Eleusis713 Archive

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5	How do you educate yourself about men's right? What are yours resorces? Any valuable scientific data, books written by experts, or other well-researched materials? The Myth Of Male Power and The Boy Crisis by Warren Farrell: These books touch upon various topics such as male disposability, child custody, DV policies, and how men and boys are falling behind in numerous metrics compared to women and girls (education, mental health, social development, economic prospects, etc.). They provide a good overview of various men's issues in a relative…	/r/MensRights	08/04/25 05:05 PM
3	We entered "what are criticisms of feminism" into Gemini's AI prompt/answer system. This is what we received. Can you show me how feminism is inherently anti-male There are many different flavors of feminism, but they all essentially boil down to reductive power dynamics with men having power over women. This simplistic framework naturally leads to an inaccurate understanding of society and gender relations. But more than that, it directly informs the behavior of feminists leading to tremendous harm through law and policy. Here's a large list with sources detailing much of this harm. Feminists created t…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	29/02/24 08:45 PM
1	I am both an MRA and a feminist, do you agree with me? The ideological roots of feminism are fundamentally flawed. All flavors of feminism boil down to an inaccurate and simplistic framing of the world which leads people to inaccurate and harmful conclusions. There are no ideologies above criticism and feminism is certainly no exception. This ideological thinking has led to such a flawed understanding of the world that society, men's issues, etc. gets twisted and reframed through and oppressor versus oppressed dichotomy (feminist patriarchy theory).…	/r/MensRights	07/11/23 07:01 PM
2	ChatGPT invented a sexual harassment scandal and named a real law prof as the accused As far as I understand, ChatGPT is deliberately programmed to always provide an answer to every prompt it's given regardless of how confident it is with its own answer. This is why its been in the news a lot lately for providing false and manufactured information. So I would agree, at this point in time, we should all take what ChatGPT says with a grain a salt. However, calling ChatGPT and other LLMs "chatbots" is like calling a car a "wheel turner". It doesn't remotely describe what this techno…	/r/MensRights	10/04/23 07:12 PM
46	Men, have you had the conversation about 'your fair share of chores'? If you look at both paid and unpaid labor, men are doing a bit more work than women on average. Even in this day and age, men are generally the breadwinners, so it makes sense for those men to not do as much housework. If person X (male or female) happens to be the breadwinner and person Y doesn't work full time, then it is completely unreasonable to expect person X to also do half of the housework / unpaid labor in addition to the majority of paid labor. This shouldn't have to be spelled out, i…	/r/MensRights	28/02/23 04:00 PM
10	What feminists think of male genital mutilation. Personally, I've found that feminists generally don't care and are the most likely to downplay the negative effects of MGM. I think they may view the downplaying of MGM as a way to make FGM look worse in comparison which reinforces the perception of unique female victimhood. As someone else pointed out, there was a feminist researcher that even went out of their way to publish a seriously flawed study downplaying the negative effects of MGM. Ignorant people don't go out of their way to do someth…	/r/MensRights	14/02/23 06:50 PM
7	Has anyone here been in a relationship in which the woman withheld affection or intimacy following a major disagreement or argument? "Withholding" is a common form of psychological abuse and manipulation (see here and here). Withholding intimacy, affection, etc. is used by an abuser as a way to punish the victim or to maintain bargaining power and manipulate them into behaving in ways that benefit the abuser. In modern society, this type of abuse by women against men is normalized and even encouraged. It's depressing how common this is. Often, both the abuser and the victim don't even recognize how this is abuse in spite of t…	/r/MensRights	18/01/23 03:56 PM
104	I raised my son as a feminist. As an adult, he doesn't want to speak to women nor to spend any time with them. What should I do? Quite simply, feminism is about all genders having equal rights and opportunities. Feminism is not synonymous with "equal rights" or "gender equality". This definition is used as a way to try and get people to adopt the label of "feminist" without thinking very hard. Feminism is an ideology, a set of beliefs and assumptions about the world and the way the world should work, it's not merely a statement about your personal values. All flavors of feminism boil down to an inaccurate and simplistic f…	/r/MensRights	17/01/23 08:51 PM
3	r/menslib is anti male and the mods will gaslight you for talking about issues that affect men r/menslib has never been a safe place for men or for the discussion of men's issues. That community is toxic, intolerant, and doesn't care at all about having honest conversations. Here's a comment where you can clearly see some examples of the problematic censorship, bannings, and downplaying of men's issues that goes on there.	/r/MensRights	31/12/22 01:50 AM
6	r/menslib is anti male and the mods will gaslight you for talking about issues that affect men MensLib has never been a safe place for men or for the discussion of men's issues. That community is toxic, intolerant, and doesn't care at all about talking about having honest conversations, just look at this informative comment. In that comment, you can see many instances of problematic censorship, bannings, and downplaying of men's issues. I believe they even openly say they're not a safe space for discussing men's issues ever since they had that Duluth Model AMA fiasco. r/LeftWingMaleAdvoca…	/r/MensRights	31/12/22 01:45 AM
4	As a woman I wholly stand and support and abide by the men’s rights movement, however because you guys are starting to reach the mainstream more and more you will be met with public resistance The bottom line is that all of the problematic parts of feminism were always unnecessary, and it was counterproductive for all of the good feminism may have accomplished. This is the result of the stark lack of self-criticism within the movement / ideology which has always been lacking ever since it's inception. This may have to do with women being more agreeable than men on average (as well as having automatic in-group bias) which may manifest as an unwillingness to call out other women's probl…	/r/MensRights	20/12/22 05:37 PM
1	Why are we so divided? I just wanted to ask, do you believe feminism shouldn't exist anymore? I tend to think of it in terms of usefulness. I think feminism is simply not useful and usually counterproductive for the goal of gender equality. The language it uses is inflammatory and unproductive (ex. toxic masculinity, here's an explanation/critique), its institutional power is clearly too entrenched in monetary incentives to allow any outside critique, there's no self-criticism within the movement which naturally leads…	/r/MensRights	16/11/22 08:51 PM
10	Why are we so divided? Rarely I see someone truly open to discuss and listen to the problems the other group faces, but from my knowledge, both groups fundamentally just want to be heard and ideally create a world of kindness, compassion and support, and that can be created only if both groups are willing to sit down and listen to each other. There are a lot of "enlightened centrism" people who believe MRAs and feminists are two sides of the same coin and that they should be working together. What you're saying here e…	/r/MensRights	16/11/22 07:46 PM
4	Does anyone know what they're talking about? I'm confused There's some truth to this. If you look at both paid and unpaid labor (for both men and women), men are doing a bit more work than women. Source: https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2013/03/14/chapter-6-time-in-work-and-leisure-patterns-by-gender-and-family-structure/	/r/AntiFeminists	15/11/22 07:57 PM
2	The Secret Injustice: Circumcising Infants is Wrong \| Opinion \| The Harvard Crimson Here's some information I usually share when this topic comes up: Routine infant circumcision is a violation of bodily autonomy. This alone is reason enough not to do it. There's also no compelling medical benefits for non-therapeutic circumcision. We conclude that non-therapeutic circumcision performed on otherwise healthy infants or children has little or no high-quality medical evidence to support its overall benefit. Circumcision is a barbaric practice passed down from our religious roots. H…	/r/MensRights	15/11/22 07:38 PM
2	Feminist AMA Choosing to do an AMA in this sub versus an actual MRA sub like MensRights or LeftWingMaleAdvocates is a bit curious to me. Not to say you won't get any good questions here or that the quality of discussion won't be decent, but it would be far better and more consistent in those other subs which tend to be more focused on thoughtful discussion than this one.	/r/AntiFeminists	10/11/22 04:48 PM
