EssentialPurity Archive

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0	Women do actually hate the idea of sex robots despite saying otherwise. I'm not the one who's gonna get picked. It will be you who will, namely be picked on. And of course you will blame everyone but yourself. Anyways, I like my videogames as hard as your heart.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/25 11:48 AM
3	The issue with promiscuous men wanting non-promiscuous women is about his hypocrisy around pious conservative values The term you're looking for is "Infantilization". Women are understood by males the same way children are: children lack knowledge and experience so they cannot be trusted to fend off for themselves in terms of agency and all the responsibility that comes with it, so they are better served being closely monitored and made to follow a disciplined extrinsical routine and spend their days in predictable spaces; and also since they lacl knowledge and experience, they lack the basic elements of a con…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/25 11:24 AM
2	The issue with promiscuous men wanting non-promiscuous women is about his hypocrisy around pious conservative values The problem is not the males who want that. The problem is the women who give that. I mean, let's not pretend that girls are unironically dismissing the social significancy of their actions and simply allowing themselves to be rizzed up by promiscuous males while the rest of us are defending them from other promiscuous males who want part in the giveaway. We can blame males all we want, but, unless every casual sex is legit textbook rape, women are willingly contributing to the very existance of…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/25 11:08 AM
1	Women do actually hate the idea of sex robots despite saying otherwise. Being undiscriminating is no flex. There is a lot of vetting to enter Heaven, and no vetting to enter Hell. For their own good, people deserve to be held to some standards.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/25 10:57 AM
2	Women do actually hate the idea of sex robots despite saying otherwise. Yeah, but such male strategy is counterproductive. Boink a short woman, get a short son. A bit of vetting could help the people brought to this world. If anything, women have probably prevented the Human race from breeding itself into humanoid Pugs.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/25 09:57 AM
1	Women do actually hate the idea of sex robots despite saying otherwise. Well, see it this way: If we assume that successful male sexual expression is in some way or another an indicator (or reward) of some virtue he may have that makes him a sexually attractive option for women, then it can be argued that a unvirtuous male getting to sexually express is a sign of that something might be wrong somewhere. It's like you seeing a person you know to have no work ethics, no business acumen and no rich relative suddenly showing up owning sports cars and mansions. It's reas…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/25 09:47 AM
2	Women do actually hate the idea of sex robots despite saying otherwise. How about a non-cop out response (as well as non-backhanded ad hominem) and engage his point? I mean, you are making such a concerted effort to pass yourself as stubborn, dismissive and self-righteous, it's almost like you actually want males to feel negatively about the female gender by proxy so you can prove your point in some strange, lopsided way. If you're scared of what submissive sex dolls might mean, a good solution to that is to simply prove wrong the male notion of that sexbots are bet…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/25 09:33 AM
0	Women do actually hate the idea of sex robots despite saying otherwise. Just a heads-up: they would still hate women if they didn't have means to demean women. Hating sex dolls for how sexist their existance is is just a "shooting the messenger" attitude.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/25 09:21 AM
2	Women do actually hate the idea of sex robots despite saying otherwise. Different takes are coming from different women, OP. Women are not a monolithic hivemind. Anyways, the women who are worried about negative repercussions coming from sex bots are being irrationally fearful of strictly hypothetical scenarios. Not any different from the "videogames cause violence" astroturfed moral panic. If we go by any real world porn-related phenomenon, sex bots are most absolutely good news, because porn consistently reduces sex offense rates. Any means of getting sexual urges…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/25 09:12 AM
2	Hyper independence is making men and women incompatible. You gave me idea for the premise for a Doujin comic: Japan implements a military service secondary to the JSDF to which every female citizen must enlist at 18 years old and serve as "soldier wives" who are drilled by sergeants to do housechores and stay fit and sexy. If I was anything like young me back in 2012 or so, I would 100% draw it and unironically make it more about the story and setting than the nevertheless copious NC sex scenes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/25 05:31 PM
8	Hyper independence is making men and women incompatible. That last sentence is worth it's letter count in gold. If males ever get State Mandated GFs, they will find out real shortly that nobody is enthusiastic about doing a job they were conscripted by the State into.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/25 05:18 PM
5	Hyper independence is making men and women incompatible. You are making the same mistake many Christians do when attempting to evangelize: appeal to fear of an hypothetical scenario. It's useless to tell someone who doesn't believe in Afterlife that they will have a bad Afterlife. Even if you try to appeal to the probability of the unbeliever being wrong, then you are compounding the mistake with another mistake: Pascal's Wager. Pascal's Wager ("Believe in God just in case He exists, as you'll lose nothing by believing should He not exist") is mathema…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/25 05:03 PM
1	For Men, Single Life Is the Solution—Not Something to Fear Yes. The funny thing about people blaming societal pressures on their desires is that it's the same problem of Temptations in Christianity: people treat mild and inconsequential disapproval, as well as fleeting frustration, as some kind of insurmountable obstacle that completely forces their hands into compliance. This is simply not how life, nor anything at all, works. The same way the worst that the Serpent could do if Eve refused to eat the Forbidden Fruit was just call her names, the worst A…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/25 05:04 PM
2	For Men, Single Life Is the Solution—Not Something to Fear Singleness is indeed a solution, but not in the way that OP states. Unsuccessful males won't be missed from the dating market. An unemployed workforce is improductive, after all. Nobody will feel hard pressed to increase male attendance numbers. Much to the contrary, many will sigh in relief because dating apps aren't absolute sausage parties anymore. But male dating woes might still get solved by virtue of singleness not even being a problem anymore. Males might finally realize that Amatonormat…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/25 04:32 PM
0	Unless you do a paternity test you can only ever be about 90% sure that you actually fathered a child OP, please. A good parent will love even a bastard. A bad parent will hate even a legitimate. Feel free to disagree, but the petty squabbles of the parents matter absolutely nothing compared to the rights of the child. They either get over themselves, or just part from the kid by the availble method of choice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/25 03:59 PM
13	How true is the myth that conservative women cheat less than their liberal counterparts ? Both cons and libs have rationalization venues for elliciting infidelity. Cons like to hide behind the fact that their standards are well-defined and thus more reliable and time-honed, which makes it easy to rationalize cheating because they can just say that their sins are justified by nuances that their own standards miss to cover in their generalities. Also it's easier to project an image of morality by preaching it. Libs can afford to employ relativism and try to evoke empathy and forgivenes…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/25 03:12 PM
-1	It is up to Women to be proactive in the dating market nowadays Reminds me of something dad would say whenever I refused food for no reason like children usually do: "Hungry people eat stones". It is, I had no right to complain I'm hungry if I would reject food. If I was really hungry, I would seriously consider even subpar and counterproductive alternatives, such as, namely, stones. With time, I realized this is an universal principle, as it applies to everything we choose to do or don't. And for good reason, as it is in the Holy Bible: Proverbs 22:13. In o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/25 11:15 PM
-2	It is up to Women to be proactive in the dating market nowadays That's not how Strikes work. The dating market will have a huge flashing option when males check out: live free from the woes and complexities of trying to attract and keep males, and dissolve itself for a better alternative that will be built without the say of uncooperative elements. Strikes only work when it's done by the people who are doing the real work. Society can easily survive and thrive without any other group. If all Proletarians die, the economy and the Human species are over. If al…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/25 10:59 PM
2	The lack of shame is causing a destruction of the traditional dating structure and people have no idea how to move forward Yes, and I'm all in for it as I'm a Christian, but here's a caveat: Not all marriages afford people to "explore". It can happen for many reasons, such as the marriage having been estabilished for the purpose of sexual expression (so spouses will be dissastisfied by poor performance), one or both spouses lacking purity (disappointment after disappointment ensue), one of both spouses being very serious types of person so sex cannot be approached casually enough for experimentation (and this is not…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/25 09:35 PM
