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EnderVaped/r/MarriedRedPill23/01/15 06:22 PM
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Sure. I mentioned that specifically in my previous post. That doesn't mean that TBP has beliefs. I mean, other than the mocking.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 07:05 PM
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It's the opposite view of RP, therefore it is something. It's not. It's a satire sub. No sociological viewpoint is espoused there. It exists only to point and laugh. Everything is something, even if they don't label themselves as such, and it has inherited values and principles that are opposite of opposition. I don't even understand where you're coming from here. You can be opposed to something without having the polar opposite view of things. There's this thing called middle ground, or moderat…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 03:45 PM
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You know, the first 5 or so are fairly accurate, if not painted in the worst possible light by your words. Let's look at the rest though: Men and women are not really different except for their genitalia. They think the same way, process information the same way, respond to external stimuli the same way, and respond to internal emotions and thought processes the same way. Nobody thinks this. At all. This is a strawman RP likes to build because of their over-reliance on Biotruths. There are many …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 08:47 PM
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OH SHIT, I didn't mean to post this in this thread. Deleting.
/r/MGTOW18/11/16 03:36 PM
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[citation needed]
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 03:28 PM
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Women claim they need these requirements of kindness and generosity to be sexually attracted to a man. This is the fallacy here. Where do they say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 06:07 PM
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Women gave birth to the men. Checkmate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 07:33 PM
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Well, this is a deadend conversation. As long as you're going to continue to suggest that somehow women are a hivemind who all act exactly alike, there's no possibility to continue.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 08:21 PM
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The thing about the red pill is that its mostly about getting casual sex, one night-stands. There are guys who are looking for LTRs but most nah This part of the thread started with the question of "what would BP say to someone who can't get laid". RP isn't part of the equation there, hence why I didn't assume it was about ONS. Ah ok, sorry. i don't really see people as being unique. Lets be frank here. What woman would reject an one night stand with David Beckham, the former Football prodigy fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 08:17 PM
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Oh, sorry, I didn't realize this was a thread solely devoted to one night stands. Then I change my stance, I say that they suck at the ONS scene, and should probably go better places to find a romantic match. not really on what? Well, I said that everyone's unique, and you said "not really." That's not much of a stance, so I was hoping you'd expand on your opinion of the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 06:55 PM
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I'm nowhere near a Chad in looks, and I've had plenty of girlfriends. How do you explain that, if you think the only problem that incels have is that they're not Brad Pitt? not really Gonna need a little bit more than that if you actually want to continue this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 03:35 PM
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There. And yet, the former is still routinely called entitlement. Can you show me a link where this happens? Wanting sex is a natural part of being a human, and nobody in BP would call someone "entitled" for it. The rest of it, absolutely. But a simple desire for sex isn't treated as taboo or anything. But I do see. It's BP posters who don't, because they will handwave any struggling man who doesn't wholly agree with everything they preach, as entitled, lazy and evil. Show me. Give me a thread w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 03:34 PM
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And is that a problem with incels, who just won't do that for some reason, or is it a problem with TBP, because TBP is a sub dedicated to mocking various male sexual and romantic issues, and frequently uses virginity, lack of masculinity, lack of sexual success, as a source of insults? Both? I doubt a lot of incels would feel comfortable coming over to a satire sub for an honest conversation, and I can't blame them. There are better places for those conversations, anyways. Which is vague definit…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 02:56 PM
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The problem being that "nice" incels don't typically come over to BP for a real, frank discussion of their issues. The kind that BP likes to make fun of are the ones who think the world owes them sex, and refuse to make any changes to their life to increase their chances of finding someone, to the point that they blame women for their woes. So, no, I can't find what you're looking for, since I haven't actually seen an incel that was truly interested in maturing. It's certainly possible that one …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 02:43 PM
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That there's an aspect of their personality or approach that women find unattractive. Or perhaps they're looking in the wrong places. There's any number of possibilities, since every person is unique, including women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 02:22 PM
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What about women only interested in sex? Or are you trying to say that they don't exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 08:55 PM
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See, the issue here is that you view sex and relationships like a capitalist transaction. There is so much more nuance in sex and relationships that you cannot apparently see. And this is why I always argue against RP's tendency to frame women as worthless sluts, because that's all you're attracting with your ceaseless attitude towards sex and relationships. If you thought of them as something that two people contribute to, you'd understand that no gender controls anything, just the two (or more…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 08:48 PM
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Congratulations, you're able to read my flair. Would you like to actually contribute to the discussion now?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 08:42 PM
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The concept of one side being the "gatekeeper" of anything is stupid. Did you know that every single person in the world is a unique individual, and so is every relationship? Nobody holds some imaginary position of power over some nonsensical "gate" that somehow prevents the opposite sex the opportunity...actually, I really have yet to figure out what the hell people mean by this, other than using it as a screed against the other sex (traditionally, women).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 08:27 PM
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Had it been a woman they'd scream at us for making fun of a persons appearance. Bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 03:03 PM
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Yep, I messed that up. Thanks for the catch. And now I'm wondering if I misunderstood the point entirely. Now I have to wonder if it's BP's just world fallacy, or incels'. If it's a reference to BP, then I'd say that nothing changes in my statements. If it's incels, I get to post myself to /r/facepalm and get karma out of it anyways (hint: not serious, although you certainly could).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 08:48 PM
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The flaw being your belief that somehow BP thinks that we hold some super-powered tenet (hint: we have no tenets) that anybody who dares counter our "just world" theory (hint: it doesn't exist) is automatically considered "evil" (hint: what an absurd concept). BP as a whole doesn't like the sub. BP as a whole doesn't really have an opinion of incels in general, because, and let me be clear here, there are no BP beliefs. It's a satire sub. It's not some cult creed or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 07:54 PM
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edit: no need to sound like a jerk. Sorry. I see where you're coming from now. I was specifically referencing the sub to clarify that I was speaking about the sub itself, not anyone who might call themselves incel. There's way too many differences in experiences there to try to stereotype any great swath of incels outside of that sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 05:12 PM
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You're making an assumption that BP doesn't like incels because women don't want them. Which is utterly ridiculous. The thing that makes the sub unbearable is the terrible viewpoint the incels there have on sex and women. Which is exactly what I said in my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 02:13 PM
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I don't judge all incels from the forum, no. Neither did I say that I dislike all incels. I said the sub is terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 02:10 PM
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My god, you sound like an SJW with the amount of hamstering it took to make that statement. I've seen mental gymnastics before, but DAMN. And to answer your question, no, BP does not dislike incels because they're incels. Their sub, however, is a toxic shithole full of people who don't actually want to do anything to improve their situation, and they hold the same terribly negative viewpoint of women as RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 08:27 PM
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But, I thought Dread Game was used in a marriage to remind the wife that you have options other than her, and that she should remain faithful and devoted to you. If you say Dread Game is only for a last resort, what are you doing the rest of the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 05:52 PM
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Doesn't your stance directly contradict Dread Game? Making someone think you're going to leave sounds like you're blowing the marriage up and not interested in working things out.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 03:34 PM
