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Question For WomenEmbarrassedClient283/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 07:56 PM
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First thing you have said that I actually agree with
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 06:53 PM
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Many men are probably equally uninterested by they don't have a choice because if you are not willing the other man will be, so it gets competed away
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 06:52 PM
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I don't believe you are able to define economic exploitation in a way that it makes it ok for American millionaire to date a young American woman who barely earns anything and for someone going to Colombia that dates a woman with a similar difference in their income. If you are saying that it is not ok to date if there is a large discrepancy in the income across the board then at least you will be logically consistent, but I don't believe you are saying that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 04:50 PM
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Let's just say that is very far from the ideal romantic relationship and the woman does seem to be using the man for his finances and the man probably gets a younger and better looking woman. But is it the case that the man is some sort of a predator? because to me the woman sounds just as guilty if not more
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 06:41 PM
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The woman is looking for a better life and let's say that without the man earning 300k she would not be with him. So you do believe that she shouldn't be allowed to do so? I mean not directly but perhaps by socially sanctioning the man which indirectly will mean that you don't support such women trying to better their lives
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 07:33 PM
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So is it also wrong for an American man earning 300k to date an American woman earning 30k? You could also say that the power imbalance in this case is very large
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 06:21 PM
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It is his mistake basically, don't upload photos of what you are doing to social media, that is a huge mistake and a good lesson for any men here
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 06:09 PM
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That is a strange interpretation of what is happening, a more accurate one is that they have learned how to play the game of oppression hierarchy that you folks on the left have created and they have used it to create a more oppressed class than women. In a society that values the oppressed, in order to gain value you need to belong to an oppressed class
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 07:51 PM
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what do you define as male privilege?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:05 PM
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What do you mean by well, there is treating well and there is being a doormat, I think #2 tend to be doormats
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 07:07 PM
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Why do you think you would want to be treated like a princess, it is quite possible that a man who will treat like a princess will just affirm in your mind that he is below you and you will lose attraction for him. It is much more likely that will prefer to be treated fairly but in a way that you will always feel in the back of your mind that the guy you are dating has options.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 07:05 PM
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I don't think the examples you have picked will help you to come to the correct conclusion, but ill go for woman A.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:57 PM
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Yeah you should do literally everything you can, I don't think there is anything more important than physical appearance in dating
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:50 PM
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I am sorry to hear that, how on earth did these guys ever succeed on finding someone else to like them? I do assume you were going for looksmatch guys right?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:46 PM
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How attractive you would say you are from 1 to 10?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:39 PM
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Not my cup of tea
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:36 PM
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I have met some men who loves bitches and some who love submissive women, it is hard to tell exactly if there is a something in particular that will map what kind of men will like the bitches, but on average these men are miserable by their dating choices and the same can be said about women who are attracted to toxic men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:35 PM
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Do you feel the same about a woman earning 50k dating a man earning 300k, should such relationships be a taboo?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:46 PM
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I mostly agree but I think you are missing one point, the men that women seek in their 20's are not the same they seek in their 30's, there will be some high betas that will strictly refuse to marry in a western culture, as I believe every beta with a successful career should at this point. Although these men will not be missed at all, their resources and the fact that their financial and mental stability would have allowed for a woman to have a family will definitely be missed. How many such me…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:59 PM
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It is better not to settle, there is nothing wrong with settling the problem is that women settle in their 30's usually and some will knowingly marry a guy because they want a family and then will end up in a dead bedroom or divorce him. If you settle when you are young because the culture is conservative for instance, you will not know any better so you might believe that what you already have is good enough
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 10:58 AM
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accurate
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 07:59 PM
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Women are not smarter than men, the average IQ is the same for men and women but the variance is different, men have a higher variance which means that are more smart men than smart women and there are also more retarded men than retarded women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 09:21 PM
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Yeah but no one actually gives a fuck about that in a secular culture anymore, it simply doesn't matter, the only thing that matters is maximising your enjoyment in life and reducing unnecessary risks like divorce and a child that is bound to you until maturity
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 08:46 PM
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Of course they don't and the men who marry and have children also don't matter, the only thing that matters is making the most you can out of life given your circumstances
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 08:36 PM
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How many relationships did you have until 24?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 08:10 PM
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Yeah I understand but why do you think it happens?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 07:49 PM
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I think you have it backward, women don't date for marriage until their 30's, they tend to go for men who are higher in value and thus in the man's mind they are replaceable. The real issue I believe is that there are simply not enough men that women truly want for genuine love, there are multiple men that would offer love and partnership but they are simply not good enough
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 07:48 PM
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Why would women permit it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 07:40 PM
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Who gives a fuck about the future these days in our culture, if the future is important to you then it belongs to muslims probably, certainly not to anyone from a western culture
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 07:37 PM
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I am like that, no way I will settle down in a western country, I would consider myself an imbecile for doing so
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 07:29 PM
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It is the same for women it is just less obvious because women are bombarded with attention from men
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 10:42 AM
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I do believe a lot of women will settle. I find nothing wrong with settling but the problem is that women settle on you in their 30's. What I mean is that there is no problem driving an old pickup truck for the rest of your life, but it will be a problem if I let you drive a Bently in your 20's and then give you a choice between the old pickup or nothing, in both cases it could be said that you are settling because a pickup truck is not the car you would want, but try to imagine how you feel abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 07:32 PM
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What are you looking sexually from a woman? I ask because I know men that enjoy women who are totally submissive in bed and don't do too much at all, I myself don't find that too appealing but don't find the opposite of that appealing as well
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 02:29 PM
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Yeah it makes sense, who would you choose by the way the average looking guy who is good at sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 03:08 PM
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I admit I will choose a better looking woman but not good in bed to an average looking woman but very good in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 01:45 PM
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It almost looks like you are being black pilled by the replies
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 01:44 PM
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I think most men rather women not to settle for them
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 05:15 PM
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It is better not to settle if you believe you will become resentful and not be able to love the person
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 05:15 PM
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Simple, abundance of options
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 06:35 PM
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So men experiencing loneliness and unable to find a girlfriend who commit suicide that is correlation but not necessary causation, but PTSD leading to suicide that is definitively causation? I fail to see a distinction between the arguments since a depression is known the increase suicide rates as well so any human condition linked to increase in depression rate transitively increases suicide rates, I mean that is not a hard leap of faith here
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 04:53 PM
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I think he was talking about casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 09:18 AM
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If there were no financial/physical/social implications for having sex don’t you think women would be much more open to it and less selective? Women will only have casual sex with top 10% of men irregardless of the above, the bottom 90% have no incentives to subsidise this behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 09:14 AM
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Yeah it's a grift
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 05:49 PM
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In all fairness you also don't have proof for correlation and causation for female rape victims who have committed suicide, it is easy though to assume causation in both cases, since most likely both lead to depression. It is also not sexless per se, we are talking about men who are unable to find any woman who is willing to be their partner, if sex was the real issue these men would just go to escorts
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 12:18 PM
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Not sure why he is insulting you it is actually refreshing for women being honest like that, why do you think it is common, do you have other friends who are in this situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 06:50 AM
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Why do you think you are worse than the average woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 09:21 PM
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Well at least you are being honest, too bad that op didn't add to her post that if men will offer the extra 50% then they will get a dead bedroom with a woman who is fucking on the side
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 09:15 PM
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It is just not possible to not get a payment according to the supply/demand at any given time. For instance let's say there was only one caregiver per 10 nursing homes, since this position is critical don't you agree that every nursing home will try to lure the caregiver to work for them and the only way they have to do it is to offer her more money than the competitors. If the salaries are low it is either because the barrier for entry into these professions is low or that immigrants are being …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 09:11 PM
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Ohh man how did you get to believe this nonsense, what determines the salary in the job market is supply vs demand for the position. Caring and cleaning doesn't require any formal education and so the amount of people that can qualify for them is much larger than engineering for instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 08:44 PM
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Yeah I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 08:32 PM
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Ok but since now you are free and can earn your own money why not share chads and not even consider <80% men, is there even an amount you will be willing to get to stay with a man you are not attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 08:09 PM
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I guess so, but isn't it what you and op are proposing in any case? you are saying that most men are ugly so they should pay more than 50% of their share, so if you are staying with such an ugly man only if he pays for 100% of the expenses then what does it make you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:58 PM
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Offering money will absolutely not generate any attraction, at that point it is much better to date sugar babies because they will be younger and better looking and the arrangements will be made clear
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:33 PM
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You can share a top tier man though
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:30 PM
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Women will not be attracted regardless you can't buy your way into attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:30 PM
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Ohh you are right I thought you were talking about a man, he or she it is correct for both genders
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 06:55 PM
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I see thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 06:12 PM
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Can you elaborate what was wrong with the Lebanese women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 05:59 PM
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Because he is offering higher value in that regard
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 05:37 PM
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Yeah when the woman is dating up the guy will usually get this treatment. I have also seen situations in which women are dating losers that might not even be that attractive, but they could be drug dealers or have dark triad traits that some women find very attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 05:14 PM
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Yeah person A is excused
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 05:11 PM
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There are no realistic solutions to the dating market imbalance
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 03:56 PM
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I disagree, first of all there are other ways of meeting people besides online dating, second there are still matches that eventually will lead to something although for top 20% of men usually, and lastly there might be an age when women stop chasing top 20% of men but that is a smaller portion of women in these apps or they quickly disappear. Regarding your personal experience in still doesn't trump official Tinder data released by them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:37 AM
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I have a problem with this because in this data women don't really have to send a messages at all unlike Tinder's data in which women have to swipe right for it to be a match, so now we are talking about a biased data in which we need to figure what portion of women are sending the first messages and it's just a different set of data. Another problem I have with it is that it is from 2009, Tinder data is much newer as far as I know
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 06:48 AM
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No I think the data on that is pretty solid: https://medium.com/@worstonlinedater/tinder-experiments-ii-guys-unless-you-are-really-hot-you-are-probably-better-off-not-wasting-your-2ddf370a6e9a Bottom 80% of men are competing for bottom 22% of women, and top 78% of women are competing for top 20% of men, they had to know the distribution of likes for each man to get to these figures, almost 80% of women have swiped on 20% of men only
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 08:21 PM
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You need to read the man actually, I know men that are attracted to bitchy women, even women that cheat on them it somehow increases their attraction, and I know others that are attracted to submissive women only. When you find out what the man is looking for the rest is easy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 08:09 PM
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So what is your point then, I said that not settling is the moral behavior and you said men are not willing to settle, so you mean by that that men are moral?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 04:24 PM
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That is not actually correct this post shows most women are not willing to settle which according to what I believe is actually moral behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 07:20 AM
