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DebateEsotericRonin/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 12:51 AM
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DebateEsotericRonin/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 07:01 AM
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DiscussionEsotericRonin/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 01:27 PM
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CMVEsotericRonin/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 11:00 AM
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Question For WomenEsotericRonin/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 10:48 AM
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CMVEsotericRonin/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:59 PM
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DebateEsotericRonin/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 11:03 AM
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DebateEsotericRonin/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 07:11 PM
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Most men here have never been in a relationship. They don’t have the ability to even properly conceptualize the situation here. They’re deeply introverted and highly undiagnosed autistic. You’re asking the wrong community.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:00 AM
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No, and this guy is a psychopath. Only reddit incels who've never been in a relationship OR other psychopaths would say otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:11 AM
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I find it amusing none of the comments are actually engaging with the post itself because they don't want to read. The reality is; the MAJORITY of self proclaimed incels, don't have to be incels. They just don't want to fuck ugly girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:39 AM
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Shy of seeking people who cannot legally or physically consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:38 AM
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What a weird way to shift the topic. Most of you guys are fake incels, because you HAVEN'T tried everything possible to fuck, shy of extremely morally deprave means.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:33 AM
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Yikes the comments on this thread. Most of my close friendships have been with women. Its a good idea to not try to befriend women who've rejected you, or vice versa. But I also think guys who on a conceptual level think they cannot be friends with women don't see women as human on some level. I say this as someone who has a rule of not going out of my way to befriend any woman who I think is sexually attractive past a certain level (like if I see her as a 7.5+) Men and women absolutely can and …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:10 AM
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Its a good idea to not try to befriend women who've rejected you, or vice versa. But I also think guys who on a conceptual level think they cannot be friends with women don't see women as human on some level. I say this as someone who has a rule of not going out of my way to befriend any woman who I think is sexually attractive past a certain level (like if I see her as a 7.5+) Men and women absolutely can and should be friends, we have more in common than we have in difference, but unless there…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 11:44 AM
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I'd say he has more positive traits than negative. Good facial harmony, good jawline, eyebrow thickness, good hairline. He's probably a bit better looking than the average man., 6.5/10 His results are less so about his looks than the fact that he apparently says shit like "play time."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:42 AM
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Its so insane. You can't possibly think like this unless you're severely socially reclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:41 AM
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Well, yes. I would love to have a foursome with rihanna, tyla and beyonce. That is what I want. I will never get that. So anything else is settling. Everyone has to concede and settle in varying degrees. This guy doesn't even have to do all that, he just needs to change his verbiage away from "playtime" to something more mature. That doesn't involve changing the core of who he is anymore so than any of us dropping childish things from our vocabulary.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:39 AM
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??? How do you take "dont ask out every single girl you meet" to "dont ask out anyone?"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 06:07 PM
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More like weeding out pussy men who don't understand statistical signifigance. If a million women made videos saying they dont want to be approached, they're still a fraction of the population of women. The only men parroting this shit about not wanting to be seen as creeps are dudes who wouldn't anyway because they're terrified of the female species.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 06:06 PM
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My question is, why the fuck do you care what vapid women online say in regards to approaching women? No red blooded man gives a fuck. If a million women all made videos saying don’t talk to them in public guess what, that’s still a small fraction of the population. Go talk to any girl you find interesting. All this fear mongering about not wanting to be seen as a creep is cope from dudes who would never approach a girl in the first place so they look for any excuse to pussy out. That said, cold…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:35 AM
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Common sense Beyond this it applies to the whole “dark triad maxing” pill boys in general. They don’t understand women don’t like guys because they’re assholes, they like them in spite of being assholes. The traits women like are extroversion and boldness, which are more likely to be found in these dark triad guys. Some studies support agreeableness also being a trait that correlates with sexual success.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 10:48 AM
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There is no singular cause in most situations, its usually a combo of different things. Saying that "I could get away with being an asshole to certain women if i was hot" does not mean said asshole behavior does not put off certain women who would be otherwise into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:51 AM
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Not really, Op states that “never in the history of mankind” has being toxic been a reason for someone to do badly with women. That’s stupid and untrue. Just because some men are attractive enough to get away with being toxic, usually with women who are similarly toxic, does not mean that your own toxicity isn’t a reason for your dating failures.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 02:02 PM
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If there exists a study that shows a negative correlation between a prospective partners kindness and their attractiveness I haven't seen it. d, which is that men who are chronically single and starved off female attention aren't in that position due to toxicity or a lack of kindness I mean, they very much could be. Some men can get away with being assholes because they are very attractive and pick women who are also toxic. Most men cannot because most women are not that toxic themselves and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 01:06 PM
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Its not because they're toxic, its because they are tend to be high on traits like boldness, extraversion and impulsivity which, when coupled with decent looks and a predisposition towards sociosexual behavior, can lead to these people getting laid despite being toxic
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 12:47 PM
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Furthermore, correlation =/= causation. "This is in line with the idea that narcissism is the ‘lightest’ of the dark triad, because although it is associated with low agreeableness, it is also associated with high extraversion, which tends to be associated with social self-confidence and self-esteem. On the other hand, Machiavellianism is associated with low conscientiousness, although to a lesser extent than disinhibition. Putting this together, it seems that short-term mating does not seem to …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 12:44 PM
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Yes, people who are more risk and thrill oriented, like those with "dark triad" personality traits, tend to be more open towards uncommitted and casual sex in the first place (sociosexuality), and therefor tend to have it more, you don't need any study to tell you that, its common sense. Most people aren't seeking uncommitted sexual relationships. "When looking at the raw correlations, all three Dark Triad traits were positively associated with sociosexual orientation. People higher in narcissis…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 12:44 PM
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If I had a dollar for everytime someone mis-used a study like this. Im just going to copy paste another comment I made in response to a similar one. Kindness is consistently one of the most important factors for romantic partners. Also, several studies have linked people's "goodness" or niceness to increased physical attractiveness. "Compared to faces paired with nonmoral vignettes, those paired with prosocial vignettes were rated significantly more attractive, confident, and friendlier. The opp…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 12:39 PM
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Incels keep peddling this point but there is little data to back it up. Every single study on the topic shows that people look for partners who are kind or generally exhibit pro social behaviors. Just because some equally toxic women are willing to excuse bad behavior, does not mean the majority of women will. This doesn't mean looks don't matter, they get you in the door, but not being a toxic, violent, sexist, will keep you in there longer. And frankly, a lot of the red/black pill men on this …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 12:12 PM
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The reasoning may not be super accurate but the conclusion that promiscuous sex is red flag isn’t. Numerous studies show correlation between high sociosexual behavior and unsuccessful relationship outcomes or infidelity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 11:51 PM
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The reasoning may not be super accurate but the conclusion that promiscuous sex is red flag isn’t. Numerous studies show correlation between high sociosexual behavior and unsuccessful relationship outcomes or infidelity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 11:36 PM
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Op must be 15.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 08:07 AM
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Both. Run away as fast as you can in the opposite direction of any man of whom you are not his "type." I know my type is women of color, I can be attracted to and get with white girls, but I ultimately would not be content marrying one. Out of good will, I do not give the impression to white women that I date that I would marry them, because I wouldn't. I like girls with round butts, girls that can dance, girls that enjoy certain types of music, women that are religious, etc etc, as such, I make…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 11:05 AM
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Are you autistic by any chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:53 AM
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Care to prove that first statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:21 AM
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This is false. Women simp for average looking men all the time time if he fits a niche she’s into. I have an entire collection of women online thirsting after average looking guys who fit a niche: good body/gym, dances, fashionable, etc etc. Most average people date average people. This is a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 05:49 AM
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There was a peer reviewed tinder study?? I’m not sure what the relevance is. If by options you mean someone who would have sex with you, yes. Most of these incels on here absolutely could get ugly women but those ugly women are invisible to them and they’re hyper fixated on women above their level. I’m talking about REAL LIFE not online dating where the massive gender skew gives women the illusion of choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 05:47 AM
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Most men who claim they dont "have options", have options. Its just a girl they're not attracted to enough to pursue. If an option is someone who you have mutual romantic and or sexual interest in, then no, most women do not have options. Most men are bad at sex, poor company, ONLY interested in sex, lack good grooming habits, or would make poor relationship partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:51 PM
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Well this is just false lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:47 PM
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abso fuckig lutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:47 PM
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Stop messing with girls who don't like you, boom, no hoops Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 12:56 PM
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This is a question for men not women. Also, because im not a chronically online chud. Why would I give a fuck if a few women expressly dislike interacting with men?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 03:56 AM
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Nope. A red flag is anything that signals potential incompatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 11:25 PM
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I’m gen Z, I’ve never dealt with a non reciprocal woman for long
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 10:29 PM
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Pick better women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 10:15 AM
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Simple, disagree with premise 1. But sure, I can imagine any man HERE (socially introverted, on the spectrum, low openness) would like to have a harem but that’s more so born out of ill placed FOMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 02:53 PM
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No, you're not going to be better off doing this as a woman. You're just going to end up getting a sex-prioritizing guy who's too pussy to ask girls out. If you actually want to meet like-minded people, vet properly and get to know them before approaching them romantically (warm approach.)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 02:36 AM
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Women in the comments conflating PUA RP and the rest of the OG RP. Also, whether or not OG RP was "misogynistic" is entirely irrelevant to the point he's making.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 02:32 AM
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Yea who cares, most women don't prefer men who like dudes. Sky is blue. That's not a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:18 PM
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A lot of men are disqualifying themselves by being thinly veiled women obsessed misogynists that more women than they realize can pick up upon. But yes, bad people get laid in spite of not because of, if you’re less attractive you have less leeway etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 02:03 PM
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This is just wrong on every level.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 02:01 PM
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If a guy is a successful drug dealer he has to be confident and read the room. He might have poor emotional regulation and decision making but thats different.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 03:16 PM
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This is common sense, like most of the red pill
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 10:04 AM
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That’s still incredibly rude. Unless you’re both 16 or something. But the majority of adult women will either walk out or you won’t get a second date after doing something like that, regardless of how attractive she might’ve thought he was.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 09:58 AM
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Not in regards to that situation. But fickle in the sense that it is commonly understood that any little thing can and will make a woman lose interest. Chris rock or Eddie Murphy had a bit about this. In modern days we call it the ick; but the gist is most men would benefit from just shutting the fuck up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 09:56 AM
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Yes, some women with poor self-confidence and other toxic traits will put up with varying levels of anti-social negative behavior from you if they have a high enough interest level. But the MAJORITY won't. The MAJORITY of women will be instantly incredibly turned off if their date started being rude out of nowhere to the waiter, regardless of how attractive he might be. I don't think you PPD nerds realize just how fucking easy it is for a man to talk himself out of pussy that he otherwise might'…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 08:56 AM
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Which, were never studies to begin with lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:19 AM
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This reads like someone who just discovered the red pill + AI. "She's not yours" is cuck mentality. You don't need to see women as object, you can understand that at any point this person could theoretically leave you at any time. But you don't need to believe that just because she can that she will. For those marrying after 25, the first-time marriage divorce rate is 25%. You can improve those odds by vetting properly and not being a weirdo towards women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:18 AM
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Statistically most women, or people in general, don’t want casual sex. Men seek it more than women, who prefer long term relationships. It should be a fairly simple deduction to see the effect of this disconnect and why women, with a sea of men who only want to get their dick wet, have a harder time achieving their goal in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 12:00 PM
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I disagree. Anecdotal evidence of course but I’ve polled my female friends, acquaintances and exes about this and they almost universally tell me 25-26 is when they see it as a red flag to be a virgin as a man. Post-undergrad age. I’m sure some would see turning 20 as a kissless virgin is a red flag as well but I think those tend to be the extremely promiscuous types that are statistically fairly rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 04:39 AM
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It is easy as long as you are average looking and not autistic/super misogynist/weird about women
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 01:09 AM
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Common sense. Most of the guys here have mentally checked out of seeing women as anything more than living fleshlights, why would they care about personality? They just want to get laid. They deny having terrible personalities and ape about handsome people with extreme anti social behavior having female fans or mates and point to that as proof that personality doesn't matter. All it does is show that personality doesn't matter to THEM.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 10:25 PM
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Good chance you're on the spectrum. If you're 6'3 and not ugly and no woman had thrown it at you. The only thing I can think of that would repel women is clear autism, extreme anti-social behavior, body odor/hygiene or a combination of both.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 10:20 PM
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No it doesn't. All it does is say is that most people don't like certain traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 10:16 PM
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Yes, because being a 25+ year old virgin is a red flag. It is indicative of some traits that are undesirable in a mate. That said, women do not have it easier in dating. They have more options for casual sex, but the majority of people do not seek casual sex. Women have a harder time filtering out good mates because they have so many options.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 10:15 PM
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No they don’t lol 😂😂😂 the only “I can do better” realizations happen after a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 11:09 AM
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Well most of the guys here are blackpill leaning autistic incels, in the astute observatory sense. They don't care about womens roles at all, they just want someone to fuck em. The other portion of guys are jealous of women's roles in society; they want to be pedestalized, given free shit and taken care of while they don't have to do anything. Of course, they'll never admit that, but notice how negatively they react to the idea of a traditional relationship or one in where the woman is taken car…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 11:44 AM
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Actually, no they don't lol. That's the tism speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 10:43 AM
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Yes. Feminism has poisoned the minds of women at large to see "being like man" as the only thing to strive for.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 10:41 AM
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This is fucking stupid on several levels. Yes, some women with poor self-confidence and other toxic traits will put up with varying levels of anti-social negative behavior from you if they have a high enough interest level. But the MAJORITY won't. The MAJORITY of women will be instantly incredibly turned off if their date started being rude out of nowhere to the waiter, regardless of how attractive he might be. I don't think you PPD nerds realize just how fucking easy it is for a man to talk him…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 04:55 AM
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The average PPD guy is highly introverted (Reddit in general ), highly neurotic and low on openness and probably on the spectrum. Of course they’re not representative of the average western man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 04:24 AM
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Should be pinned
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 04:22 AM
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Women don't like dark triad traits. They like boldness, confidence and high self esteem, ie high extraversion. 'Dark triad" types just tend to be more likely to have said traits. C/P from a previous post i made. Furthermore, correlation =/= causation. This is in line with the idea that narcissism is the ‘lightest’ of the dark triad, because although it is associated with low agreeableness, it is also associated with high extraversion, which tends to be associated with social self-confidence and …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:06 AM
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Most women don't engage in casuals sex. You're free to be a slut, that won't stop me from judging you though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 09:48 PM
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No. End of. If you're a self respecting man it shouldn't, thats it. If you're an autistic or internet consumed introvert shut in with no confidence, then I imagine it would.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 09:46 PM
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OP's brain is fucking cooked. Stop focusing so much on casual sex. You're 30. Start a family. Also... the amount of women who engage in casual sex is a small minority. Also, women aren't dating men they wouldn't have casual sex with by and large.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 10:47 PM
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That is quite literally not true. Statistically women who engage in casual sex are a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 10:44 PM
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Those are not contradictory statements lol. Women think like this and it is reasonable. It’s not about relative. It’s about common sense. This is the opposite of social proof. The reason isn’t the red flag, the fact that they are a kissless virgin at 26 is. The reasons are the things the red flag indicates, that they are for however many reasons, undesirable as a mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 05:16 PM
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I have no issue with “sexism” Women will approach men. It’s less common but it happens still.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 02:30 PM
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This is how women think and it’s not illogical. It is a fact that if you are a kissless virgin in your mid 20s, not on purpose, it means everyone you’ve met in your life has found you undesirable for one or several reasons. I may not know what those reasons are but the red flag remains.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 02:29 PM
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This is only a thing if you’re not past college aged. Most women will think it’s a red flag to be 26 and have zero experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 02:27 PM
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Nope. Not what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 12:32 AM
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Im confused. Yes, most will have experience. Not having said experience is a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 12:00 AM
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Nope. None of that. But it’s nice to see some people type just to pass the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 09:22 PM
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Such is life. Don't tell people you're a virgin and get into self improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 08:52 PM
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You wouldn't ask that if you knew the term. A red flag is a signal of an underlying trait that is undesirable for being a mate. Every other woman not wanting a guy means that they have collectively recognized said trait. Therefor he is a virgin. Therefor it is a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 08:45 PM
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That's the whole point. There's something undesirable about you. That's a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 08:43 PM
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To argue about it more actually. But feel free to cope seethe as you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 08:42 PM
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If you were a man (which I now doubt), you'd immediately realize this is a stupid argument. After all, women don't pursue men, so all a man has to do to remain romantically alone is simply exist. It doesn't need to be anything vile or illegal; men, on average, are simply not that attractive to women. Even BlueP doesn't argue with that. Yes, a lot of women absolutely will absolutely pursue and make their interest known to men. I also added to the statement, which you literally included in your ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 08:40 PM
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Do you know what the word red flag means?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 08:35 PM
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The point is that most normal men will have said experience earlier on and not having said experience later is a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 08:35 PM
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Most women are actually fairly understanding if you're a teenager or early 20s. But past college aged you don't get to use that excuse anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 07:30 PM
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Use your common sense. The affirmative claim is that seeing virginity as a red flag is not "virgin shaming." If there is any shame, its on YOUR end. Its how you perceive yourself. Being socially awkward in your 20s is somewhat of a red flag or it can be the deal-breaker itself. Most people prefer partners who are extroverted and open as opposed to introverted and not or neurotic. Ugliness evolutionarily signals bad health. And if every woman has found you physically un-attractive then, why would…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 07:30 PM
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This is nonsense with no substantiating psychological research.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 07:23 PM
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I made this thread precisely because I was downvoted to oblivion for saying that women who think a man being a virgin is "virgin shaming.' Just wait, the dissidents will come.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 07:17 PM
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Beta bux alpha fucks is a myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 03:05 PM
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Sure if progress means “become more like men.”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 03:05 PM
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Nobody said they were doing that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 03:02 PM
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Then don’t do them for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 03:01 PM
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They do lol I’ve been a victim of love bombing, bread crumbing, hot and cold games all that. Odd question OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 07:27 PM
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No. Most women do prefer leanness.