10	Feminist AMA I advise you to trust that those crazy bitches are a loud minority. This isn't an issue with a "loud minority". Feminists with power and influence along with large parts of feminist philosophy are the problem. Feminists created the Duluth model, pushed for primary aggressor laws, redefined rape to specifically erase male victims and female perpetrators, have opposed shared funding for male and female DV shelters, have protested against opening men's shelters and have gotten them shut down, const…	/r/AntiFeminists	10/11/22 04:39 PM
6	Feminist AMA How so? There has never been a female president and the majority (>50%) of people in positions of power are male. This is an Apex fallacy. You're only looking at a subset of men who are in positions of power and using that to represent men as a whole while ignoring everything else (such as men making up the vast majority of the homeless, suicide victims, workplace deaths/injuries, incarcerated, etc.). There are many different ways to evaluate political and economic power in society, looking at o…	/r/AntiFeminists	10/11/22 03:52 PM
43	I'm a woman and I hate anything related to modern day feminism The world should be led by men. Screw a female president. I was with you until this. There are plenty of women out there who have a lot to offer in terms of leadership, wisdom, experience, etc. In a gender equal world, we may not see gender parity in positions of power and influence (due to various harmless factors such as women not being as interested on average) and that should be fine, but this doesn't mean women can't do the job well and that there shouldn't be any women in positions of powe…	/r/AntiFeminists	09/11/22 10:14 PM
1	When Women Can Get Abortions But Men Can’t Opt Out Of Paying Child Support We Should Call It “Abortion Privilege” I'm pro choice, but not for this reason. The concept of bodily autonomy absolutely does not give people a right to a specific elective medical procedure. You're misunderstanding the argument. Making abortion illegal is an example of the state controlling what you can or cannot do with your own body. Bodily autonomy has relevance here. You can say you don't have a right to a specific elective medical procedure, but the legality of voluntarily terminating a pregnancy is still an issue of bodily au…	/r/MensRights	08/11/22 09:36 PM
1	When Women Can Get Abortions But Men Can’t Opt Out Of Paying Child Support We Should Call It “Abortion Privilege” I dunno I feel like socially we've conditioned our selves to just think it's ok and not even think of who they fetus may someday be. This isn't an argument. You can make hypotheticals all day about what the child could be like and how much better the world would be with them in it, but anyone can make counter-hypotheticals showing you all the ways their existence would cause suffering. They could become criminals, terrorists, serial killers, they could just be born into a life of poverty and suf…	/r/MensRights	08/11/22 08:56 PM
0	When Women Can Get Abortions But Men Can’t Opt Out Of Paying Child Support We Should Call It “Abortion Privilege” The reason a fetus's right to life doesn't trump bodily autonomy is because it is not sapient and does not have any rights yet, only those imposed on it by observers. There is no codified "right to life" with the same significance as other basic human rights (like bodily autonomy). See this response to someone else I already made. Even if you granted a fetus all the same rights as a grown human, it still doesn't mean we should allow it to use a woman's womb for 9 months against her will. No livi…	/r/MensRights	08/11/22 08:35 PM
-2	When Women Can Get Abortions But Men Can’t Opt Out Of Paying Child Support We Should Call It “Abortion Privilege” Tell me more about “what the founders had in mind”. Were you there with them 1776? RVW was in 1973. The Founders views on negative versus positive rights are very clear. They advocated for negative rights, not positive ones. Negative rights are those that you secure through inaction by merely being left alone in your own autonomy and these rights cannot be infringed upon in any way. Conversely, positive rights are rights that require an agent outside of yourself to act on your behalf to guarante…	/r/MensRights	08/11/22 08:27 PM
3	When Women Can Get Abortions But Men Can’t Opt Out Of Paying Child Support We Should Call It “Abortion Privilege” I'm bothered by the callousness people have towards developing babies/fetus. Why? A great many people in the developed world see no problem with ending the existence of an organism that has no conscious experience, will to live, or pain receptors (this is what is aborted in the vast majority of cases). By most coherent moral frameworks, a fetus has less moral value than most other complex organisms on the planet, certainly less than a grown human. This is entirely consistent with how humans valu…	/r/MensRights	08/11/22 07:26 PM
3	When Women Can Get Abortions But Men Can’t Opt Out Of Paying Child Support We Should Call It “Abortion Privilege” Basic human rights? Like the right to life? Hmm… The right to bodily autonomy is a well-accepted principle that's used as a moral pillar to inform law, policy, and moral thinking across the developed world. There's no codified "right to life" anywhere in law that would be similar to this with the same significance. I'm going to assume you're from the US because this is typically only a point of contention for people in the US. So before you mention "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" as…	/r/MensRights	08/11/22 07:17 PM
5	When Women Can Get Abortions But Men Can’t Opt Out Of Paying Child Support We Should Call It “Abortion Privilege” Allowing safe and legal abortions is an extension of the basic right of bodily autonomy. This isn't a privilege, it's merely respecting basic human rights. EDIT: It's interesting seeing this downvoted so much for simply stating a fact. For the record, I believe men should have the ability to opt out of financial and legal responsibilities for potential children. Women are making unilateral choices and that should come with the risk of unilateral responsibility. Men shouldn't be subsidizing women…	/r/MensRights	08/11/22 06:47 PM
12	Human psychology doesn't apply to men, does it? I don't see any obvious holes to poke. You're clearly much more articulate than the person you were engaging with. But instead of attempting to debate individual people (especially internet feminists outside of men's communities who probably won't be convinced), I would recommend taking a step back and focus on influencing other people who may view this public exchange. Most people aren't going to go 10+ comments deep to follow a discussion like this. You might want to try airdropping clear and …	/r/MensRights	08/11/22 04:54 PM
6	Men too should be free to exercise their right to choose. Because fatherhood (not just motherhood) should be a choice too and no one, man or woman, should be coerced into parenthood. But you don’t get to financially abandon the person you helped create. Then why are women allowed to do this after the child is born? Your argument is one for more poor, hungry children. If you're really going to argue on the basis of the child (which is a popular conservative argument against abortion for women), then you should realize that forcing someone into potentially 18+ years of child support induced poverty under threat of indefinite imprisonment if they cannot pay is actually a very i…	/r/MensRights	04/11/22 03:15 PM
3	What do you think of circumcision? Mainstream feminism does believe in the equality of all genders. Feminism is not synonymous with "equal rights" or "gender equality". This definition is used as a way to try and get people to adopt the label of "feminist" without thinking very hard. Feminism is an ideology, a set of beliefs and assumptions about the world and the way the world should work, it's not merely a statement about your personal values. All flavors of feminism boil down to an inaccurate and simplistic framing of the worl…	/r/MensRights	02/11/22 06:06 PM
6	What do you think of circumcision? Here's my usual response when this topic comes up: Routine infant circumcision is a violation of bodily autonomy. This alone is reason enough not to do it. There's also no compelling medical benefits for non-therapeutic circumcision. We conclude that non-therapeutic circumcision performed on otherwise healthy infants or children has little or no high-quality medical evidence to support its overall benefit. Circumcision is a barbaric practice passed down from our religious roots. Historically, th…	/r/MensRights	02/11/22 05:44 PM
19	What do you think of 1st wave feminism? Every era of feminism was needlessly harmful and problematic. 1st wave was no exception. It included the suffragettes who were considered domestic terrorists. They targeted politicians with letter bombs and IEDs. They also started the white feather campaign to shame men who didn't enlist into WW1. There were instances of feminists demanding (and getting) the same rights as men without the same responsibilities men had. There were even some feminists advocating for male genocide. And no, this isn…	/r/AntiFeminists	01/11/22 11:40 PM