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I thought women were pre-programmed to be gold-diggers, though. Isn't that the entire basis of divorce-rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 05:22 PM
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Sure, but he was referring specifically to BP, which I can only interpret as the BP sub. In the greater realm of things, yeah, there's plenty of people who think the hookup culture is the end of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 03:37 PM
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Who the hell says that? There isn't anything wrong with one-night stands, I don't see anybody making any claim like that. Where are you getting your information from?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 06:39 PM
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Huh! That's all very interesting reading (I'll even forgive the first two being the same writer, as the study itself is interesting). I'll have to take some more time to digest the entire study, but that is an interesting viewpoint. Thanks for that info.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 03:49 PM
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You seem to be confusing sarcastic disagreement with misunderstanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 03:40 PM
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I am saying that they don't really like it. It doesn't seem to come as naturally to them as to my male friends. I'm curious as to how you're measuring such a metric. I have quite a few female friends who genuinely care about me, even though I'm an antisocial asshole who doesn't put any effort into friendships. I don't assume every woman finds it easy to care, however, since I understand that every person is unique. I did. I actually made a thread here to ask blue pillers for help with a friendsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 03:39 PM
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So bad parenting = toxic to males? There are so many strawman overgeneralizations in that post that crows have become extinct.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 02:46 PM
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education these days is very female-centric Can you give an example of how this works? did they just decide to give up on themselves now that they had females in the classroom? Perhaps they were always underperforming, and now that women are focused on schooling and education, the lack of performance from men is becoming more apparent. Questions like these are waaaaay too complicated to boil down to "culture = toxic towards men". If men want to succeed, now they need to put in an equivalent leve…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 02:07 PM
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If every female friend you've ever had doesn't care about you, you might want to a) look for a different type of friend and/or b) examine your personality to find out why it happens, because the only constant in all of your failed relationships is you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 02:02 PM
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If you insist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 02:37 PM
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Okay, so we were having the same conversation, you just have no concept of what "common sense" means.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 08:17 PM
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The common man is fully aware that physical looks will help him get the ladies. How much work he needs to put in is subjective, but I dare you to go out into the wild and ask 100 overweight men if they think losing weight would help him get women. If you get more than 5 "no" responses, I will bake a hat cake and eat it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 08:16 PM
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So, your experience with "thousands of women who fall in the rather broad group of potential partners" (seriously? what do you consider "potential partner"? random chick in the elevator?) is more relevant than the posts listed in the RP forum? Why so? If the RP forum is a place where you "aggregate" information, why wouldn't it be the best place to get information about you guys? You very clearly have a general tenet.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 08:03 PM
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Yeah, we're definitely not having the same conversation. Here, you said: it has a conspicuous absence of fitness advice -- even the "be the best version of yourself" platitude doesn't throw in a "go for a run once and a while" point. and then I said: Are you seriously suggesting that "lose weight" isn't somehow common sense? That's the conversation I'm having. I'm saying that those "be a better person" articles shouldn't have to highlight basic health advice. "Lose weight" is simply common sense…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 07:59 PM
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Do you somehow not understand what "common sense" means? It means that the common man (read: everybody) knows this instinctively. Nobody needs to teach you that not showering for a week will harm your chances of attracting women. So no, no "get laid" lists are ever going to put something like that in, because it's so understood, there's no reason to mention it. I'm beginning to wonder if we're having the same conversation. edit: I suck at formatting
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 07:45 PM
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Do you somehow not understand what "common sense" means? It means that the common man (read: everybody) knows this instinctively. Nobody needs to teach you that not showering for a week will harm your chances of attracting women. So no, no "get laid" lists are ever going to put something like that in, because [i]it's so understood, there's no reason to mention it[/i]. I'm beginning to wonder if we're having the same conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 07:45 PM
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You don't need to weigh every person on the planet to figure out how heavy a human is -- you just need to weigh a representative sample. Right. So, I've determined that I've seen enough RP posts to confirm that you're all misogynistic assholes who are afraid of women. It's totally true, because of the representative sample! Generally anecdotes from in the wild support TRP Except for the ones that you ignore, obviously. The billions of "obvious edge cases".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 07:42 PM
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Now, I could just copy this back to you, changing the wording to make it sound like a blue pill response. But I'm (futilely) hoping that you'll realize your own argument can be used against you. Here, you're telling blue pill people that you can't generalize RP because they're strangers over the internet whom they haven't met, yet RP loves generalizing half of the global population as whores whom they've never met. You're trying to use anecdotal evidence as some genetic theme, while simultaneous…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 06:30 PM
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Exactly. Because it's common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 06:25 PM
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The exact same thing can be said about Red Pill. How do you know so much about 150,000 strangers on the internet? How do you know so much about 6.9 billion people in the real world?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 03:57 PM
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Are you seriously suggesting that "lose weight" isn't somehow common sense? What about personal hygiene? Does a person need a college course for that or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 03:54 PM
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I'm not? Where did I say anything like that? I'm just trying to tell you how ridiculous you sound when you claim that you don't ever think about the people that are being talked about on a subreddit you subscribe to. Now you're moving goalposts. I never said I don't ever think about them. In fact, you still haven't defined why that would even be a bad thing. You were implying that everyone in BP has a vendetta against incel/red pill, and I was simply telling you that you're wrong. I'm not entire…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/16 01:35 PM
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So you are subscribed to it then. Still not helping your case. Sure am. I'm also subscribed to cringepics. Doesn't mean I hate people who make others cringe. Nor do I think about them when I'm on Reddit and there's nothing going on in the sub. You're saying you don't think about the people you hate, I never said I hate them. That's your wording. you're just subscribed to a subreddit dedicated to mocking them. Why are you subscribed then if it's not something you enjoy at least on some level? Of …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 09:13 PM
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So you don't visit r/thebluepill at all? Not in the most technical sense, no. I use the Front Page option, sorted to New. So, no, technically I don't. What the fuck am I reading here? Are you saying that posters in a subreddit made specifically for people that hate the red pill sub, has nothing against them? Wait, are you saying you're red pill instead of incel? Oh, in that case, yeah, definitely look forward to making fun of you guys. /s Or are you using the blue pill term to describe literally…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 08:45 PM
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I know, I should just let it lie, but I can't help trying to give advice to them. I also like flogging dead horses, so there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 08:29 PM
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I was going to ask you the same question. The only time I think of anyone on Reddit is when I directly read something about them. It's not like I hop on Reddit with devilish glee just looking for the first opportunity to mock you guys. You folks think waaaaaaay too much of yourselves if you think BP has some sort of vendetta against you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 08:27 PM
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Because you're the one who specified incel men? So basically what you're saying is that incel men need a moment like feminism for fat acceptance that screams at everyone else to change for their benefit while not addressing their own shitty behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 08:08 PM
