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Better to be true to yourself and alone than false and lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 01:53 PM
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All jobs are high value. Absolute EMPTY platitude. Ah, yes, the janitor, doctor, and engineer are all high-value jobs. /s What do you think the hobbies of most people are? It's doomscrolling/Netflix/games. Sorry to burst your bubble. The people who choose their professions are more than likely not taking it home unless the job requires them to and hobbies are not dictated by job, maybe by income though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 05:56 PM
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The red pill as a whole does not share the same end goal. There are MGTOW, PUA, etc. The red pill, however, does share a philosophy of debunking societal platitudes that are wrong and understanding what the other gender responds to. You only see more sex chasers because all the others aren't trying to appeal to the opposite gender, and they aren't coming up with new pseudoscience strategies to get around.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 05:17 PM
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I see trad woman and red pill woman as two different categories. Red pill woman is a woman who debunks the blue pill and heavily favors sex escapades and men-oriented strategies. A tradwife is a traditional woman who believes in LTR and usually takes a more traditional role. This is not limited to stay-at-home wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 04:46 PM
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Bimbos/E-girls/K-pop wannabes are all performative people, and they try to appeal to be desirable in men's aesthetic view. Men aren't pretending they genuinely find these kinds of people PHYSICALLY attractive. If there is one thing I have learned, it is that there is no such thing as a red pill woman; they tend to be all grifters. A large number of the red pill men are also grifters. 10/10 woman is just obviously going to be desirable. Your argument relies on men pretending, but men are not pret…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 04:16 PM
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Thing is, making impulsive and bad decisions is common around age 18 than it is at 30. Stop infantilising women. It is 100% "Alpha Fucks Beta Bucks", especially the higher the body count. Not only that, the circumstances and goals about dating changes with age Her circumstances are likely that she is older and scared of being dumped by a more desirable man with more options. Her goals would have only changed due to fear and not principles. It's lipstick on a pig. And I don’t know where we’re get…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 03:59 PM
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I don't know, but I don't think it is a gender issue either. I do think the same thing for any woman, any man I care about is dating. If you want to cross the street when you see me, go ahead. Is it sexism, though? Yes, but I don't care. Society should not be guilting people to forsake safety for moral grandstanding. It is up to you to decide what is of greater value, aspiring to remove prejudice or your safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 09:58 AM
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I think a definitive test would be a better way of saying it, but yes, I agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 09:43 AM
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"Not all men are bad" means men as a group are not collectively guilty. The act of filtering or protecting your daughter/sister is not contradictory to that. This argument was you taking a slogan and not understanding what it meant. It is foolish to live without the precaution of the possibilities of bad things happening, especially for things you care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 09:30 AM
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That is purely a cultural/values problem. People who move to America from low-income countries still have a larger number of children, but by the next generation, it drops. Modernized countries' natural-born people have chosen what is more important between personal freedom and the future of society. They simply don't see marriage or children as worth having if it means giving up freedom. People used to enter marriages all the time with a grandiose or vague idea of what it would be like. People …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 03:40 AM
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I think the most basic answer would be the juice is not worth the squeeze or the gain < the loss. It is not so much that they see the evils, but that they see the downsides. Financial woes are not valid, because the poorest countries have the most children. Screentime/social media, however, probably exacerbates anti-social behaviour. People are still "dating" (it's really just long-term hookups), they just aren't staying together. Everyone is hyperaware of the divorce rates and the dangers of da…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 03:13 AM
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Common Sense Pill FTW
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 01:01 AM
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It doesn't. Vetting men helps women and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 12:54 AM
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Huh, how does picking a more unattractive woman protect you from any of those things?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 12:46 AM
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Seeking treatment -> being an adult (the bare minimum) Plenty of people wouldn't doesn't mean your children are not going to be affected. Doesn't mean his battle with depression is over. You signed up for certain chances, so be ready to face them. Once again, if you love someone enough, go ahead, but those kinds of trials test even the most saintly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 12:36 AM
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No. I am saying not to risk dealing with someone who has a mental illness. That person's psyche is irrational by virtue of being mentally ill. There are plenty of red flags for people with no trauma and people should always take that into account.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 12:27 AM
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You want me to only look at what a person has gone through versus what they've done to get better? Saying "only" is disingenuous. Sure, getting help improves the situation, but just having a mental illness makes you a risk. I wouldn't want my child feeling guilty, heartbroken, or trapped because they have a duty to their lover. Let's take this argument to the extreme -- would you tell your child that it's a good idea to entertain someone with depression? What about anxiety? I would say not to en…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 12:19 AM
