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Inflated sense of self only works if you're in a bubble where your beliefs are sheltered by the group, or if you have the skills for it to actually be justifiable. Most people with too big egos who have no accolades to back it up often end up savagely beaten down by life, rightfully so.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/26 10:09 PM
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This is always such a fucking weird complex to have. I believe in equality. I believe that everyone deserves the same rights. But if we're talking about 'superiority' then surely like, the ability to dominate others has to be accounted for? Things like body strength, etc. Note, I don't think greater physical strength actually makes someone inherently 'superior', but I'm just saying it'd be illogical to claim superiority when the sexes are mentally equal but men are physically more able, given th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/26 10:07 PM
2

Yes, that's correct.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/26 11:51 PM
19

Yeah, literally just go outside and start talking to women.
/r/seduction25/06/26 07:31 PM
5

This is exactly my point. This is why we don't do retributive killings for murder. We don't go "he murdered your wife, ok, now you can murder his family members in perpetuity."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/26 08:53 AM
4

It's not even "too cumbersome". It's not a matter of how much work we put into it. If it was worthwhile I'd be a great advocate of doing it anyway. It's the fact that the entire exercise is inherently a flawed premise due to the people advocating for it assuming that the calculus will never change, and that you can't compare oppression in the way described. It's a completely meaningless exercise.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/26 08:51 AM
19

Same as an Asian guy. You just get called an incel/weirdo/another ad-hominem if you point it out.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/26 12:01 AM
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Because a) It becomes an infinite matrix of combinations of who has what place in the hierarchy of marginalization. Where do I, an minority man who has been discriminated against, rank up against a white woman? What about me versus another minority man? These judgement calls rely on quantifying morality relying on bulk generalisations when they ignore important non-gender-race vectors such as wealth and social class. "Net" oppression is a fucking stupid metric because materially, a rich black wo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/26 12:00 AM
83

Exactly lol. If your statement sounds horrible when you change race/gender, then it's not on
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/26 06:49 PM
53

"He's one of the good ones" Wow, sounds like white people during Jim Crow.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/26 06:49 PM
4

Because you can't marry rich? Bro get a grip
/r/seduction22/06/26 09:49 PM
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It's literally unicorn territory. Even if you hang about entrepreneur circles, most women there are in relationships. The only area where that might be likely would be heiresses/some sort of old money, in which case, pray that she's also into brokies rather than men from the same old money class
/r/seduction22/06/26 08:41 AM
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Yeah. OTOH a lot of guys aren't socially calibrated and go too hard in pushing for a convo, but from what OP described, he was respectful and backed off the moment she expressed disinterest. This is literally just her being weird and pissy.
/r/seduction21/06/26 12:47 AM
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Lol fair. Probably will never go, but good to know I guess.
/r/seduction19/06/26 11:11 PM
4

What if you're Chinese lol
/r/seduction19/06/26 09:50 AM
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wrong guy?
/r/seduction15/06/26 06:44 PM
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Yeah anyone saying 'men aren't needed' or 'women aren't needed' is just a brainrotted misanthrope. Men need women and women need men. It's almost like the species evolved both genders rather than just one. If even 30% of men or women walk away from society then it collapses because so many critical sectors are dominated by one gender or the other. It's a toxic mindset that reduces people into utility whether it be for resources or sex.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/26 06:46 PM
1

Rationality Rules has a very good breakdown of the documentary. The documentary is great on exposing how clownish and internally inconsistent the Manosphere actually is, but lacks the follow through on *why* men and boys go into the pipeline. It gets so close with the segments where some of the guys talk about their backstories, but it lacks follow through.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/26 01:49 PM
13

Yeah dunno why people are coping in the comments about orbiters and how good women are single for very very short windows. I know women who by any definition are pretty good catches (good looks, good jobs, mentally sound).
/r/seduction28/05/26 04:34 PM
1

Fair. Yes we can I suppose
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/26 02:34 PM
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I think hardcore "feminists" are just in a post-cope world where they're starting to realise that absolutely no one, not other women, not men, not the right, and certainly not even all of the left like them. From my talking with feminists, they've more or less given up on serious philosophy/political theory and started degenerating into appeal to emotion at least on a grassroots level. I fully concede that high level feminist thinkers may have consist and valid world views, even if I may or may …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/26 05:58 PM
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Yeah same. I was crashing out over my ex who I broke up with like a month before and she (new girl) deserved full attention while I mostly wanted a physical relationship, so I broke it off sooner rather than later.
/r/seduction25/05/26 03:28 PM
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Any empowerment movement that is dependent on putting another group down based on immutable characteristics is inherently flawed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/26 03:20 PM
2

I've only been able to attract good girls. I've never been with a bad girl. One of my ex'es was literally a virgin who wanted to give me her virginity if we continued dating for a bit but I didn't want to handhold someone through their first proper relationship. I'm tired boss.
/r/seduction25/05/26 01:14 PM
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No, I do not agree. You went back and edited in auti-alli after I had already commented in an attempt to mislead. You don't even define what auti-alli is despite it not being a common term. That is a sign of bad faith when discussing a subject. I have never encountered incel shit that wasnt misogynistic hate cult stuff. But then again, Ive never particularly gone looking. I will admit that much. Regardless, its famous for the hate cult and thats what it means to me. Perhaps I am wrong, but... we…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/26 01:14 PM
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Or your writing is just incoherent. I use the word for those who self describe it. The hate cult. Nobody else wants to bear the title from my understanding. Your understanding is flawed. There's plenty of research showing that most self-identified incels are just depressed and self-identify with the label due to the status of their being, rather than wanting to be named an incel or because they hold misogynistic attitudes. https://www.swansea.ac.uk/press-office/news-events/news/2025/05/major-new…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/26 12:55 PM
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non-identity politics is a portmanteau, in opposition to identity politics. Identity politics is politics based on an identity usually (but technically not limited to) immutable characteristics such as gender/race/orientation. In the West, identity politics have been associated with both the left and right, and is widely seen as antithetical to the idea of mainstream civic nationalism that transcends race/sex/religion that arose after the 1970s. In the context of the Western left specifically, t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/26 12:45 PM
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That's a matter of definition. Incel is a superfluous concept in popular discourse because no one can agree whether we should use the popular definition (based on attitude) or the original etymological definition (based on status). Also I didn't go on that sub, you're the only one who brought it up. Kind of weird for you to focus on that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/26 11:45 AM
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What is your point? That incels exist? How does that relate in any shape or form to this conversation?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/26 11:39 AM
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Exactly. This is the fundamental problem of modern leftist/liberal politics whatever you want to call it. They're all for repression, but don't let it be them that has to do the work of defending themselves/maintaining essential services etc. Let the acceptable underclass (men who disagree with us) obey us. I've been thinking about this a lot recently. This is exactly why so many leftist movements utterly fail. For those who are part of the apparatus of state force (e.g. the military, police), r…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/26 11:38 AM
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Yup. I'm convinced there is no political dialogue to be had with these people. Just like there can be no dialogue to be had with white ethnonationalists as a POC, there is no meaningful dialogue to be had with people like this when their entire worldview is predicated on the fact that an immutable characteristic is a fundamental sin.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/26 11:26 AM
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I mean, progressive circles being performative are a known thing tbh. Look at how ruthlessly they attack any POC/sexual minority the moment their views deviate from the accepted 'truth'. This is why non-identity politics leftists (like most people in this sub) need to wrestle control of the narrative from them. We can't let them be the sole representative of the left in our countries.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/26 11:24 AM
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It's a stupid, stupid conflation that doesn't even make sense when the slightest scrutiny is applied. The vast majority of violence committed by men against women are committed by people close to them, who by definition are not lonely BECAUSE THEY HAVE THOSE PRE-EXISTING CONNECTIONS. "Lonely men" are just the accepted punching bag to say 'haha man bad' because these people are too spineless to realise they are in fact, part of the problem by continuing to associate with and enable these bad men …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/26 11:22 AM
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Autism is a massive spectrum, speaking as a AuDHD guy. Just because I can hack certain things doesn't mean others are able to. That's why autism ranges from high functioning (where you have the mental fortitude and ability to basically mask near-perfectly) to completely non-functional. This sort of stuff is just gross and inconsistent. Men are advantaged no matter what as a characteristic, but somehow, this (il)logic doesn't apply to women. You never see these people call out white women are bei…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/26 11:19 AM
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Exactly. All the fucking nonces out in force this thread.
/r/seduction19/05/26 04:07 PM
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I love how you're not even denying you'd go lower than the age of consent if you could.
/r/seduction19/05/26 04:03 PM
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That's not even fucking true lol. Get me a group of 17 year olds vs 24 year olds and you're a liar if you say there's no difference.
/r/seduction19/05/26 04:02 PM
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Unironically is the correct term here. I pulled plenty of 18-21s... When I was around that age. I don't want to pull 18-21s so there's nothing for me to be jealous of. I'm literally not agreeing with you, you fucking illiterate swine son. I don't need to post a pic. I'm in the top 25% of lifters, let alone some lard ass like you who doesn't even work out. You have a sad life. Age of consent laws are rightly in place because of people like you.
/r/seduction19/05/26 04:01 PM
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Yeah I'm a guy and OP sounds like an immature idiot lol. Yeah man, every 30 year old woman is obese and it's all a psyop. OP is probably projecting. It's always the guys who say "I'm not a gym rat but I'm passable" when they're unironically slobs who look 10 years older than they are.
/r/seduction19/05/26 10:48 AM
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Yeah this is always an utterly braindead talking point. Whatever inherent differences in sex (if they are even big enough to matter materially in a position as leader of state) are subordinate to power structures and foreign policy. E.g. A male Margaret Thatcher would've been as likely to declare war as original Maggie given the circumstances of the Argentinian invasion, and a female Hitler would've started a war regardless of whether she was grooming Evan Braun or not because the Nazi party's i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/05/26 02:47 PM
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Yeah. I think it really needs to be said, but seduction isn't magic. There are absolutely times when a woman (or guy) is absolutely not in the mindset to accepting an approach. You got to read the room.
/r/seduction13/05/26 10:40 PM
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We also frequently hear the claim that women display more “emotional intelligence”, and that they have the “mental burden of being their husbands therapist”. All evidence seems to point to the opposite. There’s this conflation between emotional intelligence, that being control and regulation of your emotions, and simply being able to express emotions. No, you are not more emotionally intelligent because you cry more. Yeah anecdotally, I really agree. This is beyond just partners, but when I talk…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/05/26 02:46 PM
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Same with Zumba. I might have more muscle mass than half the class put together. Doesn't matter bro. I'm fucking clocked out and wheezing after 3 songs while the Zumba girls are dancing circles around me. Unironically great cardio though.
/r/seduction09/05/26 12:03 AM
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Yeah exactly. I'm not one of those crazies who think men should never approach a woman period. If she's signalling she's open to conversation, like in a bar, not in a rush, etc, then it's fair game. Not this 'walk into her path to make her look at you' type shit. That's just genuinely being annoying and weird. The point of interactions like this, whatever you want to call it, are to make sure both parties leave happy. You're not off to a good start if your entire premise is to be a nuisance.
/r/seduction08/05/26 04:46 PM
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Yeah I'm starting to hate the 'approach no matter what' mindset some guys on here are promoting. The goal of skillful approach is to be so natural as to make it seem like your approach wasn't unnatural at all. Guys need to learn how to read the room lol.
/r/seduction08/05/26 12:20 PM
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Yeah, I don't see this as a gotcha. People can't change what they are. How are the feminists spinning this as a victory? That's like us gloating men can travel with less on them because women need to carry menstrual hygiene items.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/26 02:37 PM
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Yeah lol, it's possible.
/r/seduction03/05/26 01:23 AM
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Yeah, we minority men are an inconvenient talking point for feminists because it precludes their whole clear cut hierarchy of oppression.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/26 11:45 AM
4

