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5 very good friends, maybe 10 others I hang out with so 15.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 07:53 AM
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Yeah I have the internet so I know that gays are more promiscuous than the general population
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 06:23 AM
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Since I have a deep love for women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 04:42 PM
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Are you serious. Just go read a few of 'her' comments
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 04:20 PM
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So you say bullshit about women just to make people angry? Grow up. Idk about marriage incentives. People should get married if they are religious and in love and want to remain together for the rest of their lives, not to get an extra vote or tax breaks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 05:00 AM
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It's really unfair and it will skew things towards unrestricted capitalism. Whats wrong w capitalism...? At least elections won't be based on 'oh should we spend billions on freeloaders or not?' Freeloaders will always vote for the party that gives them more welfare checks. That's hardly the type of voter we need. They skew the elections, and they make up such a huge part of the population that its hard for a party that doesn't cater to them to be elected. But catering to them ruins the country.…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 02:07 AM
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A lot of people have hard lives. Doesnt mean they should all kill or steal or do Meth. Smh
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 10:53 PM
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Go away
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 09:45 PM
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Uhh Im just tired of males pretending to be red pill women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 09:32 PM
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They've aged but they didn't grow up
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 09:30 PM
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Oh you are a moderator here? damn, why the f do I even post here?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 09:29 PM
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It would have been way less creepy, and equally true, if you had just said 20
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 08:36 PM
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Uhhh maybe some of them? i also think it was probably a joke to some extent. Because they are less awkward, more confident, possibly better looking, usually have worked out, played sports... Because knowledge in fields like Engineering isn't really sexy per se? Pretty obvious. Because guys who ae in engineering or premed or science are busy, and I'm guessing this girl isn't in any of those disciplines, and thus doesn't know any of them? Who says size doesn't matter? Wtf? Who tells you guys this …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 08:33 PM
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WOW! This is hilarious. Guy who says misogyny doesn't exist immediately follows it with a post full of misogyny. I think you broke the ironymeter
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 08:23 PM
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:(
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 04:36 PM
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Well I think there is a little bit of a difference between girls who were sexually repressed when they were young and guys who were always able to get sex but did not because they had faith in God. I doubt these types of guys would be adulterers, and if they were Catholic they would not divorce either! Perfect for marrying really, but they don't really exist. The one's who are virgins generally are involuntarily so.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 06:54 AM
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Bill Clinton's number tells us nothing about him. Lets say it's 15. So what does this say? Nothing. But when you add that maybe 10 of them were while he was married to Hilary, and maybe 5 of those were sexual assaults, then yeah, it's a problem. But the number itself gives away hardly nothing. So mine... lets say it's 6. What does this tell you about me? Nothing. But someone may assume that I am less chaste than I actually am from that number, even though I could have had 5 before 16 and 1 after…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 06:16 AM
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Yeah me too. Unless he had a good reason like not doing it for religious purposes, in which case its totally cool
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 06:36 PM
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Not really. Everyone lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 06:21 PM
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Well men usually end up judging you based on a few numbers like your age and number of partners. Better to just get to know me
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 06:19 PM
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Yeah but why does it matter if he knows any of that? How does that have much to do w who I am now?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 06:18 PM
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They really don't. They go through tough times - having a divorce, break up, or being incels - and react to it with misogyny + AWALT. They sell their soul so that they can fuck the bitchiest of women. So yeah, they don't deserve good women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 06:15 PM
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Mine is an athlete. So naturally... I've never asked him though, since I don't really want to know. But otoh, it doesn't really matter does it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 05:44 PM
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I suppose. Honestly I don't mind if someone uses contraceptives if they dont want children. Lord knows there are enough unwanted children in the world. But monogamy is a must or else you make sex something completely different. Honestly. I don't mean to be a creeper, but why is it that people on r/childfree are also on other nutter subforums like r/fatpeoplehate? Like... whats the point of going on these forums to hate on fat people and people w children? Like... I used to make fun of fat people…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 06:52 AM
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Not really. There are so many different reasons that you may have a high or low number. If a girl had a few partners in the first two years of high school, but only one after that, what does that tell you about the person she is now? Nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 04:02 PM
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That picture is quite unsettling.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 03:06 PM
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Blah blah blah!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 03:05 PM
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oh no!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 02:10 PM
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Okay then those people would not exist! We're talking about ideal worlds here. I think happy nuclear families are perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 01:40 PM
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They should have children! Children are great
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 12:11 PM
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former slut Lol thats an exaggeration. He's probably had more partners than I've had fyi.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 12:11 PM
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Well women w men and replace hot guys w girls and.. i) Yes, definitely. ii) 13. High school
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 05:07 AM
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Who gives a damn and who thinks about this crap?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 05:06 AM
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Not necessarily. But yes I don't believe in contraceptives so kind of... I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 05:05 AM
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It's a secret you have to unlock! But ideally my husband wouldn't even ask me cause your number says absolutely nothing about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 04:05 AM
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Oh no not this again Whats with you guys and rape victims shaming...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 03:38 AM
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Well it's morally wrong too. But yeah, in this case the more important point is that it's not the ideal arrangement for human society.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 03:25 AM
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loool, literally every girl's number is 7. It's the perfect number. It shows that you are fun and party, but also have standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 02:49 AM
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It's not really lying. It's just half the truth :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 02:45 AM
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It's not a very high number. Not that it matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 02:44 AM
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Because they are naturally unstable. Also kids don't deserve to be in that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 02:43 AM
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A number doesn't define you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 02:41 AM
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rolls eyes Men think with their like... left side of their brains or whatever. Using numbers and stuff to judge who you are. Your age, weight and of course, number. As if that tells everything about someone? Better to just get to know them and not obsess over a number.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 02:39 AM
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Thanks :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 02:35 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 05:34 PM
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Don't overreact. I lie to my daddy as well, who is the closest person to me. It's just better for his state of mind and my relationship w him if he doesn't know all the details of my sexual history. its the same for my bf. Otoh, I'll probably tell my husband the real number.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 05:05 PM
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What? Why
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 04:32 PM
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Sometimes... Depending on who's asking. Best friends: The real number Anonymous: Around the real number Boyfriend: Half the number Church group: One third of the number Mom: Myofb, it's less than yours Dad: Zero. Ofc
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 01:32 PM
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You would cease to exist :) Or you would find your soul mate and realize you don't need anyone else! :D
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 12:19 PM
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Permanent monogamy for everyone. Everyone having a soul mate <3
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 09:52 AM
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I think it's really that marrying young women is no longer the norm of successful countries, and that's why there is that correlation. However, many historically successful cultures did have this characteristic. Like ancient greeks, medieval muslims, renaissance Europe etc. So overall there is no correlation and I dont think your argument is great. In the modern world, marrying young girls generally is done for reasons that show backwards thinking. People who are backwards are unlikely to be par…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 09:49 AM
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Yeah no. That argument is that technically it does not follow. But logically it does. Think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 09:46 AM
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What the fuck? Who are these women? I don't know where this myth of 'women don't desire sex' comes from. Smh
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 04:07 AM
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Well, when something becomes normalized more people do it. Like... weed is kinda normalized here, but not really. So about half of teens do it, or around that. Meanwhile literally every one I know has drank alcohol. But they are both basically equiavalent. Weed is not much worse than alcohol. Normalizing it will definitely increase consumption. Colorado has shown that. Most normal people don't want to deal w drug dealers of any sort, but legal weed is a different story. Will it increase the amou…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 01:30 AM
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They won't suffer but if suddenly overnight women were to stop wearing make up I'm sure men wouldn't like the change very much
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 10:38 PM
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Well many women look much better w make up. If all women no longer used make up, that wouldn't really be that bad for us, only for men cause now all women look less beautiful
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 10:20 PM
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I reaallly doubt that. Alcohol is the easiest thing to get. My friends and I started drinking when I was 13. Once weed is legalized it'll be normalized. It'll be easier to get and kids that wouldn't have done it otherwise will do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 10:06 PM
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you seem like a pretty good person from your posts on here. Yay :))) dances
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 05:16 PM
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who breaks up to have sex Nah, an abstinent gf who broke up cause he cheated then beat me up for kissing his friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 03:22 PM
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Yes, definitely.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 02:24 PM
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Sure, but the obsession that PUAs and playboys have is something different. It reeks of seeking validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 01:15 PM
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If all women ditched make up, the only ones who would suffer are men. :/
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 11:37 AM
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They aren't necessarily evil, they are just, in most cases, genetically inferior. And thus natural selection determines that their genes are most likely to die out in a society like ours.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 10:20 AM
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One of the better posts here. I think it's completely true. Chasing the dreams of the past is one of the most futile things you can do. It's always just out of your reach
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 10:18 AM
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I don't think you can just learn charm by watching a few videos
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 10:06 AM
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Yeah they do
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 10:06 AM
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2016: shitty year or shittiest year? Shittiest. Broke up w my LTR bf, broke my abstinence pledge, got terrible grades in school, daddy fell badly sick, best friend moved away etc etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 02:59 AM
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a) It's often BS b) Learning pick up lines and trying to mimic some PUA will just make you come across as a robot.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 02:25 AM
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Or people who never grew up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 02:16 AM
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I really don't have these cliques in my college. I think it basically comes w greek life, but my college doesn't have greek life at all (we have some other system that doesnt exclude anyone.) In my college its basically like do whatever you want and no one really cares if you are a loner or the life of the party cause no matter what 90% of the college doesnt know who you are. But w greek life I'm sure you get popularity contests. After college it's probably the young, hot and rich that are at th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 02:15 AM
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I actually agree somewhat. Dating often doesn't feel worth it. For me the guy always turns out to be an asshole :/ So move on. Why complain about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 02:09 AM
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Well yes. I'm above average though. I'd wager a below average girl can't really find a guy she's very attracted to on Tinder. That's just the nature of this game.. you have to settle. But I'm sure that once you are in love w someone, in a relationship w them, you tend to find them more attractive in every way. unmentionable thoughts Like suicide? Rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 05:52 PM
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Why do you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 02:42 PM
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What a ridiculous statement. Smh
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 05:11 AM
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I used to be on this Christian marriage website. One day Rollo Tomassi and his goons came to that Christian marriage blog to talk about 'dread' and they insulted some other female commenter and talked about weird stuff that made no sense to me. So I went over to Rollo's blog and started fighting w them! Then he banned me and I found TRP here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 02:42 AM
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Nope. Where I live it isn't really considered good to be "sexually liberated."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 03:18 PM
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I don't think so. That's not what I learnt about autism. His behavior is basically in line w what I've heard and read about autism. Yeah... I suppose it doesn't sound too abnormal. But he didn't look like overly shy or something, he was like far more interested in playing with his napkin than in saying anything or even listening. Like people can easily tell there is something different about him. As I said I'm hoping university makes him better, but I won't be surprised if he doesnt find anyone …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 02:55 PM
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I'm wealthy, well educated, attractive, well mannered. I'm loyal and am willing to sacrifice everything for my spouse and children. Etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 02:07 PM
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So, is there a "sisterhood" among women? Certainly not. All the females in the world are not in a giant sorority.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 01:55 AM
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Pretty sure half of them can't vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 01:54 AM
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My cousin hardly talks. He's also not good looking at all (I think thats also a disorder since our family is quite good looking) and doesn't behave normally so yeah.. Idk. He's high functioning in that he's actually quite smart and gets good marks at school, and can occasionally hold a conversation, but he usually keeps to himself and does weird things. I've taken him out w my friends (all girls) and he never said a word, just played with things in his hands and eventually begged me to take him …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 03:19 PM
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Umm, anecdotal, but my friends and I do get catcalled every time we're in downtown Not really by white men... its mostly others.
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Oh no! How tall are you?
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Umm kind of. But the percentage of men who are 6'3 and above is so low they aren't really hurting anyone elses chances of dating. If someone is 5'11 and is complaining that his height is the reason he can't get girls, he needs to stfu. Most girls are completely fine w men around that height. As you said, they want a man around 5' taller, and the average is 5'6. Umm lots of people have told me they find my height cute. And besides, it doesn't matter, I'm not autistic like most red pillers so I do…
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Well, it is, but kissing the same sex isn't really homosexuality.
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Okay okay, lets not talk about my ex (probably not ex anymore actually!!). Im just gonna quickly go back to your previous post. I was not arguing that men should be vulnerable. Vulnerability is obviously not attractive (usually.) If a man breaks down and cries, or runs away from something, or is overly sensitive, then obviously that won't attract any woman. And it won't help much for suicidal thoughts if you can express your emotions but are completely failing in the sexual market. But... I don'…
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/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 01:42 AM
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Oh no! I sent him a pic, hope he didn't lose his frame :(
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 11:39 PM
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Yes, everything is racist. I don't even know why you are bringing up racism here :/ Is this satire/irony/sarcasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 10:50 PM
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I dont remember you :( :(
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 10:02 PM
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liar! https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/4kmuls/bf_avoids_consoling_gf_after_she_hears_terrible/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 10:01 PM
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Do I know ya???
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 09:23 PM
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Sounds too geeky 4 me Voila! https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/4kmuls/bf_avoids_consoling_gf_after_she_hears_terrible/ http://imgur.com/kFUAPPc
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 07:53 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 07:13 PM
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What can I say. I'm too hot even for PPD. In all seriousness though I have no idea whats going on :/
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/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 01:54 AM
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Oh yeah, you have no idea ;). Why do you think they crowned him king Red Piller? For reals though, he told me I could work as a pour girl for him when I turned 21. You promised me a job u/Rollo-Tomassi !!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 01:43 AM
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No but for real though, he wont even talk to me. He just deletes my posts whenever he can xD Pretty funny. I'm the ONLY person he finds intolerable. Get on my level lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 05:28 PM
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Yeah how did you know! Rollo's history sounds the same as mine?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 05:27 PM
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Is it that obvious?? :o
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 05:26 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 08:31 AM
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Cool, maybe now he can build new walls for his echo chamber.
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/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 08:22 AM
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I really dislike Emma Watson. I remember when she basically forced Malala Yusafzay to say that she's a feminist. I was like smh.
/r/MensRights02/10/16 02:04 PM
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Yay :D
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 09:33 PM
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Ahahaha. Great post Liz :) Btw, italics are done by an asterisk * like this :D
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/16 08:32 PM
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I think many of them are pretty new to TRP or only observe it on the surface. You have to go pretty deep and think pretty deep in order to see the validity in some of the things TRP says. As a woman especially, you need to possess a significant amount of insight to understand things from a TRPers point of view. Not everyone has that insight, and not everyone is willing to actually explore TRP in depth to see what they are saying. I should note that I think TRP is mostly nonsense, but has some tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 08:04 AM
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Why not both? Mock the ridiculous crap you guys post, and try to engage in serious discussion when you guys are being kind of sane. OTOH, I do agree that it's kind of silly for blues to post here. I've come to realize this forum is complete nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 03:47 PM
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Why? I'm a realist. My brother is much more happy and successful now. Idk about military schools.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 02:38 AM
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Yeah but some sexual success with 22 year olds is more desired by you lot than lots of sexual success with 35 year olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 08:50 PM
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Idk, I've had no experience in it. My brother definitely got bullied, but he probably deserved it too because he was lazy, fat and shy. But eventually he liked the place and he came back as a real man
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 08:49 PM
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Yeah... BP isn't self improvement its just satire. My brother went to military school. That's probably the best way to improve yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 03:54 PM
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Generally I've found that things that aren't politically correct aren't correct either. But, I've seen several universities publish politically incorrect things. So it seems they are more concerned with being correct, not being non-offensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 03:52 PM
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Blue Pillers are a) realistic and b) pragmatic. They aren't chasing something for their egos and aren't motivated by anger, resentment and bitterness. Virginity is okay to desire in your wife, but it's not realistic. In this society, it's most likely not going to happen unless you are a member of some ultra-conservative church or marry a Jew, Muslim or some foreigner. So as a blue piller I don't want to encourage this desire because it's not healthy to have unrealistic desires. On Rollo Tomassi'…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 03:32 PM
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Being nice as a sexual strategy is deceitful and stupid, that's what we mock. As for TRP, we mock the misogyny on there. My brother was fat, antisocial and depressed. He changed himself and he didn't do it by being an asshole either. There are plenty of ways you can improve yourself without needing the Red Pill
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 03:25 PM
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Most of them are fake or partially fake, imo. They read like the writings of people who hardly talk to girls. I think some of the points TRP brings up are somewhat true, but I think the conclusions are incorrect, and the points are mostly to paint women as negatively as possible. Furthermore, TRP generalizes too much. It also only applies it's points to women and not men. Example, AF/BB? I'm sorta attractive, 21, but I'm abstinent and want to get married. I know a lot of women like that. Stats s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 04:55 AM
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Please explain it to me. My feemale brain is not capable of understanding this by myself :(
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 04:06 AM
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I disagree. I want to help guys, I really do. TRP is cancer though. It advertises itself as a self-help forum and has (fake) FRs to prove it, but in reality it just causes it's members to hate and resent women by teaching them pseudoscientific nonsense that paint women negatively. I've seen guys posting about these problems on other reddit forums I go to (mostly on Christianity and Catholicism) and they get much better advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 03:40 AM
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How is being average or below average an excuse for misogyny? I don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 03:37 AM
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Well I don't see peer reviewed reports and university degrees and research dedicated to it either. Neuroplasticity trumps evolutionary psychology to such a degree that it's pointless taking evopsyche too seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/16 06:59 PM
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Unless you become a millionaire, then Im gonna say around 24. TRP is wrong about the guys peak because in western society wealth and status doesn't matter as much anymore. Men don't age like wine anymore. Also whats with all these peak SMV threads. Is everyone really that insecure?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/16 03:54 AM
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Taking a break from this stuff really makes you realize how ridiculous it all is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/16 03:50 AM
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This statistic itself states that 56% of women have between 3 and 14 partners and 51% of men have between 3 and 14 partners which clearly demonstrates average women are more often sharing average men than average men are attracting women. What the hell? That's almost negligible, let alone a four times ratio. None of these studies matters as all it demonstrates is who messaged whom; it has no correlation to who dated or had sexual relations with whom. Its very unlikely that women dated and had se…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 12:23 AM
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from the graphs. if you want to argue w me at least make an effort. if you want to merely hold your preconceptions then do so, but dont waste my time.. As for the last, its a comclusion that is quite obvious if you had ever taken statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 04:20 PM
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If that's all the issues, then that's pretty terrible, since none of them are actually 'issues' as I explained in my reply to him. "which means it logically follows that more women are having sex with fewer men" It does not logically follow, according to the SAME graph in that same post that you did not read properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 01:53 PM
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Actually, none of those are 'issues.' It's all explained in that thread. First, 80% of men did not have mediocre sex lives as evidenced by the average partners in the last year and lifetime sexual partners statistics. Granted, the majority of men were serially monogamous. However, so were the majority of women. The promiscuous populations were mostly promiscuous with each other. Now, as for the graph, what it shows is that most women can only agree that some men are very attractive. However, thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 01:51 PM
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"That doesn't mean evolution has not affected psychology of the modern human or that neuroplasticity utterly wipes out such selection." Naa, the point was simply that it's so much more important that modeling human behavior based on evolutionary psychology is largely a waste of time. In my opinion of course... Next... The thing is, 80% of men would much prefer to have sex with the top 20% of women also. It's just that men desire sex so much that they settle for lower. Also, most women do not des…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 03:10 AM
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""Best genetics" is subjective" Indeed. Besides, neuroplasticity trumps evolutionary psychology to such an extent that the latter is thought of as pseudoscience. The claim that women gravitate towards the best genetics and nothing else is not true. The thing is, women desire partners for more than just sex, whereas men mostly just want sex. But the things that women desire are not possible unless the man is being mostly monogamous, and this forces other women and men to monogamy as well. By this…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 02:07 AM
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Well you are wrong because I won't hand wave it away, but neither will I bring up some crappy anecdotal evidence to support my position (unlike SOME people wink wink). Actually, I've statistically disproved this already - https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/4jnwn7/serious_post_debunking_8020_and_hypergamy_with/ Now, impress me and provide a good argument, or better yet admit you are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 01:03 AM
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That you are an incel/late bloomer?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 11:57 PM
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Uhh low supply coinciding with high demand explains this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 11:55 PM
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Uhhh... So generally the men who have resources aren't always the one with the best genetics. The number who have both are even less than 20%. So yeah, obviously women are attracted to the best of the best, but so are men. No shit sherlock. 80% of women are attracted to the best 20% of guys, and similarly 80% of men are attracted to the top 20% of women more than other women. But in general people approach others of their own level of attraction, and thus 80/20 isn't really observed in society, …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 11:51 PM
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80/20 is complete nonsense. There are absolutely no statistics that support the view that 80% of women seek 20% of men. It's beyond ridiculous. Bitter ramblings from guys who are too upset that they aren't getting any.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 11:46 PM
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"As long as they don't fret about the SMV decrease and condemn male sexuality for it, all is well." You mean EXACTLY what MGTOW do?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/16 04:29 PM
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Yes. This is well documented. Research shows that the more 'equal' the marriage (the more the woman works a career and the husband does housework) the less sex the husband and wife are having.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 06:07 PM
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Okay, true enough. I'll think of some examples. But btw, Undwin says that male sexual repression causes energies to be diverted into actual productivity. That doesn't make sense according to TRP philosophy. TRP says that with more female sexual freedom, actually MORE guys are left partnerless. That should increase productivity given Undwin's thesis.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 09:42 PM
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"It doesn't focus on capitalism so as to improve the lot of most of its citizens" The Islamic countries I went to are very very capitalist actually. Female sexuality certainly seems to have something to do with it. Islam was modernizing earlier and women had more rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 09:38 PM
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"virtually every culture that did NOT restrict female sexuality was a culture in decline " Complete nonsense. The Islamic world restricts female sexuality to a horrendous degree, and is hardly doing well. In their golden age, women there were treated better than they are now, relative to the rest of the world. That's just one example.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 01:26 PM
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What I don't like is a guy who is around my height or shorter. But average height is competely okay. It's a bonus, not a necessity, if the guy is over 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 01:24 PM
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Good, less teen moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 01:21 PM
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Ah I see, and single men won't exaggerate how much sex they have at all, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 09:14 PM
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I'm not sure how many of us actually leave our husbands just because we feel like it (divorce rape.) I think its a low percentage. Probably more likely that the guy is drunk, abusive or unemployed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 03:04 PM
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But you can't trust her? You seem to have a very negative view of this whole thing...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 02:47 PM
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Once again, worst possible scenario. Maybe she wasn't a slut? Maybe she's only been in a few LTRs that didn't work out? I have plenty of friends who are like that, who have counts less than 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 01:47 PM
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Well, the average age of marriage is 27. So a significant amount do get married with several years left before 'the wall.' Also, can't a man fall in love? Want to spend the rest of his life with a woman who is faithful to him? That dream used to be significant enough for millions of men to gladly marry just for the possibility of realizing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 12:55 PM
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Maybe if you are obsessed with sex, then yeah, it might be the most boring part of your life. But I don't think it is for others.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 12:49 PM
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There is quite a lot of time between 25 and menopause.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 12:48 PM
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Not necessarily.. That's just the worst possible outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 12:48 PM
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But if she's choosing him to spend the rest of her life with, how is he a silver medal? Basically she has to be a virgin to make it a good deal? Then isn't every guy after the first a silver medal?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 07:34 AM
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Who says? Numerous studies show that married men have the most sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 07:33 AM
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Well, okay. But that's just you. I think for a lot of men, it's a good deal. Particularly traditional complimentarian marriages where the husband is the head of the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 10:19 PM
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Sex, emotional support, financial support, children, homemaking etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 09:46 PM
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An attractive man is attractive regardless of his race. I still find handsome Asian men attractive even though they aren't my type, because they aren't exactly a different race. I'm just saying, that IN GENERAL, not much will change because they will still be, in general, less masculine than white or black guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 09:27 PM
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Does she have nothing to offer the guy now that she's 'had her fun?'