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No, I would tell that person with a broken leg, you are probably going to have more leg problems later. In your case, I would say you are more than likely to have mental issues even after therapy. RED FLAG Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster - something that indicates or draws attention to a problem, danger, or irregularity They are not saying that going to therapy is the wrong choice; He is saying that going to therapy indicates mental problems. You know what sucks about being in a relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 08:50 PM
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How does that disprove what he said? It actually supports it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 08:23 PM
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Most parents don’t teach their kids how to handle big emotions in a healthy way. The problem I have is, what do you mean by "healthy way"? Who decides "hyper sensitive"? People like to say that therapy is amoral, but that isn't true. The therapist is still a person with values and opinions. They are going to steer you to "peace", essentially meaning influencing your sense of values. Go study psychology and philosophers; they all have different views of morality. If you have a weak sense of value…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 07:10 PM
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Society wants freedom, but they don't want accountability. Being a single parent is lauded, and sleeping around is treated as a fun, casual idea rather than a privilege. Why would men even aspire to be fathers when women themselves aren't either? Child rearing starts before your child is even an embryo. In the US, there is a single mother epidemic. It is a twofold problem. Women are picking the wrong man, and men are sleeping with women, risking children, but are not willing to raise kids. If yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 06:14 PM
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You seem to be out of touch here If you think that being below replacement birth in the long term is not going to create a dystopia. YOU are out of touch. What are your concerns about AI? (Please don't say art)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 10:39 PM
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And lots of women voted for Trump Public sentiments never change /s So fuck your election. Stop whining and win the next one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 10:07 PM
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Bad faith argument. You know I'm arguing that men need Men-only spaces. Just like girls are encouraged and sponsored to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 09:00 PM
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You don't think it is radical that people are not preparing for the future. You are only trying to frame it in a women vs man, rather reality vs ideals. I think it's pretty radical to believe that women should spend our lives being broodmares Hm. Proved my point. Getting into relationships is not a sin. Promoting community is not a sin. If you don't want children, sure. THE WHOLE POINT is that we should promote a framework of an ideal (but based in reality) relationship dynamic that pushes socie…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 07:52 PM
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CAUTION: Speaking from the position of a man By settle, I mean marry to clarify. It depends, at least to me, on the stage of life you are in, as well as your sentiments. You should settle when you are younger, preferably below 35, and do not settle for those divorcees. If you are lonely and young, try to find some good coping mechanisms, maintain your health, and find someone to settle with. If you are lonely and older, the same thing, but if you can't get over loneliness, get a casual girlfrien…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 07:33 PM
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There's nothing "natural" about men oppressing and coercing and restricting women into high pairing rates. In nature, unqualified males do not reproduce. Oh my bad, I thought you were referring to the baby boom. "Radicalization" to you appears to be women not behaving the way you think we should. You are taking this way too personally and trying to make it a gender war thing. It's because you don't actually care about the future of society; it's an individualistic point of view. We are not going…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:59 PM
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love how men always assume the birthrate is artificially low You are utilizing the word artificially wrong. It was natural causes, because war is a natural phenomenon. Women don't need to be "radicalized" to not want kids or relationships I don't care about women not wanting kids or relations. I care that we are in an unsustainable society. Instead, when you give women the opportunity to opt-out, plenty of us do so Which men then gaslight as "radicalization" 🙄 If not at all planning for future d…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:16 PM
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Correlation =/= causation. It's been going down for decades at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:51 PM
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You are on Reddit... you literally have nazis, commies, incels, and Radical Feminists. They are given the biggest voice on the internet. Again, perhaps I think better of men than you Let's agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:50 PM
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Men's spaces are sued out of existence. The gyms, the male clubs, Boy Scouts. The whole point is that society should support male-only spaces, so they feel connected to society. This loneliness epidemic is just going to isolate them and vote for their own interest. Women keep getting mad because I point out that men should have social programs. LOL. "YOU WANT A SEX DRAFT?!" What these women are unhinged!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:48 PM
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Women-only spaces are not held to the same standard as men's. They don't get sued because men don't care about women getting their spaces. They don't want to be involved in those spaces. Women HATE male-only spaces and will go out there way to sue them out of existence or until it is gender neutral. It won't create them, that's the point. The point of fostering a community is to incentivize men to invest in society. If men feel isolated or lonely, they are just going to vote for themselves. Wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:45 PM
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What rights? Men mostly support abortion; they want women to be able to abort their babies. They are not going to vote for equity because it overwhelmingly supports women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:41 PM
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Nordic countries' 'happy' reputation masks sadness of young, says report | Happiness indices | The Guardian In Nordic countries, they found, 12.3% of the population are struggling or suffering. That rose to 13.5% of the 18 to 23 year age group. Among Swedish young women, it is 19.5% – nearly one in five – compared with 13.8% of Swedish young men. The only age group less happy than the young were the oldest. Among the over-80s, 16% were struggling or suffering, with physical health problems and l…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:39 PM
