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Women are better drivers than men and don't take unnecessary risks. Iirc women get in more accidents per mile driven but men drive more miles total annually. Men get into more fatal accidents but I don’t know if that’s per mile driven or total.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 12:32 PM
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I was trying to make a comparison as to what men pressuring women in the same way women pressure men might look like; being iced out of the dating scene because you have totally reasonable boundaries for the first date. You might not wanna make out and get groped right away just like a man might not wanna go on and pay for your expensive dinner date right away. But it’s phrased awkwardly I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 01:34 AM
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I know I’m not him but I wanna chime in here. Imagine if 80-90% of men expected that, no matter what, you’d make out in their car while he gropes your breasts at the end of the first date. So you meet a guy, and he seems like a gentleman, but you’re not comfortable making out with him yet and wanna go on another date before you commit to that. When you get out of his car on the way home he suddenly starts acting cold; he wanted to make out and you’re denying him that. But he’s a shitty guy; he d…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 11:34 PM
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Newsflash we use violence to curtail men’s behavior toward women too, all rules are based on violence otherwise there’s no enforcement mechanism. Or you think when you don’t pay your taxes the government sends a guy to argue with you about how taxes are moral and necessary 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 10:02 PM
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either pay or don’t Or we can discuss it and move the needle to where shaming and ostracizing women for the behavior is normal I am ok with coercion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 08:31 PM
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We have changed many social mores disfavorable to women by discussing them, nothing wrong with doing it for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 08:15 PM
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pay for a couple dates Ah damn it was TWO off by one. And you’re exaggerating to the extreme, it is not unreasonable for men to want women to contribute to the house and have a sexual relationship. It is unreasonable if he expects her to drop everything and fuck NOW. But this is not the norm and it’s whataboutism anyway. Also I never called women who demand money prostitutes, I questioned if you think men with a “natural provider attitude” enjoy paying for escorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 03:18 PM
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You’ve warped the concept of entitlement to the point wanting anything out of a relationship at all is wrong. You should be able to see why demanding money is not the same as wanting an attractive partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 08:40 AM
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I am never going to see any preferences of this type on the same level as you owe me money for my company
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 03:06 AM
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“A woman” who feels owed meals on men’s dime is entitled and selfish, if most women feel that way then so be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:45 AM
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That wasn’t the question. It was “what value do men provide to women” and the answer was “a functioning society”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:28 AM
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Discussing the morality of demanding free meals is not bigotry.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:19 AM
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If every woman stopped going to work tomorrow men would pick up the slack, if men stopped going to work tomorrow everything would break basically instantly
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:12 AM
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Right if a guy doesn’t wanna pay for you it’s because he’s morally defective/damaged, only bitter people don’t buy women things. Accept your place moid. This is just a thought terminating cliche, “questioning this norm is evidence of lacking moral character”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 12:46 AM
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Damn you want a finite number greater than 3??? A few usually means 3. My initial assumption was you’re selecting for a guy with the personality traits that would make him happy to pay indefinitely without questioning it or expecting anything in return beyond your company but you took issue with that too maybe we can play higher/lower?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 11:44 PM
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Aaaah you’re entitled to a mere 3 free meals like a genie it’s not entitlement if there’s a finite number
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:43 PM
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Yeah man anyone who takes issue with “pay for all our outings or I’m leaving you” is just being petty. God imagine if your friends behaved like women in dating, you’d invite them out on a trip and they’d look at you like hey man, aren’t you paying for the hotel and all the meals? You invited me…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:33 PM
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And based on observations, terms like beta simp, cuck, Chad are thrown around a lot more by men. Lol Yeah that was the point of the post, being a provider is increasingly seen as a bad thing. Men are free to want youth, beauty, or traditional femininity. Women are equally free to want generosity or a provider mindset. So we’re back to “let them eat cake”. These things aren’t the same, men wanting youth and beauty are not taking something tangible from you. Also on this whole “provider mindset” t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:00 PM
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There are men who prefer that and they’ll find their way to each other. Have you been paying attention to the discourse around this? There is an increasingly negative view of being a provider growing among men, terms like “beta simp/cuck” and “Chad” are wholly in the mainstream. Men start asking questions hey how come I gotta invest so much more than that guy if we’re equal why do I have to sacrifice for you on the CHANCE you invest in me? And women are just going “fuck you I do what I want I go…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:10 PM
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If I pay for your dinner it is in fact free for you
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 02:42 PM
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I’m genuinely not understanding what you disagree with. You said men can just not date women who expect to be paid for. I pointed out that largely this means you don’t date at all, and you agreed that I can’t have that expectation if I want to date. But then when I say women are never going to willingly give up wanting free shit, you suddenly disagree, even though you clearly think demanding a provider relationship is totally justified. What is the actual argument we’re even having?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 12:05 PM
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So you agree with me yeah? Trying to socialize women to see men as equal to them is hopeless, as a group they’ll always feel entitled to be paid for and they see nothing wrong with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 11:47 AM
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“Let them eat cake” right lol? Trying to hold women to standards means you don’t date at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 09:48 AM
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Conversations with women here have lead me to believe it’s impossible to socialize women not to feel entitled to being paid for in dating, it’s also unnecessary though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 09:34 AM
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Being able to obtain something is not the arbiter of morality, men have just accepted that women feel entitled to be paid for lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 10:38 PM
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What you are telling me in this thread is you go on all dates with an attitude of suspicious hostility in which you see the man as paying to appeal to you like a Queen and any who fail to do so did so maliciously and deserve to be punished. You’re not sweet.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 02:54 PM
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“I intentionally did something to make a man angry and now he is angry how could this be happening to me”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 02:40 PM
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Aaaaah so it’s not about men feeling entitled to sex for paying, it’s that you feel entitled to men’s money no matter what and other women having a moral compass threatens that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 02:35 PM
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Yes? If you liked him and like to be courted let him pay and express sexual interest and interest in future dates, or if you don’t like him pay for yourself so he doesn’t feel used. That’s how the game is played?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 02:23 PM
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So what is the unreasonable ask here of just paying for yourself if you don’t want to advance a romantic relationship? I have to work, I have to pay bills and taxes. This is a nice chunk of money you’re taking in a shitty economy just because.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 02:17 PM
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Men don’t need sex on the first date unless they’re sleazeballs but they need to feel like you’re sexually interested. If you’re not sexually interested but accept the benefits of “courtship” anyway you’re being shitty
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 02:07 PM
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Why not? What do you want from men when you’re going on a date and what are you offering?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:55 PM
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If you’re not interested in sex then just go out for a nice dinner with one of your gal pals and also refuse to be her friend if she doesn’t pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:53 PM
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This is one of the subs with probably the highest % of liberal leaning women and even here I see many many many comments from women saying even if a date otherwise goes well, if the man doesn’t pay he’s automatically disqualified as a suitor. Yes, men want dates to eventually lead to sex and paying your share is a good way to communicate “I saw this as a friendly outing where we both pay and am not sexually interested”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:40 PM
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I don’t understand what we’re debating. Women forcing men to pay when they have no sexual interest is an abuse of the dating system it doesn’t mean men are entitled to womens’ body’s for paying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:25 PM
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Stop pretending the “rule” they made that a woman is a tease or a gold-digger if she takes the money on offer and doesn’t give her time or body matters in any way Men don’t offer money because we want to we do it because we have to. I would like nothing more than to be allowed to show up to a date, have us both pay with no qualms, and have it not hurt my dating chances but it simply doesn’t work that way. What are you even complaining for? Men calling you shitty for your behavior doesn’t impact …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:19 PM
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“Women protecting women” is women appealing to men within a system built for and enforced by men to protect women. For example, the white feather movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:58 PM
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Feminists and Tradwives both want men to be a paycheck and a bodyguard feminists just lie about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:11 PM
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Bodily autonomy is not a legal concept it’s a moral one. You don’t charge someone for violating bodily autonomy you charge them for whatever the crime is. I’m really confused there’s no “legal framework” for bodily autonomy it’s a concept
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:38 PM
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You are making a distinction that does not exist, if you got pregnant and I decided on the spot to fire you unless you agreed to get an abortion it would be coercion. It does not matter that it’s also gender discrimination, it still violates your bodily autonomy
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 04:39 PM
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My parents are of the variety where Mom cares more and when I was growing up my Mom didn’t actually care if the thing was clean, she cared about the ritualistic act of cleaning. So maintenance was pointless, no matter how dirty or clean you kept the house she was going to have The Meltdown about having someone over.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 04:22 PM
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How exactly would it NOT violate bodily autonomy to give my employee an ultimatum of “get an abortion or you’re fired”?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 04:10 PM
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You are missing my and OP’s point. “Bodily autonomy” is not real in the context of society, we force people to do shit they don’t want to all the time on the justification of “because it’s better for society”. It is not sacrosanct like women tend to act like it is in these discussions. This does not mean I’m advocating for government mandated GFs or rape, it means I don’t care if a proposed law or concept is somehow unfair on a moral level if it has a good outcome because you don’t either.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 03:28 PM
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Conditions for participation: vaccines, masks, workplace safety rules. Nobody is claiming ownership over your body; they're saying participation comes with conditions. That is coercion you are threatening someone’s livelihood unless they submit to your demands. Can’t wait to run my workplace with the rule of “you can’t be pregnant” and say it’s not a violation of bodily autonomy because “I’m not making you get an abortion it’s just a condition of employment you can’t be pregnant”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 03:21 PM
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So did many many other people who were not your parents. Many of them did not have children themselves and still paid their taxes Yes that was wrong if we value bodily autonomy Ah, so it is just children and future citizens you object to supporting, but meanwhile you deeply support shoveling my money at corrupt politicians so they can murder people abroad for no reason. Don’t shove words in my mouth I don’t support that either Like your argument really is that if you think people should pay taxe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 01:32 PM
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And why is it only “cuckoldry” for single men to have to pay for other men’s kids, but not childless women or women with children or married men with children ? It is “cuckoldry” in those cases too, you’re forced to spend resources on other people’s progeny. It’s a rough analogue to be emotionally charged not exact 1:1. And why is it only “cuckoldry” for single men to have to pay for other men’s kids, but not childless women or women with children or married men with children ? Why aren’t they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 12:50 PM
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Gotcha. You don’t care about civilization or the society you live in. You want to live in some dumb John Gault “every man for himself” greed-is-the-only-virtue, selfish take take take hellscape Obviously I'm not him but if you're a single man paying taxes for single mothers and public schooling is just cuckoldry with extra steps but you're welcome to explain how paying for other men's kids isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 01:43 AM
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BMI is not a good metric, it asserts men and women have the same ideal body weight at a given size despite men naturally carrying more muscle mass, but they’re not gonna adjust for this because it would be super politically incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 09:17 PM
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Then gets upset when you suggest Grindr will give him that type of sexual attention he seems so desperate for. Telling men to “just be gay” should be a bannable offense if compulsory heterosexuality also is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:36 PM
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What boys are taught is that what is attractive to girls will change; “the things they like now are a temporary puberty defect, they like something different when it counts later in life” And I mean if you wanna make a separate thread “men are dumb for believing that bullcrap” fine but to say society doesn’t say it is dishonest. Also 13-15 year old kids don’t really hang out with 20+ year old girls to vet the truth of that statement