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 09:23 PM
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Asian men are shorter and are lacking in some other departments as well. That won't change as China grows in power. Neither will the stereotype of asian guys as 'nerds', until they stop actually being that in such a large number. It will change some things, but most of what makes asian guys less attractive are stereotypes within western society, and actual physical characteristics of Asian men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 09:21 PM
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This is pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 09:19 PM
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She was downvoted originally, I don't know which women are trying to rationalize it. Me personally, I used to have casual sex as a teen. w my last bf I was abstinent for a year with. I didn't decide to be abstinent cause I liked him a lot, I didn't sleep w him because I became more religious. So it depends a lot on the context...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 09:18 PM
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The girl posted that on BP women and r/relationships (very feminist place) and got downvoted to oblivion, yet you think she somehow speaks for all women? Wth?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 04:00 PM
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My family knows quite a lot of wealthy people, and I'm pretttty sure that a lot of the men do have mistresses. A lot of them are remarried to trophy wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 12:32 PM
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For a male it's up to many factors if he can get a girl above his SMV. Attractiveness is just one factor, with confidence, or wealth, or fame he can easily get a girl above his own SMV. For a girl her SMV is completely dependent on her attractiveness. But luckily there are plenty of guys who are attractive but bad at approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 07:58 PM
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I'm pretty sure this is just a fad... Will this be talked about a month from now? I kind of doubt it... But I suppose its a good thing while it lasts, in terms of meeting new people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 07:55 PM
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I actually agree with you. Going home drunk with a guy implies consent to some degree
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/16 06:41 PM
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Women fuck attractive men because they are attractive. Having attractive bfs also helps with reputation. Wow!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/16 02:10 PM
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You cant get good looking just from going into a gym... Also for a guy he has to be good looking AND reasonably charming. If he is its easy. My bf was sort of like that, but I had a HS bf who was incredibly handsome and popular. He slept with two of my friends and a few other girls and as far as I know he never even had to try.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/16 09:31 PM
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Strawmen and cherry picking,
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/16 10:05 AM
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I wonder if they actually believe that :P
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/16 07:52 AM
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OMG he's found out our secret. Women are actually all secretly lizards.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/16 07:16 AM
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Because the fact that you have little interaction with them is obviously making you depressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/16 07:14 AM
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More than vice versa, certainly. But we usually dont have to worry too much abt it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 05:47 PM
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The way he words it, it's like he's saying that he's so alpha that he didn't even need to go on dates and get to know her before fucking her. He's so alpha that she will fuck him just cause he asks her, even though she doesn't know him well, and that doesn't happen unless the guy is VERY good looking, or famous, or rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 05:46 PM
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They were also all quite wealthy and/or famous. Was Da Vinci a womanizer? I think quite the opposite actually, if you get my meaning.. In fact you probably just gave the worst example possible. Da Vinci was the most talented person who ever lived, probably. If the Terper 'biotruth' nonsense is true than women should have been very attracted to him because of his genes, but it appears he had no relationships. Of course, it's not out of the question for an intelligent person to also be very attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 09:36 AM
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What does it imply? That intelligence alone isn't attractive? That's obvious I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 07:18 AM
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The majority of guys I've been with? Very little to not at all. But then again that was high school
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 04:32 AM
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The obvious answer is because females went for more than looks - also fame, wealth and status.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 04:31 AM
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I don't get it. u/TrialsAndTribbles is obviously correct. Intelligent people are very often not 'Chads' as in they rarely had multiple partners. There are many examples even besides the obvious ones (died virgins) of Tesla, Newton and Nietzsche. I believe they generally had higher status, and that made them more attractive in past times.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 04:25 AM
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Yeah, thats why I said almost. For a guy who is naturally charming, it's rather straight forward I'm sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 09:41 PM
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Well, if he's charming, why not? I know a few guys for whom it does seem effortless. They are at parties talking to other girls, completely natural, and always end up going home w them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 09:40 PM
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Yeah, very true from my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 09:35 PM
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CDC: Females: 0-2: 33% 3-14: 56% 15+: 11% Lets say some lied. That still puts about 20-33% in the 0-2 range. Being attracted to a successful man doesn't make you a gold digger.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 09:31 PM
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Actually most of my friends had their boyfriends leave them, or they left them cause they cheated on or verbally and physically abused them. Girls don't think, HEY let me emotionally fuck w this person and then leave him a few months later :D We dont think like that genius
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 09:28 PM
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don't leave it as a phase and instead carry those bad habits with them forever. Not me though. I'm a special snowflake :) Trust me. My bf was one of those guys, and it seemed effortless for him. I wasn't that easy for him, but only because I'm pretty religious and conservative. But the modern liberal chicks? They behave pretty much like guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 06:54 AM
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Oh, I should have said a few HAVE HAD slut phases. It happened sometime in their past and it doesn't define them. For me for example in early HS I dated lots of guys, but for the past few years I've been with only one. So yeah, it doesn't necessarily say anything about a girl if she just had a phase where she was emotionally empty so she slept around or if she had a one night stand after her boyfriend dumped her or something. The biological imperative isn't merely to produce children, it's also …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 05:21 AM
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TRP teaches AWALT, which ignores the fact that most women in their youth are monogamous, and a very high percentage only have sex with 1-3 guys in their life. Hardly 'alpha fucks.' It also teaches that women are deceitfully and shamefully settling for 'beta bux' as they age, but what's actually happening is that women generally want men the same age as them, and at that age attraction has a lot to do with the success of the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 05:11 AM
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The large majority of women are serially monogamous. ALL my friends are. A few have slut phases that last a month or two but they get over it and then are monogamous with one boyfriend at a time. I actually agree that a woman who fucks a 1000 guys is cheapening herself. But I don't get outraged over it. If she's cheapening herself then she gets her just desserts. Also, I think a man who fucks a thousand girls is cheapening himself as well!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 12:30 AM
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From what I can tell from a quick skim of both topics, the replies to the male were generally supportive. If there wasn't the doubt between whether it was a miscarriage or an abortion, then it's possible there would be more anger directed towards his child murdering wife. But I agree that this alone does not explain the disparity between the replies.The MAIN difference is that in the first story, the commentators are addressing a man.. I can think of several reasons to explain this: r/Relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 12:28 AM
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Why does it cause outrage? If they are young and attractive, and they want to fuck, then why shouldn't they? And why does it make you angry? I personally am against it because I find it hedonistic, but at least I am consistent. You guys have no problem with young alphas having lots of sex, but have a problem with young women who do so. The young alpha will regret wasting his life, and the young woman will have to settle for beta bux once her looks fade. But that's the way the world works. For wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 11:52 PM
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I only know like two guys in RL who have never gotten laid. And one of them is religious
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 10:59 PM
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Women don't employ AF/BB strategy. For many it just happens. When they are young they don't want to commit, so they have sex based on attraction. Later, wealth and status becomes more attractive, and they also want commitment. But still, it's not like how you paint it.. It's not like girls when they are young are fucking like rabbits. Majority of women are in monogamous relationships even when they are young, it's just that these relationships dont last as long - since they are young
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 10:58 PM
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I agree a lot with this. I'm shallow myself, and I hate that. But no one should ever be mean to someone else for being unattractive, and that should not be accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 12:25 AM
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Every girl likes something different, but nearly all girls are most attracted to guys that are handsome, confident and aggressive. Now, whether they are in gangs or have criminal history doesn't say much about their physical attractiveness, it does say a lot about their attitude. These men are aggressive and confident. They are more likely to approach, more likely to be involved in aggressive, masculine hobbies like sports - and as a result are more likely to be fit. Hence they are more likely t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/16 10:43 PM
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Do I ask out people? No. I never have but if I liked someone enough, maybe. nd I want you to be convinced that in a lot of case, someone Who stop being Nice doesnt mean he is not Nice but he doesnt want to be Nice with you anymore for his own sake. I disagree with this. A kind person can't stop being kind just because the got what he wanted from you. If that's the case they were never kind in the first place, and their kindness was just a facade.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/16 02:20 AM
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Yes Yes Still in college! We don't have sororities. We have a residential college system that isn't very greek life at all. It's also not exclusive. No, but in HS yes. Yes Muscular guy yes. But not like, obsessed with going to the gym. He was naturally muscular. Yep NO! I wish Nope, never. Yeah. My current bf, sort of ex now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/16 02:08 AM
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ugh these replies... Not necessary to guess when you have statistics. Number of Lifetime Partners (25-44) Males: 0-2: 20% 3-14: 51% 15+: 29% Adjusting downwards towards 30, and since men exaggerate, I would say around 15-20% probably have had 15+ partners. By the time they are 45 about a quarter have had 15+ partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/16 02:02 AM
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Remember kids no woman ever likes shy guys, they only like extroverted men. Umm no. Introverts can be confident. My ex was probably an introvert, as he hated meeting new people and parties and stuff. But he was confident, athletic and intelligent. Introvert does not mean an awkward guy who sits at home playing video games. Of couuurse I won't like that kind of guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/16 08:29 PM
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Codependence, that's the word I was looking for. And yeah, you are right
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/16 08:19 PM
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Well, yes, I was, but I hated TRP before that :P Meh, I've been abused by several partners and I still maintain that morality varies from individual to individual and culture to culture you can't really make a statement like that. Go to a third world country and see how brutally women are treated by men there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/16 05:50 AM
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I understand if they are unhappy with me, but at the same time, I would have liked to keep them as friends. That experience then makes me wary of the next guy being nice to me, because I'm not sure if he wants to be my friend (which I'm always down for) or a romantic interest (which I usually am not down for.) Second, how can they like me when they hardly know me? Unless the niceguy is my friend, in which case I understand. But the examples I was talking about weren't my friends but more like...…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/16 05:47 AM
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I understand if they are unhappy with me, but at the same time, I would have liked to keep them as friends. That experience then makes me wary of the next guy being nice to me, because I'm not sure if he wants to be my friend (which I'm always down for) or a romantic interest (which I usually am not down for.) Second, how can they like me when they hardly know me? Unless the niceguy is my friend, in which case I understand. But the examples I was talking about weren't my friends but more like...…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/16 05:47 AM
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Clingy isn't the word I would use. Loyal, sure. Clingy seems to indicate that he's a man who is obsessed with you, and has few other options.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/16 05:27 AM
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Yes different meaning that women are less intelligent and less moral than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/16 05:00 AM
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Yeah, okay, it has to be someone who's fun, or someone who's committed. But why not both? They aren't mutually exclusive. Why do I have to settle for a clingy guy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/16 04:48 AM
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Clingy? Ugh, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/16 02:45 AM
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Be genuine. Don't try to be overly nice and bank on the fact that she likes you because you are pretending to be nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/16 01:26 AM
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Bah, we get a bit jaded, so sometimes some women will respond with aggression and mockery. Maybe it's not fair, maybe it is. I've had guys help me a lot and show me incredible kindness, only to end up asking me out. After I reject them they are never nice to me again, and it makes me realize that their whole niceguy act was a facade. Then when the next niceguy approached me I get a bit wary. But anyway, I'm never mean to a guy just because he's nice. But when you complain that you are being reje…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/16 01:04 AM
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Why does he assume that his problem is that he is 'too nice?' I've dated nice guys before. Maybe in High school I used to exclusively date assholes, for some reason, but that's rare afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 11:08 PM
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r/niceguys aren't guys who are opening their heart out to people who are mocking them in response. It's guys who are being nice as a sexual strategy and are being mocked for their lack of genuineness or subtlety.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 10:27 PM
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Then it's perfectly possible that 5% of men looked at the poor options available and decided on celibacy. I've talked to incel men telling me that they won't ever fuck an ugly girl and think they deserve better.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 10:23 PM
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It's not my definition. As I said, the way TRP describes hypergamy is that women date upwards in terms of overall value, which they emphasize means looks (people like Rollo Tomassi have told me this directly, and Roosh has said the same more or less.) TRP talks a lot about hypergamy, but rarely in a social status sense. In fact, they repeatedly claim that wealth and status don't matter much (perhaps because it's members don't have wealth and status.) I actually agree that women are more financia…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 05:52 PM
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I reference it here https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/4jnwn7/serious_post_debunking_8020_and_hypergamy_with/ The CDC link has what you are looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 03:45 PM
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Studies show a similar amount of female and male incels. male incels only slightly outnumber female incels. But unlike female incels, male incels feel that they are owed sex for some reason, so naturally they complain and bitch about it more. And no, I'm pretty sure ugly and obese women are rarely approached at bars and clubs. Sure, some men will date downwards, but some women will as well if the dude is charismatic or wealthy enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 02:39 PM
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There is only one God
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 12:45 PM
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I don't know tbh. People tell me it's almost impossible for a teenage boy to not do so. I wouldn't know. But I know that it's possible for a teenage girl to refrain. Masturbation leads to contentment of solitary sexual lives, and is also forbidden by God. It can also lead to addiction, particularly if you use porn to get off.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 02:41 AM
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I think it's fine for teenage boys. Idk. Not sure about girls though. I didn't masturbate. It's possible to refrain from it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 01:02 AM
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Humans should get in LTRs and marriages, and have sex with their partners rather than resorting to a foul act like masturbation
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 10:25 PM
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Naa, you worded it fine. I was just agreeing w you. From my personal experience, guys with high N counts are very likely to cheat. OTOH, its rare for attractive men to have low N counts. But that is the ideal man, naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/16 11:16 PM
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Well, you would find virgins at that age, but I doubt you'd want to have relationships w them...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/16 11:14 PM
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If he has a good reason for not having a high count, then that's good, even preferable. Example: if he's very religious, or if he prefers to have deep meaningful long term relationships and thus never reached a high N count.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/16 11:02 PM
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Do better then. I've been w so many guys who just care for their own pleasure
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/16 10:08 PM
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Yes, lack of ambition. Also, lack of ability to provide for our children.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/16 08:49 PM
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Ummm... Ever think maybe from your MALE perspective, a woman masturbating is subjectively sexy, but not objectively so? Constant masturbation conveys desperation, imo, for men and women. The reason i think a vibrator is less weird than a sex robot is that most women don't orgasm with their husbands/partners, so a vibrator helps. Meanwhile a sex robot for males is generally unnecessary, and is only required by people who have absolutely no one in their life and are surrendering to that fact by in…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/16 08:23 PM
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Nope. Never. Don't care if he's a 10/10 looks wise. If he has no career or business I'm not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/16 08:18 PM
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I'm not defending them. You didn't seem to be restricting your criticism to TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/16 06:17 PM
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Plenty of people are shy, awkward or ugly and can't get laid. These people may or may not 'suck.' It's ridiculous to claim that they all have shitty personalities and by saying that you only give ammunition to the truecel misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 08:12 PM
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It happens cause women date upwards. Oh wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/16 03:57 AM
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TRP's emphasis on sex above all else is unrealistic and overall harmful for men
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/16 06:25 AM
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That's a false analogy. Interacting with the opposite sex is natural and is something you should have learnt without needing a misogynistic cult to tell you anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 11:29 AM
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I don't understand how it's so hard that you would need to go online and read a few articles and watch some videos and be like 'oh, I'm gonna do this today!' Wtf...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 08:30 AM
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I want men to behave a certain way and women to behave a certain way, but I also want people to have the right to choose what they want to do. Geddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 08:27 AM
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Meh, keep dreaming. A full house of deluded fantasizing red pill men maybe. I mean, my daddy married a 25 yo and he was 51 then but then again, she was a gold digger. Look if you are going to chase shallow promiscuous girls (and there aren't that many) then you have to realize that they will first choose the attractive men around their age, then 10 years higher, then 10 years higher and so on. If you set unrealistic goals you are going to be unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 08:26 AM
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If you are old, you won't be interesting to hot young women. If you are unattractive, you won't be interesting to hot young women. Otherwise just find some interests and hobbies and find a girl who shares them. Befriend her, date her etc. Be a human, basically. It's not hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 09:04 PM
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I think we are fine the way we are tbh :D
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 09:01 PM
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I was being sarcastic. I listen to country. Most songs (male and female voiced) are about how they want to be together forever with their partner. Idk what world you live in :/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 09:00 PM
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Yep, pretty much. I want men to be men and women to have rights. What a crazy opinion right??
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 08:59 PM
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That's one person. It's not the norm. https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/4jnwn7/serious_post_debunking_8020_and_hypergamy_with/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 11:14 AM
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I want one man to be my wallet and another to be my dildo. Perfect
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 11:10 AM
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because most guys want to build something lasting. I'll watch all of that later tonight. But as for this quote... Come on. The men i see complaining about 'divorce rape' are the same men who also have their life goal to fuck as many women as possible. Something lasting? Yeah right.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 11:08 AM
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The guys we like? Not every woman likes the same type of guys. I can't stand guys who are crude, for example, but other girls like that. The only common thing is that guys we like are usually good looking and confident - of course!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 11:06 AM
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If another guy came along and showed interest in you who was noticeably "better", you would think about it. No I wouldn't. And if your boyfriend ever lost the things that attracted you to him, such as his wealth or his looks or whatever, you would think about it. No I wouldn't. Almost everyone loses their looks. If that's your view, okay. But don't tell me how I feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 07:09 AM
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It's all so ridiculous. Women fuck guys they like, and for most of us, if we like them enough we have relationships, and marriages, with them. The best way to get into a relationship is to be interesting and find someone who you get along with. All this AF/BB is just bitter rambling.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 07:06 AM
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Yes. I want to see more beards, more chivalry, more confidence. But what TRP advocates isn't masculinity, it's misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 05:41 AM
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It's not that it works, it's that it has a large misogynistic following, and is therefore significant enough for someone like me to be interested in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 05:40 AM
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TRP, and other places, made me depressed about 'the Wall' and also about how men could hate us so much. But don't let them put you down. Nothing they say is rooted in facts, it's just ranting out of bitterness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 05:39 AM
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You sound so bitter. Look, you are only going to fall in love and be in a relationship with someone you know well, and likely have been on many dates with. Now, why on earth would an attractive woman go on a date with an unattractive guy with no other qualities? Yes, life doesn't work that way. But it doesn't mean that just cause my bf is attractive that I chose him solely based on that. It doesn't mean that I can't get better. And it doesn't mean that I don't actually love him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 05:37 AM
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Umm, 10% of guys I guess? I mean I guess one quarter of guys have the ability to be Chads but half of them probably prefer being in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 07:26 AM
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Then you are presenting opinion as a fact based on personal experience. This is called anecdotal evidence and is another logical fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 09:15 PM
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You are deriving a conclusion (feminists hate men) from an assumption (feminism is about hating men) without backing the assumption with any proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 08:55 PM
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nice logical fallacy there
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 08:30 PM
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Oh I see. Agreed on that point!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 11:29 AM
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I'm sorry. I'm losing track of this conversation. What are you trying to say? All humans can be good or bad. So?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 08:43 AM
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Yes, that's what I'm saying. TRP largely views women as enemies, or as threats, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 08:02 AM
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Misandry exists, just like misogyny. Misogyny is far more common, but that's besides the point. Such a small percentage of feminists are misandrists that your point is completely ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 07:39 AM
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Second wave... is that when we got the rights to vote and not to be considered property of your husband, or the rights to work/not tolerate marital rape/pursue higher education? I didn't realize equality was war.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 06:36 AM
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Many of my friends don't like TOO much muscle. Rejected for that alone though? I dont think so. 9% body fat is usually awesome. I think around 4-6 it gets a little too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 09:05 PM
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Possibly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 12:12 PM
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Some people may like another person in spite of their problems. To tell them that, NO don't go for that person even though you like them (and therefore, they have qualities you like in a person) because they have problems is ridiculous. Everyone has problems. If you like someone you can overlook their bad traits. People who are looking at the red pill for dating solutions most definitely have problems, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 05:12 AM
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TRP advice: Step 1: Try looking for girls who have NO problems whatsoever. (hint, not this girl, she has problems.) Step 2: Realize that there are no girls with no problems. Step 3: MGTOW
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 01:46 PM
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Yes, you should only ever think about yourself. Amoral and all that jazz. Try looking for someone who has NO problems whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 01:46 PM
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So you don't care about researching things? You just like to claim things that aren't true because they suit what you want to hear?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 02:38 AM
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And? I don't think poor couples should have the wife stay at home. But if the husband has a good career then I think it's the best way the family functions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/16 07:35 PM
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When the kids are young it's great. As they get older they still require a mom to be with them for the hours while dad is working. Kids also get sick, they get hurt. You dont' want to be fighting your employer for off days to take care of your child. Life probably can get pretty mundane, but SAHMs can and should keep themselves busy in the community. That not only helps them not feel lonely but helps build the community.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/16 06:24 AM
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Society is changing, not declining. There are some negative changes imo, but I don't think that it's the fault of women as TRP claims. TRP's claims come from bitterness and anger, and nothing intelligent comes from either of those emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/16 06:22 AM
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So you admire a man for the money he can make and the lifestyle he can provide his wife and kids with? Of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/16 05:54 AM
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I don't think so. And I have had way more casual sex than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/16 05:53 AM
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"and if being promiscuous brings happiness to men - which it does -" Not really. Maybe at first. But studies of life satisfaction find little deviation between men of low n counts and high n counts. In fact, high n count men enjoy sex less.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 06:59 PM
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on tbp heres the study, i think http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/ad/ad362.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 06:21 PM
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I had a post a while ago where I found data that showed how many people below 30 were incels. I think it was 6% for males and 4% for females. Not sure how many of them were voluntarily celibate though. I have a few friends who are virgins because of religious reasons and are in early 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 07:18 AM
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On the contrary I think it is our intellectual prowess that allows us to enjoy sports like soccer and football. Animal instincts doesn't have much to do with it. Similarly whether we respect people or not isn't based on 'primal animal concepts' but something deeper and far more to do with societal conditioning and educated determining. The man with wealth has been successful - he should be respected. Putin has power over others, he's respected. A proper Priest has power over himself, he's respec…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/16 07:14 PM
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He's devoting a lot of time and effort to sleeping with a lot of women, something that in and of itself doesn't really help the world, doesn't help people, and largely doesn't even help yourself (people who are promiscuous aren't happier.) So why should he be respected? Maybe in high school he would be. In the real world there are other factors that are more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/16 10:20 AM
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Alright sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/16 07:26 PM
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No it was sarcasm!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/16 07:15 PM
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Once, perhaps. But not w my current SO
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/16 04:30 AM
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This was basically begging for me to post here... So I did.