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Let me confirm here for you, blue pillers don't think about you either. Sure, we make fun of the extremist incel stuff, but when wake up in the morning, the last thing we're thinking of is you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 08:00 PM
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Evel Kenievel is jealous of that leap there, son.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 07:58 PM
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Wow, the amount of hamstering you have to do to believe anything you're saying...it's impressive. Way more impressive than any credit you give to women hamstering things away. Would you like me to go find the links that refute your point precisely, as written by Red Pillers themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 07:38 PM
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It's impossible to read TRP's advice on "pushing past" LMR, put it into practice, and ignore a woman who sincerely doesn't want to have sex with you. Blue pill pearl clutching about TRP turning men into rapists is utterly incompatible with actual TRP material and thus comes either from ignorance or deliberate misrepresentation. And yet, he we are, discussing pushing through LMR. I can go on TRP and read about pushing through LMR. Entire threads about it. So, if RP theory decries any methods of p…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 06:32 PM
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“Dread” is putting the fear or ‘dread’ in your wife that you have other opportunities and other options rather than being chained to her whims. Hilarious. The FIRST SENTENCE of the thread you linked says EXACTLY what multiple people have said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 05:36 PM
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Interesting. Thank you for the source (not sarcastically). I'm kinda curious what the average weight gain for people is outside of marriage. That'd be interesting to see. Regardless, let's look at the actual study: Our study is not without limitations. First, the Couples Sample is a unique subsample of heterosexual couples in Add Health and therefore is not generalizable to other populations. Second, our sample includes many respondents who are just beginning to cohabitate and enter marriage; he…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 05:34 PM
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Then define dread game for us, if everybody is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 04:41 PM
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You do realize there are a huge number of marriages that don't involve overweight people, right? And that all of those cannot possibly be RP-related, yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 04:39 PM
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It's funny, because you keep demanding non-anecdotal evidence, yet you refuse to provide any yourself. RP is rife with anecdotal evidence, which is believed because it matches your personal beliefs. Show me some science which backs up your claims, then you can stand on your soap box and demand the same from others.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 04:59 PM
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And why thinking they look good makes them feel good about themselves? What kind of question is this? Feeling like you look good can also be simply self-esteem related. If you look good, you feel good. Self-esteem rises, people become more assertive and confident. It doesn't always have anything to do with attracting mates. You can move the goalposts all you like, eventually you'll have to arrive at the end. I haven't moved the goalposts at all. I continue to repeat the same point I started with…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/16 01:13 PM
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If I was meeting a group of girls that thought thick, wool sweaters looked sexy on men, I wouldn't wear them, because I personally don't feel sexualized or masculine in a thick, wool sweater. Again, you're framing this from the perspective of a person who views every relationship in life in terms of sexual value and conflict. A more apt analogy would be that you met a group of girls who thought that muscle shirts were sexy, but you still wear thick wool sweaters because you just don't care what …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/16 03:35 PM
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And why do they want to dress that way? Why does it make them feel good? ...because they think it looks good on them? You seem to have this thought that a woman's only reason for doing anything is for sex and breeding. You must be so bullshit over all the female CEO's and professionals out there. Or do you have some way of hamstering that shit into sex and babies as well? I won't even comment on the rest of your post, the sole fact that you equate male and female sexuality means you're not even …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/16 03:32 PM
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The idea I am saying is they dress like this because they want to embody a feeling of being a sexy woman, its not directly for garnering attention. Let's look at an earlier post from you: So, in your opinion, there is no possibility that women dress that way because they want to, without wanting to deliberately incite a specific response in men? If they dress like this? no. You can see why I'm suddenly having a hard time pinning down your opinion on this matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 08:52 PM
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I think that's kind of the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 08:29 PM
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How many girls? Did you try 18-22 year olds that aren't in college? How about older than 22? Here we are again, you claiming AWALT without actually bothering to do any research. Do some girls dress like that to attract men? Of course! But to simply deny that any other reason could exist is narrow-minded and ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 07:57 PM
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I didn't tell you that you're doing fine. Quite the opposite, really. What do you want me to say? Lift, maintain frame, treat women like shit? Relationships are a smidge more complicated than that. Perhaps you should actually pay attention to why women would treat you a certain way? HAH, who am I kidding, that can't possibly be the answer, since you can't wrap it up with a little bow to make it appealing to other people with no concept of other people not being mindless drones, slaves only to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 06:43 PM
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Oh absolutely, because it shows x% of skin, it MUST be only for attracting male attention! Have you tried actually asking women their reasons as to why they dress a certain way?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 06:40 PM
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You know, it's funny. Us betas seem to get dates just fine without our sole focus in life being banging chicks. It's kinda sad that you have such low self-esteem as to think that women will love you only if you have a specific physique.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 04:06 PM
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So, in your opinion, there is no possibility that women dress that way because they want to, without wanting to deliberately incite a specific response in men? Dudes in summertime wear wifebeaters. Do they only do so to attract female attention, or may it be because it's friggin' hot out, or they like how they look in one? Is what you wear every single day solely for the purpose of attracting women?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 02:24 PM
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/r/marriedredpill
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 07:49 PM
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Then can you explain your assertion of the woman being at fault when a man finds red pill online? Because, and track with me here, there's another explanation: the man is a megalomaniacal douchebag who treats relationships like toilet paper.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 09:22 PM
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So, the only possibility in a failed relationship is the woman dun fucked up?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 09:07 PM
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And here I thought that BP'ers only get post-wall sluts. You're really making BP sound awesome. (psst. There is no "BP ideology". You have an ideology, we think it's stupid. Attributing things to "BPers" or some "BP lifestyle" is essentially saying "just act like a normal person".)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 09:00 PM
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Uh, I'm a normal (at best) looking guy. I don't have women dripping all over me or anything. I just don't take my exes' bitchyness out on the whole of the gender. You try that shit as an average looking guy, one-way ticket to Friendzone City. You don't have that luxury, she's got many higher SMV guys on her radar. So, you gotta be proactive, deploy some tactics, get her attention. Again, average. Currently in a 13-year relationship with no plans to jump ship. I didn't treat women like inferiors,…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 06:01 PM
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Ahh, did not know that. Thanks for letting me know.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 08:42 PM
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Is there a question in here somewhere? It looks like you're just trumpeting the benefits of RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 08:30 PM
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Hmm, wasn't as clear as I had hoped. I was referring to RP's tendency to treat women as inferior beings who matter less, but I'm really shitty at sports analogies, so I'm not sure that came across.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 05:26 PM
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What relationship? How much of a relationship can you build in a single sexual encounter?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 01:54 PM
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Fact is, feminism exists. About a quarter of all women support it and are actively harming men. Men have roughly every conceivable disadvantage and women have roughly zero disadvantages. The amount of hatred, selfishness, and ignorance required to support that movement considering how much it harms men is just unforgivable. [citation needed] You are falling into a dangerous trap. You hear the voice of the radical minority because they are the loudest. But they don't represent every feminist. Don…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 01:51 PM
