I think one of the problems with the seduction scene is that a lot of people try to break these things down into algorithms. This + this = this. But humans are humans and every human is different, we aren't robots. Telling this to a woman who is actively looking for a relationship and is into you is probably not a bad thing at all. Telling this to the party girl who's just looking to fuck, then it's probably a mistake. You've got to know when you can say things and know when you can't say things…	/r/seduction	03/01/25 08:09 PM
2	What is the Most Amount of Women You Can Talk to at Once? For me, it was probably about 3, more than that it just gets be too much to keep up with and you flat out end up losing track of some women. Like, you realize, "damn we haven't talked in a couple of weeks", at that point it's kinda too awkward to text, you've clearly forgotten about her, so you just let it go.	/r/seduction	04/12/24 03:25 PM
9	I don't understand what flirting is Nothing is awkward really unless you keep pushing it, and I mean that with all types of flirting, eye contact or verbal. This is where I always struggle explaning this to socially awkward Redditors but it's not hard to read a woman's subtle clues. For example say you give a woman a glance and slight smile, they almost always react in a few ways: Holds eye contact and smiles back. This is good. Keep going. Holds eye contact for a bit, looks away, then looks back. Also good, not as good as a smile…	/r/seduction	22/11/24 08:57 PM
19	I don't understand what flirting is You'll see lots of different answers here, and really, all of them are probably correct in their own way. For me, flirting is the art of saying "I'm attracted to you" without directly saying it. So far all I can gather is it is teasing, changing your tone etc. I'm kind of a natural so I struggle with putting it into words and I also have a very expressive face, but you don't even have to talk to flirt. You can flirt with just your eyes. I can remember a few times in my life where an otherwise in…	/r/seduction	22/11/24 01:15 PM
4	Expensive dates sub-communicate low value and desperation The main point here is avoid the “I only do dinner dates” women. Second this as the main point. Some women are users, it's probably a good idea if you're not very socially cognizant to just avoid expensive dates altogether just to weed these women out. With that said, as the people here become more socially aware, there's nothing wrong with a $200 dinner for a first date. I did them occasionally, the main thing is your frame. If you're doing it to try to impress the women, you're framing it wron…	/r/seduction	19/11/24 09:18 PM
3	Why am I getting dumped after one date? I think it might be part of the problem though. I reserve the word "dumped" for when I'm in a committed relationship. "My girlfriend of 6 months dumped me." You just used it in the context of one date. One date is not a relationship, one date is only the very first step toward a relationship. Saying you got dumped after one date is like saying you got fired from a job because they didn't call you back after the first interview. It wasn't a firing because you were never hired to begin with. Going…	/r/seduction	16/11/24 06:05 PM
48	East Asian guys who get laid in Europe, how? I'm in the US. One of the best guys I knew with women is East Asian... like you say though, he was in the US Marine Corps so he's in great shape, he went to college and when he got out and got a good job, he's really outgoing and funny. He did just fine with the ladies of all races.	/r/seduction	08/11/24 01:15 PM
3	East Asian guys who get laid in Europe, how? Practically, your advice is all fine; it's wrong to assume it's media programming, though. When: 1) Most girls worldwide date exclusively within race and social class/caste and always have, 2) Most girls worldwide are looking for someone taller, bigger, and more connected and always have been, then any extra explanation that involves "no man, the media" is superfluous. I heard the same bullshit in reverse "Men only like breasts because the media told them to." from girls. It's always other peopl…	/r/seduction	08/11/24 01:06 PM
4	What's the quickest time youve gotten a woman into the bedroom? I'm not sure if this really counts, but about an hour or two, and this has happened several times. The reason I said I'm not really sure if it counts is that we had mutual friends and had met before one time in passing, but I had never really actually talked to her. Anyway, I was out one night with those mutual friends and she came out to meet up with them also. We started talking, we decide to continue the party back at my place (all of us, mutual friends included), and shortly after she was in…	/r/seduction	04/11/24 09:57 PM
