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| 2 | Family is West's sore point.Family is man, woman, and one or more children in countries that haven't lost the plot. | /r/MGTOW | 17/05/19 10:27 PM |
| 2 | Family is West's sore point.That's not what he means | /r/MGTOW | 17/05/19 10:10 PM |
| 1 | Always look ahead to choose the right pathI'm reading On Duties by Cicero at the moment so I'll go with Bill. | /r/MGTOW | 24/03/19 07:57 PM |
| 0 | The Gentlemen's Book of Etiquette and Manual of Politeness - Cecil B. Hartley (ebook)My grandad was born just before WW2 and he's familiar with the rules purported in the book about letting women sit by the window on a bus (in the book it says let them in a carriage first) and walking nearest the road when with someone elderly or a woman. There are lots of things like that in there that can still be applied today but I think you can dispense with the bowing and the top hat :P. One I liked in there is if you stop to speak in the street, stand on the upper part of the path closer … | /r/MGTOW | 23/03/19 07:44 PM |
| 1 | I'm not a Christian but I was reading this Christian worksheet the other day and I think it's great, check it out.http://newlifediscipleship.com/ < source | /r/MGTOW | 01/03/19 03:00 PM |
| 1 | I'm not a Christian but I was reading this Christian worksheet the other day and I think it's great, check it out.It literally tells modern women ("gotta be me, gotta be free") to be submissive. | /r/MGTOW | 01/03/19 01:40 PM |
| 1 | I'm not a Christian but I was reading this Christian worksheet the other day and I think it's great, check it out.To me it feels like it's saying that men and women have gone to extremes in their behaviour and that they should rein it in a bit, and explain how to do so. | /r/MGTOW | 01/03/19 12:36 PM |
| 2 | I'm not a Christian but I was reading this Christian worksheet the other day and I think it's great, check it out.Not check boxes but if you flick through to page 16 on the images (it starts at 12) there's a chapter about modern women that says don't nag etc lol | /r/MensRights | 01/03/19 12:18 PM |
| 1 | Dear mgtow, the Stoics were big advocates of marriageBut Seneca and Rufus weren't late Roman empire and you had stoics during the Republic too | /r/MGTOW | 31/12/18 11:49 PM |
| 1 | Dear mgtow, the Stoics were big advocates of marriageWhich primary sources are there except Lucretius' poem? | /r/MGTOW | 31/12/18 04:59 AM |
| 1 | Dear mgtow, the Stoics were big advocates of marriageSeneca On Crowds: 1. Do you ask me what you should regard as especially to be avoided? I say, crowds; for as yet you cannot trust yourself to them with safety. I shall admit my own weakness, at any rate; for I never bring back home the same character that I took abroad with me. Something of that which I have forced to be calm within me is disturbed; some of the foes that I have routed return again. Just as the sick man, who has been weak for a long time, is in such a condition that he cannot be … | /r/MGTOW | 30/12/18 09:39 PM |
| 1 | Dear mgtow, the Stoics were big advocates of marriageI know next to nothing about Epicureanism so won't comment on it. | /r/MGTOW | 30/12/18 09:30 PM |
| 1 | Dear mgtow, the Stoics were big advocates of marriageTbf Seneca said avoid the games because you will become emotional and lose your human ability to reason while you're watching. I personally don't try to pick out and discard antiquated tenets, that's actually one of the things that annoys me about the modern Stoics. The Stoics said the function of sex is procreation, now people sit there trying to say it's outdated. I'm sorry but did sex and it's function change one jot? No, so it's still relevant. Marriage has arguably changed but some of the a… | /r/MGTOW | 30/12/18 09:29 PM |
| 0 | Dear mgtow, the Stoics were big advocates of marriageI'm not JP, don't think much of him tbh. Nah posted a post on stoicism the other day and someone reposted it here and generally noticed mgtow seems to like stoicism. I just wanted to point out that the stoics encouraged marriage in case people weren't aware | /r/MGTOW | 30/12/18 04:43 AM |
| 1 | Dear mgtow, the Stoics were big advocates of marriageWhich ones have full beards? Rufus advocates a beard because men naturally grow one and that it's not a hindrance so don't cut it (army etc is a different case). If a soy boy has a beard for the reason that it grows and not as a fashion statement then well done soy boys. | /r/MGTOW | 30/12/18 03:31 AM |
| 1 | Dear mgtow, the Stoics were big advocates of marriage"let him consider how he would like it" he's using a hypothetical to make a point. It's funny you called him a cuck, if you don't have one length hair on your head and a full beard, he think's you're a cuck who can endure being considered "womanish" xD https://sites.google.com/site/thestoiclife/the_teachers/musonius-rufus/lectures/21 "So men who cut their hair are obviously doing it out of a desire to appear handsome to those whom they wish to please, and so some of their hair they cut off compl… | /r/MGTOW | 30/12/18 03:15 AM |