/r/MGTOW19/05/16 04:09 AM
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Minor. I agreed with him too. But in his replies to me he seems to indicate he thinks its more than a minor disadvantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/16 07:41 AM
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According to OKcupid, asian women find white men only slightly more attractive than asian men. women of other races (latino, black and other) find men of their own race more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/16 07:15 AM
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Thought I would reply to you quickly before I'll inevitably get banned. honest and open, loving, treat her like a human, communication route, countless times How do you know that? You're assuming that this woman actually respects her husband, cares what he thinks, cares how he feels, and cares whether he's happy. And you are assuming that she isn't. From my personal experience if there are sexual or other problems in their relationship, then it's very likely she is experiencing problems (mental …
/r/askMRP16/05/16 09:50 PM
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AWALT means ALL women, genius. I'm not creating my own definition. If it is a acronym for something different, let me know. Anyway, this is a headache. Good luck whining about women for the rest of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 09:18 PM
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Heres an idea, if you don't actually mean ALL women, then call it MWALT then! Wow, amiright? Btw, it's not a normative statement. How is it a normative statement? :/
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 09:11 PM
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Try treating like a human and not your plaything. Might work well
/r/askMRP16/05/16 07:44 PM
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No they aren't. ALL WOMEN are like that means every single woman is like that. So just a few examples (in fact, just one) is enough to defeat the premise. And no, " So apparently because one woman somewhere was denied her child at childbirth and didn't properly develop her maternal bond or was a heavy drug addict unable to think of anything but another dose." Where did you get that from? Confirmation bias? In many cases neither of those things happened and the mother murdered her baby. Furthermo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 07:30 PM
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First, it's not a strawman, I was addressing your argument directly. Second, in this situation, anecdotal evidence is not logical fallacy, because your claim (AWALT) says that every single woman must be like that. So one example is enough to destroy your BS argument. Next, by definition, ALL means every member of a set without exception. If 90% of apples you bought were bad, to say ALL the apples you bought are bad would be incorrect. So I was not being pedantic, you were being ridiculous. Until…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 07:16 PM
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I'm uneducated? You have made the worst arguments possible. You don't know what logical fallacies are, you don't know how to debate and are now resorting to ad hominem cause you never made a single good point in this argument. Not every woman shares mothers instinct. Some mothers have killed their children, some torture them, some neglect them entirely. So once again, your retarded remark "mother instinct is something every female shares. Because it is a fucking instinct" is nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 07:07 PM
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I don't know, I haven't observed it of South Asians. Generally when I hear Indians complain, it's mostly cause they are chasing white girls, who aren't that interested in them either (unless they are like, more Persian than Dravidian yknow.) Yes, tall white man is generally the standard. I don't think it's that way because white men are objectively more attractive, I don't think that's possible. But white men and white women are more desirable because we come from the richest and most developed …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 06:40 AM
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It was on one of the posts here somewhere. I would have to dig through my posts to find it :/
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 05:43 AM
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Asian girls are the largest demographic in the world to marry outside their original ethnicity Is that actually true? What do you mean by Asian? Anyone from Asia or East Asian? Cause in general I've seen girls from India, Pakistan or Arabs mainly just dating (mostly marrying) their own. I will give you that I've seen many Asian and Korean girls with white guys though. However, I really think you should avoid thinking that you are not getting dates because of your race. I've seen far more asian c…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 03:23 AM
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Are you looking for a white girlfriend as well considering that you think being an asian makes you unattractive? (Hint it does to us, but it doesn't to asian girls.) Also socially awkward but still want a girl who is fun and quirky? Why don't you get over yourself and try to get to know one of these 'boring' girls showing an interest in you. I find that people always have more depth to them than others imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/16 08:04 PM
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No, I like gender roles, but only for myself. I don't think you can force anything on anyone, and you certainly can't put certain people in roles they aren't made for. If you enforce gender roles you will end up with a lot more Red Pill Women - women who are completely unsuited for being housewives.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/16 08:02 PM
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So why should girls throw away their standards and dignity and date you? I am not saying date someone atrociously ugly. But being socially awkward reduces your value in the dating market as a male, and thus you shouldn't be looking for a girl who is incredibly attractive. I mean... you could look for that girl, but don't complain when you are left alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/16 07:06 PM
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I refuse to date girls who make me hurl my lunch from my stomach. Stop whining then. No one has any sympathy for a beggar who thinks he's entitled to gold.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/16 06:08 AM
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I have a cousin with Aspergers. Beautiful personality, and he actually has a lot of friends because everyone loves how nice he is. Ofc, he's not so successful in the dating department, but he has found a girl who is a lot like him (lacks social skills and to be frank, not great looking, but they love each other so w/e.) Despite his problems, he always keeps a positive attitude. He is also quite religious. And as a result, he's a very happy person most of the time!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/16 05:07 AM
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Later. I'm feeling terrible today :/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/16 03:53 AM
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How would it not work? There are more men than women AND women routinely prefer to stay single and hold out for better options AND women sometimes "share" one very attractive man 80 20? This is untrue. See my posts here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/4j2c9r/is_the_cruise_ship_is_a_microchasm_of_female/d33n7mc
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/16 03:40 AM
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First of all, the premise is incorrect. The online dating world is not a reflection of the real world. But anyway. You are talking about this study: http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-looks-and-online-dating/ From this study we can conclude the following: We rate most men as below average. Why is that? One theory is that most women are JUST attracted to the top 20%. Another is that most women (such as myself) have specific types and only some men fall into that category and thus naturally mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/16 02:23 AM
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Dude. It's. Not. A. Strategy. I don't think Bill Gates ever wanted to become the richest person on the planet so he could have sex with a lot of women. There are different goals in life and different measurements of success.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/16 02:11 AM
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The behaviors of women and men don't change completely in 9 years. I swear... this 80/20 bullshit is just projection of insecurity. OMG the Alphas are fucking all the females! hold off on sex from most men (80%) until you finally encounter what you're looking for from that much smaller pool of men Are you serious? The only 'evidence' I need are what eyes show me and what I hear from other guys. Anecdotal evidence is a logical fallacy. You seeing it means that it CAN happen, but not that it's the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/16 12:42 AM
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I think you guys think of these things in completely different terms than someone like Bill Gates would. For Mr.Gates, I highly doubt that sexual success is the main thing on his mind 24/7. For him, I'm pretty sure his wealth, family success and legacy are his measures of success. Put another way, from a High School Boy's (aka Red Piller's) POV of life, Bill Gates is a 'beta', from a normal person's perspective Bill Gates is an extremely successful man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 11:51 PM
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The difference is that alphas don't spent hours a day trying to determine if they are alphas or 'high betas'
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 11:48 PM
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And that says what? You don't need to work in a field to be masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 11:32 PM
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What statistical data? If I'm seeing firsthand how women gravitate towards top-tier, masculine men while easily dismissing the majority of mediocre guys This is not 'data', this is anecdotal evidence, logical fallacy. How do you know you aren't being biased, only focusing on the behaviors of attractive women? And no shit, all women find top tier masculine men the most attractive. But not all of us get to have those men because there are an equal number of men and women. So we settle for men belo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 07:36 PM
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Exactly! I normally 100% support this, but I was thinking about my son having to take one of these classes and thought that it's almost as if they are holding him accountable before he's actually done anything wrong. I don't think moral people would commit rape, and I don't think you can convince immoral people not to. It's like having classes to tell people murder is wrong. No shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 07:31 PM
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Was that actually the alternative? Also not sure if the TC is even right? How many single women go on cruise ships anyway? Always thought it was a couples thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 07:27 PM
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True :/
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 07:24 PM
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Nothing? https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/29/01/b2/2901b23a079e29934fa7fd4b2c9747e2.jpg It's attractive, thats all. Well, to me anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 07:23 PM
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Yep!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 07:22 PM
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Masculine men project dominance and that's attractive to me. Feminine men just make me feel as if I'm with one of my girlfriends. They don't give a feeling of security, nor do they project confidence. I also am just more attracted to men who look more masculine - I'm a sucker for beards.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 07:14 AM
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Feminine men? No way. Clint Eastwood for me thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 07:06 AM
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"At least I can give you a good advice. If you are still young – go to a naval college and become an officer – then get a job on a cruise ship – you won’t have a problem with women anymore." Basically, screw your other goals and dreams. Screw actually being interested in the navy. Just do whatever it takes to be a human dildo.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 04:11 AM
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80/20 is complete nonsense and every single statistical analysis done of actual sexual behaviors shows this. Keep whining about how we only go for the rich, attractive alphas though. Also see anecdotal fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 04:07 AM
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BJ I''m not sure, but anal I had in the past often and never liked it, so I would prefer not to do it again. Has nothing to do with confidence or masculinity..
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 04:01 AM
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I had the same experience with anal and roll my eyes everytime I hear Terpers say how I should have anal with my bf as well since I used to have it before.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 03:59 AM
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Ehhhh are you serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 03:26 AM
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Ahahaha. I guess :P But I think it's fair for me to want male friends. But I can only go out w one person and that should be understandable to those guys if I already have someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 03:23 AM
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One thing I don't get is... in that situation why would you even want to dread game her? She's bored, not excited with you. You are bored, not excited with her. You turn your attention towards another girl and suddenly she's thinking, 'oh no I'm losing his attention he's gonna go for that other girl!' And that might work, but why would you even want to do that? Your relationship with that girl requires you to make her jealous in order to have a healthy sexual relationship? Just find someone else…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 08:13 AM
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Yeah, that does sound like nonsense. Dancing... has never attracted me whatsoever. I like your explanation. Makes more sense. Some women have trouble guaging man's attractiveness so just go with what other girls like but... why did the other girls like him in the first place? Or i could just say it's neuroplasticity. Idk, I need to read more about this :D
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 08:09 AM
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Men are not more loyal than women. Anyone who says that is kidding themselves. So much statistics PROVE otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 07:25 AM
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This guy is basically COMPLETELY average: http://static1.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/Here+we+have+an+average+looking+guy+his+eyebrows+don+t+_94c93488b231d890f07be89cc5975aac.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 07:24 AM
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Yeah, but 80/20 is not observed at all in any culture anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 07:11 AM
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"If women want attractive men, why aren't they approaching?" Cause attractive men will approach us! Get it? If I'm at a party and I see an attractive guy, I first want to see if he is interested in me. I'll look at him, if he's interested he'll come to me. I understand your problem, you are complaining why women don't approach. We don't cause we don't have to. If all attractive men stopped approaching us then we would approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 07:10 AM
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I suppose. I guess what I'm upset about is that these guys never really wanted to be my friends. They might just have been friends w me in order to get close enough to ask me out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 07:01 AM
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Oh noes! 50 points from Hufflepuff?! I suppose you are right. I just hate how some guys I am friends with end up asking me out, and I try my best to be as nice as possible so we can remain friends but it usually ends up failing. Like... I can only date one person, and besides I'm Christian so I want someone to marry, not just date.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 06:50 AM
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I disapprove of anyone who USES people for their own benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 06:47 AM
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I'm 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 07:40 PM
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If you have never been approached (even subtly) then it's unlikely that you are very attractive, sorry to say. With attractive men I've very clearly shown interest by going to introduce myself, making eye contact and talking to them at every oppurtunity. As I said, men make it the way it is by approaching. If all men stopped approaching us then I'm sure the culture would change. But it hasn't, cause they won't. You could always move to Israel or an Islamic country. I think most marriages there a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 07:40 PM
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Are you a virgin? Maybe. Late bloomer? Definitely. Confirms my theory. Many of my male friends are dating girls older than themselves. Some girls in their late 20s and all my male friends are early 20s. They aren't insecure about having never had sex with young women. That's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 07:33 PM
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Well, men approach and women select. A woman who can't attract men has to approach, I assume. And that must be hard. But if attractive men are approaching me why would I approach other attractive men? It's just the way things are. No need to get salty.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 07:31 PM
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Hah... I don't want 'orbiters', I want friends. I like having male friends, they are interested in topics that I am interested in and that my female friends are not interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 07:29 PM
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lol alright. Good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 07:26 PM
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"girls 18-22 love to fuck" Tells me you haven't had sex with girls 18-22 or late 20s. My male friends don't talk like this. I don't know whats with Terper obsession with young girls, but it's probably cause you are all late bloomers (or never bloomers.)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 07:25 PM
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The statistics show there are equal amount of female and male incels, actually. But i was saying that even if you consider the maximum margin of error (~4% in this study), it's still only twice as many, at MAX.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 07:16 PM
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Every time I hear the term solipsism being used incorrectly I cringe. But anyway, if we were on friendly terms prior to his asking me out, there is no reason we can't be afterwards. You aren't entitled to have sex with every girl you asked. Some may not find you attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 09:45 AM
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I don't know you, and I don't know what you are doing wrong, so I can't really give you any advice. Question though, would you sleep with an obese woman? An ugly woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 09:42 AM
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According to the CDC (2007) statistics, 96% of adult men and women have had sex at some point in their life. 96% for both. Now, I'm gonna guess some men lied there, but even then, the twice as much was an overestimate given the statistics. The statistics show that there is an even number of each.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 09:41 AM
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That comment on autism was completely unnecessary and mean-spirited. Just wanted to point that out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 07:22 AM
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It depends... I really disapprove of men who seek young women merely to show her off and to deal with his own insecurity. Granted, she is probably more attractive and that helps, but it's immature to neglect the fact that you are probably emotionally very incompatible. Given that, there are very few reasons I would approve of it. My daddy and my stepmom are 55 and 27 respectively. I'm pretty sure I know his reasons for marrying her, and they weren't great. And I know her reasons, and they weren'…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 07:19 AM
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"but fundamentally what we want is the stuff money buys." Like? But yeah, women are very attracted to fame and money. What's the evolutionary reason for it? And this behavior is seen way more in the east than the west, which shows the huge effect of culture on our desires. They still feel sexual attraction, right? That's probably pretty base. Why hook up with a woman at all? Why not cohabit with a man? There definitely is sexual attraction involved as well. But I would say it's primarily mental.…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 07:14 AM
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No surprises there, girls do like assholes. I dumped him, so I would say you are wrong about that. They liked him cause he became more confident and popular. All I got from that relationship is that many guys are only nice because it's in their best interest to be. When he got popular and all, he became an asshole like the rest of em. Simply ignoring someone is a normal behavior after rejection True. I mean he is like pointedly ignoring me even when I just greet him. And it's been months. But ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 06:55 AM
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Oh oh oh, btw, thanks for being so civil. This is like, the most chill convo I've had on the internet ever lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 06:01 AM
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I understand that my original post could be read as an attack on evolutionary psychology, but actually, I was merely doubting the viability of the applications of this person's research on Red Pill ideology. While academic EP is alright, I find that EP itself is usually applied in ways that support existing social structures (by reactionaries) and patriarchy, for political and ideological motivations. It's more likely to have an evolutionary explanation than be a product of "neuroplasticity." Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 06:00 AM
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I understand. And I think if TRP is teaching guys how to learn these basic social skills (to project value while in public to your partner) then that's very good. That'll help the relationship remain strong because the girl will understand that she has a man who other women desire. That makes her feel better. But TRP doesn't stop at that. It teaches men to make their partners excessively jealous, frustrated and insecure. I've heard MRP often talk about 'breaking' their wives, making them into an…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 05:49 AM
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Well it does follow given the premise (that men's desire for a woman is based mainly on her fertility - something Roosh wrote on the RoK about us page.) I haven't found anything in evopsych that explains it. 35 year old Adriana Lima tops 90% of girls may age (20) and nearly every man would pick her over an ugly 20 year old, even though the ugly 20 year old is much more fertile. Perhaps pairbonds have other benefits Cultural, financial, social benefits, yes? Well that's why I think evopsych is no…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 02:50 AM
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Well a while ago I was disproving the 80/20 bullshit. So I was sorting through quite a few figures. I found that for one, 15% of males and 17% of females between 20 and 29 said they had no sexual partners in the past year. Also found that 96% of all males and 97% of all females have had sex at some point in their lives. Even if adjusting for the fact that more males probably lied, it's unlikely that there are any more than twice as many male incels. In fact, given the statistics, it's probably l…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 02:43 AM
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No, but I did date a guy who was (apparently) very nice and was sort of a push over who eventually grew into an asshole since he started to get more attention from girls and became more confident. Also knew a guy who was very nice and I rejected and afterwards entirely ignored me, often in a very rude manner. I suppose he sort of fits the bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 01:38 AM
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Well, yes but this part: could not get laid if they tried is interesting. I think anyone can 'get laid' if they tried. Tried properly, that is. No one is so hideously ugly that NO ONE else on the planet would like to sleep with them. But many incels wallow up in self pity, and thus never actually properly try (see r/ForeverAlone) So the proper definition of incels for me is that they can't get laid based on their current attitude and appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 01:23 AM
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Several reasons, I think. For one, male involuntary celibacy can be the result of many reasons. Most likely social awkwardness or perhaps mental issues, in addition to the usual issues of obesity or being ugly. For girls, there are only a few reasons, and other than obesity, it's mostly out of their control. So you won't seem much self-help communities for it. Second, many of us are just inclined to wallow in misery when we face problems, rather than reacting to them in anger as men would. Third…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 01:19 AM
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Actually that's not true, statistically. It seems like there are half as many female incels as male incels. But that still leaves a lot of female incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 01:14 AM
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Youth implies fertility, for both men and women. From an evopsych perspective, a man desires a woman for one reason - reproductive instinct. Thus women post-menopause should not be found attractive by men. And similarly, younger men with higher libido levels would also be more attractive. This is not always true of course. A huge problem with EP is that it discounts the plasticity of the brain. Humans aren't governed purely on evolutionary instincts, we are intelligent creatures. We don't have s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 01:03 AM
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Considering this was posted here, and the academic is talking to a podcast that I assume is aligned to red pill ideology ('beat your genes'), I'm guessing he will be talking about applying evopsych to red pill ideology. Or at least applying EP to sexual strategy. And most of what I have heard of that is either nonsense, or obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 12:58 AM
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Hey, you actually made good points! :D Yknow, my bf actually does what you described - 'dread game' to quote Rollo - but I don't think it's conscious. Girls look at him and he is very friendly with them, and I can tell that it would be soo easy for him to leave me and get a better looking girlfriend. And, to be honest, I like knowing that. I think every girl likes that. But as I said, I don't think he 'dread games' me purposefully. I think if I knew it actually entered his mind while we were out…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 12:48 AM
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IMO, evolutionary Psychology overreaches it's actual applications when it comes to Red Pill ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 12:25 AM
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smiles awkwardly It's not social awkwardness. I want to see a man be confident enough to approach me, not vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 12:23 AM
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Laws, perhaps. Manipulation? I don't know. Some of them perhaps. But it's besides the point. I've had bfs who have punched me and hurt me in other ways. Is that an excuse for me to manipulate and damage men? Can I use that as an excuse to hate all men? Should I swear off all men and spend multiple hours a day bitching about how men ruined my teenage years? No, some people are bad. But if everyone who interacted with a bad person became like them, the world would become hell pretty fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 09:24 AM
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Uhh, doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 08:36 AM
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plays with hair
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 07:16 AM
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I distinguish Terper manipulation from the manipulation that may happen in common interaction in two main ways: a) The manipulation is a conscious act, not a subconscious act. Terpers read on manipulation tactics, decide they want to use them on their partners, and then execute it (presumably.) Normal people sometimes manipulate, but it's usually subconsciously. b) Terper manipulation is deceitful, and selfish. "Amoral." Flirting with other women in front of the girl, playing games with her, usi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 05:17 AM
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evolutionary psychologist for over 30 years I'm out
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 12:18 AM
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Go to church! It helps calm me down so yeah
/r/MGTOW09/05/16 06:41 PM
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"girly brained" Hahahaha :P
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/16 05:47 PM
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I doubt it's because you are too nice. It's more probable that (given my own experiences with men like this) that you are too passive and don't project much confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/16 07:03 AM
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Because men approach women. Most women are far more subtle in approaching men. Thus, there would be far less ham-fisted, clueless, entitled material to mock in a nicegirls subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/16 07:01 AM
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Idk, tricking, deceiving and playing games with my bf is not something I do. Not sure about others. And if they didn't learn it, good for them, they are better people for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 08:35 PM
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I never learnt them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 08:33 PM
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Really? You think it is common for men and women flirt with others in front of their partners in order to make them jealous?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 08:18 PM
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True, but that's the difference here. TRP teaches manipulation, and thus all instances of applying those manipulation tactics are conscious thought processes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 07:50 PM
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Yeah, alright, and that's the type of manipulation that may happen in interactions. However, what the Red Pill does is it teaches the men to manipulate women in certain ways. So they read it with the thought that 'okay, I am gonna do this to manipulate my wife/gf' and etc. That is significantly different than what you describe.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 07:48 PM