2	Do different men peak at different ages? Dude, work on building a good life now, the "inner game" stuff. Do you know how many people peak at 30? Doctors are a good example, they're the nerdiest of nerds of high school and college, but man they clean up once they have that "Dr" title.	/r/seduction	29/10/24 02:11 PM
2	Do different men peak at different ages? I would never cheat on my wife. You are right, I've sowed my oats, I've got nothing to prove. When you're very attune to IOIs it's hard not to notice though. I won't lie here, it's flattering as hell, especially when it comes from someone 10+ years younger, so I do like the attention even if I'd never act on it.	/r/seduction	29/10/24 02:04 PM
8	Do different men peak at different ages? I had two peaks. I peaked once in my early 20s in college, partying every week, meeting a new chick(s) every weekend only broken up by a handful of girlfriends. It slowed down greatly as I got into my mid-20s after I started working and partying every weekend became exhausting/old. I still did alright, but meeting new women went from weekly to monthly. A serious "dry spell" for me in college was 2-3 weeks, in my mid 20s it was 2-3 months. I got married and got divorced in my early 30s, and exper…	/r/seduction	28/10/24 06:30 PM
1	We talk about how to seduce a girl, but how about keeping her interested in the long run? Agree with you. I was mostly just simplifying it for the folks here who need it simplified (so most of the people on this sub). To clarify however, the techniques and attitudes that exist in a lot of the PUA community and this sub, will work with best on the woman who aren't doing very great in the mental health department. It's not necessarily raw numbers but the mentality behind the numbers.	/r/seduction	07/08/24 05:21 PM
12	We talk about how to seduce a girl, but how about keeping her interested in the long run? So so true. To add to what you're saying, the women that the seduction community generally encourages people to seek, do not make good long term girlfriends. I know no one is outright saying "go for slutty women", but rather the "techniques", tricks, and the generally mentality that a lot of guys on this sub have ("if she doesn't sleep with you the first date move on" kinda stuff) are going to self select for poor quality women who don't make for good long term relationships. Like the old adage …	/r/seduction	06/08/24 05:47 PM
2	How to know which girls are easy "Down to Fuck", it's what we used to say back in the day (I'm old, in my 40s). "She DTF?" "Yea dude, I'm in."	/r/seduction	19/07/24 08:26 PM
2	On the verge of getting laid I know it's slightly embarrassing to make a mistake like that but you probably didn't have to bail on the date, just change the plan and go somewhere else. Other than that I think you're still good judging from her response, if you're interested in more than just a quick lay go on another date.	/r/seduction	18/07/24 10:26 PM
1	On the verge of getting laid Wait, she went to your place even though she has a policy not go back to house/hotels? Or did you walk her back to your place and then she realized you were taking her home? What happened after you got to your place? Did you immediately try to go for sex? If so that's where you went wrong, you've gotta build up to it, especially on a first date. Offer her a drink, sit down on the couch and chill and talk for a bit, then escalate. In my experience this process can take anywhere from 15 minutes to…	/r/seduction	18/07/24 10:17 PM
1	How to know which girls are easy People are always looking for the easy answers, people want shortcuts. Oh she has tattoos, she's DTF! The truth here is, she may not have been DTF you, but she was DTF your friend. You really have to take it on a woman by woman and situation by situation basis. In my experience you can't tell until you talk to them and start picking up signs.	/r/seduction	18/07/24 10:03 PM
14	How to know which girls are easy It's more nuanced than that though. A lot of people here are trying to boil it down to one outward trait and you can't really do that. For me it was rarely the person with the most tattoos, in fact I don't think I've ever hooked up with a person with a lot of tattoos except for the when this girl I knew in high school hit me up 10 years later in our 20s and let me know she had a big crush on me in high school. She had a bunch of tattoos, but that doesn't really count because the attraction was t…	/r/seduction	18/07/24 12:26 PM
6	You need to spend money to get laid! Great advice. Then when you get established as an adult and actually can pay for dates and fun stuff to do, it becomes like fish in barrel. The bar is pretty damn low out there.	/r/seduction	16/07/24 01:12 AM
