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Not at all, quite the opposite. You entered the conversation and I took you seriously and you immediately opted to allegations of bad faith with no intent to justify your claim, and then you initiated the personal insults. Your ret-conning of this conversation is refuted with the scroll of a mouse wheel. So your allegation of behaving child-like is refused and I'll let how you conducted yourself in the discussion and even in this response from you dictate who has been more child-like. I proved m…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 12:19 AM
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No, it's called an argument and you couldn't account for it. I did prove you wrong, and I'd be a bit more respectful after the fact if you weren't disrespectful. Who uses "a real catch" in the context of friendship? Is that as far as people ever considered you as a "catch"? As a friend? Tragic. We can move on now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 03:54 AM
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I'm comfortable with this conclusion. Take care.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 09:12 PM
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Answer the question. The difference here is your responses are trying to find ways around the truth, mine is to pinpoint it, hence why simply getting you to answer questions is becoming too tedious to humour for much longer. Answer the question or I'll be comfortable enough to know you can't, hence why you won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 03:51 PM
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In terms of average people with average finances, with no extra qualifiers, same question. You're not sneaking out of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 02:48 PM
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That didn't answer my question, I already addressed that portion and followed it up with the one I'm requesting you answer now. Last chance before I move on because it's becoming evidently clear you're refusing to answer because it becomes inconvenient to your initial talking point. You're even refusing to simply copy and paste the response so that you can leave it vague and that I can't directly point out which response you're referring to and why it's irrelevant to the follow up question I gav…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:07 PM
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Copy and paste that answer for me then, or feel free to repeat it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 04:50 PM
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Answer the question. I'm not debating you to have the debate. If you don't want to further the conversation that's fine, I'm not owed your time but I'm not moving from this question, nor debating if it's justified. Answer it and you can have my response and we can argue if it's relevant after the question has been answered.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 04:39 PM
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No, I'm pinning you to the question you keep trying to squirm out of, and it seems I've done it that you're just refusing to answer. I want an answer to that question. It's "more" but is it the "Bulk" of the child raising experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 02:53 PM
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Nope. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:40 PM
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Uh-huh. So men spent a bunch of money, got rejected, and were just like, "Nah, keep it." It didn't happen. The fact you think this is believable at all speaks to the level of disconnect you have. Your ego is bruised because you don't like the idea of men not wanting you, hence why you immediately insulted these men despite not knowing them. Nope, you don't laugh. These men are getting what they want from it and the women are getting what they want from it. They're laughing at you being upset by …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:18 PM
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Uh-huh. What country do you live in now? Yes you do, which is why your instant reaction to them is to insult them. You don't know these men, you just assume they're bad because they're looking for love in a way that disqualifies you, so you insult them. Who wants them? The rest of the world, it seems given their success rate. Also, not all passport bros do so because they're unwanted, they do it because they don't want Western women. Big difference. You need to assume they're ugly unwanted men s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:00 PM
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You didn't prove anything, you just made claims. So you're a Right Winger who supports a movement that spiked up as a response to the Right Wing winning. Got it. You're lying. So let me get this straight, when women don't want to date Western men, it's because men are mediocre, when men don't want to date Western women, it's because men are mediocre. Got it. You just don't like men, because you're a Feminist. Passport bros do well in the countries they go to, so if Western women are the ones tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:44 PM
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Nope, otherwise they simply wouldn't talk to me nor would they express their like of men. Non sequitur, I'm afraid. No, I haven't misunderstood, you're just repeating yourself over and over. Yes, divorces increased after no fault divorce, however as it stands now, as in today, divorce is decreasing despite it. You're refusing to acknowledge this because you can't accept it because you're bitter. I will repeat this answer every time you try to avoid it by repeating your claim that it addresses. :…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:22 PM
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Oh! Yeah, me too. I volunteered! For the elderly! All I heard was praises for men! Amazing! Only 2 said men were bad. See how meaningless this is to the argument? Wrong, divorces have been reducing for the past few years. There has been an increase but recently it has been decreasing. You didn't even acknowledge this because you want it to be the case. Yes, single lonely men, single and lonely, not simply single. I already addressed this. If loneliness was exclusively linked to being single, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:53 PM
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No, they didn't. I can comfortably say this because you're too caught up in a fantasy, and this isn't a topic that's exclusively talked about to women. It may have happened with you, but you're an individual, you're a woman, you're not all women, or even most, so you speak exclusively for yourself. I can give an opinion, I am here. There's nothing you can do about that. You're also objectively wrong. Divorce rate actually has been decreasing. Google is a friend. Some food for thought. Do you kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:56 PM
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It's "more" but is it the "Bulk" of the child raising experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:39 PM
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But how? That's 8 hours 5 days of the week, 7 hours free time with 8 hours of sleep. I work 40 hours, find time to work out and still have so much time during the day. I feel like my brain is being messed with looking in to this perspective. What do you guys do during your free time? Where does all that free-time go? What do you do with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:35 PM
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Half of these aren't regular basis chores, and that should tell you something. Cleaning shouldn't take more than 2-3 hours if done daily. Grocery shopping isn't a daily thing if you do a week's supply run. Planning meals shouldn't take an hour, and you can even make schedule meals and keep it in rotation on a weekly to monthly basis and stick to that routine. Making appointments isn't a regular thing unless your child has some sort of illness or something. Doing taxes isn't something you have to…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:29 AM
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You're right to assume OP does not fit such a description. Haha. Believe it or not, men of all walks of life will disagree with you. It's easier to accept this so that your hopes aren't shattered when someone doesn't fit any of this description and still has opinions you disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:17 AM
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And your argument is that these things require more work and effort than the actual child minding portion of raising a child, which most here have said is the hard part?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:07 AM
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....Planning, modeling, and managing is also part of looking after a child that isn't yours when they're under your care. So, I want an answer to my question. Or we can cut the BS and acknowledge that this question cuts through what you said and you don't have an answer to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:32 AM
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I chuckled at this. She's more cut throat about it than I am. Hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:17 AM
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This is still not answering my question. I will just move on if you don't engage with the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 02:56 AM
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I see what you're saying now. My argument would be that when the child is at school, the SAHP wouldn't be cleaning the whole time and would have free time during most of that time, and therefor that free time would be compensated for after the child is home to make up the difference. For example, if someone is working 8-9 hours and she cleans for 2-3 hours during the school day, should they be expected to go 50/50 when they come home?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 02:08 AM
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Can you reword what you mean? I'm not entirely sure what you mean by this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 01:36 AM
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But why couldn't you do mentally stimulating things as hobbies after you have done the chores and the child is still at school?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 01:04 AM
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No, answer my question. If the work required to be a SAHP is hard because raising a child is hard, and you believe raising a child is simply work, and therefor work that can be used for employment, where does your claim come from that I can't have experience in the parts of raising a child that's relevant to the topic of how hard the job is. Answer that question, I'm not moving from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 01:02 AM
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I'd say homeschooling changes things entirely. That very much would be as hard as a job, and harder than many jobs. Appreciation is needed for the role.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 12:09 AM
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Okay, and what part of that addresses the point that the "work" you're describing entails the very "work" that is required that you believe makes being a SAHP hard? Or are you saying child care is the easy part of being a SAHP, to which this is only going to make my argument that much stronger...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 12:08 AM
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What's just work?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 09:21 PM
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Yeah, well in that situation I can get your perspective because he shouldn't have been doing any of that to you. He failed his half of the responsibility. He was supposed to make you feel secured in financials. I'm more so talking about in the ideal situation where the working partner is doing what they're supposed to and the SAHP is doing what they're supposed to, as a team. Sounds like your ex was not a team player and ruined the partnership that should have been in play.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:34 PM
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I don't get paid for it. Quick question. Is the mother who had to outsource childcare to me less of a parent, because this standard is something your comment heavily implies and it goes down a road you really haven't considered with what it implies.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:32 PM
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No they didn't. Some did, I'm sure, but most didn't because most were in support of it. Again, most women didn't agree with the suffragettes. You just completely ignored my response to this point in my prior reply. Statistics don't say that. I'm familiar with the study you're referring to. Even the one responsible for that study had to come out and discredit an author who used their study for their book to make the argument you claim. The reality was that the happiest people were married men and…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:30 PM
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Not at all, but you're not even trying to engage so I'll move on to someone else. Thanks for your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:24 PM
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Did you not feel quite bored during the office work portion of your life? I agree, the average is about 2 children with a 2-4 age gap, which is around the time things get easier with the first child, but close enough to extend the initial hardships of parenting for two years, but after that point things get easier. Once that threshold of having two children past the 3-4 age mark kicks in, would you agree things start getting drastically easier? Sure, I can see that but I'm talking about SAHP in …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:23 PM
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You'd be surprised how many do just that. Most SAHM I know (Not all, or most, just ones I know) do this or the equivalent. It's crazy to me. But yes, they're relieved because then for half the day they just need to do the household chores. At that point onward, being a SAHP is much easier, and that's my point. If I can concede that early stages of parenting is hard, surely you can agree that there's a certain point early on after the initial few years that it gets significantly easier and contin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:10 PM
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Honestly, it sounds like your personal past relationship may be influencing your position here. I don't believe it's 24/7, children are at school half the day most of their lives. Your pay would be your partner's income, the money he earns isn't "his", it's the family unit's, bonuses and all. You would get breaks because children are at school and household chores shouldn't take the entire school day, and kids play or watch shows. As they get older and more independent, this happens more frequen…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:30 PM
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Oh, I wasn't talking about you. When I used "You" I meant someone in general that laid that at my feet under those conditions. I'll keep in mind to make that more clear. With that cleared up, what do you think of the comment I made with that confusion cleared up? Would you agree that what you were suggesting was unfair, and if not, what is your response to my response?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:24 PM
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Genuine question. Why can't the SAHP go for a shower before the partner goes to work? In a completely different manner, yes I have. I used to support the mentally disabled, I'd have screaming so loud that sometimes the paperwork would vibrate, and that's when they were happy. I've also had to cook meals while a violent one would be about to get to violence. Having to hide sharp objects out of line of sight while you prepare food was...Interesting. Lol. No, not at all. I'd be looking after the ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:22 PM
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What kind of work have you done? Question sounds rude, I'm not judging, just so I can apply it to my perspective in the convo. My point isn't that SAHP doesn't go beyond the 3-4 year mark, just that the trend of the role gets easier from that point, that if I was to concede that the responsibilities up until that point, which I will agree is the hardest portion, the rest of the role after that point which is the majority of the time you'll be parenting, is much easier. Well the easier part would…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:18 PM
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Hmm, I'd disagree. A fully grown man with the mind of a child who screams when they're happy, which is so loud it's on risk assessments and vibrates paper on surfaces was not pleasant, who will fly off the handle and get violent to themselves and others if not happy was pretty heavy. I've worked in those conditions for 12 hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:08 PM
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So you would have a good amount of free time but not know what to do with that free time to feel fulfilled. Do you think if you structured your life to ensure you had people to socially engage with and engaged with hobbies that did keep you occupied and feeling productive, on your own terms, that this problem would be mitigated and something you could find yourself happy with?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:03 PM
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With multiple kids it can get more messy but I can't imagine it being messy to a point you'd have to take too much time, especially if you're picking things up and encouraging the children to do the same as they play. The kid I would look after would be made to play with toys only after the last toy they played with was put away, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:01 PM