/r/seduction11/10/25 02:31 PM
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Almost none of this is correct and shows you haven't given much effort at all into learning about the red pill or its history.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 11:58 AM
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Common sense; women are aware of this. Women also experience sexual desire. But most women, unlike a large portion of men, are not weird enough to make sexual comments and gestures towards men they don't know in person or on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 11:55 AM
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Because it is a red flag I never said what constitutes virgin shaming to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 05:31 AM
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That would be the extrapolation if you had poor comprehension
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 05:27 AM
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No, not really. Some women will pull back if you tell them you're a virgin because it raises red flags, rightfully so. If I was a virgin in my mid 20s I'd just keep it to myself as I can reason that to a woman that would signal several factors of undesirability for a man. Most virgin-shaming undeniably takes place in guy circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 03:14 AM
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Nobody is saying you have to put up with insecure women either. People in general don't like insecure people who make their insecurities other peoples problems, which is something incels dont seem to get.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 02:59 AM
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It absolutely projects in their conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 02:56 AM
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your friends aren't into men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 02:50 PM
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Nothing you said actually contradicts his point. A good portion of "good" guys aren't good in relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 11:05 AM
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+100 A lot of these dudes are straight up losers who want to justify and cope about their lack of effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 11:02 AM
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"Social queues is a lie" oh god I've heard it all from this sub. This might be the most single handedly autistic thing i've ever read. And no, the vast majority of women are not outright sexual right away with guys they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 10:58 AM
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Thats another myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 11:55 AM
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Beta buxx alpha fucks isn't real and never was.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 11:50 AM
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Women aren't lying when they say that want nice guys. Incels are just too stupid to realize that women also want partners they're attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 11:49 AM
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You don't find these issues with men you talk to? If you quite literally cannot communicate with women honestly in any scenario without it coming across as hostile or threatening then I truly think there may be an inward facing issue here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 06:28 AM
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It does matter and it is absolutely killing a lot of dudes chances once they get past the initial door of attraction. Do some women brush past misogynist remarks or implications or actions because a guy is really hot to them? Sure. But even high attraction can be easily killed with poor words or actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 06:10 AM
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Neither for me. I love women. As should any healthy redpill man. If you're aware of female nature, its stupid to resent them for it. But a lot of these guys are resentful towards women for a lot of reasons. At the core of it, a lot of them are incels , usually because they're below average in looks and are socially inhibited (introverted) or on some degree of the spectrum. Some of them hate women for not choosing them, which can come from or turn into larger misogyny, which further destroys thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 06:05 AM
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The incentive to doing your job at work is that you keep your job yes. The incentive to be a good person in a relationship is that you keep your relationship. Also no one is rewarding bad behavior for the most part. Dating in poor areas includes a larger share of people who are desensitized to poor behavior therefore it becomes less of a deal breaker for potential partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 12:10 AM
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The incentive is the vast majority of women will leave you upon discovering you are shitty. The reward is keeping your relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 11:58 PM
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This is just the same contrived and debunked alpha fucks beta bux and nice guys malding that has absolutely no backing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 02:22 PM
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This is also not true. The vast majority of women do care about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 02:20 PM
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That’s not true. Every study on the subject shows people prefer kind partners. Toxic people end up in toxic relationships with other toxic people, normal people shouldn’t take that to heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 02:18 PM
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Welll...Yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 05:21 AM
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What? No. A majority of them claim that being “dark triad” itself is what is more attractive to women and that being nice is an active detriment. Not understanding that the “dark triad” traits underlying these people are extroversion, boldness and risk taking and a preference for casual relationships which is statistically less common.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 04:56 AM
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That’s a non-sequitur. Nobody said any other aspects were different. The only qualities he noted was one was a asshole and the other was a nice man, logically we would assume that is the difference between them. Personality absolutely matters. What on the spectrum incels don’t understand is that people can attract mates in spite of their poor behavior and personality, not because of it, and it doesn’t need to be said that attractiveness obviously matters for getting your foot in the door to begi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 04:28 AM
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As a rule I don't make friends with women I'm attracted to unless we already had romantic history and became platonic. But yea, only do this if its genuine. Goes for any relationship. Women make some of the best wingmen out there. The social proof aspect is great too
/r/seduction28/09/25 02:08 AM
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Furthermore, correlation =/= causation. This is in line with the idea that narcissism is the ‘lightest’ of the dark triad, because although it is associated with low agreeableness, it is also associated with high extraversion, which tends to be associated with social self-confidence and self-esteem. On the other hand, Machiavellianism is associated with low conscientiousness, although to a lesser extent than disinhibition. Putting this together, it seems that short-term mating does not seem to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 10:06 AM
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Yes, people who are more risk and thrill oriented, like those with "dark triad" personality traits, tend to be more open towards uncommitted and casual sex in the first place (sociosexuality), and therefor tend to have it more, you don't need any study to tell you that, its common sense. Most people aren't seeking uncommitted sexual relationships. When looking at the raw correlations, all three Dark Triad traits were positively associated with sociosexual orientation. People higher in narcissism…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 10:06 AM
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You said wrong and then didn't actually contradict what I said. I said things people find attractive in good partners. It's not irrelevant. Its a fact. Kindness is consistently one of the most important factors for romantic partners. Also, several studies have linked people's "goodness" or niceness to increased physical attractiveness. Compared to faces paired with nonmoral vignettes, those paired with prosocial vignettes were rated significantly more attractive, confident, and friendlier. The o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 10:04 AM
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No woman says men should never be nice, it’s other men saying that. You absolutely should not be super overtly sexual early on in conversation with women. That’s weird and off putting even if you’re super attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 03:53 AM
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This is stupid and not at all based in reality. It’s just regurgitated incel propaganda. A woman will absolutely take the nice guy over the asshole provided all else equal. Men and women prefer kind and nice people in relationships. The guy in your scenario isn’t even a nice person, he’s a doormat who’s probably also physically unattractive, low in openness and extroversion and just high in agreeableness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 03:52 AM
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If you definite do well as get laid with a bunch of damaged or toxic women sure. These people don’t usually keep relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 03:46 AM
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You guys keep saying this but every study on the things people find attractive in good partners includes being a good person. What you’re noticing is that exceptionally hot or rich people can find mates despite this, usually because said mates are similarly damaged or toxic for various reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 03:44 AM
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A friend is someone who would give you the shirt off their back and you’d do the same for. If they need a place to stay for a while they’d stay at yours and vice versa. Someone who you can talk to about anything and they won’t judge you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 04:32 AM
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Ignore the people telling you not to talk to girls at the gym, talk to everyone at the gym, not just girls. My personal approach is to compliment her lifts or strength, especially if she's not doing legs. Stay away from complimenting her ass or something. I called a girl a beast, she smiled widely and said "thank youu", later spoke to her again, introduced myself, small talk etc Build from there. Eventually got her number and ig over the course of a few more interactions over days. What you prob…
/r/seduction24/09/25 04:25 AM
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Women, and men, absolutely can smell when someone is insecure about something through conversation because ya'll make it abundantly clear in ways you probably don't grasp.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 04:19 AM
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You've been with 32 women and all of them happened to have an extreme bdsm kink? Thats more of a reflection of you than anything else. Also, surprise, women are not a monolith.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 04:11 AM
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Both A, easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:58 AM
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What 'study' says explicitly that men who are dark triad are more succesful at dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:52 AM
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Mind you, there is no study that actually says women only find a certain percent of men attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 10:19 AM
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No it doesn’t. Not in a way that corroborates a contrary view to Op. If it does then explain how that demonstrates a comprehensive understanding of what you posted, otherwise you just gathered a bunch of links to abstracts of studies who’s headlines seem like they support your point, without actually reading them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:02 AM
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You’re calling it evidence yet you fail to actually substantiate how. Simply posting them and calling them self evident is among one of the most intellectually lazy things you can do and indicates you haven’t actually engaged with the material yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 01:50 AM
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Posting a myriad of links that are nebulously related to (but dont actually support) whatever point you may be trying to make isn't an effective rhetorical tool nor does it mean much.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 01:44 AM
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Not particularly, not at all, not without you actually explaining how.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 10:51 PM
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Not according to any actual study on attractiveness in partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 10:50 PM
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Linking snippets and abstracts with no extrapolation is not a proper counter-argument or refutation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 10:49 PM
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Ideally my girl is funny. Don't want her to be too serious, as long as she's not outright immature. I want someone who can laugh in tense situations and doesn't take herself too seriously enough that she can't joke around. Those things tend to communicate someone is self assured and self aware. She doesn't need to be a comedian but she should be able to take a joke and dish them out herself. I prefer not going 50/50, if it can be helped I'd prefer a traditional gender roled relationship. I've fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 10:22 PM
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Please go to therapy. None of this will actually help you, and no woman expects you to save them or come to their aid. This post is honestly just a big broadcast sign that says "I am a angry incel with a revenge fantasy."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 10:17 PM
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The argument is stupid, what is there to refute?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 10:16 PM
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I see no issue with any of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 08:34 AM
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Well no, most of them do not in fact or would not in fact say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 04:12 PM
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Again, most of those comments are saying the men aren’t unnatractive outright. The woman in that particular post even said it’s not just about physical looks. Just that most of the guys she meets either has a physical or personality flaw that turns her off. Also you just linked a post from a middle aged women sub Reddit. Reddit is already home to a particular demographic of mostly introverted liberal women. So there’s a lot wrong with using threads like that to inform your worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 09:37 AM
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I don't. You gotta be some sort of autistic to not realize that women are already assuming the guy is physically attractive. Also, a lot of dudes can't conceptualize that these traits literally do make men more attractive to some women in a, "i want to sleep with you more" sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 06:33 AM
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No. They don't. They say the majority of men to them are unremarkable and don't stick out. Not that they are unattractive. There's a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 06:29 AM
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What? No its common sense. Real world dating doesn't have a vast majority men nor do women in real life have nearly as many options as online dating would have them think.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 06:25 AM
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That's not at all what they're saying though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 02:49 AM
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Based on what? The 2020 pew research poll says only 50 percent of young men are single and 32 percent of women. And half of all single people aren't looking for a relationship in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 02:49 AM
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The answer is that isn’t true lol Average dudes get fwb relationships all the time. I’m seriously not sure how you arrived at the conclusion that only dudes who rival prime DiCaprio get casual sex. I’m average across the board, and a good chunk of my friends are too and we’ve all been there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 09:03 AM
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....They can. Flair checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 01:46 PM
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Its because she sees something wrong with "chad" that makes him not a long-term partner.
/r/seduction16/09/25 06:18 AM
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… Those people get laid in spite of their personality. They’re also sought after by less than desirable people themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 11:19 AM
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This is the kinda shit I’m talking about lol Because any normal socially adjusted person can understand that it doesn’t require “superpowers to smell out misogyny” or tell when you’re talking to someone who is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 11:03 AM
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Most incel's are misogynists. It seeps through in their personality and interactions with women even if they try to hide it. Women can tell. Its a turn off. They're also probably low in extroversion and general social charisma. They're also probably lower on the attractiveness scale, but probably not as ugly as they think.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 09:38 AM
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A lot of dudes in this thread and forum are seriously ignoring the fact of reality that most women who only require sex from you, find something else to be seriously wrong with you. 9/10 A woman that will sleep with you also wants a relationship out of you, and shes not going to sleep with you unless she's reasonably sure she's getting that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 09:37 AM
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That lifestyle is lame and gets old. Find a girlfriend.
/r/seduction05/09/25 02:42 PM
1

Why not pay for a hooker?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 10:10 AM
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This is stupid. Why restrict yourself to one method? Cold approaching still works if you're decently above average and are charismatic. Normal women don't give a fuck if you go up to them and start a conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 02:16 AM
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This is strange and weird and your ancestors are turning in shame. I know you don't actually think this; its supposed to be a gotcha piece aimed at "the feminists." Men, especially men, are obligated to protect their partners. If there is anything remotely resembling a man's job, it is to protect his family and his tribe. Men and women are not the same, never have been, never will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 01:35 AM
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This is cool stuff. Im surprised no one has made a thread posting this here. I'm sure they'd get a bunch of frownie face reactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 08:02 AM
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Not what the site even says lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 06:16 AM
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Sounds like you just boring not a nice guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 09:18 PM
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I mean, you're not wrong about the bottom line. Most of these guys want to be able to be their true women-hating or dickhead/antisocial selves and still have girls throwing themselves at them. They intrinsically disagree with the idea of putting in any effort into themselves in order to attract a mate and mald at the existence of a theoretical and really mostly imaginary guy who does nothing like that and has a harem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 12:49 PM
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Not a single link in your post proves or supports the idea women don't experience visceral sexual attraction like men do. Not a single one. I also don't need to think that "women at large" "give a fuck" about me in order to know this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 07:13 AM
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Because it is in a way. The vast majority of guys on this sub are probably not ugly enough to not get girls; its their women-hating personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 08:03 AM
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Warm approach never cold approach at the gym. Unless she is literally eye fucking you. Built rapport slowly. If she’s going there you’ll more then likely see her again. Get her IG after a few days. Not first time you talk to her. Don’t be super flirty, compliment her lifts/strength not her body. Talk to EVERYONE not just girls. Ig >> talk about personal plans etc >> after a few weeks invite her to group setting outside gym. Not a date.
/r/seduction25/07/25 05:22 PM
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49 percent of young men are in committed relationships. I’m not sure how the extra stuff is relevant. I have no reason to believe only 20 percent of those relationships are sexually active.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 05:39 AM
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It’s not. Per pew research 49% of young men are actively dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 04:53 AM
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Only 50 percent of men aged 18-29 are single. And of all single men, 37 percent aren’t looking for a partner. According to pew research.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 03:38 AM
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Probably a hundred from ages 15-21.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 11:25 PM
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You let internet feminists clip your balls?? You were never going to approach anyway. You just now have an excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 11:23 PM
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It’s not like only 20 percent of men are getting women either. I’m not sure why people are parroting something so stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 11:19 PM
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How many times will incels pedal the beta bux alpha fucks scenario. The average man is getting dates and having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 11:11 PM
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Op seems like a loaded question. I love being a traditionally masculine man. I like traditional gender roles. I’ve never thankfully been taught to repress being a man or was given the idea it’s toxic. That said, I’m glad people have the freedom to express themselves as they please. Feminist idealogy will tell you though that these things are inherent and systemic to everyone (patriarchy and patriarchal frames) that you must actively work to undo internally and externally.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 03:38 PM
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Why are you conflating bad boy with hot guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 03:51 AM
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Nobody said anything close to that. We’re saying not to start autistically suddenly hitting on your female friends and saying you can’t control yourself around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:54 AM
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QFT " These are two separate scenarios being combined into one. 1.No, you shouldn't be more flirty and sexual with women you are friends with, if you have just established that this is a platonic relationship Yes, you should be more flirty, sexual and playful with women you are interested in that are not your friends"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:11 AM
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My question is, why the fuck do you care what vapid women online say in regards to approaching women? No red blooded man gives a fuck. If a million women all made videos saying don’t talk to them in public guess what, that’s still a small fraction of the population. Go talk to any girl you find interesting. All this fear mongering about not wanting to be seen as a creep is cope from dudes who would never approach a girl in the first place so they look for any excuse to pussy out. That said, cold…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 07:13 PM
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A good man is someone who doesn’t enter a relationship while having deep seated insecurities that manifest whenever their partner “exists too confidently” whatever that means.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 06:51 PM
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At the end of the day your framing is wrong because “the good ones” don’t act like you’re describing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 09:11 AM
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Stop dating insecure little boys then? Im not sure why you're acting like this a problem all women face. Just girls like you who have bad taste.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 06:17 AM
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> Holding the door, paying for the first date without a second thought, approaching her, asking her out in person, asking her out for a date that isn’t “wanna come over” or “wanna hang out”, buying her flowers, not asking for nudes, not playing hot and cold to get her to chase you, making her feel safe on the date, being funny and being yourself around her, texting her to make sure she got home safe, really trying to get to know her and not just get her to break her rule and sleep with you right…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:22 AM
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Satire?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:20 AM
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I'm on the lower end of average across the board and I've been approached for my number/ig a few times randomly from women I don't know. Either at the mall or the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 03:00 PM
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Most people, who date trans people, are in-fact, bisexual. Straights and homosexuals of either males or females tend to not date transgenders. That is to say, both straight men and lesbian women tend to not date MTF transgenders, and gay men and straight women tend to not date FTM transgenders.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 06:25 AM
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This seems like more black pill conjecture and fear mongering meant to scare average dudes away from interacting with women. The average woman isn't calling random dudes creepy for making eye-contact with her once. I made a post 2 years ago that women overwhelmingly agreed with that it is stupidly easy to not be creepy to most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 05:20 AM
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I’m not worried about anyone liking me. That’s why they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 06:22 AM
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Man not being able to conceptualize other people are different
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 02:35 AM
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I don’t think so. Even if you were horribly ugly you can still have women who are interested in you even if it’s on a platonic level. If you genuinely cannot find any woman interested in you in some form then it is definitely a reflection of you as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 09:12 PM
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That applies to an infinitesimal percent of men. And even then that’s a reflection of you in some a form.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 09:08 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 09:05 PM
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Well… not really. You don’t have to be a chad for a woman to be interested in you. This thread isn’t just about romantic interaction, it’s about women In General being boring…. I know a lot of guys in here can’t conceptualize being platonic friends with women. It’s not cold. It’s just that based on how you present yourself in your interactions with her or any number of contributing factors, she doesn’t wanna put on the effort to show her personality to you. I’m a guy and I probably seem boring t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 09:05 PM
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It’s not ego. I don’t care to he intriguing to anyone I’m not interested in. She’s not putting in effort but she’s also not expecting you too either, she just has seen you as you are or presented yourself and isn’t into you. Nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 08:33 PM
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I dont think women are boring. The real answer is, WOMEN WHO DONT LIKE YOU, are boring to you. They don’t want to or care to let you in on their personality. The guys who say women are boring just don’t have women who really like them lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:22 PM
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Most men do experience FWB
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:18 PM
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100 percent. You just don't admit to something like this. Guys think they should be able to be as weird and offputting as they want without getting negative social consequence from it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 02:15 AM
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Maybe in their heads, but this is majorly flawed way of thinking. Most women who are hot and "good at sex" are or were promiscuous. I'd also say a lot of the guys here, almost a majority, claim that they don't care about n-count and that only prudes or religious folks do that. Perhaps those are just the comments from men I've seen the most. At the least; that is the underlying implication when they say they want a girl who will sleep with them on the first date- they have to know that if a woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 09:31 AM
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I wouldn't say higher. I'd actually say lower. The bar to be a FWB is - not actively unpleasant to be around - attractive enough to fuck, ideally when sober too - good enough at sex to fuck multiple times For the most part. To actually get a woman to commit to you, you need to have husband traits, make her feel safe, be a seemingly good future prospect, fulfil her emotional and intimate needs and desires etc etc. Most women aren't settling down with men they don't find attractive. Usually, its m…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 09:26 AM
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The thing is in most guys heads, "has sex early" and "slept with a lot of men" are usually the same thing. That is, and this has been the case in my life, women who will sleep with you on the first or second date...probably have done so before with a few different guys. I would say the average man thinks "if she's doing this with me, how many other guys has she done this with?" Even if he very well may be an exceptional man for her, the idea is there, and therefor, the very real possibility that…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 09:21 AM
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Nah, the dudes here love whores, when the whores indulge them and be whores for them. They think only religious guys care about stuff like that. The disconnect is they hate the idea of (and its only an idea because they don't actually talk to women) a woman who was a whore who is currently not one and or won't be a whore for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 09:16 AM
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There’s 260 million adults in the US alone or about 130 million women. If a million women liked a post that said all men are stupid and ugly, That’s still only 0.007 percent of adult women in the u.s. alone. It’s not 5 percent lol. But Dating apps are like 80 percent male, and they have positive feedback loops where the people who are liked more are shown more, so this means its even more likely that only the popular men are picked on those apps. And because men outnumber women so much, women ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 09:10 AM
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Yeah your feed self justifies itself. These aren’t the average woman, you’re being shown content that you continuously engage with and seek out. So yes , it makes sense why you’d think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 08:51 AM
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Uhh, nope. Companionship can indeed be romantic…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 08:14 AM
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Okay, but thats not what you said. Saying that men don't date for companionship is wrong. No one is dating to be platonic friends. If you view dating like a transaction "i dispense money for dinner, ideally she pays me in sex" you're better off ordering hookers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 08:12 AM
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The idea that not sleeping with a man on the first date is "treating him worse" toes the line of equating sexual favors to "common decency", which is really, really bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 08:08 AM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1iqpysc/if_you_get_mad_that_a_formerly_promiscuous_woman/ I made a post saying something similar. Men hate the idea of not having sex immediately with a woman who, in the past, has had sex immediately with another man. In their minds, they think it means she's not as attracted to them. When in reality, a woman isn't going on a date with a man whom she's not attracted to in most cases. The reality is in these situations - The woman has a newfound …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 08:07 AM
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"normal men don't date for companionship" What planet are you from sir?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 07:55 AM
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I mean, this sub is pretty much an outlier. Most guys in real life (im a man with mostly male friends) do actually care about how often their girl engaged in promiscuous sex. No one wants to be with the village whore. But the guys on this sub are so sex starved and idolize a promiscious life with fwbs and hookups that they don't care about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 07:54 AM
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No. Its usually done for men that she wants a LTR with. Also, chadrone and glocktavious, I know what you are. Least subtle dog whistling.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 07:52 AM
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Contrary to popular belief actually the average man can and does have casual sex, he does NOT look like brad pitt in fight club. The only men I know who aren't are socially stunted/neurodivergent/autistic /extremely introverted Low on openness and extroversion, high on conscientiousness noticeably below average in looks/disfigured terrible to be around in general (usually a manifestation of their bitterness/hatred towards women and the world in general) or extremely boring Don't actually want to…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 07:47 AM
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Its genuinely astonishing how far black pill dudes can delude themselves into thinking women are a hypergamous whore hivemind who only select for the most desirable men and that the average man is being settled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 07:39 AM
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Women aren't a monolith. Also I seriously disagree and would challenge you to substantiate both your stated and unstated premises that categorically men who become husbands are not men who prior to that were objects of desire for women. Or to support the idea that there is a "type of man" who is a husband and the other who is a "hookup". In-fact, the majority of men period, especially though who are married, dated casually. The average man in America has sex and dates casually. The ability to de…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 07:38 AM
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Ironically, this post itself seems to either come from an autistic or socially stunted pov. It’s very common in black pill guys who espouse hatred at the idea of non verbal forms of communicating which in the realm of flirting and courting is more favored by women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 01:11 PM
1

Were you Mormon per chance? I was never taught to stay away from girls or relationships.
