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Most of the dominance stuff is bullshit. But conscious D/s is fire, and not remotely bullshit. It's not about being an asshole
/r/seduction05/07/26 05:01 AM
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Stay away from NYC. Leave all those beautiful, brilliant women to go make an amazing life in a truly great city with the men who have the strength of character and depth of understanding to respect them and know how to treat them -- like slut princesses, ideally.
/r/seduction01/07/26 09:20 PM
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That's a good start. The next step is to recognize that you're fundamentally equal, but never relatively equal. The entire frame of "better/worse" or "stronger/weaker" or "dominant/submissive" is primarily constructed between you two and has no intrinsic basis. If you pay attention, she's surely stronger and better and dominant in some aspects of your life together, and you in others. The key is to learn to lean into that insight. In bed, perhaps, you can really dominate her (with care). In the …
/r/seduction01/07/26 07:27 PM
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I’m a hot guy. It’s much harder to sleep with really amazing women than people tink. Being hot just gives you more opportunity with hot women, it increases the odds a little. But the odds are so small to begin with, that a big percent chance still doesn’t equal much difference.
/r/seduction28/06/26 04:24 AM
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I usually ask gentle questions until I figure out what she’s interested in that I’m also interested in. If there’s little overlap, then it’s usually not worth pursuing further
/r/seduction28/06/26 03:34 AM
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I mean that the question gets asked all the time. It’s a beginner question. Which is fine, as we’re all beginners at times, and in ways. But you can just look through past discussions on this sub
/r/seduction26/06/26 03:43 PM
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Make friends. Go out with your friends to cafes and restaurants and parks and bars and clubs, or whatever. Talk to women that you find attractive. If they seem playful and open, get a little flirty. If they flirt back, and you’re liking it, ask for a number. Then go on a single date. If, at any point, she seems to tense up or close up, back off a little
/r/seduction25/06/26 06:42 PM
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Jesus guys. Why is anyone having sex with anyone that they don’t actually desire? It’s not a video game, there’s no points, and you can’t win
/r/seduction25/06/26 06:10 PM
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It’s like the “bad attention/good attention” conundrum. If all you want is attention, then you’ll often end up seeking bad attention as it’s much easier to get. You want women’s panties to get wet when you talk to them. Their pity can be healing, but it won’t make their panties wet
/r/seduction25/06/26 03:58 PM
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This is a common problem. Use the search function at the top of the page
/r/seduction25/06/26 01:18 PM
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Who knows what they're thinking. It sounds like they can perceive that you're thirsty and seeking connections, though. The usual response to that is to contract away. Can you engage their eyes while staying centered in your own self. Then you center in your desire when you're connecting, but only after there's an opening in her to your engagement
/r/seduction23/06/26 06:06 PM
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Try this: You turn to check out her vibe. If you like it, then you make eye contact while facing her directly, dancing. Then take her hand, and start to dominate her a little on the dance floor. Or, go a little silly and over the top for a moment, to loosen the vibe, then come in hard. Be a little aggressive and forward, but pay really close attention to her and be playfully responsive. She wants to know you want her, and she likely wants to feel possessed a little. But she needs to give herself…
/r/seduction23/06/26 03:20 PM
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He’s trying to figure out how to engage with women he doesn’t really like it respect. That’s not a need. But the key is to be courageous enough to be honest with women about your desire, but without being off-center or needy
/r/seduction22/06/26 10:23 PM
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Why are you looking for 2nd rate relationships?
/r/seduction22/06/26 03:03 PM
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I hear you. You need to go into your insecurity and let it unspool without trying to fix it or follow it. The dissociation is your effort to avoid the pain you’re experiencing, and it just compounds the pain. Face it, right where it’s at in your body. Listen to it, like it’s whispering secrets in an alien language. Let it transform you, without making a big story out of it. Then go back out there and get rejected a dozen more times
/r/seduction19/06/26 09:48 PM
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It’s about feeling fully into your desire, while being intimately present with her. Most guys are just fantasizing about porn, lost in their heads, not really paying attention to her, not really conducting the erotic energies in themselves, let alone in her. But these are skills and you can learn them https://open.spotify.com/episode/1wYrq0kiF32CyeK5MWgaaL?
/r/seduction19/06/26 11:35 AM
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Usually it’s a sign that she sees you as potential for a more serious relationship. Some people can find insecurity in anything, and you can certainly find it there, if you look hard enough. But it’s generally a good sign. Just make sure that you’re also being bold with her. Sweep her off her feet a little
/r/seduction18/06/26 04:24 PM
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The key is to be exquisitely present with her body and your desire. Slow down. Conduct passion through your hands, then your mouth, then your cock. Be there with her, really get curious, really worship her. Then possess her with gusto. Your pleasure and her pleasure ride the breath. That’s the secret to lasting long https://open.spotify.com/episode/1wYrq0kiF32CyeK5MWgaaL?
/r/seduction16/06/26 08:39 PM
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“Nah, she’s not hot enough.” Or “why, you need someone to help with your responsibilities in bed?” Or, “yeah, she is! Should we invite her home with us, tonight?”
/r/seduction16/06/26 04:37 PM
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If you’re wondering why you have trouble with women, look at the poison dripping from your mind. Where did it come from?
/r/seduction16/06/26 04:27 PM
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Seems like you're explaining precisely why women are hesitant to have random sex with random guys. Maybe you can just fuck the money?
/r/seduction15/06/26 08:23 PM
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If all you want is to get your dick wet, with no strings attached, then it's crazy that you're not going to sex workers. They provide the service you desire, at a cost, because very few women naturally want to do that with any guy. Sex is risky for women, and most men are lousy lovers. Honestly, it's more ethical to go to sex workers, too. But still treat them like human beings. More generally, you're too focused on outcomes. Time is money, indeed. But what's the money for?
/r/seduction15/06/26 06:59 PM
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Only if it’s done with care and playfulness and close attention. You get her riled up, then calm her down and fuck her right
/r/seduction12/06/26 08:35 PM
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Cold approaching women that you're just walking by is very aggressive. It's not impossible, but it's very difficult. Much easier to engage people who are not moving. Ideally, you engage them about some object of common interest or experience. For instance, make a small joke as you're standing in line, or asking about the book they're reading, etc. But make it something you're actually interested in, otherwise you'll reek of thirsty desperation
/r/seduction12/06/26 05:15 PM
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Yeah. I'm sure he's wanting to support you, but he hasn't learned to just sit with pain and insecurity. Our automatic response is to try to fix it or distract ourselves. That might be ok if it served to release the pain and confusion, but it tends to compound it, instead. I used to be really bad at taking care of people who were injured or ill for a similar reason -- my nervous energy around them, trying to fix things, just made everything worse. I'm sorry for your trouble. If you'd like some mo…
/r/seduction12/06/26 01:55 PM
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Oh no, you've got me wrong. I can totally fathom this working! I'm sure it works exactly the way you describe. Seriously. It makes perfect sense. Whatever is helping someone to relax and be present with themself and others, especially when it comes to talking with women they desire, is a good thing. Sorry to bother you
/r/seduction12/06/26 01:48 PM
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I get it. It’s a clever method. I don’t fault you. But really, if you can learn to really pay attention to the women, from a relaxed place that’s playful and responsive, everything becomes so much easier and better
/r/seduction11/06/26 01:57 AM
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The point is that you're basically using a marketing system to sort potential partners. And that's getting in the way of your actually relating to them. I agree that the most important part, as in marketing, is the top of the funnel. If you don't go talk with lots of women, you'll have a hell of a time getting dates. But once you're talking to them, drop the system. If you just pay attention to them, to the way they're breathing and the tension in their bodies, and the micro-expressions in their…
/r/seduction10/06/26 06:28 PM
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All these complicated systems to avoid actually looking at the woman and paying attention to her.
/r/seduction10/06/26 05:50 PM
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Real seduction is learning to engage women deeply and help them relax the places where they’re blocked. But you only want to do that when you can connect and they let you feel into them, most women that LOOK great aren’t a great match. I’ve talked to thousands of strange women. I’ve only asked a few dozen of those women out. Almost all of those women me gave their number, at least once i’d been out of college for a while. If you’re stuck in your head, thirsting for her or planning your next move…
/r/seduction10/06/26 05:21 PM
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Dude, they’re just numbers in your head. Sure, there’s a normal distribution of preference in a society. But the numbers are really not objective in any meaningful sense
/r/seduction10/06/26 05:20 AM
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The key is to learn to enjoy yourself. Practice alone, then invite others into your pleasure-dome. This applies to sex, too, but is even more important outside of sex
