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| 12 | Q4A: What do you think would happen if men stopped giving so much attention to women?Pretty sure they can’t have sex by themselves….or…yk…engage in relationships with the opposite sex without the opposite sex. They can masturbate but….sure that’s it really | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/23 09:08 PM |
| 1 | CMV social skills is genetic and people can't just learn game.Your initial post didn’t say 50%. So that’s not true. And as I’ve said, I’ve seen no evidence that personality is deterministic. The jury is still out on that stuff, and not only that, there are reports of people being able to learn that stuff, within the red pill community. By the way I’m not a red piller. I’m not arguing from any pill, I think all of them are bogus. You seem to be arguing blackpill though. And you can use your anecdotes just fine, however I’d just use the same counter - your e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 11:55 AM |
| 1 | CMV social skills is genetic and people can't just learn game.You are shifting. The TITLE of your post says something completely different from what you’re saying. The post itself also doesn’t say what you’re saying you said. My initial response was not me saying that it’s all genetic, because my position is the exact opposite of that. My whole argument is that it’s NOT purely genetic, that genetics form some but not ALL of our behavior. My first sentence to you was about arguing the nuances of hardline determinism. Why the fuck would I go down that route … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/22 09:03 PM |
| 1 | CMV social skills is genetic and people can't just learn game.So in your first point you keep shifting goal posts. This position is miles away from the initial position you presented. I’m going to consider your view changed. “I’m partially right” is still wrong, no matter how much you want to cope. You were incorrect. You haven’t read the study. Secondly, we began using looks as a metric because you brought up genetics. Looks are a part of genetics. I used my looks to show that biology doesn’t explain everything. You can’t make strong claims and then walk … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/22 09:16 PM |
| 1 | CMV social skills is genetic and people can't just learn game.So something tells me that you haven’t read this study. Firstly, the study is talking specifically about a psychobiological perspective on personality, one that specifically accounts for the heritability of certain personality traits. Secondly, it doesn’t say 50%, it says 30-60% of personality traits are heritable. If you wanted to be accurate you should’ve said about 45%, which would’ve been in the middle. Thirdly, the analysis presented doesn’t fully answer the nature/nurture question, nor doe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/22 06:26 PM |
| 2 | A man’s lack of success with women is no one’s fault but his own.If that’s your only takeaway you’ve missed the point | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/22 06:10 PM |
| 1 | A man’s lack of success with women is no one’s fault but his own.Advice like yours doesn’t prove anything either, I just disputed this. It’s my main dispute. As for your second point, it’s obvious that this is the case, but my point is that despite me doing better than him and most other guys on avg in a lot of these departments, I still get no success. You can’t use experience either Bc we’ll just be sitting in the experience paradox. It’s a real thing, but it achieves nothing material in the context of this discussion. Stop talking to me about maxxing. I’ve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/22 05:43 PM |
| 2 | A man’s lack of success with women is no one’s fault but his own.He’s not unkempt on the surface, and she nags him a lot about stuff. She’s the clean one of the two of them. Plus, I said that I was more attractive than him, that doesn’t make him unattractive. I’m giving some perspective on my situation, not shit talking my roommate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/22 05:36 PM |
| 1 | A man’s lack of success with women is no one’s fault but his own.We’re both black. He’s taller. I’m about 5’9, he’s about 6’0 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/22 05:33 PM |
| 6 | A man’s lack of success with women is no one’s fault but his own.Pretty much, yeah. It’s insane. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/22 04:03 PM |
| 1 | A man’s lack of success with women is no one’s fault but his own.I’m better looking than my roommate. For miles. I go to the gym. He doesn’t unless I take him. I’m already lean. He’s not. I have a good jawline. He doesn’t. My facial hair is relatively groomed, and my only real blemish is an underbite. He’s got a neckbeard. He has a petite, Asian gf, who’s totally my type. Blackpill logic won’t work here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/22 04:00 PM |
| 4 | A man’s lack of success with women is no one’s fault but his own.She is, and I’m assuming the shit stain issue has been cleared up. But the fact that it happened and she stayed with him is my point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/22 03:42 PM |