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Idk, I normally don't view interaction as manipulative. I don't approach interactions with the thought to manipulate someone into doing what I want. Even if I want something from someone, I don't ever actively think 'if I say this, then I'll get them to do what I want' or 'oh, if I flirt with the waiter then I'll make my bf jealous.' I don't know who thinks like that other than terpers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 06:07 PM
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I don't think so. They could have went through problems and dealt with them by being promiscuous. They may have been very young when they had high n counts and changed their life around.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 06:04 PM
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Now, in a normal circumstance I will treat 'beta' men completely normally. I'll judge them based on their personality and if I like them I will befriend them. However, if 'beta' men approach me with the intention of asking me out or flirting, then that's different. If I don't find them attractive, of course I will ignore them. I won't really make fun of them, though certain girls might. Alphas, on the the other hand, are practically treated like gods by women. We treat 'alphas' we are attracted …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 02:24 AM
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Okay, so you have no idea about her history. Why does she have a higher N count than other girls? Could be many reasons. Second, even if it wasn't a good reason, she could have changed. People can be judged based on their past behavior, but Imo they should be primarily judged based on their current personality, because people can change a lot. Take me as an example. In HS I moved a lot, and made new bfs everytime. I didn't really take sex that seriously. But now, I've had one partner in the last…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 05:38 AM
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It's almost like an abortion circlejerk. It's kind of revolting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 05:49 PM
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Westboro Baptist Church is a small sect of Christianity. Small to the point of irrelevancy. Atheists just bring it up to attack Christians. Rather, it's more fair to say that a fag hating idiot is the type of person Westboro Baptist Church creates and attracts. Christians in general are not like that. "In fact, I might argue that happier marriages and fulfilled and satisfied men might have a positive impact on society." It would, if the men didn't resort to dread and manipulation. If they didn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 04:04 AM
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Same with girls, btw. Girls are attracted to the hot guy, doesnt matter if he's good or bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 03:11 AM
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"Why wouldn't it be to make their relationships work and to make themselves and their partners more happy? That would seem to be the most obvious answer." Because they don't seem happy doing it. I wonder why they stick around. I wonder why they chose that lifestyle when it was so alien to them. TRP advocates amorality, and in many cases that is the same as immorality. It seems to reject love altogether, for one. I mean, I linked about a Terper who left his girlfriend because she revealed to him …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 03:09 AM
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Not very surprising. Youth is a greater part of the attraction for women than in men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 02:59 AM
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Well sir, that's different. You were already engaged in a conversation with the cashier. That's different from actually stopping me on the street randomly to tell me how beautiful I am. Hey if you actually do that without any other intention, good for you! But I haven't seen that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 02:16 AM
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lool Yeah but if she's not interested in you then that's fine. I mean, don't tell me you usually talk to girls on the streets just because.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 02:13 AM
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lol, so you have a sense of humor. Good :) But seriously I don't understand why you are so offended. They don't sound or, when one of them actually posts a pic, look like 10s to me. Thats my opinion. If you think they are so attractive then go date them, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 02:07 AM
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I think if they were misinterpreting the Bible and calling for the execution of homosexuals, then I think they should be arrested. Teaching hatred for homosexuals is also something that should be discouraged because it may lead to violent crime against them. I personally think homosexuals are sinners who deserve to be punished, but even they dont deserve to be hated. I don't understand what purpose hate speech serves. I think there is a fine line between hate speech and criticism, and sometimes …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 02:04 AM
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Umm we aren't bitter towards men, that's for sure. We don't need to aask other ladies for advice on how to attract men either
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 01:53 AM
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You sound kind of gay for them tbh...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 01:53 AM
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I'm pretty sure I replied to this. Weird af
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 01:26 AM
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"They're banging these guys because they are 10/10" They don't strike me as 10/10s. 10/10s don't go online to look up tips for how to get with girls. They don't go online to rant about women. They don't drift around misc sections of online forums lol Though I suppose I am semi active here, so its possible hot guys could be active there. I doubt it though. Hot guys aren't bitter. "late teens and early 20s men finding 16 year olds attractive something bordering on pedophillia?" That's fine. I just…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 01:05 AM
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Uhh are you kidding me? THOSE guys? Those guys who are trying to work out so they have a chance with bare minimums? Those guys who probably don't have bachelor degrees? THOSE guys? I want to fuck them? Yeah fuckin right lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 01:04 AM
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Expression that may lead to violence should be repressed. Ideas expressed by the pro Nazi sources lead to further antisemitism in 1930s Germany.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 09:01 PM
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I'm not part of the PC police. I think criticism is fine, hatred is not. As I said, your original point was good, but I'm not sure if it's correct. Do you think giving people voice to hate on muslims for the past 15 years would have made us less islamophobic now? I'm Republican, but the far, nationalistic right has gotten more control over the last few years. I think that's why Trump was nominated.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 07:22 PM
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That's an interesting point, but I disagree. Because first... Trump isn't racist. I don't think he is racist at all. His campaign has not been very anti-black. And in fact, I think it was nice that at one point, Carson was winning the republican race, and he's black! Trump isn't racist imo. He is xenophobic though (at least his supporters are) and he is very islamophobic. Islamophobia has been spread all throughout our culture since 9/11 and even the left haven't really gotten together to speak …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 06:47 PM
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I labeled them as late bloomers, not neckbeards. I also said they are of low intellect, as misogyny is correlated with low-intellect. And the forum's topics display that low level of education... "You became depressed when you realized different people on the internet have different views than you?" When those views are a) ridiculous, b) bordering on pedophilia and c) encouraging something illegal, then it's kind of concerning.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 06:32 PM
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No I mean his campaign wasn't serious enough. He wasn't active enough in the debates. He didn't campaign hard enough. I liked him as a person, but he didn't strike me as presidential. I didn't think he could win against Hilary
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 04:54 PM
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I thought he was alright. I didn't think he was taking it seriously enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 04:15 PM
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Someone who believes in Jesus Christ, and believes that serving Him and living the way He did is more important than materialism. Someone who appreciates Christian values and morals.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 02:02 PM
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Hilary is whatever she needs to be to win. I dont buy that she's religious. Cruz was I guess. Kasich definitely was. Biden would have been a Christian candidate had he run.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 01:12 PM
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lol, no. You do need to have tact, while still remaining rather genuine. Being nice is definitely a good way to open a conversation with a girl. I'm just pointing out that it's not platonic when someone approaches you on the streets and 'platonically' compliments you. And since I know it's not platonic, I am going to respond appropriately based on whether I find him attractive or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 08:15 AM
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Which cultures? I have lived in many places. I just don't think that they are random acts, most of the time. When a guy I'm walking past stops and tells me that I'm looking great, I appreciate it, but I know he's probably saying it as an opening to talk to me and get a date or something. That's what's happened most of the times. And that's fine, but if I don't find him attractive, then why would I give him the wrong idea? On the other hand, I've experienced genuine acts of platonic kindness, lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 08:13 AM
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I'll hold my nose and vote for him but I don't like him. I liked Kasich :( I think its the first time in a US election where there is no real Christian candidate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 07:37 AM
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Emily Chad Land. !!!! I am actually rolling on the floor laughing xD Who said I keep reading it? I read it once, now I stay away from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 07:36 AM
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I think most people who are PC and most non-PC people are extremists. It's frustrating. No, I am not going to use your preferred pronouns, because you shouldn't give a shit if I call you a she. But no, I don't think we should tolerate people being homophobic, sexist, islamophobic, antisemitic etc. Hate speech so often leads to actual acts of violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 07:25 AM
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Men often think they are being more subtle than they actually are. So when a male stranger comes up to me on the street and is 'platonically friendly' I know that's probably bullshit, because it's highly unlikely he would have approached me to be 'platonically friendly' if I was ugly or a male. So, if I don't find him attractive of course I am going to react negatively to his attempt to get w me. I won't shame him though. Creep shaming? I've never done it, nor have I ever seen it. Some girls are…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 07:20 AM
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I don't think the very religious are voting for Trump. At least not in the nominations. He's not really a Christian..
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 06:52 AM
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Ughh it is the WORST. I remember going on there as an 18 yo and becoming depressed when I read threads saying how women decline in looks 18 and onwards, and peak at 15/16. Word? Then I realized that they are all lame late bloomers. Not sure if it's worse than TRP, but it just seems like a section of one website for low intellect men to come together and whine about women. Red pill seems to be much bigger.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 06:48 AM
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and very few sane people will volunteer for that. I would. In addition, she showed a few other unrelated (or maybe not?) red flags, as well She grew to like and trust him. That's generally what happens when a normal person has a sexual relationship with someone. I suppose I just hate how immoral TRP is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 06:46 AM
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Then why are so many women shocked when they get older and the nice treatment stops? That's actually a good point! Hats off to you good sir. I suppose we like the nice treatment from attractive guys, even if we know the reason for it. But genuine niceness is still more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 06:31 AM
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Okay, first, the reasons only a tiny fraction of men (i think it was 40%? Not a tiny fraction) reproduced was because of a) polygamy and male promiscuity enabled men to exercise sexual independence but kept many women monogamous, b) male slaves (or low caste males) rarely reproduced, female slaves often did and c) females married for wealth since poor men couldnt afford to support children. This naturally removed the vast majority of men as potential mates. Most of these problems are gone now so…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 06:30 AM
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Jealous mostly of career women... They often mention how housewives are more depressed than career women and what they can do about it. They wouldn't be asking that if they weren't depressed. Now... the vibe I get from there is that they feel very.. unnatural in the whole housewife thing. They don't sound like girls raised for being traditional housewifes, but rather women trying to do a poor imitation of one. To what end? To spite feminists? Idk. But the vibe I get from there isn't very positiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 06:19 AM
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They share a bit with TRP (rape apologism, women as inferiors etc.) wouldn't say RPW is a part of the red pill. It's just a bunch of insecure and jealous women trying to be traditional and failing miserably at it. I'm conservative and from a very traditional family where the women don't work and the males are leaders of the families. But when I read RPW I feel like gagging. I meant it mostly rejects Christian values. Dalrock is an outlier (though I would say he also rejects Christian values.) I …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 10:18 PM
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The reasonable comments are generally blue pillers. Here is another one I linked, not PPD, but AskTRP: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/44nk48/terper_gets_in_a_relationship_finds_out_girl_is_a/ If it's those same folks that post on PPD, I don't see a point in arguing with em
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 10:12 PM
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Double standards hurt a lot of people. But you are right in that he prolly doesnt get much attention. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 10:10 PM
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All things being equal, you are probably not gonna know her N count anyway. My mom thinks I've had 3 partners, my friends know its more than that, my daddy thinks I'm a virgin. But the point is - it's far better to just judge based on character.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 10:08 PM
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I both, actually. Numbers are my thaang
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 10:06 PM
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Pretty sure they would, but they have no chance with Saudi girls
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 09:11 PM
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it depends on that woman's character. High partner count shows less capability of commitment in GENERAL, but not always. Example, I've had several boyfriends cause I moved around so much as a teenager and a few of them were abusive. I didn't sleep around
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 09:10 PM
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Meh, I would have made that argument, but I didn't want to hear the usual crap of keys and locks and biotruths.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 09:08 PM
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"The lower the n count the better. Ever buy a new car? I've switched vehicles because one had 35 miles for one that had 4. If I'm buying and I can afford to buy new, I buy new" Vehicles get old. Their performance declines. More sexual partners doesn't mean anything, especially if you remove the chances of STDs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 09:06 PM
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Okay, fine. But he's still a hypocrite. And he's cancer to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 09:05 PM
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Hard to argue w someone w no morals..
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 03:09 PM
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Women will fuck assholes in spite of their behavior, not because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 03:07 PM
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MGTOW are a hate group, but I think they are far less dangerous than TRP. They actively encourage no-communication with women, as opposed to TRP that encourages manipulation, abuse and at worst, rape. So it makes sense that MGTOW is bigger irl whereas TRP is bigger online. Most of them need to maintain anonymity
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 03:05 PM
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4? How did u determine that number?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 02:59 PM
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What's the difference? I'm actually wondering..? Do you mean that stuff is specific to the red pill subreddit and not red pill overall? But srsly.. rok and etc are just as bad
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 02:56 PM
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No, this is like saying that it's a bit rich for Genghis Khan to say that all non-virgins are spoiled, while he himself fucks 10,000 women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 01:09 PM
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Yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 12:59 PM
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Oh dear Lord, I have so many. TRP represents old patriarchy, but devoid of all the chivalry. It teaches double standards, dread, manipulation, women as inferiors, marriage is bad etc. I think all the theory bullshit is factually and/or logically incorrect (AF/BB, 80/20, AWALT, Hypergamy etc.) They largely are irreligious. It teaches immorality disguised as 'amorality.' It's full of rape apologists, PUAs, cheaters, wife beaters, misogynists and et cetera...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 06:38 AM
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"rich white trash who is trying to go against her mommy and daddy by fucking guys who are not good for her emotional health." Sounds like teenage me (minus the white trash tag.) But I still never went for a guy who was actually being mean to me. That's such a ridiculous concept. You guys must have no experience if you think that stuff works >.<
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 06:13 AM
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Do you even math? Say super-commenting and stats135 each had sex with 3 girls. If every other guy in the world also had sex with 3 girls, it's very unlikely that they would end up with virgins. You are a part of society, so your actions influence society.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 04:33 AM
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I'm suggesting that the type of abusive partner that women are going to stick around with to try and work things out is going to be someone they're highly sexually attracted to (for completely normal reasons). Well duh, but I'm not sure what your point there is. When you have power over someone, no shit, you can do whatever you want to them. I agree with you, and I think applies for men and women. But that doesn't mean the actual beating was attractive, just that he was sexually attractive enoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 04:30 AM
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Naa, he abused her and thought she would take it. But she was high value enough to not take his shit, and she left. Was a good lesson for me too. "asshole game" doesn't work with anyone. Maybe cocky game, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 04:22 AM
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Thats not how it works. You dont get to say that while you yourself aren't promising monogamy. Society doesnt work like that. If men were completely monogamous you would be forgiven for wanting virginity in a lady. But when you are trying to fuck everything that moves - it's a bit rich
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 04:14 AM
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Some of them do have a pretty shitty life. They paint themselves as victims and think men have everything while they have nothing, so they are wallowing up in self pity just like you Terpers are. Not to mention, they are killing their own children, so of course they have a shitty life. Many of them are shitty people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 04:04 AM
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I think he meant a thread in general. Could have been RPW. Or TwoXChromosomes. Doubt it was blue pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 03:56 AM
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I haven't always been abstinent. Started like a year ago
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 03:53 AM
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How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 02:18 AM
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woah, so any girl who isn't a virgin is damaged goods? Are you from Afghanistan?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 01:50 AM
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Yeah they are crazy. I got banned for saying I don't believe abortion should be allowed past the 14th week.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 12:48 AM
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recovered alcoholic or drug addict? I think that's quite harsh but understandable. I think the use of the term "damaged goods" is uncharitable at best and incredibly mean spirited at worse. My point exactly sir! The amount of women that say they were raped is greater than the number that are actually raped. According to one study two decades ago in a small conservative suburban town. Not according to most studies. I think it's important to raise awareness of how terrible rape is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 12:03 AM
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Probably because they were actually not nice and were just pretending to be. Being inauthentic is the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 11:41 PM
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You are a bad person if you refer to them as damaged goods, think they are lying, use 'survivor' in quotations as if it wasn't a big deal, think honor killings are a good idea and etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 11:40 PM
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And that makes this okay? A lot of women are human trash as well. Not surprising
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 11:39 PM
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You are nuts if you find none of those comments to be disturbing. Also, some were deleted. "Nope. No thanks. You at either full of shit, or broken as shit." "Only a hookup. As their rape claim Is likely false. On the off chance that it is real, they're far too damaged for a committed relationship." "This basically. Use her physically, but don't get emotionally involved at all"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 11:27 PM
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He was just tactless, I'm not turning him into a monster
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 11:00 PM
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A lot of the comments there
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 10:58 PM
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Yeah. Reminder: I linked that post to the blue pill, so it got brigaded. https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/416idv/a_raped_woman_is_damaged_goods_for_life_terper/ Unfortunately the Bot failed to take a snapshot, but originally most of the 'ew rape victims are disgusting' comments were upvoted. Then TBP downvoted them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 10:32 PM
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Well, that's good. Well, all you have to remember then is that in the end your success depends on a lot of factors. Niceness IS a positive trait for attraction, but it's usually not enough if you are unfit, overweight, awkward or bad looking. As for girls thinking you are only being nice for sex, blame it on the players. We are a lil' wary. When I was 14 I let myself be wooed by someone who I thought was a very nice person. He would always help me out and listen to my problems. After we had sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 10:29 PM
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I thanked him, that's the cookie. Should I have given him my number and given him the wrong impression? If he was shy he wouldn't have asked for my number. When you help someone and then immediately ask her for a favor, you give the impression that you expect a reward, a trade. It's very tactless
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 10:25 PM
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It doesn't reduce your chances, it increases them, provided you had a chance in the first place. Maybe if he had helped me several times, maybe if he had talked to me and gotten to know me the other times I had seen him, then - maybe - he woulda had a shot. But as it was, I didn't find him attractive, and one act of niceness that wasn't even genuine wasn't enough to get me to like him. Either way, there is a certain courting strategy, and helping a girl once and then asking her for her number so…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 10:19 PM
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Okay, but that''s only because he's unattractive either way. Okay, let's put it in numbers (men are good with numbers right?!) Lets say I, as a 7 (according to Rollo Tomassi) will only date a guy if he is a 6 outta 10. Now, that overweight jerk is a 2, but if he's REALLY nice, then he may be a 3. But he's still below the threshold. On the other hand, an average looking jerk may be a 5, but if he's a polite, well mannered and kind person, I might consider dating him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 10:13 PM
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Well, alright, but that's beside the point isn't it? Being cocky is usually attractive, but it's also usually not mean. Having been on the receiving end of abuse, I should let you know that I didn't, and most of us don't, come back because him beating me up turned me on. Most of us just want to try to make it work and lack the will to leave. I was also an insecure teenager and didn't think I could get any better, and thought people would call me a slut etc. So I put up with it, but I didn't like…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 10:10 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/416cvl/would_you_ever_date_someone_who_said_they_are_a/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 10:00 PM
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Well, I can see why, tbh. I initially enjoyed discussions here, but then I heard what these RPers had to say about rape victims, and I got sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 09:56 PM
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I have a lot. Being a conservative, I disagree a lot with feminists all the time, and TBP is very feminist. I am very pro life, that gets downvoted like hell (although it won't get you banned there, like it would on twoXchromosomes.) I think personal accountability and responsibility should be part of the discussion in rape culture. I believe in gender roles (but I don't think we should enforce them.)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 09:55 PM
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It's probably that they have more will to do it than women, yes. Anyway, there is definitely something wrong with the attitude among and towards men that always expects them to be strong. Any hint of weakness is perceived to be something very negative, not just from women, but mostly among men themselves. TRP reinforces this attitude. It doesn't help at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 09:48 PM
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Most women aren't looking for a one night stand at all. As for the rest of the first paragraph, typical subscriber to 'asshole game.' Not sure why you guys think it works. It doesn't. Yeah she was dating a Navy SEAL. She dumped him because he was abusive. So yes, being nice is pretty good
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 08:09 PM
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1 2 and 3
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 07:46 PM
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Male suicide rates have ALWAYS been much higher than female suicide rates. And actually, this has almost always been attributed to the fact that females seek less violent ways to commit suicide (pills), which are also less likely to work than a bullet to the head. The world is getting harder for men and women. But it is probably harder for men. TRP isn't a solution though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 07:43 PM
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Umm because some people are naturally nice and don't have to pretend? I'm not saying you should pretend to be nice, I'm just saying that the people who are actually nice have a better chance with us - all else being equal. I had a friend who was dating a Navy SEAL and she left him for a fat guy. Does that surprise you? Can you guess why?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 07:38 PM
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Being cocky isn't the opposite of nice, that's being mean. Like telling a girl to shut the f up and bullying her. It does create sexual attraction. It makes a girl like you, and in general most girls won't have sex with you unless they like you a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 07:17 PM
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You don't get it at all. I'm attracted to a Navy SEAL because they are hot (and they are serving the country, I love a patriot <3.) Their body, face, and confidence is at such a point that it doesn't really matter whether they are nice or not, most of us would fuck them anyway. But, that doesn't mean if they are kind then I wouldn't find them even more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 07:14 PM
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Both! Why is that hard to believe?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 07:01 PM
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it's because I want to be nice. I try to help people (men and women) when I can. Glad to hear it :) some women beloved I was nice to them to fuck them, almost nothing piss me off more (I am a direct guy) and then manage to complain when I changed my behavior. Were you being especially nice to them? Never pretend to be something you aren't, because that's what get's you sniffed out. Players always try to be nice to us so we can tell when someone is being inauthentic. Secondly... If you are nice t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 06:59 PM
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PRETENDING to be nice to every girl displays low value. If you aren't a nice person, and I don't think that you are, don't pretend.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 06:55 PM
