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| 15 | TRP as a data source and a mindset is actually hurting the general interests of men as a whole | Debate | EntropyMaximizer | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/17 07:23 AM |
| 13 | TRP as a data source and a mindset is actually hurting the general interests of men as a whole | Social Issues | EntropyMaximizer | /r/MensRights | 18/11/17 04:50 PM |
| 5 | "Men’s rights will never take off for the following reasons:" - (overcoming bias, 2009) | Anti-MRM | EntropyMaximizer | /r/MensRights | 25/03/20 02:07 PM |
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| 34 | Do you think dating would be easier if women had a higher sexdrive/ men had a lower sexdrive?Obviously the anwser is yes, to all the people who write "they will just fuck chad more". First of all chad can't fuck 10 girls a day + he'll also have a lower sex drive (as in what op assumes). So by the simple law of supply and demand dating will be much easier for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/19 12:49 PM |
| 5 | The amount of guys complaining about not getting laid, without doing anything to better themselves, is too high.The ability to self improve doesn't rely only on motivation, if you have low intellegence and low conscientiousness (both are born traits) you will have a rough time with self improving. If you start from a low enough point (let's say bottom 10%) even if you manage to self improve to become only bottom 30% (which is quite amazing) it might not be worth the effort because you still not going to get laid as a man. Many of the most important traits are impossible to improve, stuff like height, inte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/19 07:47 AM |
| 10 | The amount of guys complaining about not getting laid, without doing anything to better themselves, is too high.Dating a zero sum game, if everyone would improve themself everyone will still have the same amount of sex. (meaning top 20% will still get almost all the sex). Improving yourself is not a scalable solution. That's my biggest issue with trp and it amazes me people can't understand this basic argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/19 06:37 AM |
| 1 | TRP as a data source and a mindset is actually hurting the general interests of men as a wholeIt's really the guys in the middle of the SMP that get massively screwed... yeah that's a good point that I should have written in the post. A lot of the people who replied said "Yeah but not everyone will self-improve like trp preaches" completely missing the point that even if part of the people will do it it would still increase the level of competition for everyone. That being said, if your idea of a good time is stimulating conversation about politics and a good game of chess, you're not th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/17 03:28 PM |
| 1 | TRP as a data source and a mindset is actually hurting the general interests of men as a wholeI think the best metaphor to clear my intent would be cutting in lines. For the person who cuts in line it's completely rational, but when enough people start doing it society suffers. So yeah, I don't hate the player - I hate the game. And the TRP preaches to play it. It teaches people how to cut in lines more effectively. If you don't care about other people or the society you definitely shouldn't care about this post. but in the medium range, you'll get hurt from these dynamics as well becaus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/17 03:17 PM |
| 1 | TRP as a data source and a mindset is actually hurting the general interests of men as a wholeThat conclusion assumes: * all men follow TRP No, it's not, you don't need for everyone to cut in lines for things to become worse. Same for the other things you wrote, these assumptions are unnecessary for this argument to be valid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/17 04:35 PM |
| 1 | TRP as a data source and a mindset is actually hurting the general interests of men as a wholeThere is. It builds inner confidence and enhances ones ability to interact positively with others. You can interact positively with women without being good at flirting or game. like using the stuff that dale carenge teaches, social skills != game. "Fashion sense" ≠ spending money/time on clothes in a competition with other men. The idea is that you consider your appearance and the impression that it creates in others and develop a style of your own that helps you engender the types of impressio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/17 04:30 PM |
| 1 | TRP as a data source and a mindset is actually hurting the general interests of men as a wholeIt's not possible to be confident in all areas, No one is good at everything. It's an unrealistic expectation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/17 04:03 PM |
| 2 | TRP as a data source and a mindset is actually hurting the general interests of men as a wholeThat's fair enough, You can replace good for society with good for you and the point will still be valid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/17 04:02 PM |
| 1 | TRP as a data source and a mindset is actually hurting the general interests of men as a wholeI pretty much agree with all that you wrote, And I do think my post is more related to Red Pill Vs MRA than PurplePill per se, because I do agree with pretty much everything RP says in terms of theory (Maybe besides the dream that they sell that every man can be alpha by self-improvement. As taboo as it is I do have to agree with the incels that some of the cases are beyond repair, The redpill is for beta males and not for omega males. I hope that the Purple Pill memebers are tolerant enough to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/17 04:00 PM |
| 2 | TRP as a data source and a mindset is actually hurting the general interests of men as a wholeYou know that the US is not the only country in the world right? Where I come from only a pretty small percentage of young men are obese and around 30% of the people in my social circle lift or do some physical activity. Besides that, The US also has a huge number of obese women, so it kinda balances out. The smaller % percentage of non-overweight men compete for the smaller % of non-overweight women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/17 03:45 PM |