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What rights? Men are pretty ok with abortion, from my understanding. The problem is women love equity, but men DO NOT benefit from it. DEI was literally for white women. 80% of the recipients of DEI advantages were white women. Not making this a race thing, I don't know the breakdown for other races.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:27 PM
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And by “community”, you clearly mean women having sex they don’t want with men they aren’t attracted to. No, YOU ARE SAYING THAT. I just had a convo with someone about MALE-ONLY spaces. What are you talking about? Incentivize men to invest in society by making them have a sense of community? We need the establishment of men's spaces with government support. Women keep suing men-only spaces like Boy Scouts, gyms, etc. That needs to be put to an end. There are no long-standing male establishments …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:18 PM
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Do you mean abortion? Also, do you think men would tell you "I want to take your right" even if they did? For some reason, women keep conflating abortion with women's rights. Most men support abortion; it is literally a win for men, for women to have a chance to abort children. Men are not going to vote for equity bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:10 PM
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No, I think most men see abortion as a benefit. They do not want to have children without a chance to abort.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:08 PM
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I am not unhappy, just because I advocate for some men's social programs. You are assuming only sad/angry men want to help the general men population. I'm still working on myself, and I'm still emotionally regulating. I'm not one of these guys who thinks he's entitled to others. I'm one of the guys who realize men who are not served by the system should not serve/support the system.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:06 PM
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You mean you can't drug up and brainwash people into accepting societal norms. That's what therapy is. "You have to cooperate and conform. Here wash down, that angst with drugs, aren't you better!" "Thank doc, I almost ran out of copium."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 07:46 AM
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Can't change minds, but I can sure predict the future of societal relations.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 07:38 AM
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Men don't care about this social justice thing you've got going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 07:36 AM
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Women attempt more, but men die 4 times as much from suicide. Meaning women use it to cry out for help, and men aren't. It's almost like men are committed to committing suicide. And did you say the majority are you drunk? Oh 51% if the male population isn't killing themselves it's all good./s Men needs to stop shitting on therapy and get professional help. Keep saying that, eventually it will work. I like the affirmations. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 07:33 AM
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In 2023, the suicide rate among males in the US was approximately four times higher than the rate among females. Males, though making up only 50% of the population, account for nearly 80% of suicides in the US. You're completely right.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 07:07 AM
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I guess you are right, it did start this election. It will be interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:48 AM
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Elections reveal a growing gender divide across South Korea : NPR Can't be, I don't know what rhetoric they are going to run on. Men already disregard the abortion argument for their own financial gain, so we will see. Men and women, however, will be directly opposing. It will be interesting. The article is an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:46 AM
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If you want men's only groups then you need to get off your arse and form them. Earplugs on, huh? Same rhetoric, "fix it yourself, and we'll attack it later". No problem, the vote will speak for itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:33 AM
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We are literally below the replacement birth rate. Men and women are being radicalized. We are going the way of the South Korean Gender relations. These Blue/Pink pillers keep thinking "Oh, it will work itself out", it will. Men are going to start voting against women's interests. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:27 AM
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Are you being purposely obtuse? MEN NEED MEN-ONLY SPACES. Everyone acknowledges women need women-only spaces, so why is that so difficult for men? Most dudes don't even give a shit about men's only gyms. Those guys who need them have either killed themselves, are using drugs, or are isolated. The second leading cause of death for men in their twenties is SUICIDE, only beaten by unintentional injury. I even showed you an article about the nature of men's communication. Change your flair to BLUE p…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:19 AM
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I can see why they think the problem will go away. Think about the progress women have made in the name of equality. Once the ball started rolling, they were unstoppable; they thought they could just push more. They had all that time to do major PR, but they threw it away; all they did was teach men to hate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:08 AM
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So women need to provide incentive by bringing back the communities they didn't take away in the first place? What are you talking about? They 100% did; they infiltrated all major male spaces and sued them for gender discrimination. Meanwhile, women's spaces are not touched. Every single space to foster male friendship was infiltrated by women and turned into a space where men feel uncomfortable expressing themselves due to women, or a zone for competing for women. Gyms, Workshops, Men's Clubs, …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:03 AM
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You asked how women are allowing this to happen. I told you, they aren't at all trying to address the issue. They are going to say, "Well, men need to figure it out". Guess what? They are figuring out, and their votes are reflecting that. They are going to vote against the interests of women for themselves. We are stripping gender roles to reach "equality", but people are going to feel the difference of being a man and a woman in society. It's only going to get worse with the next generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:48 AM