Drinks, coffee, or a party is better yeah
/r/seduction01/05/26 12:19 PM
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Exactly. I'm not going to waste my energy. I don't want to ruin someone else's night, more importantly, I don't want to ruin MY night doing something I hate because I don't enjoy talking to people who aren't enjoying talking to me.
/r/seduction01/05/26 11:56 AM
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Yeah, this is why men fucking go into the rightoid extremist pipeline. The Right are basically the ONLY game in town telling men that they matter and they're heard, even if their solutions are barbaric, regressive and incoherent. The Left doesn't want to talk to men except to tell us to FUCK OFF in all caps. We (the left) don't even tell them they're heard, let alone offer a good solution. Predominantly Leftist spaces like vegetarian spaces, queer spaces, 'feminist' spaces and the charity sector…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/26 08:02 PM
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The problem is that feminist rhetoric has pretended the world has stood still since the 1970s/1980s/1990s, and grounded their worldviews in the problems that women faced back then, and pretends they are extant and have not changed since.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/26 11:01 AM
3

If 99% of a given group says it's hard, and 1 person says it's easy then I'm going to say the correct reflection for the experience of the majority is the former.
/r/seduction25/04/26 05:29 PM
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Dude, no lol, as someone with a lot of female and male friends. The one out and out incel guy I know? There's like easily 3-4 women that have said shit on the same level as him.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/26 08:41 PM
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Yeah exactly my point. The question is just awkwardly phased. It's like how people talk about 'Incels' without clarifying whether you mean the pop media use of the word (misogynist, ideologically radical), or the dictionary definition (guy who can't have sex despite trying)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/26 06:22 PM
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I'm not talking about what is just, but what is useful for data. I don't think the ambiguity is useful for getting good data.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/26 08:55 AM
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Am I the only one who's not a fan of how the question was phrased? Do you mean 'feminism' as a whole, or are we dividing it into waves as is usually done? I absolutely despise the toxicity of third-wave feminism and the normalisation of misandry, but I think those are major prices to pay that are still worth it in the name of the equality won by earlier waves feminism like the right to vote and egalitarian treatment. I don't think most respondents would make that distinction though, just thinkin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/26 11:48 PM
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Honestly, this maps well to my personal experience as someone with a lot of female friends. Not all of them, but it's a lot of casual misandry being thrown about like 'kill all men', and 'all men are trash'. If you're their friend, 'you're one of the good ones'. It's exactly the same as how racist white folks used to talk about black people.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/26 09:45 PM
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It's also the blatant hypocrisy. If you follow their chain of thought to its logical conclusion, where you apply such standards to any group other than 'men' such as racial or sexual minority groups, you suddenly sound a lot less acceptable because it isn't. It's the exact same logic people use to talk about 'black people' and saying they're justified of being terrified of black people because of a minority of black folks
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/26 08:54 PM
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Yeah I am extremely surprised to hear that Motherless also did snuff and rape, like WTF levels of surprised. I've admittedly been on it a couple of times just from stills being shown in Google images and clicking on them. Thought it was just another porn site.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/26 03:05 PM
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Woah what the fuck? I thought Motherless was just a porn website. Not literally snuff and rape.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/26 03:04 PM
3

Yeah, I've been with British girls as well, but most of them aren't bold in any particular fashion.
/r/seduction13/04/26 06:20 PM
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Is this Yank privilege or something? I live in London and have had a middling time lol.
/r/seduction13/04/26 10:51 AM
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Are you,,, Open mindeu????
/r/seduction13/04/26 10:50 AM
3

Well obviously, but the ratio is what I'm asking about. No one works at a mine site to hook up despite there being the occasional woman.
/r/seduction06/04/26 10:29 PM
2

Wait is this true? Aren't most warehouses mostly men though?
/r/seduction06/04/26 04:16 PM
6

Yeah this has been my experience as someone who both hangs around the fanfiction writing crowd (nerdy sub-culture) and out with the uber social crowd. These are distinct groups with at best some overlap in what their preferences are
/r/seduction03/04/26 09:39 PM
1

What happens in S Florida?
/r/seduction30/03/26 11:38 AM
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Sure bud, and we were supposed to know this how from your post? Lol, you're sure vexed for someone talking about how none of this is personal.
/r/seduction29/03/26 01:42 PM
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Brokie.
/r/seduction29/03/26 01:40 PM
2

This so much lol. High value guys value time more than anything. If dinner is what works, then dinner it is. They don't make room in their day just to have a coffee date instead because they're usually doing shit worth a damn during that time. It's the brokies who have nothing else going on. The 'alpha male' idea of making a woman 'prove' she's worth X amount just shows these guys are beggars by another name. Real men have excess and show value through that, rather than spending tons of time thi…
/r/seduction29/03/26 01:38 PM
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Yeah what? 15 minutes is normal, 30 minutes is too much. 1 hour is just fucking asking to be mad and shows you don't have a life or self respect.
/r/seduction29/03/26 11:25 AM
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Yeah goes without saying haha. Be kind to children when you bump into them, but don't go around initiating convos lol
/r/seduction22/03/26 06:50 PM
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Literally start talking to anyone. Old people, young kids, meth heads, university professors. OK maybe not the penultimate one, but that's the idea. Make pretty girls just another type of people you talk to instead of this special thing that you need to obsess over
/r/seduction20/03/26 02:07 PM
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Like damn bro. Shittttt
/r/seduction17/03/26 11:44 PM
1

Yeah this for sure. I joined volunteering because I wanted to, and I haven't got dates from it, but the girls (and others) that I meet there I get along very well
/r/seduction17/03/26 06:42 AM
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Literally the last two years, and this was advocated by women themselves lmao.
/r/seduction17/03/26 06:31 AM
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It's like these people are so into demonising acceptable target groups they inadvertently walk all over women's rights as well. Women have the right to walk away. It's not 1652 anymore. They're implying that women aren't able to make their own choices.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/26 02:26 AM
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Yeah I have no idea why you are being downvoted. I'm 25 and I've seen this so much. A lot of girls just straight up not wanting ONS'es anymore, even if you met in a highly sexual environment like a club, etc. ONS'es genuinely seem more of a millennial and older thing at this point
/r/seduction11/03/26 10:47 PM
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I once got a number just by randomly starting a conversation with "That's cool but do you know about Warhammer 40k"?
/r/seduction09/03/26 05:01 PM
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Actors are more important than theorists. I feel this so much as a Brit. Every time someone suggests policy to improve our lives, like housing or whatever, you have the crabs moaning about theories why it would never work here, even if SOMEONE ELSE has already implemented a similar policy and it worked wonders.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/03/26 03:44 PM
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Yeah. The most telling sign of feminism as it exists as a religion rather than a movement is the lack of transitional and end states. For them it's ostensibly to 'compensate for historical patriarchal advantages'. That in itself I don't find inherently insidious, I'd even be supportive since there are real areas where historical inertia does lead to women being disadvantaged. (In the same way that in some areas, minorities are similarly disadvantaged due to white people having informal networks …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/26 08:15 PM
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Yeah. I'm not American, nor am I interested in the Olympics, so I genuinely had to look up what that was even about to even understand what she was talking about, but apparently I'm part of the problem... I've had women (online) repeatedly mock me as lying/not doing enough/still problematic. I help everyone period. That's just who I am. I've helped men, I've helped women. It's like why would I anonymously lie online for internet points. Woo hoo, I have +3 extra karma, cool. Feminists always want…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/26 09:55 PM
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Past a point of reasonable caution, a lot of misandrists genuinely believe in the original sin of being male. On another sub, I commented I understand and want to change things because of things I've seen my female friends have gone through with men harassing/assaulting them, but have no idea where to even start when the OP (a woman) said 'men should do more' because it was her impression that the average man/average male spaces lets it slide or encourages it when men brag about SA/harassing wom…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/26 11:54 AM
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I think you're spot on. I think this is probably due to how men have been socialised to do the pursuing/take the initiative. As a AuDHD guy, I basically have to take all the initiative so I think I internalised that behaviour pattern even more than average.
/r/seduction25/02/26 01:12 AM
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Yeah, definitely working on making my intentions clearer as well as forcing myself to make a judgement call sooner.
/r/seduction25/02/26 12:04 AM
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Hey man, not adding to the convo but I have this problem to a T and want to say thanks for name dropping these. Gonna check it out.
/r/seduction24/02/26 10:35 PM
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Yeah this is me. I date multiple people at the same time, and keep it going because I feel lost in the moment. Even if I technically did nothing wrong it's not a good thing, but I always feel like I don't know them enough to decide who to go with.
/r/seduction24/02/26 10:33 PM
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Personally I've not had good experiences with them. It seems they have extremely low interest in East Asian men for the most part but that's just my personal anecdote. Most of the girls I've dated in the UK have been white or South Asian.
/r/seduction20/02/26 02:24 PM
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You can literally google 'Anglosphere'? Are you that lazy? It's like, 4 fucking countries dud.e
/r/seduction19/02/26 10:17 AM
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It's all relative I guess, but yeah, Polish is definitely less of an uphill battle compared to being South or East Asian
/r/seduction19/02/26 10:15 AM
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Yeah, it's fucked up, but what can you do.
/r/seduction19/02/26 10:13 AM
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Anglosphere countries in general black guys will do pretty good. You have significant subsets of women in Anglosphere countries that fetishise black men due to historical stereotypes of black guys. Dehumanising stereotypes sure, but it is what it is.
/r/seduction19/02/26 10:12 AM
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Yeah, I mean, this is just basic race/nationality dynamics. White guys from rich countries will often do the best, because of a combination of views of ethnic superiority + implications of wealth/positive stereotypes. In Asia you will get rated higher based on that you're white, which you share with these guys, but in Western Europe, whiteness is standard, so it becomes a nationality/culture thing where you don't get the positive implications of being from a country deemed "superior". Think of h…
/r/seduction19/02/26 01:47 AM
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It's much easier imo. I've not really been actively looking, but of my last few relationships, only 1 came from apps. The other came from irl just chatting to strangers/etc
/r/seduction18/02/26 12:01 AM
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Start talking to other people on their own/groups that look open asap. It's the same looking more desperate the longer you stare at a girl without making a move. Just do it.
/r/seduction17/02/26 11:59 PM
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I've had woman tell me 'my favourite dessert place is XYZ' and then stare at me for 10 seconds after a good convo (she was the cashier, it was quiet). In hindsight she was expecting me to ask her out. My autistic ass just wanted my mango sweets.
/r/seduction17/02/26 10:30 AM
1

Yes but how many women actively say 'I'm not a feminist'? Feminism in general has been so institutionalised it's an opt-out thing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/26 02:50 PM
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Way to demonstrate the very tribalism that me and the other guy talked about. The same way that non-socialists can have socialist ideals when it's clearly a good thing, so can non-feminists agree with feminist ideals. Men need women. Women need men. Even the most bitter femcel/incel fundamentally depend on lots of people of the other sex for emotional/material support either directly or via the systems that they require. If you focus on just one gender in your outreach, you've already lost.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/26 12:15 PM
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I mean yeah. The point is how it's just like how 'not all men' from men make women recoil (rightly) because it's usually as a response to when women bring up issues (some) men against women. Everyone who is informed about the topic knows that the sane men saying it 'women do XYZ' which prompts the 'not all women' response mean 'some' women, same with when the sane women say 'men do XYZ' just mean 'some' men. The point is that these things (feminism/men's rights) come off as attacking the other g…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/26 06:07 PM
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Feminism is basically like men saying 'it's not all men'. At this point, intentions aside, the narrative is so poisoned that we just can't work with it anymore.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/26 03:17 PM
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3, but when I start sleeping with one of them, I cut the rest off.
/r/seduction09/02/26 12:05 PM
2