| 1 | The bluepilled meme that "communication solves everything" is just a lazy catch-all phraseCommunication isn’t a debate. If you’re debating your partner about your relationship, your relationship is likely doomed, or toxic, or both. Most of the time, power imbalances in relationships have shit to do with what you said it does. More often than not there are interpersonal imbalances brought about by insecurities, rather than anything concrete. Those concrete things being the topic of argument is just indicative of deeper underlying issues. So no, communication is not just “posturing”. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/22 03:00 PM |
| 2 | Most men don't get laid because they don't approach and talk to enough womenI think cold approach is a bad strategy for men. I think women need to start cold approaching. It’s too frowned upon currently for men to do it, and women have all the power in terms of gatekeeping sex/the very entryway into a relationship. They say men are the gatekeepers of relationships, but this isn’t the full picture, as a relationship can never start if a woman doesn’t reciprocate that initial interest and open the door for the man to be ABLE to gatekeep anything. So effectively either wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/22 02:55 PM |
| 2 | CMV social skills is genetic and people can't just learn game.We can argue the nuances of hardline determinism, sure, but I hope you know that’s the framework you’re operating from. Where’s the 50% figure coming from? Not familiar with that number. I hate interacting with people. I still seek it out and try to talk to people, because I feel that I can only cope with my loneliness if I have fulfilling friendships. I’ve been bullied most of my school life because of my biology. I have ADHD. So as a result, my self esteem is dogshit, my self confidence is low… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/22 02:51 PM |
| 9 | A man’s lack of success with women is no one’s fault but his own.Lol ain’t that the truth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/22 02:38 PM |
| 10 | A man’s lack of success with women is no one’s fault but his own.I mean, personally, as someone who invests in his looks and hygine (I go to the gym, I make sure I shower regularly, etc), trust me, I understand. But when your roommate tells you that she used to find shit stains in her bf’s pants….or when your room is just messy but still smells nice, but you go to another dudes house and it’s 10x worse and smells of weed, smoke and liquor…. Yeah after a while shit like that begins to grind my gears just a LITTLE bit. A teensy weensy bit. After a while, you be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/22 02:36 PM |
| 1 | Good guys of PPD, what good things do you do?Shit I mean…. I’ve been a wingman at a Halloween party for a guy I 100% didn’t know (didn’t work out, which sucks, but I tried) Once helped a lady struggling to get some steel beams in her SUV (she dropped them everywhere) Helped save the relationships of close/tertiary friends (yes they’re all still together, apparently I give good advice) Lent money to a friend who was in a tight spot, but we’ve never met in person before and he lives in Romania I tip big at restaurants Bc I’ve worked BOH for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/22 02:29 PM |
| 4 | CMV social skills is genetic and people can't just learn game.Wrong. Point blank. Social skills are primarily nurture. I’m pretty sure there are studies about this. Social skills form as a result of your biology responding to the world around you. Your core personality is dictated by your biology. It gets formed into something else by your environment. Which means - it’s malleable to some extent, you can change it. Spit out the blackpill my friend. It tastes horrible going down, and shitting it out will be worse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/22 02:17 PM |
| 19 | A man’s lack of success with women is no one’s fault but his own.I say that it’s probably me, but my friends keep saying I’m unlucky. I still think it’s me. That being said, your hygiene point is bad. My roommate has complained to me a bunch about how bad her bf’s (my other roommate) hygiene is. I know dudes that constantly bring up sex to women, make innuendos and jokes, etc, and then I find out that they hooked up with the girl in question. I know guys that are so invested in their own egos that they can’t see their way out of a fully lit room, but they sti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/22 02:14 PM |
| 0 | How are women supposed to solve the sexlessness issue?I think it’s unfair to characterize the argument as “women are supposed to solve the sexlessness issue”. I don’t think anyone reasonable would put all that on women, as it’s a tall order for one gender to achieve alone. That being said, there are concrete things that women can do. You’ve got: make the first move change (but do NOT lower) unrealistic expectations be more willing to be straightforward (honesty really solves a lot in dating) Of course, this is a massive oversimplification of a lot … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/22 02:00 PM |
| 1 | Something most women just wish men understood“Mental disorders aren’t significant enough to make a difference” <- you’re quantifying irrationality. Also, just because you’ve seen it happen doesn’t change anything. Not to mention the fact that you still don’t seem to get that there are poor people that might steal for the thrill. On top of that, you can’t say that they thought nothing would’ve happened if they got caught, because otherwise why would they steal for the thrill? People don’t skydive because they think nothing will happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/22 12:05 PM |