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HUH!? When did I say that? They have to somehow bring back communities. These dudes are becoming fringe through isolation, isolation which makes them more selfish and individualistic. You need to integrate them into society. Look at SK. The men and women are completely radicalized. Why? Both genders are literally ostracizing and dehumanizing each other; they literally gave birth to the 4B movement. https://preview.redd.it/qibhtrtnspjf1.png?width=2048&format=png&auto=webp&s=459bbf5a54d61aee5c8c77…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:35 AM
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You are kind of asking men to cooperate with no incentive. People are not naturally moral; you have to incentivize and disincentivize to get certain behaviors. As much as people don't want to deal with pendulum reversing, society as a whole caused this. You are going to have to deal with dudes voting in their best interest, unless you are sure you can outvote them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:29 AM
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Huh, what are you talking about? I literally saw you at the Men Monolith Meeting (MMM), I literally saw you vote for the "Big Body Count" (BBC) Bill /s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:24 AM
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Onistea, you are breaking my heart. We are supposed to be nice and civil. D: I still love you and your beautiful brain! <3 <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:12 AM
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You can't lie, that was kind of funny. I think the stock photo is what got me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:05 AM
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Sexual intimacy is not just about pleasure it is deeply tied to self-worth, confidence, and emotional stability. For most men, prolonged sexual rejection leads to depression, anger, and a sense of being fundamentally unwanted. It depends on what you mean by a need. Men do not need sex to function as much as something to have a stake in. No family, no wife, no future, no community. There isn't a variety or a wide enough social structure to encompass these men. Would prostitution be enough, you th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:48 AM
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if you get “scammed” that doesn’t mean women see paying for dates as inherently bad. it’s not like women are insulting the men they do like for paying on dates: that’s just what happens when you pick the wrong woman (that you probably picked because she’s hot) I already explained this paragraph. women don’t use “haha, pay for my dinner asshole!” as a GENERAL insult towards random men they don’t know the way men use “make me a sandwich bitch” to women So, your whole point is that you are hung up …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:45 AM
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if you get “scammed” that doesn’t mean women see paying for dates as inherently bad. What? If a woman goes on a date with a man and never sees him as a prospect, she scammed him of money, time, and effort for a free outing. I SEE IT AS BAD. Of course, the scammer doesn't see it as bad; they won! that’s just what happens when you pick the wrong woman And how do I vet those women? I told you a COFFEE DATE. If she seems genuine and interested, and I'm interested, we will have a better second date. …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:23 AM
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Do you think men feel good being used? If you get scammed, are you not insulted? LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:51 AM
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well, red pill men do like negging women. My friend negs a lot, but it never works to make them infatuated with you. You are supposed to jokefully neg to get her to do a tongue-in-cheek back-and-forth or engage with you in full emotional attention. There is a method to the madness. imagine if women insulted men for paying for dinner They do, though. You keep thinking that women are going to insult them directly, but they don't. They are just going to rope them along to pay for the meal. Is that …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 01:31 AM
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I highly doubt men insult their SOs to get them to cook and clean. More than likely, they use it to jokingly antagonize them; some women enjoy the tongue-in-cheek back and forth. Women know that men like cooking and cleaning, and they are not confused. Some women, however, see it as demeaning due to the ideal modern relationship division of labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 12:52 AM
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Just feel like I need to add some disclaimers lol. Lol, yeah, I understand. Hard enough to verbally talk about this stuff, sometimes text and anonymity skews the tone of the message.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 12:25 AM
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My grandmother is younger than yours. She was in Ethiopia, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 12:21 AM
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Yeah, I actually wonder if there is a stereotypical woman's task that a man can do that would make a woman feel uncomfortable not upholding a woman's traditional gender role.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 11:36 PM
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every woman growing up heard “go make me a sandwich” as an insult and nowadays it’s popular for teen boys to call women “dishwashers” The whole point is to get a reaction. Those dudes weren't trying to win you over in the first place. women don’t insult men for buying flowers and giving massages True. Women pride themselves and are wary of cleaning and cooking because of the historical context. Men, however, don't pride themselves on not giving massages or flowers; men are insulted far more ofte…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 11:22 PM
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Lol, nah you are crazy. Dudes love mechanic girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 09:54 PM
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The problem is that you are to focus on the cooking and cleaning part. It is simply being babied and nurtured. People LOVE being babied; it is like the purest love. When men bring you flowers to lift your mood without prompting, is that unattractive? When they massage your tense muscles, do you not feel loved? Helping take care of your spouse is desirable. No one wants to be a self-sufficient adult out of necessity; they want that affirmation of emotional security. The problem is that some peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 08:43 PM
