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Such a misandrist way of looking at sex and at men. No. Well not all men, but I think for most men (or atleast a lot of men) the validation they would get from casual sex trumps whatever shit they get in a relationship. A woman wants you so much she's willing to fuck you despite being a relative stranger. Thats validating. You get to be the AF in the AFBB, thats validating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 10:54 PM
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Fair trade tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:17 PM
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The NyPost article literally quotes a study. Hardly cherry picking. Also p sure a big part of the red pill IS self improvement. Sure. Go look at the statistics. Educate yourself on the depressing shithole that modern dating is. Maybe throw in some biology to justify that position a little more, entrench your beliefs a little further. Because it’s all true. It’s all fucking true. Humanity is a shitfest and the reason why the redpill is so effective is because for a lot of people it’s TRUE. It spe…
/r/ExRedPill23/09/24 12:58 AM
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The point is that you (and no woman for that matter) would have given enthusiastic consent to sleep with a man they were not attracted to. And so for men, women wanting to sleep with them is inherently validating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:51 PM
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You would still need a normative view that describes what you approve or disapprove of. It doesn't negate any normative views on right and wrong. The point is that there can be no normative view because right and wrong are utterly subjective, situational, and dependent on both context and observer. I'll explain this simply - I'm okay with lying when I don't feel its bad. I'm not okay with lying when I feel it's not bad. Basically everyone accepts that moral right and wrong exists, even if purely…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:42 PM
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Yes, but it goes further with some branches of non-cognitivism conjecturing that all ethical statements are really expressions of an emotional state or desire. And thats what I consider ethics to be. Personally I'm not guided by any formal code of ethics at all. I just accept that any kind of moral outrage I feel at something is just an emotional desire and I accept that. That is why I will sometimes be okay with acts that society deems unethical - because my conscience isn't being triggered. Ly…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:32 PM
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The one where ethical statements are meaningless. I'm a non cognitivist.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:14 PM
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I've only had sex with two men, but even I know that's crap. The advantage of having a lot brothers and male cousins I guess. I don't understand, were you not attracted to those 2 guys ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:50 PM
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:(
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:19 PM
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I feel either way is valid. Do whatever you want, I have no issue with such lies. But I personally don't plan to lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:18 PM
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Lying is wrong Depends on your conception of ethics.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:14 PM
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I think its more - I need experience to get my first job, so let me get experience by hook or by crook. Basically inexperience is seen as something one has to be rid of. So any experience > no experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:13 PM
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None of that matters as much as being a treating your fellow human beings in an ethical manner. Thats why I said it's a value. Values are subjective. Sex doesn't validate that someone is attractive or desirable. It just shows that the person they had sex with wanted sex. Sex with someone consenting enthusiastically basically validates that that person is attractive. A repulsively ugly person (even an incel) can get sex if they are willing to have sex with anyone interested such as even more repu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 04:57 PM
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Incel assumption that the only thing that matters in life is having sex The "assumption" (its a personal value, really), is not that sex is the only thing that matters. Its the being desired and validated (via sex) is the only thing that matters. If it was only about sex, incels would just get hookers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 04:37 PM
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I think its okay to be selfish when it comes to us or our loved ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 04:34 PM
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I can't guarantee their happiness so I would never condemn someone to exist without being sure they would be happy. Tfw someone else who thinks exactly like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 04:30 PM
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I dunno, p good for the guy who got to sex so many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 04:27 PM
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I still fantasised about their bodies and especially their curves. There's something about soft voluptuousness that is very feminine and appealing. Yeah exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 01:43 AM
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Tbh I don't think its all women's fault either. Women who do go after what they want are labelled "easy". Ive seen it happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:54 PM
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I feel women are far more empathetic than men (by a mile and then some). And I think men should really prioritize making friends with women. ETA: I wish women didn't have this pressure to look skinny. I know a LOT of men who into naturally curvy women. I wish women just embraced their bodies as they were.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:45 PM
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51% of women' which means you still have 49% of women who don't mind a virgin. That's half of all women. That is a LOT of women. Take age into account. I bet the 49% is and 51% are heavily partitioned by age. I'm 32, I can't (and dont want to) date a 21 yo.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 07:26 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 06:26 PM
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Wanting validation is hardly nonsense.
/r/ExRedPill16/09/24 12:08 PM
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Thank you!
/r/ExRedPill16/09/24 12:08 PM
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However, my biggest advice to inexperienced men who are getting their chance: take criticism well. Does this actually even need to be said ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 07:33 AM
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The thing that bothers me is that women who'd be okay with a virgin dude (in my age group of early 30s), must be vanishingly rare. Like maybe 0.1% of all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 07:26 AM
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When my wife was telling me this , she had the tone that it was bad/ embarrassing / unattractive for a guy to not know what he’s doing. Ngl, reading this hurts.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 07:24 AM
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Psychology tell us that that wouldn't actually make you feel good Psychology is barely a science at all, from its Freudian roots to its current empirical crisis (most studies can't be replicated), filled with grifters and those with an axe to grind.
/r/ExRedPill15/09/24 09:09 PM
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I think the point you're not getting this that regardless of what it feels like, the reality is that it's the other person's intentions that matters. I don't agree in this instance, because the OP is talking about how HE feels. And how he feels is not linked to the intent of the compliment giver, but to the compliment itself. Personally, if I were in this situation, it would drive me to go to the gym obsessively if I don't already. I'd get into calorie counting, and maybe even take some steroids…
/r/ExRedPill15/09/24 02:14 PM
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Paid access
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 10:31 AM
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You're not getting me. The point I'm trying to make is that one FEELS more genuine than the other.