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So, we're fools for not seeing things your way, but you still try to suggest that you don't consider yourselves better than everyone else? You are contradicting your own stance while strengthening my own. As to your analogy, the question is does the football team think they're superior because they pass before running? And do you think it's appropriate to sucker punch the opposing team when the refs aren't looking? In the end, a sports analogy isn't going to work. While RP may think they're winn…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 01:46 PM
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When you say RP is not angry, are you including the recently-found people? Because I'm pretty sure that RP specifically calls that the anger phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 08:50 PM
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Apologies, I wasn't trying to imply it was a religion. I have seen others state numerous times that RP is the only true way. Even the general terms that RP uses, like "beta" and "orbiter" suggest that they do indeed believe that RP is the right way, and everything else is wrong. I find it interesting that you used the Watts' quote. The world isn't binary, especially in regards to sociosexual methods. In fact, by reducing it into a binary with BP on one side and RP on the other, you are again sug…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 08:43 PM
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Let me ask this question in counter - if TRP is the only true way for men, why wouldn't you want to spread that? I guess if your goal was to make some sort of elitist club, that'd be one thing. But if that were true, you wouldn't have a number of subs specifically designed to teach others about the various aspects of RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 08:23 PM
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Honestly, I can't even remember precisely what the new rule is. But what I do know is that FPH was brigading other subs and insulting everyone there. It was uncool, as well as against the rules at the time. Again, I don't have any comment as to whether or not the punishment was appropriate, but they were breaking rules. The fact that they made a new rule really says nothing in this context. Well, maybe. Again, I don't remember the new rule, so I can't comment a lot on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 03:59 PM
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Oh god, you are funny. If that's the story you need to tell yourself to calm the cognitive dissonance in your head, then okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 03:39 PM
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I have no comment either way in regards to SRS, but FPH was excessively brigading and tossing insults at people. Reddit does have a punishment in place for that, but perhaps they thought the problem was too endemic of the forum, so they killed it. I'm not suggesting that it was appropriate or not, but the FPH posters who were brigading should have known they would pay a price for it at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 03:38 PM
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Yeah, single men trying to spin plates need to minimize the beta. Men in LTRs need to have a proper balance. You need to read a bit, or ask /u/TheGreasyPole. You know, you guys love to toss out the "you need to read" thing a lot. Did it ever occur to you that I have? I'm that atheist that reads the Bible before trashing it. You ignored the Democratic party comparison. Oh, are we now counting number of ignored points? I'm not sure you really want to. But, since you asked, my opinion on the Democr…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 08:29 PM
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Dread Level 1: Learn to recognize and start passing Shit Tests. See, most people would disagree with you that AWALT. Here, it's the very first thing on the list. That's kinda my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 07:59 PM
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What exactly is this supposed to be clarifying for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 06:54 PM
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Any experienced member of TRP/MRP/MMSL will tell you that a balance of alpha and beta behaviors are necessary to maintain a marriage/LTR. Even the new guys probably know that. Come on. This isn't even remotely true. RP espouses precisely zero "beta" actions. In fact, by the language used in your forum, it's quite apparent that anyone who does have a "beta" habit is most certainly an inferior person. Would PETA let you come extol the virtues of hunting? Would you expect the Democratic Party to em…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 06:05 PM
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No, the intention is to increase your wife's sexual desire for you. So you improve yourself as a man over the 18 months and try, for all that time, to increase that sexual desire in the wife with the improvements you're making "that make all the chicks wet". All through that process you are trying to create that desire. But that's not what you said. You very clearly were referring to his relationship being over and him moving on. You gave him no advice on how to actually fix his relationship. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 05:55 PM
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TRP and MRP have different focuses. You're confused. Are you trying to suggest that RP is totally ok with beta people hanging in their sub? That they embrace any line of thought other than their own as having any worth? That they don't view themselves as the only people who can see the world for what it truly is? Also, I'm going to need you to explain precisely what is RP and what is MRA in my statement. That is, in fact, giving someone a choice. He's not forcing them to do anything, simply givi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/15 09:04 PM
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From what I understand, the issue was not that it was a fetid cesspool of humanity, it was the fact that they were invading other subs and insulting people. It's okay to hate people on Reddit, as long as you keep it in your sub. (for the most part, yes there are limits, but I'm fairly certain FPH was not targeted due to censorship)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/15 08:54 PM
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One slight question here: No. It's their choice. To take the pill, or not. To throw it back up whenever they want, or not. To work on this relationship, or not. To create a new relationship, or not. But in your example, the guy has spent the last 18 months improving himself. That is all RP seems to be advocating. Not work on the relationship in any way, instead make yourself more attractive for the time when this relationship is over. They are all choices made by the reader. Once he's made his c…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/15 08:06 PM
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So first of all, your original premise is false. I cannot currently get Megan Fox. Lowering my standards isn't going to help me attract a national sex symbol, so no, we can't get anyone, nor is lowering our standards a magic ticket. We can get people we are less attracted to, maybe. There's a bit of fallacy in your argument here. You say you can't get Megan Fox, and lowering your standards won't change that. But that's not the point of lowering your standards. By lowering your standards, you wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 08:31 PM
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Oh, right. Well, I'm for it, so go right ahead!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 03:41 PM
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Uh...what were we talking about again?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 03:32 PM
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 03:30 PM
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Well....are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 03:24 PM
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Oh, Zergling, you're so predictable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 03:11 PM
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Yo. Man here. Your reality is shitty. I pity you so much, your life must be hell every minute of the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 03:05 PM
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Um, where the fuck did you pull that from? Where did I say that? Where is that my stated opinion? Men and women handle stress DIFFERENTLY, like many other things. Oh, I don't know, how about when you said: What logic and observations that you've made leads you to believe that women handle stress just as well or better than men? or Another example would be that women are less able to cope with distress and require more comfort than men. or I don't think women respond to stress as well as men. or …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 08:36 PM
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What opinion are you asking me to clarify? This has been going on for a while. Some of these points place the burden of proof on you. Not an answer. You know what opinion I refer to, since we have been arguing about it this entire time. But okay, I'll spell it out: I am referring to your opinion that men respond to stress better than women. Nope! The second sentence of the first comment in the TRP thread concerning your "source" is: "If that is the case, I have to disagree." It is a debate, not …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 06:23 PM
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Please show any amount of proof, however small, for your claim that your opinion is true. Please explain to me how the difference between a "discussion" and "source" when the discussion is small, old, and in no way refutes any of the points in the "source" article. Please explain to me how you reconcile the statement "women are expected to assume adult responsibility" and "women are the oldest children in the house". If you respond to nothing else, please respond to those questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 05:07 PM
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You posted ZERO from that conversation. Okay, here you go: [–]2 Mredpillschool[S] 13 points 2 years ago This article is so high density, it needs to be on EVERYBODY's reading list. [–]zionController 4 points 2 years ago This is red pill bread and butter. Always needing game. If you pull a woman up to your level, she will then use hypergamy to monkey bar to the next guy who might be better than you. Its important to always maintain an edge. Embrace your masculinity and never buy into the 'soul-ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 04:13 PM
