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Nicole Ryan wasn't acquitted. In fact, the Supreme Court of Canada overturned her acquittal by the Appeals court, and said that her argument of "duress" didn't meet the requirements. They ordered a "stay of proceedings" so that she wouldn't face trial again. She wasn't found innocent or guilty, but she did go free with no criminal record. I have followed this case, as well as the comments Michael Ryan made on these blogs: here and here and found that his explanations are quite reasonable. If she…
/r/MensRights22/01/13 09:39 PM
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I came across this article today doing some research into recent court cases involving the deaths of children in Canada. While I found the general tone of the article to be almost apologetic about simply bringing up the subject of mothers killing their kids, these quotes at the end really bothered me: “If you imagine having taken your child’s life, and every birthday, every Christmas, you are coping with how old the child would have been. “Think of the horror and tragedy of it. That’s why it’s b…
/r/MensRights25/07/12 07:30 PM
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Female MensRights supporter checking in. I found this sub-reddit last year sometime, after seeing a crazy headline from the news on the frontpage, and trying to join in the conversation. I had my ass handed to me by kloo2yoo, and then started to do some research to try and prove him wrong. Turns out I was unaware of a lot of these issues, and my research turned me into an egalitarian and humanist, and a major supporter of mens rights. During this time, I also had a male friend go through a divor…
/r/MensRights27/04/12 02:50 PM
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Basically the same reason I joined. I also found that my humanistic comments got me a lot of flak in /r/TwoXChromosomes, but are better understood here.
/r/MensRights27/04/12 02:43 PM
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This is another insane story of a Canadian getting a light sentence for killing their children during a bitter divorce and custody battle. And of course, the blame always goes towards booze/drugs/depression. This should never be an excuse to kill one's children. If life sucks so badly, then give your kids to social services or a family member. The fact that the judge finds reasonable doubt because of the defendant's lack of memory? Oh gee whiz, how convenient! Everyone knows what happened to tho…
/r/MensRights20/04/12 05:34 PM
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Canadian juries have done things like this before. I'm not saying that BWS didn't come into play here. But we can't know for certain. The terrible thing is, justice isn't always a sure thing.
/r/MensRights26/10/11 07:39 PM
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This might be.
/r/MensRights26/10/11 07:38 PM
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I hope, truly hope that your mentioning of your "chastisement" by your father is in no way a judgement on what I experienced with my father. Just because yours was a good father who didn't intend on hurting you because he's a sick sick man who took pleasure in pain, doesn't mean mine wasn't. And my case is not isolated. There are many people and children who have gone through the same or worse than I have. And in no way were these situations simply corporal punishment to improve our moral fiber.…
/r/MensRights15/07/11 12:51 PM
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Where did I say I would mandate anything? All I ever said was that the idea was worth discussion. This is the attitude that I was mentioning in my original post. Sharing ideas and trying to come up with the best solution rather than just outright dismissing anything due to hyperbole and hysteria would solve more problems in this world. As for your time and age where state would never think to intervene in the home Was not a great time for abused children. As someone who was abused by my father, …
/r/MensRights15/07/11 12:22 PM
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"When the custodial rights of parents are questioned I assume someone's looking for trouble" --> well the whole point of social services and children's advocacy groups is to protect the most vulnerable of society. Abuse comes in many formats, and parents don't own their children and can't do whatever they want with them. If a child is truly in danger, and the parents are not doing anything about it, I would advocate removing the child from the situation.
/r/MensRights14/07/11 10:32 PM
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Of course doing some research into the matter on your own would always beneficial, but society tends to trust scientists and researchers in general because no one else has the time to do the legwork. Or, the science in question would be way above the lay-persons head ie: quantum physics. But the comments showed a deep distrust for any person of learning, quite out of hand. Some people would give reasons similar to this: educated people tend to be "elitists" who want to create a "nanny state" or …
/r/MensRights14/07/11 06:52 PM
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I read the article, and then the comments. I could not believe the amount of vitriol directed at terms people liked to put into quotation marks: "experts" "Harvard professors" "elitist" "nanny state" "socialism" In Canada, i've never experienced populist opinion so against facts coming from an educated source. The comments range from angry to batshit insane (obesity is caused by brain damage from vaccines). I'd like to make a bad joke about the fatties coming together in a united front to stop p…
/r/MensRights14/07/11 05:16 PM
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You are incapable of misogyny. But if you were capable of it, does that make you a misogynist? I guess I'm confused as to why you asked masturbanana the question at all. If he/she could be capable of misandry, is he/she a misandrist? I would say no. *A lot of comments on here are being downvoted, including yours and mine. Also, your answer included "see how simple that was?" and i'm not sure who you were directing that at. I stumbled onto your conversation with masturbanana and was honestly curi…
/r/MensRights28/06/11 07:33 PM
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Are you incapable of misogyny?
