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The difference is they’re complaining about dating, not loneliness in general. Men are statistically more likely to report being lonely when single because they rely more heavily on romantic relationships to fulfill the majority of their social needs and connections.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 12:35 AM
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If there was a “female loneliness epidemic” I wouldn’t think it was because men weren’t giving women enough attention. I would think it was because female friendships are suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 10:23 PM
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All the evidence points to the fact that men aren’t providing enough support/friendship to each other. I don’t see how it has anything to do with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 05:16 AM
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If that’s the case I don’t understand why the male loneliness epidemic would have anything to do with women? The fact that women aren’t as lonely just points to the fact men likely aren’t providing enough meaningful support/freindship to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 05:14 AM
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You sound very emotional and hysterical.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 04:30 AM
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It’s a microcosm of what sex work is and always has been. Ask yourself why male sex work isn’t as common, lucrative, discussed, or shamed. Sex work as a concept is demeaning to women as a whole because it is a manifestation of how women's bodies/sexuality is ultimately viewed. It’s viewed as a commodity women can sell and men can receive. Women having sex is disproportionately viewed as something degrading and ‘work’ that happens to a woman, and not something consensual that happens with a woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 04:28 AM
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My comment isn’t directed towards the original post or intended to add to that discussion. I honestly can’t work out specifically what OP means. I think I need an example to understand. The comment I’m replying to just reminded me of the tweet I saw which I can’t stop thinking about because it was so absurd, I wanted to bring it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 03:48 AM
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Here’s a clear example of why it’s exploitative: https://m.lindaikejisblog.com/2021/5/prostitutes-now-accepting-beans-and-maize-as-payment-for-their-services.html
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 03:33 AM
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I remember reading a story on twitter about how a white man was immediately fired first day for referring to a black customer as a n word. Someone replied with “yeah but if it had been a black man who said it he’d still have his job” Yes because that completely redefines the context of the situation. It’s not double standards, it’s just altering the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 03:30 AM
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Almost all the statistics you have here are very false. In reality, the statistics between men and women aren’t actually that varied, for example 16% of men haven’t had sex in the past year and 12% of women. Women actually have a lower number of average sexual partners in comparison to men. In general the younger generation (gen z) has a lot less sex on average than the previous generations, including boomers. A lot of what you wrote here is not backed up by any statistics except your own imagin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 05:49 AM
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Wish you were my brother! I would have avoided so many awful experiences had I just realised this earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 05:32 AM
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This is why it’s objectively a bad idea to enter a long term relationship with someone largely/solely because of their appearance. I understand wanting to be attracted to your partner, but who commits themselves to someone for years because of something as superficial as abs, or boobs or any other body part? That’s just a bad life choice on all fronts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 05:30 AM
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I feel like it’s mostly projection. More often than not a lot of the qualities they dislike in older woman are actually qualities they are insecure/dislike in themselves. Rejecting women their own age and only dating younger is just a convoluted way to avoid the realities of the ways age has changed them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 05:23 AM
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Wtf are you even saying. Do you people listen to yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 06:42 AM
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Unless you back up what you’re saying with anything of substance, you may as well be basing that off pure vibes. This sub is supposed to be a debate, you can’t debate something subjective that someone hasn’t even attempted to back up with evidence. There’s not even an argument here to straw man because there is no actual argument here to back up anything he’s saying. Here’s just stating something as if it’s a fact. I can say “people tend to smile more in Ohio than North Dakota”. That’s not an ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 06:40 AM
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Bro idk? I don’t speak for all women. This is just a weird question to even try and speculate on. You’re gonna need to be more specific about your definition of ‘assholes’ and a ‘cucks’. There’s no way to definitively answer this question, it’s just senseless.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 06:13 AM
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I believe you, but also why are we pretending this is an argument worth debating? “Women respect their shitty ex”. “No we don’t”. This is not interesting or productive discourse lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 04:57 AM
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Literally how can anyone’s reaction be anything else! Nothing that they said is based on anything. How are we expected to engage in an argument about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 04:47 AM
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This is actually so funny because how is any of what you said relevant to my comment? This is exactly what I mean! You’re just saying complete dribble as if it’s fact, how are we even supposed to engage with this?? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 04:43 AM
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Pretty sure I didn’t. I acknowledged what you said in your comment. My point is it’s pointless to engage with an argument that is purely based around how someone feels about something.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 04:39 AM
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Sure but isn’t this sub supposed to be a debate at least? How is this worthy of debate? It’s just a guy saying his opinion based purely off his emotional interpretation. He’s not providing statistics or presenting a logical argument based on facts. He’s asking us to debate his feelings he’s presenting as facts with no evidence to back it. It’s all just so ridiculous and pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 03:46 AM
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Again, you’re just making up shit based on pure vibes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 03:40 AM
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The same rules DO apply for women. It’s immoral for a woman to lie about her career to a ONS. It’s NOT immoral for them to lie to end a conversation with a stranger who’s approached them. It just exposes your entitlement if you think those scenarios are in anyway equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:41 AM
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The difference is it’s illegal to sleep with someone under a false identity. It’s recognised by law. There is literally nothing wrong with the first two lies. They’re lying because they’ll say anything that disengages with them the fastest, leave them alone! Are you actually suggesting people are entitled to knowing the relationship stays of strangers in the street that want nothing to do with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:37 AM
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“Women tend to remember and respect men who caused them emotional distress, rather than those who genuinely helped improve their lives.“ I swear 90% of this sub is people framing absurd speculations as facts based off pure vibes and emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:27 AM
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I don’t think it’s bad advice. I was on the apps for years but all three of my relationships were from people I met through friends or in person. People are also just less judgmental in real life because you have more data to judge someone off than the superficial. There’s also just less pressure when you go on a date irl with someone you’ve already met.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:21 AM
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Almost 40% of women out earn their husbands. The percent of women being the majority earner in a relationship is increasing overtime, with the 38% figure in 2015 up from less than 25% in 1987. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/38-percent-of-women-earn-more-than-their-husbands/
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:14 AM
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Did you get that statistic from 1960?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 01:59 AM
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I thought the statistic sounded way overblown. As always if a statistic sounds fake it probably is. I’m sure there are people on tinder who are in a relationship/married but in general it’s going to be a very low percentage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 12:53 AM
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The situation is only ever tempting if someone is willing to risk their relationship and isn’t completely repulsed by the idea of cheating. You’re right that someone in a relationship should avoid putting themselves in situations where they would be tempted to cheat. But if someone is in a happy relationship the idea of cheating should never be tempting no matter who or what the situation is. If my partner cheated on me it would make no difference how “tempted” they were. The betrayal is that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 12:21 AM
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I agree both the cheater and the side piece are to blame and guilty. But in the vast majority of cases the cheater is always more to blame since they’re the one who has the responsibility of remaining faithful. In situations like Ariana Grande’s recent scandal involving a married man, I think she deserves the amount of criticism she’s received, since she’s shown it’s a pattern of hers. In general though, the person who’s cheating with someone is only half as guilty as the person who’s actually c…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 10:21 AM
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I’m curious what the average age of this sub is because I know for a fact anyone under 25 associates that song with Lana del rey, even though she only covers it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 09:32 AM
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As much as I hate home wreckers, I hate cheaters a lot more. I don’t get why the headline here isn’t that a lot of married men don’t let their wife get in the way of them finding a girlfriend? If someone is looking to cheat, they will cheat. If 8 women beforehand rejected them because they had an issue with dating a married man, it’s not going to stop them from pursuing the 9th.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 06:55 AM
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Valid argument where? Where is his response to my valid argument that being kind or giving someone a compliment is not lying? Is it a ‘personal attack’ to mention that women giving each other compliments obviously has no bearing on his life unless he somehow believes women valuing themselves is to his detriment or is it not just a valid point?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 11:36 AM
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This is exactly what I hate about so many of the arguments and discussions on this sub. I’ve seen it so many times where someone will cite a study then follow with some absurd conclusions not even remotely relevant to the data they just referenced about how it proves women are the root of all evil. I’ve seen posts here cite studies that women are more likely to be obese (even though men are more likely overall to be overweight or obese). Then use this data to make an absurd claim like that women…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 02:42 AM
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You need to look inside yourself and really think why this bothers you so much because it makes no sense why anyone would care in the way you do unless you believe women complimenting each other has some impact on you. Why is women giving each other compliments bring about such strong feelings in you that you feel the need to write paragraph’s on it and pretend as if it’s some evil? We both know it’s not that deep and really has nothing to do with you. It’s clearly because it bothers you to thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 02:26 AM
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Men on this sub don’t see the irony in them constantly complaining about male loneliness and how men don’t receive compliments while also trying to equate women giving each other compliments as dishonesty and lying. A women telling another woman she looks pretty today is not lying. Choosing to see and acknowledge a persons good qualities and traits is not lying, it’s the key to being a kind person, choosing to focus on the good in someone. You’re behaving as if how you feel about someone’s appea…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 01:12 AM
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I can’t speak for other women but I personally have a lot of difficulty rating people’s attractiveness using a 1-10 rating. I’m not saying this in a virtue signalling way. I just find it really difficult to define something like attractiveness that is so qualitative into just a numerical rating. I tired of seeing people behave as if their rating of someone is some objective measurement and undeniable truth when in reality it’s largely just their subjective opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 12:43 AM
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They’re just losers
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:16 PM
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I hate people who play dumb and act like adulthood is a binary. As if you reach 18 and you have the same wisdom, maturity and life experience as someone in their 40’s. Yes 18 is technically an adult but they still have a lot of growth, maturity and life experience ahead of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:17 PM
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Do you know that definition of binary? It’s not just a term people use for gender you know…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:16 PM
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Adulthood is not a binary, stop playing dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 07:52 AM
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Adulthood is not a binary. Do you honestly believe someone18 is so much more mature and wise compared to someone 17 years and 10 months. Get real, stop playing dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 07:51 AM
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I hate people who play dumb and act like adulthood is a binary. As if you reach 18 and you have the same wisdom, maturity and life experience as someone in their 40’s. Yes 18 is technically an adult but they still have a lot of growth, maturity and life experience ahead of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 07:48 AM
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I also wouldn’t date male version of myself, not because I think it’s too unattractive but because it looks nearly identical to my brother
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 01:52 AM
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K
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 03:50 PM
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Lol no one wants ur help tf? I never “demanded” you to? You’re delusional. You need therapy
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 03:44 PM
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Tf is with the title of this post though? I can’t believe people are seriously engaging with it.
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 02:56 PM
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Lmao you’re clearly seething over some particular girl who choose some over guy over you, didn’t want you and are taking it out on all women. I can assure you I have never “screamed in men’s faces that I do not want men, do not need men, and hate their guts” I have a happy, healthy relationship with my lovely kind boyfriend of over two years. I don’t need protection, and the last place I’d go to is some man I don’t know, how many women have ever asked you for protection? I know you’re going to t…
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 02:55 PM
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Lmao, don’t worry women are well aware we can’t count on men. Men are the reason women need protection in the first place.
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 02:40 PM
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Idk why is gender even being brought up in this scenario at all?? I’d call the cops if I saw any kind of physical assault in public. It changes nothing. It doesn’t matter if I saw a man attacking another man, a woman hitting a man or two men fighting each other, i’d still respond the exact same way and call the police.
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 02:29 PM
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“Basic human decency” do you actually believe women are obligated to give you sex? That their right to bodily autonomy is depriving you of “basic human decency?” you feel entitled to? What is wrong with you?
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 02:23 PM
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Bullshit, men definitely get put off when women are too forward and ask them out. My male co-worker asked me once if our mutual co-worker was single cause he thought she was attractive, I said i'd ask her. She told me she was single, and i let her know he was into her, she liked him too. Later that day she asked him if he wanted to go out for a drink after work, since she was a very confident outgoing girl. He flat out rejected her and said he had other plans. When I asked him why, he said somet…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 05:41 AM
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“Women themselves who are flooding TikTok bragging about their sexual liberation experiences.” Tf? What side of TikTok are you on? I’m not seeing anything like that on TikTok. I feel like people forget that what they’re seeing on TikTok isn’t necessarily a reflection of the general zeitgeist, it’s a reflection of the content you engage in or what the algorithm has determined you will engage with. Even if the content you’re seeing has hundreds of thousands of likes, it’s still likely only seen by…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 07:32 AM
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I don’t deny the data but the conclusions TRP men draw from the data often just isn’t supported by it. “men have a 0.5% chance of getting a match on tinder therefore only a fraction of men are having sex” isn’t a logical or well supported conclusion. Even ignoring that tinder profiles aren’t equivalent to the entirety of people’s sex/dating life’s. There are a myriad of factors that influence this statistic, the proportion to men vs women on the app, the number of inactive profiles. Even the stu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 02:28 AM
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Okay, Calvin Klein, go off sista.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 01:01 PM
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Genuinely, go cry about it. I'm going to spell it out for you cause no one else will, welcome to the real world. No one cares about your little complaints and issues cause you're uncompelling and your whiny problems aren't important. This is life without patriarchy on your side. Welcome to the reality. Women and minorities have experienced this for centuries.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 12:56 PM
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I just don't understand why men on this sub talk amongst each other as if "women prefer tall men" is even realistically up for debate at this point. There's always going to be people who will point out very specific scenario's of the exceptions to this rule but women in general don't deny they prefer tall men. In fact I see women being very upfront about it and making jokes about it all over social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:45 AM
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Honestly, I'm not trying to engage in a debate, this is just my genuine reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:39 AM
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Thanks for that detailed and well thought-out response!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 10:48 AM
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Why're you choosing to post cringe if you predict that's the response bro!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 10:22 AM
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Women in general prefer taller men in the same way men prefer slim women with larger tits. We're not gonna bring out a measuring tape on the first date to check you're actually 6ft, in the same way, men aren't going to make sure she's actually a size 2 and a double D.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 10:17 AM
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Why are men behaving as if women in general aren't super direct and open about our preference for tall men? It's like saying "men prefer slim women with big tit's", there's going to be some men out there who claim they've slept with women with small tits or prefer thick women but it doesn't mean anything in regards to the overall beauty standard. The same goes for women preferring tall men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 10:10 AM
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As a woman, I don't get what you mean, who is denying this? The idea women, in general, prefer tall men is pretty much general knowledge at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 10:00 AM
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Cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 09:55 AM
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As a 5ft tall woman as you can imagine my requirements for how tall I want my boyfriend to be aren't that high, I briefly dated a guy who was 5'6-5'7 who claimed he was particularly short and I didn't even notice. However, I can imagine there is something very unattractive about dating a man that's shorter than you, It's probably how men feel about the idea of dating an obese woman. I've noticed subconsciously that a big part of my sexual attraction towards men is attached to how they are physic…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 09:52 AM
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As a woman I’m actually really confused by what people are referring to by the female-only spaces that commonly exist in our society. I’m not denying they exist, it’s just the only female-only spaces and groups in my everyday life that I can think of are bathrooms and sports teams, but these both have male equivalents.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 01:37 AM
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I don't believe that it's nearly all women, most women learn from experience and maturity which men to avoid dating. Just because almost every woman has experienced dating 1 or 2 douchebags or seriously flawed men it doesn't necessarily place them in the same category as repeatedly choosing toxic partners. A lot of people out there are seriously flawed and those flaws are the most amplified in an intimate relationship. People often don't show the full extent of their flaws early in a relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 07:32 AM
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Next time you see a decent woman constantly choosing guys that treat her like trash despite having better options, just look at her childhood and it’ll all make sense. Humans are often driven by subconscious desires and are unknowingly self-destructive when it comes to relationships. People often mimic the relationships modelled to them in childhood. They will also choose a partner that mirrors the traits of their most difficult parent so they can have another go at repeating the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 04:59 AM
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Also, is it even true that girls in highschool only like jocks, guys in bands, skaters etc? I found that the guys girls liked in highschool were just the attractive, well liked guys. They could be smart, sporty, creative, be in theatre or have any interest they wanted but generally they were just good-looking and likeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 09:48 PM
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Dating apps are by nature very superficial. It’s difficult to not judge people based on superficial factors like looks when it’s the only piece of information you’re receiving. You can try and express your personality through them but since 80% of communication is non verbal it’s really difficult for people to accurately judge someone’s personality or to showcase your personality on these apps. It’s why they’ve been so detrimental to the dating scene. They’re not designed to be deleted they’re d…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 01:45 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 03:47 AM
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It could just be that for whatever reason you attract women that want a hookup/something casual and not that women in general want a hookup/something casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 04:39 AM
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That's insane to me. None of my female friends want a hookup/something casual. They want an exclusive relationship or nothing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 04:36 AM
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Number 4 especially baffled me. I've had 3 exclusive boyfriends and if my partner hit on another woman I'd have been done with that relationship so quickly or at at the very least have one foot out the door. I know my boyfriend is attractive and desirable because I find him attractive and desirable, not because random women hit on him. Women know that men in general receive less attention from the opposite sex unless they're initiating it. It doesn't matter how attractive a man is if he's in a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 04:35 AM
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I actually don't believe the idea that people cheat because their partner is falling short and they don't care about their partner. People cheat because they're greedy. There are so many examples of people cheating and getting caught and doing anything in their power to win their partner back because they don't want them out of their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 03:59 AM
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I also feel like men and women just need each other in their lives to be more balanced and well-rounded people. We all need a balance of the masculine and feminine, it's why things get unbalanced and toxic when there's too much of one energy and not enough of the other. I'm not sure if that makes sense, I didn't really explain it well. This is not a comment on homosexual relationships btw, which can also be very healthy for one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 03:55 AM
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It's becoming more and more clear that a lot of redpillers are just using this as an outlet to project their own insecurity and bitterness onto women. He's basically trying to argue she's entitled for not wanting a partner who cheats, it's absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 03:48 AM
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There's a lot of insecurity and bitterness in this comment. It doesn't matter how 'perfect' someone is no one who's willing to lie to and cheat on their partner is worthy of that faithful partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 03:45 AM
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I don't think she is at all. Most of my female friends, like myself, are also inherently monogamous and wouldn't give a guy the time of day if we suspected he was seeing other women. In fact, In my life, I haven't known many women at all who are down to have a fwb situation or who partake in casual sex just for casual sex's sake. I believe most women inherently desire an exclusive monogamous relationship and the ones who are willing to accept something casual are the exception. One of my friends…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 03:41 AM
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jfc, can we please not so that cringe-boomer thing where we compare a human being and a relationship to an object like a car? It's not equivalent or some smart metaphor. Believe it or not, men are capable of being in love and having emotional attachments to their partners. Most men don't see their partner as a piece of machinery they can simply replace without a second thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 03:32 AM
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I literally don't know a single guy who is unhappy in their relationship, it might just be my age group, I'm 23 most of my friends are 22-25. All my male friends in relationships are a lot happier and more at peace than my single male friends who spend their weekends at clubs getting drunk/high hoping to get laid and constantly complaining about how they want a relationship but don't know how to meet someone good.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 03:26 AM
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But imagine meeting someone who makes you want to spend the rest of your life with them and letting them go because you want to still have meaningless hookups. You talk as though a good partner and relationship is easy to come by and you can just hop into one whenever you feel like it, it doesn't work that way. It's so rare to find someone who you not only love and get along with but who you can build a life with. My advice is whatever age you are don't let that go for something superficial like…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 03:20 AM
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I don't understand why people believe men and women don't have the same level of options for a monogamous relationship. Yes, women definitely have an easier time getting casual sex than men do but when it comes to a committed, monogamous, relationship men and women have the same amount of options and level of success.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 03:08 AM
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Has it ever occurred to you that women are simply less likely to make an offensive joke on accident? Women on average score higher than men on agreeableness and neuroticism which influence social behaviour. It means women are more likely to be overly cautious of what they say, are people pleasers and are more conflict-averse and sensitive to avoiding situations that may result in conflict. It's partly why women earn less too, because were less likely to ask for a raise/promotion. Not to mention …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 03:03 AM
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I feel like people's bias comes through here. Whenever I do see the odd post of a woman shitting on a specific man for their appearance on tik tok etc, I see endless comments from men and women calling her out for it. There may also be comments of support from other women. But you could say the same when men shit on women's appearance, there will be comments from men supporting him amongst the backlash. I don't believe women are free to comment unprovoked on men's appearance and get away with it…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 02:43 AM
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I'm a woman and I would think another woman is a nasty bitch if she went into detail about why she found a man physically unattractive "he's obese", "he's short" etc. You're allowed to have preferences but I dislike it when people feel the need to voice them and put someone down for something they can't control. It comes across as really childish and shows a lack of compassion. I wouldn't have the same reaction if someone went into detail about why someone's personality is unattractive "he's arr…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 02:35 AM