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You aren't listening. "Commentary and source aren't the same thing." I don't really care about the source. It isn't TRP. I've linked the text of Mein Kampf into threads before for the sake of discussion--I'm not a nazi. If you want to talk about what was said IN TRP, I'm interested. Jesus, I really don't get this. The link is to a post on TRP, that links to an article, that is permalinked on the sidebar. If you think that's somehow not a tenet of your ideology, then maybe you shouldn't permalink…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 02:06 PM
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Uh. See, when I say "not sure what you're trying to say", I mean that your wording is unclear. If you don't play connect the dots on your own ideas, then the only reason you're here is to make personal attacks and call people stupid. As the person making a statement, you need to make sure your audience can understand the point you're trying to make. If you can't do that, then all I can assume is that you're unable to provide any sort of argument to my statements, and are attempting to deflect by…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 02:02 PM
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So, no studies? Just your opinion. Ah well, I don't know why I bother, the conversations always end up this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 06:45 PM
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Because there's a line* limit on posts... In regards to the "source" material being the Daily Mail: She does not point out, however, that the Daily Mail's article she is referring to is cited by "peer reviewed research," done by a feminist, no less, and Angry Harry merely read the research and translated what she said. Furthermore, Angry Harry has multiple degrees, a Ph D. in Psychology and the others I believe are related to childhood education - making him extremely qualified to critique the r…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 06:06 PM
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From the article that the link points to: but hers is a reason of very narrow limitations. This is why women remain children all their lives, for they always see only what is near at hand, cling to the present, take the appearance of a thing for reality, and prefer trifling things to the most important. The difference between men and women in maturity, however, is that while females mature earlier in life, they also stop maturing at around the age of eighteen The very lack of preappointed trains…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 06:06 PM
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I'm not saying it's true because it's my opinion. It happens to be my opinion and true. What proof do you have that it's true? What logic and observations that you've made leads you to believe that women handle stress just as well or better than men? (I feel like have to specify that I'm generalizing in the same way as saying men are physically stronger than women since you don't seem all that sensible so there you go.) I don't have any. See, here's how debate works - you make a claim, and you b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 05:21 PM
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Truth and opinion are not mutually exclusive, genius. Of course they aren't. But if you're asserting something as truth because it's your opinion, then you're an idiot. You drew a parallel between my attitude and that of an honest rapist. And now you've somehow taken exception to my sarcastic reaction. You're ridiculous. Nope, good try. I drew a parallel from the attitude of "it's okay I'm an asshole because I'm honest about it" and a more extreme version which highlights the ridiculousness of y…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 03:50 PM
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I know that's not the post you're talking about. Here you are, trying to make some claim that "RP expects women to assume adult responsibility", and yet on the sidebar, the goddamn sidebar man, is a link with a title that says the exact opposite. How do you reconcile that? ProTip: Saying something permalinked on the sidebar shouldn't be taken completely serious is hamstering of the ultimate degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 03:35 PM
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dismiss my opinion as I said. But it's the truth. I think you're going to have to do some creative redefining of the word "truth" here. But go ahead, hit me. Ah... likening me to a rapist now. Lovely. Please. If you're too obtuse to recognize that I used rapist as an analogue to asshole in your comment, and not a direct reference to you, then...well, then I guess that explains just about all of your comments thusfar.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 01:34 PM
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Cherry pick me that rant again from the anger-phase boy. You mean the rant that's in the Red Pill 101 post that is linked on the sideboard? I love the hamstering I see from some RP people. It's quite amazing. I thought SJWs and femnazis were good at completely avoiding things like the truth and reality, but you guys might take the cake here. edit: sorry, it's the "Women, the Most Responsible Teenager in the House" post. My bad. But yeah, obviously some fringe extremist RP belief, right? Things p…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 01:32 PM
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I said blue pill types. That includes men that I consider friends. Examples of the subtle infantilization include the assumption that women are less responsible for their drunken decisions than men. Another example would be that women are less able to cope with distress and require more comfort than men. I am speaking of my male friends here. "Blue pill types." It's a generalization, sure. I hope you realize that blue pill "supports" absolutely 0% of the crap that you're listing here. How do I n…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 09:01 PM
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Blue pill types do it more subtly. Uh...huh? Seriously man, you really need to get a grasp of the side you're defending. Or not, in this case, since you apparently agree that TRP thinks women are children. Maybe you can show me some examples of this negative behavior towards women that is apparently pervading the BP sub? I don't agree with TRP about women's ability to reason. I will say, however, that it has been consistently my experience that women are more easily overcome by emotion. Unequivo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 08:12 PM
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They treat women like children. S'cuse me? Pretty sure that's a very clearly stated tenet of RP, that women are the "oldest child in the house". "Hi, I'm not RP, but fuck those BP guys!"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 07:43 PM
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Studies show that women's pair-bonding ability is diminished when they have a lot of partners, but men's isn't. Can you show me these studies?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 05:14 PM
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Oh well, I was hoping that you wouldn't concede so easily, but there you go. Try to be less confrontational, maybe the conversation will flow a little better for you next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 03:57 PM
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A couple things. I'm not entirely certain what you think that study "proves". I find it a very interesting study into the complex beast that is human attraction. I also read a few others, and males are affected by high fertility as well. But I'm not sure what you're trying to say by posting it here. All I wanted was to see this study. I couldn't find the link in the article, so I asked. The only reason I was being antagonistic was because you opened our conversation with insults, and it went dow…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 07:36 PM
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Fair. I apologize, I shouldn't have stereotyped you there. I'm curious, however, if you would agree if Red Pill in general gets validation from sexual activity, and if that would make them hypocritical in their treatment of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 06:31 PM
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Not the same for women who have had sex the same number of times but with many different men. That is...like the exact definition of slut-shaming. I've heard it directly from women that the sexual act isn't merely a physical one. I immediately lose interest in a woman who treats it as purely physical because of my experience. That is the what I know to be a slut. So, let me understand this correctly - you have sex with a ton of women, but your partner should have only had sex with a few. You vie…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 05:56 PM
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Nothing yet, I don't reddit on the weekends.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 05:48 PM
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First wave feminists have probably died out by now, and Germany's most important and prolific second wave feminist is still in charge of the paper. While I would consider anyone pointing fingers directly at men because men bad really isn't second wave, I'm not sure there's really any point to determining a difference anymore. It does seem some of the more moderate feminists (2.5 wave, essentially) are moving over to that side. Such a shame. That's why I added the wikipedia entry: Since its found…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 05:34 PM
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Then why did you link to another study?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 05:29 PM
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No answer, eh? Figures, I still haven't gotten a straight answer out of any RP'er about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 05:28 PM
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Jesus christ man, did you even read the study? The study shows that men are more attracted to women during ovulation. Not some other way around. Men. Like Women. Who are ovulating. Period. Next time, try to verify your source.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 09:03 PM
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Well, I guess I'm stupid. Could you show me where, exactly? I've looked it over numerous times, and I don't see a link to the study. edit: still can't find the study. Did, however, pull up the November 2012 (you did realize this is from '12, didn't you?) edition of Hormones & Behavior. Perhaps you can point to the correlating study that is used for the basis of this article you're quoting?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 08:42 PM
