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Good genuine women it does
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 01:56 AM
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No, their own money.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 06:53 PM
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Interestingly, the reason studies show single fathers fare better than single mothers (although the sample sizes arent great- there are very very few true single fathers compared to single mothers) is due to income. Once you control for that, theres no difference between the groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 05:53 PM
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How much of this is "single mothers" and not poverty? I know ALOT of single mothers. Less than 35% of men in the USA court system REGULARLY pay child support. This is reflected in the single mothers I know and none of them follow what you wrote. But they arent poor. Thats the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 05:42 PM
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Most men today arent positive role models anyway regardless of their relationship status. Plenty of married dads damaging their children now. Theres a reason "married single mom" is trending lately. The average American married man has a wife who works like him yet still is the traditional housewife. This definitely damages children seeing this dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 05:40 PM
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Thats not the case for single mothers who have good family support and earn good/decent money.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 05:38 PM
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In the Single Mothers By Choice subreddit, they save enough money to take a longer maternity leave, then work full time jobs (like most married women with kids do).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 05:32 PM
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There is a subreddit here for Single Moms by Choice. As long as you have support and the income (most people dont have these though...) its fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 05:31 PM
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Welcome to being a woman. If a woman has a bad first date with a guy who seemed perfectly fine on their OLD app and its messaging, she is told she needs to "pick better" Its ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 05:30 PM
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Men are much more likely to become complacent once they think their partner is attached. Its one of the leading causes of divorce according to marriage therapists. They put effort in the beginning then think she wont leave. I dont think most do this consciously either
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 04:16 PM
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This is why by 2050, 45% of women in their 20s and 30s will be purposefully single. There are so few men who actually want a partner and arent a net negative on their life, more women are realizing this so theyd rather be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 04:15 PM
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Its also terrible for raising children.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 03:52 PM
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Rejecting men because they dont earn enough to be financially stable (in combination with my income) for a future family is NOT shallow. It is imperative a woman does this. Women who dont look at this are unwise and are setting themselves up to be stressed out beyond measure if they procreate with this man and to have worse outcomes for their children. Children do MUCH better in financially stable households. Example: Where I live, you need a combined household income between two people of 150,0…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 03:48 PM
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This post is so pointless. Less than 10% of divorce cases involve alimony and the overwhelming majority of the time it is temporary. My SIL got divorced last year. She met her ex right after college and worked a low paying job for 2 years before marrying him and never working again (her ex makes insanely good money, 500k a year) She had 3 kids in short succession. She was married for 8 years when they divorced. She gets 4 years of alimony then she is cut off and the last 1 of those years she has…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 03:42 PM
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He probably has avoidant attachment. There are studies showing never married or in LTRs people in their 40s are much more likely to have avoidant attachment than the rest of the population. Avoidant attachment is a headache to deal with and they are the attachment type most resistant to change... so I likely wouldnt be interested. Ive met very very few people like this where it isnt obvious pretty quickly why they are single.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 03:37 PM
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I didnt say ALL women are good at evaluating, just that more of them versus men do it. I also dont believe they are GOOD at evaluating per say. (Autism specifically indicates a lack of social skills, so they are probably on average worse at this than a a nonautistic woman). Its just they are more likely to have criteria they look for that goes beyond "attractive" and "similar interests/hobbies." I also want to point out predators dont have their ways stamped on their forehead. This applies for a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 03:31 PM
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A subset of men dont care about personality. All they care about is the woman is attractive enough for him and they have things in common so the man doesnt have to adjust his life. Women are far less likely to be this simplistic. I use to work with people who have autism and many autistic men fall into this pattern. I dont think many of them are even capable of evaluating women on compatibility and personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 02:34 PM
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I live in a suburb right outside Washington DC and do not see couples like this unless she just popped out a baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 05:27 PM
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It wont matter if the guy has other positive traits. -Me, married to one, dated several. I did reject virgin men but it was because they were off emotionally or had weird views on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 02:14 PM
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Fake leftist? No shes not. I'm pretty liberal but she isnt fake (shes too liberal for me though)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 06:47 PM
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There are many studies actually showing the rates are lower. Its reiterated across sociology courses in my country. You can google it in google scholarly or type "Abstract" into a plain google search to bring up scientific articles. Sorry the stats trigger your feelings!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 06:18 PM
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I bet all the money in my bank account your threshold for "borderline obese girls" is very low and those women actually arent borderline obese, you're just too critical.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 06:03 PM
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Compatibility and chemistry (which isnt just looks, its a vibe and a general feeling). These are huge factors in relationships this forum really leaves out but shouldnt. A man can be more conventionally attractive, it does not mean I will feel better chemistry with him. He may also not be compatible with my personality, core values and disposition. Traits that are compatible with me that would make me choose a less "conventionally" attractive man -Type B or inbetween Type A and B (I cannot stand…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 05:45 PM
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Its not just based on money. A man making more money is not a sure fire way to prevent divorce. Alot of men that make more money have wives that work full time and yet are still the traditional housewife too. Yes, he may make more money but he has more free time and little responsibility/stress outside of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 05:34 PM
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Egalitarian Marriages Prove Happier Than Hierarchical Marriages Dennis J. Preato This has the majority of major studies done on the topic that describe it. They have a research summary and discussion of studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 05:31 PM
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Less resentment and stress is the top reason. Resentment is a slow relationship killer.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 05:26 PM
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Not surprising. Divorce rates are the lowest for egalitarian marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 02:34 PM
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For the same reasons men say they want a certain type of woman then their choices, which women they pursue heavily treating like a prize and the type of women they follow and closely look at online do not fit that "type."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 02:32 PM
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Im here out of boredom when my job has me "on call" for a very boring administrative task (everyone has to do it 4 days a month)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 07:09 PM
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This is also true for most women who have never had dating success in their 20's (guys you use you for attention and/or sex do not count). Obviously if you improved yourself thats not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 05:31 PM
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Based on all the studies I reviewed that found overwhelming majority of couples are looksmatched, most of the human population would agree with you. However, men who think he is more attractive will be the type of men to be on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 05:30 PM
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LOL I was actually going to write the same exact thing about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 05:28 PM
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Hes the typical male who overestimates his league. Men like him are RAMPANT online.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 05:28 PM
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Men are starting to experience what women have experienced for all of time: being ruthlessly judged/nitpicked/criticized based on your appearance and these things develop within 5 seconds of someone looking at you. I personally dont feel bad for men, welcome to being a woman!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 05:27 PM
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Most women fall somewhere on the demisexual spectrum thats why. Its not because "most men are ugly"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 05:26 PM
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Women are not as visual as men here, we dont hyperfocus on tiny little details the way men obsess over in women on a regular basis (alot of the men in this thread are bonkers in their nitpicking comments honestly). Alot of women are also somewhere on the demisexual spectrum, so this isnt surprising. It doesnt mean most men are actually unattractive. She just doesnt feel anything when she sees a picture of you because she needs to hear your voice, your body language, etc and your personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 05:25 PM
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Ive seen cry bullying from toxic females alot in social contexts not involving any sort of man/authority. I personally have experienced it from 2 ex female friends and have seen females do it in social circles. They are mean/short/rude/belitting to a person in a social circle for some time to the point where others notice it, then when the person bites back once they cannot handle it and run off crying saying "she is so mean." I see grown middle aged women doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 05:09 PM
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Statistically speaking, women on average are more empathetic, more emotionally intelligent, more emotionally open and supportive and are more sacrificial (putting others needs over their own). On an individual level, yes women can be hypocrites (I have had several female friends do this). On an individual level in the context of romantic relationships, more women show more of the traits in my first sentence than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 05:04 PM
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Most women show behaviors of checking out. Most of their partnered men dont notice I think usually due to self centeredness or complacency. Men on average are less emotionally intelligent so its not surprising alot of them dont really notice. However, men do this too, I think they just do it more in marriage because divorcing is harder than a normal breakup, also if there are kids or financial disparities between him and his wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 05:01 PM
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LOL I actually have done that, and absolutely did not get flooded with messages (not for the purposes you have described though)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:43 PM
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Decent chance of a response that leads to being used for sex (most women dont want this) Average dudes want casual sex (dont blame them, they always get an orgasm and are judged much less for doing it, no risk of pregnancy) and think the average woman views it the same. Most dont. Casual sex sucks for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:37 PM
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Im happily married. Im here out of boredom.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:26 PM
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I dont blame anybody, man or woman, who doesnt want to date. It just seems alot of men walk away because the dynamics dont consistently benefit them. Women seem to walk away more because the dynamics HARM them more. Theres a reason "single married mom" is trending online.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:25 PM
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Let them "take advantage" then of going through a string of meaningless unfilling relationships then. If they are being honest with themselves, they arent having fun and do it because they just cant be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:23 PM
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Yep, she could easily replace the guy with some other version of someone not good for her or compatible for her who doesnt even like her. Thats why Ive seen my desperate female friends change their values, personalities and opinions dramatically so much in such a short amount of time, because they cant easily find a suitable man. Theyd rather change themselves or be treated like crap all the time than be alone. Personally, Id rather be alone. Your attitude is insecure and desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:11 PM
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Men on PPD overestimate their worth while underestimating womens. Go look at the Looks dailythread, its full of men calling average women ugly and above average women "average." It explains alot. Then they overestimate themselves. So really, the below average men are the ones no one wants and who apparently likely dont avoid commitment. But they think they are average.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:09 PM
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Any girl who is able of pulling this off is not average and is in the top 15% of women: "For example, girls can go on Tinder or Instagram and bathe in free attention from various males, some even living in different countries, who might even buy them presents and ticket to their location, with promise of commitment (which might be genuine or not, but women believe it is)." More proof men are just like the women they describe on here, going for the top % ignoring normal women and crying about it.…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:06 PM
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I agree with this. I dont know if it is younger people in general commenting here, but alot of men reference girls online as their ideal and its crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:05 PM
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"modern women are exposed to insanely wider selection of men (thanks to Internet) and therefore what they "perceive" as best option - changes." Men on OLD apps do this *all the time*
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:04 PM
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Go to the Looks Dailythread here. Full of men calling above average women "average" and actually average looking women "ugly." Really explains all the crying "NO AVERAGE WOMAN WANTS MEEEE WAAAHHHH" posts here. Men: Im totally happy with an average looking girl, if she is a healthy BMI great. Just dont be fat Also men when viewing a photo of an average looking girl who likely is in a healthy BMI by her looks: Well, shes just average looking to maybe below average. She wouldnt entice me. *Insert a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 02:59 PM
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Yep, women only wanting the top 20% of men results in the overwhelming majority of couples in this world being evenly matched in looks and starting in the same socioeconomic status. Verified in hundreds of studies well done scientifically. Makes sense. Actually the gender I see that does what OP writes is more men than women. Men especially on here only focus on the 8, 9s and 10's maybe the 7s if they are desperate. They spend their 20's and sometimes even up to mid 30s chasing and obsessed with…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 02:54 PM
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Nope, most men dont like commitment actually. Men are the gatekeepers to commitment, both LTRs and marriage. A boyfriend? Sure. If she doesnt mind that boyfriend not being actually into her, not having anything in common or if she doesnt mind they are so incompatible she cannot act like herself. I have female friends that do what you write because they cannot be alone, 90% of their partners fall into one of these 3 categories. Finding a suitable beneficial relationship is not easy but alot of pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 02:51 PM
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Just because men bang everything moves doesnt mean hes actually attracted to her. Alot of men will gladly have sex with a woman who is not repulsive and is willing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 02:36 PM
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Dude, I have been a healthy BMI my *ENTIRE LIFE* and very average looking men have NITPICKED MY LOOKS. Average earning, average looking (some have even said Im TOO attractive for them) men. Men have very high beauty standards. Women do not have it easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 02:35 PM
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"I think it's just best to come to terms with the reality that women have a much easier time getting sex than men do. " Fixed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 02:34 PM
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"On social media, you often come across extremely unremarkable women who are mediocre or unattractive in looks, height, physique, personality, lifestyle" First off, I dont trust any man's opinion on what they consider "unattractive" or "average" ESPECIALLY in this subreddit (Go look at the Looks Dailythread here, men calling celebrities and way above average women "average looking" and the average chick ugly. It explains all the "average looking girls dont pay attention to me" crying posts. Y'al…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 02:32 PM
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"There is NO evidence that men get "more lazy and selfish" in bed." The number 1 complaint is "my husband use to go down on me or touch me before penetrative sex, now he doesnt. He kisses me for 30 seconds and tries to stick it in" So false. Most women cannot orgasm without this, 2/3rds of women do not orgasm from penetration alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 02:16 PM
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Nope. They are kind, smart and loyal and fun to talk to. They dont tolerate disrespect and inequality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 02:14 PM
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All the ones I know of except one the doctor wife still does most of the work for the house and kids outside of their job, and are beyond stressed. Theres actually an entire subreddit dedicated to female doctors married to male doctors for this reason alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 02:13 PM
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All the doctors I know have traditional housewives and they dont lift a finger outside of work hardly at all. Any woman not like this who ends up dating a doctor isnt going to last very long. He/she will always be more important than you and hold all the cards, doesnt matter what you're like.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 07:21 PM
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Yeah it is, I see men do it to women all the time. Im 36 and men start doing it in their 30s when they want to settle down and have an easy family life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 07:20 PM
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This is it. A good chunk of men dont meet very very basic requirements for a healthy relationship (Im not talking about looks). Since women dont need men for survival anymore, we dont have to pair with those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 06:01 PM
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He had a girlfriend he admitted once he treated bad even though she was too good for him, so you're pitying him too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 05:43 PM
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For me, its age 30. By then you should be settled in your job so you cant use that as an excuse of why you havent dated all throughout your 20's. Its was turn off for me because he likely is very behind in emotional and social skills needed for a relationship (not always though, there are exceptions) that I have already learned and if I get into a relationship with him, it will be hard and I will have to be his "training wheels." I already did that with men in my early to mid 20's and wanted som…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 05:39 PM
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Yep, thats because broke men expect you to do everything. How in the world is that helpful?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 04:48 PM
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No, not really. When they had threads, the moderators there consistently responded to threads where women posted goldigging tendencies, stating that they "they are in the wrong sub" and the goal is for "women to be able to take care of themselves, a man is a bonus" and women should "look for equality whether that means you are both high powered lawyers or boho fishermen living in an igloo in Alaska." Please stop spreading misinformation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 04:42 PM
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Men settling for and beta buxxing a woman for her social/reproductive/domestic benefits in a LTR (majority of men do this, they wouldnt be with their wife if they got what they wanted) doesnt mean they suddenly start pair bonding with her. The majority of men in marriages and LTR's wouldnt hesitate to be single with a harem or even more ideally, married with a harem.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 04:39 PM
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How would you know? People who have success dont come back. I bet you know ALOT of women happily partnered up that use their strategies and you dont know it. Partnering in your 20's leads to more divorce even later on. There are many studies showing marrying a partner (no matter what age you are) if you started dating at 25 or younger leads to divorce 4x more and rate their marriages as "harder." Its common sense really, people in their 20's tend to not be mature enough and make poorer choices. …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 04:26 PM
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The issue is that men want women to pay 50/50 financially yet still be the traditional housewife. Women are still held to higher emotional and social standards in relationships too compared to men. Studies show this again and again and men simply will not adapt and get defensive. It is *the* reason why they predict by 2050, 45% of women will be voluntarily single and childless. It is also a major contributor for why women leave marriages and why studies show single women outlive married women an…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 04:22 PM
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Several of my 35+ female friends used their strategies and are more happily married to their husbands than my friends who married in their 20s. Most of my friends who married in their 20s are downright miserable and deeply incompatible with their partners. Several of them are married to douchebags. Who would have thought maturing and not tolerating being disrespected leads to picking better quality partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 04:21 PM
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Every single woman I know who doesnt employ their strategies in my social circle is married to men who arent good and make them discontent/miserable, so I dont agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 04:20 PM
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Of course a redpill woman would say this. I'd say 75% of the advice is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 04:19 PM
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FDS doesnt push looking for a provider. I remember a thread about a girl in college saying she wanted a man to pay for everything so she wouldnt have to work. The top comment was by a moderator with thousands and thousands of upvotes reamed her out for it and said "this sub isnt for you." Another person who doesnt even get FDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 04:17 PM
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"The biggest issue I have with that sub is the overt body shaming of men who don't fit their romantic criteria (just like incels) . They shame short men , men with small penises, overweight men and men who aren't their type physically" Oh boy oh boy. You do realize most of the Internet does this with women and we are expected to just deal with it? Heck, r/askmen and r/askreddit even have threads filled with men saying rude awful things about women who have an unfortunate/less desired body shape …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 04:14 PM
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Most men today would rather have a rotation of women to screw, they dont really pair bond well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 04:13 PM
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90% of our current environment goes against how humans have acted throughout human history so your first point is irrelevant. Societies which were mostly tribes back then were very communal and didnt see relationships the way we see them today. They also didnt view children the way we see them today, I could write a book about that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 04:08 PM
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Women dont realize they lack the benefits until they get into them. Women are much more likely to continue being miserable for the sake of their kids. Women are socialized and conditioned starting at a young age to want marriage, thats the main reason they seek out relationships other than eventually wanting children. Anyways, they are predicting by 2050 that 45% of single women will be childless and single. alot of this is the increasing % of women realizing what I wrote and not wanting relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 04:06 PM
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Men in European countries do more outside of their job, so thats not surprising. I have several friends from that region who moved here and they describe American men as "lazy and entitled" Theyve had issues dating due to it. Women are expected to be a traditional housewife WHILE working full time in the USA studies consistently show men expect this, no wonder some women prefer men who earn more. Yes, 1/3rd is obviously not 2/3rds, but Im saying in the future over 50% of women will earn more. Wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 03:31 PM
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The most common sex complaint from married women is lack of foreplay (2/3rds of women dont orgasm from penetrative sex) so wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 03:22 PM
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You should have picked better.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 03:20 PM
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In hunter-gatherer situations throughout most of human history, women had sex with multiple different men from her tribe during her ovulation period. Thats why sperm have evolved to have motility because most sperm were competing with other men's sperm. Also, the woman often did not really know who the father was if she got pregnant and nobody cared. They always raised kids together as a village anyway. -My anthropology degree
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 03:19 PM
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Nope, I posted my photos on the various r/rateme forums here when I was single and consistently got ratings between 6-7.5. And virtually none of the (very very average) dudes I met using OLD apps wanted to be in a relationship in a week. Most were the opposite in fact. Ive never dated a Chad in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 03:17 PM
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Pointless terribly unsatisfying sex. 90% of women dont even have an orgasm during casual sex. What is the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 03:16 PM
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Studies show men prioritize looks heavily compared to women, even in marriage knowing it goes away. Also a third of women are breadwinners in their relationships in the USA and that number is expected to increase. Also, the overwhelming majority of couples in this world are in the same socioeconomic status, so this idea that women only date up in money is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 02:44 PM
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Thats because relationships benefit men overall. If relationships actually benefitted women in the same way they would be less likely to leave. Also, in relationships that really suck men stay out of convenience for the benefits he does get, its not out of love and he usually treats her like crap. So hes just more willing to be miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 02:42 PM
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Yup, men are 7x more likely to cheat on a chronically ill partner, 6x more likely to leave. Men are also 3x more likely to leave an infertile partner than the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 02:40 PM
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Im married but even when single I work on my looks for health and pretty privilege. I get treated better the better I look by everyone, not just men interested in me romantically. There are alot of studies done on this. For instance, for 2 years I worked at a nursing home that had rich people living there and I got treated better automatically by many people there despite not being more qualified. I think the only time it backfires on me is when I am friends with women. Ive had issues with less …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 02:24 PM
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I dont think *most* men are intimidated by a successful woman (smaller percentage are) but its more they want a traditional woman, potentially one where they can more easily control her, that serves him and lets him be head hancho. They know a successful woman is extremely unlikely to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 02:21 PM
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Im happily married. Unlike many of my female friends who tolerate things Id never tolerate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 07:33 PM
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Virtually none of my female friends expect their partners to give up their hobbies. Your sample is biased. I have 1 friend who does but TBH, she is a walking red flag with this (the first time I met her I found her controlling and rude) and her husband isnt intelligent if he didnt anticipate it happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 06:15 PM
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Yeah this OP is a classic avoidant.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 06:14 PM
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Theres so many things wrong with this, I dont even know where to begin. If you see sex not as an emotional connection, dont marry a woman who sees it that way and force her into an open marriage. People should marry those with similar sexual values to them. My husband and I are both the type that dont like casual sex and would have trouble having sex with someone for sport. Also, over 50% of married men who cheat have regular sex with their wife according to studies. And these men rate their sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 06:12 PM
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Except there are threads there frequently pertaining to dating and viewing and interacting with the opposite sex. So much so people write saying they wish they wouldnt even be allowed at all. So false. Just because I dont agree with you, doesnt mean I argue in bad faith. Men outnumber women everywhere on the Internet pretty much, that explains why selfish and shallow male comments get more upvotes than the reverse. They upvote anything that benefits them. Most of Reddit is male dominated.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 05:52 PM
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No they dont. You have massive confirmation bias. Go to any male subreddit on here and they are NOT masively downvoted. In fact in any of the r/askmen type subreddits they are upvoted greatly. This happens even in r/askreddit and most of the dating subreddits too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 05:39 PM
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I'm 36 and every single one of my female friends ages 36-41 who wanted to get pregnant got pregnant no problem. Then they say derogatory things to my 25yearold friend with a medical condition where she has to do IVF, dismissing her concerns because they are "old" and got pregnant easily so they assume her concerns arent valid. Seems the male rhetoric on fertility is not correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 05:37 PM
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Nope, men here say casual sex men make fine husbands they turn off that desire for variety and novelty once they settle down and find the right woman, so the same applies to women who like casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 05:35 PM
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I see constantly online men wanting a working wife who does all of the housework and childcare, and overweight men wanting a thin fit woman. And its justified by other people because "men and women are different." These comments absolutely do not get removed at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 05:30 PM
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I followed them alot and I dont recall seeing that sentiment there often. The reversed gender scenario of that is everywhere on the Internet and people dont care either/care much.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 05:18 PM
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I also followed FDS and it worked out really well for me. My female friends who wouldnt/ dont employ their tactics are married to men who treat them like crap and/or are a burden.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 05:17 PM
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Just like most men have to learn the hottest best sex partner isnt going to be the best LTR partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 05:11 PM
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Mature women know this doesnt exist and thats a trope used to sell media. It doesnt exist in real life. You cannot reform a player. He has character flaws.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 04:29 PM
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"A guy who’s kind to them but more importantly a guy who’s well-groomed, dresses well and is in good physical shape (muscular with six-pack abs)" Women are more likely to give a guy a chance who meets their personality criteria but not looks. Men rarely do that. Thus, lots of studies show in pie charts of traits needed for a LTR, much more of men's pies (a very decent chunk) are for looks compared to women "someone with relatively high social status (just as high or higher than theirs)" This is …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 03:52 PM
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Not really, the majority of couples in this world are matched with looks, so women arent any pickier.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 03:43 PM
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Yep, most men take advantage of good girls even if she is hot. I pay attention to what they do, not say. They say they want good girls but the ones they chase, prize and pursue the best arent good girls. And if they end up with a good girl, over time she is taken for granted.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 03:42 PM
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Women are less likely to benefit from marriage, so they are less likely to beta bux a good man she isnt attracted to just to get benefits. This isnt the case for men. (Studies show married men are happier than single men yet the reverse for women).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 03:40 PM
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Dying at your last sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 03:39 PM
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For the same reasons "good women" arent men's first choice. Someone being "good" doesnt matter if you arent attracted to them, cant vibe with them, have nothing in common and/or arent overall compatible with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 03:38 PM
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Internet men arent real life men fortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 03:04 PM
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It is true! When I was 25 and had been using dating apps for a bit and not having good luck, my aunt told me "You are too mature for men your age, you need to date older." I thought why not and reset my age filters. I did date some men who were 35 or close to it and they were too bitter, jaded and punished me for past poor dating choices they made. So I actually stopped going older. I should note I was financially stable enough at 25 and didnt care about money (the only good thing sometimes abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 03:03 PM
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Maybe its because Ive always been middle class (grew up lower middle class and am now more upper middle class) but having a selfish disposition, not having any kind of critical emotional intelligence (these people genuinely just pick bad partners and often dont realize it until theyve matured later) and having attachment style issues (alot of times from childhood) leads to bad relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 10:10 PM
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The second were attracted to you, your disposition just enhanced it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 10:08 PM
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This. Character has to do with treatment, not looks. My ugliest exes treated me the worst. Even the ones who admitted out loud they thought I was too hot for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 10:07 PM
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"it’s still the case that men catch a lot of flak for expressing those views." Where? Most subreddits on Reddit have more men than women and thus, most are more accepting of men's opinions. Heck, even r/askreddit is like this!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 10:06 PM
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Yes, but y'all seem to think women do it mostly. Every human has to deal with thoughts their partner might be settling for them. Heck, I know anti social introverted not attractive men who have admitted to me that they did indeed settle for a woman simply because he feels he cannot meet anyone else. Its a risk for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 09:16 PM
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My bisexual male friends said women were easier to talk to and set up dates with and easier to figure out if there was interest. Women tend to be more emotionally expressive on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 08:16 PM
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Everything you write applies to men as well. They do the same exact thing with women. I am a married woman in my 30's with a child and I have seen SO many men do what you write with their wives. They beta bux her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 08:16 PM
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Everything I said applies to dating though...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 08:04 PM
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I lived in New York City for 4 years and went to school there. I was friends with tons of gay men and bisexual men. (I didnt seek them out, they came to me...) All my bisexual male friends said dating women was easier and relationships with them made their lives easier while relationships with fellow men made their lives harder. When I asked them to elaborate they said women are more compassionate, easier to talk to, easier to not hide negative feelings around if they are having a bad day, more …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 07:53 PM
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Getting it out of your system is a myth. Men who crave variety dont just stop one day. Their habits come back when the relationship gets boring. Studies show men who participate in high amounts of casual sex score higher in these personality traits/areas: hedonism, superficiality, egoism, tendency to get bored and impulsivity. These things dont magically go away once you "settle down." Women on average score higher in empathy, compassion and emotional intelligence so sounds like you just picked …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 07:48 PM
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Open marriages have a higher divorce rate than closed ones. Some relationships do last. Over 50percent of first marriages do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 05:16 AM
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A leopard doesnt change his spots. No guy with your history will suddenly be cool long term sexually with one woman. Youll cheat on her before you die
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 05:15 AM
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Most men are so much work I can't imagine being with TWO or more of them. Absolutely blows my mind. I'm absolutely mind boggled even more if you are living with a man and having a boyfriend on the side. Those women must clone themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 11:12 PM
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Yeah, studies show the majority of open relationships don't last.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 11:10 PM
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Sounds like you beta buxxed her. Feel bad for her. Leopards don't change their spots.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 11:08 PM
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Yikes feel bad for your wife!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 11:07 PM
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"Gorgeous" and "great things in life" are subjective. I'm sure we don't match in our definitions of these
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 02:03 AM
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I always made Valentines Day more special for my exes than vice versa, except one year which is less than 10% of all my Valentines. Guys aren't romantic anymore 🤷🤷🤷 they're low effort
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 01:44 AM
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Most of the average looking and not rich men on OLD suck. Never went for Chads. Always went for average income average looks with few exceptions afterall im average. OLD attracts socially and emotionally maladjusted people. People who are too damaged, entitled and/or avoidant to date healthfully. Most average men on there can't hold a conversation showing genuine interest in a woman. So many not great first dates because they just aren't normal. Finding a normal guy was tough. Let alone one I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 12:08 AM
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You know some people just have strong morals and values...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 01:35 AM
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I did in my early and mid 20s. At my pap smear appointments they had to use pediatric speculums on me 😩
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 01:33 AM
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For the same reasons overweight men try to date fit women. They are attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 01:31 AM
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You have to relearn with every woman anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 03:01 AM
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Agree with this take. Married a male virgin but he chose to be one.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 03:00 AM
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Agrees. I wish there was a male version. Men cause more drama and are more demanding in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 11:33 PM
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That's just your experience. I have way more varied conversations with educated people than my friends from highschool who didn't do anything with themselves. It's one of the reasons I distanced myself from them more.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 02:39 PM
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That's because men don't typically take a career hit as they don't get pregnant, birth babies and are primarily responsible for their care up until they enter kindergarten.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 06:22 PM
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Most people who are smart hide their negative traits early on. It's been studied and it's why probation periods exist for new hires. Every person I know IRL who says this eventually has a bait and switch person enter their life that they didn't filter out right.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 08:37 PM
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You said "pay 100% and not hold it against me" very few will do that. There are not enough of those to go around to all women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 05:21 AM
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Me too. That's how we do it. We run big purchases by each other
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 05:12 AM
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You got lucky
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 05:11 AM
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I don't find this analogy helpful. All the men I've gotten to know IRL in successful relationships from an OLD apps sent the girl an actual message. Also, anytime I've job hunted I've gotten much better results curtailing my resume to the job applied for 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 07:39 PM
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😆😆😆😆 I love this comment
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 07:08 PM
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You should speak that last sentence like a gospel around here 😆 because that's what most actually want.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:47 AM
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I focused on women because you said when you dated women that's what you found. Most men I dated in my late 20s weren't as bad as you write and they were pretty average men. I'm curious where you live and if you only use apps to meet people?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 11:06 PM
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Man you have a terrible social circle by your description of females. I've lived a very social life and the majority of late 20s women I've known don't fit your description. You have a poor woman picker and sound damaged AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 10:44 PM
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I know, I meant it light heartedly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 10:25 PM
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I did read it. Women don't get away with doing what men do in your comment and say "it's a cycle of life" 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 10:23 PM
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Problem with what you said is, you don't apply that thinking to your own gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 10:19 PM
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Women who don't have spouses who pay for everything do this all the time. Most couples are dual income. Most men won't do the tasks you list and also invalidate the inequality
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 10:18 PM
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Decent women care about men's feelings. What they don't like is the lack of reciprocation from this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 10:17 PM
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Women being uncomfortable with their gender being used and exploited isn't bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 10:13 PM
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Yep, let's list behaviors that harmed men accepted in the past and see if they use that line to support it 😆 y'all are so self serving
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 10:10 PM
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Everyone in my social circle would rip apart a 30yearold dating a 21yearold. Terrible example.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 10:08 PM
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I lived with two overweight facially unattractive women for 2 years, we all did OLD and they showed me with no inhibition their profiles and inboxes. They got virtually no likes, messages or matches and gave up. They had 2 dates over the span of 2 years and they didn't go anywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 10:04 PM
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Correction: ***way above average women get 19 matches in your scenario
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 10:00 PM
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The fact that you just literally swiped right on everyone is why women getting a lot of matches means nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 09:18 PM
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Be careful. I said this stuff for a year then met my wonderful husband
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 09:15 PM
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It's only not shallow when men here say that. If a woman says only 20% of men aren't generic enough to warrant an immediate dating shot she gets ripped to shreds.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 09:10 PM
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Most men do not truly like more than that. They may like more to pass the time or casual sex though
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 09:09 PM
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Not single now but used dating apps for almost a decade. Over 90% of men matching, liking or messaging you fit one of these 1) they didn't look at your profile and maybe not even your pictures too much, they are desperate for anyone or just trying to get whatever they can 2) they have no interest in you as a person 3) they are just looking for casual sex, how honest he will be about that will vary. Never been into that 4) he's not compatible with you and if you somehow end up dating him, you wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 09:02 PM
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This. Conservative men would hate me anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 06:15 PM
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Evolutionarily women who shared a man with other mothers was more at risk of becoming destitute or ostracized 🤷 Men like to ignore this. Also in communal societies no one cared a woman wasn't sure who her child's father was because she had sex with 3 different men while ovulating. Because everyone raised everyone else's children 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 03:53 AM
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Social conditioning
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 03:20 AM
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The majority of men here don't accept the female nature
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 02:37 PM
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Most people end up with someone in their league of looks though
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 10:35 PM
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Except men don't accept women's nature. You clearly don't read much here
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 09:53 PM
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I don't find any of what you said true on my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 09:04 PM
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Ironically all 3 of your points apply to women. So much for male versus female nature. If a guy isn't attracted to you within 15 seconds doubtful he will ever be. Your time is better spent working on yourself as a woman rather than chasing men if you aren't getting anywhere. Men, including red pillers, break their own rules for certain women. I've seen that one alot.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 03:27 AM
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By being used for casual sex sure
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 12:45 AM
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Every woman has to do this now to stay relevant due to men's beauty standards. She isn't special. I spend alot of time on my hair, skin and figure and not nails. Men care alot about the first 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 12:44 AM
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Thank the lord there's someone reasonable here
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 12:43 AM
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And you wonder why women choose to be single
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 11:57 PM
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Character and resiliency has nothing to do with looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 05:33 AM
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Actually both porn and social media are bad for your brain, they are similar. I think both are bad unless used seldomly and studies support this. The brain is malleable. Alot of men online do alot of mental gymnastics complaining about women's social media usage but are defensive about their porn habits
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 05:30 AM
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No they aren't. They settle and wish deep down they could have both variety and a stable wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 05:28 AM
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Some people are against it actually or argue if it exists it should be healthy food.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 05:27 AM
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It's because modern married women bear the brunt of work, effort or stress. Hence why egalitarian marriages have the lowest divorce rates statistically. However those marriages are more rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 05:07 AM
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Love goggles or their behavior is different during the NRE phase
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 05:05 AM
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😆😆😆😆
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 01:19 AM
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I know several IRL rarely ever in the reverse
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 01:19 AM
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Yup. Thought Easi Morales was hot until I found out his views on vaccines.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 01:18 AM
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I'm not sure about that. I haven't found 100% of the time that looks alone dictates character.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 12:43 AM
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I've never discounted women like that exist. I've met them and unfortunately been friends with them. I feel the % of them existing is exaggerated on here. They also tend to show signs and men ignore it (I know I did when I was young and befriended them...)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 11:50 PM
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Women arent allowed to have preferences. We get shamed for having any but men are encouraged to have them ("dont be fat" "have big boobs and big butt but flat stomach") When we admit we have any we are told we are horrible, that it explains our bad experiences and we should "choose better" plus "give more men a chance."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 09:46 PM
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Nope higher percentage of women not doing so. Over half of women will be single in 2030
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:28 PM
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Most couples in this world are evenly matched in looks and socioeconomic status so your painted picture ofcthe dating landscape isn't correct and you're projecting your own personal issues onto everyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 04:19 PM
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Casual dating and LTRs, especially marriage, don't benefit women. Studies show this. In fact getting married with kids shortens a womans lifespan. You sound bitter we've figured it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 04:17 PM
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Yup the same way men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 04:59 AM
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Men are naturally much physically stronger without trying so it's never gonna be equal. In the same fashion childbirth will never be equal between sexes. You get extra responsibility because you're physically stronger, the same way women get more responsibility for pregnancy/child birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 04:57 AM
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That is exactly what women are doing hence the male loneliness epidemic
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 07:57 PM
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I'm not naiive. My experience shows I'm true
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 07:14 PM
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Oh my sweet summer child how naiive you are
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 07:07 PM
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Romantic relationships benefit men, not women, especially marriage. That's why more women opt out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 07:02 PM
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"HEALTHY sex life" most men in LTRs don't want to bother with women's pleasure long term. They want a healthy sex life for themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 07:01 PM
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Relationships benefit men more that's why. Women bear the brunt
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 07:00 PM
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The studies about women finding the average man unattractive are not true, so yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 04:10 PM
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Show pictures and videos of the people separately and asked to rate them by thousands and thousands of strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 03:44 PM
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Women never men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 06:15 AM
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Most couples in this world are evenly matched in looks. Verified in nany scientific studies. Most women do give "decent looking " men a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 06:14 AM
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No orgasm isn't fulfilling a basic biological need
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 04:00 AM
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I'd never want to date a man that rich. It creates a power imbalance that benefits him and it will come out in their behaviors. I prefer a middle class guy (like me) also I prefer men with my sexual values.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 07:58 PM
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High value men don't mind waiting if they know the girl likes him. If he won't he isn't high value
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 06:49 PM
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Most men don't know this but women sexually peak in their 30s and 40s while men do in their 20s. The few women I know in these relationships tell me men their age can't keep up
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 05:16 PM
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I wasn't paying attention to your credit card example. Pointing out the irony men don't like it when women take their advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 04:19 AM
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It's not easy for many people to just up and move. That's a privileged take. Though I agree full heartedly with your last sentence. Just look at the Looks Dailythread here, majority of men focus on top 25% of women and ignore the rest (like they accuse women of doing 🙄)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 04:18 AM
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I'd say the majority here greatly overestimate themselves and are too harsh on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 11:59 PM
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Men in NYC do this. Due to the overabundance of women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 11:55 PM
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Nope. Haven't you read all the "choose better" replies to any complaint a woman has here? We listen
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 11:42 PM
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I have a huuuuuge extended family. Every single one of my overweight unemployed and unpleasant personality male cousins and second cousins have had multiple girlfriends. You are incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 11:41 PM
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Go visit the Looks Dailythread here. Tons of nonfat women called ugly or not acceptable. Also search for posts about Pearl Buck and her being called ugly relentlessly. I'd stop assuming your personal views are the "majority of men."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 11:37 PM
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Not being fat is one of many things women must do to be considered hot enough. I'm not talking about casual sex. Some men will hump a bag of flour
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 11:03 PM
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I mean more compatibility with character and personality
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 09:31 PM
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No I don't 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 09:25 PM
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These behaviors are more common in men and men are given way more leniency with them than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 06:34 PM
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Nope. Only above average women have that option. Like the top 25% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 06:25 PM
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Welcome to being a woman. It's not fun, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 06:21 PM
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The majority of couples in this world are evenly paired in looks. Verified repeatedly in scientific studies kind of blows your theory out of the water.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 02:57 PM
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Plenty of women like sex with a specific type of man compatible with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 08:56 PM
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👏👏👏
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 08:54 PM
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All the ones I've met IRL are by choice. Tbh most men could not be virgins if they accepted a woman at their level. I see unattractive and socially unpleasant people paired together all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 08:15 PM
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Nope not it. They are just more open to feedback and not selfish and already molded. It has to do with personality not a scarcity and desperation mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 08:01 PM
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I married a virgin (didn't know in the beginning, i thought he was inexperienced though) he is 🔥 in bed. And I rejected manwhores in the past. Unpopular opinion but I find inexperienced men are more likely to be good in bed. Manwhores are less open to feedback and use women as masterbatory tools during sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 06:08 PM
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Not true. Whether or not someone enjoys sex doesn't have to do with being used. It doesn't negate it. The user person is still lying
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 05:43 PM
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Why do men expected to be treated special when there's nothing special about them and their standards are ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 05:24 PM
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I never slept with a man quickly yet usually had a higher sex drive in LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 05:22 PM
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Men who are 3s calling 7s a 4 and whining they cant get their version of a 7 are definitely the problem 🤷🤷🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 02:29 PM
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Waaaaaaay more than one man says that, how delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 09:27 PM
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Uhhh read a couple posts? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 09:26 PM
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Anytime a man leaves a woman the go to is she should have chosen better
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 09:26 PM
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That's because they aren't logical. They argue for whatever benefits them the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 09:24 PM
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Except men everyday on here do what you just wrote 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 09:24 PM
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Because what they see as a 4 is actually a 7. Go to the looks Dailythread and see how harsh men are with their ratings. Explains alot.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 09:00 PM
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Yep, men do the same thing they accuse women of, they focus on the top % of women and ignore the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 06:57 PM
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Correction: when you're on a date with an *above average woman, she has 3 other men *interested in her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 06:53 PM
2