| 1 | Something most women just wish men understoodIf you think your brand of rationality is so important as to “leave people behind”, then idk what to tell you. And by the way, the academia you speak of is currently led by the folks who DON’T subscribe to your brand of rationality. Idk how declaring that ppl will be left behind on a sub-thread on Reddit is a meaningful statement to make. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/22 12:01 PM |
| 1 | Something most women just wish men understoodWell firstly you said that irrationally isn’t quantifiable, but now you’re quantifying it. Secondly, I’m not disputing why crime happens, I’m disputing your dichotomy of there either being rich people that steal or poor people that steal. This is a false dichotomy, there’s way more to it than that. Going off of what you just said, why would you include rich people in theft if crime rates fall as people get richer? And why would rich people steal….ever, if it weren’t for things like kleptomania? … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/22 11:49 AM |
| 1 | Something most women just wish men understoodThat is but one dimension of an overall plethora of dimensions. We can scream from the rooftops about how important it is to “teach kids critical thinking”, but unless we start employing it ourselves, we have nothing to teach. The answer is more complicated than you’re making it seem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/22 11:45 AM |
| 1 | Something most women just wish men understoodThis isn’t true. There are things like mental disorders (that are not rational, and are quantifiable) that can increase one’s chances to steal, make it a compulsory action even. Like I keep saying, you and I don’t have perfect information. You can’t assume that we’re all rational with stuff like fear. Fear isn’t entirely rational. Legitimate fear is not the same as rational fear. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/22 11:43 AM |
| 1 | Something most women just wish men understoodAs much as I’d like to have ppl think for themselves on avg, I’m sorry but I can’t expect most people to operate outside of bias like that. Something like that isn’t the responsibility to f the individual, it’s on the society in question to change that sort of thing. None of that changes if I sit there and kick and scream about how unfair and racist it is, even though it indeed is unfair and racist. You can’t expect everyone to be perfect arbiters of logic. Actually I think it’s highly irrationa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/22 11:38 AM |
| 1 | Something most women just wish men understoodHold on there, bucko. “Should women not modify their behavior?” Yes. They should. Ya happy? No one with a brain would deny that to fix dating, both men and women need to modify their behavior. Right now though, we’re talking about how men can act to better respond to a legitimate fear of women. And it might take a while, and by that I mean long enough to where you’d probably be dead and have grandkids, but if we all try our best, we might be able to shift the paradigm AWAY from the “all men are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/22 11:35 AM |
| 1 | Something most women just wish men understoodNo. You misunderstand logic. Your response is called a non-sequitur, which means that it doesn’t logically follow. The LEADING CAUSE of theft is poverty, but it could be that there are two or three other causes that are there, and by your logic, people could decide to be afraid of those things. For example, cancer caused by smoking was (and still is iirc) one of the leading causes of death in the United States. Yet the tobacco industry took decades to receive pushback, and people only within the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/22 11:31 AM |
| 5 | Something most women just wish men understoodYou can’t say it’s unfounded if you look at how we’re represented in the media, how the crime stats portray us, how our own culture presents us, etc. I don’t like it either but I totally get it. When I’m alone at night and I see a woman coming my way, if I can, I cross the street before she does. White, Black, Hispanic, whatever. It’s kind of racist but at the end of the day it has a kernel of truth to it, and even if it’s unfounded people will operate on it. We aren’t all perfect arbiters of lo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/22 11:25 AM |
| 1 | Something most women just wish men understoodSpells utopia wrong Laughs at “bad critical thinking” Better world = utopia (totally their argument btw) is therefore intelligent Seems legit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/22 11:20 AM |
| 3 | Something most women just wish men understoodWhat part of this post is sexist delusion? She didn’t say that all men are predators, she outlined something that is a very real fear of most women. You realize the avg woman is significantly smaller than the avg man right? And that such a size difference comes with a lot of physical disadvantages right? Not seeing the delusion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/22 11:18 AM |