5	What would you say are your top 3 sources of antifeminist fervor? (im antifeminist) -- Persistent denial that misandry even exists (which is misandry in and of itself), or some feminists accept that it exists but downplay it or claim that its necessary in this day and age for women to hate men (they even write books about why women should hate men). -- Issues facing men are usually ignored, and when they're not, they're reframed as oppression of women. Additionally, "women's issues" always take priority over issues facing men today. -- Double standards are everywhere and when t…	/r/AntiFeminists	31/10/22 02:56 PM
2	Give me a ranking on JP, Matt Walsh and Ben Shapiro and your reasons for that Was JP ever defeated (objectively) in an argument and can you send a link? Other subjects aside, Jordan Peterson is not an objective thinker when it comes to topics like religion and philosophy. He has a history of fixating on the hypothetical utility of religion which is fine and all, but he conflates that with the truth of religion which is a problem. His views tend to be a bit convoluted once you dig into the details a bit. I don't even think he knows himself what he believes is true because …	/r/MensRights	26/10/22 07:15 PM
1	Feminist myths and the facts that disprove them. how is the place where you are from still stuck on proving why diversity and equity is important, that is common sense by now in Canada. It's only common sense within woke circles. Most people prefer equality of opportunity over equity largely because equity requires some degree of authoritarianism which is generally undesirable. If you want everyone to pursue equity, then the onus is on you to justify why that's a good thing. This has yet to be done sufficiently by anyone. Equity (equal outcome…	/r/MensRights	19/10/22 06:17 PM
1	Feminist myths and the facts that disprove them. that is a Jordan Peterson talking point. I'm not a fan of Jordan Peterson and do not follow him. Regardless, this is a fallacious attempt to discredit the point being made by attacking the source (or what you perceive as the source). the world has not seen true equality for men and women. I never said it has, that's not the point being made. Men and women are different, and these differences manifest in a variety of ways. One way they manifest is how men and women (on average) value and prioriti…	/r/MensRights	19/10/22 06:05 PM
6	Do you concede the patriarchy does exist in some form and is at least partly responsible for the predicament of males today? Do you concede the patriarchy does exist in some form and is at least partly responsible for the predicament of males today? Nope. Feminist patriarchy "theory" uses power dynamics to explain society. Its loosely defined as a society that's "male dominated" and that privileges men and subjugates women for men's express benefit. Power dynamics will never be an accurate way to describe the whole of society, history, or gender relations. Patriarchy theory is an unfalsifiable and unscientific framewo…	/r/MensRights	17/10/22 06:14 PM
2	Struggling to find any good argument against mandatory paternity testing Women have had the biological privilege of always knowing whether their children are their own (with the rare exception in modern life of a child being swapped in the hospital). Modern technology has given us the ability to grant this special privilege to men as well. We should make paternity testing routine at birth (if not mandatory) purely out of principle. Anyone who cares about equality and who wants men and women to be on equal footing as much as reasonably possible, should jump at the opp…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	06/10/22 07:41 PM
245	Help this feminist understand. 1 - where did feminism go wrong? Feminism - as I understand it - shouldn’t be about man bashing. Quite the opposite! It ought to be concerned with gender equity for everyone, but instead it’s lead to combativeness. Feminism has always been a problematic ideology/movement all the way back to the Declaration of Sentiments from the Seneca Falls Convention in 1848. It had all the same anti-male hatred we see today in modern feminism. Then there were the suffragettes who were literally terrorists who…	/r/MensRights	05/10/22 06:45 PM
5	I don’t know if this was ever posted here, but I love this tweet. The idea that we should disregard the evil is something only someone truly ignorant or hateful would say. So you believe that well-informed, educated people would never in a million years disagree with either the term or the concept behind the term? I'm sorry, but this is simply delusional. There are a variety of valid reasons why informed and educated people would disagree with the term (and the concept behind it) and I have outlined many of them in my first comment. Not only did I provide actu…	/r/MensRights	04/10/22 02:56 PM
13	I don’t know if this was ever posted here, but I love this tweet. But you dont care about that, you only care about your own fragile egos. Trying to make it seem like things of empathy but its just another attempt at trying to keep people from checking you. Incels will stop at nothing. I was actually going to respond after I read the first paragraph but decided not to after reading the second. Can you really not engage in this conversation without name calling, mind reading, and outright hostility? If you have any desire to engage in good faith, then perhaps y…	/r/MensRights	04/10/22 02:38 PM
16	I don’t know if this was ever posted here, but I love this tweet. My fault for trying to reason with incels. I've provided ample research and arguments backing up the fact that "toxic masculinity" is at the very least an unconstructive and inflammatory term. If you don't have any arguments or constructive input about this, then fine, you don't need to respond. Resorting to baseless name calling only makes you look bad.	/r/MensRights	04/10/22 02:28 PM
10	I don’t know if this was ever posted here, but I love this tweet. Regardless of whether "toxic masculinity" refers to a valid and important concept or not, it's an inherently unconstructive and inflammatory term. Both the term and the concept have been heavily criticized by some mental health experts, see here: https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-030-86320-3 https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-030-04384-1 https://www.wiley.com/en-sg/Perspectives+in+Male+Psychology:+An+Introduction-p-9781119685357 https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/17/opinion/apa…	/r/MensRights	04/10/22 02:19 PM
3	Incels are objectively right and I can't understand why so many anti-feminist people still fail for their propaganda. I don't know who most of those people are that you mention but if they were mentally ill and gained infamy by doing something bad, then by definition, they would be outliers among incels because most incels haven't done anything bad and we lack any data suggesting that most of them are clinically mentally ill. The argument for a degree of ridicule or shaming is that maybe it limits the allure of the ultra misogynistic and violent groups. Whether or not shame and ridicule works as a deterrent for…	/r/MensRights	30/09/22 06:05 PM
9	Incels are objectively right and I can't understand why so many anti-feminist people still fail for their propaganda. When incels say I can't find a partner because I am not attractive enough... Just because they think they're not attractive enough (not just physical appearance) doesn't mean they actually aren't attractive enough. I think it's more likely the case that many men are so demoralized from being denigrated throughout media and the broader culture (and women are conversely praised and encouraged) that their self-esteem has diminished to the point that they think they're completely undesirable to wome…	/r/MensRights	30/09/22 04:31 PM
4	I might have differences with this subreddit as a 16 year old girl but r/all today on Jordan Peterson saddens me This is generally correct. Jordan Peterson has a history of fixating on the hypothetical utility of religion which is fine and all, but he basically conflates that with the truth of religion which is a problem. His views tend to be a bit convoluted once you dig into the details a bit. I don't even think he knows himself what he believes is true because he uses metaphorical truth / utility and objective truth interchangeably so much. Philosophy can generally be broken down into the following: emp…	/r/MensRights	30/09/22 03:42 PM
40	Scrolled through r/MensLib and its disappointing. It's obvious why that's the only sub many feminists tell men to go to for discussions on men's issues. It's the only "feminist-approved" male space because it's feminist friendly and prioritizes feminist viewpoints over everything else (including men's issues). Other helpful subs for men like this one and r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates are constantly demonized because feminists don't have supervision over them and because they rightly criticize the role feminism has played in creating and perpetuating …	/r/MensRights	30/09/22 03:13 PM