And? Most of my exes and my husband had an abusive ex gf.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 11:16 PM
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Egalitarian don't bother with prenups. They don't need them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 10:59 PM
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Sure they negotiate but then they resent the woman they end up with forever and treat her like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 05:20 PM
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I never chased or wanted "top tier" men when single. I actively avoided "Chads" so no, it absolutely would have affected me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 05:19 PM
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"Many" women is a stretch. It's a small % nowadays
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 07:24 PM
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Egalitarian marriages have the lowest divorce rates
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 07:22 PM
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As a woman when single I avoided high earning men for this reason. They view their money as a "get out of jail free" card for needed relationship behaviors, fidelity being one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 07:21 PM
1

Being bored isn't a gender thing
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 02:20 AM
2

Statistically speaking, egalitarian marriages have lower divorce rates
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 04:13 AM
0

There are aggregates statistically. Statistically most women aren't like this. However the top % of women do what you write...average woman cant
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 05:39 PM
-1

Probably I just don't think that's realistic for the average person
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:59 AM
1

Most thin women I've befriended who aren't blessed in that area have had exes make comments about them. So while maybe they get boyfriends their boyfriends aren't totally satisfied. Some of course don't care
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:55 AM
1

Most guys into casual sex don't get the woman off, don't do much foreplay or act into her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:54 AM
0

Not in my social circle
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:53 AM
1

Thank God you said this and I don't have to type it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:52 AM
1

Men will just get a mistress than divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:51 AM
0

That statistic measures only who files at the courthouse. My BIL who is a divorce attorney says that statistic doesn't mean much. He actually advises his clients on if they should file or wait and it depends on the circumstances not the gender. If you look at behavior (who is more likely to become complacent, refuse marital counseling and not apply what is learned from marital counseling) men initiate it more.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:50 AM
5

Hmmm no. Arranged marriages have been the norm for most of human existence. women did not have a say. marrying for love is a very recent phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:47 AM
-1

Yep it's pure validation. I don't know why women get such a bad reputation for this, men are just as guilty.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:46 AM
1

Few men have passion for women too. Applies for both genders. For men they just see women as a masterbatory tool to get them off, casual sex rarely has genuine passion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:43 AM
-4

Some people simply get poor genetic luck with physical features deemed not attractive. Butterface women and women with unattractive body shapes naturally are in the same boat.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:40 AM
1

Yep, boobs are 100% genetic, no workout will make them bigger or keep them the same weight as your waist gets smaller. Butt's are similar though there is some you can do with that for weightlifting. However men still overall prefer women who have natural fat in that area (according to studies) over just pure muscle. Also, your waist size and ribcage size influences your body size (literally the skeleton, for example some women have a boxy shape no matter how slim they are). It's reported nearly …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:38 AM
4