Either this, or extremely conservative/religious setting.
/r/seduction09/02/26 02:48 AM
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Laughs in dating Muslim women as a non-Muslim
/r/seduction03/02/26 11:54 AM
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Imma be real. If you don't enjoy an activity, you're not going to enjoy yourself while trying to get to know people while doing that activity. I personally am 50-50 on clubs. Some clubs I like the music, but I hate crowded, dirty places in general. So I don't go to clubs to "pull".
/r/seduction24/01/26 11:29 PM
0

Let's also point out that the Estonian SS Legion was also a thing. When will Estonia pay reparations to Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 05:52 PM
1

Yeah, morally speaking it's not good, as all racism even positive racism is dehumanising. I'm just saying if we're talking purely of ability to attract women, positive stereotypes like that even if they're inherently bad, do increase the number of women that would be into you.
/r/seduction21/01/26 03:51 PM
1

I do that in addition to heavy weight training 4-5x a week for 1-1.3 hours each session
/r/seduction21/01/26 03:50 PM
1

I do warehouse work at a food bank as a volunteer and cycle everywhere.
/r/seduction21/01/26 03:46 PM
1

I do a lot of physical activity and use a lot of dumb/outgoing humour.
/r/seduction21/01/26 09:01 AM
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You have to: a) Keep in mind that no one category of men attracts absolutely all women. They have different tastes. It's easy to go down the incel demoralisation route when you see white/other guys do better. Sure, they might have a higher % chance, but that doesn't mean your % is bad b) Be multifaceted. If you don't have positive stereotypes going for you (e.g. how 'snow bunnies' fetishise black men who specifically fit the stereotypes), then it's up to you to show you're more than just your st…
/r/seduction21/01/26 12:02 AM
1

I'm 5'7, not bald, young, and fit. Guess I'll see lol
/r/seduction15/01/26 09:58 PM
2

When did you live in London? I only lived in London post COVID, so I may be wrong if it was different in the past, and I've bar hopped, but not really regularly.
/r/seduction15/01/26 08:56 PM
1

I hate that I agree, but I have to. Of my mixed friend group (both gender and nationality mixed), basically all the British girls without exception are some form of either undiagnosed depressed, or on meds for depression. American girls also value height much more - at your height you could be unemployed, live without your mol, have a criminal record, all fine. As a short Brit going to the US next month, guess I'll get fucked lol.
/r/seduction15/01/26 06:38 PM
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Somewhat. Even bars people tend to go with groups. Not a lot of mingling for the most part, as someone who lives here. Slightly more acceptable than randomly on the street, but it's brutal. Clubs OP will do well if he's tall and muscular though.
/r/seduction15/01/26 06:36 PM
1

Yes, we're all burnt out from shitty wages and shitty CoL lol. I'm genuinely not joking but work is so demanding here and people are too tired to meet new people for the most part. Most couples here meet either via friends, or at university, or via dating apps because that last one is low effort. None of these are great if you're a working adult male. For the most part I have to have on/off seasons for when I'm looking to date or not, because meeting new people via activities (which I do anyway,…
/r/seduction15/01/26 06:34 PM
2

00s and 10s field reports and their consequences on the writing skills on men have been a disaster
/r/seduction06/01/26 03:21 PM
4

>Asks for opinions online >Stranger gives opinion based on what's written >Crashes out Defensive much? Grown up lil bro. Use proper punctuation and stop using emojis. Grown ass man.
/r/seduction06/01/26 12:09 PM
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Yeah then it's probably something else. Either way OP is making it out to be much more helpful than it is was the main point I was trying to make.
/r/seduction02/01/26 05:28 PM
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Because OP's not being wholly transparent and being a host also comes with a lot of risk besides merely word getting out you're trying to sleep around. Being a host also means your person is attached to the event. It has to be GOOD events or people are going to associate having a bad/boring time with you. The one guy I know who is a host (used to be anisoc president, ran tons of events personally), had HUGE numbers of girls trying to smash because he had additional social skills in how to make s…
/r/seduction02/01/26 05:24 PM
2

Wise words friend. Thanks
/r/seduction01/01/26 07:35 PM
10

Yeah man, I had that a few years ago. I guess I was lucky when I first dated since back then I could vibe with the majority of women I dated, who were amazing, even if we didn't work out. Now even if we vibe, it's either they don't know what they want in life, or they're stable, but it gives me second thoughts because of something else.
/r/seduction01/01/26 07:23 PM
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Tbh it's not worth it. I was dating two women until recently. One of them wanted something serious, so I cut off the other one who was being too flaky about her future. The serious one got hard vibechecked when we hung out for NYE last night, and I'm thinking about breaking up with her too. Honestly, the best way to stop thinking about girls is just interacting and dating enough of them. Then once you get the attention you'll realise this thing you built up is all in your head and not worth it.
/r/seduction01/01/26 06:19 PM
2

Lol, thanks, but looks wise, I'm solidly mid by both Western and Asian standards.
/r/seduction24/12/25 09:01 PM
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Try, but don't be saddened if you don't. There's a misconception that nightlife/clubs/parties = easy women. That's true, but what's also true is that attraction as a whole isn't purely looks based. But think about this, at a club too loud to hear anyone, as a woman, you ONLY have a man's looks to go off. Why would they go for someone they aren't as physically attracted to? Nightlife is great the closer you get to conventionally attractive men. I'm a solid 5/10. I work out and have been told I'm …
/r/seduction24/12/25 04:23 AM
8

Yeah pretty much. I didn't want to point out that men were expected to, and did for the most part help women into male dominated fields when the political impetus was directing them to. But somehow, the opposite is radical. A lot of male professors in the 80s, 90s, 00s, and 10s were encouraged and expected to take on female grad students even if that wasn't something they've done befor.e
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/12/25 12:26 AM
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That's like expecting men to teach women how to do their makeup. It's not an insane idea, but certain groups are currently better equipped to teach due to institutional knowledge gaps. I'd be happy for older guys to teach young men how to provide emotional labour. The problem is that women hold a near-monopoly on this *right now*, and you saying that is like a rich investment bank telling community centre workers located in a shithole: 'just teach the poor bitches in your area how to get into fi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/12/25 03:13 PM
5

Yes that was my point. The overfocusing on boys is stupid because it stems from a position that women can do no wrong due to the history of female-infantilisation. It's misogynistic to think women can't be as bad or worse than men, or that any harm they do is a product of being misled.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/12/25 09:15 PM
31

No one tell the old foggies about 'erotica' and how women pay through the nose to read 'dark romance' about being choked out by a 7'3 tall 300 year old vampire **ping her. Idk man, men reading about the same things would be pretty fucking gross as well
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/12/25 03:58 PM
6

Yeah. I love concerts, but my neurodiverse brain is just overwhelmed anywhere I'm trying to focus on two things at once (enjoying the music and interacting with people).
/r/seduction07/12/25 01:09 PM
3

>Old guy blaming liberalism for the fact young girls don't want to fuck him Is this really what conservatism is?
/r/seduction28/11/25 11:19 AM
9

Yeah yeah "vet". Go impress women with that mindset your own age then.
/r/seduction28/11/25 11:15 AM
5

I was going to give advice, but u/Then-Peace-2218 basically sums up everything I had to say. Just being socialised (talking to as many people as possible, talking to them as people, being respectful and not forcing an interaction) is 90% of the battle.
/r/seduction27/11/25 01:10 PM
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Bro can't fathom enjoying life and doing experiences lol
/r/seduction25/11/25 01:35 AM
2

Hell yeah. What's the demographics like culture/country wise?
/r/seduction25/11/25 01:35 AM
2

Simple aesthetics will go a long way, you'd be surprised. Something as simple as black eyeliner will make some guys go crazy
/r/seduction24/11/25 02:59 PM
148

Based as fuck
/r/seduction23/11/25 04:24 AM
9

I mean, several of the items (2-4, didn't read the rest of your post) are just straight up not true. The evidence is disputed, but that's not "there is no evidence". She sounds like she's either lying or just completely ignorant of epistemology.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/25 02:04 PM
1

Depends heavily on your natural body language If good -> Clubs are good. If bad/average/you depend more on conversations -> bars better The funny thing is in the UK not sure if this is a trend or not, but bars have obnoxiously loud music nowadays anyway not too different from a club in that regard.
/r/seduction21/11/25 05:22 PM
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Again. I don't disagree. I am quibbling on your stance that these are equivalent; that women are affected "just as much". Which one is easier with regards to the impact your agency has on your immediate outcomes? Hoping that 30% of men decide to go against their nature to collectivise their bargaining power, or an individual women choosing to lower her standards slightly? Everything else is downstream of that, up to and including men needing to do better anyway. This is the classic prisoner's di…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/25 03:01 PM
9

Real
/r/seduction21/11/25 11:21 AM
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Nah disagree. This is some "women are the real victims of men dying in wars" reasoning. Women are affected, but it's not "just as much" because we're talking about completely different power dynamics. Men can't choose to have a top 5% income. Women can choose to lower their standards to be in line with the average. Your solution is correct though. It'd be preferable if everyone just defaulted to being co-providers both economically (money) and domestically (splitting out childcare, household tas…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/25 10:59 AM
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I mean, I think these are two related but distinct issues no? Genuine expectation inflation based on material demands (e.g. the average Gen Zer, including women, thinks you need a 900K salary to "make it", and this is will inevitably trickle down into dating expectations) and the second part which is men's loneliness and mental health, of which dating is only part of. But yeah, Mamdani W
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/25 10:38 AM
0

Dude you don't have to be retarded to get women lol. It's not that hard to be confident, *and* somewhat intelligent.
/r/seduction20/11/25 11:16 PM
3

Yes, but that's (Logic gate 1) -> (Logic gate 2) Where LTR is logic gate 2. LG2 doesn't matter if you fail at LG1 in the first place due to other factors.
/r/seduction20/11/25 09:32 PM
5

I mean, I agree with everything said about accountability, etc, but the '100%' thing is what's probably what souring people on the old narrative. Sometimes, women do choose to not sleep with you for whatever reason (and that is fine), be it race, height, her religion, etc. No amount of body language, kinematics, etc will change those situations. And yeah, the whole "Western woman" shit is fucking hilarious. I'm a short minority guy, I've been playing on hard mode the entire time, and I've still …
/r/seduction20/11/25 06:49 PM
3

No, you're a product of your environment. You can do all the self-affirmation and confidence exercises in the world, but if you came from a background where you've constantly been beaten down and shit, you'll still have less than someone who was consistently praised growing up. I was in the former and worked through it. Now I have above average confidence but it's still the difference between hard work and (talent + hard work). This isn't saying OP is wrong in saying that incel shit isn't helpfu…
/r/seduction20/11/25 06:45 PM
0

Do you mean the thought leaders who take the work of academics and use it as tools of mass mobilisation? I think it's more of the latter if that's what you mean. Taking the gender wage gap as an example, we have Headline: Women earn 30% less than men Academic 'context': Basically, the preface of how the study was conducted, under what conditions. For example, this is not controlled for type of work, hours worked, differences in behaviour, etc. Method: The scientific method used to come to this q…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/11/25 01:47 AM
6

As someone who's read a bit of feminist academic work, I respectfully disagree on the "following academic and ideological work" bit to be honest. A lot (maybe not most, but at the very least a large minority, if not outright majority) of academically competent feminist work will preface all the stipulations and disclaimers that you would expect from peer-reviewed literature. In my opinion the failing comes from when you filter these ideas and theories from the academic realm to the mass movement…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/25 04:15 PM
3

I'm solely talking about the rhetoric pushed, not how much institutional power is behind each
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/25 03:06 PM
11

Yeah. Manosphere content is rejected by mainstream society. Femcel/extreme feminist slop is treated as harmless.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/25 03:05 PM
7