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They didn't. In fact even with things like the vote, most women opposed it than supported it because they specifically didn't want to have to be forced in to the male gender role. They were, women's happiness rates have plummeted between those days and now. Also, being a SAHP doesn't mean you're treated like crap or are a slave. 4B isn't a thing, it's just a thing a minority Leftist women are taking up and forget about within a year. It's a publicity stunt by a few that think the world wants to …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 06:59 PM
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The chores I'm speaking about are the basics, washing machine, hoover, etc. If we add more gadgets such as dishwashers etc, I'd say it's even easier. No, not a SAHP, but I've had responsibilities that tap in to the role. I'm not complaining about the SAHP having some time to themselves, I think it's a good thing if they can get the responsibilities done and then have that time throughout the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 06:54 PM
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So you missed out on the experience of being raised by a SAHP. Not saying you turned out bad or anything, not anything like that, but I think a child raised by a parent is more ideal than someone paid to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 06:52 PM
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Maybe. Kids get much easier as they age within that five years though. Once those five years are up, would you agree things get easier?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 06:50 PM
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No, it's not the same, I can understand why some won't like it but I also understand that if you're with a trusted and reliable partner, it can also be a better thing. Depends on your perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 06:49 PM
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Who looks after the kids now? Genuine question for the purpose of my next response.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 06:48 PM
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Already committed. You're too late. >:)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 06:45 PM
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You couldn't be a SAHP that is efficient and enjoys the work?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 06:39 PM
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I'd disagree and agree at the same time. No, it's not the full role of a STAP, but it was the same responsibilities for half the required time. I was fully invested, I love the kid. She's family to me at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 06:38 PM
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Knew that would work. Haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 06:36 PM
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Yeah, those can be some hectic ages. Is this your first child? Your last message honestly sounded like you were being too hard on yourself. I need to hit the hay.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 09:07 AM
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You don't think you can find meaning in life without a meaning being outsourced to you by a business or company? Like hobbies, productive or otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 09:04 AM
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Who raised you when you were an infant if both were working before going in to education as a child?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 09:03 AM
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That's not what bad-faith is. I wouldn't need to have any experience looking after a child to hold these opinions, and it's not your scapegoat here. You're not obligated to have this conversation and there's plenty of people here I can converse with, so I'm not sure why you came here looking for a way to end a conversation you weren't willing to engage with as if the conversation ends because you won't engage, I can just move on to those that will. Also, you don't have to be a primary care giver…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 09:01 AM
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I wouldn't even put it up to 6 years old, I'd say around 3-4 things get drastically easier. I can't rely go in to the job part without prying, so I won't intrude. Sure, but we're still condensing all the criticisms of the role to a small bracket of the timeline of parenting. If I could be told I have to work my butt off for 3-4 years and then live the rest in relative ease, I'd take it. If I was to say, "Yeah, the first few years are atrocious, but 4-18 is easy" would you say that with this in m…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:52 AM
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Personally, I've cared for the mentally and physically disabled as one of my former jobs, I don't know if I could say looking after a child and that role are similar, I'd take the SAHP position in a heartbeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:39 AM
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Do you feel like if you were still a SAHM at this stage and remained one from this point forward you'd have more time to spend on yourself and from seeing your other children grow up that as your youngest grew older, and you would be able to remain a SAHM until they reach adulthood to which you may be able to be a SAHW that your life would open up to even more time to do the things you wanted at your leisure, on your terms, assuming your partner was reliable in maintaining the financials in a si…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:37 AM
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They don't? I've looked after a kid. Granted, not my own, but for half the week+ I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:31 AM
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Let me rephrase. Necessary to meet the ideal. Hmm. Maybe you see it that way, I quite enjoyed playing a big part in raising a kid. Didn't feel degrading at all, felt pretty humanizing tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:30 AM
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Nope. Most experience I have is looking after a family friend's kid most of the week from infancy. Mother is a business owner and her father got locked up for some heinous stuff. She needed a hand, I had days off, so she asked and I agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:28 AM
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Depends what you mean. Laid back in attitude for sure, but I like to keep busy. Always something to do, and I like being busy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:25 AM
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Did you respond to the wrong person? Nothing you replied to me with covers anything I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:23 AM
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May I ask, how old is your youngest now? It's relevant to what my next argument would be. I don't have children yet, desperately want one but need to finish a few things first. I did look after a family friend's child most of the week as she's a business owner and single parent. Not full parenthood but enough to get a feel for the role. I'd look after her on my days off on top of having a full time job. Not many days off I have, but I liked looking after the kid. She's in school now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:22 AM
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Yeah, I would agree with that. I'm speaking more as you get in to the grove of things and find that confidence switch, maybe to not think you're doing everything perfectly but know you're doing the necessities, which is pretty much what you explain in the next part and I agree with. I think yours is a fair comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:16 AM
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I guess this may just come down to a difference of what you take value from. There's a girl I've helped raise from shortly after birth as her father got locked up for some heinous stuff and the mother is a family friend. Helping raise her and giving her a male role model is something I deeply value, and seeing her grow into a smart kid full of confidence actually gave me a lot of self-actualization on the important things in life and made me feel the most fulfilled. I agree entirely with the sec…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:14 AM
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Okay, I'm not trying to be rude and I genuinely think my sleep deprivation is hitting my cognitive abilities here. Could you give me an example of what you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:08 AM
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Hmm, I just must be different here. I enjoy cleaning and listening to podcasts or E-books while I do it. I feel it's a nice break from my job while being productive towards my standard of living. My partner will get annoyed when I do it on my days off as she feels like she's getting to shirk responsibilities at my expense. I personally didn't find the child part annoying either. When I was helping raise a child most days of the week I never felt too drained. They just crawled around and were eas…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:07 AM
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Do you think if you stuck it out as they grew a bit older and your time was freed up as a result that you'd reach a point where you had time to do things you enjoyed without having to rely on a job for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:03 AM
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Why weren't you able to find time to do things that engaged your brain power?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:01 AM
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Could you reword what you mean? I'm not grasping what you're intending, it may be because I'm sleep deprived atm.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:00 AM
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I'm sure there's an argument for it, but I'm more so talking about the ones that remain SAHP that don't pick up a job, even if they're the minority of the case. I think we pretty much agree on things.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:59 AM
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It sounds like you're making the point that it's not hard but necessary, which is something I 100% agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:58 AM
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I'm not trying to insult you here, I'm sure you're doing absolutely fine, but do you think you may be letting your child get away with too much and perhaps it's time to focus on boundaries? I had the same thing with the child I look after, establishing boundaries and reasserting that I'm not their toy (obviously in a tone kids are more likely to grasp than I'm explaining here) that will drop everything for their amusement done wonders. She started to be able to do things on her own and became mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:56 AM
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What made it harder?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:47 AM
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Would you also agree that past that period of time, and for most of the child's life where they aren't small, these problems resolve, therefor making the role extremely easy? I would say that in totality, it is, for the reason above. For sake of argument let's say I agree that what you described is harder, it's but a small fraction of the overall time of the role, a role that will one day not have to be fulfilled as children grow up, and at a certain age those issues no longer are prevalent, whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:46 AM
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I'm speaking in totality. Are there periods where it may be difficult? Yes, but what you described is a very small bracket of time of a child's childhood, where everything you just explained stops happening, which is where the majority of the SAHP responsibilities are. I'm not sure how you've never had a job like that before but kudos to you. Yes, day care workers get breaks, but so do SAHPs. Kids nap. I'm also not advocating that the father is expected to have zero interaction with the child th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:43 AM
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I would argue that if you find it harder then it's because it's not something you could effectively do. I've looked after a child and done the chores, they were the easiest days I looked forward to and would gladly make my role not only because I enjoyed it but because it gave me a lot of free-time and time to do things while doing those responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:35 AM
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I believe you can only lose your identity if you aren't managing it properly and doing a bad job of it. In the modern age with all the help for this role specifically, you shouldn't be at a point where you have no free-time. If you're at that point, you're doing something wrong and probably dragging your feet with your responsibilities. I've seen this be the case with most of the mothers I personally know (Not saying all or most are like this, just enough for this to be my experience). If you're…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:33 AM
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Yeah, I would agree. Things do get harder the more children are involved but I still say it would still be easier than a job, although the first year or two can have it's struggles. I'm more so arguing in totality, being a SAHP from start to finish with the fact the role becomes easier as time goes on to the point, which constitutes the vast majority of the SAHP. So while it has it's struggles early on, it will also early on start getting easier and easier when the children are aging.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:25 AM
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Yeah, I can see that but I'm particularly debating the difficulty factor, unless you're factoring in boredom as being difficult to handle mentally, but I suppose I can expand my argument to that too. Most jobs are monotonous, so this isn't a particular criticism to the specific difficulty of SAHP. I would argue that you are afforded less boredom with this position compared to the average job. Being a SAHP allows you access to forms of entertainment and free-time. Doing household chores allows yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:19 AM
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You are getting paid, your partner's money is the household money, which also includes your money. You're technically being paid because the money being earned is going to you too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 06:46 AM
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You do know that kids sleep, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 06:44 AM
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I've looked after a kid on my days off, doing the chores while I listen to Youtube videos, get a workout in, and play some video games while I wait for the kid to come back from school, then get to sit and play fun and games or watch some Sonic shows, picking up mess as I go while they help. There's no way in hell I'd give that up if it was between that and working a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 06:43 AM
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The awesome thing is, they can totally do this if they're not dragging their feet with the household responsibilities. I've had days off where I look after a kid, had a blast, been able to do the chores, been able to get a work-out in, and been able to socialize. How are you guys not able to do this when women in the past were, who averaged five children, without the help of modern technology to help with chores or modern entertainment to help entertain children and yourself as you do the househ…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 06:39 AM
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He's 100% in the right though. We have advanced so much specifically in areas that help with these responsibilities and you guys are somehow complaining less than women of old that averaged five children with none of these advancements in technology that mitigates workload and entertainment that keeps the kid entertained. It's insane. The kid is in the education system for half the day for most of their lives, you get to be home and take advantage of access to modern forms of entertainment while…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 06:36 AM
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Nope, it doesn't. Kids for the vast majority of their lives know how to clean their own mess, and even if they don't you're talking about a few toys that take 5 to 10 minutes to clean up. Laundry isn't hard, you put them in the washing machine and hang them up. Homework for a child can take 30 minutes to an hour. School obligations? What school obligations? You've intentionally left this vague. Art projects aren't a common occurrence. Bath time takes 20-30 minutes. Getting them ready in the morn…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 06:28 AM
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That's not a lot to do at all, and you have every modern form of entertainment at your leisure to do these things. Cleaning does not take long when you are doing it daily. Ironing does not take hours long when you are doing the laundry daily, which the washing machine does. Cooking does not take long and most time spent on it is the oven. To say those things take the entire day to do only shows that YOU don't know how to run a household efficiently
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 06:15 AM
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That is an absolutely ridiculous standard. Kids are in the education system for most of their lives for half the day, so if your partner finishes a 9-5 job, you're looking after that child 100% for 1-2 hours maximum while he's been working 100% of 8 hours, only to then be told that he has to then do 50/50 when he gets home? That's insane, and you better believe if you landed that on my lap I'm reducing my hours and you're finding your ass a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 06:09 AM
