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“Women protecting women” is women appealing to men within a system built for and enforced by men to protect women. For example, the white feather movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:58 PM
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Feminists and Tradwives both want men to be a paycheck and a bodyguard feminists just lie about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:11 PM
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My parents are of the variety where Mom cares more and when I was growing up my Mom didn’t actually care if the thing was clean, she cared about the ritualistic act of cleaning. So maintenance was pointless, no matter how dirty or clean you kept the house she was going to have The Meltdown about having someone over.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 04:22 PM
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So did many many other people who were not your parents. Many of them did not have children themselves and still paid their taxes Yes that was wrong if we value bodily autonomy Ah, so it is just children and future citizens you object to supporting, but meanwhile you deeply support shoveling my money at corrupt politicians so they can murder people abroad for no reason. Don’t shove words in my mouth I don’t support that either Like your argument really is that if you think people should pay taxe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 01:32 PM
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And why is it only “cuckoldry” for single men to have to pay for other men’s kids, but not childless women or women with children or married men with children ? It is “cuckoldry” in those cases too, you’re forced to spend resources on other people’s progeny. It’s a rough analogue to be emotionally charged not exact 1:1. And why is it only “cuckoldry” for single men to have to pay for other men’s kids, but not childless women or women with children or married men with children ? Why aren’t they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 12:50 PM
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Gotcha. You don’t care about civilization or the society you live in. You want to live in some dumb John Gault “every man for himself” greed-is-the-only-virtue, selfish take take take hellscape Obviously I'm not him but if you're a single man paying taxes for single mothers and public schooling is just cuckoldry with extra steps but you're welcome to explain how paying for other men's kids isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 01:43 AM
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BMI is not a good metric, it asserts men and women have the same ideal body weight at a given size despite men naturally carrying more muscle mass, but they’re not gonna adjust for this because it would be super politically incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 09:17 PM
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Then gets upset when you suggest Grindr will give him that type of sexual attention he seems so desperate for. Telling men to “just be gay” should be a bannable offense if compulsory heterosexuality also is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:36 PM
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You think society is only parents? Is that what the definition of society said? Damn bro you got hands but when you’re done mugging Peter Pan’s shadow maybe you can engage with what was actually written?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:14 PM
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I know what a society is I’m asking you to define it as you’re using it because you’re clearly working off your own definition if you don’t include child-parent and student-teacher relations as part of it. It’s a cultural expectation that you tell children to value education above all else, lying to children that relationships will come naturally if they pursue their education is one of the most common lies told in order to reinforce that desired behavior. That’s part of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:03 PM
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What is “society” define it for me because I don’t really understand the definition you’re using if parents and educators don’t count and anime also doesn’t count. Like yeah I guess society doesn’t lie to men if society is such an abstract concept it doesn’t actually apply to anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:54 PM
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Ok are my Mom and Grandma not part of society? Are my teachers? Damn those little male children should have KNOWN all the talk of “they are little girls who will grow out of it” was just a bullshit appeasement strategy to keep them on the education treadmill. And if you DID fall for it don’t be upset, it was for the Greater Good (R)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:45 PM
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Look at those goalposts fly, “nobody lied to you” to “you should have known they were lying” nice debate I guess if we’ve already accepted society lies to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:36 PM
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Porn has not been proven to cause damage it is a Puritan belief larping as science and essentially impossible to test
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:20 PM
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Women depend on men still it’s just outsourced to the government
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 12:04 AM
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Ok so if a man crying is socially unacceptable why do we care less when a woman does it? And I seriously don’t think I’ve ever seen a mainstream media outlet assert that women as a group need to do better. It is always about setting expectations for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 09:35 PM
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Yes society as a whole engages in benevolent misogyny toward women that's what I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 08:46 PM
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It is not socially acceptable for men to open up about the same things as women, we have lower expectations of women being able to handle their problems but aren't supposed to say it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 08:35 PM
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The manosphere supports it because it’s in men’s best interest to date younger cuter girls. Just like how feminism is not interested in advancing men’s interests the manosphere does not give a shit about women’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:16 PM
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The idea men have to provide monetary support for women’s biological disadvantages forever if they want social equality is crazy man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:53 PM
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These my favorite threads on here atm because the women in them will just shamelessly argue from a position of “biological realism” as to why they’re entitled to be paid for and then go into other threads and wonder why men take radical positions based in the same logic. Like it’s just impossible to say “yes that’s shitty and unfair” lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:45 PM
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Deadbedroom heavily favors upvoting female posts though I haven’t looked at it in years
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:46 AM
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What you're asserting is a total non sequitur, men having the option to opt out of rights and responsibilities of a child before it's born does not logically lead to the conclusion that a mother can rob a father of his rights by refusing financial aid after the child is born.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:23 PM
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I don’t understand what you’re asking. You’d fill out a paper that says “I do not consent to be a father” and submit it during a certain timeframe of the pregnancy?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:07 PM
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The entire point of this discussion is that a father could choose to surrender or embrace both rights and obligations as a package deal
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:08 PM
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Equality of outcome is primarily a prog left position, look at how the gender wage gap is used as evidence of discrimination against women for proof. Women have unequal outcome in pay = evidence of discrimination.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:02 PM
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Feminism in its current state was being giga astroturfed in the 2010s, it was a “normal notion” to The Man only
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:34 AM
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You presented a false binary and I wanted to float a third option. walk away or accept The other option is to socialize women to change. But I wanted to know if you think that’s impossible because of women’s nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:20 PM
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Well can you admit that if we are rejecting arguments of gender essentialism in the name of equality, women setting an expectation of being paid for is morally wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:03 PM
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Do you believe it is inherent to women’s nature to abuse equality?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:35 PM
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Ok let’s put the dollar amount into labor. In my hypothetical world, Instead of paying for dates directly, the social custom is to split the bill, and then for men to do one hour of labor at the girl’s house after the date. Sex may or may not happen, usually you gotta clean her house 3 times. Then everyone tells you “what’s the big deal, it’s just an hour”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:29 PM
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Because a non trivial percent of women use splitting the bill as a shit test and accepting their offer=no 2nd date. And there are not enough women ok with it for refusing to pay as a point of principle to be viable, it’s like telling a gamer “just find a girl who likes competitive gaming”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:19 PM
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Great now you’re auto locked out of 80% of the dating pool because even the nicest woman you had a great time with will have this shitty attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 09:58 PM
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I don’t understand why men whine about this. Because expecting people to give you free shit is entitled shitty behavior and should be discouraged at a societal level it’s not that complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:39 PM
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This entire thread is just women rage baiting. “Biological realities for me, laws for thee”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:37 PM
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Reexamination has occurred and is occurring and the discussion has just turned into an endless loop of this has negative outcomes XYZ (birth rates, wages, relationship between sexes, etc) outcomes are irrelevant to principles such as freedom And personally while I fall more in camp 2 it’s clear that society is built on mechanisms that contradict those principles; even having tax write offs for married couples is a form of punishing people for not getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:03 PM
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We have hundreds of years of discussion on the “correct” system as the backbone of western civilization, polygamy is illegal in all 50 US states because not pairing up 1:1 is bad for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 10:42 AM
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Great so if we agree the government is neither the source or protector of human rights we can stop using the “but that’s illegal” argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 10:40 AM
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Human autonomy is not a right if we go to war I can be ambushed in the street thrown in a van and airdropped to the front lines
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:08 AM
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My and a lot of other men’s issue is there’s many elements of the social contract that need to be looked at if women aren’t going to pair up correctly. Like let’s say hypothetically it actually was 80% of women breeding with 20% of men. Should schools still be paid for with taxes, when only men are net tax payers and 80% are not benefitting?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:00 AM
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The part in Twilight where the werewolf boyfriend who can’t get with Bella has his werewolf instincts kick in to make him groom her daughter sends my sides into orbit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:56 PM
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Men are obsessed with casual sex because they get filtered in competitive
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 12:55 PM
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“I love my Husband, but I would never ever ever ever do something for him that makes me feel slightly bad”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 06:36 PM
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I was worried about a baby mixup, I heard those things happen all the time and I wanted some peace of mind
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:40 AM
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Women can choose not to work in coal mines and fight in wars because we don’t draft them and we make up special positions for them so they don’t have to do physical labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 12:22 AM
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His point is a woman being emotional will be supported in a way men aren't, crying serves no benefit to men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 12:49 AM