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From what I've seen, 'shitlords' are more confident. It's not their being shitlords that attracts us. Maybe when you are being a douchebag you feel more natural? (No offense intended.)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 06:52 PM
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Having muscles alone won't get you nuthin either. A person's attractiveness value depends on many traits. Confidence, body, face, status, education, and yes - kindness! But individually each of those are not enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 06:50 PM
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More like, 'wow you are such a nice person, thanks for helpi- oh, of course, you just want to go on a date with me. Oh well.' What do you expect, that a girl fucks you cause you help her out once? Come on now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 06:46 PM
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I disagree completely. The amount of times I've been nice to someone , while not wanting anything from them... is uncountable. Maybe I'm unique, I doubt it though. I've helped my church feed the homeless, I've looked after orphan children. I didn't expect anything back, of course not. My bf is extremely nice too. My daddy was sick a couple weeks back and my bf drove three hours and missed a meeting to stay with me and give emotional support. He didn't expect anything back, we're abstinent. Maybe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 06:41 PM
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Genuine niceness alone IS an attractive quality REGARDLESS of who it is being nice to you. However, it may not be enough to make me consider dating someone. To use the example of the commenter above, if an overweight, unhygienic guy asked me out, and was a genuinely nice person, I would reject him. However, that doesn't mean that his niceness is not attractive, it's just not enough for me to get over his shortcomings.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 06:36 PM
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You are correct. I'm not saying that being genuinely nice is enough to make an unnattractive person attractive to me. No, but it does make someone who is within the threshold of guys I find dateable to be MORE attractive. Meaning, it's a desirable quality - and therefore an attractive quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 06:33 PM
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http://www.iep.utm.edu/solipsis/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 06:31 PM
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Well that guy didn't care that he didn't ever have a girlfriend. He was secure with who he was, he was proud of who he was. So when he talked to women, he was confident. So why do you think you get rejected?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 06:30 PM
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Good luck with that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 09:58 AM
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My bf and I talked about topics that we had mutual interest in looong before he took interest in me. And that's what I liked. He didn't approach me and then quickly try to escalate it into sex. He got to know who I was, and fell in love with that person, not just the face and body. Shitlords will attract horrible girls. Horrible people attract horrible people, and good people attract good people. This has nothing to do with women selecting a douchebag over a nice guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 09:58 AM
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"Stop thinking every nice guy want to fuck you" I never said that. In fact, my point was that if you are being nice for the sake of being nice, that's awesome, and very attractive. Many unattractive niceguys are just using the only tool at their disposal to seduce us - kindness. But most of us can see through that. So when that below average looking guy in my buildingopened the door for me and helped me with my groceries, I wasn't surprised at all that he asked me for my number at the end of it.…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 09:54 AM
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The worst thing is when a guy is being nice to you JUST because he wants something. We aren't idiots, we know when that happens, and it's infuriating. But being genuinely nice is extremely attractive. Get that into your heads. being genuinely nice is attractive. If I twist my ankle or something and my bf takes a lot of care of me, that's attractive. If I'm sick and he takes care of me all night, that's attractive. Getting caught isn't attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 08:25 AM
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As a child, I did what I assume most children do: explore. Everything is so cool at that age. I lived in a rural area so there was a LOT to explore with my brother. I also loved horse riding. I had like two friends I can remember, I was largely tutored until we moved to the city when I was in middle school. After that I was super shy and would spend my time reading teen novels (princess diaries, Harry Potter, Hunger games, and others) and watching movies and TV shows. In High School I made more …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 08:20 AM
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No. He needs to be comfortable with himself and his situation. You can fight feelings of insecurity without having to have a lot of sex. I once spent the night (I didn't sleep with him) at someone's house who I know is a virgin and is abstinent. He seemed completely comfortable with me being there and was completely relaxed in talking back to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 08:09 AM
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What are ECs?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 11:25 PM
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There are some pretty awful subs out there that haven't been banned yet. TRP is, alongside these subs, basically on the knifes edge.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 11:23 PM
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I don't think it was looking pretty. He had a hobby that is impressive, and helps him look impressive. But I don't think he ever did it for girls. Developing as a person is important... trust me. But yeah.. good luck
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 09:32 PM
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selective hearing, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 02:34 AM
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I think it's fantasy and has very little to do with where we are now and where we are going I think it would be more offensive, but only because there actually was/is a widespread idea that men are more enlightened and better leaders than women, and a movie like that might seem like it's reinforcing this outdated notion, whereas this mockumentary is just silly. I can't really see what the point may be. The trailer doesn't seem to promise any intriguing exploration of society and gender issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 12:21 AM
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Most lived in the same neighborhood as me and were friends of friends or something like that. Met my current bf in church.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 12:15 AM
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A few guys have asked me for unprotected sex, and I've ALWAYS told them to get an STD test first. I think you should always make sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 12:05 AM
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Some of my bfs friends are very red pill. Not really the type that are obsessed with hypergamy, biotruths and etc, but the type that are obsessed with how many girls they've slept with. Immature guys, basically. My bf is in a frat though, so it's no surprise there are some RP guys in his circle of friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 12:03 AM
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Well I suppose I sort of understand. You have to work for it, so it must be more satisfying when you finally get it. I don't really have to. My bf doesn't have to. And it got boring for us. And besides, for me, doing anything with him is better than sex with a random guy. All I would say is that you shouldn't let it consume you. You sound like you are a little too obsessed with it. Life has many other pleasures that are better and less self destructive than sex. Once you are older, your libido w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 12:00 AM
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Oh.. I've been abstinent for over a year now. My bf is religious and I recently have become so, so we agreed to be abstinent until marriage, which should be some time this year. How your desire for that person burns and aches like Prometheus holding the sky above his shoulders to save Mankind from being crushed? I like that description :) I wouldn't say I would ever use it for someone I'm just hooking up with, though. Do you actually feel like that? If so, I would guess that you are quite young,…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 09:20 PM
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Well, I'm not sleeping with him but that's besides the point. Well, maybe it isn't. If I gave myself away entirely to animalistic feelings I wouldn't consider my bf as a person. And lust doesn't last very long, love does. "What's wrong with red pillers wanting to sleep with as many hot girls as possible?" It's an immature desire that I expect from High School boys. "And you can connect with people while having casual sex with them." I very much doubt that. If you think that I'm not sure how much…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 07:22 PM
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Neither should. Homosexuals can't have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 07:16 PM
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Good values, handsome face, fit body, inteligent and has a good job Preferably plays some kind of sport. Should be able to hold a conversation with me on things I find interesting - philosophy, psychology, literature etc. Should be fun to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 08:29 AM
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Do you believe that homosexuality is genetic, or is it nurture, or is it a choice? I doubt that it's genetic. it probably isn't a choice either. Do you believe homosexuals should be allowed to get married? No, marriage has always been for reproduction or spiritual purposes (and before that, political.) If you love someone you can have a normal relationship with them. They want marriage for immature reasons. They want to be a part of something they aren't. I've found gay culture to be perverted, …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 08:27 AM
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He's a swimmer, that's why he has his level of fitness. Working out for animalistic desires like TRP says to do is kind of lame, I think. But you can do it :/ I just think a better way to be happy is to actually get a hobby and be an interesting person who actually wants to connect with people rather than treating them as holes for your penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 02:25 AM
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Have you ever had a lot of sexual partners? I did in HS, my bf did in college. We both got bored of that lifestyle. That's what happens to most people, they grow up, out of that horny HS boy phase. My bf is attractive, he's very fit (far more than most, he has athlete level body fat), and he's pretty well off. Yet, he's been in a relationship w me for 2 years now. I'm sure if he left me he could get laid the next day but he won't. You are clearly not happy. You've bought into a toxic ideology, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 01:18 AM
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No, if most guys could get laid without having to be in a relationship they wouldn't bother with relationships Not all guys are like you. "Sex, food, company and emotional support? so a maid with benefits?" Naa, love. It's pretty awesome. I pity the people who don't know what it is to be loved by someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 01:05 AM
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I mean, I think my average friend has a slut phase where she may have one, or two, or three, ONS and a few casual relationships, but twelve a year is pushing it, and 12 a year for several years is plain ridiculous. It doesn't even matter if the guys they are dating are matched in looks, for they're still paying for it in the form of attention, time, patience and ''love''. The guys who banged your female friends in college did it for free or in exchange of a couple of drinks. Here's something you…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 05:12 AM
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I've never seen one. I live in Texas though so that might have somethin to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 05:07 AM
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It seems like that woman has had a total sex change surgery. My main point here was that someone like... say, Kanye West, should not be able to go to my washroom, looking exactly like Kanye West, just cause he has had himself declared as a transgender.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 05:06 AM
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None of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 10:39 AM
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I'm sorry I didn't specify enough. Anyway, what I mean is that if someone is a biological man, but feels like he is a woman, he should still use the male washroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 10:13 AM
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We're separating them based on sex, which is the reasonable thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 08:54 AM
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I've never seen one, and if I did I would be horrified.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 07:59 AM
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No, I would not feel comfortable with it. You look like a woman? Go to the women's washroom. You look like a man? Go to the men's washroom. It's an easy concept to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 07:59 AM
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Hedonistic behavior is self destructive. Either way, the point is, your original comment is just plain wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 07:35 AM
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Some people actually have a sense of morality and dignity.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 06:45 AM
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Umm that's complete nonsense. I go to university, I have many friends who you would think are 7-9s. Most of them are in relationships. Most of them will go through a slut phase in college, but even then nearly all of them will sleep with less than 12 'alpha males' a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 06:43 AM
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Attraction is fine, saying they are the best they are ever gonna be and sharing pics of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 07:43 AM
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You seem to have had a lot of experience giving childbirth
/r/MGTOW24/03/16 02:25 AM
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Go for partners who are at your own level of attractiveness and experience. It's not rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 07:07 AM
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his put the fear of God in her The fear of God?! God has nothing to do with deception.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/16 08:32 PM
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Is it racist? I never noticed that. they generally stand up for black people, muslims and etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 03:49 AM
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Yeah yeah yeah. Did you know marriage, more than any other indicator (wealth, children, fitness etc.), leads to more happiness? This has been confirmed by many studies. God help them indeed
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 08:34 PM
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ala: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/4f/23/00/4f230013ca40b1ff7675ecf527379669.jpg or https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/f3/25/39/f32539b93bf5270f8c7e159e474166ac.jpg or if you dont like shorts https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/0b/d1/9a/0bd19ad2331549f46aa37f500c7cc5ad.jpg or https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/00/3f/10/003f10b3a5148dc4df3f6abaa9f905d4.jpg I mean thats my preference. Nice colors, fitted shirts and just a relaxed look.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 08:30 PM
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Casual can look really good. You just need to be able to pull off whatever you are wearing. You don't have to be well dressed all the time, in fact that looks odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 08:44 AM
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I think when you have that much success and money (like Bill Gates or Mark Zuckerberg) you don't have to have sex with a lot of women to help with your insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 04:25 AM
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lol these guys have no sense of priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 04:23 AM
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A) That's actually not true. Plenty of STEM dudes do party and date when they have time. B) They make anywhere between 2 to 10 times more money than you, are incredibly valuable to society and have a wife and kids. But yeah, God help them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 04:22 AM
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Again we are talking about misogyny here. I went to Turkey and saw almost no one in a burka, only abt half in headscarfs. In Dubai only the locals wore it, and even most of them didnt cover their face. The majority of arab women didn't wear it at all. I dont think you have much personal experience with this stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 08:46 PM
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Gloria isn't a feminist she's a misandrist... and a misogynist. She's old, toxic and irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 06:02 AM
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Hah.. I think some women become more jealous as they age, and thus hold unfairly negative opinions of young women. Did Gloria ever think maybe young women support Bernie because he's more legit than Hilary and is also pro-women? Her statement about men getting more power is certainly a 'RP truth.' I wouldn't say women become more radical or liberal though. She's just coming up w a reason to hate young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 05:54 AM
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Rollo Tomassi :/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 05:47 AM
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That seems to show a big difference between Bosnia and Turkey, Turkey and Indonesia, Indonesia and Pakistan... etc. They certainly are more traditional (a wife should obey her husband seems universal there.) But I wouldn't say that always translates to misogyny (hatred of women.)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 05:45 AM
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Yeah! Not died.. but my old priest retired and he has apparently been chaste from when he first said the vows at 20 something. I'm not sure if he's still alive... When we discussed it briefly he said he never had premarital sex and I don't think he was ever married so I guess he was a virgin, and I doubt he was bothered by that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 03:45 AM
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Red pillers are faaaar more misogynistic than most american muslims, who imo are just socially conservative but not inherently misogynistic. Not too sure about the muslims in Islamic countries. Can any of us really say? From my visits to Turkey or Dubai I didn't experience any sexism but who knows. It's way too broad of a group of people (1.5 billion) to make any generalizations about.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 03:39 AM
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Whooops. Didn't read the name of the TC :P You sure have some nice communist society going on here. the leaders exempt, everyone else falls into line and obeys the ridiculous rules. Irony.
/r/TheRedPill07/02/16 11:38 PM
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Didn't read the sidebar. Read the posting and commenting rules
/r/TheRedPill07/02/16 10:23 PM
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The first, of course
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 08:52 AM
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Well, no... He didn't say some women, he said 'women sleep with...' indicating that a significant amount of women do that, thus justifying the generalization.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 09:19 AM
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"So yes" Actually, so no, because nawalt.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 09:05 AM
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2... typical AFBB bullshit that's been disprove repeatedly :/
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 09:05 AM
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TRP is itself uncivilized. Is it a surprise that they are so focused on primitive society?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 09:03 AM
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My bf is my best friend. Bye
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 09:02 AM
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Extremely rare. Sexual energy will probably fade fast but I don't think love will. My grandpa and grandma are still together and love each other greatly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 05:11 AM
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Umm naa. I was seeing some of the 'pick up artists' on youtube, like Todd Valentine or Roosh. They were like.. 4 and 5 respectively. Apparently getting pretty good looking girls so meh. 'Sides, if an SMV3 guy connects w an SMV5 guy (have a lot in common) it's easily possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 10:20 PM
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I'd say the same thing about a woman with an SMV of 3. And I would agree. The 'too ugly' group is very small. SMV 3 is like, below average, not 'too ugly.' So.. a guy, who is perhaps slightly overweight and below average features, can surely be attracted to a woman who may be slightly below average attraction yes? The problem is precisely that these men overlook their female peers (and vice versa of course.) The 50/50 divide and the norm of serial monogamy makes it so that they will either be ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 07:52 PM
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Well then it's their problem. Can't really feel sorry for them SMV 3 guy should go for between SMV 1 and SMV 5 girl. If he's aiming higher and failing then he doesn't deserve pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 07:09 PM
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" because those guys are only interested in beautiful women" lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 09:23 AM
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Most ironic username ever?
/r/askTRP02/02/16 06:33 AM
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I feel pity. But... they just need to be more social, really. Also many low SMV men refuse to date low SMV women. I don't feel sorry for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 04:47 AM
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Nawalt Namalt Nangalt (not all nice guys are like that)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 04:46 AM
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lololol okay, I'm not that offended :P Have a nice day lonny
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 04:32 AM
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I've heard it a lil' too much. How often to women compare men to cars and objects? Not a lot...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 04:27 AM
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Way too many ridiculous analogies have been used here (comparing rape victims to a damaged car for example.) It's getting annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 04:04 AM
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Stop with the car analogies. Yes I know some women are beautiful and some aren't. I don't really even care about this anymore, I'm getting married later this year so I dont care whether men find me at my 'peak' or not. I think different men prefer different women at different times of their lives. Lets leave it at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 03:43 AM
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omg are you incapable of basic logic? If the vast majority of children in sexual slavery are girls, then the vast majority of pedophilic porn will also feature girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 03:18 AM
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I never said that they can't be pedophiles! Certainly there are! The average age for a male to be raped (outside of prison) is 4! Even though many of those raping those boys are men, some surely are females. And that is disgusting. Here is the statistic found by International Labour Organization, 98% of people in sexual slavery are females. Most of those are underage girls. So there you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 02:42 AM
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lol, you are the one hamstering here. You really think that there is a equal amount of women going on the dark web to see 13 year old boys getting raped as there are men who see that for boys? Really? Point me to the jailbait communities where women post pictures of naked 13 year old boys. Go ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 02:02 AM
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I have never met a guy with a 'harem' lol. That exists for very wealthy men (0.0001%) and in the dreams of Terpers. Pregnancy scare naturally restricted female sexuality. As, of course, did religion. Birth control destroys the former, and religion is dying, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 01:59 AM
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Mehh. I used to get really depressed about this stuff. I read the BB misc thread mentioned earlier when I was turning 20 last year, and I was actually depressed that I was getting older and ugly. But, honestly I think I've gotten better looking, if anything (excuse my lack of modesty.) So it was all bullshit then, and what you said earlier was too. But anything, the 'peaking at teens' thing we won't agree on. I find it weird and silly, but whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 01:57 AM
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Yeah, but polyandry is also almost as common (females w multiple sexual partners.) Hence why I said promiscuity is common. You are actually correct about the second point. Monogamy too, is based on primitive traits. The argument could be made that an effective human society must be monogamous due to our inherent (and primitive) traits of jealousy, possessiveness and reproductive systems. The difference between monogamy and polygamy is merely this - one is viable for a cultured and progressive ci…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 01:52 AM
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You may be right about the reporting, but if it was true that there was a similar number of female pedophiles, there would be jailbait communities posting pictures of little boys. That is not observed in any major capacity. Meanwhile, there are thousands of videos on 'the darkweb' of young GIRLS (95% at least I'm guessing) below 16 having sex. These videos are almost exclusively directed towards men. Female pedophiles are just far more rare. Facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 01:45 AM
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Yeah but not aaaaalll the way back. Sure, in hunter gatherer societies, perhaps that was the norm. But once we moved onto agriculture and settled, monogamy took over and over time has become the norm. Polygyny isn't observed in the west, polygamy (promiscuity) is. Polygyny is forever done because it hinders progress by leaving over 50% of the males without a mate. Promiscuity is rising because of birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 01:40 AM
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I said the post before last that ALL men are certainly NOT like that. Nearly all my guy friends are not like that. Don't think of me as someone who is trying to demonize men. I love men. The closest 4 people in the world to me are men. However there are are far more males with pedophilic interest than there are females that are like that. This is just a fact. Nearly all evidence points in that direction. My criticism is specifically directed to those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 01:11 AM
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Certainly. But in Italy the thinking was that a 19 year old shouldn't be arrested for fucking a 16 year old. Obviously. But that doesnt mean that people won't find it creepy to see a 30 year old w a 16 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 12:50 AM
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Umm, I'm Italian and it's weird there too. it's LEGAL but it's weird. So yeah idk what you are talking about. Ephebophilia is a precursor to hebephilia and pedophilia.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 12:36 AM
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Civilization is certainly not built on primitive traits. Many primitive traits were discarded because they hindered progress. Polygyny is one of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 12:19 AM
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There certainly is something wrong with it when you are attracted to them primarily because of how young they are. A 30 year old man attracted to a 15 year old girl is weird, and he aint gonna stop there if society lets him get away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 12:16 AM
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At this point all I can say is what the fuck is wrong with you. Oh, and, I can tell you haven't spent a lot of time with early 20s women. Or teens. Sad, but stop dreaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 12:06 AM
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Come on... you don't see entire reddit subs with well over 100,000 female subscribers posting pictures of 12-16 year old boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 09:00 PM
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Well, in another comment you claimed most BB misc guys were 16, and that's why they were claiming girls peaked then. Buuuut, seems like many Terpers think that too. Are they 16 too? (its possible)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 08:04 PM
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Sort of criticizing your statement. This thread shows that plenty of men are obsessed with HS girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 07:57 PM
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Good for you. If you enjoy a petite body with gracile features thats fine. But most women have a petite body naturally, and graceful features stay well into their 20s. What do teens have that early 20s women don't? They are teens, and thats pretty much it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 07:47 PM
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Must suck being a late bloomer
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 07:35 PM
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What I'm getting from this thread is: Terpers > Body building misc
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 07:24 PM
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All men? Certainly not. Most of my guy friends are not obsessed with jailbait. In fact, they aren't even obsessed w the wall and will approach women over 30. But many guys on the internet certainly are rather.. pedophilic. I think they are mostly late bloomers who are obsessed with underage girls. And I haven't observed this of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 07:12 PM
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My bf and father don't watch porn. What's predatory and sociopathic is to desire sex with underage girls because you think their skin is better, when in reality you just like how young they are. That's messed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 07:01 PM
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So here you go, half of the red pill folks over here are trying to argue why 16 is the peak age for 'women.'