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I want to believe you. But I still have problems. Even if you're right, why did they choose to call it "dread" game? Outside of one archaic and unused definition, there is no positive spin on "dread" in any fashion. If it were such a benign action, why choose a clearly negative term to describe it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 08:31 PM
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Now show me the study.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 07:50 PM
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Uh, what? Psychology research knows not to poll a very small age range and then make sweeping generalizations about the entire gender. Also, did you even read the fact that the guy who did the study says it's not usable in a generalized sense? Just gonna ignore that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 02:22 PM
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I.E., "I can't actually formulate an argument against you, so I'll just say you're the one sucking here." And I'm not pissed off. I'm actually calmly pointing out the errors in your logic. There's no point in trying to "take down Red Pill", because you're all zealots, and you'll just hamster the truth away, until all that's left is your "biotruths". Besides, at this point, you're not even addressing the points I'm making, so there's really little use of continuing this conversation. So, as my mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 02:21 PM
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Cool. Both of these stories are anecdotal at best. Neither of them say anything at all. That's kinda been my point the entire time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 08:39 PM
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I'm not looking for "accuracy" How could you possibly suggest a course of action without actually knowing what's going on? Saying, "You should have made a better choice" is not a solution. It's just rationalizing and justifying what is happening - it doesn't make any difference. I want results, not reasons or excuses. I wasn't suggesting a solution. I was countering the idea that "dread game" is the appropriate response in this situation. But, let's look at the more common situation - what if it…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 08:33 PM
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You were accusing me of being biased and automatically blaming the wife. It's true. I pulled a possibility straight from my ass. "I didn't say she was. I said she could be. And since you can't refute it, I'm not wrong." What does that link have to do with me? Or this conversation? Now you're just avoiding actually answering my questions. "could be". Yes, could be. I have a saying, that nothing in life is simple. Given that I've been very vocal and upfront about my lack of knowledge past that one…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 07:49 PM
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As opposed to bpers blaming the husband for being abusive, the automatic doubt of his story, the flippant assumption that the wife is miserable despite being described as enthusiastically seeking sex from the husband... Yeah, perhaps I did lose some patience for being neutral on this story. No, actually. I assume nothing. Past the one paragraph description of the experience in question, I know nothing about either of them. What I do know is that this is the sort of exaggerated sit-com level tomf…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 07:02 PM
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"So you're horribly depressed because you have needs which aren't being met. Have you considered not having needs?". At one point he floated the idea of trying to get me a libido lowering drug. He was 100% on my wife's side of everything. Really just toxic and not good at all. Seeing him messed with my mind. It almost made me believe that sexlessness was the normal state for a marriage and that I was some kind of deviant for wanting to fuck my own wife. Are you seriously trying to suggest that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 06:45 PM
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Uh...pretty sure it's more like "that sort of language and suggestions don't normally come from marriage counselors because they're completely and utterly terrible, and exactly what I would expect someone to say if they're strawmanning an argument against counseling." Sure, you can't make a call against every marriage counselor, but in general, they aren't out to destroy your marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 06:05 PM
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I'm so sorry, bot! Please forgive me! :(
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 02:40 PM
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Monday morning quarterbacking at it's finest. I guess? Your assessment of the situation is about as accurate. Because you're not the female in this situation, you can't claim some 100% certainty of anything. Of course this isn't completely accurate in every single situation, all I know of that situation is what you've told me. Nothing is ever as simple as that in life. But since you've only given me a ridiculously narrow view of the situation, I have to guess the rest. It happens in many areas o…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 02:32 PM
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What if you hadn't noticed shit going wrong before you got married because shit wasn't going wrong before you got married! One fact of life is that people change, sometimes dramatically, over the course of life. You either find ways to adapt, or you lose. I'd rather start with trying to adapt before just jumping straight to "lose." Then you're with the wrong person. Seriously, if someone changes so drastically as to suddenly feel no interest in things they used to feel interest in, then the firs…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 08:37 PM
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See my response to this here. Interesting. I do want to point out one thing though - if you hadn't noticed shit going wrong before you got married, it isn't going to be any better to try to hold on to said relationship. I love how all the BPers are so concerned about TRPers "hurting women" but then turn around and advocate destroying that woman's relationship, family, livelihood, and future. Apparently, you can be as destructive as you want as long as you don't hurt a poor woman's feeeeeelz... U…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 05:35 PM
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While you can make an argument that it would be worse post-graduation, another argument can be made that it would be better. Because I don't know about you, but when I was in college, I was a fucking idiot. Now that I've grown older, I know what I want, and am less tempted to look for "other options".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 05:26 PM
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And when that fails to motivate your partner? ...get a new partner? And when being "open and honest" gets a "oh get over it, you big baby" or a "yeah, yeah, I know...I'll try to change..." or a "what's the big deal? why are you pressuring me? why are you so difficult?" or whatever? If you're hearing those things, it's because either: You've got a shitty partner You're not talking with your partner, you're talking at them There is a reason that they say that talk is cheap, and that actions speak …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 03:56 PM
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2 things: Did nobody else notice that this was a study of undergraduates? No other age range was included. So, this study says a lot about undergraduates, and not much else. Murray added that the self-reported nature of the study could have also skewed the results. "It has been theorized that men may be less inclined to admit that they have low desire as this is considered against male gender norms and masculinity," she said. "Thus, it may be that men are not accurately reporting their level of …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 03:18 PM
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Okay, still doesn't quite say why you chose the word "dread". If you are referring to putting a woman deliberately in a situation that would cause her to "dread" losing her man, then that's pretty shitty and exactly what I'm talking about. values himself in the relationship and is actually interested in being able to credibly maintain and enforce his boundaries Yeah, I do that too. It's called talking to my partner. Being open and honest. I mean, if that doesn't work for you and only forced sedu…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 02:28 PM
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Says you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 08:11 PM
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Do you...possibly have an english translation of the article? Because this is what translate.google gives me: The suicide rate, so I stopped at my radio and TV marathon since the disaster in the French Alps, is four times as high as for women in men. The Lufthansa could therefore significantly reduce the risk that their pilots abusing the aircraft to suicide and murder a lot of times, with each woman she trained as a pilot. So...I actually can't tell what they're saying there. :P That's the poin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 08:09 PM
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They aren't, that's why TRP exists. Men were told being nice to women would get them laid when they were boys. When they realized this was a lie, they had to learn the hard way how it's really done. Now idiots like Dr Nerdlove and other feminists are telling men they should become feminists/allies and they too will get laid. Society lies to everyone. Really? Because I remember being told to be nice so that others would be nice to me. Also, I personally haven't heard the "become a feminist and ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 07:55 PM
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So, of all the words in the english dictionary, someone felt that "dread" was the appropriate term for this self-empowering, completely healthy practice of increasing your value as a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 07:50 PM
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The "dread" that gets "instilled" in his partner is a by-product. If this were true, why the hell would you call it "dread" game? Why not call it "frame" game?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 06:32 PM
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Besides, I have yet to see a single influental MRA/manosphere/redpill/whatever publication call for denying women the right to vote. Why do they need to be influential? And how do you classify influential? If something is seen on multiple threads in TRP, is that influential? Feminists? Anyone remembers the pretty recent incident where the pilot crashed an entire plane into a mountain because he was depressed or something like that? Well, about that - the leading feminist magazine in Germany publ…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 04:45 PM