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I don't slander women, I slander men just as much, and I never ever offer solution to what women should do in any case, I never say that women should settle or shouldn't, I just have my view point on some of women's behavior that I personally find immoral and other men's behavior that I do find immoral, I also had debated women who had hostile view towards men and I didn't insult them personally for it. In this thread I never insult any woman for her choice
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 07:19 AM
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I don't mean doesn't consider divorce for any reason it means he will not divorce you without anything abnormal to happen such as cheating from your part or you starting to abuse him. The purpose of the post is to put you in a difficult position in which you either settle or remain single and test what will you do basically
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 07:16 AM
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This actually draws more information, settle or not and also at what age but it's better to give example that are detached from actual reality to understand better how people will behave
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 07:13 AM
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This is not the intent of the post, the intent is to see your behavior in a difficult situation in which you either have to settle or remain single, it isn't my intention to make it seem like this is the actual reality
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 07:11 AM
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It isn't made to pass judgement on you specifically, it puts you in a position in which either you have to settle or stay single and tests what will be your choice
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 07:08 AM
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I have lots of comment some also very critical of men's behavior calling men immoral, also there are comments in which women say they don't want to settle on men they are not interested in and I back them up fully. I am not here to convince you of showing any kindness to any type of men really I made this post to understand how women think on this matter
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 09:49 PM
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Thanks :)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 09:26 PM
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The glasses will tell you if a man will commit to you and be willing to marry and not to divorce you ever
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 09:18 PM
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I see thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 09:17 PM
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I see thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 09:02 PM
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But it is rather uncomplicated to date casually no? is it possible these women didn't really enjoyed sex all that much in the beginning?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 09:01 PM
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Thanks, I appreciate your honesty
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 08:56 PM
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Thanks, but assuming the glasses work flawlessly, will you use them?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 08:56 PM
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Thanks, by single you mean dating men who you are attracted to casually right?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 08:47 PM
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Yeah resentment and icy tension sound very plausible to me as well, but it still will be better for you than remaining single?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 08:46 PM
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You will be settling because you don't view him as attractive per se he is at best cute, also you will be settling on the fact that he is not what you call a fun or charismatic guy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 08:38 PM
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Thanks it is an interesting answer
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 08:36 PM
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Ok thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 08:34 PM
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Thanks, and what about settling on the compatible guy down the road, will you do that, or will you prefer to remain single permanently?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 08:34 PM
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Yeah I can understand your point, am I right to assume that there is no way you will settle on such a husband and you will prefer to remain single permanently
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 08:32 PM
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You can also choose to remain single, so if I understand you correctly, you will choose to remain single in such a scenario
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 08:28 PM
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I agree with you, for all purposes you are already having the VR goggles in that you are dating for future marriage basically
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 08:27 PM
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I see thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 08:24 PM
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I see thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 08:17 PM
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That is interesting, so if I understand correctly you would only use the glasses when you know you want to settle down
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 08:17 PM
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Appreciate the honesty, the flings are in between the long term relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 08:12 PM
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Do you really show more respect for attractive women at work? my respect at my previous workplace was to a not attractive nerdy woman because she was good at what she was doing, in the top 20% of the workforce I would say, so she earned my respect. Much more attractive women than her did not, and they also had an imposter syndrome and were sure that they don't get treated with the same respect they deserved, truth was that they were mediocre.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 06:28 AM
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Pathetic is what you decide it is, if a man can be fooled by the act of the sugar baby then for him it is real, some men can even get enjoyment out of pure sex with a prostitute, which for me is basically a waste of money
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 07:38 PM
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I am not talking about marriage per se I am talking about a culture in which women date men who they would want to marry, and I am not saying that it is in any way likely to happen, my view on dating and the relationship between men and women is quite pessimistic. The women that do that dont end up going back to the same guy and marrying him. Usually what happens is they eventually find a casual partner that turns into a rel then marriage or they marry the fuckboi like them later. This narrative…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 04:50 PM
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There is nothing immoral about settling, if you are going to settle then do it at your early 20's, don't fuck over men's youth for a decade then find yourself exactly the same guy from the group you have fucked over and marry him. Regarding the treatment if a man or a woman is afraid of competition taking his/her partner he or she will treat the partner as best as they can because they are afraid of losing them
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 04:33 PM
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I think the average marriage age for women in the US is close to 30, so I think you are a bit over exaggerating on how uncommon it is to be not married at 33 or 34, and I didn't mean they are struggling as there are no available men, struggling is they are unable to find a man they want
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 04:26 PM
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So you believe saying that women don't need marriage is valid for 50% or more of young women? Are you saying don't need marriage as in don't need marriage to survive or don't need marriage as in prefer to staying single and childless?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 04:23 PM
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Their problems is also women's problems, if you think that men failing in relationships in their 20's produces mature mentally healthy men in their 30's then you are mistaken, for every such man there will be a woman who is unable to find a normal man to marry. You lot seem to be forgetting that it takes one man and one woman for marriage to occur.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 04:13 PM
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I do view it as being immoral if he knows the woman is expecting him to propose but he is still staying in a relationship because he prefers not to be alone while he lowers the woman's chances of ever having a family. Most people don't think about these things and they don't really realize how the dating market works, they would think that they had bad look in their 20's and now they finally met an attractive enough woman who wants them. I am more aware of what is going on so I am upset, and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 04:10 PM
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Of course no one is forcing anyone to do anything, but we can still discuss moral and immoral behaviors that men and women engage in, diagnosing what is a harmful behavior for men and for women is important because if the idea is for men and women to be partners then there is a symbiotic relationship that exists between them. Criticising these men is still good because it raises the awareness of men and women to this problem and it might make some women to spot the red flags sooner rather than l…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 04:00 PM
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It is hard to know exactly, but think for yourself what is the difference for the average woman between dating in her 20's without the thought of marriage and a woman in her 30's with the thought that this guy needs to be the parent of her children. It is safe to assume that during the 20's there is no need to optimize for a stable career minded person and instead someone who is fun to be around and attractive seems to be more logical, now imagine how many men that might of been the winners if w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 03:51 PM
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It is harming men when these women turn around to then marry the men they refused to date in their 30's, because if monogamy was what these women wanted then it should of occurred with the type of men that they are able to marry. and you are correct that it is women exercising their own agency, but that doesn't stop it from being immoral, the fact that your action is done by free choice doesn't stop it from being immoral, I will give you an example, men who date women in their early 30's when th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 03:44 PM
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It is not only about restricting rights it is about the freedom to critique the other gender's behavior, women don't need to physically harm men for men to be able to criticise women. How does these type of women hurt men? that is easy actually, it is by removing them selves from the dating market for a decade while dating men that are above their own league. Assuming these men are not able to get casual sex which is an easy assumption to make they can only go for relationships, and since a port…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 03:33 PM
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That is usually not why women remain single in their 20's, what he meant was that women date above their league so it is impossible for a lot of them to actually marry the type of guy they got accustomed to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 03:24 PM
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Why should they mind their business, did women also need to mind their business when chauvinism was a standard practice?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 03:17 PM
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Then you are an anomaly I wouldn't take you as an example
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 03:11 PM
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what do you mean by didn't date, you were virgin until the age of 27?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 03:07 PM
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The anger is at women who date above their league and then settle down with betas in their 30's, any other anger is not really justified
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 03:05 PM
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It is not merely inconvenient it is cheating young men out of happiness that otherwise should of been theirs for a decade, it is the difference between being content for a decade to being moderately unhappy or even depressed
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 02:56 PM
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It is impossible to coordinate all men and in any case it is not a problem for top 20% to fuck as many different women as you can imagine, if the bottom 80% of men will drop out of the dating market then some women will stay perma-single and others will fuck chads as long as they possibly can, to solve this you need for top 20% men to lead a fully monogamous life style, only then you remove the real competition from the market
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 07:47 AM
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It is 100% morally problematic if there are men that struggle a decade getting dates only to have success in their 30's, if this is due to dual mating strategy that is
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 07:03 AM
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It seems no one really cares about reproduction these days, the only country that seems to be getting desperate is Japan and they are basically dying as a nation. It probably makes sense to pay women for baring children in a two parent household, since there doesn't seem to enough organic interest in doing so. Regarding women's selectiveness I agree with you on that as well. The effects of that on the development of many younger men seem to be highly problematic, with that being said I don't rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 09:39 PM
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I agree with you, it is not possible to force relationships on women that prefer staying single and not settling, it is the women who fuck fuckbois until their 30's and then uturn to betas that is morally problematic
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 09:20 PM
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No one approaches now days, most people meet through their friends circle or online dating, and in online dating women seem to rate 80% of men as below average, so how could men be realistic about their league with this skew?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 09:17 PM
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Why do you feel like POS what is wrong with saying that he needs to hit women that looks worse than him
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 08:42 PM
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Pay for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 08:39 PM
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I think it is a small minority honestly, most men want a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 09:06 PM
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Yeah but illusion is good enough though, the waitress gives you an illusion when she is nice to you, but it doesn't stop a lot of people to believe that is genuinely a nice person, people are easily tricked when they want to believe something is true
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 09:05 PM
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It is better to jerk off than pay 2k for over nighter, the only arrangement that it is worth paying for is a sugar baby, it is the closet you will ever get to the real thing, especially if the girl has an acting ability, I do believe a sugar baby is much better than marriage for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 09:01 PM
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Did you try using the apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 07:15 PM
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Yeah I have encountered some as well, so how do you view the perfect society as in terms of the economic system and dating/marriage norms?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 08:54 PM
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I think this one is easy, in porn milfs usually have wider hips and larger breasts which most men find very attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 08:34 PM
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Interesting, definitely a strange combo, most of the people who are both are blue pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 08:27 PM
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Just trying to understand what dirty as hell mean for you
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 08:20 PM
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politically far left in terms of economics, or in terms of gender and race as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 08:08 PM
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What do you mean by dirty as hell, BDSM stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 08:07 PM
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I think the mid 40s man should be much more worried about you than you about him: https://www.britishfertilitysociety.org.uk/fei/at-what-age-does-fertility-begin-to-decrease/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 08:04 PM
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So if this system caters to white men, why are asians the most successful demographic in the US?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 07:24 PM
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What makes you a woke lefty and what makes your red pilled?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 07:19 PM
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Interesting, I am very far from this stuff but I was sure that if you write it in your bio on Tinder or Grinder then there shouldn't be a problem finding multiple guys
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 07:16 PM
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Do you need a bi guy for that? aren't there straight men who will have MMF threesomes with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:35 PM
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I think what he meant to say by party is drugs, some women fuck for money others for drugs
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:21 AM
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You are correct for casual sex money doesn't really help men, only attractiveness and charisma
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:19 AM