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Yeah. It’s also needs to be acknowledged though that their false hope isn’t out of thin air. These guys are rarely upfront with their true intentions. They will consciously or even subconsciously string them along. I’ve never been in this situation myself so I can’t speak from experience but I’ve had enough friends who’ve been in this position to know how it works. “I’m still getting over my toxic ex”, “I’m not ready for a relationship RIGHT NOW” are the common lines used when the conversation a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 10:35 PM
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Yeah pretty much, my point is though, you can't use male standards for sexual partners and apply them to women's, they're not equivalent. I feel like men often take women not wanting to have sex with them more insulting than they should because they equate it according to their own standards; a woman would have to be quite unattractive for a man to reject sleeping with them. Women simply don't value sex as much and will even reject men they know are more attractive than them if they sense they'v…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 01:04 PM
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Like I said it's not that women necessarily feel too good for men their range or even that they think they're more attractive than them. Unlike men, women are more likely to rather simply not have sex than only have sex with partners who they don't find attractive or someone who is not willing to commit to them. It's not something exclusive to human's it's seen throughout nature. Biologically females are the sexual selectors. Women can have very limited offspring and the childbearing and labour …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 11:08 AM
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Men will sleep with women they wouldn't date. Most men are not willing to see past a woman's weight when it comes to a relationship, just because they're willing to sleep with her doesn't mean they respect her, it just means they value sex. There are tons of stories about how overweight women have been used by men for sex but never taken out for a date and sworn to secrecy because the guy was embarrassed to be seen with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 05:56 AM
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It doesn't really work like that cause men will have sex with women who are willing even if they don't find them that attractive. Women are just a lot pickier about who they'll sleep with. It's not about women believing most men are less attractive than them, it's about women naturally being the sexual selectors and not valuing casual sex in the same way men do. I've rejected men who I believed were actually more attractive than me, it's not a judgement of their appearance it's because I could t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 05:50 AM
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The problem is that because society has normalised "it's complicated" relationships and not put labels on relationships, they don't realise it's never going to be anything beyond sex, so instead they stay in these relationships in hopes that one day he'll be ready to give the commitment they desire. You're right, they'll never get the relationship they want with these men even if we normalised commitment. However, if we normalised commitment more, they'll be able to move on from them instead of …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 05:35 AM
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I 100% agree, In my opinion, I think women's sexual liberation and liberal feminism is partly to blame for this. Women from a young age in our culture are now bombarded with messaging that having a FWB or an uncommitted casual relationship with a man is empowering. It's really confusing for young girls because women aren't able to have casual sexual encounters and not develop feelings like men can. I think they often start out casual from the woman's perspective too but along the way they develo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 05:27 AM
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That would only be hypocritical if those same short women then had an issue with tall men who don't want to date short women. Hypocrisy is when someone judges others for behaviour that they also exhibit. If we consider it hypocritical for short women to want to date tall men then we also have to consider it hypocritical for a man to not want to date a woman who weighs the same as them, we have to consider sexual dimorphism. There are studies that show similar to how women prefer men who are tall…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 05:09 AM
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No? I never said having dark under eye circles were unattractive. I actually find them quite striking and adds dimension to a face when they’re permanent not from tiredness or being unhealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:35 PM
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That article is talking about the average starting salary. Keep in mind peoples salary grows throughout their career. College graduates with at least a bachelor's degree earned a median salary of $80,444, when considering data from all college grads in the US, not just recent graduates. https://www.thebalancemoney.com/average-salary-information-for-us-workers-2060808
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:14 AM
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These girls are mostly college grads or actively pursuing a degree, though. The median income for college grads in the US is around 62k. People often compare themselves to their immediate social-economic group, not the averages of their entire country.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:03 AM
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Yes, but the median income for those with a bachelor's degree or higher in the US is 62k. People often compare themselves to those within their proximity, not the US as a whole. If they're college graduates 70k is around average income.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 06:09 AM
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Why are we acting like 70-80k is a lot? I just got a grad job after getting my bachelor's last year and I'm making 60k my bf is two years out and is making around 75k. 48% of US citizens make over 75k a year, it's actually a pretty average income.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 05:59 AM
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When men's hairline is starting to recede. When they workout enough to have some muscle tone but still have a decent layer of fat on top so they don't have abs and a bit of a belly. I like some cushioning. I want them to look like they workout at least 3 times a week but still enjoy pizza, pasta, and beer.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 05:48 AM
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Some people have permanent dark circles, not cause they're unhealthy but because what looks like dark circles are actually shadows cast by eyelids and hollows under the eyes or melanin that concentrates around the eyes. They're more common in certain races like Southern Italians or Southeast Asians.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 05:37 AM
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Men will fuck any woman who is nearby no matter their class, sure, but dating and marrying are not the same as sex. Successful, well-educated and wealthy people marry and date people at a similar level because they want someone who can keep up with them, it's easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 01:10 AM
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I feel like if visual is the only information available women's attraction is similar to men's but I definitely notice women's attraction overall is more holistic than men's. I'm not saying that women are less shallow there are plenty of equally shallow traits that influence women's attraction like earnings, status etc. Men's attraction is definitely still influenced by other factors and women still value appearance but I feel like appearance is more so the defining factor for men's attraction t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 01:01 AM
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You're kidding yourself if you believe those dudes hitting up single mothers online want anything more than an easy fuck. Many know this and feel it's the last thing they need in their lives, that's why a lot of women ignore horny dudes in their DM's.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 12:48 AM
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You get no pussy cause you’re an asshole. Period. Go cry about it idc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 03:15 AM
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You're not a nice guy. There is no need to say you're nice when you're actually nice. this comment reeks of arrogance and bitterness, who would want that energy in their life? Do you honestly think you deserve to be labelled as a good person simply because you don't insult or abuse women? That doesn't make you nice, that is literally the bare minimum. No one else is to blame for your lack of dating success, stop externalising your dissatisfaction with life. Take accountability, you're simply not…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 01:54 PM
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Yeah, that makes sense, you seem to have a similar view of it as I do. That's how my friends and I pay for things "I'll get this one, you'll get the next". You seem like a pretty level-headed and logical person which I'm sure is how most normal men perceive the idea of paying on the first date. I still feel the need to offer to pay during dates because I don't want them to think it's an expectation they pay. I think it stems from having internalised both 'red pill' discourse and ironically and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 01:39 PM
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There is literally no proof genuinely kind, secure and respectful guys do bad at dating, In fact they're usually the only guys who can get a healthy long-term relationship. This is a narrative you told yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 04:00 PM
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My bf of two years paid for our first 3? dates I think. Now we split everything and use Beem it to make it simple. Idk how relationships where the bf pays for everything work. I personally would hate to feel like I’m indebted to my partner. I want to feel like a team.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 03:26 PM
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My mum was the breadwinner, earning double what my dad did before she had her third baby (one severely disabled) and didn't work for 8 years. She went back to work but was never able to earn as much as she used to and my dad became the breadwinner and he was an excellent provider. I think we need to acknowledge the reality that childbearing/rearing biologically will always fall more on women, it's just the nature of it. It's extremely difficult for children not to heavily impact women's careers …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 03:16 PM
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My bf, much later told me it made him worried when I kept offering to split on our first date because he thought it meant I wasn't into him and didn't want to feel like I owed him, which surprised me to hear. I ended up letting him pay anyway cause I find it awkward to keep doing the back-and-forth for too long.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 03:03 PM
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Of course, you'd think all men look the same on dating apps. Dating apps are just a surface-level depiction of someone's superficial traits. People are a lot more complex and varied in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 02:53 PM
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That’s bullshit and you know it. Just look at r/niceguys and you’ll get what I mean. I’m talking about a very specific type here who think they’re nice but don’t behave nice in the slightest. Actual kind people respect boundaries and don’t use manipulate guilt-tripping tactics when they don’t get what they want. Also: I’ve never heard a person say they’re nice when they’re actually nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 02:25 PM
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Right? I'm 23. All my friends in happy long-term relationships are with respectful, kind, mature and stable men including my own boyfriend. My boyfriend's friends who are the perpetually single types are the more vulgar misogynistic types. Then there's the third category of self proclaimed 'nice guys', not to tbe confused with the respectful, kind, mature men. These men consider themselves nice guys but struggle with dating because they're simply not that nice, they weaponise their kindness. For…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 10:42 AM
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It comforts these types to externalise and blame their dissatisfaction with their love life on their appearance because everyone else is shallow and entitled. It's actually a much harder pill to swallow that their problems stem from them not being a person others want to be around. Or that the only way to meet someone is to actively seek opportunities for socialisation, make an effort with co-workers, volunteer, join local clubs, take up hobbies, make themselves uncomfortable, and actually put t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 10:25 AM
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I don't believe its as simple as women just up and leaving if it takes longer than they expected for them to find work. I believe it's the increase in stress and arguments that come along with men's long-term unemployment that impacts a marriage. I know it's antifeminist to say but I think women being the sole breadwinner isn't a sustainable long-term in heteronormative relationships. I think men begin to feel emasculated and resentful of their wives and women grow contempt towards their husband…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 08:22 AM
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You're making so many assumptions here about my love life based on one sentence. What do you mean why am I briefly dating men? Not every person I've dated became my serious boyfriend. Everyone has to date someone first to find out if they're suited for a relationship. Why are you assuming I 'gave it up' the first few nights wtf? I haven't slept with every guy I've dated. Some guys I went on 5 or 6 dates before we both agreed it wasn't going anywhere. Also, why are you assuming I haven't been sin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 07:22 AM
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I think it really depends on the length of unemployment. My dad got made redundant from his job after working there for 16 years. My mum was much calmer than he was she said her business and the severance would keep them afloat for the time being. She advised him to take a break from working after he was back looking for new work within a day. Within a month he already had a new contract and was earning pretty much the same. It had no negative effect on their marriage but I suspect if my dad was…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 01:10 AM
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"Though the strength of association varies significantly by how long ago the change in employment status occurred." The study was also done based on terminations from plant closures. It's a very specific type of layoff because plant closures often devastate communities because there aren't as many jobs within these areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 01:05 AM
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It's pretty damn uncommon for someone to leave the instant their partner gets laid off. Especially since most people receive a severance package and have a new job within 3-6 months.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 12:58 AM
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Lmao, I can assure you it's not. I was diagnosed with acute social anxiety at 13. I avoided socialising at all costs. I moved schools because after I was bullied at this age I became practically mute and would panic every time I was spoken to. I was always a shy kid, socialising did not come naturally to me. The only way I got over this period of my life was by making an active effort to befriend people that wouldn't judge me. I know what it's like to feel like entering a social situation is jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 12:55 AM
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I definitely don't doubt that people who avoid socializing had many negative social experiences and retreated to gaming as a way to cope. What I don't agree with is the idea that there's no chance of them ever having a positive social life anywhere and that they might as well spend their life playing video games or that they wouldn't benefit from having a social life. The fact that a lot of people, men especially, collectively deal with this issue is enough proof that the issue is a lack of mean…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 07:28 AM
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I think a lot of the discourse around bodycount gets confusing because no one defines clearly what constitutes a high bodycount. A lot of women, like myself, who’s bodycount sits within single digits and consists mainly of guys we’ve briefly dated or ex boyfriends assume that a high bodycount is referring to us or any women with a sexual history. That’s why we’re inclined to roll our eyes at the discussion and put it down to insecurity. I feel like a ‘high n-count’ is just a confusing way of say…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 03:16 AM
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Lol what? You’re clearly coming at this from a very bitter and emotional place. Having a social life benefits everyone. I don’t believe gender plays a role in how important social health is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 02:55 AM
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I don’t think anyones saying they’ll instantly get a gf. It depends on what activities they replace gaming with. It’s more that for those who are addicted the time being spent on video games replaces other activities/hobbies that get them outside, allow them to meet people etc. Video games are very sedentary and are often done in a dark room. I believe it affects appearance in more than just one way. It also negatively affects self-esteem and confidence. I don’t think you can generalise that guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:59 AM
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I think playing video games and being addicted aren’t the same thing. It’s like how millions of people can drink alcohol and it’s not an issue but for alcoholics it destroys their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:44 AM
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I partly disagree. I think video game obsession often begins in early childhood. It often even begins as a social thing cause they can talk with friends on headpieces etc. I believe being inactive in early childhood effects future attractiveness not just body strength but facial development, skin health etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:07 AM
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What women are asking 'Why are men insecure about how much they make?' it's not exactly a foreign concept to us either. Even women are insecure about how much they make, it's part of being in a capitalist society it's why it's rude to ask someone that question.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 01:09 AM
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I don't want to have to worry about going back to work as soon as possible after having a child. The first few years of a child's life are important and I want to be able to be there for them without worrying about finances. Also, I just don't want to have to constantly worry about finances in general. I don't need my partner to be a millionaire, just have a decent enough job and income to live comfortably. I still want to work but I want us to both earn enough where were financially stable and …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 01:03 AM
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I think it's partially because as you said, they're female-dominated industries and also because (I know this sounds stereotypical) most male cheerleaders and stewards are gay. I think another influence of why stewards and nurses etc go for men adjacent to them with more earning potential is because while these jobs are super important, they're gruelling without much pay or earning potential. It's not ideal to raise children as a steward and a single steward's income is barely enough to comforta…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 12:12 AM
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I’d argue they’re of the same status and require the same level of discipline and athleticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 01:36 AM
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I think you’re confusing cheerleading at football games to actual competitive cheerleading. Competitive cheerleading often requires incredible athleticism. It’s basically gymnastics with a bit of dance thrown in. They perform stunts that are often performed in Olympic gymnastics routines. They have to be able to throw round offs and handsprings etc. Like gymnastics it’s popular with women because it requires a lot of flexibility, balance and agility that women often naturally have more of. It’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 12:23 AM
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It also might kill them
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 12:11 AM
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Most people in the real world know this and do value fixing someone they enjoy being around over superficial traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 12:05 AM
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I agree status is attractive, but isn’t secretaries banging their bosses and stewards sleeping with pilots not mainly due to these jobs often being dominated by opposite sexes? If you put two people of the opposite sex in close quarters they’re highly likely to eventually sleep with one another. Also, aren’t cheerleaders and the quarterback not of the same social status? Both are athletic and likely to be popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 12:01 AM
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I think you’ll have a hard time finding a woman who is going to disagree that status isn’t an attractive quality in a man and higher status men won’t have better luck with women. However, most women marry and date men of the same social status. To say status is the only driver of attraction feels a bit disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 11:53 PM
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I think status and charisma can often go hand in hand
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 11:44 PM
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Also with the height thing, a lot of us don’t realise it’s not actually that important until we meet a guy we like who’s shorter. As a girl who’s 5’1 I generally don’t have a good gauge of what different heights even look like. A guy who’s 5’8 could tell me he’s 5’10 and I’d believe him. I didn’t really become conscious of guys heights until hinge. But that made it an abstract number to me and I decided that anything under 5’8 was too short. Then I went on a couple dates with a guy who’s 5’6 and…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 11:42 PM
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We also just don’t value sex in the same way men do. Most men are down to have sex with a 5, she’s attractive because she’s a woman who wants to have sex with him. Women aren’t automatically down to have sex with a guy who’s a 5. It’s not necessarily that we think we’re out of his league or that he’s unattractive. We need to value him also for his his other traits not just his physical appearance for us to want to have sex with him/date him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 11:22 PM
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I’m going to sound really fucking arrogant but I feel the need to say what I assume everyone else who’s come across this post is thinking. Please don’t write long winded posts that waffle on about nothing like this! If you can’t get your point across in less words you either don’t fully understand what you’re trying to say or you’re lacking in necessary English skills. To put it bluntly this post just says a whole lot of nothing. Not every thought that comes to you needs to be a reddit post.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 12:48 PM
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Trans women are trans women. They should have their pronouns respected but their experience is not equivalent to natural born women. I can’t relate to the experience of being a trans woman and a part of the lgbt community. Similarly, they can’t relate to the experience of being biologically a woman. It doesn’t make them not women, just doesn’t make
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 12:24 PM
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Female is a general term for living things that are biologically female. Women are human female’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 11:55 AM
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Back when I was single and dating I often was ghosted by guys, ghosted guys and even experienced mutual ghosting. It’s just how it works, you don’t always receive a comprehensive explanation why because often there isn’t even one to give, they just weren’t feeling it on their end.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 11:50 AM
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“I replied to one of her Instagram stories of a selfie few days after the ghost saying you can delete this now I've seen it“ I know you may have been joking but still wtf dude, no!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 11:44 AM
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My assumption would be that they simply didn’t enjoy that sexual act. For example maybe they did anal and it was an overall negative experience so they don’t want to try it again. I wouldn’t be offended, it has nothing to do with me. I don’t see why men should assume any different, people don’t usually only reserve kinks for certain people, it’s more likely that they tried something and didn’t enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 11:42 AM
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I know you’re probably joking but it’s still a meaningless distinction all women are also females, even in modern society.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 11:33 AM
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I know it’s not the question but why specify “female women” aren’t they synonymous lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 11:31 AM
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I started allowing myself to date the type of guy I truly wanted to be with, instead of the type of guy I thought I deserved. I have a history of dating losers, alcoholics and jerks because I subconsciously felt ‘safe’ with them. I dated guys with huge flaws because it freed me from feeling judged for my own flaws. When I first met my current boyfriend I felt really uneasy because he was so smart, attractive and kind and I felt it was only a matter of time before he realised how flawed I was and…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 07:14 AM
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The “if he wanted to he would” is actually helpful for women who are in situationships and hold onto false hope that he one day will want a proper relationship. They’ll often make excuses as why he isn’t but in reality he simply doesn’t want a relationship with them. But yeah I agree that it’s not always true when it comes to guys who just aren’t confident enough to ask the girl they like out. Me too is about exposing serial sexual assaulters and rapists. Anyone who makes sure their sexual partn…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 09:13 PM
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Of course, nothing should ever be assumed without verbal consent. My point is don’t let it stop you from making a move. As long as you get consent by asking if they’re okay with it, no one’s going to get offended. If it turns out they’re not comfortable, they’ll let you know and there no harm done.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 09:01 PM
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A lot of that comes down to proper verbal communication of consent when or before making a move. Simply saying “is this okay” while or before making a move like undressing someone or touching an area you’re not sure if their comfortable with makes all the difference. When I was 18 and a virgin, I was invited to a small “party” by my friend and her boyfriend’s friends were there who were a bit older. There was was only about 8 people there and I was set up with one of her boyfriends friends who w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 09:13 AM
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Why would you assume she should be married? People don’t get engaged these days until their late 20’s early 30’s. My bf and I talk about marriage and what our wedding should be like but I’m 23 I don’t want to get married until I’m at least 28. We only just left university we don’t have the means to have a wedding even small ones are super expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 09:45 PM
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This isn’t necessarily true in my opinion. A few of my guy friends have confided in me about girls because I’ve been in a relationship for a really long time. They often are really into a girl but won’t make a move because pretty much they’re too nervous and unsure if she likes him back. It drives me crazy because a few times I know the girl cause she’s a friend of mine and she likes him and thinks he’s not interested because he’s not making a move. Sometimes guys are just lacking a bit of confi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 09:41 PM
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This is half true but also unfortunately women won’t ask you out or be forward because we’ve been taught that this behaviour is desperate and sad. There’s also this idea that “if he wanted to he would” which is true in some sense but isn’t true for guys who are a bit shy and unsure. I have this guy friend who recently got his first girlfriend but I had to train him through the whole courting process. Her friends told him she liked him and they were texting all the time, but he wasn’t sure if he …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 09:31 PM
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Why did you never call me back implies they called doesn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 09:18 PM
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This is textbook solipsism syndrome. You have somehow convinced yourself that one of the most common human experiences of being in love and in a relationship, something that most people experience, isn’t real.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 07:43 PM
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Their lives will only confirm their mindset but only because of their mindset. It’s impossible to have something you don’t believe its possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 07:37 PM
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Why are you acting like this is some pipe dream fantasy, what he described is very attainable, in fact most people can and will have it. My parents have it, both my grandparents had it and I currently have it. Wanting to be in love and have someone to love is a pretty attainable desire. I don’t just mean the abstract concept of love I’m talking about the proven chemical state of love that most humans will experience. It’s why we form close attachments to our romantic partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 07:29 AM
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Yeah I think OP made this question really confusing because the law in regards to marriage isn’t gendered, there’s also same sex couples. Both parties owe the same things to each other in a marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 04:42 AM
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My friends who are picky about height and won’t date a guy under 6ft are both really insecure and shallow. I would never set them up with anyone because I know they’re also a bit of a nightmare in general. Sometimes it is just a matter of a tall woman preferring to date a guy that’s at least taller than them. But often overall if people have a problem with your height you’re dodging a bullet anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 01:29 AM