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 06:48 PM
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I for one believe you haven't seen either and thus cant tell the difference. How bout you come w me to my college and we'll play a game. Spot the freshman! Or spot the senior! It'll never work, cause there is hardly any difference. Especially in their bodies (you can sometimes tell w the face and the way they dress, but thats it.)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 09:36 AM
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I understand that. Violating may have been too strong of a word. As for the other thing, my point stands. If plenty of mid 20 women are passing off as teens, there isn't much difference in their bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 09:21 AM
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.> It's a fantasy of having sex w barely legal girls. It's not about their bodies, it's about the fact that they are BARELY LEGAL. The amount of hamstering is unbelievable here! Look, you have this fantasy, I have no problem w it. You can watch all the 18yo porn (or younger) you like. You can even go to Thailand or somewhere and pay some 15 yo girl to have sex with you. But don't pretend all these fantasies are because those little girls "have better skin."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 09:19 AM
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The wall exists. It doesn't always happen at 30. Who denies that? All we say is that post wall women are still women, and are likely to be far better relationship partners for a 35+ yo man than a 20 yo. But it's not like Terpers are mature enough to understand that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 09:11 AM
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Nawalt. The End.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 09:09 AM
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Sure it would. When a guy watches porn he sees himself as the male in the porn video right? So he imagines himself violating a young girl, that's the reason teen porn videos are so popular. The bodies are not important, or there would be a greater attempt to make most teen videos actually feature teens (most actually are above 20, according to some study.) It is both predatory and sociopathic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 09:06 AM
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And yeah, there is a difference between the skin and body of an 20 year old and a 30 year old, sure. But between 16 and 20? Not so much, and the former is a young girl and she's not legal. So stay the fuck away. Easy to understand
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 08:18 AM
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Can you please stop comparing women to cars?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 08:17 AM
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Fuck, I think you are right. My 20 year old skin is starting to visibly sag. sadface.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 08:01 AM
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ROFL there is a difference in their skin! Methinks you've never known a girl well, whether she was 15, 18 or 22. But yknow what, you are actually kind of right. Several girls in their teens have acne.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 07:57 AM
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I hope that's it. It was downright disturbing to read that. But yknow, there are loads of pedophiles on the net. Every article or video I've ever seen about our 'peak age' has a lot of pedophiles saying how beautiful 14 year olds are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 06:51 AM
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There isn't any difference in their bodies and a 22 year old's body. They like them because they are young. Stop hamstering
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 06:29 AM
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Sure it doesn't. That's why men all flock to view teen girl porn videos, when in fact nearly all of the women in those 'teen' porn videos are over 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 06:19 AM
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I don't see how 18 year olds are the ideal age. As I said before, it's mostly about the psychological aspect of it (of dominating someone so young) not the physical. The only difference between me now and me 5 years ago (15) is that I have a less babyish face and a slightly better body. There are a few mature looking 15 year olds, but if you go to a high school and a college, there is a significant difference between how the girls look. Not to mention, there is also a significant difference in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 06:18 AM
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I was talking about RPW in general, not just you. "6 Confessions of a Bad Wife" was the thread I was talking about. I found it amusing because the linked article was satire, and the RPW commenting were clueless that it was in fact, satire.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 05:50 AM
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There certainly is when they consider those sexually maturing females to be 'at their peak' mostly because they are just innocent and vulnerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 05:46 AM
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i'm not really a feminist either. But I'm not gonna join a blog and consistently talk about how worthless I am as a wife or whatever. It was quite amusing to see you all post in agreement about the '6 bad habits of a wife' thread, even though the linked article was obviously satire >.>
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 05:27 AM
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I've never been on 4chan. I'm an internet noob you could say. I don't think that most men are actually more attracted to 15 year olds. I think even for those folks over at bb if you put a picture of an average 15 year old girl next to an average 21 year old woman, most would prefer the 21 year old. I think it's the idea of having sex with someone so pure and innocent that attracts them, not the actual body (which is less developed) or the face (which is quite babyish.) So yes, it is disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 05:25 AM
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20-29 year old guys looking at pics of 15 year old young girls is still kind of concerning. BB misc may be the only thing I've stumbled upon that's worse than TRP (and actually, it's way wayyy worse.)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 04:41 AM
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That's not disgusting at all :) But naa, the guys at bb were very clearly in their 20s. And liked 15/16 year old girls. Kind of revolting.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 04:40 AM
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More damaged teen girls. Creeps hanging around outside high schools... Not a pretty sight. It is safe to say men are attracted to even younger girls. I remember on body building dot com, most of the guys seemed to think 'women' 'peak' between 15 and 18. Which is rather disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 03:55 AM
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I'm just saying that form of poly (where both partners have multiple partners) would be unacceptable to terpers. Fortunately, they are able to hamster away the double standards
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 02:02 AM
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Switzerland has a long history and tradition of the militia service. Surprisingly enough, they are able to merge old traditions and some forms of chivalry with modern ideas of women's rights. Not sure how they do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 02:00 AM
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I see. Well of course I can't tell exactly what was up there, since I don't know you or your gf, but it does seem like she was trying to make you jealous of that guy to gauge how much you liked her. Sort of like 'dread.' Otherwise, she seemed to have loved you if she took care of you that much, and if thats the case, then all I can say is that she may have actually thought that you were emotionally abusive, and that there may be some truth in it. But that's really all I can say, given how much I…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 11:04 PM
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A beta nerd getting his shit together and learning PUA is what TRP is all about right. That's it's main 'pitch' that it can teach you the strategies to be a pick up artist. I've observed that many Terpers are virgins or divorcees or just had a hard break up. Therefore, it attracts people who have low opinions of women and long term relationships. So you guys have a focus on 'harems' of 'plates' rather than poly households. You do have the subgroups which focus on marriage and LTR like Married Re…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 09:24 PM
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People never like to take the blame. Usually when stuff doesn't work out between couples it's at least partially the fault of both partners. Perhaps one more than the other.. but yeah, you should honestly examine whether you may have been emotionally abusive. The other thing is.. you may just have dated a sociopath. It can happen, it happened to me when I was 15. But I never generalized all men to be like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 09:05 PM
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Because it's unrealistic and highly unstable. It's not part of our culture so it's unlikely either woman will agree to it, and certainly neither will be happy in the long term. maybe you would see more of these discussions in Islamic, Mormon or African red pill xD
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 09:01 PM
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RP is incorrect in all cases because NAWALT. Frankly, if you were following RP tactics on your gf then there is a chance that she did perceive you to be emotionally abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 08:28 PM
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Is that what happened to you? Anyway.. I don't think many women do that. You'd have to be a total sociopath
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 07:56 PM
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Rise of hip hop? I think. Country is still very love song-y
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 11:05 AM
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Sign of an increasingly fearful and hateful society. Their hate has been repressed for too long. Trump offers them a chance to express it without fear of repercussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 11:03 AM
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Meh... Yknow it's kind of weird that I have this reaction to what I read on RPW. I mean, I was raised in a very religious household where gender roles were taught and I want my marriage to be traditional. Yet, I find RPW odd. It seems like the women there are trying very hard to be something they aren't. I am currently researching Terpers. But yeah, after that I may move onto RPW.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 08:06 AM
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Honestly, I haven't read too much. I would try to read more posts but I start puking every time. Can't help it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 06:29 AM
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Just for now https://np.reddit.com/r/RedPillWomen/comments/43efu3/on_chad/ But I'll link you more later.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 06:28 AM
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Well, it took me a few months to get over my ex, but I hate being alone as well so yknow. I still think you are being negative though. 'hops.' Words like that seem to indicate you think that she is just enjoying herself 'hopping' from one to the other. Usually it all involves a lot of damage and heartbreak. See I agree to a certain extent with what you are saying. The concept of AFBB isn't important though, it's what you guys believe it implies thats important. TRP teaches that women 'optimize' …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 06:11 AM
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2 years is a lot in a relationship. LTR is a lot about making compromises, but over 2 years you may find that you are not in fact compatible. For example I am LTR oriented, but one of my bfs cheated and another hit me. These things are not things I can live with. And the other thing you are assuming is that we are omniscient. Not true ofc. Not all guys who are going to cheat or beat you are the same. 'Alphas' can have 'Beta' characteristics and vice versa. It takes a while to get to know anyone.…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 12:49 AM
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That's how you lot act. Have some self respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 12:10 AM
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Idk, I've always found it rather disgusting. Maybe cause I grew up very religious and I generally had the idea that oral and anal sex are wrong. But yeah, if my husband really wants one then I'll do it for him, but I'll still find it kinda disgusting. I know it's not as weird as I think it is, but yeah, it's just been hammered into me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 07:37 PM
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I'd like to have a traditional marriage. And I know several BPers who are SAHMs. But if you mean being insecure, believing that you are inferior to males, that you should do whatever they say etc. (like a RPW) then definitely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 07:31 PM
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Woah, did you actually use real research for a PPD post. Props to you. A+
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 07:28 PM
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Umm no.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 07:24 PM
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Monogamy (one partner at a time) is actually quite common. Everyone married or in an LTR is at least trying to be monogamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 06:41 PM
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Look, preventing more illegals coming over = good. Deporting all of them, many hard workers, many born here = not good. How are you even going to find them, they are illegals they aren't registered. North Korea is crazy. What you are going to block people coming from Turkey? It's a NATO ally. India? It has hundreds of millions of muslims and is a massive economic power. What about muslims from Canada, Europe etc. It's completely impossible. It just sounds good to a racist, but it isn't logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 06:39 PM
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Actually many immigrant groups (Indians, Chinese, Pakistanis, Iranians off the top of my head) make more than white Americans. So do Jews. Besides, people in college, and most professors etc. support democrats. Or, at least, if they are republican they are Libertarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 06:35 PM
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Has something of a bad boy/fuck boy outlook on relationships. Enjoys casual dating, has had many hookups, attitude defaults to cocky, and doesn't emote or express much vulnerability. Deal breaker. Don't like the cocky attitude nor the lack of ability to commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 07:15 AM
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Okay well then they deserve to stay. They were born here they stay here. I think it falls under the 14th amendment, read it. As does banning immigrants on the basis of religion. If you tear apart the constitution we have nothing. No 2nd amendment either. 99% of muslims have made no problems in America. In the state I live, they are underrepresented in crimes, drugs and all that stuff. And HOW are you going to stop them? Say there is an arab tourist named Abraham coming to American soil. Abraham …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 06:45 AM
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Btw, I started w supporting Trump.. This is gonna be the first time I vote so at first I was like, definitely Trump. Cause where I live there is a lot of drugs and crime due to the cartel and illegals. But then, he went from that to supporting deportation teams, including deporting infants born on American soil, who were born and raised here. He also supported banning all muslims from America, and that is racist, and stupid, and unconstitutional. Besides, a terrorist will just say he isn't a mus…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 06:25 AM
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Really? What we need is to stop caring about political correctness? Trump just gives us freedom to hate. Something that the low income and low education people are desperate for. They want to voice their hatred of the people who they think are at fault. Muslims, Mexicans etc. But yeah, this is all based purely on emotions. And fyi, someone like Rand Paul is also in favor of stricter immigration control and no immigrants from Syria. But of course no one in their right mind is going to support 'us…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 06:21 AM
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Eugenics was based on UNNATURAL and artificial planning to develop superior GENES. Monogamy has become the norm through NATURAL progression to have an efficient and stable society.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 06:17 AM
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Trump's supporters are largely low education, low income people. These people can't think deep about any of these problems. How do we 'crush ISIS?' What is ISIS? How do we stop illegal immigration? What exactly is causing all our economic problems? It's one thing to say oh I'm gonna build a wall, I'm gonna ban all muslims, I'm gonna kick ISIS's butt, I'm gonna fix our economy; it's another thing to show an understanding and provide real solutions. Trump supporters don't know the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 04:45 AM
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This part: Doesn't have many strong passions/hobbies, or if he does, they include things like videogames, books, table top or card games, roleplaying, anime, etc is the deal breaker. I'm not an extravert so he doesn't have to party. But if we have no common ground at all then that's just not gonna work.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 04:36 AM
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We are intelligent enough to develop a society based on what works, what is efficient. Polygyny leaves half, if not more, men without a partner - which leads to crime, a reduced birthrate and lots of other problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 04:34 AM
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Most animals are in fact polygamous, not polygynous. Lions are one of the few exceptions Nice try though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 04:32 AM
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I think both subs have their fair share of bitter and angry people. Usually these people would turn to religion to find the right path, but now they have online communities which foster their bitterness and hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 04:31 AM
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I sometimes feel like that too. But I think that radfems are not as common on the TBP as misognysts are on TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 03:23 AM
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RPW focus their hatred inwards. TRP focus it outwards (on women.) But both are very bitter and insecure. That just doesn't manifest in anger on RPW. That said, if a BPer ever comes there to burst their little bubble, they'll jump on him/her like a bunch of harpies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 05:50 PM
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I don't use Tinder. I was just guessing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 05:44 PM
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Uhh your welcome I suppose. I'm trying to understand TRP guys, even though I still think it's largely a hate group.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 04:53 PM
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Well, girls on Tinder have more to pick from as there are more guys on Tinder. Supply and demand you know. And since it is Tinder, everyone is quite shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 04:43 PM
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Just lift. No, but seriously Tinder is a platform all based on looks. Any girl under a 5 gets ignored and any guy under a 6-7 gets ignored. In RL looks are only a part of it, and you can get by w/o them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 10:51 AM
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Yeah so here is the thread I made: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/41nioz/sympathy_for_the_terper_a_lot_of_women_are_bitches/ It was similarly downvoted to hell. Anyway, I gotta say in your case, most of the women there were strictly talking about Terpers, but they also adamantly defended the fellow BPer. The last poster however, was talking about all men who can't get women as being bad men, which is an utterly despicable thing to say. Seriously... Ugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 10:08 AM
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K you know what.. u are kind of right. And I do agree with ur pov in that thread. I actually made a similar post a while back. I'll link it tomorrow. B yeah you do have a point...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 09:59 AM
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Yeah, sure. Link it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 08:51 AM
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often when bluepillers criticize terpers, they mention that not all men are like that, and some if not most men are fucking awesome. Just look at the way TBP treats nice men who are sexualy unattractive: disdain, contempt and outright hate and dehumanization. This is complete rubbish. Unattractive men are hated on far more on TRP. We only make fun of 'nice guys,' guys who act nice just so they can sleep w you, but who in the long run don't want a relationship or friendship. And of course we make…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 08:43 AM
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TBP are not misandrists. We assert equality, not female superiority. We dislike Terpers, not men. This is easily observed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 08:32 AM
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TBP thinks nothing of the sort. Hamsters hamster.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 08:27 AM
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The curious thing is that most women seem to deny RP truths; the RP explanation for this is that RP truths are inconvenient to women, so women rationalize them away, i.e. the hamster. yep, it can''t be that Rollo is wrong, we must be lying/hamstering. That has to be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 07:16 AM
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Sure it does. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 07:11 AM
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MRP is literally all about emotionally manipulating your wife to maximize your own sexual satisfaction. Very rarely do they ever support compromising or care about the woman's perspective. And that's MRP, TRP is usually much worse. But whatever you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 10:03 PM
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Society impacts you, you are a part of society. Hedonism is self-destructive, this is easily observed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 09:51 PM
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You can research all the topics you listed above individually, in a far more academic and accurate way, and most likely it won't be drenched in misogyny and bitterness. 'sides, did you really need TRP to tell you those things you listed? Most of it is common sense. I could have told you that and I'm not a terper edit: and some things are just downright not true, i've been around the manosphere and I've never observed: recognizing and compromising sexual needs with significant others being warm a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 09:46 PM
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Roosh too radical a Manospherian Naa, Roosh represents the manosphere quite well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 09:39 PM
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TRP offers a comprehensive perspective of the female psyche. A completely flawed perspective, because it is based on bitterness and angst towards the other sex for having not given them enough attention. You are hardly going to reach real conclusions with that mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 09:35 PM
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Oh come on, we all know that''s not true. It's pretty disgusting that you fantasize about that though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 09:04 PM
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Don't mix fantasy and reality. It's dangerous
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 12:25 PM
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Well, alright. that could actually be true. There are after all a lot of STEM guys who's actual goal is not success in their field, but money so that they can get women that they normally can't have. Which is... very sad. Anyway, the vibe I get from STEM guys (the ones who won't overlap with TRP) is that they are usually more interested in whatever they are studying than they are in being involved in the dating scene. Well, you have a point. But TRP does often engage in your run of the mill miso…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 11:25 AM
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Just look how negatively you view women... 'she's upgrading all the time.' Really? Well, I would say that my current bf is better than all my previous one's combined, but that's only because he's a better person. He isn't more wealthy or more attractive. I mean, I'll be frank, I've had 4 partners since I was 16. One was a guy who I used to hang out with when I was really depressed and naturally got close to him, and then a few weeks after he left me. I actually learnt my lesson from that, but a …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 11:17 AM
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"actually, those guys who are on a trajectory to end up with a good job etc. (or are on their way there) are overrepresented there" Hahaha. No, just no. Sorry, but guys in STEM fields in good universities don't waste their time posting misogynistic nonsense on reddit, or chasing girls. I see these guys every day in uni. Nice try though. I know you HAVE to claim the smart, wealthy people as 'red pill' or your alpha theory goes down the drain, but I'm reasonably sure the vast majority of Terpers e…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 10:57 AM
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Meh. From what I know of those guys, they end up with good jobs, a stable family, and a good amount of money. That screams success to a person like me, and they should be happy with that. But a lot of those guys probably didn't care about that much, and a lot of these late 20 betas are probably upset that they couldn't spend their youth fucking a lot of women. So yeah, that advice probably does upset some of them. It is transparent advice in that regard. If your goal is to have sex with lots of …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 10:41 AM
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you sound so bitter. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 08:10 AM
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How so? If she has had... 5 partners. And she''s 26, then on average she''s probably had 1 partner every 2 years. So she's been trying to have LTRs with these guys. That's how most girls are, fyi.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 08:09 AM
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Nope, they could have fucked betas too. And for all you know it was not their intention to just fuck the 'alpha' and walk away. Yeah, I had sex with one of those guys in high school. I thought he was a good person, he manipulated and tricked me. So basically AFBB is right to some degree. But a) women are not following it to be devilish hedonistic tricksters, many of us are used and manipulated. Secondly, I fail to see how the beta who the woman is commiting too is a loser in this story.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 08:08 AM
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So why did you point out the divorce and infidelity statistics of couples who get married early? 'Its foolish to use absolutes to predict a future you know nothing of.'
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 03:18 AM
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'she can use for stability and support.' See using language like that artificially paints the woman as being self serving and manipulative, when in fact most of them probably just love someone enough to want to settle down w him. Not saying stability and support dont play a role, but even women with careers marry. Most married men do get sex, far more frequently and consistently than they would otherwise. And of course i'll be having sex w my husband what kind of question is that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 01:28 AM
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Logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 01:23 AM
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lol funny. Anyway, the anus was never meant for penetration anyway. Most women find it very uncomfortable. What if she likes to see you be anally penetrated with dildos? Would you make that happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 01:06 AM
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I'm Catholic. I won't get divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 01:02 AM
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Yeah, it's the wording and implications of it that trouble me. I mean, you could just say that many young women (20-late 20s) want to have fun, and most mature women (late 20s onwards) want to settle down. Much like most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 01:01 AM
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meh. I suppose it's 'transparent' and good advice for an amoral dark triad woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 09:10 PM
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You view these things so negatively, and assume too much. No, she didn't necessarily hop into bed with him. Unless she was a slut. Yeah, a few of my friends have had a 'slutty phase' for a few months where they would fuck a few guys, but in general almost about 80% of them are usually in relationships for at least a few months. So no, we don't spend our 20s hopping from one bed to another, that's what people who aren't in the dating scene think. She marries the 'beta' because she found a guy she…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 08:56 PM
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Umm no See, she probably tried to get into a relationship with the 'alpha' but since he was commitment-phobic he left her. The guy looking for commitment is less likely to leave her, so she's more likely married to such a guy. It's common sense. What is not correct is that she married him for his money, or that he is a 'beta' because he prefers commitment to fucking every other woman. 'Betas' seem to be more inclined towards wealth, status and success (ie, actual alpha) so they get married becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 08:48 PM
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Well he would point out and mock all of my faults. Sometimes in front of our friends. He would often just disappear w his friends and not see me or call me for days. When we were living together for a brief time he would sometimes come back really late while I would be waiting for him (he was probably cheating on me, but I have no evidence.) And just the random asshole behavior like me spending hours making a dish for him and then he wouldn't even try it cause 'he already ate' or 'wants to eat f…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 08:32 PM
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Umm no, in the past AFBB was not possible because women could usually not have sex before marriage. All women do NOT want to follow AFBB, I am 20 and getting married this year. I still have plenty of years of youth left to fuck around, but naa, I'm going to get married instead. The vast majority of women in their 20s are in LTRs, trying to develop them into the point where they can get married with their partner. Most women nowadays have several partners, so why is it surprising at least one of …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 08:27 PM
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Well it COULD be read as advice to get to know all sorts of guys and then make the decision to settle down, cause then you know which one is good for commitment. But I don't think that's what she meant. I mean: my advice to women is date all of them: the bad boys, the cool boys, the commitment-phobic boys, the crazy boys. She says date all of them, but then only lists the 'alphas.' The second thing she says is "OVER TIME nothing is sexier." So yeah, by the late 20s the bad and cool boys will be …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 08:22 PM
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The advice is encouraging AFBB. But pretending that quote is evidence that all women follow AFBB is logical fallacy. But then again, awalt amiright?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 08:09 PM
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No, that was in addition to his verbal abuse. Constantly mocking me, he was an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 08:01 PM
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1 year Me He was abusive, used to flirt and talk to other girls and generally just treated me as if I were worthless. I blame myself for not breaking up sooner Could have been a pathetic woman who tolerated that shit, but I'm not. Nope. The sex was the only good part of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 10:46 AM
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Total cancer. I feel kinda bad for them, because I know they are bitter young men for whom life is rather unfair. But I can't sympathize with them when they react to challenges in life by engaging in hatred and self-victimization Also the right wing politics and lack of morality of TRP also makes me rather sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 10:43 AM
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I'm sure couples can find something that is pleasurable for both and uncomfortable for neither. How is that hard to understand? But nooo, Terpers are like, 'NO, unless you force her to have anal sex you aren't an alpha.'
