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| 10 | Q4RP: Do you think it's okay to lie to women or hide your intentions in order to get sex? | Question for RedPill | ElectronicReport | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 02:43 AM |
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| 2 | Q4RP: Why is "the wall" such a notable topic, and why do you care about the sexual lives of old women?No, thats the first time you've claimed to have seen his videos or made any claim to have actually read/viewed his stuff. In my third comment of our discussion, I bring up that I've seen some of Peterson's videos. I then mention in later comments that I've seen/heard some of his stuff. Clearly you're only seeing what you want to in what I've posted. But I am interested in which event you attended, particularly if it was recorded, which one was it ? I'm not going to tell you the event I attended … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/18 12:22 AM |
| 3 | Q4RP: Why is "the wall" such a notable topic, and why do you care about the sexual lives of old women?You're probably getting frustrated now as this is a debate sub, I know what I'm talking abut, and I'm disagreeing with your view... and being someone who posts on circlejerking-for-the-purpose-of-mocking-the-afflicted subs you're not entirely used to that. If you look at my post history, you'll see that the place I've spent most of my time is HERE on PPD. Your participating in subs mocking other people means you associate with exactly the sort of "not-lovely people" you accused RP of being. If y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/18 11:55 PM |
| 5 | Q4RP: Why is "the wall" such a notable topic, and why do you care about the sexual lives of old women?I would have thought that someone into mocking others for an unfortunate situation wouldn't call out RP for doing the same. And, to be fair, I think that a more reasonable action would be helping those guys get out of that situation, and away from the viewpoints they create, and to a better place .... rather than getting your personal entertainment from mocking them. I already said in my earlier comments that that's what I go there to do! No. I read the section around the quote you presented. Bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/18 11:27 PM |
| 4 | Q4RP: Why is "the wall" such a notable topic, and why do you care about the sexual lives of old women?Yes, because it seemed extremely hypocritical for a commenter on those subs, dedicated to that aim, to jeer at RP commenters for doing what both those subs are dedicated subs for doing. Call me a hypocrite, then. I understand the purposes of those subs, but I personally go there for different reasons. I go there because there are other people who share my views on how unfortunate and toxic certain viewpoints are. My honest opinion is that mocking incels also falls into the category of unfortunat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/18 11:11 PM |
| 2 | Q4RP: Why is "the wall" such a notable topic, and why do you care about the sexual lives of old women?Okay, fair enough. I'm really not a fan of people making snap judgments, and I think doing so is unfair. You've assumed that I haven't looked at JP's original sources and suggest that's a problem, but it seems you haven't looked at what I've actually posted in the subs you've mentioned and are chastising me for having posted there. I do not condone making fun of people who are in dire straits. What exactly didn't you like about what JP said ? Jordan Peterson is arguing that society should make s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/18 10:36 PM |
| 4 | Q4RP: Why is "the wall" such a notable topic, and why do you care about the sexual lives of old women?I did not downvote you. That is the complete 100% truth. I've read the sub rules and I follow them. If this is how this place is run, with you--a moderator--accusing me of things I haven't done, making assumptions about me based on my views of Jordan Peterson and the subs I've posted to, and arguing with me about things that have nothing to do with the topic of the OP we're posting under, then I may just have to unsub. Up until this point, I haven't had a single issue with the mod team here. I o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/18 10:08 PM |
| 3 | Q4RP: Why is "the wall" such a notable topic, and why do you care about the sexual lives of old women?You're arguing against another woman's interpretation of what he said because you personally find her interpretation outrageous? You didn't actually check out what he had said and why he was saying it? What? No. I'm not arguing against what the New York Times journalist wrote. I agree with her. It's Peterson and some of his views that I disagree with. Here's an example, straight from the article, of something I don't like: Violent attacks are what happens when men do not have partners, Mr. Peter… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/18 09:46 PM |
| 4 | Q4RP: Why is "the wall" such a notable topic, and why do you care about the sexual lives of old women?But in order to make sure I wasn't launching off on someone who didn't deserve it I checked to make sure you were a Blue Flair with a TBP history before replying. Did you even look at what I wrote, or just that I'd posted there? And yet, there you are. Participating on subs who's declared purpose is to make fun of suffering men. I'm not making fun of those men. I found those subs (and this one) after the Toronto van attack and have been trying to figure out how we as humans can help people get o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/18 09:21 PM |
| 8 | Q4RP: Why is "the wall" such a notable topic, and why do you care about the sexual lives of old women?Is this supposed to be referring to me directly? The comments I make on those subs are usually in response to posts about actual or threatened violence (including rape), or statements that I hope people can get out of toxic echo chambers and learn healthier ways of coping. My most recent comments on r/IncelTears, for example, are in response to the NYT article released yesterday about Jordan Peterson and some of the awful things he's said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/18 08:13 PM |