1	how to pass this shit test? Describing a tequila as "mouthwatering" is very out of context, like it makes it so obvious you're being a try hard and it's not a good thing. There are times to escalate her emotions, this is not one of them. Trying to talk about everyday things in some emotionally escalating way is awkward as fuck. There are times to do it, and times to not do it.	/r/seduction	10/07/24 02:27 PM
5	Are house parties overrated compared to bars/clubs when it comes to meeting women/hooking up? Or is it really significantly easier to pull at house parties? I'm older, in my 40s, college was 20 years ago, but at least back then and even into my 30s, house parties were crazy easy to meet women. Everyone knows everyone through some way so breaking the ice is easy. Even women you don't hook up with, you can work your way into invites to their parties and build your social group. As you get older, for second place I would give to fundraisers or other similar type of social events. "How did you learn about (this event)?" is a common ice breaker. Bonus po…	/r/seduction	10/07/24 02:18 PM
1	how to pass this shit test? “It’s mouthwatering” This is even cringier than OP's original response. Jesus Christ. Just treat women like human beings. "Is it good?" "It's alright, not my favorite. What's youre favorite tequila?" or "Yes it's great! It's better than the 1942, whats you're favorite tequila?"	/r/seduction	10/07/24 01:50 PM
10	Women’s interest just die out I attract beautiful women, especially on social media. Do you attract them? As in, are they adding you and making the effort to talk to you, and they aren't trying to sell you something? Just because you add them and they'll chat with you doesn't mean a thing. I have a buddy who is not attractive, and he's always adding thirst-bait chicks on instagram and even starts conversations with them. Of course it just leads to nothing because they just want attention. If you genuinely are attractive enou…	/r/seduction	25/04/24 09:51 PM
2	How do hookups happen in college? I hooked up a lot in college. I'm older in my 40s, so this was early 2000s. It was probably the craziest period of my life in terms of hooking up until dating apps came around in my 30s, then it got next level crazy. Anyway, you've gotta kinda build a life where you have a tons of friends, and you always know where the parties are or who's going out to what bar what night. Basically surround yourself with cool friends. By far most college hookups, at least for me 20 year ago now, were friends of…	/r/seduction	15/04/24 09:56 PM
1	help me understand why eye contact is such a big thing I actually naturally make a lot of eye contact and you can tell all sorts of things by learning how to read a woman's eyes. This could be anything from "I'm not interested" (typically not making any eye contact at all) to "I am interested" to "I want to fuck you" to "I love you". It's also a two way street, the way you look at someone transmits interest, or the lack thereof. I'm particularly good at this, to the point that just by making eye contact and smiling I'll have women immediately perk u…	/r/seduction	15/04/24 09:48 PM
9	How do you stop feeling insecure about interracial dating? I'm not black, I'm a brown skinned hispanic person though. It honestly just never really crossed my mind that "interracial dating" was weird. I don't know, maybe because I'm in Texas and the racial diversity is extreme, just within my family we have white people, black people, one asian, and obviously most of us are hispanic. But simply put, I never even thought of it as interracial dating, it's just dating. Most of girlfriends have been white, but I've dated the rainbow of people, white, black,…	/r/seduction	09/04/24 10:49 PM
1	Girl thinks all I want is sex. Can I turn this around or should I give up. The seduction crowd loves doing this, but almost the entire seduction crowd organizes their frame into choosing the easiest path to get laid. There's more than one type of seduction, some people aren't in it just to follow the easiest path to getting laid. Some people actually want to seduce.	/r/seduction	16/03/24 03:40 PM
5	What are the body language signs that indicates she is into you and what are the tricks to do to know if she is into you If a woman is touching you, or standing / sitting in your “personal space”, which is hard to explain but you know it when it happens, then she is into you. What I imagine is that you’re getting her attracted to you but then fucking it up by perhaps being too pushy? These things are impossible to break down into algorithms no matter how much the PUA crowd tries to. Every woman is different, and you’ve just got develop a sense of how to escalate.	/r/seduction	14/03/24 10:03 PM