/r/seduction09/06/26 01:49 PM
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I don't even understand the question. If I'm embarrassed to admit to having done something, why wouldn't I just do things different, next time? Why would I care if someone judged me for changing? The entire question seems trapped, like a fly in honey, in the judgments of others. Here's the tip: Stop caring about people's judgments and categorizations of you. Instead, pay close attention to how they're feeling with you, right now. Are they relaxed? Are they enjoying themselves? If they're tense, …
/r/seduction09/06/26 01:13 PM
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If you like it, what’s the problem?
/r/seduction09/06/26 11:40 AM
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The good kind of status comes from justified confidence, established competence, and demonstrated care for others
/r/seduction09/06/26 11:34 AM
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Get out of your own way. Exercise 3x per week, to burn the crap if the surface of your mind, and meditate 40 minutes each day to clarify and stabilize your mind and energies. So trying so hard. Relax. Enjoy your life. Then talk to women as part of your enjoyment of life. Like an Italian guy having a gelato
/r/seduction09/06/26 12:16 AM
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If you don't like it, stop doing it. I enjoy seduction, to the point that I continue doing it a bit even since I've been married. I just make sure women know I'm married and not looking to cheat
/r/seduction08/06/26 08:45 PM
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No need to un-match. Just don't let yourself get caught up in the reaction
/r/seduction08/06/26 08:42 PM
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Narcissists and sociopaths, or just emotionally damaged assholes, can do ok with women for a while. But it works best, by far, on women who are very young and naive, or women who are very unbalanced and susceptible. Being a nice guy is less likely to get women. Why? Mostly because the nice guy never makes a move. Hence, he never gets the girl. But you can be kind and caring, AND bold and aggressive. Just pay attention to her, and follow your desire, and relax a little if she tightens up. Have fu…
/r/seduction08/06/26 08:38 PM
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You have literally no idea how the world works, dude. Sure, there's some hot young women who will open their legs for a guy who looks like Brad Pitt with a 6 pack and a lambo. But they're pretty rare, almost always naive, and not very interesting. Being good looking on dating apps is a huge advantage. Because all you've really got to go on is your looks. But women look at the whole package. They're interested in status, but not status among 13 year old boys
/r/seduction08/06/26 08:30 PM
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This is generally good advice. I'd correct one thing, however. One might think that "indifference" is the desirable trait. It's not. Women with a little experience in the world usually recognize that an indifferent man is a poseur, after a minute. Moreover, even if women really liked an indifferent man, it's a deadening of your experience of the world. Even if your can get some girls, you don't care because you’re cutting yourself off. The juice isn't worth the squeeze. Equanimity, on the other …
/r/seduction08/06/26 08:24 PM
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If you're asking that question, you're deep in a well of some kind of isolation and ideology. Start by getting outside, meeting people, feeling into your body, dropping all the opinions you have about women and relationships that you can't directly confirm from experience, and starting to explore experience like a scientist. Do that for a year or two, and then come back here and tell the rest of us how to do it. And yes, I absolutely have had women take me straight from meeting them to fucking, …
/r/seduction08/06/26 08:12 PM
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The secret is to come into deeper experience with the texture of desire and pleasure, then be playful with it with her. So you're sitting next to each other, with your arm around her shoulders. You come in closer to smell her hair. She feels you may be coming to kiss her and gets excited and a little resistant. But rather than trying to kiss, you spend a little time smelling, maybe touching her face, then back away. And now there's a charge in the air. You can make eye contact, watching her desi…
/r/seduction08/06/26 08:08 PM
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Your attempt to shield yourself by making yourself hard and hurting others doesn't work. It makes you brittle over your weakness. It's ok to be honest with women about other women. You don't need to play nice all the time. Nor to "be honest" about every stupid thought or desire. You can tease her playfully. She feels the sting, gets a little worked up, and then you bring her down into her body and she'll be all wet. But start from kindness
/r/seduction08/06/26 01:56 PM
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Who cares. Let it go. You’re just getting started
/r/seduction07/06/26 05:12 PM
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That’s what happens. Keep it up. Don’t worry too much, but feel into the feelings of rejection and isolation after each one, and let it run through your body without interpreting it. Let it get into you a little, open your mind and soften your heart. We all feel sadness. We all feel alone at times. We all feel separated from others. Let yourself really feel that tenderness underneath all the identities. Then bring that gentle heart into your next interaction, and really pay attention to the woma…
/r/seduction07/06/26 04:58 PM
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You never know, and you're a fool if you think you do. But you do pick up patterns. Use the patterns, and the desire/excitement that you feel in your body, like a sailor uses wind, not like a mathematician uses axioms.
/r/seduction07/06/26 01:51 PM
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Yes, if you like the look of them
/r/seduction06/06/26 09:52 PM
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No, it's really not
/r/seduction02/06/26 12:16 PM
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I wouldn't make much of it. The play of eyes when people are walking past each other is mostly just a game of attraction. Maybe hot women just have more fun getting guys excited, because it's easier. But it doesn't mean anything, because you're just going by. If she's alone, then be bold and stop her when she holds your eyes. It's unlikely to work, but who knows. Just use the . . . "didn't we meet at that party a few months ago. . . ?"
/r/seduction02/06/26 12:15 PM
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I wouldn’t get stuck on your identity as “chill” or “submissive” or “alpha” or “who I am” or whatever. What you’ve done in the past provides the scope for what you’re comfortable with right now. But if you do something different for a week or two, it will feel familiar and comfortable soon after. Now is the time to gently explore the space of experience and expression. Do it playfully, With insecurity, there’s almost always shame. And with shame, there’s only two ways to go: 1) create an identit…
/r/seduction01/06/26 10:54 PM
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The problem is mostly that so many men have succumbed to their social anxiety and the blame and excuses that are so pervasive online, and have stopped talking to women in the world. Instead, they try to use online dating, which literally reduces a human to a few pictures, height, and a few lines of self-description. That information is practically useless for feeling if someone is a good match, but it's all people have to go on with OLD. Break the cage of social anxiety, boys. Go talk to the wom…
/r/seduction01/06/26 03:17 PM
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Don't get obsessed with your looks. Women aren't tightly focused on faces or fat percentages or whatever. That's all male obsession material. Women are looking at the whole presentation, and trying to get a feeling for what it's like to be with you. Sure, they usually like a guy who's good looking and has a strong body. But hardcore gym bodies, all this stuff that guys compete with each other about, are rarely attractive to women. Instead, they suggest a guy who's pretty obsessed with his appear…
/r/seduction01/06/26 01:48 PM
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This is totally true. It's really the core of game, and the rest is either learning skillful ways to enjoy yourself together (better flirting, better sex, etc.) or it's pretending to be secure in the hope it will make you secure, or it's trying to change the conditions (looks, money, gym, cars, etc) so that you'll feel secure. But nothing makes you secure except delving into your insecurities and facing them with courage and honesty. One thing I'll say is that the process of releasing insecurity…
/r/seduction01/06/26 01:33 PM
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Just take for granted that you'll be rejected. Don't even ask for a number. Just go talk with some women. Try to find what makes her tick, what she yearns for, what's her stable ground, what she really loves, etc. The important thing is to pay attention, and to have fun doing it. After you've done that a few dozen times, and you're a little comfortable with introducing yourself and talking with women, then start to explore ways to subtly signal that you desire a woman, after you've started talki…
/r/seduction01/06/26 01:02 PM
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Game is skill, but it's mostly skill at being comfortable in your own skin, not too stuck in your head, attentive and responsive to women, and tuned into your own desire. That's all you really need. The top down skill stuff is like trying to learn to ride a bike by studying physics. Except the underlying theories about women and desire are mostly half-truths or worse. So it's really like trying to learn to bake a cake by studying astrology.
/r/seduction01/06/26 12:56 PM
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I'd suggest developing a personal style that is yours, and that signals you're part of cultural groups other than traditional indian culture (and its modern version in western societies). Look around at the other indian guys at the club. DON'T dress like them. No three button shirts. No business casual. Let your hair grow a little. Women love a bad boy with a heart. But being a bad boy doesn't mean being bad to them. It means breaking out of the social roles and beliefs of your parents and the c…
/r/seduction01/06/26 12:45 PM
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The trouble with being Indian is that most people have met a lot of Indian guys who are incredible thirsty, obsessed with status, misogynistic, and generally wrapped up in their ego. Learn to release all that cultural bullshit. You’ll do fine
/r/seduction27/05/26 09:46 PM