| 4 | Something most women just wish men understoodOk let’s put OP’s point this way. If you were gonna get into a fight, which would you be more scared for your safety over? A man or a woman? Actually I don’t even need to ask that question because you say in your response that men are more violent against other men. That’s OP’s point. You can’t sit here and act like men aren’t capable of great physical harm in proportion to what women can defend against. I’m sorry but with the body profile of most women, even I as a guy on the smaller side of av… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/22 11:13 AM |
| 1 | By being a woman, you automatically possess a significant amount of social privilege.Well men have a lot of social privileges as well. We talk a lot about the pressures put on men to succeed, but a lot of people seem to forget that these pressures are borne out of the positives that men have. We’ve got a lot more privileges in terms of physical and financial security (although the latter is changing a bit), and in dating we’re weirdly able to get away with a lot. We know that last sentence is true because we can look at the advent of #MeToo. Although I wonder about the legitimac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/22 01:26 PM |
| 1 | Women are too extremely fickle and flakey for regular guys to have a chance in this day and ageI wonder how applicable this would be to reality if you had the feedback from these women. The problem here is that you don’t have perfect information. I don’t think you should assume these things about all women, given that most ppl’s actions aren’t random. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/22 01:21 PM |
| 2 | Men need women less than they admit to, Women need men more than they admit toI agree, but at the same time there’s a lot that goes into that. For example, we have to talk about social norms and a lot of intersectionality to get to a place where we begin to answer these questions, but a lot of RP folks avoid sociology like the plague. The reasons for these things are (somewhat) there, I just don’t know that you’ve dug deep enough to find any. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/22 09:37 PM |
| 23 | Men need women less than they admit to, Women need men more than they admit toWhy not have the title: “Men try less than they make it seem, and women try harder than men think they do”? Seems more applicable, yes? Seems like a lot of this post is missing the mark on some fundamental parts of dating. It feels one-dimensional. Have you consider the “why” of these things more deeply? Have you tried to change starting viewpoints? It’s only after you look at things from more angles than this one that you start to find the semblance of an answer to questions like these. And oft… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/22 08:21 PM |
| 1 | Behind every redpilled/blackpilled man, there's at least one woman who made him soDo you think all healthy relationships maintain a 50/50 balance at all times? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/22 08:14 PM |
| 1 | Behind every redpilled/blackpilled man, there's at least one woman who made him soYou can’t sit here and not realize how fucked it would feel to be in OP’s position. I totally get your point and I agree, but come on. Let’s be honest, it was fucked from both sides. OP is being small-minded and selfish, but the girl was totally cucking herself for no reason. Unless there’s more to the situation that OP hasn’t told us, she just sounds like a limerent idiot who couldn’t see her way out of a paper bag, much less an abusive relationship. And OP, if you’re reading this and you ever … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/22 08:12 PM |
| 0 | Behind every redpilled/blackpilled man, there's at least one woman who made him soYou said a lot of nothing. The comparison you’re making is not analogous to literally anything OP said. Literally all you said was “porn bad”. Who the fuck cares? Porn makes you insecure, you’d prefer your partner not engage with it, so what? To steelman your position, don’t you think it’s absurd for your partner to only be attracted to you? Don’t you think there’s always going to be someone that you can’t compete with physically in the eyes of your partner? Unless somehow I’ve lost the plot and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/22 08:05 PM |
| 6 | Behind every redpilled/blackpilled man, there's at least one woman who made him soBecause often, these “extremely small anecdotal experiences” aren’t so. Based on how you’re defining it, literally no anecdote counts for anything ever under any circumstance because we’re all living extremely small anecdotal experiences moment to moment. The human brain has developed to form heuristics based on our experiences. It’s literally the most basic form of empirical research. To act like the OP’s statement doesn’t bear out in reality descriptively is patently absurd. Now you could argu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/22 07:59 PM |
| 1 | including all the benefits and disadvantages,if you could choose what sex to be at birth which one would you choose?It would’ve been nice to be born as a woman (save periods, because seriously how the fuck do you guys put up with that). I enjoy certain advantages as a man though that I’m not sure I’d trade off to be born as a woman. So while it’d be niiiice…I’d probably still choose to be a male. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/22 10:55 AM |
