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A lot of men will be interested if you are openly flirty and sexual with them. Women who are enthusiastic in bed are more attractive than better looking women who are not enthusiastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 12:05 PM
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90 would be too much even for me, but I've done milfs who were 10 years older than me.
/r/AllPillDebate14/01/23 11:34 AM
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If a profile is female it gets automatically dozens of likes per week on Tinder because guys swipe right on everything. The pictures or bio don't matter. A 90 year old granny gets more likes than me.
/r/AllPillDebate14/01/23 11:14 AM
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If your libido is much higher than your husbands, then I would assume your are sexually frustrated? Just like most men who have low libido wifes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 02:38 PM
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If you are sexually frustrated you could very easily get a man with a higher drive than you. But if you prioritise your current relationship over a fulfilled sex life, then that is your decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 01:35 PM
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Why would you as a woman stay with a man who has lower libido than you? There are vast numbers of men out there who would give everything for a woman who matches their libido, but are forced to live with low libido women due to no other options available. You could easily get a man who has a higher drive than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 01:29 PM
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I have to assume you are a woman, but have you ever considered that you only notice attractive men? Most men are totally invisible to you. The only men you actively think about are the very top percentiles of men you encountered that week or men who you were forced to interact with. A very large fraction of men are effectively invisible to women either because they are too ugly, too awkward or too shy and many men work in fields where there are no women. A lot of men spend most of their days not…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 03:17 PM
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An army of unmotivated drunkards who would rather sit in the corner masturbating than fight. Because for who or what are they fighting for? Protecting a wife and children is an extreme motivation for men. But if they don't have a wife or children, then what are they fighting for?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 03:20 PM
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Have you considered that your kids will not be a redheads or blonde? You are removing the redhead or blonde phenotype from the next generation by pairing up with them.
/r/AllPillDebate11/01/23 10:47 AM
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Plenty of cases where women show negative amounts of empathy for men who they think are undesirable. Women evolved to have empathy towards children, but not towards men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 04:32 PM
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Can you elaborate on that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 09:53 AM
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This makes absolutely no sense. But you say you are a girl. That means you have it easy to get guys. Have you tried Tinder? Your autism is not a problem, because guys don't care about it. And even very ugly girls can get dates and sex easily through dating apps, if they show a bit of skin on their profile pics. But do you even want to have dates and sex?
/r/AllPillDebate06/01/23 12:55 AM
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I honestly don't understand what your problem is. 2/10 is not 0/10. And as an average guy I simply don't have access to hot girls. I understand and accept that, but I have plenty of fun with less interesting or less attractive girls. I don't have a problem with this. I think it's a problem that 2/10 men have basically no hope of ever getting laid because guys like me are having fun with their match. But I definitely prefer sex with a 2/10 over being alone. I don't understand why you have an issu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 10:33 PM
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Definitely better than no sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 12:40 PM
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Because other women are not interested in me?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 12:09 PM
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Nope, even ugly women get thousands of likes on Tinder. One of my FWBs is maybe a 2/10 on a good day with makeup, but she has an active sex live and 9000 likes on Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 11:45 AM
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The woman would get thousands of likes on Tinder in less than a week, while the guy on the right would probably get less than 10 in the first week and maybe one on all the weeks after that. That woman would be approached and flirted with by many men in her every day life, while the man would go through his life almost completely unnoticed by any woman. He would have to put in active effort to get into any voluntary conversation with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 02:40 AM
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No we don't
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:28 PM
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That will never happen. Its like asking all men to boykott pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 10:37 AM
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Oh wow that is delusional. In that case it's her responsibility to say exactly that before agreeing on a date, but most guys I know would run and dodge that bullet. Thinking about settling down is something you can do after getting to know each other and if both passed each others vetting process and if the sex is amazing but not before that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 06:29 PM
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Why would he already be ready to commit to her when asking her on a date? A date is meant to get to know her and to start the vetting process. There can't be any commitment yet. Commitment starts earliest after several dates after the first vetting stage at which both agree on a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 06:16 PM
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The one bluepill opinion I have is that girls can realise that Chad did not treat her well and actually settle for a guy who treats her well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 09:50 PM
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No, I don't need attraction to have sex with a woman. As long as she is a woman and is enthusiastic about having sex with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 08:27 PM
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How do you get to that conclusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 08:25 PM
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Which is exactly how I ended a 2 year dry spell this spring and I might not get any hot girls, but at least I am getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 05:24 AM
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Incels might not be exactly average but in many places they are easily 30% of the male population below between 20 and 30 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 05:21 AM
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And so what? I am not going to tell them to their face that they are fat or ugly. That would just make everyone unhappy. But that does not prevent me from having them as friends with benefits in the sense that we are actually friends who have sex and sometimes even do things outside the bedroom together. Maybe for marriage I would try a bit more to see if I can get someone a bit more attractive, but right now I am enjoying my life
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 01:42 AM
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I don't care about attraction. I don't pretend to find her pretty. She isn't pretty but I don't care. I've had plenty of fun with girls I am not attracted to. In my opinion there is little correlation between her appearance and how good the sex is and I've had great conversations and in general a good time with girls that other guys would flat out reject. I used to think that a girl has to be at least hot enough that I am happy to be seen with her in public, but at some point I just stopped cari…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 01:29 AM
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As a man I don't understand this mindset. Even ugly girls can be a lot of fun. I would only reject a girl if I already have a better opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 01:12 AM
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I think I am actually quite blackpilled but recently started to get successful with girls. Not sure how, but I noticed a consistent pattern: Most girls are used to being mistreated by hot guys who don't care about her, because he has plenty of other options. Some girls only experience such kinds of interactions with men, because they have only ever been with the confident hot guys. That means some of the girls I met are genuinely surprised to be treated nicely, because they have never given a gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 01:02 AM
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What the fuck does the word "ethnic" mean? Everyone has an ethnicity
/r/AllPillDebate24/12/22 12:05 PM
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Problem is that the next generation will have more of his offspring and the problem gets bigger every generation. This is how civilisations collapse
/r/AllPillDebate23/12/22 08:59 PM
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It's not just about body language. The most sexy thing a woman can do is to be enthusiastic in bed and to initiate!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 04:05 PM
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Or if you were the only small brik and mortar electronics shop in your neighbourhood you used to get at least some customers, but nowdays everyone just orderes on Amazon, so you have to close your shop because you will never get any customers again.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 06:28 PM
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Amazon made shopping easier for the customer, but it's creating a monopoly and concentrates the sales and distribution in the hands of few, while thousands of smaller shops went bankrupt, but most people did not notice that because they are only customers and not sellers. Same is happening in online dating. The ones who would have it easy without OLD have it even easier, which makes it that much harder for average people, because on OLD everyone is both seller and customer.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 03:19 PM
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It's because women don't want that. They would be totally spammed by desperate guys.
/r/AllPillDebate14/12/22 05:28 PM
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I've heard too many stories about dead bedrooms in long term relationships, that I am not engaging such things. I don't believe in dignity.
/r/AllPillDebate14/12/22 09:27 AM
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If a woman says something like that about men in public she will be applauded for her courage. I just accept that women are like they are and I try to live my life in such a way that I am not too much negatively affected by their behaviour. Try only going for FWB and never commit to any woman. Always talk to at least two women at the same time and if one of them gets flaky immediately try to find another one. If you always talk to at least two, you will not get too attached to any of them and yo…
/r/AllPillDebate14/12/22 09:24 AM
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? What does that mean?
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 02:58 PM
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Do you actually believe that that is a looks match? I have no idea how that guy got her. Do you have an explanation?
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 12:59 PM
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I enjoy the sex. I have the choice between sex and no sex. So I chose the sex. What would you do in my situation?
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 09:03 AM
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Wow that guy is lucky
/r/AllPillDebate12/12/22 07:03 PM
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Yes. She has two tumbs on each hand. 4 thumbs in total. But the outer thumbs are paralysed. She can't move them, but has full sensory function. The inner thumbs are totally normal. Immagine your thumb had another thumb sticking out that you can't move. At least she is not fat. Yeah I consider myself quite lucky in the looks department but I am a slightly autistic physics student, so my only options to get sex are girls like her. Or obese 38 year old single mothers...
/r/AllPillDebate12/12/22 04:50 PM
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I like sex and she also likes sex. She is the best I can get and the sex with her is actually quite good. She is horny as fuck and jumps my bones every time I meet her.
/r/AllPillDebate12/12/22 03:47 PM
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Yes. She has more options than him. I am not as ripped as that guy, but otherwise look like him and I met a girl who looks like her, but has 6 fingers on each hand and is from Thailand now living here in Finland. She showed me her Tinder profile when we first met. 4500 Likes and 400 matches. A few weeks later she showed me her Tinder profile again. 7000 Likes and 500 matches. I have 30 likes and 20 matches. She told me to not get too comfortable because she can replace me by simply pushing a few…
/r/AllPillDebate12/12/22 03:30 PM
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What the fuck is ethnic supposed to mean? I know that it means something in the USA, but have you considered that the majority of the people on this forum are not Americans?
/r/AllPillDebate10/12/22 11:36 AM
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I don't agree with it, but I am a white guy living in Finland and I just started dating a Chinese girl, who looks at me like I am some kind of god, while Finnish girls show visible disgust when I walk past them. I have no idea how this difference is possible but it makes no sense. How did this Chinese girl get brainwashed into thinking I am attractive while Finnish girls would rather pepperspray themselves than talk to me?
/r/AllPillDebate08/12/22 10:25 AM
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Someone who can only get sex once per year by flying to the other side of the planet is still an incel. He has to pay for sex. That does not count.
/r/AllPillDebate08/12/22 10:20 AM
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That's wrong. There are plenty of white incels in Europe who can't afford to move to South East Asia.
/r/AllPillDebate08/12/22 09:15 AM
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This seems like a quite expensive event in an expensive location. There is a high probability that all these ugly men are loaded IT guys with the cash to attract post wall women.
/r/AllPillDebate04/12/22 09:36 PM
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What are you trying to say with this video? I watched it with the expectation that something blackpill would happen, but did not notice anything noteworthy.
/r/AllPillDebate04/12/22 09:34 PM
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The problem is that attractive people usually use contraceptives. Attractive people have it easier to have sex, but have no pressure to have children. While unnatractive people fear to be alone again so they make babies with other unnatractive people. Poor and unnatractive people who are able to get laid have more children than attractive people who have sex every day. Chads with 3 digit body counts can have 0 children nowadays, but an ugly 2/10 dude can have 10 children with his obese girlfrien…
/r/AllPillDebate04/12/22 12:03 PM
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There are many cases of good looking murderers in prison receiving fan mail and love letters from women who have seen his mugshot and wetted their panties because he is such a good looking bad boy.
/r/AllPillDebate01/12/22 06:31 PM
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This is the best summary of the redpill I have ever seen. Can you psit this text as a main post on this subreddit? This should be permanently pinned to the top
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 07:17 PM
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No, you are just the best he can get. I am sure I was usually just the best guy she could get, but for some reason women like to be told the lie that they were chosen for a specific reason. You were just the next best thing he could get his hands on. Deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:08 PM
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That is what dating is like for a lot of men. We just take the best we can get and if we are attracted to her or not is irrelevant as long as the only alternative is sitting at home alone and depressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 05:46 PM
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They can have standards if they want. Nothing wrong with that. If you are not happy being a virgin, then you need to lower your standards or shut the fuck up. ncels and *woe me* and wail in self pitty that they are kissless virgins. If you are not happy being a virgin then you need to lower your standards or shut the fuck up. Incels cant have standards by definition. If you have standards then you are not an incel.
/r/AllPillDebate16/11/22 05:45 PM
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Attracted in the sense of I find her attractive enough to convince myself that being with her is better than sitting alone at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 04:41 PM
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I've dated and hooked up with several girls who are definitely not my type, because they are my only options. If I would only pursue girls who are my type, I would be desperately lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 04:37 PM
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Fully agree. When I had no access to sex I could not immagine ever passing on the opportunity to have sex with a woman, but now that I have regular access to sex it definitely went further down on my list of priorities. If I know that I can easily get sex in the next days, then it suddenly is not that important any more if I get laid tonight or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 04:26 PM
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I always wonder how they got married because I know dozens of decent guys with good educations and jobs and they struggle to even get one date from any girl. I know lots of guys who have never had any relationships and they are in their late 20ies. Some of them are kissless virgins. But then you see literal criminals and sex offensers who have wifes. There seems to be a pattern here. Women are picky but often choose totally the wrong guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 11:52 AM
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Lots of men can't get any attention from women. How could they not be desperate? You as a woman will never be able to immagine what it is like to be completely rejected by the other sex. It is impossible to not be desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 08:02 AM
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My whole point is that there sre some reatards who call themselves "truecels" because they are kissless virgins in their late 20ies but at the same time they say that there are women who are interested in them, but these guys have too high standards and think these women are beneath them. That just makes no sense. You can only call yourself incel only if you really don't have any options. If there is any woman who wants to fuck you then you are not an incel.
/r/AllPillDebate15/11/22 11:00 AM
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Being volcel is OK. But calling yourself incel when you have options is just retarded and wrong.
/r/AllPillDebate15/11/22 08:05 AM
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That is why men commit suicide more than twice as often than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:43 PM
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"Abuse of empathy is a woman’s birthright. " What the fuck does that mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:27 PM
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What does being "thoughtful and mindful" mean in this context? Can you be a bit more precise or give examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:11 PM
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I don't understand this post, because I don't know what you mean with consideration or being considerate. Can you explain that in different words?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:06 PM
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Why? Which reason are you referring to? I am all in favour of female promiscuity. Without it I would not get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 10:33 PM
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It's simply because women are physically disgusted by male insecurity. It is an inate instinct for them to hate insecure men with every fibre of their bodies. This instinct evolved before and during the stone ages, where women had to rely on their men for survival. If a man was insecure, he was useless and women learned to instinctively avoid insecure and weak men. Women don't have any choice in this. It's simply their biological hardwiring to hate weak and insecure men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 10:11 PM
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I am not saying that. I am saying that if a man has the opportunity to have sex with a woman, but he chooses to not have sex with her despite having the option to, then this man is absolutely not an incel. If you have the option to have sex you are not an incel. Incels by definition have no choice whether they have sex or not. Because there are no women who would want to have sex with him. Incels don't have options. If you habe optons, then you are not an incel. As simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:54 PM
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Cold approach does not work, so I only try asking out girls I have encountered in some form before. She was the only one where I saw any chance. I did not chose her because she looked good or because she was popular. Quite the opposite I asked her out because she was unattractive and unpopular. I thought she is so undesirable I might actually have a chance because there are fewer men competing for her. I was hoping that she is so desperate that she might give me a chance. So she thinks I choose …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:51 PM
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If a man gets sexual attention from a woman and he he does not want to have sex with her despite not having any other options, then there is something wrong with that guy. If I would behave like that I would also be a virgin, but I enjoy sex, even if the women I have it with are not attractive. The definition of incel does not include men who choose to not have sex. Men who have options but choose not to engage in sex are absolutely not Incels. The term incel refers to only those men who cannot …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:43 PM
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I had no other option. She picked me. She was the only one who gave me any attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:35 PM
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You choose to not have sex with women you don't find attractive, even if they would be interested in you. A truecel is unable to get any attention from girls. So even though he has zero standards he still does not have any options. If you have options, then you are not an incel. No matter if you are a virgin or not. Incel means the inability to have sex. You seem to confuse the term virgin and Incel. They don't mean the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:30 PM
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No, I asked her out. But she was the only option I saw at the time. She was the only one where I saw a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:28 PM
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You keep proving you don't know what the word incel means. You've done that multiple times over. "involuntary celibate" If you are voluntarily celibate then you are not an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:12 PM
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Most women seem to be offended by the fact that you are only pursuing her, because she is the only woman who is interested in you. But for many men that is simply the case. I've dated girls who were my only option but then they ask me why I choose them. Of course I made up some cute lie on the spot to appease her. But obviously I was only dating her is because I don't have any other options.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:11 PM
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Are you being obtuse? There are no other women who would be interested in him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 05:51 PM
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The upper half of this comment is exactly what I would also say to you. If you're trying to prove you're an clown who doesn't know what the hell you're talking about then job well done. Obviously you can't comprehend anything that I'm saying because you're still going on with this nonsense about what an incel is or isn't. I know exactly what an Intel is you do not no matter how much you've convinced yourself that you do, you don't. All you're doing is making up definitions of what the word means…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 05:50 PM
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Most women seem to be offended by the fact that you are only pursuing her, because she is the only woman who is interested in you. But for many men that is simply the case. I've dated girls who were my only option but then they ask me why I choose them. Of course I made up some cute lie on the spot to appease her. But obviously I was only dating her is because I don't have any other options.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 05:47 PM
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My sex life only started at age 24 and has been getting better ever since. I know several men who are virgins in their late 20ies. They have their sexual years still ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 05:17 PM
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if a person actually likes they would show it in some way Many men don't know any women who show any interest in them. What should these men do, in your opinion? There are no interested women to which these men could move on. Or do you know what else these men could do ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 05:15 PM
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Are you serious? You obviously have no clue about the actual meaning of "Incel" Incel means that there is no woman who wants to have sex with you. If you choose not to have sex with women who would do it with you, then you are not an incel. Its simply the definition of the word and I cannot comprehend what you don't understand about the definition "involuntary celibate" You are not an incel. You are just a moron who chooses voluntarily to not have sex. That is perfectly fine and your decision, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 05:10 PM
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The problem with that is that for many men, that is the only option. Many men don't know any girl who already likes them, so the only option is to at least try to generate some kind of attraction in some girl. Otherwise, these men would be forever alone. it is not a good strategy. But it is the only option they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 04:16 PM
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Do you have any clue what the definition of "Incel" is? It literally means "involuntary celibate" You are saying that you choose to not have sex with specific women, because of your standards, even if they would be willing to have sex with you. That means you voluntarily choose to not have sex. That means you are not an incel. If you choose to not have sex then you are a "voluntary celibate" = "volcel" Don't call yourself an incel if you actually have options to have sex. If you ever complain ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 04:04 PM
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Most women have totally unrealistic expectations and refuse to settle for a guy they can get while perpetually chasing hot men, who don't need to settle down ever. These women choose to not settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 03:56 PM
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Most men never experience true female hornyness with their own eyes. Until I was 24 I had the genuine impression that women just don't get horny and that the female sex drive was a lie made up by the porn industry and Hollywood, simply because I had never seen any direct evidence of girls being horny. Only when I first got laid at age 24 did I find out that there are actually women who can experience lust when looking at me. For me that was a total revelation and it changed my life at age 24. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 03:54 PM
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Well I am going for the 2/10 girls and loving it :)
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/22 10:37 AM
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These guys are simply idiots. The same as the girls who claim that they can't find a guy, while they have 4000 likes on Tinder.
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/22 10:36 AM
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Weird. That means these men are not actually incels. If they choose to ignore certain types of women, then they are voluntary celebate. If I would have standards I would be a "volcel" but I don't have standards and I enjoy having sex every week even if the women I end up with are not that nice to look at.
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/22 10:31 AM
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No. Where do you get that misconception? Average men fuck whatever they can get their hands on, which are a few scraps and leftovers that Chad dropped.
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/22 10:27 AM
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If a woman like her can have standards like that, then it is truly over for average men.
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/22 08:30 AM
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Crazy. What you are saying here just does not compute in my head. When I see boobs I am fixated by them. The first thing I look at when I see a girl is her face and then my eyes immediately lock like a heat seeking missile at her boobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 10:09 PM
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I have never understood the attraction some men have for the behinds of women. I am a 100% boobs guy and I just don't care about ass. I prefer that her ass is not noticeable at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 06:26 PM
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As a woman all you need to do it to look good, be friendly and to show interest in him. It is super easy to turn on men. Just show interest in them and they will all yours.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/22 09:00 AM
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I've never had a woman like her show interest in me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 07:40 PM
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I want a marriage and kids at some point, but I don't want children with her. I mean she has a birth defect that should probably not be passed on to the next generation
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 11:41 AM
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I don't. If a woman shows interest in me I will not turn her down. My current FWB has 4 thumbs. So 6 fingers on each hand and is also a bit disfigured in the face, but I very much enjoy the sex with her and would not reject a woman for her looks. I won't marry her, but that is another question.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 10:33 AM
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They would receive plenty of attention if they would go on Tinder and swipe right on average or below average men. But if you check the r/ForeverAloneWomen subreddit, they don't even want to use online dating apps or if they use dating apps then they don't like the kind of men who would be enthusiastic about meeting them. Sure if they only swipe right on male models then they will get ghosted a lot, but there are much more lonely men than lonely women out there and the women would be much less l…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 09:44 AM
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r/ForeverAloneWomen They sit around in self pity while hiding away from men who would be interested in them and pretending that no man wants them while they make sure that absolutely no man even knows about their existence. And they keep up unrealistic high standards, because they are offended by the thought that a guy is only interested in them, because he can't get any better, even though that is how men operate. Men simply go for the best they can get, no matter how low that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 09:28 AM
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You are not a truecel if you have standards regarding her looks. I am not an incel and I enjoy sex several times per month because I simply take what I can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 07:43 PM
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As a man I need to keep my standards low otherwise I would never get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 07:26 PM
1

Well she has a wet pussy and wants to have sex with me. That thought alone is enough to get me hard. What else do you need?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 04:54 PM
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I am very happy about having sex with her, but she is objectively unnatractive. So there is no problem there. When she wants to fuck I am obviously not saying no.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 04:31 PM
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If he could get his acne under control, he would be much more attractive. I'm a guy and I spent the whole video being uncomfortable with the massive pimples on his face. I am really sorry for him, but that is an issue that can be fixed. He must go an see a skin doctor. There are ways to treat acne and that would really help him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 04:19 PM
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No, I fully disagree with that. But I need to end the conversation now. This is going nowhere. We can't even agree on the basic meanings of words and logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:43 PM
1

No Zero attraction does not imply disgust. Disgust implies zero attraction. In what way is that difficult to understand for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:38 PM
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I am fine with zero attraction. But I am not fine with her being disgusted by me. It is possible to be not attracted to a person but also not disgusted. If you don't agree with that then there is no way to explain it to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:34 PM
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What do you mean with facts here? I am not contradicting myself. And you did not answer my questions from before: What percentage of men do you find attractive? What percentage of men are you disgusted by?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:28 PM
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"Not attracted to" does not mean "disgusted by". If you don't agree with that then there is no way to explain this to you. Sorry, but your female brain seems to be unable to immagine what is going on in my head and I ran out of ways to explain it to you. I am sure most men would instantly agree with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:26 PM
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"Not attracted to" does not mean "disgusted by". If you don't agree with that then there is no way to explain this to you. I am totally fine with her not being attracted to me, but I am not fine with her being visibly disgusted by me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:21 PM
1

No, there are many girls I am not attracted to but who I am also not disgusted by. Is that not the case for you? Are there any men you are not attracted to but also not disgusted by? This is what I mean that we seem to not be able to understand each other because men and women see the world in such different ways. Maybe for you there is no such things as not attracted but also not disgusted. A: What percentage of men do you find attractive? B: What percentage of men do you find disgusting? For m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:02 PM
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I think we are hitting a fundamental roadblock because men and women experience the world in such different ways that you cannot follow my logic and I can't understand yours. If she touches me, but starts crying halfway and has to gag when she looks at me, that would obviously be a massive turnoff. But if she does not have such extreme reactions, I would be fine with her not finding me attractive. Again: there is a massive difference between not fining someone attractive and finding someone disg…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 02:53 PM
1

How can we be intimate if she does not want to touch me? I can't and won't force her to touch me. If she can't convince herself to touch me, then we can't have sex, because that would be rape. I really don't understand what you don't understand here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 02:41 PM
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Because if she is repulsed by me that kills the mood and it hurts emotionally to be rejected I have the impression you as a woman cannot understand that we men can be sexual with women we are not attracted to. There is a wide gap between women we are attracted to and women we are disgusted by. I am sure I am disgusted by less than 1% of the local girls in my age range, while I guess you are disgusted by at least 80% of the men who try to get into your pants. This seems to be a fundamental differ…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 02:32 PM
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I want to be attractive enough for her to not be disgusted by the thought of touching me and hugging me. As long as that is the case I am perfectly fine with her not finding me attractive. I can find a woman not attractive at all but at the same time not be disgusted by her. Maybe for women that is difficult to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 01:57 PM
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Well there is a huge difference between not being attracted and being repulsed. I honestly don't find my FWB attractive. She is quite ugly, but I still deeply enjoy cuddling her. Feeling the warmth of her body. Touching her and getting touched by her. She is ugly but not disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 01:52 PM
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If she would be visibly repulsed by me, that would be a very sad turnoff. With intimacy I mean regular cuddles both clothed and naked. Sleeping in the same bed. Gentle touches. That is what many men are dreaming of.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 01:47 PM
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If I get sex and intimacy and cuddles and kisses in exchange, then yes. If she just uses me for money without giving me anything then I would obviously say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 01:41 PM
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She is not attractive, but she is the only one who wants to have sex with me. So for me it is an obvious choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 01:18 PM
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Young people are having less sex than the young people used to have just a few decades ago. Sexlesness amongst 18 to 30 year olds has is also been on a steep rise in the past decade, while teenage pregnancies are getting less and less common. So people are having less sex overall. Some young people rack up very high body counts, while most, especially most men barely get any sex at all. And there is a trend to have sex with several different partners but less sex overall. 20 years ago it was com…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 12:39 PM
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I honestly can't see women as truly equals because women are too different and experience the world in such a vastly different way than men. But that does not mean that we disrespect you. I know several women who I deeply respect based on their academic achievements. As a guy who has studied and worked in heavily male dominated fields, girls always stand out and can't bee seen as a true equal, because they are so rare, visibly different and because they behave not like men. I have met several gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 08:25 AM
2