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You're young enough to date women who are 18, but they're pretty immature. So unless you're ready to kind of take her in hand, probably best to stick to 20+. Frankly, though, at your age, older women who will take YOU in hand and show you how to be a great lover and a good man are probably the best approach. As far as public perception goes: Be kind to women, don't just use them and discard them. Don't date younger women because they're naive enough to not see your red flags. That doesn't mean y…
/r/seduction27/05/26 01:32 PM
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You’re in your head getting all competitive and worried about performance. You need to relax and create a parasympathetic response. Deep breaths into your belly help. Easier is to develop some emotional connection to the woman, first. I had a number of experiences when I was younger, with extremely beautiful women, where I couldn’t get it up on the first time. Never had a problem on the second, and in every case we ended up ducking like rabbits for months, at least
/r/seduction26/05/26 10:53 PM
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Make women friends, find interests and groups you enjoy that have plenty of women. Dancing is always good. And talk to women you meet in the wild. Cold approach is kind of mechanical, but just talking to women will lead to opportunities, if you know how to take them
/r/seduction26/05/26 09:42 PM
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Go out more an me talk to women. It’s unfamiliar and uncomfortable, and you need to make that space familiar and comfortable. The only way to do that is to go talk to women. I’d spend a month just trying to find it what this or that one really loves, agar drives them, what gets them excited, what are they sad about, etc. Don’t try to seduce them, just try to get genuinely curious about them. And pay attention to the way they get tense or relaxed as you’re talking. Relaxed means more, tense means…
/r/seduction25/05/26 09:08 PM
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Don't do the other stuff. Just relax and center yourself in your body. The rest will arise from a sense of playfulness, when you're feeling safe in yourself. Before you approach, take a few deep breaths in and out. Feel into your heart, and feel the warmth of excitement at connecting with her, and at seeing her happy, whether you two connect or not. Let that warmth flow towards her from your heart. Now approach. She gave you an affordance, even with your awkward approach -- the time travel book.…
/r/seduction21/05/26 03:48 PM
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Yeah, but SO MANY guys are getting stuck in the tutorial stage, and they’re so frustrated they’d rather burn down western civilization and abolish women’s rights than go take the risk of showing their attraction. It’s pretty bleak. Also worth noting — the average guy comes in 5 minutes. Learn to edge and move the energy, guys
/r/seduction20/05/26 09:32 PM
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This is the right answer, from a person who clearly has experience. Take your time, have patience with yourself and your partner, as you begin to explore these ideas, let alone doing them. And definitely suggest that you start with a MFM threesome. They're awesome, and he'll get a taste for the difficulty
/r/seduction20/05/26 05:31 PM
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The hottest women usually date good looking guys. It’s going to be much harder to date them, though far from impossible, if you’re not also hot. That’s just the way it is. Beyond that, it’s rarely a decisive factor. And being hot won’t get you the woman you want, on its own.
/r/seduction20/05/26 03:15 AM
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This question emphasizes how totally lost many men are. Read your question again. I’ll wait. How is one supposed to get their foot in a woman’s door to show their personality? Literally, exactly the same ways a handsome guy will have to do it. He’ll need to go talk to someone, or meet them through a friend group, or class, etc. How will he get her to give him a chance, without great looks? Literally by means of any of an infinity of traits that she might find attractive, and then actually does f…
/r/seduction20/05/26 12:24 AM
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I think they’re doing it mostly for each other. They’re lost in the fun house mirrors of online discourse, and can only see their own reflections, distorted
/r/seduction19/05/26 03:07 PM
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Neither me nor my wife used to enjoy giving head, but we enjoyed receiving it. Then we discovered the path of devotion. If you treat the pussy like a goddess, and the cock like a god, and worship, then you’ll really enjoy it. And the recipient will have their mind blown
/r/seduction19/05/26 12:48 PM
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Do you have a citation for that one?
/r/seduction19/05/26 04:17 AM
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Dance with her. Pretend to be really mad at her. Tell her they’re expensive sunglasses, but you’ll let her have them in for her body. Tell her they look amazing on her . . . but not as good as they’ll look on her friend. Whatever. Just have fun and be playful
/r/seduction18/05/26 03:02 PM
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Everyone wants intimacy and joy and connection. Most people seeking sex are really just seeking a sense of aliveness and connection. Seeking to be seen and felt and desired and appreciated. You can use those drives to kind of trick people into giving you pleasure. And pleasure is great, like sugar. But most people figure out, as they become adults, that the richness of life is in the texture, depth, and appreciation. Not the sweetness. If you want a woman who is really a FWB, become a good frien…
/r/seduction18/05/26 02:38 PM
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Pretty difficult for anyone, honestly. Most girls just aren’t down for random hookups, ever. Those that are down are usually only down for shorter periods, now and then. And those that are down for a short period are usually only down for someone that really turns them on, or somehow the situation makes it kind of inevitable. And the odds that a girl is down and you really turn her on is pretty small, even if you’re handsome and muscular and tuck and charming. Smaller if you’re not. Honestly, th…
/r/seduction18/05/26 01:07 AM
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Something short and honest, but kind. One or two sentences The more important post is how you respond internally. With yourself, it’s important to just let it go, don’t let yourself ruminate. Then it’s extremely important to be as honest as possible about your feelings of insecurity and weakness and undesirability, not by analyzing them or thinking about them, but just by allowing yourself to feel them without trying to change it.
/r/seduction17/05/26 10:03 PM
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Find a club where you vibe. That’s the essential thing. Then go with some regularity, be big-hearted, get to know the bouncers and the bartenders by name. Start being friends or making friends. The women will practically fall into your lap
/r/seduction16/05/26 05:44 PM
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What’s wrong with seeing prostitutes?
/r/seduction15/05/26 01:58 AM
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You really can NEVER know what the reason is. Believing you can know causes nothing but frustration. With time, repeat experience, and gentle reflection, you’ll get better at it
/r/seduction14/05/26 07:38 PM
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Awesome! This is EXACTLY how you do it! And you’ll find, as you get more familiar with this and actually go on dates with some women, that most of the women you talk to look good but you don’t have good chemistry with. Doesn’t mean you can’t get a date, or even get them in bed. Just that it’s not really much fun. And then you can quickly identify that she’s not a good match, when you’re talking to her at first, and at the end of the conversation you thank her and go back to your work. No problem
/r/seduction14/05/26 04:23 PM
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It's really true. You have no idea why things didn't work out. From what I've seen in life with women friends (and my girlfriends and wife, who would regularly get hit on), the problem is usually totally unrelated to you. Or related to you, but in a way that doesn't reflect badly on you. You're meeting people in their own moment, of which you know nothing. Just relax, reflect a bit, and go back at it. It's more like learning to ride a bike than learning to build a website.
/r/seduction14/05/26 01:26 PM
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I'd consider seeking a high-quality prostitute. In the initial phase, tell her exactly how you feel, and ask her to help show you how to do better. It will be a little difficult, because she gets paid for pleasing you, so she'll need to really know that you want her to give feedback and help train you with women. Train in sex, too. Have fun with it. For sex, you might want to seek out a woman from one of the tantric temples in the region. A good one can show you how to have really pleasurable se…
/r/seduction14/05/26 01:16 PM
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Teach him how to do what I wrote, above, and he'll be pleasured far beyond anything he can currently imagine.
/r/seduction14/05/26 01:10 PM
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Why not just go to sex-workers? Be kind, and try to develop a bit of a healing relationship. See if you can't find your way into a different relationship with women and sex. Who knows what the future holds? Certainly not you or me
/r/seduction13/05/26 04:18 AM
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Get ok with yourself, grounded and basically happy. Make some women friends, just as friends (though a little flirtation Is fun)
/r/seduction13/05/26 01:19 AM
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Wherever there’s women in public, or through parties, or friend networks
/r/seduction12/05/26 10:59 PM
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It's possible? Modern society has made alienation quite common. I'd work hard to overcome it. Giving out kindness to others from the heart is an amazing way to release anxiety and feelings of separateness and alienation. By paying close attention to people's faces, you can learn to read micro-expressions. It's ok. Most people want to be touched, if you've built a bit of trust already and the intention is good.
/r/seduction12/05/26 08:56 PM
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I mean, you’re starting with the zero- chemistry basis of OLD. In real life, you’d exclude 90% of the woman that look good to you within about 15 seconds. Once you’re using OLD, you’re still going on coffee dates with them to find out what should take seconds. But now that you’re there, you feel like you ought to get something from it. But the whole “ought” is just something you’re making up. OLD is a dismal, incredibly inefficient way of finding out if there’s any chemistry. Sounds like there w…
/r/seduction12/05/26 07:26 PM
1

