ExceptionToTheRule Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
0	[Meta] Is women not getting punished due to sexism against women?		ExceptionToTheRule	/r/PussyPass	25/08/14 05:56 PM

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1	[Meta] Is women not getting punished due to sexism against women? Totally. Absolutely agree, for that one person or that small group of people that get that. But for society at large and for women as a whole its ultimately harmful. I...feel like we're getting close to agreeing on this, am I off base?	/r/PussyPass	28/08/14 10:47 PM
1	[Meta] Is women not getting punished due to sexism against women? Thats what I'm saying, its not the best thing ever and has bigger, more widespread, consequences that people probably don't consider.	/r/PussyPass	28/08/14 04:14 PM
1	[Meta] Is women not getting punished due to sexism against women? Oh yeah I totally agree.	/r/PussyPass	27/08/14 05:14 PM
0	[Meta] Is women not getting punished due to sexism against women? For example: If a man rapes a woman, then he is a victim of discrimination, because if he was not treated as a man and potential rapist then he would not have thought of raping her. The blame for him raping someone is hence on the women who treated him as someone who might rape someone because they conditioned him into seeing himself in that role. For example, if the woman was walking alone at night and saw him stalking her and therefore started walking faster, she treated him in a sexist way as…	/r/PussyPass	27/08/14 04:30 PM
1	[Meta] Is women not getting punished due to sexism against women? wat.	/r/PussyPass	27/08/14 04:25 PM
2	[Meta] Is women not getting punished due to sexism against women? What would you prefer - waste away 10 extra years of your life in prison, or, being subject to certain stereotypical expectations making some things harder and other things easier? You can check your brainwashing level by how much time you take to think about that. Listen I'm not saying that in this case that its the WORST THING EVER that women don't get prison sentences, all I'm saying is that this comes form a place of sexism and thats inherently bad.	/r/PussyPass	27/08/14 04:25 PM
1	[Meta] Is women not getting punished due to sexism against women? You think so? I dunno, I would assume more women are campaigning for womens rights, but hey, you could definitely be right, I haven't seen any numbers on it so I'm really just guessing.	/r/PussyPass	27/08/14 04:24 PM
1	[Meta] Is women not getting punished due to sexism against women? You and the other feminists like you are fucked in the head. Please ditch your victim complex and try to care about somebody other than yourself for once. This is just uncalled for and simply incorrect you don't know who I am, especially not from some random online discussion.	/r/PussyPass	27/08/14 04:23 PM
0	[Meta] Is women not getting punished due to sexism against women? So, you don't have an answer. Ok. Thanks. It wasn't a strawman by the way.	/r/PussyPass	27/08/14 04:09 AM
1	[Meta] Is women not getting punished due to sexism against women? Uh, no I don't. I'm IN a STEM field.	/r/PussyPass	27/08/14 04:08 AM
0	[Meta] Is women not getting punished due to sexism against women? So just to make sure I understand, You're saying that out of a population of 9 billion, the reason by a very statistically significant portion of society, who almost all happen to be Black women or otherwise minorities, don't get jobs like white men do is because they don't try hard enough? Come on dude. Is this for real your reasoning? If thats the case then its not just about culture, because this goes beyond culture, or background, or nation or anything. This has to do with minorities specifi…	/r/PussyPass	27/08/14 02:58 AM
0	[Meta] Is women not getting punished due to sexism against women? I never said "inherently" nor did I mention anything about genetics. What a wonderful strawman you threw on the fire. It was a question. There was no strawman because it wasn't a statement. If you don't believe they are genetically predisposed to certain jobs, then why do we still see that? Are you seriously comparing Oprah Winfrey's success to the plight of the Jews? I'm actually deconstructing the belief you have that because something is true by and large that it is always absolutely true, li…	/r/PussyPass	27/08/14 12:52 AM
1	[Meta] Is women not getting punished due to sexism against women? ..are you reading what I'm reading? According to research by Penn Schoen and Berland (PSB), nearly two-thirds (63 percent) of teens have never considered a career in engineering. In another research study by Girl Scouts of America, only 13% of female teens say a STEM (science, technology, engineering, and mathematics) related career would be their first choice. Why? It turns out Klawe was on to something. From the research results, PSB found that 74% of teens that considered engineering did so o…	/r/PussyPass	26/08/14 05:00 PM