| 2 | Men should stop blaming feminism for the problems in societySo, for this this Roe V Wade post, you can't tell me if an incel wrote this, you wouldn't look at it weird, strictly going from the title. Even within the thread, the subtitle literally says things about planning for a counterstrike. You can't possibly tell me that if an incel wrote any of these things it wouldn't sound weird at all. Within the linked thread, one of the first comments you see is someone saying that women should boycott men - something that's actually been thrown around for a whi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/22 02:42 PM |
| 1 | Men should stop blaming feminism for the problems in societyWhat an amorphous and bad faith way of deflecting. Why would you sit here and act like you weren't implying the difference between them and Elliot was the school shooter thing? Come on now. I'm not stupid. Let's break down your response: What did they do = What action(s) was/were taken What claims did they make = what did they say Those are two completely different statements, and you know it. Which is why I shot down your first point, because initially, you never asked what claims they made, yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/22 01:45 PM |
| 2 | Men should stop blaming feminism for the problems in societyThey don’t need to go shoot up a school to be as bad as him. Otherwise we wouldn’t be calling ppl Nazis on the internet. There’s nothing innate in men that causes them to be more likely to shout up a school, it’s mostly socialization. And even if you argue that there’s no direct harm, the indirect harm is still huge because there are a lot of takes that run downstream from that sub which feed into the narrative and creates more incels. So you can miss me with the “but they never shot up a school… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/22 01:28 PM |
| 1 | Rule 12, no downvotingYeah I’ve encountered downvotes so far but I dont even have the option to, assuming it’s a woman thing on this sub. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/22 11:22 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Women are never happy!Happiness isn’t a constant state, it’s a general one. You can have something bad happen to you but turn around later that week and still be happy. Satisfaction =/= happiness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/22 11:21 AM |
| 5 | Men should stop blaming feminism for the problems in societyI’m also black, but I don’t like to bring up my race to make a point. I feel that it’s applicable here. You’re right, but that doesn’t negate anything that I’ve said. That’s why you hear complaining from black women specifically about “sorry men”. Or men that are trash in bed. Or men that can’t provide. This has nothing to do with just getting laid. You don’t need to date someone to get laid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/22 10:45 AM |
| 2 | As a guy you should never tell women your intentions directly.Sure, I can agree with that, but the fundamental premise is that you should never be honest. That’s what I take issue with. When you say you agree with that without further elaboration, it sounds a lot like you agree with the premise too, rather than something more specific, as you said here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/22 10:40 AM |
| 3 | One thing I don't get about hypergamy theoryEasy answer - while women are hypergamous to some extent, they also aren’t perfectly rational beings. We’re not computers, we’re more complex. Hypergamy isn’t just some program that God surgically inserted into their brains before birth. It’s a theory to explain a tendency. Mind you, what the RP DOESN’T tell you, is that EVERYONE does this. Men date up in terms of looks, while women date up in terms of status. Things are a lot more nuanced than this though, which is why hypergamy, while being a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/22 10:39 AM |
| 3 | As a guy you should never tell women your intentions directly.Taken from a reply - thought I’d share. To the mods: I didn’t see a rule against this, so feel free to delete if you have an issue with this repost. Just trying to signal boost. Anyways here’s the text block: This is horrible advice, regardless of gender. We need to start encouraging everyone to be more honest in dating. The constant smoke and mirrors games are one of the major things that are destroying the dating market. I’m a very honest and upfront person. I only ever keep silent to avoid un… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/22 10:34 AM |
| 4 | As a guy you should never tell women your intentions directly.This is horrible advice, regardless of gender. We need to start encouraging everyone to be more honest in dating. The constant smoke and mirrors games are one of the major things that are destroying the dating market. I’m a very honest and upfront person. I only ever keep silent to avoid unnecessary conflict, but in general if I need to say something, I will. If I’m dating a girl I want the freedom to be able to tell her my intentions in full, and I want her to be free to tell me no and/or why s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/22 10:32 AM |
| 8 | Men should stop blaming feminism for the problems in societyLiberal =/= good necessarily. Those women are literal femcels. They’re each no better than Elliot Rodgers. I don’t think that’s a hyperbolic thing to say. Unironically, they’re literally just incels, but women. In all the worst ways. And yes, they’re going to be smaller. Wanna know why? Women aren’t the ones disproportionately getting fucked in the dating market, they’re actually the ones succeeding. They have no issue finding dates or boyfriends, the issue is that they can’t find men who are a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/22 10:23 AM |