5	The lack of shame is causing a destruction of the traditional dating structure and people have no idea how to move forward People aren't lacking shame. Much to the contrary, they have become immune to it due to how overused it is. The funny thing about shame is that it is both a deterrent and a stimulant for undesirable behaviours. It represses misbehaviour only up to a certain point, which is when one decides to take a stand for themselves against what they perceive as unfair and arbitrary repression. From this point, people will use shame as a reverse moral compass, as an active attempt of desensitizing themselves…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/25 09:14 PM
17	It is up to Women to be proactive in the dating market nowadays "There is a vast spectrum between dating apps and cold approaching" I don't really understand why people seem to miss it so much. They will say "We need third spaces" when this is absolutely bollocks. People back then made friends and lovers in school, work and hobbies normally, they didn't need the "third spaces" they supposedly had. People nowadays act like people in 60s or so were some kind of anal retentive bureaucrats that acted like "NO FLIRTING IN SCHOOL, ONLY IN PARK!" and then parks, ma…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/25 07:53 PM
6	Is it common for women to have had a negative experience with an autistic man in their life? This might sound bad, but it works: priorize survival over victory. It means that you will have take quite a few Ls in life but strategically so to pick your battles. Masking is a lot easier when you make it a habit to play Devil's Advocate (a rethoric exercise consisting of actively trying to come up with arguments favourable to something you disagree with) so you can learn to say what people wanna hear without having too much internal conflict. But it means that you'll have to actively contrib…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/25 02:43 PM
9	Is it common for women to have had a negative experience with an autistic man in their life? The problem is not Autism per se. The problem is how society is set up, in a way that anyone with any sort of disadvantage may end up flowing into dark places. This is why you see radical Manosphere groups having an overrepresentation of people in the Spectrum. It's not the Spectrum that makes people bad, rather the Spectrum makes it very likely for them to experience the brunt of societal injustices and cultural flaws so they naturally develop strong sentiments of that things need to change. I …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/25 11:52 AM
2	The Provider Man Model No Longer Works in Modern Western Relationships. It's a scam. Because in theory they want men to be providers while women stay at home. This is only possible with the husband being paid enough to provide. This is calling out the irony of that they want trad marriages but won't do anything that enables trad marriages to be a thing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/25 09:03 PM
2	The Provider Man Model No Longer Works in Modern Western Relationships. It's a scam. It's usual that whenever a requirement becomes easily fulfilled, it stops being a requirement and becomes implied as a bare minimum.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/25 07:07 PM
6	The Provider Man Model No Longer Works in Modern Western Relationships. It's a scam. Yeah, that's the problem of dealing with Liberals. They will blame non-Material problems on disfavourable Material Conditions and then try to solve the problems with subsidizing of demand. Not even the hardest Marxist is this clueless. That's why the Soviet Union, back in the day, used to call these nordic ideas of "social democracy" Social Fascism, as all this welfare policy and civil rights schtick are only paliatives to the real plights of the common people and do nothing about the social inj…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/25 06:51 PM
0	The Provider Man Model No Longer Works in Modern Western Relationships. It's a scam. Lovely how they unironically never campaign for married men to get paid a lot so they can afford to provide. Liberalism is a heck of a drug.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/25 06:37 PM
1	Why is it that if a man fell in love with his female friend, then it is believed that he just “wanted to get into her pants”? Think this way: if you were to choose to date someone you just saw from a dating app or is cold approaching you; or a friend you have been fairly getting along with, which would you choose? That's what I'm trying to get at. I am yet to ever see a single "Friendzoned" male who wasn't just a vague acquaintance to the girl at best but completely blewn an assumption of her impression of him out of proportion and then got mad when reality knocked on his door. And I have been tracking this discussion …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/25 04:00 PM
11	Why is it that if a man fell in love with his female friend, then it is believed that he just “wanted to get into her pants”? I'd say no, because that's not how the Friendzone narrative develops. What happens most of the time is the guy not being a (proper) friend of the girl before getting interested on her. In the scenario you presented, things usually develop differently from the usual Friendzone debacle.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/25 12:11 PM
–	It's bad to reduce men to statistics. Stalin taught me that it's tragic to reduce just one man to statistics, but it's okay to do it to one million men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/25 03:07 PM
–	It's bad to reduce men to statistics. There are other kinds of meme statistics that mostly men like to throw at also mostly men, such as 13/52 and 42%.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/25 03:05 PM
8	CMV: Women have no issue with the ''right;; objectification Just because you call it objectification doesn't mean women also think so. I'd say that there is a fine line between keeping certain things impersonal for the sake of simplicity, safety and convenience; and reducing people to impersonal characteristics when otherwise it would be reasonable and/or expected not to do so. It is, technically speaking, having a job is a form of self-objectification as we are literally selling our time and effort, but this is not much talked about because it's a truis…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/25 02:12 PM
2	Would you support men having the right to “abdicate” a pregnancy? No, but it changes nothing, as they already do it. If murdering a baby is not seen as evil, then abandoning one won't either.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/25 08:40 AM
2	Why you have to work harder than your grandfather (and what to do about it) I find it doubtful that grandpas had warmer social lives. They lived in far worse times and bad times don't make people particularly positive and affectionate, you know. I think that what happened for relationships to happen better was that people had fewer places to run away into when spooked at Human imperfection. Today we have this mentality of that no relationship at all is better than a "toxic" one. I don't know about you, but I have never heard older people say this. I only hear people aro…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/25 06:01 AM
0	We should stop gender splitting in competitions where brain power is the only deciding factor Is it that weird pseudoscience about bells and curves?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/25 03:44 PM
3	Being neurodivergent you will peak/bloom later in life than neurotypicals and that's ok. Need... to... resist... the temptation of... making this into a copypasta!...	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/25 02:24 PM
30	Being neurodivergent you will peak/bloom later in life than neurotypicals and that's ok. Neurodivergent here. I'm 38 now. How "late" is this bloom gonna be? I guess it will be around 80 or so, when I will be the last generation of Soviet-born Бабушки and I'll be an unstopable force of nature and I'll drown the entire Motherland in компот because she isn't eating enough. Maybe by then I'll get a Based Дедушка war veteran husband. Seriously now, I don't find your words comforting at all. There is no moment when socialization clicks. It remains a struggle because socialization is alway…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/25 01:54 PM
1	The APA's guidelines on men and boys that were published in 2019 encourages therapists to violate the modern interpretation of the Oath of Hippocrates and suggests that American men are largely justified in distrusting therapy/mental healthcare as they don't have their best interest at heart Remember: snitches get stitches. Maybe they don't get stitches now, but they will get in the Final Reckoning. Anyways, imagine trusting Psychologists in le current year unironically. They don't help even women, specially women with actual mental illness instead of the natural consequences of hedonism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/25 08:24 PM
1	More traditional marriages are easier and that's why they fail less often No, I didn't delete any comment here. Anyways, nice moving of goalposts.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/25 07:24 PM
1	More traditional marriages are easier and that's why they fail less often It depends. I would like to be given grace and not be dumped due to my imperfections? Then it's a successful marriage. I believe I am above reproach and think that everyone who is not as much of a good lover as me due strictly Skill Issue? Then it's an unsuccesful marriage. As for the income issue, it should go without saying that men who can't sustain a household alone are not fit for marriage. That's harsh? Yes. But you know what's even harsher? Having to work (at least) two jobs for a man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/25 07:23 PM