1	[Meta] Is women not getting punished due to sexism against women? All of these issues have the same answer. Women don't put in as much effort as men. This is why the wage gape is an absolute, verifiable myth. When push comes to shove, the overwhelming majority of women are not as willing to take on dangerous jobs, they are not as willing to take big career risks, they are not as willing to work long hours, nor are they as willing to go into math dominated fields such as finance and engineering. What? Is this for real? Do you think that women are inherently, as…	/r/PussyPass	26/08/14 04:55 PM
3	Reaction to Female-on-Male abuse in public I'm sorry I'm not prepared to argue with someone who insults me.	/r/PussyPass	26/08/14 04:48 PM
-3	[Meta] Is women not getting punished due to sexism against women? To claim that "men are the ones in power" is not only laughably false in the modern era, it denigrates and mocks the women who have worked hard and earned their success. Equal numbers has nothing to do with equal effort. Women who put forth the effort are certainly able to succeed in the modern world. If women put in equal effort, then why do we not see an equal number of women represented as men are? Why is there SUCH a huge different in numbers? If women have put in equal effort but in fact no…	/r/PussyPass	26/08/14 06:47 AM
1	[Meta] Is women not getting punished due to sexism against women? Yes I do. I linked you to an article a few comments up.	/r/PussyPass	26/08/14 06:40 AM
-2	[Meta] Is women not getting punished due to sexism against women? Because they don't chose to go into those industries. But why? Why on a global scale do women not choose to go into those industries? Are they genetically pre-disposed not to? Or is there another cause? Is anyone stopping women from getting jobs in an industry simply because they are women". I would say yes. And if the problem is women believing society will not like them pursuing a career, then maybe they need to tell society to get fucked and do it anyway? I mean thats a nice thought but peer …	/r/PussyPass	26/08/14 06:08 AM
0	[Meta] Is women not getting punished due to sexism against women? I'm not sure you understand patriarchy. Its just the idea that men are the ones in power, and you can see that pretty plainly, most of our CEO's are male, movie stars are male, TV hosts are male, Etc etc.	/r/PussyPass	26/08/14 06:06 AM
1	[Meta] Is women not getting punished due to sexism against women? Females can be sexist too. Just because they're female doesn't mean they aren't subject to the same societal perceptions and ideals as the rest of us. I can only speak to what I believe in, which is what 1st wave and 2nd wave and most of 3rd wave feminism believe in, and thats equality.	/r/PussyPass	26/08/14 12:35 AM
0	[Meta] Is women not getting punished due to sexism against women? Sexism hurts everyone :(	/r/PussyPass	25/08/14 10:47 PM
1	[Meta] Is women not getting punished due to sexism against women? "There is sexism present". Where is the evidence for this supposed discrimination? There isnt any statistical evidence as when you factor to compare apples to apples, women make more. "Would a women go into a boys club"(paraphrasing) why yes women who do make more money then me for the same job in my industry. Then why are women still under represented in the IT industry? In the construction industry? There are many many industries that women are under represented and this is due to sexism. This…	/r/PussyPass	25/08/14 10:42 PM
1	[Meta] Is women not getting punished due to sexism against women? Same income". Statements like this cause people to ignore your actually good main point. Women make more for the same job when they have equivalent education and experience. The 0.70$ per 1.00$, or whatever latest statistic is does not take into account that women on average work less hours, take more time off from work, have shorter continuous employment. To claim women make less for the same job is to claim businesses ignore the laws of supply and demand and pay 30% more just to higher a man w…	/r/PussyPass	25/08/14 10:14 PM
0	[Meta] Is women not getting punished due to sexism against women? How does it do more harm than good in the long term. Please explain this position I don't understand how that could be. You don't get taken seriously at work, you don't get the promotion, friends don't listen to your opinion. I mean literally any time that someones judgement of you is taken into account, the societal perception of gender comes into play. This can effect your ability to get a house, win a court case, get a job, etc. So just those perceptions can have a huge impact in your life, e…	/r/PussyPass	25/08/14 10:08 PM
1	[Meta] Is women not getting punished due to sexism against women? I don't think its about punishing women more, but not NOT punishing them because of their gender, It would be like not spanking your daughter but spanking your son because guys can take it and are tougher. Its silly and sexist.	/r/PussyPass	25/08/14 10:05 PM
1	[Meta] Is women not getting punished due to sexism against women? Absolutely, I totally agree. What about men being taken more seriously? It seems like a benefit in the short term, but in the long term its because men are considered "strong" and "leaders" even when some men don't want to be.	/r/PussyPass	25/08/14 09:15 PM