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 09:38 PM
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You want proof that society tells young men that once women are older they come to value career and stability
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:54 PM
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The social expectation in the society we live in is for authority figures to tell male children that women will choose them in the future if they focus on their education. If you want to victim blame and say “you shouldn’t have believed the lies” then do what you want, but the lies exist and are mainstream regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:32 PM
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A society is a group of individuals involved in persistent social interaction or a large social group sharing the same spatial or social territory , typically subject to the same political authority and dominant cultural expectations. Societies are characterized by patterns of relationships ( social relations ) between individuals who share a distinctive culture and institutions ; a given society may be described as the sum total of such relationships among its constituent members. I never said …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:26 PM
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You think society is only parents? Is that what the definition of society said? Damn bro you got hands but when you’re done mugging Peter Pan’s shadow maybe you can engage with what was actually written?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:14 PM
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I know what a society is I’m asking you to define it as you’re using it because you’re clearly working off your own definition if you don’t include child-parent and student-teacher relations as part of it. It’s a cultural expectation that you tell children to value education above all else, lying to children that relationships will come naturally if they pursue their education is one of the most common lies told in order to reinforce that desired behavior. That’s part of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:03 PM
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What is “society” define it for me because I don’t really understand the definition you’re using if parents and educators don’t count and anime also doesn’t count. Like yeah I guess society doesn’t lie to men if society is such an abstract concept it doesn’t actually apply to anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:54 PM
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Ok are my Mom and Grandma not part of society? Are my teachers? Damn those little male children should have KNOWN all the talk of “they are little girls who will grow out of it” was just a bullshit appeasement strategy to keep them on the education treadmill. And if you DID fall for it don’t be upset, it was for the Greater Good (R)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:45 PM
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Look at those goalposts fly, “nobody lied to you” to “you should have known they were lying” nice debate I guess if we’ve already accepted society lies to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:36 PM
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Porn has not been proven to cause damage it is a Puritan belief larping as science and essentially impossible to test
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:20 PM
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Women depend on men still it’s just outsourced to the government
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 12:04 AM
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Ok so if a man crying is socially unacceptable why do we care less when a woman does it? And I seriously don’t think I’ve ever seen a mainstream media outlet assert that women as a group need to do better. It is always about setting expectations for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 09:35 PM
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Yes society as a whole engages in benevolent misogyny toward women that's what I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 08:46 PM
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It is not socially acceptable for men to open up about the same things as women, we have lower expectations of women being able to handle their problems but aren't supposed to say it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 08:35 PM
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The manosphere supports it because it’s in men’s best interest to date younger cuter girls. Just like how feminism is not interested in advancing men’s interests the manosphere does not give a shit about women’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:16 PM
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The idea men have to provide monetary support for women’s biological disadvantages forever if they want social equality is crazy man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:53 PM
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These my favorite threads on here atm because the women in them will just shamelessly argue from a position of “biological realism” as to why they’re entitled to be paid for and then go into other threads and wonder why men take radical positions based in the same logic. Like it’s just impossible to say “yes that’s shitty and unfair” lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:45 PM
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Deadbedroom heavily favors upvoting female posts though I haven’t looked at it in years
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:46 AM
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What you're asserting is a total non sequitur, men having the option to opt out of rights and responsibilities of a child before it's born does not logically lead to the conclusion that a mother can rob a father of his rights by refusing financial aid after the child is born.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:23 PM
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I don’t understand what you’re asking. You’d fill out a paper that says “I do not consent to be a father” and submit it during a certain timeframe of the pregnancy?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:07 PM
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The entire point of this discussion is that a father could choose to surrender or embrace both rights and obligations as a package deal
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:08 PM
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Equality of outcome is primarily a prog left position, look at how the gender wage gap is used as evidence of discrimination against women for proof. Women have unequal outcome in pay = evidence of discrimination.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:02 PM
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“men GAVE women the right to vote because men built society!” I never see this brought up unprompted I see this brought up when people try to build arguments on amoral foundations and are relying on Reddit sitewide rules to plug the obvious hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:58 AM
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Feminism in its current state was being giga astroturfed in the 2010s, it was a “normal notion” to The Man only
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:34 AM
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Are we in agreement women demanding money from men is shitty behavior (barring gender essentialism) or not? It’s just something most men have to tolerate to be able to date at all, and in turn they adopt beliefs related to that expectation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:32 PM
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You didn’t answer my question that’s not fair I answered yours with a question and you got mad 😠
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:09 PM
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The answer I and most men take is just suck it up and pay to not hurt your chances, and accept that a large % of women are shitty entitled people But like, I answered your question now. Barring arguments of gender essentialism, do you think expecting men to pay is shitty and entitled too?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:54 PM
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You presented a false binary and I wanted to float a third option. walk away or accept The other option is to socialize women to change. But I wanted to know if you think that’s impossible because of women’s nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:20 PM
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Well can you admit that if we are rejecting arguments of gender essentialism in the name of equality, women setting an expectation of being paid for is morally wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:03 PM
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Do you believe it is inherent to women’s nature to abuse equality?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:35 PM
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Ok let’s put the dollar amount into labor. In my hypothetical world, Instead of paying for dates directly, the social custom is to split the bill, and then for men to do one hour of labor at the girl’s house after the date. Sex may or may not happen, usually you gotta clean her house 3 times. Then everyone tells you “what’s the big deal, it’s just an hour”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:29 PM
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Because a non trivial percent of women use splitting the bill as a shit test and accepting their offer=no 2nd date. And there are not enough women ok with it for refusing to pay as a point of principle to be viable, it’s like telling a gamer “just find a girl who likes competitive gaming”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:19 PM
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Great now you’re auto locked out of 80% of the dating pool because even the nicest woman you had a great time with will have this shitty attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 09:58 PM
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I don’t understand why men whine about this. Because expecting people to give you free shit is entitled shitty behavior and should be discouraged at a societal level it’s not that complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:39 PM
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This entire thread is just women rage baiting. “Biological realities for me, laws for thee”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:37 PM
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Watchdog groups step in to save me whenever I’m running out of oxygen
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 07:25 PM
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Reexamination has occurred and is occurring and the discussion has just turned into an endless loop of this has negative outcomes XYZ (birth rates, wages, relationship between sexes, etc) outcomes are irrelevant to principles such as freedom And personally while I fall more in camp 2 it’s clear that society is built on mechanisms that contradict those principles; even having tax write offs for married couples is a form of punishing people for not getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:03 PM
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We have hundreds of years of discussion on the “correct” system as the backbone of western civilization, polygamy is illegal in all 50 US states because not pairing up 1:1 is bad for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 10:42 AM
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Great so if we agree the government is neither the source or protector of human rights we can stop using the “but that’s illegal” argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 10:40 AM
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Human autonomy is not a right if we go to war I can be ambushed in the street thrown in a van and airdropped to the front lines
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:08 AM
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My and a lot of other men’s issue is there’s many elements of the social contract that need to be looked at if women aren’t going to pair up correctly. Like let’s say hypothetically it actually was 80% of women breeding with 20% of men. Should schools still be paid for with taxes, when only men are net tax payers and 80% are not benefitting?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:00 AM
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The part in Twilight where the werewolf boyfriend who can’t get with Bella has his werewolf instincts kick in to make him groom her daughter sends my sides into orbit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:56 PM
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why do you suppose women take out more taxes than men Doesn’t matter for the sake of the discussion does it? “Yes the state funnels men’s resources to men but…” 1974 It’s 2026 most likely neither of us were alive then
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 10:41 AM
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No, what I mean is even with the numerous financial advantages women enjoy in the form of scholarships, preferential hiring, and overpaid make-work jobs, as a group women take out more than they put in as far as tax contributions. So what does it mean to say women don’t “need” men? Unlike emotional labor this is something that is quantified.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:54 AM
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Men and women no longer need each other but women get to disproportionately benefit from male taxes and labor for some reason but sure if you pretend women don't get help from men then they don't need men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 10:44 PM
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Men are obsessed with casual sex because they get filtered in competitive
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 12:55 PM
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“I love my Husband, but I would never ever ever ever do something for him that makes me feel slightly bad”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 06:36 PM
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I was worried about a baby mixup, I heard those things happen all the time and I wanted some peace of mind
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:40 AM
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Women can choose not to work in coal mines and fight in wars because we don’t draft them and we make up special positions for them so they don’t have to do physical labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 12:22 AM
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His point is a woman being emotional will be supported in a way men aren't, crying serves no benefit to men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 12:49 AM
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if you're worried about being used for resources: DONT PAY FOR DATES! Losing strategy that auto filters you from dating 90% of women it’s better to just accept that women want a man who is some degree of meal ticket and treat them appropriately
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 10:35 PM
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You’re ignoring the wider point, to say “relationships in society are purely consent based on an individual basis” is to ignore that many of the costs of relationships are socialized to people who are NOT part of them. If 100 women all decided to have the child of a single man, is it reasonable to make the 99 unchosen men contribute to paying for it via taxes? Under our current system the costs of relationships are socialized to people who aren’t part of them, so the discussion does exist within…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 03:16 AM
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Great so you’ll remove the tax benefits from marriage and all forms of socialized childcare? Maybe even the laws related to dating and sex. Every woman I’ve talked to on here who claims to be “hyper individualist” is always willing to die on the hill that you’re not allowed to let children starve
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 10:30 PM
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That’s exactly the answer they are coming to but if you keep going from the male perspective you rapidly hit misogyny and it flies in the face of what we’re taught growing up which is why they’re seeking an alternate answer women are entitled to fair treatment from men I have to bring more to the table to make up for biological differences I have to be better than any woman I date why aren’t I entitled to fair treatment too? are women ACTUALLY entitled to fair treatment? Why should this be one-w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 01:25 PM
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Well why shouldn’t women ask men out 50/50 if men and women are equal? You start hitting double-think or misogyny really fucking fast when you try to engage with stuff like this honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 01:09 PM
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Do they? I thought RP generally says men have to approach. RP I think is more like if men and women are the same they should approach 50/50 men and women aren’t the same so you have to approach approaching requires bravery and therefore you are the better The last one is what people take issue with, but unless you appeal to biological realities (“of course men have to approach, they’re less valuable to reproduction”) there isn’t really a good refutation, and using the biological realities argume…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 12:36 PM