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But I don't understand how people can get overwhelmed with it. We're at the best moment for technological convenience that mitigates the bulk of chores and entertainment for children to keep them occupied while you do chores. Women of the past averaged 5 kids without all of these advancements and didn't complain nearly half as much. Could you imagine sitting down with one of those women and saying the same to her as she sees a woman complaining about having to raise one kid with all I mentioned …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 05:53 AM
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I have, and I do, and I have a full time job. If cleaning is taking you the entire day then you are the problem. Mopping a floor isn't hard. Doing the dishes doesn't take long. Cooking alone doesn't take 2-3 hours, and it's absurd to even suggest it. The food may be in the oven for that long but even then it's a stretch. AN HOUR OR TWO TO DO THE DISHES?! Yeah, no, you're fucking with me. No way you are being serious. This is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 07:53 PM
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I'm sorry, but no. If you're getting overwhelmed looking after a child, you're doing something wrong and it's not your partners responsibility to unburden you from you obligations. Kids are at school for half the day 5/7 days a week. Housework takes 2-3 hours to maintain if done daily. If you can't take care of those chores by the time your husband is back, you're doing something wrong and you're deciding to do that wrong thing and expecting him to pick up your slack. Also, comparing having stuf…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 09:52 AM
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The hypothetical is that the women are enthusiastic and want to be in this line of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 05:00 AM
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No, we don't, because it's not part of the hypothetical. The hypothetical is that they decided to do this because they enjoy that line of work. The hypothetical isn't going to change here. You're free to engage with the hypothetical but I'll be moving on to the others here that work within the hypothetical if you're not comfortable with doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 05:00 AM
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They're not different things because the prostitutes are willing, enthusiastic for the business, and were not forced in to the business and chose to because they enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:57 AM
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Some do. Not all prostitutes are forced in to the lifestyle. However, we don't need to argue this because the hypothetical in this question is that the prostitutes enjoy their job and were not forced in to it. No, the last request does not work because both men and women know that ease of access to hook-ups widely differs between men and women, hence why I introduced this hypothetical where men have a more equal ease of access to sex and how women would feel about such men that engage in that ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:55 AM
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Why are you against prostitution?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:46 AM
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I did chuckle, you got me. For sake of argument, let's say you can't make it or that it's a boys night out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:45 AM
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Large body counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:43 AM
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Oh, so you did. My apologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:42 AM
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If he used sex workers enough times to reach 7-8, would you have the same opinion? If so, do you oppose sex work?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:23 AM
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Kiiiiiiind of, yes but only in very particular cases. I'll give an example. If a woman is very pro-mass immigration of people from a culture that has very barbaric views of women, if one such man was to attack a woman that voted and promoted a political climate which promoted that man being able to be in the community which led to her being a victim of such a man, I'd probably keep walking. My justification being that she got that man in to the community and if it wasn't her being targeted, it m…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:21 AM
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Thank you very much for answering my questions. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:15 AM
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Thank you for answering. If I could ask a follow up. If there was a party where a lot of prostitutes were attending (not a sex party) due to mutual friends, and your partner was invited, and these prostitutes are open to taking business throughout the night, would you be comfortable with your partner attending this party knowing his past?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:14 AM
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How do you feel about men who have the same view of women with large body counts?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:11 AM
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....Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:11 AM
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I wouldn't even portray it as this. There are men who simply use sex workers because it's more time-efficient and less complications with potential hook-up partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:10 AM
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I'm not sure if your analogy entirely maps on. You're comparing the prostitute usage to a man being friendless. A more in line analogy would be that the man has friends but they're all Xbox players and he's a PlayStation player, and there's a new exclusively 2 player game, so he hires someone to play the game. The man in question isn't ugly or unattractive, let's just say he can hook up with women if he wanted the old fashion way, but he just wants to hire prostitutes as to save time and not hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:09 AM
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You're the first to take this approach, so if you don't mind could I ask a different question regarding the matter? If not, that's fine, just ignore this. If there was a party and there were prostitutes at this party, not exclusively just prostitutes but a good amount of them, NOT a sex party, there's just a party that for whatever reason consolidated a good amount of prostitutes (maybe mutual friends from some circles), and they're willing to take some business, but it's not the aim of the part…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:05 AM
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Do you oppose sex work?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 03:58 AM
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Just a hypothetical.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 03:57 AM
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If you take issue with large body counts regardless of them being male or female, I see that as fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 03:57 AM
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They are when both are willing and enthusiastic about it. The problem here is there is a large gap between the average man and woman when it comes to the ease of access to a large amount of sexual partners. This question is about bridging that gap in a realistic way to see how women feel about men who have as much ease of access as women do with men sexually. So far, women don't like it. Personally, I believe women know about this ease of access distinction and that when you take that difference…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 03:55 AM
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It is. High body count is simply referring to how many people you have slept with. How would you feel about dating such a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 03:50 AM
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It won't change her mind even after it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 03:49 AM
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Not always true. I'm physically in better shape than the vast majority of men, large muscle mass, etc. I've even recently had to use my strength to step in to help a woman in my community who had a vile drunk man I also knew (And didn't like) from attacking her. Needless to say, he didn't get to her. Got a bottle of wine out of it, which was sweet of her. I personally also have started to adopt a standard similar to OP. There are certain people I just won't help now. Not all of them are women bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 03:48 AM
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Personally, I've stepped in to help women when a man has just generally been vile and became physical. However, I feel the same as OP. If I know you're a misandrist, I wouldn't feel comfortable stepping in, risking my safety and freedom if things go more South than expected, and having that effect my ability to offer those things to my partner. There's a few situations in which I'd have a very, "You got yourself in to this, and I warned you of this trouble and you vilified me for warning you, so…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 03:43 AM
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That sounds pretty fair. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 03:40 AM
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This is in comparison to women who have a large body count due to hook ups, so it's relatively the same, just for easy access to sexual fun. Would you still have the same opinion with this additional information?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 03:40 AM
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Follow up question. If a man has the same view of women with a high body count, do you believe there is something wrong with that in any manner?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 03:39 AM
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This is something I'm currently in mind of. If I don't know you or I know you're a misandrist, I won't step in. Not only am I at risk of legal trouble if something goes wrong in the process, but I don't know if you deserve me making such a sacrifice to my person if you're someone who hates me for what I am. I also extend this to Leftist women. With the increase in foreigners hurting women, and me being called a "racist" for not wanting mass immigration of the men who come from the cultures that …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 03:37 AM
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This is why you bore women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:54 PM
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Women might like you more if you weren't so repetitive. Trust me, if you decide to be less boring, you might get somewhere with a woman. Haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:43 PM
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Is that why you're so assmad you're rabidly going through my profile? I'm fuckin' laughing my ass off at how tilted I made you. Hahahaha.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:32 PM
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- Says the single person.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:29 PM
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I used to be pro-choice until a few years ago. Never could get past the talking point that "dead things don't grow".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 07:27 AM
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Completely disagree. Here's why. Will men overlook a woman's craziness due to her good looks? Yes. Does this mean her craziness is what attracted them? No, it was their looks. Do men say crazy women are good in bed? Almost always jokingly and almost never when the woman is actually an evil bastard. Here's the difference. Women absolutely like bad boys. Why? Confidence. Bad boys get the unique position of demonstrating their confidence at all times because they get to impose their confidence on o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:52 AM
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You didn't read the post at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:30 PM
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I never said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 03:55 PM
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Three dates to the point you feel safe enough to be intimate with them and attracted enough to be intimate with someone absolutely is enough to "start" the next stage beyond dating in to the early stages of a relationship. To call that "Nuts" is so...Online dating mind. What if it doesn't work out? Then it doesn't work out. Nobody said that all relationships after that point are successful or can't fail, the point is that they're ready to take it to the committed stage. If this is happening to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 03:55 PM
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If the average dude is good enough to sleep with by date #3 then he's good enough to try a relationship with. If you're meeting with people that get to that stage consistently and then leave after that point, then 9/10 you're the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 03:20 PM
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This isnt hard. Men don't want women to sleep with everybody they see but they also want women to have realistic standards when it comes to who they get in to relationships with. This isnt hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 11:27 AM
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I disagree. I do not understand why people ever consent to this framing. Men don't need to be more picky, men are the correct ones on this. Men are openly showing that they find the average woman attractive enough for them...That's supposed to be normal, the average man is supposed to find the average woman attractive, and vice versa. For some reason, women being more picky to the point she treats the average man as not good enough is how things *should* be...That isn't at all how things *should…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 06:16 PM
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I have never seen a man, not even here, claim that women must put up with an absolute headcase of a man otherwise her standards are too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 05:52 PM
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I personally don't get where you don't think this is agreeable by those that don't want women with emotional baggage. Yeah, the same would apply to men, I don't think anybody expects women to have to put up with an emotional mess of a man either, in fact we'd encourage them not to. People with emotional baggage need to sort their shit out regardless of sex and not expect a partner to put up with it. If it's something more severe like PDST, I can understand you're less to blame for the issues but…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 12:47 PM
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Women want more than normalcy in a relationship, men want normalcy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 05:17 AM
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The average guy is awesome. Its not that men have "low standards" it that the average man has appropriate standards that the vast majority of women can meet. Essentially, men are more romantically accepting of others than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 04:41 AM
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I'm talking about the OkCupid one, I assume you've seen?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 06:12 PM
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It's almost exclusively fear of rejection. Women will initiate but only in rare cases of a man that's in the high scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 03:51 PM
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Wrong, there have been studies on this. The average woman is not picking the average man on these dating apps, the majority are all choosing the top 10%. This isn't an opinion, it's fact. Don't make this about me, I reach the standard of far above average. I'm a muscular pretty boy, I get more attention than most men will in their life time due to my looks alone, I was severely lucky in the gene department, and even I have noticed this. I can 100% say, that these women are not picking the averag…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 03:49 PM
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There it is. So when women have standards that exclude the average man, she has standards. If a man decides he has standards the average woman doesn't have and therefor goes elsewhere to somewhere women meet those standards, he's a predator. If most men don't meet your standards, he's a loser, if you don't meet a man's standards and he goes elsewhere, he's a predator. The level of entitlement is insane and the answer is no. If such men are predators, as are you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 12:23 PM
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Yes, and dating apps have become the default dating avenue, so we can't separate dating apps from the dating pool, which means the men ranting are the men that are simply "dating". You're not picking those average men though, on average. Yes, there are way more men on these apps than women, but that would mean you have a larger selection pool, and yet despite this wee see the pool almost exclusively be for the men with high superficial qualities that has resulted in women all sleeping with the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 12:21 PM
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That's not what I'm assuming. How do you feel about men who decide to be passport bros?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 10:48 PM