He is trying to be over the top to make a point how stupid female logic is.
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/22 08:00 AM
1

Super strange. My current FWB is from Thailand and she is honestly quite ugly, but she can't get enough of my dick. She is always horny when I am at her place and that is something I have never experienced with a white girl, despite me being white.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 04:23 PM
1

So you are white guy in South East Asia? Why are they attracted to you? Are you rich?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 04:20 PM
1

How? Are you a Chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 04:18 PM
1

What is your secret?!?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 04:17 PM
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M28 here. I currently have 2 FWBs and am talking to another girl, who seems to be interested in some fun with me. But the two FWBs are quite unnatractive according to conventional standards. One is 26 and a recent immigrant from Thailand. She is a bit disfigured and has 4 thumbs and even with makeup would maybe be a 2/10. But she likes to fuck and cuddle naked and that's all I need. The other one of my FWBs is 37, so 9 years older than me, has 2 children is twice divorced and overweight, but she…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 04:13 PM
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No, we men don't defend fat men. But even we skinny men fuck fat women, because they are the only options we have.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 11:20 AM
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Where? I need to find them
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 05:28 PM
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I had my first proper date at age 24 and I know several guys who are virgins in their late 20ies. As a man I say that this is quite normal to have zero romantic and sexual experience at mid 20ies, especially for guys who study engineering. I know as a woman it is difficult to immagine how common that is because these are the men that you as a woman never interact with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 05:27 PM
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I know. My current FWB is objectively ugly and she has 4000 likes on Tinder and she told me when her Ex broke up with her she had a bodybuilder in her bed destroying her pussy just 4 hours after her boyfriend left. Thanks to dating apps men have become totally disposable.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/22 09:36 AM
4

That means you are one of the Chad's or at least a "chad light"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 09:08 AM
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Absolutely not. When I did my bachelor I had zero access to girls and most of my friends were in the same situation. I lost my virginity at 24 despite going to parties, bars and nightclubs and trying to pick up girls there during my early 20ies, but it never worked. I know guys who are still virgins in their late 20ies.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 08:48 AM
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I live in a country where sex workers are legal, but they are too expensive for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 08:06 PM
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I've actually seen many university educated women date down in terms of education, while male physics and engineering PhD students stay virgin well into their 30ies. So in my experience women are not too picky about education, but very much picky about looks and confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 07:31 AM
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He has a point though. She even has a birth defect that she has 4 thumbs. Not kidding. But she is horny and a biological female. That is all I need. And as long as I can get that I am OK, with a girl that I would not call pretty
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 09:28 PM
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I recently showed a good friend of mine a photo of the girl I am currently seeing and he straight up told me that she is ugly as hell. I know that she is not pretty, but she is all I can get. If I have the choice between my hand and her, I am obviously going to choose her. I am not going to marry her, but why would I not sleep with her, if she wants to sleep with me and I don't have any other options?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 07:34 PM
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You are confusing sexlesness with singleness. Women can get sex so easily that they are only sexless when they choose to simply not have sex. To not have sex, a woman has to actively turn down advances from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 03:01 PM
1

Which part of my skin do you want to see? I don't have cleavage and I am sure you are not aroused by my ancles.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 07:09 AM
7

It's always so sad to see the disturbing amount of hate directed towards Incels, especially from women. Why do you hate incels so much? Most of them are just sad and lonely. Telling incels that they should kill themselves is like stomping on someone's neck just because they are already lying helplessly on the ground. You punish the ones who are already punished by life. Women seem to enjoy widening the inequality between men. They actively hate lonely men and love men who are already taken.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 04:00 PM
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Been on the receiving end of that hatred. Every tiny mistake I did made her visibly angry. For example I forgot the name of one of the painters that she likes and I could see how she was struggling to contain her anger or whenever I had to admit that I did not know where the correct exit from the subway station was she had to bite her lips to not shout out in rage. She really tried to live with that but in the end she could not and told me that she never had feelings for me and that I was simply…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 08:17 PM
1

I only found out at the very end when it was already over between us. If things would have gone better with these two girls they would have tried to keep it secret for longer and I might have proposed to one of them before finding out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 08:15 AM
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Yes, I as a man am quite confused by that too. I agree that a very promiscuous woman might have it difficult to fully pair bond with only one man later in life, but there is no way of figuring out how many she has been with before. One summer I've dated and slept with an innocent looking shy girl, who was not popular with the guys but she was friendly to me and I almost felt like I am doing her a favour for being intimate with her. But then after we broke up she told me that she had slept with s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 03:22 AM
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Women don't even know what they want so why do you expect us to know what you want? I've hooked up a few times and I've always asked her what she wants, what she likes, what I can do to get her off etc, but I usually don't get any useful replies. The women I met don't know what they want in bed and expect us men to just get it. That is simply not how it works. If you want him to do something specific then you need to tell him. We can't read your minds and even if we could we would still not get …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 11:14 AM
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I (M28) currently have an older woman (37) as fuck buddy. I encourage other guys to also seek out arrangements like that. Girls my age are not interested in me and I would be an incel if I would not go for women older than me. The sex with her is amazing and I greatly enjoy it with her. So when I hear a younger guy scoring a sexual relationship with an older woman I am happy for him. He gets his needs met and when I was younger I would have loved to have something like that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 02:13 PM
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It's not just a belief, it is what we see every day with our own eyes and by talking to our friends. We all know some good looking guys who have a constant streak of casual sex with different women and then there are men who don't get any sex. Good looking men can get casual sex with a different woman every week if they put in the effort and can get a new girl every other month if they don't put in any effort. I have a really good looking charismatic colleague who tells that several girls that h…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 10:47 AM
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But at the same time there were virgin men who were unable to get any attention from girls. The men you saw with 2 or 3 women are part of the top 20%. They are more visible than other men, but they are an exception. There are 3 different types of people in the dating market. 1. Attractive men. 2. Women. 3. Unnatractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 10:28 AM
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If women would approach more it would simply mean that the top 1% men will get asked out dozens of times per day, while most men still won't receive any attention. Women do ask out men, but they almost always go for the most unobtainable men and then wonder why they were rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 09:53 AM
1

No, I have never turned down a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 09:53 PM
1

There are 365 days in the year and these women war in their 30ies
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 09:52 PM
3

What?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 11:12 PM
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Because he was already busy? You don't cancel plans with other people last minute even if she is super hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:25 AM
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He just did not get it. I am sure he would have been enthusiastic if you would have told him that you want to be his girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:11 AM
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Guys are conditioned that 99% of girls have zero interest in them and get called creeps if they misinterpret a girls friendlyness. If one girl actually has interest it's such a rare occurrence for most guys that they seriously don't understand what is happening. Don't assume he does not like you until he explicitly stated that he is not interested in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:08 AM
2

I shame women for only wanting the top men because that means these women are not pursuing me. I want them to give me a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 10:00 AM
1

There is a woman I have been meeting a few times this Summer and Autumn and appart from Bus tickets to get to her place I did not spend anything extra because of her.
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/22 09:58 AM
1

Well, if she demands me to spend more because of her, then she is not the right one for me. Isn't it cheaper to buy things for two people? Living alone is more expensive per person than living together.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/22 05:32 PM
2

As a man I would actually say that PPD gives me hope that it is possible to find a woman out there and that there are women who want sex and who want men. And it helps me dodge bullets, so I would say PPD is quite helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 01:45 PM
1

What do you mean with afford a gf? I am not going to pay her to be my Gf. In Europe we split bills.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/22 09:12 AM
1

Oh well that is a risk, but I think the Internet has taught me enough about toxic relationships that I would notice that early enough.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/22 06:28 AM
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If she treats me badly I will end the relationship. If she wants to leave, then she will do so. I don't understand your argument because I don't see the downside for myself. I get to spend time with a girl and if we vibe, we vibe and if we don't vibe both of us will move on. That is exactly how dating works and nothing unusual.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/22 05:55 AM
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Obviously yes, because do I have a choice? If she is the best I can get then why should I not date her? If she had better options than me she would not message me.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/22 05:50 AM
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M28 lost my Vcard at 24 even though I really wanted to do it earlier. And I know several guys my age who are still virgins. You are just going for the wrong guys. A man who is good looking has options and will act on them, while a lot of guys who don't have options stay virgins until their late 20ies or even 30ies because they so have options. If you want a virgin man you just have to lower your expectations regarding his looks. Obviously a hot guy is not going to stay a virgin if he has girls t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 11:33 AM
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Because you are a woman you might not be able to understand this, but I am more turned on by girls that I think are in realistic reach for me than by girls that are out of reach for me. Sometimes I see a stunning model on the street, but I know that she will never give me any attention, so I don't even bother looking at her, but when I see a girl that looks more approachable or a girl that is giving me attention then that is much more interesting for me. I know that I don't have any chance with …
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 10:12 AM
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M28 have more options now than ever before. Did almost not receive any attention from women before I hit 24. I've been between 65 and 70kg since I was 18, so weight cannot explain the difference. I had multiple crushes since late elementary school, but only managed to get dates after I turned 24 and got the confidence to ask out women through dating apps and then lost my virginity after 10 years of being horny and desperately alone. I've always been attracted to girls 18-25 and that hasn't chang…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 05:31 AM
1

Sure gay men are more picky than straight men, but women are even much more picky than that.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/22 05:35 PM
1

Gay men are much less picky than straight women.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/22 01:04 PM
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How the fuck are the reccomendations for her in the article literally "Yas girl you got this you do you and don't feel guilty about chucking and cheating on your husband fir 25 years." They should at least tell her to be honest with her husband so that he can file for divorce. Immagine the outrage if a man would admit something like that. The double standards are unreal and women are not accountable anymore at all.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/22 06:39 AM
2

The difference is that ugly women still have access to men, while a significant fraction of men have no access to women at all.
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/22 02:59 PM
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I don't have standards regarding looks and personality etc. My only requirement is that she wants to have sex with me. And I am one of the lucky ones who is able to find ugly women who actually want to sleep with me. So I am not an incel, but the only options I have are either massive overweight or have speech impediments or are quite unfortunate in the face area. But I don't reject them.
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/22 07:51 AM
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No it isn't. I've tried searching for something like that before and could not find anything that did not look sketchy. Also hygiene is a major concern with prostitution and for many men it is a terrible experience knowing that she actually hates you but only tolerates your presence because you pay her. I have never paid for sex and I don't think I can. I am too poor for it and the thought of a woman only being intimate with me because I pay her feels depressing to me.
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/22 07:25 AM
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If sex would be easy to get then there would not be so many sexless men. Sex is only easy to get for top 10% of men and for women.
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/22 07:18 AM
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People like her because she looks good despite her personality. No one likes her because of her personality. But women seem to prefer men for their psychopath aggressive personality not despite of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 04:07 PM
1

If it lasted for 14 years without any expectations for commitment, then there is really not much that can seperate you once you expect commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 01:49 PM
3

Wow, 14 years and counting as FWB? Why are you not married to each other at this point? I mean seriously if you are that compatible that you have been meeting for 14 years, then you should just call it a proper relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 01:39 PM
2

Yes. Is that controversial? If they would not settle for me I would be very lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 02:03 PM
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I want women to lower their standards so that I have a chance to get one of them. I don't understand what exactly is controversial or contradictory about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:46 PM
2

In what way? I can be blackpilled and still be fortunate enough to get laid. But I see that for some men it is impossible or at least very difficult and that is what the blackpill is saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:39 PM
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Definitely, I recently hooked up with a girl who is sadly quite disadvantaged in the face area, but has nice tits and is fit, but I don't see myself in an LTR with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 08:36 AM
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Just to clarify that I am not a virgin or incel and have actually had successfull interactions with women. But none of them gave me immediate signals in the first few seconds of meeting them. I would say that is a large enough sample size to question OPs claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 07:20 AM
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The problem is that most men almost never experience any girl being obviously into them. I've had sex with 10 women so far and I am sure none of them was obviously into me in the first minutes after we first met. At least I definitely did not see any obvious signs in the first few minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 07:04 AM
0

My body count has reached 10 recently so you would assume that I have some experience, but I am certain that I have never met a girl who was enthusiastic from the moment she first saw me. I am sure with these girls I was always just barely above her attraction threshold for her to consider me, but I never had the impression that she is obviously into me. Girls never jump my bones and I don't know what it means to see her eyes light up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 07:00 AM
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That is definitely not specific to Western society. In almost all societies around the planet the top 1% of men usually are not monogamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 03:28 PM
1

Hey, wow so you are a sex worker? I've heard many sad stories about sex workers telling how disgusted they are by their customers and how much they hate their customers, but they still do the job because they need the money. I don't think I could use the services of such a woman, because knowing that she is disgusted by me and that she only forces herself to be intimate with me to pay her rent feels wrong. I would love to find a sex worker who actually enjoys her work. But how do I do that? I wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:13 PM
2

We want what we can't get.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 07:49 PM
1

I was able to so far get 2 FWB with women who were recently divorced and 8 years older than me, but I would not marry a woman who is that much older than me and they were also not looking for anything serious. But one of them told me that she wants to look for something serious and told me good bye and the other one almost never has time for me. I see her on average once per month even though I ask her every week
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 07:46 PM
1

Sex is too expensive. I can't afford to spend a significant amount of my income on sex and I also prefer to have sex with the same person consistently. Also knowing that she does not like me at all is a horrible feeling and ruins the whole experience. Sex is not just about having an orgasm, it is also about feeling accepted and feeling that she is comfortable around me. That is something a sexworker simply cannot provide no matter how good their acting skills are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 11:55 AM
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The "lame ass orbiters" are competing for her. Or at least that is what they are thinking. A lot of men are in that situation and it is depressing to know how little regard women have for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 08:14 PM
7

I (M27) have been on several apps for 4 years now and there is no sign of that changing any time soon, which means I am part of that permanent male lower class.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 04:54 PM
0

I've never had one. Girls always ghost me before we get there or I move to a different country.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 04:07 PM
4

What do you mean with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 07:44 AM
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No that is absolutely not cool. A lot of guys have no luck in highschool and are handycapped for the rest of their lives because of that, while the popular guy in highschool has the confidence that attracts more women, so the dating experience of men is vastly different. It's a "the winner takes it all" situation and it absolutely sucks to be one of the 80% who are the loosers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 07:41 AM
0

I've never had a healthy LTR, so I don't think I am qualified to answer to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 07:33 AM
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Most men only stay with their girl because of lack of other options. Leonardo Di Caprio chooses to change out his girl because he is absolutely certain that he will get another one without putting in any effort, while the average man will struggle to replace his girlfriend and would risk staying alone for several months or years until he gets another chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 10:31 PM
2

What is a femcel?
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/22 11:36 AM
2

I don't know what planet you live on or you just find the majority of men ugly. There are several studies that show that women don't know how attractive the average man is. If you tell women to rate a random sample of men, they lable 80% of them as below average. I guess that is what is happening here. Most average women end up with average men, but women think that the average man is ugly in comparison to the average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 07:30 AM
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I don't have anything against promiscuous women, because if they would not exist, I would not get laid. So I am greatful they exist and I don't shame them. I am just worried about hygiene and sexually transmitted diseases. A woman I slept with this summer told me that she got Chlamydia and I had to get tested, but I was negative.
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/22 07:22 AM
2

I've seen plenty of guys who date fat and unattractive women just to get a chance of getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 07:20 AM
4

What science? Do you have some peer reviewed journal articles to back up your claims? Too many people nowadays use the word "science" out of context and without understanding what the word actually means. Defining what science really is, is difficult, but it definitely does not mean "that scientist said so"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 07:37 AM
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How the fuck do you come to this conclusion? Its not what I've seen. There are plenty of decent looking guys who are so desperate that they marry women who are almost twice their weight just to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 07:35 AM
3

Seems like you really don't understand that some men have no standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 07:30 AM
10

Very well written. Its sad that sophisticated people like you are ridiculed for the sole reason of lack of sex. Women are shallow. There is probably nothing really wrong with you. You just might have been unlucky. I wish you the best, especially for your mental health.
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/22 10:24 PM
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There are almost no forgotten women, because even the most ugly women have access to free dick. You underestimate how low the standards of horny men can go. Even a somewhat decent looking guy would smash a forgoten spinster if he gets a chance and she knows that. So why would she ever consider the undesirable men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 09:12 PM
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His text lists it very clearly. Have you not read it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 09:07 PM
1

I would have loved to have more interaction with women in my life, but wherever I went there were no or only very few women. I would be very happy if women would show interest in the kind of stuff I am doing, but that hasn't been the case so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 06:06 PM
4

But that means they have their own club and are not talking to boys who are into robotics stuff. This is gender segregation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 04:42 PM
1

Yes, the concept of women being interested in my stuff seems quite alien to me. Had no idea that that could be an issue for other men, while I would have assumed women constantly have the problem of thirsty men infiltrating their circles. What kind of stuff are you doing where women/girls have tried to infiltrate? Are you exceptionally good looking or are the people you are hanging out with very good looking?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 02:52 PM
2

What do you mean with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 02:19 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/xnfw8l/what_are_the_reasons_groups_for_males_and_boys/iptv9j9?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 01:44 PM
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I was in a robotics club in highschool and there were no girls. My highschool had a student lab in which we could do our own projects for science competitions. No girls there. At university I played icehockey. No girls there. Currently I work on a CubeSat project for my PhD. No women there. I tinker around with old PCs as a hobby. Certainly no women there. I really seem to be cursed in the way that whatever I do is what no woman is interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 11:52 AM
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I don't know what you are talking about. Most of the groups in which I am have zero females and no woman has ever shown interest in joining us. But I know many cases where men go to certain events of groups just because there are lots of women there. I am sure women have a huge issue with men joining just to get female attention. But I as a man have never experienced infiltration by women. I would actually love to see more women in the activities I have been active in, but that won't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 09:52 AM
1

Wow, that is an interesting take that I even at age 27 haven't heard before. Seems to make sense. The nerve endings that are at the tip of my penis also exist in your body, but they are at the tip of your clitoris. I actually don't like to be touched at the balls during sex. So you are saying that the penetration itself is something like that? So most of your pleasure during sex comes from stimulation to the clitoris? I just find it funny that you saying the female orgams is not important is bas…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 09:20 PM
1

I keep asking her what she wants and what I could do better or if everything is alright or if she wants me to do it differently, but I usually don't get any replies to these questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 05:20 PM
2

I don't know where you have heard that men don't want feedback. I as a man have never heard that. That sounds ridiculous to me, but maybe I am an outlier in that. I know that I am definitely not a sex god, but I want to improve and need the feedback and instructions for that. But how would all the inexperienced men ever get experience if women would only sleep with highly experienced men? That sounds like you all want to have sex with the same guy while ghosting 90% of the male population. No wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 03:43 PM
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I just tried to get into the game and get experience, but for that I had to drop all standards or requirements. Otherwise I would not get any experience at all. I would be happy to "fix" a subpar girl, but women don't want to see men's struggles and just wait at the finish line to pick the winner.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 03:39 PM
2

I don't ask other men. We don't talk about stuff like that. That is something private that I want to discuss only with the person I am intimate with. But women don't seem to want that. I am trying to read her body language, but that is difficult and not very precise. I would much prefer to get some actual instructions or her showing me what to do like for example guiding my hands until I am doing it right.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 03:20 PM
2

The problem is that even when touching her some women refuse to give and meaningful feedback. I usually ask if there is anything I should do differently and I usually just don't get any reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 02:48 PM
9

Stuff like that should be shown to every man who considers marriage.
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/22 01:27 PM
1

My rate of getting ghosted after a first date is >50% and almost never have sex after a date, even though I would love to. I've had a 4 hookups but of them 3 ghosted me afterwards. The other one politely told me that she does not want to meet again. I've had 2 FWBs for a few weeks each and and 2 girls whom I dated for 3 months one of which never let me touch her. The FWBs were gladly OK with teaching me things and I am now at age 27 finally at the point where I think I know what I am doing in be…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 01:21 PM
1

I've lived in several different countries in the past few years and the moving meant that I had to end things with 2 girls already. How the fuck do they fall in love with you? That just does not happen with me. I have never had to tell a girl that it is over because either I moved away or she ghosted me. There was never any other reason why things ended. I would consider it 1 session if it is one visit. Well the 4 women I only saw once did not orgasms and I guess that is why they ghosted me afte…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 12:30 PM
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Hmm, interesting. On the one hand I would love to meet you but ont he other hand it's quite depressing that an unexperienced guy has no chance at getting better if every woman would do what you do. I have caught strong feelings on the first date before and I even catch feelings on ONS, but these girls usually ghost me next day. I think I am just bad in bed then but don't know how to improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 12:22 PM
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Oh, wow as I said I always ask to meet again but they are the ones who leave or ghost me. Or I move to a different country. Never had a girl falling in love with me. I have had 4 ONS, but also 4 others which I met several times. One FWB with whom I am still in contact always tells me she came at least 5 times every time we do it and we usually do it early in the evening, then just before going to bed and then again in the morning after waking up. That is already 15 orgasms for her in just 1 meet…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 12:14 PM
2

Hm, I guess that explains it. Women have such an abundance of men that they don't have to fix a subpar guy if they can just get the next one. That really sucks being that guy though. And I have my Flair, because I recognise that there is massive inequality in the dating market. There are some men who have no hope of getting laid, while some men get asked for sex by women. It is especially cruel for shy men, because they miss out on early experience, while the guys who already aggressively pursue…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 12:11 PM
1

But why do you only meet them once? I always ask to meet again. I don't know how many of their orgasms were fake, but I am sure my ratio of orgams per partner is surely over 10 without ever having had a long term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 11:34 AM
2

I honestly don't get it. Can you explain it as if I am 5? So you have sex with men. But you don't want to have orgasms?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 11:14 AM
2

So you are a lesbian?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 10:23 AM
1

Thanks for not faking it!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 10:19 AM
3

.If it was because he was a virgin or inexperienced or hadn't had a willing instructor but willing to learn, I'd give it a shot. Yes, thanks!!! Please, we need more women like you!! Too many women refuse to teach men how to have sex. And too many women refuse to even look at a male virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 08:57 AM
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3:1 ?!? Like you made every partner only cum 3 times? Did you only spend one evening with each of them? Even that sounds comically low. You know that women can have 10 orgasms in a row of you keep stimulating her?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 08:55 AM
1

Yes, while virgins would stay virgins forever. That would totally break society. Hypergamy on steroids.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 08:53 AM
1

Yes, I would absolutely love to see that. Why the fuck do women still fake orgasms?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 08:52 AM
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What do you mean with that? Why would old men have huge numbers? A lot of men have no clue of how to make their wife cum. I would expect to see young women with absurdily high numbers dating guys who have a 0 above their head
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 08:46 AM
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Men know that women fake. But at the same time I say if she fakes it, it is her own problem. If she does not tell me what I am doing wrong then it's her problem. If she refuses to tell me what I should do, then it's her problem. I like listening to her instructions and like focusing purely on her pleasure, but women seem to not like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 08:44 AM
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Have you ever been with a man? Do you give him instructions? Do you tell him if he is doing something wrong? Of not, it's your own fault. If you don't communicate then it's your own fault that he won't make you cum.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 08:41 AM
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Yes that would be good. Just for fuccks sake stop faking it!!! You are hurting yourself and other women and him with that. If he is doing it wrong you have to tell him. Otherwise he will never improve
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 08:40 AM
2

Most of the enjoyment I get from sex is to feel like she is having a good time and to feel appreciated. Me orgasming is just one aspect, but I care about her having a good time. I just have the impression that women don't care about having a gold time herself. Some women seem to just want it be over and refuse to talk or openly communicate during sex and then it's her fault for not enjoying it if she does not tell me what I am doing wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 08:38 AM
2

I learn from what the women I am in bed with tell me. If you think men should "just get it" you are shooting yourself and other women in the foot, because you don't tell him what to actually do or what you like. I honestly never really know what to do in bed and I just try a few things and if she says that is not working I do something else and when she tells me to do more of that or faster or harder, I do that. But some women refuse to communicate and that is their own fault if they don't get o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 08:34 AM
3