/r/MensRights28/06/11 07:17 PM
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I followed this link out of curiosity. Now that i've read quite a few stories listed in the index I have to admit I was appalled at the level of crazy in them. The women who were mentioned in the stories (especially the stalking 3 parter) are not normal. They have serious psychological issues, and should be at the very least labeled as abusive. I read these with a growing concern: are the type of situations described on this blog happening quite frequently? If so, then the simple explanation tha…
/r/MensRights23/02/11 07:45 PM
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Also, check out the comment thread under TheLegendOfKoizumi, you will see lots of stories of people being turned down flat by their doctors when asking for sterilization.
/r/MensRights22/01/11 01:40 AM
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Same story, my doc told me that both my husband and myself were too young for sterilization. At 29 and 30 years of age. What the eff?
/r/MensRights22/01/11 01:36 AM
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I asked my doctor about my husband wanting to get one, and I was all for it. The doctor told me that we're still to young and should wait. Just in case we change our minds. We're 29, and 30. I'm wondering if quite a few people do end up changing their minds?
/r/MensRights22/01/11 01:35 AM
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Yeah, I love that side effect of the pill, and I hear the IUD doesn't prevent periods. I'd love a permanent solution to the period, but I guess only a total hysterectomy would work. Science, why have you forsaken us!?
/r/MensRights22/01/11 01:33 AM
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I asked my husband if he would take a birth control pill for men, and he said that he doesn't want to pump his body full of hormones either. But he would try for the short term, if such a thing became available. Both of us are looking for a more permanent solution, but doctors are very leery with sterilization for people under 30. I don't understand - do a lot of people change their minds once they feel the cold hand of death start to caress the back of their necks?
/r/MensRights21/01/11 08:11 PM
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Thanks for the info!
/r/MensRights21/01/11 03:34 PM
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I'm not a member of either subreddit, but I would be glad if my husband got a vasectomy. Taking birth control pills for the rest of my life scares me, as I don't know what long term use of the hormones will do to my body. However, our family doctor won't agree to it. He is asking us to wait until we are in our mid thirties in case we change our minds and suddenly want children. My husband can't get it done unless he gets a referral, so we're stuck for the moment.
/r/MensRights21/01/11 01:09 PM
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That authors of that article went out of their way to assassinate the character of the estranged husband. Yes, they did also mention a few of the incidents the wife went through, but glossed over it with quotes about how great she is from her coworkers and family. Either way, a real pair of winners. Goes to show that outside of Reddit, karma is bullshit.
/r/MensRights19/01/11 04:27 PM
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You realize that he never mentioned his sexual abuse to his therapists for fear that they would tell others. I'm not saying therapy solves every problem, but it does help a lot of people. But good therapists can't work with half of the information. The sexual abuse came to define him, it was creating havoc in his every day life. If he couldn't talk about the single biggest issue in his life with anyone, regardless of therapist status, he's not going to get any help from anywhere.
/r/MensRights07/01/11 05:19 PM
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I'm incredibly saddened by the fact that he felt he couldn't confide any one about the abuse. That keeping the secret prevented him from allowing people to understand his emotional problems, and prevented him from perhaps gaining help from a competent mental health professional. He was the victim, and didn't even feel like he could come forward -- why should he have to feel shame? I got the impression that keeping the abuse a secret at all costs had the effect of defining his entire existence. M…
/r/MensRights07/01/11 01:38 PM
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Except he didn't trust that his abuse would stay secret, so he never talked about it with anyone. Not even the therapists that he did see. He never really did get help for his core issues, because he didn't want anyone to know. He shouldn't have had to feel shame for being a victim.