/r/seduction28/06/25 03:37 PM
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You don’t need to be tall you just need to be a high 7 and above in the face or a 6 with a good body
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:27 AM
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Op, They do. I keep a compilation of women online acting feral. You either need to be a 8 in the face or a 6 with a nice body that leans into an aesthetic that a group of women like.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:26 AM
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Black pill guys check out at learning body language or being confident and charismatic because they are autistic or socially stunted
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:07 AM
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Another OP who needs to either be on a watch list and or see a psychiatrist. What the fuck is the equivalency between consensual promiscuous sex and rape??
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 08:49 AM
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Right so, the argument this post puts forth is incredibly stupid. Only ugly women have incentive to be and are therefor the only ones good or standout in bed and that includes stuff like asking to be choked. That’s stupid. I don’t need to break down why. Think about it for a minute or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 08:46 AM
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Insulting is incredibly lame and won't get you anywhere. Playfully misinterpret things they say or like take their statements to their most absurd conclusions. CharismaOnCommand has a shit ton of videos that talk about this. Russel brand does it a lot.
/r/seduction24/06/25 01:08 AM
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Because women with small boobs don't try to overcompensate for them the way men with small dicks do etc
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 06:12 AM
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Op needs a psychiatrist. Wanting to stick your dick in a girl isn’t love. OP imagine an ugly big buff man approached you and wouldn’t give you physical space and kept complimenting or starting at your ass or chest. That’s how it feels to these women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 08:55 PM
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So go complain about it like a female, no one is stopping you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 11:58 PM
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You don't even have to fully shoot your shot. I would actually advise against immediately asking a girl out or getting her number off first contact off the gym, unless shes eye-fucking you and makes it incredibly known shes into you. You legit can just go up to a girl introduce yourself and say you noticed how strong she is/compliment her lift in some way, be brief, give your name, and keep it pushing. Then you can slowly build on that over the next few interactions.
/r/seduction16/06/25 10:17 PM
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Its probably something you're doing or not doing inbetween the time.
/r/seduction16/06/25 08:50 PM
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No. Most women think most men are unremarkable and don't stand out, not unnatractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 03:20 PM
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Women on (dating app) (who rated attractiveness) found 80 percent of men (on said dating app) below average looking (in a random online survey based on a single image of each male)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 03:15 PM
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It’s 2025 and we’re still referencing an online okcupid study
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 03:29 AM
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All these autistic incel men want to be man-whores. That's it. They have FOMO from consuming content from degenerate red pill creators who boast about getting laid and having harems and think that its the peak of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 01:31 AM
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Average across the board man here - I don't think about this because im not a fucking pussy. If she leaves she leaves and she wasn't the one for me. All my other average friends don't have issues getting girls from time to time or having girlfriends either.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 01:25 AM
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Nope, most "evil" guys hide it until the woman is romantically entangled with them
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 01:11 AM
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+1. Im not saying they’re more likely to cheat, but if they were, I wouldn’t know, and they’d have double the options.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 01:43 PM
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Most women aren’t like that. They know off rip if they like you or don’t and aren’t wasting time if they don’t. I can see exceptions of she’s especially desperate but those are the very small minority of times when she doesn’t really have any other options
/r/seduction13/06/25 12:58 PM
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Who is this post supposed to be a gatcha at? The ethereal hypothetical "woman"-unimind collective? Both straight women and lesbian women don't like dating bisexuals for various reasons. I don't date bisexual women either as a man. Who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 12:04 PM
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Yes it is in the vast majority of situations
/r/seduction12/06/25 05:40 PM
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If she agrees to go on a date with you she’s attracted to you
/r/seduction12/06/25 02:42 PM
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And the world kept spinnin
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 09:59 AM
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I think you kinda just fundamentally misunderstand female sexuality. If Michael b jordan suddenly dressed like a femboy and started wearing colored wigs and painted nails, the majority of women who currently think he's a 10 would see him as a 0. His presentation would go from making them lust over him to being outright turned off. Even if you don't think it does; how you present yourself matters when it comes to how attracted women are to you. The men she thirsts over on tiktok present themselve…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 07:07 AM
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No, and any man who says yes is a sex and romance starved fool sadly..
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 02:43 PM
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No it’s not. Unremarkable means he doesn’t stand out of void, she’s not paying attention to him. Unattractive means he is literally unpleasant to look at. There is a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:49 AM
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OP is a fucking psychopath. Having sex isn't the qualifier for a romantic relationship. Its when two people enter into a mutual agreement to be exclusively intimate romantically and sexually with each other; having sex with someone else is 9/10 a breach in that that agreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 05:23 AM
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Women are more likely than men to have dedicated hygiene routines.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 05:16 AM
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Most women think most men are unremarkable, not unattractive. There's a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 05:16 AM
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Most guys here are of varying levels of autistic so basic socializations need mathematical proofs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 05:12 AM
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No they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 05:10 AM
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The original claim was that women rarely find men initially attractive, or that women don’t “go crazy” over male looks. My TikTok example wasn’t about how many men get this attention,it was to disprove the idea that it’s rare for women to respond to male attractiveness with immediate interest or excitement. Even if it’s a “top fraction” of men, the point still stands: a lot of women do respond strongly and visibly to physical attraction. That directly contradicts the claim that this kind of reac…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 05:08 AM
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Yeah and you’re talking to a small subset of a small subset of women who use Reddit and try to entertain pill discourse lol. If every woman on this sub collectively agreed that they rarely find men sexually appealing it still wouldn’t mean much. Like I said, vast evidence that f the contrary exists if you go outside. Edit; not that I think the premise is true to begin with. I have not seen a majority of women here say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:36 PM
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I’m not saying it’s right, but I would say most women (who were promiscuous) lie about their promiscuous pasts to varying degrees, atleast by omission, so much that it’s become somewhat ubiquitous in male culture and we’ve developed ways to discern when a girl is doing it, but if she’s really good you won’t know. Alternatively you could go for one of those free spirit girls who are relatively open about stuff like that but they come with problems of their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 09:37 AM
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Because a lot of men write off women with promiscuous pasts as fun girls only. A woman who sees a man as a suitable long term mate probably wants to an avoid being put in this category. Maybe she became religious, maybe she developed newfound respect for herself, could be any number of things
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 09:21 AM
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There’s traveling to different cities states countries and social media. Hell as a man I rarely have days where I go out and think more than 3-4 women I see are hot. That doesn’t mean I think most women aren’t attractive. I also never made the comment that women are super picky about who they find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 09:20 AM
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You can find multiple types of people attractive and the toxic guys attract toxic women etc etc Inductive reasoning (as a man everything is your responsibility) but the why is irrelevant. Point is there’s no discernible reason to assume women are settling for men they’re not attracted to as opposed to just losing attraction over the course of the marriage for any number of reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 09:13 AM
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Yes I know what you’re arguing. I’m saying that I don’t have much reason to think a woman who would be promiscuous for a man she sees as a 10 wouldn’t be promiscuous for another guy she sees as a 6.5. Likewise if she’s not the promiscuous type at all I can’t imagine she would break that for either man provided she’s of normal mental stability. Even if a woman sees you as a 10 she’s probably not going to hookup with you unless you check other boxes if she’s not a promiscuous girl to begin with. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 06:13 AM
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I’m disagreeing with the premise altogether that women are settling for men they’re not really attracted to. What you’re seeing is women who’ve lost attraction to men they were attracted to initially over the course of the marriage for any number of reasons and yes 9/10 that falls on the man letting himself go or neglecting the emotional aspect of the marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 05:20 AM
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Yes a woman would take that as a compliment on average
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:41 AM
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It’s not a measure of attractiveness. No woman looks at a man and thinks, “I’m attracted to him only if he pays my bills.” What you’re describing is the subset of women who believe their their sexual time and intimacy is worth or should only come as an investment with other things. If a woman is promiscuous there’s not a hidden third level that only the hottest guys can unlock. A hoe is a hoe. As long as he’s got enough to sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:28 AM
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Or maybe she doesn’t want to come across as a whore to a man she actually likes
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:23 AM
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The problem is wanting to have harem of hookers and whores to shoot pornos with at 30 years old
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:21 AM
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Nobody is stringing you along if they’re going on dates with you and only a loser is “pushing” for sex in a few dates. Some people aren’t absolutely whores or see women as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:15 AM
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Absolutely not and most women are going to tell you that’s false. Women go crazy over men all the time, spend like 10 minutes on YouTube or tiktok watching women react to muscular and or attractive guys and look at the comments. I’ve personally collected a compilation of these comments from adult women mind you just to eradicate this narrative. This cope incel idea that women are rarely attracted to men initially is just false.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:14 AM
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The assumption men make is wrong. The woman isn’t saying he’s not hot enough to be Fwb material.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:10 AM
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This is an extrapolation rather than the actual cause. Marriages like that tend to become that way when one partner loses interest after their man either lets himself go or stops contributing emotionally or romantically to maintain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:09 AM
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I don’t see anything empirical about this statement. Women saying they rarely find men in their day to day lives attractive isn’t the same thing as saying they rarely find men attractive at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:07 AM
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Men taking pride in their appearance is nothing new actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 11:08 AM
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Second sentence is the entire point of the thread. The average guy can and does get women who are sexually attracted to them and the 80/20 shit is nonsense based on an online dating app randomized survey.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 11:07 AM
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This is based on a flawed okcupid/tinder study. There's so much wrong with extrapolating a random online study from a dating app about which participants found which random men attractive based on a single picture to the entire female populace it doesn't take much critical thinking to discard.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 11:06 AM
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its an irrational concern at best. Like I said and most women agree with, most women aren't even going to go on a date with you if shes not sexually attracted to you. Also to be clear; women are unlike most men in that non-physical/facial stuff like your personality can increase their "lust" for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 11:04 AM
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That also doesn’t mean she’s not attracted to him. The implicit meaning for a woman is that he’s not just fwb material. The assumption men make is that means he’s not hot enough to be a fwb. The woman clarified this in the thread herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:25 AM
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She didn’t say she wasn’t attracted to her husband. So I fail to see the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 08:05 AM
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Contrary to incel belief, wanting a partner who takes pride in their appearance isn’t shallow
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 06:37 AM
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Isn’t her type usually in this context doesn’t mean Hes unnatractive to her physically but his personality or presentation turns her off of him
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 05:08 AM
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No shit. And the average man isn’t particularly attractively. Most men don’t have skin care routines, bare minimum hygiene, a haircut that suits them if one at all or an eye catching or aesthetically pleasing style. This is all stuff women care about and practice more than men. I highly doubt the majority of women on (this sub) have said a majority of men are flat out unnatractive
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 03:37 AM
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Because statistically men don’t make relatively more than women for women to endure going out with a man just for a free dinner at a 3 star restaurant when she could save the time and money she spent getting ready and spend 40 bucks on wingstop instead. Certain women mostly teenaged and early college aged women might do stuff like this but they’re a drop in the bucket. If the man picked her up, knows where she goes to school or gym or grocery shopping or any number of things she’s probably bette…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 03:34 AM
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I don’t think the average man is very attractively objectively; but frankly the idea that women think 80 percent of men are unattractive is asinine to even entertain and I don’t think I have a single female friend or past lover who would agree with that sentiment, if we’re talking anecdotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 03:28 AM
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Reddit pillers still using that okcupid study? Your premise is false to begin with Women on (dating app) (who rated attractiveness) found 80 percent of men (on said dating app) below average looking (in a random online survey based on a single image of each male) There’s so much wrong with using that study to inform your worldview it’s not even funny and it only takes the slightest bit of critical thinking as to why.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 02:47 AM
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Or you're red pill and just don't want to date a whore. There's more than monkish prude and slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 12:19 AM
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Most women aren't going for guys they're not attracted to. If they aren't attracted to their husbands its usually because they lost attraction to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 12:17 AM
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The vast majority of women aren't dating men they're not attracted to. Hope this helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 08:47 AM
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Yea red pill success is being a fucking hedonist nerd.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 08:42 AM
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Wait thats interesting. For most men, if a woman slept with their bestfriend, that automatically puts her in "fun girl only" territory and can't take her serious, for you it means you would ONLY take her serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 01:56 PM
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Yes: goes to church (preferred) is quiet, is talkative, waiting till marriage, is taller than me, wants to be a SAHM, lives with her parents, in a sorority, is 6'3 (D1 kids) Maybe: different race (as long as shes a person of color), Smokes (as long as its not a vice), is 200 lbs (if shes like 6'0+ sure, body fat ratio matters more than total weight), in the military, same name as my mom, 1000 miles away No: asexual, different religion, alcoholic, of, 2 kids, 50 partners, gets drunk every week, r…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 01:52 PM
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Who honestly gives a fuck? I've made my interest known in multiple coworkers before, and I have been turned down either outright or subtley and im sure they told other female coworkers. I genuinely do not give a fuck. I talk to them like normal and I don't get any weird energy back because I'm open about everything. What, are they giving dirty looks? Making snide comments about you? Laughing behind your back? What's the fear here, genuinely? You like someone and you made that known and now every…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 02:55 PM
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Mfs hurt but wont reply
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 09:06 AM
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You’ll fall in deaf ears. Most of these guys know exactly what to do to stop being losers. The point is they’re so far gone into their inceldom that they don’t care to. They generally don’t find women attractive as life partners because they rarely actually interact with them, so they have a conception of an idea of the average woman and theoretically would rather use them as human flesh lights than date them. Problem is, they’re either too autistic or socially stunted or terrified of interactin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 09:43 AM
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It’s usually a combination of both. In Reddit forums like this I’d say most of the incels have unhealthy views towards women that leak into their interactions with them or lack thereof, and that could stem from having no social skills
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 11:27 AM
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No they don’t. They laid in spite of it or they hide it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 11:25 AM
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Not having a shitty personality =/= being an antisocial cowardly mouse of a man
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 11:06 AM
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Both but mostly nature
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:51 AM
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Reddit man refuses to believe that he’s not getting laid because he has a horrible personality and it must be because he’s not a top 0.001% Chad (ironically why women don’t like him)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:50 AM
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Nope, this is wrong and any guy agreeing either doesn't get laid (so they're coping about why they aren't getting selected; its because of their shitty personality) or is terrible at having sex. Literally just listening to her and communicating will do the trick. Women aren't going to have sex with someone 9/10 if they aren't attracted to them lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:15 AM
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Men actually are more ambitious and assertive on average
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 01:19 PM
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Holy yap. There is a femininity but there isn't a masculinity? Just because women can be masculine doesn't mean they ought to be. There are sex differences in male vs female brains on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 10:39 AM
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Not at all lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 01:28 PM
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No, I disagreed with your conclusion and added another clarification. Being nice doesn’t detract from getting laid, it also helps you get a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:13 PM
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No. Being a pushover is the opposite; being nice helps you get a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:11 PM
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One group will say this. Another group will say this but add that women in-fact say opposite; when women say they want a good man they think that women are saying that all you need to do is be nice regardless of your attractiveness, to get laid. No woman has ever said or meant that however, and it should be really plainly obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 03:59 PM
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No, she's saying that personality and niceness aren't one in the same in regards to dating. Every woman wants a guy who is nice/kind, but he needs to have an actual personality that isn't build around inserting nice coins for sex, thats not a nice guy, thats a weak loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 03:08 PM
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No, ive been here long enough to see countless men peddling the idea that women say this, I'm saying that they're full of shit OR they are willfully mishearing or not-understanding what people say when they do say to "be yourself" or "be kind." They're taking it it ultra literally in an autistic manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 03:06 PM
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That is a moral judgment. "You're a tacit misogynist and you won't admit you're misogynist, but women can just tell it from your actions" IS an accusation of holding bigotry. Bigotry is morally bad. I never said it was good or bad, you did. And if the shoe fits, then it fits. I described someone who holds views that women don't like and that is painfully obvious to the women they're trying to get with which turns them away. That specifically can imply that that they think you're a bad person alt…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 03:04 PM