-7	More traditional marriages are easier and that's why they fail less often Rejecting someone due to preferences is effectively forcing the preferences upon them. Or you think people are okay and consenting with being passed over?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/25 07:17 PM
3	More traditional marriages are easier and that's why they fail less often The success of an institution doesn't hinge on the convenience of it's constituents. All you have argued is how bad it would be if the wife filed a divorce, no actual disadvantage of the tradition at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/25 07:12 PM
1	Would you be willing to g to forgo all casual sex if it meant dating went back to how it was before? So morality is irrelevant? No wonder this sub exists.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/25 05:21 PM
6	Would you be willing to g to forgo all casual sex if it meant dating went back to how it was before? Tell the White Throne that fornication is not wrong because it's enjoyable. Also, of course primate animals are sexually liberal. They are godless, just like fornicators.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/25 05:20 PM
5	Would you be willing to g to forgo all casual sex if it meant dating went back to how it was before? You ignored the point. Immorality is not justified because it's ancient practice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/25 05:06 PM
0	To LTR a guy who just wants sex is like paying for an ugly sugar baby. You owe me one Ruble for each person that takes this as an insult	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/25 05:00 PM
1	Would you be willing to g to forgo all casual sex if it meant dating went back to how it was before? No? Then you're arguing in bad faith.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/25 04:57 PM
2	Would you be willing to g to forgo all casual sex if it meant dating went back to how it was before? Selection Bias. The males who don't have casual sex are not considered to be men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/25 04:53 PM
4	Would you be willing to g to forgo all casual sex if it meant dating went back to how it was before? People have also been murdering and stealing since the dawn of time. Your point is?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/25 04:38 PM
16	Would you be willing to g to forgo all casual sex if it meant dating went back to how it was before? Yes, but it wasn't normalised. And just because a practice doesn't have absolute 100% adoption rate doesn't influence it's validity. People can be and do are wrong sometimes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/25 04:37 PM
1	Many women want to be liberated feminists and trad conservatives at the same time Except that there are no-no combinations of views. You are socially/culturally leftist and economically rightist? Oh, you're just a Centrist. You are socially/culturally rightist and economically leftist? Freaking Nazbol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/25 11:01 PM
0	Many women want to be liberated feminists and trad conservatives at the same time Faithfulness is appreciated? Wow. Could have died without ever learning that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/25 10:58 PM
0	Many women want to be liberated feminists and trad conservatives at the same time Yes, but you're forgetting one detail: why is that specific sexual attention unwanted when it's supposedly not too different from the previously enjoyed wanted ones? And no, she doesn't have the right to "just don't feel like it". This is an excuse. The answer must be objective: she is not attracted, she feels what she feels and even if she was objectively wrong she can't just flip a switch on her desires, the males touching her are repulsive. Anything goes, except a non-answer that enshrines a …	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/25 10:56 PM
0	There are no consequences to being a "bad person" and no incentives to be a "good person" when dating for short-term. Oh, the "Both sides are bad" kind. I'm sorry but if you can't discern sternness against evil from stern evil, then you are unfit for making moral judgements. You are the kind of person who would see God giving proper consequences to the wicked and say He is no better than the devil. Everything the good side does is good, even if it's bad. Everything the bad side does is bad, even if it's good. Learn this and you'll find a place to fulfill your need for purpose and structure in life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 08:21 PM
0	There are no consequences to being a "bad person" and no incentives to be a "good person" when dating for short-term. Username checks out. lol Anyways, this excuse doesn't really fly because it could be used to justify Socialism the same way it does Capitalism. After all, ask the American poor if the Liberal regime and the Corporations have treated them well in the short term or even the long term. And if you say that the poor somehow deserve the treatment because they are lazy and lack work ethic, I can simply say that the hypothetical people who suffered under Communism were Reactionaries and weren't cooperat…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 08:14 PM
3	Why do men crave romantic interest so much? I dunno. I speak from what I have seen. There is a whole male-only pro-natalist movement going on online, with Elon Musk as a high profile example of it. I am yet to ever see one single pusher of the "Population Collapse" conspiracy theory/moral panic not be a sycophant of this movement. And with me being a Christian, I see in Christian men a fairly noticeable trend of wanting to have kids. This is my favourite, because i t's a comically shoddy attempt of pushing for not-very-Biblical concepts o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 04:24 PM
2	How have women evolved with hypergamous selection if they haven’t had a choice in their mate until modern era? But men often argue that hypergamy still exists even if it's supposedly unnecessary. Or haven't you seen Manospherers bemoaning that women are getting diplomas and jobs so now they supposedly can afford to snob on humbler men and will only accept to date men who are even better? Their rationale is that since women historically were sidelined, they had little value themselves so any man had more value than any woman by simple virtue of having a job, which apparently weaponized hypergamy to make a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 04:11 PM
0	How have women evolved with hypergamous selection if they haven’t had a choice in their mate until modern era? Yeah, man. Who could have guessed that strength in a primitive society with no technology would make people have higher status? Mind-blowing. /s	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 03:59 PM
2	How have women evolved with hypergamous selection if they haven’t had a choice in their mate until modern era? Have you noticed that Humans barely follow any hard set script in life? We are programmed to try our best to survive and keep on living. Yes. But thousands upon thousands of people suicide every year, if not month at this rate. We are programmed to want to reproduce at any cost. Yes. But since the dawn of time people have figured all forms of ways of regulating sexuality and reproduction and many people argue that follow more "natural" rationales of mating strategy contribute to civilizational d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 03:52 PM
1	How have women evolved with hypergamous selection if they haven’t had a choice in their mate until modern era? Basic intelligence being applied to finantial and social strategy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 03:32 PM
1	How have women evolved with hypergamous selection if they haven’t had a choice in their mate until modern era? Because Natural Selection doesn't work that way. It doesn't optimize species like that. In this case, there is no evolutionary pressure against hypergamy because it doesn't reduce reproductive success (men are too sexually immoral to pass up the opportunity of being the superior male monkeybranchers leave their partners for) and doesn't reduce survival significantly (again, the superior males never reject monkeybranchers, and this includes not killing them because this would be squandering of se…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 02:59 PM
1	Why do men crave romantic interest so much? Well, yes, I do have such experiences. Also, I don't think men don't want me. I know that men don't want me. But I digress. As I said in another thread, rejection is a deep personal attack. So it's not too much out of the realm of possibility for romance failure to ellicit strong feelings like that. Maybe you're biased because you probably never saw a woman cross the line and manifest such violence, cruelty and hatred that are, for good reason, associated with men. But I have seen. And more than…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 03:04 AM
1	A general criticism of the “but they slept with x person on the first date, why not me?” Yeah. The woman in question does.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 03:00 AM
1	A general criticism of the “but they slept with x person on the first date, why not me?” I have to disagree because I'm firm on the position of that fornication is wrong and immoral. So, yeah, she did something VERY wrong. And she would be doing just as wrong if she put out to me in our first date. But that's beside the point (specially because this wording is offputting. I'm not a lesbian) The point is that it's baffling that she has already forfeited her soul and doesn't want to sin specifically with one person even though she is unrepentant of her sin. There is no reason for that…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 01:20 AM
2	A general criticism of the “but they slept with x person on the first date, why not me?” Yes. You say that, and then turn around and show the hypothetical woman unequivocally manifesting a complete lack of attraction, and when I point it out you just NUH-UH and simply posture that it is not a slight, which is incredibly dishonest because you are trying to pose as someone who knows how interpersonal relationships work and then fails at the very basic principle of that it doesn't matter if the person has no ill-will in their behaviour, because if the other feels slighted, then it IS a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 01:01 AM