5	Nervous beyond belief No shit, I’d be curious to see how the conversation went. In my experience this is not how these things happened. Don’t get wrong, I’m sure there are people on dating apps who are very explicit about wanting a one night stand… I just never met one. Usually it’s like “oh hey you’re cool, let’s me for drinks”. Then you go out and talk for bit then head back to someone’s place. I don’t think I ever explicitly planned a ONS, I’d honestly as a guy be a little creeped out if it was that explicit.	/r/seduction	14/03/24 09:59 PM
13	Looks wont keep the girl. Money wont keep the girl. Slight disagreement on the women who aren’t striving for one man… they absolutely will settle down, as soon as their looks start to fade and they realize they can’t capitalize on them anymore, they will settle down with whoever is around at the time. (This is typically somewhere in their 30s, but can be as late as their 40s depending on how well they take care of themselves / nature. Asians can be even higher because you can’t tell if they’re 25 or 60 sometimes.)	/r/seduction	14/03/24 09:47 PM
8	Girl thinks all I want is sex. Can I turn this around or should I give up. You’ve made a move at least twice and got rejected at least twice according to your post. I don’t know how it could be any more clear. The rest of the story is irrelevant. One time and it’s like “ok sure take it slow” (This sub will say one rejection is enough to move on but you absolutely can come back from one rejection. I’ve been rejected on one date and slept with her the next, it happens). But twice (and sounds like possibly even more), and dude, she doesn’t want you. Move on.	/r/seduction	14/03/24 09:44 PM
3	Why you should focus on meeting women in person and not OLD One interesting thing I’ve noticed about OLD vs in person related to “type”. I’m not white, Im a dark skinned Latin American person. In person, the vast majority of my dating and girlfriends were white girls. On line dating, the vast majority were with Latinas. On line dating definitely brings out the implicit biases that people have. In person, standing in front of a cute, funny, outgoing guy those biases matter a hell of a lot less.	/r/seduction	08/03/24 03:30 PM
5	Why you should focus on meeting women in person and not OLD I mean, for those of us who are good looking naturally, OLD takes so little effort that it’s only natural that it ends up being 90/10 ratio. I can fill out a whole months worth of dates in two hours of sitting on the couch swiping and chatting vs the one or two I might get in person going out and meeting people.	/r/seduction	08/03/24 03:22 PM
13	why doesn't game translate well within america? Reddit loves this saying and it’s really quite insulting to everyone I know went through hell, legally or illegally, to get the fuck out of third world country and to America.	/r/seduction	21/08/22 02:53 PM
2	If women love sex , why do they make it hard to get ? This right here, as someone who is good looking enough to have had women approach me and blantently flirt with me. Id think I was being setup for something if someone was ever that direct. If not a robbery a YouTube prank, or maybe one of those European scams where you buy the woman a drink and the bar charges you $1000. You see this every once in a while someone will ask on r/askmen “how do you let a guy know I want to sleep with him”. And of course this being Reddit the most upvoted answers ar…	/r/seduction	20/08/22 01:44 PM
3	Easiest way to get laid In college at least, the easiest way to get laid is house parties. And no, a house party with a bunch of dudes sitting around playing Halo and drinking beer won’t help (I’m old, college = Halo to me) I’m really outgoing so that helped. But people at house parties assume everyone knows everyone somehow, so you can just walk in and walk into any group / conversation. There’s almost always different groups in different rooms talking, I’d always walk in, introduce myself to everyone in the group and…	/r/seduction	18/08/22 02:39 PM
2	Why this "don't tryhard" advice is stupid. You demonstrate the importance of inner game here though. With this attitude, you’ve already lost before you even started. So I’ll share with you an insecurity of mine, I grew up in an upper middle class household, but my dad didn’t give me shit. My dad was a fucking cheapskate and I was the black sheep. I had to live like a poor person in college. I had a shitty apartment, I had a old shitty car. I had girlfriends and got laid, but I was always in my own head, saying “man if only I had money I’…	/r/seduction	10/08/22 06:04 PM