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I'm a dude, and I'd love to be provided for. I mean, who wouldn't? I can sit around all day and eat bonbons with the best of 'em.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 08:39 PM
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None. I sadly have met a few third wave feminists in real life, and those are basically the entire membership of "blue pill". That's an interesting statement to make. Kinda curious how you got to that opinion, but it's not really that relevant. Let me just inform you real quick here - you're wrong. Saying "you're seemingly all third wavers and I think you have equally stupid ideas and societal outlooks" is hardly over-exaggeration, let alone a terrible over-exaggeration. Cool. Show me some links…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 07:45 PM
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Which feminism? First-wave feminism, which was mostly about fighting the legal system for equal rights? Second-wave feminism, which focused more on social inequality, and bringing into light the plights that women can face in our society? Or do you mean third-wave feminism, which can be encapsulated in the very short statement "all men must die"? Or would you be more referring to the counter-wave of third feminism, people who are focused on equality for everybody, and might take some offense at …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 06:13 PM
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Yes really. People who care enough to join a sub that is devoted to trashing redpillers tend to come from a certain camp. Okay, if you insist. Given that red pill seems to only be able to see black-and-white in any issue, I obviously am a man-hating feminist beta who...why would betas make a subreddit to make fun of RP again? Aren't we too "beta" to do that? It's not for nothing that the PPD inquiry resulted in roughly half of all bluepillers holding feminist beliefs. I know, it's fucking weird,…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 05:06 PM
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Not really, no. Blue pill (especially the sub) is about making fun of guys who like to treat women like shit. That's it. There's no underlying philosophy or anything. We think red pill is ridiculous, that's about the only unifying factor there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 04:09 PM
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That's true. I really only focus on BP people because they are actively trying to push the rubbish that they say is the truth or factual into society and the public consciousness. I've never met a BP person who wasn't a third wave feminist. You do realize that "blue pill" isn't a thing, right? How many "blue pill" people have you met in real life? And yeah, you're quite clearly coming off as "red pill", considering your terribly over-exaggerated depiction of what you think "blue pill" actually i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 03:02 PM
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Is this where I get to use the old redpill fallback "you're an exception"?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 04:05 PM
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I might not be understanding your point. You seem to be saying "well, sleeping with a lot of women is tougher, so that's why we do that than be afraid of the dark." I just want to confirm that's what you mean. Please let me know if not. I'm having a hard time responding to that. Do you realize that it takes any legitimacy away from you that you might have had? The idea that if, say, you decided walking on four limbs was the toughest thing, that you would be advocating that now?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 09:13 PM
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Given that the human brain contains a near-infinite number of possible combinations of neurons, add that to the fact that personal experiences are different for every person, even if they experience the same thing, I can only come to the conclusion that no, no I do not think there are any near-universal psychological traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 07:42 PM
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Fair enough. I can agree with that. Then why doesn't RP advocate fear of the dark? How come the only behavioral trait they want to rekindle is sexual drive? To say that men are programmed for sleeping with many women, and that women are backstabbing mooches, I would then question why the only behavioral trait that RP wants to bring back is the one they specifically espouse. From what I understand, and I could be wrong, but the concept behind it is that as men, we are programmed to sleep around, …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 03:24 PM
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I'm asking you. You are the one making the statement, show me the work where it shows causation instead of correlation. "Statements made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." edit: put the two c words in the wrong order
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 03:17 PM
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I live in New Hampshire, in the Tri-state area. I lived in Northeast Maine for a bit. Most of my formative years were in Southern California. I have certainly not seen anywhere near enough women like that to justify it as a blanket statement. At all. Are there women out there like that? Sure, nobody's arguing that. But trying to take that experience and using it to classify women as less than human is nowhere near supported by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 09:33 PM
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Ah, the Two Wrongs Make a Right defense. That'll hold up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 09:28 PM
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Because the biological drives of men have very little bearing on what a woman wants out of a relationship? This point proves absolutely nothing. "Women don't want their men sleeping around, therefore men must not have the biological impetus to sleep around"... Makes no sense. Not quite. My point was that your situation was ridiculous, and really didn't factor anything in other than the male input in this situation. Again, that has absolutely nothing to do with my point. I'm talking about what me…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 06:01 PM
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I dunno. Is it correlation or causation?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 02:44 PM
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Of course I showed up. Because you're wrong. If I'm the exception, why doesn't society support it? Why aren't there more women out there who are totally OK with their SO sleeping around? And before you say it, who would have deliberately changed society to castrate men? Why would they have? Your analogy is flawed. If you can find 100 women you know who would be happy with that arrangement, I'd go play the lottery that day. See, you're working on the presumption that all men are solely focused on…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 02:44 PM
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Really. That's strange, because I don't feel some primal urge to sleep in higher elevations to avoid predators, sleep with multiple partners, or kill someone because they're threatening my alpha status. I think the problem is that you're coming at this the wrong way. The proper way to study this would be to see a behavioral trait in early man, then determine its evolutionary advantage/disadvantage. Instead, you're taking your moden day wish to treat women poorly, and looking back for some confir…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 02:36 PM
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Uh no, I wouldn't because I'm not some jackass who thinks that they're superior to half of the population of the world simply because of their sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 02:30 PM
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I think we're in a misunderstanding here. I understand what the evolutionary rationale was for men to feel this way 10,000 years ago. My point is that civilization itself has evolved these traits by removing many of the problems that these traits were designed to deal with. Hence, if people make the argument that "it's biological", why don't they exhibit any other behavioral traits from early man? The desire for mating and procreation is certainly part of humanity. The drive was much higher back…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 08:17 PM
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Sure, but this isn't a conversation about how much or how little any specific man wants to have sex. The thing I'm questioning is the stated "biological drive" that men have for sleeping with as many different women as possible, rather than finding one and having a ton of sex with that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 07:39 PM
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It's not that that RPers want multiple "casual" partners. It's that >men want multiple casual partners. Uh, I don't. Guys are hardwired for variety. Uh, no we aren't. If they could live like Genghis Khan or the leader of a cult with 10 wives, you bet they would. Uh no, I wouldn't. I'm a little confused by this "biological imperative" that you're bringing up. I don't remember seeing anywhere that scientists have plumbed the depths of the human genome and found out that dudes wanna bang as many ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 07:21 PM
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Oh. Well there you go. I wasn't planning on having kids anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 09:36 PM
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What, then, should we think about the mods who talk about women the same way? I'm assuming you don't consider them "noobs".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 09:33 PM
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Both of these are shitty odds games, and so I'm generally pretty dissatisfied. I wish I chose to focus on looks above all else and could make the choice to change that, but I really tried and it just didn't work. Well, you know what you want, so go for it. I don't think settling is ever good. Yeah, it may be a longshot, but hey, I'm with somebody right? (badum-tsh) I know now we're just getting into ridiculous hypotheticals, but I would do it the same was as psychology experiments that study att…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 08:06 PM