Probably you're stuck in your head and self-consciousness creates feelings of wrongness with touch, because you're concerned about whether the other person wants it and etc. That's very common among bright, conscientious people. Get out of your head. Don't focus on content, but on tone and context. Relax and look at the whole of what's happening, rather than getting focused on this or that word or idea. Feel how you feel with a woman in your heart and belly. When you're around her, rather than w…
/r/seduction12/05/26 01:49 PM
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I really, really want to encourage you to drop this frame of trying to get sex. Are you really amazing at sex? Because the average guy comes in less than 5 minutes. And an orgasm after 5 minutes of sex is a lousy orgasm (unless the circumstances are REALLY hot). It's truly a cock-sneeze. And her experience? You're just trying to use her body. Honestly, I don't think you even really want that, you just think it's what you're supposed to want. Instead of trying to get orgasms from women, try to fi…
/r/seduction12/05/26 01:43 PM
1

Every time I’ve gone home with a girl because I felt like I “should,” I’ve regretted it.
/r/seduction11/05/26 09:53 PM
1

Go talk to her
/r/seduction11/05/26 07:47 PM
2

Yeah, this is really the key. And lots of experience helps. The big thing is just getting over yourself. Nobody cares that much about what you do or think, so why aren't you making a beautiful adventure out to it!
/r/seduction11/05/26 12:44 PM
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Women tend to look much more at the WHOLE picture. The looks, the clothes, the voice, the playfulness or seriousness, the posture, the hand gestures, the eyes, the work, the family, the friends, the home or apartment, etc. She sees you as ALL those things. Definitely, a guy who’s dynamic and confident and keeps a good figure and has some style is almost always going to do better than the same guy who is slovenly and paunchy and dressed like a teenager.
/r/seduction11/05/26 11:36 AM
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No, no. Reward the good girl with praise and pleasure, and punish the bad girl with spankings and corrections
/r/seduction11/05/26 04:35 AM
1

If she was hugging you in the line, then you playfully flirt at the edges, closer and further, closer and further, until you’re making out. Even then she might ditch you. Cubs are for hookups and IG exchanges
/r/seduction10/05/26 11:14 PM
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Just go out and try to connect to people. Don’t try to get laid. Go out to meet people. Because you’re not trying to seduce anyone, you don’t need to worry about any of that. Here’s the real, magic secret trick. Seriously, but you have to really do it for it to work. When you first step into the bar or club or cafe, stop near the door and look around. You’ll surely feel anxious about how they’re going to judge or accept you. That’s natural. Now consider all the difficulties they’re having in the…
/r/seduction09/05/26 10:13 PM
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Yes. Some guys then take that message and make it an extremist thing — they become shameless assholes, aka edgelords. There’s two shitty extremes of behavior, both of which are bad for the person doing them, but one is worse for everyone else. 1) being so worried about doing harm or being called a creep that you basically don’t talk to women. 2) being so callous and insensitive that you just do whatever you want without regard for others, and telling everyone else to “just deal.” In both cases, …
/r/seduction09/05/26 05:27 PM
1

Yes, centered, grounded dominance that’s not afraid of erotic power, is the most effective way to seduce women. At least beautiful, submissive women
/r/seduction09/05/26 03:44 PM
4

It’s not very hard, because if you’re working hard at it, you’re not doing it right. WhenI was really dating, I would talk to beautiful women, everywhere I went. I would flirt with them, if I liked them and they seemed responsive. Most of the time, I would quickly see that there wasn’t a good match — just something in the personality that I didn’t like, or in mine that they didn’t. Or whatever?! I would usually broadcast subtly but clearly that I didn’t have much money, because I wasn’t trying t…
/r/seduction09/05/26 03:42 PM
1

Kudos! You’re absolutely right! It’s addictive but hollow. The satisfaction becomes the idea that you did the thing, not the actual thing. Like you’re keeping score. But what’s the point, if not the experience? And meanwhile, you’re not building anything too much— no long term relationships, no kids, no home. You’ve got a business that’s doing alright. That’s great! Can you imagine yourself doing the coaching while in a long term relationship? How would that look? Begin to imagine it. Because yo…
/r/seduction09/05/26 04:45 AM
1

Absolutely. Just remember how you felt in those moments when someone insisted on talking to you while you're focusing on your podcast or music you're enjoying. Irritated. Annoyed. Get your head out of your asses (or better, get your mind out of your head and down into your heart and belly).
/r/seduction08/05/26 04:38 PM
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If she’s got headphones on, leave her alone.
/r/seduction07/05/26 11:21 PM
1

