Electrical_Sea_2741 Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

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3	Can I get your thoughts? Yeah, a lot of people don't get this, and it's true on a more subtle social level too. I'm not an expert, but it makes sense that the more our society is willing to accept men as victims of violence, especially domestic violence, the less shame and subsequent retaliation with violence.	/r/MensRights	13/04/22 04:05 AM
3	I think I may know one reason why conservatism is a popular outlet for those who are anti-woke/pro-male. Yeah, there's definitely frustration, but again I don't think it's "getting back" at women so much as grasping for some certainty. Many people in Gilded Age America pined for a world before mass industry. The changes they had experienced were so fast and so unsettling. That clock couldn't be wound back, but traditional conservatism seems to offer a winding back of the home life clock only, that clock that sets our relationships and home life. This seems very comforting. I've been trying for some…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	13/04/22 03:45 AM
-7	Why is this subreddit under so much hate? Look, like any feminist you simply don't care what feminism says or does, you'll happily support an anti-male hate group. So what more can be said? You've already formed your opinion, so I don't see much point in responding, but: I don't identify as a feminist. I'm not pro-feminist. I'm well aware that feminists have, at times, been complicit or active in developments that have held back men's wellbeing and men's rights (and I wish that more people who are feminists would have the guts to admit …	/r/MensRights	13/04/22 02:53 AM
-4	Why is this subreddit under so much hate? There is no possible way to address men's rights without dealing with feminism. I get it that feminism (especially certain expressions of it) isn't helpful for a lot of men's issues, is hypocritical and biased, and can even get in the way. Many men's issues are perfectly addressable with little more than an acknowledgement that feminism isn't helping. That's dealing with it. But anyone who takes a cursory view of the posts and comments in this sub would be given the impression that people here a…	/r/MensRights	13/04/22 12:55 AM
3	"A [Gen Z] Historian Explains Being Gen-Z" - extremely insightful and infromative breakdown of the various trends that plague our society with a very interesting perspective When posting a video, it can be useful to outline some of the main points in text form. It's a bit of a whistle-stop summary of lots of stuff, but I think he does a good job with the big issue of isolation, drawing on Robert Putnam's Bowling Alone and then extrapolating from there to the age of social media. I hope that men can be proactive in forming face-to-face social connections and groups as we come out of 2020-2022. There are lots of ways to form the nuclei for these, like board game get-t…	/r/MensRights	12/04/22 11:26 PM
11	Why is this subreddit under so much hate? This sub is like the rough draft to r/menslib Except menslib is explicitly pro-feminist, but maybe that's your only choice if you want to be seen as politically correct these days. I'd be happier if it was just feminist-adjacent or even feminist-interfaceable.	/r/MensRights	12/04/22 10:55 PM
4	Can I get your thoughts? So, in a no-doubt rare event, your local news station did a piece about male victims of domestic violence, and this person's first reaction was to derail? Did they miss the 100x as many items on female victims?	/r/MensRights	12/04/22 10:26 PM
6	Why is this subreddit under so much hate? Agreed that this particular sub functions heavily as a venting place. It's not unlike the super-angry wommyn's rooms of the 1970s, except (thanks to the Internet) everyone can come in and experience the rage. I think it's useful to view the various reddit subs for men (this, LWMA, menslib, etc.) as something of an ecosystem with a lot of crossover. They each have their eccentricities and biases, but menrights is the least moderated and most "open", so it serves as the primary venting place as we…	/r/MensRights	12/04/22 10:22 PM
30	I think I may know one reason why conservatism is a popular outlet for those who are anti-woke/pro-male. I don't think it's so much that men want to go back to a dominant role. Once you put on the rose coloured glasses, there's something very alluring about a functional (unjust but functional) machine where the two genders were like two cogs that locked together and worked. This is then compared to the discombobulating experience of being a free-spinning cog today.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	12/04/22 08:49 AM
10	Male on male rape in mythology and male weakness, and why men are more reluctant to changes when it comes to gender rules we all [k]now that cultural norms that has do's and dont's are destructive. I think you're drawing too long a bow here. Individual freedom is always balanced against what society will accept at any time. I think one of the reasons women through the 20th Century were more comfortable adopting traditionally male roles was because they still had sole access to a role that was uniquely theirs: motherhood. Imagine if early women's movements had coincided with the invention of an artificial womb (stil…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	12/04/22 06:50 AM
12	Men in 'Pink Collar' Jobs: "Men suffer from discrimination in the workplace too, especially when they're applying for roles in female-dominated occupations." OK, sorry for the confusion. I don't have any evidence on hand for the more general statement.	/r/MensRights	12/04/22 05:44 AM
25	Men in 'Pink Collar' Jobs: "Men suffer from discrimination in the workplace too, especially when they're applying for roles in female-dominated occupations." You don't think boys (and girls) should get the benefit of a mix of competent male and female teachers?	/r/MensRights	12/04/22 04:54 AM