1	Why this "don't tryhard" advice is stupid. The work required to become attractive nowadays is just way too much considered competition is infinitely fiercer in the past You’re making excuses for yourself, which is common on this sub. I can assure you the competition is no more fierce than it ever was, which is to say the competition is not fierce, the competition is a big joke. You’ve got to reframe this mindset, most guys suck. Most guys are boring, stupid, don’t know how talk to people in general (not just women), don’t know how to mak…	/r/seduction	10/08/22 04:46 PM
31	Where can I find smart (or nerdy) women? I know this is a stereotype, but liking comics / comic culture does not equal intelligence. In fact most people I knew growing up who were into heavily into comics were not intelligent. Of the smartest people I know, all with advanced degrees in hard sciences, engineering, MDs, and M7 MBAs, none of them were or are into comics and sure as hell have never been to comic con. I could be wrong, but I was under always under the impression that a lot of the women at those things were there for the att…	/r/seduction	10/08/22 02:18 PM
1	Where can I find smart (or nerdy) women? Major in engineering, biology, finance, or a niche major like environmental science and learn to appreciate beauty that isn’t all that apparent at first. Nerdy chicks are weird in that a lot of them are quite attractive, you just don’t notice because they don’t learn how to dress well or wear make up until they’re 22. (You could say something similar about alot of guys) As for how to talk to them there’s really no trick to it, they’re human just like you, just say hi. I’ve hooked up with tons of…	/r/seduction	10/08/22 02:07 PM
10	Is it harder to find a fwb in your 30? It’s not even just photos. I know some goofy looking motherfuckers who had success on dating apps. One is in great shape so like you said, hit the gym. Another goofy looking dude I know is a doctor, no need to expand on that. You just need to maximize yourself! If you’re ugly you have to bring something else to bring to the table. Living in your parents basement, being unemployed, and playing video games all day won’t do it, sorry.	/r/seduction	09/08/22 10:57 PM
42	Is it harder to find a fwb in your 30? I know they get a bad rap here on Reddit, but try dating apps bro. There’s a lot of shit you see on Reddit that gets upvotes and tons of affirming comments that just do not reflect reality. The hate for dating apps is one of them. I’m a 40 year old man, and I don’t know a single person over 30 who met their SO after 2014 or so who did not meet on a dating app, including myself. Dating apps aren’t perfect, but they’re not as bad Reddit makes them seem. I’d like to think I was a good with women an…	/r/seduction	09/08/22 08:21 PM
16	Is it harder to find a fwb in your 30? Agreed. The 30s has tons of women who are just getting through their first divorce and looking to hoe around for a bit and tons of single women who never want to get married. I don’t think there was any difference in “trying to get married” between women in their 30s and 20s that I noticed, if anything it may have even been less common. There’s always a lot of *people, not just women, looking for relationships and not hookups across all age groups. With that said there are plenty of people, not …	/r/seduction	09/08/22 08:13 PM
5	A few things I've learned online dating as a man. I really wish I could have told myself this a year ago: Older men also have more disposable income. $100 to you is $10 to me. I don’t even feel it out of my monthly budget. Also as you get older you start doing these things more for yourself than the woman, if I’m going out on a Wednesday night first date I want an enjoyable meal / wine. The woman can come along or not, but I’m going to enjoy my meal and drinks. It’s just a change in mentality as you get older. With that said yea sometimes you just get boba and call it a date. I think I was about 50/…	/r/seduction	08/08/22 01:10 PM
5	Think back to some of the most fun and flirty conversations you've had with women...what were you talking about? The ones that pop into my head as the most fun were with coworkers. Not something I’d recommend generally but sometimes it just happens. There’s just something about how you can’t be direct with a coworker or you risk harassment that makes it a lot fun to find ways to flirt. I remember one time my smoking hot coworker from years ago started talking about marriage and kids. I do not remember exactly how it came up or what I said (this was probably 15 years ago, we were both in our mid 20s) but I …	/r/seduction	03/08/22 05:58 PM