0	[Meta] Is women not getting punished due to sexism against women? I think the issue that a lot of people are having here with what you are saying is that you are couching one way in which women are highly privileged as somehow being detrimental to them. I mean you're taking something that is good for them in the short run, not going to jail, and not looking at the long term harm based in the societal perceptions of what women can and should do. I would say, yes its nice for women that they don't go to jail or whatever, but I think that the fact that this is du…	/r/PussyPass	25/08/14 08:44 PM
-3	[Meta] Is women not getting punished due to sexism against women? I think everyone is hurt by sexism, men and women, so in that way we're all victims I suppose?	/r/PussyPass	25/08/14 07:57 PM
1	[Meta] Is women not getting punished due to sexism against women? Exactly and that perception leads to shorter prisons sentences which is just as much bullshit as not getting a promotion because they're seen as less responsible.	/r/PussyPass	25/08/14 07:28 PM
1	[Meta] Is women not getting punished due to sexism against women? I'm not sure what you're talking about but thats really not my position.	/r/PussyPass	25/08/14 07:28 PM
2	[Meta] Is women not getting punished due to sexism against women? I think its important to care if we want to deconstruct this way of thinking.	/r/PussyPass	25/08/14 06:58 PM
2	[Meta] Is women not getting punished due to sexism against women? However, feminism has a very vested interest in creating a system where women are equals whenever it is convenient, and not equals when it's not. I mean, thats not something I've ever seen and in the feminist circles that I'm in I don't know anyone who would agree with that. Why is the man the rapist and the woman the victim when two drunk people have sex? Because a man MUST be the BRUTE who raped her and a woman is just completely helpless /s Why did the Supreme Court rule that if two underage …	/r/PussyPass	25/08/14 06:57 PM
2	[Meta] Is women not getting punished due to sexism against women? Unfortunately, thats sexism in their favor, traditionally sexism is something negative and preferential treatment in a society of instant gratitude is something people will whine and bitch to keep I don't agree with that. I think that sexism is just a judgement or action based solely on someones gender and nothing else and although it looks positive on the short term, on the long term it hurts everyone, men and women. I really wish women got the same prisons sentences as men. They're both adults…	/r/PussyPass	25/08/14 06:52 PM
-2	[Meta] Is women not getting punished due to sexism against women? When feminism distances itself from patriarchy theory and the oppressor/oppressed dynamic, and acknowledges that traditional gender roles are a double edged sword for both genders, I might be willing to join the cause. When it campaigns for women taking more responsibility as much as it campaigns for more privileges and hand outs (i.e. birth control should be free) I might be willing to join. I think in large part the things this subreddit discusses is due to that patriarchy, that isn't to say t…	/r/PussyPass	25/08/14 06:50 PM
-3	[Meta] Is women not getting punished due to sexism against women? Excellent post. Next time I see a young black man get sent to prison for life on trumped up charges, I'll weep for the unlucky women who are discriminated against because they uh... are unable to enjoy the privilege of longer prison sentences. Whoa, I'm sorry I didn't mean to look down on the plight of other people because whats happening to them is definitely not only sexist but racist. I just wanted to point out that women are not the enemy here and that its societal perceptions of gender and …	/r/PussyPass	25/08/14 06:43 PM
-1	[Meta] Is women not getting punished due to sexism against women? I do try to tell that to everyone who will listen, just like I'm doing here.	/r/PussyPass	25/08/14 06:41 PM
3	Reaction to Female-on-Male abuse in public Totally agree. Women don't need protecting, they're full grown adults and hitting is wrong no matter who is doing it.	/r/PussyPass	25/08/14 06:39 PM
8	Reaction to Female-on-Male abuse in public Doesn't matter. Its still violence. The idea that women "aren't posing a threat" is also pretty sexist.	/r/PussyPass	25/08/14 06:38 PM
-2	[Meta] Is women not getting punished due to sexism against women? I think its fucked up that women are treated a certain way because of their gender, thats the very definition of sexism, and I think further that the things they get from the "pussy pass" although they may seem positive on the surface, they actually harm women by making them seem to society as a whole as less capable, responsible or reasonable people. They need to be protected and can't handle their own decisions and responsibilities.	/r/PussyPass	25/08/14 06:37 PM
-3	[Meta] Is women not getting punished due to sexism against women? It's sexism in favour of women. Preferential treatment. Less accountability. Whims catered to. I don't agree, as a woman I don't want to be looked down on, treated like I need protected or patronized, I think that actively harms me in other areas of my life.	/r/PussyPass	25/08/14 06:35 PM
