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Your post is tagged as debate. Anyone disagreeing with you can reply. This is going to be a shocker to the blk pill and red pill people who seem to believe we’re in a dark ages for romantic relationships but Case in point, one can believe "we’re in a dark ages for romantic relationships" and not be Red or Black pill. Why exclude them from the conversation?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 03:22 PM
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I don't think views about marriage and dating are homogenous in Red/Black Pill communities. The "factual" description of relationships formation and dynamics is, but normative views and prescriptions are not. But even if I granted you that point, the person you replied to is flaired as "Some Secret Mystery Pill Man". Allow them to have their own opinions. Edit: typos
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:30 PM
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You only included stats about marriage though. What counts as a relationship? I think that's (part) of their point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:19 PM
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That's kinda sad tbh. I couldn't be with someone that 'get' none of mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 01:19 AM
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these are hard concepts for children I disagree. Children get these things quite easily. It is adults that like to insist on just world fallacies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 04:24 PM
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Throughout history That is not factually true. Dating as we know it and marriage for love are recent inventions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 04:22 PM
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Want for what though? For ONS hot is enough and has always been.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 11:49 PM
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So I don't know Bumble, but I assume you have a profile in there where you can state your interest, hobbies and let some of your personality shine. If you do, getting detailed messages is not that hard. You just have to have enough hooks in there for that to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 10:16 AM
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The hypocrisy of you assuming how others use of 'respect' while being annoyed when it's done to you is astounding. "but men's idea of respect is hierarchical in nature" You even keep going. Can't make this up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 05:36 PM
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It means she’s willing to tolerate it. Isn't this addressed there?: look at you being bothered that he's lying to get sex and not being bothered that she is lying that she wants sex. If it's all liars in the end, it doesn't matter at that point. They all play a game, one win and one loses.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:33 PM
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It's more than money. Especially if you have enough of it. You can never get time back, every second wasted is gone forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:23 PM
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Confident people don’t rely on external validation. is off topic. The discussion was about social perception and whether confidence plus actual skill reliably elicits a positive response from others. The point being made was that, in many cases, it actually elicits a negative response. Your reply doesn’t really address that argument. Also, while confident people may not rely on external validation, almost everyone relies on social perception. If you’re perceived as arrogant and therefore unfit f…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 07:19 PM
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Damn! I am saving this! What a gem :D
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 01:26 AM
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Correlation ≠ Causation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 08:00 PM
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This may be the first PPD thread where I actually learned something. Well done OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 05:18 PM
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Tbh, I wouldn't call loving someone for their kindness and tenderness more wholesome than loving them for their money. They are both on the same level of something you can hope to directly benefit from and not something you just happen to appreciate even if they could be to your detriment.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 10:51 AM
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I think vast majority of men that "don't want to get married" just don't want to marry HER specifically. What do we mean by "don't want" here? For many men, marriage in itself is a neutral or negative. For many it's a social expectation that come with some not so pleasant duties and financial costs (Look up traditional wedding/requirements in many Asian and African countries). In the West, you have the distinct impression (real or otherwise) that the institution benefit women more and there you …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 07:14 PM
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And for these guys, your comments are fair I guess but I don't think there are that many (even in sub). Note that: "i provide so she has to put out" is clearly transactional but the other comment could be ok depending on context. Anyway, I think we mostly agree on the substance of the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 05:16 PM
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I have yet to meet a person (even on reddit) who believe that letting a man pay for a coffee makes a woman a gold digger. On the other hand, there are social expectations that men pay for dates in many place and these expectations have been abused by small minority of women to go to restaurant or others activities for free with men they never had any interest in. Experiencing this just once, or hearing about it from a friend will put someone's guard up. From there, the problem is not that every …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 04:19 PM
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Its also funny to me how many men on here are constantly going on about gold diggers but have no issues paying for it anyway. It doesn't make sense how you can demonise women that want your money and you arent really desired and then turn around and go spend money freely and dont be desired. If women want to have your money you are against it but if you want to give them money you are suddenly all for it? It doesn't make sense. It's pretty simple. Friendships and other voluntary relationships ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 03:22 PM
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ting the pro-life movement directly connects to men’s rights. In it itself it doesn't but electing those that support/are part of it may get some men other things that they want such as conservatives policies. If they are indifferent towards the rights of women, there are no reasons not to vote for these people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 07:48 PM