That is kind of shocking! I'd ask how you could not notice, but I suppose not noticing is not something one normally does consciously.
/r/seduction07/05/26 07:05 PM
5

Learning to dance is a two part process. 1) learn rhythm. Listen to music and keep the beat with your hands, or drum along. Then do the same thing, but with knee bends instead of finger taps. Notice there’s multiple rhythms. Try to sync with each of them, in turn, 2) begin to explore the movement of the joints of the body. Every joint has its degrees of comfortable movement. Great dancing uses every joint, sometimes. The most important are the knees, the hips (go back and forth, not just side to…
/r/seduction07/05/26 05:45 PM
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GET OFF THE INTERNET! Your Instagram is like your business card to show that you live a life that she might want to join. It doesn’t need to be all gold- plated, just show a little style and like you have friends and adventures and some satisfaction in life. Meet women in the real world. Most aren’t on dating apps, anyway. They’re all walking around in the world, wondering why men don’t ever ask them out in person
/r/seduction07/05/26 12:28 PM
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There’s no reason to speculate. Her grandma might have died, or she just went through a breakup and is still healing, or she’s borderline and runs away every time someone gets close, etc. Focus on what you actually know for sure, and move on
/r/seduction07/05/26 03:28 AM
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I can feel the charm oozing out! Clearly no defensiveness! Except for the defense he mounted, to her, and then to us, about how he’s innocent. If someone’s a lunatic, then you ignore them, not argue with them and then write a post about how you’re right and your interlocutor is wrong
/r/seduction06/05/26 06:17 PM
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1) she’s half-mistaken. You absolutely need to show sexual interest. Not showing sexual interest is cowardly. But showing sexual interest immediately is coarse and creepy. First, engage her as a person. If she is open and responsive, and you’re lingering her, then you begin to playfully show sexual interest. 2) if a woman calls you out on misogyny, then just listen and learn. Take her criticisms to heart, without defending or trying to reason out of it or interpret it. Just listen in your feelin…
/r/seduction06/05/26 04:32 PM
1

Yes, game is feeling comfortable in yourself while really connecting with other people, and having joy doing it
/r/seduction06/05/26 02:00 AM
1

And not just any bullshit. It wants nothing more than to please you
/r/seduction05/05/26 01:56 AM
1

They need to be constantly challenged, everywhere. I had Claude argue to me, a couple weeks ago, that substance X would do damage to substance Y because X was fairly acidic at pH 8.
/r/seduction04/05/26 08:49 PM
2

There's no question that you're unlikely to get laid if you refuse to learn to talk to women in ways that demonstrate your carnal desire for them, and do it frequently. All that is absolutely worth practicing. But show some judgment and learn some skill, boys
/r/seduction04/05/26 06:45 PM
1

Sure, sex is great. But it's only good if you can actually connect with someone. Can you actually see them without contracting into fear or projecting into fantasy? Where is the desire in your body, and does it arise in relation to every woman? Or do you just desire the idea of them, or some of them? If you can't see women, you're better off connecting with your hand.
/r/seduction04/05/26 06:41 PM
0

Why?
/r/seduction04/05/26 05:34 PM
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Let's take a logical approach, taking for granted that every frame can be represented as a set of axioms and common notions and the propositions derived from them. Then every frame suffers two obvious problems. First, its axioms are not self-evident because there is no self-evident axiom. That's the crisis that started with Non-Euclidean geometry and has been resolved by a general acceptance that logical-mathematical structures are not absolute structures but instead more like different ecosyste…
/r/seduction04/05/26 05:31 PM
2

I've met a ton of thirsty guys who definitely don't get laid. But sure, if you hit on every woman at the club, you'll end up getting laid by someone. But why are you so focused on getting laid? What do you get from that, especially when it's with someone you don't remotely care for? Masturbation is better, frankly, than bad sex. But I'll be more frank -- I don't really understand why people are so obsessed with sex. And I say that as someone who spent many years obsessed with sex. But if you're …
/r/seduction04/05/26 05:14 PM
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I don't think we're in disagreement. I find LLMs extraordinarily foolish, extremely intelligent, and often deeply insightful about personality. While I've gotten lots of terrible advice from them, I've also had a couple of instances where they were able to point out identity structures that had been pestering me for years, but I couldn't quite get into view. And once I was able to see the structures, in both cases, they largely dissolved (though that process involves facing some pain and a sense…
/r/seduction04/05/26 01:08 PM
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I wouldn’t take anything an LLM says as reality. It’s just more ideas, and every frame is ultimately false. And you should be wary that it’s still going to be trying to flatter you. But this exercise would still probably go a long way toward helping guys who are feeling really stuck.
/r/seduction04/05/26 11:24 AM
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That’s what the mind tells you. And everyone around you can smell the desperation and insecurity. Relax, and learn to enjoy your life as it is. Then you’ll have no trouble with women. And when you do, you’re still ok!
/r/seduction03/05/26 03:33 PM
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Stop trying to get laid. You sound thirsty as fuck, and I’m sure everyone can feel that. Just go out and have adventures, do things you enjoy, take some risks, talk to lots of women, especially gorgeous ones, and be ready to fuck, if the opportunity presents itself
/r/seduction03/05/26 01:53 PM
1

Do you really value her as a friend? Then cultivate friendship and stop romanticizing her in your mind. Are you only her friend because you want to date her? Then you’re the nice guy that women complain about. You’ve probably built up this whole idea, and when you finally tell her about your feelings and she rejects you, you’ll flame out. If you want to date a woman, center yourself in your belly around her, and let her know you want her. You don’t need to say anything, at first. She’ll notice t…
/r/seduction02/05/26 05:08 PM
2

I really don’t think looks matter as much as you’re making them out to matter. Style and centeredness and fitness and adventure are more important for women. Obviously, looks make a difference.
/r/seduction02/05/26 04:41 PM
1

She’s a goddess. She’s not for you
/r/seduction02/05/26 04:33 PM
2

Viewing her as a muse or goddess, and NOT wanting to possess her, can be totally healthy. But then go and find women who are not your goddess, who you want to possess, to whom you can be clear about your desire. And ravish them
/r/seduction02/05/26 04:17 PM
1

Stop worrying about how you'll be perceived. Instead, pay attention to her, and respond with care a playfulness, and charge. https://youtu.be/ulrxrM8Sldk?
/r/seduction30/04/26 03:28 PM
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You’re hearing the call, but too afraid to make the move. It won’t always work, so don’t build expectation. Just go for it when you feel the moment is right. It’s ok if you’re wrong, as long as you’re not an asshole about it, afterward
/r/seduction29/04/26 10:58 PM
5

It can be hard. The key is to start by changing your goal from trying to get laid to looking for relationship depth. I can get tons of women in bed, but I don’t. Why not? First, because I’m happily married. Second, because even when I was single, I quickly saw that sex can’t get above about a 7, workout great relationship. And a great relationship is so much more, so much deeper, so much more fulfilling (and irritating) as well. One thing you can explore much more deeply with a great partner is …
/r/seduction29/04/26 07:22 PM
4

Stop thinking of women as hoes. That’s a start
/r/seduction28/04/26 03:51 PM
1

Those girls have expectations that you probably don’t want to fulfill. It’s not to say that you don’t want to spend money on your woman, or take care of her. It’s that you don’t know if this woman is your woman. Consider the women with high demand for first dates as filtering themselves out. If they like you, they’ll probably go for the coffee date. If they don’t, why are you trying to impress her?
/r/seduction28/04/26 02:30 PM
1