7	Men, stop doing this to yourselves... Yeah its really shitty how any weakness or emotion is seen as feminine and demasculating and that its somehow bad for it to be that way. GUYS: Its ok to be feminine! I just don't understand why some men INSIST that any other man who doesn't work out all the time and eat tacks for breakfast isn't a real man! All men are real..	/r/MensRights	09/04/13 04:14 AM
6	Men, stop doing this to yourselves... because not being able to handle your own shit means you're weak, and you're less of a man, you're more like a woman who needs protecting.	/r/MensRights	08/04/13 11:58 PM
0	4chan is on the rise with another stunt / OP. I just figured I would post this here as it's relevant. I dunno, why are people fond of calling themselves neo-nazi's?	/r/MensRights	09/02/13 10:01 PM
2	4chan is on the rise with another stunt / OP. I just figured I would post this here as it's relevant. If you think calling yourself a feminist is something most people think of positively, you've got another thing coming.	/r/MensRights	09/02/13 06:44 PM
1	4chan is on the rise with another stunt / OP. I just figured I would post this here as it's relevant. Feminism has broken down a lot of roles, as far as roles for what women can do, and even what men can do, although I'll agree in probably a smaller way, in much the same way as the LGBT community has done a lot for Gay and Lesbians, but not for Transgender people. Not an excuse, just an observation, they're both equally shitty. What you've seen in feminism is trying to make it socially acceptable to be outside your 'gender role' and females for the most part are "allowed" to do that. I would lik…	/r/MensRights	09/02/13 05:24 AM
1	4chan is on the rise with another stunt / OP. I just figured I would post this here as it's relevant. I don't see a problem here. Feminism argues in favor of men being able to do things like play with dolls and do what are considered stereotypically feminine things, just as it allows women to do stereotypical masculine things. I find the argument that because women can do masculine things and men can't do feminine things (at least in societies view) that feminism is a failed movement. It seems pretty obvious to me that being masculine is WAY more valued in society, that acting masculine and bein…	/r/MensRights	09/02/13 05:07 AM
-1	4chan is on the rise with another stunt / OP. I just figured I would post this here as it's relevant. So...Men aren't looked down for not being stereotypically masculine? For doing things that are seen as feminine?	/r/MensRights	09/02/13 12:24 AM
-22	4chan is on the rise with another stunt / OP. I just figured I would post this here as it's relevant. Its funny because feminism actually fights for men as well..	/r/MensRights	08/02/13 08:04 PM
2	Objectification at the Olympics That's something I can agree with, but from my personal experience with feminists they seem to say one thing and do another. That's what feminists say they believe, but they only ever seem to decry unequal treatment if it disadvantages women. They strongly support getting women into traditionally male-orientated areas (e.g. STEM), without simultaneously setting up the necessary structures to allow men to enter fields that they are currently facing difficulties entering (e.g. care and pre-college…	/r/MensRights	15/08/12 11:50 PM
3	Objectification at the Olympics The fundamental Axiom is feminism is that men and women should be treated no differently and I believe the schools in sweden have stopped using them to cater to other gender identities. That isn't to say there is no difference, but its like two over lapping bell curve, sure men trend towards one thing and women another, but there are men and women at both ends of the spectrum, you shouldn't try to place people in a box like that, just let them do whatever they're going to do and discover what th…	/r/MensRights	15/08/12 10:09 PM
13	Objectification at the Olympics thats why we have black, asian, and normal. Right? Oh wait, asian is the majority. You get the idea. But yes, I'm a feminist and a transsexual and so is my boyfriend.	/r/MensRights	14/08/12 12:45 AM
9	Dear MensRights Seriously? That can't be true. Women aren't all the same and they don't believe that men are just rapists waiting to happen	/r/MensRights	17/01/12 04:14 PM
-4	The truth about women abusing men - YouTube Its called sarcasm yo.	/r/MensRights	30/12/11 09:48 AM
0	The truth about women abusing men - YouTube yes I said this doesn't prove anything and you said that I should disprove it by running my own experiment, which is a bit silly.	/r/MensRights	30/12/11 07:31 AM
0	The truth about women abusing men - YouTube The point I was trying to make is that you can't make an outrageous claim and then ask me to disprove it. If you want me to believe what you're saying, back it up.	/r/MensRights	30/12/11 06:45 AM
-3	The truth about women abusing men - YouTube Only if you're willing to prove to me that god exists.	/r/MensRights	30/12/11 05:45 AM
-2	The truth about women abusing men - YouTube So where is the transcript? Are you sure that wasn't just editting?	/r/MensRights	30/12/11 05:20 AM