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if you're worried about being used for resources: DONT PAY FOR DATES! Losing strategy that auto filters you from dating 90% of women it’s better to just accept that women want a man who is some degree of meal ticket and treat them appropriately
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 10:35 PM
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You’re ignoring the wider point, to say “relationships in society are purely consent based on an individual basis” is to ignore that many of the costs of relationships are socialized to people who are NOT part of them. If 100 women all decided to have the child of a single man, is it reasonable to make the 99 unchosen men contribute to paying for it via taxes? Under our current system the costs of relationships are socialized to people who aren’t part of them, so the discussion does exist within…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 03:16 AM
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Great so you’ll remove the tax benefits from marriage and all forms of socialized childcare? Maybe even the laws related to dating and sex. Every woman I’ve talked to on here who claims to be “hyper individualist” is always willing to die on the hill that you’re not allowed to let children starve
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 10:30 PM
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That’s exactly the answer they are coming to but if you keep going from the male perspective you rapidly hit misogyny and it flies in the face of what we’re taught growing up which is why they’re seeking an alternate answer women are entitled to fair treatment from men I have to bring more to the table to make up for biological differences I have to be better than any woman I date why aren’t I entitled to fair treatment too? are women ACTUALLY entitled to fair treatment? Why should this be one-w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 01:25 PM
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Well why shouldn’t women ask men out 50/50 if men and women are equal? You start hitting double-think or misogyny really fucking fast when you try to engage with stuff like this honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 01:09 PM
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Do they? I thought RP generally says men have to approach. RP I think is more like if men and women are the same they should approach 50/50 men and women aren’t the same so you have to approach approaching requires bravery and therefore you are the better The last one is what people take issue with, but unless you appeal to biological realities (“of course men have to approach, they’re less valuable to reproduction”) there isn’t really a good refutation, and using the biological realities argume…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 12:36 PM
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Women are not economically independent, we have laws, jobs, hiring practices, and taxes funneling resources from men to women in order to foster their “independence”. The question men are asking now is why should this situation continue?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:07 AM
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I’m pretty sure statistically women as a group are tax beneficiaries while men are tax payers every time they’ve studied it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:04 PM
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It’s a psyop not a real thing. Constant attempt to push up the perceived age of pair bonding
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:41 AM
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Woah woah woah not that kind of natural selection I mean like natural selection with government regulation!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 05:49 PM
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Because they are a dime a dozen, and because getting pussy is something that animals do, I don't consider attractive felons getting pussy to be fucked up. Animals do it. You don’t actually hold this position otherwise you’d have to be OK with male on female violence
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 02:37 AM
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IMO it leads into a larger conversation about female and child welfare, right now women are enjoying a lot of privileges related to the workplace and child support
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 11:38 PM
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because otherwise men's violence reduces civilization to anarchy. Quote it directly thanks. We’re talking about disagreement with SPECIFIC laws not refusal to enforce any law at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:12 PM
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because otherwise men's violence reduces civilization to anarchy. Quote it directly because I see nothing of the sort.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:03 PM
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What’s the point of pretending you don’t understand how the law is enforced exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 02:56 PM
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All rights or lack thereof are derived from violence
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 12:51 PM
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Maybe I’m misunderstanding but you seem to be saying that a man finding a woman sexually attractive based on physical appearance is inherently disrespectful even though that has nothing to do with seeing her as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 06:11 PM
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Something being ignored and something being silenced are not the same thing, your “soul, voice, and agency” aren’t entitled to attention
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 05:12 PM
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Explain how me checking out a girl’s boobs means I think she’s ontologically inferior
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 04:27 PM
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The male gaze objectifies no matter what Then objectification as a concept is meaningless and I don’t care about the feminist perspective on the matter
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 03:13 PM
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It’s a debate sub people come to debate
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 02:53 PM
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They do, men feign interest in long term relationships to get sex (women bitch about this here basically every day)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:43 AM
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Most men are not content single and don’t respect the concept of covert contracts therefore they’ll just say whatever to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:54 PM
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https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10426866/ This is a really well documented thing
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:51 PM
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Tons and tons of women split dates, he can choose to go on a date with one of them Yeah just date one of the women who doesn’t care about height, splits money on dates, is really into video games and can turn water into wine too. Let’s all just price ourselves out of the dating pool trying to hold women to behavioral standards lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:44 PM
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Men agree and offer to pay because women don’t go on dates with you if you don’t, it’s a covert contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:38 PM
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This would be true if they split the bill only, if there is a covert contract that the man pays (almost always) then the woman used the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:27 PM
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Men should not only be wholly self sufficient but also bear their partners’ burdens as well, and also want women for reasons besides sex and see them as equal contributors because reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 05:04 PM
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So should we tell racial minorities to commit less crimes? Abusing Reddit rules to be safe edgy lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 01:17 AM
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It’s gotten drastically bigger dude incel rhetoric used to be limited to the chans because it didn’t effect most people, now a lot of the stuff is straight up on normal people social media and the only reason it didn’t really take over this site is active efforts to suppress it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 01:24 PM
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Everyone knows voting doesn’t do anything lol Which politician ran on another war with Iran? Or digital ID?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 09:39 PM
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Women resorting to variants of “might makes right” in an attempt to bait people into breaking Reddit rules by pointing out the obvious problem
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 02:16 AM
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It doesn’t say anything about trans porn compared to other types of porn, it says the most lucrative/popular trans porn stars, what states and countries watch trans porn the most, and the most popular trans porn search terms. Unless I missed something?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 10:20 AM
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I don’t really understand what your objection is, he’s saying women having equal rights is fair and you’re questioning the definition of fairness in response
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 09:52 AM
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So your post is about a concept you don’t have a definition for?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 09:42 AM
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Where is the “grey” here? I don’t disagree that men have to suck it up and pay but it absolutely is an abuse of men by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 07:26 PM
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They absolutely aren’t this is pop science.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 02:58 PM
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IMO the rise in conservative attitudes among men can at least partially be linked to the outcome based evidence of discrimination that liberals employ; the idea that all differences in outcomes between groups are a result of discrimination since everyone of all sexes, races, and ideological creeds have the same capabilities. This was for example used by feminists to push the wage gap and might still be. So when men have worse outcomes it must be a result of systematic discrimination too, but thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 02:05 PM
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Well shit I feel dumb now lol The way it's structured made me think one lead to the other
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 02:27 AM
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What he means is pre-fall. Guys have basically a time limit in their teens to early adulthood to receive sexual attention and if they don’t they self destruct in some way. If the brother was a girl he would have gotten the attention to make him think he was on the right path.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 08:40 PM
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Then go on dates and accept that some men will be shitty and use you for sex. Or don’t date at all. You do have options.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 07:36 PM
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We can’t all date unicorns my dudette.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 06:59 PM
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If a guy is genuinely worried about being used for money, there are easy solutions: suggest low-cost or free dates. Walk in a park. Walk on the beach. Coffee. Ice cream. Snacks. If spending money is optional, then so is the narrative that sex is required as reassurance You LITERALLY NOT EVEN 10 MINUTES AGO came from a thread filled with women saying they see this as cheap behavior and that men who won’t pay for dates are not going to get shit
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 05:23 PM
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OP obviously doesn’t think it’s ridiculous, the Holocaust trick prevents him from responding.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 01:07 PM
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I would but that would be annoying and stupid this is just the first one I saw scrolling. It’s not a good argument, it’s a cheap online trick abusing sitewide rules
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 12:59 PM
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What makes TRP different from Holocaust deniers which face resistance and censorship? Use an example that can actually be discussed on Reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 12:42 PM
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Oh. I thought your posts were serious my bad. I feel like this goes without saying but security in a relationship comes from feeling loved.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 05:53 PM
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Men feel loveD through sex the D is important. It’s true men can fuck women they don’t love, but that’s not really what it’s about. Vetting for girls who will have sex with you outside a relationship is to reduce the risk of being trapped in a sexless relationship with a vampire
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 05:38 PM
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In this life you're owed nothing I don’t like when people invoke entitlement arguments on Reddit, imo it’s just being “Redditsafe edgy” where you’re protected from the full ramifications of that assertion by sitewide rules
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:24 PM
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Great So in your opinion yes, it’s fine for men to have their resources stolen through taxation to fund other men’s children, and a society of state enforced cuckoldry is morally justified and sustainable
