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| 5 | What is with the growing trend of extreme viewpoints being adopted by the users on this subreddit? | Empress_Dota | /r/MensRights | 14/04/17 02:09 PM |
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| 1 | I wish had known that domestic violence against men was a real thingMy current boyfriend had been through something similar. Mostly emotional abuse rather than physical, with his dad always justifying or cowing to her actions in order to keep the 'peace.' You are not misogynistic for realising women can be abusive. Instead you're seeing reality from an objective standpoint. There are bad women, good women, bad men and good men. Ergo: there are good and bad people. Gender means nothing when it comes to this rule. The problem is, abuse tends to be more defined by … | /r/MensRights | 30/12/17 02:56 PM |
| 1 | The Left Always Eats Itself: Transgender athletes crush females: It’s “violence against women.”I'm still willing to extend a hand regardless of what his positions are. I prefer to give everyone the chance to understand, if they refuse that, then that is their loss. Though having a look... woo, what a ride that was. | /r/MensRights | 17/04/17 07:54 PM |
| 1 | The Left Always Eats Itself: Transgender athletes crush females: It’s “violence against women.”Fair points yet we discount that due to higher bone density a transwoman at the same weight has less muscle density, which could impact physical performance. Also the article itself exclusively showed non-hormone blocking trans athletes dominating the competition which I have stated is obvious because they will have a biological advantage with so much testosterone. Thanks for responding -- and don't take this as a sign of my own disinterest, but this will likely be my last response. I just don't… | /r/MensRights | 15/04/17 03:51 AM |
| 1 | What is with the growing trend of extreme viewpoints being adopted by the users on this subreddit?No. I feel due to how emotionally charged this subject is people are more likely to misconstrue my intentions. Feminists would not be nicer if we were. But the point remains, I cannot state that everybody, or even a large majority of the movement in my eyes, approach solving the issues through a methodology where people would be more receptive. My point of education is essentially stating how I feel we should try to educate and not make those who question their own ideologies feel unwelcome with… | /r/MensRights | 15/04/17 03:36 AM |
| 1 | What is with the growing trend of extreme viewpoints being adopted by the users on this subreddit?I never stated it was.... It was more the actual article itself and the mindset that the left is eating itself. Narrative is important, as many have stated, seeing as people are sick and tired of the narrative portrayed of men in media and general society. GD is NOT a MRA issue, nor do I wish it to be such. I never mentioned this. I was talking about the left part.... Please call out GD discussions if not relevant. That's all I really have to say seeing as I've discussed this chain enough | /r/MensRights | 14/04/17 07:07 PM |
| 1 | What is with the growing trend of extreme viewpoints being adopted by the users on this subreddit?Being anti-left is not bad, but it's not necessarily the best mindset if we wish to bolster our movement. And I say our because I am very much invested in it. Thank you for the links, and I'll have a nice read of them after I cook dinner, but please understand, I was never trying to police. I think things were lost in metaphoric translation. Regarding Trump -- absolutely agree. Kind regards. xx | /r/MensRights | 14/04/17 07:04 PM |
| 2 | The Left Always Eats Itself: Transgender athletes crush females: It’s “violence against women.”Oh, I can agree. There is no such thing as a biological change. But if you do some reading on the subject with an open mind, you'll find us rational ones who actually suffer from the medical condition gender dysphoria have no other choice than to go through these 'cosmetic' yet, also physiological and hormonal changes. Trans people do exist however. Since the terminology is literally short for transitioning from one sex to the other, at least physically to what is most possible. And, lets take y… | /r/MensRights | 14/04/17 06:44 PM |
| 3 | What is with the growing trend of extreme viewpoints being adopted by the users on this subreddit?The content that I have encountered seems to dictate a certain disdain for the left. Example - check my responses, there is a thread that is 'The left always eats itself'. The entire thread creates a left is always wrong mentality which, whilst I agree they are wrong at times, as are the individuals who support the left. Hey I am wrong as well at times. However to state it is tone policing to speak out against a trend I have noticed is wrong. Others in this thread have also spoke of alienation a… | /r/MensRights | 14/04/17 06:15 PM |
| 1 | What is with the growing trend of extreme viewpoints being adopted by the users on this subreddit?Thank you for stating what I am also feeling. Thank you. | /r/MensRights | 14/04/17 05:37 PM |
