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For those who haven't seen it the current data up to 2021 suggests roughly 55% of people are meeting online and 22% are meeting in bars or restaurants. The "apparent post‐2010 rise in meeting through bars and restaurants for heterosexual couples is due entirely to couples who met online and subsequently had a first in‐person meeting at a bar or restaurant or other establishment where people gather and socialize." https://web.stanford.edu/~mrosenfe/Rosenfeld_how_hetero_couples_met_through2021v4.J…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:54 PM
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They aren't important for women either. The data shows that the least attractive women aren't struggling to get married or find successful partners. "The analysis of the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health (Add Health) shows that very unattractive women were significantly more likely to be married at Age 29 than unattractive or average-looking women, and their spouses or partners earned significantly more than those of unattractive or average-looking women." source: https://personal…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 05:26 PM
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There is still a daily general discussion thread pinned it just has a really long title. https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1cyr27k/posts_with_affirmative_claims_and_loaded/
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 02:31 PM
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Looks like in new york city the ratio by age is slightly skewed towards women with 5% more of them in the 20-30 age range in comparison to men and a larger skew in the over 40 age range. For under 20 there are about 5% more males which is what you would expect since that is the standard human birth ratio. Age Group Population (Male) Population (Female) Gender Ratio Under 5 years 266,209 254,258 1.05 5 to 9 years 239,116 230,070 1.04 10 to 14 years 257,842 244,080 1.06 15 to 19 years 236,587 230,…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 03:19 AM
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Archive.is blocks cloudflare dns users so that is probably the cause of your issue if the pages aren't loading for you. Here is a screenshot of the full first article: https://i.imgur.com/hRqVteE.png and second article: https://i.imgur.com/W9HVzKm.png
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 05:23 AM
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Here is a paywall free link to the first article: https://archive.is/zwXKU and here is the primary chart from the article: https://i.imgur.com/6BNSTMn.png Here is a paywall free link to the second article: https://archive.is/wsmtn
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 08:29 PM
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The link you posted needs to have the www. removed. Here is the repaired link for anyone else who was trying to click it: https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/5pVu0d6cPV
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 08:33 PM
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I think your tier list is mostly correct although I would say an attractive man would still be below an attractive woman. In virtually any domain where beauty is monetizable women are making more off of their beauty. When it comes to opportunities afforded by looks attractive women still get much more access since there is substantially more demand for attractive women from wealthy/high status men than there is for attractive men from wealthy/high status women. What was your reasoning for placin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 08:12 PM
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The most unattractive woman I know (born with a very noticeable facial deformity) is 24, has a nice house, a decent job, is engaged (to her former pump and dump who committed after she got pregnant) and has two children. That is also in line with what the statistics show. "The analysis of the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health (Add Health) shows that very unattractive women were significantly more likely to be married at Age 29 than unattractive or average-looking women, and their …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 07:53 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 10:07 PM
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how did you fail on the easiest mode? He isn't a woman.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 04:46 PM
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Women are purposely attempting to not appeal to the male gaze Perhaps in terms of becoming morbidly obese but not from their selection in outfits. The vast majority (90%+) of women that I see are still wearing tightly fitted clothing. Lately I've even seen an uptick in these unitards being worn in public.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 04:35 PM
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most women now are wearing baggy jeans I'm not observing this anywhere. At the gym they are all still wearing yoga pants or booty shorts with maybe 1/100 of them wearing loose sweatpants. Outside of the gym fitted pants, yoga pants, or shorts are all the most common with loose clothes once again being very rare. I have a seen a slight uptick in in early 2000s clothes but that would still only be around 1/20.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 04:32 PM
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This guy is about a 3-3.5/10 if you are using the /r/truerateme scale although the people saying he is statistically average are also correct. However, you are correct that this post is bringing out more of the people talking about statistical averages rather than looks ratings for whatever reason.
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 11:56 PM
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Yep, it is the same case for me. Youtube will pretty quickly get rid of content that you don't want to see and you get to choose what you want to see on reddit.
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 07:59 PM
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I don't see any point of this nofap stuff. There is some value in it for average to above average guys since it can give them the motivation to go out and be social in an attempt to get a girlfriend instead of staying at home. For below average guys though who don't have that option it is largely useless.
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 02:33 PM
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He is around a 4/10 and she is about a 5.5/10 which is a larger gap than what most women would go for when money isn't involved.
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 02:21 PM
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Yep, she is around a 5.5/10 so slightly above average but quite common. https://i.imgur.com/DOAkTE1.png https://i.imgur.com/IJPbvL9.png The thing is that majority of the population is overweight, so if you're thin you're automatically at least above average. While this is technically true it isn't really how people are actually judged. If someone is only interested in thin people the 70% of people who are overweight or obese might as well not exist and within the 30% of people who are thin she i…
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 02:19 PM
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The romance male leads are typically fairly desirable but you are correct that the action male leads usually aren't.
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 05:24 PM
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Follow a skincare routine. What skincare routine do you recommend.
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 02:48 PM
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As you said makeup doesn't make much of a difference I would say it typically adds up to around .5-1 point but only if they need to hide bad features such as weak eyebrows or unhealthy skin. For people with average features to begin with it makes almost no difference: Example 1: https://i.imgur.com/1NtcHvg.jpg Example 2: https://i.imgur.com/f9sEUYB.jpg Unhealthy Skin Example: https://i.imgur.com/9NMCbXf.png
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 05:21 AM
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That is what the premise of game is. You engage in emotionally stimulating conversation to try to get her to be sexually interested. While black pillers would argue that game is pointless the average man's interest in game has been going up in the past decade due to dating difficulties so I would still argue this is common knowledge. Women even created the term demisexual and it was trending for a while. The common joke was that it was just a synonym for a heterosexual woman since the majority o…
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 04:36 AM
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Is that actually a common belief though? The vast majority of guys know that they enjoy sex more than women do which is why the number of women available for casual sex is so small.