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You can vote because your care for some issues and not other. Let's say the choice is between A) getting something one want + you getting killed Or B) getting something one does not want. That person could chose option A) by indifference towards your life or death without holding any kind of malice towards you. That's why some say the opposite of Love is indifference.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 07:32 PM
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Nah, they are generally right (in the context of dating). There are some women with whom it works wonders but they are small minority that you have to look for carefully.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 08:23 PM
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Yes, it is like a knife, a rope or nuclear physics. They are amoral. You can use them in many ways including to commit murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 12:58 AM
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You would not be paying for "other people's mistakes" but for a fellow citizen education and development like with school. The difference you draw is not in essence but only in framing imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 07:46 PM
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Your tax still pays for public schools. What's the argument really?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 07:41 PM
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None of that has to be happening here. There is no implying anything only the thirst for knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 12:09 AM
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I actually took the the time to look all five of your links. "Are you cheating?" is not a loaded question because it doesn't presuppose that you did anything. It is not like "what was the weather like when you cheated on me?" which does contain the assumption that cheating occurred at least once and seeks further information based on that assumption. Your second link flew over my head. Not my type of science so I cannot fairly assess whether it support your claim that "Are you cheating?" is an a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 11:59 PM
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you’re intentionally being insulting by insinuating that I’m not as smart as she is If you cannot grasp that concept you likely are not. I do enjoy the burn though which negates pretty much the rest of your answer. The real problem here is when feelings prevents you from looking at things objectively and/or you let them guide your actions unquestioned. Just because you "feel" something does not mean that feeling maps with reality one to one . Being able to take a step back and recognized that is…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 10:24 PM
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it ends up coming off as an accusation (and an offensive one at that). What does "coming off" means here? We are talking about peoples feelings and not 1st order facts right? That's precisely the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:36 PM
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No. The problem here is that your are confusing feelings about 1st order facts with those facts themselves. Seeking objective knowledge about whether someone did or did not do something is not the same as accusing them of doing that thing. It's not even difficult to understand. I could probably explain it to my 4 year old niece.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:32 PM
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No, it is a question. "You are cheating on me". Is an accusation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:14 PM
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It's not an accusation though. It's a verification.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:07 PM
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The two statements are not actually not contradictory. It could very well be that a) College education only decreases the chances of your spouse leaving you if you’re marrying a man. And b) College-educated women are far more likely to remain married long-term than women with only a high school education.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 08:18 PM
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Also wouldn’t expect her to pay child support or be in the child’s life whatsoever. Why not? Do you also oppose child support in case someone does not want to be a father?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 04:29 PM
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And if you're still going to do it, then you just have to own the dysfunction that comes with it. Trying to push a cultural conversation into insulating you from the social costs of undermining the foundation of your life long commitment is a waste of time. I don't see why that would be the case. Plenty of social norms got changed. not so long ago Obama opposed gay marriage...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 03:03 AM
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Disagreed. Realising you don't know things is the first step to knowledge. Furthermore, the upper bound could already be so low that the OP decides it is not realistic without having to "run the experiment" all the way. Finally, it is possible to obtain estimates (educated guesses) by making assumptions/models that you could calibrate/validate using data from previous generations. Plenty of things to be done.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 02:25 PM
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Disagreed. It's actually exactly as clever as I think it is unless you are from the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 02:09 PM
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You don't have to make any assumptions. Stick to facts. You do not know until they are dead. Edit to add: You do actually know for the one that broke up so you can get un upper bound.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 01:59 PM
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It is not enough that they stay together. They have to do so until one of them is dead. Unless you are very old you cannot juge how likely that is within your generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 01:11 PM
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Unless one person is dead in each of the couples you mentioned, their relationship were not life long (by definition).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 01:08 PM
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But what can you change You can change yourself and you approach the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 09:54 PM
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Because people's perception are unreliable. People are full of cognitive biasses and most them are unable to free themselves of them. That's (in part) why most people suck at math.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:30 PM
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OK, you just used a bunch of words, but I don't know if you have your own personal meanings for any of them, so I literally have no idea what you just said. This likely the best answer I have seen on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 04:01 PM
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It is not the man that is single, only the father.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 03:54 PM
