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I think luck is an underrated factor.
/r/seduction15/06/26 06:08 PM
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The problem for most guys who struggle is looks. A woman won't even acknowledge you if you are below a certain bar in terms of looks.
/r/seduction09/04/26 05:21 PM
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Do you think some men are too ugly to attract women sexually?
/r/seduction16/02/26 12:39 AM
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We should just tell boys the truth from a young age. Life is not fair, there isn't someone for everyone and it is highly likely you will never be attractive women.
/r/seduction11/12/25 12:25 AM
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Men should stop approaching. As you said nobody is a mind reader and women initiate with attractive men. If you are not one of those guys best to stay alone, there is no winning a woman over through charm or courtship in 2025.
/r/seduction10/12/25 06:20 PM
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THIS. Women want kind, emotionally intelligent, safe men who are also hot. If you have these qualities without being good looking you are just invisible.
/r/MensRights09/12/25 02:45 AM
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All women say this but it doesn't match the reality. Ask the overlooked men and they will laugh at the suggestion. If women liked what they claimed to like this subreddit would not exist. You all want the players, narcissists, emotionally unavailable fuckboys you pretend not to like.
/r/seduction03/12/25 08:30 PM
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Men come to the conclusion of the OP precisely because of the experience being engaging with a woman only to see her choose the nonchalant guy. It's all about attraction. If a woman is not attracted to you, no amount of effort will make her reciprocate while if she is attracted you don't have to work as hard.
/r/seduction25/11/25 02:08 AM
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You can be as non attached to approval from women as you want and yet if you are unattractive it won't matter. If you have only known rejection from women it is not just because you are needy and looking to women for self-affirmation, it is because you are attractive. Men who do well with women are not all self aware, enlightened, emotionally intelligent etc........in fact they are often just as much a mess and insecure as the men who struggle with women. The difference is simply about physical …
/r/seduction19/07/25 12:16 PM
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The stats are pretty clear. Women on the spectrum date far more than men on the spectrum it is not really close. Men on the spectrum often can't even get someone to give them the time of day for boundaries or anything else to be an issue. For men any hint of being shy, awkward or neurotypical kills your chances with most women.
/r/seduction04/07/25 03:53 AM
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Women on the spectrum get a lot of attention from neurotypical men and other men on the spectrum so they have way more options. Men on the spectrum have very few options and are relying on the hope that someone gives them a chance.
/r/seduction01/07/25 06:05 PM
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nobody wants shy, awkward, autistic spectrum men looking at them. Any hint of these qualities as a man and women are repulsed.
/r/seduction29/06/25 06:23 PM
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Women don't deserve good men
/r/MensRights22/06/25 01:26 AM
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Being the friend that women feel safe with often leads to women just not seeing you in a romantic, sexual way. On the dating subreddits women always make posts about dating men who are kind, emotionally available and have been vetted but they just don't feel that raw attraction. They can't imagine being intimate with him.
/r/seduction21/05/25 10:57 PM
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And get banned and/or the post deleted. All posts like these achieve is radicalize more young men. If a 16 year old has not even the entered the dating scene, has no experience with women and reads stuff like this you are just pushing him into the manosphere. This is all about the fulfilling prophecy when you tell men they are horrible, shameful and not worth anything and they think well I am going to be condemned regardless of what I do and become unreachable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:58 PM
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Look at the nonsensical misandry that mods allow. Pathetic. OP should be banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:52 PM
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Women don't deserve good men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 03:04 PM
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Every woman think she and her friends are wonderful, intuitive, magical, morally superior, Queen Goddesses. If there is a lack of relationship material men it's because a very small percentage of men get so much attention that there is no incentive for them to ever develop better relationship skills because there will always be another woman who wants the rare attractive, high status man. On the other hand some men get such a lack of attention that they never get the opportunity to learn relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 12:56 PM
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Men are not mind readers. We have to be a woman's exact type and psychic enough to know that exact moment she is in the mood and receptive. It's not worth it for the vast majority of men. Women today have no problems sending DMs to attractive men or liking post on social media. Approaching in 2025 is just exposing that you are not one of those guys. There is no good place or moment to approach for 99.9999% of men today.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 02:39 AM
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A small percentage of men abuse, breadcrumb, manipulate women and have rosters without communicating yet all men are trash. I have never done those things yet all men are assumed to do those things because such a small percentage of men get all the attention so women think they are the only men that exist. If an unattractive does have the audacity to make his presence known he is vilified and treated like a monster. It is sick. Women are not invisible. A women saying she is invisible or gets no …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:00 PM
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Expose that they are not the the morally superior, virtuous, intuitive, queens that they present themselves to be and who are never in the wrong. Most women are petty, dishonest, emotionally violent and importantly way more physically violent than people want to accept. Do women look at any man outside of the top 1% as a human? Nope. It's either you are invisible or a tool treated with barely concealed contempt but women are wonderful right.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 05:45 PM
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Actual dating experience by far. The manosphere did not come out of thin air. My views were formed by experience and observation long before I ever used reddit, discord or any forum. Even as a kid I sensed something was off. The way the world was being explained to me and what I observed in the actions of women were completely misaligned and I have seen nothing in adulthood to challenge that view. In fact women only expose themselves more the more they talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:02 PM
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And that's changing everyday they are becoming more and more like asian women in their white worship....
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 04:45 PM
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Where is this place where black men tend to have much higher dating success? You can't rely on what women say. There are memes about this. Complaining about white male privilege online and sucking white c*** in real life. Studies are clear, all races of women prefer white men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 04:19 PM
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Women hate most men and just about tolerate the rest at best. True attraction is reserved for a lucky few, less than 1%. Women are responsible for the state of modern dating. They are the choosers and they incentivize the narcissistic, emotionally unavailable, destructive men they complain about. Women are way more shallow than men. They are natural eugenicist, ruthlessly choosing the trait that survive into the next generation then complaining about the results. Society does not deserve good me…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:18 AM
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Well I am 33. I am not cute and have never been cute even my aunties considered me an ugly child. I will never be the hot, protective, assertive guys either. I am up to date with the times. I look at reality unflinchingly. I don't believe anything women say. I don't chase anyone. I have given up on life and reality. You are wasting your time on me. Stop responding.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:38 AM
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The country with a caste system. The country of honour killings. I would have zero chance in India. Indian women like white men and lighter skinned Indian men that is it. The population means nothing, I don't have what women are looking for anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:09 AM
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Not a white man and I am not rich. The two things you need for a woman to give you a chance. This is what women fail to understand you need to get a date for any of this other stuff to matter in the first place. Women are so privileged they just assume things that only come into play in the later stages of courtship. No country has 99% marriage success rate, have not seen that research anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:03 AM
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The usual dismissiveness from another try hard who has invested his identity in being one of the good men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:56 AM
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Women don't like me but I am not necessarily a fan of the passport bro movement as a solution. First of all women are women everywhere. If you struggle to trigger true attraction in an advanced western city you will struggle in the third world. Second, I am not a white man. White man are the most wanted among all races of women. Women actually care about race more than men according to studies contrary to popular belief. Women in the third world who would be open to passport bros are dreaming of…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:47 AM
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You are the one being obtuse. You are giving women the benefit of the doubt, no surprise and making it seem that every woman has this very specific individual type particular to her. It doesn't add up with what is actually going on out there. Why did my roommate have women fighting over him to the point he had to put them on a schedule? why do some men fuck thousands of women including married women, while others die never holding a woman's hand? Why are women so invested in this moral superiori…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:42 AM
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You are trying to say that every woman has a 'type' particular to herself and I am saying that is false because the experiences of men differ drastically, so clearly certain men are way more favoured than others. The claims are not adding up. What do women gain from trying to pull the wool of over men's eyes?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:30 AM
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Every woman claims to be this perfect, intuitive, virtuous, understanding queen yet out in the real world most of you are cold and selfish and online the mask comes off, revealing your absolute hatred for most men. God forbid I am not some perfectly handsome, wealthy, bad boy, wealthy, psychic.....
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:24 AM
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Most women claim that they want kind, sensitive, emotionally intelligent, stable men. Women also consistently downplay the importance of looks and status. If women's words and actions were aligned there wouldn't be such an issue with narcissistic fuckboys causing so much damage who curiously always seem to have another women willing to give them a chance. If women's words could be trusted there wouldn't be such a vast gap between men who die virgins, never kissed, never gone on a date and men wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:14 AM
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If women's words were aligned with their actions the world be a different place. The distrust does not come out of thin air. It's not rocket science. However, you wouldn't understand because you are one of the rare good men aren't you and we are just horrible people who need to be lectured and corrected.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 10:47 PM
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I do not mean to be dismissive. However, the guys with "too much" experience must have something women want by definition and the guys with "not enough" experience obviously. I just think if actions and words were aligned the dating scene would be completely different.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 01:00 AM
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Every woman claims to appreciate vulnerability but the consensus among men is not to be vulnerable for a reason. It almost leads to a negative reaction and outright repulsion at worst. Even inexperienced women are disgusted by inexperienced men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 11:02 PM
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Women don't care about inner work. The players and fuckboys they repeatedly choose are not doing inner work. This is so called 'work' is another grift. The goalpost are always moved for want men need to do to be worthy while the men who actually fuck do nothing. Men should self develop for themselves not for women because women are more shallow and never cared about male intrinsic qualities. It is all a big myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 06:17 PM
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Listening to this now. Confirmed what I had always observed and suspected about women they are not who we thought they were. Not even close.
/r/MensRights25/04/25 12:25 PM
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I also used to think that women just don't think about them but I don't feel that is true anymore. They now actively seek to vilify unattractive, low status men for just having the audacity to exist. I stand by this observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 12:23 PM
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Women are nowhere near as empathetic, emotionally intelligent and nurturing as they would like to think. Women are more shallow than men and most of their criticisms of the male approach to dating i.e. focus on looks, emotional availability, willingness to commitment...... is classic projection. Women are not indifferent to unattractive, low status men they actively vilify them and treat them like garbage. Being alive and within her field of view is enough to trigger a woman as an unattractive m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 11:39 AM
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Women make dating a mind game. Seems like women are doomed to emotional suicide regardless, considering they never stop complaining about the players and fuckboys they keep choosing despite knowing the most likely outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:41 PM
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So basically if you are not very physically attractive or a woman's type you are cooked. Do you believe every man is capable of being sexually attractive to some women or is it something that most men just won't experience? To be skilled at sex or you have to get sex which is the hurdle for most men. Great response again. I agree even the men who do get laid are not in control for the most part but it's still far better position to be in than the desperate state most men unable to inspire lust l…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:39 PM
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The way I see it is that women are only worth being involved with if you are one of those top 1% most attractive, high status men. Otherwise as an average or below average guy you are being tolerated at best, by someone who looks down on you as a burden and at worst you become a literal tool. It's better to die a slow, lonely painful death than to be tolerated for having the audacity to not be perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 06:01 PM
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I think the growing feeling is that the juice is not worth the squeeze.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:30 AM
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Unattractive men should focus on social circle?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 06:00 PM
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Is this another way of confirming that only a very small percentage of men are attractive to women and deep down women don't want to be bothered by men outside that minority?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:38 PM
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So unattractive men should give up? Or do you believe there is someone for everyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:35 PM
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How might a woman warm approach?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:34 PM
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If you're not attractive and you don't have the looks to at least get your foot in the door what should you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 11:20 AM
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Interesting post. Why do you think some men get to live out their fantasies and most don't? I know guys who can barely hold down a job who are living out porn star fantasies with beautiful women. They don't have money, status, they are attractive enough but not anything extraordinary yet they seem to trigger something in women. I wonder what you think distinguishes these kind of men? I basically have come to conclude that if you are not that guy and you can't become that guy then dating/romance …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 11:42 PM
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While I don't agree with paying for sex, I would rather just not have sex if that was my only option. Many men will never experience authentic attraction for their looks or anything else and not every guy will choose the monastic path like I am when they realize they will never be good enough to attract women. So I understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 06:24 PM
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How can you tell immediately if someone has the same value as you?
/r/seduction20/04/25 05:53 PM
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Dating apps are dying btw I think your reasoning is right. Women just want to be left alone. Women have no issues showing interest in men they are attracted to and if you are not one of those guys, it is what it is. There is not someone for everyone.