| 2 | What are some things you see in PPD that you wish weren’t present / could be changed?Can we also stop with the accusations of strawmanning? I have to roll my eyes every time I see that term because it's thrown around so often. Also, the comments accusing people of strawmanning usually add little to the conversation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/18 08:05 PM |
| 0 | What are some things you see in PPD that you wish weren’t present / could be changed?Exactly. I've done my research on TRP. I don't just hate it on principle. I'm sure other Bloops (maybe not all) can say the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/18 08:03 PM |
| 3 | What are some things you see in PPD that you wish weren’t present / could be changed?Now you’re butt hurt because we think too little of them? I think it's that we think too little of the douchebags on RP (which I acknowledge are not all men on RP) that talk about women like we're nothing but objects for their pleasure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/18 07:58 PM |
| 2 | What are some things you see in PPD that you wish weren’t present / could be changed?This comment is a prime example of my response to the OP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/18 07:53 PM |
| 2 | What are some things you see in PPD that you wish weren’t present / could be changed?People immediately making assumptions about other posters/people, or insulting each other. Also, unwillingness to consider other perspectives. Usually these things come from the same posters and can be boiled down to not following Rule 1 (Be Civil/No Personal Attacks). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/18 07:50 PM |
| 7 | Q4RP: Why is "the wall" such a notable topic, and why do you care about the sexual lives of old women?On RP sphere subs you see it all the time. "X woman hits wall hard!!!" and comments like "HAHA finally, The Wall always comes to these sluts!!" What lovely people making these comments. /s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/18 07:47 PM |
| 5 | Did Meghan Markle hit the wall? If so, when?Yep, RP with the “new” terms for things that already have names. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/18 05:59 PM |
| 2 | [Q4W] What are your experiences with men lying to get sex?Yep, here we go with commenters trying to excuse the guy’s actions and put it all on you. We can always count on some of the men and/or Terpers here to blame women no matter what. Never change, PPD. /s ETA: My response to the OP was met with a statement of “fact” that I’m unattractive for LTR because of what happened in my situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/18 04:54 AM |
| 2 | [Q4W] What are your experiences with men lying to get sex?You could be right... But I’ll take a second here to mention that I’m not fat. Not even close. Many people, including this guy, have also told me that I’m very attractive (including “conventionally”). I think this guy was what you’d call a “fuckboy” regardless of me. In the end I’m glad not to be with him because I want someone who treats me with respect. You were not attractive enough for LTR. It’s interesting that you automatically assume there’s something wrong with me or my appearance for th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/18 04:19 AM |
| 2 | [Q4W] What are your experiences with men lying to get sex?A few weeks | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/18 05:52 AM |
| 4 | [Q4W] What are your experiences with men lying to get sex?I met a guy like this online. I let him know I wasn't interested in casual sex and wanted a relationship. He told me he was looking for the same thing. He was initially nice and respectful. After we slept together, he didn't contact me for several days and then tried to bootycall me for weeks after. I never met up with him again. How did it affect you after you realized they were using you for sex? I felt shitty, gross and used. I was angry with him for how he treated me and angry with myself fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/18 03:42 AM |
| 2 | How many women actually want to be in a “male-led” relationship?Just wondering, do you mean indolent, invalid or something else? Involent isn't a word. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/18 03:23 AM |
| 1 | Are attractive people with sh**ty personalities the biggest 'problem' in the dating world?I think the biggest problems in the dating world are people treating each other as disposable, lying, and using one another. There's quite a lack of integrity these days, and I think I goes beyond just attractive people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/18 07:59 AM |
| 3 | Women have inherit hatred and disdain for men with anxiety.You'd lose attraction to your husband in the event that he develops anxiety. Just admit that. What makes you think you know u/whitebunny87 better than she knows herself, especially based on one comment she's written? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/18 07:22 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Which common beliefs on PPD do you never see in your daily life?Hypergamy Women using men for free dinners, etc. n-count being indicative of someone's likelihood to cheat People divorcing each other for superficial reasons False rape accusations occurring rampantly Edit: Added to list | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/18 06:57 AM |
| 3 | Feminism Vs. Dating: Why Are They At Odds? (or are they?)You guys are so stinkin' cute. I'm happy for you! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/18 04:56 AM |
| 1 | Young women using tinder to get free dinner....AF/BB example?How often does this actually happen, women wanting free dinners, etc.? I see it mentioned all the time on reddit, but I’ve never once seen it in the real world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/18 03:31 AM |
| 5 | Red Pill Women ideology isn't actually for womenAlso, Rollo’s a douche. I don’t know much about the other guys mentioned, but I don’t see having representatives/role models like Rollo being a benefit to anyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/18 03:22 AM |