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I think the days of "looks don't matter, just be nice" are long gone though. I don't even see women saying this anymore. In my experience, people don't bluntly call others ugly, unless in a heated moment, a joke (which sometimes holds truth), or super-confident people who think they can get away with it. Women say, "looks don't matter" to men who ask for advice; that's why the "Don't ask a fish how to catch fish" saying appeared. Women downplay the physical attraction factor as a way of virtue s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 06:19 PM
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It's just so unfortunately common that men complaining about having no romantic success online also resent women amd have some sexist beliefs. It's because online men are getting a flood of information that doesn't adhere to the societal platitudes. Being nice is not a factor in getting love. Love is not negotiable nor a guarantee. Blaming women is wrong; however, pointing out the societal platitudes is not. The only thing women are guilty of is obscuring the truth about gender dynamics. Normal,…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 03:03 PM
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Let's be clear that there is "love" and there is lust. You cannot bargain for lust or love; you either have it or you don't. the same people who say this will also say women throw themselves at criminals. That doesn’t sound terribly conditional. the criminal is presumably not doing anything for the woman. So wouldn’t that be true love? ^^^This is lust. When you sleep with a criminal haphazardly, you're throwing hazard to the wind because you are attracted sexually. This is not only exclusive to …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 05:02 AM
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I sure would. Any man who decides his best bet is to buy a woman 20 years younger than him is a fool and any woman willing to be bought is a prostitute. 30+ single women are just as jaded as 30+ single men. You are not going to get genuine desire as 30-year-old man from her, she had male attention for a decade or more. Meanwhile, you were competing with older men since 18 years old, which the women had no problem entertaining. If you didn't naturally attract a woman, never let that stop you from…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 04:13 AM
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A guy in his 20s who can't pull would be better off improving his looks and personality, trying to date and becoming the best version of himself that matches who he truly wants to be...rather than wasting his physical prime trying to impress his boss with long hours NO NO NO. This is horrible advice for young men. If you are convinced you are ugly, work out/clean up, but DO NOT stunt your financial growth. If you are pulling women naturally, nice, hopefully it works out. If you don't attract wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 04:03 AM
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No one is laughing at them. The women are beautiful and traditional. Men want that, and women abhor that idea. The worst thing a man can do is marry a promiscuous woman, which most Western women are. Men make fun of that, but the woman thinks it's normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 03:55 AM
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Our grandmas are likely born decades apart and of different nations.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 11:26 PM
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There is a reason why religion is important to a society. They set the roles that men and women have in society. Monogamy, so harams don't form and cause mass unmarried men to reject society, while also promoting bachelor's and married men to invest in the community to get women. Men and women had roles for the sake of society, but Western society has outgrown that due to the market and cultural zeitgeist changing. The problem is that they did not think of why those rules are in place. The why m…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 08:00 PM
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Sorry if it came off as me being angry or argumentative. I use Reddit to check my thought processes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 07:30 PM
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Giving women subsidies is not oppression; it's the government being an enabler of stupid choices. I would say women shifted their oppressor to reality; they just think male society is at fault and should bear the brunt of the consequences. "Feminists" or women in general want the government to enrich their lives at the expense of men. They want men to be fathers and husbands, forced by government interference if possible. At the same time, they want to be free of the consequences and responsibil…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 07:28 PM
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The government that is ruling us... just because the people of the nation have little to no obligations does not mean the government is not functioning. Public services still have to be paid for and maintained, and taxes are still going to be extracted from the people. The government has a near monopoly on violence and authority. What are you trying to get at?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 07:08 PM
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Men are not FORCED to hold those jobs. I am NOT a feminist who wants equity among the job force. No offense, but if I'm getting attacked/in a fire and my rescuer is a woman, I might start saying my final rites. They do not have the body to defend others or lift a debilitated man out of danger. I've seen it firsthand. at which point would you say it becomes a gender/sex obligation to uphold a society if women refuse this and similiar kind of work It doesn't become an obligation, and why would it?…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 06:52 PM
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How is that empowerment? If you initiate most of the time, it is someone you are attracted to, but don't know if they are attracted to you. It puts the initiator at risk for critique. You know what is a better way of being empowered? When people risk talking to you because they are attracted to you. That's basic courting 101. Feminism is detached from this. Everyone wants to be THE PRIZE, the problem is that more men see women as the prize than vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 06:35 PM
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How is this based? It would be "based" if she didn't refer to grandma, who probably worked hard asf for the average family man. Grandmother probably handwashed clothes, made meals for the whole family from scratch 3 times a day, reared the children with no daycare or 8 hr schooldays, etc. If modern women had stayed housewives, they would be done with chores in 3-4 hours, laundry would be automated, children would be at school, and dinner would be easier to make. Now, women are just like normal a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 06:25 PM