| 2 | What is with the growing trend of extreme viewpoints being adopted by the users on this subreddit?I absolutely abhor the modern day identity politics and demonization of straight white men. I feel I have a certain degree of empathy because I lived many years in a similar role as a bisexual white man who always felt trans but nobody would know that. I understand what it is like. Really. And that is part of the reason why I am so able to empathise with men in your position. Please understand, my post was never intended to attack anybody's viewpoint, nor was it a troll, it was just sort of disp… | /r/MensRights | 14/04/17 05:34 PM |
| 1 | What is with the growing trend of extreme viewpoints being adopted by the users on this subreddit?A very good point. Thank you for the contribution! :) | /r/MensRights | 14/04/17 05:14 PM |
| 1 | What is with the growing trend of extreme viewpoints being adopted by the users on this subreddit?I don't think men should give in. Never. Ever. EVER. However, I was merely concerned for how we're deviating from the points and entering more political territory. | /r/MensRights | 14/04/17 05:13 PM |
| 2 | What is with the growing trend of extreme viewpoints being adopted by the users on this subreddit?I am unaware that this is a growing trend. If it is, I apologise for overburdening an already burgeoning topic. I apologise, but it was never my intention to troll. I feel I relatively articulated my points that they shouldn't be considered a 'troll'. I am okay if you disagree with my points however :). | /r/MensRights | 14/04/17 05:12 PM |
| 5 | What is with the growing trend of extreme viewpoints being adopted by the users on this subreddit?As some have mentioned, they would prefer I say (look in the comments hon). You're not even jumping the gun at this point. You've already reached the finish line before the stadium even opened. Edit: Please actually read the discussion. I never once stated that people don't want me. You are only stating your opinion because I am perhaps slightly ideologically different than you. Regardless, we likely believe in the same rights, and desire the same outcomes to certain degrees. Seeing as this is n… | /r/MensRights | 14/04/17 05:11 PM |
| 2 | What is with the growing trend of extreme viewpoints being adopted by the users on this subreddit?The lack of mentioning any links was due to not wanting to lampshade or create any form of negativity towards those individuals. I admittedly am unwilling to go back through all the threads I've read today, so that is my failing I suppose. I apologise :). Edit: In regards to the co opting, I meant mens rights are co opting and focusing too much on anti SJW much like how Feminism has co opted race relations and all that bullshit. Essentially, I just feel like we could be focusing more on arguing … | /r/MensRights | 14/04/17 05:09 PM |
| 1 | What is with the growing trend of extreme viewpoints being adopted by the users on this subreddit?Could you please inform me to the 19th amendment. I fear I am out of the loop here. It would be nice to hear. I just wish we weren't in such dire straits. | /r/MensRights | 14/04/17 04:29 PM |
| 1 | The Left Always Eats Itself: Transgender athletes crush females: It’s “violence against women.”I apologise for misunderstanding your point. Please forgive that. The era of segregated sports may end, but I almost foresee a two tier system where women will want to compete in mens sports but there will also be a women's league. It's not fair, but I can see it. Regardless, I feel we should include trans athletes if they fit the parameters that are expected of natal women. Maybe that's MY own bias however. Lol. | /r/MensRights | 14/04/17 04:28 PM |
| 10 | Male rape survivors tell of their battle to have their voices heard after being told ‘men are the attackers, women are the victims’That's horrible, you have my deepest sympathies. Your story is indicative of societies mindset in general. :/ | /r/MensRights | 14/04/17 04:22 PM |
| 1 | What is with the growing trend of extreme viewpoints being adopted by the users on this subreddit?Due to my lack of real knowledge on this I cannot state certainly for one way or the other. However, civil unrest should not be desired in my opinion. | /r/MensRights | 14/04/17 04:11 PM |
| 1 | What is with the growing trend of extreme viewpoints being adopted by the users on this subreddit?One of the speakers was against the proposition. Some people however did nod their head in the crowd. Yet I feel it wasn't a common viewpoint amongst the attendees. They do fight dirty, yet I think we sometimes convince ourselves that SJWs are the norm. Ordinary everyday women don't all think like that. They see themselves as equality feminists, and they aren't taught about men's issues, but these individuals can be reasoned with. We need to be able to incorporate lots of views whilst keeping ou… | /r/MensRights | 14/04/17 04:07 PM |
| 5 | What is with the growing trend of extreme viewpoints being adopted by the users on this subreddit?If you would take time to read the discussion in this thread you can very well see that I have a genuine interest in mens rights. Our viewpoints may differ, but your efforts to silence me through falsified claims are pointless and redundant. However, I assure you I am not a troll. Whatever your problem with me or my way of phrasing, I apologise. However this entire thread was rhetorical due to frustration at a pattern I have noticed. If that is something you have a problem with, move on from thi… | /r/MensRights | 14/04/17 03:58 PM |