We need more women like you. Most men have no clue how to do sex and women need to stop faking it otherwise we will never figure out how to please you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 08:30 AM
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Men can have very strong feelings for you while at the same time having zero clue how to satisfy a woman. The two things are in no way mutually exclusive
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 08:29 AM
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Just tell him that he is doing it wrong and tell him what to do. If you are not enjoying what he is doing you have to tell him to stop. Otherwise its i his own fault. If you fake orgasms whe will think he is doing exactly the right thing and will do it exactly the same way again with the next one. You need to break this cycle otherwise he will keep on disappointing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 08:28 AM
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The problem is that women are notoriously bad at explaining what they want. I've asked women in bed to show me what to do and they either don't respond or just giggle and tell me to just do it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 08:26 AM
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I've honestly never talked with any man IRL about what to do in bed. That is something that I only talk about with the woman I am intimate with, but some women refuse to teach or explain me anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 08:20 AM
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The issue with that is that some women are just able to cum several times in a row without me putting in any effort and other women won't cum not matter what I try. I've been with enough women to be sure that the number of her orgasms has no correlation with the amount of effort I put in. Maybe the ones who did cum several times have all been faking it, but that is then their own fault. This year I've met a woman who had more than 10 orgasms in a row from me just penetrating her and twisting her…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 08:17 AM
1

I often have the impression that women only agree to sex to get something from a man. Usually it is commitment, housing, help, or straight up money. I sometimes find it hard to believe that women are actually interested in sex just for the sake of having sex due to the lack of evidence for that.
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/22 09:47 PM
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I would see that as an absolute win. Men and women are just different in that regard. For men sex is a scarce resource that we have to fight for which means we take what we can get, while for women sex is something that they are only sometimes interested in.
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/22 04:08 PM
2

If I have feelings for a woman I want to be as close to her as possible, which means Sex is as good as it gets. That is why men are soo frustrated in the friendzone. I would be very happy to be in the hookup zone. Sure next morning it might hurt to know that she does not actually like me, but having sex with a girl I actually like youd be amazing. Sadly the girls that let me smash are almost always one's that I never had any feelings for.
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/22 02:35 PM
2

If I would see a woman who has a body count over 50 I would see her as an opportunity to get sex and be more likely to ask her for sex. A lot of girls who seem innocent on first glance are actually highly sexual. I specifically remember a girl who I thought was nerdy and probably inexperienced which is why I took things slowly with her and only asked for sex with her after weeks of texting and two dates. After we had sex she told me that her body count was above 40 and that she would have been u…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 08:53 AM
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M27, Finland
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/22 07:51 PM
1

Wow, as a man I can't relate to that at all.
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/22 06:50 PM
1

That's also what I heard many times. So I am confused
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/22 06:49 PM
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As a man this is difficult to comprehend. If you like a guy who does not want a relationship with you, you are saying that you would rather be in the friendzone than in the hookup zone? But isn't the Friendzone just the hookup zone without the intimacy and therefore objectively worse?
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/22 06:36 PM
1

Oh, that happened once to me ~5 years ago. But then we moved abroad to different countries. Hasn't happened to me ever again since
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 03:50 PM
1

Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 02:54 PM
1

Ok, well, then I guess it has never clicked for me before ever, because I don't know what you mean with click.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 02:31 PM
1

Hmm, very interesting. You are saying I should try to focus on girls I met before? Women are just notoriously bad at dropping hints and men are notoriously bad a noticing hints because it is so rare that a woman is into us that we don't know what the signs look like or just assume that in 99% of situations she is not interested, so it is unlikely that she is suddenly showing interest now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 02:24 PM
1

Ok, that was really the only difference? How much time did you have with him? I would like to make my future encounters with women more enjoyable for both parties. So do you reccomend waiting with the intimacy and to first spending some non sexual time together? How much time should that be? 2 hours? Or at least a day after meeting in person? Or several dates? 2 weeks? I'm just trying to understand what women need.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 02:02 PM
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Hmm I honestly don't understand what exactly was different about the guy with whom you had the incredible sex? It was casual but you still managed to get super horny even though you say that you usually don't get turned on at all during casual? Was he just unbelievablly hot or what exactly is the difference to all the men who could not get you aroused? That sounds almost like a blackpill post because you are basically saying there are only very few exceptional men who can get you aroused?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 01:35 PM
1

Interesting. I've had casual sex with women and my experience is the other way around: When I was drunk I could not get it up and the girl was offended by that or took it as an insult that I could not get it up for her. She never talked to me again after that. Or another one refused to communicate with me and told me to shut up and just do it, while I was trying to figure out how to please her, but I could tell that she is not enjoying it. I wanted to make it enjoyable for her, but did not know …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 01:17 PM
1

What exactly did these men do wrong with whom you hooked up with? Was it something they did or something they did not do? Did you communicate what you want with them? In my experience women just expect men to have a total intuitive understanding of her body and refuse to teach men how to please them
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 12:56 PM
1

What do you mean with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 12:52 PM
4

Most men above 30 would be very happy to date women below 30, but most men above 30 are not able to get dates with women below 30. The men want to date younger but most of them can't, which means there is no problem for you as long as you don't go for the highly desirable men who can in fact date younger. Take for example Leonardo di Caprio. He only dates women below 25 even though he is already well above 40. Most men want to do what Leonardo is doing, but most men can't do that, because they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 09:51 AM
1

I was happy with her but she was not happy with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 09:29 PM
1

I enjoyed listening to her, because I enjoyed looking at her and seeing her smile and seeing her excited about something. But she was talking about things that I never cared about before and because of that I always immediately forgot what she told me about these topics. I was ok with her not caring about my passions. I simply did not expect her to care. Its my passion and not hers. I tried telling her a few things a few times but from her reactions I could immediately tell that she is not inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 09:26 PM
1

And is that a problem? If he is only 5% gay but 95% straight I don't see any issues. Most women are at least to some extent interested in women and a lot of women have had some form of sexual intimacy with other women. That does not prevent them from being good wives.
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 04:35 PM
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I don't understand what this post is supposed to tell us. In what way is that suifuel for women? Why the fuck would women care if their man has ever jerked off to a femboy?
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 04:31 PM
1

Have you seen the comment threads where women demand that all short men must be euthanized. Or that short men should be sterilised or that short men should be deported etc.. I've seen countless examples of that. Women can be absolutely vile and genocidal when talking about short men.
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 01:14 PM
1

Jbw is an issue specific to the USA. But there are plenty of white guys in the American blackpill community Go to Japan, there you won't slay as a white guy
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 01:00 PM
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I was dating a girl who was really into specific bands and some kind of art that I just could not care less about, but I had really strong feelings for her. Whenever she told me about that stuff I just sat there and listened with a smile just admiring her, but because what she was talking about was totally irrelevant for me, I would instantly forget it. Later she got angry at me because I did not remember details about her bands and artists and told me that she does not feel heard. That was her …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 07:33 AM
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The issue is that women find 80% of men unnatractive. What you find attractive is very much an exception and not normally found in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 11:32 AM
5

What you are basically sayi is that 80% of all men are just unnatractive and should give up. You know that blackpill content is not allowed here?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 11:30 AM
3

And how well is that working for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 08:52 AM
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A lot of men don't go for pretty girls because they are usually entitled an narcicistic and the chance of getting anything from a pretty girl is almost zero for an average man. So why would we waste time on them?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 08:37 AM
1

Tell that to @SmilesLikeMardiGras She is spreading incel/blackpill fuel.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 03:30 PM
2

I think what women actually want can be explained with an analogy: Immagine that every human has a box in which we collect our past trauma, unprocessed feelings, weakness etc... Most people have something in this box. The box is very personal and most people keep the content of their box secret. Women hate weak men. Women evolved to find mentally strong men who are leaders while rejecting weak men who can't stand up for themselves or their family. Women want to be protected by their man and need…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 03:27 PM
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Brutal blackpill. Thanks for the honesty
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 02:20 PM
1

But if they wanted to the would? Or would they?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 07:44 AM
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That is shaming and outright depressing. Do you know how hurtful that is for many men? You have no empathy towards men. It is like saying: There is nothing a fat woman has for me that I or the vast majority of men want in a woman, namely health Or: There is nothing a high n-count woman has for me that I or the vast majority of men want in a woman, namely purity
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 07:43 AM
1

To do what?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 07:40 AM
1

But what if he does not know that she wants a relationship? None of the girls I ever dated asked me the "what are we" question and I therefore have to assume that they were not interested in a relationship with me
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 11:32 PM
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Most guys don't lose interest in a woman that shows consistent interest in him. Women get bored by men who they know don't have any other options, while most men want to have a woman about whom they don't have to worry that she might go for another guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 11:29 PM
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I want to be in a relationship with many women, but I am definitely not. "if he wanted to he would" is the most stupid lie ever told.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 11:26 PM
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Relationships in which the woman is more interested are more stable because if the guy is more invested then she will sooner or later lose attraction to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 11:23 PM
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So being shy means there is something wrong with him? Wow, so we are taking shyness shaming to the whole next level.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 11:21 PM
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Do you also tell your female friends to ask out guys and ask to take the relationship to the next level etc.? Because if she wanted to she would ask? right? I've never been asked by a girl the "what are we question" and I therefore have to assume that none of them wanted to be my girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 11:20 PM
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That phrase honestly makes me angry, because this rule only applies if a woman is dealing with an attractive highly confident man who has options. A lot of men don't have options and are therefore terrified of rejection and don't even try. In case of such men the phrase "if he wanted to he would" simply does not apply. I had a massive crush on a girl in 5th grade but never spoke a word to her because I was so terrified of her. I had a similar crush on another girl from 7th to 10th grade and I ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 11:15 PM
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Most of the women I've slept with were heavier, some more than 2x my weight and I weigh 65kg. I am definitely not into fat, but that's the only thing I can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 06:05 PM
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Most men never get approached in their whole life. Does that mean most men are a 1 on the scale of 1-10 m
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 05:59 PM
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Ew, she is definitely not my type.
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/22 08:47 AM
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The takeaway is that psychopaths are evolutionary successful and future generations will have more psychopaths than ever before.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 11:51 AM
4

She told me that she can't find her man who fits all her requirements. That is why she was ok with meeting me several times even though she was clear from early on that I am not what she is looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 10:45 AM
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She literally said that this was the deal breaker for her and I was fully aware of that. The point that I was trying to get across is that there are women who make bank, have savings, have children and want more children but can't find a husband who fits her requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 10:18 AM
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I was a total virgin and had only gotten exactly 1 kiss when I graduated from my bachelor at age 23. Now at 27 I have went abroad, worked out and got confidence, experience and age my body count went from 0 to 10 in the span of just 4 years. It's not totally over if you are a kissless virgin in college. If you work on yourself and keep trying and if you go specifically for very undesirable women, you might have a chance.
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/22 08:36 AM
3

This summer I met a single mother who was initially Ok with casually dating but then told me that she in the long term wants more children and that it is an absolute deal breaker for her that I don't want more children in the next three years. She also makes more than 2x what I currently make, has an appartment that she owns and already one child. I'm a PhD student and she is a frontend developer in a software company.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 08:31 AM
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In what way? I am not going to abuse her. But I know if she would have high self esteem she would not give me a chance
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 04:02 PM
1

Hormones can be incredibly powerful, and once conception occurs women are at their mercy, Isn't that admitting that the woman is then not capable of making a rational decision any more and a good argument that the man should decide?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:37 PM
1

What do you mean with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 08:54 AM
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I remember in highschool there were some girls who would hold their folders next to their faces so that they did not have to see me when they walked past me. Traumatising shit. I did not even attempt to make a move.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 11:02 PM
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When I see a woman with low self esteem, I see her as an opportunity because I usually don't have a chance with women. Women don't think like that. They have an abundance of available men and can therefore be picky and pick the best one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 10:43 PM
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The she should just ask him again. Ist not a rejection until he specifically says so. I am sure je just just in thoughts about something completely different and just did not consciously notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 11:34 PM
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How do you know that he really did not hear it or that he was just focused on something entirely different. Its only a rejection if he specifically says it out loud anything else does not count as a rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 11:23 PM
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Sure I am also a Darvinism, but getting a wife from a poorer country is often announced as the solution to all our problems here, but some people forget that some of the incels on here are only incels because their potential match moved abroad to marry a rich guy from a different country.
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/22 11:13 PM
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But that guy is taking away the Tajik girl from her local community and the men there will have one option less. For every man who is marrying a woman from a poorer country there is one more incel in the poorer country. Marrying abroad does not solve inceldom. It just shifts it to the poorer country.
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/22 09:53 PM
2

There is "In vitro fertilization" after which you can choose which egg cells get implanted back into you, but in most countries it is illegal to determine the gender before implantation. Otherwise there is not much you can do. Appart from aborting if it is a boy. Nowdays the gender can be determined very early on and you can choose to abort then.
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/22 09:13 PM
3

I don't really understand where the problem is. If you are actually into betas then go and have fun with them. You will have it very easy to get their attention, because they don't have many options. Most of them will be very loyal. You can have a fantastic life if you are actually attracted to betas. Just make sure that you also have daughters because your sons could turn out to be incels.
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/22 08:23 AM
2

What do you mean with that?
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/22 08:49 AM
8

I applaud you for initiating! Not enough women even consider that!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 07:52 AM
2

I am from Germany and have lived in Switzerland, France, England, Sweden and now I am studying in Finland. Believe me, I have seen people in different places and it seems like we have vastly different taste in women, but she seems super fit and I assure you in Europe she would be at least a 7.
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/22 09:28 PM
2

You are beyond delusional or you have an extremely different taste. I don't agree with you at all and I have never been to the US
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/22 09:20 PM
2

I've lived in Germany, Switzerland, France, Sweden and Finland. Mayve be just have a vastly different taste in women. Seems like attractiveness is subjective after all.
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/22 06:54 PM
2

What the fuck? I've lived in several different cities in different European countries and I would say Helsinki has quite good looking women. You are delusional if you think that average women are anywhere near as good looking as her. Have you ever been outside?
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/22 06:19 PM
3

I'm a man myself, but also noticed that some men just don't realise that the women they see in the media, Instagram and porn are not normal women. They take the average of the women they see online and in media every day and think that this must be the average. But most of those women are part of the 0.1% and are exceptionally hot. Especially basement dwellers have no idea what a real average woman looks like and then complain that they cant get a woman who looks "average" in their opinion.
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/22 06:17 PM
2

You guys have absolutely ridiculous ideas about what the average woman looks like. You know that most Instagram models are top 0.1%? Through media, especially social media you are over exposed to exceptionally good looking people. Have you ever stood at the entrance or a random grocery market or subway exit and closely observed what the average person looks like? Your eyes are automatically drawn to the most hot people, but if you consciously focus on observing everyone you will notice, that the…
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/22 05:29 PM
2

What the fuck? Why? I live in Helsinki and I quite like it here.
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/22 05:11 PM
2

Seriously, where are you from? You seem to live in a phantasy world surrounded by Instagram models. She is not average. Maybe on the campus of some Californian sports university she might be average, but if she goes anywhere else she will stand out. You apparently don't even notice all the women who are less fortunate than her. Are you blind? Seems like you only consciously notice super hot women and you are unaware of what the actual demographics looks like.
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/22 03:14 PM
3

I don't know where you live, but you are delusional if you think she is average. Have you been outside? There are many many girls who look not as good as her. Just based on the fact that she is slim and fit and healthy, she is easily a 7 and she has a cute face and is a blue eyed blonde who dresses sexy, which easily makes her an 8 or even 9. The vast majority of women don't look that good. Your perception is warped because Holywood and Instagram only show hot women. You might think that women l…
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/22 02:51 PM
2

We are not mad, but confused. She is hot and probably had more than enough options before she started doing that. She is just too picky.
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/22 01:54 PM
4

I absolutely love that she is doing that and actually approaching men in real life! But at the same time I am wondering how such a hot girl is not swimming in options already? With her face and body she should easily be able to pull great guys on dating apps and in real life.
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/22 01:53 PM
5

I am wondering why she is not having sex with the guy she likes but instead fucks someone she sees no future with. Seems to me like she is punishing the good guy and rewarding the other guy for not being bf material. But as long as exclusivity has not been agreed upon all are free to do whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 01:48 PM
3

I guess it's also projecting in the sense that she constantly falls for aggressive/dominant men who treat her badly and therefore assumes all men treat women badly.
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/22 08:14 AM
2

What do you mean with "trying a bit"? I've been on dozens of first dates and still haven't managed to get a relationship. People tell me I'm an all right looking and interesting guy but I dry up panties wherever I go. I've been on several dating apps for more than 5 years now and only recently got some success by meeting women who are more than 8 years older than me.
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/22 08:11 AM
1

I'm 27 and have never met a woman like that. Would absolutely love to experience that. What can I do to get something like that? Where are women like that hiding?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 07:47 PM
1

What do you mean with that? I want to be in the fuck zone. What is bad about being in the fuck zone? I know that women don't like to be in the fuck zone, but I would absolutely love to try it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 07:39 PM
1

Omg, I want to be in the fuck zone !!! Almost all men want to be in the fuck zone. You know that with that you are disincentivicing men from engaging with you intellectually? But how do I get into the fuckzone? What do I need to do? I have a masters degree in space technologY and have worked at CERN before. I guess I should never mention that if I want to get to the FUCKZONE?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 07:29 PM
1

Ok, now you admit that you go for looks. Yeah dating apps are almost unusable as an average man, because there are simply not enough women there. Only top 10% men have fun on these apps. But I seriously don't see me ever taking yoga classes and how the fuck do you get into a flirty conversation at a book store? Hasn't ever happened to me despite having been to many book stores.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 07:13 PM
2

I don't mean the "say how it is" I mean women who are genuinely attracted to education and don't go for the loud and hot guys. And I would be very happy to find a woman on the spectrum. But I just don't know where they are hiding. I don't know any. And I don't know where to find them or how I could meet any. They don't seem to be on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 07:02 PM
3

Fair enough. I wish there were more women like you. Where are women like you hiding? Where can I find and get in contact with women like you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 06:59 PM
1

Then what kind of guys do you fall for? And how often do you friendzone guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 06:50 PM
6

What exactly is he getting wrong? I am also on the spectrum and don't understand whats going on. To me it sounds like he is just not good looking enough. It does not matter that he is emotionally available or a great communicator if he is not hot enough to get her physically attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 06:44 PM
5

Which majority of men has girlfriends? Almost all men I know are single.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 08:35 AM
2

So you say you are at least a 7? Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 01:34 PM
2

Wow, that is ridiculous. How hot are you? There are only few men I this world who just get said for sex by their female coworkers. Won't happen to 99% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 10:41 PM
1

I try to notice unnatractive women. I know that I have zero chances with the hottest girl in the room and I don't bother wasting time with her. But I work in a strongly male dominated field and all my social circles are almost exclusively male, which means there is usually only one or two women and they already get all the attention they can handle. I would love to met one of those supposedly invisible women.
/r/AllPillDebate05/09/22 09:38 PM
3

The problem with that approach is that men have been lied to about the true nature of women and what they are actually attracted to. Men are raised with the lie that they just need to treat women right and that they will be rewarded for being a gentleman. That is sadly very false and a lot of men struggle mentally when they see how assholes and abusive Narcicist slay left and right, while nice guys are lonely and watching from the sidelines. The redpill is about telling men the cold hard truth t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 05:49 AM
1

What is the wors that could happen if I meet her in real life. If she's actually obese my chances of getting laid would be higher than expected once I meet her. And if she is too obese for me then I can still just not ask her on a second date. I would split the bill anyway, so I don't see the issue here. Even if I get catfished I can still have a good day.
/r/AllPillDebate05/09/22 05:23 AM
0

I find that hard to believe, because I have never had anyone who fell really for me and most of my friends have also never had a girl obsess over them. Only a tiny fraction of men can spark this kind of attraction in women. Sure, from the perspective of women it looks more common, but you are all obsessing over the same guy, while most men will never have anyone obess over them.
/r/AllPillDebate05/09/22 05:18 AM
4

With her it was not even about sexual things. Because she made me wait for 3 months and then decided to block me after we had been dating for 3 months without even holding hands. But every time I admitted that I did not know the location of something in the city or when I did not know an artist or movie etc.. She would always be extremely disappointed and say things like: Do you know anything at all? How long have you been living in this city? Markus would have known that. After she broke up wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 10:28 PM
9

That's just how women are. I met several who showed this behaviour and also have heard it from my friends. That is what we mean when we say women with high body counts can be damaged goods because they will always compare you to the best they had and that is usually some Giga Chad that you don't stand a chance against in direct comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 09:46 PM
3

Maybe when I am not with her. But in the moment with her I don't. And she was always super disappointed when I was not exactly like him. I always knew why she is disappointed because I actually know her ex and I know that I am not like him. She actively made me feel awful. Typical alpha widow
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 06:22 PM
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I would be happy if I would be the first one of my Gf, but I know its unrealistic and it does not bother me too much if she has previous experiences. The problem is just that I have dated girls before who admitted that they keep thinking about men they slept with before and they always compared me to the best guy she has a ever been with, which is a horrible experience. One girl in particular made me feel like I am not good enough for her, because her ex (who is my colleague and friend) is so mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 06:13 PM
1

Could definitely be the case. We will never know.
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/22 04:26 PM
3

For me she is an 8. Thats just my personal preference. If you are attracted to other women that is perfectly fine. That means less competition for me
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/22 03:13 PM
1

I can confirm what you are saying. I've been on dating apps for years and only went for girls my age or younger and almost never got anywhere with them. Last year I did not manage to get even one kiss despite going on 6 first dates. This year I decided to just stop chasing young girls and went for older women. I am 27 so this meant I swiped right on lots of women aged 30 to 40. I did not care what they looked like because a hot 40 year old still has lots of options, but chubby 35 year old women …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 03:13 PM
2

What do you mean? Am I not allowed to have preferences? She looks like my type
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/22 02:54 PM
3

I would rate her face easily 8/10. She has blue eyes and a feminine face shape and looks under 25. If I would see a girl like her on Tinder I would instantly swipe right in the unlikely case of a match ask her on a date.
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/22 10:13 AM
6

What kind of super ultra Giga Mr. universe Chad must this guy be that a woman who is that good looking pays him to talk to him? I seriously struggle to immagine a man like that. With that face she already has infinite options on the dating market, but she wants to pay a top 0.1% man to talk to her? Hypergamy is scary.
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/22 10:05 AM
2

That is how filter bubbles and echo chambers are created. Free speach also means that controversial opinions have to be publicly challenged.
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/22 10:00 AM
9

Post Wall women still have unlimited access to endless amounts of dick from young frustrated men on dating apps. Post Wall women have two options: - Keep the man you married before you hit the wall. - Enjoy sex with young men who worship you for the fact that you agree to sleep with them.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/22 09:40 AM
3

I always wonder how the fuck they manage to do that. Why can't I with a masters degree and stable job get a Gf?
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/22 09:38 AM
2

You really have no idea about what I am trying to get across here. Women have an enormous power over men. If women would consistently reward certain behaviour sexually and romantically then all men would do this behaviour. At the same time women constantly lie about their own preferences and especially men are lied to about what women are looking for. Men grow up with certain ideas what they have to do to appeal to women e.g. Treat her nice, buy her flowers etc... But most of that is total lies.…
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/22 09:35 AM
2

Definitely not all men are into dark shit. I am certainly not into any power play or things like that. I prefer vanilla and equality and communication in the bedroom. And I am quite sure most men I know would agree with me on that. Most men just assume that women have much more innocent sexuality thoughts and interests, but the more I find out about what turns women on the more I am disgusted. I hate your sexual preferences and your sexual preferences cause societal issues, while most men are li…
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/22 08:54 AM
6

Ok, sure male sexuality can lead some men into absolutely deprived shit while most men are not into that at all. While but 50 Shades of Grey is one of the best selling books of all time, which means for women it is normal to be attracted to this kind of abusive egoistic confident, Narcicist.
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/22 05:32 PM
3

I guess most men hate that movie, because it shows how fucked up female sexuality is.
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/22 05:24 PM
13

If you are interested in your friends, then you have to ask them out or at least give them very clear signs. If you only wait to be asked out, you will mostly end up with the kind of guy who asks out every girl he knows. Most guys almost never ask out girls, but a hand full of guys go around doing nothing else than asking out girls. As a woman you don't need to be in a good place financially to date. Dates dont have to be expensive. Just go on Tinder and ask out a few guys for a Coffe on Sunday …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 04:14 PM
15

When the men you are attracted to only see you as a friend it simply means you are aiming out of your league. How many men have you rejected in the past 12 months?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 04:05 PM
2

Why? That would be cruel
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 02:20 PM
1

Yes. You are lying to yourself to justify your life choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 06:44 PM
1

That seems to apply to only some people. I've given up on the concept of true love. That's some bluepill lie in my opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 01:26 PM
1

I have been on dozens of first dates and have gotten laid before, but I still don't know what you mean with "things happen naturally"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 08:51 AM
1

For most men it's not about the quality of women its about getting anything at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 11:51 PM
8