/r/MensRights07/01/11 01:31 PM
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Did anyone catch the show? I was stuck in traffic on the way home, but i'm hoping someone here saw it and can give a run down on what happened...
/r/MensRights06/11/10 02:15 PM
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A good start, especially since she has a ton of female viewers who could learn from this.
/r/MensRights05/11/10 07:16 PM
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Imagine if her complaint was that she consented to sex with a person who she thought was white, and later found out was part black. Could you imagine her argument in court that she reviles black people and it is against her moral code to let them touch her body? I can't, because it would be thrown out. I'm not sure why religious values regarding adultery, or "hurt feelings" about being lied to can actually make it to court, whereas an equally stupid reason as racism wouldn't get half way. Are we…
/r/MensRights01/10/10 06:22 PM
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After I read this article, I felt like this author had serious issues with control. I wonder if given background info on how this woman acted within the marriage and her daily life, she would be labeled as a control freak? It also seems she began to view her husband as property, and she had papers to prove ownership. This is a very scary viewpoint, she needs to speak with a mental health professional if she really feels this way.
/r/MensRights01/09/10 03:03 PM
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A 1994 paper from the IPT journal: http://www.ipt-forensics.com/journal/volume6/j6_2_4.htm
/r/MensRights01/09/10 12:42 PM
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I guess you didn't really want to have a serious discussion about mens rights. I opened the door for it with my very last paragraph: Men are hurting, without a doubt. People shouldn't do shitty things to each other, especially as a form of revenge in a relationship. That has to stop and women need to be a part of the solution. Now, a real discussion can begin. I would love for you to point out where it is that man bashing was happening in anything that I have written. Do you know what libel is?
/r/MensRights26/08/10 03:52 PM
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Haha, ok then. You have a great day!
/r/MensRights26/08/10 03:45 PM
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Ah, but I wasn't looking to "really stick it to some men for being sexist" when I replied to his comment. I was trying to do the same as you, get rid of those fallacious arguments in a rational discussion. I simply went about it differently than you would have. Do we have the same end goal? To promote a rational debate or discussion without having the conversation devolve into fallacious arguments, attacks, and insults? If so, then our entire conversation about this subject wouldn't be a good ex…
/r/MensRights26/08/10 03:00 PM
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Of course you would have handled it much differently! But neither is right or wrong. Why should I say nothing? He felt the need to comment, I used a different method to highlight what he was saying was an exaggeration. There is nothing wrong in doing that. It is just different from how you would have handled it. How would you know what I have set in my mind? You cannot be sure as to what is going on in my thoughts. I never thought or wrote that he was ignorant. I was highlighting the exaggeratio…
/r/MensRights26/08/10 02:50 PM
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His statement didn't open the door for rational argument. "women for the most part are monsters" is not a statement that will lead to any real learning. That is an opinion, and a sweeping generalization of women without proof. Would you accept a statement that said "men for the most part are monsters". I think not. I don't hate men. Nowhere in what I write could you infer that, if you were rational. I simply don't think exaggeration, blanket statements and generalizations are good fodder for an …
/r/MensRights26/08/10 02:35 PM
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Wow. Yes, why don't you ask the mods to look into our entire discussion to determine who is the real troll. He wrote "women are monsters for the most part." How would you want me to address that point? Is he really saying that monsters exist, and that they embody women? Isn't that extreme? Does he show proof? Do you? His statement was an exaggeration by the definition of the english language. You won't respond to my question about how you think his statement wasn't an exaggeration, I would like …
/r/MensRights26/08/10 02:17 PM
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No it is not. Can you explain to me how you do not find his statement to be an exaggeration? They're called fallacious arguments. And you shouldn't use them. Exactly! That was why I replied to his comment with a hyperbolic statement to show how ridiculous they are! That was why I did it! We don't need to argue this further, because I agree! So, why don't you direct your comments about fallacies on what he wrote? Is it because you agree with his sweeping generalization and therefore don't think i…
/r/MensRights26/08/10 01:36 PM
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The word "most" is an exaggeration in the context of his sentence. That is why I replied with a hyperbole. My comment stands. I wasn't glossing over what he was saying, I was pointing out how it was incorrect. And I was doing it by using the tools the english language gives me.