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That’s just sad, as a 5’1 woman myself I don’t get having a height requirement. It’s just such an unimportant thing to care about especially when you consider all the other traits a guy can have that will actually matter in a relationship. Being a short woman can be used to our advantage in that it doesn’t matter as much how tall a guy is. We can date attractive shorter guys who taller girls won’t because the height difference bothers them. It doesn’t matter for us because they’re still a good f…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 01:18 AM
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Yeah, I think people are misconstruing “owed” to mean what you’re legally obligated to provide. Rather than what your morally obligated to provide in regards to fairness and human decency.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 12:46 AM
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For some couples, no. Overall, I think every couple needs to decide for themselves. I think what is universally owed in a relationship is the same as what we owe to all people, respect, kindness and compassion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 12:44 AM
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Responsibilities towards children are easier to define and more universal (provide them with food, education, safety). What’s owed to each other in a romantic relationship is somewhat up to each couple to define themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 12:40 AM
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I’m tired of people on this sub denying or forgetting that love exists and is a powerful emotion and motivator in humans. People don’t just marry or date in terms of what the other provides for them, love is a powerful drug that makes us see ordinary people as amazing. Humans are capable of developing strong connections and deep feelings for each other’s beyond superficial gains. We’re predisposed to develop strong attachments to our romantic partners. People aren’t replaceable, what we love abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 12:30 AM
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This doesn’t apply to my grandparents. Both sets of them seemed to really love each other and marry for love. I do however think it’s a bit sad how much my grandmothers lives revolved around my granddads. Neither worked and they pretty much allowed my granddad’s to make all major life decisions. One of my granddad’s died pretty young in his late 50’s and my grandma lived until she was 90, that would’ve been so hard. She never left the home he died in.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 12:02 AM
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I agree except for the point that a man increasing his income will vastly improve his dating prospects over the guy who improved his appearance. Women still value men’s appearance it’s just not the sole indicator of value like women’s appearance is. (It should be noted I’m talking in very shallow terms here, obviously I don’t believe peoples appearance/income is a measure of their value). I think both men would improve their dating prospects but it’s likely they’d attract different types of wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 11:53 PM
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Women began entering the workforce almost a century ago, so you can’t really say it’s the sole reason for the state of the economy now. In my opinion extreme capitalism and uncontrolled hoarding of wealth is largely to blame for the current state of the economy and inflation. When the richest 8 people can have as much as the poorest 50% of the population, you’re going to have problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 11:34 PM
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I only brought up Adriana Lima because of his point that 10’s are only 10’s because of makeup. Obviously Adriana Lima is an extreme example but aren’t “10’s” supposed to be rare and literal perfection? I bought her up because she’s someone I believe most would agree is exceptionally beautiful and a “10”. Also I believe it’s clearly her natural features that make her that way, not makeup. Turns out I was wrong because this guy went on to write that he think she’s a 7, and looks like a man with ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 11:26 PM
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Sure but it’s not as if men had it easy then, they had to be sole providers for their wives and children. Having double the workforce increased the productive capacity of the economy. As more women joined the workforce, it helped make cities more productive and actually increased wages.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 11:17 PM
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My friend worked in engineering for a big mining company and hated it, mainly due to the culture. He was earning a lot but he couldn’t imagine doing it for the rest of his life. He changed jobs to a startup that’s developing tech he’s really interested in, he took a slight pay hit but it’s still good money and the culture is a lot better he’s actually excited to talk about his job now. My point is sometimes the answer is just a different job. You’re lucky Engineering is such a hireable and sough…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 11:05 PM
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Most people want to surround themselves with people who have great jobs and love them because they want to be like them, not use them or take their money. Unfortunately, even though a lot of my friends have good jobs and promising careers for their age. Similar to me they don’t “love” to work or their jobs. I can say I’m at least passionate about the area I work in, it’s the career I chose after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 11:00 PM
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Exactly, often it’s only asked because it’s something you should know about a possible friend/partner. When I started university I asked people I met what school they went to because I thought it was an icebreaker leading to where their from and if I know anyone who went there. One of my friends said it might come across as an elitist question and I was scoping out how wealthy they were. That never even crossed my mind! I couldn’t care less about how much money their parents had I just wanted to…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 10:52 PM
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This is honestly just a very chronically online take. Obviously posed photos of her are going to look different to close up selfies without makeup. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lokFoo_QD8c Videos give a much more accurate gauge. She looks like the same person without makeup in videos. She doesn’t suddenly not look like herself because she doesn’t have a bold red lip be fr.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 08:49 AM
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Those are obviously going to be extreme examples. Think of the women you know, it’s not like they completely transform when they have makeup on, you’re still able to gauge where they stand on an attractiveness scale. Lots of makeup can make women look worse, men hate when their girlfriends wear “birthday makeup”. I actually really deeply disagree, women who are really attractive like young Adriana Lima are so because of their natural features. Have you ever seen caked on makeup irl? It looks awf…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 08:32 AM
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Makeup can only enhance beauty if it’s already there to begin with. Makeup makes attractive women look flawless, average women look slightly prettier but makeup does nothing for features that are truly unfortunate looking. People aren’t incapable of assessing someone’s natural attractiveness just because they put makeup on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 05:37 AM
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Outside of it being immoral it was also completely illogical to not allow women to work, vote and contribute more to society than their wombs when women were completely capable. Even back in hunter gather times women still had an extremely important role. Not just because gathering made up 80% of tribes caloric intake. The idea that men and women had strictly defined Hunter gatherer roles has been disproven for decades now. In fact in many ancient tribes women did hunt. Religion was the birth of…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 03:51 AM
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This is so true. I’ve been in three serious relationships with men and if I think back to the first few dates I got a very different impression of their personality and who they were in comparison to their true personality. I’m sure the same can be said about me. For some reason when it comes to dating people have a tendency to subconsciously hide themselves or present a different front. Even in comparison to meeting someone new that you only wish to develop a friendship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 03:35 AM
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Do you not also have bias though? I can’t take people seriously when they say “this gender is x” you’re talking about 50% of the population I can almost guarantee that generalised statements about half the human population isn’t true.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 03:29 AM
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Idk if I agree with this, I’ve noticed often that outgoing, funny people often date someone with a similar personality and boring people often date other boring people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 03:25 AM
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The money one is definitely true but it’s not spoken enough about how it’s also a bit of a double edged sword. There’s this study done about how obviously men’s dating pool increases the wealthier and successful he is but the same can’t be said for successful, wealthy women. In fact in certain cases it actually decreases the more successful they are. It’s a positive in terms of women’s dating potential not being impacted by earning potential but the downside is that women’s dating potential is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 03:22 AM
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Dude, I never said they were victims! I actually have a similar opinion of them to you. I think situatuonships are insane. I’ve never actually been in one but I’ve heard enough horror stories to know their messed up and often come away thinking “does she have any self respect!”. I really don’t wanna judge though cause I don’t know the whole story. I don’t blame the men because often they were at least being upfront but again, I don’t know the whole truth and every situation is different. I just …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 12:21 PM
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Bahaha, okay honey.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 12:14 PM
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Yeah trust me, I’m not too defensive of him to say he’s a loser in that way. He has absolutely every opportunity in life and repeatedly makes the most self destructive choice, not just in his romantic life, in every aspect. It’s likely a combination of deep insecurity that he tries to mask and an undiagnosed personality disorder. He’s always been a difficult person he was just born that way. I’ve given him so many chances and empathy. Family is family but there definitely comes a point in life w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 12:12 PM
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Exactly! It’s not talked enough how toxic mother and sons relationships can be. We often acknowledge that fathers idealise their daughters and think no man is good enough no matter how obviously untrue this may be. But for some reason as a society we gloss over how common this is with mothers and sons, only it becomes more toxic because this dynamic isn’t squandered in the same way it is with fathers and their daughters. They both actually get away with believing it. My boyfriend has probably on…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 12:03 PM
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I agree, I respect my parents opinion, their smart and great people but I don’t take it as gospel because I’m an adult with my own life. I’m sorry I don’t care how good someone claims their parents are, if you’re an adult and you blindly follow your parents opinion, you’re a bit of a loser and I mean that wholeheartedly. Your parents can be the greatest person on earth, they still don’t know what’s best for you since they’re not you! Take some ownership of your life. If you’re parents are really…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 11:48 AM
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Definitely not in the examples you originally gave. Dangerous jobs like logging, trades and construction aren’t chosen ‘to get women’. They likely follow that career path because they had the skill set for them and they’re more suited to them over a desk job.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 11:33 AM
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This narrative that single women over a certain age are evil or miserable has been spewed time and time again since the dawn of religion. It’s as outdated as witch-hunting. Single men over 40 are by no means more desirable or pleasant. They have the exact same options lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 10:03 AM
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That’s not relationships though, you’re talking about the opposite, that’s remaining single until your 40’s. I’d also argue being a single man in your 40’s isn’t necessarily any easier for men. Unless you’re Leonardo DiCaprio, it’s a shit dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 08:33 AM
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I agree a little with the idea guys mistake lust for love. Women definitely do it too, but I think the male equivalent of dating someone bad for you out of lust it isn’t discussed enough. My brother has this habit of choosing women with emotional/mental health issues and trauma. He’s also a bit shallow, he’ll choose women with obvious cosmetic alterations and are also often young single mothers. It makes no sense because he’s really smart in a book sense at least. He goes all in absolutely idoli…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 08:29 AM
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It’s a narrative they tell themselves because it’s easier to believe all women are evil than to accept that women don’t like them. Not because they aren’t rich or good looking enough but because they’re just not someone people want to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 08:06 AM
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I don’t believe either gender has it worse when it comes to relationships. I think people that believe one does other the other just have selection bias. I could counter your points by saying I’ve seen my female family members be cheated on by their husbands but stay with them because they put their careers on the back burner to take care of 3 children. Head over to a female dominated subreddit and you’ll find women are tired of being expected to help pay the bills while also doing all the house…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 07:21 AM
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I feel like I always hear the opposite. That women just want relationships and men just want sex. In reality, what I’ve gathered is both truly desire someone to share their life with and love but women really want to avoid being with the wrong person by any means. We both also get horny and want active sex lives but men in general just get hornier more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 07:06 AM
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Right? Like if we’re looking at our friendship groups as a sample of everyone our age then everyone in their early to mid 20’s are in longterm relationships and are expecting and hoping to marry the person they’re with. The friends we choose to hang with are often in some way a reflection of ourselves, it’s not just random selection. They’re always a bit skewed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 06:49 AM
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This could also be slightly skewed because women are often told to never say ‘I love you’ first in a relationship. I’m not really sure why this is but I don’t want to come across as clingy and scare them off. I also think women develop a strong defence mechanism to not catch feelings before we’re sure we won’t be left. I think it’s because we often get played by ‘situationships’. I don’t think women are capable of sleeping with someone and doing things couples do without catching feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 06:18 AM
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Of course, but I don’t agree that people who end up in ‘bad’ jobs do so purely for sex. For the most part people end up in jobs because it matches their skill set and they need money to survive. Not to mention they need independence and a purpose in society. A teacher or a nurse aren’t exactly jobs people tend to enjoy everyday or are easy, especially a nurse. But women still dominate these industries because they tend to have the natural skill set for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 06:08 AM
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I agree going to clubs for sex is not necessarily women’s main goal as much as it is for men. However, meeting men is definitely a huge driver whether subconsciously or consciously. I noticed my friends in relationships rarely ever go out clubbing in comparison to my single friends. Ever since I got in a relationship I haven’t had the desire to go clubbing once. If I want to hang out with friends I’ll go somewhere with them we can actually have a conversation. Even if it’s subconscious I can ass…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 05:51 AM
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They were not the smartest people. I don’t feel bad about saying that cause they aren’t kind either.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 05:37 AM
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Lol exactly, the last thing I want in life is attention from men I don’t care about, it’s not flattering, it’s uncomfortable. I’m pretty sure most women would agree. I think men sometimes don’t understand the feeling women have of being physically vulnerable. Which is fair enough, they’re not in a woman’s body. But It’s why we get scared, uncomfortable and combative when we receive unwatered male attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 05:35 AM
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I looked it up out of curiosity and almost no museums cost more than $25.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 09:33 PM
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Where though? I’ve been all around Europe, never seen a museum that was more than $25 entry if not free.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 09:30 PM
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There’s nothing in his post that suggests the women are necessarily after his money though. I got the vibe that they didn’t immediately fall at his feet because he has a Porsche and it bothered him. It’s likely they just aren’t that impressed by wealthy, not that they don’t understand the cost of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 09:21 PM
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There’s ways around this though. I knew this family in highschool, the four of them lived in this shoebox apartment that they didn’t pay rent on because the grandpa had bought it back when they cost nothing. They both had working class jobs but they were obsessed with appearing wealthy. They always tried to butter up to the rich families who saw through them. They were able to save up and bought an expensive new Mercedes’ with cash. It stuck with me because I always thought it was weird they dro…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 09:18 PM
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This guy is just bothered that they didn’t immediately fall to his feet because he owns a Porsche. There’s nothing to suggest these women are even after his money.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 08:58 PM
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I got the vibe from this post that the women he’s taking out aren’t all that impressed or wowed by his money and it bothers him. “Why didn’t they immediately suck my cock when they saw I had a (120k) Porsche?” lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 08:56 PM
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Why are you assuming that a woman who wants attention from a man doesn’t care about him?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 08:51 PM
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99.9% of people on earth do their jobs for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 08:48 PM
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What do you think motivates women to go out clubbing, on dating apps, to get all their body hair lasered off? If you think libido isn’t motivating for women you haven’t met a teenage girl with a crush. I think people sometimes mistakenly think that because women aren’t the one’s asking men out because of gender roles that women aren’t doing anything necessary to find a man or thinking about it constantly. Women are only pickier because it biologically makes sense. Men’s libido is driven more by …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 08:47 PM
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Then why is the government taking away abortion rights? It’s already been established that birth control isn’t foolproof. If the government is taking away access to abortion they should also be willing to support the children born from parents who aren’t in a position to properly take care of the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 12:46 AM
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The minimum wage in the US is criminal though, the poor are not looked after properly in the US compared to other first world countries in my opinion. It’s not enough to just give poor people a little money from the government, it’s about putting systems in place that gives the lower class better pay and access to education. It’s not surprising poor communities in the US stay poor since their access to good school’s are limited by their area code. Not to mention there’s no chance of affording te…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 12:30 AM
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No, my current boyfriend had never had a girlfriend before me when we met, he was 22 and I was 21. He's attractive, kind and successful so there was no real reason for it. From knowing him more it made more sense why. He was just not willing to force a relationship with someone he didn't have a strong connection with. I only had two relationships before my current boyfriend but in both there was this feeling that we weren't really compatible, but I was ignoring these signs because I wanted to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 03:58 AM
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I agree the 'believe women' narrative is super wrong and often twisted; no one should be immediately assumed innocent or guilty before a proper investigation. However, this term came from the idea that every sexual assault case deserves at least a proper investigation instead of being swept under the rug, either because the accuser is assumed to be lying or the person they've accused is presumed innocent.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 03:47 AM
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Paper abortions make sense, and they are legal and work in countries where governments give more financial support to single parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 03:30 AM
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I disagree; men should be entitled to paper abortions so long as the government is willing to support those children financially should they require it. Children that exist are entitled to be supported by society as a whole, not the entirety of the burden falling on a parent that had no say in their being born or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 03:23 AM
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The collective also pays billions of tax dollars to defence/military spending so we can defend other countries and fight wars we didn't start. You'd think a fraction of that cost can go to single mothers/fathers to support children instead of ordering unwilling fathers to pay child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 03:18 AM
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I don't know why people think the solution is to take away women's right to abortion, rather than giving men more rights to relinquish financial responsibility/parental rights. Why are governments ordering unwilling fathers to pay even if they have little means to, instead of offering some form of financial support to single mothers themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 03:14 AM
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I agree that in large part, the refusal of responsibility comes from governments placing it on the unwilling father who may not have the means to support the child, rather than simply offering financial support to single mothers/children, especially since they're taking away the option to abort.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 03:10 AM
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In many countries they do offer men a chance to relinquish parental rights before a child is born. I think this is a fair option that all countries should offer, as long as it's done in a timeframe that gives the woman a chance to abort. I think countries such as the US that refuse to offer this only do so because the government doesn't want to support single mothers financially, so they make the unwilling fathers support them. Governemnt's could easily cut just a fraction of funding to the mili…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 03:05 AM
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Birth control in any regard isn't perfect, that's why I believe abortion is necessary as a last resort. I also agree men should be able to relinquish custody before the child is born if the mother is against abortion and they'd rather not have the child. I think the only reason the government doesn't offer this option is that the government wants to avoid having to support single mothers, so instead they make fathers pay child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 02:56 AM
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I agree, I see women do it all the time. I don't think it goes one way I see both genders doing it constantly and they're both equally toxic. Often they have had a couple of bad experiences with the opposite sex and start to generalise and 'other' the entire gender. I think people who generalise like this are only hurting themselves by not opening themselves up to the possibility not every one of the same sex thinks or behaves the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 01:40 AM
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This is a perfect example of what i'm talking about though. I never said it only goes one way, both genders do it constantly and it's toxic. These women likely had a few bad experiences with men and then generalised all men from those experiences. They have confirmation bias because they find others who feel similar. In reality, men don't all behave or think the same way, they're only hurting themselves by believing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 01:33 AM
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This is exactly the kind of thinking I’m talking about. A small subset of women are in those groups, yet you’ve jumped to the conclusion that this is some reality a lot of women are dealing with.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 11:41 PM
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I don’t think men are a monolith. That idea is equally as toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 11:33 PM
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Agreed, I internally roll my eyes when i sometimes see men apologise on behalf of all men. People of the same gender are not a monolith, we don’t hold accountability for 50% of the human population.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 07:27 AM
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I agree it’s awful they went through that, but I don’t really get the sentiment of apologising on behalf of all women. Same goes for the idea of holding all men accountable for certain men’s behaviour. We’re not a monolith. Certain women’s behaviour is just as much a mystery to me as it is to any man. Just because we’re the same gender does not make us accountable for the actions of 50% of the population. My ex treated me terribly but I don’t associate or hold my current boyfriend accountable fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 07:13 AM
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I totally agree and it’s super subconscious and as a society we don’t even realise we’re doing it. Little girls who are naturally assertive or leaders get trained out of it, whereas little boys aren’t. I’m only 23 but I’m sure things are slightly different to when I was a little girl. However, I remember Little girls who were direct and confident in childhood got labelled “bossy”. I was a shy kid but I remember adults openly scolding them and calling my friends bossy who were more extroverted an…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 07:14 AM
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Women do this too. It just looks different. During a covid lockdown in my city I became really lonely, I couldn’t even see my friends. I went on my first date in 9 months with a guy and convinced myself we were perfect for each other despite now being baffled by this because we have nothing in common and he wasn’t my type at all (nothing wrong with him in particular, we just had very different personalities. We dated for three months before breaking up a week after lockdown ended. I basically fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 07:06 AM
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As a woman, everything you wrote in your post is everything I wish men would stop doing. Basically “othering” women were really not that different stop putting women on a pedestal or demonising them were just human. I wish women would stop: Body shaming men and justifying it because men do it to women. Viewing their past relationships/experiences with men as an indication of how all men behave. Men do this to women too. I think people don’t realise how subconsciously we can over and over again c…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 06:58 AM
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I agree with your comment, my family friends husband died from cancer very quickly and young and life insurance allowed her to grieve without the worry of money. I audibly laughed at the “wouldn’t have any incentive”. I know we never truly know anyone. But If you can’t trust your partner to not kill you for your money, don’t marry them!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 03:37 AM
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Exactly, just like how men need and value kids and a family, women need and value success and independence to feel fulfilled. Women are capable of more than just being mothers and homemakers, just like men are capable of being more than just fathers and homemakers. Believe it or not women also get bored and unsatisfied when they feel as though they’re wasting their potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 03:27 AM
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That’s true, but it’s still a pretty good income compared to most careers. Big consulting companies will often hire law grads with attractive starting salaries and opportunities for promotions within the company.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 01:28 AM
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In Australia our tertiary education system is a lot more affordable. To become a lawyer all up it’s about 150k which sounds like a lot, but it’s interest free for life. How much you pay depends as much as you earn. I racked up 30k for my bachelor degree in biotechnology, a little bit comes out of my pay check every fortnight but I don’t even notice it. On another note. Having a law degree doesn’t necessarily mean they have to be a lawyer and having kids doesn’t mean they have to be a SAHM. The s…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 10:45 PM
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I agree the role is super important and criminally devalued. but kids grow up and no longer need their mothers as much. You can have both. Women can still raise their family to the best of their ability and work. My mum ran a business from home and it made me respect her as a role model more than just seeing her as my mother. She still had ample time to be a loving, supportive mother and had dinner on the table every night. I’d argue everyone not just women find the most satisfaction from their …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 10:35 PM