/r/ExRedPill15/09/24 04:29 AM
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I think its because for men, since we never get compliments on our appearance as opposed to our character traits, getting a compliment on our physical form feels more valuable/validating and thus more genuine. Some of us just want to be objectified.
/r/ExRedPill15/09/24 04:02 AM
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Hmm. You made me introspect a little. Usually I think women are revealing preferences. But if its something like "votes pro choice" then I'd say its because they want women to change behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 09:46 PM
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I gotta do/be whatever women think is sexy. Thats what goes through my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 09:36 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 09:33 PM
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This is a question to ask women though, because women are the ones who use these lines.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 09:16 PM
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Thank you for the recommendation. I will certainly check those out. But I'm still more interested in being the kind of guy who offers danger as opposed to security. Hence my question of what a man can do to be seen as the volatile bad boy type.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 01:12 AM
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One q as someone who hasn't done much drugs except weed a few times. Does LSD reduce social anxiety and inhibition ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 11:18 PM
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Women cheat because they feel unhappy or unsatisfied for whatever reason, and then make the choice to do the wrong thing by cheating. Unless you have some kind of fetish for it, cheating never enters your hopes and dreams, ever. This isn't true. Or only partially true in that some women cheat because they are unsatisfied. Here https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/10/why-happy-people-cheat/537882/
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 11:14 PM
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But you don’t get a post about a husband holding a door open for wife on reddit, or driving them somewhere, or simply just existing in a very comfortable, safe space next to each other. Because those actions are NORMAL. They are EVERYDAY. And, honestly, kind of BORING. They are not noteworthy. You're wrong about this too. I distinctly remember a post where a guy put out some of his wife's crystals in the sunlight to charge them. He knew it was a silly superstition but he indulged her in it. I sp…
/r/ExRedPill13/09/24 11:08 PM
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In fact I would argue most men will never be “lusted” after by women in general ever in any part their life. Damn, thats brutal. I guess the blackpillers have a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 09:31 PM
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Your current partner not being your best lover ever doesn't mean you have bad sex life or you have no passion. But a lot of men want to BE the best sex of their partners lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 09:12 PM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 08:43 PM
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Read the OP
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 08:42 PM
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Itd not about getting women, its about being the best sex a woman has.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 08:41 PM
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So then there's no hope that the SOs of the women in the article can get that kind of passion with their women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 08:40 PM
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Hmm, maybe because thats all that my friends are (not counting the ones who do drugs)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 08:30 PM
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So basically find a new woman ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 08:21 PM
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4/10 for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 08:17 PM
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You can be intense and passionate without being toxic. How though ? Like, if you had to give the husbands of the women in the article advice, on how to be intense and passionate, what advice would you give them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 08:15 PM
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How ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 08:14 PM
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Sure, but they get to be the I-had-incredible-mind-blowing-sex-with-him guy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 08:10 PM
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Does white collar crime count ? :D
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 07:52 PM
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But these are honestly just fantasies. Normal dudes should not try to become these men, because most of the time a bad boy is actually just a toxic douchebag. The woman doesn't end up taming him, he treats her as shittily as he does everyone else, or she just becomes a worse person to match his toxicity. Yeah but he gets that awesome, intense, passionate sex though. Worth becoming one for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 07:50 PM
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I disagree. Know a friend who although isn't really a bad boy, is kinda ugly but has 0 social inhibitions. Man loves to travel and try new things. He has a long list of exes and flings. I was with him at a bar once, dude was like come lets go hit on those girls, and then just went and did it. Got shot down, but its like he didn't even feel it. Dude was laughing. Me, I'd be too afraid to even know what to say. Fight or flight paralysis is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 07:48 PM
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You described someone with autism, or Ben Shapiro.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 07:36 PM
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So, if some dude at a bar tells you straight up that he wants to fuck your brain out, he'd be considered one the bad boys (as opposed to a creep) ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 07:35 PM
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Idts. Lemme give you an example. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/10/why-happy-people-cheat/537882/ Most descriptions of troubled marriages don’t seem to fit my situation,” Priya insists. “Colin and I have a wonderful relationship. Great kids, no financial stresses, careers we love, great friends. He is a phenom at work, fucking handsome, attentive lover, fit, and generous to everyone, including my parents. My life is good.” Yet Priya is having an affair. Not someone I would eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 07:31 PM
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I mean they cited an actual sex therapist who seems to agree with what the article says. I guess maybe some women prefer the danger element and others don't. But I was hoping you could answer my question - what according to you can normal dudes do, to come across as the bad boy type ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 07:26 PM
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How does one be without ego ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 07:23 PM
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Yeah and someone whose job it is to facilitate illicit encounters would have some insight about what makes those encounters so tantalizing. Here's an actual sex therapist they cited Sex therapist Sari Cooper says many women come to her troubled that their husbands aren’t ideal sexual partners. “Your best sexual relationship has likely been with the person who was most unstable and most volatile, but was very passionate,” Cooper says. “That’s like riding a roller coaster. That’s passion. But if y…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 07:22 PM
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Why exactly is it rubbish ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 07:11 PM
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Yes. Why ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 07:09 PM
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Your dick size and immediate intense chemistry are absolutely not relevant factors in long term relationships. Maybe. But like I've said again and again, that what I crave over everything else is the validation of masculinity that I would get from being the best. The craving for that validation is so intense that it outweighs any joys I'd get from a long term happy relationship. It will always be there, a hunger, gnawing away at my soul. So if I had to choose between getting that validation vs b…
/r/ExRedPill13/09/24 04:42 PM
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Err, thats literally what I said - that I DON'T have control over my emotions. Here let me walk you through this again. You said I can/should change my mind. I said that implies I can control my emotions (when actually I can't).