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 09:36 PM
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Ah yeah by “financial support for single mothers I clearly meant dating them. I’m not going to bother if you’re going to be this disingenuous, I’ve made my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 09:22 PM
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That’s not privileges for women, that would be punishing and starving children. Stop and think about this seriously ok. Do you think it’s good for society that 1 guy can have kids with 5 different women, and then 4 other guys have to subsidize his genes? And no, nobody is saying ban women and minorities from work. But there shouldn’t be preferential treatment and protections if we’re taking “nobody owes anyone anything” to its logical conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 06:46 PM
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I think if women don’t want to play ball they should have privileges revoked, not rights. No more parental leave structured around maternity, no more financial support for single mothers, same sentencing for the same crimes, cut down on fake bullshit jobs invented for them to do stuff, no more diversity hiring mandating X % women. just generally stop funneling money from men to women through the state.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 06:18 PM
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The noblest of hamsters is still a hamster
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 10:17 PM
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Your “point” is that people voted for Trump to stick it to women which is ridiculous. One side is advocating for infinite immigration and clowny gender politics, people voted for him because they don’t want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 09:48 PM
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How would I disagree with your point without proving it? Seems like you just hold your point to be a priori true
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:28 PM
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lol right “if you disagree with me you’re just part of the bepenis’d elite class” this is why people got sick of liberals
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:01 PM
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Oh you’re right I guess I glazed over it my bad. Regardless, Trump getting voted in has nothing to do with the gender issues but with people sick of having their opinions policed by moral busybodies and people wanting immigration down
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:31 PM
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???? wtf does Trump have to do with anything. You think people voted for Trump because…he promised to give men government mandated girlfriends and revoke the 19th amendment?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:57 PM
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Support for women is insanely institutionalized, if men removed support from women they’d probably starve lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:21 PM
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Sex is the original it just gets changed sometimes for political correctness because people don’t like to put “sex” and “need” together. The bottom row isn’t for stuff that’s a biological need, it’s for stuff that’s the number 1 priority; things average people have to do before they can properly pursue other avenues of self fulfillment. It’s just that obviously people have to pursue things to not die, and it’d be silly to make a whole new tier for sex when that’s the immediate next thing after n…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 08:01 PM
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Reproduction is at the bottom
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:21 PM
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I’m skeptical of obesity stats in general, the idea men and women have the same ideal weight/height ratio sets off my bullshit detector something fierce
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:01 PM
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I'm kinda confused what you're saying to him, men obviously can't rip the baby out of Mom's hands and take it to a safe haven to be absolved of parenthood regardless of what the mother thinks which is his point
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 03:42 AM
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Yeah I dunno OP people on this sub like to engage in selective amorality where nobody is owed anything since we live in an amoral world but also certain things are off limits for moral reasons. It gets silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 01:54 AM
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Ok I really don’t care if men lie about wanting a relationship to get pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 03:41 AM
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I guess my question is why would I adopt that framework when the rest of the discussion is “nobody is entitled to anything”? Like would you agree “it’s morally unfair that a serial killer has more sexual success than some quiet guy that likes model trains”?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 02:16 AM
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Is there something morally wrong with using relationships to get sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 12:12 AM
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Seems like a false dichotomy, the primary objection to abortion is that it’s perceived as murder, not that women are somehow cheating their way out of a punishment for having sex
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 02:38 PM
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I'm curious what point you think he's making because he's right. Women are overwhelmingly supported in society by men, it's just outsourced to the State
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 02:29 AM
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Damn guess we should just revoke women’s rights then.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:46 AM
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Yeah. Things are dire the younger you get and with online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 11:59 PM
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In most studies like this relationship status is self reported, so a woman in a situationship says she's in a relationship and the guy playing the field says he isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 11:51 PM
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I don’t see why I should accept a moral framework that’s not beneficial to me when the typical conversation is that nobody owes anyone anything so ex if your wife stops putting out after marriage too bad so sad marriage doesn’t entitle you to anything
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 12:54 AM
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I'm fine with that if they can't pay for them
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 09:59 PM
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HAHAHAHA the unpaid labor cope. How do you quantify that? What about the unpaid labor men do?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 07:41 PM
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No one said anyone is “entitled” to anything The argument that men need to provide something additional in order to match the value of pregnancy etc implicitly assumes women are entitled to the safety and stability men currently provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 02:26 AM
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There’s a reason specified middle class + socioeconomic environs. The entire concept of women providing meaningful labor for society is fake. This has been studied in several countries and it's been found that only men actually pay taxes as a group. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2375926 https://www.mm.dk/artikel/kvinder-er-en-underskudsforretning Even putting that aside, these kinds of arguments only work if you operate from the assumption that women are entitled to a safe …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 02:13 AM
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Yes there is? That is how life is. I don’t wanna work for 8 hours a day, I want a 18 year old wife with huge tits, I want super powers. Sometimes you have to accept reality it’s not reasonable to complain about shit nonstop
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 01:31 AM
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Protection via "value add" is provided continuously as the bedrock of modern society, the concept of the self-sufficient woman is largely an illusion created by governments redistributing wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 12:18 AM
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I don't think porn has ever actually been proven to cause harm, the methods you'd have to apply to test it are basically impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 10:19 PM
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They were probably just saying what they had to say
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 10:16 PM
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Regulation forces those jobs into existence. A lot of our society is structured to maximize the number of jobs a lot of them aren’t actually necessary
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 11:42 AM
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That already happened, black pill won the discussion most people on this board are black pillers larping
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 10:44 AM
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Yes it matters???? Wtf am I reading the entire point of having a kid is to carry on your genes if it's not mine I'm not raising it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 12:20 AM
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Every man who raises another man's kid unknowingly thought it was theirs lol I guess they didn't trust their wives enough
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 11:34 PM
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Why does if have to be feelings just do the fucking test and be done with it this is an issue that ONLY affects men anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 12:21 AM
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I guess my question is why is this treated as a completely separate thing that’s beyond any discussion? We want the job market to have men and women participating at roughly equal rates, so we give women a leg up because of biological reality of pregnancy. So if we can discuss this, why can’t we discuss “We want women to be pairing off instead of doing the 80/20 shit, are there solutions?” Without every PPD user suddenly turning into a hardline Libertarian (but only for this one specific issue)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 09:54 PM
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The job market is a free market with at-will employment until a woman gets pregnant. Then you have to pay her for doing nothing, and you can't discriminate against women in hiring practices for this either. So what I'm saying is, we already have """socialism""" for women. If we want to have la saiz faire policy for men let's have the same for women. No alimony, if a guy breaks up with you and you gave up your career that was YOUR choice. Your kid will starve without tax coverage? Not my problem.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 06:05 PM
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Yeah and taxes are also socialism right because it’s the same my earned money is stolen and redistributed to single mothers and their spawn
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:32 AM
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Ok we have survival socialism by letting women live in a society men built they can gtfo if all cooperation is going to be framed as "socialism"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 10:20 PM
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You wouldn't think that reading this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 07:34 PM
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I mean. Lying is broadly wrong No? Lying isn’t illegal so it’s ok. Isn’t that how our moral framework works around here?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 07:50 AM
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There is nothing wrong with lying to women for sex. You're not entitled to anything after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 01:48 AM
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Woaaaaah the World Economic forum published something fucking stupid woooow who could have anticipated this
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 03:19 PM
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So what’s your solution to guys who have exclusively solo hobbies but still want to have a partner. Some guys have no interest in male friends and just want a woman to have sex+family, there is no scenario where they join a hobby group for the hobby
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 11:22 PM
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Single-motherhood isn’t always the mother’s fault What do you mean just abort if you don’t want it 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:07 PM
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Some guys genuinely like flatties so it wouldn’t have been the same anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:01 PM
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My first GF I met in real life through a friend group broke up with me and immediately started shopping for a new one on Tinder, people who don’t think it influences dating are delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 02:42 PM
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If you can’t say what you want because your life will be ruined you don’t have freedom of speech
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 09:55 PM
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Why is this an “epic own” he would have the entire weight of the corpo-legal system destroying his life if he said it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 09:27 PM