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if you are a citizen in a society what happens if somebody breaks a law or ignores human rights or riots, fires happen/break out etc? Break a law and get caught -> into the justice system (that has variable sentences and is widely biased based on race or/and gender) ignore human rights -> depends on what you call human rights, if police qualified immunity, politician obfuscation, if a citizen, you are going through the ringer Riots -> sometimes police, politics determine the magnitude Fires -> F…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 06:05 PM
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Modern Democratic countries. Obligations are taxes and the draft, things people are forced to do. Responsibility is more of a social/moral argument. All the things pointed out by OP are simply choices. They don't have the responsibility for those things unless they themselves impose it. Freedom for women means men and women should share those concerns, but they aren't forced responsibilities/obligations. Be the breadwinners of their families, divide the bills while dating or pay all the bill for…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 04:46 PM
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So why, then, are women in Western societies often the most vocal opponents of polygamy? Women DO NOT want to share a husband, unless they like/trust the incoming woman. Why would you want to share resources unless your husband has absolute abundance? Also, children of the other concubines would compete with your children for inheritance and support. Western societies became so great because of monogamy. If you don't have a family, why would you invest in the future or the nation? Sure, the king…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 04:15 PM
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Those are all choices to be responsible and not obligations. They don't just "get responsibilities"; no one assigned them any responsibility or obligations. Women had no financial independence and were treated more like children. The only reason there was an obligation and responsibility for men before was that women had no choice in the matter, so the law and community held him to those standards. There are no responsibilities or obligations. The only legal one I can think of is the draft for m…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 04:00 PM
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obligations and responsabilidades What obligations and responsibilities?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 03:33 PM
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It is not about men being happy; it is female competition. Some women paint foreign women as being taken advantage of or in need of protection. But why? It's a keep my cake and eat it too situation. They don't want the men right now, but they also don't want these dudes phasing out of the dating market for later/their current age market. It is kind of hard competing with a more than likely 20-year-old traditional woman, while being a 30-year-old Western woman, who is not AT ALL chaste. They do t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 03:14 PM
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You think a lot Wish I could say the same about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 01:43 PM
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I don't know a single guy who has even done this. It's only something I hear online. I hang around a lot of 1st generation Americans, so it's pretty common with me. I can see homeland women get the "ick", but it's not like they are the target audience anyway. I guess, honestly, it is a nothing burger.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 01:42 PM
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This is a very offensive topic to speculate about. She was a woman who reached across the aisle of genders and added some perspective and commentary. Unless you have proof of a final letter/official documents of therapy, there is no reason to speculate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 05:49 AM
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Bro, I'm going to need you to seriously think about what you're saying. The men going there have already been ousted from the dating scene. Western women don't want them. We've all seen 90 day fiance. You're not fooling anyone. Why can't it be both? Rejected men can't compete, and homeland women don't want them. The men move to find relations in another country, and it works. That is the only reason homeland women are complaining. They keep framing it as exploitation and hate the outsourcing of …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 04:01 AM
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I want to say no, but the drivable ball is tempting. Honestly, it depends on how long I get to play in the ballmobile.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 01:42 AM
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I think you ran out of them before we started.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 10:53 PM
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Manosphere? I just told men to vet women for motives. What's the film?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 10:39 PM
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And I didn't say it was "black and white". I specifically said some, yet here you are having a schism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 10:31 PM
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All women are angels!/s
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 10:28 PM
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Learn to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 10:24 PM
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I 100% agree on all fronts. P.S. I believe marriage is a religious pact, but l'm against governmental marriage contracts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 10:09 PM
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Are you brain-dead? I said it's not all women multiple times.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 10:06 PM
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Often, the divorce is mutual and again she just ends up being the one who actually files the paperwork. Divorce lawyers will tell you this. If your wife says to divorce, how long are you going to say no? Especially when she brings out the paperwork. Of course, it is "mutual"; if you don't take control of a divorce, you are going to be screwed. I guess you didn’t have a contract to buy a house. I guess she didn’t have an employment contract. I guess she didn’t enter a contract by your car, or ren…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 10:05 PM
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Modern women are not gold diggers You are right! Modern women are angels! They can do no wrong! A woman never divorces; they have unconditional love! /s If you are a minor, grow up. If you are an adult, GROW UP. They're rejecting you for your character. Young men need to understand that. If you think the only thing women take into account is character, you are dim. Women, just like men, love an attractive partner. Women, just like men, seek physical and financial security. Women, just like men, …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 09:48 PM
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Yes. It's a universal behavior among the sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 09:36 PM
