EmileeInLight Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

Upvotes	Comment on	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
0	Nearly every woman has been in an abusive relationship, yet they still claim they aren’t drawn to toxic behavior I didn't say they have to be, and I didn't say they have to be MORE confident either. I didn't mention feminism or women in leadership role at all. Its not a long comment and it's broken into helpful short sentences. I don't know how you got so lost so easily	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/25 03:40 AM
1	Nearly every woman has been in an abusive relationship, yet they still claim they aren’t drawn to toxic behavior I didn't say they have to be, and I didn't say they have to be MORE confident either. I didn't mention feminism or women in leadership role at all. Its not a long comment and it's broken into helpful short sentences. I don't know how you got so lost so easily	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/25 03:40 AM
3	Nearly every woman has been in an abusive relationship, yet they still claim they aren’t drawn to toxic behavior So? It is also necessary for leadership. It isn't a negative attribute it's how the man who HAS power uses it. Men like women who are gorgeous but are unhappy with vain narcissists right?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/25 03:36 AM
3	Nearly every woman has been in an abusive relationship, yet they still claim they aren’t drawn to toxic behavior Power is also not the same as abusive	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/25 01:36 AM
15	Nearly every woman has been in an abusive relationship, yet they still claim they aren’t drawn to toxic behavior Women are attracted to confidence, decisiveness, leadership, and a man who genuinely shows desire for her. It's easy for an abuser to mimic these attributes when their real source is narcissism and selfishness Framing this as women liking abuse is unhelpful and irresponsible. Women need the tools to identify the difference between these positive qualities and their negative counterparts, yes, But also men should be empowered and inspired to uphold these positive qualities. This post undermines b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/25 11:23 PM
2	What screams wife material to you? I haven't told you what you like, only asked you questions, quit making up persecution. If you don't want to be questioned maybe don't post in a debate forum	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/24 08:51 PM
2	What screams wife material to you? Im not, I just think you lack reflection	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/24 05:59 PM
1	What screams wife material to you? Low libido doesn't kill a relationship but being overweight does?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/24 05:29 PM
5	What screams wife material to you? It matters to you that she's fun, but it doesn't matter to you if she's low libido? It matters to you that she's family oriented but it doesn't matter to you if she's ugly?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/24 05:15 PM
2	What screams wife material to you? You don't have any personal green flags? Just the redpill checklist?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/24 04:35 PM
20	No one is obligated to stay celibate. Sounds like you need to draft a very detailed contact at marriage so you know exactly when you can feel entitled to throw her away	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/24 04:23 PM
1	Men want a woman that can be both a mother and a wh..., and whats wrong with that? What about that is dissonant?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/24 09:41 PM
1	Alot of guys here want women to be considerate to them but never desire to be considerate to women. I'm not talking about live, laugh, love on the walls, I'm talking about a bathroom that doesn't reek of urine and bothering to wash dirty dishes when you invite your date over it's not high standards in my opinion. But still, it took months of wasted time for me to find a guy I didn't feel like I would have to be a maid for to stand sharing space with him. When I talk about men surviving without women, I'm talking about suicide, violent outbursts, and dealing with daily misery and low self-estee…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/24 07:33 PM
1	Alot of guys here want women to be considerate to them but never desire to be considerate to women. Cleaning Clothing Grocery Shopping/cooking Banking/billing/taxes Social This is the list you made claiming that men can use technology for instead of women. But I'm asserting that men do not do these things or do them very poorly. Often (though Im not comfortable saying the majority of) single men live in filth, eat terribly, blow their money and do nothing to maintain human to human social networks. In relationships they completely fail to live up to the woman's standards in these areas and lea…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/24 07:11 PM
0	Alot of guys here want women to be considerate to them but never desire to be considerate to women. If they are so easy to do yourself why do men consistently fail to do them? Why is it always women doing all of these things? Maybe you are perfectly capable of planning a get together, getting everyone on board, organizing childcare, food, and a schedule for it, providing the food and implementing that schedule, preparing and serving the food while continuing to host and manage it, and then cleaning everything before bedtime. But I can assure you that most men just don't do it at all and have f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/24 06:35 PM
0	Alot of guys here want women to be considerate to them but never desire to be considerate to women. Women still do the vast bulk of cleaning, shopping, home planning, and social planning/hosting. All of it is easier and faster but they are still the ones planning, organizing, prepping and doing all of it. That isn't replacement. I don't consider men's roles replaced because they have a job and hire professionals to repair the home, buy food instead of hunt for it, and have no threats to protect me from. Their role is easier but it's not replaced either. If you want to argue that free time gave…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/24 06:14 PM
1	Alot of guys here want women to be considerate to them but never desire to be considerate to women. Huh, weird, because I never got a notification that you responded, I still don't have one from your last response but I got this one 🤷	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/24 06:06 PM
2	Alot of guys here want women to be considerate to them but never desire to be considerate to women. Your cellphone doesn't watch your kids, a woman probably does, transportation is hardly a woman's role. Cooking and cleaning are still done by women, just faster and more efficiently but that is hardly 'technology replacing women's household role' If you mean that women have more free time than from before the invention of cars then I will wholly agree. But on the other hand 'my husband' isn't spending sun-up to sun-down working the ranch and hunting for the family either	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/24 05:22 PM
2	Alot of guys here want women to be considerate to them but never desire to be considerate to women. What tech has taken over household roles?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/24 02:54 PM
2	Men want a woman that can be both a mother and a wh..., and whats wrong with that? That is obscene and absolutely not what men exist for	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/24 12:09 AM