Honestly, you can switch the genders of those being attacked, and you would have a hard time distinguishing between average feminist rhetoric, and average Manosphere/Incel content. As someone who's seen both firsthand, and firmly rejects both, all I have to say is don't stare into the void too much. You'd go crazy at how little thought people put into hating others.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/25 01:57 PM
5

I am now wondering which substrain of sociology studies this, how mass movements evolve, because I'm seeing strong parallels with several irl groups where failure to moderate the extreme wing led to the collapse of either the extreme end or the overall movement. E.g. the HK 2019 protests. Started off reasonable with widespread support. Extremists introduced things beyond the scope of the original protests, while ramping up arson/violence. They also announced a proscription of "traitors", meaning…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/25 01:55 PM
18

Same. All this gender war bullshit grinds on your soul. Manosphere bullshit artists have been thoroughly debunked, but the equivalent femcel content hardly ever gets called out. It's just tiring.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/25 01:48 PM
1

Well people are objectively wrong. Maslow's hierarchy of needs lays it out well. Your physiological needs like food, water, shelter, right to life come first.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/11/25 11:08 PM
5

The thing is even if they're rare in your immediate surroundings, the point is that within travelling distance, you can easily find situations where there are many women. Like a nearby city, other villages, etc. Even the ratio of women to men isn't really relevant. Dunbar's number dictates you can only know a certain number of people anyway before you are unable to maintain meaningful relationships. Even if there are only 500 young, single women in your town of let's say 5,000, Dunbar's number i…
/r/seduction05/11/25 12:17 PM
2

Well yes. That is exactly what I was saying. We should investigate both sides to establish the validity of their claims before judging. This is not the case in 99% of conversations pertaining to gender. That is literally all I meant. I have no idea how you came to the conclusion you did. It's important to understand that this movement wasn't born out of hatred for men, but rather out of widespread misogyny in South Korea, both at the societal and state levels. Yes I agree it's a messy situation …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/11/25 09:02 PM
6

Gonna be a quiet night for me. Woke up at 6am today, dead tired from work and working out, and have to wake early tomorrow. And it's rainy as shit today in London. I'm staying inside in my nice dry apartment. Hope everyone else has a great night though.
/r/seduction31/10/25 10:29 PM
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Flip it for any crime where women are the majority of victims and watch how quickly people who say this cry trying to do mental gymnastics. I certainly wouldn't say having to witness rape is worst than actually being raped.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/25 03:03 PM
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Yeah. It's ridiculous on every aspect on it, and symptomatic of the modern feminist movement. Women are the worst oppressed no matter the situation, regardless if men are suffering objectively worse outcomes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/25 03:01 PM
7

It was rhetorical. I've seen too many.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/25 03:00 PM
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This is honestly old rhetoric, it's always narratives about how losing a loved one is actually worse than dying. Not to play oppression olympics, but I don't know man, literally fucking dying sounds like it's a little bit more impactful to me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/25 07:39 AM
10

I think asking the question without defining "feminist" itself is a bit of a non-starter. For me, I am a very strict egalitarian in the sense that everyone should have the same rights, and also held to the same expectations. This includes advocating for women in fields where they are disadvantaged, as well as for men in fields where men are disadvantaged. The reason I don't call myself a feminist despite having been told I share quite an overlap is that I think 'feminism' as a movement has devia…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/25 04:15 PM
3

Disadvantages don't mean you give up. There's effectively infinite potential partners out there. So what if being short disqualifies you with 20% more women than if you were tall? If you talk to enough people, you'll be dealing with Dunbar's number in no time.
/r/seduction30/10/25 02:49 PM
9

Exactly. The definition has *always* been stupid and arbitrary.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/25 06:47 PM
7

Yeah same here. I never identified with any of the pill movements per se, but as a young, lonely teenage guy, who's also of am ethnic minority stereotyped to be emasculated cucks and nerds, and went to an all guys school from 11 to 18? You can bet that retreating into pill ideology sounded so much fucking easier. It's easier because it's all based on blaming other people (rightly or wrongly) compared to actually realising I'm being stupid and forcing myself to take accountability, and then put m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/25 06:34 PM
10

Thanks for adding context. A lot of this stuff is suppressed or trapped behind language barriers. I couldn't find any easy souces summarising the insanity of the 4B movement.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/25 02:15 AM
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Yeah, this is a massive issue that is completely under the radar. I picked up Laura Bates' Men who hate women as I intend to write a incel deradicalisation book putting forth why I think incels simultaneously both deserve sympathy and need to be pulled away from cancerous incel ideology with as much force as needed until it happens, and wanted some inspiration from an accomplished writer. As someone who's seen that pipeline firsthand, I don't blame women for being afraid of the men like this, at…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/25 06:43 PM
4

Yeah I honestly don't understand how older men can date younger women (and the reverse) seriously. Do you seriously not value emotional/intellectual connection? As a younger guy, I recognise this is probably somewhat me being sour grapes, but even a few months out of college into my job, I felt 0 connection with the majority of uni girls that were only on paper 2 years or so younger, unless they were about to graduate. I'm 24 with a few YOE in the workforce, and I genuinely can't fathom dating a…
/r/seduction28/10/25 03:46 PM
6

Being autistic makes dating very, very hard because attraction is both physical and communicative. The former is usually not more of a problem for autistic folks (since it's just based on looks), but the latter absolutely is because we (using this term loosely, because I haven't been formally diagnosed) deviate from the average both in terms of verbal and non-verbal communication. Depending on how autistic your friends are, they may be able to mask and learn how to express themselves in societal…
/r/seduction27/10/25 11:47 PM
2

This is the truth. Autism can manifest in different ways. You either: a) Get your friends to mask (if possible) so that their tendencies are expressed only in societially acceptable ways. Whether or not this is possible will heavily depend on the guy in question. For some folks they genuinely can't. It's not a moral failing on their part, it's just too hard. b) Find women expressly ok with an autistic guy.
/r/seduction27/10/25 11:40 PM
2

Yeah I agree with this. Anything not a full meal/where you can easily do multiple things is a good way to keep things casual and light hearted.
/r/seduction24/10/25 12:51 AM
1

In addition to what other people have said about asking things that you actually want to know and not solely asking questions but throwing in observations and teases, I would also recommend watching podcasts with good interviewers. Steven Bartlett had a lot of good ones with diary of a CEO from a while back. Not the biggest fan of the latest ones which are more click baity, but a lot of his stuff from before 6 months ago are really good examples of how to be a good engaging conversationalist eve…
/r/seduction23/10/25 05:14 PM
0

Probably try anti-depressants I guess. Even people who've been doing things for ages can crack. Soldiers can be in combat for years seemingly fine before getting PTSD all of a sudden. Or if you don't want that, change your routine, try a holiday to get a new perspective. Religion works for some people.
/r/seduction19/10/25 07:37 PM
2

Bro can't even see the difference between moral dilemmas and practical pragmatism. Look at how he cries 'you're just not EDGY or IMMORAL enough' when his ridiculous ideas are called out for being stupid and probably won't work the way he describes
/r/seduction19/10/25 07:34 PM
1

Honestly anything that's real and situational. I've had cases where I straight up asked for food from women, not in a homeless person way, but more like 'what is that it looks really cool' and they offered me some to try, and then I started a conversation where she started talking about the cafe, the pastries, etc, and then from there on the convo was smooth.
/r/seduction19/10/25 03:46 PM
5

Yeah, start with something casual like reacting to her story, hi/whatever.
/r/seduction16/10/25 10:32 AM
1

Uhhh no? I have sub 600 followers, and have my account private, and I've still dated girls off Instagram lol. I'd say something like 1/3 of the girls I date have been off IG, with about a 20% success rate. I'm a really mid guy as well, so not like I'm a model and I'm pulling them just off my PFP. My PFP was just my sneakers at one point.
/r/seduction15/10/25 02:14 PM
4

Man I'm 24 but I feel fucking tired boss. I think I need to get CBT or some shit. I'm just tired.
/r/seduction15/10/25 01:06 PM
4

This, plus OP, ignore them. The thing with approaching and game is that anywhere is fine as long as you're socially calibrated. I met a few of my girlfriends literally just from Instagram adding, and have met girls from bars/speed-dating events/apps as well. I wouldn't write it off, just try again after you've had someone review what you're doing from a 3rd person POV. The only place where I honestly haven't is clubs, but that's because I genuinely dislike that environment and don't enjoy those …
/r/seduction14/10/25 06:34 AM
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Primarily it's because if it doesn't work out, you're stuck with potentially awkward situations where you run into the same people again and again. Also for a lot of guys gym is a place to focus and refine their mind and body. Making it yet another place where you can't "relax" is not great in their eyes.
/r/seduction13/10/25 12:29 AM
11

Source: just trust me bro // my sphincter
/r/seduction12/10/25 02:26 PM
1

Bro crashed out and is asking for advice lmao. Nah dawg, you fucked up. Either man up and admit you went a bit crazy, or move on./
/r/seduction12/10/25 11:42 AM
1

I've had the opposite lol. Literally 90% of the company is was already seeing someone when they joined. I think only maybe 4 people out of 30-50 are single. It's not even a case of most people being old. Almost everyone's between 22 and 30, even the CEO is only 35 or so.
/r/seduction10/10/25 09:53 PM
1

Yeah maybe not immediately new, like 1-2 dates in. I wouldn't know too much about before a first date though, never had much trouble closing those.
/r/seduction07/10/25 10:21 PM
1

Yeah. In fact, I'd say straight up call her, and pretend like nothing happened.
/r/seduction07/10/25 08:54 PM
1

Tbh, not really beyond a ceiling. I have multiple close friends who are girls. That they are girls is good to get you out of the headspace of "women are a different species. However I've found a lot of them don't have single friends to introduce me to (if that is a secondary goal) nor are they that good at helping you attract girls you're interested in, since every woman is different, and this includes having different preferences they assume is universal for women, but they're obviously not uni…
/r/seduction07/10/25 05:43 PM
4

I'm cut from a different type of cloth compared to most men. I'm not like other girls, I'm super super special!!! While you partied, I studied the blade... Lol. Lmao even.
/r/seduction04/10/25 03:04 PM
2

Yeah at least say something like "I prefer to keep all my first dates casual, works out better from my experience" or something. It's just stupid because it implies you don't see her as worth the effort.
/r/seduction02/10/25 10:51 PM
12

Short + autistic + minority is another ultimate demoralisation combo. People in general don't treat you like you exist, unless you're explicitly loud and in your face. It's life. Can't let it get you down, because the pygmalion effect is real, and if you let it affect you, it becomes a vicious loop of "eww he's got a chip on his shoulder" (which I get anyway because I have a mean resting face). C'est la vie.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/10/25 12:52 PM
4

What are the big differences between East and Southeast Asian cultural circles. I have a background in Chinese culture, and have seen SEA culture, but don't really know enough about the latter to compare on any meaningful level.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/10/25 12:43 PM
1

Italy, Greece. Hot weather makes people chiller and friendlier for the most part, unless something's gone terribly wrong with the culture (like Hong Kong).
/r/seduction01/10/25 11:11 AM
1

It is exactly fake alpha "im such a badass" advice. This is the same type of shit as cases where you see roided up guys shout at old ladies for "disrespecting them" over innocent gestures and remarks because their self confidence is so fucking low.
/r/seduction01/10/25 10:00 AM
2

What sort of songs and poems do you recommend?
/r/seduction28/09/25 10:30 PM
4

And also "creepy" and "desperate" are completely subjective terms coloured by culture, perceptions of race, adherence to conventional beauty standards... Men of colour always get punched down on. There's a reason why a lot of women refuse to date minorities, and refuse to give a reason, because the more they elaborate, the more racist they realise they are.
/r/seduction26/09/25 10:29 AM
1