You are 100% a hypocrite. Your delusion is amusing. Promiscuous men are scummy and have consistently scored higher in bad personality and character traits compared to noncasual sex seekers in studies. Promiscuous men who think they are good LTR partners but say Promiscuous women aren't are utter trash human beings. Also I'm literally loling you "won't take insults" but insult women for the same thing you do. Shows how entitled and lacking in character you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:30 AM
2

Most men use SM and compare women to them. The men here do, just go look at the Looks Dailythread. Calling clearly above average women as average.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:45 AM
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Once I hear that history I'm out. Manwhores make terrible life partners and treat women bad long term, but think they should be treated like a king. They also tend to not see women as human beings like themselves. Hypocritical manwhores are some of the worst type of men in existence. I honestly wish someone would just eliminate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:43 AM
1

I had men do this to me lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:38 AM
0

No it's not odd at all. It's rare for model looking gals to have a really really good personality
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:35 AM
5

I feel the same exact way about men like you (promiscuous men) they also give me the ick.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:31 AM
-1

That's because men shove down our throat we are insecure if we feel the same way. We are calling you out on your hypocrisy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:29 AM
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It is warranted. Studies show the more casual sex in your past, the more likely you are to cheat or divorce later (for BOTH genders too).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:28 AM
2

Nope : 50% looks 25% personality 25% character. Don't care about money or status, but people who have really bad work ethic happen to not have the personality I like (curious)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:24 AM
1

Not in America. Simply being a healthy weight woman (and that's nowhere near enough now due to insane beauty standards set by SM, which most men readily consume) and wanting that in a partner will eliminate 60 to 75% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:21 AM
2

This sounds like the average dude on apps
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:19 AM
-4

So? Women who have naturally unattractive body shapes (that require surgery to fix) have the same issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:18 AM
1

Nope, personality is more important
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:07 AM
1

Most don't do this
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 09:43 PM
7

When single I did the same and mostly didn't have problems
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 03:03 PM
7

Few women meet a guy and have overwhelming passion instantly...how weird
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 03:01 PM
-3

Literally never have met any women who do this. Your woman picker I swear
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 03:01 PM
-2

Especially women carrying it. Most men don't cook and expect women to, so his diet creates more work for her
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 04:55 PM
1

SCIENTIFIC studies show it. Not from magazines
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 11:11 PM
2

Nope, couples matched in looks and socioeconomic status have the lowest divorce rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 10:27 PM
3

This 100% so many men are like this. Porn isn't real
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 10:03 PM
8

My male exes didn't 😒 they expected me to "just know" even though every guy is different
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 09:58 PM
8

Nope, I broke up with a hot dude for this. He also was livid when I said I didn't want to be his FWB.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 07:05 PM
1

Go read some Anthropology books. It was not uncommon for children to not know for sure who their father was in their tribe/group.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:35 PM
1

Yep and men take away from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:33 PM
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Lots of scientific studies show the overwhelming majority of couples match in looks, especially when they first get together, verified by thousands of strangers. I'll take that evidence over random bitter Internet men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:32 PM
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Studies show the higher the n count the more likely someone is to cheat though
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:30 PM
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Studies find those with a high n count are more likely to cheat and/or get divorced if they marry...for BOTH genders. Manwhores make terrible LTR partners. Hollywood pushes they "reform" permanently for the right woman, it's BS, and smart women pass on manwhores 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:29 PM
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Men here only agree with this statement when those supposed "differences" benefit him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:26 PM
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As a hot woman who lost her V card later than average, this 100%. Most immediately wrote me off assuming I'd be bad in bed. Reddit is not real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:25 PM
1

No, we do. When we communicate we are called a nag.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 08:36 PM
1

Most married women with kids, especially younger ones, are the exact opposite of selfish. They aren't selfish enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 08:36 PM
1

Women should decanter their husbands not kids. Although this will lead to more divorces.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 08:35 PM
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Yeah OPs post isnt surprising. Chronically online reddit men probably are more harass-y.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 08:33 PM
1

Perfectly acceptable
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 08:32 PM
1

If you're fit, I'm sure you want a fit or at least a healthy weight partner and that eliminates alit of people if you live in the USA
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 03:59 PM
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I have 3 cousins ages 20 to 24 all partnered up. All 3 men are overweight, live with their parents and aren't really attractive. 2 of them have real bad social anxiety and it's not pleasant interacting with them. You likely would not like the females though
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 03:44 PM
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If I want actual good sex, I must sleep with a guy who cares about me and doesn't view me as a masterbatory tool.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 03:30 PM
2

Actually throughout human history we mostly lived in Hunter gatherer groups where women had sex with a bunch of males from her group, usually around her ovulation time, and she wasn't sure who the father was (this is why men with more motile sperm lived and passed on their genes, sperms from different men were literally competing with each other). Then the group raised the child together. I took evolutionary biology and psychology in college
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 03:29 PM
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Most of the couples I know that met online, the guy is average (like the majority of people). So apps can work for average men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 03:23 PM
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100% agree with this. Casual sex is better for men AND less risky.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 03:21 PM
4

Every man I've met that I know decently well who says this and uses OLD shoots too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 09:16 PM
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Nah hourglass shape is still by far the ideal, followed by pear shape, between 20 to 25% body fat percentage is seen as ideal
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 07:32 PM
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I'm 5 ft 3 and never cared about height (only boys shorter than me are preteens). I find height obsession odd. I briefly dated a 5 ft 5 guy who was insecure about it and thought it was weird he was so fixated on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:52 AM
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They are. Actually based on /r/rateme they are probably ugly by the Internet standards
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 09:18 PM
4

Or to not end up as someone's nurse...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 10:32 PM
7

Every attractive 30something single mom I know has absolutely no issues getting dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 10:30 PM
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Whenever there's an imbalance in relationships that benefit women y'all complain relentlessly and criticize those women as well. Sounds like you're selfish to me- it's fine if the imbalance benefits you but if it does a woman grrrr 😬
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 10:22 PM
44

Ding ding ding. I'd add willing to do all household planning and immersing herself in his friends and family circle without the expectation he has to do the same with hers. She has some of her own hobbies that benefits him in some way (cooking, gardening, etc) so he can have alone but also she shares some of his hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 09:34 PM
1

You can blur out parts you're concerned about and also delete the post after you get responses. Have you tried deleting your profile and recreating it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:25 PM
1

No it isn't. There are plenty of women who treat men very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:13 PM
1

Careful your poor woman picker is showing
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 04:55 AM
2

No. I don't expect people to vote for issues that don't affect them. I hate Trump but to be fair I'm a social worker with a long history of complicated miscarriages
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 09:20 PM
1

I wouldn't say its conservative versus liberal. More religious versus nonreligious
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 09:20 PM
4

Better support for families to have kids that other repliers described. Also to accept it. In the long run it's better to reduce the earth's population
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 09:19 PM
1

I love your flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 09:18 PM
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Nope. In today's world it's not smart to get into fights at all. Sounds like an excellent way to get murdered, sued or arrested.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 09:17 PM
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Cue all the "100 matches" on OLD yields lots of (genuinely interested) men wanting to date you/women can get easy mind blowing casual sex whenever responses 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 09:16 PM
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Women are less likely to report settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 08:10 PM
0

Yup because men settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 08:05 PM
0

Most couples where there is a disparity the woman is more attractive so that's not super helpful
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 08:00 PM
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Nope...lots of subreddits on the Internet where self proclaimed average looking men rate pictures of women prove you wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:51 PM
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Do you live in a rural area? Have you tried posting your profile for review on dating subreddits?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:50 PM
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Every guy I know who is average looking gets girls off of apps and even rejects some of them. You likely shoot too high or are very picky considering your own qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:23 PM
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That's only true for below average men or maybe people living in more rural areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:18 PM
1

Username checks out 😬
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:12 PM
2

When women don't use those things, most are considered too plain now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:11 PM
1

All of my exes who I fell hard for would have been rated as a 4 or 5, maaaaaaaybe a 6 off of /r/rateme
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:09 PM
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That's because you overrate men and underrate women. Those like you are a dime a dozen around here
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:08 PM
0

Yup. You are insannnnnely picky bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:06 PM
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Well yeah because it's Tinder. That is Thirsty Male Central.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:05 PM
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100+ matches that lead to one date with a man genuinely interested in you if you're lucky. It's not controversial. You just don't seem to realize that 100+ matches doesn't mean what you think it means. Most men swipe on the majority of women then they look at the profile later if she matches back.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:03 PM
1

I'd probably distance myself and think of them as an acquaintance or possibly a superficial friend
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 03:38 AM
-1

Yep men are given more leniency in this area. Another example of women being held to higher moral standards
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 01:17 AM
1

Yep! Don't think I could be more than an acquaintance
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 01:17 AM
1

Well how embarrassing for you. I've been married for 6 years. He makes you all look terrible
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 08:58 PM
3

This plus other things. Everyone has a pie chart for what they need. But the composition of said pie chart is different for everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 01:39 AM
1

I do. I'm married so my husband is well versed in it. When dating I did it too. I had no issues communicating what I like 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 11:53 AM
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My ego would be bruised for a bit but I'd understand. However I try to make every man my best. If he doesn't want to be that's on him. I give out a manual on how to sexually please me 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 11:07 AM
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This comment 😀😆 Dead 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 11:06 AM
2

I agree with him but I think it applies to women too. Men here overstate how well hair, makeup and clothes improve a woman. It boosts you 1, maybe 2, points total. For both genders the things that impact your looks the most are genetic. You either have it or dont.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 10:05 AM
3

Social media represents extreme people
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 09:59 AM
0

It's a small subset of people who divorce 2 and 3 times skewing the statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 12:48 AM
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Yep see it all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 12:47 AM
37

Ding ding ding. Why would you do all the typical work-and-be-a-housewife (which is stressful enough) for someone else's kids
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 12:47 AM
0

I'm married to a guy who only wanted sex with women he felt very strongly for, so he wasn't much experienced when we met.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:24 PM
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I know. It's still gross. Men who partake in that sort of thing aren't relationship material (just like men who say the same thing about women and everyone agrees)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 09:45 PM
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It's only bad when women do it. Look at all the men degrading promiscuous women saying it's a character flaw. With men it's no biggie it's "the past is the past" go visit the n count thread it's a massive double standard
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 09:44 PM
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They apply to women more than men actually. Men are expected to be forgiven look at the replies here. For women it's part of her character
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 09:43 PM
-5

Ewww feel bad for your wife
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 09:42 PM
-5

Yes it does, it shows their values. These men are 🤢🤢🤢 not wired to be happy with monogamy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 09:41 PM
8

This. Assuming he acts into me now.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 02:23 AM
2

Everyone on that subreddit is crazy lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 10:57 PM
6

If she's aggressive then most men here are lunatics
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 10:07 PM
1

How was she terrible in bed?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 10:44 PM
5

Men are the same. So pity normal women too
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 10:43 PM
1

Women peak sexually in their 30s and 40s bud. None of my 40+ female friends are obese sea hags
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 10:42 PM
5

Most people arent compatible and or attracted enough to each other that's why it's not fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:37 PM
2

Yup men like this usually screw over stable normal women and lament there are no decent women (forgetting these lovely women they've overlooked or even hurt) I think this forum attracts people with attachment issues
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 11:09 PM
1

Breadwinner moms statistically bear the brunt because men don't tend to don't pick up the house slack.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:28 AM
1

This and he also has to do more housework. SAHDs do less traditional work than SAHMs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:26 AM
1

Well I know several irl who verbally state they do care because men should be providers
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:25 AM
6

Most parents of rapists have seen prior troubling behavior or views towards women though from their sons. They choose to ignore it or excuse it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:20 AM
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Studies prove men lose weight easier due to higher testosterone and naturally having more muscle mass
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 01:24 AM
4

I work part time. I sometimes prefer my work days over staying at home days. Toddlers in particular are hard
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 07:18 PM
1

No, the odds of her coming across a decent SAHM man type is rare
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 07:17 PM
4

Me too
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 07:15 PM
2

Yep, it's much easier fir the average man to maintain a healthy weight
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 07:14 PM
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By far yes
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 07:08 PM
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Ok, so men do that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 03:20 PM
3

I feel this exact way about promiscuous men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 07:19 PM
0

Considering men here think 5 maybe 10% of women are in shape that doesn't mean much
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 07:17 PM
1

That doesn't make a difference. Women are always hypergamous remember
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 04:10 PM
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Rocky is a watered down version of Rihanna. He is not anywhere near as famous nor makes close to the amount of money she does though he does have money. This would be comparable to a woman making 250k and marrying a guy who makes 90k. Julia roberts married a not famous cinematographer with kids and wanted him so badly she connived to break up his marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 02:31 PM
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Both settled down with men not at their level when they could have gotten anyone they wanted
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 01:54 PM
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Explain Rihanna and Julia Roberts then.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 01:52 PM
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If you are overweight or as a woman naturally have a flat butt with a small waist, the gym helps. But otherwise it doesn't. Outside of weight I agree surgery is the best answer for people
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 01:51 PM
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If that's the case why are the majority of couples looksmatched and started in the same socioeconomic status?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 02:51 AM
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Men feel this way for top 10% of women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 02:45 AM
1

I wouldn't pay attention to podcast people
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 02:43 AM
0

This was from 2012-2017
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 03:54 AM
4

No
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 12:08 AM
4

When I lived on my own or with a roommate I dated several men living with their parents. All that mattered is we had privacy. Didn't date men like this in the very brief time I lived with my parents post college, except 1. With that 1 it was hard to have any privacy (though that's not why we ended, ) however I'm not a total hottie. Prob between a 5 and 7. And I'm probably boring by your standards
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 11:30 PM
-2

No marriage benefits men more than women. So even if he stops liking her as a person he gets other perks. More than a woman does.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 07:46 PM
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Men benefit from marriage more than women. That's why when men are unhappy with the woman herself as a person or get bored, they are just more likely to check out or look for a side piece. Marriage is alot more work for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 07:42 PM
12

Hey that's a win
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 01:47 PM
2

Nope. Look at attachment styles of women you date who are interested in you. If you want one invested in you, you need one with anxious or secure attachment. Avoid disorganized or avoidant
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 01:26 PM
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Sounds like you pick bad women or your standards are too high
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:09 PM
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Are we really surprised athletes or anybody famous would be married to someone like this? If they aren't self centered and vapid it's weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 02:57 AM
1

👏👏👏
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 02:16 AM
3

Studies continously show the majority of couples are looksmatched 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 12:27 AM
3

Men want the perks of feminism and perks of traditionalism with neither camps downfalls. I very rarely meet men who truly believe and follow either belief system.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 12:19 AM
4

Most couples are looksmatched. It means they are unattractive themselves and are bitter they cant be hypergamous
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 12:16 AM
1

Except it is
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 12:16 AM
1

It depends on the person. This is sometimes true. Some people drag out relationships or grieve it before it ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 12:09 AM
0

Or to help someone clearly in a medical emergency like I described
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 02:03 PM
1

Best combo of thin/Low BMI with feminine curves without surgery (less than 10% of women naturally have this shape), looks great without makeup because her facial features and skin are above average, perfect blend of assertive and submissive, financially stable job but still willing to take on the traditional stuff despite working like you, agreeable and understanding of your flaws/baggage but has little of these herself, puts out early yet has a low n count, high sex drive, socially and emotiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 02:42 AM
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Nope this forum is constantly filled with posts how only the most attractive women are worth pursuing, youth in women is the prize, women should do all the housework even if she works, single moms and fat women are worthless, cheating is worse when a woman does it, very career oriented women aren't worth it, etc. Men don't want to override their instincts
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 11:12 PM
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These all help men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 11:09 PM
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The left is the one who pushed states to be automatic 50/50 in custody court systems (which most states are) They have pushed for women to be drafted like men and for women to be financially independent. How does this mot benefit men?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 10:44 PM
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Yup. Guys are bitter they cant rotate through the top 10% of women (I'm a woman and have no interest in doing the reverse) They could get some women at their level they don't care though. I've lusted for many average guys...I've never dated a Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 10:21 PM
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No maybe it's because urban American life is very much "every man for himself." Hell in college when I fell down the stairs (there was a liquid on the stairwell...the college was afraid Id sue them later) and was sitting at the bottom of the stairs roughed up and rocking back and forth in pain afterwards for 20 minutes not a single person said anything- they all just walked right by me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 10:18 PM
-2

You can get that easily. She won't be the top 10% though which is what you want
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 09:58 PM
0

So you want a clearly above average woman when you're average? And are bitter she doesn't want to settle? Yup that sums up this forum
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 09:57 PM
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Women dont mature though according to men here, hence the double standards
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 09:55 PM
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No men are encouraged to NOT override their biological instincts. Aka all the red pill double standards that benefit men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 09:33 PM
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Men and empathy don't belong in the same sentence 😆 at least men on the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 08:35 PM
-4

Makes sense. My gut is rarely wrong so i follow it. Now why should I try to override my ick when men are encouraged to NOT override their biological instincts?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 08:34 PM
-2

What privilege do I have?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 08:30 PM
1

Men are not right wing due to men hating from women. Conservatives see women as inferior and should be controlled. That still appeals to a good chunk of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 08:26 PM
-6

I have never seen this
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 08:18 PM
-4

I don't see it this way. If men were oppressed the way women are and have been for the majority of humanity they'd become violent and way worse than women are currently at their first sign of comeuppance.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 08:18 PM
1

It's your woman picker.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 04:15 AM
2

Lol I live in one of the most ethnically diverse places in the USA You should hear how some Russian, Indian, Farsi, Mexican and Korean women talk
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 04:13 AM
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No matter what a woman does men complain. There's no point in caring what you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 02:20 AM
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Yup. I got waaaaay more attention from men once I hit 23 (I do Weight lifting though)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 02:19 AM
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81k is above average dear, unless you live in an exceptionally HCOL area. Like Nyc or San Francisco
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 02:00 AM
1

Men want a woman much hotter than him with a more interesting personality and better character. They are indeed hypergamous
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 09:46 PM
1

Average man expects too much though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 12:11 AM
1

I personally think it's bad for both. Just pointing out studies show being a good wife isn't as much of a protective factor but is more likely to be a good protective factor for husbands. Women are also more likely to divorce to be with the person cheated for than the reverse. Which further supports my original point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 10:24 PM
-2

It is. I see this happen with so many where they "beta bux" women once they want a stable LTR in their 30s...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 03:31 AM
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Studies show men are much more likely to rate their marriage and sex life as happy when cheating compared to women. This upsets men because they don't like being exposed as being this scummy and lacking a conscience and that being a good wife isn't a protective factor for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 03:30 AM
-2

They often are. Plainer women do not shoot high
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 03:28 AM
4

None of my friends' marriages have people dramatically different with looks...like the majority of couples
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 03:19 AM
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He should have ended up with one of the plainer women who were into him before he made it big. Your post reminds me of treatment I got when I was young and extremely thin with no curves versus a bit older when I filled out a bit in good areas and started weightlifting
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 02:18 AM
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This applies more to cheating men than women. Though I don't like cheaters in general
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 02:16 AM
4

Men do this with women they end up marrying all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 11:45 PM
2

Every single person except 1 has used my past traumas against me, man and woman. I don't tell anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 11:45 PM
1

Take the dick part out of 3 and it's not true. Alot of men don't care too much about a woman's pleasure especially later on
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 11:43 PM
1

Odd someone expressing an opinion you dont like or agree with is seen as "seething" by you. You're a drama queen.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 11:27 PM
12

Many people don't have sex until they are exclusive 🤷 a large chunk of my social circle isn't like you. And I live in a progressive area
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 11:24 PM
12

All of my friends who met their partner at 28+ (met and started dating, not married at this age) have more compatible and healthier marriages than my friends who met their partners between 18 and 27 (all in toxic and/or incompatible marriages). Every single one of them. I find people are smarter at picking a more compatible partner when older, not golddiggers or desperate...my experience is the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 11:22 PM
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Nope it's been documented in studies if there is a looks mismatch the guy is the hypergamous one. Men value looks more
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 10:50 PM
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No you do. You overestimate men's attractiveness and are too critical of women's
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 09:04 PM
-1

No she isn't. Thanks for proving my point though. Men here are delusional about their league. Explains your issues 🤷🤷🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 07:16 PM
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Please look at my link. Men aren't satisfied with a girl on his level. They need above them to feel they are happy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 06:37 PM
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https://www.medicinenet.com/what_ages_are_women_and_men_at_their_sexual_peak/article.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 06:27 PM
1

Really? Expanded their range? Not true https://np.reddit.com/r/ForeverAloneWomen/comments/1fnlz4w/this_is_why_im_scared_of_relationships_why_cant/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 06:20 PM
1

That's just OLD honestly. Women get this too. There's so many really messed up people online. I had a guy send me paragraphs of cussing when I refused to be a ONS and when I said he was out of control he just said "why don't you block me so i can continue without your responses" Unhinged
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 06:19 PM
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No, it's men who aren't satisfied with their looksmatch, they need above. https://np.reddit.com/r/ForeverAloneWomen/comments/1fnlz4w/this_is_why_im_scared_of_relationships_why_cant/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 06:16 PM
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Stay single https://np.reddit.com/r/ForeverAloneWomen/comments/1fnlz4w/this_is_why_im_scared_of_relationships_why_cant/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:48 PM
0