/r/seduction20/04/25 05:50 PM
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What happened to female intuition? So you can intuit that a shy, unattractive man is deep down a bad person and that's why women dislike him but that intuition curiously goes missing with promiscuous men. I think what really happens is that women are so repulsed by unattractive men that they have to create a narrative to vilify them to justify their repulsion so they don't feel guilty. While women either do not see the red flags men in attractive men or are willing to ignore them for a chance wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 11:42 AM
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lol I am not really red pill at all, just a flair for debating on this subreddit. Don't watch the podcasts, not a gym bro, have basically no connection to the manosphere. If anything my interest lean not traditionally masculine; reading and writing fiction, fine art, meditating etc Yeah my style could improve. Women in real life have complimented my 'figure' but I am a very casual dresser. I have very dark eyes, the darkest hue of brown basically black. I tried contacts but I find them too uncom…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 11:29 PM
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You basically described my body; tall, lean, thick thighs, skinny arms, no belly but I wear glasses and women don't seem to like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 11:11 PM
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Women don't want to be approached. Basically my overall point is women mostly want to be left alone. If you are not very conventionally attractive, high status or a woman's exact type approaching is not welcome. Suddenly becoming brave will not change anything for most men. Women do not need men anymore, have complete freedom and it's clear most of us that meet the bar to even have a chance. Attractive men are always involved with women, why? because contrary to popular belief women are actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:32 PM
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Why is it so necessary to dismiss the experiences of men? Men want to meet and be with women. There is no joy in glory in admitting that you are struggling with women, if a man says he has no luck in real life it's because they have no luck in real life. Every path to meeting women is discouraged.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:09 PM
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"I’m sick of seeing people complain about how only attractive men and women get dates and then using dating apps as their example" This is false, the exact same thing is repeated in person a small percentage of men get all the attention online and offline. Every woman believes she deserves a 10 now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:07 PM
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Women are just as shallow in person. Online dating and social media has just unmasked the true nature of women. Women flock to a small percentage of men outside, just as they do online.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:04 PM
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The point is that the men who get the most attention online also get the most attention in real life. Focusing on meeting women in real life will not change much for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:03 PM
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I enjoy reading but I would hesitate to approach a woman I meet at the events I go to in my city because it's a genuine interest not something I do to meet women. So I don't want to potentially become a pariah in one of my genuine outlets, that's the catch 22 of the whole hobby thing. If you really care about an activity you don't want to be 'that guy' creeping on women. There is also added issue of attractiveness, just having a mutual interest isn't enough to spark something.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 04:55 PM
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My whole life has been a mistake. The curse of being born to the wrong parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 01:37 AM
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Well my peers were having sex very early. I grew up in a very liberal place, where young people are pretty much left to their own devices, the complete opposite of a small conservative town. The topic of sex would come up....... who was fucking who etc and the girls noticed I would never say anything in these conversations and correctly figured I had nothing to say because I had never had sex. That destroyed me socially in high school and it only got worse in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 10:39 PM
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I am glad you mentioned free will. If you are 33..... have lived in a major city your entire life, gone to university, graduate school and have never managed to get a date, kiss etc is it fair to say you are one of those guys who was meant to never have sex. Even at school I remember girls saying I would die a virgin. I laughed it off and thought it would happen eventually but they were right.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 07:42 PM
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Caught me off guard here. You are actually holding women accountable. I don't think I have heard another women on here reference the princess attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 04:50 PM
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Is it really manipulation if women choose hot players with known reputations?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 04:34 PM
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Do you agree that a man who makes it to 40 should self delete? Do you think some men are doomed to reach that fate or is there someone for everyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 04:34 PM
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Then why are women complaining so much about narcissistic fuckboys, breadcrumbing etc....Clearly there is a demographic of men who are extremely popular with women but if you go by social media, women seem to be having a horrible time with situationships, friends with benefits...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 04:30 PM
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What do you mean? I don't get to pick anything I am one of the unattractive, unwanted men. I remember a smile from 3 years ago. I am just an observer to the dating scene, I don't get to take part.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 07:09 PM
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If they really valued those qualities they would screen for them from the beginning. Picking the hottest men and then hoping he great relationship qualities are what women are doing until it blows up in their face. They wouldn't be able to relationship hop if women collectively expected more from them from the beginning but because hot men are so rare women are willing to compromise on the front end. The bar is low only for attractive men but they have no incentive to meet it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 06:51 PM
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Well it is clear there exist a demographic of men who struggle to attract women and struggle to just get a date, these men are barely part of the dating scene. On the other hand we have attractive men who have no issues attracting women and are constantly getting into relationships, situationships etc We know the latter exist because women constantly complain about the men they do get involved with. Common issues according to women themselves are narcissism, emotional unavailability, hygiene and…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 06:39 PM
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Nothing is expected of hot men. Emotional labour and other such concepts only exist with unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 06:23 PM
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Seems like gay men are not doing good job then considering the apparent epidemic of narcissistic, emotionally unavailable men that women can't keep their hands off. If a man is attractive and high status enough red flags are overlooked until it's too late, meanwhile supposedly there is an intuition that only works on average to unattractive men that can tell of malovelant intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 11:53 AM
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Guys like us are just meant to give up that is the unspoken elephant in the room. Life is not fair and there is not someone for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 11:48 AM
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What are the signals? Many women on the dating subreddit say they intentionally avoid showing signals around men they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 11:41 AM
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Yes. There was a phase about a decade ago where they were actively trying to set me up but the women could not get past the hurdle of a lack of physical attraction, so they would end things before we even progressed to a date. Now they are in relationships and having kids so they don't bother and the subject does not come up anymore. I feel like a very specific type of guy thrives in the bar scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 01:39 AM
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So unattractive men are cooked?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 01:32 AM
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What should repulsive men do?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 01:30 AM
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Well then dating apps are the best option except that women are leaving the apps and most men cannot get a match.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:11 PM
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I have platonic friendships with women I grew up with but outside of that I feel these days women give a "stay away from me" vibe before you can even talk to them. It seems just existing as an unattractive man bothers them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 05:16 PM
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Well I am already in shape and have a full head of hair but as far as I am aware a woman has never found me attractive. I live in a major city with a very diverse population so it's probable a sign that I just don't have what women are looking for. Women complain about unhygienic, narcissistic, emotionally unavailable men but those men must have something or be doing something right in the first place. Yet I can't get a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:48 PM
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If a woman has never found you attractive by 30 should you give up?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:34 PM
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So unattractive men should give up?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:33 PM
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The difference is the story we tell men about why women don''t like them. Unattractive men are vilified and treated worse than the actual fuckboys and players who harm most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 12:30 AM
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So called healthier women are chasing Chads and punching down on unattractive men as much as the toxic women. OP is right, the manosphere didn't invent anything, it doesn't recruit, just observing the vast gap between what women say and how they behave is enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 12:26 AM
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Judging by Instagram and Tik Tok women like all the same men basically; Tall, White, Lean, Prominent Bone Structure..........They may fall into different niches but this is the basic blueprint for what most women are chasing after this is why when women say they like nerdy men, it's taken to mean Chad in glasses.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 05:29 PM
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Pedestalizing is at the root of a lot of misogyny . You are the type of guy that will end up on the other extreme because of entitlement and woman are rightly wary of guys like you. If you read the journals who do end up committing violence they start off seeing women as these wonderful, infallible creatures and when they realize women are human with their own irrational desires they can't take it and lash out. If men collectively honestly let go of seeking women and wanting female validation it…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 06:03 PM
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If women's words were aligned with their actions, the dating scene would be completely different. They set the tone with their duplicity. Destructive, narcissistic, unhygienic, emotionally available are having a feast in this era. Those men are not the ones suffering from the male loneliness crisis. While women themselves admit they struggle to feel that raw attraction for the good men lucky enough to get a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 10:49 PM
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The very experienced guys have so many options that they probably become complacent and lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:24 PM
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You into watersports and adult breastfeeding?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:14 PM
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How do you carry yourself in an attractive way?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 12:41 PM
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I would rather die a slow, painful death.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 10:52 PM
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What do you think about assisted suicide?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 07:25 PM
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Chores have zero effect on attraction. It's an embarrassing point, can't take anyone who believes in chore play seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 03:24 PM
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What if you are so afraid of women that it feels like your heart is beating out of your chest even in casual interactions?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 03:28 AM
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I am one of the unattractive men. I have had a girlfriend or been on a date. I want the raw truth, should we give up?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 03:24 AM
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So should men just give up if women never give you signals of receptivity?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 03:13 AM
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Upper class women are not immune to being involved with these type of men at all. Maybe it was once a class thing but not anymore with social media. Status and raw hotness are way more important than anything else. I've known drug dealers who are fucking lawyers, bankers etc Just like women talk, men talk and "watch what they do, not what they say" is the truth. I stand by the fact that the more destructive and amoral a man is the more women like him. I have seen it repeatedly in numerous contex…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 03:41 AM
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Upper class women are not immune to being involved with these type of men at all. Maybe it was once a class thing but not anymore with social media. Status and raw hotness are way more important than anything else. I've known drug dealers who are fucking lawyers, bankers etc Just like women talk, men talk and "watch what they do, not what they say" is the truth. I stand by the fact that the more destructive and amoral a man is the more women like him. I have seen it repeatedly in numerous contex…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 03:40 AM
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The reality is that all this talk of safety is neutered by the fact that the most dangerous, abusive men have no issues attracting women. So you are right it is gaslighting. Women seem threatened more by shy, unattractive men who have never touched a woman than they are known by know violent, abusers of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 03:09 AM
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A woman on another subreddit told me that not every man deserves a woman and most of us deserve to die alone. It seems the prevailing opinion among women is that men who can't attract women are inherently defective. I thought at 25 that things would eventually open up and I would have a chance. That's what everyone says when your young "don't worry it will just happen"......evidently not the case for some of us. Actually the more you put yourself out there and try to take part the more hostile t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 11:41 PM
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Please, don't feel bad. It's not your fault, I was not trying to blame you. You are absolutely allowed your preference. All I meant is not meeting the standard of attractiveness and experience means that you are failure and repulsive. If no woman has ever been attracted to you and you have never kissed or been on a date as a 30 year old man. Then there is obvious something wrong and it's nobody's responsibility. Assisted dying/Euthanasia is becoming an option for people with nothing to live for …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 07:02 PM
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Do you think it is wrong to become a bad boy to attract women, if it works? It seems every woman has a toxic fuckboy in her past, if you can't beat them join them, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 06:53 PM
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Well I am screwed. I definitely don't look like a soft boy nor do I look anything like the other Masculine archetype. I can't think of a man in the public eye close to my look, considered attractive. So you have to look similar to these different archetypes now to get noticed; soft boy, hot Rodent, K-pop, guys, Alpha Chad's etc.....