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Good post, if you can enjoy a fake lust that would be the best because most likely this is closer to reality. Even true lust eventually fades, if you are after lust you would need to either stay permanently single or take into account a long career in cheating
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 06:26 PM
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Break up with her your self esteem is not worth what ever is that you are getting from her
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 06:17 PM
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Well we do have antitrust laws to speed this up but I don't believe that because in some industries monopolies form it implies that a market economy is a failure
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 06:12 PM
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I think he meant power as in not to worry about a man who will fuck and not offer commitment, and with that I do agree. Once you shame women into a very sexually conservative life style, you get a society in which men and women get married very early for obvious reasons and have much less sexual partners due to the social penalties. Is this good or bad for a society I don't know, but in any case this is irrelevant since I don't see the western world coming back to it, unless perhaps Europe in a …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 06:09 PM
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I don't think this is an actual issue for women because eventually men are not able to get sex easily as when they were younger and all of their friends are getting married so there is pressure on them to get married as well. I think women's problem is not being able to lock down a man they truly desire, but that is impossible because there simply is not enough of such men hitting all the right boxes. Only some women get a man they truly attracted to and is stable enough to raise a family togath…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 06:02 PM
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I know but that still doesn't change the fact that men rate them selves compared to others and if the sample size is random and large enough they get a good sense of their relative attractiveness, women then can then rate the same group of men but them give lower scores on average and women's ratings will not match to their own relative attractiveness, so for instance a 50% percentile woman who was rated as a 5 by men will rate a 70% percentile man as a 5, and my original point is whether this 7…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:28 PM
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Yeah but men's ratings are still too low, let's say there are 3 women and 3 men, here is the rating of the women by men: 4 4 4 5 5 5 6 6 6 so the average for first woman is 4, second is 5, third is 6, and overall average is 5. Now same for the men: 1 3 5 2 1 5 5 3 1 the average of the first one is 3, the second is 2.6 and third is 3, and overall average is 2.8. So you can see how even though the women have a high variance compared to men, the average rating of men is still low. So the question i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 10:08 AM
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It doesn't work like that we are taking averages, so let's say all the men vote the same rating for every woman but every woman votes a different rating for every man, we still need to average all the votes for a single person and this average is the final rating. So even if women rate totally different ratings for every man the average score of all the women for this man is still lower than his relative position to other men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:21 AM
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I understand what you mean, but there still is a problem, let's say you are correct and looksmatch is what women rate it to be, but then the numbers don't add up, so if the median woman is a 5, but the 70% percentile man is also a 5, then we are talking about matching 500 women to 300 men which is impossible. So in a world in which there is roughly same amount of men to women, it could be said that women's standards are just unrealistic
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:54 AM
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that is inaccurate The catchphrase from your article is: however, looking at others' ratings, women were rated overall as more attractive than men. So it doesn't disprove of what I am saying, regarding the criteria for SMV I do agree with the op, the problem is that it is irrelevant to online dating which if you eliminate meeting someone from your social circle, is the most popular way of meeting women these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:50 AM
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I mean that if men rate 1000 women for instance the results will be a symmetric bell curve distribution, meaning that a similar amount of attractive to non attractive women, and the rest falling some where in the middle. When women will rate 1000 men, the results will be skewed, there will be more unattractive men than attractive ones, which means that men view an average woman in statistical terms as also average in looks, but women view an average man in statistical terms as below average in l…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:43 AM
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I think the best tool we have is happiness surveys personally, women are increasingly unhappy since the 70's, men had a peak in the 90's and are increasingly unhappy since then
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:50 PM
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It is all a matter of perspective, men do seem to more accurately rate women in terms of attractiveness than women rate men, what I mean is that an average woman would be rated a 5 by men, but an average man would be rated lower by women. Then it is a matter of perspective who is the looksmatch
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:21 PM
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I think you are confusing TRP with blackpill, it is black pillers who say it is all about looks, red pillers actually believe having game is the most important thing, I actually believe it is a combination of both, with looks being slightly more important but charisma and social skills not falling far behind
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:18 PM
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That is news to me, when you sneaking of and afraid to be found out how can you be high value, but maybe it depends on what type of men you hang out with
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:08 PM
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I don't believe the amount of cheating that is being done by men is any higher than that done by the women, at least that is what I recall the data points to
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:50 PM
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who would think cheating is alpha, the true alphas don't have to cheat they can date multiple women knowingly
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:45 PM
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Yeah exactly who cares what others are thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 08:14 PM
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I don't think that is in any way unique, maybe in your circles it isn't, but I am quite sure that is the experience of most straight men, does that offend you by the way, you seem to be somewhat offended by my comment
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 08:03 PM
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Interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 08:02 PM
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Don't know man I find the thought of kissing a dude physically revolting
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:24 PM
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What?? that is very surprising, I have never met a guy who admitted on being bi btw, but now that I am in Asia I do see guys going for trans women but that is not the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:23 PM
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what would these women want the men to talk about specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:18 PM
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Yeah I actually do agree with that
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:10 PM
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Ohh that is surprising actually, usually surgeons are the best students in school and are paid very well. Isn't you profession still considered prestigious in your home country?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:08 PM
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Ohh shit, that is a high paying job no?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:03 PM
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Maybe I don't understand what you mean by feeling intimate, can you explain what these guys are doing wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:02 PM
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If you are not able to work online at this point I would put all I had into finding an online job in your place
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:00 PM
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Yes of course, I just mean that you over generalize, because the amount of men that women do find attractive is smaller, it is not easy to get intimacy from these men, but it is easy to get intimacy from average men because they are less in demand
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 06:55 PM
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You mean it is not easy to get intimacy with men you find attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 06:44 PM
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Ohh so sure makes sense, an educated engineer who happens to be middle eastern. A middle eastern arriving to Europe as a refugee might hold some different ideas let's put it that way
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 06:32 PM
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I see this comment from women all the time and I never truly understand it, you do realize that most people meet online these days, say that a guy is not able to have casual sex for a year, do truly believe that he will continue seeking casual sex and not switch his preferences to relationships only? Most guys that are complaining are unable to get a relationship, not casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 09:36 PM
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A middle eastern that has arrived due to mass immigration?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 09:28 PM
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Sounds like a bit of culture clash with your norms and theirs no?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 09:08 PM
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Are you talking about middle eastern men when you say ethnic?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:47 PM
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Probably true but none the less, a low SMV passport bro will leave dust to 90% of men living in a western country
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:03 PM
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We should all be so lucky to go in our sleep
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:01 PM
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Mongolian men are agressive as fuck, better to not do that, but what do you mean that the situation is same, women fuck around until their 30's with chad and only then want marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:07 PM
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Are you sure you are blue pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 02:39 PM
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I don't really understand how your brain works, you do seem to get the differences between being poor and being rich right? so let's say a doorman is pretty basic boring and shitty job to me, but to a poor immigrant starving for food it is an amazing job. In the same way, a woman who is attracted to assholes is at best a receptacle for bodily fluids to me, but to a guy who has been swiping right for a year and hardly finding dates, let's say that her flaws will be very easily overlooked. You are…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 06:23 PM
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Might be true on average, but the opposite is definitely true, the less good looking a guy is the more he will want a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 06:10 PM
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Then what about very poor countries that managed to become very wealthy such as South Korea which was done in a market economy, also why if centralized economy is so much better than a market economy did China and Vietnam switch to a hybrid market economy instead of going full communism? The only big threat I see to market economy is actually AI and tackling a mass loss of jobs all in the same time might actually warrant the state to hand out universal basic income, but that would actually be a …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 08:20 PM
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It might be impossible for a small business, but there still is enough capital in the world to start several of these businesses in every country. Ologopolies are still not as bad as a monoply, and in any case no one is saying that market economy is perfect, it is just the best out of all the other systems that were tried.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 08:04 PM
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Ok then, what is the monopoly in the airline industry? what is the monopoly in automobiles? what is the monopoly in PCs? what is the monopoly in mobiles? Do you want to tell me that all this was achieved by anti-trust laws? some domains are just harder to monopolize, especially when goverment regulation and vast infrastructure is not involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 07:18 PM
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I didn't say it is easy it takes years but eventually it is resolved, in any case it is very difficult to create monopolies only a small percentage of companies are able to do so, the rest have to compete with one another which is still x100 times better than any centralised economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 06:35 PM
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Monopolies are still part of the free market and eventually they get disrupted, it might take some time of course but it always happens in the end
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 06:17 AM
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It is not about sex, it is very easy to masturbate or go to a prostitute, it is about failure of men to find a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 06:14 AM
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Amazing technology it's real applications will be to kill porn and onlyfans, which is amazing by all accounts since what e girls are doing to simps is tragic, I would much rather these girls working at mcdonalds or becoming actual prostitutes if they really want to sell their bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 06:09 AM
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Because humans are unable to control what turns them on, is it the woman's conscious choice to be attracted to good looks or confidence or is it something imposed on her by her biology? These guys also don't specifically want the girl that the asshole has, it is more about their lack of success in dating, they envy the success the assholes have in dating, and since they don't have success they will value romance much more than successful men will, in the same way that a homeless person will valu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:07 PM
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Women drop out from the dating game completely or turn lesbian. Until they are ready to marry women can share a smaller group of men amongst themselves, for instance 2 women date the same guy for 3 months while the other one is single for 3 months, so that means that one woman disappeared from the dating pool for 6 months, extrapolate this further and you will see how you can end up with an acute shortage for <80% men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:54 PM
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Why do you assume that the girl has mental issues just because she is with an asshole, girls are with an asshole either because he is good looking or he projects a lot of confidence or both of them, the fact that he is an asshole is not enough to deter women from dating him. The guys who are unsuccessful at getting this girl are jealous of the assholes for a good reason, they just miss the point that whether a guy is an asshole or not is less important to physical looks and/or confidence. Do the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:50 PM
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Do you consider yourself a 7.5-8/10?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 06:02 PM
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That is actually not accurate, if a woman does like a man he most likely is above her in his RMV, so for every such man there will be more than one woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 06:00 PM
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Not attracted as disgusted by, or not attracted as in the women are able to fuck the guy at least for the first few years but there are no sparks what so ever?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:49 PM
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Yep agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 09:54 PM
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Reducing effort in the economy makes women the net tax payers which is very good considering they are the ones in favor of most social redistribution schemes, I am glad that they get to be the ones that will foot the bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 09:30 PM
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But why is being an asshole wrong, let's say that women are more sexually attracted to rude and cocky men, so why shouldn't all men aspire to be like that? I do agree that if being an asshole involves some sort of threatening behavior or physical violence then that is obviously wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:57 PM
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I do agree, but on the flip side the fact that the bar is so low means that women choose men whose value is higher than their own, if you get a shit treatment by a man or a woman it must mean that you have no value to the other person and he or she sees you as completely replaceable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:44 PM
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So the fact that the guy is effeminate and wants to be dominated is not the thing that turns women off there are just other random stuff that can turn them off?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:36 PM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:27 PM
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I think the one and only thing that some men find or at least should find is not fair, is the fact that their youth might be totally tarnished and only in their 30's they might find women that are similar to their own RMV. This might happen due to the fact that when women decide to get married it is no longer possible to share men amongst other women like in the dating game of the 20's, in that age women become more desperate to lock down a man, some don't want to settle and they stay single but…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:37 PM