? Plenty of spaces on the internet defend those comments from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:48 PM
1

Makes sense. I'm happily married and the rating of people's looks in these forums are unhinged. Not surprising most of you all are single.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:47 PM
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Well considering people, more men than women but just responded to a woman doing it, are very critical of looks on here, calling perfectly attractive people average or ugly...it will be difficult for men. He likely is quite harsh on women's looks
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:44 PM
2

Butterface? Wow you are super critical of looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:42 PM
6

Attachment theory is well studied.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 04:40 PM
3

This gross generalization isn't true. I've been your partner before and had exes like you. (Male exes)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 04:40 PM
1

Over 50% of married cheating men state their wife has sex with them whenever they want
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:10 AM
1

Older men do not have high sex drives. Their sex drives peak in their 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:06 AM
0

Lol this isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 08:45 PM
1

What redstar said. Also studies show when women are breadwinners they do more than what men do when they're breadwinners
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 01:46 PM
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One of the reasons when I was single I didn't pursue men who made alot more than me is often they looked down on me so I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:24 AM
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Same with men. They want a woman who puts out easily but then get turned off by her n count. They don't want the pressure of being a sole provider but then get annoyed that when a woman works she doesn't want to do all the household stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:22 AM
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If by tough...you mean unresolved conflicts spanning years, male refusal to work on them, male refusal of marriage counseling or applying such counseling when it's over...yes. also men tend to cheat more and get more complacent
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:16 AM
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Sane with women! Hence submissive female breadwinners and the very common married single moms nowadays
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:15 AM
5

They have grace. Men simply just want to be the one in power is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:14 AM
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So when she works long hours to make more money...you'll do the majority of household stuff right? And you'll still tell her what to do all the time right? 😆😆😆
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:13 AM
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They don't intimidate men but men are usually turned off by them because they won't get a working wife who does everything else. Men don't really want to step up with that stuff. They also tend to want a submissive woman who does what THEY want.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:12 AM
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Go to dating subreddits here that's what most men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 02:36 AM
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Men do just as many of these contradictory things. Do you want my list?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:12 PM
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I can confirm this. Around age 30 my pretty normal libido skyrocketed. What a bunch of weirdos
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:11 PM
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He will once they aren't in the honeymoon phase
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:06 PM
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Same way men do with their "pick and choose" attitudes of traditionalism and feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:04 PM
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I'm liberal and don't consider moderate conservatives to be the same as crazy conservatives
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:04 PM
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Odd. I'm getting close to 40, with a child and get hit on way more than I did in my 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:21 PM
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No, men say women who don't sleep with them quickly are worthless all the time here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 11:58 PM
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Most people don't date others who have been in their social circle awhile. Vast majority of chances you won't know her past. So again you ask her these questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 10:43 PM
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Yep. Guys who are nowhere near Chads and have toxic traits do that. And if you're lucky, they will show it early on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 05:12 PM
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Men on this forum do the same to women. Tell us we need to vet better but then say if we don't sleep with them by date 3 (off of apps 😳) if not we suck, and that's why we get rejected- but if we do and it doesn't work out we need to pick better 😆😆😆 maybe ask the men too? They expect us to have a crystal ball
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 05:09 PM
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This^ all my female friends in their 40s when single preferred younger men than them (they weren't closed off to men their age or older, just less likely to like them). I thought it was odd at first. But they stated they didn't want kids so they didn't care about money... but wanted someone with less baggage than men their age who can keep up with them physically (they all are pretty active)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 07:56 PM
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This "that's just how things are" excuse yet doesn't work for women's biological wirings...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 07:52 PM
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? I'm not your last sentence 🤷🤷🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 02:38 PM
3

Plus the stigma
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 10:06 PM
3

So no pre-diabetic lifestyle essentially means lowish BMI, runners body correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 09:03 PM
2

What is pre-diabetic lifestyle
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 08:52 PM
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Me either this is one of the many reasons why
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 06:56 PM
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It's more once the honeymoon phase of a relationship is over you start to see the "real" them...if they played excessively prior to you, then cut back they will start doing it again. Also if you aren't living with someone, you don't know how they are spending their free time. You'll find out for sure once you move in.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 04:47 PM
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No, they often don't actually know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 03:13 PM
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Most women complaining date men who do it excessively and neglect them and/or life responsibilities
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:39 PM
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They are arguing if you have a normal schedule today 2 hours is tough.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:37 PM
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Yeah this was the only part that is iffy. Few people have 2 hours during the week each day
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:36 PM
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My husband and I play Counter Strike (main one), Minecraft, Borderlands, various zombie games, Dota and Deadlock. They are mostly co op.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:33 PM
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This is fine but the men women have a problem with don't act like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:32 PM
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I find people pick and choose when to use this as an excuse though
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:40 PM
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It's used as a get out of free jail card for men
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 09:15 PM
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Most men nowadays encroach or are actually into the addicted category and have it affect the way they view their sex life and women's bodies though. (Good luck getting them to admit it though, but if you cant quit something youre addicted). It's part of the modern man now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 01:55 PM
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I'm really against anything that takes your sexual energy and diverts it to someone outside your partner
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 02:23 AM
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No they don't lol. Man you guys really ignore women on your level
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 11:14 PM
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He's the same as her. He could have been the bigger person but he stooped to her level instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 08:12 PM
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Men: damn, life's so good all these desperate unattractive incompatible women want to have meaningless sex. But it's good attention for me even if these women dont care for me at all and I'm always get my O. Women: ugh, life is hard. So many men I'm not into who don't like me at all as a person want meaningless sex where I don't even get an o. Plus if it keeps happening I'm judged by future men! Yup men and women are different
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 08:09 PM
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Meaningless sex with a guy who couldn't give two shits about you isn't getting a job
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 08:03 PM
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It's more important to focus on finding compatible people to date once you meet bare minimum for dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 08:00 PM
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Romantically unsuccessful women are mocked, made fun of and viewed negatively
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 07:58 PM
3

Yep. One of my previous clients has an ex husband convicted of using prostitutes (he brought one home!!!) And he has 50/50 😳 you need a CONVICTION of a child related crime. Drug dealers get 50/50 assuming they don't hire a terrible lawyer
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 08:11 PM
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My pregnancy triggered my auto immune disorder 🤷🤷🤷 it's apparently common. Pregnancy can change your body shape, skin volume and elasticity. These can't be fixed without surgery
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 06:32 PM
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No, having children slows down your career trajectory
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 06:17 PM
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Women can't win 😆😆😆
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 06:16 PM
14

Yup majority of men agree to less custody outside of court and in mediation
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 06:15 PM
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I use to work in the legal system and the fear mongering is just not accurate. Most states are 50/50 now in court automatically and it's super difficult to prove the other parent unfit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 06:15 PM
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Most men who don't have 50/50 AGREE to it outside of court. Sorry to burst your victim bubble
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 06:13 PM
3

This place is phenomenal for making me appreciate my husband. God damn
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 02:53 AM
3

They exist they just often aren't hot enough for your standards or exciting enough
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 02:44 AM
2

That is so depressing
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 02:42 AM
3

No, they hold out fir the 9 who brings peace and cares, if they end up with the 6 they feel they settled
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 02:40 AM
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My husband is not like this at all. He's wonderful and I'm one of the most happily married of my social circle. But all of my exes are ages 32 to 40 and none of them are like my husband. Times were different that's right- people didn't view women as equal human beings 😆😆😆 but no biggie right? They just needed to "learn"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 11:52 PM
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No it's still common. I'm 36 and see lots of married couples with this setup in their 30s and 40s. The men had fathers that did absolutely nothing while their mother's did everything and worked so these men do maaaybe 10% of stuff outside of work yet think they're equal because they do a tad more than their fathers did while they were growing up. Studies have shown men overestimate their contributions outside of work to this effect. One study found women moving in with a guy WITHOUT kids added 7…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 08:30 PM
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Well yeah. Alot of women like this if given the option like being a SAHM
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:57 PM
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I wonder if these men with such strong feminist beliefs in regards to paying the bill ALSO hold such strong feminist beliefs in other areas of dating that affect them (especially the ones that affect them negatively...) because they truly hold feminist beliefs. Me thinketh not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:46 AM
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Ding ding ding! Last 2 sentences.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:37 AM
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Nah, in America women are expected to work like men AND still do the majority of housework, planning, childcare. This is on top of being held to higher emotional and social standards (America is way less lenient with women in terms of anything regarding loyalty, selfishness and disrespect) PLUS women are criticized more for not upkeeping their appearances and are criticized for simply not aging (how in the world a woman is supposed to keep on top of her appearance with everything else she does i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:31 AM
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Women do far more leading and bear the burden in LTRs and some men bear this during initial courtship dating (max one year though rare). I'd deal with this for a few months if it meant the chance to coast for the rest of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:15 AM
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This is a great response every line.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:09 AM
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Wow you are a sicko. This is the problem with younger men today. So many are uggo on the inside. They do the same crap they demonize women for doing. 🗑🗑🗑
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:07 AM
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For the same reason you think yours do with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 11:58 PM
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It does...I'm not taking advice from a guy who flat out admits he treated his ex poorly then 5 minutes later laments there's no good women interested in him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 10:08 PM
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Oh you're the guy who treated his ex selfishly and admitted it, then complains no girls are into him I remember you! This combined with your 3 date rule...yeah I can see why you have issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 08:51 PM
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Three dates is nowhere near enough to know how a person is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 08:50 PM
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Well your logic is flawed. I've never jumped a man when I barely know him early on and in all of my past and current relationships I had/have the higher libido. You are hurting your chances for rejecting women over that. (Assuming she shows interest otherwise)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 08:11 PM
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Yeah I see in the responses here the same life several of my exes had (who I sadly see as emotionally and socially unintelligent and a bit stunted, many I think had some social anxiety or overall anxiety issue)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 06:37 PM
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Most women will want marriage and/or kids so that weeds out at least 80% of women. Whats your definition of "not very sexual"? Not jumping your bones enthuasiastically after 3 short dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 06:34 PM
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No, I think they want to see if their issues with dating is an overall deficit or from traits affecting other areas of their social life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 06:32 PM
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It would make me more sensitive to future red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:38 PM
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This ^^^^ and actually for the women who do truly hate all men this is why usually. Theyve experienced countless men that truly hate all women and make women suffer so they figure they will do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 03:39 PM
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Nah, 100s of women Ive met have used that word for a man they have never ever slept with. This is a delusional comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 05:36 PM
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These platitudes make no sense- people dont know what to say so they say stuff like this. People who cannot be alone get in relationships all the time and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 03:39 PM
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"There is someone out there for everyone" As long as you dont have offputting negative qualities, are social and meet the bare minimum needed for a healthy relationship this is true. (Sadly some people dont and wont see it). Its not bad advice- you dont want to end up in an incompatible relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 03:38 PM
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I exercise regularly (weightlifting and cardio) and eat healthy. My BMI is 24 which many men here consider fat but Ive been weight lifting for over 6 years so I do not look as heavy as the scale says. I dont do this just for vanity but health reasons too. My mother died young from health problems so I have always been paranoid if I dont take care of myself I'll end up like her. I also got diagnosed with the start of an autoimmune disorder 2 years ago. Its not severe enough where I have to take m…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 04:08 PM
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60 year old women could care less.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 03:54 AM
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Well I am nearly 37 and the attention has changed from "you're hot" to "you're a hot MILF." At this point I welcome becoming invisible. The older I get the more annoying I find people in general to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 03:09 AM
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Ehhhh its not always purposeful. I have VERY low self esteem when I was in my early 20's to mid 20's (thanks overly critical mother, high school bullies and bad experiences in childhood). One time a guy did this to me and I for sure thought he was interested but he mocked me when I told him I liked him. So after that, whenever a guy did this I assumed I was "reading too much into it." This made my already low self esteem even worse. I also thought there was no way a guy could ever like me that w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 03:04 AM
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Yup if you had his children you'd probably die during childbirth even with modern medicine...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 03:02 AM
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Yup this place is my reality TV!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 06:40 PM
0

Not many marriages are actually happy though I do agree
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 06:39 PM
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I'm happily married for 6 years and came to this forum out of boredom. Most men here don't like my advice. I was also called too picky in my 20s by people in crappy relationships. In my current social circle people say they are jealous of my marriage. The majority of couples in my main group range from toxic to not compatible. But then when I respond to say I was picky and didn't settle for poor behavior they look at me like I have 2 heads 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 06:35 PM
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Yes it would. Multiple my of female friends in their early 40s who aren't keen on dating do exactly this (they also work from home or in female dominanted fields), and they don't get opportunities. They are not ugly and don't get approached
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 05:56 PM
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Yes I hate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 11:27 PM
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He's a typical male here who thinks above average women are average. They're rampant in the Looks Daily thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 08:54 PM
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That's for the best though
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 08:53 PM
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Best friend to me is more indicative of emotional connection, communication, conflict resolution etc than "common interests" Also being compatible personality wise so you can be yourself freely around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:45 PM
1

I received push back IRL for saying that
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:07 PM
1

That only measures who files at the courthouse
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 03:34 AM
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Most did yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 03:19 AM
2