2	Unpopular opinion. Toxic masculinity does exist but its not that simple Regardless of whether "toxic masculinity" refers to a valid and important concept or not, it's an inherently unconstructive and inflammatory term. Both the term and the concept have been heavily criticized by some mental health experts, see here: https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-030-86320-3 https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-030-04384-1 https://www.wiley.com/en-sg/Perspectives+in+Male+Psychology:+An+Introduction-p-9781119685357 https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/17/opinion/apa…	/r/MensRights	26/09/22 08:46 PM
45	On "Men are trash" At first I just dismissed it as a fun joke. But then I saw that leftist feminists are actually serious about the "men are trash" hill. Reasonable people often internally "sanewash" the more extreme language within their own ideological in-group. It goes something like this, "Surely they don't literally mean X, they probably just mean Y which I think I agree with.", where "Y" is a less extreme version of "X" (or it gets brushed off as a joke). Using extreme language is often a deliberate tactic b…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	20/09/22 09:09 PM
8	"Historical oppression" of women Men could vote. All the voting was done by men. There were some women who could vote. There was never any law that explicitly said "only men can vote". Voting was tied to owning property and there were some upper class women who owned property. Again, the primary variable was class, not gender. Framing this as men as a group having power over women as a group is inaccurate and simplistic given how the majority of both groups couldn't vote and only a very specific subset could.	/r/MensRights	13/09/22 10:07 PM
6	"Historical oppression" of women The oppression of one group doesn't negate the oppression of another. Why do people keep playing this card lmao. I think you're misunderstanding what people are saying and doing here. People are pointing out two main things. First, being able to vote was tied to selective service so not being able to vote wasn't necessarily an example of oppression when you consider how selective service is a gross violation of bodily autonomy. Second, if both men and women were unable to vote and you decide tha…	/r/MensRights	13/09/22 09:26 PM
6	"Historical oppression" of women The vast overwhelming majority of men also could not vote for the longest time. In the US, only white property owners could historically vote which was a very small portion of the population (mostly men, but some women too). Basically, only the upper class could vote and the upper class =/= men. The primary variable was class not gender. Voting also wasn’t common until a few decades before it became available to women and women achieved the right to vote without the same associated obligations t…	/r/MensRights	13/09/22 09:09 PM
10	Why are school shootings so common? It's a combination of many factors. There's a mental health epidemic in the US which definitely contributes towards the problem and fatherlessness seems common among school shooters. But the larger problem is simply access to firearms. Other countries have poor mental health, fatherlessness, and even the same toxic culture of demonizing men, but they don't have the same problems with school shootings. What sets the US apart from everywhere else is how easy it is to access firearms and how many t…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	13/09/22 07:46 PM
3	YouTuber: “Guys are gonna be creepy and it’s sad” You don’t want me to react adversely to something I don’t agree with? There's nothing to "agree" or "disagree" with. If you don't have ASMR, then you don't have ASMR. Some people simply don't have ASMR and some have a condition called misophonia (which it sounds like you might have). Its an extreme sensitivity to certain sounds like chewing and other mouth sounds that manifests as an outburst of irritation, anger, or aggression. For people who actually have ASMR, they experience a pleasant tingl…	/r/MensRights	08/09/22 08:24 PM
5	I need help. As other's have said, try showing him a actual video of a circumcision being done. This is often enough to shake someone to their senses. You should also make clear to the doctors beforehand of your intentions, maybe even put it in writing. Below is my usual response to this topic, you could try showing him this information. Circumcision is a barbaric practice passed down from our religious roots. Historically, the express purpose of this procedure was to reduce sensation/pleasure to disincentiv…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	03/09/22 05:19 PM
47	Study finds men are more empathetic than women “On average, males are more empathetic and thus more altruistic than females.” More specifically, men outperform women on empathetic control while women have more of an automatic empathy. Men discriminate more in targeting helping behavior and women are more indiscriminate. This even shows in children and is why men are more likely to help strangers. Especially in adulthood it seems that males vary more than females in some aspects of emotional processing and altruistic behavior, suggesting that even though it appears that males express less empathy, their higher discrimin…	/r/MensRights	01/09/22 08:56 PM
15	Why do men carry more responsibility regarding birth control? Why do men carry more responsibility regarding birth control? They shouldn't. This is a maladaptive holdover from our evolutionary roots where men are expected to provide for women and children. Malagency also likely plays a role. That is, humans naturally fixate on male agency and ignore/dismiss female agency. Men are generally viewed as having power, as the cause of everything right or wrong in any given situation, and women are generally viewed as lacking power. Men are the cause of circumsta…	/r/MensRights	31/08/22 08:09 PM
33	Causal Misandry: Seixsm against men is okay You're not in any position to gatekeep who "actual" feminists are. This is a no true scotsman fallacy aka an "appeal to purity" or "reverse cherry picking". You're trying to keep feminism "pure" in your mind by categorically excluding any problematic counterexamples.	/r/AntiFeminists	24/08/22 08:33 PM
5	Genuinely curious… I am a feminist. I believe men and women are equally worthy of respect. If you think that feminism just means that you believe in equality, then I'm sorry, but you're simply incorrect. Feminism is not synonymous with "gender equality" or "women's rights". This definition of feminism is used as a way to try and get people to adopt the label of "feminist" without thinking very hard. People who support equality are actually called "egalitarians" not feminists. Feminism is a complex ideology, a set …	/r/AntiFeminists	23/08/22 07:18 PM
2	what do you think of abortion? A newborn can’t fend for itself and can’t really do much at all. It is nothing but burdensome for at least a few years. Yes, it has less moral value than a grown human, but it still has more moral value than a fetus and it would be comparable to many other forms of life that we already care about. This logic also seems to imply that the disabled are of less moral value than the healthy. Yes, but not to any significant degree in the grand scheme of things. Disabled people, even mentally disabled,…	/r/AntiFeminists	17/08/22 04:27 PM
4	what do you think of abortion? Abortion is completely immoral and should be illegal in all cases... You haven't actually explained why you think abortion is immoral. I, like a great many other people in the developed world, see no problem with ending the existence of an organism that has no conscious experience, will to live, or pain receptors. In this sense, a fetus has less moral value than most other complex organisms on the planet. This is consistent with how humans have always valued other life. Theory of mind is an ingr…	/r/AntiFeminists	17/08/22 02:59 PM
1	what do you think of abortion? ...but if you didn't take steps at all and just expected not to get pregnant then that's their fault and they need to birth it and keep it or give it for adoption. It doesn't matter if someone was behaving recklessly and irresponsibly (in your view), this is not an excuse to strip someone of their basic human rights, we don't even do that for corpses. No living being has a right to use another's body against their will for survival. Bodily autonomy protects you from this and things like "fault" …	/r/AntiFeminists	17/08/22 02:35 PM
5	what do you think of abortion? I'm of the religious stance... We shouldn't be making laws informed by religious belief, full stop. Separation of church and state is a valuable ideal that should always be upheld, especially in cases dealing with human rights like abortion and bodily autonomy.	/r/AntiFeminists	16/08/22 09:05 PM
5	what do you think of abortion? I’m pro choice but in the sense that having sex is a choice. Pro-choice means you support a woman's right to choose whether or not to terminate a pregnancy. If you don't support this right, then you're not pro-choice. Don’t have sex if you don’t want a baby. Sex is not consent to pregnancy, this is a fallacy. Sex is consent to the risk of pregnancy that might result in a child. Not all acts of sex result in pregnancy and not all pregnancies result in children. And you can take this one step furt…	/r/AntiFeminists	16/08/22 08:58 PM