"Oh no, my steak and too juicy, and my lobster is too buttery. I can't fit all these blessings in my mansion with my wads of cash and my 13 luxury cars".
/r/seduction26/09/25 09:10 AM
5

Someone encourage him, it'd be funny
/r/seduction25/09/25 03:24 AM
25

Yeah, OP's stupid reductionist advice is stupid and reductionist. Even if a woman's decided she will, her control might mean that she might not until the 3rd, 4th or whatever date. OP's implication that you should be pressuring them for sex is stupid, because it's poisoning the pool of women that guys like him harp on about being 'marriage material'.
/r/seduction23/09/25 12:49 PM
5

Ok, go beg the Russians/NATO leaders for no war then.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/25 10:58 AM
18

And she gives any gifts you give her to her Thai husband.
/r/seduction17/09/25 11:24 PM
1

You don't hangout with a male buddy and think "how do i keep his interest so that we hangout a second time" or "i need to make sure we hangout a second or third time to make sure our friendship is solidified and he doesn't lose interest in forming it" Laughs in chronically bad self esteem.
/r/seduction17/09/25 12:29 PM
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If anything all your doing is giving them issue for the next guy to deal with and make them hate all dudes who cant treat em with honesty. Yeah. I'm so fucking tired of wannabe-alpha types who think like this, and then complain about how few good women there are. They're part of the problem. "Alpha" guys are nothing but a grift parasite class in society, because if everyone acted like them, society would literally collapse
/r/seduction17/09/25 08:24 AM
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My main argument would be decades of positive reinforcement and possibly lower level of intelligence. Didn't read al'that, but yeah. Pygmalion effect is real. It's just knowing that failing is okay gives you massive amounts of confidence, and is 90% due to how you were raised/what environment. It's why some cultures that are very self critical (like East Asian cultures) have guys who seem less confident.
/r/seduction12/09/25 10:51 PM
2

Could you provide more info. What race + where?
/r/seduction06/09/25 12:05 PM
44

Yeah, the same way how not all men pay for fucking feet pics. We really don't need needless generalisations fuelling the gender wars.
/r/seduction05/09/25 06:43 PM
1

Finally some good posting.
/r/seduction30/08/25 12:31 PM
8

What's up with all these bad writing task posts? Seriously no normal human starts a bit of text with "wanting to get my dick inside some fucking pussy!"
/r/seduction28/08/25 11:09 AM
1

If you want to be picky "universal sign in Western cultures". Which fucking shithole are you from that people can't afford earbuds lmao. We’re people, we’re supposed to be social creatures. It’s how our ancestors survived. Yeah and it's their choice whether they want to participate or not. You don't have a right to force feed an anorexic do you? Some of you genuinely need to learn boundaries.
/r/seduction27/08/25 06:15 PM
0

Dude it's literally a respect thing. This is just a gross mindset.
/r/seduction26/08/25 11:52 PM
6

Other people aren't your entertainment either, and they have a right to not consenting to be so. I'm all for cold approach, but earbuds in is a universal sign of "please fuck off". You're just rude if you ignore that.
/r/seduction26/08/25 11:50 PM
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Yeah, this is pretty much a universal observation that a small number of offenders cause the majority of incidents for any given phenomenon. Violence against women is basically another case of this. There was a thread on my local city subreddit where some guy was basically going off on how all men should never approach women. https://www.reddit.com/r/london/comments/1mwfx94/it\_may\_shock\_you\_to\_hear/. I generally got negative reactions when I pointed out the comments pointed towards "men" as…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/08/25 12:56 PM
7

I'm just going to point out that this story is very ivory-tower-ist. The people who are having kids? Not going to give two figs about crap like this. You see gangbangers, drug dealers, losers, with baby mamas all the time. The people who will actually get discouraged? People who bother reading, at least somewhat informed, probably professionals who are in an objectively better place to raise a family if we are looking at society as an distribution. It's brainwashing men and women to think that t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/25 11:15 PM
1

MFers need to learn Maslow's hierarchy of needs and use it as a prioritisation guide. Lots of people making bad choices.
/r/seduction22/08/25 11:11 AM
4

Because that's basing your worth on what other people think, and that's a horrible idea. There's how others see you, and how you see yourself. These are linked, but not the same thing. Other's opinions only affect how THEY treat you, and shouldn't affect how you see yourself.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/08/25 09:49 AM
2

Well, that's where the ability ot guage comes in. If you push things too far too fast, some women will consent, and then reflect and think it went too fast where you hit their non-negotiable of no sex on the first date, hence they reject you after as well, while OP might have been able to go further on a second/third/fourth date if he had dialled it back a bit and not escalated as much as he did.
/r/seduction21/08/25 03:30 PM
5

Any tips?
/r/seduction20/08/25 10:36 PM
7

Sure, but most women aren't into most men. What most men need to realise is they need to learn how to gauge where they are on that scale. The pseudo PUA mentality where you MUST sleep with them on the first date or else the relationship is not worth it is fucking idiotic.
/r/seduction20/08/25 07:37 AM
20

What? No, some women genuinely don't have sex with guys on a first date. How is that hard to understand?
/r/seduction20/08/25 07:21 AM
56

They spend a decade drilling into boys that you're worthless unless women wanna be in relationships with you and then get indignant when men take that to heart. Exactly this. Society, including the vast majority of women, continue to hold patriarchal norms for men with regards to basing men's worth on their ability to access sex (or female validation). Men who aren't naturally confident/attractive/etc are literally in a no win scenario because the vast majority can't easily increase their value …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/08/25 06:33 AM
20

Yeah, when I say "when women say this", I want to clarify it's not helpful when anyone does it. I really can't take anyone who does "men are/women are" seriously, unless their proceeding words are full of conditionals acknowledging that it's a general statement.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/08/25 03:04 PM
66

Also when women say this, it's simply not helpful. There are plenty of "subcultures" within "male" culture. Think of all the permutations of social-economic class, then overlay with race. And then that's before getting into individual experiences within those groups. An upper class, rich, introverted black man will have a vastly different experience from a middle class white man who's been a party boy his entire life, who will have a vastly different experience from an poor Asian man who grew up…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/08/25 09:33 AM
16

Agreed. The problem with modern Western mainstream social thought is that it's very "end of history". Within this belief system, anything worth mentioning already exists. All the other major biases of the past are "gone", which is why a lot of people don't even bother investigating whether their worldviews are based in problematic history and actually do the opposite where they insist "it's just the way it is" and refuse to admit that they might have fallen for mainstream stereotypes, etc. E.g. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/25 08:55 AM
2

Same energy as a guy asking "how do I only talk to attractive women". As someone in this space to give advice to younger guys/deradicalising more out of touch men, we've spent the last 5-10 years trying to get men AWAY from that mindset into just being more well adjusted and talking to women as people. The mindset is kinda gross if I'm being honest. Both in guys and in girls. It's basically saying "I only deem people I find hot worthy of talking to".
/r/seduction03/08/25 06:43 PM
40

As he should be.
/r/seduction03/08/25 12:50 PM
7

It's not really lesser evils. Some of the right wing legitimately think that not allowing women to work is the best solution to their problems. Denying women their rights as full citizens is in my opinion a greater evil. It's a systematic design vs a systematic flaw. Imo at that point we're quibbling about massive crimes against humanity in both directions when both should be equally despised
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/25 05:41 PM
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I agree with you. I dislike the things that have been normalised by the feminist movement in hte last 15-30 years. But I really, really fucking hate the "put them into kitchens, take the shariapill" crowd because it's outright regressive. It's a perfect mirror of race discussions where we went from politicians beating us over the head with "all cultures are equal we are all melting pots" to a massive uptick in "only whites should live in the West". It's outright sickening because the sane ones l…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/25 03:39 PM
29

Jesus Christ. That's bad. Sorry about that. I genuinely think a lot of people on the internet don't know what words or logic are. They just lash out at you a bunch for replying to what you said, and then claims you're making stuff up. This is why debating and critical thinking should be topics in school. They genuinely don't seem like they can hold a coherent conversation, nor do they have moral consistency. They're just focused on being nasty, and when confronted with the hypocrisy of their own…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/25 01:54 PM
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I wholeheartedly agree with everything you've written. I would like for women to call Tea and its users out for what they are, but I don't expect them to, and therefore, there's no use in being emotional about it. I'm far more pessimistic about the gender solidarity thing though. It's merely the dynamics of power. In the same way you have a lot of working class folks defend billionaires, women as the gender with more social capital on average will absolutely have no problem pushing ideologies wh…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/25 01:49 PM
3

Yup, in other words, a grifter.
/r/seduction28/07/25 09:31 PM
4

To be fair, MAGA and Tate aren't necessary overlaps. Lots of the MAGA crowd are traditional family types who brought into the hype. They aren't really fans of the boozing, pimp image that Tate pushes
/r/seduction28/07/25 06:28 PM
1

How do you uh, start? I've been starting to start short convos just fine, but have a hard time connecting/moving to anything more lengthy. Thinking of taking sales classes/public speaking challenges to get over this
/r/seduction28/07/25 02:07 AM
1

SORRY
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/25 01:14 PM
2

Well I and I guess most of this subreddit thinks Andrew Tate is wrong, given that it's "LeftWingMaleAdvocates" and not "AndrewTateMaleAdvocates". What's your point here? The onus of teaching men how to be socially acceptable members of society should fall to the men themselves. You have infinite resources to learn facts on your own, there’s nothing stopping any man from going to a feminist forum and asking questions there. Cool, and do you hold women to the same standard? Do you expect ideologic…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/25 01:09 PM
6

That's not convincing because I've seen extremely feminist/egalitarian men being called incel when a woman simply didn't like what they said. I've seen married men being called incel. I've seen literal priests (aka, celibate by choice) being called incel. It's an ad-hominem and by-word for "I don't like you". Your attempt to rationalise ex post facto is simply wrong because even assuming the best case scenario, that's like saying it's acceptable to fight racism with more racism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/25 05:28 PM
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^someone with no concept of legal rights and higher concepts like law.
/r/MensRights25/07/25 11:54 PM
2

Creep trying to suck up to women who are openly misandrist turns out to be an incompetent lying ass gibbon? Well I never!
/r/MensRights25/07/25 11:48 PM
30

My sniff test is always "replace the subject of the rant with a traditionally maligned group" like women, or racial minorities. Most of the time it's literally just bigotry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/25 09:40 AM
30

I occasionally hang around on 4chan and it's genuinely less miserable than the leftist/feminist forums I've looked at on Reddit. At least with 4chan you're pretty sure most people are joking but even if they're not, a lot of the talk is focused on improving yourself, or shaming others into improving with insults. With subs like FDS and 2XC, it's constant misery and blame, and you know these people aren't joking either.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/25 08:23 AM
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Feminists embrace patriarchal systems when it suits them. By using "incel" and "virgin" as insults, they're buying into the patriarchal moral system where a man's worth is tied to their access to get sex. Within this framework where both the right and the left are endorsing the right's worldview, you literally can't expect a different outcome. And one side (Tate/right leaners) tells you how they think you can get women, as opposed to telling you to KYS and how you could feel guilty for being mal…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/25 08:20 AM
5

Yeah, fuck both gender equivalents. If we want a society that's truly advanced, personal accountability is needed for everyone.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/25 08:17 AM
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And they play it off as "I'm just a silly girl enjoying myself don't mind me." Madam rules apply to everyone.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/25 07:50 PM
20

Honestly, I have the idea for a game show. It takes comments from incels or women, and gender neutralises them. Contestants have to guess whether the comment was from women or incels. I'm sorry, from actually talking with my woman friends and being exposed to what they're comfortable saying, I can tell you that a lot of shit they say is literally verbatim what incels say but with "men" as the subject line instead of women. I've seen what incels actually say, it's not dissimilar. Derogatory comme…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/25 09:52 PM
21