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You can never know for certain whether you have seen someone with "all their guards down", therefore you are always running on assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 01:22 AM
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You have been diagnosed with cancer. You have it now. What then?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 08:15 PM
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It's an option, we were not talking about food.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 11:14 PM
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No. That would be the case if she had proof of being married happily for 50 years. But as it stands, she doesn't have to "buy it".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 09:13 AM
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Your problem is that you do not distinguish difficulty from complexity. Something can be simple but difficult or complex but easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 01:54 AM
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But she should not project her tastes as everyone's standards. That's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 09:28 AM
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Is it though? Did you see me claim that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 03:52 PM
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The time it took you to get these numbers has nothing to do with whether they are high or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 03:50 PM
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These are already large numbers for such a serious topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 08:59 AM
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Oh and choosing a non western women is choosing a women whos ONLY with you for a green card/ money I think this is lie you want to believe but is pretty far from the truth. I can give a few example as to why. 1) The span of ideal man/woman personalities varies with culture. E.g. a more nerdy / introverted will do better outside of the "Anglosphere" ( e.g. in East Asia and some EU countries). 2) Automatically more interesting due to cultural differences / life experiences. As long as one is genui…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 01:55 AM
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Prostitution is illegal in most Europe with the Netherlands a notable exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 07:13 AM
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If your gonna chat with a troll, at least, pick a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 10:54 AM
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That is not what trust is. Trust is a statement of belief and most people do make a difference between things they believe and things they know. Most mathematicians believe the ZFC axiomatic to be consistent but they know they don't know that. If belief could be changed to knowledge most would take the plunge in heart beat. These two categories are not the same and this is not how trust work. Trust in essence is an assumption, not knowledge. That's how this work for me and many whom I know. Mayb…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 08:40 PM
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I don't think you get to decide that for other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 08:27 PM
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what they feel is that they don't trust you. Not necessarily. They may feel that they shouldn't have to trust you. There is difference between knowledge and faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 05:25 PM
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Not bad!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 12:07 AM
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There are actual insults and things a given individual in a particular situation may find insulting. These two things are not same. Example: "I find it insulting you don't take me at my word".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 07:13 AM
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There is no personal ATTACK in what they wrote, though they presumed a lot about you in their reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 11:44 PM
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Put some quotes marks, at the very least.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 03:51 PM
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Good bot!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 12:35 AM
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You do not understand statistics. Averages and medians are to statistics what elementary addition to general algebra.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 08:30 PM
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Some scientific studies would probably do the work?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 12:07 PM
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One can receive these things from themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 01:08 AM
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No, this is just how experience affect perception through bias. From listening to music, to racism.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:20 PM
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You can never force anyone to do anything otherwise we don’t live in a free society. I guess no one lives in a free society.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 12:15 PM
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That is actually not true. There is this thing called Bayesian inference that makes better and better statistical predictions on a given object/subject as data about them accumulate. Now, if the information given by "past promiscuity" is enough to bring the risk level past what someone is confortable with, that is fine. At the end of the day, men in general would probably benefit from being more selective in matters of dating and the filter proposed by the OP is not a bad one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 03:25 PM
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No, what they meant is don't be that guy: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/xhmkgy/comment/ioymno2/ And try not to mind read/project on people you know nothing about when discussing ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 11:07 PM
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I can tell you have no idea what life is like in most of the world. Imagine thinking middle class individuals in the US are not rich. That kind of ignorance is amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 06:38 AM
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Middle class people in the US are rich, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 12:17 AM
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I’m flattered by your advances, but I prefer not to date a lady with children. I may agree with that provided the person in question does feel flattered. you had kids with degenerates From their recollection, it is not obvious it was actually said. Rather, these are their unfiltered thoughts on the situation presented to Redditors after the fact. I may be wrong though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 10:52 PM