2	A general criticism of the “but they slept with x person on the first date, why not me?” It contradicts the rest of your case.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 12:47 AM
2	A general criticism of the “but they slept with x person on the first date, why not me?” Oh, yes. I guess that I don't really like burgers because I don't like it when the burger joint serves very bad burgers. What a terrible way of thinking of an innocent business. They are trying their best!	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 12:45 AM
2	A general criticism of the “but they slept with x person on the first date, why not me?” There's emotional thinking, and then there's immaturity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 12:40 AM
1	A general criticism of the “but they slept with x person on the first date, why not me?” lol, okay then. Let me correct. (ahem) What you mean I'm alone because I bring nothing to the table in a relationship? I'm the table! Any """fault""" within my behaviour is just the inevitable result of men failing at their God-given duty to lead women! Also, all your blokes' grievances stem from you not earning yourselves womanly favour. Where is your """mAScuLIniTy"""? You are supposed to just know what you need to do! If you need me to explain it all, then you're not emotionally intelligent e…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 12:38 AM
6	A general criticism of the “but they slept with x person on the first date, why not me?” This is the most advanced expression of sweeping and unapologetic misoginy I have ever seen, and this means a lot. Apparently women can't be reasonable because we are some kind of hysterical hivemind. I get it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 12:24 AM
2	People should think about their priorities before complaining about dating. I want a C# programmer who can subclass Sealed Classes and create anonymous IEnumerators! This is nothing unreasonable to demand. It's the bare minimum. I deserve a proper programmer!	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 12:10 AM
1	People should think about their priorities before complaining about dating. Counterpoint: How reasonable it is to arbitrarily raise the bar and then berate people for not raising up to the occasion? People have lives, you know. Because that's what happening. Yes, you can say that people are not making priorities for complying to dating requirements, but you are completely forgetting to explain why these requirements are there, whereas they seem to have simply popped from nowhere, as never before all this debacle was even a thing, at least not this extent. I'd say that w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 12:07 AM
3	A general criticism of the “but they slept with x person on the first date, why not me?” It becomes arbitrary when it exists. There is absolutely no rational explanation to this sort of behaviour. If you don't think this "I'll do what I want and screw you for judging me" attitude is not arbirtrary, then I don't know what to tell you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 11:45 PM
1	A general criticism of the “but they slept with x person on the first date, why not me?” I think he would only have a problem if he's the exception to her fornication antics.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 11:44 PM
4	A general criticism of the “but they slept with x person on the first date, why not me?” Uuuh, yes? She is clearly not attracted if she won't give you the kind of treatment she gives to people she's attracted to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 11:43 PM
1	A general criticism of the “but they slept with x person on the first date, why not me?” Don't overestimate the emotional intelligence of Hollywood writers like that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 11:41 PM
4	A general criticism of the “but they slept with x person on the first date, why not me?” Yeah, this implication of that "Chad" is always taking every opportunity to boink every girl regardless of her "SMV" always got me stumped. The poor bloke must be living with his bellend flayed for him to be boink so many girls for no reason. Maybe the point of this message is that since Chad can afford all women, then being afforded by Chad simply proves you're part of the group of "all women", it is, you're not special. But even then, this doesn't help the case of men because this is a textboo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 11:39 PM
2	A general criticism of the “but they slept with x person on the first date, why not me?” But your case is different. You of course don't love the future partners, because they will be onesies just like the rest. This is perfectly logical, imo. No one got an special treatment. There would be a problem if you decided to abandon this lifestyle and to become completely monogamous in the traditional sense of the word. People would feel cheated because they are having to pay steeply for what was previously given away for free, and would have a right to question if you would be able to bea…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 11:29 PM
6	A general criticism of the “but they slept with x person on the first date, why not me?” I agree but I'd say that "hypergamous" probably isn't the right word, as it implies serial monogamy and infidelity being done for the sake of monkeybranching, which is a concept completely detached of the simple idea that people want partners they're best attracted to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 11:22 PM
11	A general criticism of the “but they slept with x person on the first date, why not me?” Yes, she should feel resentful. Fairness goes both ways. Most women aren't their partners' first choices since a lot of younger men nowadays have an IG model This is a very weird stretch. I can understand if he had another gf and he paid full for her, but saying a parasocial media crush is just as much of a serious relationship is definitely the take of 2024. I'm very sorry for you if you have met women who were this unreasonably jealous. Anyways, it's not very good to accept to be someone's pla…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 11:14 PM
4	Why do men crave romantic interest so much? So, my answer was a lowkey way of saying I disagree because I am guilty of all that	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 10:41 PM
6	A general criticism of the “but they slept with x person on the first date, why not me?” It's called not being attracted to me and being attracted to the other person, Masha. Anyways, this is textbook infidelity. And quite rich for a fornicating public toilet to be discriminating of partners. It's a "choosing beggar" mentality, albeit in a lopsided way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 10:36 PM
1	CMV: Trying to convince her with the proposal is ALWAYS a bad move. Nah, I'm not going to disagree. Proposals are a form of PDA, and PDA is visual pollution on public spaces. This practice should end.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 10:30 PM
1	Women's Sexual Fantasies More Self Focused Compared to Men's Well, I'll weight in but I'm warning first that I'm Ace and obviously the Ace brain is wired differently when it comes to sex. And my views and experiences are not representative of all Asexuals, as each Ace is their own person with their own experiences, tastes and opinions. ... That's not how my fantasies are at all. Mine are scenarios where I'm not present in any way, shape of form, and the focus (or the "fun" if it makes sense) is on the situation and it's themes, not the characters and also…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 10:26 PM
1	Is status more important than personality? Imo, both are closely and intricately connected so it would do OP injustice to just give a simple answer. But for the sake of brevity and a love for cynicism, I'll say this: There is no incel billionnaire. Nuff said.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 09:39 PM
4	CMV: Desire is not binary I have a very hard time not thinking OP is making this point in bad faith. Because in practice it means that if someone wants another person but the other doesn't want, they should just orbit the other and keep at it until His/Her Highness whims to change their mind. That's just the Friendzone debacle all over again! I'm getting flashbacks of 2012!	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 09:07 PM
1	CMV: Desire is not binary If an apartment costs 100m Rubles, you can only buy it if you have at least 100m Rubles. There is definitely a spectrum of wealth: you can have 0 Rubles, 1000 Roubles, 1234567890 Rubles, a sextillion Rubbles, an Avogrado Constant of Rubles and so on. But if you don't have at least 100m, you can't buy the apartment. In this case, wealth IS objectively binary: you either have enough money or you don't. The same goes for attraction. The other person can have any amount of attraction, but it means n…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 09:00 PM
3	CMV: Desire is not binary Highly disagree. The Bible says "Faith Without Works Is Dead" for a very good reason. This maxim means that any mental state that doesn't necessarily influence, inhibit, promote or regulate external behaviour is as good as not existing at all. It's completely useless to, say, say you are X but you don't look X, don't speak X and don't do X. At this point, it's simply safe to judge that you're either being insincere or at least are very misguided and/or misinformed. Either way, that's not a good …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 08:49 PM
8	Why do men crave romantic interest so much? I like the implication of that dutifulness, conscietiousness and responsibility are such not a natural feature of the Human Race, very few people would consider ensuing the very survival of the species if there was no lizardbrained, hedonistic incentive for reproductive acts. This explains a few things.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 08:12 PM