9	what do you think of abortion? Abortion should be legal. No living being has a right to use another's body against their will for survival. Bodily autonomy protects you from this and it's not contingent on whether a fetus is "alive", "a human", or "a person". Things like "fault" and "responsibility" are also irrelevant. Even you believed that someone was behaving in the most reckless, irresponsible way possible with lots of unprotected sex, that still isn't an excuse to strip them of their basic rights, we don't even do that …	/r/AntiFeminists	16/08/22 08:47 PM
-1	What do you think about abortion? Abortion should be legal. No living being has a right to use another's body against their will for survival. Bodily autonomy protects you from this and it's not contingent on whether a fetus is "alive", "a human", or "a person". Basic rights like bodily autonomy are, in principle, inviolate. We don't just strip people of their rights, we don't even do that for corpses. If someone wants to allow a fetus to use a woman's womb for 9 months against her will, then they are advocating that fetuses hav…	/r/AntiFeminists	08/08/22 08:05 PM
7	Circumcision Whatever nerve endings the foreskin had are lost. The only things that can regain some sensitivity are the glands and inner foreskin as far as I'm aware. I don't have research on hand other than what I provided in my previous comment here. If you want more information on foreskin restoration specifically, you can try r/foreskin_restoration as mentioned by the other commenter. Whatever sensitivity is lost and how much is regained will heavily depend on the individual person and their circumstance…	/r/MensRights	23/07/22 12:23 AM
22	Circumcision Nonsurgical foreskin restoration involves applying tension to the residual remaining skin left over from circumcision. When done consistently over time, this slowly causes the skin expand and grow into something resembling foreskin. It's the same concept behind ear gauging. This skin is not an actual foreskin and does not regrow all the nerve endings that were lost as part of the foreskin, but it can restore some of the natural gliding motion and partially reverse the keratinization of the gland…	/r/MensRights	23/07/22 12:06 AM
39	Circumcision Circumcising infants is a violation of bodily autonomy, full stop. This alone is reason enough not to do it. There's also no compelling medical benefits for non-therapeutic circumcision. We conclude that non-therapeutic circumcision performed on otherwise healthy infants or children has little or no high-quality medical evidence to support its overall benefit. Furthermore, there are a myriad of harmful consequences of male genital mutilation which are outlined in this very informative comment wi…	/r/MensRights	22/07/22 09:20 PM
1	Complaining about Feminism Many men's issues can be traced directly back to feminism. This is why many men's rights activists criticize feminism so much. You simply cannot talk about certain men's issues without acknowledging the role feminism has played in creating and perpetuating those issues. In order to effectively solve a problem, you need to first identify the source of that problem and it's often the case that the source of many men's issues traces back to feminism. Feminism is an ideology, a set of beliefs and as…	/r/MensRights	20/07/22 03:09 PM
3	this subreddit changed my entire perspective. thank you. If you're interested in learning more, you might want to check out the Red Pill documentary by Cassie Jaye for more information about men's rights. Here's her TEDx talk. She's a feminist who made a documentary about the men's rights movement and thought she would be exposing them as hateful misogynists. She learned through thoughtful introspection that she was the one who had bigoted views and ended up agreeing with many of the people she interviewed. The documentary goes through her journey lea…	/r/MensRights	16/07/22 07:29 PM
4	Why is this sub so hostile towards women I want to first point out that feminism is not synonymous with "gender equality" or "women's rights". This definition of feminism is used as a way to try and get people to adopt the label of "feminist" without thinking very hard. People who support equality are actually called "egalitarians" not feminists. Feminism is about the advocacy of women's interests often at the expense of other groups. If you want specifics on how feminism has directly affected men as a group negatively, here are a few.…	/r/MensRights	14/07/22 08:08 PM
4	Why is this sub so hostile towards women It sounds like you may be conflating feminists and women. Not all women are feminists and not all feminists are women. Conflating the two is a fallacy. Furthermore, you cannot talk about certain men's issues without acknowledging the role feminism has played in creating and perpetuating those issues. This is why many MRAs criticize feminism. Criticizing feminism is necessary if we want to achieve true gender equality.	/r/MensRights	14/07/22 05:58 PM
7	I somtimes get close to understanding feminism and then BOOM, i hear the phrase “toxic masculinity” The basic premise of toxic masculinity is that it presents masculinity (and by extension, men) as something problematic with flaws that needs to be "fixed". This is exactly the problem with the concept and why so many people take issue with it. From a psychology standpoint, this is not a healthy way to approach solving problems, encouraging healthy behavior, or having a healthy mindset. This is known as a "deficit approach" and is essentially victim blaming. Not only is the concept itself intell…	/r/AntiFeminists	05/07/22 09:13 PM
1	In light of recent events are you guys pro-life or pro-choice? And why? No living being has a right to use another's body against their will for survival. Bodily autonomy protects you from this and it's not contingent on whether a fetus is "alive", "a human", or "a person". Basic rights like bodily autonomy are, in principle, inviolate. We don't just strip people of their rights, we don't even do that for corpses. If someone wants to allow a fetus to use a woman's womb for 9 months against her will, they are advocating that fetuses have special rights that no living…	/r/AntiFeminists	28/06/22 06:25 PM
0	In light of recent events are you guys pro-life or pro-choice? And why? I've always been pro-choice and part of me still is but when I looked at the numbers I realized that this shit is way out of fucking control. With 930,000 abortions in 2020 98% of which were for lifestyle choice reasons, it made me realize that this needs to be rained in and that something needs to be done. Why? Everything you're saying seems to stem from the assumption that abortion is inherently bad in some way but many people in the developed world don't view abortion as an inherently bad thi…	/r/AntiFeminists	28/06/22 06:20 PM
16	Any more studies on female in-group bias? Here's a link to the actual study: http://rutgerssocialcognitionlab.weebly.com/uploads/1/3/9/7/13979590/rudmangoodwin2004jpsp.pdf	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	23/06/22 06:54 PM
5	As a woman, what can I do to be more supportive towards men? I'm unsure what to do at this point and how to be an ally without offending people. Its intimidated me quite a bit tbh so I'm hoping maybe I can get some insight on the right way to go about it? Is there anything that women generally don't understand? Honestly, educating yourself and participating in discussions to raise awareness of men's issues is all anyone can reasonably ask. If you're interested, here's a link to a comment that effectively debunks many common myths around issues that affect…	/r/MensRights	23/06/22 04:31 PM
10	As a woman, what can I do to be more supportive towards men? Toxic masculinity was explained to me as being a "pro men" movement. After I questioned what about toxic femininity, it was explained to me that toxic masculinity is the man up stigma and getting rid of it is actually working with men to remove this. Is it not used in this sense? The basic idea of toxic masculinity presents masculinity (and by extension, men) as something problematic with flaws that needs to be "fixed". This is exactly the problem with the concept and why so many people take iss…	/r/MensRights	23/06/22 03:44 PM
1	I guess caring ab body count as a man is rapey or rapist mentality. There's a lot wrong with this. ... and often features videos that glorify rape, violence, racism, objectification, stereotypes, etc. This is clearly not representative of porn. You can't just look at a handful of problematic examples and pretend that accurately represents an entire multi-billion dollar industry. ... and doesn't tend to highlight female pleasure. Yes it does? There many companies producing content with this explicit focus, there's genres that focus on this, and one of the primary…	/r/AntiFeminists	21/06/22 03:03 PM