| 2 | Men should stop blaming feminism for the problems in societyThis is just not true and it shows that you either haven’t done enough research or engaged with these communities. Firstly, you have subreddits like r/RedPillWomen and r/FemaleDatingStrategy. Secondly, if you go online, there are tons of podcasts that bring women on that say this stuff. Thirdly, between Facebook and Twitter, you’ll see a fuckton of men are trash memes, and it’s either based on pure progressive arguments, or pure conservative arguments. There’s not much in between. And finally, e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/22 10:17 AM |
| 11 | Men should stop blaming feminism for the problems in societyIn the black community specifically, there’s a more emphasized focus on men to adhere to traditional gender roles. The idea of dating a “black king” is an example of this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/22 10:09 AM |
| 1 | Men should stop blaming feminism for the problems in societyI had a whole response typed out...and then I sat there and reread it. Have you read OP's post? Specifically the last sentence? Do that and then come back to me lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/22 03:09 AM |
| 21 | Men should stop blaming feminism for the problems in societyYes, they do. Why is it that women generally don't date men who earn less than them, even though they outearn men on avg? Why is it that there are women who find most men unattractive because they're too feminine? What about the black community? Why is the narrative of a "king" still so prominent, if not for traditional men? How many women do you see making the first move in dating? Because it's still uncommon. How about fatherhood expectations? Why do women primarily want partners that make the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/22 02:58 AM |
| 7 | Men should stop blaming feminism for the problems in societyIt was a fair assumption. It's why I'm in this sub. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/22 11:55 PM |
| 4 | Men should stop blaming feminism for the problems in societyOh, well I didn't know that because you didn't say that, you said just "Men", which i interpreted to mean that men categorically do this. I'd be fine with that characterization, if you accepted what I put forth before. Although my point still stands anyways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/22 11:50 PM |
| 6 | Women don't feel love or want sex. These things are an insurance policy to them. Don't fall for the white knight mentality and get used by them, work on bettering yourself for you not for them.Fundamentally this is wrong. For one thing, women would not masturbate if it wasn't for having sexual urges. And on top of that, if women didn't feel love, we wouldn't be here right now with me replying to this thread. The need for it wouldn't exist. I mean this pragmatically, not metaphysically - literally if women didn't feel love, there would be no need for men to form dating strategies to attract women, and we wouldn't have ever created the feedback loop known as PUA. It just wouldn't have h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/22 11:35 PM |
| 1 | Why men send unsolicited pictures so easily?I'm engaging with what you typed directly. And I'm not here for funsies. I'm combating the issue at its lowest level: callous statements like yours. I appreciate the love, but I can simultaneously call out the person you're debating against and fight on fronts like these, the parts that go unnoticed to everyone else. And I even agreed with you already that sending unsolicited dick pics is gross. So idk what else you want from me. Edit: we even told each other good day and then you came back. So … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/22 11:22 PM |
| 1 | Why men send unsolicited pictures so easily?Nope - because you said "not complicated", not "not simple". So unless you meant to type "not simple", I essentially have no clue as to why you got yourself embroiled in a Reddit thread defending the "not complicated" meme to the end, when you saying "not simple" would've just been agreeing with the post above you unless you were just being sarcastic. Or, you could've meant to say "Men lack empathy and compassion =/= simple", which again, I would've taken issue with, but I would've accepted due … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/22 11:15 PM |
| 0 | Why men send unsolicited pictures so easily?Same to you i guess | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/22 11:06 PM |
| 2 | Most women are not attracted to honest men. They're attracted to men who are the best at faking their intentionsWell, I'm not too well versed on the theory behind things like late-stage capitalism, but I can definitely say that the reason why capitalism hasn't collapsed in on itself the way dating seems to be is probably due to the fact that there is a state that can keep capitalism in check. Again, I'm not gonna sit here and say the state should get involved with relationships. However, I think it's up to us as a society to begin to try to change the status quo towards something healthier, and it's high … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/22 11:05 PM |