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My uncles a divorce lawyer. He’s told me the idea that 80% of divorces are initiated by women is a bit of a myth. The majority of divorces are mutual and have been discussed for a long time before they’re filed for. Women are more likely to file for it since it falls under the category of ‘clerical, household’ chores that women often do more than men in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 09:31 PM
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I hate work, it’s work. But I don’t want my husband to “take care” of me. It would be boring and poor for my self-esteem. I understand reducing hours or not working a year or two while the kids are young, but it’s dangerous, he can leave you, die suddenly and suddenly be left having no skills, experience and means to support yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 09:21 PM
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Why does it have to be all or nothing though? A woman can still work after having kids, just temporarily less hours while they’re young to take care of the household/kids. Men can also have some of the financial burden taken off them if their wife works and reduce their hours to spend time with their kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 09:17 PM
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I hear stories like this all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 09:11 PM
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This is how abusers get away with it. They manipulate, gaslight and convince that the victim is hysterical and lying. I’d urge you to read this case about Hannah Clarke, who was murdered alongside her children by her abusive ex. When he locked them in a car and set her and her children on fire. She and her family had been contacting the police about him for years. He was telling his friends she was the crazy one and wasn’t letting him see his kids etc. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_H…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 09:10 PM
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They get locked up for one night, if that. Women are too scared to call the cops because they know it’ll only make the situation worse. There’s a case recently in Australia where a woman’s ex locked her and their children in a car, set it on fire and killed them all. The mother and mothers family were in contact with the police for years that he was threatening to kill her, had beaten her. They did nothing, legally there was little they could do. Domestic violence is so complicated. https://en.m…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 09:04 PM
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My cousin went back to work part-time 4 months after her first child so the company she worked at didn’t forget about her, and she could continue her career. The salary she was earning was mainly going towards paying the nanny 3 days a week while she was in office but she doesn’t regret it. She’s now quite high up in the company CFO or something even after having 2 more kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 08:56 PM
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My mum was the breadwinner before she had 3 kids. She was a high-paid computer programmer with huge prospects. Her first child, my oldest brother, was born severely intellectually disabled. He’s still in nappies at 29, never learnt to talk but was physically fully capable and destructive. She never went back to work for obvious reasons. She did however, start her own business from home 13 years later. It was moderately successful, she made around 120k/year at one point from it. But raising 3 kid…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 08:49 PM
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Not to mention housewives in the 50’s would often develop psychosis from the repetitive, isolating nature of being a housewife.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 08:33 PM
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I have a childhood friend who’s both parents are lawyers and worked something like 60 hour weeks. His mum was actually the breadwinner. He kinda resents his parents for never physically being there for him growing up. My mum would often drive him home from school to an empty home. Often we’d have him stay for dinner. He went a bit off the rails because he was so unsupervised. He was a problem child cause he craved attention he wasn’t getting. Mothers often have to quit/reduce the hours of their …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 08:27 PM
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Both my parents have been married for over 30 years and have high-paying white collar jobs. You can have both. My mum loves my dad and has never even had an inkling of wanting to leave him. However, she still tells me to never rely on a man financially and to get my own career. It’s dangerous, anything can happen. Not to mention it would be poor for your self esteem having to rely on and ask for your partner for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 08:17 PM
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You're conflating cheating, pedophilia, sex work, and rape with consensual sex. How will you put people who have premarital sex into the same category as paedophiles and rapists?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 01:00 AM
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Cause people on this sub often only see things as black and white. There's a substantial middle ground between being a virgin and promiscuous that most people fall in.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 12:54 AM
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There's an enormous gap between being a virgin and being promiscuous though. I also think age plays a role here; most 25-year-old women will probably say they wouldn't want their partner to be a virgin. However, it likely makes little difference for a 16-17 year old who is also a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 12:48 AM
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Honestly, no, I’m not referring to attractiveness based on who I personally am attracted to. Average to me means a regular looking person based off the people you see day to day. I’m fully aware the average person has many flaws and doesn’t look like the people you’ll see in the media.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 01:14 AM
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I think this is true partly because women prefer low inhibition men but more because low inhibition men will actually put themselves out there more often and are more upfront with a woman if they like them rather than dancing around it. Women will never make the first move. I’ve witnessed countless occasions when a guy and girl both like each other but nothing will come of it because the guy never actually makes a clear cut move because he’s too in his head second guessing himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 03:18 AM
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I’ve seen average to slightly below average do really well, better than their more attractive friends who don’t approach cause they’re too in their head. However I think it’s not just about low inhibition, they also have more social ease and charisma. Low inhibition people with no social awareness are often annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 03:11 AM
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If I’m being honest, If he’s 100% certain he’s straight, I don’t think he should tell. Not many straight guys have homosexual experiences and are open about it. So the fact that it’s uncommon would make me nervous. It would always be in the back of my mind if he’s actually gay and suppressing it. Even if I tell myself it’s backward to think like that etc. It would still be there. I wouldn’t be weirded out or turned off by him having a homosexual experience. I would just be scared one day he’s go…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 11:13 PM
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Being in a good relationship is far preferable to being single for most people. Unfortunately, you have to date to find a good relationship and often dating can be hard. Fortunately, in my opinion the more you date and enter relationships, the more you learn what you need in a partner and works and what doesn’t. So you get a little closer every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 10:25 PM
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No woman in a happy relationship will say this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 10:23 PM
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People in happy relationships will never say they were happier single. Being single is however preferable to being in a relationship with the wrong person though. Unfortunately most people have to be in many bad relationships before they find someone they’re compatible with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 10:22 PM
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Why not just marry someone who has the same kinks and you? I’m sure that’s what most people do. Sexual compatibility is pretty important for a relationship why even get into one with someone who’s not?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 04:44 AM
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Is hiker trash a common term? What are hiker trash people? People who like to hike and camp?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 10:13 PM
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Lol no, I can’t say I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 10:13 PM
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I agree it’s more an age thing than something that happens when people have kids. I think sometimes it comes to a halt for certain couples when they have a baby because the wife is experiencing postpartum depression or the initial stress of a newborn makes them neglect sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 10:12 PM
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I didn’t sense that, I just think you seem to be focusing on the wrong thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 09:06 PM
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In my experience I notice all the time that very attractive people are more likely to not value having a very attractive partner all that much. I think it comes from them not being as easily fooled by good looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 05:37 AM
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All I know is, don’t sit back and wait to hit your prime that may never come. Your odds increase enormously by just putting yourself out there. There may be someone amazing looking for someone like you but you’ll never meet them unless you try.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 03:42 AM
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I actually kinda agree with you here, but more in the sense media has fucked up our perception of sex rather than made us hyper sexual. Movies like American pie that depict getting laid and losing your virginity as the ultimate achievement. They also heavily imply if someone is still a virgin they’re a loser, even though they’re just school teens. It perpetuates a really warped idea that your worth is based on how many sexual partners you have. The media like Euphoria and River dale also constan…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 03:37 AM
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I definitely agree about the abuse thing, it’s very common. Seperate conversation but Idk maybe it’s just me tho but I wouldn’t say “I don’t do that anymore” if I did something once though I feel like it implies I used to do something regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 03:26 AM
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Are you actually trying to argue you know my long term partner better than me? Just because he’s also a man doesn’t mean he shares your values and perspective. He was actually the one who first brought up he hopes to marry me one day. Many men do actually value a monogamous relationship over meaningless hookups, love is one of the best feelings in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 11:37 PM
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I guess my point is, consider it from a woman’s perspective. Most women view their future husband as nothing less than perfect. It may not mean husband in the way you think of a husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 11:06 PM
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Trust me my boyfriend definitely does. I think he’d be pretty offended if I called him hookup material…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 11:04 PM
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I mean yeah pretty much. If you know for certain she’s done it with others and not you, it’s probably a bad sign. However, don’t assume that she’s necessarily done it for others or is ever willing to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 10:54 PM
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That’s how you view husbands though. It’s definitely not how I interpret it, I have a far more idealised view of my future husband. I’m 23 and I view my current boyfriend as husband material. To me it just means I want to have sex with you for the rest of my life and spend all my time with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 10:52 PM
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Can I tell you a secret? Most women don’t like oral! It’s not enjoyable in the slightest! It hurts your jaw and makes me feel like puking. I do it because I enjoy how happy it makes my partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 10:48 PM
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People with kinks don’t really stop liking them or give them up, especially not with who they want to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 10:18 PM
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Idk man, I’m pretty certain I don’t like the scat fetish with anyone on earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 10:15 PM
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If you only tried something once though you probably wouldn’t say “I don’t do that anymore” though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 10:12 PM
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That’s based on your idea of what it means to be a husband though. I personally don’t want to marry someone I have no respect for. To me husband material means someone sexually attractive and who I want to spend the rest of my life with. Basically the full package.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 10:11 PM
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Where on earth did you pull this idea out from his comment?! Lmao!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 10:08 PM
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The only guys I’ve made wait were the ones who I suspected were only after sex and I was usually right. The guys I didn’t make wait were the ones who’s Intentions I never even had to question.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 10:07 PM
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I’m pretty certain I’m going to marry my current boyfriend and I definitely didn’t make him wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 09:52 PM
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Right!? I don’t understand why anyone would interpret marry as an insult. To me it means you’re willing to have sex with only them and spend the rest of your life with them. It basically means your the full package not just a body. Also most people don’t want to marry someone they don’t find sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 09:51 PM
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Not necessarily in my opinion, I went to an all girls high school and most of the most attractive girls shacked up with long term boyfriends. The most promiscuous girls weren’t necessarily the most attractive ones, they were the ones with the personality for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 09:48 PM
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As a serial monogamist, I would mean this as the highest compliment I could give a guy. I probably wouldn’t say it to someone I found physically unattractive either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 09:27 PM
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I’ve never known a girl who didn’t shower everyday. That’s not normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 09:25 PM
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Maybe I’m bias cause I’m 23 but I have sex with my boyfriend almost everyday, I thought that was the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 09:23 PM
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Lol what? I didn’t know my current boyfriend back then. I can absolutely guarantee you I’d have gone for my current boyfriend over my ex if I did though. Not to sound shallow but my current boyfriend is even much more physically attractive than my ex. I was just completely naive at 18 and had low self esteem, I thought I was lucky just to even have a boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 09:14 PM
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People were more social overall in the 80’s. Socialising after all is the precursor to sex, romance, love. We don’t just have a problem of sexless men, the primary issue is friendless people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 10:49 AM
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He’s actually right, there’s statistics that show people in general, in the 80’s were more sexually active than today.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 10:32 AM
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I haven’t necessarily found that to be true, I think there’s an equal amount of attractive and unattractive assholes. The problem is attractive people like you said, can get away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 10:29 AM
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Are you kidding? I see couples like this on the daily!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 10:23 AM
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The men who are ugly with boring jobs don’t necessarily want an ugly woman with a boring job though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 10:20 AM
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I agree. I think it’s ridiculous to attribute moral values to gender. I think their’s an equal number of good and bad men and women. The difference lies slightly in how it manifests itself. Imo I think men and women someone’s demonise each other because we don’t fully understand where the other gender is coming from and falsely attach sinister motives for the others behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 10:19 AM
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It shouldn’t take someone their entire 20’s to realise they should avoid douchebags. It should take a couple years at most. I’m 23 and a few of my friends dated some awful guys when they were 18/19/20 but most of them are with amazing partners now. If someone consistently chooses douchebags well into their 20’s, it’s probably from deep insecurity issues and isn’t going to magically come right in their 30’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 10:09 AM
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Not necessarily, they get the initial stupid years. My first boyfriend at 18 was an abusive asshole. He was super nasty to me, took his anger and insecurity out of me, dropped out of university (which is whatever) but then smoked weed everyday. I dumped him after 6 months but I have no idea what possessed me to even date him. My current partner is the kindest, most amazing guy I’ve ever met and I met him when I was only 21 (I’m 23 now). I don’t regret my first boyfriend because it was a learning…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 10:05 AM
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That’s ridiculous though, men in poverty also father more children, does that mean all women want poor men?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 05:56 AM
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Their are also just as many men with questionable morals. I don’t believe what’s between someone’s legs determines their moral standing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 05:55 AM
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Your only a misogynist in my book if you hate them mainly because they’re a woman. Or if you’d be more tolerant if a man behaved that way but dislike them because they’re behaving in a way you think a woman shouldn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 12:07 AM
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I can’t tell if this is a shitpost or you’re actually this cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 12:00 AM
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If this study was tinder or hinge I’d take it seriously but I’ve never heard of Okcupid. How are you going to try and convince me this app?? Or dating site maybe? I’ve never heard of is supposed to be relevant to all of modern dating. That’s so irrelevant, no wonder no one takes this theory seriously, even reddit people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 12:27 PM
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Exactly. Like how in 2019 Barbra Palvin was labelled a “Plus Size” VS supermodel despite being 128 pounds and 5’9”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 06:32 AM
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I absolutely agree, about the fact women can play up our photos. However, I have a lot of guy friends who ask me to help them with their tinder/hinge since I’ve been in a relationship for years and they trust me. Their hinge/tinder photos and profiles are often really unflattering and underselling themselves. They’re not bad looking dudes but their have sometimes make me question how they even get a single match. They’ll post bad quality photos from terrible angles. They’ll have nothing of subst…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 06:09 AM
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I’m not sure if I agree with the first thing you said but the tinder thing is very true. I can’t tell you how many male friends showed me their tinder and their photos and profile is really shit and significantly underselling them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 06:05 AM
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You’re confusing curvy with 300lbs. Someone can be curvy and still have a normal BMI. I don’t think it’s at all unreasonable for a man to say they don’t find fashion models attractive since many of them do have unhealthily low BMI’s, after all sexual attractiveness is heavily built on healthiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 06:03 AM
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As a woman I agree with this but I don’t agree that it’s because women overestimate our attractiveness. We’re pickier because the risk of dating or sleeping with the wrong guy is a lot greater. I’ve been hit on and rejected many men who I considered on my level and even above. It’s not a personal rejection of them but a decision that I often would make when I wasn’t prepared at that time in my life to date and not have it work out or to date someone only after a hook up. Men only stand to gain f…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 05:27 AM
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I think that your right sometimes the phrase “bare minimum” is overused like every internet term, but I have actually seen it be used originally in contexts that make sense. Sometimes men are praised for doing things that are in fact, the bare minimum, like changing a nappy or spending time with their own kids etc. It’s not that the behaviour isn’t good but when we praise people for something it makes it seem like the act is special and extra and not essential.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 01:23 AM
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I pretty much just pulled it out of my ass to be honest lol probably shouldn’t of used “in fact”. But basically my logic was that if 51% of Americans are married by the age of 30 and if around 20% or so percent are already in long term relationships, by 30, that leaves around 30% of single people remaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 02:26 AM
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This study was literally from 2019. I don’t think society has changed that much in 3 years that this study is redundant.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 02:36 PM
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I’m going insane, why are people so Intentionally thick? Do I really have to point out right now that it’s a pretty different situation if the “issue” the suffragettes were “bitching and moaning” about was the basic human right to vote?! People don’t care about men’s issues if the issue is fucking “I don’t get pussy” plenty of people care about issues like the male suicide rate, it’s why “are you okay day” exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 02:34 PM
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How In the hell do “hardened men” give me personally more benefit than “soy boys” as you call them? If anything modern society is entirely benefited by “soyboys” who created computing codes? How do “hardened” men finance society when the reality is men who rely on their physical strength rather than their intellect earn far less. I don’t even want to have to point out this shit. Your reply to my comment was needlessly complicated, you read into it. I didn’t even “throw stones” at men like you cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 02:24 PM
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Right!? Also why are certain men so convinced they’d have a better time getting a wife in past decades. Just because fathers and brothers had more of a say in who women married doesn’t mean they would of been more likely to want you to marry their daughter/sister. Most people create an idealistic idea of the past and don’t realise that they would of been just as much of a loser in the past as they are now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 02:12 PM
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In reality the first wave of divorces don’t really start until mid 40’s if we’re being honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 02:04 PM
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I agree. I know it’s a really harsh truth but I think a lot of people who aren’t able to couple up in their twenties complain about the dating pool as if the blame falls on the new generation and not the fact they don't want to acknowledge their dating pool has already decreased by almost 70% by the time they turn 30. They may not feel old but even in modern day dating they are still quite old to still be still dating having never been divorced. I think there are a number of people who think tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 02:02 PM
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Where in the hell did you get the idea this guy claimed men are more likely to support women’s issues than women are to support men’s?If anything he was clearly saying the exact opposite. This guy actually decided to insinuate that women who wanted the right to vote were “bitching and moaning”. How is this proof to you that men are more inclined to support woman's issues? I’m genuinely interested cause this is pretty baffling.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 01:44 PM
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I don’t actually believe we should avoid all physical warfare. I’m of the opinion that the modern concept of patriarchy that’s to blame for denying women any political influence has made the political landscape and society as a whole unhealthy. It’s upset the balance both genders bring to the overall harmony of humanity. The thing is people have forgotten that in comparison to most of human history patriarchy is actually a very modern concept. In ancient civilisations women had a far more active…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 01:34 PM
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“The hand that feeds them” this type of language is honestly fucked. I don’t think you even are fully conscious of it. Women are human beings with the exact same capacity for complex thought as men were not pets that need to be fed. People are so quick to forget and rewrite history it’s actually scary, this is why we’re doomed to repeat it. I know racism and misogyny are very different, but still you wouldn’t say this shit to black people right?It’s super degrading to insinuate they should be th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 01:10 PM
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Lol what, I don’t actually believe you truly think that women were “bitching and moaning” for wanting the right to vote or own land. At this point I think your just being argumentative for the sake of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 11:07 AM
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It really depends though. When I get tipsy with my boyfriend and we have sex, that’s clearly not rape. Even if I’m usually slightly more intoxicated despite us having the same amount to drink since I’m a 95 pound 5ft woman and he’s a decent sized man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 11:00 AM
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How is it destructive for men to have more active parenting roles?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 10:36 AM
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I think feminism in the US has also been destroyed by the feminism that’s peddled by corporations purely for capitalist gain. Corporations in America will shamelessly use any mainstream movement as a method to sell product, but they don’t actually care about the movement and it makes them often portray it very poorly. Just look at the way companies will throw rainbow flags on everything during pride month. Buzzfeed is a perfect example of this. Buzzed is at its core a corporation concerned with …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 10:35 AM
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Right? I never said men who fought in wars shouldn’t be properly respected. It doesn’t mean it’s not important to have discussions about why certain wars are even had in the first place especially if men are going to be forced to die in them. I think the men staying and fighting for Ukraine are brave and honourable. I still think it’s unjust that have to stay and fight for a war Putin started because he’s power hungry. The idea that men who died in wars did so for us and our country is brainwash…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 09:52 AM
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They didn’t die for me, they died because power hungry leaders used civilians as cannon fodder. There’s still historical debate about what even caused the First World War. Men didn’t grant me political freedom, the entire reason feminism exists as a movement is because women had to fight for the right to vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 09:18 AM
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I don’t think this does hold water though. The “I was drunk also” argument doesn’t fly in cases where there are witnesses that back up the other person was far more intoxicated. Brock Turner repeatedly tried to use alcohol as an excuse for his assault but it’s not going to hold up when his victim was passed out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 09:09 AM
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I think like you said, it’s entirely dependent on how inebriated someone is. No jury or judge is going to deem it rape if they consented but had a couple drinks with dinner. I think it changes things once someone’s noticeably drunk and inebriated. It doesn’t matter how much someone is coming onto you, if there clearly drunk and your not, they can’t give consent. The thing is there are women who will blame it on the alcohol when they regret sleeping with someone. However, I’ve also witnessed a lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 08:35 AM
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Hardened men hungry for power are the ones who start these wars in the first place though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 08:15 AM
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Body positivity is a reaction to obesity not a cause of it. Men are still more likely to be obese or overweight than women. It’s not like people are looking at the content and deciding to become obese or if overweight people could snap their fingers and not be overweight they wouldn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 06:18 AM
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A simple google search will tell you there are more overweight and obese men than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 06:14 AM
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How tf is body acceptance feminism? Also since when was body acceptance a cause of obesity and not a reaction to obesity. No one’s looking at body positive content and deciding to become obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 06:12 AM
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Are women’s looks not also mostly based on genetics, face and body type? Women don’t put on makeup and immediately become a 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 06:08 AM