1	It's beneficial for society when women experience negative consequences for choosing the wrong man So your argument is that men take All women, and have absolutely no standards, but women do not have the right standards And must change their behavior for the good of society? Do you think That more women would sleep with disreputable men than there are men who would sleep with disreputable women?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/24 12:06 AM
1	Men want a woman that can be both a mother and a wh..., and whats wrong with that? I think p*** is contributed to it as much as religion has. Both have done a pretty good job at making women exist only in relation to mens needs. That being said, I do think you have interesting points that could do well with more discussion. Such as Men needing times where they are treated very softly and caringly by their partners, and women needing the space to feel like whole human beings with their own sexual nature.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 11:17 PM
4	Men want a woman that can be both a mother and a wh..., and whats wrong with that? Women have no issue with men who want both love and sex, as that is also what women want in a romantic relationship Calling it. Mother and w** makes it an entirely different conversation. In a relationship, being a guy's mother means having to do all of the domestic work with no appreciation. In a relationship, being a guy's w means being treated as far less as an equal partner And being used for sexual gratification and nothing else. Being both a mother and a w** Is what women call a ba…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 11:10 PM
6	Men want a woman that can be both a mother and a wh..., and whats wrong with that? Okay, judging from all of your comments, I believe now that you were not intentionally trolling but You genuinely are misunderstanding women's objections to men's expectations	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 10:58 PM
5	Men want a woman that can be both a mother and a wh..., and whats wrong with that? You are not understanding that the Madonna w**** complex Is a specific defined concept by referencing it you make your whole post in entirely different conversation. No woman hears 'that guy wants His girlfriend to be his mother"and thinks it means what you are saying	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 10:41 PM
3	Men want a woman that can be both a mother and a wh..., and whats wrong with that? You don't understand the Madonna w**** complex as a concept then. It refers to men being unable to treat women as full beings who are both compassionate and beautiful, and also sexual and naughty. It is not a reference to men wanting both love and sex	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 10:35 PM
9	Men want a woman that can be both a mother and a wh..., and whats wrong with that? It is absolutely servile when it's to a full-grown man who never learned how to do laundry. That's what women mean when they say That a guy just wants a mother If we were talking about compassion and affection It would just be romantic love, you know, how relationships are expected to be	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 10:33 PM
3	Men want a woman that can be both a mother and a wh..., and whats wrong with that? You seriously can't figure out why women don't want to be servile? Why they wouldn't want to care for a grown man who never learned to be an adult or to be reduced to a sex object with no agency?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 10:21 PM
7	Men want a woman that can be both a mother and a wh..., and whats wrong with that? This is the biggest troll I've seen in a long time. Lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 10:07 PM
2	What’s a good way to bridge the gap between men and women? You mean intensive one on one rehabilitation for each individuals shortcomings? Go for it	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 04:06 PM
3	What’s a good way to bridge the gap between men and women? There's nothing you can do to help addicts and retards. Don't even know why you'd ask	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 03:55 PM
4	What’s a good way to bridge the gap between men and women? And you don't see how equating men to fentanyl addicts undermines the credibility that you see men and women as equals?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 03:37 PM
3	What’s a good way to bridge the gap between men and women? "we're not so different! We can all get along!" Three seconds later "Men are basically raving beasts with no self control"	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 03:28 PM
8	What’s a good way to bridge the gap between men and women? Your post vs this top comment response is such a 180 whiplash I can hardly take you seriously at all anymore	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 03:27 PM
0	It's beneficial for society when women experience negative consequences for choosing the wrong man No, you're going to have to prove that more unproblematic women date problematic men in a way and a rate that is detrimental to society and significantly greater than the number of the unproblematic men that date problematic women in a way that is detrimental to society. If you don't have that then you don't have a women problem, you just have a bunch of hypocritical whining	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 02:59 PM
10	It's beneficial for society when women experience negative consequences for choosing the wrong man Men being mistakes are the problem. There are problem women too, they are about equal in number. Blaming unproblematic women for problematic men is where this gets stupid. Especially since op doesn't care about society really, if he did hed be complaining about the problem people who take advantage of others.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 07:26 AM
20	It's beneficial for society when women experience negative consequences for choosing the wrong man Coming from the gender that mates with particularly cushiony couches. If we want to point fingers at low bars I don't think women lose this one	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 05:28 AM
36	It's beneficial for society when women experience negative consequences for choosing the wrong man It's beneficial to society for a man to become a deadbeat father?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 04:37 AM
-5	Its not that women lack empathy. Too many men conflate coddling with empathy. The fact that you like that is a reason why women choose the bear. Bears don't get pleasure from other creatures fear	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/24 09:24 PM
–	Modern Women Are Incapable of Accountability Oh it's also terrifying don't get me wrong, both the sanders and changes of pregnancy as well as the responsibility of a whole human soul but it's also what I think makes my life worth living	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/24 01:31 AM
–	Modern Women Are Incapable of Accountability It's not sad at all, I look forward to it with my whole heart ❤️	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/24 12:33 AM
–	Modern Women Are Incapable of Accountability Lol if that's all you got out of there you may have a bias or two as well	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/24 12:32 AM
–	Modern Women Are Incapable of Accountability Which one?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/24 11:31 PM
–	Modern Women Are Incapable of Accountability We are definitely born to pet cats eat ice cream and watch tv. We are also born to have children. Regardless, your superior attitude is really off putting and derogatory. If you see women as birthing cattle then we are not on the same side	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/24 11:24 PM
–	Modern Women Are Incapable of Accountability 23 and planning for 5. Still a bit early in the relationship but things are looking great	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/24 11:12 PM