/r/MensRights26/08/10 01:25 PM
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Hyperbole and exaggeration are tools used in language, written and oral communication. They don't automatically build strawman arguments, or indicate someone is bipolar. My sentence wasn't meant to be taken literally. It was hypberbole in response to someone else's exaggerated statement. That isn't a strawman argument. I wasn't replying to the OP. I was replying to the person above who wrote that women "are monsters for the most part". He exaggerated, so I in turn used hyperbole to show how ridi…
/r/MensRights26/08/10 01:07 PM
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I'm not sure you know what bipolar means. How about hyperbole? I used it as a means of making a valid point. Nothing in that sentence indicates i'm bipolar. hyperbole [hahy-pur-buh-lee] –noun Rhetoric * obvious and intentional exaggeration. * an extravagant statement or figure of speech not intended to be taken literally
/r/MensRights26/08/10 12:35 PM
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How else do you describe someone who would want to take away a child's father? I would describe them as a very messed up human with a revenge complex. That doesn't mean every person with a vagina needs to be in a mental institution because they are hell bent on the destruction of the male gender.
/r/MensRights25/08/10 03:08 PM
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After being quite rude to me when I was simply offering my point of view that humans should not be abused by people in power, I don't think I'll continue this conversation with you. I'll offer one last bit of my opinion to this entire thread for those who are interested in having a conversation that doesn't devolve into insults: The real enemy can be argued that it is the U.S. government and the Taliban. I agree that the reason that the U.S. is in the war in the first place isn't for human right…
/r/MensRights30/07/10 02:08 PM
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My view is that using violence when necessary is not a bad thing. I don't consider the army going after the Taliban a bad thing. So it wouldn't be in the equation of two wrongs. Is that coherent enough for you, and does your arrogance turn a lot of people off?
/r/MensRights30/07/10 01:41 PM
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Let me get your argument straight: don't ever intervene because violence even in that instance is wrong. Is this your argument? That is a poor argument. If you could stop what the Nazi's and the Taliban and their ilk by sending them letters and giving them roses, then sure, I'd abhor any violence. But when it comes to extremism and the murder of innocents, then sometimes you must stop them by also being violent in return. This is real life. People should not be suffering, and we should do all th…
/r/MensRights30/07/10 01:29 PM
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How is letting the Taliban victimize women, children, and even men going to improve the situation for human rights? I'm talking about the human rights that everyone should enjoy regardless of religion and regardless of gender. Your argument makes no sense to me. No one should be treated the way the Taliban treats their own fellow citizens. Perhaps the article could have shown the male victims of stoning and other atrocities, but the author chose to show the female victims instead. My point is th…
/r/MensRights30/07/10 01:16 PM
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I don't understand. Two wrongs do not make a right. Obviously there should be national efforts to stamp out all domestic violence - against men, women, and children. Why downvote the fact that I'm pointing out that humans of both gender are dying for a fake war?? *edit for typo
/r/MensRights30/07/10 12:52 PM
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I agree with your assessment. However, that doesn't mean the Taliban wasn't a brutal regime that went to extremes to oppress women. But this is just one regime that does this. There needs to be another way to stop this kind of brutal treatment of women in all the areas of the world where it is happening. So, any ideas on that?
/r/MensRights30/07/10 12:48 PM
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What does that matter? Women who are serving in Iraq and Afghanistan are dying as well. The OP didn't see fit to even mention them. Just because there are less women serving, doesn't negate that they are dying.
/r/MensRights30/07/10 12:45 PM
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They are actually serving in combat situations in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Where are you getting your information? My point was that women are dying in the Middle East as well as men, but the OP felt only the men were important enough to point out.
/r/MensRights30/07/10 12:44 PM
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Since there are a few things wrong with this post, I'll just point out the part that isn't up for debate: I guess you're unaware that women have been serving in the military for decades now. I suggest you check out this pretty flash based website, it will keep you busy for while: http://www.army.mil/women/timeline.html *edited for clarity
/r/MensRights30/07/10 03:34 AM
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