/r/ExRedPill13/09/24 02:33 PM
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Are you going to avoid all potential romantic interactions as a result? No, I'm going to 1) try to become as masculine as I possibly can 2) might get plastic surgery (still not sure if Im good looking or not) 3) tell every woman I date that I have this insecurity, and so I want her to judge me on the potential of whether I can be the best or not. So basically judge if my dick is big enough, or if we have some kind of incredibly intense chemistry or not. If not, I'd want her to tell me so I can w…
/r/ExRedPill13/09/24 01:50 PM
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Because you're too stubborn. No, that implies I have control over my emotions. go meet more people in real life. Alright then, I have a friend irl. She's really accomplished. Has travelled the world etc. Shes fearless af mostly and bold. We once got to talking about dick size (I dont remember how the topic came up), and she was telling me how girth matters more. She told me about how she'd hooked up with a dude while she was on break with her bf and he had a girthy dick. And later on told me how…
/r/ExRedPill13/09/24 04:32 AM
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Its not about want. I cant not believe the stories.
/r/ExRedPill13/09/24 04:13 AM
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Your point is that these stories are fake. I just don't believe your point.
/r/ExRedPill13/09/24 02:43 AM
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No.
/r/ExRedPill13/09/24 01:45 AM
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I think thats you stereotyping. All kinds of people come to reddit.
/r/ExRedPill13/09/24 01:45 AM
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Well you've been told like 50 times to start living in the real world, "Living in the real world", doesnt make you more masculine. Otherwise all the women who live in the real world would be too. The answer I wanted was a more step by step guide on how to become more masculine. Haven't really found it in the BluePill. According to the BluePill you don't need to be more masculine, just accept who you are. Fuck that, it won't get me the validation I crave. Only becoming masculine will.
/r/ExRedPill13/09/24 12:10 AM
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Well it sounds like you've made up your mind then About the offmychest posts being true ? Yeah. I still have hope that maybe theres a way I can be more masculine without resorting to the redpill. Maybe someone here will give me something.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 11:58 PM
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Cool
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 11:52 PM
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Something existing online does not dictate my outlook on life and my existence. What dictates my existence is the desire for validation. The stories online just give me perspective on how I can be emasculated and what kind of people get the kind of validation I crave. How do you explain that people who live in real life aren't terrified of reddit posts Honestly ? I feel like their minds aren't wired to seek out threats like mine are. They just go and do stuff, blissfully unaware of all that coul…
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 11:51 PM
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I’m curious, do you think people who post on those subreddits represent all types of relationships I think they do, atleast on the offmychest subreddit. Ive seen posts there of people saying just how much they love and appreciate their partners, or how they wish their partner wouldnt feel insecure etc. Posts from people who have cheated. Posts from people who have been cheated on. Good. Bad. Ugly. All kinds. When you think about the couples who don’t feel the need to post about their relationshi…
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 11:44 PM
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Maybe I do live online, but that doesn't discard the lived experience of the people posting. They live in the real world, and their experiences are real life.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 11:25 PM
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Learn to settle and you won't be alone. What a pessimistic outlook! I'd rather die than be settled for.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 11:24 PM
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Because the RedPill is (and is widely considered as) toxic, and Im afraid Ill lose friends if I take it. And I wish the BluePill had solutions for me like the RedPill does, instead of just pathologizing my desire. I don't want to take the RedPill, it just feels like nobody else is telling me how I can be more masculine than I currently am to get the validation I crave. It hurts that theres almost nothing there for people like me, except the false gods of therapy.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 08:45 PM
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I have not made up my mind. I'm still looking for whatever argument could save me from the RedPill. But what I want ks for people to atleast acknowledge that the RedPill considers my desires valid and the BluePill considers them pathological, and I hurt because of that.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 08:35 PM
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No, TrueRateMe is stupid. They give out absurdly low ratings. But even if people in pilled spaces spend a lot of time on the internet, I find it hard to believe that a huge amount of them roleplay as women, and that theyre any good at it. Meanwhile I can find lots of posts from accounts that do seen to be owned by a female person, talking about how their ex was toxic but they had chemistry and passion, but much less so with their current SO. I can believe one or two of these accounts to be false…
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 07:28 PM
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With that said just because there's some half-truths doesn't make the whole philosphy correct, I'll also reiterate this again, you're not helpless. But only RedPill offers help in the way of telling me that my desires for validation are valid and how to achieve then (by becoming more masculine, even if it feels inauthentic). BluePill just tells me my desire is pathological and to kill that desire via therapy.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 07:19 PM
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Personally I believe what is true based on evidence, not what makes me feel good. I base my feelings around the truth. I don't seek falsehoods that fit my feelings to give me comfort. I used to believe I was like this, but I am not. My emotions control me. Any rationality I have is instrumental. Don't say things like "women hit the wall at 30 and men lose interest in them I don't believe that shit, thats just sour grapes. The problem with the redpill isn't that might resonate with you personally…
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 07:15 PM
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Tbh I wish I had a guide for how to increase my masculinity and dominance. Like a step by step actionable guide, because adopt a more serious and unshakable demeanor, Im not sure what this looks like and how I go about adopting this. Would also love ideas for how I can look cool and badass and things I could to feel confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 06:34 PM
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Theres romantic desire and theres sexual desire. Usually the two overlap but they dont have to. Pure romantic desire is when you love someone even when you have 0 physical attraction to them. Pure sexual desire is when you lust after someone even though theyre toxic and you dont love them at all, but you still have an all consuming desire to fuck them.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 06:26 PM
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I mean Im p sure theres a study about how dark triad people get more romantic partners.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 06:19 PM