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I'm telling you your fears are irrational and women don't want your stupid money LOL! Men do not want to be married to a gold digger. Sorry if that's not a problem for a woman. You are so self-absorbed in the female experience and not thinking about the male experience. Average men do not get lots of attention, so when a woman walks up to them, they are paranoid. Why did she approach me? Does she actually like me? Or is she betting on me being successful or ATM? We're talking about women choosin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 09:31 PM
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Actually I do speak for all modern women. No, you don't, Miss Universe. I'm not scared of gold diggers because I will never enter a contract as dumb as marriage. I just serial date and see how far we can get. If one lasts until old age, oh well. Marriage does not serve me in any way, and if I have children, I'll just fight for custody or child support. But by all means if your fear makes you leave us alone then has at it. You sound bitter, and I mean that in the least offensive way. 50% of marri…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 08:24 PM
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The state supplements children through women, if men took the kids they'd get the state supplements and a child support. Marriages are meant to last until death, yet they happen 50% of the time, and women initiate them 80% of the time. The person who chose divorce chose their spouse, chose to split their family, and chose to force them into a state-involved family dynamic. The governmental institute of marriage is fundamentally broken and outdated. You don't need to be in a government contract t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 08:18 PM
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The subject is men's fear of being a "beta-buck". You don't speak for ALL modern women. Also, a gold digger would never tell their target they are there for the money. Maybe you are lying to me to get MY money! STAY AWAY FROM ME! /s On a serious note, not an irrational fear as stated in my previous comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 07:41 PM
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You are being irrational. 50% of marriages end in divorce. That's freaking HALF of ALL marriages. 80% are initiated by WOMEN. 80 out of 100! They all entered marriage thinking they would last. Men's fear is rational, and women are drastically more likely to divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 07:26 PM
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Men are generally terrible at maintaining social groups. Women are able to create social group events for the sake of social interaction. Lots of men need an activity to focus on to do so. It's mostly a biological thing in my opinion. Testosterone makes men a lot more standoffish without a task at hand. It's why men tend to like construction, being a mechanic, or math.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 07:22 PM
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Women are generally the best at enforcing social standards on everyone without the use of force. It's kind of their whole toolkit. It's why gossip is so powerful. Between men and women, who does the majority of gossiping? Who maintains their social group more? Who has natural social persuasion on the virtue of being the fairer, "purer" sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 07:05 PM
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Women are looking for men who add value to their lives. You keep saying this, but not NEEDING to work and luxury is a lot of value, don't you think? You have to provide other things. No, you don't. You are offended that I'm implying some women are transactional. I am arguing about men's fear, and plenty of people got married for purely financial reasons. True attraction cannot be bargained for, and some women use their attraction for an unattractive man's money. Lots of men abhor that idea. TDLR…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 06:59 PM
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Of course, they lose money, but they are supplemented by the state or garnished wages of their ex-husband. The woman is not going to be able to maintain her pre-divorce financial situation. You are pointing this out, but it does not change whether or not men's fear of being a "beta-bucks" is valid. If anything, it validates it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 06:47 PM
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Women don't need men's funds, We pay our bills. Did I say they NEED the money? Or was I saying they WANT the money? Also, this isn't an all-inclusive argument. We are talking about men's fear of being used as an ATM. Stop getting offended and stay on track to understand why men fear it. this isn't 1950 You are right, women no longer need men to make money. That means attraction is now more important compared to financial stability. Women want the freedom to work; they do not want to HAVE to work…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 06:23 PM
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Women rarely settle as much as men. Incorrect, they settle more than men. Most men in history don't procreate; most women do. Men aren't even ABLE to settle because they can't find a mate to settle with. If a women doesn't like a guy she would rather not be in a relationship and that's why women initiate divorces while men would rather just settle. Who is more likely to get more sexual advances after a divorce? A woman. Who is more likely to get monetary funding and increase their net worth afte…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:12 PM
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Wrong. People treat women better because they are considered frailer. Sometimes, to the point that they are grouped with children in frailty. Remember the Titanic, who got off first? Children and WOMEN. If women weren't treated like they're treated now, accidental pregnancies would happen way, way more and would be way more devastating. LOL. What? If I treat a woman meanly, will she get pregnant? I think we found the cure to the falling birth rate! /s On a serious note, individual women are terr…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 03:50 PM
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Only reason why women need that "fragile person" societal treatment anyway is cause most of them aren't infertile. So you are talking about pregnancy? Which women only go through 1-3 times a lifetime that spans 9 months on average? At least periods happen multiple times a month and have a lasting effect for a prolonged time. Pregnancy is not the reason non-pregnant women get treated better than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 03:11 PM
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No matter how much meditation you do you won't be able to flex your fucking uterus like a muscle, Men can't control their testosterone either. Testosterone makes them impulsive and more likely to exacerbate anti-social behavior. When women are on their period, they are just as accountable as men with fluctuating testosterone levels. The modern zeitgeist is that women are just as or better at emotional capability than men. You are doing your best to keep women not accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 02:51 PM