26	According to r/Feminism women don’t commit domestic violence. It's not that they're claiming women don't commit domestic violence, it's that men oppressing women can be used as an explanation for all DV incidents regardless of whether the primary aggressor is male or female. In their minds, "patriarchy" is the root cause of all DV. This is how DV is defined within the Duluth model. In this bizarre worldview, women are driven to become abusers for reasons that stem from patriarchy. They are driven to live up to the masculine ideals enforced by patriarchy, o…	/r/MensRights	13/06/22 04:37 PM
2	Feminist myths and the facts that disprove them. Thanks, I'll update.	/r/MensRights	08/06/22 05:49 PM
46	Feminist myths and the facts that disprove them. I remember piecing together some of this a month ago in r/antifeminists in a similar myth-fact post but I will copy it again here for the record. Myth: Gender diversity on corporate boards significantly improves performance and productivity of businesses. Fact: Here's a meta-analysis of 20 studies covering 3,097 companies which concluded that “the overall mean weighted correlation between percentage of females on corporate boards and firm performance was small and non-significant." Here's anothe…	/r/MensRights	07/06/22 05:25 PM
66	look at this shite Leave it to feminists to always assume the worst in men based on virtually nothing. This trial has represented a positive cultural shift for male victims of female abuse being taken more seriously. This is a threat to the feminist narrative of female victimization and male perpetration. In light of the trial verdict, they can no longer reliably slander Johnny and praise Amber without looking like the sexist nutjobs they are. So of course, their last course of action is to disparage the people (m…	/r/AntiFeminists	02/06/22 04:30 PM
4	I'm doing a class presentation on men's rights Here's a comment I wrote a while back that debunks various feminist myths about domestic violence and rape. There's lots of sources linked in there. I think this format of myth-fact where you show a common myth and then show facts debunking that myth, is useful and understandable. You might want to consider using that format. Here's another comment I pieced together recently about men and boys falling behind in education. This is an often overlooked issue. When feminists are confronted with hard…	/r/MensRights	31/05/22 07:11 PM
41	Are feminists really using the Apex argument? Examples needed. An apex fallacy is just a sub-fallacy of selective attention. Feminists commit this fallacy any time they say something like "men have power". They are generalizing men as a group based on clear outliers within that group. They do this quite often. This thinking lies at the heart of feminist philosophy and can be seen clearly in patriarchy theory. This comment summarizes this quite well.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	20/05/22 04:49 PM
9	A feminists take on men's rights Honestly, whether or not a pregnancy is kept should be a decision left up to the person caring the fetus and their doctor. This has nothing to do with the actual concern I mentioned. The men's rights concern comes in when dealing with child support and legal responsibilities for a child that the man never wanted. If women have the ability to unilaterally choose to keep or terminate a pregnancy (as they should, bodily autonomy and all that), then men should have an ability to opt out of financial…	/r/MensRights	12/05/22 04:35 AM
5	A feminists take on men's rights I know I may get downgraded to hell but just felt like sharing my opinion and seeing what y'all think. Are you really expecting people to disagree with your points? I skimmed through your post, and personally, I don't see anything that I immediately strongly disagree with. I think your assumption that people here would disagree displays your ignorance about men's rights and our values. Unlike feminism, men's rights is egalitarian in practice. You seem like a reasonable person so you should proba…	/r/MensRights	12/05/22 04:19 AM
12	A feminists take on men's rights Are you genuinely ignorant of the harm feminism has done? Many men's issues are created and perpetuated by feminism. Feminists pushed for primary aggressor laws after mandatory arrest policies led to a skyrocketing of women being arrested for domestic violence. So they had to redefine DV as something that almost exclusively involves male perpetrators and female victims. Feminists created the Duluth model of domestic violence. This is the feminist model of DV that describes it as something that m…	/r/MensRights	12/05/22 03:56 AM
5	why aren't we taken seriously as abuse victims? I don’t know a single feminist that says men can’t be victims. Anecdotes are not evidence. Actual evidence clearly shows that feminism by and large wants to suppress and dismiss male victims and female perpetrators. The person you're responding to made a factual statement that feminists are trying to redefine victimhood to erase male victims and female perpetrators. Feminists created the Duluth model of domestic violence. This is the feminist model of DV that describes it as something that men d…	/r/MensRights	09/05/22 12:35 AM
19	why aren't we taken seriously as abuse victims? He's not "blaming women", he's blaming feminists. Not all women are feminists and not all feminists are women. Conflating the two is a fallacy. Furthermore, you cannot talk about how men aren't taken seriously as victims without acknowledging the role feminism has played in creating and perpetuating this problem. The overwhelming cultural messaging around abuse frames it as something that almost exclusively involves male perpetrators and female victims in spite of evidence to the contrary. And f…	/r/MensRights	08/05/22 07:50 PM
8	My girlfriend is trying to get me to get a vasectomy I feel like she’s pressuring me into something I don’t know if I want to do. Regardless of the circumstances, she shouldn't be pressuring you into something like this. It doesn't sound like she's taking "my body, my choice" very seriously. This is your body and your decision to make. Vasectomies are rarely reversable and you're quite young, if you're conflicted at all, then you probably shouldn't do it. She's a woman, and as a woman she has far more birth control options available to her many of…	/r/MensRights	03/05/22 08:52 PM
46	Feminists myths Myth: Murder, abuse, and rape are gendered issues perpetrated by men against women because of misogyny. I like this format but I think it's best to break this particular point down and expand on it more. I'll copy and paste some content from some of my pervious comments on this topic here. Myth: Domestic violence overwhelmingly involves male perpetrators and female victims. Men are more violent in relationships in general. Fact: Nearly half of all DV is reciprocal, and of the half that's not rec…	/r/AntiFeminists	26/04/22 02:50 PM
16	Feminist here, To all men of this subreddit, please explain. ...do you guys ever feel like women would take you more seriously if you didn’t use these issues as a rebuttle or a way to silence us? Please explain why you feel the need to compete with feminists. You are doing what many feminists do where they conflate feminism with women. Not all women are feminists and not all feminists are women. Feminism is a toxic dogmatic ideology, it's not a force for equality. It relies upon an inaccurate reframing of history and reframing of gender relations that pit…	/r/AntiFeminists	19/04/22 06:28 PM
5	to those who are anti-feminism, have you read feminist books and in depth essays about 'the need for feminism' If you were to look at a recent post on r/askfeminism there is a post asking how feminism benefits men that demonstrates feminism cares for both men and women What feminists say they support is not the same as what they do in practice. And when they do attempt to address what they consider "men's issues", they're only capable of seeing psychological issues. In the mind of many feminists, one of the biggest issues men face is "being told not to cry", they rarely ever acknowledge systemic bias in …	/r/MensRights	19/04/22 06:04 PM
3	Female on male violence There's this idea that men make up 99% of DV assaulters. But I question where this statistic comes from when numerous men are coming forward about their abuse. This stems from feminist messaging, not from any actual stats. As such, it's not based on any concrete scientific understanding. Below are some actual stats, and they show women are just as violent, if not more violent than men. Nearly half of all DV is reciprocal, and of the half that's not reciprocal, women are the aggressors over 70% o…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	18/04/22 07:53 PM
34	Do you believe women are more disrespectful to men than man are to women? I don't think generalizing is usually constructive. But modern society does tend to encourage different norms around respect based on gender. Men disrespecting women is highly discouraged and usually immediately called out when it happens. Women disrespecting men is either not acknowledged or outright encouraged by many people, it's often viewed as empowering.	/r/MensRights	14/04/22 05:32 PM