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I am sorry man, I hope you find something that makes you happy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 06:23 PM
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In some aspects my life is much better than I have ever imagined and in some it is worse, overall I still am lucky to be where I am. I believe I am behind the most in social skills due to the fact that I can't seem to find the motivation to train them, most people are boring to me unfortunately and getting laid is very easy where I am at, so this is just a recipe for being unmotivated to improve
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 06:19 PM
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Women already share men just not usually at the same time, a woman can date a man from the apps for a short while then they break up and the man finds another woman in the same way while the first one is waiting for couple of months to find another guy from the apps. So essentially it is like a game of musical chairs but the amount of chairs is smaller than the amount of women, women hop from one chair to the next and while the music is still playing there is no problem, the problems happens whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 07:39 PM
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I wouldn't worry about any of these groups, the fat old women are at least getting their money's worth, it is their fault for being stupid enough to believe that a young attractive guy will be interested in a fat old landwhale, and the same goes for the men
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 06:02 AM
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Because the amount of men and women is roughly equal, so if you are saying that guys are being biologically excluded by women aren't I assume for the most part that it is due to women having children with desirable men but then being abandoned by them
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 09:22 PM
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So the guys are being biologically excluded but women aren't? so you mean there are a lot of single mothers out there?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 09:14 PM
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I assume they are but I also assume they are gay as fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 09:12 PM
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Sorry but she is textbook garbage that red pill warns about, hope you are staying as far away from her as possible
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 09:54 AM
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I don't get this assumption that women have that men like the op want women to lower their standards in order to have casual sex, while it is obvious that he is not able to find a relationship with a woman that is in his level, men who are not able to have casual sex will then choose to find a relationship it is not like they will sit for years waiting to have casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:12 PM
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Holy shit your mom is pure garbage, to favor anonymous shitty women over the wellbeing of her son, that is terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 09:45 PM
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Why is that racist?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 06:45 PM
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Interesting but that maybe says you are ok with dying which is not uncommon, would you rather lose an arm or be raped?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 06:41 PM
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I don't really need to do flips I do understand women's position on almost everything and it seems logical to me, but I separate what they say and what they actually do, what they say has almost no importance to me only what they do, and what they do seems very intuitive to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 07:23 AM
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If anyone would have to rely on data there would be almost no debate because there are only specific domains which get funded for studies. With that said I do believe the general data shows a decline in male happiness, a decline in the amount of sex young men have and a huge asymmetry in the supply/demand in dating apps between men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:37 PM
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It probably is covariated but by how much?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:27 PM
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Agreed physical appearance and charisma trumps big money any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:26 PM
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I think boomers are still referring to old school feminism and gen-z to the more extreme modern versions of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:45 PM
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I have done something about it I have left to a country in which the tax rate for me is 0 so I will not be affected by the failures of welfare programs collapsing due to a shrinking workforce
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:38 PM
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Have you tried checking how attractive you are? you can try https://www.photofeeler.com/ But I do believe since the popularity of the dating apps men are approaching much less than before
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:43 PM
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Don't agree with you at all there, I would rather be very poor than ugly, most of the poor people that are living in a 3rd world country are much happier than the average person in a western country, at least from my observations
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:39 PM
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Me neither but it means but her face, it's like when you see a girl body and she looks fine but her face...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 08:45 PM
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For sure I agree, next to being chronically ill being unattractive is probably the worst fate there is
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 08:06 PM
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Didn't know there are black pill women, what does it mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 06:38 PM
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Haha I like it that you describe her as morbidly obese butterface, if she morbidly obese she is not a butterface she is just a no go all around
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 06:30 PM
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Yeah but other than that these guys are totally clueless, I have seen guys marrying bar girls and other pros. If you don't know what is going around in these countries you will 100% get played, in a developing countries such men are always the prey and never the hunters
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 06:41 AM
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But it does seem to spill over to your personal life, you said you always make sure to open doors for men you don't even know in order to lower their self esteem, what does that say about how you feel about men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 06:38 AM
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It is still better to catch an std from a prostitute than to marry one hope we at least agree on that one, regarding winning it is all a question of your alternatives and how fond you are to the idea of marriage and having children and the risks of divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 06:35 AM
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Yeah guess so
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 09:11 PM
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Seems like you have a lot of resentment towards men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 08:37 PM
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Sounds about right to me. But the original passport bros that you describe are probably amongst the biggest idiots I have met in my life, they are usually the ones that will get scammed by the much smarter local women who would play out these men fantasy in order to gain citizenship or some other scam meanwhile fucking 10 other guys, in reality these men would marry actual prostitutes much worse than any western woman they had imagined. At least the sexpats or MGTOWs and other red pill guys that…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 07:33 PM
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I am not traditional at all, I will not be getting married or having kids, but most likely you are correct and you will be ok if you live in the US if you live in Europe you will be fucked though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 04:12 PM
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Probably a controversial opinion but the biggest problem that causes a huge amount of civilian death in Gaza is the higher morality of western cultures over non western ones, and the outcome turns out to be catastrophic. What I mean is that Israeli society as does any western society is unwilling to perform actual genocide and what I am talking about is wiping out the Palestinians completely and not the high casualty numbers in this conflict which although is very high is still less than 1% of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 09:00 PM
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I don't want to discourage you but traditional people are the future, since the more progressive couples barely have children your ideology is the one dying off, it will first start happening in Europe where if you will go out without a hijab you will be risking rape. In the US it will be a slower process that will take couple of decades but in the end everything you believe in will perish because liberalism leads to a negative birth rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 08:17 PM
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I think they mean that they don't find a man being a fuck boy in itself attractive, but because a man is a fuck boy it means that he is most likely physically attractive and probably has some amount of game and confidence and these are the attractive attributes about him
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 07:10 AM
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I agree with you but I met a lot of men who seem to be depressed if they don't have a relationship, and there is nothing that can help them change it from what I have seen. There are also men I have seen whose life is total shit in every regard, but if they have a woman by their side they are happy. So don't think that if you are able to be content being single then other men will also have the same capacity
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 07:31 AM
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I don't understand how so many people don't get this very simple fact, when a guy doesn't have any casual sex for a year he already knows it is not possible for him to be successful at casual sex so he is looking for a relationship, but the fact he hasn't had sex for a year shows you that probably a huge majority of the 30% aren't able to get a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 09:05 PM
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Not a red piller but there is definitely a problem with the dating market. 30% of young men reported that they didn't have any sex in a year, do you think this is a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 07:44 PM
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I wonder how did Sweden got to that position but something tells me the answer is mass migration, in that case don't worry about them they will import enough brides from their countries of origin
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 09:31 PM
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Yeah I have read your opinion but I still don't agree with it, you don't ask questions when there is little to gain and more to lose, similarly to asking you partner if he wants to get married and have children on the first date, that is actually a very valid question and would of saved a lot of women a lot of time, but the problem is that it makes you look desperate
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 08:27 PM
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Because men and women will lie so it is somewhat pointless to ask, I am sure that if the guy asked that women if she is seeing someone she would lie, so what is the point in asking you are just showing that you are insecure and you gain nothing from it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 09:07 AM
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It might bruise your ego if a woman cheats on you but if you are single it will be ok, but if you are married with children at that points it is a whole different story, there is no reason to take this chance with the divorce rates being what they are. The only rational reason to get married is if you really desire children but and that is unfortunately what happens to most men I believe, they just don't see any other alternative because if they do not marry they will have to stay single and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 07:09 AM
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The only reliable way is to not get married, then if the woman is lying or not is not important
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 09:03 PM
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Latin America and parts of Asia have infidelity ingrained in the culture
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 09:41 PM
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Good definition, it is a very interesting question but I am afraid you will not get a true answer since most married women will never admit of settling and the single ones don't believe in it because maybe they haven't gotten to the position of staying single while all their friends are getting married. It is similar to asking parents if they regret having children, no one will admit it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:36 PM
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Interesting that you settled on eduction and financial situation, sounds like the men felt emasculated from your description
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:33 PM
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It is not about women per se, it is about winning in the game of life, I believe the only thing that builds our self worth is winning against others, there are multiple domains in which we compete: career, women, socially, the more wins we gather the higher is our self esteem and the higher is our enjoyment from life. Everyone has different weights to how important one domain is over the other and some are too lazy or just don't believe the juice is worth the squeeze, I believe these people can …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:24 PM
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A lot of people want to date and experience life that is the point, do you honestly think that if I gave these women another 10 years in their fertility window and youth they wouldn't continue to do the same until they are pressured by society and their fertility window to find a stable husband and have a family. If you delay something in life to the last second this is probably not the most enjoyable thing that you truly desire, the thing that you truly desire is the one you keep doing until th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 06:50 AM
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I think the answer is pretty self explanatory, people do what they truly desire when they have free choice, for women that period is their 20's and the men they choose is the one they truly desire. The ones they chose in their 30's are the ones they could find who wanted to get married and have kids and are finically and mentally stable enough to do so. So now you tell me if guy 2 is so much more valued than guy 1 then why waste time and not date guy 2 from the get go and then get married, and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 09:22 PM
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Why do you assume women don't want to have kids with guy 1 and not the other way around?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 09:06 PM
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So most men are too soft or they are waiting for you to take control as well? Because I admit I prefer to have control all the time I don't like positions in which I am more passive like when the woman is on top, but I am not sure if that is what you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 08:19 PM
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Can you describe what do you mean by dominant because it is a bit strange to me that it is hard for you to find guys that are into that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 07:40 PM
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It is possible that in college things are somewhat different, but let's say you are in a bar, most girls will not waste a night of their lives going out with a stranger who they are not attracted to, and these tend to be guys that are better looking than the average that is for sure. In the dating apps it is already common knowledge that guys that get casual sex are hot
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 05:25 PM
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Because of women's standards for hookups, if women are going for top 10% of men there needs to be just more than 10% of women who engage in hookups for the women to be less attractive than the men on average. Also obviously men are less selective because of the higher sex drive
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 09:25 PM
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Because if women will feel the need to have a hookup it is usually because they are very attracted to the guy, hence women hookup with hot guys and men with less attractive women (again on average not every time).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 09:14 PM
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May I ask how many likes per year and how many hookup per year?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 09:05 PM
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What Richard said is gendered actually, men will generally sleep with less attractive women if it is a hookup and women the other way around
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 08:41 PM
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May I ask why you haven't had sex for years?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 07:44 PM
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Haha busted, are you implying that most men hookup with more attractive women than they date?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 07:42 PM
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The red pill is a reaction to the new market dynamics in which it is increasingly hard for the average man to get a relationship with a woman who in the past was considered of a similar SMV, so the more popular the red pill is the harder it is for the average man to get the above. You can try to push back against the modern mindset of women but most men don't have any leverage with which they are able to push and the ones who do are busy getting laid so they have nothing to push against
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 02:58 PM
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There are equal numbers but increasingly women are not willing to settle and prefer to stay single if they can't have the man they want, cultural or not the supply demand imbalance is here to stay unfortunately, lots of men will not be able to pair at all with or without kinks