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But TRP actively makes relationships worse. It causes pain rather than preventing it. It's impossible to have a fulfilling relationship, even a casual one, if you see your partner as nothing but a sex hole Thats the part of TRP I disagree with. I cant dehumanize women like that (even though I know why they do it, rejection hurts if it comes from a human being, not so from an object). But the part of TRP that makes sense is the part which says you should become as masculine as humanly possible, a…
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 06:06 PM
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The point is that if youre going to drive a car, have a seatbelt. If you're going to seek out sex&relarionships, take the RedPill. Posted here hoping someone could show me why Im wrong. Because the RedPill is toxic. I wish a nontoxic variant existed that acknowledged that for some men validation is the most important thing they seek from sex&relationships, and it wouldnt pathologize this trait - just accept it and give us actionable steps to try and get that validation. Currently only the RedPil…
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 05:47 PM
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Sertraline. Paroxteine. Escitalopram. Fluoxetine. Fluvoxamine. Vilazadone. (Only sert and parox worked, only for a short while, only @ max dose, made me numb, if my emotions are an ocean then these drugs froze the ocean, so nothing moved, nothing was felt, I lost what little joy I had even for the things I loved) Buspirone (didnt work at all xcept random brain zaps, first med I got on. Been 10 years now) Clonazepam, Etizolam, Lorazepam (all the benzos Ive been on) Doesnt work for me.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 05:42 PM
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It should though There IS NO should. To me, based on what you've said in this thread, you sound like a scared little boy, not much of a man, or even an adult. I know, but whats important here is what makes me feel validated, what makes me feel emasculated. And how only the RedPill (so far that I have seen) considers how I feel valid. Hence why it makes sense to me.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 05:37 PM
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What about, say, being permanently disabled by those same things? If that happens Ill kill myself. Have a friend whos paralysed due to a spinal injury. Ivr seen how bitter he gets (if you think my case is bad, wait till you see him). 0 point to lifr as a disabled man. Suicide.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 05:35 PM
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Bro here https://www.reddit.com/r/offmychest/s/iFXz66oPUI found an entire post where women talk about how the best sex of their life was toxic and their currrent SO is not. Do you realise how emasculating that is to some men. BluePill tells us to get over it, that we just have to ignore the feeling or go to.therapy where they teach you stupid meditation or cbt that doesnt fucking work and youre still left with the same feeling. Only the RedPill acknowledges that a) this is emasculating and b) it…
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 05:32 PM
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Wait, how ?
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 05:28 PM
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Living life in fear is a curse I know. But I feel like the RedPill is like the seatbelt in a car.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 05:28 PM
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As in this could happen to ANYONE. You, me, anyone. Best to engarde.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 05:27 PM
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It's sad how you believe the made-up garbage that people write for fun on reddit. What bothers me is how everyone is dismissing this as made up. I don't think thats fair. Inconvenient truths have to be looked square in the face. Going off of your comments... you don't know how relationships work. Maybe I don't. But I just now found a post where many women are saying how the best sex of their life was with toxic guy and not their husband. I'll post it once I find it again. But they keep saying th…
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 05:22 PM
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Also, the red pill ideas for how to "guard" against it just produce miserable men. Not guarding against it also makes some people miserable though. I NEVER want to go through what that offmychest poster went through.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 03:06 PM
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No
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 03:05 PM
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If your long term relationship is based on 100% physical attraction then you're being settled for Disagree.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 03:04 PM
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Im just trying to explain how these fears and these intrusive thoughts haunt me.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 03:04 PM
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Many years ago when I was doing the Good Looking Loser challenge, I met a girl in line at the airport. I was nervous as hell but pushed anyways. Even though my voice was shaky, she endured it because we both had a shared interest in our destination. Then my worst fear happened; she mentioned she was 17 when I went for her number. I just politely thanked her for the pleasant conversation and boarded the plane. This was at a busy airport, with federal agents all around. And she didn't scream or be…
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 03:03 PM
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It is what it is. Its the hand I was dealt.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 03:00 PM
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then that makes you a bit of a coward, and by logical extension that's pretty emasculating Doesn't feel that way.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 03:00 PM
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I do
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 02:59 PM
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I think you’re forgetting how many bots there are on this website, especially in the comment sections of controversial posts. I dont think its bots. That many bots requires a lot of money and infra.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 02:59 PM
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Sounds like you have injested so much toxic masculinity that it's poisoning your whole life. Maybe. But the fear of emasculation doesn't go away. Not matter how much I try to tell myself that my thoughts are irrational. Maybe because at the end of the day, rational thoughts dont matter, only emotions do.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 12:44 PM
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:(
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 12:33 PM
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Everyone could worry that their partner settled for them, I'm honestly surprised that most people don't tbh. I have a v similar fear that if I have a child, thay child might inherit my anxiety disorders and turn out to be an unattractive person and suffer for it. Its why I never want to have kids. Whenever i see kids and their parents, I wonder if their parents ever thought things like this before deciding to have a child. How many of these parents will have doomed the child by accident of birth…
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 12:33 PM
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I don't resent women or even blame them. Everyone wants whats best for them, women included. I just feel like becoming the best (most sexually attractive) option involves adopting the kind of attributes that Red Pill talks about, like the Dark Triad for eg.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 12:31 PM