This all sounds way to vague while at the same time it seems line a dance on a razor edge between sexual harassment and being flirty. As a man I genuinely can't tell the difference between the two. It seems to me that the only difference is if the man is very attractive or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 11:47 PM
0

This just sounds depressing to me as a man. I am not assertive and never will be. I am so confused by what women want that I am on the brink of just giving up. As a man I have to walk a razor sharp edge between being dominant and not being a creep. I don't want that. I don't want to dominate. I want women to accept me for what I am. But most women are disgusted by me. I just came back from a party. I talked to several girls and they all superficially showed some polite interesty but they all bai…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 11:11 PM
0

You swipe right on eve one with demanding jobs? But you also say that you are not compatible? I guess you meant you swipe left on these profiles?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 01:01 PM
4

The males of Algeria and Morocco go to Europe in the hope of hooking up with white women there.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/22 05:57 AM
1

Ok, but is that not true? Of course all women first aim for Chad, get used and rejected by him and then settle for an obtainable guy. That is the life story of almost every modern woman. I don't understand what exactly is controversial about that, because it is an obvious fact
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 02:22 PM
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It seems as a woman your life is so much different that you simply can't immagine what it is like to be a man. But I assure you many men feel and think exactly as I say. My current FWB is obese and quite unattractive, but I don't want to lose her because I know it would be very difficult for me to find a replacement. She fucks other men, because she can easily attract them. I would do that too, if I could. But there are no other women who want to have sex with me, which is why I keep coming back…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 02:20 PM
2

Interesting. I also sometimes can't keep it up, but I still enjoy the skin contact and then get off eventually. My current FWB is twice my weight, older than me, twice divorced and has two kids but I can make her cum by just twisting her nipples. When I fuck her I last for ages during which she usually orgasms several times and then she always let's me finish inside of her. She is definitely not attractive, but I get my needs fulfilled and am happy with that.
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/22 02:17 PM
1

What is projection?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 01:54 PM
3

They are happy that they have a woman and are afraid to lose her, because they know that they can't replace her or that it would at least take quite some effort to replace her. Also the legal implications and everything make cheating to risky and expensive for most men. That is why most men don't cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 01:50 PM
2

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 01:40 PM
8

It's not the toxicity that turns them on. These guys are sexy in other ways. They are confident, masculine, good looking tall etc.. That is what turns the women on. It does not matter if the guy is toxic or not, because women ignore all red flags if they are attracted to a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 01:37 PM
7

Can't relate because I have never rejected anyone and will probably not reject anyone in the next few years.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 01:32 PM
2

I would also very much prefer to have sex with women that weigh less than me, but bad sex is still better than no sex for me. In what way did it not go well?
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/22 01:31 PM
3

Yes, I hook up with fat women, because they are the only women who show interest in me. I don't have a preference for fat women at all, but that is what I settle for
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/22 01:27 PM
7

I disagree with that very much. Many men want a hot skiny 20 year old virgin, but only very few men will actually get that. Every woman dreams about marrying a millionaire with a six pack and nice jaw line. But only very few will ever get that. Almost everyone settles for less than they want at some point. Most people get some understanding of what they realistically can get and then they settle for that. People who don't settle tend to be alone until it is too late or are extremely lucky to fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 12:28 PM
5

Only very few men end up rich. And those men who travel to East Asia to buy a wife do so out of desperation. It is absolutely not their first choice. They only do it because they can't attract what they want in their home country. This means they settle for less than they originally wanted
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 12:24 PM
5

Ok, I disagree. Most men don't have many options. For a man cheating is difficult because finding a woman who is willing to sleep with him is difficult. Men want to cheat, but can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 11:54 AM
3

Sorry, but I don't understand your reply. Can you rephrase it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 11:50 AM
1

If the young hot secretary makes it obvious that she is available it will seduce the old man and turns off his wife goggles.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 11:47 AM
2

You can find a demographic attractive while at the same time being completely disqualified from receiving any attention from that demographic. Most obese 40 year old men have phantasies about hooking up with a cute skinny 20 year old girl. But that is never going to happen. He knows that, but he still jerks off to that idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 11:45 AM
4

The vast majority of people settle. I don't understand why nobody likes to admit that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 11:43 AM
1

But that's how it is, if they like it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 11:41 AM
1

Old men know that they cannot attract any of the hot young girls. That means no matter how much he wants to cheat on his old wife with a 20 year old hottie, he simply cannot, because the 20 year old hottie is not interested in him. He wants to cheat, but can't. The marriage with his wife is save, because she knows that he can't attract anything hotter than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 11:40 AM
4

Most women don't age well and yes they are less physically attractive in their late 30ies than they were in their early 20ies. But also men almost always settle for what they can get, not what they want. Men don't have an attraction threshold. Men are attracted to the best they can get. It does not matter how low that is. Do men simply lose interest in their partner over time but just stay with them because their lives are so intertwined? Many men probably do. Do men secretly want to be having s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 11:37 AM
1

I would have been happy if she would have used me for sex. But she did not and we split the bill on our dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 11:31 AM
2

Ask her. I can give you her Telegram handle
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:21 PM
7

A man cannot change his height. A woman can change her weight. Weight and body fat is a matter of self discipline and habbits. There are very rare health issues that can make it very difficult to maintain a healthy weight, but theses are very rare and most people just need to stop stuffing greasy shit into their faces and start doing sports. I absolutely do not understand the fat acceptance movement, because it celebrates irresponsible behaviour While men are shamed for their height, which they …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 08:42 AM
8

A girl I went on a date with told me to my face that I am not tall enough to be her boyfriend. I replied that I am more than 10cm taller than her and asked if that is not enough. She then laughed at me as if I had told a funny joke and told me: "No silly you, you are just not tall enough. My boyfriend has to be at least 182cm and you are not" I then asked her why precisely 182cm and she went on a rant about how that is required so that her children have a healthy height because she herself is on…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 08:37 AM
2

Honestly, as a man I have not heard about Match.com before and had no idea that there are more women than men. How is that possible? What platforms would you recommend to lonely men?
/r/AllPillDebate17/08/22 02:48 PM
5

I don't think I am the one doing the favour. She clearly has the power in this arrangement, because if I would start making any demands she can just text the next guy to come over to her and forget about me. I am the replaceable one. I can't provide anything to her that she can't get in just a few hours from other guys. That is why I am very grateful that she let's me smash. But if I would find a better option I would stop seeing her.
/r/AllPillDebate17/08/22 12:43 PM
5

Don't date her. I go into FWBs with fat women, because they are easier to get, but I would never commit to a woman who is heavier than me. I am currently fucking a woman who is probably twice my weight and she told me that a few months ago she had an episode where she was very unhappy and just went on Tinder and asked guys to fuck her and she slept with 17 guys in just a few weeks. She is a seriously obese 36 years old, twice divorced and has 2 kids and she can get more dick delivered to her doo…
/r/AllPillDebate17/08/22 08:52 AM
5

The asshole behaviour only works if the guy is already hot/tall/rich The incels who copy the behaviour are not attractive enough physically to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 08:51 AM
2

Where did you get that impression from? Most girls give up their virginity to older Chads in their teens. I've asked several girls in person when they lost their virginity and they all said somewhen in their teens. Some even in their early teens, while I had my first time at 24 and I have several male friends who are virgins in their late 20ies. Young girls tend to sleep with guys who are at least a year older than them and only a small percentage of boys have sex in their teens, while almost al…
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/22 08:47 AM
38

Men see that assholes get pussy all the time. Of course some men will copy the behaviour of attractive men who get away with everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 05:26 PM
3

I would love to find an autistic woman who does not mask. I don't think I've ever met one. Do you know where I could find autistic girls who are interested in dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 03:33 PM
1

I weigh 67kg. And most of my male friends are also quite skinny
/r/AllPillDebate12/08/22 09:14 AM
1

Yes, but if there is one thing that most men agree on that it is that fat is quite a turnoff. But most of us guys don't have a choice. Either go for fat girls or be alone, because the few fit girls that exist are so high in demand that it is impossible to get their attention.
/r/AllPillDebate12/08/22 08:53 AM
1

Where do you see that? I keep seeing fit and healthy 25 year old men with masters degrees dating obese girls with no education or job. And these guys are happy that at least some girl is giving them attention. I myself am seeing an obese woman even though I am quite skinny.
/r/AllPillDebate12/08/22 08:45 AM
2

I my opinions most hobbies are totally fine, but I keep seeing dating profiles who say they do pole dancing as a hobby, which I see as quite a red flag. I once dated a girl who went 3 times a week to dance class and did stuff like "commercial high heels", which I had never heard about before, but found very weird. But I would say if she has any hobbies she is better than women who don't know what to do with their time, because then they get pets or watch too much TV or spend too much time on soc…
/r/AllPillDebate12/08/22 08:41 AM
3

Yes, some women are absolutely vile and enjoy bullying men who are not measuring up to her phantasies of what a real man should be. That is suifuel and I have to stop reading it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 09:23 PM
2

Yes, sad to see stuff like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 09:17 PM
2

Thank you! We need more women like you!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 09:13 PM
2

Wow, I hope I never end up in bed with a person like you. You sound miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 09:01 PM
1

That requres female friends, which lots of men don't have.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 03:01 PM
3

I absolutely hate that women like you seem to hate explaining things. I want to get better at sex, but because of women like you I tend to get very bad experiences and afterwards I am wondering what exactly went wrong and I won't learn anything out of it. The best sex I had was always when the woman explained to me in detail what she wants and guided me to the right spots.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 02:00 PM
5

As a man I have the impression that women tend to be bad at explaining what they want or straight up refuse to explain what they want because a real man would just know and if you are not a real man then it would be a waste of time for them or something like that.... Also it seems that the biggest factor in if a woman enjoys sex with you or not is if she already finds you attractive. I met a woman who was really into me, because I was apparently out of her league and she would orgasm countless t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 01:57 PM
3

In my experience women above 35 are much easier to hook up with than 25 year old women. Don't know about dating though, because I would not date a woman that much older than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 09:26 AM
3

I don't know where to find single autistic girls. If I knew where they are hiding, I would approach them, but I have no clue where they could be.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 03:45 PM
6

He has a point though. Women have no empathy for the struggles of men in the world of dating and no interest to care about our concerns.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 11:02 AM
19

I don't have to mask around men. Men are much more understanding when it comes to autism. Some of my best friends have clear signs of autism and they get along just fine with other men, but are always single. Women seem to be outright disgusted and creeped out by signs of autism in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 08:09 AM
14

Autistic girls have no problems finding neurotypical boyfriends. That means there are simply not nearly enough aspie girls for all the lonely aspire guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 08:06 AM
-1

Why? That is just how it has been in almost all of human history. Average or below average men have always been disposable and only a few men on the top were irreplaceable, while all fertile women have intrinsic value.
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/22 01:00 PM
0

The standards are almost purely based on physical attraction. If a woman is turned on by a masculine confident man it does not matter how he behaves. The bar for him is on the floor or even lower. But women don't tolerate anything from men they are not already attracted to. That means there are two very distinct bars. The bar for the men who they are attracted to is below ground. They tolerate abusive behaviour, cheating, disrespect etc... because she is attracted to him. But if she is not attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 07:47 AM
3

I like to do nofap a few days before I meet a girl so that I am more masculine, dominant and can get it up more easily, but when I don't want to be horny or aggressive all the time I just rub it daily
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/22 07:24 AM
2

I have been rejected by ugly girls, but I've also had sex with ugly girls. I (M27) currently have a FWB with a 36 year old obese woman who is twice divorced and has 2 kids. But she is enthusiastic about having sex with me and I love that. Girls my age and my weight are not interested in me, so I go for women like her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 10:26 PM
9

Free sex
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 03:06 PM
5

The so called DINKS (Double income no kids) should be taxed more taxes and the tax rate should depend on the number of children one has. We need to encourage rich people to have more children. Too many children are born into poverty while rich couples remain childless or pass on their whole wealth to one inheritor. Rich people should have strong tax incentives to have many children and to split up their wealth amongst many heris. That is the most effective way to reduce inequality. There should …
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/22 01:53 PM
5

What I was trying to say is that there are men who don't have to learn anything to get laid and there are men who could study nothing else their while life and would still struggle to get laid. Sexual attraction is something that cannot be improved much, no matter how much effort you put in.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 02:42 PM
5

You might be right, but in what part of the world do you live where bars only play rap or country? That sounds so weird to me, because I have never been to a bar that plays either of these kinds of music. Here in northern Europe it's only EDM, pop and rock.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 11:23 AM
13

It is only hard to learn for some men. But some men never have to learn it, because they are hot enough that they don't have to learn anything. Recently I went to a night club with two colleagues who are taller and better looking than me and it was insane to watch how they get women in the night club. Already in the queue to the club there were girls who were trying to get their attention and they ended up talking with a group of girls in front of us. When we finally got into the club, we walked…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 08:55 AM
2

Maybe I am weird but I rarely talk in detail with my friends or colleagues about women. And if we do I just mention that I went on a date the other week and tell my friends that I got ghosted again. But I would never mention any details if I did something sexual or anything like that and none of my my friends and coworkers have ever told me about details of their sex life. And we also don't rate or judge girls. I think I have never experienced proper "locker room" talk in my whole life. The most…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 08:43 AM
9

We don't hate women. We just hate the fact that they hate us so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 08:27 AM
11

I once slept with a girl who seemed innocent and inexperienced during a summer school and she did not lie to my face, but I had the strong impression that she did not have much sexual past. After we had hooked up we kept texting for a while, where she revealed to me that she had sex with several other guys during the same summer school and that she has issues in her family that led to her working as a prostitute for half a year just to be able to afford to finish her studies. During that time sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 08:00 AM
3

Welcome to modern dating. That is simply how it is nowadays. The only weird thing about this is your reaction to it. Women have an effectively infinite supply of other choices and it is completely normal to drop you if you are not the best of her current options. Don't let it get to your head and get used to it, because if you are a man that is probably going to happen several times to you until you find a woman that sticks around. It has happened to me probably more than a dozen times now and I…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 07:44 AM
2

It's not libido. It's sexual frustration.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 09:18 PM
3

What? I am sure I have gotten errections while thinking about every girl I have ever been friends with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 09:14 PM
1

No, I am not hiding. I am on several dating apps and I sometimes go to bars and clubs.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 08:16 PM
2

Damn, I need to find an autistic girl. But they are ridiculously good at hiding.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 08:05 PM
2

Of all the girls I had sex with so far the contact between us always either broke because we were living in different countries or because she ghosted me. I have never refused a relationship so far, but have been rejected several times by girls after we have had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 06:24 PM
5

My (M27) FWB is obese, twice divorced, has 2 kids and is 9 years older than me. I think it is obvious why I don't want to marry her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 04:33 PM
2

I am slightly autistic. I am definitely not aware and it pisses me off that women expect men to just intuitively get it, while there are men like me who are absolutely baffled by stuff like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 08:51 AM
1

I also read over there to see what goes through the heads of some women, but it's clearly a small very specific subset of women over there which is not representative of women in general. Obviously they obsess about how to lock down the most sought after men, while avoiding "low value men" like the plague. One thing I absolutely do not understand as a man is that the constantly tell each other that she just has to be as feminine as possible and that would automatically bring out his masculinity.…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 07:38 AM
2

There are men who are desired by enough women that they can be picky. Some women are picky but end up being alone most of the time and then there are guys like me who are also mostly lonely but take what they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 05:08 PM
2

I have never had enough options to be picky and girls that I've dated always lost interest eventually, so I just take what I can get. I guess it would be nice to find a girl that actually likes me and who I would be compatible with, but I am not going to wait for that to ever happen. I would like to have a female travel companion to go on fun daytrips, but haven't found one yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 04:26 PM
2

I don't pump and dump because for me it is an established fact that sex gets better when you get used to a specific person. I always ask to meet again, but it's always the women who don't want to meet again at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 04:16 PM
5

I'm glad that I don't have this problem. For me sex is sex. It's only a problem of she is too obese for actual penetration.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 04:08 PM
28

You would not stay single if you were actually attracted to men 5'2 and below, because these short Kings are absolutely desperate for unicorns like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 09:05 AM
7

I've seen girls on Tinder who use Tinder to promote their OF. And they were definitely not hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 08:17 AM
1

You don't seem to be a short man. Women don't give short men a chance. A girl once told me to my face that I am not tall enough to be her boyfriend. When I told her that is stupid and shallow she called me stupid and was offended by me suggesting that she should give short guys a chance. As if that would imply I am questioning her worth as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 08:04 AM
5

I was saying that women never approach men of their own league. I have seen how women approach men. Just last Friday I was with a group of my colleagues in a club and my group had 2 quite good looking, tall and handsome guys. Definitely 7/10 or 8/10 in their age bracket. They were approached by several girls who were maybe 5/10 with the amount of makeup they were wearing and probably less than that in natural light without makeup. None of these girls showed any interest in me at all but got upse…
/r/AllPillDebate31/07/22 07:56 AM
1

Maybe there are messed up girls who really nobody wants to date, but they can still easily get free attention and sex from decently looking guys just for the fact that they have a vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 07:40 AM
9

Approachable? Since when do women approach men in their own league?
/r/AllPillDebate31/07/22 07:33 AM
5

I'm pretty blackpilled. My standards went to zero when I figured out how women actually behave when I was around 24. I still want a sweet loyal girl, but at age 27 I still haven't managed to get into even one relationship. Recently I found out that many older women on dating apps are looking specifically for younger slim guys purely for sex. I fit that description and have had quite consistent sex roughly every other week for the past few months with women above 35 who are not really attractive,…
/r/AllPillDebate30/07/22 09:36 PM
5

If you swipe right all the time you get shadow banned. You have to swipe left at least some of the time.
/r/AllPillDebate30/07/22 04:35 PM
7

Nope. Where are they hiding? I can't find them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 03:39 PM
12

Women want to get the attention of high value men. The most effective way to achieve that is by dressing in a sexy way. That comes with the massive drawback that it also catches the attention of average men, but women seem to have collectively decided it is worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 02:08 PM
10

How? Short men either stay alone forever or settle for whatever is left for them. That is simply how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 01:22 PM
86

The supply of undesirable men is effectively infinite. There will always be enough desperate men. Women just need to lower their standardsnand they will always find a guy who is willing to give her everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 12:51 PM
1

I guess the only difference is that women can afford to be picky about looks, while most men would be picky about looks if they could afford it. But many men would not get anything if they were picky about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 11:44 AM
1

But seriously, has anyone ever walked up to you and simply said "I want to go on a date with you? " I have never seen that with my own eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 10:44 AM
1

I know that I won't ever be able to do this, because I would just not know what to say. Tinder is soul crusing but at least there I don't have to approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 10:00 PM
2

I have been with women who would definitely be considered unattractive, but they were the best I could do, so I was greatful for what I got.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 06:57 PM
1

I was never really sure what that phrase actually means. So you want men who you have never met before just walk up to you and say "Do you want to go on a date with me?" Or how is this supposed to work?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 05:18 PM
8

No, I have never got the ick. Maybe after watching porn, but not after being with an actual woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 03:46 PM
3

I'm also 27 and have met women above 35 recently. I don't connect with them, but they are much more open to casual sex than women below 30. so I enjoy that with them even though I can't relate to them in terms of life experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 01:55 PM
1

What exactly does asking out mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 01:16 PM
1

I'm not picky now and enjoying the easy sex with older women who are very eager to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 01:15 PM
2

Many men are so desperate that that it is almost impossible for a woman of the same age to be too ugly. She would have to have serious physical or mental disabilities to be considered undesirable. There are simply not enough undesirable women for all the terminally lonely men out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 08:27 AM
2

A dating service for undesirables would never work, because there will be dozens of times more men than women and if one decent looking guy joins he will get all the women. There is no way in which undesirable men can win except getting rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 08:22 AM
6

In the middle ages in the middle east men were allowed to marry up to 4 wifes, while most poor men remained single and even virgin their whole life. Societies like that have existed, but by the current state of the middle east one can argue that it did not go well. Below average men in these societies really do losing all ambitions once they realise that they won't ever get a wife and resort to smoking Hashish all day and just wasting their time until they die in a stupid way. That is basically …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 01:14 PM
1

Calling someone out for bullying is not bullying.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 05:46 AM
1

What?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 12:00 AM
-1

Which insults?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 06:12 PM
1

One of the biggest aspects of the red pill is understanding that women are not angels and can be absolutely vile and horrible people. Just because they look cute does not mean that they are nice. It is often the opposite because cute girls can get away with everything and get too much attention from less desirable men, which means cute girls can be the most vile and misandrist bullies ever who tell unnatractive men to just kill themselves. They don't have any sympathy for you and they are danger…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 05:27 PM
1

She was super drunk and stressed at work so she only wanted an easy Friday night fuck. She was a 23 year old PhD student from the UK working in Geneva at CERN in the Antimatter factory and I was an intern at CERN aged 24. I asked her if she is a model and she liked the compliment. Then I bought her a drink, but she was to drunk and asked me to get her a taxi. I got her the taxi, but I was actually living on the way to where she needed to go and I told her in the taxi that we were going to pass m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 05:17 PM
1

No, I forgot about rule number one: Don't be ugly. Women consider 80% of men below average in attractiveness. I've seen hot tall guys getting approached by girls in the clubs while I was there. Never happened to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 04:58 PM
2

Almost any 20 year old girl has the glow of her youth and will get attention from all men ages 18 to 50 and beyond. She has the full buffet of all men available. Of course she can be extremely picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 07:45 AM
5

What the actual fuck!?? "" rarely went home alone after clubbing. "" I was clubbing extensively in 2017 and 2018 almost every week sometimes more than once per week and I managed to bring home a girl ONCE. Exactly once. That means my success rate is ~1% And that guy says he rarely went home alone??? Are you fucking kidding me???
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 09:15 PM
3

As a 27 year old male my experiences prove the total opposite. I struggle a lot to get any attention from girls in their 20ies, but this year I've already slept with 3 women above 35 and they were straight forward about what they want and were much more easy than any girls below 30. One invited me directly to her bedroom from a dating app and the other one invited herself to my bedroom. While I struggle to get even a coffee date from women below 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 06:37 PM
10

I think you are using the < sign wrong. If you want to say taller than 6 feet is has to be >6'
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 09:14 AM
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The reason why women say the bar is low is that if a man is good looking and confident, he can get away with absolutely everything. Women will excuse every behaviour because they are attracted to him and just say that all men behave as badly as him. Or when they are with a not so attractive man, they will find an infinite number of complaints to justify why they are not attracted to him. The concept that they are attracted to looks and confidence seems to twist their perception in a way that the…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 09:11 AM
4

God dammit, yes. I've been on first dates with several girls over the past few years and a recurring issue is that so many girls seem to have very shallow interests, like obsessing about movies, TV shows and a handful of music bands. I just cannot relate to any of this. Have never been a movie/TV/music person. When I switch the topic to talking about the countries I have lived in or my work, which I find very interesting, I just get an annoyed blank stare. I've been dating a girl for several wee…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 10:16 AM
1

Yes, almost everyone settles. Only 1% of all people can lock down a top 1% hottie. Anyone who is not with a top 1% or top 0.1% partner is settling. I am currently FWB with a 36 year old 100kg woman who is twice divorced and has 2 children. Do I find her hot? No. But she is simply the best I can do and better that not having any sex at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 09:39 PM
1

That would mean that the vast majority of people would remain virgins for life
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 03:20 PM
6

Having a vagina sounds much more fun to me. You don't have the issue of erectile disfunction and you can orgasm many times in a row. Sex as a man is serious work with the constant pressure to perform, while a woman can just lean back and enjoy the ride cumming over and over again without having to do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 02:00 PM
2

As a man I can assure you that you completely got things backwards. When I go on a date with a girl and she is not enthusiastic, I lose interest, because I know it would take a lot of work to spark enthusiasm in her. But when I go on a date with a girl that is visibly excited and nervous and enthusiastic about seeing me, I feel very happy and fall in love immediately. Sadly her enthusiasm usually quickly fades, but I always have developed the most feelings for the girls that were the most "easy"…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 01:56 PM
1

You don't seem to understand that men can get aroused by almost any woman as long as she is enthusiastic about having sex with him. I personally have slept with women who were probably twice my weight and I know that several of my male friends have also done so. Some of these obese women have even ghosted me after I asked them if we can meet again, which means they were in no way desperate. If you as a fat woman want to have male attention or sex, you can very easily get that, while for unnatrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 01:37 PM
2

In what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 01:15 PM
8

Yeah, also recently made this discovery myself. Girls under 30 are often extremely flaky and very difficult to get into bed, while women above 35 are much more consistent and easily aroused and they just want to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 04:21 PM
5

Ok, I was sure such a misandrist statement could only come from a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 03:20 PM
3

As a woman you mostly notice and remember men who are attractive enough to have options. There are many more men you never notice or immediately forget, because they are not attractive enough. As a woman you experience a heavily biased sample of all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 03:20 PM
4

Are you a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 03:02 PM
11

Being a man absolutely does not mean mental strength. Men are expected to be mentally strong, but that is a very exhausting pressure that leads many men into depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 02:51 PM
4