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Yes, and what they want is a man that's the best of men, whereas men are much more accepting and don't require the best of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 10:48 PM
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Not what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 10:23 PM
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And that might be the case for you but when looking at the dating apps women are choosing men based on superficial features. Women wanting to do that is their business but not when they're lying to people about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 10:19 PM
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Yup. Personally, I'm a man that meets the superficial standards, I got lucky with genes and put the work in, I'm in a relationship and still have women trying to "pick me up" due to my luck in looks. Even I look at the situation and think how fucking wild it is how these women are, even when I personally benefit from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 08:57 PM
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Except they literally aren't lowering them, and as a result men are noticing and not approaching women anymore, which many women are complaining about, and yet are unwilling to switch the role for them to initiate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 08:56 PM
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Yes, that is up for them to determine, and it's up to me to determine if I believe they measure up to the the type of man they want. Same applies to men. If a slob of a man thinks he's good enough for a 10/10 perfect woman, sure he's free to determine that but thay doesn't mean he's being realistic in what he is deserving of in terms of what the general consensus.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 08:54 PM
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Except my criticism is that's not why they're remaining single, it has nothing to do with emotional intelligence because when a man meets superficial standards these women will run to them for a relationship regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 08:53 PM
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Yeah, except nobody is complaining that you don't want abusive partners, they're complaining that the average woman doesn't want the average man, which is completely valid to be annoyed about if it is in fact true.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:49 PM
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That's not true, it's not true at all. If this was the case then superficial qualities wouldn't cut through any of that, which they do. I know this as a man who has superficial qualities and women go out of their way to come to me. This has nothing to do with "competing with current peace and quality of life" and everything to do with women having a false idea of what type of men they're deserving of. Also paired with the fact men simply aren't approaching women anymore and you'd rather pretend …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:47 PM
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:)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 08:54 AM
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Nope. I know what you're doing and you're not nearly smart enough, nor me naïve enough, for it to work. You made your decision, so now you won't be taking part in this conversation. That was your choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 08:48 AM
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I'm not negotiating my question with you. You answer it or we don't continue.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 02:58 AM
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Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 02:48 AM
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It doesn't feel relevant at all because my obvious response would be that the man can afford it without it being an issue for the necessities or luxuries of his financial responsibilities. Your argument for this suggests that men who went to a shop to buy porn magazines were cheating because they had to physically go to the shop and spend money on it. You're not making an argument as to how they're morally different, you're just explaining how they're different. Your argument is that the cheatin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 02:48 AM
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It's not a bad faith one, it's one that you can't account for and you think calling it "bad faith" will relinquish you from accounting for it in the discussion. So I'll just ask you plainly. Do we call it quits? Because I'm just not willing to engage with with you if you think you can just snap your fingers and make any point I make which cuts to the core of your position suddenly not require an answer while I address every point you make. There is no scenario where I humour that dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 02:33 PM
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That's my argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 01:55 PM
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Why is money paid relevant if its his money? Why is his time to travel a trouble if he's willing? Why is interacting with performers an issue of adultery isn't on the table? You're just explaining going to a strip club as if explaining it alone makes your point. Tie in to why these factors are relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 01:55 PM
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Not nearly as much as people misuse the term "Controlling". If someone doesn't like a particular act and they don't want to be with someone who engages in that particular act, it's not "controlling" to say they refuse to enter a relationship with you as a result of them engaging in that act. Trying to threaten people in to being in relationships with those who engage in things they do not like, is the controlling element here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 01:28 PM
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Doesn't need to be a common occurrence, some men can just find it to be a red flag by their own personal standard. Sure, what's the difference? If there's an assured no chance of the stripper sleeping with you, what's the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 01:15 PM
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Half of this isn't even talking with me, it's talking about other people's views. You're not arguing against my point, you're just finding new ways to assert your stance. So I have a quick question. Which is more "abusive". Scenario A: Man and woman on a date. Woman says she likes to pick her nose and eat it in private. This turns the man off, he simply doesn't find it attractive and he says he doesn't think he could be with a woman that does that. Scenario B: Man and a woman on a date. Woman sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 01:13 PM
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Well yo know what, it's slightly more. He picks his nose in private and eats it. She doesn't like that, in fact it makes her less attracted to him, and so she decides she doesn't want to date him. What then? Is she obligated to pretend to be attracted to him otherwise be seen as a bad person?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 01:05 PM
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Then your issue isn't with what I'm saying, your issue is that you need to come to terms that men are just as valid to dictate what they choose to be a party to or not just as women are with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 12:47 PM
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Ok, so we'll go back to the former example. Should the women tell their friends and others that the man is a red flag for not being comfortable with her using sex toys, just like you said the man shouldn't do the same to the woman in the VR incident?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 12:38 PM
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Sure, and they'd be absolutely free to, just like there are men who call women red flags for being insecure about their partners going to strip clubs. Just out of curiosity. If a man liked VR porn as his go-to maturation habit, and this resulted in his girlfriend, through no fault of her own, just finding it a bit icky and she loses attraction to him as a result which leads to her breaking up with him, should that man go around ensuring she's considered a red flag by every man in the community?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 12:27 PM
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Yes, if he sprung it on her out of nowhere. If he disclosed this in the dating process and decided that if that boundary won't be agreed on then it won't progress, he's free to. Also, if he decided later on he's not okay with it and decided to leave if she wasn't comfortable in changing, that too is their decision, unless you think it's abuse for someone to end a relationship they aren't comfortable in?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 12:22 PM
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Wrong. They do. You're not entitled to people that don't want to be with you based on the decisions you make with your autonomy. Feeling entitled to someone is the toxicity here. If someone doesn't like you picking your nose and don't want to be with you because of it, that's completely up to them. The abuse here is you feeling entitled to dictate what others are okay with and not okay with. You don't get to dictate that by threatening people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 12:18 PM
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It is controlling to point to decisions people are entitled to make regarding their own life and what they wish for it and then dictating that those decisions are morally bad. Yes, and in the situation we're talking about the person has zero power over others either, these boundaries are not "imposed" they are "accepted". You can't address it as a problem if you don't see it as a problem to begin with, and insecurity is what would tell you that it's a problem you wish addressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 10:28 AM
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Not at all true. Insecurities are absolutely valid. It's insecurities that let you know that if your wife decided to spend the night in a hotel room with a random man that she is most likely cheating. Insecurities are a reaction to not feeling secure due to new information or circumstances. These are not "misinformed boundaries", these are boundaries based on their own sensibilities. To call them "misinformed" is to suggest there is an objective set of boundaries, to which I can only assume in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 10:06 AM
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Someone dictating boundaries you disapprove of isn't misinformation... Insecurities are normal and also helpful. This idea that insecurities are themselves a negative or unjustified isn't something I subscribe to, and in practice, neither would you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 09:53 AM
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Telling people what their boundaries are allowed to be is even more toxic in my opinion. Yes, countless things can be, and if it's truly something someone feels genuine about then they're openly telling you that they have a boundary regarding those things because of how it makes them feel, which is completely fine so long as they don't sneak it on to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 09:36 AM
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Yeah, but who are you talking to? You've just made an assumption about me and my views and made a multi-paragraph response not knowing my views and presumed them based on people I can only assume you've talked to in the past. Would I consider using toys as "cheating"? No but that can absolutely be a boundary someone has whether it's cheating or not, and it wouldn't be abusive to expect them to hold to it if they opted in to the relationship knowing it's a boundary. Same goes for the other stuff …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 09:16 AM
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Nope. You're entitled to have your own boundaries, relationships have a degree of controlling what your partner is free to do, your freedoms in a relationship is not the same outside of a relationship, and accepting that is not "Abusive". Now it "can" be abusive if you spring them up out of nowhere, but if these are established at the start and the person opts in after knowing these boundaries, then it's not abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 08:42 AM
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It's just their sensibilities, really. We don't all understand eachothers' sensibilities, some have a gift for it, others don't. It's no biggie.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 07:01 AM
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It's probably in the same manner in which you can "emotionally" cheat. Sacrifice is considered a large aspect of love when it comes to intimate relationships, and sacrificing sexual gratification from others is a method of it, whereas engaging with other people for any purpose of sexual gratification, may be breaching those boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 06:35 AM
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I'm a dude. Relationship sex over Casual hook up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 06:25 AM
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It can be cheating, depending on your established boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 06:18 AM
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Never accept the gaslighting that men don't uplift other men. We did, we made our spaces where we found ways to uplift and get through our issues on our terms, be it by distraction or otherwise. What happened was female groups came in saying its sexist for these male spaces that males built to not accept women and now we don't have any. We DID have our spaces that helped us, women utterly took them away from us through societal pressures.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 01:37 AM
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Ooft, it would be hell on Earth. Women are used to being catered to in the West. Take that cultural upbringing and strip them from that catering and it would be hell. Imagine the sexual urges of a man paired with women's expectation to be catered to, only to be met with a "No"...I genuinely think women's upbringing paired with man's sexual urges would cause a genuine rape culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 06:11 AM
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Huh. Fair enough. I apologise.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 01:44 AM
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No he's not, you're just trying to find an excuse to shit on men and feel moral for the decision you make while no doubt denouncing men that make the equivalent decision about dating single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 01:05 AM
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That's okay. I'm not negotiating the hypothetical with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 09:10 PM
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You can just as easily say that if the woman won't sign a prenup then she is also planning to divorce but not just divorce but to also take what belongs to you in the process. The point of a prenup is in the event that divorce does happen, not that you plan for it to happen. Want proof that nobody believes what you said? Make marriage final. Oh, you don't think divorce shouldn't be allowed? Wow, must mean you want divorce. That's the logic we're playing with here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 06:21 PM
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So you're not Pro-choice, you're just pro-whatever gives women choice. Gotcha. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 12:49 AM
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Is a painful medical procedure less responsibility than the alternative in this scenario?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 12:48 AM
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That's fine. I'm not negotiating the hypothetical to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 12:48 AM
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That's the extent in which you described women taking accountability. There is no accountability in having an abortion, you get to walk away after the fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 05:49 PM
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What if there was a system in place that allows men to financially abort solely at a time where women can abort, before there is a child, therefor the decision to bring the child in to the world is solely up to the woman and therefor her choice and responsibility, that way the man and the woman have the choice to opt out at a time that doesn't effect the choice of the other?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 05:28 PM
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The obvious assumption would be that if men can give birth then women can impregnate them. But that's okay, I'm not interested in justifying the hypothetical to you, plenty of people understood the question the hypothetical was facilitating. I'm not writing you a book to justify the question, you don't need to take part, and you have chosen not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 05:24 PM
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Not nearly as personally and seriously as to get to mad to the point of hurling insults and taking screenshot momentos like a fuckin' loser, that's for damn sure. Hahaha.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 05:38 AM
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I'm giving you one last chance, I'm not letting you weaponize stupidity to make the conversation too difficult to have with you. I was not claiming prescription drugs and condoms are the same, I was saying the reason why they don't use birth control 100% of the time is the same reason why men don't use birth control 100% of the time, not that the two methods of birth control are the same. You know that wasn't what I was saying, I know that you know that isn't what I'm saying, and I am giving you…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 05:22 AM