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Literally anywhere in public where you can meet new women. If I say this to.women on the streets I imagine she will scream for help and Ill get beaten up. If I do this in hobby groups, Ill be branded a creep and removed from the venue. If you want to be honest with women, you have to be honest with yourself first. That starts with your admission that you are too fearful with women to be in any position to make judgments about them. I can't make you go to a bar tonight, but I hope you at least th…
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 12:29 PM
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Why are you so terrified of experiencing life? I am terrified of being emasculated. Which is what being settled for feels in my head. The feeling that Im lesser than other men. Would rather die than experience that. Seriously, I would genuinely rather drop dead in this very instance than experience that.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 12:26 PM
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If your fear is still debilitating, even after putting in effort that is honest with yourself, the right thing to do is seek professional help from a licensed therapist. Either way, your fear is not anyone else's problem, but it means you have all the power. Already did it. Didnt help. The problem is that 1) not much treatment for social anxiety in my country where the concept of therapy is new and most therapists are still stuck to Freudian concepts or Albert Ellis. And as for doing graduated e…
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 11:59 AM
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So you only want one night stands / sex with no strings attached Pretty much. Edit: to be more accurate, I want those until I feel validated enough that I am found sexually desirable by women. And then Id like a relationship. One where Im not settled for.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 11:55 AM
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Being friends or having feelings other than sexual ones clouds atttaction. You don't know if they're attracted to you because they find you hot (sexual attraction) or they find you hot as a person (romantic attraction). I want to experience pure sexual attraction, and the only way to make sure it is that is to have a sexual relationship with 0 feelings.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 11:52 AM
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Do you not think women have the same worry from men they date? Given how many guys just swipe on everyone on dating apps I dont know what worry a women do have because Im not a woman and cant experience their lives. However I do think id they did share that worry, it would be rational.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 11:50 AM
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Friendships arent the same as sexual relationships. And in a sexual relationship, the only things that matter are how physically attractive a man is and how masculine (bold, outgoing, extraverted) he is.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 11:50 AM
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Settled upon.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 11:48 AM
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No, Its like listening to one statement from an oncologist and understanding WHY everyone has cancer. And to further extend that analogy, later coming across a book (TheRedPill) which talks about why everyone has cancer and its the same as what the oncologist said - so you trust the book when it tells you what to do to avoid getting cancer.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 11:48 AM
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It’s fair to dismiss a post as fiction when it’s obviously fiction. The post, maybe. The thousands of comments ? I dont think so.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 11:40 AM
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A car could hit you or a random brick falls on your head on your way to a date, are you guarding against that? It's a possibility after all. No, these things I don't care about. Death is preferable to being emasculated (which is what being settled for is). Being emasculated is what worries me. Sudden death does not.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 11:39 AM
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The point is I can't voluntarily change that. It doesn't matter how big my problem is, what matters is that I can't change how I feel voluntarily, no more than a man can will himself to be happy.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 11:38 AM
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I've already read Models. Tried following it, couldn't really get myself to be vulnerable in the way of flirting/asking women out. The fear of being seen as a predator is too strong. Plus I really don't know how to flirt or be funny. The clever lines and responses just don't enter my head. Especially when I'm afraid.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 11:36 AM
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The problem with things like emotional intimacy and love is that they can cloak over the fact that the woman does not desire you sexually as much as she did a hookup in the past. So you don't know if her desire for you is sexual or romantic. The only way to know for sure is as you said sex, but "with no emotional intimacy".
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 11:34 AM
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She's not every woman is a fair point, but she could be ANY woman is also a fair point.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 11:32 AM
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Do you avoid all roads due to the possibility of being hit by a car? I usually only use public transport lol, much less likely to die.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 11:31 AM
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Sometimes the fear is too paralyzing. And you get close to challenging it, and fail every time because its too strong. Ad the meds dont help because they kill your desire dead and make you numb.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 11:30 AM
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Also if it's so frequent, why is your only example a post from 4 months ago 🧐 I just didnt post all the other posts. You can go ahead and search for them. Heck, Ill post them here if thats what you want.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 11:29 AM
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No. I'm just trying to find anything I can to make that fear go away which makes me freeze up. The voice inside my head that screams that I'm a predator everytime I even think of talking to a woman.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 11:27 AM
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I bought it up because they said "just find a fuck buddy", and the "just" bothered me.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 06:23 AM
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I do doubt Red Pill creators. People like Tate etc are grifters.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 06:19 AM
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Sexual Validation is pretty much all that matters to me. If I cant have that Id rather not live.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 06:17 AM
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but then again I’m sure if you talk to enough people as well on the street we all know someone who’s been cheated on, or has been cheated on themselves. Which is why I think its rational to guard against it by never marrying and never having kids.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 06:09 AM
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Okay then I'll put it in a gender neutral way - the risk of being settled for exists (for both genders). Therefore it makes sense to guard against it.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 05:52 AM
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However, it doesn't mean it'll necessarily end badly. But you do have to guard against that risk though. Like, many women might not end up in an abusive relationship. But women are still encouraged to learn to watch out for the signs of one.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 05:50 AM