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No woman has ever said all you have to do to get a mate is be nice. Being nice is helpful and a requirement for most but they never said it’ll get you a girl even if she thinks you’re ugly. This is the type of stuff that men with zero social ability peddle because it doesn’t take much thinking to come to the conclusion that women still need to be physically attracted to their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:37 PM
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This is silly. Women are still getting approached and they don't mind, as long as you aren't being pushy and creepy after she lets you down, or you aren't approaching them while they are literally in the middle of doing something important and its not a dark alley or parking lot. The fear mongering men have online about not approaching girls comes from overconsuming that content from the minority of women who don't want to be approached, as-well as using it as an excuse and coping mechanism for …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:40 AM
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You do realize that bigD energy is a compliment, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:24 AM
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All of this is taking place in your mind. Creepy isn’t a moral judgment; it’s an observation and a statement of how your actions are coming across to someone. Someone saying that you are being creepy means your behavior towards a woman are seen as weird and your intentions towards her are unclear or indiscernible because of your actions. This is not a moral judgment on their end, they just don’t know you. Being autistic doesn’t absolve you of responsibility for how people receive you, it’s not t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 08:09 AM
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For me, having a boundary around one-on-one hangouts with the opposite sex isn't about distrusting my partner's fidelity. It's more about proactively creating an environment that minimizes potential temptations and acknowledges the complexities of human emotions. As someone here wisely said, we're not purely rational beings, and close, individual interactions can sometimes lead to unexpected feelings, even with the best intentions. It's also about recognizing that others might have different int…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:58 AM
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As far as I’m concerned this is all speculation and hearsay. I’ve no reason to think women’s dismissal of some men because of their undiagnosed neurological conditions as a judgement on their moral goodness. Men say this all the time on the sub and it reads like projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:01 AM
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If you stop viewing women as sex dispensaries and see them as people then your issue goes away. And stop befriending women whom you’re highly sexually attracted to. Genuine friendships require emotional intimacy regardless of the genders
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:59 AM
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You don’t need to like the same hobbies, values are most important and it’s not hard to find that
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:49 AM
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Im not convinced. I’m sure some men take their lack of success to mean women think this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:45 AM
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Ive yet to see any strong evidence suggesting a majority of women think romantically unsuccessful men are such because they are morally repugnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 05:03 PM
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I’m not sure what aa is but I’m not white. Im also not sure why any of that is relevant. You’re free to believe what you want but the data supports my point. No one has ever claimed being kind alone will let you sleep with someone but it is a prerequisite to most for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 09:18 PM
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Those guys didn’t act awful towards women until they were already entangled. Also lol at including Dahmer. Also, why would you want to attract the type of women that Manson did??? It’s like you redpill guys have zero self awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 09:08 PM
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Ah more thinly veiled nice guy asshole rhetoric based on a faulty reading of one study More on todays news; good looking psychopathic guys who are charismatic can get girls by hiding their behavior until the women are already entrenched with them Also on todays news; water is wet
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 09:04 PM
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Shocking, a man more rich than 90 percent of the population and allegedly charming could get women despite not being a good person. For he rest of us those things absolutely do matter, kindness being one of the most statistically significant factors people report when it comes to mate selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 08:58 PM
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Lmao 😭😭😭 get off Reddit touch grass talk to women. Until you stop thinking women are all the same you will stay miserable etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 08:43 PM
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No, she’s right. Women do sleep with all types of men so emulating a famous douchebag means you’re just a less capable one
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 08:40 PM
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What about his morals? His goodness? His spirituality?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 08:39 PM
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Maybe you’re not self aware but I am keenly aware of my actions and their effects and I’m certainly aware of my attitude towards women. I actually see them as humans and viable partners lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 08:38 PM
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Sure there’s a reason, the weakness I see in these men profoundly disturbs me on a fundamental level. I want better for my gender. So fixated on women and getting laid as though that’s the only thing to aspire to and then going about that the wrong way. It’s frankly disgusting and the men of history would be appalled. I couldn’t care less what you think, my assessment of this forum is closer to objective reality than whatever flimsy nonsense you’re trying to pedal here about everyone having opin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 04:30 PM
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I’ve never claimed nor aspired to be a “nice guy” because a nice guy doesn’t go around calling himself that. And he certainly doesn’t think inserting nice coins earns him sex points like a good chunk of dudes here thinks. That’s not a nice guy, that’s a coward.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 04:14 PM
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Because I view women as people? Lmao. Most of these guys are social rejects who have extreme fomo from watching red pill degen content creators about fucking a million bitches and get frustrated that their lack of looks can’t compensate for their lack of personality or undiagnosed neurological conditions. So they sit around on forums like this ruminating on how their lack of play is women’s fault and talk about nice guys and assholes like that shit actually exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 03:59 PM
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I mean, is she willing to help me reach her level? I wouldn't remain where im at and date a woman like that. I'd feel like the woman- so to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 03:06 PM
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Most of these guys know they're genuinely awful to be around. They know they only see women as a means towards satisifying their sexual urges. They just don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 02:58 PM
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N = 355
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 02:22 PM
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Unless you are quite literally socially stunted there is no way you grew up thinking that being nice equals getting girls. The guys who think like that aren't nice people; they just want to insert nice coins to get sex points. Kindness has been studied to be an attractive trait. Some of these guys seem convinced that women are going around telling men that as long as youre nice even if you're ugly, you'll get a girl. Which no woman has ever fuckin said in the history of man kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 07:28 AM
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A few but I’m voluntarily celibate and monk mode, I’ve only asked women to hang out platonically in this time span. Most guys you’ll find here though have checked out of dating due to having undiagnosed neurological conditions that inhibit their ability to socially calibrate correctly and aren’t handsome enough to make up for it so they take it out on women and check out of dating completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 01:59 AM
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Okay, so don't date unconfident women and women will continue to prefer confident men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 09:13 AM
2

I wish more men on this forum and other places would do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 09:12 AM
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Men who "give up" on dating either Hate women Are undiagnosed autistic and don't know how to cope with their lack of social awareness which leads to bad dating life which leaves to doompilling Are just plain terrified of approaching girls and use the slop they consume online as proof to justify their cope for checking out
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 09:10 AM
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I think you're combining a valid point with one that doesn't support the conclusion. A lot of men should have higher standards, fact. But the correct conclusion to this is that mens low standard has inherently lowered the bar for women who want relationships, in terms of the effort that a woman is willing to put forth. Not that women take men who will fuck anything, wanting to fuck them, as validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 11:43 AM
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Have no issues being friends with women I'm not attracted to. A lot of guys here can't conceptualize the idea of being a friend with a woman because they think the stuff that constitutes being an actual friend for some reason is stuff you only give a woman when she's giving you sex. Why would they go out of their way to form a connection with a female if shes not sleeping with them? To them, the primary reason for interacting with women is to further the ultimate goal of sleeping with them. And …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 10:51 PM
0

Spoken like a man that needs to lie to get women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 01:34 AM
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There is no good dating manual period. The red pill is good for the self improvement side; but the movement has been hijacked by content creating grifters that want to sell their program and idealize a hedonist toxic lifestyle from which can come no peace. Take all the information that is useful and discard the rest. The blue pill saying of be yourself is the best advice if you actually want a positive relationship, which it seems the sex-starved incels that populate forums like this don't care …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 08:18 PM
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Oh my god. One tiktok trend vs.... How many songs do we have about women's asses? Tits? Performing oral on a man? And women are supposed to be the sensitive irrational gender? Lol QFT. Overreacting to tiktok is crazy. No one is demonizing you for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 04:10 AM
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You’re a man, you see things through men’s eyes. I know plenty of women who date and are crazy about guys that if I were a woman wouldn’t touch with a 10 foot pole. Unless you are genuinely disfigured + rich it’s not hard to imagine an unconventionally attractive guy getting girls. Hell I’m average on my best day and never had issues getting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 12:10 AM
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Ive heard it my entire life and never once thought it meant to literally not put in any effort. Are you on the spectrum by any chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 12:07 AM
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No, you absolutely should be yourself if the goal is to have a healthy relationship, with anyone for that matter. If you JUST want to have tons of vapid casual sex with vapid whores then sure, tailor your personality to whatever the fuck is useful,. But if you actually want a good relationship then you should be yourself and find someone that appreciates who you actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 12:05 AM
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Women by and large don't date men that disgust them, even more, women don't date men that they're not physically attracted to to begin with. The idea that red pill men have, about women going after them just for their non-existent money that the average man simply doesn't have, is fucking asinine. I'm sure there are some cases of this happening with rich guys who are old but that shit is more prevalent in movies than in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 11:48 PM
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You can't argue against the fact that women nowadays have more personal social and career agency than before which leads to less dependence on men which leads to less women (and therefor men) being in less compelled relationships. Just another thinly veiled "nice guys lose assholes win" post spouting nonsense about women liking "dark triad" personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 12:17 PM
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I’m not sure what that would be the case but sure
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 06:38 AM
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Kinda missing the point here. Cold approaching doesn’t work most of the time unless the girl is really attracted to you. But It still happens, ie girls get approached by guys they find attractive all the time. I’ve seen my friends do it, I’ve done it. Hell we’ve had competitions on who can get the most numbers in a day before. Superstars and athletes still step down on girls who they don’t know personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 06:08 AM
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The same reason every other man does. Even if you’re really attractive you still have to approach first most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 05:53 AM
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No, autistic women do have better social intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 01:06 PM
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"virgin shaming" is hilarious. Most people call incels those whom don't get women and say incel shit. Simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 12:56 PM
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no shit...incel itself is a sexual status adjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 12:41 PM
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You described the exception not rule. The average "jock" is getting girls. Hence hes not called incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 12:39 PM
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I never said that outward emotional expression should only happen when someone dies—I was specifically talking about crying in those moments. (To be clear, those are the only times I cry to begin with.) That doesn’t mean I suppress all my emotions; I just handle them in a calmer, more controlled way. As for the studies you mentioned, I’m aware that emotional repression can be harmful, but I don’t think being stoic or selective about how I express emotions automatically equates to poor emotional …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 01:38 PM
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Genuinely couldn't have said it better myself, nothing else to add to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 09:46 AM
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Im glad that works for your relationship. But I don't think handling emotions in a more reserved or stoic way is inherently immature. Emotional maturity is less about how emotions are shown and more about how well they're managed. Some people process things better internally or prefer to discuss their struggles in a calm, matter-of-fact way—and that can be just as healthy. It's not about avoiding emotions; it's about expressing them in a way that aligns with someone's personality and comfort lev…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 09:42 AM
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Assuming you're asking in good faith. So the video basically points to a confident man, she said a man who is strong in his convictions and knows himself and isn't afraid to show the world. You're describing a man who is actively venting about his fears and problems and opening himself up for ridicule, that's not exactly the same thing. Crying and expressing deep seated issues and insecurities you have is not "sexy" to the majority of women. Its an emotional bonding moment potentially yes but it…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 07:05 AM
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I would say most of the men that I’ve seen express this sentiment do so because they view interacting with a woman as steps towards a prize and that prize or reward for taking her on dates on spending time with her is sex, rather than the getting to know her as the reward itself. And then they rationalize this lack of reward as being the fact that she’s not that attracted to him. And that itself stems from an irrational fear of being used for money and resources that the majority of men don’t po…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 09:59 PM
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Actually, most men who get mad get mad about the fact that they feel a woman values them less, because she isn't jumping into bed with him, not because he only sees value in her having sex with him. They get mad because they feel like she doesn't value him as much because shes not sleeping with them, because sex is their only or primary motivation for interacting with said woman. A man to whom sex was a tertiary concern in his involvement with a woman would probably not be fixated on the idea of…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 11:45 AM
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Most women have more body hair than you'd expect. A lot of them just shave their legs and arms to appeal to societal standards so you'd never know until you know them intimately. While being overweight can cause a host of conditions, its one thing to criticize that and another thing to suggest that having saggy tits or large labia or body hair is due to women being overweight. The majority of cases for women that fit these descriptions, that isn't the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 11:32 AM
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The vast majority of women with large labia, however you define it, don't have PCOS or rare hyperandrogenism conditions and those hormonal imbalances are usually temporary lol. While weight can impact breast size, any girl regardless of weight can and will experience breast drooping as they age especially if their breasts are average or above average in size, which again, is not dependent on weight. What is "excess body hair"??? Wrinkles and grey hair come no matter what as you age, stress and e…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 11:23 AM
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So while most of these are natural features and a lot of guys do not like them (although what young guy do you know prefers women with wrinkles and grey hair?), its not like the average woman has all of these traits. Its like saying, natural women are built a certain way and the ones that guys idealize are fake and or extremely rare eg natural breasts or labia look like x and those are what 'real life natural women have.' Every girl I know with perky breasts and round butts are natural too. Like…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 11:11 AM
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-Body hair Nothing to do with lifestyle. -Saggy boobs Aging related, nothing to do with lifestyle. Happens to all women but largely women with larger breasts tend to sag earlier. -Stretch marks Anyone thats skinny that gains weight can get stretch marks. I got some stretch marks from going to the gym putting on muscle from being underweight and im extremely lean lol. -Wrinkles Lifestyle and environment can cause premature wrinkles but thats also mostly genetics and aging. -Pimples and blemishes …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 10:59 AM
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OP, women don't date men that they aren't attracted to for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 09:25 AM
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Not being autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 08:04 AM
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I mean thats what a lot of the red pill content creators are on. They feel resentful that they have to be men. I mean you have people posting about how unfair it is that women get laid whenever they want. Truth is, most of these guys are on the spectrum or really young or black pilled isolationists, they don't care about being masculine. They just want to indulge in a lifestyle of hedonism that they feel like they've been cheated out of by their genetics or feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 09:23 AM
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Most women in real life don't mind being cold approached correctly. I made a post a while ago that most women agreed with detailing how and when as to not come across as "creepy." Just be able to read body language and take no for an answer. If the majority of men just knew those two things, most women online, including the introverted ones, would have no issues saying they don't mind. A good portion of women have experiences with men who were overtly pushy, can't read body language or take no f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 09:16 AM
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This post is stupid respectfully. It seems to come from a chronically online place fueled on confirmation bias and insecurity. The vast majority of women are in fact sexually attracted to men’s bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 02:25 AM
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It’s not an insult so much an observation or an educated guess. Also female incels exist. I don’t see any irony here. You’re lamenting that you can’t humble ugly women who talk about getting laid without getting called an incel. The truth is, only an incel would care about anyone, let alone a woman, getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 07:01 AM
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Because only an incel would say something like that. A normal guy doesn’t gaf about a whale woman bragging. She knows and every other woman knows that guys are easy, no one thinks it’s an impressive feat. You sound like an incel because only an incel cares enough to try and humble a woman for something like that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 06:30 AM
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Sucks to suck OP. Stop comparing your sex life-to women. Women have a trillion more options for sex but way less options for safe sex that’s actually enjoyable with someone that isn’t a threat to them. Not a single woman alive disagrees that men will sleep with anyone that lets them; I think you just wanted an excuse to vent and lament about not getting casual sex. Not that casual sex is even anything to aspire to, it gets boring and vapid after a while . Women don’t GAF about other women having…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 06:26 AM
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No shit. Guys will fuck anything. This is something most people realize freshman year of highschool. Not a single woman disagrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 06:22 AM
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You can get sex from other men really easily actually. Women are a bit more picky however.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 06:05 AM
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My question is...why the fuck do you care OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:30 AM
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Literally every example of a dad bod girls post is a non lean muscular dude. Anything short of an offensive lineman or sumo wrestler will give you a boost.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 09:34 PM
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Are you kidding me lol I've seen it a shit ton of times. About 90 percent of women you meet will have a story like this, whether its implied or explicit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 02:02 PM
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Autistic incel community strikes again. Women don’t care if you compliment them; as long as it’s not about their body. Surprise, no one wants a sexual compliment from someone they don’t know or aren’t dating. This is common sense, or it should be
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 04:00 AM
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No she’s not wrong. Most men can tell a girl that a dress looks great. You can compliment a girl at all as long as it’s not sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 03:57 AM
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Maybe if they're really young. But the fact is that women go crazy over muscular dudes with high BF .