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 06:50 PM
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So personality, emotional intelligence kindness are not as important as masculinity and attractiveness. Would Timothee still be attractive without fame?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 06:39 PM
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So personality, emotional intelligence kindness are not as important as masculinity and attractiveness. Would Timothee still be attractive without fame?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 06:39 PM
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"Call me old fashioned and this sounds a little red pill but when I’m in a relationship I want the man to take the lead, have more experience than me, and be able to guide and teach me and that includes sexually. A healthy amount of experience is attractive because it shows he knows how to connect with people and navigate romantic relationships with healthy sex lives. I’m not trying to make you feel behind or different, this is just a reflection of the times we live in" This is what is implied. …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 06:28 PM
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So what about narcissistic abusers who have kids with multiple women. Does it mean nature wants those traits? I am actually 6'4 but skinny, shy and wear glasses. Would you say it's over if a woman has never shown any interest by 30?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 05:27 PM
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So you agree some men should just give up and we are meant to die alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 05:06 PM
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Most likely he will die alone. Your initial comment expresses the feelings of women towards older virgins; unwanted, repulsive, pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 05:05 PM
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Life is not fair. Many of us will die alone untouched, while narcissistic abusers who women supposedly hate sleep with thousands of women and have infinite options.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 05:02 PM
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Do you think it would be better for unattractive men to stop dating? If you have never had a woman be attracted to you by age 30, is it fair to say that it was never meant to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 05:11 PM
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So personality and compatibility matter less when a guy is hot?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 05:07 PM
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Like I said. Delusional. You don't know what moral integrity is. There is zero need for men to be good or care about the collective male reputation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 08:41 PM
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Pathetic delusional post. The goalpost of being a good, moral man is constantly moving depending on the context. Women do not care about good men. Men being good would not change anything, women would literally complain about point elbows if all men suddenly stopped being destructive. They have an intrinsic disposition towards negativity regardless of what is happening in their environment. The countries that are statistically safest for women also have the most passionate, man-hating feminists.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 07:57 PM
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Unless you are attractive or high status the absolute worst is assumed of you. Modern women can barely conceal their contempt. Women are aborting male babies, rejecting male embryos in IVF. When women are free, they hate men. It's that simple. Even the Chad's and powerful men are only appreciated to enhance a woman's own ego. A male is only loved if he is lucky up to the age of 7, after that it is a ruthlessly cold world for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 11:37 AM
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So if you are not attractive or wealthy as a man, should you give up?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 12:39 AM
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I agree with you. This is the true red pill. Deep down most men know this even if they can't verbalize it. Once you stop thinking with your penis and analyze the dynamic between men and women it is clear that women have an innate disgust towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 04:32 AM
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They would learn some self respect and stay away from women. Find meaning in other things. Life isn't fair, no point pushing a square peg into a round hole only to still be hated. Unattractive men should completely retreat from society and let the Chads and women live out their paradise without unattractive men that they have to half pretend to care about. It is very clear that if you are not attractive or high status as a man, you are in the way, a nuisance, like a pest you can't rid of. Not fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 06:25 PM
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Women should leave sexually unattractive men alone even if they have money and status. Women should just openly share sexually attractive men. Men need to see the raw truth of female nature, very few us trigger raw desire in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 04:50 PM
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Don't worry there are enough suckers with no self respect, who will accept anything to have a woman on their arm.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 04:47 PM
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More gaslighting. Nobody is fooled, the cat is out of the bag.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 10:53 PM
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Better to die alone, painfully than be settled for, what a pathetic state. There is a long list of things to do with your life than be tolerated. As a guy you get pretty harsh feedback, by the age of 25 you know if you are one of those guys who will never be desired. Better to walk away......money, status, being a passport bro are all cope. Women are only worth being involved with if you are sexually attractive, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 02:39 AM
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Would rather jump out of a skyscraper chewing glass.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 02:31 AM
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Morality means little in this world. Nobody plays by the rules at the top.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 11:51 PM
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Rubbish. Many guys struggling, are functional adults. Many guys getting laid are not. The point is that being a normal functioning human is not the deciding factor so it's disingenuous to suggest why some men struggle, while complaining that the men who do get dates and sex don't do those things. Obviously attractiveness is the key factor before anything. "The bar is in hell" just means "we want guys who are so attractive that are getting laid to step up so we are not embarrassed for being attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 06:55 PM
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Great way of putting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 06:49 PM
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Nope. Sorry, the usual deluded crap. The majority of women are not successful and happy, women just have great marketing. Peak under the hood of modern womanhood and it's a bleak, unsightly picture, mostly of their own making. However, since true self analysis is so difficult for women you have to create a narrative where women are simultaneously victims and living in some feminine utopia. Women do not learn from their mistakes. Perception is so important to women that to simply acknowledge and …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:08 PM
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A very small number of men have the narcissistic ability to manipulate women. Women themselves share their stories across social media and often realize they were manipulated by the same exact guy as numerous women. These stories are dumbfounding to many men who can't even get a response from a woman ,let alone take one on a date. I would say the vast majority of women are unintuitive judging by how they describe their experiences and the situations they get into. However, we are living in this …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 03:58 PM
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Well obviously female intuition is a bit of a myth then. The point is men who cannot even get a date are told it is because can sense something negative about them, when really it is purely about concealing the fact that it is all about attraction. I am not disputing abusers are manipulative, I am highlighting that being a 'bad' person is not the deciding factor to how romantically successful a man is. Women have made this a moral issue, when their actions show morality has nothing to do with at…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 03:43 PM
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Abusive men seem to always have partners, yet women claim to have an intuition that allows them to see into a man's true character and supposedly that is why many men cannot get dates. Narcissistic abusive men are not the ones suffering from the male loneliness epidemic. It does not add up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 02:40 PM
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Lesbian divorce and domestic violence rates are higher. I agree with OP's analysis but not his solution. Men need to find meaning and self worth divorced from women. Women have got that part right but the idea that women see men as people anymore than men see women as people is laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 02:28 PM
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I agree with your analysis but not your solution. Men need to accept true female nature as uncomfortable as it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 02:10 PM
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THIS
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:57 PM
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I know Alphas and Chads. My flatmate at University had a rotation of about 12 girls sleeping with him. I grew up with drug dealers, rappers and guys who went on to become professional athletes. I personally know regular quiet girl next door types, hooking up with Chris Brown whenever he's in town. So I see how certain men are treated and all standards in terms of personality, emotional intelligence, kindness go out of the window. What is annoying is how regular guys are gaslighted that the reaso…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 12:26 AM
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Would rather jump off a skyscraper, chewing glass than be the husband after you have had your epiphany that abusive fake alphas are no good. If women collectively want men to like being considered husband material, they have done a horribly poor job of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 12:04 AM
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It's better to be alone. Any man who is not Chad is better off staying single that suffering the humiliation of being Boyfriend/Husband material and having to play games to preserve some dignity. There is more self respect in finding a way to live a meaningful life alone. The juice is not worth the squeeze, even for Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 11:49 PM
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Actual abusive, destructive, narcissistic men have no issues attracting women. This supposed ability to read creepiness is just a way to vilify unattractive men without feeling guilty.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 07:35 PM
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I'm kidding, take a chill pill not everyone is out to attack you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 07:23 PM
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liar liar pants on fire
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 06:45 PM
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Most women do not treat sex as something special. They appear to but all of that goes out of the window if a man is attractive and/or high status enough. Morality, personality, emotional intelligence etc....do not matter. The vast majority of virgin men past age 25 are not virgins through choice. Consistent rejection and then apathy when nothing works is how you wake up one day as a 40 year old virgin. As I said, in 2025 I don't believe anything women say, so I am not interested in your personal…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 05:04 PM
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Women preferred virgin men, those men would not be virgins. It's the same reason why women claim to hate players and fuckboys yet those guys have slept with hundreds of women so obviously they are doing something right. In 2025 I don't take anything a woman says at face value. I just assume I am being lied to. There is a vast gap between what women say they like and what they actually choose and respond to. Players and fuckboys never seem to run out of women despite the so called hate they are o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 04:42 PM
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You allow personal attacks on men everyday but I guess that is okay since men are oppressors right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 06:06 PM
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And serial killers and abusers are meant to experience it, I guess women should let go of the lecturing around morality and emotional intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 11:22 PM
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You are a bit of an oddball aren't you. It's almost endearing. Do you read a lot? I am curious. What movies and music do you like? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 05:27 PM
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Typical, no argument so resorts to insults.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 05:09 PM
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A myth. A woman who is a 5 would rather be the fuck buddy or midnight booty call for a 9, rather than be involved with her equivalent. Dating is harsh for men and most learn their place very quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 04:29 PM
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Most men can't get in the door in the first place to show their other qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:17 PM
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LOL Kali yoga being blamed for the current state of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 05:13 PM
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One man might be sleeping with 10 women who all think they are in a relationship with him. A man being single does not necessarily mean an equivalent women views herself as single. This is not rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 07:27 PM
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The men who mistreat women are not the lonely ones. These men will always have another woman. Male loneliness is about the men who can't even get a date, they have never been alone with a woman. Abusive men have zero issues attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 06:42 PM
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Yet the most dangerous guys have the most success. It's all aa facade. All women have done is found a way to vilify men they were never attracted to absolve the guilt of being attracted to men who hurt them. Destructive, abusive, narcissistic men have zero issues attracting women today. Laughable post.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:25 PM
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If women are so selective because they have to give birth, they have a funny way of showing it. The choice of mate is important because it contradicts what you are saying. Whenever I hear of a terrible crime a man has committed on the news, it's almost certain that he has a woman in his life and he most likely has multiple kids. Maybe we could get somewhere and have an honest discussion about sex and human nature but no, women must always maintain the moral high ground. Ironically this defensive…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 02:50 AM
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Absolutely agree with you, if only women actually applied this care and attention to picking men suited to be good fathers. The more destructive, abusive and narcissistic a man is, the more women want to mate with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 02:17 AM
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The fact that women are capable and might give birth, key word being might does not mean women are perfect and men who are struggling should just accepting anything. What is the angle here? I have a womb so worship me?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 11:55 PM
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Actually creepy men have no issues attracting women. Marilyn Manson and Ted Bundy had no problems attracting women, that creep detector did not seem to work until it was too late or in retrospect. So called wholesome men actually receive the most hate from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 12:52 AM
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I have not seen any consensus among women on this subject. My reading, is that any place is the right time, depending on a combination of where the women is in her life at the time and whether or not the guy is her type. However the harsh truth is that there is not someone for everyone and some guys are not any girl's type. I personally do not approach ever, even if a women is throwing positive signals. I am not an attractive guy. It's far less jarring being rejected on dating apps than getting …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 12:50 AM
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There are multiple post on r/dating & r/dating_advice everyday of women asking why men have stopped approaching lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 12:33 AM
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Terrible mod btw
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 07:07 PM
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Even if the boy is to blame it does not negate the fact that he may not interpret what he is seeing like that. It is not rocket science. There is what is actually happening and how each person perceives what is happening. Perception has it's value and influences behaviour, so has to be addressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:27 PM
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Well I hope everything works out. I was not trying to blame you or be mean. I was just trying to put myself in his shoes, I can tell you really care which is important. I am not expert but take it a day at a time, the teenage years are fragile and confusing regardless of background. A few other suggestions... Getting involved in team sports to learn accountability and maybe Art to learn how to process emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:23 PM
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I am not excusing anything. Humans are irrational, especially teenagers. I am putting myself in his shoes, he could absolutely be in the wrong yet that won't change how he is perceiving a situation. Nothing constructive in you post just the usual finger wagging. I was in the exact same situation as a boy. My mother leaves my aggressive Father, which strains our relationship until later in my teens. I eventually developed a clear and distinct identity from both of them and hold no animosity. Not …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:27 PM
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Why do I sense you are actually crying. I am concerned. Are you ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:00 PM
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Young boys see their reflection in their fathers. Right or wrong, he takes your rejection of his father as a rejection of himself. He's really asking do you actually love me? Or am I another bad man, doomed to disappoint you? Young men are sentenced with the original sin of being male before they even get out into the world. Then the self fulfilling prophecy does it's work and they either embody what you subconsciously expect, or even worse they purposely become misogynistic because they think..…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 06:54 PM
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I would respect this opinion if women actually chose safe men. The problem is women scream about safety but the most abusive, destructive, narcissistic men have zero issues attracting women. It's not because they are being manipulated, women actively choose known terrible men, so this point is invalid. The biggest problem in modern dating is that women have created a myth that that they are these intuitive, morally superior queens who deserve princess treatment only yet their actions don't match…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 04:23 PM
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Dating apps is still better than approaching in 2024 for the majority of men. On the dating subreddits, there is a consistent pattern of women turning down men who approached them in person, then regretting that she turned him down. Dating apps are a struggle but at least that you are interacting with a pool of women at least appear to be open to meeting someone, while in the real world nobody can quite agree where and when it is ok to approach. Women see everything negatively, if women got the …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 05:33 PM
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I guess you are one of the good ones. Have a cupcake.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:43 PM
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Excellent post. The best response by far in here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 04:25 PM
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Silly fantasy that has little connection to reality. You should delete this post, it's one of the most ridiculous I have read this year. Delaying sex and attraction will not make you the prize later on, that is a myth. Women in their prime are choosing the guys they want even if it backfires. Your approach is one big cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 03:55 PM
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Gay guys are not really seen as 'men' in the same way, they are treated as one of the girls. Guys in relationships have some women's seal of approval, so other women seem him as human.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 03:14 AM
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He's right. This is the real red pill. If we woke up one day and there were no terrible men, no abusers, murderers etc It would make little to no difference in how women speak and treat men. My observation is that women have an innate disgusts for men, that has very little to do with anything he does. The only way this is overcome is if a man is either exceptionally attractive and/or famous then the female hindbrain says "this man is important to the tribe" he's human, otherwise the average man …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 01:40 AM
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The point about women reading pornographic material instead of watching it is true but that does not account for the entirety of how women act in the real world. You are making the claim that women are attracted to men who have done the "work" yet, men who clearly have not done any work on themselves continually manage to draw women into these situationships and disappointing situations. Evidently, inner development is not the key factor as to whether or not a man will do well with women. There …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 01:53 AM
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Yet women endlessly complain about fuckboys, so obviously the good ol' picker is not that great is it or women are lying about what they are attracted to. My observation is that the more destructive, abusive and narcissistic a man is the more women love him. Men struggling to date can't even get their foot into the door to show their positive qualities and self development, yet apparently abusive, emotionally unavailable fuckboys always seem to be involved with a woman. Your point does not add u…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 01:37 AM
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You are over complicating it. All I am saying, is that women reveal what they actually value through the insults they use on different men. Incel really just means unattractive, inexperienced man who has the audacity to not suck up to me, while being a fuckboy implies that you at least have some value. Calling men incels as a way to ostrasize them, justifies putting morality aside and taking a fuckboy approach to dating. Women don't judge men by how good of a person they are, although they like …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 07:28 PM
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No it's because women find unattractive, inexperienced men who don't suck up to them repulsive. Being a fuckboy implies that you at least have some value, nobody aspires to be an incel but many men would not mind being a fuckboy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 07:20 PM
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They openly say on the subreddit that they see it as an insult, a man who is only good for sex and nothing else. This is what they write on here, I am saying it is interesting that the go to insult for men who have opinions they don't like is incel and not fuckboy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 07:15 PM
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Women claim they are using it as an insult but it's not received as an insult by men because getting sex without commitment is seen as a win for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 07:10 PM
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Doesn't shaming men who have red pill adjacent opinions just justify their argument. If he had the same beliefs but was a known chad who had been with a lot of women, the insults would be different. It's telling that guys from the manosphere are never insulted by calling them a fuckboy, women who shame incels prove the point morality means nothing as long as you are attractive and get laid. Ironically this need drive to shame inexperienced men, creates incentive for young men to ruthlessly pursu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 05:20 PM
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He has invested his ego in being one of the good ones
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:04 AM
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The men who do all those things always have girlfriends and wives. The more destructive a man, the less issues he has with women, while average guys trigger repulsion and fear because of some supposed intuition that can sense the true essence of any man. Funny how that intuition never works for the actually dangerous men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 04:07 PM
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My political instincts are liberal but I saw this coming. The volume of the misandry has been turned up post covid. The absolute hatred for men has been hard to ignore. Zero sympathy from someone maybe a decade ago who considered himself to women. Looking at their subreddits, I see no attempt to understand just digging their heels in. Other governments around the world better take note; protect the borders, keep crime and cost of living low, don't demonize an entire demographic.