| 2 | TRP losing steam?I hope it hasn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/18 08:19 AM |
| 5 | Is it time to turn the clock back on society by like 50 years?This is probably the biggest "WTF did I just read?" I've experienced, at least in a long time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/18 08:13 AM |
| 1 | MRP vs TRPHere's an example of a guy who expresses no issue with his marriage but still sneaks around on his wife: https://www.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/8hobll/fr_one_party_two_women/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/18 06:31 AM |
| 2 | MRP vs TRPWhat? That's horrible. I'm generally blue and I would never laugh at someone who relapsed. What is this idea based on? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/18 06:16 AM |
| 3 | MRP vs TRPhttps://www.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/8hobll/fr_one_party_two_women/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/18 06:14 AM |
| 2 | MRP vs TRPhttps://www.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/8hobll/fr_one_party_two_women/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/18 06:13 AM |
| 7 | Is it time to turn the clock back on society by like 50 years?Dude, you're the one who made this post (which, by the way, sounds like a complete doomsday conspiracy). If you're going to make claims and expect people to take them seriously, you should be prepared to back them up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/18 05:26 AM |
| 2 | Is it time to turn the clock back on society by like 50 years?But you’re not. Thank god. This deserves a second mention. Also, let's keep it that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/18 05:12 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Do you think it's okay to lie to women or hide your intentions in order to get sex?I'm saying you made the same bad assumption about men as typical leftist feminist. (more on the victimhood next) I don’t even refer to myself as a feminist, nor do I believe in much of what third-wave feminism (or whatever wave we’re on now) argues for. Stop trying to pigeonhole me into whatever narrative you’ve created based on my post. Please show me where I made an assumption about men as a group. I don’t believe in AMALT. I didn’t come here and make a statement that all men lie for sex or ev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/18 04:03 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Do you think it's okay to lie to women or hide your intentions in order to get sex?I’m a woman | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/18 03:48 AM |
| 2 | Q4RP: Do you think it's okay to lie to women or hide your intentions in order to get sex?Alright, this might get long because I'm likely going to be addressing more than one of your comments. I'll refrain from repeating the points that u/rainisthelife has already addressed very well. you must assumed that any guy that left after sex must be here to deceive the women Unless you can literally probe a guy's mind you can't prove intent. It's not so much a personal jab but more of a criticism of the typical leftist feminist logic of though-policing and claiming victimhood. You basically … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/18 10:25 PM |
| 2 | Q4RP: Do you think it's okay to lie to women or hide your intentions in order to get sex?Well the "all" part isn't really correct then. It's more like "most," "many," or "some." I think a lot of the instances in which AWALT or AMALT are used are quite exaggerated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/18 09:59 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Do you think it's okay to lie to women or hide your intentions in order to get sex?Can you clarify what divorce rape is? I've seen this term a lot here but don't know the meaning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/18 09:48 PM |
| 2 | If society really cared about the children, why did they destroy marriage 1.0?I think we'll have to agree to disagree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/18 09:47 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Do you think it's okay to lie to women or hide your intentions in order to get sex?Or do you actually believe that once the male had sex with the women, they are obligated to commit to a relationship because that sounds more like Traditionalism to me. No, I don't believe that anyone is obligated to stay together after sex. What I'm asking is if people believe it's okay to deceive in order to get sex. For example, woman makes it clear she doesn't want casual sex. Man says he's looking for a relationship or whatever she's looking for (but he really isn't), just to get her to sle… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/18 03:42 AM |
| 6 | TRP induced severe paranoia of cheating (articles)It sounds like you should try to distance yourself from TRP/Incel material. Constant paranoia must be very distressing. From what I've seen, most of the studies TRP and Incels swear by are flawed and demonstrate poor science. I'll try to deconstruct the sources you've listed and/or find some for you that contradict them. In the meantime, hang in there and remind yourself that your girlfriend is great. Continue to be a good boyfriend to her and don't get too caught up in what you've been reading.… | /r/ExRedPill | 11/05/18 09:35 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: What would you do if you were already in a happy relationship but met your "soulmate"?Can I ask: do these women know you refer to them as plates? I really can't take this RP terminology seriously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 09:23 PM |
| 2 | If society really cared about the children, why did they destroy marriage 1.0?Does OP believe people don't change in forever? It seems that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 08:49 PM |