–	Modern Women Are Incapable of Accountability Women can absolutely be at fault for things they can also absolutely make terrible decisions about what partner to get, they can also make that terrible decision over and over again and that's really sad. I just disagree that this is a systemic modern woman's issue plaguing the majority of dating. I also agree there is definitely an anti-male bias in relationship subs, though it should be noted that Reddit is largely male So do with that fact as you will. I will say that nobody holds women more …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/24 11:04 PM
–	Modern Women Are Incapable of Accountability I'm currently with a nice responsible kind (not boring) guy who i plan on having many babies with. Sorry	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/24 10:55 PM
4	Modern Women Are Incapable of Accountability And you are clearly having incel revenge fantasies. Women don't have a responsibility to date you I'm sorry you feel that way. I'm also sorry that some women have such low self-esteem that they might end up with an abusive man or a man like you that blames victims instead of perpetrators	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/24 09:04 PM
–	Modern Women Are Incapable of Accountability So are you complaining about women hooking up or are you blaming women for men who are abusive predators?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/24 08:52 PM
–	Modern Women Are Incapable of Accountability What sort of accountability and responsibility are you talking about? All you have complained about is that women are dating too many men while throwing in a hefty amount of insults. You do not love women. If you think we shouldn't get to choose who we date.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/24 08:42 PM
2	Beyond the Buzzwords: A Male’s Journey Through Consent and Identity Sounds like great parents ♥️	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/24 06:39 PM
6	Beyond the Buzzwords: A Male’s Journey Through Consent and Identity I'm glad to hear that I would have found that abusive. Still this was a really compelling story, thank you for sharing, and I'm sorry for the struggles you've had. You sound like a really good guy	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/24 06:24 PM
1	Male value must not be measured in women Far from it, you are just derailing a conversation about men being safe in having feelings and making vital emotional and supportive bonds. I don't know why you see that as a bad thing. Go ahead and blame women for everything but I'm not having a conversation about women (or an imaginary female oligarchy?) I don't have unrealistic expectations for men, I put a huge amount of my emotional and physical energy into supporting and loving the men in my life, and I'm not trying to control them, wherea…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/24 06:20 PM
5	Beyond the Buzzwords: A Male’s Journey Through Consent and Identity I didn't read the whole thing, sorry, I'm out of time. But did your parents actively prevent you from having male friends as a child?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/24 05:58 PM
1	Male value must not be measured in women Men could solve that problem by depending on women less, it's like you can't comprehend a word I said	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/24 05:42 PM
–	I think that, talking in simple terms, most of the dating problems can be explained by: men tend to want women more than women want men, and men are also on average hornier. Complaining is a human condition, look you're doing it right now. Calling women who won't sleep with you broken and inflated seems way off when they've had the time of their lives doing exactly what you wish you could do, and still not being with guys they don't want to be with	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/24 05:41 PM
–	I think that, talking in simple terms, most of the dating problems can be explained by: men tend to want women more than women want men, and men are also on average hornier. Appealing as a verb, not a noun	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/24 05:35 PM
–	I think that, talking in simple terms, most of the dating problems can be explained by: men tend to want women more than women want men, and men are also on average hornier. In REAL LIFE 'high status men' don't pay any mind to lower statuses than 'high status' women do. On hookup apps women know what they are getting into	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/24 05:34 PM
1	Male value must not be measured in women So you're arguing against men reducing their dependence on women, growing stronger social bonds, supporting each other emotionally?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/24 05:07 PM
1	Male value must not be measured in women Except women alone in their thirties aren't committing suicide at alarming rates	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/24 04:44 PM
0	Studies consistently show that women do not all perceive the same type of men as physically attractive, that a high majority of women prefer long term relationships and that a man’s social status/abilities and economic security are far more important than his looks Ummmmmm my sweetest babydoll precious one, that's not what women on this sub say. Go to the 'for women' tag and read the numerous posts about what they expect of partners. But even saying "he's employed" and "can pay half the bills" or even "he can support me raising our children at home" is not "insatiable greed for more" The women youre thinking about are just as numerous if not extremely less common than men trying to have as much sex with as much women as possible.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/24 04:42 PM
1	Studies consistently show that women do not all perceive the same type of men as physically attractive, that a high majority of women prefer long term relationships and that a man’s social status/abilities and economic security are far more important than his looks No they are not. Even if you wouldn't date someone who isn't your preference, men who don't meet your list are still valid human beings that you don't treat like trash for not meeting your list. She can date whoever she wants and be as exclusive as she wants, and it's still not a rule that men must follow, she has no control over you. Except when you are trying to get something from her where she has any right to say yes or no for any reason. Just because you want her reeeeeaally bad it doesn't …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/24 04:34 PM
1	Studies consistently show that women do not all perceive the same type of men as physically attractive, that a high majority of women prefer long term relationships and that a man’s social status/abilities and economic security are far more important than his looks A woman having sex consensually with someone who isn't you isn't an insult to you. It has nothing to do with you, which is why you're so insulting I suppose. They aren't 'giving it away for free' because we are not an object to be sold. I can't even give you a pass for not being a hypocrite since you so obviously see us as commodities. I'm also the type of person who despises promiscuity, don't do it, wouldn't date a guy who does it, and will teach my children not to do it. But not because sex m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/24 04:26 PM
1	Studies consistently show that women do not all perceive the same type of men as physically attractive, that a high majority of women prefer long term relationships and that a man’s social status/abilities and economic security are far more important than his looks I don't date them. Promiscuous men don't wait to initiate sex and after rejecting them they move on. I don't treat them like shit even when dealing with THEIR frustration and pressure. We just go separate ways	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/24 04:20 PM
