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| 43 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselves | Debate | Expensive-Amoeba-141 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 08:22 AM |
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| 1 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesFacial Cleanser: any kind will do tbh as long as it has salicylic acid. I use a gentle cleanser as I experience less dryness from it Exfoliating Toner: some people don’t believe in using toners but I swear by it. It’s done me wonders Vitamin C + Retinol Serum (only at night): just use a few drops and spread across your face 3-4x a week. Moisturizer: I’ve found this to be very dependent from person to person. Some like a thicker coat like a lotion for their moisturizer. I’m the opposite and I use… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/25 11:14 AM |
| 1 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesYou’re not wrong at all. Luck plays its role into all of this. I think of it kind of like this. You’re either born lucky (ie. Tall, handsome, rich family, etc.) and simply reap the benefits of your luck. Or you have to make your own luck. I know it seems like that’s paradoxical but I’ll explain with an analogy. Assuming general basketball knowledge is understood, after every missed shot, the ball is up in the air for a rebound. Someone who’s born lucky can stand at the 3 pt line and the ball wou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 03:33 PM |
| 1 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesI think confidence is something that’s definitely not easy to improve, because it’s something that’s completely self driven, but it’s also malleable to the thought/actions/words of others. What I mean by this is that your confidence truly derives from what you think of yourself, but it’s natural that we derive our own thoughts about ourselves from others. So in reality we can be lifted up or broken down really easily. To improve my own confidence, I decided I had to face my fears. I did it in sh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 02:59 PM |
| 3 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesThank you my friend. Glad to see someone see it through this lens. This life isn’t easy, and I do my best to not invalidate those who are struggling. But at the end of the day we have to get up and push ourselves for the things we want in this life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 02:46 PM |
| 0 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesI love that you changed yourself for the better and that you love your physique. My reasoning for this post is for those to not self sabotage themselves into not working on self improvement. I genuinely feel for those who have gone through working on themselves endlessly to no avail, I almost have no words sometimes. I can even understand you quitting and not trying anymore if you’ve exhausted your options. But I look at those who can’t say they love the way they look in the mirror (ik body dysm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 02:43 PM |
| 0 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesYou are right in the sense that I am saying “pull yourself up by the bootstraps”. But I say it in the way that those who are wallowing in sadness and are either overweight/underweight, don’t have clear skin, and need work on their dental hygiene shouldn’t be falling into that “perpetual hole of being alone forever”. There’s still so much more potential to unlock yet so many feed into their self serving bias due to their current state so they can feel better about themselves not getting what they… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 02:03 PM |
| 1 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesI can definitely agree with this. There has to be a reason why women are just doing better than men outside of dating too these days. They attend and graduate college at higher rates than men and over time that’s going to cut into the wage gap real quick. I love what you said about the gym too. It is genuinely so vital for growth in so many ways besides your muscles. It teaches discipline in such a tangible way with results that keep you going. Work hard and stay consistent? Reap your well earne… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 01:53 PM |
| 1 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesThe percents my lord. It’s funny that the numbers they use are often so pessimistic, it just reinforces my whole point that they underestimate how much working on yourself helps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 01:47 PM |
| 1 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesPart of me thinks I can, but some people in here actually can’t be saved | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 01:46 PM |
| 1 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesLove this | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 01:45 PM |
| 1 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesThat’s very true, there a huge social stigma against men and mental health issues which is so so sad. It’s always get your shit together, you’re a man. I’m a pro therapy person, was in it for 2 years and now I’ve worked through the issues I had. I hope others don’t care about the stigma and get the help they need to love themselves first, then look to give it out to others. I’m not as well versed with neurodivergence and the spectrum of autism (as some are high functioning and others aren’t) whe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 01:30 PM |
| 1 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesI think luck is a huge factor too, especially for compatibility. But looks and confidence can’t be understated imo when it comes to landing that first date. After that you do the best you can and hope they’re the one! I think my post is mainly for trying to get that first date with people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 01:26 PM |
| 1 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesAll I need to know is that there’s a chance and I’ll chase it to the world’s end. I can understand people throwing in the towel, but only after they’ve done everything they possibly could. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 01:03 PM |
| 0 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesThanks for seeing my point! Glow ups are actually so so cool. It makes you feel so good when you see the progress, and it builds so much confidence in yourself to be better in all aspects. It’s not easy, but nothing worth having in this life comes easy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 12:50 PM |
| 0 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesYou’re not wrong. I won’t push that delusion onto anyone else, I just love love. I’ll happily live in that delusional mindset till I find the one. But I don’t want anyone to quit chasing the best experience this world has to offer due to their own self serving bias. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 12:49 PM |
| 3 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesI’ve said in the thread a lot that only once you’ve really done everything you can, then you can sit and complain. I take your word that you really tried, so I can accept your complaints. But at the same time you still aren’t entitled a partner after doing all of this. I can sit here and sympathize with you till the end of time, but nothing will really happen if I just validate your feelings right? I think we just have to continue to look inside ourselves and find out what else we can do better.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 12:43 PM |