| 2 | Q4RP: Do you think it's okay to lie to women or hide your intentions in order to get sex?Right, it's not a gendered issue. I was just responding directly to your statement about men: I don't believe men have the power to punish women in any way. Women do the exact same thing. My argument is that it's unfortunate that any of us does it, man or woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 07:17 PM |
| 2 | Q4RP: Do you think it's okay to lie to women or hide your intentions in order to get sex?IMO, much of TRP is immoral rather than amoral. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 07:15 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Do you think it's okay to lie to women or hide your intentions in order to get sex?Sounds like you might need to change your username from Barely-moral to Somewhat-moral. ;) I value honesty. I want honesty. I would comunicate my intentions clearly and from the beginning. This is how I operate too. These are qualities I find highly attractive in a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 07:12 PM |
| 3 | Q4RP: Do you think it's okay to lie to women or hide your intentions in order to get sex?Yes. Some of the answers to my post illustrate this. "Some women have acted in X way towards me or other men, therefore I should treat all women like they'll do that." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 07:09 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Do you think it's okay to lie to women or hide your intentions in order to get sex?Essentially it's a literal AWALT. "All women will lie and be shitty so let me do it as well." But it's false. This guy gets it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 06:54 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Do you think it's okay to lie to women or hide your intentions in order to get sex?I realise that many people struggle with this, so rely on assumption instead, which more often than not turns into a self-fulfilling prophecy. I agree. Hell, I think I've even done it to myself in the past. This is why I think generalizations and assumptions can be limiting and even dangerous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 06:51 PM |
| 3 | Q4RP: Do you think it's okay to lie to women or hide your intentions in order to get sex?I believe that there can be trends in behaviour, but to say that every man is the same or every woman is the same is inaccurate. I mean, just look at the responses here on PPD. In this post, we have some men saying they think lying is okay and some men saying they don't. In other posts, there are women who say they like casual sex and others who say they don't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 06:47 PM |
| 2 | If society really cared about the children, why did they destroy marriage 1.0?People aren't that simple. Sometimes they react in ways that are unlike their usual responses. I don't deny that people show indicators of how they might respond to something. That's true. But it's by no means definite that their reactions will be consistent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 06:41 PM |
| 2 | Q4RP: Do you think it's okay to lie to women or hide your intentions in order to get sex?Even the women who walk will respect you for being honest and true to yourself. And the ones that are down for a FWB will be more attracted because you didn’t pussyfoot about what you want. Exactly! Well said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 05:52 PM |
| 5 | Question for Feminist Women : Do You Always ask for and obtain enthusiastic consent before you do something sexual with a guy...????Interesting coincidence. That's the same post I referenced in my thread on lying to get sex. Here's a link to the Comfort Game trash heap. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 05:48 PM |
| 5 | Q4RP: Do you think it's okay to lie to women or hide your intentions in order to get sex?I'm new to this sub, but I'll have to go back and find those older posts. I'm not interested in casual sex or FWB either. Despite being cautious, I've still been burned. I'm going to continue to tread carefully and be cognizant of men's actions. Hopefully I'll find someone compatible who respects me as much as I respect him. I made this post because of personal experience, but also because I've seen a lot of Red Pill material condoning deception. I wanted to know if it's a widespread opinion tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 08:56 AM |
| 2 | Q4RP: Do you think it's okay to lie to women or hide your intentions in order to get sex?The story is true, and it's not the worst thing I've been through. It really did shake up my view of the world though. I've been in therapy getting help for this and for past abuse. You're probably right that he didn't need to go on the internet to learn how to pick up women. Redpillers tend to be cut from a wholly different cloth and are also too occupied with rape accusations and the like to risk pulling such a stunt. There's actually a post I recently saw from r/ TheRedPill, written by a guy … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 08:31 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Do you think it's okay to lie to women or hide your intentions in order to get sex?I won't be holding my breath waiting for it to go away. I don't think I will either. Follow-up question with that in mind: Do you have any tips for how to avoid this kind of deception? For example, if I'm looking for a relationship, how can I avoid being manipulated by men who just want sex? I already verbalize what I am/am not looking for, but apparently that doesn't stop some people from trying to change someone's mind or lie to get something from them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 08:07 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Do you think it's okay to lie to women or hide your intentions in order to get sex?No, I don't think any of those things are okay. This AWALT/AMALT shit is so tired. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 07:58 AM |
| 10 | Q4RP: Do you think it's okay to lie to women or hide your intentions in order to get sex?That's not game, that's weakass fuckboy shit. FUCKING YES. Thanks for the link. I'll check it out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 07:55 AM |