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Emotional intelligence is a form or knowledge/power which is regularly abused. Therefore: nothing negative can come from being less ignorant. I still falsified. It's a silly point to argue imo. It is another (possibly unanswerable) question whether people developing their emotional intelligence is a good thing or not on the balance of things. are you serious? This is not about me. Spend a week reading some fascinating stories to become more emotionally intelligent and have a better understanding…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 10:45 PM
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They are the same percentage, and vanishingly small maybe one in five thousand.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 09:29 PM
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You should not lie to spare people's feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 08:49 PM
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nothing negative can come from being less ignorant This statement does not hold in reality. Knowledge is power and plenty of things can go wrong once people get it see e.g. WW1&2 made entirely possible by advance in science. Without going to extremes though, most people are meant to die. Spending time learning anything comes at an opportunity cost. What you should demonstrate is this cost is lower than doing whatever activities they proposed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 03:43 PM
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r/UpliftingNews :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 06:50 AM
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Are you not a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 10:14 AM
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If you live in the US that ship as already sailed. The gouvernement doesn't even need YOUR DNA. As long as enough of your relatives are sampled, you can be tracked anyway. See: https://youtu.be/KT18KJouHWg
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 10:21 PM
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I never said normal people. You did and that's the problem with the post. It's right there as your opening statement. Do they have this for normal people? With the implementation that those mentioned afterwards are not "normal".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 10:48 PM
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"normal people", "Jewish people", "Indians", "biracial". This post, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 06:38 PM
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It doesn't matter what they think. It only matters what they do. Their is often a large gap what people think they are and what they really are
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 09:10 AM
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This post looks reasonable if a hidden premise is accepted: "People reliably know what would make them happy." This is similar to the "homo economicus" fallacy. People are terrible judge of what would or wouldn't make them happy. For most, societal norms/standards offers broad guidelines and then it's trial and error. If ones (a priori) standards are such that they avoid most things that could make them happy, they are fair game to criticize. Additionally, happiness is for the most part an exerc…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 09:20 AM
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Respect:)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 11:08 PM
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How is being on the spectrum relevant to your points about safety. Please, make the link explicit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 08:33 PM
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What a mess!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 11:46 AM
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Raising ones kids is a privilege not a job IMO. If that wasn't the case, why have them in the first place? Do you think of them as some kind of investment policy? That would be kinda sad. For most people I would hope the problem is not about the cost of daycare but the costs of NOT using. Possible career destruction, loss of necessary income etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 09:43 PM
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daycare There is this thing called school. I have been told it takes some time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 07:59 PM
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Just when you think you have seen it all, Reddit delivers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 07:06 PM
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I think the sub give very partial representations of the RP. You are probably better directly diving into RP spaces. I myself first discovered it with the movie/documentary by Cassie Jaye and started digging from there. With that said, I agree with your broader point. It's good spending time in subs carrying different values/beliefs/cultures/experiences than your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 10:04 PM
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Thanks for the detailed reply!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 08:24 PM
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Working with a littéral god is sure to be stressful. Poor guy. Pretty insane that the law suit happened at all to be honest. Where did this happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 08:12 PM
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The issue is, a significant proportion of the users here are trolls. Yes, I would know.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 07:39 PM
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They are paying attention. They do not contest your "rating system" but your choice of adjectives in the English language.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 09:34 PM
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You did not quote science. None of your links lead to a reputable scientific journal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 10:10 AM
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If single dads are better parents then why do men think that the court system is biased against them? The courts would give men their children more if that were the case. Would that not be further evidence of the court bias?. Not only woul the court be biased, these bias would statistically go against the best interest of children.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 10:02 PM
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The first link, a PhD thesis from 2001 does in fact highlight the importance of intact family structure, parental expectations and values. This in line with Sigma1979 thesis. It also emphasize the importance of parent educational achievement (the hypothesis tested) but that's beside the point since it concedes your opponent thesis and use the associated variable as controls to ascertain their claim. The second link I think, has (by itself) nothing to do with the previous discussion. It examines …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 09:58 PM
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You have not sourced any of your claims or counter claims while asking for data at multiple points. At this point, they are in the black regarding the burden of proof and your objections should be dismissed as purely ideologically driven as long as your opinions are not backed by data.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 06:37 PM