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Same reason why women who get pregnant by not using birth control but didn't want to fall pregnant. No, I'm not explaining child support to you, I'm staying on topic. Stop trying to obfuscate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 03:14 AM
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Then why did you claim so if you know it isn't the case? Men do face consequences, being forced to pay for a child they didn't want for 18+ years can have drastic effects on a man's life and prevent him from building the life he wants, meanwhile you have the option to abort. So you can't just dictate that the consequences for women are objectively worse because that isn't true at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 01:31 AM
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That's okay. If you don't feel safe for your argument to stand if you address my response then I'll move on. Take care, friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 11:49 PM
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Are you refusing to address my entire response?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 11:24 PM
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I'm sorry, respond to all my points first.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 11:17 PM
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And you're completely unaware that it's a crime to do that, aren't you? Lol. I'll try to keep to my last response this time. P.s, no, it's not illegal to not put the fathers name on the birth certificate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 11:00 PM
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False. Safe haven laws only apply to fathers that have permission from parents, and since the mother is automatically deemed a parent as she can't be anonymous due to the fact she births the child in the hospital, she is defaulted as a parent on the birth certificate, to which the father would need permission from, legally, unless her parental rights were revoked. We're speaking about women who do this with a man's child, a man who's parental rights have not been revoked but is unaware that he h…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 10:41 PM
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Thats fine. I told you I wouldn't accept you weaponizing stupidity, so im moving on. They're called safe haven laws, and I believe they are active in 50 states. Have a lovely day now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 10:24 PM
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That's fine. I gave you multiple chances. Have a lovely day.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 10:21 PM
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Sperm is not a baby. I'm going to give you the opportunity to respond to my comment again without pretending to be so stupid. If you can't do that then I'm fully aware that you're intentionally acting dumb to avoid my arguments and will move on. There are places women can legally drop off children, for example the old firestation trick.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 10:16 PM
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....How did he have every opportunity to take her to court for something he could only know if she told him and she purposely refused to inform him? This is your last chance to respond to my words, not yours, my words. Remember, I dont need to talk to you, I can have this conversation with many of the others here. Last chance. If you think I will continue this with you changing my words or simply ignoring pivotal aspects of my argument, I will move on to someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 10:14 PM
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No. Let's say she simply had a falling out with the man and decided to move and they didn't have contact, and she finds out she's pregnant and decides not to tell the man because she doesn't like him anymore and doesn't want tied to him in any way, and then she later on decides to give the child up to a sanctuary. Should she be allowed to do this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 10:05 PM
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You do realize I can move on and have this conversation with others if you refuse to acknowledge my words and replace them with your own, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 09:52 PM
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No, I didn't say that but you don't need to make an excuse to bail on the conversation, you were free to leave at any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 09:45 PM
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Wrong, I'm speaking about men who are unaware that the woman is even pregnant because the woman did not notify him nor put his name on the birth certificate. So my question still stands. You're free to address it with this aspect clarified.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 09:44 PM
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But you're also pro-choice, so there's no moral objection to abortion, you simply preferred not to abort, and if you didn't abort purely out of preference and not because you consider the fetus a child, then you still have a choice not to create the need for tax payers to pay until you find yourself in a situation where you can finance parenthood by yourself or with a partner, so my argument there still isn't accounted for. No, if the woman was pro-life then it would be the father's fault but if…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 09:08 PM
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...Okay. Moving on.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 07:50 PM
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Except this isn't true as women can drop children off at sanctuaries without the father's knowledge. With this in mind, should women be refused the ability to do so without a father's name on the birth certificate and the father's knowledge?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 07:48 PM
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Why should tax payers pay for the child if the woman can simply abort if she can't afford the child? Why must everyone else subsidize a lifestyle she's not obligated to embark on?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 07:43 PM
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How Pro-Life of you. I can't believe you bowed out simply because you were made to stick to the topic and couldn't attempt to confuse the topic to get out of it, and then spent a paragraph trying to compensate for the fact that telling you to stay on topic got you to bow out. I don't mind being disagreed with but people coming in only to bitch out the second the argument doesn't go their way? Honestly, pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 07:41 PM
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Cool. We're talking about the morality of it, not the access to it, so we're assuming the person has access within the context of the discussion. I know this. You know this. I know that you know this. You are permitted to have this debate with me, I will give you my time, I will not give you my time if you think I'll continue a debate where you feel entitled to side step the questions you can't account for. Address what I said, I will never let you side step me, I will know when you're trying. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:43 PM
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I can't believe you made a five paragraph response trying to convince me why you shouldn't have to respond to my arguments while claiming I'm emotional. The answer is no.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:36 PM
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If this was true, why is financial abortion not legal?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:32 PM
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That isn't even a response to my argument, we're talking about areas where abortion is legal. It's perfectly clear to me that if I make an argument you can't account for then you will make the discussion impossible, and I don't consent to a debate where only points you may be able to address are acceptable. You're free to address my comment if you wish to continue the debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:31 PM
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Are you saying women aren't at all responsible for abortion becoming legal?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:28 PM
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Should men be able to financially abort?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:27 PM
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Okay, then men can just financially abort after ejaculating in women and claim, "I'm accountable because I feel bad, so I can't forget it." That's what you're arguing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:27 PM
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This is getting tiresome. No, abortion is not the only method of pregnancy care that can be improved upon. 56% of women you're speaking about is <0.1% of women. I agree that if a woman will die from pregnancy, she can get an abortion. These women make up <0.1% of women having abortions. You don't support abortion for this reason. You're going all over the place.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:26 PM
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Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:23 PM
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Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:22 PM
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Why does abortion have to be legal everywhere for financial abortion to be legal in areas abortion is legal? That is not at all equal. I'm going to copy and paste my last response because your reply doesn't acknowledge it despite it already addressing what you go on to say, "So if a man decides he wishes to not be financially present and that option is available to him, then the woman can simply abort as there is no sanctity of life being taken by the pro-choice perspective. This means, the woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:21 PM
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Yes. Nothing else has changed, like I said. I'll be real, I'm cutting my interest in this post so I can go workout before work, you can be one of the people I give my time to or you can not. If you don't want to engage with the hypothetical, that's completely fine, we all have stuff to do, but I don't have enough time in the day to try and convince you to talk on the hypothetical.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:48 PM
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No, asking for you to verify statistics is not bad faith, and the fact you think it is shows the entitlement you think you're deserving of, which I will never grant you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:46 PM
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Just doing my civic duty, sir. o7
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:43 PM
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We don't agree though, because you didn't believe this until my response and you thought it could add to your argument, you relegated money to be of unimportance on the matter when it can arguably be far worse. Children need money to survive, but children don't need to be born, right? So if a man decides he wishes to not be financially present and that option is available to him, then the woman can simply abort as there is no sanctity of life being taken by the pro-choice perspective. This means…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:41 PM
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I don't need to tell you I don't believe them, I simply have to say I don't know if your numbers are true or not and would like to verify them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:36 PM
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K. Say tomorrow it happened out of the blue, for some unexplained magical reason. We maintain everything else. Men now are the ones that carry the children. Does the culture change as time goes on regarding abortion?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:33 PM
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I'm happy for you. :')
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:32 PM
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Once you finish your snack or meal, do you immediately wash the dishes before your next task, or do you dedicate a specific time to wash all the dishes later on during the day? I personally try to wash them immediately after my snack or meal but ever am I ever forgetful and sometimes I have to do them a little later during the day. How about yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:32 PM
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Fair enough. I'm going to chit chat to those that accept the hypothetical.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:30 PM
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Wasn't my question. You don't belong.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:29 PM
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No, sorry, we didn't agree to that from the pro-choice position. I am pro-life, so that's what I agree, but from the pro-choice position, which I am adopting for the sake of this argument, there doesn't need to be a "good reason" beyond the woman's mere wish to have a termination, unless we are in agreement that simply wanting an abortion despite it not being necessary for survival, is wrong? You can terminate your parental rights to an unborn child, we just don't do it. No, I'm not changing the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:29 PM
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Do you watch TV when eating? I personally won't watch TV while just having a snack but often will watch a short Youtube video while having meals. How about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:20 PM
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Once you have finished your lovely cookie and your refreshing beverage, do you prefer to have a napkin at hand or do you get up to wipe your face after consumption? I personally like to have a napkin at hand, just in case but not all of us have the same rituals.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:19 PM
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What's that ol' sayin' about mimicry?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:18 PM
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But of course, a cookie is fine and dandy by itself, but you may get parched with eating a cookie, to which a beverage would be needed! What is your favourite beverage, my goodman?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:17 PM
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I like the fact that your comment implies I have countered you because I responded to you. Big whoopsie, my guy. You are, in fact, low-tier.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:16 PM
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I regret it. I get sucked in too easy and I feel like my workout may be forgotten about today. :'(
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:14 PM
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I personally like Dark chocolate cookies. You?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:13 PM
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You say that as an argument to say women shouldn't have any accountability for who they let cum inside them. The hint is that both are accountable, you're the only one saying only one side is accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:13 PM
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Do you like cookies?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:12 PM
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"Under no circumstances would our culture allow for women to be duped by men." You're an in the way person. You are producing no value here. I'll give you one last try. If you can prove to me that women are raising children by men that aren't their own, and they don't know it's their own child, and are made to pay for it, then I will continue discussions with you. If not, which you can't, I'm now refusing to engage with your low-tier argumentation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:10 PM
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Do you like cookies?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:08 PM
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Answer my question. I know what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:08 PM
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You're switching the entire topic. I could completely side step all of this by saying I agree we should make pregnancy care easier to access.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:07 PM
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Nope. I'm asking if men tomorrow could become pregnant nothing else changed, would our current sensibilities and culture allow for men to abort going on in to the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:04 PM
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Oh. So are you equally saying that people who claim there would be abortion clinics on every street are also wrong, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:03 PM
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Because it's not the same thing, a man cannot dictate if he can terminate parental rights, a judge must accept it, but I have a sneaking suspicion you know this are are simply trying to obfuscate and sneak by the argument, but I'll wait for a few more responses to see if this is what you're intending. Not at all, although that is one of my favourite thought experiments on the matter. My point is that financial abortion can happen if done at a time where a woman can also abort, therefor she can m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:00 PM
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Do you like cookies?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 04:57 PM
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Which women are paying for children that aren't theirs by force of government or potentially face legal consequences?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 04:56 PM