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 04:25 AM
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It has let us to have an unrealistic expectation of what we should expect. For men it's porn. By this do you mean that porn has lowered men's standards? Standards for what women should look like are at an all time low.
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 04:04 AM
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Correct the guy in this video is quite average and since we know that women rate 80% of men as below average he would fall into that category as well.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 02:22 PM
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Face > height copers on suicide watch. This guy is facially average to slightly above average here is a picture of him: https://i.imgur.com/CxqRbGy.png Average face + average height hasn't been enough for a long time. If instead of being a 5.5/10 he was a 7/10 his height wouldn't be much of an issue.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 02:12 PM
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Both of the title options are fine. If you are just ugly and not short you can get plastic surgery using your abundance of money to become attractive. Similarly chad can use his looks to get a lot of money as well.
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 08:31 PM
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True as jeremy meeks has shown just being extremely good looking can get you millions of dollars.
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 08:30 PM
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This is the source: https://personal.lse.ac.uk/kanazawa/pdfs/EHB2018.pdf and here is the full quote: "The analysis of the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health shows that very unattractive women were significantly more likely to be married at Age 29 than unattractive or average-looking women, and their spouses or partners earned significantly more than those of unattractive or average-looking women. "
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 01:51 PM
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High tier normie is a truerateme 6, chadlite is a 7, and chad is an 8+ High tier normie James Maslow: https://i.imgur.com/8iiV5as.jpg Chadlite Penn Badgley: https://i.imgur.com/SuiUDX2.jpg Chad oussama guessoum: https://i.imgur.com/xyd8L8g.jpg More Rating Exmples: https://imgur.com/soZ3OuP
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 01:39 PM
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6666 BARE MINIMUM. What is the 4th 6
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 06:53 PM
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Go to a specific gaming devoted sub and tell them their game is shit and see how it works out for you. It'd work out well. Most of the gaming subs that I see contain the people who complain the most about their game to begin with.
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 02:27 PM
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That would be my guess as well. While I wouldn't recommend a poor guy to try to get women by going into debt and spending $35k on a ring if you are from a wealthy family with a $50m+ net worth it just isn't a substantial expense.
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 02:14 PM
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Assuming RMV is referring to relationship market value the ugliest women aren't struggling to get married and they tend to marry earlier with higher earning men. "The analysis of the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health shows that very unattractive women were significantly more likely to be married at Age 29 than unattractive or average-looking women, and their spouses or partners earned significantly more than those of unattractive or average-looking women. " https://personal.lse.ac…
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/23 09:53 PM
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We just had 2 threads on this topic. https://old.reddit.com/r/AllPillDebate/comments/16z681t/which_is_more_important_height_or_looks/ https://old.reddit.com/r/AllPillDebate/comments/16rv1f5/which_matters_more/ This comment contains the answer Theres some level of total SMV threshold you need to pass to be genuinely attractive to women, some equation of face(40%)+ height(40%)+ status(10%)+ whatever minor factors(10%). Obviously the higher your total is the more genuinely attractive you are. If yo…
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 11:48 PM
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It reads like an ai generated post.
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 02:10 PM
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If you are interested in becoming a programmer make sure you get into a top engineering college, network while you are there, and work on projects in your spare time. Computer Science degrees from no name schools won't get you a job anymore without work history or a referral. Take a look at /r/cscareerquestions to get a sense of the struggles of cs grads. https://old.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/171cp9s/job_hunt_after_800_applications_and_still_no/
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 01:51 AM
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we demonstrate how the process of mainstreaming incel beliefs is facilitated by their interconnectedness with wider sexism and structural misogyny. The harms generating from this association are conducive to the normalisation of blackpill beliefs and the reinforcement of misogyny, sexism and justification of rape culture. Just some feminist garbage. The abstract alone shows that you can't take them seriously.
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 01:47 AM
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the female gaze “sees people as people.” “The truth is that men tend to care a lot about aesthetics in their partner, but women don’t really care that much about it.” Absolute nonsense at best you could argue women don't care that much about muscular aesthetics but they primarily make their decisions based on facial aesthetics which is why chadfishing is possible.
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 12:28 AM
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That isn't true whatsoever. 3/10 women can easily hookup with 6-7+/10 guys that leaves nothing leftover for the 3/10 men. These guys are left with no options for getting laid unless you are counting escorts which are illegal in the u.s. and very expensive.
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 12:07 AM
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Assuming the black woman has good behavioral traits she will have no difficulty getting a long term relationship. If you've ever watched kevin samuels most of the black women on that show say that they have been proposed to before and that they choose to decline it to look for someone better. So as always it is just women choosing to stay single instead of partnering up with someone on their level.
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 08:55 PM
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Nah the caveman could just try to become the leader by killing the current leader. If he was successful he would gain status ending his inceldom and if he failed he would be dead.
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 08:51 PM
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I agree with everything for the most part with two minor caveats. If an average person is calling you a 6/10 in real life then you are actually below average since they usually give people 7/10s however if you are on /r/truerateme attractive starts at about a 5.5-6/10. Most women also prefer a natural athletic physique over a ripped steroid physique so being ripped isn't particularly important.
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 04:26 PM
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True
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 04:11 PM
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You got it exactly right. Women assume that because they want certain things from men that men want those same things in them but in reality men don't care.
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 03:52 PM
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Morbidly obese women are still in high demand so nothing you said bears out in reality. The things you listed are nice to haves but women with none of those features still have hundreds to thousands of guys who are interested in them. There is a reason why all the femcel subreddits have to ban men from trying to date them because ultimately there are enough disadvantaged guys that no matter how ugly the woman is there will be numerous guys interested in her.
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 03:46 PM
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That was the full question it is in the body of the post. Over dating boring average guy and not Chad.. do you think most women would rather be single
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 02:53 PM
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Good list
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 03:23 AM
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yes
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 01:38 AM
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no
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 01:38 AM
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There was a popular song about 10 years ago called my type and the creator's type in women was "you're just my type Oh, you got a pulse and you are breathing." Which I think sums up what most men are looking for pretty accurately.