| 4 | Q4RP: Do you think it's okay to lie to women or hide your intentions in order to get sex?I have to say it sucks to be treated a certain way based on a generalization as big as "A[insert gender]ALT." I've personally never used men for drinks, food, or anything else as far as I know. I think that's an awful way to treat people. I've also never "friendzoned" anyone, in that I've had guys like me without reciprocation but I've never used them for anything. When they've confessed their feelings I've always been honest. It's unfortunate that we (both genders) penalize each other for thing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 07:47 AM |
| 2 | Q4RP: Do you think it's okay to lie to women or hide your intentions in order to get sex?Thanks for the info. Sounds like I picked a good place to ask then! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 07:40 AM |
| 4 | Q4RP: Do you think it's okay to lie to women or hide your intentions in order to get sex?Why do people care so much about morals. Because we have the capacity to impact other people (sometimes negatively) with our actions. Does it not matter to you at all if another person suffers because of something you've done? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 07:13 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Do you think it's okay to lie to women or hide your intentions in order to get sex?I'm pretty new here too. Welcome. I agree with most of what you've said, but I'm curious about whether people think it's okay to lie specifically in order to get sex. Like, do you think it's okay to tell a woman (or let her believe) that you want more than just sex when sex is all you want? Edit: Accidental double word | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 07:10 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Do you think it's okay to lie to women or hide your intentions in order to get sex?My belief is that AWALT and AMALT are BS. People are individuals, and it's both restrictive and inaccurate to lump everyone into categories without allowing for exceptions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 07:07 AM |
| 7 | Q4RP: Do you think it's okay to lie to women or hide your intentions in order to get sex?Yeah, if a guy just wants sex I'd rather he say so, so that I can decide if I'm okay with that or not. Given that I'm not interested in casual sex and would like a relationship, we can go our separate ways and find people who want the same things we do. IMO, it's not fair for anyone to lie (even by omission) to get sex from someone who doesn't want just sex. I'm up front about what I want, so I expect the same from the people I date. If you just want sex, go find someone else who just wants sex.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 07:03 AM |
| 2 | Q4RP: Do you think it's okay to lie to women or hide your intentions in order to get sex?Seconded | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 06:58 AM |
| 2 | Q4RP: Do you think it's okay to lie to women or hide your intentions in order to get sex?I finesse and if finessing doesn't work I'm up front and honest. What do you mean by "finessing"? (in this context) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 06:49 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Do you think it's okay to lie to women or hide your intentions in order to get sex?How is that at all equivalent to deceiving someone for sex? ETA: If a woman wears makeup, does that put you at risk for pregnancy? STIs? Physical pain? Emotional or psychological issues? It's ridiculous to suggest that those things are on the same level. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 06:47 AM |
| 3 | Q4RP: Do you think it's okay to lie to women or hide your intentions in order to get sex?Answered above. There was more than just lying. He treated me like I was less than human. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 05:52 AM |
| 2 | Q4RP: Do you think it's okay to lie to women or hide your intentions in order to get sex?Excuse the length... I don't know if the guy identified as a TRPer. I myself didn't know much about TRP at the time; I'd only heard a bit about it. He ended up being a manipulative jerk but hid it well at first. I wish I'd known the kind of person he was sooner. He misled me by telling me he was looking for the same thing I was. I'd made it clear that I was not interested in casual sex. He was initially kind and respectful. The night we slept together, he talked beforehand about how he'd love to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 05:46 AM |
| 2 | Q4RP: Do you think it's okay to lie to women or hide your intentions in order to get sex?I guess in this context I'm referring to people on PPD who identify as Red Pilled. This sub seems to have a decent number of people willing to share their views, usually in a manner that allows for respectful discussion. I don't think the same can be said for TRP and similar subs. Those places are pretty toxic and I'd rather not go there. ETA: What I meant in my earlier comment is that I had a suspicion this was the M.O. of at least some Red Pillers, but wanted to hear directly from people who i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 05:30 AM |
| 6 | Q4RP: Do you think it's okay to lie to women or hide your intentions in order to get sex?I'm willing to bet that's the M.O. of some (maybe even many?) TRPers as well, but I wanted to hear from the source. Having had it happen to me, I'm sickened by it, and I think it's awful that some people care so little about others that they're willing to manipulate or deceive them for their own benefit. It's selfish and frankly cruel. Edit: Typo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 03:16 AM |
| 8 | If society really cared about the children, why did they destroy marriage 1.0?Yes, but u/storffish said the father started drinking after a work injury. How people respond to circumstance isn't always predictable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 02:21 AM |
| 9 | If society really cared about the children, why did they destroy marriage 1.0?as if people can simply magically see into the future Exactly. If this were possible, wouldn't we all be doing it? No one would be in these situations. I'd love to know when I meet someone if he'll turn out to be awful, before I invest in a relationship with him... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 01:47 AM |