5	Why do men crave romantic interest so much? Maybe they don't bring up the matter of parenthood because they think it goes without saying? It's fairly reasonable to assume that family building tends to follow succesful relationships. At least it's what most Media seems to imply.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 08:07 PM
11	Why do men crave romantic interest so much? Couldn't it be argued that there is non-biological aspect to it? I mean, I'd argue that being romantically rejected boils down to a personal attack because romance (at least how it should be in it's succesful and ideal state) is fairly inextricable from identity and personality, as well highly associated to physicality, which in turn is also highly associated to identity. It is, when a person is rejected, they aren't being rejected over marginal things dissociated from their personhood. So, para…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 08:02 PM
6	Why do men crave romantic interest so much? It's immoral and a crime to boink family and pets, you know. And FWBs are not the norm.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 07:55 PM
14	Why do men crave romantic interest so much? "women don't develop a deep hatred for men, (...) nor they become reclusive because they cannot stand being in the presence of couples" Umm... About that... Uh... Anyways. Women don't do that not because they don't want to, it's because they can't. Disenfranchisement is very real. Male incels act out because they're new to the concept of them being on the victim side of oppression and inequality so they have fresh rage to spend. Women are crushed, ground and pruned from the craddle so at the poi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 07:50 PM
5	Main problem with promiscuity is not even that they are bad "if sex is just sex then why not just be okay with an opeb relationship?" Mind blown succesfully. Now excuse me while I pilfer this idea.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 07:39 PM
1	Main problem with promiscuity is not even that they are bad I said no Relativistic answer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 07:36 PM
1	Main problem with promiscuity is not even that they are bad It is perfectly possible for people to be slaves to their passions. Or, in simpler terms, the hallmark of addiction is the addict getting compelled by biological/neurological factors to get their fix and they do often show complex and effortful behaviour out of this coercion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 07:36 PM
2	Main problem with promiscuity is not even that they are bad Then show me examples of absolutely normal people who "just enjoy sex" like that. And please no Relativistic or Post-Modern cop out by questioning the concept of "normalcy". You know it when you see it. Chop-chop.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 07:30 PM
0	Main problem with promiscuity is not even that they are bad That orgy was quite literally a cry for help.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 07:29 PM
1	Main problem with promiscuity is not even that they are bad If only it was for attention. Attention can be beneficial. They do it rather simply because they can. It is, they ressent social order and social responsibility, and try to "regain control" by doing things they know are wrong, just for the sake of doing something they were not commanded to do by either authorities, laws or ethics. This is the mechanism behind most hangups fornicators have with fornication, and clear behaviour typical of abuse victims such as Fawning for promiscuity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 07:21 PM
3	Main problem with promiscuity is not even that they are bad Yes. This all stems from societal apathy and Individualism. As the Bible shows, God castigates those whom He loves. It teaches a very unintuitive but ultimately important lesson: people who hate you don't mind if you destroy yourself through your psychological or material plights. People who love you, on the other hand, will fight tooth and nail to protect you, including from yourself if needs be. Since society is steeped in hatred, bigotry and selfishness, the resulting scenario is not some opp…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 06:54 PM
3	TRP is basically mainstream and most men are waking up to reality, despite women claiming it is still some fringe minority of embittered rejects The Bolsheviks were the fringes of Imperial Russian society and then October happened, the Little Apple's sides were green and Kolchak was ordered not to go further the Urals, and the rest is History. Status Quo's bootlickers are not famous for being good judges of social sentiments. They would be radicals if they knew anything about the real world.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 06:28 PM
1	It’s unhealthy for someone to never having someone else be romantically interested in them. This unhelpfulness will be the cause of much grief in your life, as well as society. Lamentable. Sacrificing the welfare of others on the altar of your self convenience. No wonder you're miserable. You give nothing, and shall get nothing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 06:18 PM
1	CMV: Men Should Stop Taking Social Advice from Women, Especially on Social Media Yeah, that's how it has always felt to me. Only attractive people get to be quirky. Otherwise, you are just being a weirdo. I guess it's because people genuinely dislike you. At least I can relate to the feeling of disliking someone so much, even the smallest things get disproportionately annoying.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 04:18 PM
3	CMV: Men Should Stop Taking Social Advice from Women, Especially on Social Media It costs nothing to refrain from taking a crack at someone.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 03:52 PM
4	CMV: Men Should Stop Taking Social Advice from Women, Especially on Social Media Yes. But as I said, this is not always the case. Even I have experienced an example of the "the worst she can say is no" meme. The world may not end, yes, but sometimes the camel is so burdened, a straw breaks it's back. Also, PTSD is the proof of that not everything that doesn't kill you makes you stronger. And that's just my opinion, but I don't think it's possible to feel and process a feeling and then invalidate it just like that. It's like getting stabbed with a knife, recovering and then e…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 03:48 PM
4	CMV: Men Should Stop Taking Social Advice from Women, Especially on Social Media I agree, but with one reservation: the problem of this approach is that it relies on failures being inconsequential, when it's not always the case in this context. Like, I'm a programmer and it took a lot of tries to even begin to get it right, and I would certainly have given up if every time a compiler error or a segfault happened I was attacked with the same feeling of shame, crestfalling and defeat I feel when I tick someone off with my neurodivergent ways when I'm just trying to be friendly…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 03:33 PM
1	CMV: Men Should Stop Taking Social Advice from Women, Especially on Social Media The experiences of others don't necessarily translate to you experiencing the same outcomes from different contexts. On a completely unrelated note, the sky is blue, cats say "meow" and all cops are bastards.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 03:23 PM
–	The end of Roe v Wade has been a disaster for men, women and dating Your opinion is distasteful, but I completely relate and comprehend where it comes from. I appreciate the honesty. I'll take a take like this over virtue signaling any day. Anyways... Yes, the main culprits for unwanted pregnancies are the kinds men who are able to go all the way of being able to so easily seduce a woman he can afford to not die sexless after discarding her, as well as the women who reward this behaviour. The richest part of this all is seeing how much of a moral trainwreck is t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 02:21 PM
–	The end of Roe v Wade has been a disaster for men, women and dating OP, all morality has long gone right out of the window when the summary execution of babies became a debatable topic. If not even human lives are sacred, then don't complain if human convenience is not sacred either.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 01:49 PM
1	It’s unhealthy for someone to never having someone else be romantically interested in them. I'm yet to ever see anyone at all, regardless of gender, ever say that not having a certain trait is not deal breaker for dating, AND them currently dating someone who doesn't have this trait. It always the same excuse of "But I dated people who aren't X" (as in, dated, not dating anymore, and GUESS WHY) and/or "I know someone who wasn't X but they pulled in dates" (it's always someone else, and the person didn't date such unicorn, because GUESS WHY), and/or "I'm not attracted to my significant …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 03:07 AM
3	It’s unhealthy for someone to never having someone else be romantically interested in them. Disadvantages are guarantees of defeat in discriminatory, competitive systems. Why do you think Olympic sports are so head-over-heels about doping? If one has an advantage, all others are in disadvantage, therefore doomed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 02:52 AM
1	It’s unhealthy for someone to never having someone else be romantically interested in them. And it just means you're wrong. No place for you in a proper debate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 02:50 AM
0	It’s unhealthy for someone to never having someone else be romantically interested in them. This is true only in some cases. What happens often is that the gatekeepers of resources are leveraging on this privilege to set the prices for their own and exclusive benefit, and there is nothing short of violence revolution and expropriation that people can do about it. It is, since men cannot get what they want without a woman's consent at all, then the woman can dictate the terms and suffer no penalty for purposedly making it inaccessible. The same goes the other way. This is a very common …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 02:48 AM