2	"It was my son". Husband of woman arrested for abortion in Texas decries her decision. Does anybody care what the father thinks? The right to life is something man-made so it can be disregarded altogether so by your very own definition of what a right is, the right to bodily autonomy can also be disregarded altogether but for some reason you make a completely arbitrary distinction between the two where the right to life can be disregarded and not the right to bodily autonomy. You misunderstand. I never said a "right to life" should be disregarded because its a man-made construct. A "right to life" doesn't actually exist i…	/r/MensRights	14/04/22 04:01 AM
-10	"It was my son". Husband of woman arrested for abortion in Texas decries her decision. Does anybody care what the father thinks? So murder is legal? Murder is a legal term that describes the unlawful killing of another person. Abortion is legal and therefore definitionally not murder.	/r/MensRights	14/04/22 12:18 AM
-4	"It was my son". Husband of woman arrested for abortion in Texas decries her decision. Does anybody care what the father thinks? So the right to “Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness”, that doesn’t exist? First of all, the Declaration of Independence isn't a legal document, and it doesn't have anywhere near the detail required to define what it says in legal terms. It's a document that explains the values of the Founders and their intentions. Secondly, the right to live is not the same as the guarantee of life. You have a right to live your life with minimal interference. The Founders made very clear that they mean…	/r/MensRights	13/04/22 10:09 PM
3	"It was my son". Husband of woman arrested for abortion in Texas decries her decision. Does anybody care what the father thinks? Killing or willingly and knowingly ending Life is bad regardless of what you define a baby as because life is life. You appear to be willfully misunderstanding what I've said. Abortion is an extension of the right of bodily autonomy. Whether or not we should allow safe and legal abortion is not contingent on whether a fetus is "alive", "a human", or "a person", this is irrelevant. And even if the moral consequences of getting an abortion are greater than not getting one, it should still be legal…	/r/MensRights	13/04/22 08:01 PM
-8	"It was my son". Husband of woman arrested for abortion in Texas decries her decision. Does anybody care what the father thinks? I fully believe babies have the right to be born as soon as life is created inside the womb. There's no such thing as a right to life. Rights are man-made social/legal constructs. We grant basic rights to people that help enable survival and personal autonomy, but the right to life itself isn't an actual right. Whatever decision making the parents had, they gave it up the moment they decided to get pregnant, and yes its a decision whether intentional or accidental. Sex is not consent to having a…	/r/MensRights	13/04/22 06:21 PM
10	“She’s not a feminist because feminism is about equality” - The comments What’s your problem with feminism? All variations of feminism share certain incorrect assumptions about the world. They have to have some similarities, otherwise there's no reason to call them all feminism. At their core, the foundations of every brand of feminism are based on an inaccurate reframing of history and reframing of gender relations that is positively detrimental towards progress on gender equality. This comment summarizes this quite well. Every branch of feminism assumes the above a…	/r/AntiFeminists	04/04/22 06:23 PM
32	Asking as a feminist: What is the ideal societal outcome with r/MensRights? Alot of feminists think the MRM is about anti feminism but in principle, it's not. Sure, but when talking about actual issues and how to solve them, you cannot ignore the role feminism has played in creating and perpetuating said issues. Even if some feminists don't agree with the actions of those who create and perpetuate these issues, feminist theory is still a problem. The problematic feminists are still using feminist ideas as justification for what they do. And lets be honest, things like p…	/r/MensRights	01/04/22 11:52 PM
124	Asking as a feminist: What is the ideal societal outcome with r/MensRights? ...the movement that has given her, as a woman, many rights historically... Many things feminism takes credit for are not actually the result of feminism. Women being able to vote for example was the result of campaigning from the suffragettes, not feminism. I also don't think there's sufficient reason to assume that whatever positive outcomes feminism has produced could have only been produced by feminism. Don't you think this is very unfair to say? No, I don't. I believe she was looking for in…	/r/MensRights	01/04/22 11:25 PM
241	Asking as a feminist: What is the ideal societal outcome with r/MensRights? Thanks for helping me dispel some of those prior and more harmful beliefs, I recognize the biases I’ve held about this sub. will keep looking into the issues mentioned to continue learning/educating myself I would recommend the Red Pill documentary by Cassie Jaye for more information. She's a feminist who made a documentary about the Men's Rights movement and thought she would be exposing them as hateful misogynists. She learned through thoughtful introspection that she was the one who had bigot…	/r/MensRights	01/04/22 09:31 PM
33	The experience that made me quit feminism What makes me very uncomfortable around online feminists circles are how they simultaneously praise men for showing emotions and weakness while simultaneously scolding them or treating them like child when they open on their issues. Women who claim to want this don't actually want men who are vulnerable and insecure. They just like the aesthetics of emotional men, they don't like or want the actual vulnerability part of it. They want men who will cry at sad movies with them and express how they …	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	21/03/22 03:41 PM
2	What is feminism? By the very definition, feminism is essential equal rights for women. Which by all means I think is fair, as long as it's equal for both sexes. This is a common definition that is thrown around in order to get people to think feminism is synonymous with women's rights, women's equality, and even equality in general, but that's just not true. In reality, feminism is an ideology, a set of beliefs about the way the world works and the way it should work. Feminism is in no way synonymous with women'…	/r/AntiFeminists	02/03/22 04:41 PM
11	A man is boycotted by women in his workplace because he wouldn't date one of them. Like other commenters in the main thread stated, this situation is sexual harassment with retaliation and a hostile work environment. All of this has been normalized in our culture as long as the victims are men and perpetrators are women. Feminist rhetoric and thinking has definitely contributed towards a culture that does not recognize women's abuse/harassment towards men.	/r/AntiFeminists	01/03/22 08:01 PM
139	Should men with children be allowed to escape Ukraine? Anyone, including men, should be able to flee Ukraine. Drafting people into war should be considered a violation of bodily autonomy. The state is forcing you to use your body for a specific purpose against your will. And this purpose will likely result in major physical danger and death. Similarly, the issue of abortion for women is considered an issue of bodily autonomy. The state should not be able to force a woman to carry a fetus to term against her will. Viewed in this way, the state should…	/r/MensRights	28/02/22 08:29 PM
6	Telling men "IF you didn't want kids, then don't have sex" is same as telling women "if you didnt want to be pregnant, then keep your legs closed" Real feminists want true equality and equal responsibility. That's a no true scotsman fallacy. There are plenty of feminists, moderate and otherwise, who genuinely think that men shouldn't have a say on the issue of consenting to parenthood. This seems to be the mainstream view.	/r/MensRights	28/02/22 07:03 PM
3	This is why I think feminist theory will never be an appropriate framework to study gender It's really simple, feminist theory sees the existence of a patriarchy as something unquestionable. Therefore, it tries to adapt any other phenomenon in society so it fits with the existence of patriarchy. This is something you also see with religion. People who are very devout tend to try and adapt everything they see around them into the framework of their religious belief. Most religions as well as certain ideologies like feminism provide people with unquestionable metanarratives about realit…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	14/02/22 04:07 PM
28	"When Times Are Good, the Gender Gap Grows." Article: "In their study involving 76 countries and 80,000 people, they found greater national wealth and gender equality are tied to bigger differences in preferences between men and women rather than to stronger similarities." Makes sense. When people are well off and free to live their lives the way they want, you end up seeing more gender stereotypical interests and behaviors with regard to life choices. Men generally pursue jobs/careers that are more technical with higher pay and women generally pursue jobs/careers that are more social with more of a work-life balance. Essentially, when you minimize the environmental and social factors that might influence people's behavior and life choices, their biological differ…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	04/02/22 12:47 AM