| 1 | Dear mgtow, the Stoics were big advocates of marriageRe adultery, here is what Rufus says "And yet surely one will not expect men to be less moral than women, nor less capable of disciplining their desires, thereby revealing the stronger in judgment inferior to the weaker, the rulers to the ruled. In fact, it behooves men to be much better if they expect to be superior to women, for surely if they appear to be less self-controlled they will also be baser characters." https://sites.google.com/site/thestoiclife/the_teachers/musonius-rufus/lectures/1… | /r/MGTOW | 30/12/18 02:57 AM |
| 1 | Dear mgtow, the Stoics were big advocates of marriageEpictetus had a lame leg, this was out of his control, he didn't cut it off though! Stoicism isn't about doing away with everything outside of your control, it's about realising the things that are out of your control so you don't get annoyed at the things you don't control do something you don't want them to do. When externals do things we don't like we can change our opinion because that is under our control. Marcus Aurelius says "Take away thy opinion, and then there is taken away the complai… | /r/MGTOW | 30/12/18 02:44 AM |
| 3 | GYOWThe account is suspended... | /r/MGTOW | 30/12/18 02:22 AM |
| 1 | Dear mgtow, the Stoics were big advocates of marriageWhy wouldn't they include nappies in that number? Most people use them on their children. Yes I've not researched it, I'm just using a bit of common sense. | /r/MGTOW | 30/12/18 01:19 AM |
| 1 | Dear mgtow, the Stoics were big advocates of marriageThey are things outside of my control... "the things not in our power are weak, slavish, subject to restraint, in the power of others. Remember then that if you think the things which are by nature slavish to be free, and the things which are in the power of others to be your own, you will be hindered, you will lament, you will be disturbed, you will blame both gods and men: but if you think that only which is your own to be your own, and if you think that what is another's, as it really is, bel… | /r/MGTOW | 30/12/18 01:10 AM |
| 1 | Dear mgtow, the Stoics were big advocates of marriageICYMI here's Hierocles: As, therefore, he is stupid who esteems one finger more than the five, but he is most reasonable who prefers the five to one; for the former despises what is more eligible, but the latter, in the five, preserves also the one finger: after the same manner, he who wishes to save himself rather than his country, in addition to acting unlawfully, desires impossibilities. | /r/MGTOW | 30/12/18 12:42 AM |
| 1 | Dear mgtow, the Stoics were big advocates of marriageYou're right, which is why I stressed before about finding someone appropriate. We all know women aren't exactly rational when it comes to their children but I think you can avoid conflict over this issue by going over it well in advance (before the marriage part) and break it off if you think they're likely to go on spending sprees. | /r/MGTOW | 30/12/18 12:38 AM |
| 0 | Dear mgtow, the Stoics were big advocates of marriageYour opinions are yours | /r/MGTOW | 30/12/18 12:32 AM |
| 1 | Dear mgtow, the Stoics were big advocates of marriageA philosopher said that in a society that periodically exiled philosophers and he still believed he had a duty to it. Relatively speaking it's much kinder today so the argument that you have a duty to it is even stronger, not weaker. | /r/MGTOW | 30/12/18 12:24 AM |
| 1 | Dear mgtow, the Stoics were big advocates of marriageYes your labor contributes to society for sure but you can't provide all those services I mentioned all by yourself. In many countries the situation is a lot worse so you should be grateful for the condition it's in rather than hold it in contempt. Sure it's not perfect, nothing ever is, but it could be much worse. | /r/MGTOW | 30/12/18 12:21 AM |
| 1 | Dear mgtow, the Stoics were big advocates of marriageI've seen that figure. What does it include, I'm sure I could trim it down. I bet it includes nappies and buying new clothes each time the kid grows. Just use whatever they used before nappies and and put them in something that lasts as they grow like a gown or cloths or whatever they're called. A sub-1 year old hardly cares about how it looks. I suppose it includes hair cuts too, Rufus suggests having the same length hair with no fancy designs, easy enough to cut out barber appointments with $1… | /r/MGTOW | 30/12/18 12:17 AM |
| 1 | Dear mgtow, the Stoics were big advocates of marriageThe society that provides hospitals for you to be born, the society that gave schools to educate you, the society that gives you food to acquire without strenuous activity, the society that pays your work back with a pension when you can no longer work thinks your toxic, disposable and unwanted? Come on! | /r/MGTOW | 29/12/18 11:56 PM |
| 1 | Dear mgtow, the Stoics were big advocates of marriageConsume less then. A nice place to start is all the toys children get bought at Christmas. This is one of the reasons parents say kids are too expensive and limit how many they have. Children dont have to be expensive or be a huge burden on the planet, society just tells us to treat them expensively. You can satisfy a child with a football, a deck of cards, and slipper to go hide, instead they're all being bought xboxs. | /r/MGTOW | 29/12/18 11:53 PM |