8	Male value must not be measured in women The bar is in hell 🥺	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/24 04:15 PM
1	Studies consistently show that women do not all perceive the same type of men as physically attractive, that a high majority of women prefer long term relationships and that a man’s social status/abilities and economic security are far more important than his looks To me it's the man not being a financial burden	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/24 04:15 PM
3	Male value must not be measured in women You sound more afraid of looking weak than of any actual consequence of showing that you have any feeling other than anger. You know what's better than being alone? Being with someone that you can be next to and yet completely disengaged from and doing your own thing. Peace and company in one. You can only get there through vulnerability and familiarity though. Only when you don't see every other person as an enemy, or turn them into one with your own antagonism and fear. I don't buy the bullshi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/24 04:07 PM
4	Male value must not be measured in women Yep, seriously. I think It would decrease men's dependence on women and grow stronger social bonds. It breaks my heart seeing men completely abandoning a social life in their twenties and having no friends at all by their thirties. I also see men getting with women who have no business being in a relationship with how shallow and selfish they are. Who is looking out for those guys?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/24 12:24 AM
5	Male value must not be measured in women So was the sarcasm where he said Men should call each other strong and independent, or is the sarcasm where he said men should only be with women who add value to his life? You're right that if this comment was sarcastic I did not read it as such, I just don't think it was sarcastic. Men should talk each other up and encourage each other to have higher self-worth	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/24 12:13 AM
2	Male value must not be measured in women So do I , where was the sarcasm supposed to be? Or were you looking through my comments and replied to the wrong thing?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/24 12:01 AM
1	If both partners work, what are men's expectations for a wife/mother? Lol definitely causing a ruckus	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 11:26 PM
3	Male value must not be measured in women So you think men should be with women even when they don't add value to his life?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 11:04 PM
1	Nowadays women usually have the upper hand in relationships It would mean that all the women just wanting casual sex would have to take responsibility and find a man to commit to, equalizing, supply and demand No more chats. Getting 90% of the women or however that statistic is supposed to go now.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 11:01 PM
3	Nowadays women usually have the upper hand in relationships We've already been through this. The equivalency Is women treating men however, they feel like because men will do anything for a crumb of sex anyways. It's perpetuating on both sides. I don't care if vapid selfish Stacy 's get laid and who I choose to be with I will suffer the consequences for, just like anyone. You seem to only care about casual sex examples too btw. Women vet differently when they want different things. I'm not trying to fix men at large by picking a good man to be with I pic…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 10:53 PM
3	If both partners work, what are men's expectations for a wife/mother? You need a nap	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 10:38 PM
0	Nowadays women usually have the upper hand in relationships I really appreciate this outlook, I think browsing this subreddit is making me jaded and negative when it comes to the opposite sex. My partner identifies as red pill and he is not remotely as hateful and misogynistic as the men I see here often I think a lot of really hurt people just end up here, thanks for some words of compassion. Insanity ♥️	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 09:52 PM
1	Nowadays women usually have the upper hand in relationships And if men keep their legs closed and only date women who are worthy of them then everything would be fixed too. But that is just as useless of a wish	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 09:46 PM
1	Studies consistently show that women do not all perceive the same type of men as physically attractive, that a high majority of women prefer long term relationships and that a man’s social status/abilities and economic security are far more important than his looks Women having preferences is not hypocritical. Women making fun of men for being short and timid but not women for being short and timid is hypocritical too, and also really asshole behavior. Some men don't like sluts some men love sluts. Whatever. Preferences don't matter	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 09:14 PM
1	Studies consistently show that women do not all perceive the same type of men as physically attractive, that a high majority of women prefer long term relationships and that a man’s social status/abilities and economic security are far more important than his looks I don't care who you want to date or not. I just care about hypocritical judgment. I don't want to date promiscuous men but I also don't think they are subhuman for sleeping around either	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 09:03 PM
3	Studies consistently show that women do not all perceive the same type of men as physically attractive, that a high majority of women prefer long term relationships and that a man’s social status/abilities and economic security are far more important than his looks I don't care who you want to date or not. I don't want to date promiscuous men either. I just don't treat them like they're trash for it because I'm not a hypocrite	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 09:01 PM
1	Nowadays women usually have the upper hand in relationships And if men close their legs and only date women who are worthy then everything would be fixed too. But that's just as useless to say	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 08:59 PM
2	Studies consistently show that women do not all perceive the same type of men as physically attractive, that a high majority of women prefer long term relationships and that a man’s social status/abilities and economic security are far more important than his looks You didn't answer but your attitude is obvious and that guy wanted to play devil's advocate. I'm not tricking you or playing mind games with you, in my first comment I said that it would be inconsistent to judge a woman for it and not a man	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 08:20 PM
2	Nowadays women usually have the upper hand in relationships I don't think women are perfect at it, I think that morality is attractive though and as such sorts itself out. I think it's just as true in the reverse for men with women too though. Morality is attractive and is a Hallmark of a good and successful relationship. What happens is that the MOST desirable women are stupid young adults in their twenties, just as the most desirable men are also stupid young adults in their twenties. You're asking the women to take on the responsibility to put their l…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 08:08 PM
2	Studies consistently show that women do not all perceive the same type of men as physically attractive, that a high majority of women prefer long term relationships and that a man’s social status/abilities and economic security are far more important than his looks I'm not backing you into anything. If you judge women for something and don't judge man for that same thing then it's hypocrisy	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 07:23 PM