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I don’t think it is unusual to have to order a fitted safety harness if you’re way outside the normal size for the job not really a gendered thing. As far as endometriosis I don’t know much about it But I can just give the typical feminists answer to male problems I guess “not my problem”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 02:58 PM
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I think there is way more effort and money put into researching women’s health problems than men’s like breast cancer is insanely well funded
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 02:45 PM
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You will never beat her ideas because she is obviously correct on this point lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 03:59 PM
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I want her to want me to touch her boobs though
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 07:22 PM
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Lol you guys act like people will just stop wanting to touch boobs because it’s hard
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 10:47 AM
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Umm, to not be a piece of shit and explicitly lie to women? You are not entitled to honesty :)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 05:39 PM
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Isn't it super well known that OkCupid's personality vs. looks scoring was found to just be a linear relationship i.e. hot guys were rated to have better personalities?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:33 AM
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Lol this entire thread is ridiculous. Just a long stream of "hold out for the perfect woman with literally zero mental issues and who shares all your interests" like guys are not fighting tooth and nail over this minority of a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:31 AM
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legitimate experts Have blown all their credibility in the past few decades and it’s become common knowledge you can buy studies to say what you want on some topics and on others if you come to the wrong conclusions you’ll have your funding pulled.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 12:41 PM
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Yes this sub is fucking boring now because everyone just argues from Reddit-safe nihilism perspective because it's easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 03:15 AM
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Cuz it's a necessity to form romantic relationships, most guys are just doing it instinctively and stop once it's not necessary. At least that's how it seems to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 09:08 PM
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No seriously. If you think "because evolution" is a real argument to be made in this kind of discussion then any incel should just become a rapist. It's extremely lazy argumentation that relies on the other person not pointing it out for politeness sake, but anyone in a dark place that reads this kind of argument is going to be pushed more and more to that line of thinking because you give them zero reason not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 07:02 PM
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In nature evolutionary disadvantaged males kill the dominant males or rape the females why do people invoke this as an argument? It’s so stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 03:26 PM
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He said "women are biologically attracted to larger males" and you vomited a wall of text about racism which you can't even really discuss on Reddit lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 09:41 PM
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Yeah yeah as usual “women are totes super good at something that can’t be quantified”. Women don’t have to marry nobody said they did, but they’re statistically financially dependent on men; the government just redistributes men’s wealth to women anyway when they won’t marry
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 02:06 PM
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The existence of independent women doesn’t change the per capita reality. I had to go find this study again as an example from New Zealand https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2375926 You can look at figures 16 and 17 for the gist of it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 01:32 PM
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Women are economically dependent on men, the few times they’ve done this study it’s been found that as a group only men are net taxpayers
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 01:14 PM
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What am I denying is happening? I just explained to you and provided counter examples in the form of anime style games that female protagonists in and of themselves are not considered "Woke". Altering female polygons in an active effort to make them less appealing to males Yes that's woke no matter how much you try to trivialize it as "unimportant" xD
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 05:42 PM
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How come in your first post you asserted that the issue was "the mere presence of someone not being white or male", but now you can recognize that the issue is related to appearance? People perceive the changes to their appearance as implicitly anti-male (to make them less appealing to the male gaze), therefore it falls under what people would call "Woke". Just having a female protag isn't what makes something woke (again see the many many anime games with female protags)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 05:03 PM
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No it doesn't otherwise guys wouldn't be watching/playing anime stuff with entirely female casts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 04:37 PM
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Woke is media that pushes progressive left ideology related to modern gender and race issues and is typically aligned against heterosexual white men. These qualities can be implicitly expressed or explicitly expressed. If you get a radically different definition from somebody it's because they're falseflagging.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 04:12 PM
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Gooner is just a meaningless buzzword and the backlash against Woke media is largely a result of it existing to serve as propaganda rather than as a result of market demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 01:58 PM
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Then your argument boils down to “once you’ve fulfilled your reproductive role you consent to parenthood” For men that’s shooting their load For women that’s birthing the baby But there is no real reason for that to be the case. Why can’t a man shoot his load and say “I won’t be the father no matter what”? Just because it’s inconvenient for men to be able to do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 04:30 AM
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Why is there like this baseline belief that the woman won’t be able to support the child by herself?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 04:26 AM
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men don’t give birth so they shouldn’t have a say in what women do with their bodies This is fair. "financial abortions" don't achieve equity, they just conflate the biological process of reproduction with paying money This is where I take issue. If women having sex is not consent to parenthood then it isn’t for men either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 04:23 AM
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It is. If you aren’t going to provide any moral framework for your argument and argue purely from the perspective of “might makes right” then forcing a miscarriage is the correct answer for any man that doesn’t want to have a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:24 AM
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The child did not ask to exist; the child was made to exist, helpless, by the child’s parents. Parent. Singular. Unless you want to resort to the pro life argument lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:10 AM
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He is right. Life’s not fair sweaty, play to win
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:08 AM
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Hahahaha tell that to the law. Guess what? If I punch my pregnant wife in the stomach until she miscarries I will be charged with murder, not assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:07 AM
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deserves to be financially supported by both parents. Why? Because you say so?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:05 AM
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Gobbledegook If the WOMAN has the final say on if the child is born then the WOMAN has responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:01 AM
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The decision for the child to be born is solely that of the woman atm, you’re nonsensically pushing it a step back which is exactly the 0.5x choice he refers to in OP
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:56 PM
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You hear men saying what they are allowed to say, which is what you want to hear. It’s not a universal rule but pretty much all guys want to date a hot young woman who doesn’t expect much of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 05:58 PM
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Financial autonomy IS bodily autonomy You exchange the labor of your body for resources. Forcing somebody to labor for something they don’t want is a violation of their bodily autonomy. Saying “it only counts if it’s this one specific biological process” is just special pleading. Bodily autonomy isn’t even a real right, I’m forced to sign a paper saying the government has the right to send me to die at any time in order to vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 05:48 PM
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Your point is only coherent if you accept your initial axiom (only bodily autonomy related to pregnancy has any value) Which is just a priori ruling out his viewpoint. Also your argument is exactly the same framework people against gay marriages used in the 90s which is goofy as fuck lol You have exactly the same rights as everyone else, you can marry somebody of the opposite gender
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 03:41 PM
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Someone is going to pay for the baby if it’s born. Yeah. The woman who wants it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 03:36 PM
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You should never go to therapy if you have real problems. It serves zero purpose but to put you on a watch list.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:25 AM
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Roe v Wade was a comical abuse of federal power in order to bypass state laws and change social mores by force
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 01:56 AM
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women shouldn’t be seen as a reward for you getting your shit together. You already accepted that framework when you responded to the question of how to get women with “self improvement”, which is itself vague as shit since not all forms of self improvement are going to improve your chances with women. It’s just empty words and platitudes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 01:49 AM
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This is just telling men to do self improvement and shut up regardless of if there’s results or not
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:54 PM
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Femcels aren't real so nobody cares
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 11:47 PM
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Why do you guys constantly adopt this amoral position where you all but say “don’t like it become a rapist” Stop making arguments from nature
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 03:53 PM
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https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2375926 https://www.mm.dk/artikel/kvinder-er-en-underskudsforretning Every time they've studied this they come away finding only men are net taxpayers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:33 PM
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woman realize they don’t have to actually marry because the system just steals men’s shit to give to women regardless Ftfy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 03:23 PM
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Jordan Peterson and Andrew tate might be the target of mockery and bashing but they appeal to real concerns in men Jordan Peterson and Andrew Tate are gatekeepers meant to keep men in the rate race. They preach the same message in different costumes If you work hard and make money for the system you can get women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 07:54 PM
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This is why I got kind of annoyed with this sub. Everyone is just perpetually arguing at a level of “nihilism but no rape”, it’s extremely lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 01:08 AM
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Why am I seeing media literacy spammed everywhere now lol And it’s not even used right, “if you disagree with me you had bad media literacy”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 10:54 PM
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Exclusive networking options, preferential treatment in hiring in many fields, and as a demographic receive more federal aid than they pay in taxes in most countries. There was a study on it in New Zealand years ago, and similar was found in another Denmark study I found trying to find that one. Of course this isn't something you're allowed to study in any depth without getting funding pulled so nobody does it now. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2375926 https://www.mm.dk/art…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 01:48 AM