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https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/fmla/law From the section on “purpose” (5) due to the nature of the roles of men and women in our society, the primary responsibility for family caretaking often falls on women, and such responsibility affects the working lives of women more than it affects the working lives of men; and (6) employment standards that apply to one gender only have serious potential for encouraging employers to discriminate against employees and applicants for employment who are of …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:04 AM
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The length of time is for women and explicitly written as such in the text of the law, men benefit from it but its purpose is to enable women to compete in the workplace
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:35 AM
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Maternity leave, can’t discriminate against women in hiring, female exclusive scholarships and sports leagues.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 10:31 PM
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The decision to create a pregnancy is made at the point of having sex The decision to have a baby is made unilaterally by the woman when she decides whether or not to have an abortion. Why not have laws to give the man an equal say in spite of biology to make it more fair? Lord knows we’ve done it for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 10:13 PM
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I don’t see why the choice being painful entitles women to get to make the decision of fatherhood for men. Smh we make so many special rules to protect women from various biological realities like unequal strength for the sake of equality it shouldn’t be controversial to say both genders should be able to opt out of parenthood in the event of an unwanted pregnancy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:01 PM
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If you can’t pay for the kid just abort and you won’t have to go to the camp nbd. Maybe there can be a legal form men file with the government “I want to be a dad” so that there’s no risk of flight from a guy who agreed to be a father
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:33 PM
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This is easy to solve, it a woman has a baby in spite of the father opting out and can’t pay for it herself put her in a labor camp to minimize the tax costs
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 06:52 PM
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Women are not economically independent, we have laws, jobs, hiring practices, and taxes funneling resources from men to women in order to foster their “independence”. The question men are asking now is why should this situation continue?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:07 AM
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I’m pretty sure statistically women as a group are tax beneficiaries while men are tax payers every time they’ve studied it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:04 PM
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It’s a psyop not a real thing. Constant attempt to push up the perceived age of pair bonding
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:41 AM
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Woah woah woah not that kind of natural selection I mean like natural selection with government regulation!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 05:49 PM
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If you were engaging honestly you’d just clarify
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:08 AM
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You’re just being dishonest now. You’d claim to be misunderstood no matter what was said because you know the amoral position you’re attempting to take is doesn’t hold up. If you were engaging honestly you’d just clarify.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:04 AM
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I’m trying to get you to clarify your position because you’re not really being clear. To me it looks like you’re doing a mix of appeal to nature and dismissal of the issue as not important
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:22 AM
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So you’d say you think it’s morally wrong for a felon to get pussy easier than a law abiding man but you also personally don’t consider it a big deal?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 02:54 AM
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Animals attack each other to get pussy so it’s ok right? Just natural behavior for us animals. Could be a guy killing your husband or a guy attacking an unwilling girl for sex, it’s reflected in nature so it’s fine? The problem of encouraging that behavior should be obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 02:46 AM
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Because they are a dime a dozen, and because getting pussy is something that animals do, I don't consider attractive felons getting pussy to be fucked up. Animals do it. You don’t actually hold this position otherwise you’d have to be OK with male on female violence
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 02:37 AM
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IMO it leads into a larger conversation about female and child welfare, right now women are enjoying a lot of privileges related to the workplace and child support
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 11:38 PM
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It’s not the point of the conversation, it’s an attempt to derail into a different one. The convo starts with an assertion that laws are only valid if there’s a punishment mechanism (violence) against offending individuals, which you need men to carry out because ultimately women can’t effectively utilize violence against men. Men committing more violent crimes changes nothing about this assertion, in a world without men the law would be women carrying out violence against offending women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:19 PM
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I’m not engaging in this convo anymore you’re clearly just going to keep looping
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 06:19 PM
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No it doesn’t you’re projecting something onto it that isn’t there. You live in civilized society therefore most men are law enforcers you goober
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:46 PM
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Men have greater capacity for violence and thus contribute more per capita to both crime and law enforcement what is confusing here?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:35 PM
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False dichotomy+not relevant to what law is at a conceptual level
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:29 PM
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Women can contribute to enforcing law but they’re weaker, think of every law as a scale with violence as a unit of weight. Law Breakers are on one side, and Law Enforcers are on the other. For any given law the weight of Enforcement has to be greater than the weight of Law Breakers. Women have a weight of like 1, men have a weight of 3 (these are just abstract not real numbers). If 100% of women try to enforce a law on 40% of men they’re still outweighed. So no matter what you need men to enforc…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:09 PM
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Ok but that is not what the initial post is talking about. If all the men got raptured tomorrow and we had an all female society the women would have to use violence to have law.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:47 PM
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Are you disagreeing that law is enforced with violence? Because the initial claim is that law is enforced with violence. You’re trying to warp this into an argument that women are more moral because they commit less violent crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:30 PM
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Laws are enforced with violence, without violence law doesn’t exist because there’s no enforcement mechanism. Women are not good at violence so they are not good at enforcing law.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:19 PM
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because otherwise men's violence reduces civilization to anarchy. Quote it directly thanks. We’re talking about disagreement with SPECIFIC laws not refusal to enforce any law at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:12 PM
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because otherwise men's violence reduces civilization to anarchy. Quote it directly because I see nothing of the sort.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:03 PM
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What’s the point of pretending you don’t understand how the law is enforced exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 02:56 PM
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All rights or lack thereof are derived from violence
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 12:51 PM
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Finding a woman sexually attractive is not turning her into a sex object this is just going in circles
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 11:14 PM
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Maybe I’m misunderstanding but you seem to be saying that a man finding a woman sexually attractive based on physical appearance is inherently disrespectful even though that has nothing to do with seeing her as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 06:11 PM
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Something being ignored and something being silenced are not the same thing, your “soul, voice, and agency” aren’t entitled to attention
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 05:12 PM
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Explain how me checking out a girl’s boobs means I think she’s ontologically inferior
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 04:27 PM
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The male gaze objectifies no matter what Then objectification as a concept is meaningless and I don’t care about the feminist perspective on the matter
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 03:13 PM
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What I think your post highlights is that the use of the word “objectification” indicates a feeling of entitlement toward being romantically desired for your personality and accomplishments
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 03:06 PM
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It’s a debate sub people come to debate
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 02:53 PM
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They do, men feign interest in long term relationships to get sex (women bitch about this here basically every day)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:43 AM
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Most men are not content single and don’t respect the concept of covert contracts therefore they’ll just say whatever to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:54 PM
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https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10426866/ This is a really well documented thing
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:51 PM
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Tons and tons of women split dates, he can choose to go on a date with one of them Yeah just date one of the women who doesn’t care about height, splits money on dates, is really into video games and can turn water into wine too. Let’s all just price ourselves out of the dating pool trying to hold women to behavioral standards lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:44 PM
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Men agree and offer to pay because women don’t go on dates with you if you don’t, it’s a covert contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:38 PM
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This would be true if they split the bill only, if there is a covert contract that the man pays (almost always) then the woman used the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:27 PM
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Men should not only be wholly self sufficient but also bear their partners’ burdens as well, and also want women for reasons besides sex and see them as equal contributors because reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 05:04 PM
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So should we tell racial minorities to commit less crimes? Abusing Reddit rules to be safe edgy lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 01:17 AM
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It’s gotten drastically bigger dude incel rhetoric used to be limited to the chans because it didn’t effect most people, now a lot of the stuff is straight up on normal people social media and the only reason it didn’t really take over this site is active efforts to suppress it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 01:24 PM
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Everyone knows voting doesn’t do anything lol Which politician ran on another war with Iran? Or digital ID?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 09:39 PM
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Women resorting to variants of “might makes right” in an attempt to bait people into breaking Reddit rules by pointing out the obvious problem
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 02:16 AM
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I don’t agree I just won’t say it irl because the people who run the world enforce consequences for doing so
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 03:21 PM
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It doesn’t say anything about trans porn compared to other types of porn, it says the most lucrative/popular trans porn stars, what states and countries watch trans porn the most, and the most popular trans porn search terms. Unless I missed something?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 10:20 AM
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The entire point of these threads is to get men to answer their question mean enough to trigger a ban they know it’s a terrible argument
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 04:12 PM
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I don’t really understand what your objection is, he’s saying women having equal rights is fair and you’re questioning the definition of fairness in response
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 09:52 AM
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So your post is about a concept you don’t have a definition for?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 09:42 AM
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Where is the “grey” here? I don’t disagree that men have to suck it up and pay but it absolutely is an abuse of men by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 07:26 PM
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They absolutely aren’t this is pop science.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 02:58 PM
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IMO the rise in conservative attitudes among men can at least partially be linked to the outcome based evidence of discrimination that liberals employ; the idea that all differences in outcomes between groups are a result of discrimination since everyone of all sexes, races, and ideological creeds have the same capabilities. This was for example used by feminists to push the wage gap and might still be. So when men have worse outcomes it must be a result of systematic discrimination too, but thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 02:05 PM
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Well shit I feel dumb now lol The way it's structured made me think one lead to the other
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 02:27 AM
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What he means is pre-fall. Guys have basically a time limit in their teens to early adulthood to receive sexual attention and if they don’t they self destruct in some way. If the brother was a girl he would have gotten the attention to make him think he was on the right path.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 08:40 PM
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Then go on dates and accept that some men will be shitty and use you for sex. Or don’t date at all. You do have options.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 07:36 PM
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We can’t all date unicorns my dudette.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 06:59 PM
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If a guy is genuinely worried about being used for money, there are easy solutions: suggest low-cost or free dates. Walk in a park. Walk on the beach. Coffee. Ice cream. Snacks. If spending money is optional, then so is the narrative that sex is required as reassurance You LITERALLY NOT EVEN 10 MINUTES AGO came from a thread filled with women saying they see this as cheap behavior and that men who won’t pay for dates are not going to get shit
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 05:23 PM