1	How to not fumble the bag? I wouldn’t even validate that response though. She’s trying to get a response from you, bend you to her will using sex. The best response to that is no response.	/r/seduction	03/08/22 01:21 PM
1	How to not fumble the bag? I think the only option is not just escalate, but sleep with her before the wedding. If that doesn’t work out, un-invite her.	/r/seduction	03/08/22 01:16 PM
1	Why do some guys get seen in a sexual light immediately by most women whilst others don’t? I love the pooch tummy! Agreed abs and muscles are gross, I don’t want it to feel like I’m fucking a gym rat dude. My friends and I in college were all douchebags (“chads”) by Reddit standards and most of them wouldn’t even look at any girl that wasn’t a stick. She got a pass from all of them though.	/r/seduction	02/08/22 10:53 PM
3	Female friend is touchy with other male friends but not me You could be right you could be wrong. I wouldnt say it’s likely, but it’s definitely more than a small chance you’re right. Here’s an upvote for breaking the Reddit party line. This has actually happened to me before, we ended up in a 2 year relationship. Some women are touchy with people but hold back when they like someone. It does happen. I think everyone on this sub is being very cynical calling her an attention seeker and thinking that’s the only reason. With that said, the fact that she’s…	/r/seduction	02/08/22 03:08 PM
2	Why do some guys get seen in a sexual light immediately by most women whilst others don’t? That surely can’t be it though. Yes, that is it. I was told years ago that I had a “slutty aura”. I’m a guy. When I asked the girl that told me this what she meant by it she said, “people can just look at you and tell you’re down to fuck.” This was 15 years ago so I’m paraphrasing a bit. Don’t get me wrong, I’m good looking but I’m not the hottest guy out there. Also, I’m 5’7” so according to Reddit I should be a 40 year old virgin. To give an another example, years ago when I was in college I h…	/r/seduction	02/08/22 02:43 PM
5	Why do some guys get seen in a sexual light immediately by most women whilst others don’t? Heck, I know plenty of small guys that girls are obssessed with. This is pretty much a Reddit meme now. Is height attractive? Yes. Height is attractive the way a haircut is attractive, it can help, but it’s not the be all end all of attractiveness. (Although being really short can hurt you, like < 5’6”) The only two things I’ve observed in my life that make a HUGE difference in attractiveness is being in shape and dressing well. You don’t have be shredded or jacked, just in decent shape, you don…	/r/seduction	02/08/22 01:32 PM
1	How often do girls agree to a date solely to be entertained free You’ve got good replies here but… 1) This is just a life lesson in general, but you’ve gotta learn how to filter out scummy users, male or female, dating or not. 2) Live in the moment. This is like worrying you’re going to get into a car accident every time you drive. Yes it could happen, and yes you should be cautious (see point 1) but it’s not something that should consume your entire being while driving. If it is, then you’ve likely got anxiety issues and should seek professional help.	/r/seduction	28/07/22 02:06 PM
61	How often do girls agree to a date solely to be entertained free You’ll get a lot of upvotes and replies affirming this because Reddit is insanely cynical with this type of thing. If you’re worried about this, it will be on your mind during dates, which will come through in your attitude while in these dates, which will make you unattractive to your dates, which will make them not talk to you anymore, which will make it seem like they just used you. It’s a self fulfilling prophesy. This attitude is the anti-seduction. In my experience, out of the hundreds of …	/r/seduction	27/07/22 02:14 PM
-1	Girl I was talking to for a bit ghosted me after a convo me and her had about “us”, I asked what’s going on she said she’s going through stuff and isn’t talking to anyone, just to find out she’s reconnecting with her ex. Did she tell you she loves you and you’re the only one for her? Was she your official girlfriend? I know the answer to that without knowing the answer to that: no. In that case she never lied to you about anything.	/r/seduction	25/07/22 10:51 PM
2	Girl I was talking to for a bit ghosted me after a convo me and her had about “us”, I asked what’s going on she said she’s going through stuff and isn’t talking to anyone, just to find out she’s reconnecting with her ex. If you were still just in the “talking to for a bit” phase does she owe you an explanation? Does she owe you anything? Technically she didn’t even lie, she said she was going through some stuff, which - trying to figuring it out with an ex is “going through stuff”. That you even feel this way shows that YOU have a way to go. Let it go bro, this is nothing.	/r/seduction	25/07/22 09:24 PM