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 11:56 PM
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The data shows that they would rather remain single than get together with an undesirable guy. The current estimates are that roughly 45% of women between 24-44 will remain single by 2030. Whether they are struggling to get commitment from top tier guys or not doesn't change the fact that it isn't going to get easier for average to below average guys. https://www.morganstanley.com/ideas/womens-impact-on-the-economy
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 08:05 PM
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Older women are also less desirable in the dating world. Less desirable than young women but still more desirable than 99.9% of men so that isn't really a factor. If a man takes care of himself, he's more desirable in the dating world for a lengthier span of time. (30-60) That isn't particularly true these days now that women are making more money they would still rather be with a good looking guy than a short or ugly guy who makes roughly the same amount as her.
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 07:46 PM
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If you are not autistic, have a good bf %, have visible abs and muscles, have a job, what's left to do? At what point can I stop blaming myself and accept that not everything is in my control and genetics determine a great part of your life? The only real option that remains is betabuxing but that requires a large amount of money these days and since they won't really love you the divorce risk is even higher.
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 07:41 PM
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Its true and if they want to make themselves more desirable it is trivially easy as well. To have an attractive physique as a man you need to be lucky genetically to be tall, have a good jawline, and be able to put on muscle. For women just being at a healthy bodyfat percentage is already enough to make them stand out which requires vastly less effort than building muscle. And even then if they choose to do nothing at all and just remain obese they still have an abundance of options. Not to ment…
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 07:26 PM
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It doesn't particularly surprise me iTV recently had all his content removed as well. The majority of face and lms' content was put on archive.org fortunately so it isn't lost.
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 04:09 PM
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Weight makes a big difference when I was thin I would get the occasional complement after gaining about 30 lbs I never received any complements.
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 03:26 PM
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I wouldn't go quite so far as to say ugly but it does mean you are not attractive.
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 03:25 PM
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As one of the top comments mentioned wheat waffles left out some key data I could be misunderstanding, but it seems you didn't go on any of the dates? If so, we are missing crucial data. For one, how many of the girls actually showed up? Getting them to agree to meet is all well and good, but we've all been stood up before. Also, how was the actual date? Maybe you got there and they weren't as into you as they were online. Maybe your photos/profile carried you a bit. Also he is in a college town…
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 03:05 PM
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I don't see a full archive but here are a few collection pages: https://web.archive.org/web/20150330213518/https://redpillcomics.blogspot.com/ https://web.archive.org/web/20150815134248/https://redpillcomics.blogspot.com/ https://imhentai.xxx/gallery/254072/
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 02:17 PM
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Pretty sure the dick size people are just memeing since as you said the size is useless if you can't get the women to have sex with you first.
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/23 11:38 PM
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Yep, once you reach around 5'7-5'8 looks are more important.
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/23 11:02 PM
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We just had this same thread and poll last week: https://old.reddit.com/r/AllPillDebate/comments/16rv1f5/which_matters_more/
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/23 10:58 PM
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That would've been interesting to see. I'm guessing that a 2/10 women would've been roughly equal to chad.
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/23 10:55 PM
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Nichemaxing can work to an extent such as being extremely tall, goth, etc.
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/23 10:51 PM
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I think truerateme is good and the rest of the rating subreddits are worthless.
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/23 10:49 PM
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While it does seem overly compressed men's ratings on true rate me are fairly accurate to how women rate men privately though. Wheat waffles recently had college girls rate some guys and most of them were getting between 3 and 5. As for the other subreddits you are correct /r/rateme gives extremely average people 8s, 9s, and 10s making them worthless.
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/23 10:48 PM
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There is pretty much a 100% chance that OP is 19 years old and is counting from 0.
/r/AllPillDebate02/10/23 06:35 PM
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It is available you just need to open the website directly you can't load it through RES. With that being said here is an imgur mirror: https://imgur.com/a/nuzxIaj
/r/AllPillDebate02/10/23 02:22 PM
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They aren't. Some people on this subreddit are just overly generous with the chad label. As the parent comment in this chain said situationships are for the top 20% which are HTNs or above.
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/23 02:20 PM
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top 20% is high tier normie or HTN. Also here are some reference pictures: Average guy: https://i.imgur.com/mBjXRHJ.jpg High tier normie: https://i.imgur.com/8NTSuPY.jpg High tier normie 2: https://i.imgur.com/whpAHo8.jpg Chad: https://imgur.com/1d4QROL
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/23 02:06 PM
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Which guy there were 3 in the video.
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/23 02:19 AM
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In this one they have a good looking 6'3 guy vs an average looking 5'10 guy but they are trying to get girls at a bar not the beach. https://youtu.be/9MTPFgpkwBk?t=53
/r/AllPillDebate30/09/23 11:27 PM
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I think they can look good but it is also a sign that her values likely won't align with mine.
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/23 12:46 AM
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The posts do sound like what you are looking for though. https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/z6tu4e/my_best_friend_is_a_male_stripper_i_watched_trp/
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/23 12:30 AM
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They don't really have to be chad, per se, just generally pretty active and successful with women. Sounds like you want the /r/TheRedPill sub.
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/23 12:07 AM
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I would say it is less about age and more about the reason for your lack of experience. If you tried to get a girlfriend and failed because they found you too ugly or too short then it might be over for you without major changes. If you were just bluepilled and waiting around hoping for something to happen which led to you never taking any action then you might still have a chance. Also if you were focused on making money then geomaxxing could be a possibility as well.
/r/AllPillDebate28/09/23 05:12 PM
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Correct, commitment from top men (the best looking or the highest status) is scarce and because women almost exclusively want top men it makes them think it is scarce in general. I would also be interested when your second point's data was gathered since it seems to be missing a source. Assuming it was gathered in the last 10 years or so though it doesn't surprise me that low tier to average guys are trying to offer commitment quickly in an attempt get women to stick around.
/r/AllPillDebate28/09/23 02:24 AM
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Yep, for that reason I would also say it is largely pointless. Not to mention depending on the country it can be very expensive and illegal.