As a man in my late 20ies I usually feel worthless around young women. Women aged 18-25 are at their peak desirability, while I am a disposable man who has not earned female attention yet and those young women are very likely to see me as an annoyance, because they always get attention from guys like me, which means my attention is completely worthless and replaceable for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 02:49 PM
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Seriously? There are really men who do that to women? I am sorry for you. Seems like there are just horrible people on this planet. I've seen plenty cases of women wishing death to insecure or "low value" men and directly telling men who were looking for dating advice to just give up and die. Some women genuinely believe that men who cannot attract women are fundamentally flawed and have to be disposed off because these women hate men so much. But I have never seen something like that happen wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 02:30 PM
5

Yes. Men don't go out of their way to tell lonely girls that they are ugly undesirable and should kill themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 02:12 PM
6

You would be surprised by how many absolutely vile women there are who get satisfaction from bullying undesirable men and telling lonely men to kill themselves. That has happened to me several times in this forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 02:32 AM
0

For me as a man, sex with an ugly fat woman is still better then jerking off alone. That's why I am going to meet a woman who is twice my weight and 8 years older than me tomorrow. I don't care how ugly she is. Cumming inside of her is so much better than jerking off. I don't find her visually pleasing in any way and am also not interested in her as a person, but knowing that she wants to have sex with me already turns me on so much that it is absolutely worth it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 04:53 PM
11

From the male perspective is simply looks like women resent men in general and only want to listen to attractive men who have success with women. Women immediately resort to name calling and shaming as soon as a man admits that he struggles with dating or can't get any intimacy. Women actively hate men who can't get sex, which seperates men into two quite distinct groups. Men who get female attention and the men who don't get female attention and women seem to actively work on keeping men in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 08:58 AM
18

Women are here to complain about their own dating struggles. They want to know how to lock down attractive men and vent about the fact that men they know are either trash or treat them like trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 05:28 PM
74

Women have no interest in understanding male dating struggles. They don't want to spend time thinking about men who they deem unworthy of attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 03:45 PM
0

The scale of 1-10 is a scale of percentiles. That means in an ideal case 10% are 1 10% are rated 2, 10% are 3s and so on. If only 3% of men are rated 8 that means the scale is broken and needs to be recalibrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 01:06 PM
3

If you let women rate men from 1 to 10, they will consistently rate most men below 5 and only very few men are rated 7 or above. Women are disgusted by a significant fraction of the male population. That means on their scale the average man is a 3.5/10 with lots of men rated as 1, 2 or 3. Which means when a woman is thinking about a 3.5 man she is actually talking about a man who is more attractive than 50% of his peers and therefore actually a 5. Women are not attracted to average men. Men on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 12:49 PM
8

As a 27 year old male I have started seeing women over 30 this year and they seem to be definitely more desperate and have low requirements in regards to looks and height because they lust over me. Something that girls under 30 just don't do. The 3 women I met so far were all in their late 30ies and have kids and are divorced. Now they are horny and would fuck almost anything but also still dream about having a loving husband to retire with. One of the women told me that she wants to start looki…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 09:30 AM
3

Well the slim young girls don't want to sleep with me, so I have to lower my standards and go with the fat cougars.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 09:38 PM
5

Earlier this year I went on 13 dates with a girl that as 27 just like me, but in all those 13 dates I never saw any signs of her being horny or aroused. I tired to kiss her 4 times and she did not say no but was very unenthusiastic. The 2 women above 35 I met so far were visibly horny and touching me and kissing me enthusiastically and we had sex every time I met one of them. These are completely different experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 05:18 PM
5

That is also the impression I get from what I have seen with my own eyes. Nonetheless there exists subreddits like this one: r/ForeverAloneWomen I seriously do not understand how these women are so good at hiding. Or they never show any interest in men and then complain about being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 02:28 PM
1

I am sure you would get more likes from your target audience if you tell them that you are specifically looking for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 12:22 PM
2

How do you find them? Do you use dating apps? Do you state your preferences in your profile?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 12:15 PM
2

Oh wow, you go really young 😅 The 36 year old I am meeting tonight told me that she married a 21 year old when she was 33, but they recently divorced. Despite that she still craves younger dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 12:15 PM
12

What I am saying is that fat women go for men way out of their league, but fail to understand that they need to lower their expectations if they don't want to be just fleshlights.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 11:31 AM
42

I keep getting ghosted by girls who are twice my weight. Fat girls have plenty of options to hook up with, which means they get picky, but then complain that the guys who fuck them don't stick around.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 11:26 AM
-6

Yes, ancient caves might hide nasty surprises.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 08:47 AM
0

There are several cases where men in their 90ies have fathered children and most men in their 50ies are still pretty much fertile. The World record for women is now at 74, but most women are effectively sterile at age 45.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 08:18 AM
24

As a male in my late 20ies I was quite surprised how many likes on Tinder I can get from women older than 35. Before I always set the age filter at 18 to MyAge+1 and barely had any success after years of being active on Tinder. But then I removed the age filter and matched with several women older than 35. Talking to them is night and day difference to talking to girls in their 20ies. The older women are straight to the point that they want to meet to have sex. Have already met 2 of them and Num…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 08:13 AM
17

No. We want sex because our hormones tell us to have sex. It has nothing to do with power.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 07:35 PM
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I'm my experience sex with experienced women does not feel special. They have set routines and specific expectations and lose interest if their specific expectations are not met. I lost my virginity to a very experienced girl just hours after I first met her at a bar. I only told her that I was a virgin when we were already naked in my bed and she got angry and told me to just get over with it and I could tell that she was disappointed to have wasted an evening to an unexperienced guy like me an…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 10:02 AM
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There are lots of black pill guys here. They just get banned for saying the obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 07:44 AM
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So you are saying it is better to risk sexual harassment than to blow a potential chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 04:14 PM
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If she sleeps with me, I am happy to have found a girl that appreciates me. Women get 10x more attractive when I know for sure that they want menand the best way to show me that she wants me is by having sex with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 03:19 PM
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Would not call it a huge difference huge. Some girls are always like that regardless who they are talking to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 11:21 PM
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I am still wondering what could have happened if I would have been more aggressive with my attempts to initiate intimacy. But at the same time #MeToo scares the shit out of me. I don't want to get into troubles. I will never know if she secretly wanted it or not. It seems that some women are almost into soft rape stuff. As a man I am quite disgusted by that and have been told all my life that I must always give her time and wait for the right moment and when it is there I will know and that I ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 11:18 PM
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That's easier said then done. I will always have doubts if I am doing the right things. MeToo really fucked us up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 09:12 PM
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That is not an approach These things have been drilled into my head from early childhood because I am a male in a western society.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 09:02 PM
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I absolutely hate that. I need to know that she wants it to. Otherwise I feel like a sexual predator, which is not fun. For me most of the enjoyment in sex is her excitement. I feel disgusting when she is not enthusiastic about my attempts to initiate
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 09:00 PM
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Hmm, that is a perspective that I have never realised so far. I've always been told that men should never put too much pressure on women and to always give her time and that I am a pervert if I want sex and that I should be ashamed of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:56 PM
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Oh wow that's fucked up. I would be so turned on if I would see that a woman wants me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:53 PM
2