| 2 | TRP as a data source and a mindset is actually hurting the general interests of men as a wholebecause you can interact with women without stress and generate fun. you shouldn't have any confidence issues unless you're interested sexually. For example, you can be very socially liked as a beta nice guyTM and have very good friendly connections with women. But lack the confidence to make it sexual. eventually, the only advantage of being confident with women is about being more attractive to them. The confidence for itself doesn't have any value for you or for society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/17 03:34 PM |
| 2 | TRP as a data source and a mindset is actually hurting the general interests of men as a wholeOscar wilde... Evo psych... You name it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/17 03:06 PM |
| 3 | TRP as a data source and a mindset is actually hurting the general interests of men as a wholeYou can be confident generally but not with women, the archetype would be the programmer which is actually very dominant in his workplace but shy with girls. Confidence with girls makes you happy because you get girls, It's a circular thing - The confidence with girls by itself doesn't have any value. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/17 02:50 PM |
| 2 | TRP as a data source and a mindset is actually hurting the general interests of men as a wholestart de-pedestalizing women and understanding the true value of sex (which turns out to be very close to zero) "everything in life is about sex...." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/17 02:43 PM |
| 1 | TRP as a data source and a mindset is actually hurting the general interests of men as a whole1- The idea of TRP is not to improve society, it's to improve the chances of the individual. MRAs are interested in society. Fair enough, I'm just saying that while TRP would definitely help men that will incorporate it - It will hurt men in a general sense and I think it's an important criticism that should be made. Just like a culture of cutting in lines would help people who would do it but I would make society a worst place. 2- The amount of sex is not static. More attractive men out there d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/17 02:41 PM |
| 1 | TRP as a data source and a mindset is actually hurting the general interests of men as a wholeThis point was already answered, not everyone has to compete to make competition harder on average. And because most of the sex is in the top 20% area, Even if only the top 30% compete harder the arms race will be very detrimental. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/17 02:32 PM |
| 1 | TRP as a data source and a mindset is actually hurting the general interests of men as a wholeYou think I am straw manning it on purpose? I don't know, but it's either that or that you didn't bother to actually read and understand what I've written before commenting. You've replaced your argument completely from: "You claim there is no point in competing like the incels" to "people aren't really rational" without batting an eye. That at least to me shows you're not really into having a productive discussion. And I'm not really interested in having a mud throwing contest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/17 09:39 AM |
| 1 | TRP as a data source and a mindset is actually hurting the general interests of men as a wholeWell, my basic argument is that self-improvement for your own good is different than self-improving to become more attractive. TRP mixes them both together while obviously, they don't always correlate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/17 09:26 AM |
| 1 | TRP as a data source and a mindset is actually hurting the general interests of men as a wholeYou made a perfect lookism defeatist post. Why even try? I'm not sure if you really don't understand my argument or just strawman it on purpose. I've explicitly written in my post that competing is the rational thing to do. But as game theory shows, in a lot of situations, it could happen that while all the players make rational choices the final result is detrimental to everyone. That's what pretty much the entire conservative-pro-patriarchy wing of the red pill claims for years (Marriage fixes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/17 09:21 AM |
| 1 | TRP as a data source and a mindset is actually hurting the general interests of men as a wholeWhat things are inherently good? What is a "better" person and what makes one better? Just to make things simpler: If it brings you happiness or contributes to society than it's inherently good. If it's something you do only to compete (signaling) for higher status and it doesn't bring real value to anyone else it's not inherently good. Finally another thing you haven't considered is what if there is a cut off of attractiveness that women won't engage with? Your assuming that women would be attr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/17 08:59 AM |
| 4 | TRP as a data source and a mindset is actually hurting the general interests of men as a wholeDoes being a 2-3/10 stop you from getting an 8? Yes. Does it stop you from dating? No. I didn't say it stops you from dating, I said it stops you from being top 20% as you suggested in your previous comment. This is an obvious strawman. Also this whole post reeks on incels lookism tuned down for PPD. If you really believe this, why even come on here and debate with people. Go back into your hole. This is bad mannered and uncalled for and I hope would be cleared by the mods. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/17 08:45 AM |
| 4 | TRP as a data source and a mindset is actually hurting the general interests of men as a wholeNo it does. Most men are fucking slobs. When you start competing consistently, you are already close to being top 20%. I would disagree with this, Genetics and your life circumstances have a huge part there. If you're 2/10 poor-stupid-ugly It's gonna be hard to impossible for you to get to 9/10. But to respond to the general point: TRP increases the average competition level, you don't need everyone to check-in to make it worse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/17 08:19 AM |
| 2 | TRP as a data source and a mindset is actually hurting the general interests of men as a wholeWhat is the inherent (Not relative) worth of confidence and style? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/17 08:03 AM |
| -1 | TRP as a data source and a mindset is actually hurting the general interests of men as a wholeSomeone who contributes to society and makes the world around him a better place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/17 08:01 AM |
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