1	Studies consistently show that women do not all perceive the same type of men as physically attractive, that a high majority of women prefer long term relationships and that a man’s social status/abilities and economic security are far more important than his looks Where did I rationalize it's okay for women to be hypocritical?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 07:21 PM
3	Nowadays women usually have the upper hand in relationships I mean, I won't shy away from saying women need to pick better partners, you have a good point, but I think men need way more encouragement not to sell themselves short for any sex they can get. Men need to pick better partners, women need to pick better partners and most importantly, everybody needs to focus on being a better partner themselves rather than obsessing over the other gender. It's not women's job to make men more moral by rewarding the moral ones with sex	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 07:20 PM
1	Studies consistently show that women do not all perceive the same type of men as physically attractive, that a high majority of women prefer long term relationships and that a man’s social status/abilities and economic security are far more important than his looks Physically inferior? Yes obviously. Physical superiority is attractive and men are biologically bigger taller and stronger on average. The preference for men being confident and assertive is because then it feels like you can rely on them. Women can want a confident and assertive man while being confident and assertive themselves, it's not a competition or an inferiority/superiority struggle. If a woman is meek in personality as well? Then yeah I guess you could call her inferior, I'd say that's…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 06:59 PM
4	Studies consistently show that women do not all perceive the same type of men as physically attractive, that a high majority of women prefer long term relationships and that a man’s social status/abilities and economic security are far more important than his looks The only problem is with hypocrisy. You can't judge women for being promiscuous and not men without being a hypocrite	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 06:48 PM
0	Studies consistently show that women do not all perceive the same type of men as physically attractive, that a high majority of women prefer long term relationships and that a man’s social status/abilities and economic security are far more important than his looks Men can have whatever preferences they want to. There is just no shortage of men who aren't hung up on body count I'm saying this as a low body count woman with a boyfriend who does have a preference.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 06:45 PM
1	If both partners work, what are men's expectations for a wife/mother? Women don't want to live in instagram	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 06:42 PM
2	Studies consistently show that women do not all perceive the same type of men as physically attractive, that a high majority of women prefer long term relationships and that a man’s social status/abilities and economic security are far more important than his looks Those aren't rules those are preferences	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 06:42 PM
2	Studies consistently show that women do not all perceive the same type of men as physically attractive, that a high majority of women prefer long term relationships and that a man’s social status/abilities and economic security are far more important than his looks It is hypocrisy	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 06:41 PM
1	Studies consistently show that women do not all perceive the same type of men as physically attractive, that a high majority of women prefer long term relationships and that a man’s social status/abilities and economic security are far more important than his looks Men exist even if you don't want to have sex with them? He's being a hypocrite. Not wanting to sleep with someone for having a lot of partners is fine, but 'giving it to to dusties for free' is not 'disqualifying' it's bitter value judgement. Trying to backpedal it into 'oh I just have a preference' is what I'm calling out	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 06:41 PM
1	If both partners work, what are men's expectations for a wife/mother? I'm serious, I think you have a skewed belief about the average women's motives	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 06:37 PM
6	Studies consistently show that women do not all perceive the same type of men as physically attractive, that a high majority of women prefer long term relationships and that a man’s social status/abilities and economic security are far more important than his looks That's a stupid metaphor that demeans women AND men. A pencil that goes into many sharpeners will be useless, the sharpener is always going to be valued. See how stupid that is? The fact that women can get sex easily if ANYTHING devalues men in the fact that it has created the biggest supply and demand inequality in dating than ever before. Women can't be promiscuous without men after all The only value judgement to be made is by the individual and if you have a hang up about your partners past.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 06:36 PM
2	Nowadays women usually have the upper hand in relationships I agree so much with the need for compassion, men feel worthless and disillusioned en mass, it's brutal. I agree that breaking down the norm and expectation that only men can approach is good and correct but I'm not going to encourage women to cold approach or take risks, specifically because of men's general desperation. If she's sure of his quality and has interest though, absolutely take the first shot! I'm also lukewarm about blaming women for the vetting. Bad male partners and bad female pa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 06:22 PM
11	Male value must not be measured in women This is the only solution I can see too	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 06:06 PM
1	If both partners work, what are men's expectations for a wife/mother? Because you have a chronically online outlook of women. Domestic labor concerns is real and valid but assuming most/all women want an influencer life is weird	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 06:05 PM
0	Studies consistently show that women do not all perceive the same type of men as physically attractive, that a high majority of women prefer long term relationships and that a man’s social status/abilities and economic security are far more important than his looks I suspected hypocrisy too	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 05:57 PM
1	If both partners work, what are men's expectations for a wife/mother? My advice is to take a social media break	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 05:50 PM
6	Studies consistently show that women do not all perceive the same type of men as physically attractive, that a high majority of women prefer long term relationships and that a man’s social status/abilities and economic security are far more important than his looks Do you judge men for it too?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 05:46 PM
1	If both partners work, what are men's expectations for a wife/mother? Absolutely not. Men have way higher sex drives. If you think most women are Instagram influencers my guess is that you spend all your time on I stagram	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 05:42 PM
4	Studies consistently show that women do not all perceive the same type of men as physically attractive, that a high majority of women prefer long term relationships and that a man’s social status/abilities and economic security are far more important than his looks Women can have casual sex for fun too. People have sex with people they wouldn't marry all the time. If you don't condemn men for it then it's inconsistent to condemn women for it	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 05:40 PM