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Relinquishing responsibility so that you get the easier route is not accountability and it's insane you would suggest so.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 04:56 PM
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"Is a more invasive surgery". This is a speaking point that means nothing. it's literal surgery of the most private body part of both being compared. Abortion can permanently sterilize a woman, and yet you advocate for abortion, so the point that tube typing may not be reversible doesn't apply because you're okay with such downside risks. So why shouldn't women be offered sterilization and we outlaw abortion?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 04:55 PM
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Stop. I never claimed it was cutting the man's dick off. Don't do these cute games, you'll just waste both our time because I won't fall for it. Vasectomies also come with complications and not all are reversible. It's a Pro-Life position, and this is my point. You people aren't even aware of how Pro-Life you are so long as it's not applied to women. If I said to you that women shouldn't be able to abort because they can get their tubes tied or have access to other methods to prevent pregnancy, …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 04:52 PM
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The person you're debating will not debate you, so I'd be wary of if you're willing to waste your time. If you make an argument, they won't even acknowledge it if they can't respond to it. Just be aware of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 04:44 PM
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Okay, then I will ask this. Are you saying it is drastic purely in the sense of relativity, or are you saying that 8 people out of 100,000 is a drastic amount?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 04:42 PM
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Stop. You're not nearly good enough to do this attempt. You made a claim of statistics, now substantiate it. I am neither confirming nor denying the numbers, I am telling you to verify them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 04:41 PM
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Okay, and is this across the board or overall? What factors does it account for? Population increase? Comorbidities? Specific locations/States? As a result, how many lives have been saved by the abortion ban, as there are also complications from abortions? I also take issue with your rhetoric of saying "FAR more likely to die from pregnancy before. There's still <0.1% of death from pregnancy that simply does not justify such rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 04:38 PM
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I don't know if that would happen, but I could absolutely see it happening post-war as a duty to maintain a country.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 04:26 PM
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Financial abortion is not a thing, that doesn't mean it can't be a thing or that it would be wrong to implement a system that allows it. It can be done in a way that gives both parties a choice. Exactly, you have to have a better reason, but you won't apply this standard to women who want to abort, she needs no better reason, does she? Yes, however financial abortion that I'm talking about would not be afforded to men who wish for it past the point a woman can also abort.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 04:26 PM
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"Take some accountability." The problem is you're saying men alone must take accountability, because you believe men have higher accountability, hence why I believe people like you would outlaw abortion if the roles were switched because you hold men to a higher level of accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 04:23 PM
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I'll have to read up on the Texas laws. However, this is irrelevant to the point of the debate. Don't bring up rape survivors when your argument remains the same if there were no pregnancies caused by rape. Money is the lifeblood to a healthy life. Without money there is a chain reaction that bleeds in to every other aspect of your life, including when you eventually want to start a family. Men's lives have been crippled by the financial loss of paying for a child they never wanted. To say "it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 04:22 PM
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No they're not, at all. This is like saying cutting your arm off so you don't have a broken finger any more. This is what I'm talking about. HOW can you guys even make this argument and not understand how Pro-Life it is? Now I can just say, "Well, if women want to have power over their reproduction, they can get their tubes tied!" and justify banning abortion for it, but in no way would you accept that for women, only men. Everything you have said here can be used to justify banning abortion for…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 04:18 PM
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This isn't even a response to my comment. Your involvement in debate is highly inappropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 04:15 PM
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Why are you even here if you don't understand the fundamentals of debate?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 04:14 PM
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Wow, wow, wow, wow. Hold up. Are you suggesting that over half of pregnant women are dying? There is no fucking way you thought that comment would just fly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 04:14 PM
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If women feared pregnancy, they'd refuse to have sex if men didn't wear it. Therefor women don't fear sex, and if they get pregnant it's because they wanted to. Cool. We can outlaw abortion for women. See how you screwed yourself there? You're all falling in to Pro-Life argumentation and you're completely unaware of it...Which is my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 04:13 PM
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It's a hypothetical.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 04:10 PM
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You're just asserting the claim, not arguing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 04:10 PM
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Not even a response to my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 04:08 PM
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That's not even a response to my comment. You simply don't belong in debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 04:07 PM
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Cool. So if a woman wants an abortion, should she also be sterilized? Since you believe a man shouldn't be able to say no to having a child with a particular woman unless he ensures he can't have a child with any woman, then should this standard be applied to women, that if she has an abortion with a certain man's child then she shouldn't be able to have a child with any man's child?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 04:06 PM
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There's two scenarios here. 1, You genuinely don't understand what was said and therefor you just aren't fit for debate of any kind, not just this one. You're lying so you can assert the same position again in hopes I won't repeat the rebuttal you're trying to avoid. Answer the response in full or move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 04:03 PM
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"Drastically went up". 8 people. You literally have a <0.1% chance of dying even if you quadruple the increased number.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 03:59 PM
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He gave you a source. What's yours? Also, does your source account for population increase?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 03:57 PM
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Yeah, and men are also actually scared of getting a woman pregnant as it can destroy their life. You wouldn't accept this reality for men, so I won't accept it from you regarding women. Sure, and women can run away too by dropping their child off at a sanctuary, in fact this is much easier with less consequences than men running away from paternal responsibility. If men got pregnant = Women would become the most pro-life people to ever exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 03:56 PM
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That's cool. Feel free to address the rest of my comment, then I'll get back to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 03:54 PM
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A small minority of men through social and political pressure led by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 03:53 PM
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"If you don't want kids, keep your legs closed" Pro-Choice woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 03:52 PM
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Just not my style, amigo.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 03:51 PM
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"Men can't get abortions, so being sterilized is the next closest thing". Yeah, like Mercury is the closest planet to Earth, that doesn't make it close or at all appropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 03:51 PM
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Okay, and women don't "like" the pill, it's just a necessity. Same argument. Cool, we've solved it. Moving on.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 03:50 PM
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They're incredibly rare. I've seen them when I was younger but haven't seen one for over a decade. Remember. "Every" shop. "Every" vending machine.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 03:49 PM
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Yup. It's almost as if they don't have an issue with pro-life argumentation, they simply have an issue with it being applied to women. Give it time and you will see many here demonstrate this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 03:48 PM
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If you can accept a fictional hypothetical that facilitates men being able to get pregnant, you can reasonably be expected to assume an equally fictional hypothetical where women can get men pregnant. Don't be that dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 03:47 PM
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There is no soaring maternal mortality rate, and people dying from complications is not equivalent to being seen as disposable. Why are you actively trying to use Red herrings to shift each conversation or point being made?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 03:46 PM
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"Because men don't like condoms". Okay, then men wouldn't like plan B. I can just assert this like you do and therefor it applies, and therefor her claim of plan B in vending machines is just as easily dismissed as you dismissed the condom equivalent. "Because they don't get pregnant so they don't care". Carrying a child is not the only set back to an unplanned pregnancy, nor does an unplanned pregnancy only effect the carrier of the child. Saying that men don't care if they get a woman pregnant…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 03:44 PM
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Yeah, I think that would be something that would happen. Under no circumstances would our culture allow for women to be duped by men in to paying for a child that isn't theirs, definitely.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 03:40 PM
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Yeah, I already said you'd say that, the point of the post is for you to justify the assertion, not repeat it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 03:38 PM
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There is a difference, financial abortion would be far more forgiving for both parties and still leaves more choice for both parties. Men are routinely belittled for being "deadbeats", men are degraded for not raising children they never wanted. However, none of this is actually addressing the point of the post. I'm saying Abortion would be outlawed, not if financial abortion or abortion is worse. As for financial abortion, I'd say no it doesn't need to be equal in that regard because the woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 03:37 PM
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What a blessing men can't get pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 03:32 PM
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We don't even get condoms at every vending machine in every shop. So nah. We also don't even sell paracetamol this way. It's a cute talking point, just not a valid one. Also, you avoided the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 03:31 PM
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Nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 03:24 PM
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I see what you did there. "Who got jailed during the me too movement". This isnt exclusive to me too, false allegations happen. Being arrested is not the only thing that can happen from an allegation. Brett Kavanaugh is a great example of this. The amount of BS he had to endure while going through his allegation was astounding and stressful. He wasn't arrested but thay doesn't negate the experience. Not to mention kids that were forced out if school based on mere allegations and nothing more. Ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 03:03 PM
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Ya, same. Lemme guess, your sexuality was dictated by not wanting to be with them too in their eyes?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 11:22 PM
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Yes they can. I do. You can, and you most likely do. We all can. I'm not regarding appropriateness based on looks. If a man sat around on the couch all day, not working, playing video games, and being abusive, is it appropriate for a woman to work to provide for him, clean up his mess, and take his abuse? No. If the OP can't meet the very standard she expects men to meet or the equivalent standard, then its inappropriate for her to believe she deserves such a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 11:20 PM
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It's only "usually men" because men are the majority of those that initiate the dating process. When women do initiate and are rejected, I'd argue they're more likely to act out than men as they aren't used to the treatment. Been through it enough to know, including being physically assaulted for saying no.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:06 PM
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I prefer the term, "appropriate" standards. If you have high standards but don't meet those standards or the equivalent of those standards, then it's not that you have high standards, you're simply egotistical.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:04 PM
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I already explained why its a problem, because they are making moral distinctions based on attraction. Do you think ugly people are bad people?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 04:34 PM
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...What are you even saying? Of course if there is a natural difference in how people are treated based on attraction, this would also apply to when they're in a dating scenario too, or does attraction not effect behaviour when dating, is that what you're saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 04:31 PM
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Yes, they behave differently by applying different standards on what's acceptable based on who they're attracted to, that's what they're saying, that if an average person does something, they will behave one way and if an attractive person does the same thing, they will behave differently. That's their point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:51 PM
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Well it's because attractive people are romanticized more than average people, so too is their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:44 PM
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I don't think it's as drastic as this but this is true to a big degree. I know this as a man considered physically attractive, we do get our actions romanticized.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:43 PM
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That's not what he's saying, he's saying that different morality is applied to the same acts between attractive men and average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:42 PM
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Thats absolutely how emotions work, and if you think it's the norm to be foaming at the mouth if you are insulting someone, then your emotions are the ones that aren't working right, dude. That's unhinged.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:21 AM
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You literally report peoppe for saying naughty things and say nobody should take the site seriously? ...You are the person taking the site too seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 01:12 AM
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More than women, absolutely. The commenter below referencing comments online has nothing to do with emotions, most of them will happily be typing away insults, which means they are perfectly in control of their emotions and not at all what OP is referencing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 01:11 AM
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K.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:05 PM