| -2 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesYep, that’s the main thing I try to push. Don’t be amongst those who self sabotage themselves into losing. Love is always going to be worth fighting for in my eyes. It’s the ultimate prize in this life, so why not give my all to find it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 12:33 PM |
| 1 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesAgreed! I think it’s just a healthier way to live life. It keeps you accountable and makes you strive to be better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 12:29 PM |
| -1 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesI think we just have to face the music and realize that this is the reality. So let’s focus on what we can do to be a top option. That’s all I want to do with this post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 11:37 AM |
| 5 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesThis is the best way, proud of you. I’m the same but I won’t lie that my initial motivation was geared towards looking better to get girls. I also don’t see it as a bad thing when it supplements your goals, but if you solely rely on that as your drive, I think you run into big issues when you get a relationship as people tend to fall off and lose all the things they worked for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 11:26 AM |
| 1 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesThanks! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 11:24 AM |
| 2 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselves5’9 at the doctors so I just say 5’10 (im very pro slightly lie about your height). East African American and my hair is curly like most people of my ethnicity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 11:23 AM |
| 3 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesYep, fully agree. Gotta tend to my audience though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 11:17 AM |
| 0 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesThis post may be an echo chamber of these type of men, but I can’t argue this viewpoint after how much I’ve typed to try and help those who think this way. It’s quite sad to see so many people give up without trying, and then blame others for their “misfortune” which is really just self inflicted at this point (barring few circumstances). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 11:12 AM |
| -1 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesI be honest I don’t even know what black pill is, but this viewpoint is lowkey scary. Of course it’s not just your decision, but you will improve your odds of being chosen by others that you desire. That’s really all that matters because it only takes one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 11:10 AM |
| 3 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesI struggle to see how the reward is “so low”. Being a better version of yourself in itself is an amazing accomplishment. It also helps you become a better dating option by increasing your attractiveness and confidence. Yes there are different starting points, but we have to take accountability and realize it’s either day one or one day. I’d say increasing the chance of finding a fulfilling partner by any amount is worth all the work in the world, but I guess that’s just me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 11:09 AM |
| 2 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesMan even you don’t believe women are only going for the 1-5%, or else there would be so many single women. And everyone claims women always have options, so let’s say realistically they all choose one of their options. They can’t all have the 1-5%. Hell not even 1-30% because it just doesn’t add up. They literally make up more of the entire world than us. I can’t sit here and tell you the average man does have a chance because you wouldn’t believe it. So be above average. I’m not saying be super… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 11:03 AM |
| 1 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesI’ll tango with the devil I’d say for that first point, overweight women really don’t have that many suitors. I know that they probably have more options than overweight men but in all honestly they have it pretty bad too. You always see the jokes where they have hot friends and they are basically the “linemen” that defend against any men hitting on their friends because they get no attention themselves. The second point is true tbh, but women honestly undermine attraction sometimes to make othe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 10:55 AM |
| 0 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesYour right. Just a bit disheartened to see the negativity and self deprecation be this grand but I got to remember it’s just the people here most likely. Rest of us in real life are going to just keep on keeping on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 10:46 AM |
| 0 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesWell let’s do some introspection to see what they liked about your “loser” phase (not a fan of that terminology but I’ll go with it). It’s been a long time since then, you’ve changed. We need to see what changed to compare your current self that’s struggling and ID what was making you likable back then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 10:36 AM |
| -3 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesSeriously man, why be average. Like honest to god. I’m with all realism in aspects like a 5’0 tall man. My heart is out to them honestly. And I don’t know about you specifically but why would anyone settle to be average when you claim to so desperately be wanted by the other sex. Maybe it’s laziness or entitlement, but this mindset kinda makes me mad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 10:33 AM |
| 0 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesMan I was actually starting to lose hope in finding someone with the same mindset. I feel like it’s a testament to the fact that there’s not even that much competition. Out of all the commenters, there’s like a tiny handful that are confident in themselves or are actively working on themselves to reach that. And when we all find a loving partner we find attractive, they are just going to sit back and say we are lucky when they could just join us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 10:28 AM |
| 3 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesI think that’s true. I did try to give a different suggestion with a climbers gym (have always heard great things but don’t go myself) so that’s not really me pushing something I like onto others. I also play soccer (not as much as I wish I could) but it’s a fun active past time that will really only lead to weight loss if you’re eating well. With the job analogy you brought up, I’d argue more people with a lucrative job don’t really enjoy what they do, but they enjoy the money it gives them to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 10:18 AM |
| 1 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesI’m a little lost by social deficits if you could please explain that further. As for neurodivergence, that’s not a gendered issue but I do see where those people struggle as men are typically the ones who pursue. Maybe a neurodivergent woman can help here but I don’t want to work out of my depth here so I give my heart out to those who’s brain have a little “spice” to them. I mentioned height in another comment but it’s really just about being taller than the girl. You can flat out lie if you n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 10:11 AM |