/r/MensRights07/11/24 02:04 AM
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This is actually excellent, thanks. This is so helpful that I am curious on your opinion of attraction signals that make it clear that a woman is receptive to a man. What should men look for?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:20 PM
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Women actively choose violent, anti-social men. They have the most children for a reason, female nature is the problem. The more destructive a man is the less issues he has with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 03:40 AM
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What makes you engage in kinky sub sex? What does that guy have to draw that out of you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 03:05 AM
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There are things I don't say because I have been banned in the past if they are not going to apply their rules to everyone, then they should just be open about their bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 06:33 PM
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Appealing to nature is not as smart as you think. The attempt at creating a master civilization is nothing new in history and it always fails.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:24 PM
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Having standards and promoting eugenics are two completely different things. Talk like this against any other demographic would not be acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:21 PM
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Option 2. 1 is conditional desire. The goalpost for what makes a man a good partner is always moving, so she care about your well being and future then poof for reason or another she doesn't care more. The supposedly better communicators who want men to be mind readers, will always find a fatal fault in you eventually. Option 2 is more honest. Real desire is unmistakable, in the heat of the moment there is an objectivity to it. A moment of option 2 is more fulfilling than the seething contempt o…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 11:09 PM
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I guess putting yourself out there and making new connections is the only way to increase your luck. Anytime I try to make something happen it feels forced.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 08:22 PM
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You claim women can sense that there is something off with a guy yet they can't use this same intuition to sense when a man is truly destructive and dangerous because actually off men have no issues attracting women. So how 'off' a man is not the deciding factor. Whenever there is a new serial killer or abuser of women, he always seems to have a wife or girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:30 PM
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Many women have mixed social circles, real friendships with women and still struggle. Angsty incels have become the face of men struggling but actually there is a silent majority who live regular lives, do all the right things on the surface that women claim are important yet still struggle. In other words, even if he was objectifying women it wouldn't be the reason why he is struggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:26 PM
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Then why do abusers do so well with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:19 PM
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This is actually solid, kudos. Would you say there is a luck factor?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:18 PM
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The top men have incentive to not exploit it. If women as they openly express today all over social media and on mainstream TV find the vast majority of men to be; trash, useless, repulsive and unattractive.........why wouldn't you take advantage as one of the blessed chosen ones. For attractive, high status men women are replaceable, there is nothing the current 7,8,9 or 10 they are seeing can give them that another women can't. A combination of evolution, social programming (books, tv, films),…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:04 PM
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So demonstrate that I might be great at cunnilingus lol. I do love going down on women but my technique is not the most refined, more hungry dog licking the plate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 06:47 PM
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How do you become one of these men used for sex by women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 05:41 PM
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How do I become one of these guys, who is just great for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 05:40 PM
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If men are told how trash, worthless and pathetic they are for decades, eventually that programming will show up in their kinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:40 PM
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Women don't have to like shy, average men. We are not entitled to anything but the vilification of these men only causes more resentment. If all you see across social media is women complaining about toxic fuckboys, emotionally unavailable men and you are painted with the same brush despite struggling to even get a date and not be invisible, it is hard to accept that it is due to some inherent character flaw.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 11:03 PM
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Serial Killers, murderers, drug dealers and worse always seem to have wives and girlfriends and no those women are not necessarily low value. My observation is that women are actively to drawn to these kinds of men, they don't have to manipulate or make them do anything. Women seem to find a hesitant, shy average man more repulsive and threatening than known abusers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 10:45 PM
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Are women responsible for anything? Do you have any agency? Or is it always something being done to you? Hypervigilance and intuition are two different things, if it is the former then women should say that. Women are not immoral for feeling like certain men are creepy but it is hard to take seriously when clearly immoral men have zero issues attracting women. In fact the more destructive and immoral a man is, the less issues he has with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 10:28 PM
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Immoral men are great manipulators yet women have this special intuition which allows them to see into the malevolent essence of unattractive men and KNOW something is wrong. Curiously this intuition fails with other men. It sounds like a backwards rationalization to justify the repulsion towards unattractive men, so women do not feel bad about being shallow "he is attractive because he is a bad person and I can sense it".........
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 10:18 PM
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How do you explain men like Wade Wilson who murdered and tortured two women and is receiving thousands of love letters and petitions for his release from women. He has a subreddit of supporters on here and views of women fawning over him on Tik Tok are well into the millions. Clearly attraction has nothing to do with morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 10:00 PM
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My observation is that the more immoral and destructive a man is the less issues he has with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 09:58 PM
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Mods not going to ban her for this blatant misandry. This is ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 10:31 PM
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Kind, educated, productive men die alone everyday. These things have nothing to do with attraction. Gen Z, Millennial women damn near admit it openly, it's about raw primal attraction at first. Nothing matters if you can't clear that hurdle.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 06:32 PM
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Attraction is not fair and is not evenly distributed. Some men will naturally attract more women than they know what to do with, while some men will never know what is like to be on the end of someone's interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 03:39 AM
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What is a powerful, strong man removing money from the equation? Is it strictly a physical thing or being aa bad boy?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 03:28 AM
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Big assumption that so called 'plainer' women will be interested in an average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 03:27 AM
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There is no such thing as an easy 6 in 2024. This is male arrogance, that will have you paying a mortgage for an ex wife and her new boyfriend. The myth of the humble easy 6 is just that a myth. In 2024 all women believe that they should have the same access to the things the 9 has. If women do not have many options it's because they do not see those options as being worthy rather than an actual scarcity of options. There are more than enough matches out there for the average woman, those option…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:42 PM
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An unattractive man can make people uncomfortable just with presence, you don't actually have to do anything to be considered creepy. The fabled female intuition curiously does not work with certain men who prove to be terrible partners, yet they can tell in an instant that something if off with other men. Seems like unattractive men are vilified to justify the natural repulsion towards them. What is implied in all of this is that unattractive, low status men should self segregate and save the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 05:30 PM
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Unattractive men have committed the original sin of being born unattractive, so must at least have the self awareness to stop trying. This is what they really want.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 04:01 PM
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What's your type then? I'm guessing you like Mediterranean looking guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 08:42 PM
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A 6'5 man with blonde hair and blue eyes does not have to be approachable. Smiling would not make an average, black man approachable. This is tone deaf. Looks are everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:34 PM
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I feel bad that there are some genuine psychopaths out there, we walk past monsters everyday and I understand women being cautious around men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:44 PM
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10 women can be the Fwb of one man it's not rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:49 PM
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Ladyboners is almost entirely tall white men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 01:59 AM
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Refreshingly honest, it often seems that women want to have their cake and eat it i.e pursue their own selfish interest, while insisting men also put women's interests above their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:00 AM
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So all the women in your life are angels? You are that biased. Dismissing the lived experiences of men, how enlightened and virtuous.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/24 03:06 AM
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Love Hey Arnold. They dealt brilliantly with so many difficult issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 06:52 AM
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Brb reincarnating as Chad in the next lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:38 PM
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None of these conditions would matter if he was physically attractive and high status. His only mistake is being born to the wrong parents. Women have sex with men everyday who are conditioned in the way you describe everyday. This is not about virtue or morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 06:23 PM
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"sincere female input" good luck with that. Women perceive every conversation on this topic as an attack and immediately get defensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 06:21 PM
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They vilify the nice guy to protect their need to always have the moral high ground. So, they reject the guy not because he is unattractive (the real reason) but because there is something off with him and they can sense it with their supposed female intuition. The same intuition that curiously fails them when dealing with fuckboys and abusers. What it reveals is that morality means nothing to women, if a guy is attractive and high status enough he could pedo, neo-nazi and they will rationalize …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:11 PM
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I have seen a lot of BBW women lol with athletic, slender guys lately. Guys are desperate and want to bust their nut by any means necessary lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 05:21 PM
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I agree with your point that modern dating is made for women to only deal with the most most attractive men. However, some guys have zero fucks to give and that may include having low standard but they end up having sex and relationships, which creates a positive momentum, at least getting some experience is better than nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 05:14 PM
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You might actually be correct in 2024 everything you do as a man is potentially wrong and toxic, the goalpost for acceptable behaviour is always moved. This creates a scenario where men who are self conscious about making women uncomfortable never try, so they are never even in the game to give themselves a chance. While, men who are not so self conscious and not put off by the idea of being considered toxic or problematic end up doing well because they give themselves a chance. Everything about…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:51 PM
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I agree men should work on themselves but remove the hope for a romantic partner. Life is not fair, you could do all the right things and still end up alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:35 AM
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I agree. So women will either have to share the most attractive men, become lesbians, or hermit with cats and wine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 11:39 PM
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lol rubbish. None of those things matter. Attractive bums have zero issue, what modern women have exposed is that all standards go out of the window if you are attractive enough. Many adult men meet the basic requirements to adult independence and get nowhere romantically. Just more pathetic gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 11:28 PM
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Probably guys who lack experience and get nervous. For an inexperienced guy every date feels like an appointment at the principals office.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:11 PM
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Some of the best insights on indicators of interest I have read. What do you think guys can do to stand out more?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 03:12 AM
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Contrary to popular belief, women choose based on race more than women. Men are attracted to all women. While all women predominantly prefer white men according to recent data. Men are not struggling because they are too picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 02:18 AM
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Great post.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/24 11:40 PM
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You seem quite perceptive from your answers. So I am curious on your perspective on the fuckboys, players who have an abundance of women evident by the amount of complaining women do all over social media. What are those doing right to get their foot in the door in the first place? If women are intuitive how come they can't suss out the intent of these men? They must be doing something right at least in the initial stages.
/r/seduction29/07/24 04:13 PM
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You seem quite perceptive from yours answers. So I am curious on your perspective on the fuckboys, players who have an abundance of women evident by the amount of complaining women do all over social media. What are those doing right to get their foot in the door in the first place? If women are intuitive how come they can't suss out the intent of these men? They must be doing something right at least in the initial stages.