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Pretty solid OP, I am enjoying the show in the comments. The unpreparedness of responders, the magnitude of their ideological commitment, it's a glorious sight to behold:)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 06:20 PM
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I mean morally good yes. but for logic to imply something about good vs bad it needs a moral standard as well. Who's standards though?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 06:48 PM
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Who decides whether a particular use of logic is good?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 06:36 PM
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I am not sure it works as you say since finance and status downgrade are common issues that end marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 06:27 PM
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A women working the same amount of hours as you is going to feel just as tired and worn out. This is flat out wrong. Not all work is equally tiring, no two people get equally tired for the same work.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 01:26 PM
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These aren't incompatible actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 09:13 AM
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Adoption and surrogate are options for a family. Marrying someone that's only interested in you because you have money is no different from buying hookers. Actually, it's worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 09:10 AM
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And just like that, the sub was closed :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 12:21 AM
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The husband knows he is not the biological father. This thing went to court, she couldn't hide it. In fact it is stated that he knows: Her husband is the only father the boy has ever known and the two areextremely close. The husband took on a role that many men would not haveand has been an “outstanding role model” to the boy; Also note that the only reason the request could be denied was because the husband was already recognized as the legal father. With that said, that was in the English spea…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 12:18 PM
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1) Like motherhood, fatherhood is also a social construct. 2) The scenario you describe above plays out legally actually. Some discover their is no genetic filiation between them and their children. Yet, the law won't allow them to break that filiation. Additionally, presumption of paternity and the fact that intentional lies about the identity of genetic father prove that this not very far from how women and society view fatherhood now. And therefore there is no point of doing paternity tests e…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 06:30 AM
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You have only convinced me that many fathers dont see their role as something that they become after their child is born but a favor they do for women Ironically, it seems to me that this is how women first -and society as a whole then- view fatherhood. A woman can hide a child from their father and vice-versa with zero legal consequences. Wrongful paternity can be intentionally established at the detriment of the genetic father, the child and possibly the now legal father. Yet, paternity fraud …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 06:16 AM
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I mean, if you don't mind a more technical discussion... https://www.mcgill.ca/law/files/law/robert_leckey_oped_fatherhood_dna_gazette_4august2009.pdf That's exactly what it means.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 01:24 AM
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Just because two people created a child doesn't necessarily mean it's "theirs". Some people indeed argue that children belong to society as a whole and that they should be taken care of and parented by the state. This would reduce inequalities (and racism) and lead to a fairer society while also abolishing parenthood altogether. In all the examples I have given, there are always people responsible for the kid. No society that I know of believes/believed it fine to leave babies to die. The questi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 01:12 AM
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Here is one case. https://jasonpaulhowie.com/judge-denies-mans-request-paternity-test-basis-not-childs-best-interests/ Not the best poster case but accessible to neophytes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 12:49 AM
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Where would these “places” be? Canada, (at least some parts of) the US, France, Austria, just to name a few. Fatherhood being a social construct does not mean fathers have no value. Motherhood is also a social construct.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 12:24 AM
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Finally, we are making some progress! (Yay to that last paragraph). Filiation in general is a social construct. This applies to motherhood too. In some places, children's are/were primarily their fathers and motherhood can be revoked on case of divorce. Similarly, marrying a man with children makes one their mothers. So, it can cut anyway. The question is what strikes the most balance between fairness and the "global good". I don't think the recently overturned status-quo in the US was anywhere …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 12:12 AM
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Everything can be confirmed by a research on Google scholar (sociology, anthropology). Filiation (including fatherhood) is largely a social construct. The only part that is not is genetic filiation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:59 PM
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Fine, you don't believe in science.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:50 PM
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"In many places, you can't become a father if the child is the result of an affair with a married woman" That's the point. Also by that line of thoughts, should mothers that took part in activities detrimental to the child after its conception (smoking,drinking, etc) be prosecuted?. As long as the child is born it should hold right?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:48 PM
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Also by that line of thoughts, should mothers that took part in activities detrimental to the child after its conception (smoking,drinking, etc) be prosecuted?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:46 PM
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The point about how a biological father can be denied fatherhood. Why do you think the biological father in particular should be responsible? In other societies, the mother's family (uncles, aunts, grandparents) are responsible for the upbringing of the children
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:41 PM