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 04:35 PM
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I would also agree with focusing on developing a skill set where you could afford plastic surgery instead of trying something like bone smashing.
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 03:32 PM
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Even bluepillers would agree with avoiding online dating if you aren't a top 30% guy. Meeting women in real life of course isn't particularly effective either but whereas you might never get matches online you can at least have some conversations in real life which might have a slim chance of going somewhere.
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 03:10 PM
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The difference in sexual access between sub5 women and attractive women is minor. Even a 2/10 will still have abundant sexual options. Or in other words there is no hierarchy. It is a bit like asking why are people who make $5 million a year satisfied with their income when people who make $200 million exist and the answer is because it is still more than enough money.
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 03:40 AM
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A clashing personality would be my assumption since the question is fairly pointless otherwise. A polar opposite interpreted as different but complementary personality traits would just mean that is the strictly better option.
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 08:54 PM
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By this do you mean that bad looks will make people perceive your personality more negatively?
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 02:10 PM
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Yep, the decision is to choose between potential health consequences or a lifetime of loneliness so it is obvious which one guys are choosing.
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 02:09 PM
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Yep, from what I'm seeing apple shape mostly just means overweight/fat. The only thin example of an apple shape is someone who most guys would find attractive.
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 01:52 AM
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You already said you are a voluntary celebate because you know guys are interested in having sex with you for free. The only option that incels have is paying which in a country where sex work is illegal like the U.S. can easily cost thousands of dollars and you can get arrested. If an incel said what you said though about not wanting to have sex with the women who find him attractive I would agree with you that he isn't an incel but a volcel just like you.
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 01:49 AM
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OP is just a volcel she already stated this in another reply. She doesn't want to have sex with the men who are attracted to her.
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 01:43 AM
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I didn't say you were attractive. Dark skinned burn victims are still finding men who find them genuinely attractive though so odds are you would have guys who find you attractive as well.
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 01:12 AM
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I guarantee that you could easily have sex with a random man from online dating apps within a day if you swiped yes on everyone.
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 01:02 AM
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You are correct about physique in that it can't make up for height at all but when you are the top .002% of looks there will be someone interested even at that height.
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 12:30 AM
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I enjoy them my only complaint is that there aren't enough posts. With that being said if you want to get away from them I recommend using a website blocking service like freedom, cold turkey, or stayfocusd and permanently ban yourself from coming.
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 06:04 PM
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Full body deformity. i think the equivalent is being flat chested and having no ass. short men aren’t masculine enough and flat women aren’t feminine enough we look like little boys. These aren't really similar at all since women with those attributes are still sexually desired. /r/cutelittlebutts and /r/tinytits both have 1 million followers and you can find numerous other nsfw subreddits about these features as well. While porn catered towards women isn't particularly popular it is even harder…
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 05:54 PM
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women complaining that no men are interested in them Those women will also tell you that they refuse to use online dating. Their problem also typically stems from inability to lock down chad not just having sex with him. The OP of these threads is a textbook example of refusing to use online dating. https://old.reddit.com/r/AllPillDebate/comments/16lwttc/im_tired_bro/ https://old.reddit.com/r/AllPillDebate/comments/16lyylq/im_so_sick_of_yall/k152s0e/
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 05:18 PM
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Yeah that was just way too much money for this to be a good question. For this to be a worthwhile question it should be around $5 million.
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 05:06 PM
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Seemingly there are attractive guys who are still having sex with obese women who are 3/10s so I would say the threshold is that they aren't majorly deformed.
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 04:40 PM
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Yep, this is the correct answer.
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 04:32 PM
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If you are talking about the chad looks threshold I'd say around the top 5-10% of looks.
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 04:28 PM
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I'm almost impressed to an extent that guys are even able to get hard for those obese women. I'm with you in that fat and ugly women are a no for me.
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 04:25 PM
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I would lean towards face but at either extreme it can carry you. A 6'10 guy who is a 3/10 will probably still be fairly popular in clubs and real life. A 10/10 guy who is 5'2 is going to be hot enough that there will be some girls interested. If you had to choose between being a 6/10 in one vs a 4/10 in the other though I'd say a 6/10 face would be the way to go.
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 04:23 PM
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Most college girls aren't Stacies. OP wasn't claiming that and girls don't need to be particularly attractive to have sex with chad.
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 04:14 PM
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True, it seems like OP is defining sex symbol as female lead in a show/movie.
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 04:13 PM
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I would only say significantly above average if you are factoring in fat people. Against other thin people she is very average.
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 04:05 PM
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Here is a picture of each of them while they were younger: Scarlett Johansson Angelina Jolie Jennifer Aniston I would say Scarlett Johansson falls mostly into a cute 6-7, Angelina Jolie looks 8+ but it is very angle dependent, and Jennifer Aniston is fairly plain at around a 5-6.
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 03:59 PM
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Online
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 02:26 PM
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They can't get commitment from chad, high status, or mega rich guys ($100m+) but besides that commitment is trivial to get. Most guys in the average range trivially hand out commitment these days from what I've observed. Women are still the initiators of pretty much all breakups.
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 02:24 PM
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In essence OP is thinking of moral values instead of SMV.
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 04:27 PM
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Depends on the game but the more grindy and mechanically complex games still frequently tend to be mostly male. RTS games, ARPGs, etc. I used to run a gaming youtube channel and the viewers on those genres were always 99+% male. They are more prevalent in mobile gaming and casual fps now though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 08:36 PM
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I do believe these will exist one day You don't even need to believe in it happening it will happen. Low quality versions are already coming out today. This is a basic one from 5 years ago and here are what the newer robots today look like
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 01:07 PM
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It is a Jeremy Meeks reference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Iw81pZALt0
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 01:55 AM
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Yeah, I would say that if you naturally came across the blackpill in most instances it would be because you were already struggling to begin with. If your struggles were caused by something that you can take action to fix such as being fat or fixing your skin health then it can be beneficial. If they aren't really fixable such as being 5'2 then it gives you the knowledge about the cause of your failure so that you can spend your time doing other things. The only group I would say it negatively e…
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/23 08:38 PM
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We already know that ugly women are still able to hook up with very good looking guys so I don't think it would be that effective.