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Tough shit. The majority of men would agree paying for the woman is an unfair gender expectation but we still have to do it because not doing it makes you lose to the competition. It’s only natural that men would develop a system in response to filter out women taking advantage of this expectation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 03:13 PM
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“Either accept putting out in a reasonable timeframe determined by men or accept being dumped”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 01:43 PM
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OP obviously doesn’t think it’s ridiculous, the Holocaust trick prevents him from responding.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 01:07 PM
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I would but that would be annoying and stupid this is just the first one I saw scrolling. It’s not a good argument, it’s a cheap online trick abusing sitewide rules
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 12:59 PM
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What makes TRP different from Holocaust deniers which face resistance and censorship? Use an example that can actually be discussed on Reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 12:42 PM
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Oh. I thought your posts were serious my bad. I feel like this goes without saying but security in a relationship comes from feeling loved.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 05:53 PM
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Men feel loveD through sex the D is important. It’s true men can fuck women they don’t love, but that’s not really what it’s about. Vetting for girls who will have sex with you outside a relationship is to reduce the risk of being trapped in a sexless relationship with a vampire
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 05:38 PM
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In this life you're owed nothing I don’t like when people invoke entitlement arguments on Reddit, imo it’s just being “Redditsafe edgy” where you’re protected from the full ramifications of that assertion by sitewide rules
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:24 PM
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Men have no moral obligation to children that aren’t theirs, and are justified in removing legal obligations if women are going to abuse it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:13 AM
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You are going in circles I do not accept your axiom and will have whatever opinions I please independent of your assertion of identity weighted opinions
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 09:37 PM
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Great So in your opinion yes, it’s fine for men to have their resources stolen through taxation to fund other men’s children, and a society of state enforced cuckoldry is morally justified and sustainable
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 09:36 PM
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Ah yeah by “financial support for single mothers I clearly meant dating them. I’m not going to bother if you’re going to be this disingenuous, I’ve made my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 09:22 PM
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That’s not privileges for women, that would be punishing and starving children. Stop and think about this seriously ok. Do you think it’s good for society that 1 guy can have kids with 5 different women, and then 4 other guys have to subsidize his genes? And no, nobody is saying ban women and minorities from work. But there shouldn’t be preferential treatment and protections if we’re taking “nobody owes anyone anything” to its logical conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 06:46 PM
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I think if women don’t want to play ball they should have privileges revoked, not rights. No more parental leave structured around maternity, no more financial support for single mothers, same sentencing for the same crimes, cut down on fake bullshit jobs invented for them to do stuff, no more diversity hiring mandating X % women. just generally stop funneling money from men to women through the state.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 06:18 PM
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Bro if someone says “I did (action) because (reason)” you don’t get to declare their given reason to be invalid because you declare that they have a position of privilege. Just discuss the issue without turning it into an argument about identity it’s not hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:03 PM
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When I say “people did not vote for Trump as an act of violence against women” and you respond with “you are wrong you just have a position of privilege and don’t see it”, you are putting me in the “elite” box. It doesn’t matter if I’m “only elite in this context” it’s an attempt to shut down discourse. You are not convincing me of anything. You are not convincing conservative voters of anything. You are just shutting down any possibility of discussion to preach, and people don’t listen; they ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:13 PM
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I didn’t say you were a part of the elite class. I said you being able to disengage gender from politics is because you have a certain privilege This is literally saying I’m part of an elite class lol Men are so sensitive and incensed by being told they have a certain privilege that they turn to violence and fascism And this is an assertion that voting for Trump was an act of violence against women. Any objection to this is met with “you just don’t understand because you’re a man”, which a prior…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 11:06 AM
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I’m not playing this game where you pretend nobody understands you when they disagree have fun
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 12:20 AM
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The noblest of hamsters is still a hamster
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 10:17 PM
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Your “point” is that people voted for Trump to stick it to women which is ridiculous. One side is advocating for infinite immigration and clowny gender politics, people voted for him because they don’t want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 09:48 PM
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How would I disagree with your point without proving it? Seems like you just hold your point to be a priori true
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:28 PM
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lol right “if you disagree with me you’re just part of the bepenis’d elite class” this is why people got sick of liberals
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:01 PM
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Oh you’re right I guess I glazed over it my bad. Regardless, Trump getting voted in has nothing to do with the gender issues but with people sick of having their opinions policed by moral busybodies and people wanting immigration down
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:31 PM
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???? wtf does Trump have to do with anything. You think people voted for Trump because…he promised to give men government mandated girlfriends and revoke the 19th amendment?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:57 PM
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Support for women is insanely institutionalized, if men removed support from women they’d probably starve lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:21 PM
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Sex is the original it just gets changed sometimes for political correctness because people don’t like to put “sex” and “need” together. The bottom row isn’t for stuff that’s a biological need, it’s for stuff that’s the number 1 priority; things average people have to do before they can properly pursue other avenues of self fulfillment. It’s just that obviously people have to pursue things to not die, and it’d be silly to make a whole new tier for sex when that’s the immediate next thing after n…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 08:01 PM
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Reproduction is at the bottom
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:21 PM
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I’m skeptical of obesity stats in general, the idea men and women have the same ideal weight/height ratio sets off my bullshit detector something fierce
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:01 PM
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I'm kinda confused what you're saying to him, men obviously can't rip the baby out of Mom's hands and take it to a safe haven to be absolved of parenthood regardless of what the mother thinks which is his point
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 03:42 AM
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Yeah I dunno OP people on this sub like to engage in selective amorality where nobody is owed anything since we live in an amoral world but also certain things are off limits for moral reasons. It gets silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 01:54 AM
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Ok I really don’t care if men lie about wanting a relationship to get pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 03:41 AM
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I guess my question is why would I adopt that framework when the rest of the discussion is “nobody is entitled to anything”? Like would you agree “it’s morally unfair that a serial killer has more sexual success than some quiet guy that likes model trains”?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 02:16 AM
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Is there something morally wrong with using relationships to get sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 12:12 AM
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Seems like a false dichotomy, the primary objection to abortion is that it’s perceived as murder, not that women are somehow cheating their way out of a punishment for having sex
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 02:38 PM
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I'm curious what point you think he's making because he's right. Women are overwhelmingly supported in society by men, it's just outsourced to the State
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 02:29 AM
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Damn guess we should just revoke women’s rights then.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:46 AM
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Yeah. Things are dire the younger you get and with online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 11:59 PM
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In most studies like this relationship status is self reported, so a woman in a situationship says she's in a relationship and the guy playing the field says he isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 11:51 PM
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I don’t see why I should accept a moral framework that’s not beneficial to me when the typical conversation is that nobody owes anyone anything so ex if your wife stops putting out after marriage too bad so sad marriage doesn’t entitle you to anything
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 12:54 AM
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Yes yes no in that order
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 12:15 AM
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I'm fine with that if they can't pay for them
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 09:59 PM
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HAHAHAHA the unpaid labor cope. How do you quantify that? What about the unpaid labor men do?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 07:41 PM
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No one said anyone is “entitled” to anything The argument that men need to provide something additional in order to match the value of pregnancy etc implicitly assumes women are entitled to the safety and stability men currently provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 02:26 AM
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There’s a reason specified middle class + socioeconomic environs. The entire concept of women providing meaningful labor for society is fake. This has been studied in several countries and it's been found that only men actually pay taxes as a group. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2375926 https://www.mm.dk/artikel/kvinder-er-en-underskudsforretning Even putting that aside, these kinds of arguments only work if you operate from the assumption that women are entitled to a safe …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 02:13 AM
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Yes there is? That is how life is. I don’t wanna work for 8 hours a day, I want a 18 year old wife with huge tits, I want super powers. Sometimes you have to accept reality it’s not reasonable to complain about shit nonstop
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 01:31 AM
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Protection via "value add" is provided continuously as the bedrock of modern society, the concept of the self-sufficient woman is largely an illusion created by governments redistributing wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 12:18 AM
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Why are people here surprised when guys behave immorally for sex when the overwhelming consensus is “no amount of good behavior entitles you to sex”? The logical end point of “improve yourself and maybe you’ll get sex” is “women are the prize and I don’t owe them shit”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 06:19 PM
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I don't think porn has ever actually been proven to cause harm, the methods you'd have to apply to test it are basically impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 10:19 PM
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They were probably just saying what they had to say
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 10:16 PM
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Regulation forces those jobs into existence. A lot of our society is structured to maximize the number of jobs a lot of them aren’t actually necessary
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 11:42 AM
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That already happened, black pill won the discussion most people on this board are black pillers larping
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 10:44 AM
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Once again, the argument becomes, "men won't do anything without the promise of pussy." If you won’t play ball you can lose your “””rights””” again lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 04:14 PM
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Yes it matters???? Wtf am I reading the entire point of having a kid is to carry on your genes if it's not mine I'm not raising it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 12:20 AM
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Every man who raises another man's kid unknowingly thought it was theirs lol I guess they didn't trust their wives enough
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 11:34 PM
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This is from the Findings section of FMLA (5) due to the nature of the roles of men and women in our society, the primary responsibility for family caretaking often falls on women, and such responsibility affects the working lives of women more than it affects the working lives of men; and (6) employment standards that apply to one gender only have serious potential for encouraging employers to discriminate against employees and applicants for employment who are of that gender. The explicit "cau…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 08:33 PM
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None of that is gendered, and neither is medical leave. What's your solution? Destroy the economy by forcing close to half the workforce to resign over childbirth? Deny male cancer patients the same FMLA protections when they get testicular or prostate cancer because of your personal crusade against women and pregnancies? Do you even understand why I brought this up in the first place? It was to show that we already have gendered protection for women which violates the concept of "individual fre…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 08:48 PM
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Because it infringes on individual freedoms. Society already infringes on individual freedoms in order to enforce desired behavior, we literally JUST discussed this; it was determined to be a """unilateral societal good""" that people are forced to hire and account for woman in childbirth remember? How would you like to be forced to marry and reproduce with some fat disgusting, asexual, asocial woman for the rest of your life because some government official deems her your "looksmatch"? How woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 03:47 PM
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Why does if have to be feelings just do the fucking test and be done with it this is an issue that ONLY affects men anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 12:21 AM
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I guess my question is why is this treated as a completely separate thing that’s beyond any discussion? We want the job market to have men and women participating at roughly equal rates, so we give women a leg up because of biological reality of pregnancy. So if we can discuss this, why can’t we discuss “We want women to be pairing off instead of doing the 80/20 shit, are there solutions?” Without every PPD user suddenly turning into a hardline Libertarian (but only for this one specific issue)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 09:54 PM