All of them did in the beginning otherwise I wouldn't have dated them. Roughly half became lazy regarding it over time
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 12:38 AM
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Your attitude in this post is extremely critical. Over the top critical hence my response. Your future gal will sense you're settling for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 10:33 PM
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My SIL is in this situation. 40, 3 young kids and hasn't worked a full time job in 13 years. Life is brutal for her. Her husband walked out though she wanted to save her marriage. I doubt the men here believe this story because they say that doesn't happen. Alimony is awarded in 8% of divorces and in most states it's only for half of the length of time you haven't been working while married. My SIL gets it for 5 years, so not exactly half. But it's not enough with child support still. I hope she…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 10:30 PM
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Duh men don't care if being a SAHM hurts her in the long run (assuming he makes enough to be a sole provider which is difficult nowadays). The average male here does not care at all for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 10:28 PM
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Good luck with your warped mind and finding 11% of women hot enough for you. My heart aches for some poor soul of a woman who is a normal "needs clit stimulation" person and ends up with you. RIP her self esteem. I have no doubt you'll utterly destroy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 10:24 PM
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We have a great idea of it. You've made it abundantly clear you just want PIV sex so you can O and not have to do any work on your partner 🤷 because you're selfish AF
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:40 PM
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You're assuming the man is fine with foreplay. The most common sexual complaint about men in ltr's is lack of foreplay
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:39 PM
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She needs to ditch the vibrator
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:35 PM
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My clitoral ones are intense and are like a drug for me...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:34 PM
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I always nexted men who showed no care for giving me one...Life is too short and it doesn't take me 30 minutes
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:33 PM
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I gave men manuals about me, and they didn't want to do it 🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:31 PM
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It shouldn't take that long, she doesn't know what gets her off. Most men complain after 2 minutes 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:29 PM
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Alot of men don't want to do any foreplay... they want quickies once the NRE wears off (or he never cared in the first place). That's where those female statements are coming from...not that she can't O. Op describes a minority of women (and minority of men at the end too).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:27 PM
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It can be. It depends on why. The amount of people I know who have all fake friends concerns me more though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:02 PM
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Yup that's how alot of guys here are. They call above average women average then make posts such as "average women ignore me, they're so hypergamous " it's delusional but hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:00 PM
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Red Pill men are more common though
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 05:44 PM
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Nearly every red piller does that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 05:43 PM
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The hottest I've ever been in my life, where I got random male attention to the point it was annoying (men coming up to me at the mall and grocery store unprompted saying "your body is goals" "you are hot" and so on) was at a BMI of 24.5. I was my most on point with diet and weightlifting for several years by then but I wouldn't say "extreme"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 05:38 PM
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You don't need to be an extreme body builder. The Slim Thicc ( small/flat waist with big T and A) look is women around 25 BMI who've been weightlifting awhile but not extremely. I see it alot in the Looks Daily thread here and men seem to greatly prefer that look. Body fat is better...there's a dramatic difference between women with 25 or 26 BMI with 20% body fat versus 27%
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 05:36 PM
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Bmi is not a great indicator. Body fat % is better
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 05:30 PM
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Bmi is not a good measurement for being overweight that's why I asked this. You can have someone be the same height and weight and look much different. Body fat percentage is a better indication.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 02:43 PM
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I preferred them to not have it use it or look at it much.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 01:40 PM
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What is your definition of overweight?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 01:27 PM
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What in the world did I just read?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 02:27 AM
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This depends on where on the internet you're reading and your social circle. The amount of weight gain you describe I find both genders are OK with these comments or are more understanding about it. It's alot of weight. I see more negativity when 1) the weight gain isn't as much and the person was previously at the very low end of their BMI range and remains healthy or a little bit overweight 2). Or when it's due to understandable circumstances (had a baby recently or medical issues for example)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 02:21 AM
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I usually insult them back. It works 50% of the time. Most of the time if I ignore them they get worse
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:07 AM
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The only 2 cons men have are improving, so yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:55 PM
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I would yes for reasons you don't list here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:54 PM
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Vibe and attractiveness yes. So glad I'm old and married
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:56 PM
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...that's a limited view.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:42 PM
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She must be special to deal with your views on exercise and beauty and your "my way is the only way" attitude. Feel bad for her!!!😳
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 09:57 PM
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As long as you can have life (go out to eat occasionally and such) fitness and nutrition is a plus for me because i exercise and eat healthy 80% of the time. However that's another area where I've had mansplaining and men nitpicking me or expecting me to adapt to them. Basically if a woman does the same hobby/has the same interest, some men will absolutely do the behaviors I list.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:51 PM
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Yeah I do that with my husband. But I didn't when we first met much and it wasn't an issue as long as he didn't neglect me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:01 PM
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Anything else really. Reading, woodworking, hiking, gardening, playing sports or instruments, craft hobbies, etc. It could be a niche one too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:00 PM
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Some men play excessively at the expense of their relationships and don't do any self improvement. Alot of men off of OLD apps have no hobbies outside of watching sports and playing video games. I'm a female gamer (not obsessively, one of many hobbies) and many would mansplain to me, or talk to me like my tastes suck if it didn't perfectly match theirs and expect me to adapt to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:29 AM
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I like both. The games where I have to be careful to not reveal I'm a girl are shooter games like Counterstrike and Call of Duty and open world games Minecraft and Day Z.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:18 AM
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That's unfortunately not been my overall experience as an avid female gamer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:35 AM
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This!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 07:35 PM
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That and won't be contributing much income
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 10:15 PM
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This
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 10:14 PM
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This!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 09:58 PM
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Ehhhg not really...at least not a really strong emotional connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:45 PM
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Hmmm I notice a maturity difference in a 25 versus 35 year old most of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:57 AM
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Men tend to walk all over women who adore them...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 11:51 PM
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Most men aren't satisfied with someone at their level they overshoot and don't accurately rate themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:23 PM
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I'm happily married to a guy who was shy and kinda awkward in the beginning. I thought it was endearing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:22 PM
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I've gotten this as a woman. Lol. Good conversation only helps if they're attracted to you in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:20 PM
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No. I'm married to my best friend and several of my friends aren't. I don't envy their marriages personally...they usually comment on the bond I have with my husband. They don't have the emotional connection and freedom to 100% be themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:18 PM
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Yup. The overwhelming majority of men DONT want 50% or more of custody and agree to it outside of court.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:14 PM
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Agree!... except I could have some attraction and I'm rejecting due to incompatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:13 PM
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For me it's average bod. Not really too muscular or fat, just average. thick brown hair + goofy adorable smile thing- think Andy Samburg
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:11 PM
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Perfect answer
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:10 PM
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Its the women you choose. Ive never caved.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 09:17 PM
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" This is due to the fact they know there's always a safety-net if it goes south and for most women, it's usually backup guy nr2 while for most men no one, that's why they love lumping on this idealism" Why do divorced men get remarried more often than average (and more quickly) than divorced women then?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 09:15 PM
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If a guy says he wants the hottest most mentally unwell (and thus subservient) women only and is not willing to settle for anything less, I'd recommend Red Pill. Men who need to have the upper hand in relationships and use Red Pill will be successful. They will only attract a certain type of woman but ultimately, that woman will be their best match. This is a good thing so the women turned off by Red Pill ideology can date someone who matches their values.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 09:09 PM
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Men wont think the women choosing them are good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 09:08 PM
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You have a terrible social circle. I know plenty of shorter than average men in loving relationships who didnt have to "buy" them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 05:11 PM
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By far that women find average men unattractive. Seems to be the basis for a lot of woman hatred and this assumption is wrong. The vast majority of people end up with their looks and socioeconomic match. The vast majority of people fall within the realm of average.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 05:08 PM
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No, most modern women arent participating in alot of casual sex. If they think they do, the problem is the women you pay attention to and the social circles you run in.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 04:20 PM
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False. I lost my virginity older than average and when I told men, they were shocked as they said I was hot and sociable. (I grew up in a religious environment, grew out of this by the end of college, then got into a 2.5 year long relationship with a religious guy who was in the process of becoming unreligious the way I did, he had ED issues, I later regretted wasting that much time on him) I started to freak out when 5+ men rejected me. I actually relate to alot of the male virgin posts here, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 04:15 PM
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Since there are some women who put out easy, men dont want to wait at all. They just say "shes not into me" and next her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 04:10 PM
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RedPillers are full of double standards and contradictions. This is one of many and I agree it makes no sense whatsoever. They are chasing a unicorn- one who puts out easily but who has no casual sex history (oh and she also screws like a pornstar).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 04:09 PM
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I agree with this. On dating subreddits here, it is repeated over and over if a guy leaves after sex it doesnt matter, he wasn't right for you anyway and she shouldnt feel shame over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 04:07 PM
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You're an unicorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 04:06 PM
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If thats the case why do so many men pick porn over their partner in a LTR?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 04:05 PM
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Yeah but thats just you! Your peers arent all like you. Many women think they are ok to decent looking, then have men put them down repeatedly (at various different stages of dating I might add) for small physical flaws. I used to visit the "rate me" subreddits and have been rated anywhere from a 5-8 with being a 6.5 or 7 on average. Things men have verbally made comments to me about: -hair on my toes -my hair being too "crinkly looking" (its wavy most of the time) -my boobs needing to be a "bit…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 04:04 PM
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Well thats sad. People need to learn social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 06:22 PM
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"If a 20 year old woman wants to go out with a 35 year old man, who cares?" ​ Because a 20 year olds brain is NOT ON THE SAME LEVEL as maturity as a 35 year olds brain. #ScienceDoesntLie Thats why we say the relationship is predatory and clearly "imbalanced" I know just as many men who agree with me as women. Edit: the CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM AGREES WITH ME. Its why people convicted of crimes at age 25 and below, with no criminal history, arent given as harsh a judgment as 26+year olds with no c…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 03:56 PM
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I wouldnt say so. Its just the traits in a man a woman likes makes it more likely he is sexually experienced. I have actually met several very good looking, successful, compassionate, easy to talk to and charismatic men who have never slept around (they have strong morals on the subject) and they are highly sought after by women. They are rare for sure but these men do exist and they are not rejected by women in the slightest.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 03:51 PM
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Thats odd. I lived with a lot of random roommates throughout my college and graduate school days and all of my overweight, plain looking ex roommates who wanted a high n count, they struggled to get attention let alone sex from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 03:49 PM
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I agree with this. I also think having a preference for nonvirgins or non virtually no experienced people isnt virgin shaming either. I lost my virginity older than average and was open to sleeping with a guy who obviously liked me in a committed relationship. I went on several dates with men who openly made fun of and expressed disgust for female virgins off of OLD apps. (They didnt know I was a virgin). I immediately refused another date. I wish they had been more tactful in describing why the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 03:48 PM
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Men do not have these risks. Yes they do -STDs and spreading them (men are the spreaders of STDs because it takes longer for them to have symptoms) I also have an ex male friend who has an incurable STD from sleeping around -knocking up a woman and having to pay child support for 18 years with a woman you barely know and potentially will have drama with (the high quality single ladies dont tend to want to date men like this too) -a bad reputation. This is becoming more common in social circles b…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 03:45 PM
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Its harder for the average man to get because the average woman isnt a thirsty, desperate, will fu** any set of genitals person (who then will of course degrade the man to others, rank him, analyze him and try to string him along after) It is BETTER that it is harder for the man to get. Because it means you are actually valued as a person more.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 03:40 PM
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Yep to pick them when theyre picky, sleep with them early (but never sleep with another man early). She also must be GOOD in bed despite having very little sexual experience (sex is harder for women than it is for men) Then when he dumps her (the men who whine no woman is interested in them but when they get them they treat them poorly) she is "damaged" for the next man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 03:38 PM
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Ding ding ding we have a winner.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 03:37 PM
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Yep, that's because even when a man is not completely thrilled with a woman. He's getting perks from their marriage union. Women don't typically get those, it's more a burden, so a burden+nit great match is worse than perks+not great match.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 11:08 PM
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Less willing to accept a neutral situation 😄😄😄 can you read? Women are Thrilled with that, good luck finding it though!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 07:06 AM
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I guess some do that but thats very manipulative. I think its more that most of the time, women's desire to have sex goes down when men arent pulling their weight. This is because that kind of dynamic breeds resentment which kills their libido. Its not done as manipulation on purpose maliciously. Like, we dont wake up and go "well he didnt do the dishes yesterday so no sex for 3 days" or "I could go for some sex right now but he was emotionally unsupportive today when I never act like that" Its …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 07:16 PM
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No theyre not, they involve actual surveillance. Surveillance over a LONG period of time. Your single anecdote doesnt account for thousands and thousands of couples showing when BOTH people work 40-50 hours a week the women STILL does the majority of SAHM duties. I obviously expect a SAHM with a husband working long hours to do almost everything- so stop putting words into my mouth that I NEVER said.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 04:47 PM
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Actually studies show in married couples where both the man and woman work full time and have kids the woman still does the majority of housework, childcare, planning and cooking. Its depressing. So studies back me up on this. Even more depressing? In marriages where the woman works more and is the breadwinner she still does more than 50%.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 04:11 PM
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There are lots of studies showing marriage benefits men more. Your first statement is false and its just your opinion. (I also already explained it- women are just socialized to want it more). Im going to stop engaging with yoy because Ive been doing this constantly and I think you have a reading comprehension problem: "If you truly are anti-marriage like me stop citing how great it is (it is only for MEN) because it really isn't at all. You should be encouraging most ppl to not get married. (I …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 04:02 PM
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Because its Purple Pill Debate forum. Please start writing this on all the male versions of this post (they are 10x more plentiful than the woman's version): "just don't get married then"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:50 PM
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Secondly why are you even trying to encourage marriage if it is so bad for women and good for men lol... Im not? Im pretty anti marriage. The vast majority of men are not marriage material. Also, I believe a lot of men arent simply wired to be satisfied with one woman long term and I think these men are very stupid for marrying but they do it for the benefits of marriage not because they truly deeply love their girlfriend at the time. Ive met a smaller % of men not like this. Women are socialize…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:45 PM
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I actually am very happily married. Im described as the happiest and best matched couple in my circle of friends containing around 12 couples. I felt like OP when I was in my late 20s after dating some...then I FINALLY met a man who is one of the rare ones and isnt what she writes. When all my female friends speak about their partners, I get uncomfortable, because I personally cannot relate but I have empathy for them. The men here would absolutely destroy my husband though. Its because the marr…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:36 PM
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Studies show men are happier married than single because men get someone to split the bill with, a default parent, a maid, a chef and sex. The reverse is shown for married women because women have to work like men WHILE still doing everything else. These studies however, they dont mean the men are very satisfied with the WOMAN they picked- just that marriage makes their life easier. It is easy to be a married man- you work 40 hours and come home and do very little. While most married women with …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:29 PM
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This is a purple pill forum...so yes posts like this are common. In fact men posting this is 10x more common. If this wasnt a gender debate forum I could see you saying that. Funny how the replies are so different when its men posting this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:27 PM
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Studies back up everything she says, so its not "too many guys" unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:11 PM
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The studies I have read indicate 4x but yes I wrote this above. LOL to the guy who says "but if you get sick you are missing out on a caretaker!"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:10 PM
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You realize men are 4x more likely to leave their terminally ill partner than the reverse...right? WOMEN are the ones being the caretakers for ill family members...not men! Men resent having to be a caretaker. Also men dont generally provide protection during burglaries...those days are gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:08 PM
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I'm so glad she refuses to settle. Some average man who expects a slave and for his partner to bear the burden wont get one now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:07 PM
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Thats right, but everything she wrote about men being socialized a certain way is true, she should remain single because most men wont be happy with her expecting an equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:06 PM
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Best answer here!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:05 PM
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It isnt for most women. Studies back us up on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:05 PM
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Don't get married. You don't have the mindset for a healthy marriage. She does have a healthy mindset for marriage. She is choosing to not partake in something that will end up being a net negative in her life. What she writes is the reason why studies show married women are less happy than single women but vice versa. I am sure if she meets a man who doesnt do what she writes (they do exist but are scarce) she would be a good partner to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:05 PM
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As a man, the answer to this question... is that it's funny seeing other men all immediately jump to your defense and affirm your feelings and tell you that you are correct. No most are insulting her! Ive lurked this forum for awhile and see the genders reversed scenario of this all the time and men dont get the same amount of hate. Most men simply say "dont marry then" or a few slightly nicer one says "just vet better." Men are just triggered a woman doesnt need him, especially a higher quality…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:03 PM
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Why dont men write this when countless men on here bitch and complain how they'll never get married? "save a woman's life...dont get married" ​ The differences in replies between the male version of this and the female version of this are hysterical...men are really triggered women dont need them LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:02 PM
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She would appreciate one who doesnt act like what she writes. The problem is they are few and far between and studies back up this assumption. I really dont understand why men read this stuff they just insult women instead of stepping back and going "How can I be sure that I wont become too much work or a net negative for my future wife?"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:00 PM
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She would appreciate one who doesnt act like what she writes. The problem is they are few and far between and studies back up this assumption. I really dont understand why men read this stuff they just insult women instead of stepping back and going "How can I be sure that I wont become too much work or a net negative for my future wife?"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:59 PM
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No she hasnt. It wouldnt surprise me at all if OP is highly liked IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:58 PM
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Sadly studies back up everything she says.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:57 PM
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Do you write this about the countless men who spend alot of energy saying they will never get married here? They receive more support and WAY less judgment than OP (men getting triggered a higher quality woman doesnt want to get married )
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:56 PM
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LOL most men are absolutely not like you, you gotta be kidding me! It is rare to meet a man who cooks and is willing to regularly cook while in a LTR. Most women dont get regular orgasms from sex so we do better without sex than you. Masterbating really is better for most of us women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:54 PM
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Studies indicate everything she wrote in her post is right. Studies looking at THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of couples. She's not bitter she is realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:54 PM
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Its not misandry. I dont feel this way about men who ARENT like what OP writes. They are few and far between though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:53 PM
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Someone is triggered that women dont need men. Theres absolutely nothing in her post suggesting she cannot land a good partner. Everything she writes is reasonable. Men absolutely would never get married if the societal expectations were reversed and you were the one doing most of the traditional stuff WHILE working full time with kids. You'd nope out of that situation REAL quick. It is amusing you're projecting a woman who wants an equal cannot get a good partner. So you're admitting men don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:50 PM
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You can date and get all the benefits of marriage if you want Yeah, men date with no marriage in mind and then literally just act like the men OP describes LOL. Any self respecting woman wont be your slave and create more work for herself like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:50 PM
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Studies disagree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:49 PM
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He is rare. You should tell him that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:48 PM
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A well adjusted man who is willing to pull his weight wont find her miserable. Its not OP's fault most men arent like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:47 PM
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Studies disagree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:47 PM
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You are RARE. Even more RARE if in a LTR you continue this behavior. I have met SO MANY men who stop doing it once they get married as they just assume the woman will do it. The majority of married men I know who regularly cook and clean only do it because their wife literally NAGGED them to death about it. Also studies show women working the same amount of hours as their husband still do the majority of the housework and childcare...so literally studies that look at thousands more people than y…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:45 PM
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Best answer here and this is OP's point. There is no point for the majority of women to get married. There are few few men who arent what she writes. As a woman myself, her post is probably my all time favorite post I have ever seen here. No joke Ive been here awhile. I WAS THIS WOMAN AT 27. I felt she was writing about me. I was the SAME exact way as her. I had people pressure me to not be single and I always told them "the juice is not worth the squeeze" as a woman and that I would be insanely…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:42 PM
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I like this approach wish more men would think like this. I wish men would stop "taking what they can get" too because the woman will figure it out you arent that into her and your relationship will suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:35 PM
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Oh boy dont call them out on their contrary statements LOL The men here blow arguments whichever way paints them the victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:30 PM
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Men do this too. The amount of men Ive met who have emotionally abusive ex gfs and then treat their next sweet as pie gf like crap over time is alot. The sweet gf isnt as "exciting" and she is easy to take for granted.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:28 PM
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Very very few people are successful in obtaining their ideal. Most people arent good enough for their ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:27 PM
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Alot of men feel this way about their wives...I think its why most men arent good husbands and women slowly become more unhappy wives. This forum has made me more convinced alot of men "take what they can get" and lock it down, then realize they arent that satisfied and it comes out in their treatment of women. These men know they will never obtain what they're looking for though. There's a few marriages like this in my social circle and tons of them in my hometown...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:25 PM
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They don't always reject. Once they're locked in a relationship with that girl...the fact that you don't meet those ideals and they won't feel fully satisfied without that starts to slip out in comments and the way they treat you. "You have such a nice stomach! Wish your boobs could be 2 cups size bigger WHILE keeping your boobs" Average plain looking men saying this crap 🙄 😉 I find the men who you deem as the quiet mild mannered in the beginning are the worst offenders.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 01:20 PM
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I have always prioritized respect hence why dating hasn't been easy. Finding a man who respects women and in general others is difficult. Most struggle even when they admit you're a "catch"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 01:13 PM
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Less hot men get new women all the time bud. Less hot men who are unrealistic or picky won't as easily but think they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 01:09 PM
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Science doesn't lie 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 01:07 PM
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Hate to break it to you but most couples in this world are evenly matched in both looks and socioeconomic status. There's outliers but they're outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:30 AM
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Uhhh yeah me and none of my female friends are like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:28 AM
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Social media is not a good representation of what the average person is like
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:28 AM