| 0 | Dear mgtow, the Stoics were big advocates of marriageSeneca and Rufus were first century, it wasn't that late. Aurelius and Hierocles are around 200ad(ish) though | /r/MGTOW | 29/12/18 11:42 PM |
| 1 | Dear mgtow, the Stoics were big advocates of marriageBut they saw procreation as a duty, it's a bigger issue than just yourself, Hierocles says "For we do not beget children so much for ourselves as for our country, procuring a race that may follow us, and supplying the community with our successors." And explaining how we should regard our country he says "As, therefore, he is stupid who esteems one finger more than the five, but he is most reasonable who prefers the five to one; for the former despises what is more eligible, but the latter, in t… | /r/MGTOW | 29/12/18 11:37 PM |
| 0 | Dear mgtow, the Stoics were big advocates of marriageTrue but he doesn't go any further into it should hard to say anymore than "worse than loneliness" | /r/MGTOW | 29/12/18 11:33 PM |
| 2 | Dear mgtow, the Stoics were big advocates of marriageObesity they'd say shows a lack of self control. They'd criticise men with tattoos, probably accuse them of being effeminacy because it's as if you care too much about appearance. It depends on single moms, they'd probably approve that they didn't have an abortion though. They'd criticise debt although Seneca does touch on it but I don't remember what he says exactly. On moral depravity check Seneca letter 115 https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Moral_letters_to_Lucilius/Letter_115 Rufus said women… | /r/MGTOW | 29/12/18 11:18 PM |
| -2 | Dear mgtow, the Stoics were big advocates of marriageBoth are at fault, both for their willingness to engage in sex so early on. It's on both the man and the woman to examine the other carefully. For example if you see a girl who believes that climate change is a big issue and never wants kids as a result this would be one to avoid unless you can persuade her that she's wrong. It doesn't matter how well you get on, your aims are not the same, and it's gonna fail sooner or later. You can apply this to women who don't want to marry, want an open rel… | /r/MGTOW | 29/12/18 11:08 PM |
| 0 | Dear mgtow, the Stoics were big advocates of marriageIt was shit back then too, Rufus: But where each looks only to his own interests and neglects the other, or, what is worse, when one is so minded and lives in the same house but fixes his attention elsewhere and is not willing to pull together with his yoke-mate nor to agree, then the union is doomed to disaster and though they live together, yet their common interests fare badly; eventually they separate entirely or they remain together and suffer what is worse than loneliness. | /r/MGTOW | 29/12/18 10:58 PM |
| -4 | Dear mgtow, the Stoics were big advocates of marriageIt's on you to find the right person, suss them out, date/court and let the process take several years if you like, then get married, then dip the wick. Today people do this process backwards and suffer the consequences. | /r/MGTOW | 29/12/18 10:52 PM |
| 1 | Stoicism cant save a cuck from himself. A cuck is going to cuck.Aurelius does say "leave a bad man's actions where they are" so not unusual he forgave. | /r/MGTOW | 29/12/18 10:28 PM |
| 1 | Bumble recently added an "advanced filter" option. That's funny, I don't see a "weight" filter available....Think how much time they save you not having to initiate conversations and getting no reply though :D | /r/MGTOW | 29/12/18 10:21 PM |
| 1 | Epictetus on trying to impress womenNo, he's literally saying nature designed man with a beard and woman without a beard and that those shaving it off are trying to make themselves pleasing to women. He thinks the act makes you some man-woman creature and questions why not just remove the source of your hairiness altogether lol. Bear in mind he believed that nature was rational and God and made you with a beard so why would you cut it off. This is echoed in Rufus lectures where he says the beard is like the eyebrows and acts as a … | /r/MGTOW | 26/12/18 01:23 PM |
| 5 | Epictetus on trying to impress womenWhen he says smooth in this page he's talking about being clean shaven btw: "First learn who you are, and then, in the light of that knowledge, adorn yourself. You are a human being; that is, a mortal animal gifted with the ability to use impressions rationally. And what is "rationally"? In accordance with nature and perfectly. What element of superiority, then, do you possess? The animal in you? No. Your mortality? No. Your ability to use impressions? No. Your reason is the element of superiori… | /r/MGTOW | 25/12/18 03:23 PM |
| 3 | Laddish behaviour in TRP is stupid if you ask me.By laddish I mean in school there seems to be a lot of peer pressure to have sex, you see it in TV shows as well which just encourages it imo. I feel like the people on TRP are pissed off because they can't meet this pressure even though it's a stupid pressure to try and meet anyway. | /r/ExRedPill | 28/07/18 12:19 AM |
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