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Claiming something applies to the whole population has no truth unless it applies to the whole population. Thats fair I guess. I dont believe anything really applies to the entire population of humans. But RedPill is the only ideology that talks about how men can be settled for and how humiliating that is (atleast for some men), and how to guard against it. Its the only ideology that addresses this fear.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 05:47 AM
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Thats not a good analogy. The better analogy would be - trans kids commit suicide at a higher rate than normal therefore it can be extrapolated that many trans kids will commit suicide in the future.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 05:45 AM
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Thats fair. But I do worry that since thr possibility of being settled for exists, I.must do everything to guard against it.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 05:42 AM
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Hmm, that could be the case.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 05:41 AM
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The red pill makes claim they insist apply to the entire population Every ideology has SOME truth to it. I just feel (after rrading all those posts about women settling), that in this case the RedPill is true and the BluePill is not. Men are at a risk of being settled for and if this bothers them, they should guard against it zealously.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 05:41 AM
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Therapy doesnt really work for. I can honestly say that after 10 years and 6 different therapists and multiple CBT workbooks and ACT workbooks and so many types of SSRIs and Benzos.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 05:39 AM
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I think if some people make a choice, one can extrapolate from it that many others will too. Im not saying AWALT because thats a stupid generalization. But it does feel like MWALT and it makes sense to keep your guard up and focus on becoming the most (for lack of a better term "alpha") you can possibly be, even to the point of self destructiveness, just to reduce the odds of this happening to you.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 05:38 AM
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Doesnt work, because theres no sexual attraction on her end. No validation for me.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 05:35 AM
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I guess we're back to my first question then: I'm not sure why you made this post, if you've already found what you consider the most persuasive evidence and have made up your mind. Hoping somebody could give me an argument I hadnt thought of that would make me not believe.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 05:35 AM
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The point Im trying to make is that if its happened once (actually many times, this is not the only post), then the Red Pill does have some truth to it.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 05:34 AM
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The original poster would get upvotes and engagement. That person could be a troll. But a thousand+ anonymous accounts all chiming in ? That makes no sense. Those individual accounts dont gain anything. And I dont think the RedPillers have the kind of money and infra to create that many astroturf fake a/cs. The whole thing being fake would beggar belief.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 05:32 AM
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Again Ive said it here multiple times. The story could be fake, the many women chiming in the comments who take from this that the woman was cheating. The people who are saying it happened to them or someone they know. I dont think theyre lying. They have no incentive to lie on an anonymous forum.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 05:27 AM
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Priya says her husband is very physically attractive Yeah, but the way its portrayed, the other guy is more of the toxic alpha male that the Red Pill prompts men to be. And again she's an actual professional who talks to people who do cheat. Her insight would be far more incisive than a broad population based survey, because the survey can only give you the quantitative, but not the qualitative nuances.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 05:25 AM
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Sure. But even though I havent seen them all, by having seen a few of them I can conclude most have two eyes, two arms, two legs.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 05:18 AM
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By intimate I meant have sex with. And afaik its easier to find a relationship for men than it is to find casual sex partners or FWBs.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 05:17 AM
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Maybe.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 05:15 AM
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But lions do exist. Youve seen them. Makes sense to believe lions can kill you. Makes sense to be afraid.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 05:15 AM
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There are afaik no studies that have studied sexual attraction vs romantic attraction. And if you want to talk about infidelity, there's an article I read by Esther Perel. Here https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/10/why-happy-people-cheat/537882/ “Most descriptions of troubled marriages don’t seem to fit my situation,” Priya insists. “Colin and I have a wonderful relationship. Great kids, no financial stresses, careers we love, great friends. He is a phenom at work, fucking handsom…
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 05:14 AM
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If you think it's a rational fear, why did you post this ? I don't like the RedPill. But the more I see this stuff, the more I feel like it has some truth to it. I don't like the dehumanizing language it uses. But I do feel that the Red Pill is true to quite an extent. That physical appearance is the most important part of sexual attraction. That women can cheat so its best to not marry. That if men want to get lots of sex then they need to become as masculine as they possibly can, and learn to …
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 05:02 AM
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You see one post. from a guy. And the thousands of comments, many from women. Many many of them saying they've seen something like this unfold in their lives or the lives of their loved ones. Theres even a comment from a woman who said she lost a lot of weight and men started hitting on her and it really fucked with her head and made her crave that validation. It’s not even a realistic story. Like it’s so obviously some weird lonely dude jerking off while he’s imagining her coming crawling back …
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 04:50 AM
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Given the # of people commenting on that post saying theyve seen something like this happen, yeah I do believe them. The OP might be fake, but what do thousands of commenters get by lying on an anonymous forum. No, I do SERIOUSLY believe the post.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 04:46 AM
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Given the # of people commenting on that post saying theyve seen something like this happen, yeah I do believe them. The OP might be fake, but what do thousands of commenters get by lying on an anonymous forum. No, I do SERIOUSLY believe the post.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 04:46 AM
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Maybe. But what of all the comments saying the same thing, that they've seen this happen. I dont think thousands of commenters would lie. What incentive do they have ?