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Personality, compatibility with me (a very important concept this forum leaves out) and how much he likes me are the determining factors
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:25 AM
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The less hot men don't stick around either 🤷‍♀️ your character determines that not looks
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:23 AM
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Ding ding ding
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:23 AM
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The happiest married women I know are married to men who respect them and treat them as equals. Not women fine with being a doormat
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:22 AM
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I know so many men who don't want kids and specifically want a woman like this soooooo not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:21 AM
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They're not high. Men just don't want women to have any standards at all that way the hottest women will screw them, be fine with being treated poorly and continue to want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:20 AM
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No...I typically don't have sex until after commitment, but I didn't see their jerkness prior to that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:18 AM
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Most of the men were men I met off of OLD apps in person. They were average men not Chads. Several of them even admitted I was too attractive for them but it still didn't stop them from nitpicking 🤷‍♀️ most men want an extreme slim thick chick which isn't naturally attainable. Influenced by their porn usage no doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 11:58 PM
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No they were nice in the beginning. I'd never commit to a jerk. Most jerk people put on a facade the first few months. Women included
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 11:32 PM
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Remembering a username who insulted you isn't stalking. So dramatic. And no. You said that my weight was fat and unattractive and you don't believe in BMI anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 11:29 PM
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Please see my comment above. He thinks healthy weight women are fat. I'm 5 ft 4 and 133 lbs. My doctor said 120 to 145 is the healthy BMI range for my height. When i wrote this, this user said I'm not thin enough and I must only desire Chads 😄😄😄😄 he then gaslit me and said he didn't say that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 10:31 PM
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What world do you live in? Fat women are made fun of and devalued everywhere what an insane comment. Edit: you're the user who called me fat a few weeks ago for BEING AT A HEALTHY BMI!!!!! LOL nvm. I remember you this explains alot. I guess you're so upset about the supposed landwhales being praised you insult healthy weight women. (Or more likely you think very mildly overweight and healthy weight women are fat landwhales)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 10:26 PM
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I personally think alot of lesbian women have personalities bad for marriage. That's just my opinion though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 10:21 PM
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Keep being delusional and having no self awareness at all 😄😄😄
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 10:19 PM
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Men do the same thing listed in your data. Men are more wired for novelty and want to "spread their seed" Banging the same woman day after day is boring to them 🤷‍♀️ however when they do the literal same sex acts with a different woman they like it more
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 10:14 PM
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Because men don't think a nice woman being taken for granted after she is picked is "finishing last" because this dynamic benefits men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 10:13 PM
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Yep and then after they lock them down they take them for granted
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 10:10 PM
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Nope, they get treated badly and not appreciated by their spouse not "happily ever after"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 10:10 PM
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Exactly. Bitchy women don't allow themselves to be taken for granted. Most men just take nice women for granted over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 10:08 PM
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He will take her for granted over time. He will treat a mean girl better for longer
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 10:08 PM
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Nice girls get treated like shit over time. Most men end up taking advantage of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 10:07 PM
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She has ripe picking for men that will just take her for granted over time
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 10:06 PM
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Just like men! They want the perks of feminism and traditionalism each.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 10:05 PM
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This is the best comment. I wish I had money to award you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 10:04 PM
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You'll take that woman yes. But then take her for granted and treat her badly and feel you settled later
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 10:03 PM
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Men also treat attractive mean women much better over a long period of time than attractive nice women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 10:01 PM
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Men take the woman with pudge because they're desperate then degrade her or feel they settled after locking her down
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 10:00 PM
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False. I've been at a healthy BMI my entire life and have been nitpicked by men. Also men on this forum have called me fat for being AT A HEALTHY BMI. Men care about body shape than body weight more. The body shape they lust after most is not naturally attainable for the vast majority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 09:59 PM
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That's odd. I lost my sex drive over time when my exes were selfish jerks. It was difficult to get aroused at the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 09:58 PM
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They want them but treat them badly or take them for granted over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 09:57 PM
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For securing a relationship yes. For being treated well herself over a long period of time it's a disadvantage
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 09:57 PM
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They will seek her out yes but treat her like crap or take her for granted over time. Men try harder longer for a slightly meaner good looking girl, not a "sweetheart or a woman who is really mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 09:55 PM
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I'm loving all the wholesome soul mate stuff from women here and pretty much all men responding don't. You are one of the better ones here and even you don't want forever
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 09:48 PM
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Its not in women's nature to stop wanting sex, but keep convincing yourself of that to make yourself the victim. What IS in women's nature most of the time is to not want sex with someone they arent happy with or when they are stressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 09:39 PM
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OP wants a good selfless amazing woman while he can be a selfish unempathetic jerk, so good luck with that OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 09:33 PM
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Your partner isn’t going to alleviate the stressors of reality on you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 09:32 PM
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"no matter what husbands do" LOLOLOL Yes there are SOOOOOOO many marriages where men pull their weight around the house, are an equal parent, who act like they care about their wife and pull their weight emotionally, who are being divorced by wives. You gotta be kidding me!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 09:30 PM
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Men behaviorally initiate divorce more than women. Your statistic is only measuring who files at the courthouse. Studies show men are MUCH more likely -to become complacent over time in a marriage -to ignore their spouse's warnings that their marriage is declining (then they claim they were "blindsided" later) -to refuse marriage counselling -to not practice whatever is learned in marriage counselling and only to go to appease their wife but not actually care about improving their marriage -not …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 09:28 PM
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No women dont think that. They stop being interested because men are much more likely to take their spouse for granted over time while women dont because they value their relationships more. And since most men view their spouse as a slave and not a person, most men know this is happening but still feel entitled to sex OR when their wife points it out they still feel entitled. But for the woman the sex becomes a chore.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 09:25 PM
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Its not familiarity. The average man becomes complacent and stops putting in effort in a LTR over time while women dont because they value relationships more. Hence women lose interest sexually. If men were good at marriage women would want to have sex with their husbands more.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 09:23 PM
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Men dont file for divorce out of laziness. The majority of men arent actually satisfied with their wife long term and really arent capable of it either.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 09:22 PM
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Most men should not get married and are not wired for it. However, they like the perks of marriage so they do it for that, then lose interest in their wives who want an equal and then just stay miserable and refuse to divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 09:21 PM
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Intimacy? I find most men dont care for that, they care about the actual sex then theyre done.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 09:16 PM
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Best comment here. But men who pursue younger women dont care about true love. They care about superficial things, being in control and having an obedient partner that can be manipulated more easily. Occasionally its because the man is super duper immature but usually its the first one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 08:55 PM
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I hear all sorts of non desperate, sane, reasonable, women say that so you probably have confirmation bias. I actually find the older men only wanting younger women usually have a TON of baggage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 08:55 PM
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" People will make the argument that women of a certain age are more likely to be grab any men to settle down with and this turns men into "beta bucks" (and this actually does sound somewhat reasonable)" I strongly disagree with this statement that I see written on this forum alot. Its a revenge fantasy driven by men. I am in my mid 30s and got married when I was 30.5 I have been an extremely social person up until COVID hit and have been known for being a "social butterfly" to everyone. I proba…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 08:49 PM
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They should date whoever they want. They out themselves so the other normal women can avoid them like the plague.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 08:45 PM
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Social media has been so good for my marriage. The sh** people write about their partners makes me so thankful I have my husband. He is not perfect but he is nowhere near as bad as many of the men and new fathers I see being written about. It also confirms I did the right thing for motherhood by being picky and waiting for the right man and waiting to be financially stable (more mature/age and more money are the biggest reasons I have done very well with motherhood)...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 08:44 PM
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LOL love it. Jonah Hill would absolutely not agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 08:41 PM
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Your examples are kinda confusing to me, maybe Im not interpreting this correctly. But I think "Men Love Bitches" for dating and initial LTR phases as these women are more exciting to them. However, men dont value them for actual marriage and LTRs. Most men nowadays still want an obedient servant wife for LTRs and marriages unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 08:38 PM
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I value the ability to reach a level of financial income/comfort to have a family. This "level" will be different for each person. Working full time, I make slightly more than the median income where I live currently, which is a pretty HCOL area. This actually is a decent accomplishment as I work in a field known for being overworked and underpaid. I just turned 35. I made the median income in my late 20s. For me personally, my ideal mate would make the same amount of money as me. If inflation w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 08:36 PM
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They find the equivalent of themselves in their partner. You say your equivalent isnt into you but I think you havent met the right woman (who is like you) yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 08:31 PM
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No, marriage SHOULDNT be more work for women. Its something BOTH people should bear. If your wife is working like you and doing so much childcare and housework they are too exhausted for sex, you are a sh** husband if you dont try to help. If thats a man's attitude women should be divorcing them more and Im glad they are due to this. I'm sure you'd change your tune if you were the one bearing the weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 08:27 PM
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Most men really arent worth the energy when you examine their character and personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 08:12 PM
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Thats not a good analogy because women dont just go for the most beautiful man. Only men are that obsessive with looks. Women consider looks but arent as harsh. Women weigh other things more heavily though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 08:11 PM
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They have to uphold it to survive and they are also brainwashed and arent exposed to much else. They dont know any better. People in North Korea uphold all the crazy sh** going on there for the same reasons. If those women moved to the US and were integrated most of them wouldnt act that way. Hence why my BIL who is a divorce attorney says at any given time 50% of all pending divorce cases on the court docket are green card marriages. Women come here and get a taste of freedom then say peace out…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 08:05 PM
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The men would. The men view women as their slaves and they dont care about them as humans. So glad women dont put up with this crap anymore. There are 3 types of people in this world: Givers, Takers and Matchers. Giver men dont struggle with modern dating or at least getting women. Although I worry for them because theyre likely to be taken advantage of. Matcher men may complain but if they keep trying they wont struggle and will succeed eventually...because they match. So when they get into a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 08:02 PM
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"Women are only selecting for men they want and choosing to be alone if they can’t get them" I would change this from "men they want" to "men who are overall a net positive" Long term relationships have always been a net negative for the majority of women. Its only been recently that women have been allowed to not accept this and hold out for someone at their level or someone who is a net positive addition to their life. Women arent getting pickier. They are holding men to the same standards tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:59 PM
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Men think a wider % of women are fuck-able. Genuinely interested in her as a person? No, in fact I think men are worse than women when it comes to actual genuine interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:55 PM
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Men dont actually like 20,000 of them they're just desperate or think they cannot get the ones they want so they cast a wider net. The more I read here the more I am convinced the reason so many men seem to not really like their partners that much is because they take whoever they think they can get. They do this because they cant get who they actually desire/want.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:52 PM
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The lost of interest is usually due to the relationship declining or the woman being too overwhelmed since married women take on more work (kids, housework on top of working)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:50 PM
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Yep see my comment above.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:51 PM
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I was a SA victim when I was younger and filing a police report was the worst thing I ever did. If I could go back in time I honestly would have never reported it. Feminists today would HATE ME. Because I am the anti Report It To The Police girl. I got a rape kit done and nothing happened anyway. If I hadnt reported it, I would have gotten over it eventually and been mentally healthier. I would have told a few people close to me I could trust, seen a therapist and move on with my life. But since…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:48 PM
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And men doing that too here bud. Its called being human and this thread is about IDEALS.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:41 PM
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Yeah this is why so many men are terrible husbands!!! and at best just indifferent over time... and women need to divorce...most men arent really happy in monogamous relationships. They end up with a woman they feel they "settled" for (though most of the time their wife is on their level or better than them lol) so they can get SOMETHING at least. I honestly dont understand why men bother getting married, the vast majority are simply not wired for it. Nothing a single woman does will be enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:40 PM
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I agree with this. I shit on other people's poor character, particularly aspects that negatively affect other people, but not mismatched personalities or lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:26 PM
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Interesting you always blame women for not "picking better" yet Ive never seen you write the same for men ending up with bad women?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:32 AM
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for doing nothing at all? If you think SAHMs do nothing all day long you're just a plain misogynist and should stop talking. Go visit some other woman hating forums on reddit for your support, there are plenty of them on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:30 AM
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SAHMs dont complain about it, its the working women who are expected to still do ALL of the traditional stuff that are complaining- working women who are still the maid, chef, default parent/childcare giver, household planner and organizer (yes that takes time). I literally know NO stay at home moms who really complain other than an odd day here or there where their children acted out of control all day, you're creating an issue where this is none.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:28 AM
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Love this comment, good luck getting men here to understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:26 AM
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Ding ding ding. Add she must work like him plus work harder to upkeep her looks and thats the average marriage in my country.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:23 AM
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Nope, most men today expect a woman to work full time like him while still doing all the traditional housewife stuff, all the emotional labor and planning, and she cannot age like him/must work harder to maintain her looks. This is the reason why studies show married women are less happy than single women but the reverse for men. Marriage is more work for women, men get taken care of. What you write is a dynamic that really only applies to the top 5%, maybe 10%, wealthiest men. Less than 10% of …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:20 AM
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Why do men bother getting married? Statistically more married men cheat than married women also more married men admit to struggling with temptations of cheating than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:18 AM
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LOL most men I meet dont seem to care and dont hesitate to move onto another chick.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:17 AM
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Hate to break it to you bud, but husbands statistically cheat more than wives. Plenty of women wouldnt cheat. The problem is those women are often overlooked by men. They typically are women who are less obsessed with their appearance and image, are seen as too "boring" and "plain" by men to be invested in heavily and are less likely to be manipulatively agreeable in the beginning stages of dating (which is what men want)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:16 AM
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My BIL is a divorce attorney and he says this too. He says men initiate divorces behaviorally more and that women filing a friggin petition at a courthouse means nothing (a statistic quoted on here by bitter men to make themselves the victim) Men are behaviorally more likely to take their partner for granted/check out/treat their partner poorly They are more likely to be resistant to changing when their partner talks about it (and often will later claim to not even remember this conversations) T…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:15 AM
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Yep, its why I was insanely picky when deciding who to marry in my 20s. I had to wade through so much sh** to find my husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:11 AM
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No, I am in my early 30s and this dynamic is common among marriages I see. Men in my generation are marginally better than how their fathers were (however since they are marginally better they convince themselves that women are just demanding and they are truly equal LOL they are nowhere near equal in the weight they pull compared to their wives)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:10 AM
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The funny thing is roles reversed the woman would JuSt Be LAzY
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:09 AM
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Yuck, no wonder so many women dont want men nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:08 AM
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No women are always blamed and told they need to pick better. Woman complains her husband is borderline abusive: weLl YoU pICKeD hIM Man complains his wife is borderline abusive: Women suck + various emoijis and everyone agrees with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:08 AM
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LOL the men that take advantage are very average looking and often quite dull in personality compared to their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:06 AM
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No, this replier is right. Whenever a man treats a woman badly it is ALWAYS "you should have picked better" I very rarely have met women that have dramatically changed unless you got married young. You are just like all the other women in your situation (who just get told to "pick better next time") who had rose colored glasses and missed the signs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:05 AM
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It is the norm still though. And most women share repeatedly they arent happy, men just ignore it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:04 AM
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This sounds exactly like my parents. My Dad is GOOD compared to other Dads around his age with kids around my age. " Males get destroyed by divorce because In marriage, they get everything take care for them and they don’t notice it until after the wife is gone." Yeah and this is why studies show married women are unhappier than single yet vice versa...marriage is ALOT of work for women even more so now with being expected to work full time, do all the emotional labor and all the traditional wif…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:03 AM
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Cab driver High status millionaire has so much other crap you have to deal with (not just the potential for him to sleep around which Im sure will be the focus of many here...) I dont relate to extremely rich people. My hobbies are gardening, reading, doing DIY projects, some working out, cooking and video games. Why do I need to be married to a millionaire? Let me be an average woman in peace thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:01 AM
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You'll find her. My husband was like you. I didnt care his inexperience was from working hard one bit. I actually found it refreshing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 01:57 AM
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Nah you'll find her and screw it up because of your baggage. Ive seen this sort of thing happen too many times to count. Man relentlessly complains women just use men have all these terrible qualities then he meets one who doesnt and he treats her like crap, either immediately or slowly over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 01:56 AM
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with this kind of tender, sweet, tentative innocence The women who offer this are seen as "boring" and "too available" for men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 01:55 AM
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Women care, we just dont openly talk about it in an obvious sexist way the way men do. OLD apps are ripe with men with way too much baggage to be in a healthy mutually beneficial relationship. When I was 25, my aunt said I was "too mature" for men my age and told me to date men in their 30s. So I heightened my age requirement and did date some men between the ages of 32-35. They all had SO MUCH baggage and it was a massive turnoff. Sorry you picked a woman who cheated on you or did something els…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 01:52 AM
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Nope, my history of exes says otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 01:50 AM
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Because men dont want nice women to know this. Nice women just get used by men and arent really appreciated. Most men will take advantage of a nice woman over time while really desiring other women. If nice women know this then theyre off the market no longer available to be used by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 01:50 AM
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" To be treated like a woman simply means to be treated like a princess, to be spoiled, to be paid for, to be protected, to be the small spoon, to be praised during sex, and what have you..." Ive never been treated like that nor would expect to, so your post is pointless to me. The one that I can say I have experienced some is the small spoon but the man has also been the small spoon. What you write is not my experience as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 01:48 AM
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Not really. I wouldnt say they are "filled" But thats your perception because you're a harsh bitter person.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:29 PM
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Using social media to make a point is a bad thing. The only women on Instagram who do that are women obsessed with their appearance who are vapid. So this confirms men really ignore the average woman they say they dont ignore, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:28 PM
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No, its because men dont think being contacted only for sex and being treated poorly is an issue. Men think we should be grateful for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:27 PM
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I see more complaining about basic decent behavior and basic emotional intelligence, plus managing men's expectations of women to work full time while still doing all the traditional feminine work. I used to feel differently but now I kinda understand why some women want a provider where they can have kids and have the option to not work. Because if the woman works, she will still do everything else anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:24 PM
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False it affects routine reproductive healthcare and also affects miscarriage care too. I had an ectopic pregnancy not long ago- for a WANTED pregnancy... I am now pregnant with my 2nd child so this was months ago. Thank the friggin lord I dont live in Texas and live in a blue state. When they figured out it was ectopic (they are life threatening) I immediately got the care I needed. Women in red states arent. In LIFE threatening situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:23 PM
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Actually abortion bans affect reproductive healthcare just as much as abortion (One of my biggest issues with it!), which indirectly affects sexuality (people in red states are changing their sexual behavior due to this, dont blame them, I wouldnt want to accidentally get pregnant in a red state or god forbid have a miscarriage needed for medical reasons for a planned pregnancy)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:21 PM
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This, the amount of men off of OLD apps who wanted the first date to be at their apartment *facepalm*
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:19 PM
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OP this sub is very biased. I dont take this sub seriously. Its my reality TV. My favorite dating sub is /r/datingoverthirty Also /r/marriage /r/relationships /r/relationship_advice Although you probably wont like them because those subs have more rational reasonable people (although maybe people with a lot of baggage or personal issues) that wont go "All women suck!" Also women just dont post here. Why? I havent been here long and Ive been called fat many times for BEING AT A HEALTHY WEIGHT (RI…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:17 PM
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Oh no dont point out their contrarian statements! LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:09 PM
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The problem is that most women are into douchebags that only care about getting off themselves Unfortunately alot of these men dont have DOUCHEBAG tattooed on their forehead and it comes out...much later. Quite frustrating. At least in my experience people put on a facade. Its the reason why I think people who get engaged prior to at least a year of dating are insane. Between 3 months-1 year is when the "real them" comes out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:07 PM
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Im jealous. I had the opposite problem where they refused to do it to me (a woman) but expected me to do it to them (the man).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:05 PM
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Yeah messages of men just wanting sex because theyre desperate. Not men who actually like them. Desperate men on OLD apps who literally message anyone because they are so freaking desperate. Podcasts over exaggerate things and the people on them are heavily biased. I dont consider anything I hear on a podcast applicable to my actual life. The woman on that podcast is probably lying anyways. Im sure the podcasters know this but it supports their skewed biased viewpoints so shes a perfect guest. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:49 PM
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There is probably true alot but there are exceptions. I am an exception. I think the same applies to men with pretty much all female friends though theres exceptions to that too. My husband was cheated on by a past girlfriend. He is very sensitive to this kind of stuff. Even he admits I am an exception to this. I am a pretty blunt and the least fake person you will ever meet. When I dont like someone I will just literally stop talking to them. I dont "play nice" or "act like a bestie" to their f…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:14 PM
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Nope. The men I had sex with a gave them a friggin manual! Didnt help. Alot of men will do it in the beginning...they become complacent over time. Its not an overnight thing either its gradual. Also many men after I graciously gave them the friggin manual and overcommunicated probably in what I liked, they would argue with me and tell me what I liked LOL. Really weird behavior but whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:10 PM
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In half of states you are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:09 PM
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Most men would talk to the average women. Some would talk to them and be interested, others would talk to them but not be actually interested and use them for sex, their ego, until a better woman (one of the best ones) comes along.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 02:48 PM
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Rich men dont do that. Average joe will do that. Rich men dont need to do it for someone less attractive due to their options.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 02:47 PM
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They dont talk to women who fall under the category theyre describing. I agree, if they did their mind would be blown. Pretty much all the "average men" and "below average men" whining here also applies to "average women" and "below average women."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 02:43 PM
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No they dont. I have been friends with alot of women like this and they dont get attention. My roommate of 2 years would fall under this and was on every OLD app. She literally showed me her apps and messages and she very rarely got matches, likes and 99% of her (scant) messages were "Hey" I mean dude she PHYSICALLY showed me her apps for years at a time on a regular basis and she got NOWHERE near the amount of attention you all proclaim. I think she said one year she got 3 "hey" messages total …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 02:40 PM
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I 100% agree with your last paragraph, especially the middle sentence, most people in life are average but average people end up together because after getting to know each other they like each other (even though theyre not each others top pick). You are a breath of fresh air on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 02:39 PM