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 08:19 AM
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This is untrue. Women love non-lean muscular guys. The guy just has to generally appear like he could protect her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 06:55 AM
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It’s because most of the guys here and in this space are undiagnosed autistic so they physically are incapable of perceiving that their personality is and lack of social awareness are actively inhibiting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 08:55 PM
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Yeah pretty much this
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 08:52 PM
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Data to support this point? I fail to see the correlation, women are raped at a far higher rate than men who are falsely accused. Honestly, this is a really bad way to get your point across. You're more likely to be raped by another man than to get falsely accused of rape. You're far more likely to be a victim of any other number of life ruining happenstance than being falsely accused of rape. If you want to protect yourself against this irrational fear like I said the best way is to get physica…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 02:52 PM
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Op is fucking insane. False accusations happen but are really rare, rare enough that you don’t really have to worry about them and every woman on earth would run for the hills if you did this. The best way is to text her after the encounter asking if she enjoyed it or get some physical proof she enjoyed the encounter afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 12:11 AM
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No one said ugly awkward men are attractive. Guys like big girls with cute faces, girls like nerdy guys with cute faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:16 PM
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Gay men will say the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:12 PM
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It’s not an observation of how much attention they get. Both men and straight women will agree that women typically look better on average
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:04 PM
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Least obvious hyperbole. Point being the average woman puts more effort into her appearance and is therefore going to be noticeably more attractive than the average man. It’s not rocket science and it’s not a particularly hot take either.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:57 PM
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They very much are lol You’d be in the minority on this
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:46 PM
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The average woman puts 100x more effort into her appearance than the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:41 PM
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Not every guy sees the ultimate culmination of every interaction with a woman as sex. You only see women as walking fleshlights and thats the issue and why you (people with your mentality) won't ever be the husband or FWB guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 12:45 PM
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You can find a literal hoard of women online who talk about wanting a shy nerdy socially awkward boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 11:06 AM
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"It is a complete truth that a stable good guy (no, not even nice guy..but a GOOD stable guy) is less arousing to women that a man who is off kilter and keeping her on her toes. It's like good guys, although good on paper, they lack a lot of qualities that make men attractive, when i say attractive im talking pure raw genuine attraction, not pragmatic attraction. Women dont admit that in hopes of being manipulative or whatever, they simply were also taught thats what a nice guy is and thats what…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 11:04 AM
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This reads like projection
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 10:55 AM
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Honestly, I think most guys are more intrigued by the idea of being promiscuous than anything. I don't think my n count is that high but it gets old. At the end of the day coochie is coochie, and most of my friends with less experience have an idealized version of being a man-hoe that seems more fun than it really is. I think having more experience makes you want to stay loyal than anything. But if you haven't experienced that, some guys think they're missing out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 11:06 AM
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It depends. Did she become religious, does she have a rule of waiting with guys she sees as husband material? I truly wouldn’t care as long as she’s still physically affectionate with me and communicated her interest verbally and non verbally. I would rather only have sex with women I want to marry myself l.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 02:10 PM
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You asked why do women end up In situationships with guys they were hooking up with. That only happens when one party catches feelings and or they’re unable to commit. It doesn’t contradict the notion that the average girl is only immediately hooking up with a guy if they don’t see a future with him right then and there due to worries about being seen as easy. They might come to see him as relationship material afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 08:10 AM
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9/10 she only intended for it to be sexual and her opinion of him changed or she caught feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 08:03 AM
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Sounds fake ngl. Word for word a Reddit incels cuck fantasy about nice guy vs bad boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 07:55 AM
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Usually because the guy lead her to believe they could be more or she thinks they could be more
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 07:24 AM
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Because the intrapersonal relationship you have with your dad and a potential spouse aren’t the same. Because your example has your dad not doing an activity with you while doing the same activity to someone else close to you, compared to a woman simply waiting until she’s comfortable having sex with you. It’s a really poor comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 05:42 AM
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People aren’t food. A woman can be physically intimate with you and express verbal attraction and also express not wanting to have sex yet. We might be animals but we’re not beholden to our instincts.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 05:16 AM
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Your second analogy isn’t relevant to the topic at hand at all. I already answered your first one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 05:02 AM
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The sex is the relationship for you in this case it seems
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 04:56 AM
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Physical interest doesn’t just mean having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 04:56 AM
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The framing itself is crazy. Having sex with someone isn’t treating them better or worse. It’s a mutual activity. And to play along sure, if the girl actually wanted to be with him and not just for his money then she wouldn’t care if he wanted to take things slower with her. But you can’t conceptualize that because at your core you primarily value women as sex dispensers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 04:52 AM
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Actually studies do correlate niceness with attractiveness I’m not sure who told you otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 04:34 AM
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This is all done away with the fact that Women can show you that they’re physically attracted to you without having sex with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 04:31 AM
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That’s not what anyone was arguing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 04:25 AM
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If the man actually wants a relationship with her he wouldn’t and shouldn’t mind waiting until she’s comfortable having sex with him. I’m not sure what makes the girl less desirable or how he has to jump through hoops.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 04:22 AM
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You only see it as treating him worse because you only want to interact with her to get sex
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 04:19 AM
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Most women are, just not to every particular guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 04:18 AM
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Missing the point. 1; you’re still looking at the frame that the goal of interacting with her is to get sex, and if that’s the case you could expedite the whole process by telling her that. 2. She could be as equally attracted to you and still make you wait because she wants a future with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 01:08 AM
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A… Partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 01:05 AM
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If spending money carried the same risks and social implications why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 01:02 AM
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The issue is looking at it as "in order to have sex" to begin with. The average woman is only sleeping with guys immediately if she doesn't think they're relationship material. If your goal is to just hookup you should just communicate that, but you won't because you know it won't get you laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 12:56 PM
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These replies are fucking stupid. Women aren't sleeping with men at all if they aren't attracted to them. I have no clue where men get this idea. The only time that happens is in dead bed room marriages where the attraction fucking died. Previously promiscious women aren't making men wait because they're less attracted to them, they're making them wait because they don't want to come off as whores and see the guy as more than just hookup material. Its a compliment, im not sure why guys don't get…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 10:59 AM
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No, because they’re not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 03:21 AM
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Most of the highlighted replies are just women saying that they had higher standards for looks for their casual partners. Doesn't mean that they weren't attracted to their long term partners or even that the men they dated were hotter.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 02:04 AM
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100 percent. The guy who can’t lock down a single woman and only gets transient relationships isn’t much of a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 04:10 AM
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Beta provider doesn’t really exist aside from really old millionaires with obviously younger woman who want their inheritance. Most women won’t even go on a date with a man they wouldn’t hypothetically sleep with/aren’t attracted to, contrary to incel popular belief. Now if the sexual chemistry dies later on that’s different. But most unnatractive men end up with unnatractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 04:09 AM
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Creepiness isn't just about intent, its about impact. You can have totally normal intentions in your mind but still be perceived as creepy to someone else. Usually socially stunted or autistic guys are most likely for this to happen to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 07:18 AM
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The data doesn't say how or why these divorces occur. Most couples could benefit a lot from vetting better.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 11:09 AM
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The woman is right. Sex dating and marriage are all mutually consented events and behaviors. As a man I don't get "chosen" to have sex with. I wish men would stop parroting this ridiculous idea. It makes you sound like you are desperate and will date anyone looks at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 11:08 AM
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No, it helps, just not enough to overcome being physically repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:19 PM
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No, you’d be surprised how more common it is for personality traits to be considered physically attractive for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 11:56 AM
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Those women probably do find kindness sexy, women are more likely than men to find personality traits physically attractive or add to physical attractiveness, but no woman has said thats ALL you need.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:43 AM
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Those traits are attractive but they can’t makeup for an otherwise lack of physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:52 AM
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You were told flat out that when it comes to getting a partner that looks do not matter at all? I mean okay but that’s a lot more rare than the more common case of men misinterpreting personality being more important in a relationship than looks. What posts have you seen that say verbatim looks do not matter at all when getting a partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:38 AM
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I don’t think this is the case as all. By default you have to be physically attracted to your partner and no woman on earth will deny this. Some men just interpret being told that personality matters into thinking it can create physical attraction where there is none.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 02:56 AM
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No they aren’t. I’m not sure why some men lost all common sense but no woman in the history of man’s kind has ever told their male relative that being nice is the same as being sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 02:53 AM
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This should be common sense
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 11:58 PM
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This only stems from men viewing women as valuable for sex though rather than companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 01:03 PM
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We do. I do. Not sure where this conception comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 09:05 AM
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OP seems super socially inept. And under the false pretense that most women or even a sizeable portion of them will sleep with you on the first date if they "actually like you."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 07:13 AM
1

To be honest, I don't blame them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 09:32 AM
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There is not a pervasive social pressure in western society that forces men to be providers and there hasn't been one for decades. Post-third wave feminism western society trends towards egalitarian households and androgynous gender roles for the most part. No man is trapped into doing anything he doesn't want to do. Women have been taking on masculine roles in western society in increasing fashions for the better part of the last 40 years. Yes, a good portion of women are still traditional and …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:07 AM
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"People change a lot during their lifetimes and will often develop into a direction that's not longer compatible with their partner." You don't just change in a way thats incompatible with your partner lol. Vet your partners better.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 11:31 PM
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". Men are being sold a lie that this model still benefits them, but it’s clear it only serves one side. Relationships today should be built on mutual effort and shared responsibilities—not men destroying themselves for a system that fundamentally doesn't work for most of us." Sold by who? How does it only serve one side? How doesn't it "work" for us? If I want to be a provider man I want a traditional and feminine woman who will help raise our kids while I work. I don't want my kids being raise…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 11:20 PM
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No it doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:34 PM
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Women don't actually prefer those traits, those men are just good at hiding them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 01:06 PM
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Family oriented traditional likes old school soul music good at planning/organizing (im not) genuinely sweet
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 09:33 AM
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Talking about Zac efron yeah because in his case it’s especially impressive because he used to be very skinny. Discipline is universally an attractive character trait. But without context or you look at how women react to natural mesomorphs like football players who’ve been jacked their entire lives the reaction isn’t different.
/r/seduction14/11/24 04:18 PM
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Well okay, but I was referring to women who are oogling at a mans body to begin with.
/r/seduction14/11/24 11:18 AM
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Thread has a couple hilarious women. You can find dozens of compilations of hot dudes getting approached by women. The truth is women definitely can develop intense physical attraction for someone they just saw, but in most cases it wont go anywhere unless he starts the interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:46 AM
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FYI most people have different standards for who they will fuck vs who they will commit to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:39 AM
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Women ARE attracted to physical traits. https://youtu.be/0avuIqeergQ?si=y2rd9Pooemv_mdfJ https://youtu.be/-eEYlrWMXLk?si=-XXL7k3QLAoQccpz I promise you no woman is ooglibg over a ripped dude thinking about his discipline.
/r/seduction12/11/24 10:37 PM
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Ah yes because women stop liking muscles at 30
/r/seduction12/11/24 10:20 PM
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Women like muscles too https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8Ly1baV/ Here’s a tiktok video of a woman going feral over some biceps and thousands of comments doing the same.
/r/seduction12/11/24 08:55 PM
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https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8Ly1baV/ Here’s a tiktok video of a woman going feral over some biceps and thousands of comments doing the same. You can find dozens of complications of women lusting over muscles. Men just don’t understand the proper CONTEXTS for those moments.
/r/seduction12/11/24 08:54 PM
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The point is most women aren’t even going on dates unless she is attracted to him. All of those cases are because of what happens after they get together; they lose attraction for one reason or another. Whether it be because of emotional neglect or their partner let’s themself go. Or any number of mental/physical issues. The idea that women are just turning 30 and picking some rich old simp because they couldn’t get Chad while they lust after the hot pool boy is a redpill scare tactic. Most of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:45 PM
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Have nice biceps/forearms and roll up your sleeves.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 10:13 PM
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"Do you like women as people or are they just a means to get laid to you? Based on the post, it seems like the latter. That really means you shouldn't be friends with them for both of your sakes." QFT. I would say you should acquire the ability to see women as purely platonic creatures to have a mutually fulfilling bond with.
/r/seduction04/11/24 09:34 PM
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99.99 percent of women won’t date a man they’re not physically attracted to. The idea that a woman will willingly go out with a man she’s not even into just because of his “resources” is crazy because most men don’t have that type of money to begin with. There’s a very small percentage of men who attract gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 06:34 PM
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Realistic in what sense?? The girl has already chosen you for a reason. Meaning she already thinks you’re attractive enough to be with. 9/10 a girl that gets with an nfl player usually has access to other high value men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:33 AM
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Lot of dudes in here need therapy. Saying they would leave her because clearly she's setting because they can't possibly compare to him. Once again not realizing that looks only matter so far as getting in the door; once you're in the door, personality compatibility matters more. If you're in the door in this situation, you've already won. This girl can get nfl players but wants to be with you for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 11:15 PM
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This is stupid. Women report and are more likely to get STDS biologically more and report STDs more today than they did in previous years.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:46 AM
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I need you to understand sexual desire isn’t a need in the way most people think of it or in the context of a friendship. If you’re going out of your way In general and she doesn’t come through for you in your time of actual need then you need better friends. But her need being someone to talk to when she’s sad vs your need being your dick sucked isn’t the same at all. Most people in real life women especially would find it hard to be sympathetic because you’re essentially saying you aren’t a re…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 07:08 AM
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It seems like you have the inherent idea that interacting with women is only useful in so as far as they are fucking you or helping you fuck other women. You're viewing something like friendship as a laboring task to which the reward in an ideal world would be sex. Shes your friend, not your lover, why wouldn't she be fucking someone else? The reward for being a good friend is the friendship itself, the loyalty and emotional bonds and shared experiences that come with it. Friendship isn't about …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 01:45 PM
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Holy shit fucking based. Most of these red pill guys are complete degenerates who feel left out of an idealized version of life that consists of banging a new chick every other day just because they're sex starved. Having tons of completely vapid and meaningless sex with strangers thats risky in and of itself is way less impressive than conquering one woman for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 01:35 PM
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Correlation =/= causation. Men with psychopathic tendencies can hide them and manipulate people well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 09:49 AM
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Depends. Girls who are cautious about that usually have the same attitude toward sex and not wanting a high n count partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 09:45 AM
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why are you being friends with anyone, let alone women, to get something from it? Why not just make your interest known and then walk away when its not reciprocated...?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 09:40 AM
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Why do you compartmentalize following as being lesser than?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:29 PM
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I've done it out of pity once. But yea I can imagine that it doesn't really happen as much as a lot of red pill guys think. I think in a lot of these cases they probably said or did something to turn off a woman who was previously interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 10:56 AM
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Id love it. There's a certain type of woman in this thread who absolutely abhor the idea of deferring to their man and following his lead. They see being the traditionally masculine role as the only right way for themselves and anything less means they aren't equals. In reality the feminine and masculine are two different and equally important roles. But they're unable to comprehend this either because they're genuinely more masculine brained or because they've been convinced that women should a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:15 AM
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Its a man job to lead. Some people prefer these traditional relatinoships and it works out for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:58 AM
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Sex for women carries more risks like high levels of dissatisfaction. Also the idea that only a small few men are getting laid and most men are sexless is just a complete lie and not backed up by any studies. The average man dates and has sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:20 AM
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This just isn't true. Women generally wouldn’t date a man they also wouldn't have casual sex, if they're the type of woman to have casual with. The only exception is the rare few women who date rich guys near the end of their life to secure their inheritance or something, which is extremely rare lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 11:48 AM
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This just isn’t true. Some women don’t just immediately sleep with every guy they find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 08:52 AM
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On the contrary a lot of women will holdout on sex with a guy she's interested in precisely because they know thats what most men are after. If a woman wants a committed relationship she has more to lose from quickly sleeping with a guy. The sex could be bad and now she's upped her body count and he may simply just leave after getting what he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 04:33 AM
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Contrary to what you've read, most men still want committed relationships. For the minority that don't, its because they generally only see women as value for sex. They don't see the value in a relationship because they don't think women contribute more being blowjob machines in a relationship. Their logic is, I can cook and clean for myself, and I don't particularly enjoy having any sort of platonic or emotional connection with women, so there's no point in committing to one. You'll hear most r…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 04:22 AM
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Also the idea that women only date 6’3 rich chads is the most chronically online bullshit I have ever heard in my life. Genuinely I can’t express how stupid and disconnected it is. It’s cope for average men who are socially stunted and too lazy to work on themselves either mentally or physically.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 01:04 AM
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Most men aren’t worth dating though. Genuinely if I was a woman I would have higher standards than the average man too. Society isn’t a alls fair and equal and everyone ends up happy life. Competition is good. Some men are disadvantaged,either through being extremely bad looking or having mental disorders that effect them socially. That’s unfortunate. You still aren’t entitled to a girlfriend or a fuck buddy. Also, men collectively raise women’s standards because they’ll fuck everything that ope…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 01:01 AM
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No you can't. And being charismatic is a skill. This post comes across as autistic IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 12:52 AM
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sweetness and femininity
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 12:47 AM
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Sex without emotional connection is pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 01:33 AM
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The friendzone isn't real, no one is putting a gun to your head and forcing you to keep interacting with a woman whom doesn't like you or you don't have the balls to ask out.
/r/seduction13/10/24 05:55 AM
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You can and should give your friend emotional support.