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If you increase the supply of labor wages go down this is basic shit it doesn’t matter if they are illegal (not undocumented bleeding heart hippy) immigrants or legal. And since these countries they come from have a lower standard of living they are willing to do harder work for lesser pay, what I am colloquially referring to as “slave labor”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:39 PM
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women make their own money Isn't there a statistic that as a group women benefit more from social programs than they pay in taxes?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 03:45 AM
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Yeah why let people improve their lives when you can import competition accustomed to slave labor xD
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 03:40 AM
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Why does that matter Just have a judge declare all forms of discrimination illegal, it worked for abortion when every state had laws against it xD
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 03:39 AM
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Cut off women from all the extra economic support they get. Then it will no longer be a moral issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 08:34 PM
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They do, it's a number that is itself statistically significant to the point you could have a study on the women who message first.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 12:59 AM
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Feminism was forced at gunpoint on a federal level
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 04:01 PM
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If you are bottom of the totem pole and improve yourself to get a girl you’re not going to see her as “equal” it’s just a consequence of that path.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 12:55 AM
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The statistic that most accusations are not false is misunderstood, what it means is that in most trials there is not direct, absolute evidence that the woman is lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 01:21 AM
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People use alimony colloquially as a catch-all including child support and however assets get split.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 01:08 AM
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With the way dating is now to me it just seems like if your relationship route goes a path different from acquaintance>casual sex>relationship there is a lot higher chance of you being used because it means you're not hitting her baseline attractiveness threshold.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 10:19 PM
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The problem with the current “sexual market” is that even if I don’t impregnate the woman my money gets stolen to fund her spawn.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 09:50 AM
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Yes If you're not responsible for my sexual satisfaction I'm not responsible for your spawn, hyper individualism swings both ways
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:49 AM
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No Women's existence is propped up by the state through taxation and social services
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:48 AM
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Again, the boring/unattractive should improve If we are being real you should become a serial abuser. That's where all this "uhhhh sexuality is amoral sweatie" dialogue leads.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 12:44 AM
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All women are gold diggers we just don't call it that until the difference in income is big enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 01:54 AM
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There is nothing wrong with wanting a provider if that's what you're genuinely attracted to, nobody wants to be a sexless meal ticket though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 12:42 AM
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https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/fair
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:07 PM
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You said wearing a chastity belt (controlling men's sexuality) is the equivalent of a paternity test. If (controlling men's sexuality) is the equivalent of paternity test, then paternity test must=(controlling women's sexuality) yeah?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 09:16 PM
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Everyone who has their trust betrayed trusted the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 01:59 AM
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Lol at comparing being prevented from engaging in paternity fraud to controlling women’s sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 01:56 AM
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Social media allows people to have exact numbers on how unwanted they are. But note that social media isn't the CAUSE it just made people aware they're alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 01:40 AM
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The more I read this sub it is basically like everyone has become blackpilled and is talking around the sitewide rules to say what everyone has realized but can't be said.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:01 AM
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I don't think you can be "purple pilled" I think this is a place where people argue the two positions. As for the culture I feel like the black pill won the culture war pretty thoroughly and everyone here is just some degree of red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 02:40 PM
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You are not entitled to a paycheck Just do the work and maybe if you are a good person your boss will pay you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 12:15 AM
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How is that remotely appealing to be loved only for the resources you can provide? It's literally just prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 06:02 PM
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I don't feel like women being too tall actually makes them unattractive it's just pointless to pursue a woman taller than you because the chance of her liking you a lot is too low.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:31 AM
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1) Therapy is a massive meme 2) It's completely normal to form behaviors out of repeated patterns of results
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 11:38 PM
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Women are still dependent on men, they are as a group subsidized by the feds
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 11:36 PM
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Become a malcontent (steal etc, I'm not advocating for this but you asked what the alternatives are), leech off parents, work part time doing the bare minimum. Why would you care if it's sustainable in the long term? There is no future for most guys outside wage slaving, just go until you can't anymore and then do whatever you want, you owe nobody anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 08:03 PM
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Work will set you free Read it immediately you can recognize it's a trick, the vast majority of businesses fail
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 07:42 PM
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Andrew Tate is a pied piper trying to get guys back into the workforce just like Jordan Peterson. He's part of the system imitating the opposition but trying to redirect it into something useful for itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 06:41 PM
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This lol The 6'0 stat that girls actually make use of on dating apps automatically reduces the number to 15% or less alone
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 06:12 PM
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Sweaty we're not in a recession we changed the definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 06:49 AM
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No they didn't lol It was banned because black pill is winning the culture war, and that's also why this sub is going to shit. The conversation can't advance anymore because the path it naturally leads has been blocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 01:18 AM
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Survival of the fittest but not really Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 09:38 PM
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Bro you don’t get to invoke “survival of the fittest” and only go halfway. The moment you invoke it you’re revoking the entirety of civil rights
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 08:34 PM
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What is “proud” about it it’s just a fact. In an ideal world women would willingly pair off instead of forming soft harems and then weaponizing the federal government to steal resources from men outside the harem but the latter becomes more and more true every day and violence begets violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 12:29 PM
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You can complain, but if you want pure "survival of the fittest" a woman doesn't have to choose me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:00 AM
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If a man can get a date from a woman, he can get a hookup from the same woman if she's open to casual sex. In an ideal world that would be true but it's not, some women demand a certain level of "use" to have sex if you don't meet a certain attractiveness threshold.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 05:18 AM
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As long as you are consistent nobody cares, the problem arises when you break your own rules for one dude (because he’s super hot) and then try to be serious with someone not hot enough to break the rules after
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 04:00 AM
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Not all men can get hookups, men don’t want to be in a relationship with a girl who does hookups but wouldn’t hookup with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 03:56 AM
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Everyone on this board is just some degree of red pill now, blue pill “work on your personality” has been laughed out of the public square despite media backing. Literally the only difference is just whether you use the special code language or not
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:12 PM
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Sorry but most algorithms are modified to show you what THEY want you to see, not what you want to see. For example type “Happy White Woman” into Google images and you’ll be inundated with images of happy black male+whites female couples. I’m not going to take them at their word that the algorithm works as described, red pill and (redacted) communities have to be moderated off of the internet repeatedly for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:27 PM
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I identify as 6'2
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 09:47 PM
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US women are becoming their own beta bux The federal government is serving as BB for women collectively
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 05:01 PM
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The lack of gender differentials makes me think BMI is bullshit, when you go by fat % there is a difference because obviously a healthy woman has more fat than a same size man, so why would the reverse not be applied for a measurement of density?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 08:27 PM
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I don’t need a woman to own a home, woman is for sexual excitement
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 03:17 PM
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Women don't have burning desire Gaslighting lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 10:57 PM
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I don’t think the problem is the dudes participating it’s how many women given the opportunity actively seek it out. It makes marriage feel like scraps instead of the goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 01:25 PM
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I don’t see objectification as money, men basically want to be loved in the way a trophy wife is loved, just looks and sex. We want to be able to walk into a room of women and have them instantly want our babies no questions asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 08:36 AM
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I think a lot of men want to be objectified because it means you are loved independent of material things you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 12:54 AM
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No they are saying the only way to get true equality is if men and women invest the same amount, but women happen to invest nothing and nobody expects them to do more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 06:50 PM
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Isn’t it commonly understood in these kinds of conversations prostitution doesn’t count? Otherwise anyone can “have sex” as long as they’re willing to break the law or not depending on area.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 06:24 PM
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This is the absolute truth people don’t want to admit and why it is forbidden to talk about too much here lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 06:16 PM
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It can’t get through our government because the people don’t want it. Americans aren’t Europeans.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 07:51 PM
2