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Being weaker is an inconvenient but it's not life defining. An inconvenience that is supplemented by what gender? How many women go into construction or labor-intensive work? When you need a building, who builds? When you need to work longer hours, who does it and why? When your boss (woman/man) has a gutter task, which gender is going likely to be picked? Being weaker and having less strength capability is life-defining, especially in a society where chivalry is touted in a supposed "equal" soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 02:29 PM
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Men aren't thinking of the negatives. They think that they would be a better woman than the average woman. It isn't masochistic because they think that if they were born a woman, they wouldn't make the same mistakes. It's like dudes who criticize NBA players in an emotional rant, but can't bring themselves to do 1/10th the effort the worst NBA player puts in. Women do the same thing. They think that because men live in a "male-dominated" society that all men just need to put a little effort and …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 02:03 PM
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hunted down to be exterminated. Could you calm down for a second? You are not being hunted down; you are being inconvenienced by mass attention. It is a valid critique of general man-to-women courting. Most men don't want a "corpse"; they ideally would like someone who loves them for their inherent selves. Ironically, they see physical attraction as inherent value when it's not. (This also goes for women, btw) Men are jealous of women, precisely because they are men. They, like most people, don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 01:33 PM
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This is BS. Everyone has a bias and a motive for external validation. Even those who purposely look like shit do so because they want not to be looked in a critical manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 11:10 PM
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lol this is a crazy funny thread
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 11:06 PM
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But it isn't the REALITY. The reality is, they don't NEED to grow up. They just need to vote against your interest, and the world goes nowhere without physical labor (military and infrastructure). This can very quickly turn into women being second-class citizens.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 11:05 PM
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Yup. If you use men's fear as the default, it would be kind of disingenuous. Statistics are the only unbiased metric.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 08:22 PM
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I think it is a matter of testosterone and amygdala differences between the genders. The disparity of violence and fear is probably because men are full of testosterone. Men are not only more aggressive but also more confident/lack impulse control (they aren't thinking with depth). In particular, testosterone appears to increase risk-tolerance, while simultaneously reducing non-planning impulsive choice measured by delay- discounting. However, there was no effect on motor impulsivity. Testostero…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 08:15 PM
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men say that danger is made up, women too scared, and at the same time they say that men are in danger because they will be likely a victims of violent crimes. Men are not saying danger is made up; we are saying we view women's perception of their danger as skewed. Wouldn't the bigger question be why do women perceive danger more than men? Or why do men downplay their chances of a violent encounter?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 07:22 PM
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it's better women don't choose at all. And that is a valid choice. No one is entitled to a partner; if you think it is not worth it, go live your life single. What does dating risks do in the place? Plenty of people want a romantic connection, but I will not force anyone into a relationship. I do think you are not even taking into account the people who want a family or a lover, and what it means to them. Some of them see it as a life milestone. victim blaming that occurs saying "choose better" …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:52 PM
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So make up your mind, it’s either dangerous, or not at all, but can’t be both at the same time for your benefit. Still doesn't change the fact that safety is a concern, i can just ignore it. Wait, are you literally arguing that men are saying dating is both >0% and 0% dangerous? If so, that is bad faith; there is no loud voice saying going out with a stranger (more than likely it is someone you know) is 0% dangerous. They illustrate that you're dismissive. You want me to accept women's perceptio…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:08 PM
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It is a factor, no matter who is dating, though? Either way, you have to be an active participant in your safety. Who else is going to do it? You are trying to argue with reality; you will never be 100% safe from violence. Men can’t say that women are wrong for worrying about their safety and at the same time that it’s dangerous for them. I can both say "I think you are being too paranoid" and say "Men are more likely to be victimized". It just illustrates "Hey, look at me, I'm pretty calm, righ…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 03:11 PM
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There’s alot to say on this topic but the biggest one is about male sexuality, I'm going to focus on this as well. If you dont like how feminists see male sexuality as disgusting and degrading Modern feminist viewpoints on male sexuality are kind of irrelevant. People know not to abuse their SO, but they simply choose to. Women love to talk about their "crushes", and they are exactly the same. They love to see them half-naked as well. If you like how your girl looks and she likes that you like i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 02:54 PM
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So make up your mind, it’s either dangerous, or not at all, but can’t be both at the same time for your benefit. This is pretty disingenuous framing. Driving a car is dangerous, but that doesn't mean that you shouldn't drive a car. Everything has risk; it is up to you to decide the magnitude of the risk. Just acknowledge the risk, because it's not going to go completely away, and if you truly care, try to minimize risk. In this case, go to public dates, carry around self-defense tools, vet your …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 01:57 PM
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