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Where do you meet these men? Can you send my way please the men who give random women money because theyre such hard simps? I've never come across that in the 8-10 years of intense dating I did off of OLD apps and I think I'd enjoy that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:22 AM
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Yes because matches on OLD apps means men are actually interested *facepalm* According to this forum the average man swipes without looking too much, this doesnt mean anything sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:19 AM
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Men would talk to more than 5-10 women but in actuality, would only genuinely desire maybe 5 women. The rest of the women he'd talk to but only for his ego and to string her along for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:18 AM
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100% agree with this. I dont buy this statement that men are attracted to a variety of women making themselves look more forgiving with looks. They are to a small % of women and the rest are just acceptable enough for what they call a FWB or "pump and dump" Some may use her as a "fill in" or "good for now" girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:17 AM
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You'd change your mind once you have money and women hotter than you have been involved with before are interested in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:16 AM
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HARD AGREE with this post. I want to kiss the OP. Men are hypergamous in that they are also always looking to trade up and are not the virtuous sex they claim to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:14 AM
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This advice is the same for plain looking and unattractive women too. Despite what y'all say they get little attention as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:14 AM
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Man you men only go for the absolute hottest women (absolutely you are doing this if the women you date off of there have 40 men thirsting after her). Thats your problem There are women on OLD apps who'd be interested in you. The problem is you arent interested in those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:12 AM
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Dude, tinder is a TERRIBLE way to evaluate yourself romantically. Please just throw this thought out of your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:11 AM
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It really depends on the couple. Past boyfriends cost me money. They had more expensive tastes than me (Im frugal and introverted) but wanted to split 50/50 of course. If I lived with them I'd need to hire help Im sure at some point because they were lazy with chores and likely would have been with childcare and a full time working woman cannot do it all. So instead of doing 50/50 with us both working full time, free, I would have needed to hire help. Also, past boyfriends had extremely high sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 10:53 PM
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What an unhinged view on the world. You must be a joy to be around IRL
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 10:48 PM
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Men can vet any woman they date. His options do not matter. Your post is unhinged quite frankly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 10:47 PM
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Ok, recently being downvoted to the heathens because my husband got a vasectomy. Apparently, its totally on the woman for contraception and even if the man agrees to a vasectomy, he is getting one because I want him to suffer and Im just doing it for revenge.
/r/MensRights14/09/23 10:46 PM
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Same as some of the female oriented ones. People have a good idea and take it too far and it just turns into flat out hating a group of people no matter what.
/r/MensRights14/09/23 10:16 PM
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Can you read? I said I was banned from two subreddits catering to women for sticking up for men. Edit: also was banned from FemaleDatingStrategy for this too.
/r/MensRights14/09/23 09:49 PM
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No, in fact Ive been banned from fauxmoi? I think and /r/beyondthebump for this reason. In beyondthebump there was a rare post of a woman describing her guy doing his fair share with a newborn and more than that...and the woman being entitled. I called her out on it and ended with "genders reversed I'd say the same thing a healthy relationship involves compromise and not one person being steamrolled" and I got called names and banned.
/r/MensRights14/09/23 09:44 PM
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Where?
/r/MensRights14/09/23 09:37 PM
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Lack of empathy
/r/MenSupportMen14/09/23 09:30 PM
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All other platforms cater to women. !!!?!?!?! Where? Theres a couple subreddits for women (filled with men who cant take that women have a support space). But all the general ones /r/askreddit is my favorite general one, lean towards female bashing more. Reddit as a whole leans misogynistic. I've lurked the female ones and never see violence advocated in them either. "you can lose your job, be ex-communicated by society, lose your family, access to your children" I definitely dont see any of tha…
/r/MensRights14/09/23 09:25 PM
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That subreddit is just like the woman-bashing ones on Reddit. Same thing just swap the genders.
/r/MenSupportMen14/09/23 09:10 PM
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Yes this replier is a huge one! He is really really ugly and hateful on the inside.
/r/MenSupportMen14/09/23 09:09 PM
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As a woman there are actually some things that affect men more negatively so I was genuinely interested in reading some things about that here- particularly focusing on parenting and the lack of mental health care/stigma of that for men. I have found some good posts with reasonable nonhateful men but yes, the majority of men here really just want women to suffer all the time and if they dont, they repeatedly insult you. I genuinely feel awful for any woman that has to interact with men that post…
/r/MensRights14/09/23 09:04 PM
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He agreed to it because he doesnt lack empathy like you. He doesnt view it as "suffering" its a decision to make especially if he wants to continue to have sex with me whenever he wants without the side effects of BC. His recovery on his worst day was 100x easier than the easiest day of my labors, so Im still the one who has suffered more physically overall too. You are just a bitter nasty man who is upset couples exist where its not the woman suffering 100% of the time because you hate women. T…
/r/MensRights14/09/23 08:59 PM
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No I didnt. We talked about it and he agreed to force me to go through another surgery after my history and to force me to deal with long term side effects from BC (especially because he likes having sex with me around my ovulation window) is inhumane. But unlike men here he is empathetic and he doesnt expect me to be the one to always compromise in our relationship. A healthy relationship involves two people caring about each others well being and feelings and not one person doing all the compr…
/r/MensRights14/09/23 08:56 PM
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Honestly get rid of alot of the men here. Alot of the men here, not all, are woman haters and severely lack empathy for women.
/r/MensRights14/09/23 08:53 PM
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Yes, it is so hard for men to deal with a nondoormat woman. Someone missed the empathy gene.
/r/MensRights14/09/23 08:52 PM
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I had one of those and it was god freaking awful. I'd rather go through childbirth than have one of those again.
/r/MensRights14/09/23 08:50 PM
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I had one of those and it was god freaking awful. I'd take childbirth over having one of those.
/r/MensRights14/09/23 08:50 PM
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A man who wont get a vasectomy after we are done having kids is a dealbreaker for me. Luckily my husband agrees with me. After going through hell physically with 2 unplanned c sections and one very bad pregnancy, no way am I doing another surgery for tubal ligation. As a woman it is also harder to get one than a man is to get a vasectomy. I have several female friends done with kids trying to get one and it is a huge hassle. Bill control pills have bad side effects for me. It also lowers my libi…
/r/MensRights14/09/23 08:47 PM
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Yes, women IMO arent as entitled in our society. They are more realistic about what they can attain, probably because we are used to be oppressed. I dont know any women IRL who regularly "shoot out of their league" like men on this forum obsessively talk about it, perhaps I attract more reasonable female friends than the men here encounter IRL. I have met WAY more men who do this though. In fact most men think they are settling when they get a girl in their league of looks, its only when shes OU…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 03:25 PM
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Nope, these men were average looking, average jobs, little friends or less than me, no hobbies other than porn and video games. The last 2 traits didnt become apparent until dating them for a bit. They expect this and criticize the woman when she doesnt act like this. All of my exes that i know of, the majority of which I have involuntarily told information about ( because i dont care enough to ask anyone) are still single or married to doormat women, where they belittle her alot and she makes e…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 10:48 PM
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I have been a social butterfly for most of my life and literally have never met a fat woman who only goes for thin men. But tons the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 09:56 PM
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Men have high standards too. They lower them for hookups not relationships. I'm so tired of reading only women are like this, it doesn't apply to men IRL. Men want a girl hotter than him, with a good job so he doesn't feel stress of providing. She also must be nice, supportive and accommodating...even when the male isn't towards her. She must be interesting too. Men get bored easily. But she cannot be too interesting or rich because then he's threatened. She must be honest and loyal too even whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 09:46 PM
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That's odd you've been attacked for that. The majority of men I've met want a woman with some sexual experience but not sleeping around, she must work and must not be anti maternal. I don't think you're odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 09:43 PM
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Anytime I approached a guy he was never into me but tried to exploit me. Most men take what they can get, so not a good strategy for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 09:41 PM
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Most men don't visually look better as they get older. That's a myth. Men are simply allowed to age, that's the difference
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 09:34 PM
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My longest was 22 years. But the sex that broke it was awful, so it started another one. Most men don't care about women's pleasure, at least when a guy breaks his dry spell he gets an orgasm from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 09:30 PM
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I've met men and women with very low or high body counts and tons more of each sex in-between. However, due to my personality, career and other life circumstances I've been exposed to lots of people very different than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 09:28 PM
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It's another thing in my life that has convinced me alot of typical male and female traits are due more to socialization rather than biological reasons. My brothers ex wife is the female version of my terrible typical male exes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 09:26 PM
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I'm dying at all the men here who think it's easy for women to find men who will gladly do their half of chores and that men who dont want to make it clear in the beginning theyre like that. So naiive. If you aren't like that, you're rare. The rest of your sex isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 09:21 PM
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That is true, but very often those relationships the women want marriage and the men don't, but won't break it off because they enjoy perks of a forever girlfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 09:19 PM
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I would be happy because I think I'm a good partner most of the time. Or at least i try to be. My husband is the only person who I've dated where I haven't had the thought that if we had kids I'd worry about the example my daughter would get for her later male relationships. Alot of men today have demeaning self serving views on women, And alot of that does not come out until they are comfortably in a relationship too
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 09:15 PM
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Bmi is a terrible indicator of health if someone is weightlifting. Professional bodybuilders are considered obese if they only look at BMI. If a woman is seriously weight lifting for several years her weight will go up. You should go off of body fat percentage instead if you weight lift. A year or 2 after I started weight lifting when I went in for my annual physical my primary care doctor commented that I looked fantastic and then seemed shocked when I gained 7 pounds on the scale
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 09:14 PM
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Fat men want thin women. Ive never met a fat woman who only dates thin men. I'm sure they exist but they're rare. My first sentence is common
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 09:07 PM
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I've always been a thin woman, ranging from borderline underweight to the upper end of a healthy BMI. Most of the time in the middle. The majority of my exes expected me to be thin and remain that way but not judge them if they're not. In fact, even when I was borderline underweight they expected me to be thinner. Not to mention a laundry list of other traits. Being thin is just one of many ways men weed women out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 09:05 PM
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Yeah and women often never are that to their man too, even when dating. Women have feelings too. The average coupled man frequently uses Onlyfans, porn and checks out other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 01:21 AM
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Women can fall in love with a man she didn't think was attractive at first through his personality, I honestly cannot think of a case in the reverse...it doesn't happen the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 01:20 AM
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Why do I know so many beautiful women married to average looking men where they make the same amount or near the same amount of money then?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 01:19 AM
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Heck no, men nowadays want a ton of curves as seen in women who regularly weightlift, (or get surgery) she must be thin AND curvy. Weightlifting gives the ideal WTH ratio with a nice butt. Average woman cannot meet this high standard without exercise. Ive always been thin. Got WAY more attention when I started weightlifting and I did not look bad before. Also I hate to say this since I think I look fine without makeup, I got so much more attention spending 30-45 minutes a day styling my hair and…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 01:13 AM
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It isn't high for most men to date you because most men can be realistic about what they can get, but their standard for what is ideal so they're not "settling" is high.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 01:11 AM
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Both sexes care about more than looks, however women don't weigh them as heavily as men and more women are more willing to give someone a chance if they don't fit their looks standards in the beginning. Men don't go "ehh not sure I'm attracted" then fall in love through her personality
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 01:10 AM
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Okcupid in 2015
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 01:07 AM
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Yes, men's hobbies are sports and video games, while they think women's hobbies should be cooking and working out, because they don't want to be responsible for cooking and value looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 12:53 AM
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Meaning the relationship has to be on your terms all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 10:10 PM
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Anything that isn't sports or video games for men really. Which really weeded out alot. Alot of men want you to be into those for selfish reasons. so they arent forced to do things they dont like. Bonus points for music, cooking, gardening, hiking or reading. Im really not picky outside of just not wanting sports and video games to be their only hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 09:48 PM
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Can attest to this. I wasn't into casual sex when younger because it wasn't fun. Most men aren't very good in bed in general, the rate of men who is your casual partner being good is abysmally low.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 09:46 PM
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I'm repulsed by manwhores or men in general with no standards but perhaps I'm weird. Also, people in college are dumb. You expect too much maturity from someone that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 09:43 PM
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Men are only for the biology argument when it suits them. The draft is one of the cases where it doesn't, so they hate the biology argument then. You can send my 5 ft 3 130 lb butt to combat but I'm not going to be helpful...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 09:20 PM
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Yes, for hand to hand combat, men are going to win almost always. They are Naturally Advantangeous physically. Men here don't want to admit that, if women were drafted into that a good chunk would die. But war today is rarely hand to hand combat so I'm for the draft for both sexes though I'm in general anti draft at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 09:17 PM
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The original replier said it well. Most men arent as active as a parent as their woman, yet women are expected to work like them, most men dont support women keeping up their hobbies and life outside of motherwood the way women are expected to for men, men dont go through the pains of being pregnant, giving birth and breastfeeding during the young years. In fact women do that but are expected to "bounce back" quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 05:32 PM
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have a partner who is an active parent and who supports her in keeping up her career/hobbies/life outside of motherhood and who acknowledges and respects the enormity of the sacrifice and toll pregnancy/childbirth/breastfeeding take on her
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 05:30 PM
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I see mothers around me and 9 times out of 10 I think 'thank god that's not me'. The 1/10 women that don't make it look like my worst nightmare are the ones that are very well off economically, have adequate support from their family, have a healthy child, have a partner who is an active parent and who supports her in keeping up her career/hobbies/life outside of motherhood and who acknowledges and respects the enormity of the sacrifice and toll pregnancy/childbirth/breastfeeding take on her. An…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 05:07 PM
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If the single mom isnt a b**** and isnt ugly, she wont have issues getting a date. There will be less options but its not hopeless. Only the Internet says that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 05:02 PM
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If you wait until you are financially stable and dont live spending excessively, kids are affordable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 05:00 PM
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"Many men here claim that women are foolish or irresponsible because they sleep around when they are young but when they are in their thirties they suddenly want to have kids but it is too late because they are no longer young and fertile" I have met a very small % of women who do this. Most of my girlfriends have always been "relationship" women. I have had a few sleep around for short periods of time but always on the lookout for a relationship. However, I dont hang out at bars, clubs, etc. so…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 04:52 PM
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There aren't that many men who don't participate in these unrealistic standards, if women didn't marry men like this there'd be an astronomically low rate of marriage in general...I do agree with you, but it ain't easy to find a guy not like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 04:34 AM
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I'm sure your reply only applies to male incels
/r/MensRights20/02/22 08:56 PM
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I want to see this study because there are so many that show women bear the brunt. I bet its one not done well and has obvious flaws, and youre cherry picking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 06:23 PM
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"What a shit deal" Truer words have not been spoken.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 05:57 PM
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They don't, hence the 70% divorce rate initiated by women in my country 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 01:12 AM
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Yeah and what happens after that? The men just start magically doing it? Most dont, they just dont do it and complain. Some men start becoming very unhappy because they feel entitled to it and the relationship starts to deteroriate. I had a friend that did that and they ended up in marriage counseling.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 08:34 PM
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I agree, I dont find women refusing to do it always results in the hoped for positive change in behavior though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 08:33 PM
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All of my exes seemed kind, mild mannered and reasonable in the beginning. Usually starting a couple months after we became an official couple, they started changing their personality. They started expecting me to do what they wanted all the time and to agree with them, refused to compromise on anything, wouldnt ever admit they are wrong and would insult me. They would never allow this behavior from women though and many of them made fun of women they knew, who observing these women, my exes act…
/r/MensRights17/02/22 08:27 PM
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men still work longer hours, have longer commutes and are largely expected to be responsible for most of the financial aspects in a relationship None of the studies I have read include the examples you listed as childcare or housework. It includes cooking, cleaning, laundry, buying groceries/household items, vaccuuming, planning and organization (most women buy gifts for their husbands family members, lol) restocking. It includes any childcare (their laundry, food, cleaning for their area/things…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 08:17 PM
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Thats fine, you can go through my history to find whatever you can to deflect that you have a pretty terrible dynamic with your gf, and she must have self esteem issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 08:03 PM
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Literally nothing you said makes sense except your 2nd to last comment. This forum frequently states there are female incels. They think FemaleDatingSyrategy are incels. Nonincels commit mass murders yes, but incels have also done that. Male ones, not female ones. No incel has ever abused a partner- what a bald faced lie and sad little world you live in. Women can abuse men as well too. But youre acting like only women abuse. No, Im not anti muslim.
/r/MensRights17/02/22 08:02 PM
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LOL, Im not married to a bum. He has a good job and is a hard worker. And a virgin man isnt a loser either. Ironically, hes better in bed than guys I dated who stated to me they had experience, plus as long as he satisfies me why should I care? Hes also had other women interested in him, so I highly doubt hes a loser. Yes I do respond to mensrights. Its more for entertainment and to pass time, occasionally Ive had reasonable conversations with men over there. A pickme does describe a certain att…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 07:53 PM
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This, and then when her kids are in school she is back to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 07:33 PM
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Most men expect a woman to cook and clean while working, or else they are "settling."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 07:32 PM
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Just add working into that mix and thats marriage for women, at least in the USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 07:30 PM
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"Traditional-minded men aren't exactly on an uptrend as far as I can tell but every now and then there are women complaining about us wanting them to return to being "bang-maids". Which men are these?" The majority of men. The majority of men nowadays want a woman to live with who splits money 50/50 so they are relieved of the provider obligation, some women do more than the man even. The woman usually works full time. If she doesnt, its only when they have small children then she goes back to w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 07:28 PM
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Appreciation is not the key- most men expect it alot but dont dish it back. None of my single female friends have issues in this department.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 07:23 PM
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"Last thing I need is some clown ass chick acting coy as if I can't find a replacement in a heartbeat. My girl was shocked when we had a break at the start of the pandemic at how fast I was able to find other women willing to give it a go. Yeah, they were nothing compared to her as a human being but they very much passed the looks threshold. A "Chad" can replace quicker than you think" ​ Whoa, hope she finds her self respect and isnt back with you! If she is, she is kinda pathetic, a "pickme" Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 07:23 PM
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Thats going to be very difficult- this woman has a mindset of a man and men dont settle in looks, most of them want someone better than them, they are WAY less likely than women to consider dating below in looks, in fact they prioritize it over more important traits. She would need to have awesome character, a really captivating personality and probably be richer than most other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 07:15 PM
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Most men dont like it when a woman is more educated and smarter. She needs to have that enough to contribute, not to outshine him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 07:10 PM
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Similarly guys have shown to be pretty looks oriented themselves (I don't care what she does as a hobby/ job so as long as she gives me sex and is cute) Nope, men are looks oriented and care about her hobbies and job. Maybe 5% of men are like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 07:09 PM
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What a reasonable answer ^ Most people are genetically blessed enough in those areas to meet man's standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 07:08 PM
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"prioritize people with good values and fundamental principles." There arent too many of these left I guess. " You will never be happy chasing shallow people unless you yourself are shallow. " Ding ding ding, why dating in my 20s SUCKED.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 07:06 PM
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I didnt get that impression from what you wrote "I'd say the same if a dude was bitching about new female contraceptive." The men in this sub say their side effects are worse than the womans. Yes, men have contraceptive is a good thing. It would eliminate the women trying to have happy accidents (I know that does happen, just I dont believe it is to the extreme posted in this sub). It also would lead to (yet again a small %) of men telling their wife they want a kid when they dont and continuing…
/r/MensRights17/02/22 06:59 PM
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Most succinct way to put it!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:56 PM
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Yes, I love my partner. He is the best decision Ive ever made. He was worth all the BS I had to put up with to find him. I love that he is -intelligent, hard working (but not to the point to neglect our relationship and our daughter), -goofy, witty, -appreciates what I bring to the table, appreciates my hobbies that do not interest him and lets me partake in them, rare in men IMO - he views money as "our money" and feels he has properly vetted me/trusts me enough for that, rare in men IMO -he co…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:50 PM
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Youre right its not true, Im married to someone who defies this. The problem is studies do show that women have a lot of crap to put up with and finding a man who doesnt perpetuate these is rough. You know how many men I had to go through that had higher standards from me than they themselves admitted theyd bring to a relationship? Alot (Either directly by them saying they wouldnt or showing it through their behavior. ) He was worth all the BS I had to endure but some women dont get as lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:42 PM
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I think a majority of romantic relationships involve emotional abuse. The number of people who are deliberately cruel to or controlling of their partners is staggering. It’s pretty normalized tbh Yes, its sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:14 PM
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"I think we can have a balance here where we don't shame partners who leave toxic marriages but we shame partners who give up too easily and don't honour the commitment they made especially if they have kids." YES No fault divorce is fine, all it takes is for one person to not want to be married and I dont think people need to state a reason really.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:13 PM
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Men are judged for showing their emotions more- one double standard that hurts men that I fully believe in.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:11 PM
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Alot of my thoughts are backed up by studies. Studies show men place a higher preference on looks and sexual attractiveness in a marriage partner than women. Studies show men are given way less flack for becoming more unattractive as they age. Studies show men almost ALWAYS pick women that put effort into her appearance (I HATE men that say they dont like women who wear makeup, their actual dream girl never fits that, they just expect a woman to look flawless when she rolls out of bed. So many s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:06 PM
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"say I’m a woman who’s unhappy with the amount of domestic chores I have compared to men" They dont take into account the "other side" from the man because most of the time its an excuse. When people work the same amount of hours, theres no reason why the woman should STILL be shouldering that burden. Very rarely this will happen because the guy works insane hours, 99% of the time its not, its the guy being selfish. Go to r/relationship_advice and /r/marriageLots of posts about men with lazy wiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:00 PM
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the fact that most, like most guys really, don't have particularly noteworthy scholastic, professional, romantic or physical achievements of their own. I 100% agree with this statement. I think both genders are culpable of expecting their partner to have higher standards than they bring to the table themselves. I actually have met a few women who I think have bonkers standards and are very selfish, but they are more in the minority IMO (this includes my ex sister in law and 2 childhood friends) …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 05:53 PM
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You do know incels commit mass murders right? No female incel has ever done that.
/r/MensRights17/02/22 05:49 PM
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Hypergamy isnt a thing- Probably 1% of women dump a great relationship to go after a man who makes more money. Most women doing that are already done with their relationship anyway and are just using money as the reason when its not. Men act like they are reasonable and will date any woman in the beginning, once you get in a relationship with them, thats when their expectations are higher than what womens are. So thats the flaw with your matchmaker example. Pretty much all of my very selfish, di…
/r/MensRights17/02/22 05:46 PM
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My husband was my 10th relationship. Character and personality were the ONLY reasons I dumped anyone. Ive literally never dumped a man over his looks. If Im agreeing to date you, Im attracted to you. once I dated a guy who states he had a small penis (I didnt really know, was young and inexperienced) I dumped him because he had very degrading views on women and refused to compromise on anything in our relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 05:43 PM
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It depends on the argument, sometimes it is "men caused by other men" sometimes its "men caused by other women" and (expected to be downvoted to the heathens) sometimes its "women caused by other men"
/r/MensRights17/02/22 05:37 PM
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Its true for really any crime where most of the evidence is "he said, she said"
/r/MensRights17/02/22 05:36 PM
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Ok... -dont use strippers then (my god that mention is SO idiotic) -get 50/50 custody to lower your child support -Are you kidding me about Vday? Most men barely do anything regarding spending money on that. The only men that do that are men dating a girl whom theyre trying to impress. After 1 year of dating, that goes out the window.
/r/MensRights17/02/22 05:35 PM
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Ok, so dont die then? (Before you hate- you'd tell the same to a woman with the roles reversed. You'd say "stop putting yourself in the circumstances where you die earlier" lol)
/r/MensRights17/02/22 05:34 PM
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All of your examples dont apply to my country, so your bitted jaded attitude doesnt apply. There arent any laws that really consistently benefit women nationwide. Most courts now favor 50/50 for child custody now. I know women whose ex husbands are drug dealers and multiple convictions for assault and drug offenses where their exes have custody. If a man doesnt have 50/50 custody its likely due to another factor (not hiring a lawyer when the woman did, they hired a terrible lawyer, they live too…