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The job market is a free market with at-will employment until a woman gets pregnant. Then you have to pay her for doing nothing, and you can't discriminate against women in hiring practices for this either. So what I'm saying is, we already have """socialism""" for women. If we want to have la saiz faire policy for men let's have the same for women. No alimony, if a guy breaks up with you and you gave up your career that was YOUR choice. Your kid will starve without tax coverage? Not my problem.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 06:05 PM
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Yeah and taxes are also socialism right because it’s the same my earned money is stolen and redistributed to single mothers and their spawn
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:32 AM
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Ok we have survival socialism by letting women live in a society men built they can gtfo if all cooperation is going to be framed as "socialism"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 10:20 PM
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You wouldn't think that reading this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 07:34 PM
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I mean. Lying is broadly wrong No? Lying isn’t illegal so it’s ok. Isn’t that how our moral framework works around here?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 07:50 AM
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There is nothing wrong with lying to women for sex. You're not entitled to anything after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 01:48 AM
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Woaaaaah the World Economic forum published something fucking stupid woooow who could have anticipated this
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 03:19 PM
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So what’s your solution to guys who have exclusively solo hobbies but still want to have a partner. Some guys have no interest in male friends and just want a woman to have sex+family, there is no scenario where they join a hobby group for the hobby
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 11:22 PM
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That’s where society is headed if nobody is willing to talk about the issue without stonewalling their position.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:41 PM
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If the implicit threat of violence isn't there the conversation invariably just stonewalls with "no" to every suggestion.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 11:40 AM
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Single-motherhood isn’t always the mother’s fault What do you mean just abort if you don’t want it 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:07 PM
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Some guys genuinely like flatties so it wouldn’t have been the same anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:04 PM
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Some guys genuinely like flatties so it wouldn’t have been the same anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:02 PM
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Some guys genuinely like flatties so it wouldn’t have been the same anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:01 PM
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My first GF I met in real life through a friend group broke up with me and immediately started shopping for a new one on Tinder, people who don’t think it influences dating are delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 02:42 PM
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If you can’t say what you want because your life will be ruined you don’t have freedom of speech
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 09:55 PM
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Why is this an “epic own” he would have the entire weight of the corpo-legal system destroying his life if he said it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 09:27 PM
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I don’t think it is unusual to have to order a fitted safety harness if you’re way outside the normal size for the job not really a gendered thing. As far as endometriosis I don’t know much about it But I can just give the typical feminists answer to male problems I guess “not my problem”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 02:58 PM
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I think there is way more effort and money put into researching women’s health problems than men’s like breast cancer is insanely well funded
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 02:45 PM
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You will never beat her ideas because she is obviously correct on this point lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 03:59 PM
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You can get fired
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 03:58 PM
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I want her to want me to touch her boobs though
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 07:22 PM
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Lol you guys act like people will just stop wanting to touch boobs because it’s hard
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 10:47 AM
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Umm, to not be a piece of shit and explicitly lie to women? You are not entitled to honesty :)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 05:39 PM
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Isn't it super well known that OkCupid's personality vs. looks scoring was found to just be a linear relationship i.e. hot guys were rated to have better personalities?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:33 AM
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Lol this entire thread is ridiculous. Just a long stream of "hold out for the perfect woman with literally zero mental issues and who shares all your interests" like guys are not fighting tooth and nail over this minority of a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:31 AM
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legitimate experts Have blown all their credibility in the past few decades and it’s become common knowledge you can buy studies to say what you want on some topics and on others if you come to the wrong conclusions you’ll have your funding pulled.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 12:41 PM
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Yes this sub is fucking boring now because everyone just argues from Reddit-safe nihilism perspective because it's easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 03:15 AM
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Cuz it's a necessity to form romantic relationships, most guys are just doing it instinctively and stop once it's not necessary. At least that's how it seems to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 09:08 PM
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No seriously. If you think "because evolution" is a real argument to be made in this kind of discussion then any incel should just become a rapist. It's extremely lazy argumentation that relies on the other person not pointing it out for politeness sake, but anyone in a dark place that reads this kind of argument is going to be pushed more and more to that line of thinking because you give them zero reason not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 07:02 PM
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In nature evolutionary disadvantaged males kill the dominant males or rape the females why do people invoke this as an argument? It’s so stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 03:26 PM
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He said "women are biologically attracted to larger males" and you vomited a wall of text about racism which you can't even really discuss on Reddit lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 09:41 PM
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Yeah yeah as usual “women are totes super good at something that can’t be quantified”. Women don’t have to marry nobody said they did, but they’re statistically financially dependent on men; the government just redistributes men’s wealth to women anyway when they won’t marry
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 02:06 PM
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The existence of independent women doesn’t change the per capita reality. I had to go find this study again as an example from New Zealand https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2375926 You can look at figures 16 and 17 for the gist of it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 01:32 PM
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Women are economically dependent on men, the few times they’ve done this study it’s been found that as a group only men are net taxpayers
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 01:14 PM
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We're not talking about imprisoning women for getting pregnant, we're talking about imprisoning women who decide to continue having children they can't pay for with fathers who won't pay for them. You should imprison the fathers as well because they are producing children that are unwanted. Only if they do not legally opt out. And of course I know none of this will happen. This is a moral argument not a utilitarian one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 07:18 PM
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You are going to say "You just don't get it man" no matter what I post because you don't have an argument outside your axiom and don't want to have to build it on any real foundation. Your entire argument is (accurately) summarized as Whether you wanted that to happen or not, it can and does, which is why you bear responsibility for the outcome. I say I shouldn't bear responsibility because the choice of the child is born is made entirely by the woman. Your counter to this argument is that "you …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 07:06 PM
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Do you think that men should be able to just completely abandon a marriage where he already has kids? No because they are already born and have rights obviously. We are discussing the man's rights in regard to abandoning the "clump of cells". If women are pumping out kids they can't afford to fathers who sign away their parental rights and economic responsibilities then that would be the fault of the women involved; imprison them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 07:01 PM
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No, it "boils down to" the fact that consent has nothing to do with the fact that shooting loads in sexually mature females can start the process of pregnancy I do not care about this point. Like legitimately it just doesn't matter to me. At all. You keep bringing it up I do not care that a man is required for pregnancy to be initiated. You can say "men play a role in the reproductive process therefore they are responsible" all you want, I do not accept this argument in any context where women c…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 06:51 PM
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What am I denying is happening? I just explained to you and provided counter examples in the form of anime style games that female protagonists in and of themselves are not considered "Woke". Altering female polygons in an active effort to make them less appealing to males Yes that's woke no matter how much you try to trivialize it as "unimportant" xD
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 05:42 PM
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Hurr durr how dare they alter those polygons to make the female character not make my peepee as hard The motivation behind this is why people have Woke fatigue.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 05:40 PM
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I think abortion is immoral too. I am purely trying to argue within the framework where I'm forced to live in a society where abortion is legal, and in that society woman make all the choices related to childbirth so I feel they should bear sole responsibility. If that guy sires a 1000 kids it doesn't matter, the women can abort.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 05:39 PM
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I just don't want to live in some trailer trash hoodrat society and subsidize it just so some trashy man can stick his dick into whatever with zero consequences. Me either. That's why if the woman won't abort and can't pay for it you put her in a labor camp so that she IS paying for it in some form. That's how you discourage promiscuity, give men more of a say in the reproductive process, and punish women who want to leech off the system in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 05:11 PM
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How come in your first post you asserted that the issue was "the mere presence of someone not being white or male", but now you can recognize that the issue is related to appearance? People perceive the changes to their appearance as implicitly anti-male (to make them less appealing to the male gaze), therefore it falls under what people would call "Woke". Just having a female protag isn't what makes something woke (again see the many many anime games with female protags)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 05:03 PM
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No it doesn't otherwise guys wouldn't be watching/playing anime stuff with entirely female casts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 04:37 PM
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Woke is media that pushes progressive left ideology related to modern gender and race issues and is typically aligned against heterosexual white men. These qualities can be implicitly expressed or explicitly expressed. If you get a radically different definition from somebody it's because they're falseflagging.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 04:12 PM
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Gooner is just a meaningless buzzword and the backlash against Woke media is largely a result of it existing to serve as propaganda rather than as a result of market demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 01:58 PM
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Ok if a guy does that put him in a labor camp with a wage, garnish X% of his wages for each kid, and THEN we can talk about social programs. If a girl does that and a guy gets paper abortion then put the woman in the labor camp and do the same thing. I know how it works currently, I don't want to pay for other people's choices, punish them to discourage that choice more.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 01:56 PM
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Lmao ok whatever I’m done then
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 05:28 AM
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Yes I want laws to establish equity, this argument was even made by the OP with the example of maternity leave as an existing law meant to make up for women’s biological disadvantage in the reproduction process. Your argument just goes in circles endlessly so I’ll address the next point the child is entitled to your care because your choice lead to their existence I don’t believe that since men can’t overrule the woman’s decision and if we applied it consistently we’d have to say sperm donors sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 05:25 AM
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Yes I want additional positive rights so that I have equal say in the parenthood process. Right now only the mother has a choice because as we’ve established abortion means the decision of the child’s birth is entirely hers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 05:08 AM
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I appeal to fairness because I live in a human society that strives for fairness in the interest of our collective benefit. What is this pretend nihilism crap? Like OP said we have things like maternity leave to create fairness between the sexes in the workplace in spite of biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 05:03 AM
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The child exists as a result of the fathers sperm yes, it does not exist as a result of the fathers choice. In any situation where the mother and father disagree, the mother’s choice becomes reality (unless as you said the father kills her or forces a miscarriage) This is a waste of time, you believe that a man having sex is consent to child rearing and don’t attempt to justify your position in any framework beyond that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 04:56 AM
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A man cannot choose to have a child when abortion is legal. It is a choice made by the woman and thrust upon him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 04:47 AM
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The entire argument is if a child is entitled to a Fathers parental care. You just continuously asserting they should be no matter what is not an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 04:36 AM
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This is not remotely analogous unless you believe being born is a form of harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 04:34 AM