-5	The truth about women abusing men - YouTube And do we know exactly what the actors were told to say? Another control that could effect the outcome of the persons reactions.	/r/MensRights	30/12/11 04:26 AM
0	The truth about women abusing men - YouTube You see how I used a question mark? That means it was a question. Ok, you're making a claim, that in society if a woman is seeing verbally and phsyically abusing a woman that people won't react and be on the womans side. I'd like to see empirical evidence to support this, Studies from Scientific journals. I mean this is kind of a circle jerk comment. "Yeah you may be right that this isn't completely proven but it would be if only society would fund studies like this, darn misandryists!"	/r/MensRights	30/12/11 04:18 AM
-3	The truth about women abusing men - YouTube yeah good for you :)	/r/MensRights	30/12/11 04:09 AM
-6	The truth about women abusing men - YouTube I was clarifying your position. This wasn't an experiment, it was a TV show, it wasn't published in a peer reviewed study, it was a TV show. And I am not justifying this behavior, i'm just saying that you cannot say from this one video that society as a whole condones this behavior from women.	/r/MensRights	30/12/11 04:08 AM
-2	The truth about women abusing men - YouTube Are you suggesting that women are phsyically stronger then men on a statistical basis?	/r/MensRights	30/12/11 03:53 AM
-2	The truth about women abusing men - YouTube You're going to automatically assume the person with more power is more dangerous. If you see someone pointing a gun at someone else, your instinct is to protect the person being threatened by the gun, even though he could have been trying to rob the person with the gun. This is all about a position of power that men hold over women, physically if nothing else.	/r/MensRights	30/12/11 03:35 AM
-6	The truth about women abusing men - YouTube Holy shit, 6 hours? Well study over, case closed. That solves it. I mean, sure some studies go on for ya know, 10 years, but whatever, this is totally right. A big sample size of people is silly because if you've gotten 10 people you've gotten a basic cross section of humanity. Or ya know, they were out to prove a point, and they proved it to those who wanted their ideas validated.	/r/MensRights	30/12/11 03:31 AM
-3	The truth about women abusing men - YouTube No it shows that those people in that enviornment, on that specific day, react to those specific people in a certain way. You can not extrapolate that people "generally" react differently from a 3 minute video, thats we like to call, retarded.	/r/MensRights	30/12/11 03:29 AM
-4	The truth about women abusing men - YouTube This was a video made with a purpose to show a specific view point and thats what its doing, and if you claim it as pure truth you look like an idiot.	/r/MensRights	30/12/11 03:20 AM
-8	The truth about women abusing men - YouTube Yeah one man and one woman, one fight, on one day, in one location. Sounds very scientifically sound. Maybe a bigger man, or a bigger woman, or a different city, or a different time or year. There are MANY enivornmental factors not accounted for. Its not funny. Abuse is never funny. Towards men or women. Its not a non-sequitur. Just because you see people ignoring a fight between two people doesn't mean that ALL people ignore ALL fights. Or just because you see 10 people ignore a fight between a…	/r/MensRights	30/12/11 03:19 AM
-4	The truth about women abusing men - YouTube Just because you see people ignoring a fight between two people doesn't mean that ALL people ignore ALL fights.	/r/MensRights	30/12/11 03:16 AM
-7	The truth about women abusing men - YouTube if this was a scientific study and not some random thing from ABC, I would probably agree. This is all about perceived threat, women are weaker then men, phsyically, they can't do as much damage as easily. If you saw a small man berating a big woman you'd never see anyone stop. Also, Scientifically corralation doesn't equal causation.	/r/MensRights	30/12/11 01:31 AM
-1	Tired of hearing that gender is a social construct? For good reason.	/r/MensRights	25/12/11 08:23 PM
0	Tired of hearing that gender is a social construct? Ahhaha you really are an idiot. I thought at first all this talk of scientific theory and stuff was real, but it was really all just a facade. Hormones have no bearing on sexuality. Prove me wrong. Give me one study that proves otherwise. I am someone who is on hormone replacement therapy and if you had done your homework you would understand that not only does it NOT change sexuality, as gasp sexuality and gender are separate So again I ask, One study that says that hormone levels dictate sexua…	/r/MensRights	25/12/11 08:01 PM
8	Tired of hearing that gender is a social construct? Wow you really are kind of a douche. I asked a simple question and you respond with vitrol and hate, just relax for a minute and stop insulting me long enough to explain your position.	/r/MensRights	25/12/11 07:02 PM
5	Tired of hearing that gender is a social construct? So cultures around the world having different social norms for men and woman are because...?	/r/MensRights	25/12/11 06:38 PM