/r/seduction29/07/24 04:13 PM
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lol "provider obstacle parkour" Great line, I am using that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:44 PM
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They expose themselves more and more everyday. This is who they have always been, deep down.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:51 AM
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Why did you bother even responding to my comment in the first place. You don't actually care, you are another one who enjoys the turmoil of men who have no power over you. I have not looked into your post history but I bet you are not making post on corrupt bankers, sex trafficking, men actually harming women. Nope lets punch down on men who already have nothing. How brave, congrats.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:33 AM
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Well obviously the male loneliness crisis has reached the majority so it can be assumed that it is affecting a large chunk of the young male population. The ones who are not experiencing that will obviously be tall, handsome men. Life outcomes are strongly correlated with height and attractiveness, despite men being told otherwise. These men most likely come from wealthier, strong families and are born into a ready made network. Women have led a multiple decade long campaign of hate towards low …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:28 AM
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Well the birth rate is falling, male babies are being aborted and women becoming mothers overwhelmingly avoid male embryos so you will get your female utopia in a few generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:16 AM
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Any man who is unattractive and obviously not of high status is creepy by default. He is supposed to be invisible to a woman. If he somehow becomes visible without even interacting with a woman or being in her space, that is enough to be considered creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:13 AM
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I hear these talking points in real life. A female cousin of mine made a comment to my surprise about low value men. The line between online and offline world blended a long time ago actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:56 AM
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I agree with you. I have my own personal purpose but I don't actually care how all of this unfolds on a macro level. Inflation, climate change, war, nukes etc...... whatever, what are we actually preserving?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:54 AM
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It's reality. I spend enough time away from the internet, I don't see anything to contradict what I wrote. My views began to form in my early teens before social media, reddit etc through observation even then I knew something was wrong and that there was a vast gap between the way the world works and how I am told it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:51 AM
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There is nothing to do. The sense of belonging and community that developed as a result of the old social contracts has broken down. There is no turning back women are free and we see their true nature. Wealth accumulates at the top. If you don't have the correct looks and high enough of status you never really had a chance. Do you think 6'5 Blonde, Blue eyes guy with a trust fund is affected by all the misandry? All women have done in the 21st century is trash the most powerless, least harmful …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:47 AM
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Late Millennial and Gen Z men born after 1990 have shouldered the burdens of the sins of the past like no other generation of men before. Women are supposedly justified at their rage towards men because of lack of safety, suppression etc The Bear vs Man captured the general feeling towards men in the last 30 years. However, we are also told that we are only nice because we have covert contracts and malovelent intentions. My observation is that today everything a man does is wrong, there is no ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:31 AM
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It's not rocket science. To connect to another human being, a person needs to have a sense of self respect and love, a sense of belonging. If you have generation of men who only hear how terrible they are, you get a generation of men who don't feel worthy of connecting with anyone, male or female.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:15 AM
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Feigning ignorance, not surprised. If you can't see it, you don't want to see it. Or even worse you only acknowledge the existence of high status, attractive men who are on a pedestal and can do no wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:12 AM
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A whole generation of men have been insulted, mocked and gaslighted for existing. How do you forge genuine connections in a society that hates you? What's the incentive? It's nothing to do with the quality of the human being, the intrinsic traits. It's as simple as this if you don't look the right way or have enough status building self respect, connection and community is like pushing a boulder up a hill while it's raining glass. Modern society makes sure to remind men of how terrible, pathetic…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:52 AM
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My observation is that women do not date these types of men because of trauma, low self esteem or manipulation. That is what they want you to believe. Women are fundamentally attracted to the most violent, abusive, toxic men. I have noticed that the worst a man is, the more women love him. I have never ever seen a violent criminal struggle with women. If incels were as actually as toxic as people want you to think they would have zero problems attracting women. Physical attractiveness and active…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 01:07 AM
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As he said Red Pill is a response to female nature being unmasked. Women themselves justify the existence of the red pill with their actions. They expose every day that the juice is not worth the squeeze. Blue Pill is not new it's been the mainstream paradigm for males for decade. It's only in the last two decades that men have realized vast gap between what they are told about women and how women actually behave. Zero incentive to be couple with a woman who sees you as a settling option after s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:44 PM
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Facts. While you are on the never ending treadmill of improvement the naturally attractive men are fucking the crush who you think is in your league.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 03:44 AM
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Makes very little to no difference. If your face and bone structure don't appeal to a woman nothing else matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 03:39 AM
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I agree with how however, the men who need to see this message won't care. Which is one of the issues in the gender war. You are debating and talking at men who are willing to at least discuss these issues and concede ground but there are men who give no fucks. They will make a pass at you regardless of your outfit, interestingly these men tend to do well with women. Basically women are often shouting at the men least likely to do any harm to them. It's why I care less than I used to, why should…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:24 PM
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Women repeatedly tell unattractive men "it's your personality" "women can pick up on your energy" etc Yet curiously amoral, abusive, horrible men have zero issues attracting women. You can almost make an algorithm, the more horrible a man is in how he actually shows up in the world through his actions, the less issues he has attracting women. Yet women gaslight unattractive men, claiming women some special insight into a man which allows her to discern his true nature and intentions. The abundan…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:10 PM
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Women don't have to directly talk about intuition. When women repeatedly tell unattractive men "it's your personality" "women can pick up on your energy" etc Yet curiously amoral, abusive, horrible men have zero issues attracting women. You can almost make an algorithm, the more horrible a man is in how he actually shows up in the world through his actions, the less issues he has attracting women. Yet women gaslight unattractive men, claiming women some special insight into a man which allows he…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:09 PM
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No. I am saying "incel grade hostility" and beliefs evidently have nothing to do with attraction. Women have no special intuition into the essence of a man. If a man is physically attractive everything can about him will be rationalized to justify the attraction to him. While unattractive men are vilified to justify the repulsion towards them. Morality, beliefs, personality (Kindness, emotional intelligence etc) do not tip the scale without attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 01:39 PM
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Yet murderers like Wade Wilson still attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 02:48 AM
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Well I will repeat it, MOVE ON. You're not unique, every guy has had women who they thought was a special snowflake. The truth is that there is no special one you and only you are meant to have. The irony is that these special girls end up with guys that treat them as just another girl. You will look back and laugh at the fact you raised some girl who probably doesn't think of herself that highly onto a pedestal.
/r/seduction30/06/24 11:52 AM
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I discount all women, there are no exceptions. This is why I don't agree with being a passport bro or traditionalism. Beneath the surface the true face of female nature is always present. The best way for men to deal with women is to either walk away and completely give up dating or to continue being involved with women with ZERO expectations and selfishly putting your desires first. Also letting go of the need to be a good man, it doesn't mean anything. Be kind, hygienic, emotionally intelligen…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 11:22 PM
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One of the most pathetic posts ever made in this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 04:37 PM
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Trash take as usual. Men like you are more harmful to men than any woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 05:17 PM
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Do you believe there is someone for everyone or should some men just check out of the mating dance.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:38 PM
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What if you are getting negative vibes before you open your mouth? There was a trend on Tik Tok on women learning how to apply unapproachable make up, to increase their intimidation factor. Well what does that do? only the most aggressive men, indifferent to how comfortable another person is will approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 10:44 PM
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What is surprising here? most women find the vast majority of men repulsive even on just a platonic level, Let alone romantic level. I think men are still collectively struggling to embrace the fact that WOMEN DO NOT LIKE MEN. For a couple centuries after the industrial revolution they were forced to deal with men. What we are seeing today is their true nature. Unless you are exceptional physically, or have high status in a field relevant to women collectively, you are in the way and tolerated a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 09:05 PM
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Sorry but men like yourself take part in the gaslighting of men. As if we were just making things up about the female response to male vulnerability in 99.9% of cases. What men need to do is develop a real life inner life and become emotionally self sufficient, anything else is not to your benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 10:13 AM
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Great question the famous female intuition interestingly fails with these men. With other men the intuition is curiously fully functional and precise. My theory is that women need to justify their repulsion to unattractive men by vilifying them, due to a need to always maintain the moral high ground. So they don't dislike a guy just because they he is unattractive but because he is bad and they can somehow sense it. With the minority of men who trigger real attraction in women this intuition is …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:24 AM
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Can a man become fuckable or is it set in stone? Are some of us doomed never to be fuckable and get over that first hurdle?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 11:26 PM
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Mods have no problem with this misandry. It's funny at this point, if a male posted anything like this it would be deleted immediately. The harsh moment of truth when you realize women land isn't the land of milk & honey utopia the branding would have you believe. It's actually a bit sad and almost cultish in the choice of language. Feminist who claim to be egalitarian this is who represents you and if you don't shut this kind of rhetoric down, you are just as bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:56 PM
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I am from London but have always liked the French approach to social life in general, they/you seem to be less neurotic than people in the anglosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 07:06 PM
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My older brother was in this situation. He is/was an engineering nerd, married a beautiful women who clearly had a plan. They divorced two years after the wedding she kept the house and moved her ex into it. He had a mental breakdown and travelled the world for a few years before restarting his career and is on his second marriage with four kids now but he has a prenup.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:36 AM
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Most of us are doomed but the closer you are to the male physical ideal (tall, white) the better chance you have of luck going your way and a woman taking a chance on you. POC men with autism will struggle horribly, I have mostly given up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:32 AM
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Interesting point in your second paragraph. I recognize this tendency to self sabotage in myself. We reject ourselves, so the woman can't reject us and we can at least to pretend to preserve some self esteem. Quite toxic and sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 05:08 PM
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If men helped and did everything supposedly right it wouldn't make a difference. My hypotheses is that when women don't have artificial restrictions placed on them, they naturally dislike the vast majority of men. It has very little to do with the usefulness and morality of a man. The goalpost will always be moved in terms of defining what a good man is. So men should stop complaining but also stop caring. Unless you are very sexy, high status or a woman's celebrity crush you don't matter as a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 08:56 PM
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I agree with you, they should stop using it but for different reasons. Women don't care. You can't bargain for women to collectively care about men. As women are liberated assumptions about female nature are breaking down, perhaps they were never as nurturing and caring as we thought. They are also competitive and as as toxic as they gain more corporate power, power corrupts absolutely. Men have to build self esteem and confidence without the promise of sex and relationships. That shit was almos…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 07:25 PM
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Exactly what I thought. Since most men are undesirable and not worthy of love, doesn't this encourage polygamy. The few men able to trigger real attraction have no need to commit, so women will accept situationships and casual sex from them rather than settle. Gen Z and late millennial women I think unapologetically prefer to stay single with some casual sex instead of being with a guy they are not attracted to. I've given up hope but the challenge is maintaining a sense of purpose and drive in …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 06:58 PM
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Great honest post that us undesirable men to see. There is a lot of false hope out there. So you agree that certain men would be better off dropping out of the game entirely and finding meaning in life in other ways? I am 32 and basically my experience mirrors the OP, I cringe when I look back and realize I only ever had a chance with women I liked in my imagination. I am coming to terms with the reality I will be dying alone. Or do you believe there is someone for everyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 06:04 PM
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Better off not responding. Garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 02:24 AM
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Nope it's guys like you. Would rather men be blind. Paternity fraud is devastating for men but indoctrinated guys like you, who have their ego wrapped in being a good man need a pat on the back. Pathetic. The call for trust between the sexes is one sided, what are women's obligations to men? Since you are so fair and balanced. With emphasis what you said was trash and your retort is trash. "I weigh the societal need for them" Yet men are meant to open and be more vulnerable in a society that hat…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 12:36 AM
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Men like you are more destructive than the most vile radfems.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 11:50 PM
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This post isn't doing what you thought it would do. You still had sex with him. Should probably delete this and do some self reflection. Attraction has little to do with morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 11:00 PM
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Interesting post. If you don't mind could you expand on the idea of three different self's, it sounds vaguely Marshall Mcluhanish or something Baudrillard would write.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:50 PM
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This is incredible. Will have to re-read multiple times, to take it in. These birds eye perspectives are what these discussions need more.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 06:38 PM
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Insightful response, I recognize some truth in what you write. Any clues to how you change the underlying assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 03:13 PM
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Male posters are on a constant tightrope here, while the women can shitpost, insult, gaslight etc as much as they wish.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 02:12 PM
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Pathetic post, mods who supposedly care about the state of this subreddit allow garbage like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 10:52 AM
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Any woman who wants a man can get a man it's that simple. There is a lid for every pot in the case of women, while the same absolutely cannot be said for men. There are no pre-conditions for any woman to get some man. Men don't prefer female offenders in anyway comparable to the way women prefer dangerous, violent men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:00 PM
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It's not just some women. I am actually happy that we get to see on social media the sheer hatred of men who are not high status or attractive. The mask has slipped god forbid you are a regular man who happens to breathe the same air as a goddess. Complete avoidance is the only way to deal with the vast majority of women, if a woman sits next to me on the train, I get up and move. Don't want to be scolded and given a social media hanging for having the audacity to exist. I say good luck on this …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:54 PM
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5 years ago I would say you're right but in the last 18 months the mask has slipped it's not a minority anymore. Even the most reasonable among you hate us. Men are simply reacting, if it was just words women on other dating subreddits would not be asking why they never get approached. Instead of responding to me you should be talking to other women and challenging their views .