| 5 | If society really cared about the children, why did they destroy marriage 1.0?I usually disagree with your comments, but we're on the same page with this one. You've made some very good points. Upvoted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 01:44 AM |
| 4 | If society really cared about the children, why did they destroy marriage 1.0?Great response. I think things can be improved and we've got a long way to go to get there, but moving backwards isn't the answer. People simply need to put more care into partner selection and family planning. I certainly don’t think laws surrounding marriage today are anywhere close to ideal. Agreed on both points. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 01:41 AM |
| 5 | If society really cared about the children, why did they destroy marriage 1.0?Yeah, talking about it as having been "destroyed" by some larger entity ("them") makes it sound like some sort of conspiracy, rather than just a societal shift. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 01:36 AM |
| 5 | If society really cared about the children, why did they destroy marriage 1.0?As if people can't change or their problems are always visible from the outset... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 01:33 AM |
| 7 | If society really cared about the children, why did they destroy marriage 1.0?Isn't the point of this post to discuss what's best for the children? They're also the future of society... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 01:28 AM |
| 2 | Why is it okay for men to cheat but not for women?I never said it was okay Alright, thanks for responding. I was wondering because the OP's question was "Why is it okay for men to cheat but not for women?" A man can actively cheat on his wife but still love her deeply. Can you explain this to me? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/18 05:48 AM |
| 4 | Why is it okay for men to cheat but not for women?And how does that make it okay? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/18 05:17 AM |
| 1 | Why is it okay for men to cheat but not for women?As a woman, I don’t think I value promiscuity in men (i.e. I wouldn’t consider a man a better catch just because he’s had more partners). Can other women here comment? Do you value promiscuity in men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/18 03:50 AM |
| 2 | Why is it okay for men to cheat but not for women?Oh, don't worry. He'll have a response for you too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/18 01:05 AM |
| 3 | Why is it okay for men to cheat but not for women?And what features do you operate on? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/18 12:38 AM |
| 3 | Why is it okay for men to cheat but not for women?Men want to validate and appreciate the beauty and joy of many different women. I'm sorry, but this just makes me laugh. I'm sure the reason that men want to sleep with many women is to validate those women. Is that why some men here also refer to some women as "whores" and "sluts"? You're trying to make sleeping with multiple women sound virtuous and selfless, when it really comes down to satisfying your own desires. Women hate each other and won't share men. Another baseless generalization. Wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/18 12:33 AM |
| 6 | Why is it okay for men to cheat but not for women?That's ridiculous. If you think that, then an argument could be made that men are selfish for wanting to sleep with multiple women. And sleeping with other women when you've agreed to be in an exclusive relationship is plenty selfish. What you're saying, then, is that: It's not as bad for a man to cheat as it is for a woman to cheat, AND Men's wants are more important than women's | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/18 12:26 AM |
| 3 | Why is it okay for men to cheat but not for women?a woman feels sucky because women are selfish and greedy So, a woman wanting her exclusive/monogamous partner to remain exclusive and honest is selfish and greedy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/18 12:20 AM |
| 11 | Should or shouldn’t women’s breasts/nipples be sexualised?I do believe breast feeding in public should not be as stigmatized I agree with this too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/18 12:10 AM |
| 1 | Should or shouldn’t women’s breasts/nipples be sexualised?heterosexual men will be turned on by looking at them, and sexualisation of the breasts can’t be prevented. I agree. I don't think it's possible to avoid this sexualization because there will always be natural biological responses that can't be suppressed. I've seen "free the nipple" written in places before, but never knew this is what it was about. ETA, my stance on the issue: I don't think it's necessary to try to prevent the sexualization of women's breasts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/18 12:03 AM |
| 1 | Slowly Shifting Redpill due to Entitlement from Womenwhen an ex-whore ex-slut post-wall in her 30s Not a fan of the words you've used, but how do you know if a woman was promiscuous in the past? Do they usually tell you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/18 11:59 PM |
| 3 | On Dreadintentionally trying to get her to hamster and be all anxious and in the dark. Not sure why a woman would stick around for all that Yeah, fuck that shit. Try that on me and I'm out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/18 11:10 PM |
| 3 | On DreadMe too. I can't help but roll my eyes when I see the terminology. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/18 11:06 PM |
| 1 | QForBP: How many of you are actually feministsSounds like you're describing me, minus the work-related groups. I like how you've explained it. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/18 10:17 PM |
| 1 | QForBP: How many of you are actually feministsThis is probably closest to my stance as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/18 09:56 PM |