/r/seduction13/10/24 05:54 AM
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Some do. Not really. Men in this sub and in the redblack pill community hate sluts that wont sleep with them. They also don't give them the grace of being able to change their ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:48 AM
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A lot of self proclaimed red pill guys are hypocrites. They don't like whores but they do or would if given opportunity, taint every pretty woman who opens their legs to them, further damaging them. That said I do want a traditional woman and try my best to be a traditional man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 11:50 PM
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It does makes a difference. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/09/190919122506.htm "Students were given eight attributes they could spend "mate dollars" on: physical attractiveness, good financial prospects, kindness, humour, chastity, religiosity, the desire for children, and creativity. While there were some differences in behaviour between Eastern and Western students -- there were also some remarkable similarities. People typically spent 22-26% of their total budget on kindness, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 10:50 PM
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The point isn't that and never has been that being nice gets you laid or on dates. Its a bonus point and makes you more attractive as a long term partner, which studies support.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 10:40 AM
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They probably have toxic traits that they aren't keenly aware of or are more self destructive than harmful to other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 10:38 AM
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Correlates with higher unsuccessful relationship rates and may harm your ability to pair bond.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 10:32 AM
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Women don’t date guys they wouldn’t hookup with generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 04:33 PM
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This is just wrong. Men are more set in their view. Women aren't as immediately physically lust based.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 06:22 AM
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Attractive implies better than average. Average is neither overwhelmingly positive nor repulsive. Its a combo of good and bad. Most guys are average and most guys are still getting dates, hooking up and getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 06:21 AM
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Men on here are given that advice because they: Have trouble reading body language, so they can't tell when someone wants to be in a conversation with them or not Come on too strong, too fast Have a lot of trouble handling rejection. Telling people to let a relationship develop naturally tends to help curve expectations and blunt hurt feelings. There's nothing wrong with cold approaching if you can read body language well and handle a rejection gracefully. But not everyone can.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 11:01 PM
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No. Im not interested in someone who has a lot of casual sex. A lot of men also get the idea that if a woman doesn’t fuck them on the first second third etc date than she’s not attracted to them. Contrary to popular belief, not all women are whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 10:48 PM
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You missed the point entirely. The fact that hes attracted to him is a given, the point is that attraction can be lost or increased based upon behavior. So no, shes not contradicting herself with the two statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 10:00 AM
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I feel like if you’re shoe horning sex talk into conversations with women you barely know or have expressed interest in you, you’re somewhat autistic. Crazy concept: you can both communicate non verbally your attraction to her while also forming an emotional and intellectual connection with her as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:22 PM
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Define "just" friends, as in neither party has sexual or romantic feelings? Yes, as long as both people are unattracted to the other to a large degree. Genuine friends? Sure, even with sexual attraction, you can still be friends and not act on that attraction o have ulterior motives. No unless they're gay, if we're defining friend as someone you keep in at-least semi contact with through texts and media, and see every so often in a planned meet up, and share deep levels of emotional intimacy wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 08:36 AM
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Foreign concept to you, growing up and maturing
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:11 AM
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undiagnosed rates probably go crazy, and most of PPD is probably on the spectrum
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:48 PM
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They don't do better with women, men with those traits tend to have had more children. You don't know how those particular traits manifest in those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:44 PM
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Do you go outside? I cant tell you how many attractive friends or friends i know who legit cant get girls because they lack confidence or struggle with anxiety or fear of rejection etc or are just genuinely boring people to be around. Personality is very much something that can cock block you. In fact its quite literally a meme among women, and has been for generations, about how fine they think a man is, until he opens his mouth. Chris rock did a skit on it to illustrate just how fast women wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:41 PM
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Point 1 is unproven and untrue in my experience. You can't negotiate attraction if it doesn't exist at all, but feelings can develop if she already finds you attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 01:12 PM
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Point 1 is unproven and untrue in my experience. You can't negotiate attraction if it doesn't exist at all, but feelings can develop if she already finds you attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 01:12 PM
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I don’t engage in casual sex anymore to begin with. Just saying it’s not a good idea to have sex with someone you also wouldn’t do oral with. Even a condom isn’t completely stopping sti
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 01:21 AM
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But you'd stick your dick in someone untested?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 01:16 AM
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I honestly doubt that. People still approach in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 01:09 AM
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As a straight man no. Not that being bisexual makes you more likely to cheat, but it does give them more options. Also no for religious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 12:39 AM
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Most of these comments aren't engaging at all with anything important to what OP is arguing here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:32 AM
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You didn't engage at all with the text he provided here and its sources.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:29 AM
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This isnt true man go into the real world
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 04:23 AM
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This is stupid. Self improvement is literally just maximize how you look physically and feel mentally. You don't get pussy as a reward. The idea is it just makes you stand out in a positive way because it demonstrates positive characteristics and it has overall life benefits. And 99 percent of dudes who say "i did everything" just got a haircut and tried a new fashion trend or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 03:33 AM
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Its not about finding someone with the same qualities lol. I don't know why men don't understand this. I am innately unorganized as a man, I want a woman who is organized. Passive people want active people. People who lack confidence want people with confidence. Its not rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 01:02 PM
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No offense but the majority of the people youre asking here are going to be men that have little to no experience with sex, the men that is. But basically foreplay, communication and after-care. Lot of dudes don't realize women take a minute to get turned on and ready.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 05:42 AM
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Sounds like some men I know
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 02:21 PM
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That’s the point. You get Rich or famous so you don’t have to
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 05:26 AM
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Womp womp get rich or famous
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 04:09 AM
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I agree, casual sex isn't a good thing and its unfortunate how much its encouraged nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 09:36 AM
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Legit i tell people stop giving a fuck. People in real life do not care. Most guys in real life still approach women. Its the chronically online fucks that care. All you have to do is make the interaction brief and leave after a no or short answers. Its really simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 09:53 PM
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Nobody cares bro, just go talk to people you find interesting and learn how to take no answer or short answers as disinterest and walk away. Also warm approaching is better.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 06:58 AM
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No actually, mens standards are too low. Thats why women feel like they have a mountain of options to pick from.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 06:56 AM
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This is the singular comment that got it correctly. The bar is only a thing when the coupleship is already a thing. And different women have different bars.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 10:25 AM
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This seems like a no-brainer but women my age especially should disqualify men that make them confused about their intentions. Any guy that seems kinda iffy about what exactly his plans are with you most of the time knows exactly that he just wants to see how long he can maintain a casual sexual relationship with you before you press him to commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 10:54 AM
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Confidence is useful in like every social situation ever. Including dating. Looks get you through the door, confidence, among other traits, keep you in there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 10:49 AM
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Why not??
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 10:47 AM
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I truly don't think anyone unironically says "personality is all that matters"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 10:43 AM
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Women don't friendzone men, men friendzone themselves. First, maximize attractiveness. Mental and physical. Then, go after women who show you interest (assuming you're looking in your own social group), not women who have never even remotely expressed more than platonic interest in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 10:40 AM
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Key context; in the eyes of potential mates.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 06:48 AM
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i dont particularly care. I look at it like this, if a girl is pretty, im going to want to know her beyond a friendly level. If she denies my advance then we can still be acquaintances but i don't go out of my way to be friends with women I would rather date. If I'm not really attracted to her then sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 06:47 AM
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This is stupid. You shouldn’t expect someone to love and value you just for existing. You need to have things about you that are valuable and attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 03:44 PM
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TRP isn't about casual sex. Red pill content creators have turned the focus on how to get casual sex for their degenerate virgin audiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 04:36 AM
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Do the opposite. Show interest and reciprocate on all levels except sexual. A guy who actually likes you will wait. If you get one of those entitled "how dare you not fuck me on the first week" guys you'll have dodged a bullet by not putting out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 04:34 AM
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No... creepy men can still be attractive... Let me get this straight. "If women have a subconscious fear or are aware of the innate potential danger that men possess to them, why does domestic abuse happen?" What? Things like stockholme syndrome exist. Sometimes women have no choice but to remain with their abusive partner. Sometimes they're mentally ill. Generally they don't though. And a lot of men hide their shitty behavior until its too late for the woman. Your example doesn't work regardles…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 04:28 AM
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Not really. Due to our innate sexual dimorphism women have evolved to know subconsciously how much danger the average man possesses to her. Stats go out the window when its a stranger. This is just kinda common sense and what i was talking about in the post, you let down the man who possesses a very real and immediate threat to you if he is violent down as nicely and indirectly as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:29 PM
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You do know that on average women stand a lot more to lose than men when it comes to being direct, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 10:09 AM
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Atleast you’re open about not liking women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 02:19 AM
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Its not a point of view thing. Its a reality thing. The reality is women feel uncomfortable usually when you do x y z thing. The reality is a lot of these men truly lack social acuity and complain about having to read body language. These aren't things you can reasonably disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 01:02 AM
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You can reduce every relationship with this transactional view though
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 02:11 PM
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Not sure how you took this from what was stated
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 02:09 PM
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Its actually astounding to me how many men don't realize that on average they're much bigger or taller and pose a real theoretical threat to the women around them simply due to sexual dimorphism. they can't comprehend that women are evolutionarily aware of this and hence try their best not to OUTWARDLY and directly insult or turn down their advances, for their own safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 01:29 PM
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This is just not true and honestly seems reflective of how you view yourself more than how women view you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 11:03 AM
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Confidence and assertiveness are the trait you’re looking at that women ( and people in general ) like. Highly Disagreeable people are more likely to have those than highly agreeable people probably. Being an asshole in and of itself doesn’t attract girls, but assholes are more likely to be confident assertive people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:25 PM
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No. For one, agreeableness isn't niceness. Two, being nice or agreeable doesn't hinder your chance at getting a girl at all. If anything, extraversion is probably the most important when it comes to attracting girls followed by openness. These assholes get away with it because they have other positive qualities, not because of being an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 07:15 AM
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What? I think you’re misrepresenting the statistic that a certain percentage of young people are single and using that to say that to say average men aren’t with average women. Which doesn’t really work.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 10:53 PM
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This is nuts and not every man is as desperate as you. There are a lot of literal female models that I, an average guy, would NEVER sleep with given chance because they’re not my type. And if you don’t have that same mindset then good luck in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:27 AM
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Because that’s not true. Most average people are together lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:23 AM
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Being nice and respectful works just as well as being a jerk provided you’re also as confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:19 AM
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​ A bunch of casual transient sex isn't success in the long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:31 PM
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This is true. So many of these autistic incels lives would get better if they stopped putting women on a pedestal and treat them like regular people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:06 PM
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Continue dwelling in your bubble in fear of possibly momentarily making someone uncomfortable then. You won't get far in life like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 11:18 AM
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You aren't most people. And not going to lie who cares if you are momentarily uncomfortable?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 10:00 AM
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Oh my god just go approach a girl who isn't actively doing something and you find interesting. If she rejects you, its not the end of the world. For fucks sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 09:58 AM
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Because men have shit standards for who they'll date and fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:40 AM
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Sadly the men here won't listen to you even though you're absolutely correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:40 AM
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Not because they are assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 09:14 AM
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No. Because being confident doesn't make you an asshole lol. Being an asshole isn't beneficial, its just preferable to having no personality at all. There is no subconscious positive correlation. Being confident is rewarding until you get to the point of being an asshole in which case you're still better than being boring but you'll have diminishing returns with most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 09:13 AM
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Bad advice. Women display interest differently for 1. For 2, if he has interest, he has every right to express that. How she reacts is up to her. I have no interest in remaining friends with a woman i like that has no interest in me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 08:19 AM
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no we do lol if you aren't it could just be where you live or something. I see even average looking girls get approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:50 PM
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No. I find it abhorrent. I used to fuck casually and have fwbs but I see much more reward in spending that time working on myself and finding a girl worth marrying.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 11:08 AM
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This isn't true. If you are exceptionally unattractive however I can see how you may have negative confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 10:08 PM
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Yeah to nobody.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 10:02 PM
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It fools both people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 10:02 PM
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Well no. Being an asshole usually means you are confident, but the quality of being confident doesn't come from being an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 10:01 PM
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What? No. I do this knowing full well that most people aren’t decent or genuinely kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 07:00 AM
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What great points?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:48 AM
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Looks only get you in the door. I specifically said personality trait and what will keep the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:47 AM
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Creepy Is whatever makes a person feel creeped out there’s no universal creepiness lol. David’s behavior of singling the girl out was creepy to me too
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:44 AM
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I never stated that though. I stated that it’s better to be polarizing in someway than be boring. Boring in this case is when niceness is your only marketable trait. So yes if you aren’t funny, exciting, talented, inspirational, or just generally fun to be around then yeah being an asshole is better than being a wet sandwich What. The unspoken thing could be a million things. She never said he was perfect, just that he was great. Nothing you’re saying is actually contradicting my argument here. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:41 AM
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No actually a lot of the time they are aware of and feign being normal
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:33 AM
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I also went to school. Not sure how this is an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:31 AM
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What studies?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:30 AM
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No. Because it’s not that you’re an asshole, it’s that you’re polarizing, exciting, confident etc
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:28 AM
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And men with dark triad traits to pretend to not have those traits... For example, if you don’t know a narcissist very well, their overly inflated self-views and tendency to talk about themselves can potentially come across as being talkative and/or confident. Likewise, narcissists and other social manipulators often make an effort to put on a pretty attractive veneer. For instance, they might invest more time and effort into their appearance, surround themselves with symbols of money and succes…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 05:43 PM
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im aware of this study. It doesn’t connect to what’s being argued however
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 05:36 PM
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No no. Because I don’t hold the position that women are selecting the trait to begin with. The trait they are selecting for is confidence and assertiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 03:38 PM
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Not at all. What gives you that impression?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 03:30 PM
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Ding ding ding.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 03:12 PM
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All you're really doing is restating the premise I addressed in the thread though. Emotionally unavailable doesn't even mean asshole, it just means he doesn't let her get intimate with him on an emotional level. The happy go lucky guy could be immature, not as attractive physically, a pushover, or any number of things. Which is why using reddit anecdotes to confirm your world view isn't really fruitful.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 02:40 PM
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Dominant in the sense of liking leaders in their respective clubs or groups? Sure. Dominant in the sense that he actively disrespects or puts down his friend to make people laugh? No. The only meta analysis I could find suggested women are really only attracted to sports dominance Previous research has led to a widely accepted conclusion that heterosexual women prefer mates who are high in dominance. Three experiments designed to distinguish dominance from prestige and examine moderating context…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 02:30 PM
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Yeah Im sure you'll find a lot of cases of young women or psychologically damaged women who don't know what to do when they find a guy that is actually good for them. Or women who settle with a guy whos actually good but isn't physically as attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 02:27 PM
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Women are only attracted to dominance in sports generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 02:25 PM
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And I would argue the traits I listed are the ones they lack. They either are lacking in attractive personality or physical traits. If they look good, then they aren't particularly exciting to be around, they might be boring; not knowing how to be funny or witty or raise the energy of a situation when needed or what have you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 02:22 PM
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Nah. Im confident and I am solidly average. Confidence doesn't come from being a model lol It comes from being self aware and accepting yourself. It comes from detaching yourself from outcomes and knowing you'll be alright regardless of what happens. Yea its easier to be confident if you're super hot and 6'3 and you know it, but that isn't real confidence to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 02:19 PM
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My answer would be, depends on what superman. Women are only attracted to dominance as far as sports and athletics goes. Not so much as men dominating their peers in day to day life. I would say the only girls that really would be attracted to the true genuine asshole you're describing are teenagers and young adults with daddy issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 02:16 PM
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If the asshole is confident and the nice man isn't, yeah. Otherwise you have to be chronically online and or socially inept to think this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 02:13 PM
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Because they are attracted to them physically and they have other personality traits, like confidence, that make them attractive. So they might be assholes but they're attractive in other ways that girls are willing to overlook their negative behavior towards their peers. This is pretty common in highschool, not so much in college and beyond in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 02:12 PM
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Nobody has ever said that being a good person is what it takes to get a girl. They have to be attracted to you first. The point of contention is that being a good guy isn't a turnoff, you just don't have any other traits that make a girl excited about you. You're not funny, spontaneous, intelligent, self assured, etc etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 02:09 PM
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Man what. No woman has ever seen a dude put down his clearly disadvantaged friend and thought that was hot. Confidence is determined by your self assuredness. I am average looking yet I can be extremely confident because I work hard and I'm assertive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 02:07 PM
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Yes. Something people in this thread don't realize. The issue isn't whether or not I trust you, its about being aware of whether or not you are putting yourself in a position where feelings could arrive. When I had a girlfriend, just out of respect for her, I never hung out alone with other women, because even if I know im loyal and would never do anything, I also know that two people that spend a lot of time together can develop feelings for each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:05 AM
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You can be hot and nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:01 AM
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What? No. This is stupid. Being nice on its own just like being mean on its own doesn't attract anyone physically. If you're not getting dates, its not because you're nice. Its because you lack in other areas. The way you talk is as if being nice is draining and or anti-to your normal behavior to the point that you only do it in order to be rewarded for it rather than just being a nice person and having other good traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 10:58 AM
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Great anecdote. David's behavior here, mostly the singling out and disinterest in everyone else but her reminded me a bit of myself at times, good reminder to include everyone with your teasing and kindness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 10:42 AM