3	Are you guys religious? If so which one? For some it is. No its not. Atheism is a term that describes a lack of belief in a god. That's all it is. There is no requirement to actively believe in anything else. People who identify as atheist can believe all kinds of different things and none of those things are tied to their atheism.	/r/MensRights	27/10/21 03:09 PM
3	Are you guys religious? If so which one? I don't know if this describes you but from what I understand, many Jewish people, even some conservative rabbis, identify as "Jewish-Atheist". They don't actively believe in a god but they find meaning and importance in maintaining Jewish traditions.	/r/MensRights	27/10/21 03:01 PM
8	Men’s rights question I have heard many men say “men built the world”. This statement is referring to the obvious fact that men typically do all of the hard, dirty work that nobody else wants to do that is necessary for civilization to function. This doesn't mean that men literally built everything and by extension are in charge of civilization. I have heard many men say “women belong at home raising a family”. This statement is an opinion based on archaic, outdated gender roles that have some evolutionary basis that…	/r/MensRights	20/10/21 08:43 PM
43	I am a woman. I am autistic. I don't see how this sub is supposedly misogynistic or hateful. True but I would point out that misandry is built into feminist philosophy in the form of patriarchy theory, toxic masculinity, the Duluth model, etc. This isn't really comparable to MRAs who have no overarching academic philosophy guiding what they think and do. I should also point out that feminist philosophy teaches people how to interpret criticism of the philosophy in bad faith and as hatred. So from the perspective of an average feminist, they are perceiving far more hate than there actual…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	04/10/21 09:07 PM
121	I am a woman. I am autistic. I don't see how this sub is supposedly misogynistic or hateful. Calling a sub hateful or misogynistic is a way to keep people away from it. Feminists know they have the social and cultural influence to shape how people view different communities online. If they call something hateful or misogynistic, people will believe them without question. This sub, and others in the manosphere, criticize feminist philosophy, they are threats to the ideology. So calling it hateful and misogynistic delegitimizes and stigmatizes it. Its not about whether its true or not, na…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	04/10/21 08:15 PM
9	I don't know why it took this long, but I just realized that a fair amount of the left feels that sexism against men has the same urgency of racism against white people Critical theory philosophy frames everything in terms of power dynamics. "White people" and "men" are demographics that are perceived as privileged "oppressors". They are privileged because people think they live in societies that are somehow built to benefit them as a demographic whole at the expense of other demographic populations. Again, this philosophy frames everything in terms of different groups having power over other groups. This is why racism against whites and misandry are not taken …	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	29/09/21 04:14 PM
5	I think a law should be passed that allows men to not become fathers Men are not able to financially abort from a child's life in many developed countries, they do not have any reproductive rights. Some countries, like some of the Nordic ones I believe, actually do have laws on the books that allow a period of time (usually a few weeks after pregnancy) where men can financially abort from a child's life. This still leaves time for the woman to abort if she chooses. After a child is born, men should have the same ability women have to remove themselves financially…	/r/MensRights	29/09/21 03:43 PM
8	Is it really over after a failed “shit test”? A "shit test" is practically by definition cruel, manipulative, and just plain dishonest. I personally, as well as many people I know, avoid women who use shit tests purely out of principle. I simply cannot respect someone who would reduce the process of getting to know someone down to a few manipulative, psychological tests. If you want to get to know someone personally, then you need to actually do the hard work and communicate with them like a normal human being.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/07/21 05:44 PM
25	How many men in relationships view themselves as "beta?" Beta, alpha, omega or fucking theta.... All sounds pretty braindead to me Gross generalizations about a person's personality that don't really mean anything. Its just astrology for men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/21 04:30 PM
13	Being too obsessed with Theory is very dangerous and ineffective I think this has a lot to do with dating and relationship subs being dominated by women. Combine that with the fact that women generally having more options than men and you end up seeing the default response in comments being to break up and find someone better. Online dating and technology also plays a role. It has allowed many women to keep their options open and always feel like they have the ability to "date up". If an early 20s woman has four men on her phone, three are her age, one lives …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/21 08:49 PM
31	This shouldn't be an unpopular opinion. People care. Good on them for speaking up Its a shame that we, as a society, have been so conditioned to ignore the problems of men and largely treat them as disposable (in no small part thanks to feminism). We do not treat men as having inherent value like we treat women, men must earn their value with what they provide or produce. This disparity in value and empathy makes it psychologically easier for people to dismiss men's issues and ignore them as a demographic than it is to dismiss women's issues. We ignore their problems which ca…	/r/MensRights	02/07/21 02:54 AM
13	The “male” role in courtship is incredibly boring and frustrating. So essentially you'd pressure women socially to pursue men? Both men and women suffer due to social norms around dating and courtship. It would be beneficial to teach men to have higher standards and to not accept women who do not actively pursue them or who do not put forth effort in the relationship. It would also be beneficial to teach women to play a more active role in pursuing potential partners. This would allow women to find partners who are right for them in a reasonable amount of time.…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	28/06/21 11:42 PM
9	The “male” role in courtship is incredibly boring and frustrating. How would you rearrange society to achieve this? Changing attitudes towards courtship and dating is very much a social issue, "rearranging society" has nothing to do with this. And you change attitudes and norms through social pressure and awareness just like every other major social issue, whether it is gay marriage, women in the workforce, interracial relationships, etc. Just because something is ingrained in our lizard brains through evolution, it does not mean we cannot override it though ou…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	28/06/21 10:17 PM
20	The “male” role in courtship is incredibly boring and frustrating. I admit that in this case the reasons are rationally quite good, but apparently the inherited emotions are - after half a century of emancipation - still stronger. We have not had a half century of emancipation of male gender roles. Lets not pretend that feminism had any affect on the male side of things. If anything, it reinforced men's roles while emancipating women of theirs.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	28/06/21 04:26 PM
28	The “male” role in courtship is incredibly boring and frustrating. There is a huge biological reason it has to be this way and that is that one man can impregnate thousands of women in nine months whereas a woman can only be impregnated by one guy in nine months. That kind of evolutionary conditioning is hard-coded into our DNA and if ever we lost it we'd die out as a species. I don't think anyone is disagreeing with this being the primary reason behind men's active role in courtship and women's passive role. The issue is that there is no reason in a modern wor…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	28/06/21 02:41 PM
44	The implication that "if you're not a feminist, you're a misogynist" Feminists always conflate Feminism with women’s issues. From their perspective, anyone who is not a feminist or who criticizes Feminism does not support women’s issues and therefore is a misogynist. Feminism is an ideology, a set of beliefs and assumptions about the world and the way the world should work. These beliefs can be evaluated through science, reason, and basic human compassion and can be determined to be false or baseless. There is no ideology above criticism and you can absolutely su…	/r/MensRights	11/06/21 04:12 PM