I feel for you, man. There’s literally an infinity of other frameworks and perspectives. The economic perspective is important to understand, deeply, and can be very useful for analysis of business and helpful for analysis of political policy. But it’s also worth noting that it is false. Micro-economics is a beautiful, consistent system based on obviously false axioms. In particular, that humans are rational beings seeking to maximize utility or satisfy as many preferences as you can. Sure, ther…
/r/seduction28/04/26 02:05 PM
1

I’ve studied economics quite closely, especially Micro-economics. I understand that it’s an interpretive framework that one can use in many circumstances, certainly including relationships. But there’s an infinity of other frameworks that can be used, as well. Why economics?
/r/seduction28/04/26 12:39 AM
1

It seems like you're dreaming things up to make yourself unhappy. Why? But I've spent time seducing women who previously had one night stands. I'm not worried about a woman's past. Instead, I pay attention to her present patterns. Do you think you're in some kind of competition with the other guy, and the winner is the one who takes her to bed the fastest? That's a game you guys are playing. Why?
/r/seduction27/04/26 05:39 PM
2

Presence trumps everything else. It's not what you do, it's how you do it. Be there for what's happening, not planning what comes next. Learn to work with pleasure and the breath.
/r/seduction27/04/26 03:06 PM
2

That's nonsense. People can be coerced or manipulated into all sorts of things. Most of the guys obsessed with getting laid don't even really know how to enjoy sex, they just do it out of insecurity, as a way to reinforce the story they want to tell themselves about how they're alpha or whatever performative bullshit they heard on a podcast. They've been manipulated into spending tremendous time and energy pursuing something they don't really even want, or know how to enjoy. And one can do simil…
/r/seduction27/04/26 03:00 PM
1

I've been many women's first good man. It's a position I've prided myself in occupying, in fact. But she needs to be someone you really have a lot of passion and compassion for. And what joy I experience as they realize that they can open into safety AND sensual intensity AND functionality AND joy. But you need to be really grounded and secure to be able to hold that space for someone to unravel their reaction patterns. And then, after they found a little stability and centeredness, I would move…
/r/seduction27/04/26 02:53 PM
1

Traumatized people have added defenses. They're not broken, and they will not be fixed. They can find joy and stability, but you will need to clear that space for them, and hold it, because they are not familiar with it. Unfortunately, their reactive patterns from past harms usually lead them into more harmful relationships, until they can really see the pattern fully.
/r/seduction27/04/26 02:45 PM
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She likes you and feels like you two might have potential for something real. To build trust, you need to build trust. That takes patience, and the ability to relax and show her you're not going to take advantage of her. The key is to find ways to draw her out of her head and into her body and sensations. In conversation, keep bringing her back to what's happening, right now. That's easier if you're in a space which is sensual and beautiful. Choose a spot for its atmosphere. If you take her home…
/r/seduction27/04/26 02:42 PM
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The key is to really get in there and process your own feelings of insecurity and vulnerability. Don't hide from it. Work through the pain, and the ideas you have about your identity, etc. Keep working at it until you see that your ideas of yourself are mostly made-up, and highly prejudiced. Start from the feelings in the body, of fear and insecurity. You're not what you think, and neither is anyone else. So relax a little. This process might take a few weeks or months, if you approach it with c…
/r/seduction27/04/26 02:12 PM
1

Once you learn to enjoy the play without getting caught up in the drama, it's joyful and simple. Which isn't to say that you get the girl that you think you want. It's just that you enjoy what is working, and don't fret about the stuff that isn't.
/r/seduction27/04/26 02:05 PM
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Attraction is just there, or it's not. Indeed. Forcing attraction might get you laid, but it's rarely very satisfying. What's the point -- bragging rights to your bros? And yet, you and she are not eternal essences whose chemistry is determined at birth. You are dynamic, relational beings whose appearance and activity is conditioned by the past and present circumstances. So yes, you're searching for genuine chemistry. But to find it, sometimes you need to learn techniques to allow a woman to rel…
/r/seduction27/04/26 01:58 PM
0

Yeah, I saw a whole documentary about the stability of such marriages, recently. It’s called “Trust Me,” on Netflix
/r/seduction24/04/26 08:41 PM
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Honestly, when I hear guys talking about virgins, I can’t help but feel like they’re kind of pedos, or are profoundly insecure and probably terrible at sex. Go get yourself right, man, before you subject someone else to your internal works
/r/seduction24/04/26 05:10 PM
1

Great advice. Why do more than a coffee date, anyway? Unless you already know her fairly well, you don’t know whether to want to seriously date her. So do coffee and see if there’s chemistry. Then you can woo her more intensely on the second date, if you want (which doesn’t mean fancy dinner, though it could).
/r/seduction24/04/26 11:19 AM
1

Why is everyone obsessed with hookups? Hookups are usually 2nd rate sex, guys. Look for women that you at least want to date for a few weeks, even though you both sort of know it’s not going anywhere.
/r/seduction24/04/26 03:25 AM
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What does "open and maskless" mean? As another respondent noted, men are the ones who have been behind 95% of the abuse I've suffered in life. Isn't that part of the reason men are so afraid to be vulnerable -- if they show vulnerability around other men, they often get humiliated relentlessly. But the deeper point is that neither men nor women respond well to whining or complaining or talking about ones weaknesses. Obviously, there's groups that are supportive for those discussions, but often t…
/r/seduction23/04/26 05:48 PM
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If you enter into relationships from an instrumental viewpoint -- seeing your body and behavior as a tool to manipulate the body and behavior of others for some reward (sex, in this case) -- then you should be unsurprised when the objects you're trying to manipulate for gratification struggle for their own authority through manipulation. If you drop that viewpoint, and stop trying to get sex but instead seek mutual intimacy or mutual joy or even mutual freedom, then everything shifts. I have ton…
/r/seduction23/04/26 01:32 PM
1

Enjoy — it’s a great age to be a man, and women are amazing in their 30s, if you want kids
/r/seduction22/04/26 11:00 PM
3

If you get that kind of signal and you like her vibe, take deep breath, center yourself in your belly, and go talk to her immediately.
/r/seduction22/04/26 08:56 PM
0

"Hey, I liked your vibe but I'm getting irritated with the scheduling. Give me a call when you're feeling clear." Then just leave it at that
/r/seduction22/04/26 07:03 PM
1

Go pursue other women. So things you love. Go out with friends. Really try to make a joyful, loving adventure of your life. And, once in a while, drop her an invite to something you’re already doing, with a clear (but maybe not explicit) offer to rock her world at the end of the night, if she wants. Or tell her you’re not looking for a relationship, either. But you need a test subject for your experiments with the female orgasm. Then do some research on being an incredible lover, and really expe…
/r/seduction22/04/26 05:47 PM
1

Yes and no. It seems like you're burdened with shame. And that's making you self-conscious and unbalanced. But rather than trying to escape shame by becoming shameless, can you escape shame by really going into the pain, really exploring the insecurity and desire for validation, really integrating it? Because stuffing it down and pretending like you don't care often leads to vile behavior. And while it can sometimes work to fool people for a while, it won't fool your body, and you'll be stuck ca…
/r/seduction22/04/26 12:44 PM
1

Try sitting at a lunch table with some women. Ask if it’s alright if you sit with them. Listen to their conversation for a bit. Then make a comment or, even better, ask a question. Nothing too serious, just be playful and have some fun with it. Don’t expect anything
/r/seduction21/04/26 10:25 PM
11

They really don’t. At most, they give Chad sultry looks
/r/seduction21/04/26 10:22 PM
5