Also think about how many women talk about men being mama's boys, etc. And how it makes them undatable, etc. Cool AND WHO ARE THEIR MOTHERS? Women! But somehow, how men were raised by women, is the fault of men. For the record, I'm not saying anyone should be attracted to people overly dependent on their parents, I for sure would view women with daddy issues with an eye of scepticism. But it's about who they blame. It's all just awful tribalism
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/25 09:49 PM
20

I for one am glad that modern feminism is being exposed for the hateful ideology that it's always been for the last 10 years. I grew up surrounded by this. My Overton window was shifted to accept this, but even then, nothing I've seen from feminists has been able to adequately justify itself, the same way other ideologies have. Now I'm older and wiser, I still think equality between sexes is a fundamental necessity that has work needed to be done towards it, but I can sure as hell see the modern…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/25 09:43 PM
19

Absolutely. The 100% trad man/woman dichotomy as dictated in the last 5-10 years or so doesn't exist outside memes and grifters who are extremes of the population by any measure. Traditional men have always been able to step up to partake in domestic roles if needed, it's just common sense you can take care of the kids and cook if your partner suddenly, I don't know, fucking dies from a bear attack. Similarly traditional women have also always been able to provide. Hunting with guns, traditional…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/25 09:55 AM
6

This is also true. I've seen this with a lot of fat acceptance circles in the last ten years. A lot of the people in that space, akin to how they try to label obesity as attractive and shame you into feeling attraction for them, a subsection of them tried hard to label extremely fringe fashion and obesity as "masculine". Aka "this is what a real man looks like".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/25 10:47 AM
19

Part 2 of comment. The pipeline very much focuses on observable data correlated with the incel world view (e.g. rates about divorce, dating statistics, real reported outcomes with racial hierarchies, etc), and forms a narrative projecting intent / assuming the worst intentions of all those involved, especially women. This worldview is inherently one that deprives women of a voice to capitalise on a pre-existing lack of connection with women, but it is very much based on real phenomena. Where mos…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/25 10:19 AM
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The problem as I see it are two fold: Mislabelling incels. It's been proven time and time again that most SA incidents are perpetuated by men who knew the women, and aren't strangers like in this case. Random, lonely guys even if they have misogynistic thoughts (which aren't ok, but I think that's a given we can all agree on based on the sub) aren't the ones attacking women. About a quarter of rapes are committed by partners, about the same by family members, and an amount beyond that are commit…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/25 09:25 AM
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Unfortunately, in British and American circles people started taking nebulous theoretical ideas quite literally and applying them to everything they could, and since these are influential political cultures, it travels. I've noticed this too. From talking to women from a lot of different cultures platonically, this almost seems like a Eastern European/Anglosphere unique phenonmenon. It's bizarre when you have cases of women simultanteously talk about how they don't need any men, and that men are…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/25 08:52 AM
30

Scratch every other feminist, find a someone with the level of hate on par with a Nazi.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/25 08:12 AM
5

Yeah I don't get this mindset, just move on to someone who aligns with your values?
/r/seduction26/06/25 06:48 PM
2

Sure, but do you think there is a reasonable % chance of getting punched in the face if another woman doesn't like what you say? For guys that's a non-ignorable possibility, because violence against men is normalised.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/25 04:40 PM
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Lol this. First 5 or so? Yeah could be overinflated egos. 50? Bro that's a you problem. Im shit at flirting and I usually get a second date about 2/3s of the time
/r/seduction26/06/25 03:03 PM
6

In a hundred years, history will look back on them as an incoherent craze/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/25 04:00 PM
22

Yeah it's just "boys being boys" but reversed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/25 09:15 AM
5

Fair enough. I was asking a genuine question.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/25 04:29 PM
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Isn't he a known troll who promotes hate towards Christians and Muslims but not Israel?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/25 11:56 AM
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To be clear, the driver was a woman as well, but not only that, also another minority. I'm convinced this is just my relative internalising the "no one will hit me because I'm a minority woman" and projecting that, when in fact I'm sure the driver would've given 0 fucks. Like, I'm not a "white guys are the true victims" guy, since I'm a minority guy and can see plenty of advantages that they get, but it's clear that some women have been so overly focused on hating on white men (not saying their …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/25 04:08 PM
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I'll add "Being able to behave excessively bellicosely and expect to not be hit back." I have a female relative who I hang out with sometimes and when we do it's often cycling. She has massive road rage. One time near a well known cycling spot some car moron was shouting to her passenger about how cyclists were cunts, so my relative slows down near the car and cusses them out while holding up a middle finger when they stopped. The car moves forward ahead of us again, and stops at a red a bit ahe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/25 09:23 AM
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Yeah the only exceptions are faith/ethnic groups where there's an expectation to date within the in-group, but other than that, dating someone you're friends with (not just acquaintances) seems to be an alien concept now. It's just bizarre because the dating song and dance is supposed to be a ad-hoc replacement for the familiarisation process, while being friends with potential partners already does that better.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/06/25 09:48 AM
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A few generations ago, this was different, as people had a wider circle of friends and friends often turned into lovers instead of getting friendzoned; One weird thing I've noticed with my friends is that the women seem way, way more averse to even the possibility of dating one of their friends than the men are. The men are mostly: "huh? Yeah I guess we get on well. Wouldn't be the worst thing if we dated." The women genuinely look at your like you just suggested committing a war crime. Did it a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/06/25 09:16 AM
18

Exactly, men wailing on each other in fist fights at school basically doesn't exist under recording.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/25 06:05 PM
1

Yeah, oligarchs are only as old as agriculture.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/25 08:50 AM
5

This is my exact experience. A lot of women I think of very positively in general are extremely inconsistent with doing what they preach. I don't mind if they really prefer traditional gender norms, but the dishonesty is tiring. You simply don't get to talk about how men are trash, etc, claim that women should have high paying careers (and they should if they are qualified) and then turn around and say you want a man to pay for everything and subsidise your good life.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/25 08:49 AM
7

When they become accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/25 08:46 AM
3

It is indeed a privilege not being a schizo, chud. /S
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/25 09:29 AM
1

Exactly lol. The girl I've dated the longest? Literally not even hugging on the first date. Banged on the second, and after we started dating continued to fuck multiple times a day several days a week.
/r/seduction26/05/25 02:41 PM
1

This post is the culmination of decades of bad dating advice degenerating into absolutes lol. Honestly it's nuts.
/r/seduction26/05/25 12:59 PM
1

Let it flow. Don't be unnatural. Thing is the dichotomy presented is a fake one. Trying to force physical touch when that's not in your nature like me, even if you're good at it, it comes off as forced. OTOH, if not escalating is natural for you, and you do that, girls will be more relaxed and primed to do something on the second date. Yes, there is a % of women who will view you as less and not give you a second chance for not doing something on the first date, but coming from experience, these…
/r/seduction26/05/25 12:59 PM
10

Honestly this feels like a bunch of morons repeating the same bullshit to each other. Every girl I've been with I've not done anything more than a hug at most. Most of them I didn't touch until the 2nd date. I've had enough actual life experience to know this absolute rule is bullshit lol because none of them were religious.
/r/seduction26/05/25 01:00 AM
1

I think it heavily depends on your company culture + sector + geography. I'm in London so geography works out, but for some reason my company is 100% people who already had SOs before they joined + in a sector that's mostly older and male + mostly a demographic I don't find attractive anyway.
/r/seduction07/05/25 09:54 AM
2

I was with you up until Europe. It's almost the same here recently
/r/seduction19/04/25 01:43 PM
2

Don't bother. I remember engaging with that user a while back. Her big complaint was that men using witticisms to debate her is the same as physical abuse. Whatever she's dealing with, I hope she gets better, but don't bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 01:52 PM
4

a) Ring b) If no ring, just fucking ask. Worst thing she can say is "sorry I'm taken" in which case you find out using 10 seconds of your time. Nothing lost.
/r/seduction12/04/25 05:39 PM
15

SMH modern women are so judgemental. How there they not enjoy the musk of OP's ass
/r/seduction29/03/25 04:38 PM
77

Dumbass be like "I brushed my teeth, but I also hadn't showered". Is OP retarded? This is why I make it a point to shower with shampoo for my whole body + hair and brush my teeth, and use cologne before every date.
/r/seduction29/03/25 04:05 PM
1

Where do y'all find enough women to have this situation? I used to be able to do this in uni, but not while working
/r/seduction29/03/25 01:16 PM
3

I wasn't the one who claimed it, the burden of proof is on the person who made the claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 09:35 PM
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Proving OP's point lol. This is the same logic and energy as "you're poor because you're lazy, not because of an ill adjusted society that produces negative outcomes." Before you start with the incel-related insults, I'm not an incel (see tag). I have vast networks of friends of both genders. I've had multiple long and short term partners. I'd consider myself romantically average, though with the statistics available, I'm apparently in the top quartile or something. You're explaining the phenome…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:21 PM
1

That's the same logic as incels. Sex isn't (shouldn't) be a human right. This is the female version of "I am owed sex" You're not forced to carry the child if you don't have sex. You're not the virgin Mary. Conscription on the other hand you literally can't opt out of in most countries, even if you don't do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:15 PM
1

Yup, I'd add on that we've (in the quasi-capitalist/capitalist West) we've gone from commercialising goods to commercialising experiences and people. Look at onlyfans as the key example. It's a giant monetised space dedicated to para-social relationships, but that's just the end state of the trend that started in the 50s and 60s selling "the American dream" within a specific context with specific items aimed at helping you (think) you're achieving a particular experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:10 PM
15

Woah look at who's making assumptions lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 07:44 AM
5

It also sounds pretty misogynistic tbh. "Any woman who's dating a man who makes more and contributes to the relationship in ways other than monetary means is nothing more than a bangmaid"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 01:18 AM
5

Exactly. OP's post is hilarious. When someone says you have a bad personality, it is usually referring to a person's attitude or the way they interact with others(sometimes these can be moral judgments) No one is really comparing autistic men Ted Bundy, Andrew Tate or Russel Brand. Are we really going to ignore how the vast majority of people aren't going around making these nuances? We have mountains of studies showing that people judge morally based on how they interact. The halo effect is lit…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 06:12 PM
7

Yes. This. You know what? All those stats, etc, that RP/BlackPers cite? Absolutely true. Those facts are evidence. Does that mean they dictate your personal experience? No, because human interaction as fickle things are almost a self fulfilling prophecy that you can affect a lot. There are immutable facts, but you can change a lot. I've had the best success with women when I just appraised the role of a dumb fun loving meathead. (I'm those things, but I'm also way too overly analytic normally). …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 05:40 PM
1

Disagree. Women hold those advantages + they have a higher socialisation rate than men. People get better at things they do over and over again. Even if they're not inherently better at masking, they're forced to be by circumstance
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 02:24 PM
1

Well sure you can look at it like that, but that's also omitting the important part that no matter how much the interaction is slanted in favour of women: they're still interviewing with YOU as part of this process. You have negotiating power as well. Just like how you wouldn't take a job where the interview is a raving lunatic even if the pay is ok, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 04:07 AM
0

Ok, are you going to say that about any other group with immutable characteristics? I'm not saying they're not allowed, but let's call it what it is, just nasty.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 10:44 PM
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Depends where you are. In most of Europe, nobility even if dissestablished are very well off due to entrenched power dynamics where old money looks out for old money. Even places like China, the US, have quasi-aristocratic groups, they just go by different names like Fu'erdai, old money, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 03:00 PM
7

Hmm. That's interesting. Anecdotally, what you say seems to be reflective of most women's experience. I can't speak for most men beyond myself and my anecdotal group, but with the one woman I can truly say I've fallen in love with, and felt a "spark", it was built up over time, if that makes any sense. She was good company, good personality. Nothing immediately jumped out like "WOW I can spend the rest of my life with her." Yeah. I completely get what you mean by good looking but not "attracted"…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 10:16 PM
8