/r/MensRights17/02/22 05:33 PM
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Hypergamy isnt a thing. There arent enough decent quality men for women to even hypergamy to.
/r/MensRights17/02/22 05:30 PM
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You are jaded- next time pick a better woman. Thats what men say to women in your situation. Also most men want a slave as a partner as well. Its human nature to be selfish.
/r/MensRights17/02/22 05:29 PM
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The wage gap isnt a thing, its extremely rare for a man and woman to be paid different wages for the same position. It can happen but again extremely rare. Its from men and women choosing different professions, women are socialized to accept lower paying professions often around homemaking, caregiving and compassionate jobs.
/r/MensRights17/02/22 05:27 PM
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Its still dumb to complain? LOL. Youve missed the empathy gene. Just another male who exaggerates the man's concerns and minimizes the females.
/r/MensRights17/02/22 05:25 PM
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I really like this woman's answer. I'd also add the woman being to default parent because women are just naturally better at being a parent and women not being praised as good mothers for bare minimum childcare work the way men are. I dont agree that women are naturally better, women are socialized to try harder to be better. Plenty of men make fantastic dads when they actually put in the effort to learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:40 PM
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There are many studies showing women still bear the brunt of housework and childcare when both people work full time. Whats even more saddening, studies showing this to be the case for when women work more and/or are the breadwinner (for men who state their better income gets them out of it).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:28 PM
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EXACTLY. When I was single and people would ask me why, I said most men I came across "the juice isnt worth the squeeze." Meaning the effort I was expected to put into a relationship is not reciprocated and they want this to be the status quo. Finding a relationship that benefits my life and ideally, one that makes me even want to improve myself is rare IMO. I found alot of men expected me to be the catch and them to not be, or they had expectations of me they couldnt reciprocate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:27 PM
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Also men replacing porn over female interaction and men being unwilling to commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:26 PM
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United States
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:03 PM
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I didnt pick a wrong man. I'm happily married, but I had to go through several awful men like you to find him. Most women I see married settled for sure. Hes a rarity. No, the vast majority of men do not care. Im done responding to you now.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 06:57 PM
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Men arent invisible. There arent many good men. Men like you say that because youre bitter women want an equal and wont put up with toxic BS. You sure as heck arent one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 06:49 PM
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Men never care about womens issues, even when they have a daughter. Excess of choice is not the main problem women deal with, that podcaster is an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 06:43 PM
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Hmmm no, what I typed above is standard. I have a large group of friends, 10 couples, I interact with regularly. Me and one other couple dont have this setup. The other 8 couples have a setup like this. It turns into a bitchfest when I hang with the girls. Most of the men are nice guys, theyre just lazy. A couple of them can cook and do sometimes, but they dont want to do it everyday. In the USA its still accepted that these tasks are the womans duty even when she works. A woman is judged much m…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 06:27 PM
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Ehh marriage rates have gone down in general. The ones that are desperate, Im not sure Id actually use that word, its just convenient for them- its just because they want a maid, cook, someone to split rent with and sex when they want. And they can have kids where the woman does the hard work and he just gets to play with them and be the fun parent. If he does the bare minimum of childcare hes "Dad of the Year." They also can let themselves go more since men are judged less for it. There are so …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 06:14 PM
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Well yeah, the vast majority of men are selfish, at least too much so for a good relationship for the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 06:11 PM
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You said men cheat because their wives gain weight. Low value men cheat too. Really men just in general cheat, no matter what characteristics they have, there is a small % of men with good morals who wont. I held out for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 06:07 PM
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My highschool boyfriend didnt want to, my college boyfriend had ED problems and there were sexual issues, he couldnt physically get in me for the few times he didnt have ED problems. After that it took awhile to even find another relationship (I generally didnt have sex until I was in a relationship, or close to it at least) Its not for me, but live and let live. I generally do. I also know in some circumstances its not. I didnt have a preference other than not losing it to a total manwhore. A v…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 05:36 PM
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Less woman are marrying now, they are getting smarter.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 05:23 PM
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Men do this as well. The number 1 sex complaint from married women is lack of foreplay (how most women orgasm)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 05:21 PM
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Huh, most of the married cheaters I know have thin or healthy weight wives with nice personalities and dont refuse sex, what a little world you live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 05:20 PM
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I waited for a better man who I was attracted to. I got married at 30.5 years old, he was 32. Worked out well for us. I dont agree women put up with toxic behavior. Thats a good portion of that 70% divorce initiation rate, which alot of men dont want to admit. A lot of women initiate divorce because the man simply wont, men will stay in an unhappy marriage for its perks that benefit him and fear of financial ruin, but he doesnt want to act like a normal man who cares about her. Second shit hypot…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 05:16 PM
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Both sexes look out for their best interest, its as if its human nature and not due to your gender! *feigned shock*
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 05:02 PM
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Thank you ashpr0ulx for taking words out of my head. The only time I see the average man wanting a stay at home wife is with small children. But once they are back in school, if you dont start working again, you are lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 05:01 PM
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Who is blaming women for that? Men love this. It relieves them of the pressure and obligation to be a provider. I'd say less than 5% of men dont want women to be financially independent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 05:00 PM
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"All the dudes here saying I WOULD NEVER CHEAT will have a hard time saying that when they're 40 and the 20 year old secretary won't stop aggressively hitting on you" This may be hard for you to fathom, some people dont think like this in relationships due to morals and integrity. I had these fears in the past with wrong men I dated. They were misogynistic and I picked up on the signs. Your post is only relevant for those without morals/integrity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 04:58 PM
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For the same reason I'm adverse to men with high body counts: they are less trustworthy and are likely to have traits to make them less suitable for a good LTR. There are exceptions but I do find they are exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 04:49 PM
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100% agree with you. In our country right now, being feminine does not get you anywhere. Masculinity and femininity both have positive traits in them. I find most people show traits of each, no matter what gender they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 04:41 PM
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No I dont think theyre victims, if they are of consenting age. JF is a good actor but creepy AF.
/r/MensRights15/02/22 03:22 PM
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Funny story, I was dating a guy for a few months 10 years ago that said that to me. I was on the fence about continuing to date him due to his personality, but I was giving it time as I thought I maybe didnt know him well enough. He made a move on me and we had sex, then he said something the next morning that made me go "ok, my instincts about you were right" and ended it later that day. He was shocked and very upset, I actually felt a little bad for him. He also kept trying to be friends with …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:15 PM
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Depends on what the trait is- selfish, disloyal, mean spirited emotionally unsupportive boyfriends that demand selfless kind and loyal, supportive girlfriends are not fair. There are basic human decency requirements in a relationship, even more so if you expect your partner to be flawless in this area. I definitely waived interesting for other traits when dating. I did OLD mainly and I found it rare to find men that actually had hobbies other than sports and video games. If I didnt waive it I'd …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:09 PM
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Whelp, I'd avoid men with those harsh assumptions with a 10 foot pole. Just because you dont want to work 60 hours a week doesnt mean you have no ambition.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:05 PM
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Damage alert! Know several men who act like this and women that dont! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:04 PM
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Some? Those 2 were just in the last day. Yeah, I don't fully agree with their income requirements in the handbook. I don't think most of the posters do, in fact I see the opposite, they just want a man who can pay bills, not rich. In fact fds is a strong encourager of a woman being financially independent (which i like). So many posts say to focus on that more than men in general. You think just because a woman there wants the man to pay in the beginning before a relationship is established (whi…
/r/MensRights15/02/22 05:53 AM
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They don't. I used my grandmother's wedding ring, gave it to my husband for when he was ready (boyfriend at the time) I'd much rather something sentimental than expensive. None of my friends have rings that cost thousands. None of them picked their men based on money. They wanted them to have a job that can pay bills is all, picked them for lots of other things besides money. My friends they all work just as hard as their SOs. It seems men on here pick the hottest girl who happens to be material…
/r/MensRights15/02/22 05:46 AM
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Hmmm, no I know several average looking women who can't get any sexual attention even from men who would be rated objectively below them in looks. Incel men online exaggerate things. Maybe men should put in inward like women, less harming innocent people around them that way.
/r/MensRights15/02/22 05:44 AM
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Laziness can be. What is your definition of lazy?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 05:42 AM
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Oh dear, none of them were Chad's. The last one was an entitled quiet engineer. Seemed mild mannered and just a normal dude while dating, a wolf in sheeps clothing in our relationship. Chads annoy the f u c k out of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 04:02 AM
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I find just as many men have ridiculous standards as women. Tired of reading women have unrealistic standards and men dont.Many men want their partner to have this long list of attributes that they don't have themselves-above average looks, supportive, honest, kind, loyal, hard working, interesting. Above average looks is just one of many on the list. I find alot of men that expect this, dont have at least half of those traits...i have met so many average looking, boring (no hobbies other than v…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:50 AM
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Pretty much all my past partners who were selfish in bed continued after I bluntly told them how to pleasure me, at least after the honeymoon period is over
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:41 AM
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Lol these responses are hilarious. I have found a mix of hot and unhot men are selfish in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:35 AM
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Cautiontomorrow555 not so attractive men do that too...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:32 AM
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Oh men that are into casual sex hate you telling them how to please yourself another reason why f boys suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:27 AM
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Yep, I don't understand how this isn't common knowledge. Very few women experience orgasms from penetrative sex and most casual sex men view you as a masterbatory tool, don't care about your pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:24 AM
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Yes I would. I also found a guy who is an excellent example for my infant daughter growing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:23 AM
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Throwawaythis2020 damage alert!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:19 AM
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No. There are legal benefits to being married (I know several couples with this viewpoint that got married during the pandemic to get health insurance, that's just one example, also when i got in a bad car accidentmy husband made medicaldecisionsfor me) with kids its worse- awkward AF not being married my viewpoint personally. also imo most people that do this just want to make it easier if you want to break up in the future so it's fear based and sometimes a cop out to avoid commitment. If it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:15 AM
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This will depend on the type of man, not all men value looks above all else.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:12 AM
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I didn't like men that are rich usually when I was single for many reasons, top one being they are usually workaholics and one of my top Love Languages is Quality Time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:11 AM
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I didnt like promiscuous men when I was single. I turned one man down due to it and he got pissy with me. I think promiscuous people are less empathetic, value novelty too much, often manipulate to get what they want and aren't wired to appreciate the stability of LTRs and are more likely to sex attentionoutside of a relationship during normal LTR lulls. There are studies showing for both men and women, the more sexual partners you've had the less dopamine and oxytocin you produce. So effectivel…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:09 AM
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I'm very turned off by emotionally distant people in general. When I was single I wrote men like that off.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:06 AM
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For traits that are not toxic yes. Such as goofy, ambitious, introversion etc. You are more likely to have a partner stick thats a better match for you. If you have toxic traits such as laziness, entitled and mean spirited, improve yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:01 AM
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I've never met a woman who would make fun of the reverse gender scenario. This isn't a gender issue...
/r/MensRights14/02/22 08:36 PM
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You are a rarity. Most men expect the woman to do everything when they both work.
/r/MensRights14/02/22 08:34 PM
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I'm pretty sure doctors don't hate their patients
/r/MensRights14/02/22 08:33 PM
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After a paternity test you'll have to pay child support but don't have to be involved. Sex is always a risk. Birth control when used correctly doesn't always work either. This is one of the reasons im not a fan of casual sex and why when I dated if I didn't see a man long term I stopped dating him. Not worth the risk of being knocked up and tied to him.
/r/MensRights14/02/22 08:32 PM
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Most men support onlyfans and sex workers because it benefits them.
/r/MensRights14/02/22 08:29 PM
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The same argument is true for women too.
/r/MensRights14/02/22 08:28 PM
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No, the world would be a better place without a lot of men and women existing. Human nature sucks. There are few people who believe in decency in general. Guarantee half of these apparently overworked women would turn into tyrant psycho bosses if given a chance.
/r/MensRights14/02/22 08:25 PM
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The kids that bullied him should be charged. I hate bullies.
/r/MensRights14/02/22 08:23 PM
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this. Overly vain men are kind of annoying
/r/MensRights14/02/22 08:20 PM
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I'm probably a weirdo but big dicks hurt
/r/MensRights14/02/22 08:18 PM
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I've said that a million times about women and men still feel justified
/r/MensRights14/02/22 08:17 PM
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Oh dear lord there are more male incel forums than female ones
/r/MensRights14/02/22 08:17 PM
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Update: I DMed two men in this post who responded with links to another subreddit. One described a teenage boy buying his mother an expensive dinner or Mothers Day because his "mom does a lot for him" and another of a woman saying a man is high value that she trains with for martial arts because he encouraged her to not give up on her hobby when she started to lose interest in it and that a female doing it is badass. They both responded the teenage boy just did that because he "has to" and the s…
/r/MensRights14/02/22 07:02 PM
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Single people are losing today in the economy. Everything is so hella expensive and you need an education to get a decent job. Dual incomes are needed to raise a family nowadays. My grandparents didnt have to worry as much about this. My father paid for a lot of his college by working at Rite Aid, that wouldnt do anything now.
/r/MensRights14/02/22 06:50 PM
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Shes an idiot. Ive also never gotten out of a speeding ticket so I guess Im ugly AF even though plenty of people have called me attractive.
/r/MensRights14/02/22 06:48 PM
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BTW the 2 links I just forwarded you, I forwarded to 2 other men that responded to me here, they both responded the only reason these men were nice to these women is because they wanted sex or were told to (confirming most of the men who proclaim to be egalitarian on here, arent, they cant even agree with basic human decency). If you dont believe me, DM me and I will send you the screenshots.
/r/MensRights14/02/22 06:44 PM
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I DMed you a recent positive green flag post, since its not letting me post links here.
/r/MensRights14/02/22 06:32 PM
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Yes green flags are discussed there. Do you want specific examples? -Posters describing disagreements with SOs where they took accountability and came up with a plan to better communicate in the future -Posters taking 5 Love Languages with their SO to identify the best way to show love/appreciation for their SO -Posters describing SOs where when they became pregnant and sick, their husbands/boyfriends picked up the slack around the house and didnt make them feel bad they had to cut back on this.…
/r/MensRights14/02/22 05:36 PM
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"Why do so many men have bad breath?" "Don't trust your male friends." "lies men want us to believe "only a few numbers of men are bad, disrespectful, dangerous, cheating, gaslighting jerks. you just had the misfortune to meet a bad one, most men are good, kind and will not cheat or subject their partner to violence." The reality..." Adding to that is the fact they have a knack of calling undesirable men "scrotes" to dehumanize them and that they also use a bot to auto-ban anyone that comments o…
/r/MensRights14/02/22 05:22 PM
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Ok, so you are admitting society is sexist then. :)
/r/MensRights14/02/22 05:16 PM
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Welcome to being a woman. 😃😃😃 men are more likely to notice 5 lbs gained on a woman than vice versa. But any woman who says shit like this should be ignored
/r/MensRights14/02/22 03:06 PM
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Exactly how I feel about this forum, listening to bitter angry woman haters who will find a fault with you no matter what you say or do, no worries. 😆 I get hate messages for saying I dated virgins and didn't care they were one.
/r/MensRights14/02/22 02:01 PM
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Being a virgin is seen as weird nowadays whatever gender you are. But he doesn't have to care, he will find someone eventually who doesn't. You two are excellent examples of woman haters...I say something supportive and you insult me. "Pity me for my bad decisions" Did you hear what I said? I said Im HAPPILY MARRIED to a guy who when I met him, he was a virgin. Best decision ever to not care.
/r/MensRights14/02/22 04:01 AM
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Femaledatingstrategy is about weeding out toxic selfish manipulative men, the male versions of the women examples I see on this forum. They also place a high value on self improvement which i like. The majority of those posters don't set unrealistic standards. Very similar to that forum, men here nitpick the tiniest things blaming it on women...a few of their issues i dont agree with, im not a fan of is their verbage scrotes (but its a direct retaliation to the countless antiwomen forums calling…
/r/MensRights14/02/22 03:56 AM
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You are probably not as unattractive as you think you are, you sound way too hard on yourself.
/r/MensRights14/02/22 03:54 AM
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Ummm yeah I had a job once working with homeless people, there are women actually sleeping on the streets. The town I had this job in had not great social services set up though, both men and women shelters were overcrowded.
/r/MensRights14/02/22 03:08 AM
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I know many great male nurses.
/r/MensRights14/02/22 03:06 AM
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Yep, you're sexist.
/r/MensRights14/02/22 03:06 AM
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Yeah, your experience does not generalize to everyone. I know several women who acted like a nurse for an injured and sick SO and didn't get the same treatment back later...My lovely former boss developed a heart condition and needed treatment and was bed ridden for 6 months. She described the troubles it caused on her marriage, how when she asked her husband to help he just complained, and said she just needs to accept that men are more selish. Her husband is a police officer and apparently a f…
/r/MensRights14/02/22 03:04 AM
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Ehh I notice this in both genders. Comes down to personality.
/r/MensRights14/02/22 03:01 AM
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That's a certain type of woman. There are women out there that will work full time like you even while having children
/r/MensRights14/02/22 02:55 AM
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Ehh i know many women without fathers like that. They definitely aren't unconditional. I care about you. I'm a sucker for a guy with a good heart
/r/MensRights14/02/22 02:54 AM
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You clearly don't understand PUA, confusing that with human connection. There's nothing wrong with trying to initiate conversation with women. If they call that harassment they're idiots.
/r/MensRights14/02/22 02:52 AM
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I agree men should not skip contraceptive due to possible infertility problems. That is not intelligent. However I feel the need to say this because most of the men on this forum are very angry and bitter... I was once in a relationship where the guy would go through my purse without me there to make sure I took my birth control pill. I was on birth control from ages 19 to 30 for medicinal reasons. When we were in a relationship, he saw me take my pill every day at the same time, in fact I never…
/r/MensRights12/02/22 05:23 PM
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I am all for this, men get postpartum depression. Both genders get it.
/r/MensRights12/02/22 05:19 PM
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Whether or not someone is seen as a fuckboy or legend will depend on the type of people you hang around...go into the military or police force you'll be praised to the heavens. In my social circle you will be viewed slightly negative.
/r/MensRights12/02/22 05:10 PM
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Nontrollaccount, you should focus on finding better people...I know social circles that could care less a guy in his 30s is a virgin. Stop hanging around jerks.
/r/MensRights12/02/22 05:08 PM
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I hear your insecurity but my husband was like this and we are happily married. You can find a woman who shares your values and doesn't care. There's also inexperienced women your age too. You just need to find the right social circle.
/r/MensRights12/02/22 05:06 PM
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You guys miss the obvious point, significantly more women than men experience rape and DV. There are men that do experience it but the numbers aren't as high. There are also many male shelters where I live...
/r/MensRights12/02/22 04:58 PM
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You should go to the marriage subreddit where a woman posts her husband who has been cheating on her, is asking her to diet from a size 4 to 2, and people are agreeing with him.
/r/MensRights12/02/22 04:55 PM
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They aren't, they don't want equality. Feminism is equality, not setting up standards that benefit them. If men can be drafted so should women. I honestly don't know any feminists who disagree with what I just stated to you.
/r/MensRights12/02/22 04:50 PM
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Thank you around, one of the few reasonable answers. Later wave feminism is not actual feminism IMO. I got banned from a subreddit for saying that 😆
/r/MensRights12/02/22 04:46 PM
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Hmmmn I have met a ton of people in my life, even very conservative ones, it is very rare for a man that doesn't expect a woman to contribute financially. It's something angry men post about over and over on the internet but happens in less than 5% of couples I've met IrL
/r/MensRights12/02/22 04:41 PM
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Yeah? Pretty much all men I know irl have this opinion and filter women on this, they view a woman who doesnt work as a leech, the only exception is when there are small children. Then she should go back to work or else shes lazy. this is news to you? What rock do you live under? I swear the man on this forum live in a parallel universe.
/r/MensRights12/02/22 04:40 PM
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You should go to sosuave.net. they encourage men to find an awesome woman who meets their ridiculous standards then cheat on her because it's their nature
/r/MensRights12/02/22 04:38 PM
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Really nothing unless you're a good man. I don't need a man's money, I can support myself. I can use a vibrator or go to a sperm bank for sex and children. I guess i could do casual sex but most men dont care to try to care about the womans pleasure anyway. Emotional and intellectual fulfillment is friends. taking care of me when im sick? My family. My exes sucked at that but expected me to drop everything when they were sick. I went through 15 dating scenarios and relationships before I found a…
/r/MensRights12/02/22 02:45 PM
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I've never thought that. Problem is alot of these men, they're criticizing more than that and don't want to admit it. Op, the men I called woman haters frequently made comments that woman were only useful for looks or sex, that they see men as ATMs, assumed an extremely negative assumption about women from minor social interactions and had a list of double standards in their romantic relationships that benefit them. Do you do this? Be honest with yourself. I've met countless men that exhibit thi…
/r/MensRights12/02/22 02:40 PM
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I'm not angry, I just get amused at men who say this but then get pissy when the woman actually does want an egalitarian dynamic
/r/MensRights12/02/22 02:37 PM
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And vice versa. People call femaledatingstrategy an incel forum when it's a bunch of women complaining about male narcissistic pigs and users, and giving advice on how to filter out misogynists. There's also many posts and advice about green flags and how to tell when your partner respects you, with women listing examples of actual SOs. Lol I'm getting downvoted. Guess you all don't actually value female empowerment.
/r/MensRights12/02/22 02:34 PM
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I'm very happily married to one. Or at least he was one. I also lost my virginity older than average, 24, and many men prior used it as a reason to not be interested in me, so it ain't easy for women either.
/r/MensRights12/02/22 02:32 PM
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I've never met any person irl who thinks women can't rape. Its less common but happens. You've met a couple crazy women and generalize to all of them 😄
/r/MensRights12/02/22 02:30 PM
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Yes those are all examples. Those women aren't feminists. I don't agree with any of those points. I also don't know any feminists irl who have those viewpoints.
/r/MensRights12/02/22 02:28 PM
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I'm playing Devils advocate that it's a human thing. That is a great example of the same behavior in men in our country
/r/MensRights12/02/22 02:16 PM
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I assure you men are naggy assholes as well. Most men expect a cook and maid service when they live with you, even when you both work the same amount of hours and contribute the same financially, best example there for nagging. In fact studies show when the woman works more and is the breadwinner for a household, the burden of that still falls on her. I wont get into the asshole part, thats obvious. Also there are plenty of critical men that nitpick the crap out of everything you do.
/r/MensRights11/02/22 06:55 PM
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Men absolutely can be rape victims, and I despise women who hint that isnt the case or minimizes their feelings.
/r/MensRights11/02/22 06:36 PM
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Yes, its so awful to date someone who expects to be treated the way you wanted to be treated. Shudder
/r/MensRights11/02/22 06:35 PM
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Media does portray a stereotype of this. Media also portrays many stereotypes that benefit men more.
/r/MensRights11/02/22 05:48 PM
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Also, Ive experienced this double standard more in the reverse in my personal social circles: the man is given more leniency to cheat because hes a man who cannot help his biological nature, women who cheat can end up cuckolding their current husband and cause him to raise a kid thats not his. The stereotype is also women arent wired to cheat biologically, so shes worse if she does it.
/r/MensRights11/02/22 05:46 PM
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That literally has never ever happened in any of my social circles and Ive been around a lot of cheaters. The woman is always intensely judged and in fact, sometimes people will bring it up around her over and over years afterwards reminding her of what she did...pick better people to be around.
/r/MensRights11/02/22 05:44 PM
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Thats going to depend on who you are around. ​ My social circles make fun of domineering, overly bossy women who abuse their SO's. In fact, there are jokes flying around all the time when they arent around about how long it will take for their husbands to divorce them. Also the men Ive been around in the past, they would regularly say they will screw other women in front of their SO's and their SO's are expected to put up with it and to not dish it back. My current social circle does not have me…
/r/MensRights11/02/22 05:42 PM
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Stoning anyone to death for cheating, whether men or women, is ridiculous.
/r/MensRights11/02/22 05:40 PM
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Some are afraid of losing equal rights but some are afraid of women empowerment...those are men who are entitled and expect too much of women and like having the upper hand. Also, there are women who are entitled and expect too much of men and want the upper hand. Women who are not a fan of men having equal rights think they are superior, men who are not a fan of women having equal rights (and yes, many exist) think they are superior. Alot of man hating and woman hating is actually hating human …
/r/MensRights11/02/22 05:34 PM
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This, also any guy who does this is a prick.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/02/22 11:05 PM
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I think based on the bitterness and mental health of this forum, men here run the risk of finding a woman to have kids with that is the literal opposite of their first wife because they got smarter, and then ruining it with their attitude and resulting behaviors.
/r/Divorce_Men07/02/22 11:03 PM
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My sister said she would live in a dungy studio apartment without her pets, half time with her kid and would agree to be living paycheck to paycheck to keep her divorce amicable. Every time I see her, her soon to be ex husband has done something else and she tells me some new thing he is doing to try to manipulate her. Shes tired of the poor mental health effects and told me she is "emotionally exhausted." We all told her to get a lawyer when he asked for a divorce, but she was naive and didnt l…
/r/Divorce_Men07/02/22 06:35 PM
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Thats not female nature, thats human nature. If you are going to be bitter you should just do it for everyone. Men do this as well. Some people are just plain selfish and try to milk others. Actually, alot of people are like that, sadly. Ive observed men do this too. Child support legislation changed in the past decade alot with rules regarding self employment and reporting because so many men who could afford child support purposefully leave their job for under the table paid type work to skirt…
/r/Divorce_Men07/02/22 06:12 PM
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Only reasonable answer here.
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