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They're not. I've known these types of men. They are the cringiest people to have lived who's lines would never work if they didn't have looks to them. Women will honestly overlook the signs they'd notice in average to below average men if it comes from above average men. I've even dabbled a little in this behaviour for a brief time when I was a young adult. These men aren't masterminds, it's entirely due to superficial factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 05:48 PM
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Not nearly as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 05:45 PM
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Yeah, they are doing that, but most do it incredibly horribly, they play in to the egotism a lot of women want to hear from someone they think everyone else is going to be jealous of them for. Bad people preying on women's bad tendencies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 05:36 PM
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Yeah, that's a fair take. I could see that being the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 05:16 PM
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I'd argue that everything except the "long-term" part is true. Seen too many women try to lock down the player type if not completely brainwash themselves in to thinking he loves them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 05:01 PM
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AHHH! Ghost! How can this be!? But Prestigious_Pipe_522 said she was out!?! I must have angered her spirit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 04:42 PM
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"Hahahahahahahahahahahaha" Prestigious_Pipe_522, forever in our hearts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 04:33 PM
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Oh no, I made you break character. Pretend this one didn't happen and do it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 04:24 PM
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Aww, come on, do the laugh thing again. It showed how in control of the situation you were, honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 01:55 PM
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That's lovely. You should add a few more "hahahahas" in there, it'll make it less transparent, I promise.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 08:48 AM
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A saying often said for humour, not advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 03:53 AM
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Ew, you're one of those.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 03:52 AM
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k
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 03:50 AM
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Okay. There are people here who are willing to engage in debate. I was offering you my time, but I already told you I'm not simply going to change my mind because you don't like what is said. I can spend my time with those making arguments, I wasn't asking for your time, you were asking for mine, and you disrespected my time, so I'll find someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 09:01 PM
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What part of you thinks I'm going to negotiate the validity of my argument while you refuse to defend your position or argue against mine? Lol, tf is this? The answer is no, and tell your parents they raised a fuckin' fairy they should have told no to more often. The sheer entitlement. Remember, bro. You came to me, you asked me to prove my points with examples. I gave you examples. Now you're complaining that giving you examples is wrong, not that my examples are wrong. Just move along, you're …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 09:00 PM
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I don't know what women you've been looking up. >_>
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 08:56 PM
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To an extent, yeah her craziness is a factor but not in regards to her immoral acts but more in the sense that she has a zany set of expressions. Like, if you took Harley Quinn, removed all of her immoral acts but kept everything else, I think guys would have loved her even more. I'll be fair and I'll say women that go the full yard and become pen pals with serial killers probably are mentally ill, most women aren't like that, a lot are but I wouldn't even say a quarter or women are. That being …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 08:55 PM
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k.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 08:51 PM
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Oh, my bad. You did. Let me respond to that. We are talking about "romantic" attraction. James Bond is not an example of this. Men aren't romantically attracted to James Bond. This was a bad example. Ah, so you're one of those people who ask for examples thinking there are none and then back out with nothing but excuses when you get what you ask for but weren't expecting, because you have no response? Cool. You are permitted to fuck off. Imagine wasting the time of others and your own like that.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 08:50 PM
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First of all, you didn't give a single example except yourself. So there's characters like: Christian Gray. Damon from Vampire Diaries. The characters from the Originals spin off. Manslut Dean from Supernatural. Hook from Once Upon a Time. Tate Langton from American Horror Story S1. Asterian from Baldur's Gate 3. Arthur Morgan from RDR2. John from RDR2. I'd need more time to go on but there's some examples of bad men or men that are at least bad to women. Are you genuinely denying that in Hollyw…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 08:32 PM
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I never said all, and nothing you said here was an argument. Make an argument, don't tell me I shouldn't make my argument because it emotionally doesn't fit with you and then somehow turn it back on me to claim I'm the emotional one here. I gave examples, and I gave the clear examples that entire industries specifically create these bad characters strictly for the female fanbase. Just make an argument, you're not going to be able to just tell me not to believe in mine, it doesn't work like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 08:23 PM
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Nah, it's frustrating that they do it at all. I don't want to share a land with people that reward evil or give the impression that evil is fancied as that will influence those that observe it, and I especially don't want such people to share the same decision making power over that land as those who don't promote evil through the reward of fancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 08:21 PM
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Couldn't tell you, just enough to notice it, which is why I paired it with the media topic which can be far easily identified.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 08:20 PM
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Don't engage. She's going to try and turn the whole conversation about rape. Not only is it disgusting to force her pity porn rape scenarios on to people who didn't consent to it, but it's also painfully boring when that is the extent of what their mind can go to on these matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 08:18 PM
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I don't care about your pity porn. We don't want to rape you, we don't want to talk about raping you, stop trying to force us to talk about you being raped. We aren't interested and the answer is no.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 08:17 PM
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I absolutely think it is. Not saying there aren't men that don't do it too but it is far more prominent in women, which is why we see such evil men all over shows with a female fanbase in mind. The Femme fatale definitely exists but they're always paired with hypersexuality, and it's the sexuality aspect that draws men in most. Harley Quinn and Lady Dimitrescu were considered attractive due to their appearance, not their evil nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 08:16 PM
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So I am supposed to pretend this trend doesn't exist because you say "Nuh-huh!" and your example for your "Nuh-huh" is yourself when I'm talking about an entire industry that creates these types of characters because they KNOW it appeals to women and women openly demonstrate they gush for these characters? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 08:12 PM
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I have to hard disagree. The amount of women that romanticize them is insane, especially their general interest in "true crime" stuff. Pair this with the fact they absolutely romanticize evil characters or characters with evil aspects of them, and it's more than just a "few" women. Genuinely, look at our media. Are women generally swooning over the sensible moral male characters, or is it always the dark and evil characters or the dark half way characters that imply they have the capacity for ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 07:25 PM
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I hate this with a passion. The problem is that we had this conversation when "nice guy" was what women said they wanted. What's going to happen next is "a good guy doesn't mean x and x is what we want" just like whats happened with the label "nice guy". Like, no. Let's be Frank about this. A man being "good" or not is not the primary factor of women's attraction to men. We know this, we're just playing semantics. This idea that women seek out men that are "good, nice, moral" is just wrong. When…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 02:24 AM
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I'm considered a highly attractive man. I have never affiliated myself with the issues the average man faces when it comes to dating because of how different outlr experiences are that I have seen time and time again. I do get frustrated on behalf of the average man with the level of gaslighting that goes on and how men are expected to accept it while being living embodiments of things said not being true.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 11:39 PM
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Are women imprisoned for paternity fraud?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 11:34 PM
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The first two are illegal in terms of false reports in general that waste police time, not for the reason itself of it being an immoral act who's perpetrator needs punished for a specific false allegation that carries specific punishments. Rapists who are convicted absolutely go to jail, what you said is simply not true. Most people accused of rape are not put in prison, which is vastly different to your claim. I dont believe you'd have to prove intent. If it happened outside of a relationship p…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 11:33 PM
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Then I guess the question that follows is why do people not do so for these crimes of morality, and are people less willing to do so because they are primarily female to male crimes? Would you support these things becoming illegal? Being guilty of inconveniencing police is not the same as being found guilty if a false allegation and all the harm that can happen as a result of a false allegation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 10:40 PM
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Why are the boys behaving badly? Is the school system addressing their learning needs the same way? Is the environment one that promotes boys learning effectively as they do girls? Do boys react better to male teachers than female teachers? Are we even willing to make changes, such as having male teachers teach boys exclusively, if that is what helps solve this problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 07:37 PM
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No, you said that it's the parents who need to correct the boys who are the problem. Not remedying a problem contributes to a problem but is not the root of the problem, which you comment suggests boys are.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 07:27 PM
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"No, it's the children that are the problem." Fucking hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 07:02 PM
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The point of a relationship is that you control your behaviours for their sake, out of a display of commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 11:56 PM
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I dont think so. I think this heavily relies on women not knowing the reaction these article of clothing have, and to do that I would have to assume women are painfully stupid to a degree that I wouldn't justify them having the right to vote. Women aren't that stupid, and we know they aren't that stupid because they pick these outfits based on how attractive it makes them, its even marketed to them that way. I'm not saying that these women are wanting sex, I'm saying they want admiration and wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 11:13 PM
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Exactly, and we'll both know we're lying to eachother as a result. No, the motive of the person wearing the clothing is not irrelevant if the intent is to attract and expect men to fight their nature at every turn. That is insanely abusive to do. Men aren't robots, they are biologically designed to pay attention to these aspects, and someone intentionally trying to display it to such people are responsible for how they dress. Yeah, the difference is that the woman is showering in public and he'd…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 09:36 PM
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Because it does rarely happen, and you know this. Are you more likely to see a shirtless runner or a woman with skin-tight clothing that is so tight you can see her pussy fat? Soft core porn attire is the skin tight clothing that rides every crevice of the body, especially the bright coloured ones that are chosen specificall6 because it shows off those areas more due to shadows. There's a reason why literal sex workers use the same attire to promote their sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 09:32 PM
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Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?! Women are making rules up as they go along and it causes massive contradictions whenever it's inconvenient for them? Well! I sure as heck am stunned to hear this news! Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 07:50 PM
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By that argument, the man could simply look at a half naked woman and his partner can't criticize him because he could just argue that he likes the fashion, to which she can't raise any concerns because to do so she would have to acknowledge the purpose and effect of that particular "fashion", which then means you would expect the woman in fashion to also be capable of understanding what that reaction that particular fashion evokes in viewers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 07:50 PM
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This rarely ever happens and is in no way comparable to the level of normalisation women's soft-core porn attire is pushed into the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 07:02 PM
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That's true. It's still no tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 02:04 PM
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Good, and my rejection wasn't a yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 02:01 PM
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Not interested, got my lady at home. Thanks for the forced scenario of thinking id want you in that way, but it's a no, Chief.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 01:59 PM
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I'm just a nice fella like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 01:57 PM
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Extremely boring, like I've heard your same take across multiple different topics it's that boring, a copy and paste type of boring. Booooo. Boring. Boooo. Yeah, boring people offend me. Up in here, taking up space. The nerve.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 01:56 PM
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Just another no u. You started out boring and keeping the tradition alive. Kudos.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 01:49 PM
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You could have spared us both the time and just said, "no u, nuh huh".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 01:47 PM
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Here some advice. Don't complain about people's posts merely existing so disrespectfully. Don't expect respect for being a pratt. The fact you're mouthy until called out is noted.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 01:45 PM
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Guns blazing is a metaphor for entering in an exaggerated aggresive manner, you dope. Maybe it's because you come running in trying to dismiss a post instead of simply continuing to scroll and then trying to switch the conversation to misogyny. The entitlement to do that on someone else's post is staggering, and now you're being completely docile when called out. The answer is no. The reason is that you were being a prat, and now you're complaining incident respect you for it. You don't get to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 01:34 PM
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How pampered do you have to be to think this exchange could ever be in the realm of threatening? Is this threatening to you and thats why you assume it must be for others?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 01:29 PM
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You escalated it, you dope. Don't come in guns blazing and then suddenly act docile like you didn't initiate that behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 01:25 PM