And 80/20 is literally just Pareto's principle. They call it stories and fanfiction, without debunking any of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 10:09 PM
5

Yes they are. Sexual availability counts as availability. Now, sure, these guys are harder to lock down than ever, but at least women can enjoy casual sexual contact with them. Better than nothing, right? Well no. These women waste their time in a winner take all competition with 1 winner. Less attractive men feel more alienated because fewer women are showing attraction to them Perceptions on what's acceptable for attraction is wildly, wildly thrown out of wack. That's how you get party girls l…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 10:07 PM
1

OK, but this is the interesting part, and this is a tangent from OP, but why is that? I disagree with your concluding premise, I believe you absolutely can, at least past the medium term. People used to find a lot of stuff we'd view now as revolting as attractive. Despite the minueta, the majority of women should be attracted to the majority of men, and vice-versa. This might be a weird ask, but do you have any studies on hand trying to quantify what the "ick" is for women? Anything can be broke…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 09:39 PM
14

Exactly. Can we recognise this is the same insane rhetoric racists use? "Blacks are X more likely to murder you, don't they realise that non-blacks fear them?" Hell no. I'm going to treat everyone innocent until proven guilty (given me enough reason to be wary, other than generalisations about their group).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 09:20 PM
2

Lol they're not. Your definition of "Bad boy" was men who use witticisms and disagree with you. Seek help.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 09:17 PM
2

OK, that's how men talk to everyone. Welcome to equality. Except I'd expect rational people to realise this is all men, and THEN realise: Abrasive speech + actually violent tendencies is a bigger problem than talking harshly. Also how is a rebuttal bullying? If you don't want people to disagree with you, why are you on a debate sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 09:16 PM
7

Ah yes, because women never approach dangerous men, rather than white collar criminals. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybristophilia
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 09:11 PM
1

Ok, most men stop chasing. Now what. Whoops, it doesn't work, because that just means the small % that are still chasing are suddenly taking advantage of the increased female attention, because your argument assumes that a man can only chase after a small number of women. A man (or women, inversely) can easily entertain 50 talking stages, and several people on the roster. What you describe is basically what's happening in the West: https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/the-state-of-our-unions/…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 08:36 PM
2

It's almost as if that came from dehumanising racial fetish porn rather than being based in reality.
/r/seduction15/03/25 12:38 AM
9

It is a bit long to be fair, but it's also a really good write up. Nice one, ignore that guy.
/r/seduction10/03/25 05:07 PM
0

If you have no dreams other than banging girls who were toddlers when you were graduating high school, that's sad and I hope you get better.
/r/seduction10/03/25 10:18 AM
1

You literally called 18-25 the hottest. Look who's backpedalling
/r/seduction10/03/25 03:28 AM
-1

That's a lot of words to say you're a loser who's overcompensating for not having sex when you were young. You're literally just a predator. If the AoC was 14 you'd probably be saying shit like "14 year olds are the best, they're not cynical yet!!! You're a liar if you don't find them hot!" Nice projection. I'll be happy with women who are actually mature.
/r/seduction10/03/25 03:23 AM
0

Idk why people think "seduction" = getting laid any way possible without regard to morals. This guy is just a loser if he's specifically going out his way to try to fuck impressionable barely legal girls.
/r/seduction10/03/25 03:01 AM
1

Ah yes, look at all these women magically appearing as I work my IT job that's 95% men, in a remote town, where my hobbies that I enjoy are solitary and also male dominated. Agree that trying too hard is desperate and not great at finding "the right one". The opposite extreme that you espouse is nonsense as well because sometimes people do have to go out their way to find potential partners.
/r/seduction09/03/25 02:36 AM
1

Thanks, but do you mean "to take girls on a date"? Only briefly skimmed your articles, but it seems more like a wide selection of good spots to take dates, rather than where to meet people? I only saw you mentioning places to pick up students, but that's not really a vibe for some of us. Still, good list though. Classy spots
/r/seduction06/03/25 11:10 PM
8

Yeah cocktail bars are fking pricey lmao
/r/seduction01/03/25 02:52 PM
38

Don't be afraid of failure. Not every date has to lead to a relationship. Not every date should lead to a relationship. You're there to see if you're compatible. That is all. Don't think "I need to smash today". Think: is she interesting? Is she interested in me (letting me talk)? Are we compatible. If you aren't compatible, you don't lose out if you walk away without a second date. People can sense if you're trying to please. You should be authentic, and interested in them.
/r/seduction27/02/25 03:28 AM
2

What about short and non white ☠️
/r/seduction16/02/25 11:34 PM
124

Nice, got an equivalent for irl convos?
/r/seduction16/02/25 04:07 PM
7

Everyone starts from somewhere. I started at 21 and basically got into a LTR with the third(?) girl I asked out. Better 18 than 21. 21 than 25. 30 than 40. Girls have different types. You can be the best at talking to them and turning them on, but say you're white, and she's only into black dudes. You're not getting her into bed. And that's okay. Rejection is okay. Don't put women on a pedestal. They eat and shit and sleep like you. You are a customer. You had a right to take up her time. You al…
/r/seduction16/02/25 01:57 AM
3

I'm from the UK. I guess for you you'll mostly have to stick to places where there's a reason for you to speak to her, like activity clubs/events. That's fine too, I mostly do the best in that sort of environment. I've only picked up some girls from random encounters like clubs/bars/bus stops. The thing is, remember until you're in a relationship, you don't owe her anything and she doesn't owe you anything either. E.g. you can do something nice: get her flowers, but remember you're not obligated…
/r/seduction16/02/25 01:38 AM
1

Women I've gone on dates with? Can't remember, probably in the 20-30 range since I've started dating 2 years ago, and for about half that time I was seeing people exclusively.
/r/seduction16/02/25 12:17 AM
10

I've waited for a first date as well. Except she was always high interest, and I waited for maybe 20 minutes before calling her. Turns out she had the wrong date, and immediately scheduled one for the day after. For a first date, it's a respect thing. Waiting 2 hours without hearing a peep? Yeah, sucks man that you went all that way just to go back, but it's better than whatever the fuck this was.
/r/seduction15/02/25 02:00 PM
4

Have some self respect. Never beg for a date. This doesn't mean by a blackpiller and going "Women have to APPROACH ME" and refusing to ask out women. Some girls are shy, but you will know if they actually want to date you through them respecting your time, their text responses, times, etc. Wait no more than 20 minutes. Seriously, you have a lot of work to do. It's not all give and no take. If she was that late, she better be paying for the fucking Walmart drinks, and you can make this as a joke …
/r/seduction15/02/25 01:58 PM
1

Come on. There's so much potential with riding, etc even beyond the stuff the others have said about just being forward.
/r/seduction14/02/25 01:57 AM
6

I swear I've read this before.
/r/seduction11/02/25 06:07 PM
13

Dude, I don't agree with the mindset, but the rationale is there. I don't have to take a knife to the arm to know I don't like taking knives to my arm. Honestly, I'm massively introverted, and I've still asked out women, and to be honest, I've been blessed in that the worst I've gotten was a polite "sorry, not interested/I'm moving away". But I don't blame guys for being scared.
/r/seduction11/02/25 03:46 PM
3

Same cycle as all sectors. Initial boom with good days, peak user experience, and then market capture/monopoly, and an inevitable decline until something blows up the entire sector for it all to start anew again.
/r/seduction11/02/25 01:04 AM
1

You just have to remember that they're trash people despite their attractiveness. Think about it, do you really want to associate with that person even if they liked you? Just think of them as less (because they are, because they're racist). Otherwise you go crazy. Just remember to not generalise that into being all Indian girls and be racist yourself.
/r/seduction10/02/25 10:09 AM
2

Agreed, refer to my other comment. He's way too needy sounding. Like yes, being a virgin sucks if that's what you believe in. But people can smell desperation. This is something he needs to understand
/r/seduction09/02/25 10:27 PM
2

Bro Imma be straight with you. As a minority, you are going to encounter racism. This involves racism in dating. Dating is the one area where racism is still accepted - calling certain races ugly, etc. THIS CAN INVOLVE GIRLS FROM THE SAME ETHNICITY. A lot of us (minorities) have assigned whiteness and proximity to whiteness as a status symbol of how "American/Canadian/British" we are. A lot of us suffer from internalised racism. The most obvious manifestation of this is like what you described, …
/r/seduction09/02/25 10:05 PM
1

No, some people are actually just racist.
/r/seduction09/02/25 09:48 PM
1

It's a different type of emasculation I'd say. A lot of stereotypes around slavic/EE men involve them being ugly/potato looking.
/r/seduction09/02/25 06:19 PM
1

Globally speaking (aka a Western centric view)... probably Southeast/East Asia. There's a whole history to the emasculation of Asian men and the hypersexualisation of Asian women. Eastern Europe also suffers from this to a slightly lesser extent, due to being shielded by also being "white" even if it's not "Germanic white". South America probably somewhere in between, though the Latino world has a strong machismo culture which means inside the community, it's not as bad as the EE/EA/SEA problem.…
/r/seduction09/02/25 05:41 PM
0

Steroids are harmful as a rule but it's not "die at 35 for sure" unless you're blasting moronic amounts. Most people on mild doses live to about their natural age limit and you can always quit after 1/2 cycles. Again those side effects occur when you go to dosages that are clearly too high for you for the most part. I'm not advocating for it. I'm saying given he's obese and he wants to sort his weight out asap, it's an option. Not the best one, but it's up to him to decide if reaching a good wei…
/r/seduction02/02/25 02:28 PM
11

- Obese Lose weight asap. Use steroids if you don't have the discipline and are desperate - beard / hair / looks Start going to hairdressers. Pay more for advice if you don't know what's good for you. Be willing to go completely different like getting a perm or whatever, as long as it suits you. Start taking care of yourself. Showers every day without exception. Start looking into skin care/etc if you want. Get cologne/deo given your sweat problem. - no style Pay stylists/go on reddit for male f…
/r/seduction01/02/25 09:06 PM
1

Haven't been to Dublin so I can't speak to that, but ok? Still doesn't mean OP is bs'ing about London being a shithole.
/r/seduction23/01/25 03:28 PM
2

I'm a Londoner and the club scene is trash. If you haven't had people try to fight you, you were just lucky
/r/seduction23/01/25 02:55 PM
2

Interfaith marriages exist. Depends on how strict the girl's family is, how liberal she is, and whether or not they come from a more liberal sect.
/r/seduction22/01/25 04:41 PM
2

yeah from what I gathered, it's much more of an Anglosphere thing. East Asians also use social media a lot, but more heavy on the texting side rather than follower/view nonsense.
/r/seduction11/01/25 02:07 AM
1

If you don't mind me asking what are the biggest things he did that you see as him being able to connect with women?
/r/seduction28/12/24 05:49 PM
1

You can use your skills to get a wife? It's not rocket science. You use game in regular dating as well as hookups. You can just not partake in the latter.
/r/seduction26/12/24 11:02 AM
4

Exactly. There are 4 billion women in the world. Who cares if a few of them are creeped out by you as long as you're respectful? If you're respectful and they're still chimping out, you don't want to know them anyway.
/r/seduction23/12/24 05:17 PM
9

I know, I've dated a lot. But sometimes even if you're doing most of the things, it's helpful to see it all written down to refer back to.
/r/seduction20/12/24 05:55 PM
106

I don't know if it's the holiday giving you fuckers the time, but I've seen multiple GOLD posts (as well as multiple schizo posts) on this sub in the last 3/4 days. Saved. Thanks for this. It's always helpful just seeing things written out
/r/seduction20/12/24 04:40 PM
3

Just... get a gf who you find attractive? Fucking hell some people are stupid.
/r/seduction19/12/24 10:59 PM
6