9	Studies consistently show that women do not all perceive the same type of men as physically attractive, that a high majority of women prefer long term relationships and that a man’s social status/abilities and economic security are far more important than his looks Treating a person as a depersonalized object. It may be both by physical objectification and by being a means to an end non-physically	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 05:32 PM
5	If both partners work, what are men's expectations for a wife/mother? Truly not, but still, claiming all women are parasites is a bit far	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 05:30 PM
4	Studies consistently show that women do not all perceive the same type of men as physically attractive, that a high majority of women prefer long term relationships and that a man’s social status/abilities and economic security are far more important than his looks No, but men do. Also men don't refer to it as objectification when they are appreciating a woman's looks either	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 05:27 PM
6	Studies consistently show that women do not all perceive the same type of men as physically attractive, that a high majority of women prefer long term relationships and that a man’s social status/abilities and economic security are far more important than his looks Women are eviscerated daily on this sub for caring about financial stability	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 05:19 PM
7	Nowadays women usually have the upper hand in relationships That Instagram post is ridiculous and I'm not convinced that the majority of women are sex workers, Instagram thots, and devoid of self reflection or responsibility. I do think that social media and bottomless male attention HAS increased the amount of female narcissists considerably but it's increased male narcissists considerably too. Acting like the entire gender has been poisoned is the same as taking any misandrist talking point to heart too. Men aren't monsters and neither are women. Mostl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 05:14 PM
3	Nowadays women usually have the upper hand in relationships You're the one bringing up worst case scenarios as a deterrent to dating, Death is the worst for women closely followed by abuses of all kinds. Sure it's less common than divorce but the stakes are much higher. I also don't think worst case scenarios hold much weight when deciding to enter into a relationship. I'm also NOT arguing that women have it harder. I'm arguing the opposite. Women complain because these things are bothersome and it's a free country. It's also valid complaints. But it is …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 05:03 PM
2	If both partners work, what are men's expectations for a wife/mother? That tension exists in the opposite as well with sex, but that is universal, and women's financial independence reduces our need for men in order to achieve our desires. We can support being single mothers, achieve our own status through success, and it is profoundly more acceptable to be a single woman than it ever has been. All we NEED men for is love and if that love comes with a ton of burden than we can live without it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 04:53 PM
9	If both partners work, what are men's expectations for a wife/mother? Women are not companions, they are not partners, they are not even spectators. They have become adversarial, parasitical, detrimental, and just all around toxic and hellish as fuck in men's lives. From what I can tell this is why you are being downvoted, you are calling women subhuman, and not making a reasonable argument about relationships being increasingly unsatisfying for men like I suspect you think you are. By and large this sub has no problem with men opting out of dating	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 04:47 PM
6	Nowadays women usually have the upper hand in relationships Men complain waaaaay more than women about the dating market (for good reason, they are on the demand side) when women complain it's because men are being absolutely foul online, lying and manipulating to get sex, or because their boyfriends/husbands are not pulling equal weight. The women who are players and misandrists and selfishly out for themselves are trash and get famous for being controversial. Just like misogynistic icons for men. The majority of women and men want the same things out o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 04:30 PM
8	Nowadays women usually have the upper hand in relationships In the majority we do (unless it's just for casual sex). But if there are multiple long term potential guys interested then the one that she's most attracted to is going to get her attention. Its the same for men except they prioritize long term potential even less so idk what the complaint is	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 04:12 PM
4	Nowadays women usually have the upper hand in relationships That's just supply and demand again though. If you have a lot of offers for anything you're going to try and choose the best for yourself. For men that's as hot as possible while still getting love and low maintenance costs, for women that's as successful as possible while still getting love and not abused. The root is just that men's eagerness gives women the opportunities	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 03:43 PM
3	If both partners work, what are men's expectations for a wife/mother? I think men tend to be way more laid back than women, even to the point of laziness, and in the worst cases to selfishness and weaponized incompetence. But that is FAR from being competitive, it's the opposite of active competition	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 03:38 PM
1	If a man's only interest is having sex, why do some insist on treating a lady to date, hoping to get it? This is more true for men, not women	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 03:23 PM
8	If a man's only interest is having sex, why do some insist on treating a lady to date, hoping to get it? There is always highly upvoted responses from women who say they want and feel more comfortable with men they know and have a vibe for, it's because it's true. Casual sex can be unsatisfying and at worst dangerous. Women prefer knowing their partner is not a psycho before they are vulnerable. This OP is clearly rage bait	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 03:22 PM
13	Nowadays women usually have the upper hand in relationships How do you balance equality when men prioritize sex so highly that there will always be a one sided supply and demand?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 03:17 PM
7	Nowadays women usually have the upper hand in relationships Why do you think women who treat men well don't exist?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 03:15 PM
9	If both partners work, what are men's expectations for a wife/mother? Is any of this serious or are you parodying the modern women's call of "you're not competing with other men you're competing with the peace and solitude of her being single"?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 03:06 PM
2	Why don't you approach men? Why do you assume he's a serial killer instead of assuming that he just wasn't that into her but said yes to get laid? That's waaaay more common	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 02:58 PM
3	It feels like women are in one giant collective post-breakup phase Do you not define the fall of society as an apocalypse?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/24 11:26 PM