| 1 | Why men send unsolicited pictures so easily?No, you're the person not understanding. Let's grant you what you meant. Because you're right, and I should've been more clear, I don't actually think you're a misandrist. And I do agree that men sending unsolicited dick pics is a gesture which lacks empathy. My issue is with your categorical statement, which you keep making. It's not a semantics thing either, you genuinely seem to hold the position that men lack empathy BECAUSE of their tendency to send unsolicited dick pics. This isn't true. M… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/22 10:52 PM |
| 1 | Why men send unsolicited pictures so easily?My issue was the fact that you said "Men lack empathy or compassion." This is Reddit. I'm not gonna comb through your history to see if you're a r/FemaleDatingStrategy poster. I'm gonna go with what I see. And Men lack empathy or compassion read to me as: Men (categorically) lack empathy or compassion , which to me sounds a hell of a lot like outright misandry. I know you said more later, but you can't act like the rest of what you said absolved you of your initial statement, at least not before… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/22 10:15 PM |
| 2 | Most women are not attracted to honest men. They're attracted to men who are the best at faking their intentionsI actually agree wholeheartedly with everything you've said. I'm tempted to give this response a save just so I can throw it at people later, because it's an amazing summary. However, it doesn't answer anything I've said, it merely sidesteps. You're missing the fact that dating is a 2P game, not a 1P game, and it's not a zero-sum game to boot. The issue here is a societal one. You can see this when you hear people talk about how men are trash. And on top of that, you're actually presupposing tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/22 10:09 PM |
| 2 | The modern male need for female validation is probably not instinctiveThe men that got female validation wouldn't have fathered any significantly higher amount of children than men who didn't get female validation. This is because women were dependent on men for survival andtherefore they couldn't reject someone just cos they were unattractive.Therefore the 'validation-seeking' genes would never outnumber the'non-validation-seeking' genes (assuming genes that cause you to seek opposite sex validation even exist). In fact, it was probably the opposite. I still have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/22 10:00 PM |
| 1 | Why men send unsolicited pictures so easily?I did. For me, I can definitely tell you, with an older sister, and a few female friends, I may not fully understand what y'all deal with, but I agree that it's bullshit. And when they come to me for advice, I call out the bullshit when it happens and I tell them they shouldn't put up with it. I can do this, while also recognizing why the men on here are the way they are. A lot of us don't know any other ways of communicating, and the only way we know how is in a way that is crude, and without f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/22 09:47 PM |
| 1 | Most women are not attracted to honest men. They're attracted to men who are the best at faking their intentionsI don't expect it to be fair, nor do I particularly feel it ought to be. It might be cringe for some people, but the truth is, the sexual marketplace IS a marketplace. Some flexibility must be allowed for things to function properly. Otherwise, the market would collapse. "Fairness" can very easily turn into a slippery slope. However, the current market causes men to feel utterly useless and disposable, and it also actively hurts women. In theory, the current climate should help serve what the RP… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/22 09:41 PM |
| 0 | Why men send unsolicited pictures so easily?Men don’t lack empathy or compassion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/22 09:01 PM |
| 1 | Most women are not attracted to honest men. They're attracted to men who are the best at faking their intentionsAt first I upvoted and then I reread what you said. There are actually quite a few problems with it. Firstly, just because you fake your intentions doesn’t mean that you’ll be good at doing so. The claim was that the men that women are attracted to are the ones that fake their intentions, it doesn’t mean that all men who fake their intentions are therefore attractive. That’s a non-sequitur. The reason for that is because women aren’t stupid. A lot of women can tell if a guy is faking his intenti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/22 08:57 PM |
| 3 | Most women are not attracted to honest men. They're attracted to men who are the best at faking their intentionsUnless something’s changed, FOSTA and SESTA negate that. And also, this is only true in the microcosm of casual sex. When we zoom out then your statement comes off as extremely callous. There’s something that feels fucked up about the ability for pussy to be sold at absurd prices, while the penis’ value is literally not worth selling. You may not be this kind of person, but you sound super vitriolic and butthurt rn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/22 08:48 PM |
| 1 | Tried online dating for the first time yesterday and ... yikesGlad you heard me out. Apologies if I was too harsh, but with these things there’s no light way of saying the truth. Good luck out there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/22 08:19 PM |