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/23 08:20 PM
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I mean he is no where close to being a chad and getting muscle + hair isn't going to be enough for that either. However, he also isn't ugly and he could certainly get into a relationship.
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/23 08:08 PM
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In his case I would say a professional set of photos + being on the more long term focused apps would probably get him something pretty quickly. He would also be a prime candidate for geomaxxing assuming he is already wealthy.
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/23 08:02 PM
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That guy might already be a millionaire a lot of his posts are about being a landlord and commercial real estate. In this post he says he just closed a $25.5 million dollar deal.
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/23 07:54 PM
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In this guys case he looks pretty good while bald so he would just need a better strategy for dating.
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/23 07:50 PM
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At 5'10 with your other characteristics you should be having moderate success already.
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/23 07:12 PM
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I would say just the 8/10 1 in 1000 face is sufficient to be called a chad assuming he is at least 5'10-5'11. For example, I would say young Brad Pitt would be a chad even though he is only 5'11. 6'5 + top tier face falls more into the giga chad range.
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/23 04:46 PM
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I'm assuming he is referring to guys who are born with extreme good looks since that is valued and not something that those guys need to earn.
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/23 04:41 PM
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Here is the original photo OP linked: https://previews.123rf.com/images/kurhan/kurhan1304/kurhan130400277/19029729-group-of-men.jpg
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/23 04:13 PM
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One of the funniest posts I've seen.
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/23 03:58 PM
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Being fat doesn't even matter as the video I linked showed. She is volcel purely because she doesn't like the hundreds of guys who would match with her and she is voluntarily choosing to remain celibate.
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/23 03:47 PM
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I'm guessing he lied about being 25. He is probably 35 as well.
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/23 03:33 PM
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Here is an imgur mirror: https://i.imgur.com/gA2xGXD.mp4
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/23 03:09 PM
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It is because at any time you could go on online dating and find someone. While you probably haven't gotten any romantic attention in real life the alternative options are always available. We've seen that it doesn't really matter what your physical attributes are you will still do fine on online dating. Morbidly obese women still gets lots of attention on online dating, old women, handicapped with brittle bones disease, legless, and so on.
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/23 02:54 PM
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To be fair 1-4 are functionally all the same in their mind and you could just compress it to below average. It is also in line with what we would expect from the data on how women rate men.
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/23 02:40 PM
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Men are notorious for overrating women. Look at any rating sub on a woman's post and completely average girls will get 7s, 8s, or 9s. I think some guys are also adding 1-2 points to their rating if they see blond hair. https://old.reddit.com/r/Rateme/comments/15in5lg/19f_please_rate_and_be_brutally_honest_tips_would/ https://old.reddit.com/r/Rateme/comments/15eqgfr/18f_no_make_up_couple_angles_give_me_the_cold/
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/23 02:35 PM
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Yep, to pull off being bald you have to have a good skull shape in addition to being attractive and masculine to begin with. Even then most of the good looking bald guys would still look better with hair.
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/23 02:20 PM
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Yep, my understanding is that even without being shadow banned if you swipe too much you will naturally be shown less due to a low match rate.
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/23 02:13 PM
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I think the scale on the sub is pretty accurate for men and the ratings are fairly reflective of online dating dating looks requirements. 6/10 will get something, 7/10 will do well, and 8+/10 will be highly desired. For women I think the scale is also pretty good but only from the perspective of professional modeling.
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/23 01:52 PM
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I think the scale on the sub is pretty accurate for men and the ratings are fairly reflective of online dating dating looks requirements. 6/10 will get something, 7/10 will do well, and 8+/10 will be highly desired.
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/23 01:46 PM
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5 4.5 5 4.5 3 5
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/23 01:22 AM
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There is one element that you are missing here which is the man would pick something whereas we see women pick nothing and remain single.
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 06:36 PM
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Yeah I would say she is about .5 points better looking than him tops and it depends on the picture. Although as someone else pointed out celebrity relationships aren't relevant to this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 06:30 PM
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It depends on your country but if you are in the U.S. your looksmatch would be an ugly or obese woman that is around a 3 in looks. https://www.reddit.com/r/truerateme/comments/16hbhsx/33f_please_be_brutally_honest/
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 02:09 PM
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It is up to 3/4 now. https://web.stanford.edu/~mrosenfe/Rosenfeld_how_hetero_couples_met_through2021v4.JPG
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 09:45 PM
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Correct, they are just volcels.
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 03:03 PM
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Just go and rate people on /r/rateme and /r/truerateme
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 02:06 PM
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A 5'7 good looking (8+/10) guy is still going to do well. 5'7 average looking with a likeable personality will be able to get something although most likely not through online dating and he will have a hard time overall. I have two friends who are 5'7, one just got married at 26 and the other has had a long term girlfriend for years who wanted to marry him and he does well in the club scene. Both of them are average looking and neither are high earners. Being 5'7 is definitely a big handicap but…
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/23 05:21 PM
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I'm not sure why people downvoted you since you are correct. At 5'7-5'8 it is possible to compensate for your height with other characteristics. It isn't a good height but it is around the bare minimum where you can still scrape by.
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/23 04:14 PM
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He clarified that he just didn't find the girls attractive where he went and he wasn't able to build up a friend group as a foreigner. At least from his phrasing he had dating options but he just didn't like them. One thing that doesn't make since to me though is that he says he is moneymaxed but that he also didn't like that the girls were working low paying jobs which doesn't make much sense to me. I don't know if I'm fully convinced that this is really him. In his Face and LMS videos a few ye…
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/23 01:33 AM
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I was not expecting that ending lol. As the top youtube comment said "This pretty much proves that when women give their list of desirable things in mind, they want men thay groom, good careers, good hygiene, sense of humor, they say all this with the assumption youre a 6'1" testosterone filled model" If you aren't in the top 10-20% you are invisible.