2	It feels like women are in one giant collective post-breakup phase You can prove that women caused the apocalypse?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/24 11:20 PM
5	It feels like women are in one giant collective post-breakup phase Oh, I didn't realize you were a full-blown conspiracy theorist. I don't believe it's the end of the world and even if it were, it's not because women joined the workforce, sorry	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/24 11:06 PM
7	It feels like women are in one giant collective post-breakup phase I don't foresee women ever being taken out of the workforce, the economy would have to improve in such a dramatic fashion that we could confidently provide for a family on a single income and if that happened a lot would change along with it. So who knows I do think there will be far more unwanted births which will set women far back on average. But a lot of women are still going to have financial success especially consider the education gap that is widening	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/24 10:54 PM
7	It feels like women are in one giant collective post-breakup phase Women didn't gain insight, we gained incomes	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/24 10:45 PM
1	Question for the men, who do you think is going to start men advocacy centers and fight on behalf of men? Do you have any sources that show Earl was being harassed?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/24 01:33 AM
3	Question for the men, who do you think is going to start men advocacy centers and fight on behalf of men? I'm talking about the harassment itself, I've only heard about it in reddit comments and no where else. Just comparing the lack of funding to the disadvantages men face in general by third parties	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 09:19 PM
2	Question for the men, who do you think is going to start men advocacy centers and fight on behalf of men? I'm not saying all causes start with a martyr or all martyrs have successful reforms. I said I'm sorry that Earl's death didn't result in a successful reform. It didn't result in men using collective action to influence policy into more equitable funding of shelters. There was no backlash movement calling for men's shelters despite the fact that it is inspiring how much Earl overcame and sacrificed for his fellow men when he didn't receive the funding that he asked for. If you want to take his s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 08:29 PM
1	Question for the men, who do you think is going to start men advocacy centers and fight on behalf of men? It turns out he blamed the government not feminism, I also couldn't find any source that claimed he was bullied by feminists at all. His despair was from lack of funding for this serious issue	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 07:53 PM
2	Question for the men, who do you think is going to start men advocacy centers and fight on behalf of men? Begone troll	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 07:16 PM
4	Question for the men, who do you think is going to start men advocacy centers and fight on behalf of men? He is a righteous dude who fought for what was right with everything he had. People who use his legacy as a reason NOT to help men are who I am fed up with	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 07:14 PM
2	Question for the men, who do you think is going to start men advocacy centers and fight on behalf of men? I don't worship them. And that's only a fair analysis of you see any and all efforts for civil reform as 'bullying'. Money and political power is the path to reform no matter what the cause is	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 07:00 PM
-1	Question for the men, who do you think is going to start men advocacy centers and fight on behalf of men? You are correct but that's not the legend	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 06:48 PM
3	Question for the men, who do you think is going to start men advocacy centers and fight on behalf of men? It's not an apology it's regret. You do realize that people being unfairly killed for a cause is usually how movements explode into action? I'm not advocating anybody martyr themselves, far from it. I think it's sad that his legacy is that men WONT help other men because of what he suffered. Instead of it rallying men together to support one another even more. Those bullies got exactly what they wanted and cowed any attempts even decades later. Earl is the first response to a post asking "hey wh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 06:44 PM
10	Question for the men, who do you think is going to start men advocacy centers and fight on behalf of men? I'm not a feminist and I agree there needs to be government funding for male centers, but you're also ridiculous for claiming women didn't fight and advocate for shelters. You think feminists can stop male shelters being built but can't influence the building of women's shelters? You can't have it both ways.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 06:30 PM
2	q4a: is sex a need? You are right! The hierarchy pyramids I checked didn't have reproduction listed but I found it when I googled more examples. Thank you for pointing that out and making your position clear	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 06:25 PM
16	Question for the men, who do you think is going to start men advocacy centers and fight on behalf of men? Women faced rape and murder and still made centers for domestic violence victims. Stop your bullshit	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 06:14 PM
-6	Question for the men, who do you think is going to start men advocacy centers and fight on behalf of men? He stood up for what was right and fought for what he believes in. Now you are using him as a reason not to help other men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 06:12 PM
11	Question for the men, who do you think is going to start men advocacy centers and fight on behalf of men? I'm not belittling him, I'm just sorry that he's not an inspiration for men's advocacy and is instead held up as a deterrent	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 06:10 PM
1	Question for the men, who do you think is going to start men advocacy centers and fight on behalf of men? His center was shut down and he committed suicide, blaming feminism in his suicide note. This means that no man can try again ever. Women are too mean and powerful Edit: He didn't blame feminism he blamed the government. And I couldn't find any sources whatsoever to support the claim that he was under harassment from women's advocates or anyone. If you know of a source please share.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 06:05 PM
1	Are companionship and intimacy needs? But it is not unreasonable to take the time to be explicit that it is an emotional and spiritual need not a physiological one and you aren't entitled to it	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 03:43 PM
1	q4a: is sex a need? That actually seems like a great analogue to one another. Maslow has intimacy and social acceptance on the same level of needs, under the umbrella of love and belonging	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 03:41 PM
6	Are companionship and intimacy needs? They are way more common than you think	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 03:38 PM
8	Are companionship and intimacy needs? I think there is a pushback because of the fear of male entitlement, not sexuality in general. I was sexually abused and this whole topic is dangerously close to telling me and other victims that we were forced because our abusers 'needed' it, or other adjacent arguments.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 03:29 PM