16	It’s unhealthy for someone to never having someone else be romantically interested in them. Those who deny it simply don't outright do so directly. They usually deny it by employing Just World Fallacy and excusing all injustice away by attributing the fault to the victims and the victims alone. They love to make it look like the dating scene is a pristine utopia, with zero inherent flaws, that always works smoothly so any problems in it are caused by individual misuse, mishandling and misunderstanding. The System never needs to be fixed, it's always YOU who must be fixed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 02:31 AM
0	It’s unhealthy for someone to never having someone else be romantically interested in them. The flustered one I see here is you	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 02:25 AM
2	It’s unhealthy for someone to never having someone else be romantically interested in them. "It has worked to an extent" I don't think so. It's more likely that already existing chubbychasers simply came out of the woodwork due to media astroturfing a normalization of the fetish, making it look like the campaign worked because the number of people attracted to fats apparently "increased". This is what happened to several others things, such as Autism, ADHD, Left-Handedness and Transgenderism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 02:14 AM
6	It’s unhealthy for someone to never having someone else be romantically interested in them. Yes, they spent millions if not billions to do it. But you forgot to mention that this solved nothing. We still have an absolute minority of succesful women in STEM fields. Girls aren't not doing STEM because they can't, they aren't doing STEM simply because they don't want to. I say this as a woman who did STEM. In all my time in college, I was one of a grand total of three girls in the Computer Science student body. And mind you, I'm from Eastern Europe and education here is 100% free, all the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 02:02 AM
1	It’s unhealthy for someone to never having someone else be romantically interested in them. What if he answers yes to this backhanded insult disguised as a """favour"""? Don't answer, as I already know what will happen. The Just World Fallacy will just have you move the goalposts.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 01:49 AM
7	It’s unhealthy for someone to never having someone else be romantically interested in them. If it was at all possible, don't you think people would have figured it out by now?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 01:45 AM
7	It’s unhealthy for someone to never having someone else be romantically interested in them. Stoicism? You mean the pseudo-spiritual excuse of a philosophy that is pretty much just glorified rationalization, and that couldn't save the society it was invented in from passivity in face of doom? If you like your grapes sour, more power to you. The rest of us have different preferences.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 01:40 AM
3	It’s unhealthy for someone to never having someone else be romantically interested in them. You're right, the chance is indeed slim. Because people usually aren't fond of people perceived as inferior having nice things. The sheer amount of irrational condescension and weariness that AI lovers already get right now will ramp up exponentially if it becomes widely accessible.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 01:37 AM
2	It’s unhealthy for someone to never having someone else be romantically interested in them. Asexuals can't go without romance, just like most people. Aromantics can but they still have emotional needs, they just can best fulfill those with QPRs or FWBs instead of traditional relationships. Anyways, I don't like this kind of this discourse very much. Humanity has a huge, consistent track record of not going out of it's way for the disenfranchised, despite being widely and throughoutly informed of their plights. For instance, starvation is a very serious condition that causes death and i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 01:29 AM
7	There are no consequences to being a "bad person" and no incentives to be a "good person" when dating for short-term. This is such an universal fact of life, even the Bible engages this question, and twice at that. Indeed, there is no extrinsical consequence to just using the anonymity of life in urban Capitalism. But it's because this anonymity is punishment enough. If you do bad for no consequence, you also do good for no significant benefit, which renders your existance as good as useless and frivolous. And good freaking luck not going insane with this realization and squandering your shot at life. Ask Nietz…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/24 10:32 PM
1	Urging your lover to lose weight would be more okay if you insist on exercising and dieting with her/him. I can only speak for myself, but if I wanted to date the kind of person who needs my help to such an extent, I'd be in jail or at least people would say "Nice" when hearing of me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/24 06:14 PM
4	Urging your lover to lose weight would be more okay if you insist on exercising and dieting with her/him. It talks more about the man loving a standard of fitness instead of the woman, than about her being disrespectful.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/24 06:09 PM
1	Urging your lover to lose weight would be more okay if you insist on exercising and dieting with her/him. How exactly?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/24 06:08 PM
1	The Red Pill perpetuates itself by setting men up to fail Yes, that's the point. If you are actually in a bad place, you don't pull yourself together. You were at the lower point of your not-so-bad place. It's not the same thing. It's like telling a legless person that they can become a great runner like you because you made the effort to exercise your legs. People with real troubles can only get out if thoroughly helped from without. It is real dismissive of others to assume they can help themselves, specially because it clears everyone else from soci…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/24 05:58 PM
2	Urging your lover to lose weight would be more okay if you insist on exercising and dieting with her/him. What if the lover who is requesting the other to lose weight doesn't need a diet?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/24 05:40 PM
2	CMV: love is a weapon of the patriarchy This kind of conspiracy theory is the funniest one. It's the kind that paints a group as an hypercompetent social engineering force that holds the hearts and minds of Humanity on a vicegrip, but when you look at them, they are just normal people with no less struggles in life than the rest of us, if not more disenfranchised than the average. It's the same as Germans back in the day. They would say Jews were Untermensch who just connived their way into spiritual hegemony over the globe, at the sa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/24 04:22 PM
2	CMV: love is a weapon of the patriarchy Reminds me of rightwingers saying that empathy and compassion are being weaponized by progressives to make people side with minorities rather than with polite society. I remember the term "bleeding heart" was thrown around as an insult often back in 2016-2017 or so.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/24 03:57 PM
–	"Things being done TO you by an assertive partner alleviates shame" vs "men want a bangmaid mommy fall into their laps". I think interpersonal skills and empathy suffice for "training". Like, have you ever been to therapy? If doing that requires outright formal training, then we are facing a full Calhounian societal collapse because social animals aren't social animaling anymore.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/24 01:12 PM
–	"Things being done TO you by an assertive partner alleviates shame" vs "men want a bangmaid mommy fall into their laps". I already explained it. I'll reword it then. Relationships, due to their close, emotional, personal nature, are the most appropriate venues for mental healthcare due to them being purposed for fulfilling emotional needs, which are most often associated with mental health issues. I'd argue that leaving this kind of work for "professionals" is suboptimal because it adds unnecessary overhead for functions that could be fulfilled without the need for third parties. It's like saying that a married pe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/24 12:18 PM
1	"Things being done TO you by an assertive partner alleviates shame" vs "men want a bangmaid mommy fall into their laps". Because?... I mean, just a categorical statement is not a very convincing argument, you know	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/24 11:39 AM
1	"Things being done TO you by an assertive partner alleviates shame" vs "men want a bangmaid mommy fall into their laps". The problem of saying people aren't free therapists is that it implies that people shouldn't be there for their lovers, which is an incredibly toxic belief. I mean, yeah, it's exhausting to deal with someone else's mental issues. But... Aren't relationships kinda supposed to be for this purpose? People like to go off about how mentally unhealthy it is to be perpetually single, but for some freaking reason nobody wants to make relationships be good for mental health. What's up with that? It's bad…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/24 10:52 AM
1	The Red Pill perpetuates itself by setting men up to fail If you got out of a bad mentality, you just was never in a bad place and eventually your mentality simply adjusted to your reality. So your advice is not very valid for people who actually are in a bad place.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/24 10:08 AM
1	The Red Pill perpetuates itself by setting men up to fail Counterpoint: Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not after you. It is, just because one doesn't believe they can pull off a great dating life doesn't mean they actually can. This belief didn't form from a vacuum, it was formed by experiences and honest evaluation of those. Nobody simply woke up one day and said "Wouldn't it be cool if I was an awkward mess?". Not even the Redpill was created this way. Men were not having a good time at dating when it was created, the difficulties …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/24 10:05 AM