103	Men in 'Pink Collar' Jobs: "Men suffer from discrimination in the workplace too, especially when they're applying for roles in female-dominated occupations." This matters because across the developed world, sectors that have been historically female-dominated, such as education and healthcare, have been growing considerably, and are predicted to continue growing apace in the years ahead. It also matters because job settings benefit from diversity. As was discussed in a recent post on this sub, the increasingly female-dominated nature of school teaching is not working out well for boys. The finding from this research should surprise no one, unless the…	/r/MensRights	12/04/22 03:23 AM
2	The narrative in the mainstream media is that women are the primary victims of violence in society but the most recent data says that surprise, surprise men are I mean, I get your point, but it all comes down to making feminism more popular for men, doesn’t it? And that a)will never work and b) really isn’t feminism’s job, is it? If not, then certain feminists need to stop with the claim that "feminism is for men too". If a movement really cared about making a particular group a part of their movement, they wouldn't insist on language that a large portion of said group has made very clear that they find offensive and unhelpful. It’s not feminists’ role …	/r/MensRights	12/04/22 01:42 AM
2	The narrative in the mainstream media is that women are the primary victims of violence in society but the most recent data says that surprise, surprise men are I'm not sure if you wanted it, but here's the issues I have with the term and why I believe you won't be able to win over this crowd with it particularly. "masculinity", in the way you just used it, is not understood universally as a social or cultural phenomenon. It wouldn't occur to most people to think of multiple masculinities. Many people without a background in gender studies understand "masculinity" in a much more vague sense to mean maleness or manliness. The term is even still used for …	/r/MensRights	11/04/22 11:37 PM
1	The narrative in the mainstream media is that women are the primary victims of violence in society but the most recent data says that surprise, surprise men are A "narrative" is a story being told. One of the most common ways mainstream media accomplishes this is by selection: what is mentioned and what isn't. This isn't new and is certainly not limited to gendered topics. As the line between opinion and reporting in mainstream media becomes more blurred, the problem is exacerbated. All they have done is taken feminism and reversed the poles. But that doesn’t work because male issues are different. I've long accepted that men's movements are not going t…	/r/MensRights	11/04/22 11:17 PM
2	The narrative in the mainstream media is that women are the primary victims of violence in society but the most recent data says that surprise, surprise men are OK, it sounds like we agree overall, but you feel that the wording of OP's title doesn't capture it properly. We probably disagree on what constitutes a "narrative". As for MRAs, if you want to say that subs like this contain too many outrage pieces about single instances of god-awful violent women, I agree. If you want to say that there's too much about blaming feminism for everything that happens to men, I agree with that too. Many male advocates prefer to talk about victims rather than perpet…	/r/MensRights	11/04/22 10:57 PM
6	The narrative in the mainstream media is that women are the primary victims of violence in society but the most recent data says that surprise, surprise men are I can't imagine the point of an article making the general claim that women are the primary victims of violence overall. Articles tend to focus on more specific things. I've laid out how I think the narrative is formed - through what features over and over, and what rarely or never features. There's certainly articles and opinion pieces claiming that women are the primary victims of war - never the reverse. Intimate partner and domestic violence is a focus of media attention in my country right …	/r/MensRights	11/04/22 10:47 PM
7	The concept of benevolent sexism and hostile sexism is ironic and flawed, respectively. Look at the Ambivalent Sexism Inventory. In my country, old fashioned chivalry is a huge, unacknowledged engine in the fight to reduce violence against women. It's sickening to see the way politicians draw on that old, "benevolent" motivation to get both men and women on-side while making male victims invisible. It seems impossible to me that feminists aren't aware of this phenomenon, so I often wonder if they approve of it inasmuch as it helps bring attention to one of their causes, or whether they are uncomfortable with it but go wit…	/r/MensRights	11/04/22 10:39 PM
4	The narrative in the mainstream media is that women are the primary victims of violence in society but the most recent data says that surprise, surprise men are I would say the narrative is formed from what is reported or commented on, and from what isn't. I don't have a statistical analysis. All I can say is that my experience of mainstream media is swathes of articles about gendered violence centre on one particular gender combination - female victims and male perpetrators. There's almost nothing that considers any other combination through a gendered lens (and yes, that includes male-male violence). Articles about male victims of, eg. domestic violen…	/r/MensRights	11/04/22 10:28 PM
5	The narrative in the mainstream media is that women are the primary victims of violence in society but the most recent data says that surprise, surprise men are See the title of the post.	/r/MensRights	11/04/22 10:15 PM
13	The narrative in the mainstream media is that women are the primary victims of violence in society but the most recent data says that surprise, surprise men are So why is this news? It might be worth asking all those feminists and queer theorists that question, if they've been talking about it for so long. It shouldn't be news, and yet it is. I could count on one hand the number of articles and opinion pieces in my local mainstream paper that point out that the majority of victims of violence are male in the last year, amid hundreds of articles and opinion pieces and about female victims.	/r/MensRights	11/04/22 10:08 PM