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Are you that fuckin' mentally anorexic that you're going to complain that someone made a post in a space that relates to the types of topics OP is posting about? How about you put on your big girl pants, shut the fuck up, and leave. You came to him, dipshit, you didn't have to do that. Fuck, you utter specimen.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 01:20 PM
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Oh, so you're meaning what do we do with the ones in those circumstances now if we were to start making changes for the next generation? There's not much you can do. You can offer them support, but we've already tried that, which I'd be happy to continue trying while we're making the changes that would make the next generation not turn out the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:07 PM
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No, you're not understanding. Everything we're talking about is in the realm of "how to pick up women". That wasn't what the Red Pill was about originally, it had little to nothing to do with how to attract women and was about legal disparities that effect men. I want to ask you a direct question. When the Red Pill originally started up and gaining a community, was it primarily about men's rights, or was it about how to attract women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:05 PM
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No, I didn't say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:38 PM
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Because that's the spheres they all swam in when they started, the three mains were MRA, PUA, and MGTOW. Now the Red Pill is almost exclusively PUA, the MRAs aren't a thing, nor is MGTOW, they're just phrases with no actual group around them. How old are you, if you don't mind me asking? Because if you're a certain age I can understand you not knowing where it all started compared to where it is now. The problem is, you're still looking at the Red-Pill as exclusively through the relations betwee…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:37 PM
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What needs to happen is that they need to make marriage a once in a lifetime option. If you've been married, you can't marry again. Give benefits to married couples of children, and if you divorce then you lose those benefits if there is no justified reason to divorce, such as safety, and you won't be allowed to divorce until you go through marriage counselling. You would have to make drastic changes so that the culture would follow the laws. This would promote people being far more careful with…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:58 PM
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I'd have to disagree with your disagreement. I don't know how old you are but if you're my age you'd have grown up when the Red Pill was simply MRA, with a smaller PUA community. This has completely inverted now and PUA mentality has taken the reigns of the Red Pill, and the MRA and PUA communities were rarely ever friends in the matter and were two aspects of the one group that didn't get along. I'm not basing this on how people perceive the Red Pill but based on who are the figureheads of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:47 PM
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In the traditional sense, yeah that's probably fair but I consider the old Red Pill and the new Red Pill to be very different with obvious overlaps. Sadly, definitions change to fit the current climate of it's context. If I addressed myself as Red-Pill there would be a lot of justifies assumptions about what I believe that would give a false impression, so I opted for no pill, as I wasn't sure if that or purple pill was more accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:15 PM
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Nobody actually wants to solve this answer because of the implications trying to address it would have. Most prisoners of violent crime are raised by single mothers. Clearly a patriarch is needed in men's lives but our culture would never accept this necessary component of fixing this issue. Another issue is that we literally won't treat criminals the way they should be treated. Death penalty, for example. Most groups that support the death penalty. If we were to publicly humiliate and end the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:09 PM
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Thanking ya, brother. Yeah, most people know exactly what these women are doing and why they're doing it, except women like the one I'm responding to think they're entitled to force men to pretend it's not happening even when they admit themselves it's happening. She's now openly admitting that women are intentionally wearing sexualized clothing at the gym for attention, but that men are bad for giving her...Attention? She's a walking, talking, red flag. It's easy to deal with though, you just h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:48 PM
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Not a single thing you have said thus far is a direct response to my arguments. Respond to me when you are willing to actually address what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:31 PM
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That's not what men are angry about. There are a slew of gym gear available to women but for some reason they opt for the most revealing ones that appear to come from a spray can, and men are expected to pretend women aren't doing this. We know you're doing this, we know you pick outfits you think are "hot" for the gym, and we know this because the ones you pick are often marketed as such. Not only this, but we know this because actual SEX WORKERS will specifically use these same clothes to prom…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:22 PM
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I wish that was the case but from my perspective I've seen certain elements of the Red Pill take over completely. Don't get me wrong, I understand how these people became what the Red-Pill is known for today, and I think the world somewhat deserves it, but it's just not what I am. I wouldn't say that alone would make you red pill, but I do agree with you that those are the three main factors of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:11 PM
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Honestly, because the Red Pill went in a direction I don't care for much, I disagree with the likes of F&F more than I'd ever agree on. I remember back when the Red-Pill was like MRAs, now it seems like the PUA element took over and grew in to the next level of PUA. There's definitely some overlap between my views and the Red-Pill but I don't know if there's enough for me to be considered Red Pill. I don't think that admitting that attractive people in life have it easier is strictly a Red Pill …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:59 PM
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Stop. Think. Breathe. You're being incoherent again. I'm going to attempt to decipher what you meant. Are you saying men aren't angry if the people you listed dress provocatively? Actually, they are. The same rule applies. The problem is, those groups rarely do it because they know it won't add to their overall sex appeal, so they typically dress normal, it's almost always the ones who clearly want their appearance to be on display, which speaks to MY point, not yours. You're not even engaging w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:49 PM
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Yeah, they've also caught women sexually posing and rubbing their genitals on gym equipment. Tf is your point, or are you generally this much of a time waste to even humour a conversation with? Are you always this much of an "in the way person" when it comes to conversing ideas and views? Like, are you fully aware how useless you are to dialogue? Because so far all you do is obfuscate, and it seems you just serve as a distraction to conversation than a contributor.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:42 PM
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We all know that women know what they're doing when they do this, men have just been strangled in to pretending they don't due to toxic femininity being unchecked for so long. A good thing to do is to make sure the women around you know you notice it by making comments about such women if you and the women around you notice them. I remember a specific time a friend of mine was meeting me up for a dog walk and one of these women passed her before she reached me. First thing I said to her was, "Je…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:11 PM
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Oh, no, the complete opposite. I'm completely lucky to have really good genetics, paired with some hard work for the muscle I've gained over the years. My point is that I try not to tie my experience with women to the average man's experience because due to the luck of genetics and the work I've put in, I'm treated far, far better than the average man that wasn't as lucky nor puts in work to look better than they can look.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:00 PM
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I dont read child fables, you'll have to forgive me. No, actually, quite the opposite. Men aren't mad that these women won't give them attention, they're mad that they're forcing this attire in to their spaces. See, you're doing the thing, you know these women are trying to be attractive in these spaces and think the only reason men don't want it in their shared space is due to "being rejected", when the reality is that they don't want soft-core porn forced in to their proximity when they're try…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:43 PM
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No. Stop. Cameras are not specifically put in gyms for the sake of women, they are put up there to survey the gym to keep an eye and record on all bad behaviour. Also, no. Stop. You're trying to shift looking at a woman to intimidating a woman. The answer is no, you will not be shifting the context of looking to violence in this conversation with me. The answer is no.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:38 PM
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Amd then they will sit there with a straight face and lie to us about it. Its actually infuriating the level if gaslighting. They do everything in their power to drag attention their way and then vilify the men who's attention is grabbed by their design. Toxic af.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:30 PM
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I'm speaking from the average man's perspective. My experience is much different due to my luck in the looks department.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:25 PM
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Let's not also forget how common it is for women to pick the brightest coloured versions as they exaggerate the form due to shadows produced from the form.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:25 PM
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You mean that super precise sport where you need tight clothing so that you don't hit the pole? Notice how you have to completely shift to a different environment of competition though. Why is it that men aren't dressing like this in a gym setting while women are? There's a reason why OF models use the gym and this attire to promote their content. It isn't up for negotiation, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:24 PM
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I'm not going to even pretend your comment was coherent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:19 PM
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Yeah, and then a culture is going to grow a resentment towards women for it, which we have seen. Now such women are the mocked group in these spaces, and rightfully so.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 02:41 PM
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The answer is no.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 02:39 PM
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Not to me you didn't, and I'll even just assume there are the odd occassion, they are absolutely not as normalised. No, stop. The answer is no. You are suggesting that sport players wear skintight shorts that barely cover the butt cheeks and an ill fitting sports bra. The answer is no, this is not the norm and you are lying when you try to suggest this is the case. The answer is no. Proceed to reply to me while respecting my time, I will simply be dismissing blatant lies and telling you no.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:27 AM
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They literally don't, these men don't at all wear as little and tight clothing as these women in the gym, and you're fucking insane if you think that I or anyone will humour this lie when we can literally look up the attire of these groups of people and see fir ourselves. Why would you be so brazen as to try to lie like that? Also, no. It's women's deep desire for easy self gratification at the expense of others. Women have proven time and time again that with their introduction to a space comes…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:37 AM
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We have always had societal standards when it comes to attire. This idea that its normal to force soft-core porn attire into the proximity of others is ridiculous. Its not normal, it never has been.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:27 AM
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If men don't need to wear paint on clothing to the point you can see a perfect silhouette of their penis, then women don't need to wear spray on bottoms that you can see their pussy fat with. Stop. These clothes have never been needed for that purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:26 AM
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Here's my take. Yes, if you intentionally dress differently or provocatively, then you're going to get stared at, that was your decision to make when you wanted to dress "attractive" in a space that's not intended for it, that was your call, your decision, and your responsibility to deal with thebu comfortable feeling you get when you attract people intentionally. No, I don't care about the "you should dress how you want" just because you can doesn't mean you should, and if you were to then you'…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:24 AM
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Are we allowed to talk about how women don't actually get Men to orgasm and that men are typically responsible for both himself and the woman getting off while she does very little but lie there and then pretending she was responsible for him climaxing but actually contributed little to nothing to the deed?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 12:01 AM
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Not incorrect. You're talking about the case pre-subsidize, I'm talking post-subsidize.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 10:16 AM
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Both can be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 09:48 AM
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Yes and no. Women have more power because they initiate far less and men chase far more. The power comes from the scarcity of willing to accept romancing. If women started using this "power" like you are inferring they could, suddenly that power would leave because then the positions would be switched and men would have more options because women are doing the initiating and making men aware of their options.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 02:12 AM
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The problem with your approach is that it heavily relies on that "Male loneliness" comment. This in no way applies to men that have friend groups, which are the majority of men. Yes, there are more men than women without those friend circles but there are more men than not with friends. I think your wishful thinking that men will somehow be unable to function without women is simply founded on just that, wishful thinking. We have our groups, we have our communities, and when necessary, men band …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 01:55 AM
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You'd be surprised how peaceful people are willing to be when they know the person they're stepping to will fuck them up if they try to take it there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 11:38 PM
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It would be irrelevant. When I've done this people are purposely ignored my arguments, made up entirely false arguments I've made to facilitate a false rebuttal, and too many have openly claimed my position prevents women from having a choice to abort when my entire argument requires women to have the choice. I'm content with my side of this argument, I'm just amazed at how incapable so many people are when it comes to debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 06:41 PM
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There's a lot of people here I can discuss with, I'd rather there were less as I only have so much time, the reason I'm responding to as many as I can is out of courtesy for the time they invested in responding. If you're unwilling to acknowledge my arguments I take the time to respond with then I'm more than happy to not bother and just focus on those that are willing. If you change your mind and decide to recognize my arguments, I'll continue the conversation. Take care.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 12:41 PM
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This is a completely irrelevant argument when women have the option to abort. If men can somehow inform a woman of their unwillingness to be a father during a time where a woman can abort, this argument cannot be made as it then defaults to the argument that the woman makes the decision to have the child at a time she had the option not to while fully knowing the man is not interested in being a father in any conceivable way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 11:53 PM
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