| 2 | Tried online dating for the first time yesterday and ... yikesWe’re saying that there’s a contradiction. A pretty face is a pretty face no matter the height. It won’t do you favors to be short but you win some points back. Pretty sure he’d be at least a 6 even if he was a bit shorter than avg (say 5’6), and even then I pointed out that he could be downplaying himself. Not only that, but his standards are too high for how he rates himself. He rates himself low but feels he deserves a lot more than what he can realistically get. No matter which angle you loo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/22 06:27 PM |
| 1 | Tried online dating for the first time yesterday and ... yikesExactly like cmon now there’s dishonesty somewhere, idk where but it’s there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/22 03:46 PM |
| 1 | Why over emphasizing superficial things like looks leads to a downfallYou essentially just repeated your first statement again, you haven’t actually responded. Your argument doesn’t address the fact that people with intolerant personalities get dates all the time, and that ugly people can also get dates. You can claim that ugly ppl must date ugly people, but then the same issue still applies, all else equal. This is a lot more nuanced than what you’re claiming it is. For example, with my personality being as it is, the drawback is that I’m too good at being friend… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/22 03:24 PM |
| 1 | Why over emphasizing superficial things like looks leads to a downfallI don’t think that’s true. Maybe at first, but over time I’ve actually had more ppl than not compliment me on my personality/how attractive I am (and no it’s not just my mom before you troll) and how safe I make them feel. I don’t know what qualifies as intolerable to you, but if anything I think my personality is TOO tolerable. You can’t solve this with black and white thinking. And either way - whether my personality is dateworthy or not, by my standards not being too high according to you, I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/22 03:08 PM |
| 1 | Why over emphasizing superficial things like looks leads to a downfallAs a man who fits none of what you described in the first point and STILL can’t find a relationship, despite being a relatively good looking guy with a personality that I think is bearable, I can confidently say this is only true of the men you’ll find online, or in incel circles. Truth is that most of us, men/women, would be willing to date at least one of those types on the list, and those that don’t have probably been listening to way too much RP content to engage with reality effectively. Yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/22 11:19 AM |
| 3 | Men which want a relationship should instead look for sexWell hey, if it works for you it works for you, but (for example) I know it wouldn’t work for me, because even though I’d love to use your strategy because I love sex, my personality doesn’t lend itself to getting sexual encounters very well, much less romantic ones. I don’t have a lot of sex. I don’t have any sex, actually, I only lost my virginity last year. Why would I try to employ this strategy without a significant amount of upfront time investment to build the skills/personality necessary… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/22 11:10 AM |
| 18 | Tried online dating for the first time yesterday and ... yikesIn a weird way, men do need to be more selective. But I have to agree with everyone else in the thread - you’re pushing 40 and you’re calling yourself a 4.5. Maybe there are hidden reserves of attractiveness that you have that you’re downplaying yourself on but you’re cutting out a significant portion of the dating pool by focusing on external stuff. You say you want a relationship but I don’t think you’ve thought about what you really want, what would really make you happy. Have you tried to ge… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/22 10:57 AM |
| 5 | Men which want a relationship should instead look for sexThe way you look for relationships isn’t necessarily the way other people should. And you’ll find only what you’re looking for, for the most part. If you’re looking for sex, you’ll primarily find partners that just want casual sex. If you’re looking for a relationship, your primary pool will then be those that are in a relationship. Changing your strategy doesn’t change the outcome because girls aren’t gonna go “I can tell he’s trying to fuck me to see if we’re compatible”, they’re gonna go “ugh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/22 10:45 AM |
| 1 | The modern male need for female validation is probably not instinctiveSo for the part where you’re talking about the Palmar gasp reflex, which I’ll just call Premise 1, nothing else can follow because you’re presupposing that we evolved to have the optimal habits to survive on an individual level. If you look at it from the standpoint of maximum chances at procreation, then it actually explains the male need for validation from the opposite sex. Secondly, social capital is an extremely important part of human survival. The concept of being rich literally came from… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/22 03:32 AM |
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