| 3 | What is with the growing trend of extreme viewpoints being adopted by the users on this subreddit?It was a rhetorical question. Outliers do not represent a trend. Women do care for their boys. Yet, perhaps they do not understand the true impacts that feminism has had on society. Yet, your argument was, ultimately, without merit. Your defensive stance shows that you have nothing to contribute. Your annoyance at me putting the edit up to add clarification to my own point, is also unwarranted. I will not go away. I care about Mens Rights. Yet I do not wish to fall into the trap of believing eve… | /r/MensRights | 14/04/17 03:47 PM |
| 1 | What is with the growing trend of extreme viewpoints being adopted by the users on this subreddit?I can agree, but we could still cut away with the entire anti-left narrative and potential exclusion of certain allies (example, trans people like myself). Assertiveness is not the problem, but bigotry can be :). | /r/MensRights | 14/04/17 03:43 PM |
| 1 | The Left Always Eats Itself: Transgender athletes crush females: It’s “violence against women.”Height relative to females. 6'1 is tall if you take women's natural heights. As such, this is a relative performance indicator. Height plays a role, but, there are outliers (Messi). Point being, maybe we should develop larger criteria for what kind of transgender athletes can take part? Rather than stating without knowledge of how transitioning works that 'nope, impossible'. | /r/MensRights | 14/04/17 03:40 PM |
| 5 | What is with the growing trend of extreme viewpoints being adopted by the users on this subreddit?This is not tone policing in the slightest. You think outliers represent a trend in society? That is lunacy and fallacious. We are more inclined to notice the radical individuals who want to raise, in your case, androgynous children due to how bizarre it is. However, meet everyday women and you'll see how they cherish and love their boys and want them to be boys. Me enjoying a warcraft 3 mod game does not invalidate my points and to point it out is a way of silencing my own opinions due to a lac… | /r/MensRights | 14/04/17 03:28 PM |
| 3 | What is with the growing trend of extreme viewpoints being adopted by the users on this subreddit?And yet the fact that the movement is growing shows there are ways to rock that boat that has apparently stopped dead in the water. The more we ostracize ourselves from others, the harder it is to get our points across on a platform of true importance. | /r/MensRights | 14/04/17 03:26 PM |
| 2 | What is with the growing trend of extreme viewpoints being adopted by the users on this subreddit?Gynocentrism is a natural human reaction. Their tactics worked due to the inherent bias men and women have towards protecting women. Their tactics about changing facts are, for the most part, a side-course to the more primal instinct to protect and elevate our women. | /r/MensRights | 14/04/17 03:24 PM |
| 2 | What is with the growing trend of extreme viewpoints being adopted by the users on this subreddit?Yet this very polarization and submission to this mindset is what will eventually weaken the overall strength of our movement. A movement that once did not really have anything equivalent to Feminist TERFs (Trans exclusive radical feminists), a movement that was a lot more rational with their argumentation. The point being, I fear for the movement, because just like how occupy wallstreet went to shit when a lot of SJWs entered the mix, this place may become diluted with views which weaken our ov… | /r/MensRights | 14/04/17 03:19 PM |
| 2 | The Left Always Eats Itself: Transgender athletes crush females: It’s “violence against women.”Whilst that is true, there are natal females who have these biological benefits as well. In fact, should we ostracise male athletes who are born naturally superior to lesser male athletes? In most biological tests to try me as a man leads to a very skewed chart that says I'm fucked, but my ranges are very natural for women. I am weak. I am small as well. Yet such arguments would prevent me from partaking in sport if I so desired due to my apparent benefits which can be present in even natal fema… | /r/MensRights | 14/04/17 03:17 PM |
| 1 | The Left Always Eats Itself: Transgender athletes crush females: It’s “violence against women.”However you are operating under an assumption that all men are tall and all women are small. Whilst there are natural biological tendencies, to completely overrule a transgender individual's right to compete simply due to being trans is ludicrous. Case in point, I am 5'6. A male who has entered puberty who is currently experiencing body strength from testosterone will be stronger. However you lack the understanding of the sheer effects of hormone blockers. As I have repeatedly stated in my respo… | /r/MensRights | 14/04/17 03:14 PM |
| 3 | What is with the growing trend of extreme viewpoints being adopted by the users on this subreddit?The very reason it worked for feminism is due to an inherent, biological bias that men have that makes them value women higher than they do men. As a result, such tactics were favourable since they preyed on the biological inclinations of their recipients. Men are quite simply not cared for as much as women. To try and get what we want through their method would do nothing but invalidate the men and women who want it. I understand this is an emotionally charged topic however, and logic and reaso… | /r/MensRights | 14/04/17 03:07 PM |