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 09:35 PM
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I don't believe men are in the position to alter the behavior of women given the supply and demand in the dating market, either these men will have to hide such kinks or they are risking to stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 09:26 PM
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What can you do, force them to be turned on by something that is off putting to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 09:16 PM
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You can't blame most women for finding dominating a man a turn off, it sucks to be turned on by this not going to lie
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 09:12 PM
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Yeah I agree there are a minority of guys that probably share his problem
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 09:05 PM
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Why don't you date a trans that would do stuff to you that you probably like, she will probably be in more position to dominate you than a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 09:01 PM
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If you are willing to settle it is never over, if you are willing to relocate to a different country then it is not over, if not probably your mid 30's is where I would put the mark
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 08:50 PM
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Don't get married
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 08:48 PM
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These women are not average in terms of income but that doesn't mean they are not average in terms of what type of men they are attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 10:37 AM
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Of course but I still believe most woman want a man who is at their level or better and that includes income as well
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 10:15 PM
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Yeah I agree they are better but I don't believe the average woman will find guys like that attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 09:30 PM
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Say what you will but once his wife leaves because she cant bear having this pussy around any longer, he will walk with shit ton of her money, he at least deserves credit for that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:40 PM
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It kinda is off putting to me the idea of a house husband, but when I think about the fact that if these women cheat they will be heavily penalized in a divorce makes me actually appreciate these men, it would be hard calling them cucks once they take shit ton of money from these women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:35 PM
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Attractive as in make you wet? or attractive as in ohh look how cute he is, for me if a woman cleans my house I appreciate her more and will treat her better but it doesn't really translate into a physical attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:31 PM
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I don't know about that look at how many women had positive things to say about casual sex in this thread
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 08:39 PM
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No shit, you definitely don't hear that every day. Btw what is up with your flair, first half seems to be from a hip hop song but where does fuck my ex you can keep dat comes from?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 09:29 PM
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Was he a dangerous violent man?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 09:09 PM
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Holy shit how did your romantic life pan out?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 08:34 PM
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Nice one haha
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 08:29 PM
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Are you living in a developing country?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 07:36 PM
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Yeah makes sense, but would you say you have more say than him in the relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:11 PM
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That makes sense there are some women here that believe it is being submissive to cook and clean, your man realizes that you bring a lot of value and he needs to demonstrate value in other regards, I am curious do you see him as being submissive?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:00 PM
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That is my point I don't think this makes you different than the women in this post that said they are submissive, I don't really understand the meaning of this word to them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 05:38 PM
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Yeah either that or women that find men who bring a lot of value and in return they feel they need to offer value in other regards and they call it being submissive, which I am not sure is the actual definition
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 05:19 PM
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So how do you believe you will be submissive to a man? if your husband for instance brings a lot to the table and you decide that you need to offer value and do all the cleaning and cooking, does this makes you submissive?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 05:08 PM
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I agree with you, I also don't need to be in a relationship to be content, but I have met a lot of men that are not like us, without a woman they become depressed and I don't think you can rationally get to these people, you can literally pair a woman to a guy that you believe is a trainwreck and you will see him become happy even though his life is shit in every other aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 05:03 PM
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I said above that it not related to sex, it is more about being totally unwanted romantically, feeling like others are enjoying life while you are stuck behind without any options, if it was purely about sex incels would just go to escorts. There could obviously be other external factors that will make you depressed but it is not mutually exclusive
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 04:55 PM
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I was sure submissive was just a behavior irregardless of it being conscious or not
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 04:51 PM
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Maybe my definition of the word is wrong but my whole life I have seen women being submissive to only very dominant men who never deserved it, I mean there was no give and take, it was much more take than give, and these women were more than happy to give. I think submissive is being confused with being a good wife, you do sound like you are a good wife to your husband but it doesn't strike me like he is way dominant than you in the relationship, just that you feel he brings a lot to the table a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 04:48 PM
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Ohh I see ok
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 04:32 PM
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I am confused so how do you define submissive and is it in the interest of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 04:27 PM
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Lots of shitty jobs in the world, I just don't see why you or anyone else should decide for women that are not coerced what they can or can't do with their bodies
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 04:20 PM
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I thought it is not really a choice but a reaction to an alpha man, you don't really want to be submissive but you get turned on by a true alpha man to a degree in which you do stuff you thought are not logical before. Is this in your interests, no probably not, unless you are lucky enough to find a masculine alpha guy who will never take advantage over the power he holds over you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 04:12 PM
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What the fuck are you talking about I am living in SEA I am not a clueless keyboard warrior, I am telling you from personal experience that women are here are much much smarter than western women and they will make a rag out of you if you do the mistake and fall in love
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 04:06 PM
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It is not lack of sex since these men can go to escorts but most refuse to do so, it is the total lack of desirability and the fact that they are rejected again and again, I believe this will make most people lose their self worth completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 04:03 PM
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It means that if you fall in love with a girl in one of these poor countries she will probably make your her diposable ATM and worse
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 03:59 PM
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was it prior to dating apps popularity?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 09:41 PM
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Technically you are correct on all your points, but do remember that 30% of young men didn't have sex at all in this year, which means they are unable to find relationships, you do understand how this can and probably does cause a mental crisis amount young men right? In the end not all men can act as rationally as you, most are not content with life and some fall into a serious depression
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 09:39 PM
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Men want to fuck around but most can't, hence the resentment
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 09:29 PM
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Being passport bro is a huge win if you don't fall in love, probably the best strategy a western male has
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 09:27 PM
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Yep the world is full of betabux simps no doubt about it, poor guys are walking into a trap that will explode on them in a couple of years, not all of course but a very substantial percentage
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 09:23 PM
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It is if you prefer to be alone than to settle it is completely understandable
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 09:06 PM
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It is for sure their fault, this is a clear cut case but mostly it will be women getting pumped and dumped for years not realizing that they are going for men that are above their own value
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 02:36 PM
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Personally if you would have said this to me I would never consider you for anything serious, they might be just staying around because there aren't any other options that are better
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 02:26 PM
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I don't understand how this is possible, in order to offer casual relationships you need to be successful at it, if you get several lays a year from doing that it just isn't a rational decision at all, at that point a man should prefer a regular relationship, how many men do you believe want casual relations in %?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 09:55 AM
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No one wanted to have sex with them sounds about right to me, but you do realize that the most popular way to find a relationship these days and to find sex both start at dating apps right? In isn't going to help these men if they write in their profiles that they are only looking for something serious which I am sure you can already pretty much conclude since they are not exactly apt at getting casual sex are they, so this theory of yours about thirsty males I have no idea what you are talking …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 09:51 PM
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So you stand by your theory that 30% of men didn't have sex for a year because in reality they will settle for nothing more than having casual sex with lots of women? Or is it the lack of female thirst that keeps 30% of men from not having any sex for a year, because from I can find there isn't an equivalent 30% of women in that age that are not having sex
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 09:40 PM
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I am actually not that familiar with guys like you, I know guys that are attracted to hoes because they tend to be sexually attractive and give vibes that they are down to fuck, then they convince themselves and their friends that these girls are actually good girls and not hoes, but their initial urge comes for sexual attraction not from actually wanting to help. It happens all the time in SEA, but I assume you live in a western country so I don't have much intuition about it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 09:34 PM
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No man you will be cucked time and time again
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 09:17 PM
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Ahh sorry thought you are a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 09:12 PM
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No there isn't, the stigma is only in the poor countries in which the mid and rich class looks down on the poor women and usually older foreigners that come looking for love
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 09:09 PM
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You are correct, there is an endless supply of men in the dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 09:07 PM
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Out of curiosity while not being in a relationship how many men did you have something casual with?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 09:06 PM
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That includes abstaining from sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 09:04 PM
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So you believe that the 30% of young men who never had sex are hardcore casual sex maniacs who will happily remain virgin until they find a girl who will put up on the first date? Interesting theory and all but totally disconnected from reality
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 09:02 PM
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That might be true but is not common in our culture to hear about this, also remember that men that sleep around more are also by definition more attractive and it makes it harder for women to just filter them out
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 09:01 PM
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It makes sense for both men and women to find sexually conservative partners if infidelity in the relationship is a concern, once you get hooked up to the novelty of having sex with new partners you will find a long term relationship increasingly boring, but if you don't really care about your partner fucking around and you maybe plan to do the same then there is really no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 08:58 PM
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I think the truth of the matter is that they know women don't really care about it. So if you are able to have sex with promiscuous women and settle down with a conservative one you have basically maximised your short term and long term returns. So these men are able to do this because most women will not sanction high n-count men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 08:54 PM
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Hook up culture or not but something is definitely making it harder for young men to find women to date
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 08:42 PM
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I see
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 07:19 PM
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In what position were you having sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 07:09 PM
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Does it get more pleasurable with a bigger penis or the opposite?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 07:01 PM
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That is not correct, from my observation the more experience a guy has the more red pilled he is and it doesn't have to be because he is even online, he just has a lot of experience with dealing with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 09:22 PM
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Interesting that poly women are hot, I thought it's a bunch of unfuckable blue haired freaks
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 09:21 PM
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Not sure why you place an importance on being kind, but being fun for sure will make you more attractive to women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 09:17 PM
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Don't forget the simps and just regular guys buying into left wing ideology but not necessarily successful with women, the kinds that you will leave as being your friend but would never fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 09:05 PM
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What percentage of men do you believe are having regular or even semi regular casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:55 PM
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I think most men in this day and age can't even dream of having casual sex, they are having a hard time finding dates which is a much more severe issue
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 06:44 PM
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It is supply/demand, because it is hard to get women for most guys, they are willing to be push overs and eventually it backfires on them because women hate weak men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 04:37 PM
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I don't think the problem of most average men is that they want to sleep around, I think the problem is that they are not able to find women at their own level to date
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 04:33 PM
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You have asked me what should be done against an inequality in the dating market, and I have given you an example corresponding to a progressive view point of rectifying such an inequality, women are more privileged than men because on average they are less lonely and have more prospects in the dating market, thus on net they will pay taxes to men or equivalently perform community service to a greater amount
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 09:15 PM
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Ok so in that case we divide society also in terms of physical appearance and mental health, and the best looking and the happiest people will have to either pay more taxes than the worst looking and miserable people or if they don't have enough money they would have to do community service. Evaluating people on physical appearance will be much easier than mental health because that could be faked, but let's assume for now that there is a reliable way to evaluate the mental health of each citize…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 09:07 PM