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 04:45 AM
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You are experiencing confirmation bias, which isn't unusual because we all have different cognitive biases we struggle with, and the pills take advantage of these. Maybe. But given the sheer # of such posts Ive seen (admittedy I was seeking them out because I'm paranoid about this but still) and the number of replies on that post repeating how theyve seen similar events unfold, I'd say its rational to be afraid.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 04:44 AM
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Do you think there are no guys that settle or cheat or leave their spouses Of course there are. But I'm not into sleeping with or having romantic relationships with other dudes, so their cheating doesn't really make me go towards RedPill ideologies. Do you think there are no happy couples because you were doomscrolling in reddit I believe that everyone is always looking for the best deal they can get and they'll trade up if they can. I feel that the happy couples just each feel like they can't t…
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 04:41 AM
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Thats the thing though, I want her to want me because she's irresistibly physically attracted to me. I'm not interested if she's into me because I'm kind or whatever else.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:29 PM
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you ll ruin your life like a drug addict chasing fentanyl or crack bro. I'm okay with that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 09:57 AM
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His earlier statement was very different and an insult. he is saying that the validation wont fill you, you may feel high for a while but then you ll crave it more and more until you became a slave of it like a drug addict of their drugs, Im okay with that. I just want to chase that high to death.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 11:35 PM
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You're putting you're entire self-worth on the opinion someone else has off you. That alone will prohibit you from achieving what you want to achieve This is confusing to me - youre saying that what I want to achieve will prohibit me from achieving it ? Like if I want X then I wont get X ? Wot ? You really should try out therapy 10 years, 6 different therapists. Setraline, Escitalopram, Fluoxetine, Fluvoxamine, Paroxetine, Vilazadone, Buspirone, Clonazepam, Lorazepam, Etizolam, Alprozalam. All t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 11:33 PM
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To each their own I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:28 AM
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Thats what Im trying to become. Thats what my life is all about, these days
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:27 AM
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For me, I'd rather become a Chad myself or die trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 05:38 AM
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Err, what ? You don't play with AF/BB, its a concept thats supposed to illustrate dating dynamics. So unless you're arguing that a man should not date at all, you'll always be playing with AF/BB.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 05:35 AM
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Its not just about feeling desired, but how desired am I in comparison to the guys in her past.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 05:00 AM
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You're taking men to task here for being insecure but guess what, insecurity is a good thing. No I'm not saying that insecurity is a bad thing. Just that the AF/BB fear is fuelled due to insecurity and need for validation
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 04:52 AM
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If you’re still searching for validation I don’t see you as someone who’s ready to date or able to be a good partner. I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 04:51 AM
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Even Chad has to put maximum investment to get Stacy to marry him and have kids he can only do the casual sex stuff with women who are below him looks wide. Disagree. Chad gets casual with his looksmatch.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 04:50 AM
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Nah, I think most people here dont lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 12:36 AM
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Thank you for the advice! I will absolutely do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 12:10 AM
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The problem with this argument is that some men DO sucessfully get a lot of casual sex. And when other men don't get that, it triggers self doubt and insecurity. If it was only about investment (grand gestures etc), then all those fuckboys wouldnt be getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 12:09 AM
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Lmao, a parody of my post!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 11:59 PM
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The woman who wants you more than anyone else at first sight, and the woman who wants you more than anyone else after 10 years will probably not be the same woman. I mean thats easy. To even get to 10 years she must first find me more attractive than other men on day 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 11:46 PM
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I mean if I'm balding and short then I'm 1) hitting the gym every damn chance I get 2) saving money to get surgeries (jaw implant, hair transplant, even a limb lengthening surgery) Although tbh in my experience short isnt that much of a problem. But Im also not North American, so ymmv.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 11:45 PM
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Yeah but the way I see it, you need to have both good looks (to get a chance) and not be an ahole (to convert the chance into sex). Tbh Im not sure what crying about "women chosing the best looking guy" achieve. It wont change what people are attracted to anymore than the Sun will rise from the South. Much better to make yourself attractive instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 11:33 PM
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I mean sure, but the moment she found out they got sent to the curbside. Looks help, but being an ahole kinda cancels it out dontcha think ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 11:28 PM
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Eh no, because for me, being compared to other men and being seen as more masculine is validating, and an ego stroke that feels so incredibly good. I crave that feeling. And otoh not having that feeling is painful + emasculating. Even if theres no fear of cheating/cuckoldry, the pain of emasculation still exists. Like suppose if she cheats on me with a guy who isnt as good as me in bed for whatever reason, Id break up with her due to the disrespect. But I wont FEEL cuckolded, because to me, that…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 11:25 PM
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Umm, how is this the power of looks ? Those men lied, or didnt tell her that they were criminals.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 11:16 PM
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I honestly dont agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 09:51 PM
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Aye, those are the things Im slowly working on. Ive started working out 2x a day and learning about fashion/style. Saving up money to buy quality clothes etc. Also figuring how to kill social and approach anxiety by staying out 15-16 hours a day 6xa week either working/studying or in social hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 09:45 PM
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women who mostly act the same. Tbh I dont buy this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 09:41 PM
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Aye. Im v limited tbh in the # of things I have to be the best in. Idc if Im not the funniest, the best cook, makes the most money, has the most social status etc. Only two things I want to be the best at 1) Physically attractive 2) Best in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 09:35 PM
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you can’t be happy with insecurity running your life. you’ll never be able to stop yourself from wondering “is she really telling the truth?” I disagree actually, Im p sure the "is she telling the truth" bit wont happen to me. And if for some reason it actually did, Id walk away and find someone with whom I dont feel it. Ive come close to having a relationship where I genuinely had 0 doubts that she would ever lie to me. Didnt happen due to distance. Oh well. But the idea that this insecurity is…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 09:32 PM
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If a girl isn’t all over me at some point during first date, then I just throw in the towel and don’t bother texting her back. That could be a useful approah. I think I'll borrow this. Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 09:18 PM
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There was a time when I obsessed over how much my cock was being craved and it kinda ruined the first relationship I ever had actually. Thank you for sharing your personal life story, that is actually quite interesting. However, I dont think this will happen in my case because I crave the being craved part so much, that not having that will ruin any relationship Id be in. So if I cant get that from a relationship, its not a good one for me. And nothing else the relationship could give me (compan…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 09:10 PM