| -1 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesWhat do you mean by face? If you have a lot of facial fat, then of course the gym can help. Some people genetically do just hold more fat there, but you’ll definitely be able to lose a double chin if you have one and slim down your cheeks to an extent. But I also heavily preach skin care. Like big time. It’s so so important and it’s genderless but for some reason a guy will call me gay for using an exfoliating toner while they have pimples across their head. I’m not shaming anyone with acne and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 10:06 AM |
| 3 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesRight! Even in my own life I can just see so much potential in so many people that’s wasted because they think for some reason they’re perpetually doomed. It’s never too late to turn it around though, and I try to preach it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 09:58 AM |
| 5 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesThat’s fine if you’re happy with the way you look. I’d honestly recommend a climbers gym to try and combine the two things together. That sense of accomplishment can come from reach the top of difficult walls, and those guys can walk into gyms and outlift some of the biggest meat heads I know. You get really toned and I think you might get that sense of fulfillment from what you described. Also a lot of the accomplishment feeling comes overtime, because not many things bring such explicit tangib… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 09:55 AM |
| 1 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesIdk if I agree about the gym aspect of what you said. They do look wider/boxy once they put on a lot of muscle, but they also can lift for like a year and look 100x better than someone who’s 6’5 that’s done the same thing as them. I agree that a lot of women these days do want a man taller than them, that’s undeniable. But we also overly obsess on that 6’0 number so much. Girls especially. I’ve told really short girls (like 4’11-5’1) as a joke I’m 6’ and they just believe it because nobody can r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 09:47 AM |
| 1 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesThen to be quite honest you just have to realize that you don’t want it enough then. I don’t know why people feel so entitled to having a loving relationship without bringing anything to the table. And I know you’re going to mention women can do nothing and get in one but how often do you see women enraged at men for being shit, worthless, etc. Nothing in this life that’s really valuable comes easy, outside of those who got lucky. And if you aren’t lucky like the most of us, you gotta work. So e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 09:34 AM |
| 1 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesOk but you have to realize that people literally aren’t raising the floor. I’m not saying you personally but so many people have adopted this mindset of hopelessness and cope with a new thing every day. You have such a great chance right now with how many people feel hopeless to propel yourself up the ranks, so just do it and then complain after you’ve done everything you can. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 09:30 AM |
| 3 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesYep, that’s the attitude I really preach but I’m not sure if this is the audience for that tbh. I really want to promote the gym and if they find motivation in trying to get girls, that’s fine by me tbh. The reason I really don’t like that being the sole motivation is that once you land one, typically people get complacent when that’s all they did it for and lose their body. Then they get blindsided when their wives start falling out of love, but that’s for another day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 09:26 AM |
| 5 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesI’m sorry you feel this way about the gym. It should be an open and welcoming place for all people. Did you have a bad experience when you tried to go to one that soured your opinion on it? It’s good that you like sports please keep playing! But also it’s a great thing to use the gym to hit your fitness goals and improve your body. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 09:24 AM |
| 1 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesBut do you see how this is the mindset that leads us nowhere? Even with women having more options without doing the things I listed above, it doesn’t change the fact that you can become a viable option for them, right? You and I can’t keep blaming those around us, especially when we like them and want to be with them (women). We just need to do what we can to make ourselves a better option. That’s it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 09:13 AM |
| 5 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesHmm, why do you think they don’t work? Genuinely curious as to how improving your looks, confidence, and base levels of standards lead to being at a worse place after all that work tbh. You aren’t entitled to get girls after doing these things but you will have a hell of a better chance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 09:07 AM |
| 1 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesIf possible, could you maybe expand on this? I just want to see what you mean out of pure curiosity, I think you might have a solid point. The “gender war” seems to be very real, especially online. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 09:05 AM |
| 2 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesI’d like to ask about some of the barriers you may face, and maybe if I could try to give some advice. I just love working out in general and work in healthcare, but I do understand there are some legit barriers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 09:01 AM |
| 2 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesThanks, I appreciate this! I’m a huge believe in trying your absolute best to eliminate the external locus of control mindset in life. Once you can admit you’ve done everything in your power to create change, then I’ll allow you to complain about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 09:00 AM |
| 3 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesYep, I’ve grown to realize that so many people who type here religiously literally don’t get up and start to make the change. And I bet over half of the people who do don’t ever come back to this app because they are reaping the benefits. It’s the bare minimum for yourself and completely attainable outside rare circumstances. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 08:49 AM |
| 5 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesGlad to see you’re improving! I’m a huge believer in the gym and it’s kinda changed my life. Looking good for girls can be a solid motivation at the start, but if you start to do it for yourself you’ll grow in so many ways. Keep going! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 08:47 AM |
| 0 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselves5’9 at the doctors office so I just say 5’10 tbh. I probably am when I have shoes on. When you say dressing better, what do you mean by that? Because if you don’t feel confident in your clothes then tbh it doesn’t matter how “conventional” or in style they are. At least that was my experience until I found what really worked for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 08:43 AM |
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