That's just the cultural difference though. If there's no initial attraction, then everything else is moot.
/r/seduction17/12/24 08:30 AM
18

To be fair, LATAM men probably have the most appeal out of men generally for non-Western European groups of men.
/r/seduction17/12/24 08:19 AM
52

Yes. Some of my female friends were full on femcels. They'd be getting 5 dates a week and complaining how no man met their standards, or speak completely delusionally about themselves. Unless you need something specific from them, just drop their asses and leave. As someone who values human relationships a lot, this was hard, but my life has been much better since I've removed their negativity.
/r/seduction15/12/24 07:41 AM
7

Least schizo seddit user. I think he's trying to tell people with approach anxiety to use a coin to an adaptation mechanism so they don't pussy out.
/r/seduction08/12/24 07:47 AM
3

Or too few
/r/seduction02/12/24 07:42 AM
1

You can also fuck 14 year olds in some countries. Are we going to pretend the law is the ultimate arbiter of morality? Only losers who can't attract women their own age actively look for younger women. The reason people like you go for girls whose brains haven't stopped developing is because you didn't pull when you were younger and want to relive those years but with you in control lmao.
/r/seduction21/11/24 11:27 PM
3

Not true, I don't know how to talk to women and I've gotten laid from insta.
/r/seduction16/11/24 06:24 PM
1

Absolutely no one is suggesting that. Read what I wrote: "one of those factors". Most people get triggered at the very idea that race factors into the equation at all because it's admitting that deep down they are still affected by attitudes affected by racism. It's an uncomfortable truth, but it's one we all have to bare. It's a be all end all in the same way that being blonde excludes you from the dating pool of someone who just like red-heads. You'll still find people to date, but you are exc…
/r/seduction27/10/24 10:25 PM
0

Truths that hurt redditors too much... Attraction can be manufactured and anyone worth anything already knows this. What else are trends if not that? We have plenty of examples through history where specific body types were deemed "attractive" through media control by the affluent, where those specific body types are the opposite of what we'd call hot now. But the moment you suggest race might be one of those factors Western centric Reddit throw a hissy fit.
/r/seduction27/10/24 04:17 PM
2

This guy bars
/r/seduction21/10/24 05:42 PM
1

Yeah, but how else do we find a moment to escalate? This is all done off feels, and we only have access to one person's: our own.
/r/seduction17/10/24 03:05 AM
3

"Do you uh, want to come over and see my, er, resin table?"
/r/seduction12/10/24 11:53 PM
9

Yeah, it's a bad opener, but at least he tried, which is more than 99% of the neckbeards on here
/r/seduction12/10/24 10:13 AM
1

Have fun being weak and coping.
/r/seduction28/09/24 09:07 PM
1

Go back to touching kids /r9k/ bitch. You're not even subhuman. Your entire board is a joke. You're probably some new*** that joined 2 months ago and think you're hardcore for it.
/r/seduction28/09/24 09:06 PM
2

Nah I get that but it's gotten exponentially worse over the last week.
/r/seduction28/09/24 08:00 PM
1

Have fun with your transition sweaty.
/r/seduction28/09/24 08:00 PM
2

I am faster and stronger than you. Therefore your opinion is irrelevant. /fit/izens really are better than /r9k/tards.
/r/seduction28/09/24 07:22 PM
1

I didn't know you made up 90% of zoomer men except by mass lmao.
/r/seduction28/09/24 07:19 PM
40

WTF is the influx of incels to this sub recently? Like, I don't even care if it's incels trying to get laid, but the fucking weirdos in the comments telling other people they deserved to be raped? The fuck happened here?
/r/seduction28/09/24 02:51 PM
4

Yes. Like you.
/r/seduction27/09/24 04:55 PM
4

Post pics or GTFO. Don't think you aren't gonna be asked for receipts just because this isn't 4chan.
/r/seduction27/09/24 04:31 PM
2

"gum". Lmao sit down ret*rd.
/r/seduction27/09/24 04:29 PM
1

Fair. The only one I'm hesitant about is campuses, but the rest seem reasonable. Thanks. What's your opinion on meet up events? Oversaturated sausage fests where people are too on guard, or nah?
/r/seduction27/09/24 02:25 PM
9

Hit the gym Start talking to more women. Start with people you have a reason to talk to (shopkeepers on campus, same course, same societies, etc). Do smalltalk until comfortable Get used to the idea of failure. Get used to starting interactions about something innocuous to gauge reactions, and learn how not to be stupid when it comes to persisting. I only started dating at 22 in the summer before my last year in uni. I dated quite a bit in my final year both long and short term.
/r/seduction27/09/24 02:20 PM
4

Stupid advice, you can have both
/r/seduction27/09/24 02:17 PM
6

Nice tips, I was going to do a similar write up as someone who found successs only in their 4th and final year in uni/college. Do you have any tips on where to meet women immediately after university?
/r/seduction27/09/24 02:16 PM
3

Do you have any way of seeing if a girls open to being dmed?
/r/seduction12/09/24 05:03 PM
1

Do they tho? Icl my longest and best relationship came from just dming someone I had added some time ago when she posted a story.
/r/seduction12/09/24 03:20 PM
0

Yeah.... OP be hiding some shit lmao. They don't ban "just because".
/r/seduction11/09/24 04:13 PM
3

Same. It happens lmao.
/r/seduction11/09/24 01:06 PM
23

Yeah no bugger off paedophile. Do us all a favour and remove your predator ass off this planet.
/r/seduction30/08/24 06:34 AM
37

Wtf.
/r/seduction30/08/24 06:32 AM
12

Well my experience is definitely different as a former academia nerd who can also play the extroverted gym dude. Unless you're going after women in academia, the extroverted smooth talking gym dude works far better with 90% of women than the introvert intelligentsia.
/r/seduction19/08/24 10:43 AM
13

Nah. Maybe in circles where intellectual intelligence does translate to social status, like academia, but not really for the average woman. As long as you're not 'bag of rocks' dumb, it's a yes/no bar.
/r/seduction19/08/24 09:38 AM
2

Guys prostitution is great if you have money!!!
/r/seduction16/08/24 09:43 AM
2

Lol, if a girl's into something as shallow as a tattoo that tells me she's low value. "oh look, I have the £50 to go to a shitty parlor and have some guy put ink in my skin."
/r/seduction14/08/24 02:30 PM
5

OP is like the reason why the term sheeple was invented.
/r/seduction14/08/24 02:29 PM
3

As a Brit who's only been with non British women, this thread is both eye opening and ridiculously confusing.
/r/seduction13/08/24 05:34 PM
3

What do you usually do on dates?
/r/seduction11/08/24 08:36 PM
8

I initially down voted because it didn't seem real. FUCK like not gay or bi but damn. Yeah dstings fucked if this man is getting this tier of treatment.
/r/seduction11/08/24 08:35 PM
2

What was the post? The guy deleted it.
/r/seduction21/07/24 01:04 PM
22

Bruh wtf is this incel shit.
/r/seduction04/07/24 07:00 AM
2

I just want to do yoga because my flexibility from the gym is trash
/r/seduction10/06/24 02:01 AM
4

Like fuck I thought I was bad at social interaction. Thanks OP you fucking fuckrd fucker
/r/seduction27/05/24 10:03 AM
5

Plenty people have gotten fired for fucking their students as well what's your point.
/r/seduction24/05/24 12:15 PM
3

Do it OP. Shit works. Source: Brit whose ex was Argentinian.
/r/seduction15/05/24 10:55 PM
23

Be cordial. Even if it's a nightclub or something, you should politely exit the conversation. You aren't required to be her friend, but being cordial's the baseline.
/r/seduction11/05/24 01:41 PM
29

Ok just making sure lol. Sarcasm doesn't convey well across the screen. For what it's worth we look on them as trash from this side and mock them as well.
/r/seduction08/05/24 12:14 PM
67

Is that you making a joke about avoiding sexpests like OP? Edit: Boohoo. All the sexpats got mad and downvoted me? Keep on being low T.
/r/seduction08/05/24 11:48 AM
2

Based.
/r/seduction08/05/24 10:00 AM
8

Yeah from my experience it's a yes/no thing for women. They'll either care, or not. Just ask.
/r/seduction04/05/24 06:13 PM
1

Literally. I can't believe these mouth breathing retards exist. It's like some incel who's never spoke to a woman writing fanfic.
/r/seduction28/04/24 02:40 AM
1

Again I do just fine with con girls lol. I ain't the one who asking. Learn to read moron.
/r/seduction28/04/24 02:23 AM
8

I didn't ask bro. But I'm intrigued by how you didn't get removed from the premises by security because I've seen retards do this thinking they'll be fine, until they do it and the girls who it doesn't work with report their ass.
/r/seduction27/04/24 07:40 PM
5

Lol, what?
/r/seduction27/04/24 06:25 PM
7

Why's she getting downvoted? Women can say what works also? From this post I don't think this post is the kind of thing that women say but doesn't work.
/r/seduction20/04/24 05:40 PM
3

Good post.
/r/seduction20/04/24 05:39 PM
0

Lol STFU paedo. Most of the world has 18 as the AoC. Even if they don't, the sub 18 rules usually only apply if the partner is also sub 18.
/r/seduction16/04/24 10:57 AM
0

Yeah, those early 20 bfs were fucking creeps lol. If you're in college/uni, how much of a fucking loser do you have to be to need to date a highschooler.
/r/seduction16/04/24 10:55 AM
0

I'm 23 and the thought of dating anyone below 21 grosses me out. On principle, just completely different life stages usually. I've dated even 20 year olds and it just didn't sit right. If there was a 19 yo who genuinely has as much life experience and is also working FT? Sure, maybe. But as a rule, nahhhhh
/r/seduction16/04/24 10:55 AM
2

Yeah, inversely, just approach everyone. If you're doing your approaches right, you should have some ambiguity until you can read whether they're interested or not. You can apply this to both men and women, only you approach men to make friends.
/r/seduction14/04/24 01:47 PM
1

Cope.
/r/seduction16/02/24 06:53 AM
83

This sub is obsessed with incels lol. Everything is a blackpill in disguise. Accepting the fact shit is bad? Blackpill. Tryna improve yourself? Blackpill.
/r/seduction15/02/24 11:46 AM
5

Agree with all this except the eyebrow tats. I think that's just a it excessive. Just get them trimmed.
/r/seduction13/01/24 10:52 AM
34

Ah yes because the average guy has the personality of a slug. I'm not a fan of most people, but this sort of attitude is why people think being an average guy is a death sentence. Being average is literally ok.
/r/seduction19/09/23 05:29 PM
1

Tall. I know what tall is.
/r/seduction19/09/23 05:28 PM
1

6 times in 20 minutes? I get being forward but that's kind of ridiculous.
/r/seduction31/05/23 07:10 PM
7

That goes against just about every single study ever done on this topic.
/r/seduction12/09/22 08:33 PM
2

Why not the gym?
/r/seduction26/08/22 05:56 PM
2

men will go out of their way for women they find attractive I mean yeah, that's how attraction works.
/r/seduction25/07/22 02:17 PM
3

OP are you in the toilet asking Reddit what to do when a girl clearly wants to bang right now?
/r/seduction18/07/22 01:24 PM
5

I was in the lunch hall of my college eating a burger when I noticed a unbelievably sexy girl walk through one of the doors. She had a perfect completion and big brown eyes. She also had perfectly shaped cantaloupe sized breasts and a really well toned big rear end. r/menwritingwomen
/r/seduction22/05/22 12:44 PM
1

Small steps my man. Good for you!
/r/seduction30/04/22 04:34 PM
8

Seriously ^^. Why women feel like they can't make a move, is beyond me.
/r/seduction31/03/22 08:44 AM
21

So... the average Redditor?
/r/seduction16/01/22 02:22 PM
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