Men self worth is tied to women because that's the purpose of our existence or we wouldn't exist its the mind telling the men to do anything in their power to dominate and reproduce even at the cost of their lives Men never settle the desirable get what they want and the ugly ones can't be settling because they don't have the choice to get the first one anyways it's the women who settle
Honestly this whole debate was the result of my lacking grammar and articulation of thoughts which are correct I just cant convey them yet if I insulted you I apologize for calling you dumb it's clear to me now that my articulation is the problem and not the correctness of my thoughts
Likewise but you are the one lacking not trying to offend you you just lack the knowledge what women find desirable and the deductions that follow it that's why you struggle to understand most things I say
Women like pretty boys go around and see how many of them are if they aren't they are ugly it's simple as that . They rate men lower because they find them ugly what do you think they are discriminating against they are not being selective for the sake of it I am tired talking to you since you struggle with common sense
Answer me this tomorrow all men wake up looking like Leo Dicaprio what happens do women go for the top men ? What if 90 percent wake up do they still go for the top ?
Men are less attractive countless dating sites data show this if they weren't they wouldn't be complaining about being an incel also average means nothing you are either a pretty boy or ugly it's pretty obvious you have no clue what the female gaze is
I just explained what I meant i explained to you the reality that them being selective is just an illusion when you make a claim that they are more selective than it means if means if they had they same options as men they would behave differently which they wouldn't like I demonstrated countless times in this thread
I am not even affected by your condensation so you are just wasting your time I said men and women are equally selective and women being picky is just an illusion with 80% of men were born with pretty boy looks women wouldn't discriminate in the same man don't do because majority of women are born with attractive features
What are you feeling bad about ? It's not like i lack awareness at my intelligence you gave me a definition of selection that I already know prove me then how attractiveness is subjective
The studies that show that some cultures like fat women those women in those studies are thinner than you average American women so no attraction is not cultural or subjective
Well you called me dumb for my grammar which I admitted but when I called you dumb you said I have no place to speak when you cant even comprehend basic logic
You are exhausting I already know that definition I am just saying that the brains perceive attractiveness the same way I don't know how else to say you get i am talking in hypotheticals an analogy would be that both black and white men find white chick's attractive because black men in Africa see no white chick's doesn't mean their brains don't have the same function
I offered you a different perspective on selection i already know your definition you are the one that struggles not since you are unable to offer anything to debunk it
Men don't need to be drunk go down below I don't know why you think I said that they don't go i simply said they don't have sex with repulsive women at least not the top men maybe the bottom 1% but then that doesn't going below because you can't get anything above it
I am not misunderstanding you guys are the ones who lack intelligence what I am says is this women's and men's brains select the same way if tomorrow 80% of women turned ugly they would be behaving the same way as women there would be no change is their DNA or evolved if the opposite happen 80 % became attractive women would behave like men not completely because of 9 months pregnancy that is not sleeping with multiple men but monogamous
You also conflating statements you are saying that me not getting a nine which the ideal man in you argument will make feel but when I get the less ideal man which let's say is 7 and then trying to pass it as I will be settled by an undesirable that I have no attraction if a desirable men has no options he is definitionaly not desirable so if other women are not attracted I won't either
There are as many incels as cat ladies in dont know why singled out women also women lower they standers within the boundaries of what is attractive if they can get a 9 they for a 7 until they reach the limit where below that they find them physically repulsive
Going from a 9 to a 6 is still having sex with an attractive women but no one would have sex or get a boner for a 2 because there is hierarchy among attractive faces doesn't mean an ugly face will be attractive that's what I mean they are set in stone
No women wants a guy with 500k it's the ideal but they don't really believe and are fine with a handsome men with a decent salary men's wealth does nothing for attraction it is a meaningless quality
Women are not selective they just don't find most men attractive in other words it's men's physical features from birth right that determine if they succeed or not
Desperation comes from lack of positive attention from women its not a deliberate attempt by women to date ugly men so they keep them on the hook it's just out of circumstances not a masterplan by feminists
Male validation is not worthe much since it is easily obtainable from the men who are not attractive it does nothing to their ego actually women know this and have bigger egos
We have different definitions of chase here by chase I mean asking them out on a date that's it and see if they reciprocate not spend millions on a woman that doesn't like you then I agree
If an attractive guy is nice he is met with praise for being a decent human being like the rest but if he is ugly he is met with mockery for doing the bare minimum or being manipulative to gain sex