/r/AllPillDebate19/08/23 11:27 PM
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Did you go to a commuter college? My siblings all went to dorm based colleges and they were all in relationships and their friends were in relationships as well. This was also about 5-10 years ago. Conversely at my commuter college people weren't particularly social.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 07:23 PM
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If one can't place one's high school graduating class on the looks scale from 1-9, yeah, one is probably over stimulated from not real life sources. By this statement are you saying you find them all to be 0s or are you saying if you haven't noticed any of your classmates you are overstimulated?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:41 PM
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In other words, would a shorter guy who struggles in today's dating world be more successful if he grew up in his parents generation? Yes, although mostly because the dating market was easier in the past and if you go back far enough dating didn't exist at all. I would say the desire for height is probably around 50% biological and 50% cultural. As a basic example one of my aunts is 5'0 and she has said that a guy would be too tall for her at 6'1. Whereas nowadays you will see 5'0 girls going af…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:22 PM
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One of my coworkers who was making about $60k a year, is 5'7"-5'8", and about a 5-5.5/10 in looks just got married at 26. His friends are all also either married or in long term relationships and none of them are in particularly good shape although I don't know how much money they earn. None of them are religious either. I will say though that I went to a fairly gender balanced seminar (probably 40% female to 60% male) about a year ago and halfway through the host asked all the single people to …
/r/AllPillDebate17/08/23 02:13 AM
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For online dating I would agree although height can carry to an extent in real life environments. For online dating 5'10-6'0 with a great face is substantially better than 6'5 with an average face.
/r/AllPillDebate17/08/23 01:51 AM
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In this comments defence, most Tinder photos do in fact suck. Most people's dating profiles suck in general, combined with being cookie cutter among one another. Conversely I will say that I've seen my sister randomly swipe through guys on Tinder before and in virtually no instances was the picture quality/environment the deciding factor. Good looks are still apparent in a selfie and bad looks are still apparent in professional photos.
/r/AllPillDebate17/08/23 01:42 AM
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Finding marriage minded men who are of decent quality is trivially easy as long the women don't have their standards raised to the moon. My sister has found numerous high earning ($150k-$250k) loyal guys who all would've been interested in marrying her and she has broken it off every time for petty reasons. Most of these women are just suffering from the Choice Overload Bias and then creating artificial reasons to justify their lack of making a decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 01:04 AM
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Yep, this "sarcasm" like "Finding a partner for a woman is just as easy as blinking" is just a fact. It is as easy or difficult as they choose to make it out to be. My sister who is about a 6/10 has had an endless stream of high earning men ($150k-$250k) to go out with on online dating and she always finds random things to complain about to justify moving onto the next guy. Such examples include not being entertaining enough, enjoying his hobby too much, not liking his hair color, or him not bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 12:58 AM
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Trends tend to show them remaining single or casually dating as opposed to settling for marriage with a lower tier man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 12:46 AM
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It's the loneliness that causes girls to be more proactive in trying to find a relationship At least from what I have observed it has nothing to do with loneliness and more to do with the fact that they know their fertility window is coming to an end. My sister didn't start dating with any purpose until she was almost 30, my brother's wife didn't until she was almost 30, my female cousin also got married at around 30, and my mother got married at 30. All of them were motivated for the same reaso…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 12:44 AM
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Yep, the birthrates alone naturally produce about 5% more males than females and then you add immigration on top of that which results in some of the wealthier countries having ratios of 110-120 males for every 100 females.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:56 PM
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I would say #3 and #6 look better without makeup, #1, #4, #5, and #9 are about the same either way, and #2, #7, and #8 are improved.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 04:50 AM
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The reality is that meeting online is by far the most popular way couples connect (source) and that was before Covid. It's not even close. That data has been officially updated through 2021 and it is up to about 54% now. source: https://web.stanford.edu/~mrosenfe/ Direct Image: https://web.stanford.edu/~mrosenfe/Rosenfeld_how_hetero_couples_met_through2021v4.JPG
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 12:14 AM
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It is also illegal in lots of countries which makes it less feasible as well. https://i.imgur.com/2NNsnpG.png
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 08:31 PM
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A minority of people meet offline now. The latest data from 2021 is showing that around 55% of people are meeting online. The second most common way at around 23% is for people to meet is at a bar which is another environment where looks are the most important although you might still have a better shot than you would online. A study by Stanford University found that couples who meet online are no more likely to break up than couples that meet offline. While I think meeting organically is optima…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:02 PM
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Those can all be elements of attraction however as online dating has shown if the guy isn't physically attractive he won't get any matches to begin with to show off his personality or values. I would argue that attraction starts with the physical and then everything else is about retaining that level of attraction. If you aren't physically attractive enough retaining your current level through good hygiene and cleanliness isn't going to help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:45 PM
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Very attractive guys are in high demand so they remain single by choice to have more freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:26 PM
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I think the key distinction is ugly by the dictionary definition which is someone who is repulsive to look at versus someone who simply isn't attractive. Guys who aren't found to be attractive are very common and when your looks never receive any appreciation that leads to them feeling ugly even if they aren't literally repulsive. In places that don't filter for more attractive people though most of the guys definitely fall into the unattractive category.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:23 PM
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basically everyone is in really good shape. Interesting, at least at my college most were healthy weight but very few were in shape or had muscles. I'd ballpark it at 10-20% of the guys were overweight or obese, 5-10% were in good shape, and the rest were just at a healthy weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:41 PM
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Not in STEM classes and at least at my commuter college (95% lived off campus) on campus activities weren't popular. This subreddit also has a heavy STEM bias from what I've seen for the guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 04:33 AM
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For bills that was just meant to encompass groceries, gas, and utilities. Yeah I guess it just comes down to what luxuries you want. The places that I enjoy going to (all you can eat KBBQ or sushi) are about $40 a person on the high end (after tax and tip) with $20-25 per person being more typical for the a la carte restaurants that I enjoy. Overall though it still sounds like $24k would be just about enough for you. For me personally $5k a year is plenty but I also don't personally value most o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 02:38 AM
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Assuming the rent is about $2k a month + lets say around $1.5k of miscellaneous bills that would leave you with $2000 per month of potential luxury purchases or $24k per year. I guess if you specifically want to fly first class that wouldn't go very far but at least for more basic things like having the latest technology or driving a nice new car it will be plenty. What type of luxuries are you thinking of when you say that $24k is insufficient?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 02:03 AM