Pretty much every woman is a challenge. There’s a resistance and suspicion, at the least. A guy who hasn’t learned to push through is a guy who has no dates, except those that fall into his lap. On the other hand, there’s a fairly clear limit to when you should stop pushing. When she closes down, when she’s obviously looking for ways to escape, when she’s saying nice things so you’ll leave her alone without throwing a tantrum, then you need to stop, relax, and go do something else. It’s all abou…
/r/seduction21/04/26 09:50 PM
1

Learning to relax, deeply. It's like the first step in meditation. Breathe into the belly, deep and gentle. Bring your attention to the belly and the center of the chest. Relax into the sensations of the breath and the feelings moving in those regions. When thought arise, which they always do, listen to them without following them. Then return to the belly and the heart. Often, vigorous exercise can help clear some of the crap off the top, too. It's a good preparation
/r/seduction21/04/26 05:37 PM
1

For sure! But it’s different, because you can’t depend on your reputation. You’ll need to learn new skills and practice a lot of courage. Over time, you’ll cultivate new gets of friends around with and interests, and then it becomes more like in a smaller town where you grew up
/r/seduction21/04/26 12:14 AM
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Harmless? A harmless white lie is lying that you didn’t get them the birthday present they were asking for, or you were late for the meeting because of a traffic jam. You’re lying about your character and intentions in the hopes that it will create enough trust and excitement in a woman that she’ll let you penetrate her body with your penis, and possibly impregnate her. The worst lie is the one we tell ourselves.
/r/seduction20/04/26 09:14 PM
1

Then don't worry about it and go talk to some other women
/r/seduction20/04/26 02:51 PM
3

This is gibberish. But even if it were true, it takes for granted that you have any idea how women react to men. All you know is how women react to you, and even there your interpretation is more speculation than fact.
/r/seduction20/04/26 01:12 PM
1

Lying can certainly work. Tell her you're a single tech billionaire and don't have any venereal diseases, and you're more likely to get a bottle-service girl into the sack. But how depressing is that?
/r/seduction20/04/26 01:10 PM
3

My body-count is in the 30s. The vast majority of those were women I really liked, and a few were women I loved. A few were just a mistake — the ones where I had to reason myself into it. I met a woman in my early thirties, and we’ve been together over ten years, now. Definitely no trouble pair-bonding. We have an extraordinary relationship, with two kids and amazing sex and everything. I was always good at pair bonding, though. Dating gave me a chance to learn about my desire and compatibility …
/r/seduction20/04/26 11:18 AM
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There’s nothing to be ashamed of, but also know that it’s not publicly acceptable. So be a gentleman and don’t go waving it around. Your interpretations based on soul mates and all that are nonsense that you can believe because you didn’t talk to the women. All it means is that there was some chemistry in your animal body, which is great! So you’re tuned into the chemistry. Pay attention to it. That’s an important signal! Next time, talk to her. And if she’s closed off, press a little bit. If sh…
/r/seduction19/04/26 04:53 PM
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I’d strongly encourage you to settle into your body and learn to self-regulate your nervous system into its parasympathetic response. From there, you can begin to explore the feelings of insecurity and doubt, in your body. The feelings come from comparisons you’ve made between the person you imagine yourself to be (which has some glancing relationship to who you are) and the person you imagine others to be. So drop all the imagining of who you are and who others are, Ana just drop into what you’…
/r/seduction19/04/26 03:00 PM
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Excellent list. I would add that men are no more logical or consistent than women. They’re just more attuned to their emotions. Men are more controlled by their emotions, though, because their emotions are at least as strong, but they’re less aware of them.
/r/seduction18/04/26 07:01 PM
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She gave you a series of huge opportunities. She needs you to be man enough to step forward and show your desire for her, and do it in a way that’s delicate and playful enough to charm her. That’s the dance. She took your hand and invited you out onto the dance floor, but you dug in your heels and refused to dance
/r/seduction18/04/26 04:45 PM
1

Anyone stupid or unrestrained enough to do that in public, to a stranger, is also liable to drag you into an alley and rape you. Don’t try to attract that, and be wary in places where men think that’s tolerable behavior. But you can find some of what you’re looking for at BDSM/kink parties. Go explore, with consciousness and consent
/r/seduction18/04/26 04:08 PM
5

Most people just aren’t a good match, and looks are only a small (but important) part of the equation. Most women will reject a guy who’s a 9, most of the time
/r/seduction18/04/26 03:59 PM
1

Dude, go talk to her
/r/seduction18/04/26 01:13 AM
2

Learn them both, but don’t do either just to meet women. Do them to meet yourself. That kind of thirsty energy is palpable and an instant turnoff to all but the most desperate or deranged women. Watch how it moves in your body and mind, with kindness and patience, and let it unspool on its own
/r/seduction17/04/26 09:17 PM
1

If your girlfriend is full hearted in her interest in exploring this with you, then it will easily happen. Lots of women would like to do it, but don’t want the drama.
/r/seduction17/04/26 08:50 PM
1

Absolutely. I don’t know what you mean by cold approach, exactly, but I talk to unknown women all the time. What’s great about it is that you very quickly get an excellent sense of your baseline chemistry. Then you can quickly see how you connect, wherever she’s open to your playfulness, how she expresses herself erotically. That’s in about 5 minutes. And, you know what, the vast majority of the time it’s just not a good match. Which is fine, because you spend between 5 seconds and 5 minutes fig…
/r/seduction17/04/26 04:36 PM
2

Just relax, buddy. You’re getting lots of matches and girls are giving you compliments. That means you can relax. Have fun with women, slow then you’re not a boy by bringing yourself down into your sex, which naturally brings the voice a bit lower and softer, and shifts the posture. Imagine a beautiful woman in front of you, at home. Don’t talk to her, at first. Just seduce her with your body. Then speak, but don’t worry at what you’re saying. Just say something. But say it from your desire for …
/r/seduction17/04/26 03:18 AM
1

Relax, and bring a little kindness down into your body
/r/seduction16/04/26 11:37 PM
1