? What has that to do with my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:32 PM
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You need to be more obvious and forward with what you want. From what you have told me, it is very obvious that this man would have been happy to be intimate with you, but you never asked for it. Men are constantly told that we are pigs for only wanting sex and that we are perverts etc.. We men internalise these accusations and are therefore afraid to show that we want intimacy. Women really need to say clearly what they want. You are almost certainly going to get what you ask for. You just need…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 07:47 PM
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I never understood why women compartmentalise men into friends and dating prospects. I've always also had sexual and romantic interests in girls that were effectively my friends and would not never have refused any advances from them. If you are a woman you can almost always savely assume that he wants to have sex with you. He is just too shy to ask for it or is worried to lose you in case you say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 07:44 PM
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I am absolutely terrified of trying to kiss a girl when I am not sure if she wants to be kissed, because that is bordering at sexual harassment if she is not into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 07:40 PM
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Seems like that has never happened to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 07:38 PM
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Wow, is your name Iida Ylinen? You sound like you could be the girl I was dating for 3 months earlier this year. As a woman you can be very certain that most men won't refuse intimacy and are very unlikely to reject you. Men are much more likely to get rejected, so I really do not understand your fear of rejection. And you can almost always savely assume that a man wants sex. I really do not understand how you can be confused about his intentions. Always assumes that he also wants sex. He might …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 07:36 PM
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? You mean I should just try to kiss even if its not a date? That sounds like a setup for serious embarrassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 07:00 PM
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She blocked me after telling me that I was just too boring for her and that she waited for actual attraction to materialise but then we apparently ran out of things to talk about and she lost interest. Over the course of 3 months I kissed her 4 times on the lips and each time she just froze and was very unenthusiastic but never said no.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 06:56 PM
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Maybe I am autistic, but just looking up and down someone is really not an obvious signal. What is "smiling suggestively"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 06:52 PM
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Where are all these supposedly desperate girls hiding? There were certainly none where I have lived so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 06:48 PM
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Have you ever seen a single guy without options who has rejected any girl? That does not happen. I admit that I don't actively pursue women who are twice my weight, but if they would show some interest, I would not say no. And I am sure I am exactly like most guys in that regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 06:48 PM
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Most men just want something. Who are these men who date our of their league? Which man would ever reject women of his own league? I don't know in what parallel universe you seem to live. Most guys I know don't have any options and would be happy to have any girl that gives them some attention. Lots of men in their 20ies have ZERO standards. But also Zero options.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 06:42 PM
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The examples you gave are all very subtle and very easily misunderstood or can easily go unnoticed. I wont consider anything like that to be a clear sign of interest. The reason why I never had a Gf is because I am never sure. I've been on the save side for more than a decade now and it's not working.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 06:36 PM
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What the fuck is an indicator of interest? Are these some sublte hints that I would never identify as a clear sign? Women show interest so rarely that I have almost zero practice at identifying these cryptic signals. How can I ever be sure that she finds me attractive?!?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 06:13 PM
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WTF. What does "IOIed" mean? What are "IOIs"? What you are writing here is just depressing. I . i dont want a man with social problems who didnt find me attractive enough to approach me when i cleared the runway What the fuck?!? What do you mean with "cleared the runway"? Do you really expect men to always approach women they find attractive? When I see a girl that I find very attractive its almost always an inappropriate situation or there is no time to approach. "who did not find me attractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 06:05 PM
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No, we always paid seperately
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 05:04 PM
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Why not? As a woman you are way less likely to get rejected than most men. I would be very happy if a girl would tell me to my face that she wants me. For me a girl who shows interest is automatically 10x more attractive than a girl who does not give me any obvious signs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 04:49 PM
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We always paid seperately on our dates. I don't know what she could have used me for.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 04:33 PM
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What do you mean with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 04:26 PM
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I have only 2 or 3 times been in situations where a woman was obvious. But I have experienced more than a dozen cases where to this day I still don't know if I maybe have missed a chance. Girls are just waay to sublte. One exception was when a girl asked me if I want to kiss her and I obviously said yes. I don't understand why girls are not more proactive because they are way less likely to get rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 04:03 PM
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On every date I always ask her when we can meet again. She kept agreeing to meeting me again. And she was by far the most attractive girl that I have been on more than one date with, so giving up was not an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 03:53 PM
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So how would you indicate interest? As a man I seriously don't know what women consider "indicating interest", because it almost never happens. And because it happens only so rarely I don't recognise it when it happens. What do you mean with touch barrier? If a girl puts her hand on my shoulder for a second, is that an "indication of interest"? So when a girl gives me a compliment, that means I have to make a move? I am seriously confused by this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 03:51 PM
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What do you mean with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 03:18 PM
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Indication of interest could be as little as a smile. Some women believe that that is all they need to do to tell a man that he must now make a move. But that is absolutely not how it works. I never know if a girl is just being friendly or if she is interested in more. Recently I went on 13 dates with a girl, but she never initiated any intimacy at all. She never touched me. I try to touch he several times, even tried to kiss her, but her reaction was never enthusiastic, so I stopped doing that.…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 02:58 PM
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He just did not notice that you wanted him to make a move. Just do the move yourself. Don't wait for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 02:43 PM
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I'm 27 and never had a girlfriend despite trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 07:05 PM
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I was just being myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 06:23 PM
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Most of the women I have went on dates with seem to have been bored with me, because they usually ghost me. One girl I was dating earlier this year literally ended things with me because I am too boring for her. That is what she said to my face.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 03:39 PM
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I just walk to work. If I would find a better paying job, I would just move.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:59 PM
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Having a car if you are poor can be quite irresponsible. I cant afford a car and it would get me into debt if I bought one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 07:06 PM
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What sounds too fds? I know that might not be possible for a lot of men. I got really lucky with that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 02:31 PM
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That happens when women give dating advice to men. They don't understand our issues and seem to be completely unable to relate to us in any way. Women are always seen as the more emotional gender, but when it comes to showing empathy towards beta male issues they can be as cold and oblivious as a rock. Sometimes even worse. Like how can men have the audacity to ask for empathy. Those useless and disposable weak men...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 07:04 PM
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She couldn't starve me of sex despite leading me on for 3 months. I see that as a win.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:57 PM
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That's why I kept asking her on more dates for 3 months. I got my needs met somewhere else and she paid for her part. Can't blame her too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 03:15 PM
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Yes, we almost always paid seperately.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 03:06 PM
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The trick is to never focus on only one girl at a time. I got strung along by a girl for 3 months and 13 dates without any intimacy, but at the side I was banging an older overweight woman and got my needs met that way. As a man you have to always maintain options otherwise one woman has all the control over you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 02:56 PM
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I don't know how to. But when I see an opportunity to socialise, I am happy to attend.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 09:39 PM
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If I am in a social situation and see people who I don't know yet and who seem to be open to be approached, I do try to start conversations, but that happens maybe a handful of times per year and most encounters like that dont go beyond a few sentences of small talk. In my everyday life there are simply no opportunities to have a proper conversation with a stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 09:31 PM
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I can talk to new people if they show interest in me. But that's it. Hell would freeze over before I would take dance classes. That sounds like absolute torture for an awkward guy like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 09:22 PM
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For many people it's not as easy as you make it sound.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 09:18 PM
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How do you just go and meet people??? How does that work? I just went on a holiday with my three old friends and appart from service personnel we never talked to anyone. There was just never a situation in which it would have been natural to open a conversation with a stranger that is not a service person doing their job.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 08:28 PM
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Wow what? I have never heard about autists who love socialising. I am slightly autistic myself and therefore struggle to get to know people or to keep in contact with people. I am baffled by the fact that you don't understand that for some people it is simply very difficult to meet anyone new. In my everyday life I almost never get to talk to new people. I just went on a holiday and appart from service personnel I did not talk to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 08:26 PM
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Meeting girls is very difficult for unnatractive men. Online does not work with a bad face. Autistic introverts simply don't meet people. What is so difficult for you to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 08:18 PM
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What is so difficult for you to understand about some guys simply not knowing any available girls? I know only a hand full of girls in RL right now were I live (depending on how you count 5 or 7) , but most of them are taken.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 08:16 PM
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They don't know any girls that they could ask out without getting totally embarrassed or called a creep. And cold approach only works if the man is attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 08:07 PM
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I guess you are one of the lucky guys who has never struggled with women and you therefore cannot relate. Just get your head around that there are guys who don't get any attention from women. There is a lot of things that zero pussy does to a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 08:06 PM
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Plenty of incels amongst them. I personally know several.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:47 PM
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They should try, but the comment I was commenting on suggested that incels should just ask out a girl to stop being incels, which is just ridiculous, because they are incels because they don't have anyone to aks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:46 PM
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I just checked your profile. You seem to be extremely active on incel subreddits. Why? You don't seem to be an incel. Of course some men slay absolutely, while most men get just enough female attention to get married at some point, but there are many millions of men below 30 who are desperately alone and dont know how to change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:44 PM
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Lol, are you serious? How ignorant are you? Have you seen male engineering students? "Don't be one of them"... LMAO What a funny joke
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:38 PM
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Do you understand that many men don't have any options who they could ask out, without coming across as a creep or getting rejected immediately?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:35 PM
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I've lived in several European countries througout my life. Central, West and North Europe is as much as I can narrow it down.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 06:56 PM
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I currently have a FWB with an older woman and she is very busy and only has time every other week or so, but we usually plan our meetings weeks ahead. We don't do anything spontaneously, but I don't have the impression it is one sided.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 04:35 PM
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Europe
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 03:55 PM
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That's absolutely not my experience
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 02:48 PM
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Wow, where are all the women like you hiding?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 02:32 PM
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I have moved to a different country several times in my life, but always in the pursuit of my studies and jobs, which brought me to places which were the total opposite of where I would have to go to get laid. I know how easy/difficult it is to just pack my stuff and move to a different country, because I've done it several times, but chasing pussy instead of money and living standard sounds quite difficult. With my education I might not get a proper job in the counties with easy pussy. Also thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 02:25 PM
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Seems like places where there are more women than men seem to be nice, while places where there are more men than women can be depressing or toxic. Sadly I have almost never been in the situation of being surrounded by more women than men. In my career there are always at least twice as many men as women and I often wonder where are all the women hiding?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 09:02 AM
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Holy shiet. 140:30 Those guys are in total heaven. I studied physics and it was the other way around. The few girls we had were so annoyed about the fact that everyone was having a crush on them that it was just depressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 08:51 PM
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I find the term confusing, because I use online dating with the explicit intention to date the person offline (in person). So in-person dating is the goal of online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 08:18 PM
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What do you mean with in person dating?!? I use apps to find women who are willing to talk to me and then I ask them on dates to meet them in real life. I seriously struggle to find any women who want to talk to me in real life, which is why I rely almost exclusively on apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 08:00 PM
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It's always her who cuts the contract or tells me that this is not working.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 05:48 PM
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I don't know in what world you live, but I am now 27 and have never had a girlfriend. I have never gotten that far. Usually I get ghosted after a few dates. I don't understand where this girls that are desperate for relationships are hiding. Or at least they certainly don't want relationships with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 05:19 PM
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Then where are all these girls who are supposedly looking for relationships with average guys? I can't find them anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 02:04 PM
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That is too vague to be useful
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 12:58 PM
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They get their sexual needs met and are busy. They see that they can easily get a guy that hot and see that level of attraction as their baseline, which most men fall far below. That means effectively these girls are removed from the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 12:27 PM
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All I see is that even the least visually pleasing girls I see on campus don't give me any attention. They seem to have plenty of other options and my good looking friend regularly tells me stories that girls randomly touch or kiss him, because he is so attractive and he loves it. Girls ask him for sex and he says yes absolutely every time no matter how ugly she is. His body count is through the roof and because of guys like him even ugly girls think they are entitled to only the best looking gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 08:24 AM
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Yes. I am happy to have sex and even short term relationships with women of other ethnicities and ages, but for marriage I would only consider a woman of my own ethnicity that is the same or almost the same age as me. So far I really struggle to get any attention from my female equivalents, but I am working on it. I am not going to commit long term to any other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 08:17 AM
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Nope. A young girl that likes sex with older men can easily get a sugar daddy no matter her looks. She would have to be quite ugly to not have older men interested in her as long as she is willing to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 01:24 AM
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Sure there are things that can't be forced, but simply waiting for things to happen will lead to huge disappointments especially for most men. I just want to increase my chances of getting a girlfriend or sex. What can I do to increase that chance? Just being myself obviously does not work. Tried that but it does not work. I am willing to change myself, but I don't know how and what I need to do. Some men only can get their dicks wet by doing self degrading things. That's just how it is. But I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 12:35 AM
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Men are devasted when his girl has sex with a different man for simmple biological and evolutionary reasons. If she has sex with other men he cannot be sure that his children are his. Is he investing resources in children that are not carrying his DNA? Also, he had probably put in a lot of effort to get exclusive access to that vagina but then he sees that other men get to smash it too. That is the ultimate betrayal and shows him that all the effort and patience he had was in vain.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 12:25 AM
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Even the ugly chics on campus have easy access to good looking men. I consider myself average in appearance, but if I want sex I have to look outside the campus, because even ugly college girls have insane standards. But with my academic achievements I can impess non-academic girls from 3rd world countries and with my youth I can get recently divorced 35 year olds, but the ugly chicks on the campus don't give me a chance. They all have 40+ year old shugar daddies anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 12:18 AM
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The whole concept of the "right" person is total bulshit. For many people there is simply no right person and never will be. But those people still want to enjoy life. If I would have waited for the right person, I would still be a virgin. I just take what I can get, but I know that it often does not work. I want to improve my chances of making it work and that is why I am asking these questions. I am not going to wait for the right person, because I want results this year and not somewhen in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 12:12 AM
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That click only happens to certain men. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:41 PM
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Ok, I can't remember if any girl has ever given me her phone number on a night out. But if that would ever happen, I would text her next morning asking her if she wants to meet again. I am just worried that that this might come across as too desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:31 PM
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Yes, the hot guy in college can sleep with all the cheerleaders and effectively remove them from the dating market. Some hot men have sex with a different girl every other day, while most women are fine with sex once every other week. That means one hot guy can easily remove 5 women from the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:24 PM
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In what way have the men in your life fucked up? What do I need to avoid to not fuck up?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:21 PM
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How can a man show non-"lackluster" interest without coming across as desperate? To me this sounds like an impossibly fine line to walk.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:20 PM
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What exactly confuses you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:44 PM
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I am sure it is both. I have managed to get dates with local girls of my own ethnicity and age, but they usually ghost me after one or two dates. But I have also read posts online where girls from my region complain about not being able to find a boyfriend and writing jokes about dying alone or being cat ladies etc.. So yes I think they have unrealistic standards and expectations, but at the same time they hide at home and complain that their knight in shining armour is taking too long to rescue…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 01:16 PM
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But it just says removed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:18 AM
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Why did you delete your post?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:17 AM
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Strange. I keep hearing this phrase, but I find it a quite weird concept. Never understood what that actually means.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:17 AM
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What exactly does emotionally unavailable mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:15 AM
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Had a similar experience with South American Au-pair girls in Europe. I seriously struggle to get any attention from white girls below 30 in Europe as a central European, but I have dated two different South American girls that were here as Au-pair girls and holy shiet, those girls were horny. One of them was the first time I figured out that I can actually cause raw lust in a female. The second one was a similar experience. Before I met those I was seriously questioning if females ever experien…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 10:50 AM
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The kind of girls who are DTF with average guys tend to have obvious reasons why they can't get sex from hot guys. Like bad hygiene or being massively overweight or having lots of piercings and tattoos, drug addictions etc..
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 07:52 AM
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You forget that attractive men can lay a different woman every other night, while some women are fine hooking up once every other week. That means one super hot guy can easily remove 5 or more average girls from the dating g market.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 07:38 AM
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The shy nerd is trying to talk to average females. The problem is that they all reject him.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 06:07 PM
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Do you know what MORBIDLY obese means? That is so overweight that sex might be anatomically not possible anymore. People who are morbidly obese usually have horrible hygiene because they are so fat that they can't even clean themselves properly. In my opinion it is obvious why I would prefer an anorexic girl over a girl that needs a crane to get out of bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 09:44 PM
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But if I have the choice between having sex with an actual female that wants to have sex with me and jerking off, then I am almost certainly choosing the sex. She would have to have serious infectious diseases or be morbidly obesese or have other hygienic issues to deter me from having sex with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 06:54 PM
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Well, I did not have any other options and she showed interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 06:05 PM
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Women can definitely be too thin. I once hooked up with a girl that had such a concave belly, it almost looked like I am fucking a skeleton wrapped in skin. I was honestly turned off by that, because it also made her look older than she was. Very thin girls don't age well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:13 PM
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Sometimes I wish I could just focus on my work without having any useless sexual thoughts. My sexual desire has never really given me any happiness and I think if I could just turn it off for a while it might be a great way to cope. But at the same time it would be the ultimate cuck giving up humiliation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 10:30 AM
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Is that not what you observe? I've seen that many times that below average women hook up with hot guys, but the hot guys spinn several plates in parallel and don't commit, which means one hot guy can easily remove 5 average girls from the dating market. I know a guy who is simply good looking and he has a body count of over 100 despite still in his early 20ies. He simply fucks every girl that he can get his hands on and the girls let him smash almost every time. But these girls are then so used …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 01:01 PM
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The last paragraph means that above average men want to have sex with even well below average women, which leaves nothing for the bottom third of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 11:21 AM
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It's a deep primal instinct that can't be changed by the fact that BC exists nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 10:50 AM
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The problem is that the 10/10 Chads are having lots of sex with many women from 9/10 all the way down to 6/10. Chads don't commit to 6/10 women, but give them enough sex that these women are effectively off the market. That means all other men are competing for 5/10 women and below.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 10:49 AM
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I guess you are a rare example of have it easy getting what you want. Avergae people simply cannot get exactly what they want and have to compromise in some way to no be left completely empty handed. I want a fit young white girl with big boobs that loves sex and is a science nerd. I know that this is absolutely unrealistic and will never get that, which is why I take what I can get, which is obese 35+ year old single mothers. Immagine the same when choosing an appartment for rent or purchase. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 09:23 AM
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Had this exact thing happening to me twice. A girl in my degree prograe baked a cake for me with 2 of my male friends. I was so happy, but just a few days later saw her making out with another guy. then told her that I had feelings for her, but she just ignored me and never spoke to me again afterwards. Why the fuck did she make that cake? Similar thing happened exactly 1 year afterwards. was on a party that just happened to be just a few days after my birthday thatI did not celebrate and sudden…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 11:48 PM
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Had this exact thing happening to me twice. A girl in my degree prograe baked a cake for me with 2 of my male friends. I was so happy, but just a few days later I saw her making out with another guy. I then told her that I had feelings for her, but she just ignored me and never spoke to me again afterwards. Why the fuck did she make that cake? Similar thing happened exactly 1 year afterwards. I was on a party that just happened to be just a few days after my birthday that I did not celebrate and…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 11:45 PM
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The whole concept of "love language" sounds like total BS to me. When a girl says her love language is receiving gifts, that simply means she is a high maintenance gold digger and you should see the massive red flag and dump her. And of course if you are more attractive, she will be able to ignore things she does not like about you. If she is not attracted to you she will make more demands.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 03:50 PM
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"Going for it" without consent is rape
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 09:13 AM
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What do you mean with authentic? Chads are men who use women as disposable fucktoys
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 02:42 AM
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The physics degrees are almost purely male. Source: I did a physics degree and have seen a severe lack of females for the past 10 years. Everywhere I go there are at least 3 guys for every girl, which means for an average guy it's effectively impossible to get any attention from girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 02:17 PM
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What do you mean with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:35 PM
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The coach teaches me. The women I've been with taught me nothing else than the fact that women don't want to help me get better.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:00 PM
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I am sure I am not acting entitled. They are acting entitled. Women refuse to teach men how to get better, but then complain that most men are so awful in bed. It's the women's own fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 11:44 AM
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This is just stupid and super frustrating. Why did the women I've been with refuse to teach me anything? "learn on your own" Are you serious. I want to learn together with my sexual partner and want to teach each other how to do things, but it seems like women just assume any man who does not instinctively know how to please her is not worth the effort. The more I think about all the bullshit I have to deal with when interacting with women the more I question if it is really worth it, but giving…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 11:18 AM
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What?!?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:33 AM
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Thank you for your long reply, but that sounds quite blue pilled. I don't believe in true love anymore. That is a romantic lie that is supposed to give men hope, where there is no hope. She was the best option I ever had. Decently pretty, from a good family, well educated, feminine etc... That is why I desperately wanted to be with her and did not want to make any mistakes. I wanted to give her all the time she needs and not put her under too much pressure. The feelings I had were so strong that…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:26 AM
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Fuck that seriously. I don't want to end up in jail for a rape charge.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 10:57 PM
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But wouldn't you agree that she is also at fault here. If she did want a kiss, she could have just said OK or yes and moved her head a few cm forward, but she just sat there like a statue with her eyes closed. I hate having to take charge of the situations like that. It goes completely against who I am and what I have been taught all my life. I really had feelings for her, but she doesn't reply to my text messages any more.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 10:54 PM
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She is 28 and told me repeatedly how she had always either been dating or in relationships since she was 15. And she told me that she wants children in the next 2-3 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 10:29 PM
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I asked her for explicit consent before our first kiss, but she just did not say anything. She was completely useless at communicating what she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 10:26 PM
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My whole life I have been lectured about consent and then you tell me to just ignore it all and just go for it? Seriously? I asked her and she never gave any proper replies. Until the very end I don't know if she ever considered getting intimate with me or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 10:25 PM
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For decades consent has been drilled into my head and then I am supposed to throw that all out just because this bitch can't tell me what she wants? My man you have to be willing to lose her to have any chance of having her. That is just stupid. The first kiss shouldn't be something you ask for If it's the first kiss, that has to be the one kiss where I need to get the most explicit consent. I actually did kiss her on our 5th date. We were sitting on her couch at her place and I leaned in for a …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 10:19 PM
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And now you have to resort to whataboutism? Its really impossible to have a proper conversation between the sexes anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 10:07 PM
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I tried to kiss her on several dates and at some point I told her that a few times, but she always played it off as if she did not notice or she was distracted by something or it was in public and not a good moment etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:59 PM
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Seriously. I'm a man. She is a woman. Is there anything more obvious than the fact that I wanted to have sex with her? She can claim a lot of stuff, but she can't claim to be that oblivious. She almost always turned away when I tried to kiss her, which to me was a clear signal that she is not ready for intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:39 PM
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I thought she just needs more time. I don't mind waiting if I know that there is a high chance of high quality sex and commitment down the line. But she dumped me because nothing ever happened between us.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 07:13 PM
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You are unbearable. Sometimes I really wonder how marriages were able to last in the past. Now it seems like men and women are getting more and more incompatible. At least now I know what evil toughts women have. A lot of men think you are pretty and innocent creatures. But I thank the redpil community for showing me how evil and vile women truly are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 07:11 PM
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But she kept going on dates with me for 3 months almost every week.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 07:08 PM
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I did not explicitly tell her that I want sex, because I assumed that that is more than obvious. I mean what guy does not want sex? I told their several times that I wanted to kiss her, but could not do it because she turned away just when I tried to lean in for a kiss. I tried to explain that to her several times but she always shrugged it off without giving me an explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 07:07 PM
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Almost every time I go in this subreddit I am disgusted by how vile and misandrist a lot of women are. It is truly depressing. How is a world like this supposed to function if you hate us so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 06:57 PM
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I want both. Earlier this year I dated a girl for three months, but I we never got beyond a few short kisses and then she ended things with me, because "nothing ever happened between us". That was so horriblly frustrating. I want a relationship and sex. I don't understand why it has to be either or.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 06:55 PM
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Because I had no other option and I had real feelings for her. I wanted this to work and I wanted her to be my girlfriend. I did not want to pressure her on anything and I had heard that some girls just take time before they are comfortable with intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 06:52 PM
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But if I say I want sex I get ghosted. So I don't say that anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 06:50 PM
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No, but I know several ugly no status guys. It is absolutely sad to see things like that said by a woman. That means it is truly over for some of my friends. They are already on the brink of suicide and if they could read what you are spouting here, I am sure some of them would rope themselves same day.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 06:49 PM
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You also seem to be a troll or do you have any idea how little attention from women a significant fraction of the male population gets? You can try it yourself. Take a few pictures of a totally hideous woman and make a Tinder profile with it. You will get more likes than the average 20 year old guy fresh out of college and infinitely more likes than an ugly 50 year old man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 06:47 PM
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Wow, what? Be the target of that? You say that as if it was something bad. I just want to spend time with a girl that likes me and I want sex. I would prefer a committed relationship and have the sex there, but if she does not want that I would also be happy with something casual. I just want something. Because I usually don't have anything at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 06:44 PM
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Even the most hideous women get attention from some men. No woman is as lonely as the bottom percentiles of men. I don't understand what you mean with "" dealing with tenfold and more of anything ugly men will ever have to experience of negativity "" Ugly men are not even allowed to look at a woman. Society treats ugly men as fully disposable human waste. There are dedicated shelters for homeless women, but none specifically for men, because there are more homeless men than women. Even ugly wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 06:41 PM
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Maybe some, but I am sure you are doing some mental gymnastics to justify why you hate ugly men so much. The ugly men I know are mostly decent guys and would do everything to keep a girl happy, but they never get a chance to prove that they are good guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 06:37 PM
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What is that "being confident enough to make her feel wanted" even supposed to mean? I don't want to violate her. I want to respect her consent. That is what they have been hammering into my head for decades. I never wanted to rape her. If she actually expected me to do that, then she is messed up and a massive red flag. I am seriously so angry about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 06:35 PM
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Oh wow, so when girls on Tinder have asked me what I am looking for, I usually say " I am not looking for anything specific. I just want to met you and see where it goes. I would be open to almost everything." So you are saying that this is a massive mistake and a turnoff for women? But sex and relationship are not two mutually exclusive things. We can have sex and a relationship at the same time. But if I say I want a relationship, I might miss out on sex and when I say I want sex I will get gh…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 06:31 PM
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Fuck, I don't want to have to chose. I want both sex and a relationship and that is not mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 06:27 PM
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Oh my god. This is so twisted and sad. So you really rationalise being not attracted to ugly men by saying they all have issues and treat you badly? I am sure there is some mental gymnastics involved. But at the same time maybe there is some truth to it. I mean how bitter and broken would you be if you would never get any attention from any men and most men would actively hate you for being a creep. That would surely mess up your psyche.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 06:25 PM
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I was dating a girl for 3 months, but only had a few very brief kisses with her and never got any further. She broke up with me because "nothing has ever happened between us" and because I am too boring. I tried to explain to her that she never gave me any signals that she wants to be touched or anything like that. Usually when I tried to kiss her she would lean away. A few weeks in dating her I told their that I would like to kiss her to say hello and god bye everytime we meet and ever since I …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 06:19 PM
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I am over with it, but I haven't given up on getting laid yet. Still trying and just want to maximise my chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 06:10 PM
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think that you are just so disgusted by these men that you perceive everything they do as mean, while you would fully tolerate the same behaviour from more attractive men. Just like how the difference between flirting and sexual harassment is if you are attracted to the man or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 06:06 PM
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I think that you are just so disgusted by these men that you perceive everything they do as mean, while you would fully tolerate the same behaviour from more attractive men. Just like how the difference between flirting and sexual harassment is if you are attracted to the man or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 06:06 PM
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So you are saying that I might have more success with women if I just straight up tell them that I want sex??? But I actually would be happy about a relationship too. I just want to spend some time with a girl that likes me. That's why I am usually completely ambiguous with what I want. I obviously want sex, but if I can get a proper relationship I would be even more happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 06:03 PM
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Yeah she is fucking hot. Just the right curves and her face is OK too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 06:00 PM
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What the fuck are you talking about? I'm 27 slim male and I would definitely not say no to most of theses women if they would give me a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 06:00 PM
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Who does that? You mean some basement dwelling neckbeards who haven't met any women IRL in the past few years? Most men I know clearly are attracted to average girls, but they are out of reach for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 05:56 PM
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The women on that website are absolutely decent. I am sure average men would love to date women like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 05:52 PM
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What do you mean with "are clear with us on where we stand"? Do you prefer a man who unambiguously only wants sex and nothing else over a man who is open for everything?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 05:51 PM
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How do you get to such a ridiculous generalisation? Have all ugly men treated you badly?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 05:48 PM
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I (M27) hooked up with a 39 year old woman yesterday, because I don't have any standards. She let me smash, so I went for it. I never say no to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 01:00 PM
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How can I learn to be dominant? I simply don't know how to do it and I find it very difficult to fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 09:55 AM
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How to get better at sex then? Is it simply practice? I have had sex, but don't think I got any better, because the women I've been with did not teach me how to do things better.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 09:53 AM
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I really don't understand why she got angry at me for being a virgin, but she did not ask because she did not expect it. Sorry for being confusing. Yes, I would really have liked to lose my virginity to a girl that would have appreciated my virginity. I wanted to be properly introduced to sex and not just "get over with it and just fuck me now." It especially hurt because she did not want to see me again. I had heart pain for weeks. Some women don't seem to understand that men have feelings too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:39 AM
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When I los my virginity, I told their hat I was a virgin right after we had taken off all our clothes. She got weirdly angry at me and told me to just get over with it. I think lying might actually have helped in that situation. But if I would have been with a decent person, who would appreciate my virginity and explain things to me, I would have missed out on a beautiful experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:17 AM
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Thanks, for your reply. The problem with her calling me boring is that it is a very vague feedback that I don't know how to implement. If she would have told me that I am not muscular enough, I would hit the gym. If she would have told me that I am not rich enough, I would double down on my finances, but what am I supposed to do when I am boring? How can I have the confidence of knowing that I am a catch, if I am regularly pressented with evidence that suggests otherwise. If I were a catch, wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 10:25 PM
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Because women reject me. Just a week ago a girl that I met several times told me to my face that I am too boring for her and that she does not want to see me again. How am I ever supposed to build confidence when I get hit in the face with stuff like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 09:57 PM
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I have been trying to work on myself for many years to have something to be proud of. I work out and am in quite good shape and I just finished my masters thesis. But that does not change the fact that I feel like a pathetic looser when talking to women and women see me as a pathetic looser. How can I ever escape this feedback loop?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 09:52 PM
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Oh wow so therapy is even more pointless than I thought it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 09:13 PM
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Oh wow, it is quite sad how far you missed the point. I am not complaining about all women. My comment was specifically about the women who have rejected and ghosted me personally. I was talking about the women that I have met in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 08:57 PM
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Your comment is the same as telling a depressed person to just be happy or telling an obese person to just eat less or telling a person in a wheelchair to just get up. Do you understand what I mean or are you trolling?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 08:54 PM
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The problem is that it consistently does not work and I would like to know what I am doing wrong. Every time I talk to a girl I already know that is going to last maximum a few weeks until she moves on inevitably.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 04:45 PM
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I always get angry when I hear the thing about being too nice. Same with the golden retriever thing. I want a clingy gf.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 04:39 PM
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But I am desperate, beause I never get validation. How am I supposed to ever get out of this cycle?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 03:19 PM
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I usually just get ghosted and never find out what the reason was. Or recently I dated a girl and she just said I am too boring when she ended things with me. I wish women could explain what exactly I should do differently instead of ghosting or extremely vague accusations. How am I ever supposed to get better when I am forever clueless what I am doing wrong. I want to learn, but women refuse to teach.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 03:17 PM
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I usually just get ghosted and never find out what the reason was. Or recently I dated a girl and she just said I am too boring when she ended things with me. I wish women could explain what exactly I should do differently instead of ghosting or extremely vague accusations. How am I ever supposed to get better when I am forever clueless what I am doing wrong. I want to learn, but women refuse to teach.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 03:17 PM
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I usually just get ghosted and never find out what the reason was. Or recently I dated a girl and she just said I am too boring when she ended things with me. I wish women could explain what exactly I should do differently instead of ghosting or extremely vague accusations. How am I ever supposed to get better when I am forever clueless what I am doing wrong. I want to learn, but women refuse to teach.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 03:16 PM
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I usually just get ghosted and never find out what the reason was. Or recently I dated a girl and she just said I am too boring when she ended things with me. I wish women could explain what exactly I should do differently instead of ghosting or extremely vague accusations. How am I ever supposed to get better when I am forever clueless what I am doing wrong. I want to learn, but women refuse to teach.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 03:16 PM
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I usually just get ghosted and never find out what the reason was. Or recently I dated a girl and she just said I am too boring when she ended things with me. I wish women could explain what exactly I should do differently instead of ghosting or extremely vague accusations. How am I ever supposed to get better when I am forever clueless what I am doing wrong. I want to learn, but women refuse to teach.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 03:16 PM
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I usually just get ghosted and never find out what the reason was. Or recently I dated a girl and she just said I am too boring when she ended things with me. I wish women could explain what exactly I should do differently instead of ghosting or extremely vague accusations. How am I ever supposed to get better when I am forever clueless what I am doing wrong. I want to learn, but women refuse to teach.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 03:16 PM
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But why do women never explain what the problem is or what we should do differently?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:44 PM
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What do you mean with golden retriever energy and being too nice?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:42 PM
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I (M27) recently removed the age filter on Tinder and Bumble and was surprised by how many matches I got from women 35+ And some of them seem to be quite interested. I have the impression that older women have a higher probability of giving me a like than younger women and even though I am not that attracted to older women, I am exploring that possibility now. Recently got into a FWB arrangement with a 35 year old woman. She is super busy and only has time once every 3 weeks or so, but when we m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 08:39 AM
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Seriously? Alpha widows reject all they guys that are not as alpha as him. An alpha widow is therefore the opposite of a cum dumpster.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 05:01 PM
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Men habe simply a lower threshold for attraction. Most men are aroused by anything that looks healthy and female. Men just accept that they can't get attention from certain women and then attach their hope of getting laid to unnatractive women. When I go to a social event, I don't bother looking at the attractive girls, because I know I will never have a chance with them, but I look at the less attractive girls. I am most attracted to the sweet spot of girls who are not too ugly, but who I think…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 04:18 PM
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I always thought having an interesting career and having lived abroad would make me an interesting person, but that absolutely does not seem to be the case. Girls see that I don't have many friends and that I am not very dominant and they just get bored and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 08:20 AM
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How do you think I should change?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 01:40 AM
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First what do you mean with sex is free? Second, no you don't deserve 2 women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 10:49 PM
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Are you Muslim? You are fucking deranged. Only a true narcicist can write something that stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 10:31 PM
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Why do you have to belittle men like that? It seems some women enjoy insulting men. It's like kicking someone in the face just because they are already on the ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 10:04 PM
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Are you serious or did you forget the /s ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 10:02 PM
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I have lived in 6 different countries, worked at CERN and am currently working on a satellite project. I program and work with electronics, which means I am basically guaranteed to have a stable income for the rest of my working life. I am skinny, but still fit. Not much muscles, but I regularly run 5k. I have been told that I have a nice beard and a manly face. But I struggle immensely with girls. At 27 I have never had a girlfriend. The last girl I dated for 3 months just could not convince he…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 10:00 PM
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And you are getting what you expect?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 09:51 PM
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I absolutely hate that women project random expectations on me just because I have male genitalia. I don't know what masculinity is and I don't know how to be dominant. I am not confident and I am so sick of having to fake confidence to be accepted by girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 07:18 PM
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A lot of men have zero sex in their early 20ies and only in their late 20ies or early 30ies get any sex at all and are not ready to settle down then.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 04:14 PM
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How painful is it? I heard its horrible pain for months and you will never reach your full flexibility again.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 10:46 AM
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Seems like you are a very picky man. For me >80% of all non-obese girls between 18-25 are pretty and pleasant to look at. I guess at ages 30+ this drops significantly due to the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 07:49 AM
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But where do they get that confidence from? I know women like confidence, but how could guys who get consistently rejected by girls ever build up confidence? Its a feedback loop. Confident guys get more confidence because girls like them and unconfident guys get even less unconfident because girls hate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 10:04 PM
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It seems most men perceive most women to have similarly pleasant to look at faces. Only very few are unpleasant to look at and only very few are stunning. In a distribution like that it does not make sense to talk about the average, because they are the vast majority and good enough looking that most men would be happy with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 10:00 PM
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Why not? More women on OLD is a win for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 03:37 PM
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OP says that women say the standards FOR men are at an all time low. Not the standards OF men. The reason for that is simple. Hot men can get away with absolutely everything, which means there are zero behaviour standards for attractive men. That is what women mean when they say the bar is on the floor. But that only applies to confident masculine attractive men. The kind of men women actually think about. They don't mean average men when they say things like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 02:39 PM
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But if having any standards at all means that he won't ever get anything, it means his standards are too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 02:28 PM
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How can his standards be too low if he does not even get attention from the least attractive women? Men have to lower their standards until they get some attention. For most men that means that they basically go for everything that has a vagina. They can't afford to have any standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 02:23 PM
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If you are a woman, you should try OLD. You will have a massive advantage there in comparison to real life. Most men don't approach women in real life any more.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 07:22 AM
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There are only few women my age and younger that I am not attracted to, but I still try to be friendly to them. And I respect older women even though I am not attracted to them
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 07:09 AM
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What I am trying to say is that female selectiveness seperates men into two very distinct categories. Men who have an abundance of sex and men who struggle to get laid at all. While most women can get sex any time. That is why I say there are 3 different kind of people on the dating market with the following hierarchy: Attractive men Women Unnatractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 06:27 AM
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Yes, but even unnatractive women get attention from men. Some men will fuck anything that has a vagina, while there is no equivalent behaviour in women. For women there is no minimum attractiveness to get male attention, while for men there is a hard cutoff under which it is almost impossible to get any attention from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 06:21 AM
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When reading the title I thought you meant that some women just don't take care of themselves. I have really been trying to date recently and noticed that some girls have visible hair on their upper lips, but don't do anything about it, or one girl was proudly announcing to me that she does not shave any of her body hair at all. Sorry, but that is just unnatractive to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 06:10 AM
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Smoking is a deal breaker for me, but otherwise Spot on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 06:08 AM
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But being angry at insecure men is like kicking someone in the head just because they fell over. That is just making it worse and punishes people who are already in a tough spot. Women are actively increasing the inequality between men and then call for equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 09:35 AM
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You expect men to fake confidence? Do you have any clue how hard that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 09:14 AM
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You forget that they all want the same few top men. There are 3 types of people in the dating world. 1. Attractive men 2. Women 3. "Unattractive" men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 08:58 AM
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Ok, was not sure if it was meant sarcastic, because I have seen women getting furious because a man showed his insecurity. For some reason some women get angry when they see an insecure man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 10:49 PM
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How is it even possible to be angry about someones insecurity? How can you blame someone for their insecurity?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 10:31 PM
2

I still don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 06:54 PM
3

I still don't get it why you hate it. Yes, top 1% men get approached all the time. The men who complain never get approached. Why do you hate the fact that they are upset about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 06:48 PM
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Yes, but I still have no clue why you hate it when men complain about never getting approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 06:42 PM
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I would tell her that men simply don't approach anymore, because it either is seen as harassment or he has a 95% chance of getting cruely rejected. One reason for that is Tinder. I would tell her to get a Tinder account and she will have a buffet of dick to choose from. Approaching in real life is not a thing anymore for average people and was replaced by dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 06:38 PM
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Why do you hate that? Most men never get approached and that is a simple fact of live and it is obvious why those men don't like it. But why do you have a problem with the fact that they complain?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 06:21 PM
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I have been talking to this girl for 3 months now and met her every other week. She recently told me that she is uncomfortable kissing me and does not want to do that after we tried 2 times. I guess I should really take the hint and stop talking to her. Because at the sime time I have been seeing another woman with whom I had sex every time I met her. The difference is night and day.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 06:36 PM
3

Seriously? Haven't seen that in Finland
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:50 AM
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That is only true for southern Europeans. In Finland you would never see a display of affection like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:09 AM
3

I'm just saying that I never experienced anything like what you describe. I've had a hand full of crushes over the years but never anything mutual.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 03:19 PM
7

Wow, I'm 27 and you are telling me that I have never experienced actual love?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 03:04 PM
1

It is possible to get a FWB and then it is worth the time and effort, because all you need to invest is the time you spend penetrating her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 06:58 PM
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@OP, I don't know in what parallel universe you live, but I have asked out objectively ugly girls and they were not interested in me, even though I consider myself at least average. Ugly girls are not invisible. Men like me see ugly girls as a great chance to finally experience being desired by someone, but then these girls ghost us or are not interested in us. I often search for the most unnatractive or desperate girl in the room and try to talk to her, but usually there is already a queue of g…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 02:07 PM
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I absolutely never cold approach and I have only ever done warm approaches when there were obvious signs that she likes me more than just a friend. I would never approach a 10/10 because there is a 100% chance of getting humiliated. There is no attractiveness threshold. If she gives me obvious signs that she is interested she can be quite ugly and I would still be excited. I don't care. Just be the most I interesting one in my current matches. Could be as low as 1/10. I have messaged obese singl…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 10:53 AM
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I go on dates with girls that I don't find attractive just to practice how to date so that once I find a girl that I find attractive, I will not be completely lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 10:36 AM
2

Wow, that is good to know. I never know when it is appropriate to initiate and girls always lose interest after a few dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 11:03 PM
1

Many men have the choice between staying in a bad relationship or being alone. They have the choice between some intimacy and no intimacy at all. Isn't it obvious why they choose to stay in the relationship? For many men being alone is so depressing and painful that they prefer to pursue women who have obvious red flags over staying alone for many years. Women don't understand what it means to be single as a man, because girls always get some attention from men, while many men only get female at…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 12:00 PM
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These average looking guys are forced to do everything she says and more just to make her stay while she walks all over him. If a woman is really attracted to a man due to his physical features, he can treat her as badly as he wants and she will still love him. Women who always date way out of their league in terms of looks are treated terribly because these hot guys can get away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 11:14 AM
0

Women are notoriously terrible at explaining why exactly they are upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 03:10 PM
1

But who are these girls sleeping with? Its definitely not guys like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 02:58 PM
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What's even crazier is that they are not fucking average men. Otherwise guys like me would have more chances. These girls get all that action exclusively from hot fit and tall guys. This means they don't even have to lower their standards much to get into the 3 digit notch count. While most guy cannot have any standards if they want to get lucky at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 02:56 PM
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It only depends on how hot you are as a man. If you are a 4 or lower it is not worth the hazzle. It does not matter how much effort you put in, you will only get your heart broken if you even get any attention from women. If you are a 6-7 you can get lucky occasionally but don't put too much effort into it. Just be available and lower your expectations. If you are an 8-9 your efforts will be rewarded and you will get hot girls that are happy to please you and if you are a 10 you will have women …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 02:43 PM
1