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Then your argument boils down to “once you’ve fulfilled your reproductive role you consent to parenthood” For men that’s shooting their load For women that’s birthing the baby But there is no real reason for that to be the case. Why can’t a man shoot his load and say “I won’t be the father no matter what”? Just because it’s inconvenient for men to be able to do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 04:30 AM
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Why is there like this baseline belief that the woman won’t be able to support the child by herself?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 04:26 AM
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Why does the child have the right to be cared for by a father that did not consent to fatherhood?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 04:25 AM
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men don’t give birth so they shouldn’t have a say in what women do with their bodies This is fair. "financial abortions" don't achieve equity, they just conflate the biological process of reproduction with paying money This is where I take issue. If women having sex is not consent to parenthood then it isn’t for men either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 04:23 AM
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The action responsible for the child’s birth is the woman choosing not to abort. If your friend convinces you you will be fine to drive home drunk, and then you drive home drunk and hit somebody YOU are responsible. You had the final say.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:27 AM
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It is. If you aren’t going to provide any moral framework for your argument and argue purely from the perspective of “might makes right” then forcing a miscarriage is the correct answer for any man that doesn’t want to have a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:24 AM
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You are only asserting an axiom and providing no moral or logical justification. A female can provide the care by herself, a child is obviously not entitled to care by both parents
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:22 AM
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Ok so you are using the pro life argument; if you don’t want a child don’t have sex. The way this sub argues is so boring now, just endless “it should be because I say so”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:18 AM
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The child did not ask to exist; the child was made to exist, helpless, by the child’s parents. Parent. Singular. Unless you want to resort to the pro life argument lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:10 AM
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He is right. Life’s not fair sweaty, play to win
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:08 AM
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Hahahaha tell that to the law. Guess what? If I punch my pregnant wife in the stomach until she miscarries I will be charged with murder, not assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:07 AM
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deserves to be financially supported by both parents. Why? Because you say so?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:05 AM
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Gobbledegook If the WOMAN has the final say on if the child is born then the WOMAN has responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:01 AM
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The decision for the child to be born is solely that of the woman atm, you’re nonsensically pushing it a step back which is exactly the 0.5x choice he refers to in OP
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:56 PM
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Paper abortions, when used considering finances as bodily autonomy, results in either the kid starves or the taxpayers end up paying for it, Or you know THE MOTHER PAYS FOR IT AND if she won’t pay for it she is incarcerated and forced to pay for her kid through labor. I already answered this. You obviously lose bodily autonomy if you break the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:52 PM
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So let me get this straight We can't allow men paper abortions because if the woman wants to have the baby anyway and accepts jail time for REFUSING to take care of her own fucking kid which she made the active decision to have with foreknowledge of the man's paper abortion then it will have to enter the foster system and men might have to pay for it a little indirectly. You're just trying to waste my time by playing semantic games. If a man doesn't want a kid then the woman can make her choice …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 08:05 PM
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Nobody can be forced to work, not even the fathers that don't want to pay child support Right they just go to jail where they will be made to do prison labor under threat of solitary confinement in a strait jacket but it’s not forced :<sup>)</sup> If she can't pay for it, either the kid starves or taxpayer money goes to it. The woman goes to jail, she does prison labor, and through that pays into the tax system so it’s ok. The only situation where I should be paying for someone else’s kid is if …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 06:26 PM
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The government taking taxes from you is violation of bodily autonomy Correct In the case where financial abortions are approved, other men will be forced to fund the kids of the newly formed single mothers No, if the woman chooses to have the baby in spite of the man’s financial abortion then she can provide for it. If she can’t pay for it, put her to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 06:08 PM
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You hear men saying what they are allowed to say, which is what you want to hear. It’s not a universal rule but pretty much all guys want to date a hot young woman who doesn’t expect much of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 05:58 PM
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Financial autonomy IS bodily autonomy You exchange the labor of your body for resources. Forcing somebody to labor for something they don’t want is a violation of their bodily autonomy. Saying “it only counts if it’s this one specific biological process” is just special pleading. Bodily autonomy isn’t even a real right, I’m forced to sign a paper saying the government has the right to send me to die at any time in order to vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 05:48 PM
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Your point is only coherent if you accept your initial axiom (only bodily autonomy related to pregnancy has any value) Which is just a priori ruling out his viewpoint. Also your argument is exactly the same framework people against gay marriages used in the 90s which is goofy as fuck lol You have exactly the same rights as everyone else, you can marry somebody of the opposite gender
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 03:41 PM
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Someone is going to pay for the baby if it’s born. Yeah. The woman who wants it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 03:36 PM
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Instead of a misogynist Bro I don't give a fuck if somebody calls me misogynist. Nobody does. We pretend to publically because the power structure that lets us live and have health insurance says we have to. But anonymously everyone will respond to being called a misogynist with "Gigachad.jpg Yes"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 12:32 AM
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Guys already have to pay for their own kids
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 09:21 AM
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Not what I mean. As a group men (not allowed to be more specific on leddit lmao) are the only net taxpayers, women receive preferential treatment in high paying jobs due to AA which means some guys are getting denied those jobs due to gender, and a conversation I’ve had many many times on here boils down to “yes, taxing men to pay for other men’s children is acceptable”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 11:26 AM
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I would have no problem with this logic if men weren't being forced to subsidize women economically.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 01:12 AM
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You should never go to therapy if you have real problems. It serves zero purpose but to put you on a watch list.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:25 AM
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Roe v Wade was a comical abuse of federal power in order to bypass state laws and change social mores by force
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 01:56 AM
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women shouldn’t be seen as a reward for you getting your shit together. You already accepted that framework when you responded to the question of how to get women with “self improvement”, which is itself vague as shit since not all forms of self improvement are going to improve your chances with women. It’s just empty words and platitudes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 01:49 AM
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This is just telling men to do self improvement and shut up regardless of if there’s results or not
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:54 PM
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Femcels aren't real so nobody cares
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 11:47 PM
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Why do you guys constantly adopt this amoral position where you all but say “don’t like it become a rapist” Stop making arguments from nature
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 03:53 PM
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https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2375926 https://www.mm.dk/artikel/kvinder-er-en-underskudsforretning Every time they've studied this they come away finding only men are net taxpayers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:33 PM
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woman realize they don’t have to actually marry because the system just steals men’s shit to give to women regardless Ftfy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 03:23 PM
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Jordan Peterson and Andrew tate might be the target of mockery and bashing but they appeal to real concerns in men Jordan Peterson and Andrew Tate are gatekeepers meant to keep men in the rate race. They preach the same message in different costumes If you work hard and make money for the system you can get women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 07:54 PM
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This is why I got kind of annoyed with this sub. Everyone is just perpetually arguing at a level of “nihilism but no rape”, it’s extremely lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 01:08 AM
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Why am I seeing media literacy spammed everywhere now lol And it’s not even used right, “if you disagree with me you had bad media literacy”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 10:54 PM
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Exclusive networking options, preferential treatment in hiring in many fields, and as a demographic receive more federal aid than they pay in taxes in most countries. There was a study on it in New Zealand years ago, and similar was found in another Denmark study I found trying to find that one. Of course this isn't something you're allowed to study in any depth without getting funding pulled so nobody does it now. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2375926 https://www.mm.dk/art…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 01:48 AM
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If you increase the supply of labor wages go down this is basic shit it doesn’t matter if they are illegal (not undocumented bleeding heart hippy) immigrants or legal. And since these countries they come from have a lower standard of living they are willing to do harder work for lesser pay, what I am colloquially referring to as “slave labor”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:39 PM
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women make their own money Isn't there a statistic that as a group women benefit more from social programs than they pay in taxes?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 03:45 AM
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Yeah why let people improve their lives when you can import competition accustomed to slave labor xD
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 03:40 AM
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Why does that matter Just have a judge declare all forms of discrimination illegal, it worked for abortion when every state had laws against it xD
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 03:39 AM
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That just tells me either these guys have BDD, neuroticism, or are disingenuous and they know it's not their looks Yes the people on black pill forums who post their own pictures have extreme mental illness, the people who don't are likely ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 08:40 PM
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Cut off women from all the extra economic support they get. Then it will no longer be a moral issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 08:34 PM
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They do, it's a number that is itself statistically significant to the point you could have a study on the women who message first.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 12:59 AM
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Feminism was forced at gunpoint on a federal level
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 04:01 PM
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If you are bottom of the totem pole and improve yourself to get a girl you’re not going to see her as “equal” it’s just a consequence of that path.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 12:55 AM
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The statistic that most accusations are not false is misunderstood, what it means is that in most trials there is not direct, absolute evidence that the woman is lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 01:21 AM
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People use alimony colloquially as a catch-all including child support and however assets get split.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 01:08 AM
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With the way dating is now to me it just seems like if your relationship route goes a path different from acquaintance>casual sex>relationship there is a lot higher chance of you being used because it means you're not hitting her baseline attractiveness threshold.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 10:19 PM
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Do you preach the same accountability to men that don’t support their children? Yes I literally just told you men and women should both be responsible for their own children...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 01:14 AM
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I don't want to financially support single mothers They can support themselves I believe in equality
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 12:46 AM
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Nobody has a problem with FATHERS being forced to support THEIR OWN children, that isn't what people are complaining about. Just as a normal tax payer you are forced to pay for other dude's kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 12:25 AM
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The only purpose of this system is to steal resources from men and give them to women and their children, that isn't an "imperfect" system it's one that's openly hostile to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 12:20 AM
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Sick non sequitur.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:21 PM
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The problem with the current “sexual market” is that even if I don’t impregnate the woman my money gets stolen to fund her spawn.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 09:50 AM
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Yes If you're not responsible for my sexual satisfaction I'm not responsible for your spawn, hyper individualism swings both ways
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:49 AM
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No Women's existence is propped up by the state through taxation and social services
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:48 AM
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Then think of it as a release like going to the washroom. This isn't how penis works and you know it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:38 AM
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Again, the boring/unattractive should improve If we are being real you should become a serial abuser. That's where all this "uhhhh sexuality is amoral sweatie" dialogue leads.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 12:44 AM
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All women are gold diggers we just don't call it that until the difference in income is big enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 01:54 AM
4