| 1 | What do people really mean when they say "men aren't entitled to sex from women"?I think if someone actually feels entitled to something they’ll just take it. In many cases, yes. That's why I said some people. Why wouldn’t they, they believe it’s theirs Some of them might care what other people think. Consider this, for example... If society hears, "All men feel entitled to sex," individual men will likely have different reactions to that, because not every man is the same. The idea of being "entitled to sex" (or entitled to anything) holds a negative connotation for many pe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/18 09:05 PM |
| 1 | What do people really mean when they say "men aren't entitled to sex from women"?It’s literally the same same thing gender swapped You're not reading what I'm saying. It's not a gendered thing; it's a HUMAN thing. Both men AND women might do this. Where did I ever say that men are the only ones? I'm talking about entitlement in general, even though my response was to another user's comment about men feeling entitled to sex. Are you trying to suggest that humans answer every question honestly all of the time? Similarly, do you believe that people are 100% cognizant of their b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/18 08:32 PM |
| 1 | What do people really mean when they say "men aren't entitled to sex from women"?Note how I said "people" and not "men." I also said "some people," not "all people." Both men and women might hide or downplay their negative traits, and people (men or women) can be oblivious to their own biases. What I'm saying is it's not a guarantee that everyone will give an accurate answer when asked a question. There's a reason why self-report data have limitations in scientific research. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/18 08:16 PM |
| 1 | Slowly Shifting Redpill due to Entitlement from WomenSure, I guess you can just be rude for no apparent reason. That's fine. Edit: I've looked into it. According to a 2014 CDC report, more men than women were victims of physical intimate partner violence during a 12-month period. However, more women than men are victims across their lifetimes. Source (see Table 6, row titled "Physical violence"). It's clearly a problem for both genders, and it's unfair that male victims are not adequately recognized or cared for by society. I still think your resp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/18 02:57 PM |
| 2 | What do you guys think about the logic that "sex is overrated?"Have you looked into non-SSRI antidepressants? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/18 06:55 AM |
| 7 | Slowly Shifting Redpill due to Entitlement from WomenI've been up front with women about being casual and neen plenty of other guys do the same. They can't even hear and will just believe whatever suits them. Clearly those women didn't respect you, and that's uncool of them. Many of us aren't like that though. If a man tells me he wants something casual, I respect his choice and bow out because that's not what I'm looking for. I don't know any woman personally who's tried to strong-arm a man into a relationship after he's outright said he didn't w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/18 06:13 AM |
| 2 | Slowly Shifting Redpill due to Entitlement from WomenPersonally, I wouldn't because I'm looking for something long-term. I'd surely respect his honesty, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/18 06:11 AM |
| 5 | Slowly Shifting Redpill due to Entitlement from WomenThe double standard of communication and maturity expectations between men and women on this sub is ridiculous. This exact same post exactly the same, with the genders reversed would have exactly the opposite response. I'm only one person saying this, but I support the advice that OP be up front about what he's after, as a woman who does the same. I do ask men what they're looking for and tell them what I'm looking for. It's not a gendered issue. Both people should communicate for the understand… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/18 06:05 AM |
| 8 | Slowly Shifting Redpill due to Entitlement from WomenYep, the double standards are real. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/18 06:02 AM |
| 3 | What do people really mean when they say "men aren't entitled to sex from women"?You're right that few would probably report feeling entitled to sex. Keep in mind though that entitlement is seen as a negative trait, so some people would probably deny it. Also, people sometimes fail to recognize their own entitlement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/18 05:39 AM |
| 10 | Slowly Shifting Redpill due to Entitlement from WomenThis is the best response here so far. It's better to clearly communicate what you're looking for than be ambiguous and leave the other person to draw their own conclusions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/18 05:17 AM |
| 8 | Slowly Shifting Redpill due to Entitlement from WomenIt's well known that women are actually more violent than men when it comes to relationships Source? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/18 05:14 AM |
| 1 | [Q4BP] Do you deny that push/pull, teasing, DGAF mentality and kino escalation works?Does the woman explicitly tell you when entering a FB situation that she's using you, or are you just making that assumption based on the label "FB"? arraignment The word you're looking for is arrangement. An arraignment is a declaration of charges in a court of law. Be sex positive. For the second time, I am sex-positive. I'm not against people engaging in casual sex or FB relationships. I'm against the RP tactics that are used to manipulate women into doing so. Edit: A word | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/18 12:54 AM |
| 1 | [Q4BP] Do you deny that push/pull, teasing, DGAF mentality and kino escalation works?Because you're using somebody. It doesn't matter how - be it sexual or otherwise - using someone is distasteful. And yes, that applies to any woman using a man for money or other resources, if you plan to follow up with that typical Manosphere response. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/18 12:45 AM |