Wow, it sounds almost unbelievable as a guy who has had multy-year dry spells between intimacy. These girls truly live in a completely different world.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 02:23 PM
1

Yeah, this sounds exhausting as fuck. Isn't it more convenient to at least stick a few weeks at a time with the same guy? Also most women say that most hookups are really unsatisfactory, so why would they keep doing that hundreds of times?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 02:07 PM
3

But are there really women who consistently do a new guy every week for years?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 01:59 PM
3

What kind of life do you need to have to get well into triple digits? That's equivalent a new partner every week for 3 years. That is porn star territory.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 01:50 PM
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If the guys you are dating are not really into you it simply means that you are shooting too high and that the guys are out of your league. As soon as you get a man who sees you as a catch, he will admire you and treat you like an angel. But you will probably not be attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 01:10 PM
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Sadly that is not how it works. I had my 9th date with the same girl this week and she still says she does not know me and wants to take things slowly before saying that we are officially dating. I have kissed her twice but she told me that this was too soon for her and that I should not do it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 01:07 PM
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Well, she is a bit on the more heavy side, but for me it is amazing to finally have found a woman who is sexually excited to see me. That is a whole new experience and I love it, but I would not consider a proper relationship with her, because she is a severeal years older than me, has a child that is her No1 priority and she is recently divorced. So 3 No Gos for me, but yes the feeling of being desired is fantastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:57 AM
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My FWB is a single mother. She is usually super busy, but when she has time every other week, she is DTF for real.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:51 AM
3

Yes, most men have no or barely any first hand evidence for women actually wanting sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:26 PM
5

I actually went on a few dates recently with a girl I really want a relationship with, but she told me that she finds our dates exhausting, because I let her do the talking and she says that it's bothering her that our conversations are nothing new or interesting for her. She does not enjoy explaining things to me, even though I enjoy listening to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:57 AM
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I took until the middle of my 20ies until I first experienced first hand that women can be actually sexually attracted to me. I consider myself totally average in looks. Not overweight but also no muscles. I have never been in a relationship and up to the moment I lost my virginity I struggled to believe that women are even able to feel sexual attraction towards average men. Since then it happened maybe 1 or 2 times per year. It is very rare, but it can happen when actively searching for it. I a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:48 AM
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Several times. I'm a man in studying in a STEM field and that means I simply take what I can get. I hooked up with obese and ugly girls, because they are my only options. It was OK. Like I actually got laid. Drunk hookups are stupid because it's difficult to enjoy sex while being drunk. Dating obese or ugly women is fine if that is my only option, but I keep asking myself how do I tell her that I don't actually want to marry her
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 09:27 PM
1

Women do approach, but they only approach men who are way out of their league. Then they see that it does not work and stop trying. In a world in which only women would approach, most men would never get anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 04:42 PM
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Men are not intimidated by success. They are annoyed by the unrealistic standards and requirements that women with success have. Successful women are often aggressive and full of entitlement. No man wants that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 09:19 AM
2

In my university we have a team that builds satellites. I am in that team with 10 other guys and there are ZERO women. My master thesis is about radiation shielding for satellites and I have never had a girlfriend, because wherever I go, there are always very vew girls. I already had 2 internships at CERN. Total lack of girls there. I went to Kiruna to study in the international space master program and there also the gender ratio was 5:1 with males being the majority. There is a massive lack of…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 04:46 PM
3

My current friends with benefits is such a high sex drive woman who divorced her husband because he stopped initiating sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 04:08 PM
1

Hmm, I could try at least reducing it. I absolutely hate being horny, because it just causes terrible frustration and I only jerk off to get rid of the hornyness and to be able to focus on other things. I don't even enjoy it. And, I feel lonely and sad on a daily basis, so I also only do it when I feel lonely and sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:00 PM
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I really don't watch much porn. I almost only look at solo female pictures and short gifs on Reddit. And that just for ~5 minutes to get a release and then I move on with my day. I really don't think that's the issue. Problem is that I am way to easily distracted from my work and being horny at work is an absolute no-go, which is why I don't think I could ever do no-fap. If I go more than a day without a release, I get even more easily distracted and I get moody and irritable and I am sure that …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:48 PM
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I do, but I guess not much. Like only a few minutes per day to get off. I have never had a girlfriend, so I have never been in the position to cheat. I don't understand what you mean with your empathy sentence. You are basically accusing me of not having empathy for women? I would like to be friendly to women and help them and understand their problems, but that is often not a appreciated. I fully admit that I do not understand women. They seem to have completely different way of thinking about …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:05 PM
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Being nerdy is my identity and I am not going to fake other interests just to impress women. But I am quite sad that my interests seem to be non-existent in girls. I have never talked to a girl that had the same interests. What I was trying to say is that OP has success with women because of other factors. The job in his bio is not the reason why he is getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:11 PM
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Nah, women immediately see that he is tall. At university I have seen it countless times. In a mixed group the girls spent much more time looking at the tallest guy of the group than on at shorter guys. The tall guy always gets more attention even if he does not say anything at all, just because of his physical presence and dominance and girls are laser focused on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:21 PM
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I call bulshit on this. I have worked at CERN and have one picture of myself standing in front of the Antimatter factory with a massive sign saying "ANTIMATTER FACTORY" . I had this picture in my Tinder profile for 3 years now and really strugglle to get any matches. In my bio I mention that my master thesis is about radiation shielding for satellites. No girl has ever commented on that or shown specifIc interest in that. I recently went on a few dates with a girl and she literally told me that …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:17 PM
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I'm a 27 year old man and I honestly still have not understood what it actually means to pursue a woman or how to do that. And I am absolutely certain that I am not an exception in this. Many guys have zero clue how to get going with a girl. And maybe he is not super enthusiastic about her, but if she wants him then she should take the initiative. If you always wait for the man to do exactly what you expect, you are setting yourself up for a future as a cat lady.
/r/RedPillWomen27/03/22 05:30 PM
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Nope, lots of guys are way too afraid of being too pushy or too desperate. And even some handsome men have zero clue how to actually pursue women. Especially handsome men are used to not having to put in any effort. I would strongly advise her to ask him explicitly for a real date. She should literally write him: "I want to go on a real date with you". To make it unambiguously clear that she wants to date him and that they do not just happen to hang out together.
/r/RedPillWomen27/03/22 03:29 PM
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Yes, but they tend to either wait for Mr perfect or go for the same good looking, rich, tall guy while half the men in their 20ies are incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 12:47 PM
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Almost none of my friends throughout my 20ies had frequent sex. But I knew one guy who told me at age 23 that he had already hooked up with more than 100 girls, while several of my friends were still virgins at age 25. The "sex inequality" among young men is absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 11:49 AM
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It's about giving them hope and helping men cope with the fact that they are almost invisible to most women until they have achieved something in their lives. Most 20 year old men get absolutely no attention from girls, because all the girls only have eyes for the hottest, tallest rich boy. But later in life women realise that the hottest guy in town won't commit to her and she will settle for someone less. And that is the 35 year old man who spent his while 20ie working on himself and his caree…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 11:32 AM
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The advice "don't be insecure" is as useful as telling a suicidal person to "just be happy". But I guess women are incapable of understanding that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 09:09 PM
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Wow, I completely disagree with the whole post. When I was 18 I was a total hopeless incel because the girls of my age were dating 25+ year old guys who had their own car and flat and stuff like that. I have no interest in women older than me, but because I want sex I increased the age range on Tinder to also include women older than me and my match rate more than doubled. I am 27 and I get as many matches from women above 30 as I get from women below 30 even though I find most of them quite unn…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 08:12 AM
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How did he do it?I have never seen stuff like that in real life.Wherever I went it was always the tall muscular guy who got attention from girls. The only times I managed to get any attention from decent looking girls was when they were flat out wasted. Seems like large enough quantities of alcohol removes their inhibitions and they start liking average guys, while alcohol kills my sex drive. That has led to some very disappointing hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 03:25 PM
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Yes. I would prefer being settled for just so that I can see what having a woman in my life would be like. I hate being alone because I hope that not being alone would be better. Of course, I feel pathetic, but that does not change the fact that I want enforced monogamy. I am frustrated and will probably die alone, but I at least want to experience what it would be like to not have this problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 01:45 PM
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Alright, Chad. Its your height. Girls see how tall you are and get instantly wet. I'm 5'7 which means most girls don't even notice my presence. And I constantly get asked on Tinder how tall I am. When I reply they either unmatch or ghost. And I had my first time after graduation at age 24. Before that I tried yountless times but never got anywhere and since then I had on average one hookup per year despite being active on Tinder and Bumble.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 10:31 AM
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Sure, not all hot men do this, but I have talked to college Chads (guys below 25 years old) who told me they have already fucked more than a hundred girls. They have on average a new girl every one overy other week, while I did not managed to get anything during college. I have been active on Tinder for 4 years and had sex 6 times. How crazy hot do you have to be to get 12 girls in a week?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 07:34 AM
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Hot guys dont have to cheat because they can afford to never commit to any girl. The guys who can have a different girl every other night don't settle. They fuck all the girls. I consider myself an average man and over the past few years I have tried to sleep with every girl that gave me any chance, but that meant that I got laid maybe once per year. I never say no to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 10:57 PM
1

I consider myself average and I try to sleep with every girl that gives me a chance. Which means I get laid once per year on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 10:54 PM
1

What does that mean? That sentence has zero information in it. Can you explain what that would look like in practice? Women are not attracted to their equals. Women are only horny for men who are more attractive than her, but men fuck what ever women they can get, even if they are significantly less attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 08:52 PM
1

Seriously, does that not match what you observed with your own eyes?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 08:49 PM
1

Are you a human being and have you seen how men and women function? Men want sex and fuck what they can. In college is it extreme. The ripped tall frat boys have sex with all the girls, while below average guys like me have their first time after graduation. Women are hypergamous, which means they only lust for a small percentage of men and these top men are often happy to fuck another side chick. Even average girls can get sex with top men, if they are slutty enough and put out, while a 3/10 gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 08:18 PM
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I don't understand what you are talking about. The reason why women have all the power is that the top men are promiscious and have sex with even average women. Those average women are therefore not sexually attracted to average men, even though they are their equal or "looks match". This means average men have to go for below average women in order to have a chance and the lower end of men are left without any options, because even the bottom percentages of women can get laid by offering sex to…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 08:05 PM
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What do you mean with that? The top 1% percent of men will never voluntarily stop fucking all the top 20% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 07:58 PM
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I had a 17 year old female flat mate in my first year of university when I was 18 and she was dating a 25 year old mechanic. He would come over several times per week and they had loud and passionate sex in her room right next to my room, where I was trying to focus on my math homework. I was so jealous, that I started to cry when I heard them go at it, but then obviously masturbated to the thought of what they are doing there. We once had a party in the flat, where I passed out in my room becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 10:33 PM
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I am. Seriously. I know a girl who was in my class who married a 30 year old when she was 22. And I have seen several other cases like this. In high school I always got super jealous about the 24 year old who picked up my female class mates after school, while I was always alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 10:26 PM
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I've always been super jealous about men who pick up girls in my age range, because I always tried to ask out the girls in my school class or university courses and it never worked because they often already had older lovers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 10:23 PM
2

I don't understand what you mean with at ease. I feel at ease when I notice that she is getting turned on by me. That's all there is to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 09:14 PM
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I seriously don't understand what you mean with charm. If a girl is horny that makes her 10x more attractive than a girl that is cold and uninterested. That's all she has to do. Show that she is horny. I have been searching for desperate women for years, but I cannot find any. I seriously want to see where they are hiding, but they are either extremely good at hiding or I am looking in the wrong places. They are for sure not on Tinder. A lot of women put effort into stuff like makeup and random …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 09:01 PM
1

No, I mean most women below 30 wear very obvious makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 12:25 PM
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I am OK with that kind of makeup, but most girls here wear such obvious and fake makeup that it feels like talking to a robot with a rubber mask.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 12:18 PM
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I don't think women with makeup look better. I think it is fake and dishonest and looks stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 11:47 AM
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I'm a man and I hate makeup. I want women to stop wearing makeup and I would never put it on my face.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 11:42 AM
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Very interesting! Just had a quick read and your work is very important. You explained how much backlash you experienced about your own work and it shows that academia wants to burry stuff like this. Your work is unique and an important contribution to bring topics like this into the academic discourse!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 11:40 AM
1

I get hard by the thought of sex. She does not have to be attractive. As long as it is obvious that she is female and has at least some tits and a pussy, I will get it up. Sex is something that special to me that I can't afford to miss a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 09:01 AM
4

Which part is wrong in your opinion and why?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 08:58 AM
4

So you have erectile disfunction?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 01:16 AM
1

Everyone settles and wonders if they could have done or could do better. All relationships are transactional in some way. He only agreed to a relationship to get regular sex. She wants a husband as a status symbol. She does not want to pay her own bills. Etc.. Many relationships only keep going because its is "cheaper to keep her" My parents would have divorced years ago if they wouldn't own a house together. Now they just coexist in the same building and sleep on different floors. And that is b…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 10:24 PM
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Yes, I had sex with women I found very unattractive, but they were always my only option. When I see any chance of getting my dick wet, I obviously take it. The next chance could be years away. Even if that means doing it with women I don't even want to look at.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 08:42 PM
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Because we men are attracted to women who are agreeable and who don't put any effort in. Life would be so much easier if female attraction would work the same as male attraction. Women have it so easy. Just by existing you can be sure that men like you. But a man has to work hard to even be considered.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 07:39 PM
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Yes, I have seen so little evidence for the concept of "true love" that I do not believe in it anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 07:12 PM
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But women are disgusted by male weakness. You want to know all his problems because you need that to decide if it is worth keeping him or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 02:42 PM
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I have heard countless stories from men who got dropped after showing some weakness. What are you referring to in your second sentence. What "own account"?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 02:37 PM
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But if a man opens up about his feelings you loose all respect for him. Women want men to open up, but only because they want to see that he is strong and to verify that he has no insecurities. Women hate insecure men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 02:36 PM
1

That is what women force us to do. No wonder the male suicide rate is so high.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 02:23 PM
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"I've had many men doing nice things for me without any ulterior motive" How would you ever know if the guy is not fantasizing about you in a sexual or romantic way? Almost certainly most of them did.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 01:43 AM
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You are completely fine with taking his offer, but next time you should at least think about the fact that he almost certainly wants to get in your pants.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 01:21 AM
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You say that I am not supposed to simply ask her, but instead need to touch her before asking if I want to have sex. That is not how consent works. And that means that women apparently can't communicate something like that verbally.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:35 PM
1

Why would you ban abortion? This question is about a man saying that he demands an abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:33 PM
1

Yes, I fully agree with that. I am fully for the legalisation of abortion. But if she wants to keep the baby, while I do not want to keep the baby, she currently can just keep the baby and force me to pay for a child that I never wanted. I think that is wrong. If I as the man don't want to keep the baby, then there should be a way out for me. Currently women can just lie to the man that they on birth control and take his seed and make a baby with it without the consent of the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:09 PM
1

But if I don't want the child while you want to keep it, then I have no say in the decision whether you abort or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 10:36 PM
1

As a man I never understood why women won't consider their friends in a romantic or sexual way. I was sexually interested in most of the girls I ever talked to but never had a real female friend because I would either ask her out and get rejected or see that she is taken and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:33 PM
2

Why can women not communicate like adults? You are saying I have to trick her to get into the mood by touching and kissing her before I can ask? Where is the consent in that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:26 PM
5

Ok, I see. But 4 months is a bit late. Have you seen a 4 month old human fetus? Let's maybe make it 2.5 months. But great to hear that there are women who are not totally offended by this idea!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 02:40 PM
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If a man and a woman have sex and she "accidentally" gets pregnant, she can choose to abort the child. But if he does not want the child, he currently has no say in whether the child is aborted or not. There should in my opinion be a law that a man can legally renounce his consent to parenthood of a child up to 1 month after the intercourse and simply walk away by paying a fine that would cover the abortion and compensate the woman for the discomfort. If the woman still wants to have the child, …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:25 AM
2

Most men don't know how to do that. Why can't we just ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 08:15 AM
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Because women don't like men who only want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 12:04 AM
2

I have absolutely no standards. If you could see the girls I have tried to fuck, you would agree. I swipe right on more than 20 profiles a day, but randomly left and right to not get shadowbanned by tinder. And from these 1 match per week, which means a match rate of ~1/140 Most of them don't reply to my openers. Of the ones who do most ghost after only a short conversation. Less than 20% of my matches text for more than a few days. Less than 10% of my matches result in a date, after which I am …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 08:17 PM
1

What?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:59 PM
2

From my perspective and experience, the concept that "women want sex" seems like a fairy tale.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:58 PM
2

You have to realise that men and women experience the world in very different ways. You sometimes need to consider the male perspective. Of course you can get sex whenever you want, but for most men sex is a massive treat that they see as a reward for their hard work. Just like when you give a dog a treat for being a good boy many men expect a sex when they were a good boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:10 PM
1

Lots of men everywhere complain about the fact that their wife is almost never in the mood. You seem to be an exceptional girlfriend if your boyfriend is not sexually frustrated
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:44 PM
3

Most men in LTRs don't get sex when they ask their girlfriend or wife for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:41 PM
2

Most men in LTRs complain exactly about the fact that they can't get sex when they want. The girlfriend or wife is only in the mood once per month. That is why LTRs suck for most men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:41 PM
5

Well apparently she did not really like it, but at the same time refused to tell me what is wrong or how I could do better. I tried my best, but if she does not want to teach me, then I cant get better at it. I have the impression that women simply expect men to be sex gods, but refuse to teach men how to get better at sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:49 PM
12

That is messed up
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:34 PM
2

Yes, we complain because women don't want to have sex with us. I would love to learn how to pleasure a woman, but no woman wants to teach me. A while ago I was fingering a girl and I asked her several times to please explain to me how I should do it. I don't know how to do it and I need guidance from her, but she simply said nothing and after I asked her several times to please tell me what I should do she said I should stop. That is super frustrating. I want to get better at it and I want to pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:34 PM
2

Men are horny now. If they can't get sex, they have to masturbate, which is not fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:26 PM
10

Because escorts are either illegal or too expensive. And sex with escorts is usually miserable, because men can see how much she fakes it. You must understand that most men see sex as a reward. Men ask: "What do I need to do to get laid?" And then they will do whatever they are told, because they want to get laid. If you want to incentivice good behaviour in men, try rewarding it with sex and if he does not behave the way you want, you have to punish him by not giving him sex. You have an enormo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:20 PM
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Men see it as a massive reward if a woman gives him sex. It is the most significant gratification a woman can give to a man. Many men see sex as something transactional. I do something for her and she gives me sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:12 PM
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No, I am not trolling. You are literally saying that if you see me as husband material, you are going to withhold sex. But if you don't see me as husband material, you would consider sex on the first date. This means you reward men who don't treat you right. They are going to tell their friends that they just have to be an ashole if they want to get in her pants and then his friends are going to do the same, will get laid and tell the world that this actually works.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 01:57 PM
17

This means if I want to have sex with you, I need to treat you badly?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 01:50 PM
4

I don't and the guys I know also don't have female friends
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 11:26 AM
8

Yes. I don't have any female friends. Never had.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 11:26 AM
14

I don't know in which universe you live.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 11:17 AM
1

Who the fuck has something like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 11:16 AM
2

Ok, but where am I supposed to find desperate women? I seriously don't understand where they could be hiding or how I could find them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 10:59 AM
3

Wow dude, you are a giant. I am 5'8'' and girls have said to my face that I am not tall enough for her. Height is a massive advantage. In any crowd you literally stick out. You are the first one girls notice. Girls fantasize about being manhandled by a tall man and feeling tiny next to him. I am the sort of guy which most girls never consciously notice and therefore never consider.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 10:46 AM
3

I am actually active on online dating, but it is a painful grind. I swipe right on 50% of all profiles on Tinder, which is the maximum amount to not get shadow banned. I swipe right on obviously unnatractive profiles but get maximum of one match per week, just to get ghosted by her. I have managed to get laid through Tinder, but only 3 times in 3 years of active swiping.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 10:40 AM
3

I don't have any standards. Where do I find women who are interested in an average guy? There are no desperate women. Or at least I have in all of the 27 years of my life never figured out where the fuck I could find women who are desperate enough to be interested in me. I have never seen any despite searching for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 10:36 AM
2

No. But I try to socialise and am active on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 10:38 PM
9

Dude, simply being 6'4 makes you a frign CHad. You don't want to admit that you are a chad, but most men have it way worse. Most of your success with women comes from your height.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 10:32 PM
7

Most guys I know don't have any options. If any girl would show any interest, they would be all in, but that never happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 10:29 PM
3

Are you asking out every woman you encounter? Sure some men are not actively asking out women with which they might have a chance, but if I get absolutely no signals from her, I am not going to try. I can't approach all women without making an absolute clown out of myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 10:27 PM
2

But where do I find these options? If you would hold a gun to my head and tell me to get laid this month or else, I would not know what to do or where I should intensify my search. There are no desperate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 10:23 PM
10

I seriously struggle to believe there is something like the "Golden Penis Syndrome". Mabe the top hottest 1% of rich ripped frat boys experience that. But even the most attractive guys I know personally say that they struggle with dating. I currently study at a University that has a massive design and arts faculty, which is almost completely women. I have been on parties that were at least 2/3 women. But I have never been approached by any girls from my university and I have tried talking to gir…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 10:10 PM
1

I simply feel alone and miserable when I see couples in public. And a lot of activities are simply not that enjoyable when you do it alone. I like travelling and hiking and sightseeing, but doing that alone just feels wrong. There are so many things that I postpone doing because I always think it would be way nicer to do that together with a girl on my side, but that means I never do these things because there is no girl on my side and there won't be a girl on my side for a long time if things c…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 11:32 AM
1

I have never paid a girl for sex. But I have paid for dinner or stuff like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 05:13 AM
1

What?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 04:19 AM
1

But I want to have a few minutes of pumping with a girl that voluntarily does it with me. That's all I'm asking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 04:19 AM
2

I can't get any pussy despite trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 01:42 AM
-1

A woman does not need to do anything for men to enjoy sex. She just needs to be not obese and not too old.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 01:40 AM
0

The foreign invasions are already going on and have been for decades. The US takes in more than 1 Million immigrants every year and the EU takes in a similar amount every year. Mostly from fertile societies in the poorest regions of Africa and the Middle East. This means the societies in which almost nothing functions properly appart from the fact that their women are almost constantly pregnant will in the long run replace our highly developed but dysfunctional modern societies, both on a cultur…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 01:36 AM
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Hey, I am an incel and I am OK with being called an Incel
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 12:58 AM
19

I guess you are a woman? Because I can assure you it's the bottom 50%.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 01:35 PM
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It strongly depends on how much she knew me before the rejection and how much I was emotionally invested in her. If I just want to fuck her, it hurts and breaks my confidence for a while, but I can get over it. When I get rejected by a girl I have met before and who I like in a more meaningful way, then it is absolutely brutal. It is physically painful and it hurts in ways that go beyond the rational. I have had a few rejections in my life, where I had physical pain in my heart and breathing got…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 01:29 PM
21

That is the experience of most men on Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 01:15 PM
7

In my experience, most women have no clue what men actually want or expect from them and they have no clue how to attract a specific type of man because they are used to having an abundance of men interested in them at all times.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 11:14 AM
1

I'm 27. If there was an 18 year old girl that was interested in me, I would absolutely be interested in her.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 10:56 AM
1

He does not want to marry. He wants to have sex with young women. And that is what he gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 10:55 AM
1

Obviously they mean that he will be rich or powerful at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 11:39 PM
6

I have been trying for years to get a girlfriend. Wasted hundreds of hours on Tinder and went to almost a dozen of first dates over the past few years just to get ghosted and called "such a good friend" If you would hold a gun to my head and told me that I have to find a girlfriend in 1 month or I would be dead, I would probably not be able to do it. There are simply not enough desperate girls out there!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 08:21 PM
1

Same. My taste in women has not changed since I was 18, but now I can't really talk to 18 year old girls anymore because I am getting too old. I am sure there are lots of men >50 who still have the same taste. That is why there is so much porn with titles that call her a "teen"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 08:13 PM
2

A woman with little experience but high sex drive is the best possible combination.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 03:47 PM
6

Are you a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 07:52 PM
1

I wouldn't want to be her. But I am a man, so I can't relate to the female perspective anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 06:32 PM
2

Yes, but it was a great deal for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 06:26 PM
1

Why? He does not need money from her and she still has a fresh sexy and young body. I see this as a massive win for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 05:06 PM
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Men want youth and beauty in women. This means almost all men between ages of 20 to 50 like girls in their early 20ies. This means women enter the dating market and immediately hit their prime. In their early 20ies women are pursued by all men ages 20 to 30 and even older men. As she ages the range of men that are interested in her continuously shrinks. The hottest 35 year old men pursue 25 year old women and the hottest 45 year old men pursue 30 year old women and so on. When a woman hits 35 al…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 04:57 PM
2