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The happiest I've ever been was when I was with a skinny blonde who had the body of a model. She was kind of awkward, not experienced in bed, and although we were definitely at least like decent friends, there wasn't a ton of emotional intimacy. But fucking her was the only sex I've ever had where I was actually satisfied and wouldn't want to change anything about her. After that, I had a 2.5 year relationship with a girl who was probably like a 7 - she was way better in bed, we were best friend…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 05:43 PM
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I am kind of resentful that more thought isn't put into engineering the human race so people don't have to live the life of an average looking person, but I know that most people probably disagree with that. This is where one would say "rabble rabble rabble Nazi rabble". The Nazi party were big proponents of eugenics, it's kind of a touchy subject to most people. In no way am I calling you a Nazi, I just wanted to explain why some people push back at that idea. The point being, everyone is picky…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 03:29 PM
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I see what he's saying, I was more questioning how he got there.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 03:04 PM
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That's not helpful at all. It's a list of posts that use the word "biotroof". I was more looking for an example where RP uses a heuristic, and BP dismisses it as unfounded and unethical.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 03:00 PM
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W...what? How does that response at all relate to the post? You completely jumped from "the sexes blame each other" (which I don't argue with, some in fact do that) to "we need eugenics". Perhaps you can explain in more detail exactly how you got there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 09:48 PM
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Well, sure, but can you tell me what arguments BP makes for them to be unfounded or unethical?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 09:21 PM
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There's a lot of BP dismissal of seduction heuristics as unfounded and unethical Curious, in what way are they unfounded and unethical? This is a serious question, I have not seen any critical responses to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 08:55 PM
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And yet, when people say they want to get married, or are looking forward to marriage, for some reason they're not talking about the contract side of things. But when you bring in the marriage certificate, that turns the powers over to the courts if things go south, and the courts are usually (absolutely not always) more willing to side with the woman. The benefits that you get from that contract when things go right does not make the risk worth it if things go wrong. You make it sound like the …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 07:45 PM
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avoidance of criticism; See, here's where things get confusing. Are you somehow suggesting that Dread game and negging are not, in fact, perceived as criticism by the target of your advances? In fact, I actually agree with most of that. Perhaps I'm missing something, but to me it basically says "don't be a dick". Which I do believe is exactly what BP says. Just not entirely certain how this is...well, anything. You haven't really clarified your argument. Is this pointing at BP and saying "told y…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 04:43 PM
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To you. It's a legal contract to you. Not to the majority of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 02:55 PM
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Man, there are some seriously jaded views in here. The benefits of marriage? Marriage. While there are a few tangible benefits, people these days don't get married because of them. The reason most people get married isn't tangible, it can't be measured, and has nothing to do with frame, SMV, or "buying up". Marriage in this day and age is a declaration of love to your partner. That you will stay with them through thick and thin, better or worse. It is a symbol of the love they feel, and a way to…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 03:32 PM
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Why don't you? Just copy my arguments, I have to go home now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 10:00 PM
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For instance, see this Buss paper: http://homepage.psy.utexas.edu/HomePage/group/busslab/pdffiles/sexdifferencesinhuman.pdf Male preference for chastity is the most variable of all the characteristics, but it exists in some level in each culture sampled. On page 11, 3.5 Chastity: No previous sexual intercourse: Cultures in this study vary tremendously in the value placed on this mate characteristic. After that is a bunch of comparisons between nations. On Page 12, same header: A few subjects eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 09:57 PM
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Hypothetically: a study is done that conforms to your desired methodology. The results tend towards the same implication: number of prior partners looks like a serious risk factor in a mate. What would your reaction to that study be? I would agree with it, and this debate would stop. I still wouldn't agree that it's a major factor, a different study would have to deal with that, but for the purposes of this conversation, it would suffice. And that's all most people are looking for. There's a cro…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 09:28 PM
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So, if you are a 6 woman who's had a few sexual encounters with 10 men and you settle down with a 6 man for marriage, you don't see how that 6 woman would be disappointed after experiencing the absolutely best? You make it sound like the most important facet of a relationship is the partner's physical make-up. While physical make-up may be one of the earliest attractors, it is not in any sense the key indicator of whether or not people will get married and stay happy. Note: Not only did the stud…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 09:15 PM
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But it doesn't. That's the issue. I could list any number of issues with this study. Not double-blind, tiny participant size, too wide of a hypothesis, too many leading questions, that sort of thing. Sure, this study may say something about prior sexual relations and marriage. But it also says any other number of things, simply because it's too generalized. I'm pretty sure you could make a racial argument about sex, or income, or religion, or any of the other questions they asked. The only reaso…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 09:04 PM
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When I say facets, I don't mean any little fact about a person. Now, if someone's scared of dogs and their partner own 5 dogs, then yeah, that's obviously a factor. Otherwise, it probably doesn't have much play in relationship decisions. The number of sexual partners you've had says a lot about shaping who you are in terms of your relationship to your spouse. See, here's where we really start to disagree. I have yet to see any solid proof that prior sexual encounters have any effect on your rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 09:00 PM
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Sure, but what about the million other facets? They're certainly not meeting the criteria of proving a causal relationship, they're pointing out an interesting tidbit, and others are taking that and saying it means what they believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 08:46 PM
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I've never heard any person - man or woman - say, "I don't really hang out with guys. I just get along better with women." Well now you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 08:43 PM
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Nah, she's an idiot too. I think the problem is that this study is attempting to take a single facet of an issue, then applying it to all relationships. Sure, there may be some truth in it. However, there's more to relationships than how many dudes your wife slept with before you. You can't boil something so complicated as relationships and marriage into a single, or even a handful, of points. edit: wrong word used, sounded hostile
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 08:37 PM
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Well, can you explain it to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 05:10 PM
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Which statement? The one that all civilizations were patriarchies? I stand by it. You can make a correction that one or two civilizations was in fact a matriarchy, but let's not be too liberal with what we consider a civilization. So you're deciding what is or is not a civilization? Interesting. Yes it does. You list a patriarchy, and compare it to the matriarchy. We will investigate nothing in vacuum. This conversastion was NOT about which was better. I was refuting your claim of NO matriarchie…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 03:26 PM
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Pointing out a list of patriarchies adds nothing to this conversation. I have, in fact, proven that matriarchies did exist, and you agreed with me. Therefore, your statement is false. But let me reply to some things: Now a Roman Emperor said that Germans are ruled by women. This is the only source we have. Let's find out more about Germanic tribes. Once again, wikipedia. Ahh, I see, there's two schools of thought working here, based upon translations of Tacitus. I guess we can agree to disagree …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 09:53 PM
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Oh, are we using wiki? Okay then! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matriarchy A few points if you don't feel like reading it: Roman Empire Tacitus noted in his Germania that in "the nations of the Sitones a woman is the ruling sex."[60][g] and China The Mosuo culture, which is in China near Tibet, is frequently described as matriarchal.[63] The Mosuo themselves often use this description and they believe it increases interest in their culture and thus attracts tourism. The term matrilineal is someti…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 08:49 PM
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Why were all civilizations patriarchies? If I proved you wrong, would you simply say it's a woman in charge, but still a patriarchy? Just curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 08:01 PM
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