| 1 | What is with the growing trend of extreme viewpoints being adopted by the users on this subreddit?Once you sink low to the standards of another group you invalidate your cause. You must be able to vocalise your dissent in a manner that is civilised, otherwise, you risk destroying all you have built. Education of the matter is the most imperative course of action in my opinion. As Cassie Jay showed in her documentary. Even an ardent feminist can change her view. All it takes is an environment where they can learn without prejudice, without being attacked or pushed away. The argument of 'we've… | /r/MensRights | 14/04/17 02:58 PM |
| 1 | What is with the growing trend of extreme viewpoints being adopted by the users on this subreddit?1) A rational discussion can still occur amongst like and or open-minded individuals. In this case, we who discuss mens rights, should probably be able to have a rational discussion about it. I attended a red pill showing in Birmingham UK and got to have a wonderful discussion with the creator (even an autograph!) and in this meeting, a mens rights supporter said men should 'infiltrate society to progress our cause'. This mindset is duplicitous and undermines our movement, and I'd like that we c… | /r/MensRights | 14/04/17 02:51 PM |
| 20 | Male rape survivors tell of their battle to have their voices heard after being told ‘men are the attackers, women are the victims’Thank you very much for your comment. I am doing well and have wonderful support from my boyfriend. It was a long time ago and I am not the type to dwell on things as a victim. I'd rather just move on. Regardless, the fact that even in this day and age people will reject one experience because it clashes with their internal, non-evidence based mindset does sadden me. Have a wonderful day xx | /r/MensRights | 14/04/17 02:40 PM |
| 3 | What is with the growing trend of extreme viewpoints being adopted by the users on this subreddit?out that there is no interchangeability between men and women and equality and egalitarianism are ultimately anti-male endeavors. The reason this has become against the left is because more men have figured out that government is the tool that women use to take from men to give to women. Whilst I understand this, I feel that to become anti-left is to reject a half of society which should be brought into the fold to enhance our argument and understanding. Differing viewpoints bolster movements, w… | /r/MensRights | 14/04/17 02:35 PM |
| 2 | What is with the growing trend of extreme viewpoints being adopted by the users on this subreddit?There is nothing wrong with being pro-right. I never mentioned a fault in such a thing. My sadness at the anti-left mindset does not equate to having an annoyance at pro-right. I mentioned this place used to be one of political neutrality. I feel that is the best way to approach such a multi-faceted issue such as this. Fair enough, if that is what you believe. Yet there is also the crowd mentality which prevents others noticing that things are changing because they are part of the crowd. Its the… | /r/MensRights | 14/04/17 02:32 PM |
| 4 | The Left Always Eats Itself: Transgender athletes crush females: It’s “violence against women.”http://usatodayhss.com/2017/the-fc-dallas-u-15-academy-team-beat-the-u-s-women-s-national-team-5-2 I assume this is the article you refer to? As a former footballer (soccer to you) playing for a youth academy as a child, I can already see the flaws in your argument. There are aged 16 boys playing in high-end male competition in soccer, competing with the very best. In the article it mentions under 15s, which means anybody from ages 15 and under. These individuals have already started to undergo … | /r/MensRights | 14/04/17 02:15 PM |
| 208 | Male rape survivors tell of their battle to have their voices heard after being told ‘men are the attackers, women are the victims’Feminists (and quite a lot of women) didn't care of my status as a rape survivor until I became a woman. Sympathy is often wavered when they find out I was born a man and was raped by a woman for my first time. The confusion is damn near palpable. | /r/MensRights | 14/04/17 01:42 PM |
| 2 | The Left Always Eats Itself: Transgender athletes crush females: It’s “violence against women.”As a transitioned transgender woman, I can state with utmost certainty that you lack the knowledge in this subject to actually make a coherent case. Don't get me wrong, a non-transitioned woman who has yet to undergo hormone blockers should never be allowed into a women's league/competition for the hormonal levels, muscle density and sheer physical differences make it essentially a man vs a woman. However, as someone who has been on a blocker for over a year, the doctors have, for my own safety,… | /r/MensRights | 14/04/17 01:02 PM |
| 2 | Are there ANY other transMRAs out there?I'm trans (Pre HRT MtF but nearly on estrogen) and I identify as an egalitarian and partial anti-feminist. Do I qualify because of my sympathy for men and their issues due to the long-term gender-bias I have experienced? | /r/MensRights | 23/03/15 12:39 PM |
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