There is nothing wrong with wanting a provider if that's what you're genuinely attracted to, nobody wants to be a sexless meal ticket though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 12:42 AM
1

Ah ok after rereading this comment string I see what you are saying now. I disagree though; within a moral system that considers women equal to men I have to believe that paternity fraud is a far worse crime than cheating; a guy who cheats isn't stealing from a woman who is allegedly capable of independently supporting herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:04 AM
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Ima be honest I genuinely have no idea what the fuck point you are trying to make here. What is the logical connection supposed to be between putting men into forced chastity and men getting paternity tests without women's permission if it's not that they are supposed to be each gender controlling each other's sexualities?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 02:55 AM
1

https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/fair
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:07 PM
1

You said wearing a chastity belt (controlling men's sexuality) is the equivalent of a paternity test. If (controlling men's sexuality) is the equivalent of paternity test, then paternity test must=(controlling women's sexuality) yeah?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 09:16 PM
1

Everyone who has their trust betrayed trusted the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 01:59 AM
2

Lol at comparing being prevented from engaging in paternity fraud to controlling women’s sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 01:56 AM
2

What a goofy post. I guess that also means Red Pill is fake too, because nobody wants you talking about that on the rest of Reddit. Ideas being true or not has nothing to do with how useful they are to you as a person or how many people like them. A 5’4 guy is almost certainly not going to be able to play in NBA no matter how hard he tries.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 07:45 PM
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What I am getting at is that to have a discussion about red pill which focuses (allegedly) largely on the benefits of self improvement you also have to be able to talk about the limits of self improvement. You can become more attractive by working out; how much more attractive can a 5’8 guy become? Can he reach the baseline level of a 6’0 guy? “Black pill” didn’t just come out of nowhere with no data, it was an evolution of the Red Pill discussion space.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 02:56 PM
3

So we could have a discussion like Women are primarily attracted to genetic markers of physical fitness/attractiveness at a level that goes beyond what can be achieved through self improvement And it would be ok if studies are examined and it's not explicitly called "Black pill"?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 02:22 AM
–

Social media allows people to have exact numbers on how unwanted they are. But note that social media isn't the CAUSE it just made people aware they're alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 01:40 AM
1

IMO Black pill as it exists in the mainstream is younger than this sub and was just a natural evolution of the Red Pill, and "modern" Red Pill discussion is borderline indistinguishable from Blue pill at this point in all forms except jargon.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 01:24 AM
3

The more I read this sub it is basically like everyone has become blackpilled and is talking around the sitewide rules to say what everyone has realized but can't be said.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:01 AM
3

I don't think you can be "purple pilled" I think this is a place where people argue the two positions. As for the culture I feel like the black pill won the culture war pretty thoroughly and everyone here is just some degree of red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 02:40 PM
1

You are not entitled to a paycheck Just do the work and maybe if you are a good person your boss will pay you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 12:15 AM
1

How is that remotely appealing to be loved only for the resources you can provide? It's literally just prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 06:02 PM
3

You are just playing moral chicken and hoping ugly dudes never actually respond as amoral actors, that’s kind of fucked up imo
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:39 AM
12

I don't feel like women being too tall actually makes them unattractive it's just pointless to pursue a woman taller than you because the chance of her liking you a lot is too low.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:31 AM
18

1) Therapy is a massive meme 2) It's completely normal to form behaviors out of repeated patterns of results
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 11:38 PM
1

Women are still dependent on men, they are as a group subsidized by the feds
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 11:36 PM
1

True fulfillment comes from service, work provides one easy avenue to that, building a family is another. If you are careful to choose a career with work that engages you, where it doesn’t actually feel like work. Not everybody in the world can have cushy bullshit jobs. Some 50 year old men are gonna have to lift heavy shit and do boring construction for society to function, I see them every day. Nobody is falling for it anymore, "make paper get bitches" that Tate is peddling is blue pill with a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 08:13 PM
0

Become a malcontent (steal etc, I'm not advocating for this but you asked what the alternatives are), leech off parents, work part time doing the bare minimum. Why would you care if it's sustainable in the long term? There is no future for most guys outside wage slaving, just go until you can't anymore and then do whatever you want, you owe nobody anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 08:03 PM
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For guys it basically is. You are generally expected to pay for the dates, plan the dates, and drive conversation on the dates. You have to already be successful financially and have an established social circle as well. When failures in the dating world are met with "you need to work harder on yourself" then how would you not see it as a job you are being paid for? It's literally stated to be "WORKING" on yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 07:50 PM
2

Work will set you free Read it immediately you can recognize it's a trick, the vast majority of businesses fail
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 07:42 PM
2

Andrew Tate is a pied piper trying to get guys back into the workforce just like Jordan Peterson. He's part of the system imitating the opposition but trying to redirect it into something useful for itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 06:41 PM
1

when women depended on men for safety and financial stability. Don't they still? I remember seeing data a while ago that as a group women take more from taxes than they put in.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 06:25 PM
8

This lol The 6'0 stat that girls actually make use of on dating apps automatically reduces the number to 15% or less alone
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 06:12 PM
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Sweaty we're not in a recession we changed the definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 06:49 AM
2

No they didn't lol It was banned because black pill is winning the culture war, and that's also why this sub is going to shit. The conversation can't advance anymore because the path it naturally leads has been blocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 01:18 AM
2

Survival of the fittest but not really Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 09:38 PM
2

Bro you don’t get to invoke “survival of the fittest” and only go halfway. The moment you invoke it you’re revoking the entirety of civil rights
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 08:34 PM
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What is “proud” about it it’s just a fact. In an ideal world women would willingly pair off instead of forming soft harems and then weaponizing the federal government to steal resources from men outside the harem but the latter becomes more and more true every day and violence begets violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 12:29 PM
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You can complain, but if you want pure "survival of the fittest" a woman doesn't have to choose me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:00 AM
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If a man can get a date from a woman, he can get a hookup from the same woman if she's open to casual sex. In an ideal world that would be true but it's not, some women demand a certain level of "use" to have sex if you don't meet a certain attractiveness threshold.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 05:18 AM
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As long as you are consistent nobody cares, the problem arises when you break your own rules for one dude (because he’s super hot) and then try to be serious with someone not hot enough to break the rules after
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 04:00 AM
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Not all men can get hookups, men don’t want to be in a relationship with a girl who does hookups but wouldn’t hookup with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 03:56 AM
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Everyone on this board is just some degree of red pill now, blue pill “work on your personality” has been laughed out of the public square despite media backing. Literally the only difference is just whether you use the special code language or not
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:12 PM
0

Sorry but most algorithms are modified to show you what THEY want you to see, not what you want to see. For example type “Happy White Woman” into Google images and you’ll be inundated with images of happy black male+whites female couples. I’m not going to take them at their word that the algorithm works as described, red pill and (redacted) communities have to be moderated off of the internet repeatedly for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:27 PM
31

I identify as 6'2
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 09:47 PM
7

US women are becoming their own beta bux The federal government is serving as BB for women collectively
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 05:01 PM
0

The lack of gender differentials makes me think BMI is bullshit, when you go by fat % there is a difference because obviously a healthy woman has more fat than a same size man, so why would the reverse not be applied for a measurement of density?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 08:27 PM
1

I don’t need a woman to own a home, woman is for sexual excitement
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 03:17 PM
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Women don't have burning desire Gaslighting lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 10:57 PM
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I don’t think the problem is the dudes participating it’s how many women given the opportunity actively seek it out. It makes marriage feel like scraps instead of the goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 01:25 PM
2

I don’t see objectification as money, men basically want to be loved in the way a trophy wife is loved, just looks and sex. We want to be able to walk into a room of women and have them instantly want our babies no questions asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 08:36 AM
4

I think a lot of men want to be objectified because it means you are loved independent of material things you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 12:54 AM
1

No they are saying the only way to get true equality is if men and women invest the same amount, but women happen to invest nothing and nobody expects them to do more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 06:50 PM
2

Isn’t it commonly understood in these kinds of conversations prostitution doesn’t count? Otherwise anyone can “have sex” as long as they’re willing to break the law or not depending on area.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 06:24 PM
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This is the absolute truth people don’t want to admit and why it is forbidden to talk about too much here lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 06:16 PM
2

It can’t get through our government because the people don’t want it. Americans aren’t Europeans.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 07:51 PM
2

I am not religious but I can’t mental pretzel my way into seeing it as not murder. If I go around punching pregnant women as hard as I can to force abort it’s considered murder, not assault. The fetus is alive and will become a baby if natural process isn’t interfered with, and the fetus/baby division is extremely arbitrary compared to the fertilized/unfertilized one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 07:48 PM
1

Ugly. I don’t care about any of the dumb copes about personality or whatever I’m just gross to look at in a way that can’t be fixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:54 PM
6

Not many men get to do that and especially not marry into that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:50 PM
1

This interpretation is more of a parody of the concept, the “Chad vs Virgin” was originally used as a joke where the “virgin” was doing normal things everyone does and “Chad” was absurdist humor.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:03 PM
3