7	When a woman you meet on a dating app ends up canceling a date/hookup whatever. It could usually mean because she found someone else more interesting than you but…. Not just this sub but Reddit in general is quick to say, and of course upvote, “you flake on me and I’m done with you.” To me that’s an overreaction. There’s a thousand reasons why a woman might not be able to make a date that have nothing to do with going out with another guy. I remember when I was dating I matched with this smoking hot girl on a dating app. First two dates went ok, not bad not great. Truthfully I probably would’ve moved on if she wasn’t smoking hot. Third date she flakes on me…	/r/seduction	13/07/22 01:26 PM
46	I always see stuff about how guys are used as validation You don’t necessarily have to seek validation to get validation. The feeling good about it part is just human.	/r/seduction	12/07/22 09:52 PM
12	You’re not special. If someone is willing to cheat with you, they’re willing to cheat on you. Don’t let your ego convince you otherwise. This is in odd post to have here. It implies that you are going to become heavily emotionally invested in just about anyone you date, isn’t that the anti-seduction? I mean, are you going to try to marry all of these women? Approach dating with healthy distance and don’t get emotionally invested enough to get hurt until you’re pretty sure the woman is worth it. Also it’s just flat out wrong, maybe because I’m 40 and I see more mature relationships but I know several relationships that started wit…	/r/seduction	30/06/22 04:01 PM
1	Are we as men working too hard to get women? Guilty. I’m only really on this sub because I read The Game a few years ago and found it fascinating, the conversations here are interesting that’s for sure. In game terms I’m probably a “natural”, although I will say it didn’t always feel like that. It was kinda funny the book actually had terms for things I knew intuitively just by the fact that I liked to go out and flirt and talk to women (and yes, it helps I’m not ugly). With that said, I know average looking dudes who have done well online…	/r/seduction	17/06/22 08:17 PM
37	Are we as men working too hard to get women? This right here, for me online dating was WAY easier and I didn’t do bad in person either. It’s all about perspective. I met my ex wife at party, I met my current wife online dating. When you can get a date while sitting on your couch in your underwear drinking a beer and watching sports, I don’t know how you can make it any easier. (I know the average Reddit male’s #1 dream is to have women pursuing men but that’s not going to happen in our lifetimes probably) I think this post kinda illustrate…	/r/seduction	15/06/22 07:45 PM
5	Don't forget to make a girl feel wanted or you will be friendzoned I’ve been called a big flirt before. One of my exes told me “you flirt with everyone.” Honestly most of the time I don’t realize I do it. But one big time I remember, I had befriended a female coworker. With coworkers there’s always a very real line not to cross into harassment. I definitely liked her, and one day she told me she was planning a trip a France. I said back to her (this was via text) “ohh I love France! And that’s so awesome of you to buy me a ticket too.” (This was years ago, I do…	/r/seduction	06/06/22 08:52 PM
2	Girl sent me a friend-zone text. How was my response? Would like to know for learning purposes. To be fair, and I’m not saying this happens often, it happened only once in my life and I was 33, but I've turned a text like this into a friends with benefits. She was actually cool to hang out with, I actually really liked her, so I took her up on her offer to be friends. Two “friendly” dates later we hooked up (the dates were actually hanging out with her and her friends), and kept hooking up for another few months until I met my now wife and cut it off. It helped that I had a couple of other…	/r/seduction	12/05/22 11:12 PM
3	Did people have an “abundance mentality” 20 years ago? Long time lurker here, I can answer. Yes abundance mentality existed for some guys. Me being one of them. I probably fall under what you guys would call a “natural”. Very outgoing, fun, attractive. I’m 39 now, back in my early 20s, i went out all the time, probably 3-4 times a week, even if it was just having a couple of drinks with a friend. I had a fun life and I averaged a new girl probably every 2 weeks for a few years (broken up by a handful of not very serious relationships). So yes, when …	/r/seduction	30/12/21 01:53 PM