I am not religious but I can’t mental pretzel my way into seeing it as not murder. If I go around punching pregnant women as hard as I can to force abort it’s considered murder, not assault. The fetus is alive and will become a baby if natural process isn’t interfered with, and the fetus/baby division is extremely arbitrary compared to the fertilized/unfertilized one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 07:48 PM
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Ugly. I don’t care about any of the dumb copes about personality or whatever I’m just gross to look at in a way that can’t be fixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:54 PM
6

Not many men get to do that and especially not marry into that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:50 PM
1

This interpretation is more of a parody of the concept, the “Chad vs Virgin” was originally used as a joke where the “virgin” was doing normal things everyone does and “Chad” was absurdist humor.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:03 PM
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Because 80% of men won't agree to cooperate if they believe it doesn't improve their chances of reproduction, society is built on that premise; everyone cooperates and if you do you get to have kids who will cooperate too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 04:40 PM
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What is factually true and what our bodies think don't line up with modern technology. Women aren't gonna die in childbirth nowadays from having too narrow of hips but men sure as hell like them wide still.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 11:38 PM
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The "investment" from a biological perspective is the risk of getting pregnant, not whatever you seem to think it is. Risking getting pregnant with less investment from the man means you've invested more into him (again purely parental opportunity cost here).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 06:36 PM
1