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I will say that while the abysmal birth rates would be a massive issue I think we will likely have either artificial wombs or a primarily robotic work force before the issue is fully realized in about 60-70 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 05:46 AM
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Do you think many men would? Plenty of passport bros are leaving the country just to find women who make less money and will value them more. In addition the higher the guys income the less her income matters. My brothers are both top 1% earners and one's wife made about $60k with limited room for growth and my other brother's current girlfriend was making $25k with no room for growth. Having a higher income gives you the freedom to select based on other traits that you value more.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 05:37 AM
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I already live a pretty privileged life making 120k Exactly, if you aren't in an ultra high cost of living area 120k is already enough to buy pretty much all the luxuries you would want outside of super cars.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 05:23 AM
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At least in my city they are struggling to get teachers because it is one of the worst school districts in the country. If you live in a better city it wouldn't surprise me if teaching jobs are more competitive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 02:15 AM
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Yep, $80k is what nurses make in my city fresh out of college with a virtually guaranteed chance of getting hired and this in a city that only has slightly above average cost of living in the U.S. A teacher at public school makes $60k here and they get 3 months off every year + a pension. Getting hired is also virtually guaranteed fresh out of college. $130k is about where I would start calling an income successful and that is the top 10%.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 10:31 PM
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If he is expected to provide some type of financial support for the kids then I would say he is settling. If he doesn't need to provide financial support I would say they are fairly evenly matched ugly + fit physique vs wealthy + morbidly obese. She could almost certainly find a better looking guy but most likely not one who makes nearly as much as he does so it balances out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 03:06 PM
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Can you provide the data on daily match quantity percentiles it sounds interesting. I would've guessed that 3 matches a day would be around the top 10-20% not 1%.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 08:20 PM
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The data is also based on a pre online dating world. Those stats are going to look wildly different in the coming decades. Online dating in its current form has only really been around for about 10 years and most guys will tell you how much harder it has gotten add another 10-20 years to that and things are only going to get worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 08:13 PM
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How would you say you compare yourself to this guy: https://i.redd.it/th0hhh0zg6sa1.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 02:10 AM
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The study didn't require you to be married to not be considered single. Not being single was defined as anyone who was either in a relationship, married, or living together. https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/ft_2023.02.08_facts-single-americans_01.png
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 05:04 AM
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He is mixing up the percentage of guys who haven't had sex in a year with the percentage of guys who are single. /u/Youngking41
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 05:02 AM
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I've seen it numerous times as well it is usually phrased as "follow your purpose and women will follow" or in other be financially successful and then they will naturally appear. Even if it is true to a degree most guys won't be financially successful enough for the advice to be useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 07:03 PM
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It is among the most absurd claims I have seen on here. I would suspect that the true preferred frequency of sex for most guys would either be daily or something close to that. Whereas the average frequency I'm seeing is once every 5 days. In a cursory search I'm not finding any good data on the amount of guys who have daily sex but I'm guessing it is probably around 15% or less.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:26 PM
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I'd suspect that much of reddit, and PPD in particular is representative of the STEM class of guys which will have a much higher representation of sexually frustrated guys. I thought this was just common knowledge. Although I suppose over the past 10 years the number of non-STEM users has increased reddit still has a disproportionately large amount of STEM users in comparison to other platforms. /r/programming has 5 million subscribers, /r/cscareerquestions has 1 million subscribers, /r/pcmaster…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:13 PM
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Rock with hair, Statham, and Bruce Willis.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 01:05 AM
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You are correct. As a guy you either need to be born with desirable characteristics or an IQ high enough to get into the top 1-2% of income where you can make up for your other genetic deficiencies. If you have neither looks, wealth, nor status then you will never even come close to getting the same amount of options as a significantly below average woman let alone an average to above average one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 05:02 AM
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they don’t actually want a compliment or affirmation unless it’s from someone they deem attractive I would agree with that. If people who you don't care about give you a complement you will inherently value it less because of who it is coming from. For example, if a 20 year old guy is getting complements on his looks from 70 year old women but never from 20 year old women the complements aren't particularly appreciated because he is not interested in 70 year old women. In essence this is also wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 04:41 AM
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Aha, so you feel the reward is that the journey to achieve success will build up your discipline to a point that you will overall have a more successful life. I can see the reasoning to an extent but I would still argue that a substantial portion of men chase success/fame to get women so the actual reward over the tutorial players is very small.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 04:16 AM
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You didn't answer the question about the extra rewards. For example, if you were to claim the reward for your hard work is money the same would apply for tutorial mode players who also worked hard and earned money.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 04:08 AM
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Raise your shower per minute levels as high as possible and don't forget to try to be tall and good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 04:04 AM
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You are right on the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 03:59 AM
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Playing the game has better rewards than sticking to tutorial mode, What most guys would consider winning the game is being highly desirable to a majority of women and that equivalent is already achieved by default for the tutorial mode players. What extra rewards do you think men are getting over women in exchange for the increased difficulty levels?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 03:56 AM
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Being born with an ugly face is basically a death sentence for women. Women, however, lose their beauty over time, and have little to compensate for it, at least superficially. Perhaps 80 years ago but these days as online dating has demonstrated no matter how ugly, overweight, or old a woman is she will have plenty of options to choose from. This has been tested and demonstrated numerous times and it isn't purely attention for sex either. In summary, men have the PRIVILEGE of working for their …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 03:54 AM
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You got it. I believe that women have it easier than men in many ways
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 04:34 PM
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I think that the attention that people receive while in a filtered state boosts their ego and causes them to be more picky and choose other people assuming that their filtered looks level is their real life level. This is already happening though so I don't expect it to change any more significantly than it already has.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 03:40 PM