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That depends are you a proponent of a progressive tax rate in which at the top bracket the rich should be taxed 50% or more?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 08:51 PM
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Of course they could, do you honestly believe these men were not going to prostitutes?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 08:39 PM
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In the past the median marriage age was at least 7 or 8 year earlier, do you honestly believe the average dude fucks more now than he would of been if he was married?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 08:38 PM
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In the last 80 years I believe today is one of the worst times to be an average man
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 08:33 PM
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Why not? there is a huge inequality between men and women in the modern dating market
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 08:29 PM
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Good point one should at least be consistent with his own beliefs
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 08:28 PM
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Benefits probably less than 10% of men and fucks over the rest
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 08:26 PM
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There are some people who being alone for them is suffering, they are the ones you describe, others do just fine
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 08:56 AM
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Yeah but the question is how content are these 16% usually women want to date at their soci-economic class and above, if I remember correctly in relationships that are not like that women are usually less content and the divorce rate is higher
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 06:52 AM
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Ok I see
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 09:25 PM
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That is cool, were you a teenager in the 90's?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 09:11 PM
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Are you generally going to the club to meet men, or to hang our with your friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 09:10 PM
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You are taking what I say a bit to the extreme, which out of the below 2 scenarios you prefer: a. making 500k a year working long hours and have a 1% chance of finding a man that you truly think is ideal, and about 5% a guy who you are not settling for. b. making 80k a year not working your ass off and having 20% chance of finding someone ideal and 50% chance finding someone you are not settling for. Out of these two I believe most women should choose b, because I have yet to figure out why is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 09:04 PM
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Being a successful career woman will make it harder for you to find a partner that is on your level while giving you the benefit of working harder and maybe buy some more expansive shit that your probably don't really need
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 08:20 PM
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Men want money because money will make them more successful in the dating market, I am curious what will you do with all the money you earn, since it will not make you more successful in the dating market and unfortunately for you it will make your search for a partner that much harder, since there are a small amount of men that are at your level and they are more than eager to settle for a younger but less successful or intelligent woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 08:18 PM
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Unfortunately there is no solving this enormous asymmetry in the dating market, best option for most men is becoming passport bros, most can't anyways so it is not realistic
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 08:13 PM
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I don't know about that but if we look at divorce as a proxy for long term happiness being with the same man or woman, let's just say I rather play my cards being single, you shouldn't ever consider marriage unless you really have a burning desire to have children
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 08:57 PM
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Yeah pretty much
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 08:53 PM
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You are correct most women are normal, the problem is not that most women are like the women on these trash podcasts, the biggest problem is that women on average are attracted to minority of men, it is not that they are bad or whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 08:26 PM
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The problem is that it is dangerous, being a betabux could get you into a nasty divorce down the line
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 06:50 PM
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No one said money is not important, what I said is why do you think the poor deserve more sympathy than the suicidal?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 08:34 PM
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Most people are dreaming of having partners as well, so what is your point exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 08:21 PM
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So you are saying that somehow money transcends all, that it is somehow better to be rich and suicidal than poor and happy?? The demographic of the suicidal is most likely the demographic that suffers the most and thus a moral society would treat them with the biggest amount of sympathy, but apparently we live in a materialistic society obsessed with coveting the money of others. Please explain to me how the poor deserve more sympathy than people who are on the verge of suicide?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 08:11 PM
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Agreed, most of the western will be duped by women from poorer countries, they are ten folds more sophisticated than these men, but a lot of these men don't have many options in their own countries, so the idea to become passport bro is correct just the implementation is idiotic
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 07:57 PM
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I have sympathy for sex trafficked victims, I don't have sympathy for women who want to earn quick buck and choose to do porn, don't try to move the goalpost and change the subject from porn to sexually trafficked women. The people victimised the most from porn are 100% men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 11:06 AM
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How would you even screen for men that will give you support, it is not something you are able to know before going out on a date with a man. The first thing that you will filter on especially if you met through online dating is physical appearance, if you met in real life then charisma and social skills will also be important, I just don't see any way for men to try to show you that they will offer support or be good conversationalist.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 08:20 PM
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I don't have sympathy for women choosing a profession out of their own free will, I do however have a bit more sympathy for men getting addicted to that shit because no one basically tells men that this shit can fuck up your brain similarly to drugs
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 08:15 PM
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Way way less than men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 08:14 PM
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For some it is social issues, for others it is physical appearance or a mix of two. But trust me all of the most lame men you could imagine will get laid, since they are worth something in a poor country
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 08:13 PM
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No you don't get it, the fact that they offer money shows that they don't have anything of value to offer, any man can offer love and support and being a good conversationalist that doesn't require any skill like actually earning the money in the first place. A man who offers money means he isn't good looking enough and charismatic enough to get a woman in any other way, and offering support and the other things you mentioned aren't even a prerequisite for a first date for women, so it is not th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 09:18 PM
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That is actually an optimistic take for a lot of men who would like to offer money to women, but the truth is that most women are well off as it is and don't need men to financially support them. So these men are left with nothing to offer women, so their looks and charisma are not marketable enough of it's own
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 08:54 PM
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No not all, if there is no problem there is no problem
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 08:45 PM
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It is easy for you to take the moral high ground when you are not the one with testosterone in your blood stream and no way of meeting any woman in your own country. In any case both the men and the women exploit each other, believe me it is usually the simps that come to SEA who get rolled over, not the other way around
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 06:41 PM
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What is the problem here? there is a mutual agreement between two consenting adults, why is it an issue if the woman needs money and the man needs romance and they exchange it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 06:37 PM
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I absolutely don't care about moral postering and I honestly don't see these women as victims, more likely that the poor simps that consume that shit are the actual victims, but you are correct that porn is a net negative on society
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 06:24 PM
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Out of curiosity
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 07:05 PM
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I am curious what is your plan for your prime years? are you looking for a guy who you will want to marry in the future, or something less serious than that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 05:19 PM
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As someone who routinely dates younger women, I can tell you that the older the women get the bitter they usually are and also on average less attractive. That is why I believe men prefer dating younger women, but that is not possible in any case in the west so I am not sure on how relevant this debate is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 05:11 PM
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makes sense, the men are overly feminine and the women are overly masculine, and both groups have hard time to find a fitting partner
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:57 PM
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I tend to agree with you that a woman will see you as a loser, but usually you will also lack confidence and social skills because you didn't have any practice as the other men had, so unfortunately most of the time they will be some what correct. It is a viscous cycle in which you are not getting girls because you lack experience, and you lack experience because you are not getting any girls, and that is in the optimistic case in which experience and confidence is the only issue and not your lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 09:05 PM
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Yeah hopefully in the future, thanks :)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 08:54 PM
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Yeah makes sense it is the same in the Philippines, I am actually very attracted to Colombian women, but I seen couple of videos about how dangerous it actually is, it seems like foreigners often have targets on their backs there, so it is unlikely I will travel.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 07:17 PM
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I believe most women who get married compromise, men to a lesser extent
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 06:03 PM
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Never said it is automatic, but I don't believe it is uncommon
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 05:59 PM
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https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/vagina-after-giving-birth#:~:text=The%20NHS%20notes%20that%20it,who%20have%20recently%20given%20birth. The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) does not recommend elective plastic surgery, vaginoplasty, or radio-frequency or laser procedures. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has not approved these for postpartum vaginal laxity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 05:40 PM
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Having babies young is pretty common here, and lots of guys here are sleeping with women that had children recently are not exactly happy with their bodies, but taste varies I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 05:36 PM
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I find that retarded, people should be grouped by a common ideology or interests not by their genitals. Also isn't preferential hiring illegal?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 05:08 PM
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What about strech marks, saggy tits and streched pussy? Beauty aside because maybe you do have a point about wider hips and the like, but the body itself can be wrecked
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 05:03 PM
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What about Tinder data?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 08:48 AM
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We will make assumption based on incomplete data that is part of life
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 09:03 PM
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This data doesn't sit right with data from Tinder at all, I have never used Hinge but I am sure there must be an explanation on why that is, I read that you can actually like a photo or a profile in Hinge and the site you provided counts total amount of likes, so it might be possible that the top users get multiple likes for their photos and profiles from the same users which might explain the very low amount of likes for the bottom 50% of women. So for a woman in the bottom 50%, 99 guys out of …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 07:55 PM
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Men can self-improve wheraes for women if she doesn;t have a great body, pretty face or even some degree of beauty there is nothing she can do. I don't deny that there are a small subset of women who find it very difficult to find a man they desire due to their looks, I am just saying that much more men are in the exact same position and even though you are technically correct and they might be more successful if they are more charismatic or confident but I still believe that not too many men ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 07:42 PM
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Why do they wrap toilet paper around their fingers a couple of times in order to wipe when a single piece would do the same job? Shit you got me there Why do they talk about their problems on and on and get mad when you offer an actual solution! Yeah that is actually common, well you do have a point not gonna lie
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 07:12 PM
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I don't know most of the statistics about online dating usually revolve around Tinder and other dating sites and apps: https://www.cloudwards.net/online-dating-statistics/ But I am not trying to convince you I just wanted to share my thought process on the matter, at this point I think none of us will be convinced to change their mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 06:54 PM
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I think that women are actually not that hard to understand, can I ask what exactly about women you find hard to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 06:48 PM
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Maybe Tinder was 80% male but 40% of couples have met online: https://hackspirit.com/online-dating-statistics/#:\~:text=How%20many%20couples%20meet%20through,couples%20saying%20they%20met%20online. And since we know that women are far more selective in these apps than men, how many of these women have dated men that are out of their relationship market value prior to finding a man who actually was at their RMV, add to that the amount of women who don't want something serious at the current point…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 06:44 PM
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Not sure I agree, men find women more attractive than vice versa which means that there are more ugly men than ugly women, so mathematically for every femcel there is more than 1 incel which puts her in a better position, that is why incels like to say that there are no real femcels just volcels and they do have a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 06:30 PM
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Then how do you explain the swipe right to swipe left ratio of women is abysmally low which is actually backed by the Tinder data, what causes the enormous asymmetry between the swipe right of men vs swipe right of women. Don't you think it is reasonable to assume that the top 5% or 10% of men that are actually successful in Tinder which is an app that mostly let men and women judge each other based on physical appearance are successful due to their looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 06:26 PM
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You are correct never implied that someone is entitled to casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 06:17 PM
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Making a convenient but extremely likely assumption based on the fact that most men have an exponential difficult in getting casual sex and situationships compared to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:56 PM
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You are correct about a small subset of men who fit your description, but usually men marry a woman who is in a similar league to his previous girls, and for women that is often not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:18 PM
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Personally I am for minimal taxation and a very small social net, but I am being consistent with the belief that very few individuals deserve anything from each other, if we start involving the government with wealth redistribution on a broader scale then yes I have issues with how it is being done, moreover I can then see the hypocrisy of people bitching about the rich and not about the beautiful or the extremely well liked