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Fatherhood and male genetic filiation are not the same thing. Adoption and sperm donation do not guarantee that children will be well cared for either. No, the fact you think genetic filiation should entail responsibilities is in large part a result of social conditinoing. Other cultures, times etc view the matter differently. Just do a Google search, you may learn something.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:30 PM
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Who decides that? Are sperm donors bound by these duties? Why not? Should adoption be banned ? Not, that you did not address my previous point either. Not only can fatherhood be imposed, it can also be denied to the willing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:22 PM
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Is a sperm donor a deadbeat? If you adopt someone are they not your children? How does fatherhood works outside of the western world, e.g. in matrilineal societies? Tbf, you seem uneducated on this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:16 PM
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The problem is not that women have complete control over reproduction but that the consequences of their reproductive choices are forced onto others via fatherhood and other social constructs. In matrilineal cultures -e.g. where the mother's brothers are more me important than the father- things are quite different.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:03 PM
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Fatherhood and filiation in general are (mostly) social constructs that varies with time places and societies. Since the concept can and has evolved, your point is bit very persuasive. E.g. In many places, you can't become a father if the child is the result of an affair with a married woman (without consent from the husband).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 10:56 PM
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The line is when they legally recognised the child as theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 06:55 PM
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Sole system never reach their equilibrium point as there may be other attractors. See mathematical economics or nonlinear dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 07:43 AM
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It is, if they can't afford the risks/consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 06:20 PM
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That's besides the point actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:22 PM
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It doesn't matter what is said. At the end of the only one party gets to decide.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:59 PM
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By whom?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 09:31 AM
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Knowing that the "father" would not support the child may lead some to rethink their choice and abort after all. That's what I meant. This is not comparable to abstinence or to the use of contraceptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 09:19 AM
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It's a privilege when other people need to clean up your actions and you face no punishment whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 08:38 AM
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It's female privilege to have them when they can't take care of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 07:35 AM
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You forgot #4. Abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 07:28 AM
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There is no winning therefore what one chooses reveals their nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 05:32 AM
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Reductio ad absurdum is not a logical fallacy. It is formalised in mathematical logic as the equivalence between the statements "A is true" and "Not A implies a False".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:54 PM
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You are engaging in an act that may result in you as being required to pay then money every month for the next 18 years…. You are missing the point. The whole discussion is about whether it is fair that the act could require payments.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:28 PM
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The consistency can be respected though. Can't say the same for many users here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 09:08 PM
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I’m trans-blue pill. Best stuff of my day so far :)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 10:47 AM
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From what I know, racial/cultural/status issues most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 01:52 PM
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Damn, the things I read on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 09:41 AM
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Isn't that just part of the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 06:51 PM
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This is one of many coherent ways to interpret my comment. Congrats :)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 05:15 PM
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There is a difference indeed, and even the OP agrees with you. I think you missed their points.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 05:06 PM
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Patriarchy? that's ridiculous. My father was never sexist/misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 04:44 PM
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I defended no one. I just pointed out a strawman. This is your conversation: OP: "I cheated and broke up with one of my exes. She was crying and shit every day and I told her it would be nothing for her to go get something new. She swore up and down she couldn’t*.* It took her 2 weeks to start dating a dude that took her out, bought her food, and drove her everywhere (including to my place but that’s a diff story)" You: "So you purposefully hurt a woman and was a total dick to her and then act u…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 04:39 PM
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I did no such thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 03:51 PM
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Pushing the argument, I would say it's kinda like the patriarchy, it happens without even women noticing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 03:43 PM
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There is nothing to explain, you just put words in his mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 03:39 PM
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Great post! With some luck, there will be quality replies but I am not holding my breath.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 10:37 PM
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Damn, I admire your commitment!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 10:42 AM
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Bad faith though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 06:20 AM
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The net fiscal impact of an average woman is negative (-100k at death time) Do you have source for that one? Would happily read more on the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 04:56 PM