Ever been too drunk?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 11:07 PM
1

I absolutely have not had much sex in all of my live. On average less than once per year. But its driving me crazy and when women blame me that I am only looking for sex, I don't understand what their problem is. Of course I am looking for sex. I have a sex drive that I have an urge to satisfy and only women can help me with that, but there is nothing else that I need from a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 12:53 AM
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Yes, you can't force anyone to have sex with someone they don't want to have sex with, but your question is hinting on a completely different problem that there are in fact many men who are so starved of affection and touch that they see suicide or rape as their only options.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 10:04 PM
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I would say they are portraying a fantasy world in which only a tiny minority of people actually live in, but of which everyone wants to be part of. I have studied at 4 different universities in 4 different countries and as I said never seen any evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 08:48 PM
2

Damn, but at least they are doing an excellent job at keeping everything secret. Never seen any evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 07:27 PM
1

And what is that news?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 07:21 PM
1

Don't understand that either. I've now been at University for 8 years and I was never invited to one of these parties. I heard rumors of there being sluts somewhere, but I have never seen any evidence for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 07:20 PM
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I would not even be allowed to take the course.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 07:14 PM
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The reason why I mainly want sex from women is because I have a sex drive that I cannot just ignore. Masturbating is simply not enough after many years and I am not gay. Women are the only people who can give me sex and I want sex at least every other day. Otherwise I get moody and aggressive until I masturbate. But there is very little reason for me to talk to women appart from sex, because I simply cannot relate to them. They experience the world in such a vastly different way, that most of my…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 04:49 PM
1

Sorry typo. I'm 173cm which is 5'8. Had to look it up again, because we don't use feet and inch over here
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 11:16 AM
7

Women want men with a career and stable income
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 11:13 AM
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Dude, your profile says 6'4 Puerto Rican with green eyes . Like what the actual fuck? What you experience with women has absolutely nothing common with what normal men experience. You cannot possibly have any idea what life is like as a 5'8 incel in Finland. You are one of those 1% guys who can have sex whenever they want. Do you understand that that is absolutely not the case for 99% of all men?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 12:50 AM
2

Are you a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 12:39 AM
4

You are delusional. This is not how any of this works for average looking man. A Leonardo Di Caprio can pull of stuff like that, but not men who look like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 12:38 AM
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I just came back from a 1 week holiday where I did not even once look at a computer and I went to many restaurants and bars during that week, but I did not have even one conversation with a woman my age, if you don't count service personnel like waitresses, because nowadays it is impossible to get into contact with women in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 12:34 AM
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Most men I know go for years without even managing to get even one date. I have 6 guy friends. All of them are at least somewhat successful STEM graduates and between 25 and 27. 1/3 of them have been in the same relationship for the past 8 years. 1/3 are single and struggling to get any dates and the remaining two are virgins at the age of 26. I am in the category of not virgin, but considering myself an incel at age 27 with a postgraduate degree in space technology.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 12:32 AM
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But how the fuck do I even find women that want to be approached and are not angry about being talked to? Most women nowadays claim they are getting harassed if you try to talk to them anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 12:26 AM
9

This reminds me of a guy I knew at University. He was 22 but told everyone that he has had more than 100 hookups with different women so far. I once told him how depressing my experiences with Tinder were and he just said that he has never used Tinder. He simply goes to the next bar and asks random girls if they are down to fuck and it works because he is a hot guy. He does not have to use Tinder to get laid when he wants to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 12:24 AM
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In most STEM subjects women are still a tiny minority and even amongst recent STEM graduates men outnumber women by 4:1 up to 20:1 depending on country and subject. Therefore I call absolutely bulshit on the argument that "women can't find men of equivalent education". I am a recent physics graduate and I think that is the main reason why I am an incel appart from my height.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 12:20 AM
1

7cm is noticeable. Of my 6 guy friends I am the shortest. If other men are standing next to me I am usually the shortest.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 09:36 PM
1

Average here is 180cm
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 07:57 PM
1

I'm a man and I can assure you that ugly female faces are quite rare. Of the 60 girls that were in my high school year only 2 or maybe 3 had faces that I would describe as unnatractive. Most were really alright and 1/3 I would describe as outstandingly cute or hot. I don't understand why so many women are so insecure about their face when most men are perfectly fine with the faces of >90% of women. This means you can almost always assume that your face is at least good enough. Women only find 20…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 11:33 AM
4

In my limited experience of dating as an unnatractive man, I noticed: Audacity wins! Obviously not to the point of harrasment, but just asking a girl in a club if she is a model or casually mentioning on a date that you always carry condoms got me absolutely surprising results. Or just telling your girl that you are also seeing another one can make them go crazy for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 10:34 PM
2

I sympathise with MGTOW because of the realisation that all women behave a certain way and because marriage is rigged against men. It is absolutely NOT about a specific individual woman that hurt us. I am not surprised that a woman would not understand MGTOW and get this totally wrong impression, but that is absolutely not what MGTOW is about
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 05:01 AM
0

The top 1% of men are picky simply because they can afford to be picky. All other men fuck whatever they can get their hands on.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 12:01 AM
2

I am currently 27 years old and as I said girls told to my face that I am not tall enough
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 12:42 AM
4

Wow, under 5'10? Are you sure? I have had girls say to my face that I am not tall enough to be her girlfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 04:06 PM
6

Surgery to change your height is possible but extremely stupid. The average man cannot change his hight in any meaningful way
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 04:05 PM
6

Being short? Are you sure? The vast majority of women go absolutely crazy about tall men and are disgusted by short men. I am 1.73m and have been treated harshly be women just because I am not tall enough
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 04:04 PM
1

Should I have said no to a girl after I had been starved of touch for years? Between those hookups were more than a year each with me being completely alone in between. I was so starved of attention and touch that it was impossible to say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 10:53 AM
1

I really don't have standards. On Tinder and Bumble I swipe right more than 3/4 and in real life I am probably even less picky
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 10:47 AM
1

They did not want to see me again. It was not my decision to only see them once.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 10:45 AM
9

That were a hand full of individuals who had that. Most men in Rome had no wife of girlfriend and had to pay prostitutes in order to get any intimacy at all. Roman soldiers often did not have girlfriends until they retired from the army after 25 years of service, if they survived that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 05:14 AM
3

But how do I find out what exactly is the problem? I am totally oblivious to what exactly these women don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 01:06 AM
1

I don't know. Maybe I am just ugly and autistic
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 01:04 AM
1

Women say that 99% of all men are boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 01:03 AM
0

But how can I find out what I am doing wrong? I am seriously completely oblivious about what I am doing wrong. I think I am just ugly and these women have absurdly high standards that I cannot possibly meet. But I seriously have no idea what I am doing wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 01:03 AM
2

What are my standards? What are you talking about??? I don't have any standards. If any ugly obese woman w would show any interest in me, I would be happy, but that never happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 01:00 AM
1

My success rate is not high. I managed approx one date per quarter and getting laid once per year on average over the past 5 years. Despite trying every day. I would not consider that to be successful
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 12:55 AM
5

Thanks, I'll hit the gym as soon Covid allows and until then I will hopefully have finished my thesis and get a decent job to start stacking some cash.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 06:08 PM
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Why? Do you really want with picky women who will insist that she is a catch while all men are trash?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 06:04 PM
5

When you say that men held all the cards you are actually saying the attractive extroverted dominant men that you experienced in your youth had all the cards. You probably never saw the desperate lonely guys. Most women don't have a clue how many desperate lonely guys there are out there, because the only men you talk to in your life are successful men. It's a common paradox that the people you know are on average more popular than yourself. Following from that the men you know as a woman are ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 06:02 PM
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Thanks for the advice! I still have not given up. My hope is that once the first women my age hop off the cock carousel and get desperate looking for a stable guy, they might give me a chance. That is very far from the Disney fairy tale, but at least at some point I might get a decent wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 05:58 PM
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I don't care about what the woman looks like. I don't have any standards in that regard appart from that I would prefer her to NOT be MORBIDLY obese. A bit chunky is fine, but please no girl that needs a crane to get up from her bed. I am currently writing my masters thesis in space science and technology, which means I have an academic career and I have already done 4 years abroad in different student exchanges and internships abroad in several different countries. I am 173cm and 70kg, which me…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 05:39 PM
40

I wanted to get a girlfriend at 14 years old and have tried many times. Now I am 27 and still don't have a girlfriend despite trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 05:18 PM
1

I've been with 6 women so far, but still consider myself an incel, because there were gaps of more than a year between most of them and 4 of them I only saw once. 2 only a few times. Am I promiscuous? Even though I have sex less than once per year on average?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 04:19 PM
2

I'm an incel
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 12:21 PM
2

I would hook up with a very unnatractive girl, if she would treat me OK, but there are not nearly enough desperate girls out there even the women at r/foreverAloneWomen have unrealistic standards and prefer to be alone instead of dating men like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 10:16 AM
1

In Finland public transport is developed, which means I can take the subway or bus and soon a light rail, but I don't have to, because I can walk to work and to most grocery stores in my area, or if I want to go to a larger store I take my bicycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 10:06 AM
1

I don't have a car even though I am a 27 year old living in Finland
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 10:40 PM
8

Women only worship the top few percent of men. For the vast majority of men this completely impossible. There are not nearly enough desperate women out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 03:37 PM
1

Strange. I typed in "Blackpill Man" and that is what it shows in my app
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 01:35 PM
1

Did not know about that. Thanks! Does it now show correctly as Blackpill man now?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 01:24 PM
1

There is no blackpill flair, so I took the next best one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 01:03 PM
1

The we should not call these people incels, but what they actually are. Mentally ill assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 10:20 AM
3

I don't live in the US of A. And I wrote "not morbidly obese" I really don't mind a bit of chunkyness and am a fan of big soft tiddies, but as soon as the fat severely limits her mobility and has significant negative health effects then I have to pass, because I am a lean 70kg guy and like to walk and cycle everywhere and love hiking. If she can't do any of that, then I just don't see a future.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 10:13 AM
2

What does outdated fashion mean? I have no clue.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 11:18 PM
8

The problem is my standards are already so low that I don't know how I could reduce them even further. - female - has to be able to pass as female in public. - Not morbidly obese - 20 to 30 years old. - no current infectious diseases - has to speak at least some English or German - female genitals. Bonus points for: no piercings or tatoos Which one of these standards do I have to lower to get laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 11:15 PM
6

I'm an incel and almost every time I mention it online I get hatefull comments from women. Some women tell me I should kill myself. Some women tell me I deserve to be an incel and so on. Usually the blind hate comes from women. Not from men. Women are so full of hate and disgust towards unnatractive men that they see the embodyment of evil in you as soon as you admit that you are an incel. Insulting an incel is like kicking someone in the face because he fell over and can't get up, but women don…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 09:40 PM
1

I simply have no idea what I could do to improve my looks. What do women want?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:04 PM
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I'm an incel and I don't understand why some men post shit like that. They are mentally ill. That has nothing to do with simply being unable to get laid anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:10 PM
2

That would completely destroy my savings rate. But so would a marriage...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:07 PM
8

Sex workers are expensive and illegal in many countries. I can't afford that even though it is legal in my country. It would maybe be an option to book a hour every other week, but not much more.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:46 PM
0

Women are the gatekeeper of sex and men the gatekeeper of commitment. For men getting laid is almost as difficult as getting into a relationship. While for women it is super easy to get laid but difficult to get a man to commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:15 PM
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We are obsessed with it because it means it is over for most of us. Imagine being a man wondering if you will ever get laid again and then reading that. It is truly terrifying for us because it means there is not much hope left no matter how hard we try.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:29 PM
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What are you talking about? For most men it is very difficult to get casual sex from any women. For a significant amount of men the only way to get sex is to pay for it. That is why prostitution is such a huge business. Because many men don't have any other options. I have now been active on Tinder for more than 3 years and the last time I got laid was 1.5 years ago despite trying almost every day. And that is totally normal. Allmost all of my guy friends have the same problem. Only the 6'4 musc…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 12:48 PM
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I don't want a girl that fucks like a porn star. I absolutely prefer to discover her body together with her and I hate kinky stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 12:41 PM
2

I am generally terrible at remembering names, but I wrote down the names of all the women that were willing to sleep with me so far and I know all of their names by heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:21 PM
7

You mean the blackpill
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 01:09 AM
5

What you describe is the blackpill
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 01:08 AM
10

That is why the Black pill community exists
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 01:07 AM
4

Have you never heard of the blackpill? That is exactly what you are describing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 01:06 AM
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I strongly disagree. The skin of a 20 year old is usually significantly nicer than of a 29 year old. After 18 years tits start to sag and the skinn starts to stretch. Peak firm tits only exist below age 20. Same for innies. They noticeably get less nice with time. There is a strong reason why porn actresses usually get discovered before they reach 20 and make their most popular content early, while their later career purely relies on their early fame. Most porn actress careers end after only 2 o…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 01:35 PM
2

How do you arrive at that number? Almost everyone here agrees that an early 20s girl is more attractive than a late 20ies girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 08:57 AM
1

Ok, then how do you manage to get laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 08:15 AM
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I have had a picture of me in front of the Antimatter factory at CERN with the sign next to me as a profile picture on Tinder for 3 years now and I have never, not even once gotten any comment or question about this picture. I even asked some of my matches if they know what it is and they were actively desinteressted.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 10:19 PM
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I can attest that studying physics has definitely been one of the reasons for my terrible dating experience. There are almost no women at all in my field and when I try to talk to women from outside my field and tell them that I study physics, they immediately lose interest. In my experience the most effective way of getting rid of girls is trying to flirt in a nerdy way with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 10:14 PM
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What field are you in? I am studying physics and I know several 27 year old virgin incels. Almost all of my friends in their late 20ies are single men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 10:10 PM
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I participated in 2 international summer schools which each lasting at least 2 months but I was still a virgin afterwards even though I really tried to get laid. That was because these were Physics summer schools at DESY and CERN where few girls are surrounded by lots of incels. I talked to one girl and she admitted that she fucked several different guys during that time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 10:08 PM
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I'm definitely on the side of prefer to gmbe given a chance, because for me it is usually several months between dates because I can't find women who show any interest in me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 05:17 AM
4

That is not that easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 05:14 AM
1

How the fuck could I meet girls in real life?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 01:19 AM
1

That is nice, but I would definitely be interested if a girl would message me
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 10:40 PM
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I get ghosted by more than 95% of my matches on Tinder and Bumble, but also by women I met in real life. It happens all the time and it hurts every time, but I kind of got so used to it, that I just expect it, even though I would never do that myself. If a woman wants to get back in touch with me and responds after several months of nothing I always reply again.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 10:31 PM
1

But that is exactly the definition of ghosting. Ghosting is if you completely and suddenly stop replying to texts. Does this mean you ghost men regularly?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 10:23 PM
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What the fuck. I never ghost. But I usually follow the rule of thumb that if she did not reply to the last 3 messages I sent, then there is no point in sending another one. And I have heard that other guys follow the same rule. So if a guy has sent you three messages each more than an hour apart and you did not reply, then he thinks you are ghosting him and he will not try a 4th time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 10:11 PM
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Yes, but I only spend like 20 minutes per day on dating apps. I have friends but they live in my home country and I live abroad. I am considering trying to pay for an escort, but currently I can't afford it. And I am not really comfortable with the thought of getting a mail order bride. Having a wife that absolutely hates me and is counting the days until she can leave me might only be slightly better than having nothing at all. And I get on average one like/match per week, which means I am abso…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 08:35 PM
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Yes, I sometimes for example on Christmas fly home to meet my parents and tomorrow I am going to visit 2 of my friends. I would like to come back home, but there are no jobs for which I would be qualified. And making new friends is very difficult right now because of Covid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 08:30 PM
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I don't even manage to get friend zoned. So I don't have any female friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 04:52 PM
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I guess I am such a guy. I have managed to get laid before, but only a hand full of times over the span of a decade and even though I always asked to meet her again I usually get ghosted. This means on average I am completely alone 364 evenings in a normal yerar. I just don't get any. That's all. I live my single lonely live and have like 4 or 5 male friends and a good relation with my parents, but I live abroad and on 99% of evenings I just sit alone in my room and swipe on Tinder or Bumble, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 04:42 PM
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I've lived in 6 different countries so far, but when I tell that to girls they couldn't care less. Where are you from by the way?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 11:32 AM
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Hopefully this year I will get a job and start getting some cash. And I have never been able to get laid in Germany ever. The only action I ever got was when I was abroad and there also only with obese girls or girls from 3rd world countries. German girls take hypergamy to the absolute next level. All of them think they are some kind of super model and deserve to be taken out to a yacht and will only show sexual interest if you are at least 180cm at the minimum. If you are below 180cm in Germany…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 11:25 AM
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He is not talking about a normal hot guy. He is talking about the 1 in 10.000 Giga Chad men who have fucked over a 1000 women by age 30
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 11:21 AM
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I am seriously considering paying for it, but I can't because I am a broke student. I consider myself redpil because I gave up on the concept of love or genuine attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 11:18 AM
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I'm probably a bit autistic. No, I don't have any female friends and due to the field in which I study I almost never get a chance to talk to women at all. The biggest hurdle is probably my height and the fact that I don't know any girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 11:17 AM
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I am from the countryside, but have lived in several different places over the past few years including student exchange and studying abroad in several different European countries. In my field of study there are almost no women at all and the few we have are totally annoyed by thirsty nerds. This year I was studying on a campus surrounded by about 10k students at a university with a large arts and design department in which there are thousands of girls, but I still did not manage to get laid ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 10:10 AM
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Women prefer to be pumped and dumped by Chad over commiting to a guy who would actually be faithful to her. That is the only reason why monogamy is on the decline. Women choose to hook up with hot men who are actively spinning other plates while most men can't get laid at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:43 AM
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Germany and I am currently writing my masters thesis about radiation shielding for satellites
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:40 AM
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What the fuck. I'm 5'8 and haven't had sex in more than 1,5 years and before that I also got some action maybe once per year.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:32 AM
1

How tall are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:28 AM
2

All men want to have sex left and right, but most men are unable to attract women. I want to have sex all the time, but this year I have not managed to get laid even once.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:27 AM
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On Tinder have a picture of me standing in front of the Antimatter factory at CERN in Geneva where I did a one year internship. I have had this picture in my profile for full 3 years and I have never gotten a comment or question about it in all of these 3 years despite roughly 100 Matches. Girls simply do not care even the slightest about intelligence or education. They care about your height and and then your face and physical fitness and then your valet and social status.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 07:01 PM
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Yes, men are mainly attracted by youth, and cues of fertility and health like symmetry and flawless skinn, not overweight but round hips and boobs etc.. , but not to her status or wealth or achievements. That is something that might make it worth pursuing her when thinking rationally about her, but instinctively men go for the young and fertile cute chick first regardless of their own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 05:24 AM
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This post only shows that women lack emotional depth
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 10:00 PM
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I remember in 4th grade several girls in my class suddenly made quite inappropriate jokes about the fact that they don't have dicks and stuff like that and one girl even mentioned in front of me that she had touched the hooha of another girl. In 4th grade! I only developed sexual thoughts in 6th grade when I had figured out how to masturbate. But I remember one girl in 5th grade who quite obviously was flirting with me. Similarly one in 7th grade, but since then girls stopped giving me attention…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 04:29 PM
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Yes, I absolutely hate the fact that I always have to take the lead, but that is simply what is expected from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 12:01 PM
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Nope. All my grandparents are from the same region in which I grew up. Rural southern Germany.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 05:36 PM
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Holy shit, so you are a Chad or what? Why the fuck would any man refuse to fuck a virgin? I always dreamt of having my first time with a virgin, but because I couldn't find one until I was 24 I gave up and tried it with an experienced girl and I regret it. She did not care at all and just wanted to get over with. She actively made me feel miserable about being inexperienced. It was nothing special for her and she ghosted me afterwards. Terrible experience. Since then I still would prefer to date…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 06:52 AM
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Damn I always dreamt of being with a virgin. I found sex with very experienced women a bad experience because it felt anonymous and like its absolutely nothing special for her. That ruins it for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 06:46 AM
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I grew up in the west and wanting a virgin always seemed like the default for western culture to me. There is a lot of sex and shit in the media, but only because that is what sells
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 06:43 AM
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I would also prefer a relationship with a girl with a low notch count and always dreamt about my first time being with a virgin, but so far I only have been able to get laid with very promiscuous women. One even was a former prostitute as I found out afterwards. I regret it, but as an average man it is impossible to find a virgin that wants to have sex with me and that is why I gave up and sex with every girl that I managed to convince to have sex with me, which was 5 times so far at age 27
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 06:39 AM
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WTF You are a woman? How is that supposed to work? Your reqire experience, but are not willing to give experience? That is like the entry level jobs that require 3 years of work experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 05:50 PM
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Thanks. Corrected it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 02:36 PM
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Then can you please edit your post to have the correct word? It took me several seconds to figure out why you are talking about floors and not flaws
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 02:28 PM
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That were 3 cases spread over several years. I guess these girls were just to drunk to see how unnatractive I am and regreted it the next morning. One literally told me that it was a huge mistake and that she does not want to see me again. When I asked her why she had already blocked me. Whe I encounter women I often have the feeling they are disgusted by me. Like they actively avoid eye contact. They turn away when I walk past them etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 10:39 PM
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The men that you know are almost certainly above average men, because below average men don't know women. This means you don't know what an average man is like. You only interact with above average men. I am a man and almost all of the men in my social circle struggle extremely with women. Several of them are 25 year old virgins. They would absolutely commit if they could get a chance with a girl, but that never happens. I have had 3 hookups so far and every time I asked the girl for a date when…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 06:04 PM
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Seems like you were an absolute Chad. I struggle to get laid even once per year
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 03:19 PM
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As a man myself I absolutely love tits and when I search for porn I usually just search for "big boobs" or "massive tits" or something like that and I don't mind a bit of chubbyness if that means she has some great mommy milkers, but I know friends who told me that they were turned of by even slightly chubby women because they thought they were simply too much. This means that the spectrum of what men find attractive is very wide and there are plenty of men who absolutely prefer flat chested ski…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 06:59 AM
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Well that is the only kind of women I get any attention from. I don't know how to get a chance with other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 10:56 PM
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Who the fuck gives that advice? I am a man and I get angry when I see a man with a much younger woman. If any of my friends would date a much younger woman I would be very vocal against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 10:20 PM
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I am currently writing my masters thesis and I have absolutely no requirement for a potential partner. I would prefer if she was somewhat educated in science and technology and able to have intellectual conversations, but if she has no income and no savings that would be perfectly fine for me. If she has a huge load of debt, that she expects me to pay off for her, that would be a major red flag and No Go
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 06:46 PM
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They would probably like it. I would be absolutely thrilled to be approached by a girl, but I am not in the top 10
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 06:21 PM
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Most men would absolutely love to be approached by a girl, but it never happens. While the top one percent of men who are actually getting approached don't like it, because they get approached all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 06:06 PM
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What? I would be absolutely thrilled if a girl would talk to me. But it never happens. The kind of men who are annoyed by girls approaching them are the 11/10 Giga-Chads but there you don't have any chance anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 06:05 PM
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Why? I would be absolutely thrilled if I were to be approached by a girl. The last time that happened to me was several years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 06:03 PM
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In my experience as a man, women were always disappointed when I told them that I am not experienced at all. I have had a few ONS so far, but nothing long term, so my body count is 5 but I have barely any experience at all. They did not care about my body count, but really did not like the fact that I am not experienced. From that I would conclude that women prefer experienced men and don't care about body counts in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:56 PM
1

You realise that in Afghanistan polygamy is wide spread with leaders and rich old men having harems while most young men have absolutely no hope of ever getting laid and therefore have no motivation to do anything and just smoke hashish until they are blown up by a land mine while some of the more ambitious men emigrate to Europe to rape White girls there.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 01:24 PM
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Men date down while women date up. That is how it works. And if he thinks he is doing these women a favour for being with them, then he is delusional beyond help, because women are in constant doubt if the man they currently have is really the best they can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 01:15 PM
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How the fuck do you do that ???
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 01:12 PM
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? Then why do so many hot young girls date guys that are several years older? Just a while ago a 22 year old girl I went on a date with told me that she had amazing sex with a 30 year old guy on the weekend before. I noped out of there, because she was obviously sleeping around too much, but she would not have done that if men would actually "hit the wall much faster than women" A lot of girls I met even told me that they would never date a guy who is younger than them.
/r/RedPillWives25/11/20 10:33 AM
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The reason why men prefer 20 year old girls instead of 30 year old women is purely instinct. The instinct developed because young women are more fertile, but nowadays men are simply attracted to youth regardless if they want children or not. Your peak dating market value is therefore before 25. If you want to get the highest value man possible, you should lock him down before 25, because afterwards your fading looks will make it harder as time goes on. "Hitting the wall" means that most men are …
/r/RedPillWives25/11/20 10:29 AM
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