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 07:28 AM
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Hold frame, be alpha, and she will do everything with you. And if she still wont (she probably wont) then dump that bitch and find someone more insecure so you can dominate her and ruin her life like a true alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 12:17 AM
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And I've said this several times, but not all women are so pathetic as to do everything that their man wants them to. If a woman is not submissive, it doesn't matter how dominant or 'alpha' a man is, she won't do something excessively uncomfortable just to please him. I wouldn't have anal sex willingly because it's against my religion, and I wouldn't do it even with Leonardo Di Caprio.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 08:08 AM
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I agree. 87? How long did she even take to know each of those people? 3 days? A week? That's not nearly enough to know if someone is compatible. By the time you are 87 you are just messing around while using the convenient excuse that you are trying to find mr/ms right.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 07:54 AM
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My bf and I will have sex which we both will enjoy. I've tried anal in the past and didn't like it (and I consider it to be sodomy), so if he suggests anal and I politely but firmly say no, and he agrees, that means he's not an alpha? Come on, not all alphas have to be assholes who force you to do things you don't want to do. As for cheating I think you are looking at this all through the lens of a really pathetic woman. A female 'beta' if you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 07:50 AM
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"and he is the holy grail for women everywhere" Yeah, I've always wanted my man to cheat on me and pester me for anal sex. God my bf is such a beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 05:48 AM
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Yes, it certainly does. That's the definition of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 12:08 AM
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It's likely that there is some emotional connection that has been lost if the wife does not want to fuck you. Talking to her about it is the best way to get to the root of the problem. That is obvious, but Terpers seem to believe that lifting and reading some trp books is the best way.. smh.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/16 07:49 PM
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I don't buy it either, and the false promises will just lead to long-term disappointment. You shouldn't have such shallow goals. That said, I know many guys and gals who have that lifestyle up until their late 20s early 30s, and I live in a conservative state.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/16 11:03 AM
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"and some of them even think getting laid is overrated and men should invest in their "purpose" in life." Everyone has a different purpose in life. If yours is to be a college boy forever then I'm sure there is a way to do so for at least a few years after college. Eventually reality will catch up though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/16 06:59 AM
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Do a masters, that should allow you to stay in college and live your fantasy of having sex with 18-22 year olds for at least 3 more years. And then PHD for 4 more years. But then again, if that's your goal in life then I doubt you'll be able to do a masters or PHD.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/16 06:57 AM
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"Do you think a Christian husband who isn't getting any sex (or getting very little sex) from his wife should just suck it up and live with that?" I think you should treat her as the human that she is and seek to find out what is wrong with you or your wife that she doesn't want to have sex with you. And usually the solution is not to cause dread, or dominate and control her to giving sex to you. That can really.. destroy a woman, and usually she only sticks around due to children but ends up ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/16 02:45 AM
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It gets a bad rep because it's blatant propaganda, like Breitbart or Huffpost. Both partisan left/right news sources. Honestly I don't think it really matters in Canada right? I think that over there people elect the party MP not the candidate. I lived there for a year so I got the gist of how thigns work there. So as long as there are smart people in the liberal party it doesnt really matter if Justin is a genius or not. He seems to have a good heart though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/16 02:23 AM
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1 in 36 (more, but whatever) if you only take into account reported rapes. Many rapes are not reported. Yeah, no stats, but my point stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/16 02:20 AM
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Rebel media isn't very fair is it. We'll see in a few years whether he's a good prime minister for Canada. But I like his policies.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/16 01:30 AM
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Yeah, but they dressed how they wanted and men adjusted. That's why 'provocative' in the Middle East means showing your ankles, whereas provocative here has a completely different meaning. Men need to change, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/16 01:14 AM
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Yep, it's a radical expression of a feminist belief, a belief that makes total sense: that the dress a woman wears is not an invitation for men to rape her. A common argument is 'well, she shouldn't have been wearing a miniskirt, if she was wearing ___ she wouldn't have been raped.' Which may be true, but men are gonna rape based on the modesty standard. You can keep going more and more conservative in terms of dress all the way to a burqa, but rape will still exist. In some Islamic countries it…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 08:21 PM
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Women and men are associating feminism more and more with radical feminism, and thus are not claiming to be feminists as much as they previously would have. That sort of explains the trend (assuming it's true.) That doesn't mean most women and men don't stand for common feminist ideals. Feminism has just developed a bad rep. PS: Justin Trudeau is awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 08:04 PM
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Yep. Goddamn women thinking they can go out wearing a miniskirt and not get raped? How stupid of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 07:42 PM
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Morality certainly isn't a deterrent for the rapist. 20 years in prison is. If proof of rape was more difficult then certainly rape would be more common.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 07:40 PM
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They are weak because they aren't based on statistics. 90,000 rapes were reported last year, and logically the real number or rape can be twice or even thrice that. So around 200,000. Most estimates are even higher (RAINN and etc.) Anyway, point is that you have a pretty high chance of being raped in your lifetime, and probably 1 in 10 women will/have been raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 07:21 PM
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Wow, how relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 06:42 AM
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Aren't you guys the one's telling women we need to be more cautious or we are gonna get raped? Anyway, AWALT is a generalization of all women on weak arguments. 'Schrodingers Rapist' is a precaution on the basis of the common occurrence of rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 06:42 AM
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It would bother me. I'd wonder what I did wrong as a mother to produce a terper.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 08:55 AM
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Okay, I didn't expect you to agree. But those are my problems with it. But to address two of your points: Even the traditionalists among terpers are hedonists and are borderline insane. I read a few of the articles at Dalrock and other Church manosphere sites and wow... Even the traditionalists are largely in favor of polygamy, sometimes in favor of adultery, and unanimously in favor of flirting with other women to encourage dread in your wife. Secondly, basing your life and relationships on dom…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 08:47 AM
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Thanks I guess. I think blue pillers too, have become mean spirited by default when they see terpers behaving so disgustingly and generalizing all women. There are many things I dislike about TRP... How they channel all the bitterness in men into hatred for women. How they generalize all women as being the same due to some bad experiences. How they glorify hedonistic lifestyles ('spinning plates' etc.) How they are ageist and often bigoted and racist. How they are against women's rights. The Mal…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 08:50 PM
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Neither polygyny and polyandry are normal. The reason the entire world has adopted monogamy is because it works and leads to a more stable society.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 06:21 PM
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Marriage is about duty and love. I'm not dodging the question. I think both matter equally. According to Pope JPII, you need to reach a point of harmony where you are having regular, meaningful sex. That is what I'd want. Yeah if he wants sex and I'm not in the mood, I'll have 'duty sex' with him, but I think that I would enjoy it solely because he's enjoying it. As for the last question, I believe in complementarianism. My husband will be the leader in our marriage, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 06:16 PM
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He has pretty easy access to sex. He's quite popular with girls and he's still in college (for another 4 months.)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 06:09 PM
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I see. In any case, I wasn't being rude to you guys there. I AM surprised you tolerate men who call women plates and stuff, but whatever. I posted on both because I wanted to know what it was about. My mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 06:08 PM
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I would actually get to like to know more about RPW and what makes them think that way. Unlike other BP women I don't think that you lot are men. But I think that why guys join TRP is due to bitterness towards women, and I think that's the same reason for the existence of RPW. unfortunately your community banned me so :( . (I think it was because I insulted a member who was insulting some woman who had divorced her husband and was 'post-wall.') Anyway, can you tell me why you are 'red pill?' It …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 07:23 AM
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I suppose I was (good looking, not popular) and I was rarely single. But I fucking hated my high school years with a passion. I would trade them with almost anyone elses experiences. My parents always fought, until they had a divorce, I went to 3 different high schools, and lived in 2 different cities, had two very abusive boyfriends and had a period where I ran away from home to live with one of those abusive bfs because my mom's boyfriend was a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 04:35 AM
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Hmm, I suppose. I guess a lot of the women here are so angry at what terpers say they never really can empathize with any of them. Which is fair, there are a lot of misogynists on TRP, but I'm guessing some of them are former nice guys who are lonely and bitter and think TRP can change their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 03:55 AM
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Yeah, that's how marriages always end after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 03:50 AM
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That's fine. And hey, you know if it turns out that I'm wrong, I'll admit it. Course I probably won't still be on reddit then but whatever :P In the mean time.. Personally I've seen the bad effects of this whole casual sex culture and I honestly think abstinence before marriage is logically (taking religion out of the equation) the best way. But we'll see. And thank you very much :)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 12:54 AM
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Look, I really do appreciate your concern, but you are making a lot of assumptions and conclusions based on cultural brainwashing and whatever. Every relationship is built on compromise. I doubt we both have the same sex drive. It's rare that two partners ever have the EXACT same sex drive. But whether mine is lower or higher I will compromise and make it work. 'sides, our plans are set in stone. What am I gonna say now, 'hey, just to reassure myself, I'd like to have sex w you again.' And then …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 12:12 AM
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Course, some couples of every culture and religion will get divorced/separated. But I don't think the likelihood of divorce is increased if the couple is less experienced prior to marriage. Certainly it doesnt increase if the couple are religious, Catholics have the lowest rate of divorce in the US. Anyway, I won't get divorced for any reason short of adultery or abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 11:39 PM
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Yep. Thing is, A lot of guys ARE clueless, shy, awkward etc. and I feel sorry for them that they are so lonely. I'd like for someone to help them, but trp doesn't help them, it channels their bitterness into hatred against women. And of course it also attracts the common misogynist. What really confuses me are red pill women. They are utterly ridiculous people. Thanks for your kind words. Very encouraging :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 11:26 PM
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If he's able to wait until marriage as well then I'd say we both have similar sex drives no? Whether or not that's a low or high drive doesn't really matter. As long as we're compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 11:20 PM
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That's actually a fair point but.. I'm reasonably sure we are sexually compatible. Besides, it's the way God intended relationships to be like so, it has to be the right way. That's what I believe anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 11:18 PM
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Thank you :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 11:15 PM
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I'd be wary of those women, if I were you. But then again, you're too blinded by their youth and beauty and your own egotism to wonder why on earth a hot 20 year old is dating a middle class 40 year old rather than a hot young college athlete. And that's my honest opinion. I'm not biased because I am not at all close to 'the wall.'
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 11:14 PM
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I don't think RPW are men. They are messed up though. Surprisingly enough, I have told of my relationship to RPW. I was on a Christian marriage blog a few months back that increasingly started getting a red pill women and antifeminist audience. Surprisingly, despite being Christian they were also angry at my relationship because they thought I was controlling my boyfriend by 'using sex as a weapon' to get him into marrying me. I don't know how they reached that conclusion, but that's basically h…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 11:09 PM
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He asked a question :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 11:07 PM
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Some protestant churches certainly do teach things completely against scripture and tradition. The Catholic Church isn't like that. Though Terpers don't seem to like the Popes that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 09:05 PM
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Yes they do! The Catechism is not remotely sexist. Just read some of the things Pope JPII had to say and write about women. 'Love and Responsibility' is one of the best books about love and marriage out there. the only way we aren't equal is that the church has no priestesses. But I dont find a problem w that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 09:03 PM
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It generally dictates a lot of things about you. Of course not everything, but there are a lot of similarities within generations. I am assuming a lot (based on likelihood.) But I did say PROBABLY immature, not necessarily so. Certainly age gap does mean less commonalities in MOST cases. A 20 year old has far more in common with a fellow college student than a guy who graduated when Clinton was president. And again, an age gap is sex driven (for the man) in MOST cases. What does an average 20 ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 07:11 PM
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We're Catholic. I've noticed any terper I've revealed this to has reacted very negatively. They obviously don't have much faith in love or God. Besides, stats show these relationships are the most stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 06:42 PM
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That's usually not how it works, but whatever you want to think I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 06:40 PM
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I don't believe in divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 06:20 PM
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Generation = ~20-25 years. Maybe more now but yeah. Assuming that those things are true, then yes, he is immature. If they aren't (one poster mentioned children that he's never had as a reason to marry young), then he perhaps isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 06:19 PM
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Because we both think sex is for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 06:10 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 06:09 PM
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Age (alongside gender and culture) significantly dictates commonalities. Notice how different millennials are from the generation before them. Well, this man LIKELY cares more about sheer physical attraction, not compatibility, maturity, sexual satisfaction etc. Ageism.. lol. Are you red pill? Cause if you are that's just so fucking ironic since you guys are the most ageist assholes alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 06:08 PM
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It's only like.. 4 months.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 06:03 PM
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Engaged, abstinent until marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 05:53 PM
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I don't think so. I'm not always troubled by 'power imbalances', it depends on the situation. I for example would like a traditional marriage, my husband will be the hoh. But there is a difference between that, and wielding power, manipulation and control to dominate your partner and reduce her self confidence, as MRP recommends. That's highly disturbing, and I doubt many people have actual success with it in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 05:52 PM
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Haha.. you know the funny thing, my dad said the same thing (almost verbatim) when I brought up the age difference between my stepmom and him (she was 24 he was 47.) They still haven't had kids... naturally. But.. I mean, if children are honestly your main goal in the relationship (and not just a relationship for sex) then I can respect that. Even in our late 30s it's kinda hard to have a child. So I think that's fine, not shallow, although I would say if you wanted children you should have got …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 05:41 PM
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Explain this to me: https://www.reddit.com/r/niceguys/comments/41uf5c/sixteen_fedoras_detected/ Just a random article talking about how there are gentlemen out there (btw, there are.) Women proceed to make fun of it... for some reason :/ Then they link to this: https://www.reddit.com/r/niceguys/comments/41uyql/even_the_devil_backs_away/ Again, I don't get the need to make fun of it, or to assume that he's being nice to fuck her. Here's my opinion: there are niceguys who are just nice to you so t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 05:38 PM
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If we had very few things similar? Then no, I wouldn't date him, no matter how attractive he is. Sides it's not like 30 year olds are unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 05:24 PM
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If we had very few things similar? Then no, I wouldn't date him, no matter how attractive he is. Sides it's not like 30 year olds are unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 05:24 PM
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Yeah they are both bad. When did I disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 09:27 AM
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3 out of 10 actually, there is others where a guy is legitimately confused as to what he's doing wrong (he's being kind to girls and trying to get into a relationship with them, not trying to fuck them or anything.) That guy doesn't deserve mockery or harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 09:26 AM
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No, the one where the niceguy talks about how you should treat your girlfriend like a goddess, which is apparently something that is really sad and pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 07:39 AM
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Yeah, because the government of Sweden is filled with muslims trying to protect muslim immigrants. Btw I've talked to Swedes who tell me that the rape rate is high because under Swedish law what constitutes as rape is far broader than it is here, and that women report rape far more than they do here, as there is much less of a stigma of it there. Certainly immigrants, being poorer and foreign, will have a higher rape rate, however since most European countries are facing a demographic crisis the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 05:17 AM
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Answered below, or above.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 04:50 AM
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Many of the posts don't seem to be like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 04:31 AM
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He prefers to have a relationship with a woman he has nothing in common with, for shallow reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 04:28 AM
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He prefers to have a relationship with a woman he has nothing in common with, just so he can show her off to his friends. That is immature. I didn't say young women are immature, but they are in a different stage in life. Let them date young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 04:28 AM
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Yep, suddenly I'm being called a troll and being called a guy pretending to be a BPer (apparently my previous 300 posts on TBP were all an act) So clearly there is a huge overlap of radical feminists (and those crazy people over at NiceGuys) and blue pillers. Sad really. But I suppose it kinda makes sense. The only ladies who would bother with fighting terpers 24/7 are radical feminists. I feel like if with guys if you are very nice to some of them they begin to think 'hey maybe she actually lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 06:09 PM
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Yeah I posted it over at the blue pill and they don't agree. But I don't think it's fair to make fun of nice guys. Sure, they get annoying sometimes, especially when they are of the 'hey I'm being nice to you, now fuck me please?' variety. But I am trying to understand it from their pov. That sub is so mean-spirited.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 09:23 AM
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"Depends, to me an alpha male must prove that he cannot be taken advantage of." That's the description right there. Bravo ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 07:33 AM
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A lot of girls do have a fantasy of dating an older guy. It's not really something you should base a relationship on though. And of course there are gold diggers who are smart enough to know older=more wealthy, usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 07:31 AM
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What makes me think that? A quick skim of the terper sub, or RoK, at any point in the day. I think many feminists, and nearly all radical feminists, hate men. Maybe not consciously, but nonetheless. Both feminists and terpers show an astounding lack of empathy to members of the opposite sex. You can just see the attitudes directed towards the rape victims of the opposite sexes by these groups. It makes me rather sad. Humanity is really toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 07:11 AM
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Yikes! That sub made me sick! Almost as bad as TRP... huh.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 07:07 AM
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Here's what I honestly think. Appearance, unlike personality, is right there for you to see. The FIRST thing you notice about someone is their appearance. Are they tall? Are they fit? Are they good looking? (usually in that order.) When they meet your standards, THEN you get to (slowly) see they personality, but only when they qualify. Basically, personality may be weighed more, but you first have to get over that appearance threshold for your personality to even come into play.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 07:02 AM
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"nice male virgins are complete monsters, as deviant as rapists, necrophiliacs, and pedophiles." Who believes that? Old men dating young women are immature and lack something in life. They shouldn't be shamed though. If the woman is over 18, she's old enough to make her own decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 06:59 AM
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You mean old-money sorority girls? Way too busy fucking old-money fraternity guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 06:55 AM
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Of course they become more alpha. It's not a poor way to judge things at all. Your notch count is a poor way to judge things. That employer can fire your ass. He has all the power over you. Thus, in this scenario the employer is more alpha than the employee. Imo, the main indication of alpha is status. the president is the most alpha guy in the country, it's hard to dispute that. Next would probably be wealth and education. My ex from high school is currently working in a construction firm for a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 06:53 AM
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Did you read those links? the MEN posting (on some male domain sub, can't remember) were all talking about how red pill ruined their relationships. Their attempts to make their relationships with women based on control, manipulation and domination backfired. Some TBP posters are nuts, I admit that. I just had a big argument with the childfree and the feminists who support them. Oh the big bad patriarchy is making us have children! So yeah, some BP posters are nuts. There are crazy people everywh…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 06:24 AM
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I know plenty of men who are attractive, wealthy and not misogynists. I can certainly have it both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 06:20 AM
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lol ok
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 06:17 AM
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Some are, for sure. I don't believe in AWALT though
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 04:05 AM
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Some of those links are very good. Especially the 'why TRP is bad for men.' Overall, TRP is so obviously, at it's core, an ideology based on the hatred of women, that it's really, very difficult to take it seriously. Non-whotes don't really debate white supremacists. I mean, just on the topic of hypergamy for example. We know that in general hypergamy (as defined by terpers, not the correct definition) is seen in both men and women. Terpers insist that women are not loyal only insofar as it is i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 03:57 AM
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If you go over to the Blue Pill sub, the very first post (stickied) is an effective rebuttal of the entire TRP philosophy. That gives us room to post satire and to just giggle at the stuff you guys write.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 03:38 AM
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I think certain women fit the definitions of what terpers want to label all women as, but it's not a majority, plurality or even a significant minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 03:36 AM
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"Any woman without concrete career goals is a major red flag." No way? YOU think that? Most Terpers disagree. "Probably because RPers got duped and failed with women before, so they want to have fun and make up for it." I suppose I can understand that. They are basically making up for not having experienced all of that immaturity in high school and college.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 03:32 AM
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Certainly... it doesn't really equal more STR attractiveness I suppose. But I guess a problem I have here is that I am unable to wrap my head around why all these guys are SO obsessed with fucking as many women as possible. I definitely would not marry someone without a bachelor degree from a good uni, or a masters degree. Pretty sure my dad wouldn't allow me to anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 03:26 AM
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Yes I am a devout Catholic. Okay, I misspoke. most men don't grow out of that phase. I would think that successful men do though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 03:22 AM
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Yeah, it get's them life partners, which is what they want. My bf doesn't want casual sex, for example. i think most men grow out of that phase after freshman year of college.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 03:18 AM
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"You are picturing a high smv beta bucks" You mean your employer?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 03:17 AM
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Oh, what fantasy novel did you read that from?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 03:16 AM
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Who was talking about attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 03:16 AM
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I read it all the time. For some reason ><
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 03:14 AM
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A large proportion of TRP also seem to fuck 100 women a day. That said, it's not too difficult to get a bachelor degreee from Arizona state or something. I'm talking about masters and PHDs, or bachelors from impressive schools.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 05:58 PM
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The REAL definition of an alpha is a successful man with a good status and a lot of power (not just a high notch count.) So, if terpers are low-income with high school degrees, then they probably aint alphas. Thats all I'm sayin.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 05:26 PM
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Yeah, and the field reports and success stories are largely nonsense too. If you need to read about how to get women, I don't think you ever will. Also, TRP gives pretty lazy advice. Very low focus on education (universities are marxist after all) and career.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 05:23 PM
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I really doubt I'll be wrong. Men who have success with women don't come online to bitch about them. Men who have successful careers don't get involved in such conversations. Men who have masters degrees and doctorates don't write like terpers do. But if I am wrong, then I'll admit it. Too bad everyone here is anyonymous and no study of the sort will ever happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 08:20 AM
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I would prefer if someone did a study on the income and education of the average terper. Then we could definitively show that the average terper is in no way shape or form an 'alpha.'
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 07:59 AM
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Umm, that's not what I was suggesting. I was saying that humans used to be WORSE in regards to rape. Hell, honor killings were the norm in almost every single country at one point in history. Fuck victim blaming, we used to kill the victims. My point is it's getting better, due to cultural advancement, women's rights and education. "Its not a surprise that the places that have the most sexual assaults would be places with large population in Dense areas." There is no correlation. Definitely not …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 04:03 AM
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I see. Why are you bringing that up though? No feminist is saying those people don't have rape culture. All uneducated, poor men are more inclined to rape. I don't support vast immigration into European countries. We should accept a few (like Canada has) but make sure they are families, not single men, and make sure they are educated. What we don't like is when the same people who don't care AT ALL about rape start printing stories about rape as if it suddenly became a problem. Did Breitbart eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 03:56 AM
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Depends: For a casual relationship: (irrelevant anyway since I don't do that anymore) Values, Sexual Skills, Personality, Looks, Stability. For commitment: Values, Stability, Personality, Looks, Sexual Skills But in either case.. values are the most important thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 03:45 AM
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The statistics for rape remain very high. 84,035 rapes in 2012. And, 98% of those arrested for rapes (around 23,000 I believe) were male. Rape culture then defends these people and attacks the rape victims by making excuses: she was drunk! she's probably lying! She was walking alone, wearing a miniskirt at 11 PM! Rape culture doesn't imply that most men are rapists. It implies that there is a significant group that are, or that trivialize rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 03:38 AM
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Nope, humans haven't always been like that. Just compare and contrast the attitude of men here to the attitude of men in India. In India many men think that women deserve rape if they are outside at night, unaccompanied by a family member. That belief is almost gone here, except among terpers, due to education and cultural advancement.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 03:29 AM
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Read the comments on the recent rape articles here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 03:27 AM
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Nail on the head. It's odd though. Red Pill women seem to think that them admitting and thus confirming what The Red Pill says about female sexual strategy will somehow make Red Pill guys see them as superior to other women. Really, their whole show is just a sad attempt by a few women to satisfy the female need for attention.