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Blaming feminism for obesity is honestly baffling.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 05:15 AM
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7 is pretty realistic, this is the median number of partners for men and women in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 04:51 AM
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This really depends on what you consider promiscuous though. The average number of sexual partners that a woman has in their lifetime is 4.3 which in my opinion is not that high.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 04:47 AM
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I think you can see the core difference in male vs female dating habits when looking at gay relationships. Gay men are a lot more sexually active than straight men. The most notable difference between straight relationships and lesbian ones is how quickly lesbians commit. There’s a running joke in the lesbian community that a couple could’ve met two weeks ago but already be moved in.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 04:28 AM
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I don’t care if they’ve done it but I’d also prefer not to know. I don’t want to talk about your previous sexual encounters.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 04:09 AM
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Who’s claiming it nullifies it? I was taught in school birth control is not completely effective and doesn’t protect against STD’s
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 04:02 AM
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Why are you so certain that single mothers didn’t choose to have their children? A lot of them got divorced. Also single motherhood isn’t actually at record highs it’s actually gone down in the recent decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 04:01 AM
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So? I’ve also never seen a man bring birth control pills to a date
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 03:55 AM
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It’s more difficult to make a pill that only temporary stops male fertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 03:54 AM
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Who’s out here claiming that because of the pill women can sleep around without risk though? In high school we were taught all about STD’s in health class and the importance of using a condom. Not to mention the effectiveness of every method of birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 03:49 AM
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Why are you assuming they’re related? Some women actually choose to be single mothers or got divorced. Not all single mothers didn’t want to be pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 03:47 AM
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Who’s out here saying it’s a mystery younger women are considered more attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 03:44 AM
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Men also have access to methods of contraception though. No birth control is 100% effective even an IUD, I’m not sure how a woman can “fail” at having an IUD. It’s why abortion is necessary in a number of cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 03:37 AM
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Hello operator I would like to report a murder 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 03:33 AM
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But how many men actually have dangerous jobs in modern first world society. Jobs have proper safety precautions nowadays, workplace injuries aren’t as common. The only job that comes to mind where people risk their life are fire fighters and police officers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 03:06 AM
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Alimony is significantly larger when kids are involved though, idk why men who pay child support act as if the money is going solely to the ex and not to towards their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 03:00 AM
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I think a lot of incompatibility and flaws become more obvious the longer you’ve been together. When I broke up with my ex I remember I still loved him but I didn’t like him. I cried myself to sleep for a month afterwards but I never regretted my decision because the relationship made me increasingly miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 02:50 AM
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When I broke up with my ex boyfriend he asked if there was some other guy. I honestly laughed because we spent almost all our time together, how would I even be able to cheat on him. He asked me if there was another guy as if me breaking up with him was a complete surprise, which only made me more certain I made the right decision. I’d been telling him for months I was unhappy but clearly he wasn’t even listening.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 02:47 AM
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I definitely saw the signs, but didn’t know what they meant, I could feel him pulling away. I think deep down I knew he got himself into a relationship with me and realised too late that he wasn’t ready for one. I became insecure and needed more assurance from him in response to him pulling away, which only made him even more sure that he didn’t want to be in the relationship. When he broke it off I was surprised because only a couple weeks before he was very much in love. I was mad because befo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 02:42 AM
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Yeah probably. Even 20 pounds shouldn’t be a dealbreaker in my opinion. A small amount of weight gain in old age is normal as our metabolism slows. I could gain 20 pounds and still be within the healthy range for bmi.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 02:15 AM
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I actually think women are better off for having it built into us at such an early age. There’s a ridiculous amount of posts on this sub that basically say in one form or another “your appearance determines how your treated” I a mean duh! I think men have a harder time coming to terms with it because it’s a lot easier to accept difficult truths at an early age. The longer you go about life not realising a harsh truth the more cheated you feel when you do realise it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 07:21 PM
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I agree, don’t think it’s entirely brought on by self improvement content. I actually think men would actually be better off if they became conscious of their appearance and it’s impact on the way their treated at a much earlier age. Difficult truths are a lot easier to swallow early on in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 07:14 PM
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Your only proving my point here. They never even said anything related to that in the example you gave. Your the one who’s brought this idea up yourself! All theyre saying here is that self improvement messaging is often hidden in plain sight. They never even offered an opinion about whether or not it’s damaging or causes “trauma”. I’m not trying to be funny, but your reading comprehension skills are really bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 07:05 PM
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It’s not, but men will actually consider this basic hygiene as self improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 06:54 PM
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Unfortunately, despite Australia being Aboriginal land the British settlers treated the Aboriginal population really terribly since they first landed. The Aboriginal and Torres Strait islanders is currently about 3%. Something we called the stolen generations only ended within the last 50 years. It was basically legal ethnic cleansing. White colonisers would take ownership of any Aboriginal child born that was half white, from their parents to be raised “white”.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 11:24 AM
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Yeah, like I said I think men have this perspective because it’s possible a couple times when they approached a woman not hitting on her or hitting on her but in an appropriate manner and were responded to with rudeness. The thing is that even though most men wouldn’t harass a woman, almost all times I’ve been approached by a male stranger they’ll be inappropriate and won’t leave me alone and will make me very uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 11:09 AM
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Come to Australia if you want to get laid. We find American accents sexy. Also, I hope this doesn’t sound racist but we don’t have a lot of black people here, so I’ve noticed when I went on exchange that the average black man in Australia would recieve a lot more female attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 10:55 AM
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I know it may sound like some bullshit your mother would say but small acts of gentleman-like behaviour may actually make all the difference for certain women, like myself. On our first date my current boyfriend made sure to open the car door for me when he picked me up and dropped me home. I thought it was just the kindest act ever because as a gen z woman, the guys I previously dated never performed these acts of chivalry. Obviously I’m capable of opening my own car door. But it indicated he w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 10:47 AM
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How social are you? How many friends do you have? How often do you go out? Are you a part of any clubs or opportunities to meet people outside of your work? You sound like a really decent guy, I’m sure there’s a good amount of women your age out there who’d find you attractive. the issue here may be you just aren’t presented with many opportunities to meet them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 10:38 AM
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I’m not even trying to be funny, but it’s obvious certain men on this sub have never been in love, and I’m not just saying that in a “who hurt you” kind of way. Love is a powerful drug. It’s the reason why people are capable of developing deep admiration for a completely regular person. Love goggles are a real thing. People in love are known to rate the smell their partners beo as far better than others in blind tests. When your in love you literally think they smell better. Love It’s why people…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 10:31 AM
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Good joke lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 10:17 AM
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I’ve heard from experienced sugar babies it’s more common than people realise. It makes sense imo, if sex was what the men and after and companionship secondary, why go to the trouble of getting sugar baby and not just a prostitute?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 10:08 AM
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There’s also the inverse, my friend and I one night when we were drunk made a fake account on seeking arrangements a couple years ago after seeing content about sugar baby’s earning 1000’s a week on tik tok. We we quickly got freaked out and deleted the account the second we actually got a serious message from a a guy looking for a sugar baby. I think the idea of sugar babying is enticing in theory, imagine being paid $1000 to go on a date. But the reality of it is a lot more confronting. I stil…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 08:25 AM
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The strangest thing is there is actually a number of sugar baby’s who have an arrangement where they don’t actually sleep with their sugar daddy. They provide close companionship for money that can’t really be brought from regular prostitutes. And no their not just lying, some sugar daddies are more after the experience of companionship or arm candy than sex. Or are too old to perform sexually. I’d assume they likely earn less than the ones who do sleep with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 07:56 AM
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Yeah I think initially attraction is everything but the phrase love is blind, didn’t come from nowhere. I feel this way about my boyfriend. He’s got a receding hairline and asked me the other day if I’d mind if he went bald one day. Honestly, why would I care, I’m 10x happier when he’s around. I never thought I’d love someone more than my own family until I met him. I wake up everyday grateful that he’s in my life, I miss him the moment he’s gone. It feels silly to care about appearance when you…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 07:40 AM
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Sure you do dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 07:24 AM
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Is 2 pounds even noticeable? Let alone a reason to fall out of live with someone lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 07:22 AM
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This isn’t exclusive to women’s self improvement industry though. The men’s self improvement industry is similarly primarily focused on the appearance or selfish gain. I think this makes sense though because improvement on personality is not as profitable. There are self help books and motivational speakers but for the most part it’s more a personal journey than a profitable industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 07:19 AM
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There’s also things women are expected to do for basic self hygiene purposes that men don’t even have to consider. At 18 I spent over $700 on 8 painful laser hair removal sessions than spanned over 8 months. Just so I no longer have pubic, underarm or leg hair. It’s still less expensive and time consuming than shaving every 2-3 days for the rest of my life. It’s not viewed as self improvement that I removed my body hair, it’s expected of us. Yet women who allow their body hair to exist as it is …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 07:13 AM
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Are you actually implying men have better methods of self improvement. Men will literally get a skin routine for the first time in their mid 20’s that comprises of just a cleanser and maybe a moisturiser and consider it a step towards self improvement. Women will begin a 3 step skin routine at age 12 because it’s basic self hygiene.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 07:06 AM
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Right? I’m calling bullshit on the idea there’s more self esteem/assuredness content than aspirational content or content that exists because people follow it in hopes of improving on social media. The only difference is the self esteem-body positive geared content is more overt and explicit, it’s not trying to cover up its intentions or be subtle. The aspirational content is practically everything else that isn’t relatebale or body positivity content posted by influencers on social media. They’…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 06:54 AM
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Why are you bringing this up though? No one here even hinted that insinuating women need to improve is wrong or insulting. The comment you originally replied to was about how self improvement content aims at women comes in different formats than it does for men, not that it’s wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 06:46 AM
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I think the body positive movement and reactionary content is more aimed at and made by women, because as a women become conscious of our appearance and the universal truth that how we look has an impact on how we’re treated at a much earlier age than men do. I can’t remember a time before I was aware of my appearance and actively trying to improve it. I was 3 when I first snuck in my mothers room to use her makeup. I remember being 7 and criticising aspects of my body in the mirror at dance cla…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 06:36 AM
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Your post reads as coming from the perspective of someone who’s never actually been in love or a relationship. You overanalyse something that’s pretty much common knowledge. You write as if what you have to say is some groundbreaking concept. It’s actually just over explaining the rudimentary basics of romantic relationships, it’s well known that romantic love isn’t unconditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 06:19 AM
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I think every human being by default deserves the second definition of respect. The first definition however, is an example of respect that is earned.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 06:11 AM
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I think that’s a bit of an oversimplification. I think you’ll find there’s much more variation among individuals than gender. Peoples definitions of respect is more informed by upbringing and values than simply their gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 06:06 AM
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I think relationships don’t necessarily have to be equal in every regard, they just need to be somewhat equitable. I think they actually work better when each person brings to the table what the other lacks, it’s often what makes people attracted to each other and better as a unit than alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 06:02 AM
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A lot of marriages do still last though. The divorce rate in the US is currently the lowest it’s been in 50 years. In my opinion just because a lot of marriages don’t work out it doesn’t cancel out the ones that do. Most people are fully aware of the risk of divorce when they choose to marry. People choose to take that risk, and I believe people should be allowed to. You claim that people who still believe in marriage haven’t seen the truth for themselves, but that may be your truth but it’s not…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 05:54 AM
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Yes, I can’t remember a time when I wasn’t conscious of my appearance. I remember being 7 and analysing my body in the mirror at dance class.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 02:26 AM
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I mean…duh!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 02:22 AM
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This! Why are people forgetting that men are equally if not more paranoid of their daughters, girlfriends, sisters etc being assaulted. My boyfriend is super paranoid, he’s by no means a controlling guy but if we’re in an unknown place he never lets me out of his sight. He wants me to come into the gas station with him when he pays for gas or goes to the bathroom. This doesn’t mean my boyfriend believes all men are creepy and out to get me. Its just because the idea of me being assaulted is so a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 02:08 AM
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Right? Like if you have the perspective that people are constantly rude to you, maybe It’s for good reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 07:15 PM
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People already have access to education and arrangements that allows them to decide individually what marriage means to them. I’m a bit over people peddling this idea that people are incapable of making their own informed decisions and their view is the best and should be enforced on everyone. Are you actually pretending that there is one simple perfect answer to something as personal and complex as marriage that the government can enforce that works for everyone? certain things are complicated …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 06:15 PM
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Okay, if you choose to think like that you can, don’t push it on people who don’t agree because at the end of the day it’s just a matter of opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 06:05 PM
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Are men fucking retarded? Cause you talk like they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 12:11 PM
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It’s crazy you’ve never considered that you’re not a particularly likeable person. You clearly don’t have many friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 11:57 AM
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Yeah, there’s definitely a version of burnout women who use dating apps experience. I’ve been in a long term relationship for about 16 months, with the guy I’m pretty certain I’m going to marry who I met through friends. But I used the apps pretty much on a cycle previously. I’d use them everyday for maybe a month or two, get burnt out and decide I’m happy single, and not use them for 3 months, repeat. Men on this sub often claim women have inflated ego’s from receiving lots of male attention fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 11:29 AM
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I don’t agree with you about prenuptial arrangements being automatically determined by government. I think people on this subreddit often have this idea that if something is messy and complicated by nature, the solution is for it to be automatically determined by the government. Even if they make the wrong decision, that’s on them, let adults make their own decisions. I’m a left leaning gen z but I believe the government should have limited control over people. Let us make our own mistakes and o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 11:15 AM
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That’s why people write their own vows nowadays. Prenuptial arrangements exists for this reason too. I don’t think marriage is redundant just because they end. It’s a very black and white way of looking at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 10:19 AM
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Yeah, I think all people here are coming at this from very different experiences and perspectives. When men approach me my initial instinct is rarely to initially respond with anger. I will usually hear what they have to say, some of the time It’s not necessary to be rude, but a good amount of time it unfortunately is. About 4 months ago I was approached by a man in a shopping centre while I was walking. He asked me where I was going and what I was doing. I didn’t catch on that he was hitting on…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 10:14 AM
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It’s a real thing! It can be really hard as a women being played and wasting energy on a guy who just wants sex. I think men sometimes overestimate woman's experiences on dating apps as positive. I definitely think men in general have a harder time on dating apps, don’t get me wrong. However, I think men often don’t realise that being used for sex is actually a really negative experience, for women at least. Not all men obviously, but I believe men in general don’t mind as much being used for se…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 08:43 AM
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I think most of humanity would agree that child rape is wrong based on the pain it causes. It has an obvious impact that is net negative. However, I believe a lot of moral subjectivity comes from our views. Often our perspective based on life experience and values informs morality and you can’t always objectively deny other perspectives exist or are valid. If you believe there is a god that creates all life and conception begins at birth, abortion is immoral as it’s killing life. However, if you…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 07:50 AM
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Of course I agree with you that child rape is objectively wrong. I am of the opinion that my perspective of morality is objectively right. However, I know that someone with a completely different perspective of morality has the same certainty they’re correct. Morality has always been viewed as a philosophy, not a science because it can’t be measured by science and facts. No one can claim morality is objective because it can’t be proven.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 07:04 AM
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As a woman who used dating apps I definitely experienced a version of choice paralysis but probably not until the way you’d think. It’s not about simply choosing “the best” because not every person who swiped right on you is after the same seriousness that you’re after or is as equally into you. I was only ever after a proper relationship, so I’d get burnout by dating apps because you have to wade through an abundance of men who just wanted sex and saw you as one of many. There’s definitely an i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 06:54 AM
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“Child rape is objectively wrong” some religions encourage child brides. Many religions have the moral code that rape within marriage=not rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 05:56 AM
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Someone’s salty lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 05:49 AM
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I have a very different perspective on your last point. When men say “I’m a victim as well” in response to women’s cautionary behaviour, it’s just a way to imply that women’s response to being victims of assault is unjustified. If it was really about them being victims of assault they wouldn’t only bring it up in the context of women’s cautionary behaviour towards men. Just because women respond differently to perceived assault from men doesn’t mean their response is unjustified.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 05:47 AM
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You clearly dislike being directly asked to clarify or back up your argument since your conveniently avoiding these questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 05:23 AM
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The mere fact that you brought them up in the same post. The title of this post is literally “women use fear as an excuse to be rude even though men are assaulted more than women” My question to you is how are these two ideas somehow related to eachother? You also said “the average man should be more scared of men than women” I’m not even the only one to point this out to you. Your entire post comes from the angle that women are rude are irrational with their caution towards men and your argumen…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 05:14 AM
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Makes no sense. Just like in your original argument that because men are more likely to be assaulted, women’s caution is unjustified. You neglected to consider woman’s caution is why they’re less likely to be assaulted. Claiming women should be more cautious of men they know than strangers is neglecting the obvious. The only reason women are less likely to be assaulted by strangers is because they’re more untrusting of strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 04:58 AM
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Literally the only reason your more likely to be sexually assaulted by someone you know is because we’re more trusting to someone we know. Being untrusting of strangers saves lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 04:50 AM
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Why do you think your more likely to be sexually assaulted by someone you know? It’s not because they’re more likely to be a rapist. It’s because you trust someone you know enough that they're able to get you in a situation where you’re vulnerable enough to be assaulted. That’s literally the only reason. This is exactly why being rude and untrusting of strangers is taught as a defence against sexual assault. Whether or not strangers are the most common perpetrators is irrelevant, strangers still…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 04:45 AM
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I know, that doesn’t mean that sexual assault from strangers doesn’t occur and people shouldn’t be wary of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 04:26 AM
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You’re jumping straight to the actual sexual assault. In cases where strangers are the perpetrators of sexual assault, they often use the victims politeness against them to first them to lure their victims into situations where they’re alone and vulnerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 04:24 AM
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This proves how misinformed you are. You’re jumping straight to the actual assault. I’m referring to avoiding giving perpetrators the opportunity to assault. Often perpetrators have to first establish trust with their victim and have to first lure them into circumstances where they’re vulnerable before the assault actually occurs. Making a scene and being combative are methods taught in self defence to deter perpetrators. Tactics used by perpetrators often rely on utilising victims politeness to…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 04:20 AM
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It’s because the difference in the nature of assault that women versus men are more likely to be victims of. Being rude to a perpetrator will likely aggravate situations of physical assault, however sexual assault is different. Professionals actually will actually teach you to be rude and combative in uncomfortable situations because perpetrators often choose their victims based on opportunity and are deterred by victims who will make a scene and fight back.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 04:05 AM
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Why is no one pointing out that in the context of the assault that women are mainly afraid of, sexual, it’s often taught by police and self defence classes to be rude and make a scene as a proper defence. While it’s true that in cases of physical assault provoking the perpetrator can put you in more danger, sexual assault is different. Perpetrators of sexual assault choose victims based on opportunity and are deterred when someone appears combative or makes a scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 03:49 AM
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Women afraid of being physically assaulted or threatened with a gun often do freeze or behave subservient. However, sexual assault is different to other forms of assault, your actually taught that you have a better chance if you behave rudely and make a scene. Perpetrators choose their victims based on opportunity and avoid ones that seem combative and make a scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 03:16 AM
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Why do you want an excuse though?“I don’t feel like it” is the answer. Some people hate when someone keeps using an excuse instead of coming out and telling them they’re not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 03:05 AM
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Kidnapping and rape situations often begin seemingly normal. Perpetrators often utilise their victims politeness to lure them into situations where they’re alone and vulnerable. However, victims often report a strong feeling of unease before the perpetrator has given them good reason to feel as if they’re in danger.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 02:58 AM
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On the contrary, it’s often taught in self defence to not let your need for politeness override your instincts. Maybe in physical assault it does but In cases of sexual assault being rude, meaning not engaging in conversation, not letting them give you a lift home or helping them with a favour, even telling them to fuck of and making a scene actually does decrease your chances. Rapists often choose their victims based on opportunity and are deterred when victims appear “difficult”.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 02:51 AM
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How do you know they’re not fearful? On the contrary, it’s actually taught that not letting the need for politeness override your instincts is hugely important to avoid sexual assault. You should be rude to someone your scared off. Victims of kidnapping and rape often report having an overwhelming suspicion that something was off and desire to run or attack. However, they ignore it often out of fear of being impolite or rude or that their suspicion is wrong. Yes, there’s likely a lot of instance…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 02:42 AM
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I’m only reading what your post said. Your brought women’s behaviour caution of assault up, and then for some reason in the same post brought up that men are assaulted more. Even though they have no effect on each other. What’s your angle here? The title of your post suggests women’s behaviour is unjustified because men are assaulted more. However, how is women being less cautious and more open to male strangers going to change the amount of men are assaulted? It’s entirely redundant to bring wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 02:30 AM