–	Why does honesty never work when dating women? The problem is not the honesty, the problem is what you are saying honestly. This applies to all cases of honesty, not just dating. Some things are worth hiding and keeping to yourself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/24 09:53 AM
5	Seems like the women that men here actually want wont go 50/50 on dates. I was hoping your definition would help me understand where even this question comes from	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 12:43 PM
5	Seems like the women that men here actually want wont go 50/50 on dates. You seem to have a concept of gentlemanliness very different from mine. Could you elaborate on it?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 12:39 PM
8	Seems like the women that men here actually want wont go 50/50 on dates. I think it would be better if a gentleman just avoid women who don't match the energy	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 12:33 PM
1	Q4W: Do you think it's sexist/misogynistic/problematic for a man to fully avoid and decenter women? The problem is not misogynists who do that. The problem is misogynists who DON'T do that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 11:32 AM
15	Seems like the women that men here actually want wont go 50/50 on dates. Never expect a gentleman if you aren't a lady.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 11:27 AM
-1	Many men are fine with “misandrist” stereotypes as long as it targeted towards men they view as an out group. Nothing more than their moral obligation	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 08:04 AM
1	Society cannot make any given individual attracted to another individual enough to create more long lasting relationships. It’s all down to you to become attractive. I don't think this is a Zero-Sum Game. Marriage may be, because obviously people can only marry one person so every marriage makes two people unavailble for the "market". But marriage is not all there is to human relationships, specially considering that friendship is a very viable option. Also, it's not like non-Christians are essentially monogamous, we can't assume people will stick to only one mate. Anyways, that's not how you play a Zero-Sum Game. The only winning move is not to play it, and…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/24 09:10 PM
-1	Has Mandatory Use of Dating Apps Changed the Game? It's only mandatory if the Constitution says you must use dating apps. The word you're looking for is "necessary". Also, if negative outcomes are what discourages you from attempting, you're just unwilling to take risks for getting a date, which is very unmasculine. Whatever happened to just unironically go hunt, go to wars, work on skycraper building sites without safety equipment, start business, sail the seas for spices and whatever men did in the "good old days when dating worked"? Do you re…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 11:20 PM
5	Society can actually fix dating. And this can happen voluntarily and does not require violence For all we know, this could be Humanity's very first body shaming meme, within it's original context.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 10:50 PM
2	Society can actually fix dating. And this can happen voluntarily and does not require violence Well, it means that changing standards of attractiveness requires changing the social context quite fundamentally. I mean, life was very different back when they made the Willendorf Venus. You can't change just a few marginal aspects of society (which is all that's possible without at least a WW3 scenario) and expect beauty standards to change radically like this. The point is that just because it's possible doesn't mean it's reasonably achievable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 10:49 PM
5	Society can actually fix dating. And this can happen voluntarily and does not require violence Service is Love. Submission is Womanhood. Marriage is Life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 10:22 PM
2	Society can actually fix dating. And this can happen voluntarily and does not require violence Not only the appearance factor, also the personality. Men want very specific personality traits in women, and those who don't have those are just dismissed as "used goods", "damaged", "high maintenace", "bossy", "b_tchy", etc. I mean, Human connection necessarily requires navigating through difficulties and incompatibilities. A lot of people have trauma, bad backgrounds, frustrations, maldaptative responses, quirks and stuff that are prickly, but can't be swept under the rug, and sometimes grace…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 10:19 PM
6	Society can actually fix dating. And this can happen voluntarily and does not require violence The gender ratio being 50/50 doesn't mean there is one person for one another. Attraction doesn't work this way. Would a man simply accept to marry literally any woman availble? I really don't think so. I mean, let's say there are 100 men and 100 women. Then we make one man at a time choose any of the women to marry. What are the odds of each single man choosing one woman who has not been chosen by other man? This is a rethoric question. It means that after the first men take their picks, the re…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 09:54 PM
1	Society can actually fix dating. And this can happen voluntarily and does not require violence If your friends don't count as life partners, then you need better friends.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 09:48 PM
1	Society can actually fix dating. And this can happen voluntarily and does not require violence They don't want transactional relationships? Then why the complaints of women "not bringing anything to the table"? Non-transactional relationships don't hinge on "bringing to the table" and thus don't fail due to contractual rescision. If men really wanted sincerity and not transactionality, then platonic friendships make the cut and then some: the woman is sincere about non-commitment and nobody owes the other anything. Problem solved. Except it's not problem solved because the problem is that…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 09:43 PM
–	Society can actually fix dating. And this can happen voluntarily and does not require violence Traditional marriages can only possibly work (the way tradcons think they should, it is) if both the spouses are real faithful Christians, who indeed are internally transformed by supernatural, divine powers into becoming self-sacrificially loving, deferrent to others, meek, immaterialistic, conciliatory, and humble. Otherwise, it is a 90 degrees, frictionless slippery slope on the gravity of Sun's surface, to abuse and ressentiment. Even as a Christian I say that the breakout from Traditionalis…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 09:32 PM
2	Society can actually fix dating. And this can happen voluntarily and does not require violence Only jokes about Masha work in this format.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 09:23 PM
2	Society can actually fix dating. And this can happen voluntarily and does not require violence The dating market has reached it's current state organically. It is bad because the people in it are bad. After all, there is no magical cosmic power mindcontrolling anyone into becoming overdemanding and unsociable, nor there are any written rules enforced by authorities commanding people so. It is, people are getting what they are paying for. The system is operating as it should. The problem is in the expectations of the people. They expect to get love, but they are using the system to get oth…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 09:20 PM
6	Society cannot make any given individual attracted to another individual enough to create more long lasting relationships. It’s all down to you to become attractive. The problem is that flawed and unfair games can only be improved if those who win at it are either removed or are convinced to give up on their advantages in the name of fairness, which is something that has never happened in Human History, at least not by peaceful means. The winners will block all attempts at making the game fair because fairness means they will lose. They will pull the ladder so they can be the only ones at the top. They will excuse this discourtesy by claiming that losers don…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 07:19 AM
5	Whenever People Say They Have Problems Dating, Most of The Time It’s This Are you young or something? Why are you observing that attractive people can afford not to be desperate and settling when it comes to dating, whereas those not so attractive can't afford it? This is how things have always been, even before dating apps (or urbanization if you want to go that far), it just happened that people had much less diverse pools of basis of comparison to judge attractiveness. Or am I misreading it?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 10:33 PM
5	Men and women don't understand each other, but smugly pretend to have the other completely figured out, locking the other gender into small boxes. A fine example of the point I'm making. This one has not only accepted the box, furnished it and bought amenities; they're also going to develop it and then flip it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 12:17 AM
1	Complaining about dating’s unfairness as a man will lead to nothing and is a pointless endeavour Why would ignoring the issue be the only alternative to grumbling about it? Addressing the issue is a good starter. This can be done by simply adopting a sensible approach. Instead of making demands, negotiate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/24 11:01 PM
2	Blue Pilled assumptions about power dynamics do NOT reflect the majority of reality Uuuuh... Yes? I'm new to this sub. Is BP unironically followed by people here?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/24 10:19 PM
2	Blue Pilled assumptions about power dynamics do NOT reflect the majority of reality Yes, it's still true.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/24 10:03 PM