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I agree with you OP and I'll be interested to see what people try to argue against here. Those are all privileges that women enjoy that result in them having an easier life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 03:37 PM
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Just his bolded points are sufficient for his argument so I've turned it into a list. women have far more latitude with which to beautify themselves The conventional paragon of female beauty is easier to attain for many women Many women won't ever know the despair that comes with long-term romantic and sexual alienation. women by and large can get away with being significantly less funny, less socially skilled, and less effortful in conversation Most women can potentially make serious money sell…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 03:23 PM
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The billionaire can buy enough ads to become a famous musician. Look at how many top non-rap artists came from wealthy families.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 10:30 PM
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Being in the top .01% for any category you listed there will make you highly desirable. Personally, I think money or charisma are the best two options since you can buy status with money or you can use your charisma to make money easily as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 10:19 PM
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Of course men could also just offer commitment from the get-go and get a 5 or 6 if that's what they are themselves. In terms of relationships, couples all around the world are almost always looksmatched, in like 99% of couples you see. Women don't want commitment from undesirable men. Plenty of simps offer their commitment and money to women every day and it gets them nothing in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 10:04 PM
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He is probably the most attractive one. From what I have heard his channel has been switching to black pill recently though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 09:30 PM
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That is why these comics exist: https://i.imgur.com/W8KMLYM.png
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 09:18 PM
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63% of men between 18-30 are single1 (defined as not being in a relationship, married, or living together) so while you might see some young men in a relationship they are the minority and the trends are showing they are only getting more single not less. The odds of all 63% of them having unreasonably high standards just isn't realistic. In addition the women in that age bracket are only 32% single so they are still getting together with guys just not young guys for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 09:09 PM
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Because a man who is delusional will not see results in line with the delusion. If you tell a 5 he is a 9 and that he will crush online dating he is just going to get depressed when he actually gets no results.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 08:36 PM
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Exactly, when you are 5'3 and the average woman in the U.S. is taller than you it doesn't matter if you aren't fat you are simply too short to be appealing to her. One of my female cousins who is 5'1 flat out said she won't date "short kings".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 08:22 PM
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Don't worry you are still deserving of death and taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 07:13 PM
4

I'm a picky and critical person but that doesn't change the fact that I want to see who you consider to be an average 20-25 year old woman facially.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 07:05 PM
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She was meant to represent average facial features for someone who isn't fat. Link a woman who you feel has average facial features who isn't overweight in the 20-25 age range.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 06:56 PM
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The discrepancy comes from most people who aren't familiar with rating using 6.5-7/10 for average looks. This results in about a 2 point variance between the ratings you will find from people online vs offline. This woman for example has average facial features and would probably get around a 5-5.25 online but guys in real life would probably give her a 6.5-7 even though they are both describing an average person.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 06:49 PM
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Most men overestimate their attractiveness. Correct, I've found that most men are just bad at evaluating other men's attractiveness in general. They will frequently either overrate or underrate other guys which is why they are often confused as to whether a couple is actually looks matched.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 06:18 PM
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Yep, 5'6-5'7 is around the minimum height a guy can be before it starts to become a major issue. At 5'9 while your height isn't an advantage it is still tall enough for most women to be content with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 06:07 PM
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somehow out of average guys' league There is no mystery to it there is a supply and demand issue when it comes to dating. The demand for average and below average men is low while the demand for average and below average women is high. Or in other words since below average women have too many options on online dating to choose from they will naturally choose the best of those options which naturally results in the exclusion of men who otherwise would have been their equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 06:02 PM
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He is probably between 5'10 and 6'2.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 05:51 PM
1

What does she think will happen if you move out?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 12:52 AM
1

Maybe dating has become harder in this current time but I don't think that's true It has and the statistics make it quite apparent. It is also worth mentioning that most men aren't good at evaluating other men's physical attractiveness so while you might think he is below average it is possible that he is actually average to above average excluding something obvious like being overweight/obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 12:47 AM
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Oh so they would be fine with you living somewhere else in your city but they just don't want you to leave the state/country?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 12:44 AM
1

You are trying to improve your situation while you are still young so you will most likely be able to fix your predicament if you put active effort into it. It is also fine to have no friend group but as you already realized it will make finding a relationship more difficult. Personally for me I've always found it easy to socialize with people but when it comes down to it in my personal time I would rather be alone than do things with others so I haven't actively tried to expand my friend group …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 12:42 AM
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My parents aren’t comfortable with me living somewhere else. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 12:35 AM
1

Most men have had sex in the last year (US). An overwhelming majority in fact. A growing minority of 28% of men in the 18-30 year old range is not having sex but you are correct for now. More than 50% of men who are single are single by choice and not interested in dating at the moment or accepting advances. So the actual single-not-by-choice percentage is pretty low. You have to account for age and people lying to themselves. I'm not sure what data you are specifically referring to here but at …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 11:30 PM
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I'm extrapolating based on the amount of men who haven't had sex in a year, the trend of online dating getting more difficult every year for men, and online dating becoming the primary way to meet people. Financial institutions are also predicting that by 2030 45% of women will remain single. I'm curious what your optimism is based off of that around 95% of men will still be able to obtain sex and relationships despite the current data showing otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 10:45 PM
1

Because if some of the avenues are dead ends you will have wasted your time without having made any progress.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 06:54 PM
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98% of people have sex/dates/relationships in their lives Historical stats aren't particularly relevant in an online dating world. I wouldn't be surprised if we see that drop to 40-60% for males who were born after 2014 over the course of their lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 06:33 PM
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Having a healthy BMI already puts you in the top 30% Depends on the age range. The op of this chain was 18 at which point only around 56% of 18-25 year olds are overweight or obese. I will also say most women in the 18-25 year old range who are overweight but not obese would still be found attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 06:28 PM
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