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:48 PM
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Until a guy does that and is told he is entitled for daring to talk to a woman. Men are making the right decision by not approaching, can't be a toxic creature if you are not bothering anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 12:36 PM
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Women today have spoken loud and clear, you all want to be left alone. We have listened. Unless you are her celebrity crush or close in looks, they are not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 12:34 PM
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I don't see why redpill men push this stuff. We get to see women's true colours todays, isn't that preferable to forcing them into a traditionalism that they clearly hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:11 PM
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Exactly, it's the least I could do. I also actually support the progress of women, I wouldn't roll back the clock on any of their advancements but nature has given me a disability, terrible eyesight, autism and abusive parents. Women cannot mask their disgust in interacting with me, so they shouldn't have to. I try to avoid them as much as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 04:44 PM
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I leave them alone, keep my head down and keep a wide berth.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 04:20 PM
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The hilarious vilification of nice men continues, the goal post will always be moved to justify this vilification.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 06:16 PM
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There is power in victimhood, the oppressed is often more powerful than the perceived oppressor. A western women my age or younger born in the 90s arguably has unprecedented freedom and privilege. My theory is that women will complain in any situation, give them the garden of eden and they will find a reason to hate it.. If there were actually zero violent, bad men on earth we would see very little change in their sense of injustice and hatred of men, it's just their modus operandi.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 09:25 AM
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It's 1 keep burying your head in the sand if you want. A few men monopolize women in harems, while the women think they are in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 09:17 AM
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Women have a need to vilify unattractive men regardless of the actual quality of the person. They treat unattractive men like a pathogen that must be isolated and eradicated. Be a good person for yourself not women or don't care at all, throw morality out of the window. I am a big fan of Werner Herzog and his films with Klaus Kinski. I read up on Klaus Kinski's life and wow, he was a Nazi, abused women and young girls just an all round terrible, violent person for all of his life. Almost everyth…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 03:12 PM
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Pathetic point, just accept anything because of an exception like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 03:58 PM
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Are women cordial with men who have done nothing to them? Absolutely not. Active vitriol towards men is actively supported. "Kill All Men" "Men Are Trash" How lovely and this climate of misandry is supposed to invite well meaning, sincere men. Actually seems that the nicer you are regardless of your intentions, the more it triggers women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 08:48 PM
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So why all the fuss about guys not committing? Are men only needed to scratch an itch? Or do they deep down want to secure commitment from the few attractive men but know they can't so compensate with situationships? What I don't understand is unattractive men receiving so much vitriol when they are not dating anyone. If women are happy alone they have a funny way of showing it. Seems to be nothing but negativity on social media, single or not. My hypothesis is that women are never happy regardl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 08:30 PM
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Does self reflection enter at any point for women or is it always someone's fault. Creating stability for themselves while still receiving Chad's dick on the side, hence the emergence of the term sneaky link. Like I said zero incentive to be a good man, maybe it's better if the sexes stayed apart, ignorance is bliss.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 06:53 PM
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It's not an assumption, it's an observation. If women wanted kind, emotionally available men the world would be a completely different place. Modern romance is women reconciling their attraction to the most high status and/or attractive men who have too many options to really care about losing a woman with the need for stability and balance. Might be slightly off topic but answer me this why is the lesbian divorce rate much higher than for their male queer counterpart? Maybe a more honest conver…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 06:23 PM
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Don't even know what to add facts from paragraph to paragraph. Men respond to incentives, in the current climate the actions of women speak loud and clear. At least toxic asshole gets his foot in the door and has experiences to make mistakes and even potentially learn. Average guys are just left out in the cold and gaslighted about horrible and entitled they are, how are men who have never even been alone with a woman causing so trauma? Why does famous feminine intuition that allows you to disce…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 05:28 PM
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All women seek the bad boy, it's not just the so called trashy types.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 05:23 PM
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I will my delete my comment but you are such a one sided moderator. The women get away with anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 05:17 PM
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It depends if he is obviously powerful and high status. If he's just a pretty boy, no that is not threatening. However, if a Michael Morrone type walks into a room and you become invisible as women have that rare primal response to a man's mere presence then it could be another jab to one's already low self esteem. You know you will never ever experience desire even close to that. Men in that position usually don't hate the man in that position in the way I've seen women struggle to hide their d…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 04:39 PM
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The point is he could get women to want to sleep with him in the first place. Most men can't get beyond that hurdle, the poly dude you know is doing better than most at least he might be able to learn something eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 11:57 AM
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Men would become monks and reclusive artist again and we would have a new renaissance. There are Isaac Newton's and Michelangelo's in some of these incels if they would just divert their focus. I don't think men being self validating would change dating as much as you think. Women just aren't that interested in men; good men, bad men, smart men, good looking, rich etc....A very particular combination of looks, status and masculinity specific to each women triggers that real desire for a specific…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 06:23 PM
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If everything you say is true it incentives men to focus on sex and make sure they are not one of the repulsive, inexperienced failed men. Eventually this leads to an imbalance where a few men have the vast majority of the experience and no reason to commit. If a 20 year old average male reads what you just wrote, what conclusions do you think he will draw, what internet subcultures will he be drawn to? Great example of how the exclusion and vilification of unattractive men leads them to the man…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 10:23 AM
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It's interesting that in the safest most egalitarian countries (Scandinavia, Netherlands) where women have complete freedom and very little to worry about, the passive aggressive hatred for men is still present. I have come to the conclusion that women have an innate disgust towards most men, if you are not her celebrity crush, her actual boss or the top 1% attractive men you are tolerated or invisible at best. If one day we woke up and there was no femicide or sexual assault at all, ZERO. I don…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 04:53 PM
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Excellent post.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 04:41 PM
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I think it's in between they don't resent women in the way incels do but they certainly don't love them. What I have noticed with the most sexually successful men is that they have a casual indifference to women and don't really take them seriously. They have probably been getting attention from a young age, triggering a feedback loop which means they have to do little to no work to get laid. These men also see the true nature of women which can cause you to become jaded.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 04:16 AM
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Actual toxic men are having zero problems. Unattractive men on the sidelines are paralyzed by fear due to being blamed for the actions of a minority. Most young men won't get anywhere near a woman but have to hear how awful men are in relationships. Well how did these awful men surpass the mystical feminine intuition, that can see into the toxic soul any man? Morality, kindness, intelligence, emotional maturity all have nothing to do with romantic/sexual success. They are arguably detriments unf…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:47 PM
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society isn't ready to talk about the true nature of female desire. Contrary to what men are being told, the more amoral you are as a man the more romantically/sexually abundant you will be. If unattractive men were actually as terrible as claimed they would ironically be successful with women, being a good person means nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:31 PM
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Women respond well to playfulness. I have noticed when I make a witty remark with good timing, you can see the woman's guard drop a little bit. Humour does not always lead to sex or relationships but it triggers a positive disposition to you. Also humour is contextual, what works in one social circle does not work in another.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 03:36 PM
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The things that made being an average man worth it in the first half of the 20th century have been eroded rapidly and like the economy, the dating market has become winner takes all. The average girl in your hometown would rather take her chances with the 1% guy. The way men are behaving is actually very logical apart from the whining, since complaining won't change anything. Your future wife is probably trying to secure commitment from some guy either high status or incredibly good looking. You…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:03 PM
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I agree. Men all over the internet whining and moaning for nothing. Women are free and it is clear they resent the vast majority of us. If you are not some Tik Tok pretty boy or her celebrity crush you are either invisible or tolerated at best. Low key despite the pessimism around the plight of men, it's a great time for men to actually recalibrate and find purpose outside of women and sex. You can't deny your desires but I cringe when I see men arguing that dating should be fairer and women sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 05:32 PM
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I don't know what it is about the Netherlands but people there seem to collectively have a higher amount of self awareness and more pragmatism.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 12:06 AM
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How can I become one of these guys instead of safe marriage guy? Do these men share common physical traits, dominant personality etc do they come on strong or take their time?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 12:04 AM
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Fact for women. As a man you get up and make things happen, nothing will fall in your lap. If you were THAT guy who doesn't need to look you would know.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 11:34 PM
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Wisdom does not automatically come with age it is something actively earned through honest reflection on your experiences. Many people of all ages struggle with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 11:31 PM
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It's not the job of men to uphold these virtues and have made their choice clean they do not care for these qualities. Please tell me what does a man gain, are you coming at this from some Eastern philosophy Buddhism etc type of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 12:15 AM
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You would probably feel no spark if you came across that guy the dating subreddits are full of women who don't understand why they are not attracted to the kind, sensitive guy who treats them well. So those guys are either checking out or modelling the behaviour of the bad boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 11:53 PM
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Garbage, morality and virtue mean little in this world.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 11:50 PM
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In my experience about 1% at best. This is from living a major city, dealing with people from all walks of life, race, education background etc. Women are just showing their true nature now that the shackles are almost completely off in the west. A time machine to the 50's or any other mythical time with kind, gentle submissive women won't save you. Being a passport bro won't save you. Men have to deal with female nature as it is. They want complete freedom without judgement, accountability and …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:11 PM
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It's true in today's world self reliance and rational self interest makes the most sense for men. Politically naturally I am a strong liberal in terms of my ideal society but an objective understanding of human nature and the general climate today makes a more objectivist approach to life seem the best option. I would love to be a kind, loving person but it gets thrown in your face and you actually get blamed for the faults of other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 12:37 AM
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Useless post as usual.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 06:45 PM
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Women have no special intuition for misogyny, this myth actually harms women more than anything. Curiously the most abusive, violent men have no issues attracting women, what happens to their intuition when it comes to these men. Raw attraction has nothing to do with being a good person, women will rationalize why they like the guys they do, they can abuse a minor and they will still see a sweetheart. It is what it is. What you wrote is a tired narrative that nobody believes anymore. Even women …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 10:18 PM
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Nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 03:59 PM
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LOL Diogyenespill, I am using that but seriously that might be the best answer for many men. Completely letting go, becoming monks or complete dedication in that late middle ages way to an art or area of study. Much better than numbing yourself on drugs, games and porn although I understand why young men succumb to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 04:32 PM
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Stop flirting with me
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 04:09 PM
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Isn't it the same with women. For example, when they like a nerdy guy it's just generic tall attractive man who wears glasses and likes anime, video games etc...?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:18 AM
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Redheads are a big niche; Thick women, Tall Amazon women, Lactation adult breastfeeding has exploded to the point there was a documentary on it in the UK. The point is men like everything. I probably fancy more 40+ women of all shapes and sizes at the moment than any generic young slim baddie or bombshell.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:52 PM
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BBW Porn has exploded, I don't want to even get into the rabbit hole that is BBC and GILF. You are seriously underestimating the variety of the male desire. Women have to believe me are all looking at slim barely legal porn because it's another brick on the modern "men bad waaaa! " paradigm we live in. Younger porn stars have even spoke about getting less attention until they reach MILF status or develop some thickness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:47 PM
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This is based on an outdated view of porn. All types of bodies and figures are represented. Gen Z, late millennial men are not unanimously fantasizing about busty blonde bombshells. Actually more homely looking women are popular because they are perceived to be attainable. Most men know they are not getting anywhere near a Kayden Kross type.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 05:25 PM
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I don't know about the blue collar thing but Tall Tattooed Bearded is basically the generic type of most women in 2023.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 04:20 PM
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Nothing horrifying about stating that the men harming women are surprise actually around women. The men hated on ppd are for the most part not in the vicinity of any women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 01:31 AM
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I guess this is the kind of punching down that is perfectly fine here now. Ideologically possessed mods won't ban you for making this post but the last sentence is pathetic and says more about you. The type of men who are obsessed with the truth as you say here on ppd are statistically unlikely to be the men actually harming women, since you need to be around women regularly to harm them. As usual women have very little to say about the men actually abusing them, lying to them etc I have actuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 01:05 AM
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I think this might be the correct answer. It seems there is right way to behave with a woman in a relationship anything you do can end the relationship. I don't believe women are monogamous. The anomaly of the industrial revolution created conditions where being a wife was the best they could aspire to, as soon as they got organized they rebelled. No incentive to marry as a man today if you understand female nature. Either be a fuckboy or go MGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 03:29 PM
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I see handsome in 2023 as meaning you are aggressively inoffensive, which is a high bar in our fallen world. If a woman calls you sexy to your face the whole vibe is different, sexy is reserved for the rare men who trigger real desire. Many men don't believe the latter exist because they have never seen or experienced it. I think an average dude with charisma would still need high status to date attractive women. The hottest women I know are rarely dating these godlike flawless Chad's, more ofte…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 02:24 AM
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Most men have low standards On reddit they will talk that talk but single, fat, high n count women over 30 are not struggling on the streets. However all those things together would probably decrease a woman's options. Yes men are increasingly resentful of women. I believe you have cause and effect mixed up. A late millennial/gen z man born and raised in the west has grown up with the most liberated, educated generation of women ever. Most men start out with good intentions while obviously being…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 01:40 AM
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I agree with you. Interesting to see a blackpilled woman. Not surprised your Slavic, I have met slavic women in London and brutal honesty seems to be a feature. Men are definitely being lied to, we should improve for ourselves but with zero expectations. Men should actually like this it is actually liberating and a more honest time to live in By the time you are in your mid to late 20s a man you should know where you naturally stand with women without money, career etc. Some men naturally attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 03:14 PM