–	Women generally prefer older men, but at the same time a man who's in his 30s and still single is seen as a red flag. What is the inconsistency here? If people like to eat bread and some loaf ends up being left on the market stall for too long, it gets moldy, of course people will be further discouraged of buying it. Arguing about people's tastes in bread will not help because it will boil down to arguing that people should never leave any loaf unpurchased and/or that mold is not too bad and finding it disgusting configures as a moral flaw, which is unreasonable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/24 09:47 PM
-3	Complaining about dating’s unfairness as a man will lead to nothing and is a pointless endeavour Grumbling is a sin in Christianity for a reason, and OP's point is part of this reason. The problem of grumbling is that it not only does nothing to solve the grievance that causes it, it even makes the actual solution even less feasible because it builds ressentiment against those who can present and/or implement such solution, leaving the grievance to remain unmolested. It is an ouroboros of negativity as the grievance just reinforces itself. It is, even if it is indeed women's fault that men …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/24 09:33 PM
5	If Dating Worked for Most Men Everything About Dating Would Flip on Women We can fly in clouds of hypothetical contexts all we want, but this will change nothing because daydreaming is not a particularly productive activity. I think your point would hold more water if you could demonstrate how, in practical terms, we could transition from our real world context to this hypothetical premise so we can see if the conclusions would be indeed what you envision. Why? Because if your point relies on entirely fictional and unrealistic premises, then your hypothesis is useless…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/24 09:21 PM
6	Blue Pilled assumptions about power dynamics do NOT reflect the majority of reality Power dynamics can happen over even unexpected sources of power? News at 11. Anyways, your point relies on the premise of that people are victims of seduction rather than just people engaging in a social protocol and getting emotionally invested out of their Free Will. Many people might disagree because it would paint men as mindless drones that just see ladyparts and can't help but to ooga booga give money to female. I wouldn't lowkey insult half of the world's population like that, but you do …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/24 09:10 PM
18	Men and women don't understand each other, but smugly pretend to have the other completely figured out, locking the other gender into small boxes. And the worse part is that the genders accept the boxes they get locked in, and also furnish the boxes and install full amenities. Men criticize women for not being graceful and supportive? Women double down on rugged individualism. Women criticize men for being entitled? Men just argue that they are indeed entitled and the problem is that this entitlement is interpreted as a societal failure. It's fun to watch, but it's tragic nevertheless.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/24 08:55 PM
-1	Feminists fearing and resenting men they never met is called sexism (II) You have missed the memo. Didn't you know that noticing patterns of behaviour in human groups is bigotry? /s	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/24 08:49 PM
0	Feminists fearing and resenting men they never met is called sexism (II) Deflecting an argument with calling out of whataboutism is a move as scummy as whataboutism itself because it is indeed deflecting criticism	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/24 08:47 PM
1	Women have degrade young men and that’s why they are starting to date older Last time I checked, female predators date boys because they are vulnerable and easily manipulated, not because they have some sort of masculinity that is effective but arbitrarily unacknowledged.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/24 01:52 AM
1	Marriage is a substitute for love. If people love each other, they won't feel the need to marry? Maybe. But why would they feel they shouldn't marry? Because if they start listing the disadvantages of marriage, all of which are borne from people failing to comply to it's principles, do they really love and trust each other? After all, if they so easily assume the other won't keep their part of the deal, then this is anything but trust. If they don't trust each other, then they ought not to marry indeed, but it also means they don…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/24 01:39 AM
2	Too many men destroy their own confidence. They’re too convinced that everything is against them, and it hurts their dating chances. This. OP ignores that people have Free Will. People have every right they get to choose to acquiesce or not to efforts, for whatever reason or non reason they see fit. You can do everything right and people simply won't feel like rewarding you, and that's okay, and you can do everything wrong and people might feel merciful and help you and ignore some flaws, and that's okay. OP acts like, say, a Counter Strike player writing out an entire step-to-step script to win a competitive match, and when …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/24 01:23 AM
1	Too many men destroy their own confidence. They’re too convinced that everything is against them, and it hurts their dating chances. If I hold the keys to my success, then what about all the people involved in providing me with the rewards of success? They don't have Free Will? It all hinges on my own ability to rizz people?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/24 01:16 AM
1	Too many men destroy their own confidence. They’re too convinced that everything is against them, and it hurts their dating chances. Which one is it? If it's wrong for males to feel their despair, then you're showing you don't really believe what you preach. Negative thoughts are exactly as valid as positive ones. You either discriminate, leading to suppression of both, or you don't discriminate, leading to acceptance of both.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/24 01:14 AM
1	Too many men destroy their own confidence. They’re too convinced that everything is against them, and it hurts their dating chances. Counterpoint: the acceptance of other people 100% determines your worth. We are not isolated islands. If people dislike you, you are objectively lacking. If you dismiss other people's opinions like that to the point of it not affecting you, you aren't being strong nor mature, you are just being emotionally unavailble and callously denying connection to people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/24 01:11 AM
4	Too many men destroy their own confidence. They’re too convinced that everything is against them, and it hurts their dating chances. Your sincerity about your distasteful feelings is morally worth more than a thousand false pretensions at acceptable feelings. I commend you for this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/24 01:08 AM
2	Too many men destroy their own confidence. They’re too convinced that everything is against them, and it hurts their dating chances. We wallow in self-pity, you wallow on your high horse. We're even.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/24 12:47 AM
2	Too many men destroy their own confidence. They’re too convinced that everything is against them, and it hurts their dating chances. Yes, let me focus on my depression over the lack thereof in other people. (/s, just in case. People nowadays...)	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/24 12:46 AM
0	Too many men destroy their own confidence. They’re too convinced that everything is against them, and it hurts their dating chances. Kind of, but no. Dry spells are not counter-evidences to competence, they are statistical anomalies that have investigable causes, which only rarely (if not never) have anything to do with confidence. Also... Being good at one thing makes you be able to be good at anything? That's certainly the take of 2024. If it was true, people wouldn't be bad at anything at all. If you say people just don't want to improve, then we're through with this conversation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/24 12:45 AM
1	Men hating on women for the ease access to casual sex is like when poor kid hates on rich kid for the ease access to toys. You are trying to detach two things that aren't detachable in reality: attitudes and values behind the attitudes. What does it prove that women value sex less than males? It only proves that they have valid reasons to do so, which is clearly what you are trying to steer away from the argument. Also, your argument is oddly neoliberal in nature, as it puts both the rich kid and a poor kid in a very unfair position: the poor kid has to pull themselves up by their bootstraps by "creating" wealth ex …	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/07/23 11:22 AM
1	Men hating on women for the ease access to casual sex is like when poor kid hates on rich kid for the ease access to toys. I don't think this analogy is very good, because there is far less personal, health, social and safety liabilities in a rich kid donating a toy than in a woman "donating" a begrudging relationship to an unqualified male. Another crack in the analogy is that the poor kid seems to be working hard to become rich, which is something that can very well happen without any need for the rich kid to "step down". But reality is not like that. Reality is that the poor kid needs the rich kid to outright giv…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/23 10:30 AM
2	Do you really think "sex just happens"? Sex doesn't "just happen", in the sense of it happening with little input or initiative of the one in the short end of the stick. Rape does. What your friend has experienced is a series of Statutory SA cases where she couldn't validly consent, and is giving consent post-hoc, which is the kind of thing that perpetuates rape culture.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/23 10:03 AM