That's a man, baby!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 09:47 PM
4

How much time, effort, and money is a man allowed to spend on looking good? We are socially conditioned to believe that any attempts to mask our genetics are unmanly and shamed for it. For example, I'd be more attractive if I wore lifts in my shoes to be talller just like you can be more attractive if you wear makeup to appear younger. But which of us would be shamed for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 03:21 PM
1

My experience here is that most people aren't nearly as smart as they think they are and think an argument's length is directly proportional to its merit. Purple pill and purple prose
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 06:01 PM
1

Black pillers don't put a moral judgement on being a Chad, it's treated as a thing you are rather than a thing you can become.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 01:51 PM
1

1) Do what I tell you or you're fired and will lose access to money and food you need to survive 2) Have sex with me or I'm done with this non-essential but mutually beneficial partnership Which is coercion?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 03:31 PM
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No, it's more like "what's healthier, accepting things you can't change or agonizing over them?" It's not an ideology like you're thinking, it's a shared world view formed from years of experience. When you say being an incel is "wrong" you are telling them "You can change! You can be attractive!". It's not helpful to actual ugly people to lie like that, it's ok to be scared of death and it's ok to be bitter about being ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 01:59 PM
2

That stuff already exists, nobody wants it because such spaces inherently are based around the idea that incel "ideology" is incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 06:04 PM
1

He means stay at home mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 12:35 PM
2

How big is the population of women that actually pursues though? Even if X percent of women that send messages do send messages to the bottom Y percent the frequency of women sending the first message is so low that that would almost need to be looked at as a separate group.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 05:11 PM
12

ER was a whackjob and it's intellectually dishonest to be trying to use him as an example of incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 05:09 PM
1

But actual incels self identify as incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 05:38 AM
1

I don't think anybody actually thinks sex robots will provide any validation, just that not having to pay every time you use it makes it less dehumanizing than a hooker if it feels good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 05:37 AM
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It does in the context of a discussion on how much you can improve your SMV/RMV. Like I could tell you "my appearance is dictated by the color of clothes I'm wearing, my brand of shoes, my choice of tie, and my height" but height is really the only one that's very meaningful.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 07:16 PM
1

Raw number of attributes in each category doesn’t mean as much as how they’re weighted in value.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 11:38 PM
12

Agreeing with this guy, recognizing that people on average don't want to talk to you is also a learned social skill.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/18 08:24 AM
3

Sorry where is this conversation even going? I thought we were starting from the perspective that "anyone can break into the top 20% and get unlimited pussy", now it's "anyone can get a wife".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 01:03 AM
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I don't disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 01:02 AM
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That doesn't change that you can't break into the top 20% and get that "unlimited pussy".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 06:24 PM
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Somebody who's reasonable and realizes you can't just improve yourself to the top 20%. A lot of your attractiveness is tied to things you can't control like your height, face shape, and beard genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 03:22 PM
1

It's purple pill debate not purple prose debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 12:51 AM
1

Lol maybe not that bad but you see plenty of MGTOW and incels talking about just working part time to make enough to get by, I think it's a valid concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 10:28 PM
3

Because they had sex to make them believe it was worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 10:39 AM
1

Did all the girls bang the same 10 dudes Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 07:17 AM
3