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I feel like this was typed with a certain glee. "Nobody likes you undesirables, hehe". What is the aim here? Unattractive men know they are not attractive. They know they are unsexy, unlovable, unlikeable, not worthy admiration. What do you get out of typing this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 05:59 PM
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Their intuition is perfect and precise when it comes to unattractive men, they can see straight through his soul to his very essence and read his intentions. When it comes to the most attractive, high status, dangerous men this intuition is suspiciously defunct, suddenly it's "he was nice at first", "he tricked me". Through the need to conceal the true amoral nature of female desire in our complicated modern social environment, women have adopted the strategy of vilifying the most harmless men. …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 12:34 AM
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I agree with you my observations and experiences increasingly lead me to believe that Dark Triad is essential in triggering female desire. Some have more self control and awareness than others but the internal wiring is the same I grew up around drug dealers and criminals of all kinds, I have never seen actual horrible, abusive, amoral men have an issue attracting women. Hygiene, virtue, social skills etc don't seem to matter with these kinds of men and professional women from good homes are suc…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 10:27 PM
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Your hesitancy and anxiety is a self sorting device for women. Inside they are saying "NEXT". They expect you to just read the situation perfectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 06:19 PM
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Well I am definitely tortured.... sigh. I don't feel I could ever pull off metalhead, rugged bad boy or any of the others. I've noticed that the men who do well on social media in terms of general engagement not just attracting women, have a niche that expresses. A lack of some clear identity just blends you into the sea of unremarkable men unless you are incredibly attractive which then belongs an identity unto itself. So dark academia it is. I think Samuel Beckett might be a good model for thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 11:17 AM
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Thanks for responding. Funnily enough, just this summer I got into making Pinterest vision boards for other stuff, so you may be onto something. What do you think about the Ivy League look is that kind of the same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 05:13 AM
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I feel I am naturally closest to Literature Dark Academia guy. Any tips on how to really lean into this archetype and make the most out of it, ladies and gents?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 02:48 AM
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Yes I have been reading some Oswald Spengler. Civilizations have a Spring, Summer, Fall and Winter. A kind of life cycle, when a civilization is in it's winter the people commit suicide collectively, they give up on the civilization by not mating and not really caring about anything on a macro level. Hedonism and Nihilism reigns supreme, you can see the beating heart of the death instinct everywhere in Film, literature, politics, public discourse and most prominently in the realm of dating and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 02:44 AM
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Chads living like Ottoman Empire Sultans out here. I think it's slowly becoming normalized that you have to share the most attractive men. Funny whenever this comes up women use the age gap argument to cover their tracks, yet in conversations about age-gaps all older men are unattractive and have hit the wall. The numbers can't be explained by age-gaps alone, WOMEN ARE SHARING THE MOST ATTRACTIVE MEN. You can even see this in the numerous dating subreddits which together have millions of members…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 05:40 PM
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Stats say that it is non white women who desire white men. Non white men prefer women of their own race, very different from the dominant narrative being pushed. I suspect this is intentional, can't have women seeming to discriminate on race as the most important characteristic as the more noble sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 06:03 PM
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I agree OP life is not fair, there is no justice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:37 AM
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In other words close your eyes and cover your ears men, you were not meant to see, hear and observe all of this. Men should remain ignorant of the truth right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 06:33 PM
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Open polygamy. Orgies in public, the full english of events that all crumbling empires go through.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 04:39 PM
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I think many men build themselves up with a false bravado but you can tell they don't even believe it. True confidence is rare. Most men I know of all backgrounds have average to below average self esteem and don't think they deserve much. I also suspect late millennial and gen z men are the least confident generation of men, how can we not be unless you are some trending rich pretty boy you are considered complete trash and to be tolerated at best. I've detached myself from material things. I s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 12:17 PM
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Yeah it's something I have accepted. I now assume my presence is not wanted and never initiate conversations and make sure to keep a distance. Unfortunately I don't think most men can leave women alone, for a lot of men it's an ego thing they've built their self worth around being able to attract women, they still don't get it. Hopefully men are too sedated with porn, technology and drugs to lash out on a wide scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 08:24 AM
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I agree with you, I think men should stop complaining and retreat as I have. Zero complaints about what you said, men should shut up and stop complaining and find validation within. Men are wasting their time, spinning in circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 01:57 AM
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Yes modernity has ripped off the mask of our respective true nature and it's clear men and women cannot cooperate. I have had a feeling since childhood that women really dislike males and only tolerate most of us at best, unless your in a boy band or something. I feel like most men are wasting their time, the battle is over. Once I reach a certain financial level, I plan to retreat completely go off the grid in northern Canada or western Australia and live out my days in silence studying, medita…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 10:58 PM
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Juice is not worth the squeeze even if you are attractive. Men should retreat and become monks, dedicate themselves to art and scientific inquiry like late medieval hermits.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 06:07 PM
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The more attractive you are the less it matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 05:16 PM
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Most prolific child murderer in the UK is a blonde english women as of this week.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 10:31 PM
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Go into more detail how can we be more like the 20% guys, give it to me raw. So be aloof, openly pursue sex without promise of a relationship, suggest you may want something more without actually taking that step?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 04:23 PM
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If they ever break up, the women holding up Russell as an example will immediately turn on him and make him a villain, regardless of the cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 03:42 AM
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Don't want to get into it because I will be banned. I will just say I have three older brothers, the oldest is a Russell type; high achiever, emotionally intelligent, responsible, great guy.... treated horribly by his first wife. The guys who are great on paper often are means to an end. It's the future types who a woman like Ciara really desires. I know you'll disagree but that's just how I see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 11:30 PM
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He's a great guy but I would never want to be him and share the dynamic he has with Ciara. It is what it is. Again you are trolling and using this topic as bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 11:01 PM
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It's a big turn off especially with the rampant Sagittarius male discrimination.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:23 AM
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Just a music video. Taylor Swift had a black interest in a music video, she has never been seen or linked with a black man in real life. Also despite black men having low SMV in Asia black culture and asian culture seem to have a mutual fascination with each other. Fascination is very different from attraction. White people loved Jazz has it was emerging in the early 20th century at the same time as this thing called Jim Crow.
/r/AllPillDebate10/08/23 10:17 PM
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Taxi Driver, The Conversation, The Master, Marty, Citizen Kane, A Serious Man
/r/AllPillDebate03/08/23 03:26 PM
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I doubt you have the answers and I think you might be trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 07:18 PM
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Nothing you wrote has anything to do with attraction and getting your foot in the door unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 06:52 PM
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What's the name of her channel?
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 04:56 PM
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This myth of some special female intuition actually hurts women.
/r/AllPillDebate18/07/23 06:04 PM
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This is one of the worst red pill myths. You can have a conversation about decreasing fertility, that is fair. However the idea that women peak at 25 is ludicrous. Unless you have absolutely trashed yourself and did no self-care in your 20s you should go into your 30s with more confidence, poise and style. I'm probably one of the more cynical posters on this subreddit, I have a very bleak uncomfortable view of human nature and honestly women but I wish red pillers would stop talking about the 'w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 03:55 PM
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At the end of the movie he gets a girl but we know better, it doesn't end like that for most especially in the 21st century.
/r/AllPillDebate30/06/23 01:14 AM
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I'm sure they slept with him for his progressive views, great personality, virtue and work in the community.
/r/AllPillDebate29/06/23 10:42 PM
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I don't want a submissive woman because I don't trust it. The whole trad wife movement is creepy to me, it just comes across as parasites adjusting to secure their position in this late capitalist world. If women were naturally submissive, men wouldn't have to create artificial barriers to keep them in check. A lot of men are shooting themselves in the foot with this whole submissive thing they are creating another weapon to be used against them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 05:18 PM
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Japan is always ahead of the rest of the world in socioeconomic trends. Japan has a brutal corporate culture, so time is an issue. However, looking at the disparity in dating numbers between men and women there it's obvious the same rule applies as it does in the west. A small minority of men monopolize ALL the women. The men who actually get to date are not outstanding pillars of society, with progressive views and perfect personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 05:14 PM
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You're right being toxic has nothing to do with how successful you are romantically and sexually. If some of these incels were actually toxic, they would have no problems. The problem they have is being physically unattractive with no status, visible anxiety and obvious lack of self esteem. Absolutely nothing to do with how progressive and moral they are, it's gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 03:05 PM
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He's doing better than most men, if he cared he would stop cheating, he's obviously getting his needs met. Reminds me of West Elm Caleb dragged that man across the internet but probably increased interest in him tenfold, I would put money on some of the women who made Tik Toks about him going back for seconds. Uncomfortable reality is young men are incentivized to be players. No young man looks at these type of situations and says "how dare he, I would never behave like that", they say "damn how…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:38 AM
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He will have no trouble finding a partner, being a good honest man means nothing. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:10 AM
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Outing a man as a cheater does nothing to harm his reputation. Cheaters always have women to cheat with or they wouldn't be cheaters.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:01 AM
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Yet they actually create free advertising for those men. Those men will only attract more women, it's hilarious that women don't see this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:52 AM
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More information does not equal more access and opportunity. The increase in information coincided with the increase of female freedom. Women are economically and culturally free to be who they want to be and make their own choices, without the old social pressure's it's clear they are only genuinely attracted to a very small number of men. For most of human history most men died alone without mating or even touching a woman. That very specific blip in history between the industrial revolution a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:56 PM
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You're right, men with few options are stuck in a vicious cycle. Difficult to get out of it. Occasionally the universe will throw you a bone, in the form of an attractive woman your age who is showing interesting and taking initiative but when you have no positive experiences to reference, lack confidence and self esteem, you can only think about what could go wrong and before you know it the opportunity is gone and you are wondering what happened. This cycle of failure is a major part of the re…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:33 AM
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Yes. The attraction growing over time thing does not work in my experience. As a man filter for the women who immediately respond to your presence, they most likely exist although in smaller numbers than for the most attractive guys. Night and day difference in treatment when a woman is immediately attracted to you, the interaction is smoother, you don't feel like you are pulling teeth to get to know her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:18 PM
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100% agreed. Women don't realize that their duplicity encourages regular men to take a fuckboy approach because it's the only way to discern if any real desire is present.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:10 PM
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I would prefer to be never wanted. Would rather jump out of a skyscraper than be the "you're good enough for me now" guy. Disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 09:42 PM
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Scandinavia has a relatively high birth rate compared to east asia and western europe and it's a minority of men having almost all of the children. Won't address my other points, typical. When you create a narrative that the majority of men are ugly, trash and not needed what incentive does that give to the small number of worthy men to settle down and actually become good fathers and nurture stable families? Your arguments against deadbeat dads are surface level, you won't dare look into the tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:30 PM
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You do not have an argument and you do not want to see what is inconvenient for you and team women to see. There shall be no accountability for the fairer sex, what a wonderful world that is creating, even the most stable women friendly countries in Scandinavia are falling into the same lopsided patterns. Sure nothing to see here, carry on wagging your finger at men who will most likely never even come close to impregnating a woman. Present stats and you will say they are wrong, present anecdote…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:21 PM
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Attractive men have the most kids period. In the black community all the kids are being made by a minority of men, yet regular black men are painted with the same deadbeat brush. The same is actually happening in Scandinavia a handful of men have most of the children. Again, I will ask if women are so intuitive, so great at knowing which men to avoid why are they are so bad at choosing the men they actually mate with. You can't say those men start off nice then change. Why does the superpower th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:14 PM
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The average man absolutely has to ornate himself. Most men are not naturally attractive, men are increasingly realizing that money, status and personality do not trigger real desire in women so they are destroying their legs, getting leg-lengthening surgery to get taller. Plastic surgery has exploded for men, they are changing their Jawlines, bleaching their skin, having penis injections all in the name of emulating the men who naturally attract women. What an ignorant post, a man has to be perf…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:59 PM
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The vast majority of men don't get to mate, so the question is why are women picking these men. What happened to the the super intuition that allows women to immediately know if a man is toxic or trash. They seem to be able to instantly figure out the apparently horrible intentions of unattractive men, thus never giving them a chance. Yet, this intuition doesn't work with the attractive men who actually end up impregnating them, do you not see how silly this sounds, you must step out of your sol…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:50 PM
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Money can't save you. If you didn't attract women naturally the first quarter of your life any relationships built afterwards when you have found some career and material success will not be based on real desire. Sadly, it seems many men actually accept that a woman will never desire them and don't mind these arrangements. I would rather be crucified over an active volcano than be used for resources and provisioning. The thought makes me sick. If you are one of those guys dedicate your life to a…
/r/AllPillDebate24/06/23 07:00 PM
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How does that explain “Are We Dating the Same Guy” groups and terrible men who seems to leave a trail of damaged women. The mating is dance is largely amoral an uncomfortable truth. Being a good, kind person means very little.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:56 PM
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LOL Women rebranding being part of Chad's rotation into something more noble and progressive, you have to laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 10:29 AM
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Loving or hating is not even close to being the deciding factor to whether a man will die alone. Many great guys who love women will die alone actually most most throughout human history have died without touching a woman regardless of their personality, accomplishments etc Actually if a man truly hated women and acted it in a sick irony he would almost certainly mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 11:06 PM
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Myth that is only the party girls. The library girl and quiet plain girl next door are also getting banged and discarded by Chad. Silly myth that it is only a certain type of girl who behaves like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:10 PM
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Sapiosexual = Chad who once read a book
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 09:00 AM
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The usual lies and gaslighting
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:58 AM
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Great post, even neurotypical men could learn from these points.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 11:50 AM
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I never see this in real life not to invalidate anybody's experiences but.......