Because 80% of men won't agree to cooperate if they believe it doesn't improve their chances of reproduction, society is built on that premise; everyone cooperates and if you do you get to have kids who will cooperate too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 04:40 PM
0

What is factually true and what our bodies think don't line up with modern technology. Women aren't gonna die in childbirth nowadays from having too narrow of hips but men sure as hell like them wide still.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 11:38 PM
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The "investment" from a biological perspective is the risk of getting pregnant, not whatever you seem to think it is. Risking getting pregnant with less investment from the man means you've invested more into him (again purely parental opportunity cost here).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 06:36 PM
1

That's a man, baby!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 09:47 PM
4

How much time, effort, and money is a man allowed to spend on looking good? We are socially conditioned to believe that any attempts to mask our genetics are unmanly and shamed for it. For example, I'd be more attractive if I wore lifts in my shoes to be talller just like you can be more attractive if you wear makeup to appear younger. But which of us would be shamed for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 03:21 PM
1

My experience here is that most people aren't nearly as smart as they think they are and think an argument's length is directly proportional to its merit. Purple pill and purple prose
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 06:01 PM
1

Black pillers don't put a moral judgement on being a Chad, it's treated as a thing you are rather than a thing you can become.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 01:51 PM
1

1) Do what I tell you or you're fired and will lose access to money and food you need to survive 2) Have sex with me or I'm done with this non-essential but mutually beneficial partnership Which is coercion?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 03:31 PM
2

No, it's more like "what's healthier, accepting things you can't change or agonizing over them?" It's not an ideology like you're thinking, it's a shared world view formed from years of experience. When you say being an incel is "wrong" you are telling them "You can change! You can be attractive!". It's not helpful to actual ugly people to lie like that, it's ok to be scared of death and it's ok to be bitter about being ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 01:59 PM
2

That stuff already exists, nobody wants it because such spaces inherently are based around the idea that incel "ideology" is incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 06:04 PM
1

He means stay at home mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 12:35 PM
2

How big is the population of women that actually pursues though? Even if X percent of women that send messages do send messages to the bottom Y percent the frequency of women sending the first message is so low that that would almost need to be looked at as a separate group.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 05:11 PM
12

ER was a whackjob and it's intellectually dishonest to be trying to use him as an example of incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 05:09 PM
1

But actual incels self identify as incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 05:38 AM
1

I don't think anybody actually thinks sex robots will provide any validation, just that not having to pay every time you use it makes it less dehumanizing than a hooker if it feels good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 05:37 AM
1

It does in the context of a discussion on how much you can improve your SMV/RMV. Like I could tell you "my appearance is dictated by the color of clothes I'm wearing, my brand of shoes, my choice of tie, and my height" but height is really the only one that's very meaningful.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 07:16 PM
1

Raw number of attributes in each category doesn’t mean as much as how they’re weighted in value.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 11:38 PM
12

Agreeing with this guy, recognizing that people on average don't want to talk to you is also a learned social skill.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/18 08:24 AM
3

Sorry where is this conversation even going? I thought we were starting from the perspective that "anyone can break into the top 20% and get unlimited pussy", now it's "anyone can get a wife".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 01:03 AM
1

I don't disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 01:02 AM
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That doesn't change that you can't break into the top 20% and get that "unlimited pussy".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 06:24 PM
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Somebody who's reasonable and realizes you can't just improve yourself to the top 20%. A lot of your attractiveness is tied to things you can't control like your height, face shape, and beard genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 03:22 PM
1

It's purple pill debate not purple prose debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 12:51 AM
1

Lol maybe not that bad but you see plenty of MGTOW and incels talking about just working part time to make enough to get by, I think it's a valid concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 10:28 PM
3

Because they had sex to make them believe it was worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 10:39 AM
1

Did all the girls bang the same 10 dudes Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 07:17 AM
3

If you wouldn't live in a dumpster with your SO you don't love him, that's literally how we feel. Note that I'm not saying you should love a man who chooses to live in a dumpster, what's being said is that if a man falls on hard times and ends up in the dumpster through no fault of his own would you be there for him?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 06:54 AM
1

Outlaw abortion then.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 08:26 AM
1

Lol yeah good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 08:16 AM
1

I don't think anyone would seriously argue that some peoples' bodies defy thermodynamics, I think there is a very real argument to be made that some people's brains are wired very differently as far as pumping hormones into them to drive them to eat.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 07:57 AM
2

Because why would we care? The age of marriage+kids keeps going up so there's no reason for us to move out, but I'd bet it's not just marriage but all those other little milestones as well. There isn't that little carrot anymore, guys go on Tinder and see girls have an instinct to get kids from guys 6ft tall with good looking faces, not average guys with great careers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 07:38 AM
2

Reminder incel ideology will always thrive in an environment of free speech :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 04:26 PM
2

"When the world turns its back on you you turn your back on the world"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 04:13 PM
1

100% agree, they need to use metrics like "X times per week". In most of these studies a relationship where the woman has a perpetual headache but puts out once a year on Christmas is sexually active.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 11:17 PM
0

Yeah this is the answer. Investing heavily in women is no longer the responsible normal thing, it just makes you a loser that had to wait and pay for what others got for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 11:40 PM
-1

Incels got banned because it was popular, talk of violence on incels was talked about on an abstract and consequential societal level, not in the form of encouraging violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 06:42 PM
3

This is like asking a guy on 4chan who identifies as a Wizard why he doesn't just magic himself up a girlfriend, that's not the actual meaning of the word in this context.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 08:00 PM
3

The "rape is about power" thing is obviously bullshit propaganda. Rape is an ancient evolutionary strategy that's survived thousands of years across a ton of species, it did not disappear and then re-appear in the same species (humans) but with a different purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/18 04:28 AM
2

Rape is about sex, the idea that rape evolved as a sexual strategy in the animal kingdom including many of our closest primate relatives, was somehow lost in humans, and then reacquired as a form of neuroticism is laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 12:05 AM
2

It doesn't matter if men lift or not, they're gonna have more and denser muscle and thus weigh more than an equal height woman in all but the most extreme cases of soyboys. BMI is pretty blatantly biased against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 04:20 PM
2

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the stats but I think women have a higher allowed body fat percentage but most of these stats for measuring nationwide obesity use BMI, which puts men at a disadvantage since men have naturally denser bodies and BMI is just a height/weight ratio.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 04:17 PM
2

Hell I'd wager most men do not have the ability to have instant sex with their own wives and girlfriends as much as they'd want.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 07:55 AM
3

Chad would use the same sexual strategy as "nice guys" if he wasn't Chad. You can bitch about "nice guys" sexual strategy all you want but if they do the same thing as Chad it will not work, so in my mind they're the same and it's unfair to moralize sexual strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 06:06 AM
2

It's impossible to prove a universal negative, the onus is on the one making the positive claim (AWALT). And no, rephrasing NAWALT to try to make it sound like a positive claim does not make it so. It's not meant to be taken literally, in the context of red pill it's a protective thought process meant to push guys toward abundance mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 01:38 PM
1

Just say hey I got snipped Then your sexual relationship is over if she wants kids in the future. It's scummy but some dudes are gonna lie about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 12:14 PM
1

This but unironically, gender war isn't really feasible because there's reproductive incentives to side with the opposition.(See: male feminist activists). But if it came down to an actual outright war women would have zero chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 12:21 AM
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It doesn't have to be to his face, even if she just turns to her friends after he leaves and "oh my god that guy was so creepy" it can do damage to his reputation. I don't think I've ever seen somebody called a creep to their face at all, it's always to a group of friends when the guy leaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 02:10 AM
5

Well apparently they can read minds and identify danger from a mere look across the bar so force choking isn't too ridiculous by comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 12:33 AM
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Men's problem with the cock carousel doesn't have anything to do with women discovering their sexuality, it has to do with the relative effort we put into and value of what we're getting from a relationship. You talk about needing to discover yourself but a lot of us less than stellar guys get left completely in the cold while we wait for you to do so and then are expected to bring a bunch of shit to the table nobody else had to once it's time for a real relationship. What are you expecting to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 05:05 AM
1

No, don't use online dating. I'm not a very sociable person.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 01:16 AM
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Not if it harms women, remember it's a sea of dick fighting for a pond of vaginas. It would be like making a "dudes drink free" night at the bar, sure you'd get a lot of extra dudes in your bar but they're all drinking for free whereas if you do "ladies drink free" you get slightly more women drinking for free in exchange for a bunch of extra dudes coming around spending money looking to get lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 09:12 PM
2

I'm not being defensive I'm just annoyed at this overwhelming tendency everywhere for people to write large, emotionally charged opinions on debate forums with no backing. What can I argue against? It's a massive several paragraph rant about immaturity in men and women based on his own vaguely defined standards and doesn't address any of the potential reasons behind what he perceives as immaturity. The post is just too all encompassing and not useful as a result.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 03:50 AM
2

Proofs? Source? Anything but "fuck da young ones and fuck this newfangled computations wizardry?"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 03:39 AM
8

So what, we just post a giant wall of old fuddy duddy "back in muh day" garbage, say it's the reason for sexual dysfunction in modern society (with no quantifying factors btw), and then claim that this is red pilled?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 02:28 AM
5

Every online debate forum is filled with pseudo nihilists, it's by far the easiest position to defend and people are more interested in "winning" the argument than arguing a coherent position they actually hold.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 05:42 AM
0

The mockery comes from the "how can I do this without losing fat" attitude. You can not be fat and you can find guides everywhere on how to lose weight. Even if it's not valid or doesn't work there's nowhere besides red pill/pua teaching men the steps to have casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 10:13 PM
1

Literally google it, average age of virginity loss is 17 which is still high school and only 14% of people 20-24 are virgins. That means yes, most people get action in late high school early college and that doesn't even include first kisses, dances, and other fooling around which most incels also do not get.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 05:11 PM
2

Most black pilled incels did the same "nothing" that their peers did growing up. I fell into a deep depression my freshman year of college and put on 50 lbs because I'd been a straight A student in high school and a varsity athlete for 4 years but had nothing to show for it; I didn't get invited to parties, my friends saw me as a friend but I was kept at a distance, and I certainly didn't see any action. But you will call it "pre conceived notions" even if it's built on years of personal experie…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 09:02 AM
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