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:03 PM
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Are you saying that a billionaire deserves to be a billionaire while people starve? Are you saying that a billionaire deserves to be a billionaire while people starve? Depends on the people, if they are unable to work I do believe they deserve social welfare. And sure they deserve to billionaires, same as you deserve not to be sodomized by some kissless virgin in the street. Are single parents not working hard? Your waitresses? To be at their level you need more than 15 hours daily work as well …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:49 PM
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Yeah I get what you are saying but I don't agree with how the whole society is oriented to look at people through the prism of how wealthy they are instead of how happy they are, some people can be dirt poor and be much happier than someone who is rich, but this tend to be ignored and that is how you get all these lefty commies obsessed about billionaires while forgetting that these people worked their asses off their entire lives to get to that wealth and probably had to forgo most of their liv…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 09:42 AM
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Even if you can't redistribute love you still might consider it unfair to only look at one metric, it does seem unfair to me for an incel who worked hard for his whole life to become a 90th percentile earner but was and is constantly miserable to then be taken from and given to a poor but very mentally healthy and content young guy that has a wide social network and gets laid frequently. If you can't redistribute emotions and the only thing you can redistribute is money I still fail to see why t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:58 PM
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Yeah I have noticed this as well, what makes it worse is that the dating world is far more imbalanced than modern western economies which makes the socialist types claims even more absurd than they already are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:47 PM
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Sorry man, your best bet would be to get a remote job and move to a country in which it is substantially easier to get laid, if you end up doing that I would also suggest to forget about marriage and children if you are able to do that you would have sweet life
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:42 PM
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The two guys that fucked the most that I know of are misogynists and treat women like shit, both are really good looking
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 09:21 PM
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Wow you sound like the fantasy of every virgin out there, where did you find all these virgins?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 09:13 PM
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You are correct and at the same time I don't see anything wrong with it, it is similar to how the rich don't seem to complain about being rich
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 07:08 PM
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I just can't imagine myself being married, if I would of I would probably offed myself by now
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 08:51 PM
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It's mathematically highly unlikely for men and women to be equally attractive because women are attracted to a much smaller fraction of men, so achieving equality there probably means that the vast majority of people remain single
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 09:37 PM
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Nothing will fix the problems men are having besides maybe realistic sexbots that are way ahead in the future, all that is left is to offer sympathy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 09:31 PM
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And yeah I'm sure it is harder, they turn it into blaming and hating women though. I agree with you that is not the fault of women and they shouldn't be hated
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 09:07 PM
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It used to be that a teenage guy would struggle, but eventually after getting better at dicualixing, growing into his looks etc he'd be fine. I might be described as someone like that actually. Now that kid goes online and hears that he shouldn't bother because women are shallow whores who will only fuck Chad and are incapable of loving him. That is because online dating today is way harder than online dating 10 years ago, it is not that reddit and youtube is scaring these men away, they are dra…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:53 PM
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lol yeah that makes sense, most of the inexperienced guys here are just parroting the life experience of men that had their share of experience with women that is all, sure beats learning female nature the hard way
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:45 PM
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Why would a woman from one of those countries agree to marrying a western guy if it's not to get out of her country? For the same exact reason for which women like to marry rich men in US. The ones who are more traditional probably have better options among their own people, without a culture or language divide. (at least that's true in both my countries, neither of which is the US) Yeah but he will poorer
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:22 PM
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Truth is that the most pessimistic views on women that I have ever heard came from the most experienced men, the most naive and inexperienced men had the most favorable views of women, it might have changed because of all the info online
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:18 PM
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For sure it will be huge
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 08:36 PM
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The reality is that until realistic AI female companions are invented, men will continue to suffer, there is no way around the fact that most women find majority of men unattractive. In the past women were forced to settle due to immense social pressure and because they were financially depended on men, now that none of the above is an issue their true preferences have emerged.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 07:40 PM
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Because usually men or women are not inclined to want to pass a condition onto their children unless they are already in love and just found out their partner has it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 08:08 PM
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Interesting, given that depression is often hereditary.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 06:45 PM
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So you would have no problem marrying and having children with a man who tells you he is on depression medication daily for as long as he remembers?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 06:43 PM
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How is that any different then filtering out people on the basis of lack of intelligence, laziness or any other attribute people are filtering on? Im glad my family listened to my cousin’s cries for help before she turned to alcoholism to deal with her depression I am also glad she did, but that doesn't mean a man shouldn't be able to view it as a red flag, I fail to see how one has anything to do with the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 06:41 PM
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I have never dated a woman above the age of 22 but I trust your word on it, sounds logical that it would be as you describe
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 08:59 PM
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Women are less promiscuous but much more selective than men, so only top tier men reap the rewards basically
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 07:12 PM
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Also, the vast majority of men aren't that impressive physically That is exactly the problem that men are pointing out, to most women men aren't impressive physically, and in apps that are mostly about physical appearance which are used universally that is a huge problem. Let's say I agree with how most women rate men and most men are not physically attractive, that still doesn't change the fact that if you filter out 90% of men then in a group of 10 women you need to be the most attractive one …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 01:01 PM
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Honestly, after I go through enough matches, i’m going to delete those profiles and go to apps that actually let you sort people out by interests. Ok that may well be the case but I am sure that if you start asking your friends ratio and average it out you well get a similar or even higher ratio than yours, and on these apps the swipes are mostly based on physical appearance
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 11:42 AM
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What is your swipe right to swipe left ratio?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 07:20 AM
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Are you or your friends use online dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 09:06 PM
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Also, women who actually follow this AF/BB scenario where she is fucking around with hot douchbags and then settles down with a simp she mistreats are definitely not the norm. In fact, a woman like that would have to be extremely popular with guys to pull that off. How do you know that? you do realize that AF is contextual so for a woman who is 4 an alpha is a 7
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 08:57 PM
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when you see women shaming your sexuality or getting hysterical over "approaches" they are trying to manipulate you Why what do they gain from it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 08:48 PM
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I see, ok in that case you are very lucky I wish I would be attracted to 50% of women my age that is a blessing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 08:31 PM
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Interesting, and would you say you are attractive, average or below average?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 08:14 PM
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If you take the first part literally then I guess you are correct, so in your class room you found half of the guys attractive? I assume you were talking mainly about physical attraction but if I am wrong maybe it makes more sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 07:27 PM
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No way you are attracted to 50% of men your age, that is extremely unlikely
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 05:31 PM
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Why is it upsetting that fat girls are able to bang guys hotter than she is? You’re not obligated to fuck fat girls, so what’s the problem? Why does it bother you that women don’t have to fuck their looks match? If guys want to lower their standards to fuck a consenting adult without commitment, how is that your business? Is it because average looking girls don’t want you for hookups? BTW, to my Americans, fat is your average, so wanting a non-fat girl means you only want 33% of the population, …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 07:41 PM
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Yeah not a big surprise there, having children is probably the biggest mistake a man can have, unless you really genuinely desire children and not doing it because otherwise your wife will leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 04:33 PM
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Of course it is the pick me girls no competition there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 07:57 PM
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I agree with you, the situation is somewhat tragic but it's not women's fault it is just modern dating dynamics at play coupled with decreasing desire to marry for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 09:14 PM
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So what exactly are you telling us, that men who complain that they are unable to get a date let alone a relationship, are secretly denying women because they are after casual sex only?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 08:48 PM
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You are probably are quite good looking to pull this off, not only that but I would guess also a rather social person
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 08:23 PM
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Spot on as far as I see it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 06:13 PM
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Good for you man. One shouldn't take life seriously and understand that the only meaning to life it is to enjoy ourselves in which ever way is possible to us.
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 09:12 PM
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Fuck this guy don't let him get to you, also this stuff is usually fixable via filers which are considered a non risky procedure
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 09:08 PM
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Women in Asia that want a 7.5 inch dick is some what rare but ok. I think in reality she will tell you what ever you want to hear, she wants to make you feel special and by your questions you basically asked her to tell you how special you are compared to other guys, either that or she is a cunt playing games and trying to lower your confidence by hyping up her standards in men. Also if she is not rich herself she most likely is after you passport or money long term
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 09:51 PM
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Ahh ok yeah that would explain it
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 06:25 AM
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Very surprising to me you find him attractive enough to have sex with, how would you rate yourself from 1 to 10 if I may ask
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 09:05 PM
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Makes sense actually, idiots are braver and more aggressive because they are too dumb to know better which women see as confidence. Also not sure if you ever notice this but dumber people are happier than smarter ones, which is also an attractive trait.
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 08:12 PM
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I am not that old but even I remember it used to be better, I was able to get dates even though I probably looked like a 4 at that time
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 03:51 PM
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That is not correct actually you will get much more than an escort experience, it's due to supply demand, there is short supply of men who can get them citizenship. Also if you are white you will probably get a 2p boost over your home country. But you are correct in the sense that it is not real, you just need to not fall in love otherwise you are fucked
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 06:52 PM
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Yeah best of luck man, by 40 you will still slay just don't fall in love and don't give them too much value.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 08:36 PM
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I remember talking to you about the time you spent studying TRP, someone like you would drawn in pussy in the Philippines
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 07:50 PM
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If you are not a sociable and good looking guy you will probably find yourself in a relationship with a woman who is 2p below you and even that will not be that easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 07:09 PM
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It is actually a known fact that incels would date any woman, that is why they say that there is no such thing a woman incel so how did you come to the conclusion that men will not date the bottom 10%.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 06:57 PM
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It is not that bad in terms that eventually a large proportion of men will be able to get married. But if you want to enjoy even a fraction of the success of top tier men in the dating market there simply is no other way. In the west I would be probably a 6.5 or 7, but in SEA I am a 9 and that makes all the difference in the world, currently dating a woman who is 15 years younger, attractive and she is genuinely physically attracted to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 02:41 PM
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It doesn't seem like men can cope though. Women aren't out with "chad" they're out enjoying their lives and careers. Men need to ealizs what's really going on because no way I. Hell are women going back to how things were before. Do you have any data to back up the claim that women today are happier than in the past, because I can provide you with data that will show that the contrary is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 09:01 PM
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In terms of economics I am closer to the positions of libertarians, but I don't agree with them on the role of the state which I believe is a necessary evil so I guess it would put me at center right. Socially very pro free speech, pro LGBT rights but against all the gender nonsense being codified into law. I am probably closer to being black pilled in the sense that I believe there is quite a substantial group of young men who have very slim chance of being remotely successful with women during…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 08:43 PM
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Holy shit good for you
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 08:11 PM
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I didn't hear a lot of men who admitted that they rather be cucked than staying single, are there really a lot of men that would prefer that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 08:40 PM
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Ok man I wish you luck you sound like a good person
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 06:52 AM
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It's a steady process of decline as you say, by 40 I will probably be marginally attracted to my wife if the routine hasn't killed the desire years before. You my think that you will be attracted to your wife for the rest of your life and if you don't have a lot of alternatives, the decision will be much easier. But if you relocate to a country in which it is very easy to hookup with women you decision becomes much harder, I see many men here that fall in love and eventually the women will play …
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 08:58 PM
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Both, don't need to tie myself down to a woman I would probably not be attracted to in several years, if you can live without it, you would be much better off. The highest level is having almost zero emotion towards women, these type of men usually do the best with women.