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Like I said, you point out that men are assaulted more as an argument as to why women’s behaviour towards men is unjustified. However, you didn’t consider that women’s behaviour whether it’s out of fear or impoliteness is a factor in why women are assaulted less.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 02:03 AM
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I do think your hypothesis that overall, attractive men would probably be perceived as less likely to rape is probably true to a certain extent. Humans have an inbuilt flaw of perceiving attractive people as less threatening. Studies show men are similarly less likely to wear a condom the more attractive their female partner is perceived to be https://blogs.iu.edu/kinseyinstitute/2018/02/27/womens-perceived-attractiveness-can-affect-mens-condom-use-intentions/ This doesn’t necessarily mean that …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 01:37 AM
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The title of this post implies women’s fear of men is rude and unjustified. Also you even said “The average man should quite literally be more scared of men than a woman should.” Yes, maybe you mean it from the context of men should be more scared of other men, but in that case why even bring women’s fear into the equation? Women being less scared won’t lower the number of male victims of assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 01:22 AM
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Your language and entire argument said it implicitly. Why say “women are seen as more precious when they shouldn’t be” instead of “male victims of physical assault should be taken more seriously”? It comes across as if you believe the injustice is that assault against women should be taken less seriously. Instead of seeing public reaction to female assault as completely justified, and our casual regard for male assault as the real issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 01:14 AM
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Where are you getting this idea that women believe attractive men are incapable of rape? I agree that people in general often assume the best of attractive people. Studies show that were more likely to perceive attractive people as more trustworthy in every sense. What I don’t get is where your getting this data from that women immediately discard all caution if a man’s attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 12:38 AM
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I’ve noticed older women more than men are more likely to crave variation in their life and routine. Whereas as men age they become more set in their ways and increasingly prefer less change. I think this dissonance can create a lot of friction in older relationships. It’s not necessarily that women want “better” they just require more change and variation in general throughout their life to feel fulfilled. It creates friction because I believe it’s confusing for men when what their partner was …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 12:33 AM
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In my opinion, I think people have a very black and white way of looking at relationships, especially on this sub. There’s this idea that unless two people stay together until death the entire relationship was a failure and a lie. If two people were together 20 years before divorcing because the relationship began to make them unhappy, that’s okay, that’s life. If the majority of their years together were happy, and they learnt a lot together it doesn’t erase those years or mean the relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 12:19 AM
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I think it’s strange to take the stance that women should be less scared because they aren’t assaulted as much instead of considering that the two are correlated. Why should women not be scared? Clearly being scared and cautious is a factor on some level why women are physically assaulted less.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 12:03 AM
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That’s a very strange take to believe that women think all men will rape them. As a woman, I definitely don’t believe that, I’m fully aware the vast majority of men aren’t rapists. That still won’t change the fact I’m cautious around strangers and won’t go out on my own at night, because it’s not as if women have the ability to tell who is capable of raping and who isn’t, rapists look and behave like anyone else. From a risk assessment perspective, it makes sense. Having to be cautious in certai…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 11:57 PM
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I find it strange that you’d take the stance of it being unfair that women don’t experience physical assault as much. I think you’re coming from this issue at the completely wrong angle. You write as if the injustice in this situation is that “women are seen as more precious when they shouldn’t be”. As if the solution is for women to be assaulted just as much as men. Instead of the real injustice being that men consider it fair game to assault other defenceless men in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 11:45 PM
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Then get an STD test. Asking a new sexual partner to get an STD test is common sense, not couples about to marry; that's ludicrous.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:31 PM
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I'm ready to get downvoted despite this being a popular opinion, but can you explain why French people in general are genuinely the absolute worst?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:27 PM
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I'm not saying birth certificates by default have blocks for parents, most don't require them since in the majority of circumstances the paternity of a child isn't a mystery. It is required to present the results of a paternity test however if the presumed father directly requests one, in which case they can be court-ordered, look it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:20 PM
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Women, as a whole, care as much about men as men care for women. Men don't care all that much for each other in the same way women do for each other. Men need to learn to look after each other better and change their treatment of other men instead of relying on women for the majority of their emotional support.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:13 PM
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"men need to start care more about each other more"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 03:20 PM
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Sounds like men simply don't care about each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 03:17 PM
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Men don't necessarily prioritise others above other men. They lack the ability that women and POC have to identify with each other intimately. People of colour care for themselves because they understand the experience of being treated differently because of their race. To a lesser extent, women view other women as always having the intimate experience of being a woman. Men don't necessarily prioritise others above other men. They lack the ability that women and POC have to identify with each ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:58 PM
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History shows men don't necessarily care about women as individuals, they care about controlling them. This is why feminism exists in the first place. Women don't care more or less about men than men do. Women, in general, care a whole lot more about other women than men care about other men. Women's intimate knowledge of each other doesn't even touch the surface of men's. Why can a woman know the girl they met in the line of a bar bathroom more intimately than a man can with their close friend?…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:32 PM
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No shit French people speak English, but no English-speaking person is automatically considering the french perspective. Just like as an Australian, I always assume that no one I'm speaking to on the internet is considering something from the perspective of an Australian, because at the end of the day were a country of 25 million.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 01:59 PM
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It’s ironic you bring up domestic violence because the majority of women who end up being killed had reported their abusers multiple times. The reality is the government has limited capacity to respond to personal relationships and situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 01:49 PM
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I think it’s insanity to frame this as though it’s even an issue. You’re imagining a situation where a man wants a paternity test but he’s wary of asking his partner because he has no grounds to. The majority of situations when a paternity test is required there isn’t an actual relationship to be destroyed by having one. Cases where It is a surprise are such a fraction of a fraction of the population. It’s absurd to argue it should be required by government.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 01:45 PM
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I feel like people who frame it as a normal question to ask their partner if their baby isn’t there’s either have never been in a normal long term relationship or have/are in a relationship with someone they shouldn’t be. It’s genuinely not natural or normal to have this thought. If you do have this concern by all means get a paternity test. You should know that for most people in a proper loyal longterm relationship this thought should never actually cross your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 01:35 PM
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The state simply doesn’t give a fuck, and I don’t think it should. I’m a fairly liberal person but I believe there are some things the government should not be allowed to enforce on a population. Even though I’m left leaning and don’t believe in most conspiracy theories, I would be quite wary if the government ordered mandatory DNA testing for newborn babies and their fathers. Governments weren’t even able to enforce mandatory vaccinations in a global pandemic. I doubt they’d be able to enforce …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 01:29 PM
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We're writing in English, > 0.5% of earths population is french, I think it's safe to assume the vast majority of people here aren't from France.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 01:16 PM
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The government already does though, look it up. if a man refuses to sign a birth certificate or pay child support a court-ordered paternity test is required.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 12:40 PM
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We basically landed on the solution that society's current way of paternity testing is sufficient lol. I'm personally all for mandatory testing but all I'm saying is I can see why it's not currently implemented.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 12:36 PM
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I agree with your first point, but as someone who's been in a relationship for over a year and who has no doubt my boyfriend is faithful, mandatory STD testing before marriage can go to hell. The difference with paternity testing is the involvement of a child. If someone wants one before they get married, they're free to get one, and if someone wants their partner to get one before marriage, quite frankly why on earth are they marrying someone they don't trust with one of the most basal requirem…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 12:33 PM
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This is already the case though. In circumstances where a father doesn't want to sign a birth certificate a court-ordered paternity test is sometimes required.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 12:24 PM
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I don't disagree, governments spend far too much already. However, this has the added component of being a mandatory medical test, which has already been controversial during covid as people find it intrusive; I can already see the conspiracy theories over the idea of the government mandatorily collecting children's and fathers' DNA. I doubt any government would risk losing voter support over this, at least for a couple of decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 11:20 AM
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Government-funded paternity tests in all hospitals for every newborn would be costly and were currently in a time where government spending is especially scrutinised.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 11:05 AM
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If you're not going to provide any argument, this is just your misspelled opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 11:00 AM
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I think mandatory paternity tests would solve all of it, however, logistically, I'm not entirely sure it's feasible.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 10:56 AM
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You could've given so many arguments; why would you destroy all logic by saying this? It's not sex workers' responsibility to provide sex, so certain members of society don't perform violent acts. It's a mental health crisis.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 10:54 AM
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I don't see why we can't acknowledge the way sex workers are treated and exploited by the industry as immoral but not necessarily blame the men (and sometimes women) who use them. In my country, prostitution is legal, it allows the government to control the practices within it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 10:50 AM
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In my opinion, you can hate the practices of an institution and see it as morally corrupt but also not necessarily blame the people who use it. The example you give is a good one; I don't blame the men who use prostitutes anymore than I blame the people who use fast fashion for its convenience.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 10:45 AM
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From what I've seen, women as a whole are often more supportive of sex work and sex workers than men. Most people who are fundamentally opposed to sex work are usually 1. Old 2. Religious. I'd argue reasons for being against sex work stem from the values people are taught to believe and raised with from an early age.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 10:39 AM
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Honestly, I'm all for mandatory testing, that way all children's paternity is confirmed and no fathers are raising children that aren't theirs without the insult of having one's partner ask for a paternity test. I think it's fair to point out that being sure of children's paternity, as a whole, is important. Similarly, it's pretty insulting to ask a faithful woman, who's given no reason to doubt them and who just had a baby for a paternity test by their partner. Having mandatory testing at a bab…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 10:30 AM
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I'd argue Men and Women as a whole actually want outcomes for society that are more similar than we realise. However, our perspectives and the reasons we both want them are often so different to our own perspectives we incorrectly view each other as in conflict. For example, on a feminist dating sub and a red pill one, if you look closely, on the whole, they don't necessarily have opposing views; on the contrary, they often argue similar sentiments, only from entirely different viewpoints. Most …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 10:17 AM
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Men care about women's issues either in the context of 1. This could be my Mother/Sister/Wife/Girlfriend and 2. A small number think "this could make me look good." Women have the same approach to men's issues. Similarly, when issues relating to people of colour are about up white people may still care to some degree but we still don't care nearly as much since we understand them a whole lot less.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 08:16 AM
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I fully agree with mandatory testing, it'll allow all children's paternity to be identified without having to insult mothers by asking for one despite them being loyal and giving no reason for doubt. It's ridiculous to claim that having your partner ask for one despite giving being no reason for them to suspect that isn't offensive. However, it's also very important that the true paternity of a child is identified early.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 08:05 AM
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This argument would only make sense if the 2% of men with concerns over paternity were denied access to a paternity test, which they aren't. A wife/Girlfriend's DNA or permission isn't required for a paternity test, they're free to get one.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:34 AM
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Your argument doesn't make a lot of sense because you're writing as if men with concerns over their child's paternity are denied access to one, which isn't the case. A girlfriend's/wife's DNA or permission isn't required for a paternity test, anyone who wants one is free to get one.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:31 AM
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Your argument would make a lot more sense if you need your girlfriend/wife's permission to get a paternity test, but you don't. Anyone who has concerns over paternity is entirely free to get one.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:27 AM
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You don't need your girlfriend/wife's permission for a paternity test.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:23 AM
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I think most would agree it's the opposite, it's only offensive if you've been loyal and given no reason for them to suspect you've cheated. That's why i'm all for mandatory, routine paternity testing cause then it eliminates the need to be directly asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:21 AM
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I look at my parent's relationship and understand why some women would find it highly offensive. My mum's been with my dad since she was only 19; they've spent their entire adult life together, she supported him when he wanted to drop out of law school and pursue journalism, moved to countries together where they only knew each other, and she had a difficult pregnancy. If my dad then turned to her and asked for a paternity test despite there never even being an inkling of infidelity, you can ima…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:37 AM
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I'm all for this, I think this should be implemented. I think it's not already because they don't have the resources or time. However, paternity tests are much easier and quicker than they used to be. If we can handle the number of daily PCR covid tests, we can have routine paternity tests. Not to mention it would generate more jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:17 AM
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Mandatory testing is entirely unnecessary though since men don't actually need the woman's DNA or permission to get a paternity test.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:11 AM
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I think you hit the nail on the head. It’s why men find women complicated, it’s because our attraction is. That’s not to say that if a man is very attractive women aren’t going to care. But women are more influenced by traits other than physical than men when it comes to attraction. I do think overall women are more picky with who we’ll sleep with. However, I think dating apps aren’t a proper representation of which men women are capable of being attracted to since the main and often only factor…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 12:34 AM
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Firstly, someone’s spending habits and priorities are usually quite evident before you marry someone. Why would you marry someone who’s going to put a lot of money into cosmetic procedures if you don’t value that. Secondly, women driving most of consumer choices is not necessarily out of pleasure or inessential. In 22 years I honestly can’t name a single time my dad bought the weekly groceries instead of my mum. My dad has a lot of strengths but can’t imagine how depressing and tasteless the hou…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 12:00 AM
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To say 70% of men lose money during marriages ignores that often more than one children are involved in a marriage. Raising children is a full time job and enormously impacts on women’s careers (or at least the spouse who is tasked with the majority of childminding). Even if a couple does choose to hire a nanny so both can work full time it’s still very expensive and sometimes not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 11:51 PM
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I think people don’t necessarily need to be super good looking for someone to still be attracted to them. I think as long as someone isn’t particularly unattractive people can still experience attraction towards them. I don’t necessarily think it’s transactional or they’re not attracted to them. Mainly because of how powerful the feeling and attraction is when you’re in love. When you’re in love with someone they genuinely feel like the most attractive person in the world to you irregardless of …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 11:10 PM
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If you went to the US and picked up 5 people off the street chances are in a lot of ways they’re not going to fall under what is considered average based off the census. The range and variation between individuals is not simply reserved for “outliers”. How individuals respond to social stimuli is largely influenced by factors such as prior experience and personality. It’s not random, in that it’s influenced by factors but it’s also not absent of variation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 10:53 PM
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You make a good point, people often take statistics at face value. We often read statistics based on averages ignoring factors like how vast the range is, the standard deviation etc. For example according to the US census 63% of the population is Christian. However, anyone who lives in the US would know that this generalised statistic by no means captures the nuance of religion in the US. For starters many define themselves as Christian’s but aren’t practicing. There are a myriad of denomination…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 10:45 PM
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It’s funny because I find as I’ve gotten older and encounter more people from different walks of life, the more I realise how varied and a little crazy people are. At least twice a day Someone will do or say something that I would never think to in a million years. Or I’ll encounter a person who is weird in a way unlike any other weirdo I’ve met. It may be because in my work I don’t only deal with one specific demographic, I witness every possible walk of life. I’ve found the only predictable th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 10:35 PM
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I don’t necessarily think they actually expect real life men to behave that way. That’s probably on part why it’s popular fanfiction because it’s a fantasy. Realistic scenario’s aren’t going to be popular material, that’s what real life is for.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 10:25 PM
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I think women like to imagine gay relationships mainly because the women likes/is attracted to both of the male characters and for a similar reason that lesbian is a popular porn category among straight men, for some reason women find it exciting to imagine them kissing. My theory is the reason a lot of women may be uncomfortable with dating bi men because they’re afraid that they’re actually gay and have convinced themselves they’re into women or prefer men. They may also find it difficult beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 10:21 PM
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I do like your analysis but I’d argue it’s mainly because the women likes/is attracted to both of the male characters and for a similar reason that lesbian is a popular porn category among straight men, for some reason women find it exciting to imagine them kissing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 10:16 PM
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Lmao the second I read your comment I knew there’d be someone who forgot lesbians exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 10:12 PM
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I think anyone would love that scenario to not work and instead pursue anything that they desire. The part that changes everything though is that you said it could be my current partner who is my husband and billionaire. I think this scenario could easily become a nightmare if the wealthy and powerful person your married to is cruel and controlling.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 10:09 PM
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I think it’s absurd to claim that women don’t find 80% of men attractive, and then provide no evidence that this is true. There’s also the overall question of what even is the “top 20%” of men? Is it based on physical appearance? Overall traits? Is the “top 20%” not different for every woman since not all women place the same value on certain traits? I think it’s a huge leap and incongruous to use data from dating apps as somehow evidence that women aren’t attracted to 80% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 10:04 PM
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Yeah for sure. I’ve noticed very attractive women who are kind and have depth are often the least influenced by looks. I think it’s because by having good looks themselves they don’t place good looking people on a pedestal the same way less attractive people often do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 09:55 PM
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Experiences honestly give so much more joy than expensive things in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 08:03 AM
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Women aren’t necessarily unable to find men under the top 20% attractive. Women just respond to dating apps more selectively than men who aim for quantity. Women have it built into us to be more selective when it comes to sex and relationships because the biological cost of having a baby is high. Whereas men have it built into them to desire quantity as having more sex and children the better chance of their offspring surviving. In most species on earth the females will be highly selective with …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 07:57 AM
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When I say “traits” you realise I don’t mean physical traits right? I mean your personality traits. It doesn’t matter if you behave the same on every date, not every woman is going to respond the same because their personality may not gel with yours etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 07:21 AM
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From what I’ve seen and experienced I think it depends somewhat on the woman’s level attractiveness. However, I have seen very attractive women with average looking guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 07:12 AM
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I think some people have an easier time blaming something external like their appearance rather than something intangible like a lack of connection that can’t necessarily be measured.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 07:08 AM
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I agree, I’d argue most women myself included aren’t going to even go on a first date with a guy who we flat out find physically unattractive. I went on a few dates with this really attractive guy, he’d even done some modelling. I kept postponing our 4th because we honestly didn’t have the “spark”. There was nothing wrong with him, we just weren’t right together. We had nothing in common, didn’t understand each other’s humour, the conversation was difficult. Every date felt exactly like the firs…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 10:14 PM
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I agree. If women are willing to go on a date with you but not a second one, it’s much more likely your charisma, social skills or personality. A lot of people have an easier time blaming something external like physical appearance than something intangible.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 10:06 PM
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Why are you assuming it’s entirely your physical appearance and not that you gel better with certain women. Not all women want the same thing, the dates that go well are probably with women who are after traits you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 10:02 PM
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It’s not something that can be seen within a couple generations. If a population is selecting for certain traits and not for others the traits that are disadvantageous will eventually become more and more recessive until they no longer exist. I’d argue that genetic selection for more attractive traits is something that has always been at work, it just takes 1000’s of years for it to be noticeable rather than incremental with each generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 09:55 PM
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How is this any different for men? I’m sure most men would also like to be with the top 20% of women but not every man in a monogamous society can have the top %. Also as someone who studied genetics and biotechnology, that first point doesn’t make sense. Overtime if a population is selecting for certain traits, disadvantageous traits become more less and less common in a gene pool and eventually no longer exist. I’d actually argue humanity has actually becoming more attractive and is still. How…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 09:48 PM
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I’ve never been someone who gets much from expensive items of clothing or jewellery. I’d much prefer a ring that’s sentimental over simply expensive. I’d rather save the money and we spend it on a really cool honeymoon or he just saves it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 09:29 PM
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That’s really sweet <3
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 09:26 PM
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I sympathise with this, but I also think it comes down to not marrying someone unhinged or capable of something like this. I have family friends who had messy divorces and friends who had messy breakups nothing that happened was ever totally out of the blue. I have seen relationships go sour fast, but I've never seen a case where it was a complete shock. I'm by no means saying the person on the receiving end deserved it one bit, but they were usually very aware that their partner was a bit unhin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 01:17 AM
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I can see that happening, there's something attractive about the class clown, not just in pulling women but also because they're usually popular in general. People want to be around really self-assured people, most people don't know what we're doing, so when someone comes along who gives no fucks and can make us laugh, it makes us feel like they know something we don't. They're also just good people to have in life to remind us not to give a fuck sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 01:01 AM
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I honestly think he would still, there's something really attractive about him but I do think it's somewhat influenced by his attitude and his overall aura.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 12:56 AM
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I'm highly confused by this story. Was the journalist trans? Trans people have perhaps the highest suicide of any group of people because of the prejudice they face. If she wasn't trans, living as a man would be exceptionally dysphoric, and I'm not surprised she'd be depressed. In the '60s, a baby boy who had a botched circumcision was forced to live as a woman as a social experiment; he always felt like he was a boy and committed suicide. People aren't meant to live as a gender they don't ident…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 12:54 AM