Money and muscles and negging, it’s a culture of hollow-souled nihilists
/r/seduction16/04/26 10:02 PM
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Dude, you weren’t honest about your desire, and hid like a coward. She likely pegged you for a nice guy who would pretend to want to be friends, not actually try to seduce her, and then get all pissy when she starts dating someone else. And it appears she was dead on. Sure your desire with centered, playful courage, or don’t be disappointed
/r/seduction16/04/26 09:43 PM
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They’re likely not ready for such close intimacy, yet
/r/seduction16/04/26 08:57 PM
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She probably went on a date, instead. No need to call her out, since friends have loser obligations in those regards. If she believes you really want to be her friend just to be her friend, it likely won’t be a problem. But you didn’t want to just be her friend. That’s why you’re hurt enough to delete her number. And that’s what she could see — that you were not brave enough to be open about your desire, and instead did the nice guy. She’s probably fed up with nice guys
/r/seduction16/04/26 03:04 PM
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Look in the body. That’s the true root of eros. Many people don’t know their desire, though, and so they substitute the judgments of their friends, or family, or advertisers
/r/seduction15/04/26 09:50 PM
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How do you know if you find a woman hot, or not?
/r/seduction15/04/26 09:02 PM
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That’s just more of the same attempts of the reified sense of self seeking to control reality, but taken to an unusually tyrannical extreme. What’s controlling? What is the will?
/r/seduction15/04/26 08:15 PM
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Edited to reflect that
/r/seduction15/04/26 05:30 PM
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You're at an age where it's common and healthy to explore the differences between sexual desire and friendship, and the boundaries that we set for our conduct in relation to those feelings. So if you have a female friend that you also find you're attracted to, and who you can connect with at the heart, allow yourself to experience more erotic charge around her. See how that changes your behavior. See how she responds. Be playful, and have fun. Stay centered and take care of yourself, both body a…
/r/seduction15/04/26 05:08 PM
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Then it's time to start looking at what's keeping you so judgmental and unhappy in your body-mind. It's painful to look at our insecurities and dissatisfactions, and difficult to resist the impulse to just condemn yourself or excuse your feelings and behavior. But opening deeply to your feelings and thoughts is the path to genuine strength, and creates the space to actually relate to others. Until you get ok with yourself, you're always trapped in your head and the fun-house mirrors of judgment …
/r/seduction14/04/26 05:44 PM
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Yeah, take for granted that the conversation will continue. Have patience. But don't sit around waiting -- go out and do what you'd do any other day, including meeting and dating other women.
/r/seduction13/04/26 02:23 PM
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Right, you discovered the great secret -- many women desire sex with men outside their long-term relationship. And when they actually go through with it, they like to fuck guys that get them hot, which sometimes was you. All the rest is interpretation. It's not even baseless theology, because much of it has been decisively shown to be false. I mean, just think of the idea of Alpha males. It's such obvious nonsense, while also having just enough relationship to what happens to be compelling to in…
/r/seduction13/04/26 02:10 PM
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Have you read the first response in this thread? What's the difference between science and speculative philosophy/theology? Both make claims about the nature of things, after all. The difference is that speculative philosophers and theologians make claims, then stand around looking pleased with themselves or bickering. It can be a very useful path for learning to clarify thinking, but not for finding facts about the world. Meanwhile, scientists make claims, and then go around trying to test them…
/r/seduction13/04/26 01:00 PM
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So basically, men and women behave pretty much exactly the same way with regard to cheating (except, according to research, women likely cheat slightly less). And now you're trying to give an interpretation why, which depends on men and women trying to do different things. But your interpretation has been shown false, pretty conclusively. And yet you still insist on this being some kind of fundamental difference between men and women. Obviously, men and women are different. That's not in questio…
/r/seduction13/04/26 12:33 PM
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Wait -- are you telling us that some married women flirt with other men?!? And sometimes have affairs?!? But that's true of married men, too. Are they also engaging in a "dual mating strategy"?
/r/seduction13/04/26 12:23 PM
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Just talk to more women. You’ll be fine. You’ve got some weird, self-conscious vibe going on. There’s lots of ways of being human. One of them is when your mind conceptualizer yourself as an object, almost like a puppet, and then controls it like a video game. Some things give you pleasure (points), other things give you pain (damage) and some is just indifferent. Maximize those points!
/r/seduction12/04/26 04:17 PM
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No, for sure. You definitely shouldn’t date single women over 30. They’re far too experienced
/r/seduction10/04/26 01:30 AM
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What a bunch of nonsense
/r/seduction09/04/26 11:39 PM
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No woman wants a performative male speaking through AI. They want a guy who has actually done the work to explore his vulnerability and turn it into deep stability, genuinely knows how to attune with women, is sensitive to the emotional world, and wants freedom and full expression for ALL people, including women. Then many of them want that guy to be secure enough to take possession of her in bed, and make her whimper and cry like an animal
/r/seduction09/04/26 10:37 PM
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Just talk to more women. You’ll be fine. You’ve got some weird, self-conscious vibe going on. Shake it off
/r/seduction09/04/26 10:12 PM
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Doesn’t have to
/r/seduction09/04/26 07:04 PM
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Totally true. In many countries, if you don't call almost immediately after getting a woman's number, you're not really interested enough to be worth her time.
/r/seduction09/04/26 06:11 PM
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You just stop putting so much weight on the outcome. Most women will not be a good match. Many of those we’ll reject you right away. A few will reject you later. The others you’ll have to figure out, yourself, and reject them later. Rejection isn’t a such a problem. And there’s lots of women. It’s like driving a car. The first times you drive, you’re ask nervous and tense. Then, over hours and hours and hours, you get familiar with driving. Hopefully you pay attention, and also get better at it.…
/r/seduction08/04/26 01:09 AM
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It feels like ease. It's being at home in your body-mind. It's the gentle joy that flows without cause, once we release all the expectations and start to be present with reality in all its richness. And yes, it is very seductive to both men and women
/r/seduction07/04/26 05:08 PM
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If you're paying bills and contributing to the house, why not just find a roommate and move out of your parents' home?
/r/seduction07/04/26 02:27 PM
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What is the "male imperative"? If you need to use it in an argument, then it's not compelling in its own right. We have urges in many directions, which ones do we follow? I don't think getting more, hotter girls is going to be a very happy life for you. I enjoy dating, and love women, so I get what you're saying, I think. But this isn't a video game. You don't get points, and there's no winning. Where is the satisfaction? How fully are you experiencing your being in the world?
/r/seduction07/04/26 01:07 PM
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It's definitely a thing. One place to look is among non-monogamous couples -- often the woman is open to exciting sex with a strong young buck, but not so open to a love relationship. Usually not like the cuckold stuff you see in porn or whatever, more like she's trying to find some charge in her life, before she goes through menopause. They have lots of options, though, so it's still very competitive. You might find them on Feeld, or at ENM events. There's also older women who like to be sort o…
/r/seduction07/04/26 01:02 PM
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Women don't hate each other!?! What are you talking about, dude?
/r/seduction07/04/26 12:55 PM
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I'd say that he's speaking pretty accurately, but not completely. It's also essential to really attend to your partner. Make sure you're having a good time! AND, look for ways to attune to her. Perhaps the best way is to first ask some basic questions and get a feeling for her body and energy. Attune to that. Then, while staying attuned, find ways to make the interaction joyful and pleasant for yourself. If you can't do so, then you're not a good match. If you can find ways to joy while attuned …
/r/seduction07/04/26 12:49 PM
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OK, I'm largely in agreement. But we're not talking about whether people should seek awakening (I don't think). Don't people seeking stability often prioritize comfort to soothe and avoid pain, stable partners to reinforce their sense of value and identity and validate their life choices, etc.? And there are abundant problems that arise in relationships with people who persistently avoid conflicts and seek comfort and predictable routine, starting with boredom, frequently leading to dead bedroom…
/r/seduction07/04/26 12:07 PM
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What?!? At 28? Where do you bring her after a date? Introduce her to your parents and ask if you can have a sleepover?
/r/seduction07/04/26 11:53 AM
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It's pretty easy. Just clarify your boundaries with yourself, and then enact them with her. What are the hard lines? What are the soft lines? Don't get drunk with her until you've clarified those for both of you. Then hold to them. There's tons of great women in the world -- appreciate this one, but don't go back
/r/seduction07/04/26 11:52 AM
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What are the right reasons?
/r/seduction06/04/26 10:30 PM
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Pretty important unless you’re looking for an arranged marriage or some other kind of super-traditional arrangement. Go out more. Make some friends. Have adventures. Meet women in the world, and get comfortable initiating conversations and flirting
/r/seduction06/04/26 10:29 PM
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When you're in bed with her, put all your attention on her face and body and feelings and breath. Begin to explore your desire with her, going where you want. But always watching her with gentle attention. Be patient, and go slowly, feeling into her desire and her pleasure, working with it, expanding it and filling her with it. If she suddenly hardens up, then slow down further, or back up a bit. You can do all sorts of things, and if you watch her closely, you can ensure that she's consenting. …
/r/seduction06/04/26 06:44 PM
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You can certainly have commitment and excitement. Just like you can be dominant and conscientious.
/r/seduction06/04/26 06:38 PM
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