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 12:14 AM
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That is not what I am seeing. I do indeed think there is more of a balance her than other subreddits but an exact 50-50 balance is almost impossible. The exact same post could be made about Blue Pill posting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 12:12 AM
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Attraction for women is slightly more complicated and subtle for women than it is for men. All the cliched qualities; Intelligence, kindness, emotionally available, vulnerable, responsible etc However in my own experience the triggering of pure primal desire is more straightforward; Status, Power and looks. A very small percentage of men are universally attractive, they can get any women at anytime. These guys are rare. Status seems to be an aphrodisiac, celebrity men don't have to jump through …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 10:56 PM
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I grew up with a few professional athletes and some famous rappers. So I saw how they were treated pre-fame and post fame. Night and day difference to the point they were overwhelmed, all the stuff men are told about attracting women; be kind, respectful, patient, etc go outside of the window. Grown women in stable careers and relationships willing to throw everything away for a night. More bookish introverted women in my social girl, who have a reputation of being hard to get and not taking par…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 10:09 PM
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Great post and explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 10:01 PM
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It's just nature, women are not bad people. Women have more freedom today, more freedom means more opportunity to be the best and worse versions of yourself. I also think the unwritten social contract is falling apart and society has taken a Hobbesian turn "the war of all against all" there is always an undercurrent of this in most civilizations but it is expressed more overtly when a civilization is on the decline. The discussion around mating and patterns of behaviour could do with more honest…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 07:31 PM
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I agree with you OP. I think most people want unattractive men to just shut up and go away. Life is fragile, tomorrow is not guaranteed. In my early 20's I had friends killed, die of cancer etc Pay close attention to the way undesirable men are spoken to, there is always an undercurrent of venom and hate. The men who actually get laid and break hearts don't get nearly as much venom, calling a young man "fuckboy" only attracts more women to him. My advice to young men is to simply set aside your …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 05:45 PM
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Only people paired off in my social group are very religious everyone else is perpetually single or in situationships. I live in London, I don't see many couples around actually an interesting observation is that the couples I do see are usually immigrants.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 11:14 PM
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Most men are not even thinking about 7/10 let alone 10.10 women, you learn as a man very quickly your place on the totem pole. I also actually disagree with Red pillers who think that as they age their money, status and experience allows them to attract the hottest women. There has been a shift in red pill content where men are admitting these things do not matter if you are not attractive. Men are just trying to talk to the girl across the street or at the library, the women they feel they shou…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 11:05 PM
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Well Late Millennials & Gen Z are not marrying as much. Women of these generations proudly state they don't have to be with average men anymore. I am a late millennial and I don't see these unattractive to ugly as you call it husbands and boyfriends in every store and public space. I think the married unattractive to ugly man being married or in a relationships is dying out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 11:01 PM
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It's not superficial but the gaslighting of men has led to a backlash. Perfectly normal men with great careers, hobbies, social lives, emotional maturity are told something is wrong with them or that women can sense that there is something off about them, when the blunt truth is that they are not sexy enough and women care about looks as much as if not more than men. You often hear women repeat looks get you in the door but personality keeps you around. Well most men don't reach the attraction t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 10:15 PM
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It's true it's a myth that it gets easier, maybe once upon a time that was true but not now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:05 PM
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Can't discuss dating today without discussing the reality of race. Keeping our heads in sand helps nobody.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 05:14 PM
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There is an elephant in the room you left out. Women of all races overwhelmingly prefer white men. Uncomfortable truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 04:37 PM
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Women are the ones with options. They choose, if only they could use that intuitive superpower they all claim to have that only seems to work on sussing out the intentions of unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 03:36 PM
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Women can do creepy things but they have to be very extreme to be labelled as creepy by society. I have been groped multiple times and women have made jokes about getting me drunk to r*** me but people laughed and being a big, imposing guy I can never be a victim in the eyes of society. So women get away with a lot. Power corrupts absolutely regardless of gender. So you also see female CEO's, teachers, successful artist etc abusing their power more as they increasingly gain access to positions o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:08 PM
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A very specific type of Black Man does well with women. The average black man is doesn't do well at all. Basically if you are not a tall white man dating is a real challenge, just getting your foot in the door but tall white men live in a different world romantically all of the things that men need to do; be kind, emotionally mature, have hobbies, not be aggressive etc don't matter for them. It's an uncomfortable reality and the true reality of dating today really can't be spoken about as long a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:54 PM
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Understandable assumption but no I also don't believe what men report. Quantitive data on JUST sexual activity is not reliable men will exaggerate, women will under report. Think of the other ways we get data on the sex lives of people, pregnancy data and STD data. If a baby is born there no ambiguity there because you have the product of the activity. If you have a sexually transmitted disease the data is recorded. If you just ask a person have you had sex recently, how do you verify that infor…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 12:21 AM
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Chris is not a red pill creator, he occasionally interviews red pill adjacent guys. That is one data set. I also don't believe what women report generally, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 10:35 PM
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Vast majority of men have zero access to a bimbo at any stage in their life, the comparison does not hold. Most women will get with a douchebag. There is no skill in attaining sex as a woman, it doesn't tell me anything about a women that she is able to have sex. Whether a man does or does not get laid tells you a lot about his status, charm and physical attractiveness. If a man gets called a douchebag he is doing something right, he has something women want regardless of what they call him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 07:31 PM
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An average moral, positive, constructive man has to jump through extra hoops that a criminal doesn't know exist. Women don't have to literally line up outside a supermax prison, I understand you are exaggerating to emphasize your skepticism but my thesis is that all women are aroused by a certain kind of man but some for numerous reasons usually environmental are able to suppress this desire. Also rich hot women have an image to uphold, so it's not going to be as flagrant as you describe. Many a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:02 PM
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Big assumption that every man has even a single woman interested in him, many don't and there is nobody to blame. Porn is an affect not a cause. The homely girl next door or in the library is just as indifferent to her average/below-average counterpart as the instagram model, there is little difference. Like I said many men will need to find alternative outlets, and if they really lean into their inner lives can find avenues of satisfaction they never knew existed but they have to let go of soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 05:42 PM
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I agree, I've experienced it. If average or below average men were actually the horrible people mainstream zeitgeist wants us to believe they are, they would actually be getting laid. I don't have the studies close to me or bookmarked but don't men in prison or with a criminal history have more children over their lifespan than men with zero criminal history. In my personal life I have many childhood friends with criminal background who are in and out of prison; drug dealing, armed robbery, exto…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 04:38 PM
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Yes, in my experience there is a VAST gap in what women say they are attracted to and what actually triggers desire. This should not make men resent women, they are not evil or intentionally deceitful but the arch of human evolution has created a paradox where the old brain is fighting the new brain. The traits women evolved to desire were nurtured in a harsh, dangerous epoch the hardwiring embedded from the early experiences of humans now exist in an environment of enormous relative safety and …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 04:20 PM
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I agree OP "stop bothering women and work on yourself the right will come along one day" is absolutely terrible advice. Life is not fair, there is not someone for everyone, not even close. Mortality is very fragile, I know a guy who died in his mid 20's a virgin, sudden cancer diagnosis and dead 9 months later. Either pursue your desires relentlessly NOW or really get to know yourself, develop a strong inner, focus on art etc Many men today will need to find alternative outlets. The platitudes a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 04:14 PM
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Yes absolutely, I was just giving a very long winded big picture version of "touch grass" LOL or REALLY get to know yourself and make your inner life a priority, which may be the best many men today can hope for.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 05:18 AM
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I think maybe people would get out more but romantically I think something deeper is going on beyond the apps. Even in Scandinavian countries; statistically the happiest, healthiest countries, stable economies, strong outdoor culture, complete equality between the genders, very safe for women etc The same dynamic is taking place as in the anglosphere, east asia and western europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 05:11 AM
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True if you type in FWB in the search reddit bar probably get hundreds of questions a week asking about the the FWB dynamic in various subreddits. Men are being told to patiently date traditionally while their counterparts are engaged in personal soap operas sometimes lasting for years. By the time the women are free to give a guy a chance they are too jaded and guarded, vicious cycle for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 05:02 AM
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I share your sentiment but I think if online dating disappeared tomorrow nothing would change because a certain dynamic has become embedded among late millennials & Gen Z. It will be interesting to see how the alpha generation responds to all this, I feel like their Gen Z older siblings and late millennial parents have been an experiment of which they will be the product and answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 04:58 AM
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I would say maybe 60-40 I think women marginally ask more questions than men on these subreddits and get more engagement. If a question only has none or a handful of replies, it's a man asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 04:52 AM
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I would say 50-60% had sex. Men, young men especially will exaggerate the amount of sex they are having and of that 50-60 the majority of that is not regular sex. It seems far fetched but I think the scale of sexlessness is underestimated because society doesn't really want to see it or deal with and there are no real solutions on a macro scale. Anecdotally, thinking back to my university years 2011-2014 plus another 2 years for grad school. You had some guys in relationships, a large chunk of g…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 04:49 AM
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Way more than people think. r/dating & r/dating_advice together have millions of members. The most common question from women seem to be some variation of "how can I get my FWB to commit", "tired of fuckboys, are there decent good men out there?" etc most common questions from men by a landslide are some variation of "how can I just get a date?", "what's wrong with me? I have friends, hobbies, hygiene etc", "where is it ok to approach?" So obviously there is a disconnect because men are simply t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 04:38 AM
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Life is not a fairy tale especially for men today. If you get into your 20's NOTHING happening, that is a worrying sign. I don't believe in destined fatalism i.e you are destined to be forever alone from birth but each human is a universe unto itself figuratively speaking, with a life pattern and rhythm/cadence specific only to them and if you are self aware enough and object you can intuit the most likely outcomes for you in different areas of life. What people call luck, I call randomness. Ima…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 04:25 AM
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Increasingly, yes. 30 from a major city, most men I know get nothing. They are not on reddit or forums, or in mums basement. Regular men with jobs, education, interesting lives, diverse friendship groups who just don't have it and silently persist without any love life. Mainstream society will never talk seriously about this issue until it moves past the entitled, emotionally mature man-child in his mother's basement trope. There are forever alone types all around you, who you would never suspec…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 04:05 AM
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The couple of centuries we had of men and women mating monogamously were caused by unnatural conditions that were always going to be unsustainable. Women fought to relinquish restrictions placed on them, elite men saw the benefits for those already at the top and here we are. This is the mating game when women have a choice and we better get used to it because barring complete catastrophe the genie is not going back into the bottle. Like you said men need to find other avenues for happiness; Art…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 03:41 AM
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Seems to be the case along with a missing shared social collective narrative that everyone can buy into. Society is very dissonant right now, a bunch of notes not in harmony with each other. The dynamic between two people in a relationship is often a microcosm of the context (a particular time and place) of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 03:25 AM
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Trying to get what? When men realize they are mostly disliked and at best tolerated they adjust. It's not nice to feel like a burden, it seems there is no right way to be a man, if you are top 5% in status and attractiveness you make a nice accessory I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:46 PM
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I agree. One of the things The Red Pill get's wrong. Most men never enjoy a peak, it never get's easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 10:56 PM
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Raw Attraction has never been more important. If that is not there or those other 'qualities' become null and void. It is actually dangerous for a man to enter a relationship with a woman who does not actually have for desire him. Some men will never get it mostly because they want to hold onto the hope that they can compensate lack of desire with being an upstanding, emotionally mature gentlemen, who listens etc
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 04:04 PM
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If a woman woke up as a straight man and had to try develop a love life from scratch they would give up immediately. They wouldn't be able to fathom how little work they need to do relative to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 04:00 PM
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All the guys who don't do those things still don't get casual sex. There is no right way to be as a man, you are either attractive enough or you are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:58 PM
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Men are not respected or wanted. Apex fallacy again, maybe 5% of men are respected.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 01:05 AM
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All this says to me is that even men who are actually nice, should stop being nice. Men are only allowed to have emotions that women approve of, you're going to be villain regardless of what you do, another case of women pushing men to the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 06:15 PM
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Gold
/r/MensRights14/05/23 11:54 AM
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Lost my vote. Pathetic, going down the Australia route.
/r/MensRights13/05/23 06:00 PM
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I wish you the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 12:12 AM
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And every hot women I know doesn't get much attention at all, Everyone has ancedotes. I will ignore your mocking. Haven't spent much time on this subreddit so I am not aware of anyone calling fat women "vile and disgusting". Most late millennial and gen z men are not approaching women. Go on the numerous dating subreddits and women are often asking if it's ok to approach men themselves or why they don't get approached .
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 11:27 PM
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If men were wholesome sapiosexuals they would still be treated like shit. Going for looks is not why they are being treated like shit. Women do not need male provisioning anymore and have the state behind them, so they are free express who they are and how they feel especially towards men with little filter and what we see is representative of how most women really feel about most men. Are you telling me you haven't noticed that almost everything a man does is wrong? There is no right way to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 11:05 PM
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Women who are not good looking do not necessarily have better personalities. It's a myth that men are chasing hot women. Most men have low self esteem and avoid the hottest women and even women on their level physically just to give themselves a chance. You are gaslighting less average and below average men, if what you said was true we wouldn't have attractive women consistently saying they never get approached because men are too intimidated. The only thing you got right is men having low stan…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 10:36 PM
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Monica Bellucci Christy Turlington Gugu Mbatha Raw Caitriona Balfe
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 03:00 PM
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If I have a type it's very tall artsy women. Wouldn't seriously date a woman under 5'10 and have a strong preference for women who engage in Art professionally not as a hobby. I find people who are engaged in mastering a craft cultivate positive qualities that are useful in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 03:17 PM
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