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I don’t know why people insist he’s unattractive, he’s not conventionally attractive but he’s still very attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 10:08 PM
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Wtf? Dude this is the sort of stuff I’m talking about. Half the important people in my life are men, I care just as much about men’s mental health. Women aren’t immune to depression or suicide though. In fact women are just as likely to be diagnosed with depression and attempt suicide. The difference is women in general are more risk averse and use suicide methods that are less likely to be fatal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 10:04 PM
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Yeah. That’s not gonna work this book is a straight up scam and I kinda feel bad for the guys who bought it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 04:33 AM
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Lmao! Wtf, I did not get that vibe from this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 04:32 AM
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Have you ever been in love though? I have. I am! When you’re in love with someone like I am you don’t even care if they’re the most attractive person in the world, you just want them. The person who you adore and who actually knows you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 04:31 AM
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You do realise that women and all people in general can fall in love and have a difficult time leaving someone they’re in love with and attached to. There is a concept called a “getaway car” where people in unhappy relationships will look outside the marriage and cheat but it often happens when someone is too cowardly to leave someone because their no longer in love. People cheat not simply because they saw something “better”, they cheat because they’re too weak to be honest and leave a relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 04:28 AM
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As a woman who’s used them and has a (semi-functional), head on my shoulders I realised pretty quick the amount of likes I had on dating apps was not equivalent to anything tangible. I’m 22 with an amazing boyfriend now who I met through friends over a year ago. Dating apps had me going on dates that lead to nowhere. There incongruous to real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 04:22 AM
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Not necessarily people who don’t “come from a good family” though
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 04:08 AM
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Move to a big city, most people will have some kind of complex family life and no one judges you or cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 03:56 AM
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In this day and age who actually judges people based on their family situation? It’s almost an assumed that most people you date will have some kind of complex family life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 03:53 AM
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I think if you classify “broken home” as simply divorce then yes. However, I’d argue that there are divorced families who get along better and have far more stable homes than many with parents who are still together but abusive and miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 03:50 AM
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I’m a little tired of people making broad claims like this one and giving their personal experiences as evidence. I don’t deny that certain individual experiences happened, but I do think that as individuals we are extremely biased in our interpretation of WHY events occurred, we also don’t have the benefit of knowing others motives or perspectives of what happened. Personal experiences are also not enough to make broad claims such as this one, if you said “in my experience…” that’s fine, but th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 03:44 AM
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This sub is rarely an actual debate or conversation anymore, it’s become a hub for people with incel adjacent ideology to get their absurd notions confirmed. More often than not the stuff people post here makes me question how out of touch with reality they’ve become.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 03:33 AM
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What that comes down to is them simply wanting a partner who has a similar personality/ values to them. Women aren’t a monolith every individual has a distinct personality and different desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 03:30 AM
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I think this book means honesty more in the sense of don’t hide who you are or try or try and be someone your not. Not honesty in the sense of throw politeness out the window.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 12:38 AM
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This book sounds like what people really mean by “just be yourself”. Someone who is 100% honest and open radiates confidence and that’s perhaps the most attractive quality anyone can have. I’ve noticed as I’ve gotten older that successful and popular people often have flaws and don’t necessarily have better abilities. What they do have is the ability to embrace every part of themselves and a belief in themselves that isn’t influenced by outside opinions. When someone doesn’t treat their flaws as…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 12:34 AM
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Yes. Despite what you may have been led to believe, women are also people and can detect and appreciate humour the same way men can.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 02:05 AM
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No doubt being sexually attractive has it hurdles, but I think you're overestimating people's ability to emotionally connect enough to be 'best friends'. People meet 100's of people a year and maybe 2 or 3 will become our friends each year, of them we maybe have 1-5 in a lifetime we call our best-friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 06:53 AM
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The privilege in having endless dating options does impact on people, just not in the way you'd expect. I've seen it happen time and time again, I believe having the option to date whoever you desire enables people to choose partners based on less shallow factors as they realise early on what actually matters in a partner. I've noticed my very attractive female friends often had a period in their teens and early 20's of dating any attractive guy who they're crushing on and learn a lot from it. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 06:45 AM
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Attractive women have the same insecurities and needs as everyone else. It's very common to see attractive women not necessarily settle down with a guy who is equally attractive but with a guy who is very funny, trustworthy or fulfils some other deeper value in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 06:27 AM
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Marriage as a financial arrangement makes a lot of sense with children involved and little sense without them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 06:21 AM
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The incentive comes in the exact same place it does a single person; to earn more money. The desire to earn more doesn't disappear once you are in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 06:18 AM
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Exactly, if you actually look at the comments, almost none of them were against the idea of equity or equality in relationships, many were pointing out that this scenario doesnt make sense in practice because all it means is that the person earning more has to compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 06:16 AM
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Many women who earned more than their partners commented on that post and made a fair point; they wouldn't want to split finances because it wouldn't benefit them as it would mean they had to compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 06:13 AM
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Equality is rarely applicable in a practical sense; equity is how society functions at its best. We all possess different strengths and weaknesses and for society to run smoothly we require a range of different strengths and abilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 06:07 AM
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Equality in a partnership sounds fine in principle but in practice equity is a more practical and advantageous way to divide responsibilities. Men and women aren't equal; were equitable, In a relationship, most possess different strengths and weaknesses but nonetheless overall we need both in society to function. I personally think it benefits no one to expect responsibilities to be 50/50 when we have different strengths and weaknesses. It's only natural for me as a woman to take on more of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 06:02 AM
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You neglected to mention that many of the commenters didn't disagree with the sentiment of equality or equity. I went and read them, many did engage with the hypothetical and pointed out there are more practical ways of dividing responsibilities. A lot of the comments highlighted that it makes more sense to split household chores based on hours worked. It is a pretty logical take, since as often higher earning jobs require more hours and the main obstacle of doing house chores is being tired fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 05:48 AM
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I agree, however, if I earned significantly more than my partner, I'd still rather buy a property within the price range of our combined income than what we could afford 50/50. Even if we unfortunately divorce and have to split the earnings from the property sale. I'd argue after a couple of decades, 50% of a higher-value property it's still likely a much better investment for me in the long run than the earnings made on a low-value property. Not to mention i'd rather live in a property within m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 05:38 AM
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Yeah, I get what you're saying, a tick list is often how people perceive relationships on this sub. As someone who's been in long-term relationships and in love, the idea of a tick list is laughable when compared to the complexity of human traits and what makes or breaks a relationship. You wouldn't try and make a friend based on a ticklist of traits, how is it any different in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 06:43 AM
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Practically, this scenario doesn't make a lot of sense, though. If I earned significantly more than my partner, I would want us to choose a house, car, insurance plan and children's education based on our combined earnings rather than what we could afford if we split 50/50. If we're talking about splitting money spent on individual items like clothes and recreation/lifestyle, then it makes more sense for those to be split based on earnings.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 06:02 AM
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"romantic love has only been a thing in recent history" lol, what? If we're talking about romantic love as in the ability to feel love, the emotion that developed hundreds of million years ago in mammals. Our ancestors have practised monogamy and have been driven to choose partners out of love for millions of years; as humans, we are naturally monogamous animals driven by emotional connection. If you're referring to romantic marriage as a recent phenomenon, you're right but no actual evidence su…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 05:48 AM
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I'm just glad he has my same perspective on age gaps. I don't see a problem with people in their 40s and beyond wanting to date someone in their mid 20's. My only judgement regarding age gaps is when the younger person is still 18-21. I think there's an imbalance and risk since their pre-frontal cortex is still going through tremendous development and they're lack of life experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 05:09 AM
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Do you honestly claim that all policy congress back is based on their vigilant moral code and not whatever serves their interest in re-election?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 04:57 AM
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It's nice to see someone else with my take on age-gap relationships. I really don't see a problem with anyone dating someone a lot younger or age gaps in general. There's a disparity when they're 18-24 for the reasons you mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 01:48 AM
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This is literally the point he made, though. People make huge leaps in their development from the ages of 18-25, it's the age people adjust to life in the real world and finish pre-frontal cortex development.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 01:42 AM
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It's entirely redundant. Most colleges don't even utilise affirmative action based on gender anymore. Women enrol in college more than men, including medical and law degrees. If anything, many colleges have had to limit the number of women they enrol, so the ratio doesn't exceed 55% female.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 12:19 AM
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I feel like people often misinterpret criticism of age-gap relationships to mean criticism of all relationships with an age gap. Most people aren't criticising a relationship between a 30-year-old and a 50-year-old. A 19-year-old and 32-year-old, however, is a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 10:42 PM
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Affirmative action isn't necessary these days for women to get into college. More women, on average, apply to tertiary education, graduate high school and, on average, have higher GPAs. The most significant contributor is a paradigm shift in the past couple of decades in people's perspectives of what's expected of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 10:35 PM
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This statement is pretty redundant though. The wage gap is closing more and more with each generation. For the first time in history, more women than men are enrolled in medical school, law school and tertiary education as a whole. Yes, it made sense for a wife to take on more of the share of housework when women worked a lot less but now it makes sense to share it when both work similar hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 03:49 AM
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No, I personally think sex only gets better the more connected you are with someone and I also think that it would be exhausting and awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 01:28 AM
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I've always thought that men also benefit from abortion just as much. If I accidentally got pregnant and were forced to have it, it would also financially and emotionally mess up my boyfriend's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 01:25 AM
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What kind of question is this? Are you forgetting that people have feelings and a soul? A relationship isn't just a negotiation to see what you can get out of each other their about emotional connection and love.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 01:11 AM
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In terms of housework, it would really depend on how many hours each of us works. It may be easier to just have in a cleaner once a week. Personally, I'd rather work fewer hours to take care of my kids than hire a nanny though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 01:01 AM
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It's not like I can't have a conversation with someone older, but when it comes to a partner, I have personally found that in general being the same age and life stage helps because values and expectations of each other are more aligned.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:12 AM
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I think what it really comes down to is people are allowed to have age-gap relationships (as long as they're legal) just like how people are also allowed to voice their criticism of age-gap relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:50 PM
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Hahaha, that's okay. I'm guessing you like older men then?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:46 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:33 PM
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I get it's hypothetical, but it's still a difficult hypothetical to answer because there's not enough information. Do they have the exact same personality? How does age factor into their behaviour? Am I my current age in this scenario? A lot of it is left up to the imagination.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:32 PM
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That implies that an ex-wife/partner is in the picture which would be difficult
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 03:55 AM
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These questions are kinda meaningless, though because in reality who's actually going to be in a situation like the one described?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 03:54 AM
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I also feel like i'd have a harder time relating to someone older, especially if all their friends were older. It'd just be such a sore point in the relationship. Relationships are built on mutual understanding and compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 03:52 AM
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It depends on the type of travel you're referring to, there's a lot of travel that's easily affordable to the middle class. I know student's who worked part-time and could save up enough in 6 months or so to travel around Europe for a month. There's a lot more to travel than an indication of wealth, it shows if someone is willing to get out of their comfort zone, is interested in seeing the world etc. It makes sense that if someone enjoys and values travel they'd want their partner to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 03:25 AM
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The other day my bf and I were talking about moving in together and he pointed out that since we travel well together, we can survive moving in together. Both our parents are still together and have said similar things. I think being able to travel together well is a big indicator of compatability.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 03:19 AM
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Depends on how old I am in this scenario. If I'm 25, a 15-year age gap feels like it would be more of an issue in the relationship than a 5-year one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 02:41 AM
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I know those numbers are from reasonably reliable sources, but I still have difficulty getting my head around them. I always thought I cried more than most, but I've only cried maybe twice a month this year.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 02:37 AM
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I don't doubt many men are frustrated with the state of their love lives; I do have a few male friends who confide in me about it. However, they never complain about being lonely or alone; they have active social lives and friends. My female friends also complain about their love lives but in a different way. I don't believe any of my female friends' love lives are any better on the surface than my male friends; some of them haven't been on a date in years. I think the main difference comes from…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 12:41 AM
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Being with the wrong person is the loneliest I've ever felt. I'd rather be single than with someone who makes me miserable. It is something I could only learn it through having a relationship, though. My first relationship was what taught me that simply being in a relationship is not something to aspire to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 12:30 AM
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Women not choosing at all to procreate is not the main factor of low-birth rates though. It's largely attributed to economic factors. Children are extremely expensive for fathers and mothers these days. Most couples only have two or three children at most and they're forced by financial conciderations more than anything else to wait until later to have them. The cost of raising children has skyrocketed in recent decades, even accounting for inflation. In the 60s a 25-year-old couple could get by…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 04:45 AM
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Do you ever stop to wonder if maybe you're in a vacuum? The men complaining on Reddit, discord and Twitter don't voice what the majority of men in society think and feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 04:25 AM
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No shit, famous people, wealthy people and very attractive people get special treatment in society, that's not a revolutionary concept. I disagree with the post because it doesn't make sense to say that because of this that personality doesn't matter in any context. It's a very out of touch and black and white way of looking at things.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 04:04 AM
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Or maybe these relationships exist because they're compatible and fell in love. In a lot of these couples they're only in their early twenties so it's not necessarily a case of them settling. I know that must be a really difficult concept for you to fathom, but other people are capable of forming meaningful connections outside of appearance. It's not everyone's most important factor in a relationship. You sound like someone who's never actually been in love. You're making a lot of sweeping claim…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 04:02 AM
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Personality can 100% make someone more appealing sexually, you can deny that all you want, but many people have experienced it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 01:17 AM
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Why would those women care what he does for work or his demeanour if they're just sleeping with him, though, in that case, all that would really matter is his physical attractiveness. Those factors would only come into play if they were looking for a long-term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 01:15 AM
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He was by no means unattractive enough to warrant him being a virgin. He was an average nice enough-looking guy. His personality was immediately offputting and creepy. It wasn't just that he couldn't get a date, he was also disliked by men and had trouble making friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 01:13 AM
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Literally...yes. You do realise women are human and capable of sensing personalities, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 01:10 AM
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Cause Adam Levine is famous, wealthy and has connections. She probably thought it would be stupid not to go along with it. I seriously believe that if Adam Levine weren't famous and said that to a girl on her dm's, she wouldn't reply; it doesn't matter how attractive he is; it was cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 01:06 AM
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He probably got tired of dating attractive women with whom he had nothing in common. If I remember correctly, part of the reason they started dating is they both made the same offbeat joke about AI on their Twitter. I don't see how you'd consider Elon dating Grimes as dating down, they're about the same attractiveness, and although Elon has a lot more money, Grimes was still a multi-millionaire when they met.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 01:01 AM
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She doesn't get any money from Elon.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:57 AM
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Yes, attractive people can get away with more, no doubt about it, but it's misleading also to claim that personality has no role to play in attraction. Also, I'd argue toxic, annoying women who are attractive similarly get away with a lot because they're attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:54 AM
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I don't believe gender has that much of a role in it, it's really determined by an individual's values and how shallow they themselves are.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:52 AM
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The thing about people with shitty personalities is that they very rarely realise they suck. It's easier for people to place all the blame on their appearance or claim others are shallow than realise both personality and looks play a role.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:49 AM
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Right? Idk what's so difficult to understand about this. People on this sub often take things really literally or have trouble understanding that not everything is black and white.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:43 AM
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I think the point he made is that when it comes to a proper relationship, it's very common to see women or men with someone that they'd likely not immediately be sexually attracted to. I've been in three long-term relationships, and I've discovered that the longer you are in a relationship with someone, the less their physical appearance matters. I think both men and women can become very sexually attracted to someone they may not have found immediately attractive based on their appearance. Your…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:40 AM
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You're confusing the conditions for a one-night stand vs a long-term relationship. A man's personality can definitely make them more or less sexually appealing, but it goes without saying that it takes time for this to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:29 AM
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I actually think the opposite; men get such little satisfaction from the apps that it makes them not give up on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:22 AM
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He wasn't really the type of asshole to be rude to waiters or service workers. My first inkling of his assholery was when he was driving, he speed a lot and got road rage and unreasonably angry at the most minor occurrences. Being an asshole or bad news can quite honestly manifest itself in 1000's of different ways. Some can be well-educated, polite and generous on the surface, but have a side to them that is deeply controlling and entitled. In my opinion a super realistic depiction of this phen…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:18 AM
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Personally, I find it insignificant in the grand scheme of a relationship; I've always been a serial monogamist so I don't go on many first dates. I've been with my current partner for over a year. Him paying on the first couple of dates feels insignificant when put in the perspective of the 100's of dinners, outings and trips away we've been on that we both paid for. I do agree that men paying for the first date thing is just a social norm, no doubt about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:01 AM
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Swiping right is about as much energy as burping, people don't give the same energy to everyone they swipe right on. Swiping right just means you'd be open to dating them, it's not the same as actively putting in effort and pursuing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 02:02 AM
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I actually wouldn't mind at all from the 2nd date; my current boyfriend actually said to me that he was worried when I kept insisting on paying on the second date that I didn't think it was a date or didn't want to owe him. By the 3rd date, I think I was paying my half. I do think that it becomes more of an issue the further into dating you are. For me, him paying during the courtship phase is more of a gesture and not the same thing as paying once you've properly established you're a couple. To…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 02:00 AM
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Sometimes the issue is just that certain women have yet to develop the skills to determine which men are bad news and which aren't. When I was 18, I had my first boyfriend, and he was a complete asshole/idiot who progressively treated me worse; he wasn't particularly attractive either. He was normal and nice at first, but I couldn't see the red flags because I didn't know many men or had been on many dates. He got progressively worse over the course of our dating, but by then, I was already emot…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 01:51 AM
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All of the traits you described have evolutionary advantages even today, tall men on average have better heart health, IQs and provide a sense of protection and strength for your family which is always an important quality even in modern times. A masculine jawline is associated with testosterone but it even goes beyond that; a strong jawline is a universal indicator of health. A weak jawline is associated with sleep apnea, high blood pressure, depression, and ADHD in children. My boyfriend has k…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 08:27 AM
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I'm glad you agree because I feel like it's a universal reality that everyone's a little shallow when it comes to dating. Particularly when it comes to dating apps, there's little else to judge on. It still plays a large role in real life but not as much as dating apps. In general, we're all, to some extent, influenced by physical attractiveness and were all not fully aware of how much it influences us. Some people than others, yes, but I've personally never been able to attribute this to one ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 04:15 AM
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I'll always offer to split, but if he accepts on date 1, I will still feel like he's not interested and might ghost; the offer still stands, but it will make me think he's not into me. By a certain point, I do agree that it goes beyond a gesture and becomes an unequal partnership. By the 3rd or 4th date, I expect us to be at a stage where we are splitting bills, I want an equal partnership. I am really not convinced the free food thing happens as much as men make out it does. A meal costs $20-30…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 03:59 AM
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Inadequate women suffer the same fate as men 60% of homeless people are women and girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 01:29 AM
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I'm not talking to you personally, I have no idea what your experience was, but anyone can waste thousands on therapy and gym memberships; you have actually to put effort into them to see results. People understand this regarding gym memberships but don't often realise what is required of them in therapy. My father is a therapist and has vented about how many patients don't actively apply techniques in between sessions and often quit in exasperation if he disagrees with them about where the sour…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 12:28 AM
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The trope of a man pursuing a woman who only dates good-looking meatheads, despite clearly not being her type, and then getting offended when she puts him in the friend zone exists for a reason too. Many women don't go for douchbags, but maybe these women aren't always guys type. Pursuing the wrong person is pretty much universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 12:20 AM
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I'd argue this isn't a gender-specific criticism; many women have the exact same criticism about what men value in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 12:13 AM
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I've definitely witnessed a number of commentors who simultaneously want a woman with a low n count yet claim a woman is wasting their time if they haven't given it up after a certain number of dates. They just don't see the irony in their statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 12:10 AM