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Yeah and I have yet to see a compelling case that that tendency is what attracts girls. Girls get with them because they have other traits that make them attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 10:37 AM
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I would argue those girls got with them despite those traits, not because of them. Where I lived, bullying would usually result in violent retaliation so I never witnessed it much. But I have yet to see a compelling argument for women actually liking seeing those traits rather than just overlooking them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 10:36 AM
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You're not really disagreeing me. The ability to navigate social situations requires confidence and social acuity. But those aren't personality traits. Neither is being attractive. Obviously if you are ugly and or autistic its going to be hard for you. https://www.ucdavis.edu/curiosity/news/research-review-shows-self-esteem-has-long-term-benefits Past research finds evidence that college women prefer a romantic partner who is dominant more than one who is not dominant. However, this research fai…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 10:32 AM
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You can’t get your foot in the door if they aren’t even moderately physically attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 10:04 AM
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I’ve never once thought of not trying to overstep on someone’s boundaries in simple conversations. The idea is to treat people as you want to be treated and if you offend them, apologize and make peace. No I disagree. It’s very easy to flirt while being respectful. It takes confidence to go over to a girl that you find attractive, introduce yourself, compliment her and walk away. Men can’t read minds but we can pay attention to open vs closed body language and speech that indicate whether our pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 10:02 AM
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This is nuts. Because being nice is it’s own reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 09:56 AM
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All you’re really saying is that being an exciting asshole is better than being boring. Which really just connects with the idea that some sort of polarization is better than nothing. Which is true. The point is you don’t need to take those traits to the extreme to attract women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 09:55 AM
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They’re fucking those men despite the negative qualities not because of them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 09:53 AM
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The concept of being alpha in animals vs humans doesn't really apply in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 07:44 AM
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Sorry but I'm going to call BS. Either that or you don't know how to be confident while also being nice. Or you were doing boyfriend stuff before actually being someones boyfriend which is a turnoff.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 07:42 AM
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Yeah I agree. One of my old bosses had the cocky asshole shtick but people liked him because he was funny, worked out and owned the self assured thing, and he also wasn't always like that. I recall one girl telling me how he helped her with her relationship problems or how he would coach people. But he was still kind of a dickhead, but it worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 07:37 AM
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I hear this same sentiment echoed semi-frequently. The idea is that men tend to be kind more to women they are physically attracted to. I think thats true to some extent, but I also think people in general tend to be nicer to people they are attracted to, its a human nature thing. If you're saying that most kind men are really just feigning being nice to the women they want to fuck and if they aren't attracted to you then they're assholes, well I don't agree but I know a lot men like this exist …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 07:24 AM
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There's nothing timid about helping old ladies across the street. I would argue most women would be attracted to that behavior actually. Being competitive and or skilled and successful in your field doesn't require being an asshole in most cases. You can argue about the ethics required to be in the top 0.001 percent in the world in success but if you look at athletes like Nick chubb who is an nfl star famous among his peers and fans for being a genuinely kind person, you see its not needed to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 07:19 AM
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This thread pops up every week so im going to copy paste the same comment i made. Women don't want a guy who necessarily dominates other people or is cocky and has a superiority complex. They also aren't turned off by altruism, good morals and cooperative behavior. All you have to do is understand is that confidence is the most important personality trait when it comes to not only attracting a mate, but friends and people in general. That's it. Confidence. You don't have to be a cocky asshole to…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 05:46 AM
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It isn't. According to that link only 10 percent of that 18 percent of whatever sample size made actual police reports. Again, this shit does not happen in real life if you just remain respectful lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 12:40 PM
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Its really really simple. If she is in the middle of an activity such as reading a book, lifting a weight, talking to someone, don't interrupt her just to talk to her. Wait until she's finished. That's just just common courtesy in general. If she has closed off body language and her responses are short, shes not interested, move along. It doesn't go off the rails in most cases though and that fear comes from being chronically online and autistic imo 9/10. No woman in this fucking planet is going…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 11:05 AM
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Nobody in the history of the world has ever been accused of x y or z from simply going up to a girl and talking to her. That only arrises when a man doesn't know how to take no for an answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 10:03 AM
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This is exactly what these incels on here don't understand. They read posts and rhetoric from other incels who've never actually approached a girl. Women in real life do not care, UNLESS you are clearly interrupting something they are actively doing. As long as you know when to back off . If she seems not interested, you say you've got to go. You don't have to be tall or good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 10:02 AM
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Lord get off the internet this shit doesn't happen in real life
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 10:00 AM
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Men getting it wrong again. Women don't give a fuck if you approach them if they're not the middle of doing something. Women give a fuck when you keep pressing their line after its clear they're NOT INTERESTED.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 09:58 AM
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Nope, nope, and nope. Women don't mind being approached, just don't try to continue the engagement after they've made it clear they're not interested. Some men don't know how to take no for an answer or realize that no answer is an answer, or they do and continue anyway. This is why a lot of women don't like being approached. If you just keep things brief and respectful they don't care, doesn't matter where.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 11:45 AM
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I am a normal man and I have received this attention brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 11:44 AM
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Seems like you're under the impression that being a stay at home wife entails being locked away like a disney princess forced to do laundry and cook food. In reality I would just prefer taking care of my wife while she is the primary homemaker. She doesn't have to work a 9-5 so she's more free to explore her interests and her natural feminineness can flourish better under that IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 01:56 PM
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The porn answer just shows you most of the male users here are degenerate virgins. The real answer is anything that shows the hero's journey.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 10:55 AM
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You took issue with the fact that he wants a very submissive woman instead of a kind of submissive woman? Nothing he said is even remotely similar to what you're saying, so it sounds like projection your part.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 05:26 AM
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This isn't true at all either anecdotally or statistically.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 04:31 AM
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This may be the most misguided post ive ever seen. Women don't want a guy who necessarily dominates other people or is cocky and has a superiority complex. They also aren't turned off by altruism, good morals and cooperative behavior. All you have to do is understand is that confidence is the most important personality trait when it comes to not only attracting a mate, but friends and people in general. That's it. Confidence. You don't have to be a cocky asshole to be confident. Sidebar; the ave…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 04:30 AM
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I will make it simple. For the most part, women will give advice on qualities that they want in a long term partner, not what initially attracts them in the first place. Also for fucks sake being friendly doesn't turn women off. Being a pushover turns women, and people in general, off.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 04:17 AM
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Being submissive and open and willing to take the direction of the man she trusts is a great and beautiful thing. You sound bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 04:09 AM
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Because more women care about their weight than men. Shocker right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 04:07 AM
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upvoted for truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 04:05 AM
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That's the fault of men for being degenerate and depraved.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 09:47 AM
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Maybe she's trying to have morals and standards now sexually??
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 09:44 AM
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Why would a man care about height unless shes a legit midget? The rest can be summarized by TLDR Men have lower standards than women. Woah! Shocking! Most women will tell you that most men are eager and willing to fuck almost anything. And then you list things like money, when traditional roles have dictated that it is the mans job to provide for the woman. Why as a man would I want a woman to take care of me?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 09:42 AM
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Dodging his point. Doesn't matter if some men are on board with it, most men aren't
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 09:39 AM
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In real life, nobody gives a shit. Stop being chronically online and go live real life. Approach whoever you want. The only reason girls give a fuck when a dude approaches them is because a lot of men don't know how to read non-verbal signs a girl is uninterested and wants the interaction to end.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 12:20 AM
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Most of the men here are just here to bitch moan complain about how unfair women's standards are and how they don't deserve to have them blah blah blah. And then preach about how shallow women are which usually stems from the fact that the men are just not physically desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 06:36 AM
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Posts like this seem like they come from a place of ignorance. Like in the sense that people like OP have never actually dated a woman and get their ideas about female nature from red pill videos on youtube.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 07:56 AM
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Which is honestly fucking stupid and hypocritical because red pill men are anything but traditional themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 07:00 AM
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This is silly. Not every man is a degenerate who wants to fuck at the first chance. You don't become charismatic from having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 07:16 AM
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Nah. I want to be the bread winner. I am a traditional man. I want a wife who is also traditional and willing to be a home maker. I want to take care of her and give her the freedom to pursue whatever personal interests she has.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 05:53 AM
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Nah. I'll abstain from sex in general until I'm with a girl whom I see a long term future with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:18 PM
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There is not necessarily any skill involved in intercourse Yikes man. This is just completely unfounded.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:13 PM
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I read the post again. Even in a general sense your ideas don't reflect reality. You seem like someone who has formed parasocial relationships with women who dont know or aren't interested in you at all. Because if you'd actually spent 30 minutes talking to any of these girls or knew how to ask insightful questions you would realize this isn't true. For men who are trying to date and run into this type of wall, after meeting enough women, they realize this: either everyone likes you, or no one d…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:11 PM
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Yea judging from this, respectfully, it doesn't seem like you meet women at all. Just instagram girls that you follow and try to gleam interests from.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 12:56 PM
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a group of 18-young 20 somethings can tell a 30 year old lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 06:28 AM
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Nobody said all this. You’re projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 03:00 AM
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She didn't say any of this though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 11:42 AM
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...Excluding them from what? No one is entitled to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 11:19 AM
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You're one hundred percent right but the men here will berate you and project on you. I don't know about your exact points but a man being completely inexperienced in his mid 20s is a red flag. And the issue is a lot of guys hate hearing that because thats them lol. No one likes feeling like something is "wrong" with them. They might be really unattractive, poor hygiene, have a mental condition or disorder, socially inept etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 10:50 AM
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This isn't true at all lol. Don't stare at me. I take it as a threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 09:14 AM
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No they can't. For the vast majority of women onlyfans doesn't make any money. You need a pre-existing social media following to actually make a decent amount from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 09:12 AM
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What? You basically just said being being submissive is bad because being submissive is bad. It’s only bad if it’s not based on the shrewd and wise decision making on the submissive party to determine their partner is worth putting their trust and faith into to lead them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 08:34 PM
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Subservient is submission in a negative context. To describe one who is excessively submissive to the point of self degradation or harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:35 PM
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That’s insane to me. I grew up in a family with men like this and all of my female relatives display the utmost appreciation and reverence for their husbands. I’m aware it’s more challenging to find a truly traditional woman nowadays but I have before and I believe I will again.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:20 PM
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This seems like projection. I don’t want to be a leader to stroke my ego, I want to be a leader because I believe in my choices and judgments and I want my wife to as well. Because it is my job as man to lead, to inspire and to help others. Being a leader or a follower aren’t bad things. In any given situation everyone is one or the other. The bad thing is when you can’t accept what you are and try to do both.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:18 PM
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This is a great. Awesome job. I made a thread that further breaks down how to avoid being perceived as creepy to women that girls almost universally agreed with here. But you already are on the right path. Just continue to work on your physical and mental, be open and honest and as you grow personally you’ll start to create genuine connections from these interactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:11 PM
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I gladly would. For my wife? I dream of being the provider in the household who protects and ensures my wives ability to effectively take care of our home and raise our children and have the freedom to explore her own personal interests. The reward is a loving, happy and truly feminine wife who is the base of our family who provides me with emotional support, a home cooked meal and a blowjob when I finish work.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:05 PM
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He will never experience this because he is inherently opposed to being a masculine man and being a leader while simultaneously decrying women who want to be in this role.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:55 PM
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Conforming to someone’s will or desire based upon trust in their decision making, character and intelligence isn’t a bad thing and is exactly what I explained submission as. They aren’t necessarily meek or passive at all. Not sure why you have a reflexive repulsion to the idea of people putting their trust in someone else to such a high degree. That definitely speaks to your character. Insecure in what? That makes very little sense. Wanting to lead doesn’t make anyone insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:52 PM
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The more accurate term is initiating rather than giving.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:46 PM
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Silly. Submissive doesn’t mean subservient. It means she trusts your character and judgement and decision making as the head of the household. I’m not sure what being secure has to do with this. Not a problem at all. And you shouldn’t berate women who want a traditional relationship just because you don’t want one. https://youtu.be/qaENtW1v7kY?si=_MHw1-JZDZxtYr0F this video has a woman explain submissiveness and femininity pretty well although she does have a religious background
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 09:22 AM
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Women don't want to be in the role of men... yea, why is this a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 09:02 AM
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This is stupid as fuck. Just because you can love someone doesn't mean you settle for a partner that doesn't fulfil your wants. And apparently this is what femininity means, just receiving without ever giving anything back. Do you value a woman who takes care of your home, raises your children, cooks for you, tends to your emotional needs, is submissive to you and trusting of you and gives you a sense of stability and comfort and loyalty? That's plenty for me. I am a traditional man. I want a tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 09:00 AM
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Sadly no one here will realize this until it is too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 07:38 AM
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Very few men actually try it to begin with... LMAO.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 06:19 AM
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This a million times.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 06:19 AM
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anyone can get along with people
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 06:39 AM
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What research?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 02:36 PM
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No no no no no. This is all wrong, despite what chronically online, socially inept black pill people will tell you. Most women will disagree with this as-well. There is a way to approach a stranger respectfully. Many guys do it wrong. Many guys don't consider body language, context, their own sexual dimorphism etc etc etc. I just made a thread 4 days ago detailing how to approach without being creepy and it is stupidly simple provided you are not clinically autistic. https://www.reddit.com/r/Pur…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 02:33 PM
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Everything that is perceived as creepy is something a guy did. I promise you no one will ever think you’re creepy just for making brief eye contact with them. No woman has ever said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 09:30 AM
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They’re only perceived that way most of the time because of behavior they can control though. Like most women agreeing with me, you can be perceived as not creepy by the vast majority of women if you just keep these few things in mind. Looking at someone is not considered creepy by anyone. Staring is. It’s simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 04:13 AM
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No it’s not. If you’re a healthy person tracking calories, getting enough protein, getting enough sleep, introducing consistent overload, and working out consistently atleast twice a week you should see results within a couple months. If you’re not you’re doing something wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 04:11 AM
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Please listen to women on this one brother trust me. My success with girls went up alongside my social acuity
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 10:15 AM
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I am completely average if not slightly below average in the face, I’m 5’9 and I gym 2-3 times a week. Perhaps I am in better shape than the average skinny fat dude but that’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 10:14 AM
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Read the bolded
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 10:11 AM
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Men struggle in dating due to their own laziness honestly. The average man is far less attractive objectively than the average woman. They don’t work out, they play video games all day, lack ambition and drive, smoke weed all day, and lack a hair/skin/face routine and any sort of fashion sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 05:45 AM
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You’re right! BUT. I also think a good portion of the men here based on their comments demonstrate a level of social ineptitude that may be a sign of autism
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 05:43 AM
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No truthfully i disagree. My parents met because my dad cold approached my mother at the airport. I know I know, anecdote, but I’ve also had relationships from cold approaching. Main point I don’t believe many shared interests are needed for a LTR, shared VALUES are. I agree that you are better off approaching girls that you’re already acquainted with through school or a hobby like the gym. And yes it’s true, for a lot of guys regardless you have to spend a lot of time and effort finding someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 05:26 AM
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Only the bolded points are needed. As one comment put it, some people here are autistic and require a Bible on basic social interaction
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 05:21 AM
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The bolded points are the only needed reading. No, a good percentage won’t. A non significant portion will regardless of what you do, and that’s okay. I have learned through being told that I made a girl uncomfortable, from getting the opinions of women close to me and observing others. You can never guarantee anything, but listen to the women who agree with me sir, you can greatly greatly lower the women who would otherwise find you creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 05:20 AM
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Just for talking to them? No but i have been told I made a girl uncomfortable with HOW I talked to her and my body language and I corrected it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 05:14 AM
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Because you’re not attractive enough or your body language is too closed off.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 05:13 AM
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What??? No. Im none of those things except confident (generally) and it is very easy for me to not be creepy when I approach girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 05:12 AM
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Is it so hard to not stare at someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 05:03 AM
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Why would it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 05:02 AM
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The average man is closer in looks to ted bundy than Wayne gacey. As I said, if you are straight up ugly then that’s one thing but the vast majority of men are not. They may be “unnatractive” but being unnatractive doesn’t make you creepy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 06:14 PM
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They’re not. Each point is a couple sentences max and I added elaboration which you don’t really need.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 06:11 PM
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You just wrote a whole lot of gibberish I fear. " it's much simpler, autistic people are commonly socially inept or at least display some socially awkward and tone deaf behavior. that is, they're "weird", which neurotypical people don't like " This.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 04:51 PM
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Most men are quite unappealing though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 12:45 PM
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This is insane. Go outside in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 12:42 PM
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No this isn't true. Being an actual dickhead just puts women off outside of highschool. Being attractive doesn't make anyone's personality attractive, it just makes more people more open to sleeping with you. However your actual personality can cuck that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 12:09 AM
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I agree. Any truly red pilled man will not blame a woman for being a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 02:45 PM
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My point is women never said it made them wet lol. They just said its a positive quality. You don't see the hypocrisy in shaming women who are whores while also glorifying the ideas of fucking a bunch of hot girls casually, thus making them whores? I have no worry about marrying one of them as I don't partake in that degeneracy. You attract what you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 02:34 PM
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Being nice will never be a negative trait. Women never said being nice is how you get them to spread their legs. People just like being around kind people in general. You still have to work on yourself and improve yourself in every aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 02:22 PM
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This is stupid and ignores a big point. Being nice is attractive. Being a doormat isn't attractive. Being nice is attractive; it is not the sole attractor. Women never said being nice is how you get them to open their legs, its just a positive general trait. People like nice people who make them feel good about themselves. However, being nice while also having terrible skin, a receding hairline, being fat, dressing odd or out of fashion, lacking confidence or charisma and ambition, means you're …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 02:19 PM
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This is silly. Partying in highschool isn't going to land anyone a job as an adult. Networking depending on your career in college can help a ton, which doesn't require going to fucking degenerate parties, having casual sex and drinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 10:56 AM
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This is silly. Some women love having sex, just in the confines of an exclusive relationship..