0	q4a: is sex a need? Maslow doesn't have sex on his hierarchy of needs at all, but 'intimacy' is three categories from the fundamental physical needs. 'Intimacy' does not necessarily mean 'sex' as a side note, and it is on the social needs level. So if you define the "need" for sex as an aspect of the need for love and belonging (which Maslow does) then I agree, with the caveat that you can achieve intimacy in other ways too. Again, it all comes down to how you define need and you have to understand it's less import…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 02:53 PM
1	q4a: is sex a need? It depends how you define need	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 02:45 PM
1	q4a: is sex a need? Like it's been said elsewhere, you have to define need. You won't look like a walking corpse if you don't get sex. You could be miserable if you never get any kind of affection, but it doesn't cause death. Could it cause depression that leads to suicide? Of course, that's possible. But is it also possible to live a sexless life and still be happy and find purpose? Yes, of course.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 03:39 AM
2	q4a: is sex a need? The original post asked about sex, not affection	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 01:27 AM
8	q4a: is sex a need? Affection is different than sex	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 12:58 AM
11	q4a: is sex a need? You should put that need in your post. Is sex a need for men to be happy? Is sex a need for men to relax? Is sex a need for men to feel valid? Those are relevant questions. Leaving it just as 'need' is abstract and open ended. Most people will have to default to "need to survive" like oxygen and food. So no. It's not a "need" in that sense	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 12:49 AM
1	Q4W: Do you think it's understandable if a guy is celibate simply because he doesn't like his gender role in dating? "BEWARE I LIVE". It's only funny because it's truuuuue simps are going to simp. And women will push their advantage because there are only benefits and no consequences. Unethical but it is human nature. I condemn it but I understand it	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/24 11:54 PM
1	Q4W: Do you think it's understandable if a guy is celibate simply because he doesn't like his gender role in dating? I think it's a bit premature to insist the patriarchy is over, especially given the last 8 years politically. Other than that I see your point. Hot women have unlimited power romantically and its diminishing returns the further down the attractiveness scale you go. Men built the scale with their money and attention, women just leech off of it and try and climb it as high as possible	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/24 10:53 PM
1	Q4W: Do you think it's understandable if a guy is celibate simply because he doesn't like his gender role in dating? It's not for women to change. Men are the ones being disadvantaged	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/24 10:14 PM
4	Q4W: Do you think it's understandable if a guy is celibate simply because he doesn't like his gender role in dating? I'm a bit confused. It sounds like feminism was winding down and fading, then women came under attack by men in power, and feminism came back with a vengeance in justifiable defense. So isn't that truly the fault of the patriarchy like the feminists said? I'm purely going off your comment here, no disrespect meant	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/24 10:05 PM
2	Q4W: Do you think it's understandable if a guy is celibate simply because he doesn't like his gender role in dating? I'm not sure to be honest, but I feel like the answer lies in understanding the ways that feminism has been successful in dismantling the gender expectations put on women and using similar tools. I honestly believe it will even out as just a matter of time, (in the big picture, like a generation or two) because that's the way social expectations have been moving. But this isn't a scientific conclusion, just a hunch	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/24 09:30 PM
4	Q4W: Do you think it's understandable if a guy is celibate simply because he doesn't like his gender role in dating? They are paying for a service. I don't consider myself to be paying my mechanics rent when he fixes my car. I don't consider men to be violent murdering rapists and you shouldn't consider single women to be living off of donations from simps. Both would be ridiculous	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/24 08:31 PM
5	Q4W: Do you think it's understandable if a guy is celibate simply because he doesn't like his gender role in dating? It should be ignored in the same way that men murdering their wives is ignored. And I'm pretty sure that is more frequent than men paying women's rent when they aren't in a relationship. Extreme examples are not helpful when discussing average peoples relationships	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/24 08:09 PM
3	Q4W: Do you think it's understandable if a guy is celibate simply because he doesn't like his gender role in dating? But it is enough to be an outlier and should be ignored in the discussion of gender politics on the whole	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/24 07:51 PM
10	Q4W: Do you think it's understandable if a guy is celibate simply because he doesn't like his gender role in dating? While I agree that women wanting freedom from restrictive gender roles who still expect men to be completely sacrificial in the dating process are hypocrites, I also think that is limited to top percentage women looks wise. They are over flowing with pretty privilege and hordes of men are going to give them whatever they want regardless of the situation. I suspect the bulk of women expect some sexist favoritism in dating to a degree, but not having Simps pay their rent like this thread assumes m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/24 07:20 PM
8	Q4M: Given the "ideal" wife/girlfriend/partner, do you genuinely enjoy providing? So you don't understand women or religion. Good to know	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/24 03:53 AM
9	Q4M: Given the "ideal" wife/girlfriend/partner, do you genuinely enjoy providing? Providing is an inherent aspect of being in charge. You don't deserve it	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/24 01:19 AM
13	Q4M: Given the "ideal" wife/girlfriend/partner, do you genuinely enjoy providing? If she's providing for herself then why would she allow you to make the decisions or lead, you do nothing to earn that over her	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/24 01:05 AM
-2	What is a show of submission a woman can give to a man ? He does a lot for me, but this is a topic about what I do for him. There's nothing wrong with taking care of your partner in selfless way. Men are raised to self sacrifice for their partners too and it's not demeaning, but it WOULD BE prideful to think you are too good/ it is too much of a burden to sacrifice for him back	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/24 07:40 PM
-2	What is a show of submission a woman can give to a man ? The last paragraph is most important ♥️ the point of submitting is to be taken care of in return which men excell at. Some other examples off the top of my head I don't see on this thread: Giving your opinion/reasons but accepting when he chooses differently and supporting/not sabotaging the decisions he makes Remembering how you reflect on him/his reputation even when he's not in the room and taking the chance to uplift him when you can Taking pride in your appearance/manners for his family/gue…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/24 06:03 PM
1	If in some parallel universe you could become a 10/10 of either gender....would you chose to be male or female? I would stay a woman, I really love and enjoy my femininity, and I think I would stay with it for that, even beyond the advantages of being a woman	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/24 09:08 PM