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As a woman who is financially capable of paying for my own meal, I agree the concept is dumb. However, in practice, it's a bit more complicated. If a guy doesn't offer to pay on the first date my first thought is that he's not into me. The majority of men will offer to pay, and I'll always feel a little awks and offer to split, but it's a nice gesture. By the fourth date with my current boyfriend, I insisted on paying despite him wanting to pay because it couldn't keep going on like that, I cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 12:07 AM
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Regarding the first conflict, I agree that there is a significant sub-set of women who go for douchbags and then claim "all men are douchebags". However, I also think that men who are clearly not this woman's type will pursue these women and then feel cheated when they put them in the friend zone. The irony is some women would never go for douchbags and probably consider this particular guy their type; however, the guy may not consider this woman his type and is more attracted to the type of wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 11:44 PM
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I personally don't consider maturity something we all fully reach at 18 that stays consistent throughout adulthood. We continue to mature and grow through experience well into adulthood. An 18-25-year-old will likely be in a completely different life stage and state of development than a 35-40-year-old.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 06:47 AM
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I've actually witnessed a couple of scenarios within my friends of this phenomenon where women in their twenties, such as myself, might find some men (such as famous people, professors or teachers, etc) who are in their 40's/50's attractive but mainly in fantasy wouldn't date them in reality if it were an option because we lose respect for them as soon as they show interest. There is something fundamentally immature about wanting to date someone half your age just because they're sexually attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 04:25 AM
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I feel like it's pretty intuitive that someone walking somewhere on the street is probably not going to be as open to having a conversation as opposed to someone waiting/sitting down somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:44 AM
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It really is pretty intuitive when and when not it's an appropriate time to approach. It's a lot less complex when you just consider it from the perspective of normal social cues rather than "rules" and "amendments". I think that oftentimes men and women are falsely led to believe that the opposite gender is a complicated mystery that can be mastered by finding some "cheat code", from love gurus and pick-up artist marketing schemes. I feel like we often actively ignore our better instincts. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 12:02 AM
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That's interesting, I used hinge, not bumble. I wonder if this feature makes people more upfront. I remember asking guys what they were looking for who I suspected were only after a hookup, and they'd usually say they were "open to anything". If I'm being sincere, I don't believe people can be open to just a hookup and simultaneously a proper relationship, at least not from the same person. I think they're very different headspaces to be in. Maybe it's different for men, but at least for me, whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 11:34 PM
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This is making me laugh cause I know a 5'7 guy who's slept with over 50 women (He's a friend now, but we dated for a bit, and unfortunately, I'm one of them lol). That being said, he's got a good body, an attractive face and a super outgoing personality. Judging from his Instagram, he's at a festival or party every weekend. He's also kinda offbeat and is into anime and gaming. Height is not a death sentence, it's an asset if you're tall and a hindrance if you're short, but it's not the be-all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 11:44 PM
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I disagree; I've noticed that people who put up a stink over being rejected can draw attention to it, and it is never an attractive attribute. I've also noticed that guys who counter rejection with humour and move on quickly can make it seem like no rejection even happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 11:38 PM
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Being attractive definitely helps, but I've also known a couple of attractive men not to be super successful because they didn't have a very charismatic personality. I have known some average-looking guys to do well with women because they're outgoing, funny and charming. That being said, even though they weren't super attractive, they weren't unattractive, meaning they were of decent weight, at least 5'7 and facially were at least a 5. I think that if a guy fails this baseline level of attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 11:33 PM
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Another thing I want to add is that recently, I've instantly told guys who approached me that I have a boyfriend (I do). One guy said "I don't mind" and another said "sure you do". Sometimes women aren't single, which isn't just an excuse to instantly reject a guy; it's letting them know they're wasting their time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 11:27 PM
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All of that depends on where I'm being approached and how old the guy is. I've had guys approach me on the street while I'm walking somewhere, and honestly, that is not a good approach; I'm probably busy and not in the headspace to have a conversation. I will try and get out of the conversation as soon as possible. I've also had guys who appear to be in their 40's approach me since I was 17 (I'm 22), and that's an instant no. However, I've had guys approach me while sitting down at my University…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 05:59 AM
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Kill time. Maybe it's just my friends and me, but we don't really have casual sex; a few of us had it once or twice when we were 18-19 and quickly realised we didn't enjoy it. We're not prudes or anything, and we still like to drink, party and experiment with drugs occasionally, but most of us don't have sex unless we're in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 05:40 AM
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It really doesn't make sense because, statistically speaking, men cheat at slightly higher rates than women. Also, I feel like men with these ways of thinking always leave love out of the equation. Biologically speaking, men and women don't have an easy time leaving someone, especially the longer they've been together. Our bodies and brains want us to find and stay with a loyal companion and stay with them, and it's why heartbreak feels so awful. When you're in love with someone, it doesn't matt…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 01:55 AM
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I feel like in regards to behaviour this extreme, there should be signs before you marry someone. The odds of not getting divorced increase the longer two people have been together before marriage. It also helps if they've lived together, travelled together etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 01:46 AM
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I agree, but the issue is that the men who are looking for hookups on these apps message in the exact same way as men looking for real relationships! Idk if they consciously know they're doing it, but men looking for just a hookup will lead women on. Men will say anything to get into women's pants. They'll feign honest interest in your personality and ask questions about your life, future, family, etc. I know this because I messaged for a month with a guy only to realise 30 minutes into our date…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 01:33 AM
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I 100% agree! Dating apps are not an accurate representation of the actual dating scene in the same way social media is not an accurate representation of people's real lives. It's just an app created with an algorithm to ensure certain people are as hooked on them as possible. Men stay on the apps because they haven't received many matches or the kinds they'd hope for, so they keep swiping and "playing the game" because they haven't "won" it yet. Not realising that the odds were stacked against …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 01:21 AM
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I had a group of female friends who all got on hinge when we were 18, we are all 22 now. Hardly any of us actually went on dates from it despite talking to guys on it. The ones that did never went anywhere. Often we'd delete it or simply not use it for months. Women don't have the same satisfaction or dopamine hit from these apps. At first, we may get lots of matches which feels good, but the satisfaction wears off fast. We realise that the matches are just from men swiping right on hundreds of …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 01:16 AM
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The 26% is probably an accurate statistic. "Average monthly users" can also mean they don't include people who have the app downloaded but aren't actively using them. There would be months when I could just forget I had the app and leave it stagnant, despite being single. I noticed the same pattern in my friends. I personally found I'd develop this burnout from using them and learnt early on I wasn't going to find anything real on them. I just used them for fun and never took them seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 12:46 AM
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As a woman who's been on and off the apps and has friends who did, I can give insight into the main reason for deleting the apps. Usually, probably similar to men, we'd download them out of boredom, recently single or because we see our friends are using them. The main thing I experienced was the feeling that the apps suck any romance out of the dating process. I knew that the guys I was talking to were probably having similar conversations with 10 other women who looked similar to me at the sam…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 12:33 AM
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Not what I said…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 07:12 AM
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Just because it sometimes ends in divorce or unhappiness, I don’t think that love and marriage can ever be pointless. Or not worth trying it as a whole. Marriage and relationships can still be a beautiful thing for many years. They’re not erased because it didn’t last or had periods of unhappiness. Life and love is full of disappointments and struggles but choosing to give up entirely on it because of the risk of it going wrong is not part of the human spirit. In divorce and love there was happi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 07:10 AM
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No one is taking fwb situations here, the whole idea of fwb is you can see other people. We’re taking about clear monogamous relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 07:01 AM
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Not being a virgin before you met your partner is not the same as lying and cheating behind your partners back. That’s such a weird comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 06:59 AM
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That’s ridiculous! Cheating is so much more disrespectful to your partner than leaving them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 06:57 AM
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I dumped my first verbally abusive ex bf. I fell out of love about a couple months before I left him because he said some insanely mean things to me when he was insecure and took his anger out of me that he couldn’t take back. I did start to have a more wandering eye during this period, it made me realise I didn’t love him anymore. I broke things off and was single for about 2 years after. I loved being single, I relished getting in touch with my freedom. I needed those years to understand what …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 06:54 AM
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I’m so sorry, you didn’t deserve that. Don’t believe for a second his cheating had anything to do with you. It was likely him needing to inflate his own ego cause he was insecure and a heartless person. I don’t blame you for taking him back, I also want to see the best in people. You honestly shouldn’t have any guilt over cheating in retaliation, obviously it didn’t make you feel any better but a wounded animal will lash out. I’m glad you moved on you deserve better. When I say you deserve bette…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 06:34 AM
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Same.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 06:22 AM
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What about the other 50% of marriages that don’t end in divorce tho? Just because it’s a risk doesn’t mean it’s not worth trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 12:44 AM
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Lol ur right, I should keep my judgements to myself. I just can’t help but feel bad for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 12:42 AM
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Just leave them? You don’t have to cheat if the sexual chemistry is gone, why must you find the need to do something so malicious to someone you claimed to once love?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 11:57 AM
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Why’d you do that bro! That’s so mean! Just leave her don’t play with her like that :(
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 11:54 AM
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Throwing out a loving, honest relationship for validation from the opposite sex is such a mistake in my opinion. True love is so hard and the most beautifully fulfilling things to find in this world. I get the motivation though, we all feel insecure at times.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 11:51 AM
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Did you ever communicate with your partner you found the sex boring? Or was it too touchy? You maybe could’ve spiced it up if she was aware.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 11:48 AM
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My parents are the exception. Coming on 50 years! It’s not impossible. They’ve had tough times (my eldest brother is severly intellectually disabled) but they stayed together through all of it. Don’t stop believing in love. There’s still a decent amount of couples who stay together for decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 11:46 AM
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That’s why couples make their own vows now. Also what about the vow we make to be the best we can be for our partners? If a partner becomes a violent, erratic addict and refuses to stop or get help despite receiving support how are you gonna blame the other partner for leaving them for leaving them?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 11:39 AM
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If your partner leaves you for that, they're heartless.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 09:19 AM
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The height thing on dating apps is evil! As a 5'1 woman, I generally can't tell people's height that well and don't care but I found myself suddenly judging guys' attractiveness based on their height which was never something I cared about before. I once caught myself about to swipe left cause a guy was "only 5'9" and I thought wtf? I don't even know what 5'9 looks like? this man could be the love of my life, but I'm judging him on something I've suddenly been conditioned to value? That's when I…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 09:18 AM
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What about the loyalty to be the best person you can be for your partner though? I had a bad bout of depresion a couple months ago when my brother went to rehab. For a month I was wallowing in pity, not getting out of bed and trauma dumping on my bf. One day he tole me he was worried sick and didn't sleep the night before and he had work that day. I realised one night I was being selfish, I went and got counselling, forced myself to eat again and go to the gym, reconnected with friends and made …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 09:09 AM
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I never said they shouldn't help them get better, that's a given. Disabled or chronically sick is a different story. I was referring more to situations like if someone has a depressive episode and refuses therapy/takes it out on their partner, gets laid off and doesn't try and seek a new job for months on end or is an addict and won't stop using.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 09:02 AM
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Makes me think of Jay-z and beyonce, I'm sure he wanted validation but beyonce loved him for him :(
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:58 AM
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Why would you sabotage something good and real for something fleeting?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:56 AM
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Danny devito is pretty charming tho, even if he wasn't rich or famous.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:55 AM
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We need to delete dating apps, I was on them for 4 years, and they only made me confused and miserable! They're not designed to find real love, they're designed for people to keep coming back and bring out our most superficial nature. They're so unromantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:53 AM
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the difference is if they make an effort to change/get better during the low point and how long this low point lasted. If someone's depressed, get's laid off, etc it's heartless for a partner to leave immediately but if it's been a significant amount of time and they make no effort to change or get better then I don't really blame them for leaving.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:50 AM
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"People won't leave you right away but stay a loser long enough and it's bye bye." This is actually pretty fair, your partner should tolerate your low moments, we all have them but if it keeps going with no end in sight and there's no effort to get better then they have every right to leave!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:47 AM
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Not use using a boomer meme to literally prove our point! I'm dead
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:43 AM
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If he said grooming, I wouldn't have made the joke but c'mon "fashion' is kinda funny. If a woman wrote, "I should attract tons of men; I have great fashion!" It'd be equally funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 07:03 AM
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If you think of it from an evolutionary/biological perspective, it kinda makes sense men cheat more. Women want the absolute best possible mate to her raise her children, men play a numbers game.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 06:59 AM
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I have the opposite experience in my relationships, I fall more deeply the more I'm with someone. The idea of breaking up becomes more and more awful the longer I'm with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 06:55 AM
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Did you love your girlfriend? Was the relationship spark gone?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 06:47 AM
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Statistically, men cheat slightly more often tho? I'm a serial monogamist, so I guess I just have different dating preferences from others. I want only one person ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 06:46 AM
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Depends on what you mean by well-groomed. Pete Davidson looks like he rarely showers and it doesn't seem to hurt his chances. I kinda like a scruffy, laid-back, undone look on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 06:44 AM
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Women "overvalue" themselves these days because we can finally earn degrees and earn as much as them. We no longer have to settle for financial security.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 06:41 AM
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Do men get that intense unexplainable shame when they first started to masturbate that women do? I didn't even know what I was doing, but I knew in my gut it was shameful.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 06:36 AM
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It's not that women aren't or can't be horny; it's just that we're not as intensely horny as men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 06:34 AM
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Men do insane things for horniness that I rarely if ever see in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 06:33 AM
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I would argue women are not as horny as men. I am a woman myself, and I've never seen the absolute horniness that men have in a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 06:32 AM
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For centuries, women have been practically ingrained in us to alter ourselves to be more dateable and attractive constantly. Women would bind their feet, and wear corsets that alter our organs, make ourselves hairless, surgically alter our appearance, and paint our faces. We had no way of supporting ourselves if we weren't married to a man. Now that women can financially support themselves the power has shifted. Men's value of being able to support their spouse financially isn't as valuable anym…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 06:29 AM
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"Being yourself" actually means stop trying so hard! be comfortable in yourself and stop trying to behave in a way that you think will impress women because people see through that; it's off-putting when someone tries to be something they're not. Confidence is an underrated but extremely attractive quality. Not false egotistical confidence but someone who knows who they are and is comfortable in their own skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 06:10 AM
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This! My brother's dating profile is terrible! he looks like a douche, isn't smiling in any of his photos, has friends but chose to post only solo pictures, shows none of his personality or interests and looks less attractive than he is irl. Of course, a woman wouldn't swipe right. When he asked me for advice, he didn't take any of it and argued they were good photos.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 06:05 AM
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100%, People who have shit personalities rarely, if ever, are aware they have shit personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 06:00 AM
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ahh yes, the #1 quality that makes women's panties drop, when men have "fashion"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 05:58 AM
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Of course familiarity and a casual social setting gives better odds. A woman would be crazy to go home with some man she just met on the street or meet him at his house after only speaking on a dating app.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 05:56 AM
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I've rejected a few guys who I found attractive and even a super handsome guy who was a bit out of my league before cause they made it clear they only wanted a hook-up, and I don't like casual sex; I can't separate sex from emotions, I want a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 05:52 AM
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So true! I've rejected many good-looking guys cause it was obvious they only wanted a one-night stand or something casual and that's not what I was looking for. Has nothing to do with me thinking I'm out of their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 05:44 AM
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you monster.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 05:41 AM
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It's bullshit. They're likely unappealing guys in terms of personality. From experience, people with shitty personalities rarely realise they suck to be around. So they blame their appearance and claim all women are entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 05:40 AM
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True, he wasn't traditionally good-looking, but he was a very sexy guy. I see why Ariana fell for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 05:36 AM
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Happens all the time, think of Mac Miller and Ariana Grande.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 05:32 AM
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Funny, confident, charismatic men can pull 10s. Women (and all people in general) are highly attracted to people who are fun to be around and make them feel cool by association. Some of the most popular men in high school were not always the most attractive, they were the people who had confidence, were funny and made you feel good every time you spoke to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 05:32 AM
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If I'm being honest, I'd date any race, men of any race are equally attractive to me. However, I won't date someone who has a drastically different culture from me. I don't agree with certain cultures/religions' values and perceptions and don't see how a relationship would work. Do most people feel this way?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 05:27 AM
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All the couples my age that I know are pretty equal in terms of looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 05:20 AM
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Honestly, this is quite alien to women because 1. We don’t have the same uncontrollable sexual desires as men and 2. We don’t necessarily realise our clothing choices are inherently sexual. If you go into any fashionable women’s athletic-ware retailer the clothing is all going to be revealing and skin tight. Women are more concerned with selecting clothes that are cute and trendy than conservative. I used to work in retail and would occasionally have Muslim women come in asking for modest clothi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 07:29 AM
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Give a source then?? What exactly do you think this study proves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 09:41 AM
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Anyway the 80 20 rule isn’t real it was based off a dating website. Women aren’t exactly celebrated for their number of sexual partners so it makes sense that when women do choose to have sex they’re going to be more picky. All I’m saying is it’s not to the extent of 80-20. That study was baseless.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 09:19 AM
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The 80-20 thing was a study developed based on dating apps. It found that women only found 20% of men appealing based on their profiles. However it can’t be applied to real life because dating apps don’t work in the same way a woman’s attraction to men does. Women are a lot less visual then men, usually a large portion of a woman’s sexual attraction to men comes from being with a man in person and can’t be replicated through a online profile. It’s why porn and strip clubs etc don’t have the same…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 05:39 AM
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Most women aren’t hooking up with different men on a frequent basis either. I have a friend group of girls I graduated high-school with almost 5 years ago. They’re all young and attractive but don’t have casual sex. Half of them have never had sex with a guy outside of a relationship and the other half tried it once and realised it wasn’t fulfilling. They joke about sex and dress however they wish (usually not modestly), but the reality is modern women don’t like casual sex as much as the media …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 05:25 AM
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I mean you’re kinda right. He does get concerned for my safety. Psychologically speaking when men express chivalrous behaviour towards women it’s a sign they’re in love.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 11:46 PM
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Also it’s not as though opening my car door is an enormous burden on him, I do thank him every time and I’m sure he loves to feel appreciated and helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 11:44 PM
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I guess the difference is men don’t have to behave this way, it’s a choice. Like I said my two previous boyfriends didn’t behave this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 11:35 PM
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Well in my defence he works full time and I work part time because he finished uni a year earlier than me. As an example of how he pays more is we’re going overseas for 5 days and accomodation is $1200 all up. He is insisting on paying 700 and I’ll pay 500 because he knows I don’t make as much as he does. It’s also so he doesn’t have to compromise by getting cheaper accomodation that’s more in my budget.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 11:34 PM
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I make an effort to accept it for sure once I realised it was just him being kind. I still have a nagging feeling I need to give back though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 11:30 PM
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I think as a whole they’re entirely seperate discussions. Like if a man wants to open a door for a woman that’s not really relevant to a discussion about the gender pay gap or how women are treated in certain cultures etc. Also I believe in equity, not necessarily treating everyone the exact same because we all have different needs and desires etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 11:30 PM
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It’s probably more of a personal insecurity of mine then. I logically know it’s stupid but my knee jerk reaction is to tell him I can do it myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 11:26 PM
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I had the exact same thought. I’ve noticed in real life that men of all scales of attractiveness are dating. Usually they’re dating women of equal attractiveness and they usually met organically. I’ve also noticed that independent of how attractive someone is, how much money they make etc, the main deciding factor for if they have a gf or not is how social they are. Meaning how much they meet new people, how comfortable they are socialising, how many friends they have etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 11:15 PM
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My bf is my age but my dad talks over my mum too. It’s not really an age factor
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 04:56 AM
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Hinge? Tinder? any other dating app???
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 03:37 AM
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My boyfriend is well known as a really great guy a bunch of his friends have come up to me and told me that. He's a very selfless guy and a true gentleman. We've been together for 7 months and he still opens the door for me every time, randomly buys me flowers etc. during the beginning our conversations were very balanced. However, once we became more comfortable he has a bad habit of getting excited and talking for long periods and interrupting when I start speaking. This is something he never …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 03:25 AM
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I'll say the same, on dates the conversations are often balanced. This is dating though, what's your experience in relationships? Not just romantic, because I've noticed men in my life often talk over me and often I'll have to repeat myself because they weren't listening.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 03:18 AM
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