If you wouldn't live in a dumpster with your SO you don't love him, that's literally how we feel. Note that I'm not saying you should love a man who chooses to live in a dumpster, what's being said is that if a man falls on hard times and ends up in the dumpster through no fault of his own would you be there for him?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 06:54 AM
1

Outlaw abortion then.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 08:26 AM
1

Lol yeah good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 08:16 AM
1

I don't think anyone would seriously argue that some peoples' bodies defy thermodynamics, I think there is a very real argument to be made that some people's brains are wired very differently as far as pumping hormones into them to drive them to eat.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 07:57 AM
2

Because why would we care? The age of marriage+kids keeps going up so there's no reason for us to move out, but I'd bet it's not just marriage but all those other little milestones as well. There isn't that little carrot anymore, guys go on Tinder and see girls have an instinct to get kids from guys 6ft tall with good looking faces, not average guys with great careers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 07:38 AM
2

Reminder incel ideology will always thrive in an environment of free speech :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 04:26 PM
2

"When the world turns its back on you you turn your back on the world"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 04:13 PM
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100% agree, they need to use metrics like "X times per week". In most of these studies a relationship where the woman has a perpetual headache but puts out once a year on Christmas is sexually active.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 11:17 PM
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Yeah this is the answer. Investing heavily in women is no longer the responsible normal thing, it just makes you a loser that had to wait and pay for what others got for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 11:40 PM
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Incels got banned because it was popular, talk of violence on incels was talked about on an abstract and consequential societal level, not in the form of encouraging violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 06:42 PM
3

This is like asking a guy on 4chan who identifies as a Wizard why he doesn't just magic himself up a girlfriend, that's not the actual meaning of the word in this context.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 08:00 PM
3

The "rape is about power" thing is obviously bullshit propaganda. Rape is an ancient evolutionary strategy that's survived thousands of years across a ton of species, it did not disappear and then re-appear in the same species (humans) but with a different purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/18 04:28 AM
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Rape is about sex, the idea that rape evolved as a sexual strategy in the animal kingdom including many of our closest primate relatives, was somehow lost in humans, and then reacquired as a form of neuroticism is laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 12:05 AM
2

It doesn't matter if men lift or not, they're gonna have more and denser muscle and thus weigh more than an equal height woman in all but the most extreme cases of soyboys. BMI is pretty blatantly biased against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 04:20 PM
2

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the stats but I think women have a higher allowed body fat percentage but most of these stats for measuring nationwide obesity use BMI, which puts men at a disadvantage since men have naturally denser bodies and BMI is just a height/weight ratio.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 04:17 PM
2

Hell I'd wager most men do not have the ability to have instant sex with their own wives and girlfriends as much as they'd want.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 07:55 AM
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Chad would use the same sexual strategy as "nice guys" if he wasn't Chad. You can bitch about "nice guys" sexual strategy all you want but if they do the same thing as Chad it will not work, so in my mind they're the same and it's unfair to moralize sexual strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 06:06 AM
2

It's impossible to prove a universal negative, the onus is on the one making the positive claim (AWALT). And no, rephrasing NAWALT to try to make it sound like a positive claim does not make it so. It's not meant to be taken literally, in the context of red pill it's a protective thought process meant to push guys toward abundance mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 01:38 PM
1

Just say hey I got snipped Then your sexual relationship is over if she wants kids in the future. It's scummy but some dudes are gonna lie about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 12:14 PM
1

This but unironically, gender war isn't really feasible because there's reproductive incentives to side with the opposition.(See: male feminist activists). But if it came down to an actual outright war women would have zero chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 12:21 AM
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It doesn't have to be to his face, even if she just turns to her friends after he leaves and "oh my god that guy was so creepy" it can do damage to his reputation. I don't think I've ever seen somebody called a creep to their face at all, it's always to a group of friends when the guy leaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 02:10 AM
5

Well apparently they can read minds and identify danger from a mere look across the bar so force choking isn't too ridiculous by comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 12:33 AM
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Men's problem with the cock carousel doesn't have anything to do with women discovering their sexuality, it has to do with the relative effort we put into and value of what we're getting from a relationship. You talk about needing to discover yourself but a lot of us less than stellar guys get left completely in the cold while we wait for you to do so and then are expected to bring a bunch of shit to the table nobody else had to once it's time for a real relationship. What are you expecting to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 05:05 AM
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No, don't use online dating. I'm not a very sociable person.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 01:16 AM
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Not if it harms women, remember it's a sea of dick fighting for a pond of vaginas. It would be like making a "dudes drink free" night at the bar, sure you'd get a lot of extra dudes in your bar but they're all drinking for free whereas if you do "ladies drink free" you get slightly more women drinking for free in exchange for a bunch of extra dudes coming around spending money looking to get lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 09:12 PM
2

I'm not being defensive I'm just annoyed at this overwhelming tendency everywhere for people to write large, emotionally charged opinions on debate forums with no backing. What can I argue against? It's a massive several paragraph rant about immaturity in men and women based on his own vaguely defined standards and doesn't address any of the potential reasons behind what he perceives as immaturity. The post is just too all encompassing and not useful as a result.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 03:50 AM
2

Proofs? Source? Anything but "fuck da young ones and fuck this newfangled computations wizardry?"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 03:39 AM
8

So what, we just post a giant wall of old fuddy duddy "back in muh day" garbage, say it's the reason for sexual dysfunction in modern society (with no quantifying factors btw), and then claim that this is red pilled?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 02:28 AM
5

Every online debate forum is filled with pseudo nihilists, it's by far the easiest position to defend and people are more interested in "winning" the argument than arguing a coherent position they actually hold.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 05:42 AM
0

The mockery comes from the "how can I do this without losing fat" attitude. You can not be fat and you can find guides everywhere on how to lose weight. Even if it's not valid or doesn't work there's nowhere besides red pill/pua teaching men the steps to have casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 10:13 PM
1

Literally google it, average age of virginity loss is 17 which is still high school and only 14% of people 20-24 are virgins. That means yes, most people get action in late high school early college and that doesn't even include first kisses, dances, and other fooling around which most incels also do not get.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 05:11 PM
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Most black pilled incels did the same "nothing" that their peers did growing up. I fell into a deep depression my freshman year of college and put on 50 lbs because I'd been a straight A student in high school and a varsity athlete for 4 years but had nothing to show for it; I didn't get invited to parties, my friends saw me as a friend but I was kept at a distance, and I certainly didn't see any action. But you will call it "pre conceived notions" even if it's built on years of personal experie…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 09:02 AM
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