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 01:21 PM
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2-5 you're absolutely correct. Men don't have high enough standards though. Most guys will fuck absolutely anything. But a lot of men aren't realistic in terms of what they can get realistically for a relationship. I'm sure a vocal portion of places like this though are comprised of guys who could probably fuck an ugly chick, but thats all they could get and they don't want to
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 10:48 AM
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Most men don't maintain themselves as-well as the average woman does.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 10:36 AM
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Most men are unattractive slobs with poor hygiene and little care into their appearance. This title is just false but I understand why the average man is frankly unappealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 10:31 AM
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LMAOOO the fact that you got downvoted is testament to how fucking degenerate and autistic these men here are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 10:29 AM
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I recognize the red pill as generally true. Female nature being different than men and what that entails in regards to attractiveness and dating, the fact that a lot of men are fed a false reality in regards to what it takes to get a partner etc etc. With that said, most "red pill" men are degenerate hypocrites who wrongly disdain women as opposed to accepting and loving them as they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 10:28 AM
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Traditional marriages are way more likely to workout than the alternative. And honestly most men aren’t very good at understanding what it takes to maintain a happy wife and relationship. To truly mitigate every risk would mean not settling down at all, which is against what a traditional and masculine man should seek.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 08:05 PM
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I don’t think anyone’s asking for sympathy. The red pill is just about accepting the truth. It is not about min maxing and reducing every possible risk in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 07:55 PM
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If she actually has traditional values she most likely won't cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 05:43 PM
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Just because a woman wants a “daddy” doesn’t make her “lazy.” That’s some pretty lazy and insulting assumptions you’re making tbh. Have you ever considered that some women simply prefer to be SAH wives/moms? That they don’t have any “career ambitions”? I mean hell, I’m a guy and I don’t want to go to work, so why would I think any women do? I enjoy being a “daddy”. I like taking care of a woman, making her feel safe and protected. The type of woman I’m into is far from lazy, she simply has no in…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 05:42 PM
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Nah. I want a traditional feminine stay at home wife. The drawbacks are from divorce, not marriage. There's nothing lazy about a mother being a homemaker. You talk as though divorce is a natural part of every marriage. Traditional marriage isn't bullshit, its the way things ought to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 05:40 PM
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Guys put on average little care into their physical appearance Guys have shit standards for who they fuck This we know.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 05:36 PM
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" You are using outdated data. Here is new data from 2022. This data is taken from the General Social Survey, which is the same as what you’re using in your post, only with more recent data. As of 2022, only 14% of men ages 18-24 reported no sex last year. https://datepsychology.com/how-many-sexual-partners-did-men-and-women-have-in-2022/" More of what we know though Most men are quite frankly unattractive and put less care into their appearance than women Guys collectively have shit standards a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 05:35 PM
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You can though...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 05:34 PM
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"Don't cold approach strangers" Cold approaching is only cold approaching if its a stranger. You can ask out strangers and not be creepy about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 10:40 PM
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This isn't true. The average man is still dating and having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 09:27 AM
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There's a political red pill and a dating red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:18 AM
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Like this is quite silly. Men are the ones with different standards with who they'd only sleep with and who they'd date. For the most part, with women they are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 11:38 AM
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This is stupid as shit. Work on your self confidence as a man. A girl not wanting to sleep with you on the first date doesn't mean shes not attracted to you, it means shes not a fucking degenerate whore, and you should be glad of that fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 11:36 AM
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Or maybe the girl has morals and doesn’t want to rush into physical intimacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 11:29 AM
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Statistics show most men are actually dating and having sex despite what the doomers in the comments will say
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 11:27 AM
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I agree. And plenty of traditional women exist in the US lol Date immigrants or southern women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 06:05 AM
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Just seems like projecting to me. I promise you most women do not care. Confidence and willing to learn is the most important thing. And no, you don't have to have sex to have confidence around women. My confidence level did not change before or after losing my virginity years ago, I still get nervous sometimes lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 06:02 AM
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People should wait to have sex, at-least until a committed relationship. But " Men have to either have extremely good looks and be charming to get access to sex or the man has to build himself up, become the best version of himself, and then he can get access to sex later on in life. " This isn't true. Its true if you want to fuck a lot of above average girls but no. I promise you the average guy is having sex with average women. Maybe not as much as he'd like but he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 11:46 AM
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No no, as a man, you should withhold sex. If you don't it will make me think that you're easy subconsciously. You can be intimate and make a man love your presence without having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 09:28 AM
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Its more conducive to actual discourse to supply a statement, a source, and then explain how exactly your source backs up your statement as opposed to just posting a bunch of articles, expect the other person to read them all and draw a connection between what you're saying for you. first article talks about anger which I didn't mention once in my post second article doesn't work the third one just shows that women are rewarded, not shamed, in a corporate environment for demonstrating masculine …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 02:00 PM
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Considering the post is a reply to men here complaining about the average man not getting girls, it’s hard to imagine that’s not what you were taking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 09:35 AM
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Okay but she is way more appealing than the average man and is statistically having sex and dating more
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 07:17 AM
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Yes they do. The average woman spends way more time on her appearance than the average male.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 03:49 AM
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Any man who claims to have done all of these things and still cannot get a girl in any capacity is a liar assuming they are not disfigured as I said in the OP. Flat out. As another comment said There is no jacked man with good career and good personality that doesn't fuck. " there is something inherently problematic about the statement that a person isn't worthy of love unless they're constantly on the self improvement treadmill. " No such statement was made. No one deserves a girlfriend. You mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 03:48 AM
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The average man puts in less work on his appearance than the average woman
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 01:44 AM
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You paint a rather bleak picture. Improve because it will help your life. Improve also because if you want a stable and fulfilling relationship with a good woman it will help you find her. If only 10 percent of women were marriage material to you that’s still plenty.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 01:43 AM
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This is just factually not true and contradicted by every dating study.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 01:40 AM
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We made society. We are the reasons for its failure… not that some men being unable to get pussy every week is a societal failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 01:32 AM
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The reason is people knowingly or not still partake in traditional gender roles and that is not a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 01:31 AM
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Dating apps in general aren’t a great environment for men so that’s not a good counter. Yes the average man is usually with the average woman, no those relationships don’t tend to last long or are somewhat unhappy. Roundabout saying the standards have changed and gone up. No that’s not a bad thing. And nothing I’ve said here is bluepilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 01:24 AM
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You can be competitive and get along with other men. Most professional or otherwise athletes have tons of friends. The main idea I emphasized in my post was developing an actual personality and becoming a genuinely good person that inspires and is respected by those around him. Most people I know like this are pretty funny as-well from having developed said personality and social interactions stemming from that. I’m not sure why that would be unattractive for someone. But also I will not lie to …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 01:19 AM
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So you have no issues getting intimate physically but can’t maintain a relationship? Brother have you been reflective in how you treat your potential partners? Maybe consider how you are meeting these people aswell. Also consider not being physically intimate for a while with them until you’ve gotten to know them better
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 01:11 AM
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Women aren’t shamed in the western world in 2023 for having those trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 01:08 AM
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This is entirely correct
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 01:07 AM
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I’m going to take a shot in the dark and say it’s your personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 01:04 AM
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Most men doing this would improve society though. And it would force women to improve as-well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 01:02 AM
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It’s not valid criticism in the first place. I’m arguing that the man they are describing in that particular situation is highly unlikely to actually exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 12:58 AM
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Most women aren’t worth marrying no. But even if only 5-10 percent are that’s still plenty.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 12:56 AM
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Not getting laid or having a girlfriend isn't suffering. Thats insanely pathetic and I am intolerant of anyone who bitch moans about it especially without taking action to change their circumstance. That extends to complaining about anything without trying to change their circumstance. Men aren't hustling as a means to solely procure relationships today either. We've always valued money and status, not just for the sake of getting women but for their own sake and the improvement of QOL. Ambition…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 02:56 PM
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why are you changing yourself to be the perfect man for the fat ugly women? Who said do this?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 02:31 PM
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The operative word is young man. And I'm not sure that its correct, but the statement is parroted a lot on this board.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 02:30 PM
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I promise you it won't cost you your youth. You can get in shape, improve your mental health and learn new things/passions/hobbies to expand your personality in a year or two. Better to become a more optimal version of yourself and not waste time with women whom you'll never have a meaningful relationship with anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 02:00 PM
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Calm down jimmy. I've already stated this thread is clearly addressing men, not women. Women have their own issues of which I do not care to talk about at present. What-about-ism is quite intellectually lazy, more of a cop-out than anything I've said and so is your application of it here Its not particularly vague. I am directly stating to looksmax and explain how with a few sentences of detail for each one. Outside of looksmaxxing the average man should improve his mental and spiritual well-bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 01:55 PM
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I agree and I was getting at this. You have to be able to have things you can speak about with deeply and confidently, and things you genuinely love to do. This will expand your social circle and improve your own ability to interact with people of any sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 01:18 PM
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Sounds like a degenerate asshole who can’t keep a girl for a month and only gets as far as he does thanks to money/looks and once the enamor from that runs out she’s out aswell
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 01:06 PM
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Not even sure what you’re saying or arguing at this point. The average man is pathetically unattractive to the average woman. Yes. That complaining is not warranted. Before they complain they should improve every aspect of themselves first. Then I list several ways they can easily stand out and get what they want. Then I directly state twice that meaningless sex is a bad thing and encourage the opposite. Listing ways for men to attract women isn’t an endorsement of casual sex. Not sure how that’…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 01:01 PM
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Watching =/= addicted to porn. It is important that you work on yourself physically and mentally in order to have a stable loving relationship. And a woman wanting a man who looks good and is stylish, so that she can actually be attracted to him and then begin to build a relationship with him isn't superficial, thats how dating works. We find someone visually appealing and then we get to know them deeper.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 12:05 PM
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Not once did I say that men should improve themselves in order to have casual sex or relationships. In-fact I said the direct opposite and that men should find a singular woman to settle down with. The old-school man was also a hustler and dedicated to providing for himself. Improving yourself so that you can live a better life and attract the woman thats right for you, not so that you can fuck as many women as possible. This is a conversation directed towards my fellow men. If you are going to …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 12:02 PM
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They haven't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 11:59 AM
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Its not a negative. The women I like, like black men. Some people however hold the idea that being anything other than white is a negative in regards to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 11:59 AM
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I don't think competitiveness is a defining trait of masculinity (though it can be associated with it). Nor is leadership necessarily. Perhaps you could find other arguments to support the idea that the average man is not masculine, but it would need a different approach. possession of a strong desire to be more successful than others."a lot of people get wrapped up in competitiveness and jealousy" 2.the quality of being as good as or better than others of a comparable nature."the competitivenes…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 11:58 AM
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The average man only has good enough hygiene so as to not offend everyone around him in public with their stench. And many times not even that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 11:41 AM
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The majority can
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 11:32 AM
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No one is entitled to dating anyone. You don't deserve to date anyone any more than I deserve a Bugatti and a mansion. Women can put in less personal work and still date because we men have shit standards, for others and ourselves. We don't want to put in work on ourselves so we settle for what we think is the best woman we can get even though she doesn't make us happy, and that woman has put in probably no work on herself to be a better person. Truthfully women do have to work more to get a suc…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 11:19 AM
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Some of these comments are incredibly pathetic. Yes, you're correct and I made a similar post before. Most men want a traditional woman without being a traditional man. All they do is consume copious amounts of red pill youtuber content that tells them how to fuck a million women whilst calling women who are similarly promiscuous damaged goods, thereby spreading the damage they complain about. They teach them to put on a persona of a dark, mysterious asshole who is toxic and confident but fail t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 09:33 AM
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Dear incelius, I specified taking care of your physical and mental well being. Being in shape and having the confidence from that and a solid personality will get you a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 09:16 AM
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This is entirely your fault as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 09:14 AM
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what do you mean seeing??? are you watching people have sex or what? news flash, you're not entitled to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 08:41 AM
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Women crave men that make them feel a range of emotions and give them good experiences (who doesn't, but especially women.) Yes, if you want to be a degenerate who fucks as many girls as possible while forming no meaningful connections or thinking about how it'll impact your relationship with your future wife, then being a dark mysterious asshole will work (given you are attractive.) However this is NOT how you attract your wife or a girl that you will have a long-lasting and meaningful relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 04:02 PM
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u/Custard-Gyal Let me put it simply for you. The reason you haven't found success before is you're implementing very masculine approaches to dating. Guys don't really mind paying or planning dates, however never signaling that you're only into him, making him do all the talking and never complimenting him are strategies told to guys by red pill content creators who teach men to fuck the most women and be as degenerate as possible. This doesn't work for women on men unless the man is very feminin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 10:13 AM
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If we accept that what we generally look for in a partner are qualities that we may lack or want for ourselves, I think that's a perfectly reasonable assumption. That women tend to want strong men because they are themselves not strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 06:58 AM
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No sleeping with women doesn’t increase your charisma, guys who sleep with a lot of women (as though that’s something to be valued in the first place) tend to be more charismatic. The only thing having sex does is for some men it makes you a little bit more comfortable around women you find attractive and before you sleep with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 07:20 PM
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You should be able to be happy, not necessarily fulfilled. Most people crave to start a family biologically.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 06:21 PM
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How pathetically gloomy. The average woman does date the average man in real life. If you people would remove yourselves from the internet for a day and go to the mall in any decently sized city you'd see dozens of completely average looking women with average looking men. However, the vast, vast, vast majority of men who are not facially disfigured or legal midgets will have a much much easier time dating if they simply took the time to work on their personality and body and goals, because the …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 06:16 PM
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I promise you regular women date regular men in the real world. Yes women are attracted to guys that can pull a lot of girls, no that does not deter them from seeking an exclusive relationship with them and voicing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 06:04 PM
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Not knowing intentions is what causes the fear instinct in the generally more vulnerable gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 06:02 PM
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Modern men are obsessed with the idea of how can they fuck as many women as possible, while simultaneous shaming women and claiming they are damaged for doing the same. Not realizing the same spiritual and psychological damage that casual sex can cause is being done to them as-well. It is quite sad. There is nothing alpha male to me about fucking 1000 women, the most alpha thing you can do is lock down one womans heart and body for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 05:59 PM
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such as charm, confidence (which is a feedback loop of validation), being able to make a girl want and fuzzy, excellent at reading non-verbal cues, able to escalate a relationship correctly, etc. You do not need to have had sex to have ANY of these qualities what the fuck world do you live in. Some of the most confident and charismatic guys I knew were like that before they ever saw a vagina. And you don't fuck a whore the way you fuck your wife. For that matter you don't fuck any two girls the …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 05:55 PM
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No no, there are definitely a lot of entitled and creepy men who don't know how to ascertain that a woman is uncomfortable or disliking their advances and don't know how to take no for an answer, and if they do get rejected feel offended and that she owes him justification for why shes not interested. And in the case of your stories it sounds like you are the common denominator and lack the ability to pick up on certain social cues or how to properly disarm someone to make them more comfortable.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 05:49 PM
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"Nice guys" are assholes tbh. Or at-least very un-masculine men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 03:48 PM
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As a red pill aware man this is an insane reach. Women always say when they want a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 03:48 PM
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It’s not a belief thing. Most women are physically weaker than most men, I’m not sure why you hold any sort of contention to a biological fact. And she’s not the only woman who’s either said or implied that they like strong men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 10:56 AM
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You're free to believe as you do. The conversation was geared towards her preferences in men and she said that she wants a strong man because she isn't strong herself, physically, as most women are not, at-least when compared to their opposite sex counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 02:41 AM
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These are averages and generally the case. Nobody used the words "all" in this thread in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 02:33 AM
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It sounds like you should get better at reading body language because you're initiating unwanted physical contact, multiple times. Test the water with less risky physical contact and see how open and relaxed her body language is around you. Overall this seems just like you need better social awareness like the other comments state.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 12:12 AM
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This is mental. You think if a woman doesn't degenerately tongue kiss you on the first date shes not into you? Do you hear yourself? Stop being a degen. Be a man. You shouldn't even want to tongue kiss a woman on the first date because it shows badly on her character and yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:34 PM
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You’re saying women are weaker physically and mentally because they like attractive men? They're weaker physically because they're weaker physically. They like strong men because of that. I have literally had women tell me that is why they like strong men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:36 AM
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I am a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 07:11 AM
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I pray you let that hurt go.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 07:08 AM
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The last paragraph hit the nail on the head!! Yes!! You are NOT inherently valuable to women, you must cultivate value through developing yourself and that includes more than your body and your wallet.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:48 PM
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Most men are below average. This is a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:11 PM
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So funny the men in the comments saying if they followed this they'd never get any girls/dates. Lol. That just goes to show you haven't built up the qualities most women find attractive and are addicted to trying to "raise a womans interest." Yeah have fun finding a meaningful relationship with anyone that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:19 PM
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Applaud you for standing on your values despite the jaded men who are most likely hypocrites saying otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:16 PM
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Women don't test men they're highly interested in. I promise you your girl isn't '"testing"" michael b jordan if he calls her and takes her on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:12 PM
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This is common sense. The entire world of dating would be a lot more easy if both genders just decided to only go for those that are highly interested in them. But for some reason people have a fascination with trying to get people to love them who just won't reciprocate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:10 PM
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However, there are also completely authentic friendships between people who also find each other attractive. This is especially common if you're the kind of guy who only dates women he actually likes as people You're saying that two people who find each other attractive can be authentic platonic friends, especially if the guy only dates women he actually likes as a person. My thing is why would anyone be friends with someone in the first place that they dont like as a person? " The bottom line i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:58 AM
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Im highly skeptical of this. Why would you be friends with someone you dont like as a person?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 10:47 PM
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if there is mutual non-attraction guys and girls can be friends. the issue is a lot of guys try to make friends out of girls they want to or would or did ask out lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 10:43 PM
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how did he insult her?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:57 PM
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No marriage or relationship is worth it if your partner isn’t the right person for you. There you go. Being a breadwinner won’t make your husband make you cum or stop having a beer belly. Studies show being mothers is the happiest job they can do, for good reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 10:55 AM
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Implying that having children and being a family woman is unfulfilling is insane. Its one of the most fulfilling things for anyone especially women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 10:45 AM
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No masculine man should hide who he is. No man should build a relationship based on a lie. The truth is no woman who is worth having a long term relationship with will cut you off just off sexual inexperience. A good woman will be willing to help you learn and grow. Also, the way you have sex with a random ons is NOT how you will have sex with your wife. You have to learn how to please your individual partner anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 12:05 PM
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This isn’t true for one. Two, no girl worth marrying expects ANYONE regardless of virginity status to know how to fuck her correctly. If she’s not willing to communicate about what she likes she’s not worth it anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 11:58 AM
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This is stupid as hell. You can be a virgin and meet a girl and grow and learn with her sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:36 AM
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Most of this is right but at the same time there's nothing wrong with only wanting sex from a woman you consider attractive. I think everyone would benefit from simply discontinuing communication with people whom they want to take out but don't have the interest reciprocated. That is to say I while I have female friends, they were either prior fwbs or I don't find them attractive.
/r/seduction19/10/22 04:00 AM
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Don’t approach a group
/r/seduction12/12/21 12:53 PM
11

Promise you can never go wrong with Miguel
/r/seduction25/08/21 12:16 PM
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