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Damn!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 12:17 AM
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Just say the word :p
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 01:27 PM
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What are the discriminatory laws regarding the caretaking of kids you would like to see abolished?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 12:25 AM
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Meh, none of the things you wrote are enforced with state power.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 12:22 AM
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If that's the message then, it does seem outside of the topic which is about the benefits of marriage to men. Without elaboration your point is irrelevant as it fails to show marriage is a clear benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 09:06 AM
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Let's (over)simplify it like this: What I think you said: "Marriage is a deterministic deal that makes you happier". What was added: "Marriage is coin toss, if you win you could be happier if you lose (divorce) you are left unhappier". Since divorced men are counted as single you are screwing the cost/benefit analysis of marriage by looking only at positive outcomes. Not that this is not my point, I am merely paraphrasing "PPDenthusiast" reply. Another way to challenge is to note that correlatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 11:29 PM
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But then you fail at including the whole possible effects of marriage in your calculation. (The eventuality of divorce is one of those)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 10:58 PM
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Goggle "The Narcissist's Prayer". That may be helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 08:39 PM
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Woosh
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 08:38 PM
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It is not enough that they lie. They also need to silence anyone that could spill the beans. If they plan to marry, it is going to be very hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 11:35 AM
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Press X to doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 02:00 AM
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Intj, lol :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 12:58 AM
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I don't mean to be mean, but... :)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 11:21 PM
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It's not too complicated really. You take a person and look at what percentage of their target population (opposite sex, same sex, both, depending on orientation) find them attractive/wants to date them. That's their grade and is a well defined measure of their attractiveness which can be used to get the top x%.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 11:51 AM
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He believes the past matters and acts accordingly. Seems pretty straightforward.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 05:53 AM
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No you don't get to do that. Ever talked to someone that suffers from severe PTSD ? Or even adults that got bitten by e.g. dogs as infant ? The trauma stays (even when the original event is forgotten) regardless of what they want or decide.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 05:47 AM
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That's not. Trauma you don't even remember may heavily influence your life just like events that were not experienced as traumatic may influence future behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 05:38 AM
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You would do well to learn what "also" means .
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 01:31 AM
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Who is gimpgirl ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 11:07 PM
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Some are "Reformed Nice Guys" others were abusive from the beginning :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 10:35 AM
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There is a continuum between 2.a and 2.b. I'm not saying you should never talk to him again. I am saying you should enforce enough boundaries so as to not suffer necessarily. For some people that means the friendship as to die at the opposite end of the spectrum some take things in stride. It's up to you to judge what works best for you but remember to be kind to yourself.
/r/RedPillWomen05/08/20 07:53 PM
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I don't know, when I was studying at the university this kind of stuff happened. It was playing cards, chatting and making plans to change the worlds bu fundamentally it's not that different from what OP is saying happened. That's being said, it's another culture and another time so I may be missjudging things. At the end of the day, the most important thing is that she should get her agency back because the current situation is clearly not working for her.
/r/RedPillWomen05/08/20 07:48 PM
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Would it be possible that he just sees you as his best friend ? I feel like most of this stuff is happening in your head because you now like him and are passively passive. Your options are 1) Go for what you want but understand it may nuke the friendship / friends dynamics. 2.a) Let it go and continue business as usual. I don't recommend it given your post. 2.b) Let it go and dial down/cut the friendship off. 3) Continue to wait for signs in the sky and let your mind (and perhaps him ?) torture…
/r/RedPillWomen05/08/20 02:50 PM
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I try, but he's very tight lipped about a lot of what goes on in his life Not a good sign imo. It's seems like the emotional connection is pretty weak and combined with your reply to u/KaraZorElf the overall picture is not pretty... I have to ask, what do you both want from this relationship and how do you see it evolving ?
/r/RedPillWomen24/07/20 11:00 PM
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Do you talk about things related to his hobbies/interest/work/plans/projects etc ? If that's the case then something deeper is happening.
/r/RedPillWomen24/07/20 10:12 PM
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Yeah no. You don't become a monk (red pill or otherwise) Because you feel you failed at life. You are afraid of being alone but quite frankly, you should be afraid of being in a relationship as your or current mindset set you up as ideal target for abusers. Have some courage and do the hard work. Learn to socialize, learn to communicate, find some self love and go do something productive with your life. You can star thinking about romantic stuff after that. Lucky at 21 your life is just beginnin…
/r/RedPillWomen26/05/20 11:54 PM
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Agnostic, Nice choice of words :)
/r/TheRedPill30/11/17 11:10 PM
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For real bro :)
/r/seduction11/06/17 02:46 PM
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