/r/TheRedPill18/01/16 03:26 AM
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Meh. Truth is that you guys don't care at all about rape victims when they are raped by white men. You only post stories of rape victims when they were raped by foreign men, and you know that. This is what every right wing website has been doing over the last month. And yet, none of these sites would have printed a single story of rape victims from white men last year. You aren't concerned with the girls being raped. You are only angry because you percieve that some foreigner has stolen what's r…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 03:12 AM
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OR we could just teach men not to trivialize rape. Seems easier than making all our kids psychos.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 03:09 AM
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Hey so even you guys have a problem with RPwomen. Poor RPgirls, no one likes them :(
/r/TheRedPill18/01/16 02:19 AM
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What the fuck? The average female rape victim is 14 years old. You expect her, or any other female for that matter, to know martial arts?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 02:15 AM
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Yep! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 02:15 AM
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Yeah that's why you need religion to fool him into getting married :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 01:59 AM
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Don' troll then. "white genocide. muslims rape white girls and government protects them." ^ The average twerper comment. But they can't be white.. no way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 01:58 AM
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Well, yes we all want good looking partners. But personally, I'd prefer it my man did not have many, if any, partners before marriage. Why? I'd like for him to be a devout Christian. Some women want players, some want gentlemen.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 01:50 AM
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Yes, women are attracted to attractive men. It's not rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 01:40 AM
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Not necessarily. Each women has their own type right? Most women don't really care about notch count. Some, like myself, would get turned off by a very high notch count. That shows they can't commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 01:39 AM
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You have no idea what I was saying. Go home.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 11:36 PM
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The rampant hatred of Islamic and Hispanic immigrants, and sometimes of black people, basically narrows down terpers to White males. But fuck common sense right.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 11:35 PM
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Why were you talking about 'providing' then? you seemed to be insinuating that a successful man is a man who is able to provide, and thus trying to relate a high notch count with ability to provide (aka job status and wealth.) It has nothing to do with that. Conclusion, you had no point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 10:21 PM
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You seemed to be saying there is a big correlation between your 'notch count' and how successful you are. I doubt that's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 09:08 PM
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You are very confused. I basically made the same point you did. Some women do like 'inexperienced' men, but there has to be a manly reason for their inexperience, like religious vows or commitment in an LTR. That was my point, in response you said 'RP' confirmed. smh
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 09:06 PM
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It often has seldom to do with providing. The engineers and mathematicians in my university are probably largely virgins. And yet any girl who wants a provider will go for them not the frat boys. But thats not really the way society works anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 08:12 PM
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Umm when did I say that. You seem to be trying to be offended. Reread: "If a male WANTS to have constant casual sex but CANT, then that's kind of sad." That's not gentlemanly. That guy is chasing skirt and failing. That's not impressive and not attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 08:10 PM
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I know they are like that here. I'm speaking of their actual countries. most marriages in Islamic countries and India are still arranged. A man doesn't even have to learn game there, he just has to have wealth and come from a good family.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 07:27 PM
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My guess is anywhere between 90 to 99% of terpers are straight white males. I suppose it's because our societies face the most imbalance in terms of gender dynamics. Black communities are already very accustomed to 'game.' Meanwhile Asian, Indian and Islamic societies focus far more on marriage than relationships and casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 06:58 PM
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It depends. If a male wants to have constant casual sex but can't, then that's kind of sad and yeah, most women will skip this guy. On the other hand, if a male has been in a very long term relationship, or is just very religious, then his low N count has very little to do with lack of success, status, attraction, charisma etc. This individual hasn't been ignored by women who are looking for sex, he's been the one ignoring them . That makes him more attractive, if anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 06:54 PM
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Can't do anything about the first two, and it's very unlikely any terper will have a huge bank account.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 10:32 PM
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uhh, sure. That's irrelevant though. Women of all classes were treated as property. Even in the US, we couldn't vote until 1920, corporal punishment was allowed and encouraged until 1900, a wife was considered her husbands property until 1950 and etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 06:04 PM
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I don't think you understand numbers. Go back to school.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 04:56 PM
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There are numbers for that too. Consider that 98% of people arrested for rape in 2008 were men (BJS dot gov) and as for oppression of women for 10,000 years, you don't need numbers for that you just need general knowledge, which you lack. Now stop trolling me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 08:10 AM
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Yeah, it's normally just kinda amusing but every so often, like this thread, you get a lil' nauseous at how fucked up terpers are. But don't let it get to ya!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 07:21 AM
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Naa, that was satire. many men are lovely. There are many good and many bad people in the world. Some will stay w you forever, some will bail. It depends on the person. Shocking I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 06:40 AM
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If men loved women they wouldn't rape so many women If men loved women there wouldn't be 10,000 years of female abuse in history. If men loved women they wouldn't have a higher rate of infidelity. Please explain what "love" means to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 06:26 AM
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Never heard of that idea before.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 06:24 AM
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Eh, girls are most likely to be raped at 13. so the woman could be 33. Not old. How is male rape worse? Both are equally bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 05:22 AM
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I was born and raised in the US. My point was that rape culture in India is like that because of the wrong mindset in men. The problem is similar, though not as bad, here. The solution is the same - education.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 04:49 AM
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Naa, women enjoy being killed too. Poor men, they just can't win.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 03:32 AM
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Oh, I debate these things in university all the time. So one time one of my friends brought up the gang rapes in india so I studied it a bit. Well I know conservative women from India generally do a man as the head of a household. Some also dress modestly and believe in gender roles. However if she's religious she's likely to reject PUA, and most women will never agree that they are inferior, should be manipulated, controlled, used and dominated etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 03:01 AM
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Terpers use the term solipsism incorrectly. Don't terp. Be smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 02:54 AM
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I'm not Indian. IF shes religious Hindu with Indian values she probably agrees with some points terpers make. But overall any woman with self-esteem is going to react negatively to misogyny (which is what TRP is), regardless of her background.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 02:53 AM
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No. Using the word 'survivor' indicates that rape is somehow something horrific, when in fact the bitch probably wanted it. Oh, and since people here actually voice these opinions, I should clarify that I was being sarcastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 02:47 AM
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Not just women, but everyone. Everyone is a product at least in part of the norms of the society they are brought up in.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 02:06 AM
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I was talking about India. Reread the post. And before you say its not acceptable in India either, have a look at the comments by the various gang rapists there. It's not acceptable, but it is common and widespread.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 02:03 AM
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cognitive dissonance. You guys want sexually open women who are not sluts. Conservative whores. Woah.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 09:09 PM
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Okay, mildly attractive means like a 6 or above right. But a 6 for me is different than a 6 for my friend. She may consider a guy who is a 4 for me to be a 6, and vice versa. Basically anyone who is average can be the right type for a certain girl, and that will push them up to mildly attractive or attractive. Anyway, as a girl I can tell you the vast majority of the things you guys say on trp are completely untrue. The effort of understanding us seems rather wasted really.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 08:51 PM
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It's not out of touch, it wasn't very in depth I'll grant you but I'm in class right now. I never said above average attractiveness, but guess what if you are ugly and fat then it's going to be harder. That's just a fact of life. But if you are completely average, then that's fine. Also, being a nice and kind person isn't particularly hard. You can meet the sexthings anywhere. My bf met me at church. I wouldn't really advocate hanging around places just to meet girls. Be involved in some communi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 08:29 PM
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I offered plenty of 'alternatives' below/above this post. You guys don't want us to change our behaviors. Go to any manosphere blog and there will guaranteed by an article in the last month about how women need to be less slutty and more traditional. Guess what, if women are like that, they will seek and desire sex less then men, and that is what makes the dynamics between males and females what it is and what it has always been.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 08:20 PM
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We don't approach men, period. The woman who approaches men is presumed to be a slut by men, and desperate by other women. That's just how society is. But everyone in society goes for good looks. That's just the way things are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 08:03 PM
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Sort of. If you are mildly attractive but a sweet person who is not particularly shy or awkward, you can still find a girlfriend, without too much difficulty. All you need is exposure (you need to know a few girls) and you need to treat them as humans (treat them as you would your friends, just get to know them.) In most cases you don't need to change your entire personality in order to attract at least some women. You just need to socialize more. Find someone like yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 08:02 PM
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Yeah, and how many men have you seen approaching women who aren't good looking?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 07:21 PM
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Partly. However, rape is widespread in India too, where college parties where lots of alcohol is consumed and girls and guys mingle is all quite rare. There, many males have a mentality that a woman who is outdoors late at night, unaccompanied by family members, is asking for rape. So in addition to teaching young women to be careful (I certainly will teach my daughters if, God forbid, I have any) we also have to make the men understand that this behavior is wrong. it's a slow process, but it do…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 06:45 PM
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What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 06:11 PM
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Well being yourself isn't necessarily bad advice. It depends on who 'yourself' is and what your goals are. If 'yourself' means an introverted, overweight, shy, computer geek who stays at home all day; then no, you won't fuck a lot of women. This guy could be nice but he aint getting all the women cause a) he isn't meeting any and b) he isn't attracting any. If 'yourself' means someone who is outgoing, nice, fit, kind, helpful, volunteers at churches and stuff, talks to people, cares about them (…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 05:38 PM
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College is real life, genius. The girl who's rape you are dismissing so casually will be scarred for the rest of her life about that incident.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 05:31 PM
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What separates Pakistani society from American society, at least in regards to women, is 80 years of feminism. In some cases nowadays feminism has gone too far. But it is still very much relevant. Even now many men in the West believe that provocative clothing is grounds for rape, or that drunk girls are fair game, and etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 03:44 PM
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If you are attracting a significant amount of men who believe that women shouldn't have careers, that they shouldn't vote, that male adultery is perfectly cool, that polygyny is good, that corporal punishment is good and etc. then you really need to reflect on the overall message of your community. What attracts these men to the red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 03:40 PM
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Well, it certainly can be attractive. No being nice alone won't help you 'pick up' women. Walking into a bar and telling some woman how you just helped an elderly woman cross the street won't make her want to fuck you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 03:38 PM
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WOW, you just proved my point. Do you realize that? You automatically assumed associated all feminists with the most radical members of feminism (even many of those women never asserted that men are worse than women.) Why not talk about Caitlin Moran, Angelina Jolie, or, especially, Malala Yousafzai
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 03:33 PM
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I'd say it's very much on topic. No, those don't work. What does work is confidence in approaching women, having more exposure (going out more, being around more women), being good looking if possible, well dressed, good hair, good fitness, and yes, being nice can work for some guys too. No, being nice is not enough. Opening a door for a lady won't make her fuck you. Crazy, I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 02:45 PM
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What worked then? Your success w the red pill was probably just the placebo effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 02:35 PM
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"Feminism may sound good in theory, but the evidence is not bearing out..." Feminism never had anything to do with having women ask men out on dates, or with being the same as men. Contrary to belief, feminists don't insist that men and women are the same, merely that they deserve equal rights. to answer your question, the average girl believes that her friends and the guy she is asking will both perceive her as desperate (and as a result, she perceives herself as desperate) if she goes and asks…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 02:32 PM
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Feminism, more than any other ideology, is automatically associated with it's most extreme form (radical feminism.) Very few women want to be associated with those beliefs, so they avoid feminism altogether. But if you asked them if they support women rights, nearly 100% would say yes (as would most men (betas).) Feminism just has a bad rep and women (and men(betas)) want to stay away from it as a result.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 02:25 PM
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Nuh uh. Ever read RoK? Dalrock? The Rational Male? For some reason I've become obsessed with this whole thing, and I've stumbled across many articles and threads that suggest women working has caused the collapse of the west. Yeah, you seem different. Yknow, my theory is that the vast majority of red pillers are unsocial (or as you said, semi-autistic) guys who've had a lot of difficulty with women. I can't imagine what it must be like to be in mid 20s and having hardly had any interaction with …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 02:03 PM
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don't terpers largely want us to not have careers and to not vote etc. Well I should thank you for at least being 'straight' and not being rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 07:24 AM
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Ah I see. So the domination, control, manipulation and subjugation of women is part of 'sexual strategy.'
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 07:02 AM
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The only things we link to TBP is misogynistic nonsense like 'the western woman is the devil' and 'you need to make her submit to your power' and 'no means no until it means yes' and whatnot. To the OP: you can sleep with more women (if that's your goal in life roll eyes) by dressing better, having more exposure and being fit and confident. There, I told you all the advice you need to know, I just filtered out the other crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 06:03 AM
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A very unhelpful guy :P
/r/askTRP14/01/16 07:40 PM
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So what is the fundamental thing that separates a beta from an alpha? I would have thought it's status and power. Surely a boss who's just fired an employee cause he doesn't like him is more 'alpha' then the employee. But if the boss has only slept with one woman his whole life, and the employee has been with 400, the terpers would call the employee an alpha and the boss a puny worthless beta. So yeah, I don't get it. Twould be very helpful if you cleared it up.
/r/askTRP14/01/16 06:31 PM
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So you have to cheat on your wife to be an alpha. Got it.
/r/askTRP14/01/16 02:55 PM
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Yeah, being a female with 200 female friends, I know very little about females. I'm not here to brand you all as misogynists. I have a course called sociology of gender and I'm writing a very ambitious report on the terper and mgtow communities, so I'm actually trying to understand you guys.
/r/askTRP14/01/16 01:20 AM
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Yeah a CEO is an 'alpha.' But I doubt any CEO ever had dreams of being a CEO just so he could eventually get a lot of women to sleep with him. That's what separates successful people with you guys. Terpers are juvenile. They measure success in how many women you can sleep with. Even in the shoes of a CEO all you can think about is how many women you can sleep with. You don't have to be immoral cheating scum to be alpha. My daddy is wealthy, he never cheated on my mom, and she would never have to…
/r/askTRP14/01/16 01:18 AM
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On the contrary, a CEO may have other goals - to make money for the sake of it, to support his family, to make himself feel good about his own success. He may not be, and most probably isn't, working hard so that he can impress 18-25 year old women. At least, I think it's like that. Maybe I don't understand men properly, but certainly there are many men (like my daddy) who got married early (thus removed themselves from the sexual market) but still worked very hard.
/r/askTRP13/01/16 02:22 PM
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See? SMV SMV SMV. As I said, those things are only important to you guys insofar as it helps to increase Sexual Market Value. Hey I've seen many people on the manosphere praise Dan Bilzerian and other 'players' and meanwhile call people like bill Gates etc. Betas so I don't really get it.
/r/askTRP13/01/16 02:08 PM
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If you say so. I don't really agree with acting purely on your own self-interest (hedonism) but hey, what do I know. I guess it's better than chasing women all the time. But yknow what, I still disagree with you. Maybe that's what you believe but it's not the vibe I get from the manosphere. For example, I notice that red pillers: don't really care about academic achievement. They are wary and distrusting of universities, and don't really respect or want to emulate the geniuses who advance scienc…
/r/askTRP13/01/16 02:02 PM
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Should I link a few posts so that you believe me?
/r/askTRP13/01/16 12:39 AM
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Well I wasn't suggesting that we care about a man's notch count. I was actually saying that most of us don't care at all. Except the religious conservative ones, who would want a lower notch count than 50. The point of my post was that it shouldn't matter. But it does. You guys brag about it like you are in high school.
/r/askTRP12/01/16 06:25 PM
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I think you've been around too many sluts. But then again, awalt right? That logical fallacy that insists all women are the same defeats all arguments. :(
/r/askTRP12/01/16 06:03 PM
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Hello WhyDoIEvenBother22, thanks for demonstrating how red pill guys really, really don't understand women. Women don't want men with high notch counts (as a woman I can verify that.) And the more conservative a woman is in her own 'notch count' the more that is true. None of my church group friends would want a 'player,' no way. I mean, of course very few women want a man with little to no experience. But I think most of us would prefer a man who has been in two or three LTR's rather than 50+ o…
/r/askTRP12/01/16 05:56 PM
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That's what you say and, perhaps, believe (and it's true.) None of the guys I've known have bragged about how many 'bitches they've been with' since they turned 20. Buuuut I hear that all the time in the red pill community. Actually, in this very post!
/r/askTRP12/01/16 05:50 PM
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I understand that. However, the feeling I get from red pill guys is that they value success with women (and not just one quality woman, it has to be a ridiculously exaggerated 'notch count') above ALL other indicators of success. Which seems a bit juvenile really, know what I mean?
/r/askTRP12/01/16 05:45 PM
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If you really are over 60 I think that's a good time to reflect and teach others your wrongs and rights in a proper moral manner :)
/r/askMRP07/01/16 03:00 PM
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Sorry, I don't have much respect for people who sacrifice morality for happiness. The path of hedonism is ALWAYS self-destructive. I did read your story. You reformed and your second relationship was much better. I wish you just realized that cheating was never a good option.
/r/askMRP07/01/16 11:54 AM
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You longed for better but instead of trying to develop a better relationship you cheated with 100 women. Nice.
/r/askMRP06/01/16 05:37 PM
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Stop using the term solipsism. I know you lot aren't particularly educated but just fyi, you are using that word wrong and Rene Descartes is rolling in his grave. A true Alpha would have other girls in the wings and wouldn't bother trying to restore a low sex marriage with an unpleasant harpy screechtard. A true alpha has more things on his mind than sex. You wouldn't know. My bf and I are abstinent, but he has plenty of other things to do like training for his swimming team, studying for his co…
/r/MarriedRedPill29/11/15 08:36 PM
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Well, I tried. God has made you eyes blind, and your heart wicked. Reason cannot penetrate your thick skull. So I won't try. The men here are cold and empty. They are abusing their wives. And God, the great equalizer, will punish them in this life and the next. By the way, my bf doesn't game me. He doesn't know what that is. All of the TRP and MRP men are not 'alpha.' Men who come online to see tips of how to get sex from their wives and complain to each other about how they are the victims, are…
/r/MarriedRedPill29/11/15 04:45 AM
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Polygamy leaves a significant amount of men without a partner, leading them to rape and other crimes. Additionally, it can't work in a society like ours, where the women are humans and not your playthings. Everywhere in the New Testament it mentions wife as a singular, and Jesus talked about the two shall become one. It doesn't mentioned WIVES anywhere. No where in the Bible does it mention sola scriptura. In fact, it mentions that Jesus tells his apostles to go and spread his message, and it me…
/r/MarriedRedPill29/11/15 02:39 AM
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Two shall become one flesh. Two divided by two equals what? Nice try though. So how many wives do you have? Also take a sociology course, polygamy is destructive for societies. God Bless the Catholic Church was spreading monogamy to the world.
/r/MarriedRedPill29/11/15 12:57 AM
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If that was the case I wouldn't have a problem with it. I am not a feminist. I am looking forward to having a biblical marriage which means I will be obedient to my husband - definitely not a feminist. However... let's examine your claim. First, it is quite clear that TRP and MRP view women negatively. They are: 'solipsistic','hamster-driven', hypergamous and inclined to unfaithfulness and divorce. First, Rene Descartes is rolling in his grave for the improper use of the term solipsism by this c…
/r/MarriedRedPill28/11/15 11:15 PM
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I'm not sure if Song of Songs is allegorical or literal. But have you read it? The depiction of love in it doesn't really match the rhetoric here. Polygamy was an Old Testament thing. Jesus made it clear that monogamy (lifelong, no one else before, during or after the marriage) is the only righteous path. Ephesians 5 or 1st Corinthians? Ephesians 5 commands a wife to be submissive to her husband, and her husband to love and sacrifice for his wife. The Red Pill emphasizes the first, but ignores t…
/r/MarriedRedPill28/11/15 07:39 AM
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There are a lot of stories that are borderline rape stories. Making someone feel insecure and using female vulnerabilities to get sex is not really rape, but it's still a despicable thing to do. But let's merge this into our other discussion? K
/r/MarriedRedPill28/11/15 07:25 AM
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He was not without sin, but I do not think the Holy Spirit would choose a hypocrite as the vessel from which it would give us the message of the majority of the New Testament. In my opinion, everything Paul said, he also practiced, or at least tried to.
/r/MarriedRedPill28/11/15 06:51 AM
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St.Paul was guided by the Holy Spirit, therefore he cannot have been a hypocrite. Everything he wrote, he practiced. And he clearly established, in that verse, that he never married. Premarital sex, regardless of what notabiblescholar (apt name), is a sin - according to St. Paul himself. Logical conclusion -> St. Paul never married!
/r/MarriedRedPill27/11/15 10:28 PM
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Tingles, lmao. I have a very great boyfriend, tyvm. Bitter old divorced men don't interest me. And I'm not gonna argue Christianity with someone who thinks fornication is okay. You obviously have no idea what our religion is about.
/r/MarriedRedPill27/11/15 08:21 AM
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lololol. You think fornication doesn't mean/include premarital sex? You really think that Paul had premarital sex (since its clear, to any reasonably intelligent individual from the passage that he never married)? There is no point continuing this conversation. Your brain doesn't function properly. True definition of a cherry picker. Thank God you are not a Catholic.
/r/MarriedRedPill27/11/15 06:06 AM
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Not a Bible Scholar... nice name. Since you clearly aren't. No evidence Paul was celibate? Hmm.. "But I say to the unmarried that it is good for them if they remain even as I. But if they do not have self-control, let them marry; for it is better to marry than to burn with passion" So Paul was unmarried, and indeed he preached against fornication. So if he was not having premarital sex and was not married, then what was he?
/r/MarriedRedPill27/11/15 12:29 AM
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Kay I'll bite. Can you explain to me what you mean by shame? Give me an example.
/r/MarriedRedPill26/11/15 07:16 PM
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Jesus and Paul were celibate. They both were against premarital sex. Half of the red pill is PUA, based on manipulating girls for casual sex - completely against the Lord's teachings. The other half - dread game etc. - is also completely against his teachings. Jesus was not red pill at all. Stop trying to read between the lines and justify your misogyny with religion. It's not going to work. I'm not sure if the churches are feminized. The Catholic Church certainly isn't feminized, but it's also …
/r/MarriedRedPill26/11/15 02:46 AM
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