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 08:42 PM
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Top tier women will be getting commitment from top tier men, the rest will need to choose to stay perma-single or to settle for their actual looks matches, an interesting question is will most choose to settle or to remain virgins, i still believe at least 50% of women will settle in that case, but who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 08:33 PM
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Personally my advise is don't marry, don't have kids, don't fall in love, if you manage all 3 you would live a very stable life
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 06:41 AM
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It can be very rewarding if done right
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 06:40 AM
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Lmao if they are telling to geomax now it's a joke, that was probably the most basic thing you could extract out of living in any western country
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 06:37 AM
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Interesting, so yeah pretty much sounds like TRP is a waste of time as I suspected, but its good to get an affirmation of that from someone who actually tried applied it for a decade.
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 09:17 PM
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Yeah sounds about right to me, what about social game, did all the TRP practice made your improve in that regard, or you weren't awkward to begin with?
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 09:01 PM
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Better channel it into finding a remote job, this will be the only way you would come close to having any real value in the dating market. Not saying they will not be after your money or the dream of citizenship, but they will act very convincingly, you would sometimes be even tempted to believe it is real affection.
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 08:54 PM
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How would you rate yourself from 1 to 10?
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 08:49 PM
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It is not possible to coordinate all men, also very hard to reduce the amount of male thirst that inflates women's value in all the virtual spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 08:20 PM
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I see what you mean, but it somewhat defeats the purpose of the question as I understood it. It is quite reasonable to assume that your value in the dating market is higher than your equivalent male's version, and by equivalent you have to look at which percentile you are in comparison to other woman and that is the same percentile you would be but just as a male. From this assumption you need to decide if you would of wanted to be a male or not, otherwise this question is not a terribly interes…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 07:26 PM
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I think he means that even though you believe you are matched with your boyfriend it might be the case that you are in the 80th percentile for example and your boyfriend is in the 90th, and thus your experience wouldn't be the same as a 80th percentile male.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 06:29 PM
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There is no universal definition of good in bed, personally I like passive and some what quiet women, a lot of men want very active women that are moaning and screaming in pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 08:09 PM
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You need to be very extreme to believe that you are worthless if you are not a virgin, a hoe is more about lack of impulse control and an addiction to novelty.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 08:03 PM
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The faster these come the better, even now there are too many disenfranchised men in the world. Say what you will about them being bitter incels, but at least have the ability to gather some sympathy for them, being shoved to the outskirts of society your whole adult life is a harsh reality to be living at even though you are living in a first world country.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 07:53 PM
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There is no "wall". Women are still being sought out for LTRs well after their 30s at the same rate as in our 20s How is it possible to distinguish someone feeding you lies that he wants a relationship vs someone who actually wants a relationship. Also choosing for a short term partners and choosing for a long term partner who is supposed to say with you for your entire life is totally different, you have much more parameters for the long term partner vs the short term and also you will not be a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:20 PM
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fat girls are on average not attractive, too skinny girls are on average not attractive but still more attractive than fat ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 07:54 PM
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All my life efforts went into ensuring a career path in which I would be able to retire at a young age and work from any place I choose. I hope to be able to experience more of the world in the coming years, but I would be lying to myself if I thought I can achieve what you have, it is just an irreconcilable difference of temperament between us as I gather from your post
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 08:26 PM
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Do what suits your personal interests and don't settle for anyone, you will not be doing any favours to a man you will be settling for anyways, he is better alone than with you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 08:01 PM
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Tell that to Europe who imported millions of muslim refugees, let's see in the next 50 years who will die off first
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 08:00 AM
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They will tell you what you want to hear, they know the script they know men in the west are not getting any pussy, I have seen girls here get guys from Europe to send them money every month. If you want a good girl here don't go to the apps, but I agree it is very possible to get a good girl, and your results would be almost infinitely better than in US
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 09:04 PM
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I agree, I don't see any reason to get married unless you really want children
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 09:00 PM
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Tinder is full of money seeking women in poor countries, not that there is anything wrong with it, just be aware of the kind of women you will be getting
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 08:57 PM
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There will be no evolution, western civilization is dying off and will be replaced be religious ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 08:55 PM
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IMO one of the biggest mistakes men make is to marry in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 08:51 PM
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May I ask how would you rate yourself compared to other woman your age from 0 to 100, so 80 would be you are better looking than 80% of women your age. And also do the same with the two men who you were attracted to compared to other men their age.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 08:46 PM
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Holly shit western countries are totally fucked, thank god I am in SEA
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 08:49 PM
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These are men who lie to themselves. They do not realize they are ugly. I think some of them lie to themselves, others think that the women love them because they help them and their families, and some just enjoy having the power over the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 07:30 AM
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Short answer is yeah I don't have an issue with that as long as the act is convincing enough, probably in our life time this problem will definitely be resolved when realistic AI sexbots will be created, but until that time comes I have no issues with being with a woman who don't really finds me attractive. I view not caring as strength not weakness, the less you stress out on things in life the better you will be, I see a lot of ugly people walking with young attractive girls here and I often w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 09:01 PM
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I think this lacks nuance, I believe the best argument young men can have is the following: There is a difference between the men women choose to date and the ones they end up marrying, since women marry at 30 on average you have about 12 years in which women are free in theory and in practice to share a small group of men among themselves up until the point they are forced to pick one man long term for marriage. This is of course the product of free choice, but none the less it is easy to see h…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:25 PM
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I guess I can't make you face reality, it is very clear why women in their 30's have harder time dating than in their 20's, I get it I see many people around me who don't want to face reality I am used to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 12:14 PM
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I don't really see the math behind what you are saying. You all seem to disregard the fact that marriage takes 1 man and 1 woman, the fact that there are so many incels to begin with and so many undatable men, must mean that the same amount of women will remain single since it is impossible to share men for marriage. You personally might be of higher value then the women who will have such a fate, but that doesn't change the fact that these women will have to remain single and some of them due t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 08:25 PM
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He didn't ask whether it gets easier for men who can't get women in their 20's, he asked in general. I believe the answer is yes actually since women become more desperate they will be more willing to settle for their actual match in the dating market. Basically because marriage is 1 man to 1 woman they will be priced out of the calibre of men they used to date casually when they were younger, some will decide to stay perma-single others would settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 08:12 PM
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Do you support polygamy? if not then all you are doing is basically fucking over average men self esteem up until the age most women want to settle down, since there is no real competition between a 50th percentile man and a 95th percentile man in short term relations, and even if only 15% of women prefer to casually date until they are married you are creating a huge imbalance of fewer relationship seeking women than relationship seeking men in the age bracket of 18 to 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 08:27 PM
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Men aren't confused at all, the knowledge is quite common now that you need to be top tier in attractiveness to have casual sex, I don't see any confusion about that. Which isnt true, its just the man in question is ugly So the men that can't get casual sex are ugly because they are not in the top 95th percentile? Let's say you are right so what does it mean for the majority of women who ends up marrying these men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 07:04 AM
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I tend to agree with what your are saying as a likely cause, it's tough to compete with men since we are more hardwired for competition and we actually have a profound use for money, women on the other hand have less use for money, since they will not be able to improve their dating status of marriageability via money.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 07:00 AM
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women are happier for the first time in history Women actually are increasing unhappy, women seem to have been happier with less freedom. https://law.yale.edu/sites/default/files/documents/pdf/Intellectual_Life/Stevenson_ParadoxDecliningFemaleHappiness_Dec08.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 09:18 PM
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You are quite correct in what you are saying, but women mainly have advantages in short term dating vs men. Since it is impossible to share men in marriage this becomes a disadvantage later in life. What I mean by this is that lets say there are 15% of men who could of developed into normal marriageable men 30 years ago, but now due to the dating dynamics they become incels or they opt out of western societies all together. You will not feel the absence of these men until you are ready to marry …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 09:09 PM
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I tend to agree but it is not practical to fill SEA with young caucasians that is akin to a genocide almost, nor is it possible anyways. The problem is that eventually these guys will get married but probably close to their 30's and this is a very tragic reality for these men that their parents and grandparents haven't actually experienced, this is a rather new phenomena we are dealing with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 09:13 PM
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Do you even deal with women if you are bi? sounds like playing the game in hard mode to me
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 09:08 PM
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Not sure if correlation means causation in this case, it is possible that women don't want to marry sick or poor men and their longevity is probably lower than non sick and non poor men. We need to filter these types of men from the data to have a more clear answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 09:16 PM
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I got so used supporting women and I don't think I can go back to regular relationships, it is great to be able to support a woman financially and not be bothered by other stuff like being in top shape (i am talking about top 90th percentile) or be amazing in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 09:01 PM
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can confirm if you are able to earn western $ in SEA you will be highly successful with 0 effort. But take in mind that the girls that will be after you are mainly looking for money, if this doesn't disturb you, you can have as many as you want
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 09:19 PM
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B
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 09:45 PM
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61% of hetero women cum, wow that is shocking I thought it is lower. I think in the Philippines at least 20% would be content of never having any penetrative sex at all if they could, 30% are lukewarm, 30% think its fun and 20% really love it. I wouldn't really bet my money on anything women do in bed, wouldn't be surprised if none of them come.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 09:36 PM
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I don't believe in shaming, but it is still an act of service since it is perfectly reasonable to use the amount of partners as a proxy for long term fidelity. It is logical that there is a correlation between the amount of partners you have had and at minimum either your mate selection patterns or your ability to be in a committed relationships for long periods of time. The shaming should deter women from acting against the interests of the majority of men who are looking for long term commitme…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 09:28 PM
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They treat you better because they would really love to make them and their families financially secure, they will basically try to find out what kind of woman you are looking for and try to become her, but it is more similar to how you would try to improve in your job it doesn't have a real parallel to how dating works in the west. But for 80% of men the treatment they will get from such women is not comparable to what they will get from women in their native countries even if it is not coming …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 09:47 PM
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I am a passport bro but mainly because of the non existent taxes, can confirm it is extremely easy to get laid, but many girls in app are borderline prostitutes. It is still not that difficult to find a young girlfriend that would treat you much better than a western woman will. I don't really resent western women either, just like in any other market, they take the advantages that they are given by the supply demand imbalance, as do I in this point in time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 09:12 PM
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