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Not too much, because I have no other way to know if Im the best. If however I do find out later that Im not the best, Id leave immediately. I know its a hypothetical but if I found this out when she was dying of cancer or we had a child together, Id still leave asap and never talk to her again.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 09:06 PM
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Based on WHAT? You understand that the brains and hormones are gendered distinct RIGHT Doesnt mean theyre not complex. Its why different men can want diametrically opposite things. No, in fact make them want you more. No, I dont buy this. Afaik most women would not want to date a violent criminal. Some do sure, and those cases stand out and stick in your memory. But its not the norm. Same as how people worry about gun violence and not about dying in a car crash. We are talking about the most suc…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 09:05 PM
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Thanks I guess. Although I do wish you were less sarcastic about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 08:57 PM
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I dont need constant reassurance. But I do need it atleast once. Furthermore, you will truly never be happy if that’s your standard for a strong relationship I disagree with the above statement. I think I will be happy if I get the validation I crave.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 08:56 PM
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I agree. I never want a woman to lower her standards. Men who argue for that dont make any sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 08:55 PM
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Thats fine. Youre right I havent had sex. But theres.plenty of men who have had sex who think the way I do. Who absolutely need to be the best a woman has had before committing to her. So I dont think what Im saying is ridiculous at all. Its fine that you disagree, clearly you value different thing. But me (and Id argue that a large plurality of men) do value being the best theit partner has had, and the validation implicit in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 08:54 PM
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Normal people don’t make a hierarchy of all the people they’ve ever fucked and who was the best. They just focus on what they have now. Eh, I can show you threads from across the web where women have been asked if their husband is the best or exbf (and also who they lusted after more) and MANY MANY women said the husband isnt the best but that doesnt matter because theyre in love. So youre wrong about this. Many many women have said they did not marry the best sex of their life. Probably because…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 08:51 PM
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Do you think that you are relationship material here? The point of the relationship (for me) is validation, ie to be the best fuck material. The other things that you get from a relationship (like companionship) I dont value all that highly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 08:39 PM
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I mean once I know Im better than her exes, I wont worry.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 08:36 PM
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Dude, you got to let this go or you’re never going to have a normal relationship. I honestly can't. I'll either have a relationship on my own terms (where I am validated) or Ill just kill myself if thats not possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 08:33 PM
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Its not about whether shes sexually attracted to you or not. But more about the intensity of her lust and desire for you versus othet men in her past. Like a good example would be the Netflix show Sex/Life where the protagonists lusts after her ex far more than she does her husband. Nobody wants to be second best for their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 08:29 PM
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Not if I take precautions. I suspect I'll always have one foot out the door, in any relationship. That would be my way of preserving my heart, always willing to leave at the first sign that shes not as into me as she was into others.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 08:22 PM
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Im not even sure what you mean by that, but this feels more like an ad hominem. Id appreciate it if you discussed the issue as opposed to trying to insult me. Edit: I see youve edited your statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 08:14 PM
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Thats also fair reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 08:09 PM
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Lol, Ive had 'help' and that was fairly useless. Only thing that'll make me feel good is validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 08:08 PM
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Fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 08:07 PM
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Umm, I dont think its fair to generalize women that way. If men can be complex and varied (and they are), then so can women. criminals have more children Sure, but not all women will go with a criminal. In fact Im p sure revealing that youve been to jail will make most women run away from you. make leads of romance are glorified abusers Depends on the romance. Yes 50SOG dude is one. But the K-Drama dudes arent(in the Kdrama atleast). they show inclinations toward dark triad men Yeah but afaik th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 08:06 PM
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Thank you! I will certainly go after what I want, irrespective of what Reddit thinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 08:02 PM
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Yeah but the fear is that she finds the guy not AS attractive as the men she slept with instantaneously. But there are other qualities of the man she dates (kindness, empathy etc etc) that make up for it. Furthermore it becomes a bit of an epistemic problem because the men always wonder if she actually lusts after them as much as she did her hookups and ONSes. The only way to know for sure is to 1)be the guy who she sleeps with asap and 2)the woman tells him she lusts after him way more than any…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 08:01 PM
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For me, even though the rational part of me can recognize and acknowledge that it is black and white thinking... the emotional part of me that craves that validation cannot be overruled. So I'd say this limitation is absolute. Atleast for me. And prolly for other men also.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 07:55 PM
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Yeah, I saw women say they did. And give reasons for it to - (they liked him genuinely and didnt want to be seem as easy by him, versus the other guy who they didnt care if he hung around or not so they just hit it and quit it). I do find that reasoning believable. I just feel that even with that reasoning, my need for validation (which I get when she sleeps with me asap because to me it makes me feel like Im more of a man than her past partners) outweighs it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 07:53 PM
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If she just makes me wait until I introduce her to my family, put a gold ring on her finger and take her on a honeymoon when other guys don't have to I think women DO desire you if they're doing the ring & honeymoon thing. Just not in the way they desire the guy who didnt have to wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 07:50 PM
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Would you? Or is she interested on the other things that marriage brings like resources? I mean Ive seen women on this subreddit on similar threads say they absolutely desire their husband. And I dont think its fair to say theyre lying (they get nothing by lying on an anonymous forum). So yeah I do think you can be desired in a relationship, even if she made you wait. There's no such thing as desire for being kind. I disagree. Just look at K-Drama protagonists women lust over. A big part of thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 07:47 PM
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I hope you're not using "insecure and validation" as some kind of weapon to diminish men. Dont worry, AF/BB is something I struggle with myself. Id never diminish someone over it. I guess I just want to feel validated through womens lust for me. Would you like to be in a relationship with a woman who's meh about you sexually, OP Obviously not, but its more than just being into me sexually. For me, she has to be into me MORE than with any other guy in her past. Otherwise the thought of me being l…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 07:44 PM
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I mean, I dont intend to ever have kids or get married, so family court isnt applicable to me. Id still feel broken if a woman I liked made me wait but not some other dude in her past. And I feel thats because it makes me feel emasculated by questioning my desirability compared to the previous guy. So I cant agree that its all about men being mad that they were lied to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 07:39 PM
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But you would also be desired in a marriage or a relationship where the woman initially made you wait. I feel it has more to do with being desired in specific ways - like being desired for being hot, over being desired for being kind. And thus I feel its more about validation, because womens lust for us is what validates us.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 07:36 PM
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