| 1 | [Q4BP] Do you deny that push/pull, teasing, DGAF mentality and kino escalation works?Yeah, I am implying they're wrong. Manipulation of any kind is wrong, regardless of whether it's a man or a woman doing it. Edit: Added words | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/18 06:32 PM |
| 1 | [Q4BP] Do you deny that push/pull, teasing, DGAF mentality and kino escalation works?Nicely stated | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/18 06:13 AM |
| 1 | [Q4BP] Do you deny that push/pull, teasing, DGAF mentality and kino escalation works?And you did consider it wrong to do this. You called it manipulative, implying it is wrong. I said that your Red Pill tactics such as push/pull, teasing, etc. are manipulative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/18 07:56 PM |
| 2 | [Q4BP] Do you deny that push/pull, teasing, DGAF mentality and kino escalation works?Why are you being sex negative? You're twisting my words. I already said that there's nothing wrong with wanting to find someone to sext. There's nothing wrong with wanting a FB either. Even though I'm not into casual sex, I have no judgment towards others who are. I am sex positive. only good for sex You're doing it again. People are more than "only good for sex," even if all you want with them is sex. That's the point I'm trying to make. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/18 07:19 PM |
| 2 | [Q4BP] Do you deny that push/pull, teasing, DGAF mentality and kino escalation works?I was trying to find a partner online to sext. Why should I waste my time with someone who doesn’t want to do it? She told she that she was incompatible with my wants and I respected her decision and left her alone. I don't see anything wrong with that. It's your suggestion that all she's valuable for is nudes that I take issue with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/18 06:50 PM |
| 4 | [Q4BP] Do you deny that push/pull, teasing, DGAF mentality and kino escalation works?nothing of value from her How nice. /s Based on what you're describing, it doesn't sound like you brought much to the table either, besides manipulation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/18 05:57 PM |
| 2 | How has reading about the redpill/purple pill affected your relationships with the opposite sex?Me too. I only knew vaguely of TRP before I met a man I later found out believed in it. After reading deeper, I'm afraid of ending up with a man who thinks that way. It's a red flag to me now. I've always been what TRPers say women aren't: loyal, kind, not interested in casual sex. To learn that there are men who call women "plates" and teach others that we're good only for sex makes me sick. It's sad to think that viewing me as a human being might not be something I can reasonably expect from m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/18 06:49 AM |
| 1 | How has reading about the redpill/purple pill affected your relationships with the opposite sex?Women don’t find that hot, that I’ve seen... Can confirm, as one woman, that I don't find it hot at all. It's off-putting and actually makes me a little bit ill. I mean, come on, RPers... “plates” Women aren't dishware. We're human beings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/18 06:31 AM |
| 2 | How has reading about the redpill/purple pill affected your relationships with the opposite sex?Another in agreement here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/18 06:23 AM |
| 2 | Men are not entitled to ____________ . Women are not entitled to ____________ .Agreed, u/Nienke_H! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/18 05:43 AM |
| 1 | The Easiest and Most Effective Solution to The "Incel Problem" is Legalizing Prostitutionevery single mass shooter since Columbine has been on SSRIs, and those cause MORE violence Do you have any sources to back up that SSRIs cause more violence? Correlation does not equal causation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/18 03:41 AM |
| 2 | Red Pillers Don't Want To Pay For Dates, But Hate Career Women TooI agree with quite a few of your comments in this discussion, but the concept of hypergamy is where I draw a line. I've never cheated or traded a man I was with for another. I hope to find one man to love and spend my life with. I never want to experience divorce, so by no means would I leave my husband for superficial reasons like "wanting a man with more money," etc. I really think the Red Pill community overstates this idea of hypergamy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/18 02:47 AM |
| 3 | Red Pillers Don't Want To Pay For Dates, But Hate Career Women Tooshe also I assume doesn't buy new clothes, wear lingerie, or groom her body hair. That's an unfair assumption. I'm a woman who takes good care of her appearance but doesn't regularly spend a lot of money on it. Just because I don't get a professional wax job done, it doesn't mean I don't groom my body hair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/18 02:26 AM |
| 2 | Red Pillers Don't Want To Pay For Dates, But Hate Career Women TooYou're not wrong. It's clear that people (men and women both) tend to make a lot of generalizations about each other. I'm a woman. I've been called conventionally attractive, beautiful, etc. I don't go for regular beauty treatments or buy a lot of makeup. Like your wife, I don't take much time to get ready on the average day. I doubt she and I are unicorns. Edit: Removed a few words | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/18 02:19 AM |
| 7 | Red Pillers Don't Want To Pay For Dates, But Hate Career Women TooTo be fair, this doesn't apply to all women. I'm a woman and I've never gotten a mani/pedi or a bikini wax. I'm not saying I never would, but it would be more of a once-in-a-while thing. I generally choose to take care of those kinds of things myself rather than spend money on them. I don't spend a lot on makeup or buy new clothes for a date. I've never taken an Uber to a date. I'll walk or take public transit if I need to (though I will take a cab home if it's late or if safety otherwise dictat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/18 02:09 AM |
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