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OP isn't advocating for this you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 03:37 PM
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It does relate; you're saying "it's just fantasy so it doesn't count" but many of your type look at those same fantasies and say "see women want this"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 01:45 AM
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That's a knee jerk reaction if i've seen one. Looks like you don't care about women getting raped for the sake of virtue-signalling?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 01:44 AM
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Neither are men irl all gigachads and yet women still date average men Are you the same person who uses fantasies of SA against women to say they like aggressive and nonconsensual actions
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 10:49 PM
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You're saying that race=culture here and that people with certain physical characteristics associated with it are inherently a certain way. But with men they inherently tend to be a certain way. The same could be said of white men in colonial times from the perspective of natives
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 10:47 PM
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Women can be attracted to "feminine" qualities Why do you think so many men in romance media can open up and show their emotions
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 10:13 PM
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You can go tell that to girls in western europe who get raped by middle easter immigrants And with women, at least a woman has a fighting chance. Not often with men. We have to discriminate to live our lives safely.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 10:06 PM
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you think getting raped and abused is self inflicted?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 09:52 PM
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Huh? Of course when out alone at night you'd be more wary of a certain population if they're more violent and crime committing. That's common sense. It's just strange that in the case of men, you can rule out factors like poverty, culture, race... because it happens all the time everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 09:32 PM
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A suicide attempt is when people harm themselves with the goal of ending their life, but they do not die. It's a meaningless metric, your 16 that cut her arms will enter on the same number as someone that almost overdosed on meds. Cutting your wrists is dangerous that's included Most of voters are women, they also hold most of the power to convert votes. Government that throw men in the meat grinder is chosen by women. what a moronic take, women haven't been able to have say in politics for most…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 09:29 PM
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When women say that we are competing with the peace of their solitude it is a value judgement on men everywhere. The implication of the statement is that we(men) are so shitty that it is better for them to be alone. L take. Even if men were the most romantic, good-looking, sexy beasts that could protect and provide, individual women don't have to be with them and can and should be content by themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 09:23 PM
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Simple observations aren't patriarchal
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 09:21 PM
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Black people don't rape and murder across time period and culture disproportionate to white people. It's amazing, the lengths men go to deny how intrinsically more violent they are compared to women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 09:20 PM
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what is "truly kind" and what is "some degree of asshole"?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 05:50 PM
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Yeah I don't care personally, there's too much to care about. Interesting that you men never advocate for men's suicide rates and depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 07:33 PM
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You're telling me you agree with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 07:31 PM
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Women attempt more suicide, How are health services disadvantaging men, war is a male problem go advocate for peace and less oil greed, women are more vulnerable when homeless so not shit they need more protection and help, and men dropping out of school isn't women's problem lol. Women didn't do anything. And women pay taxes too, there are way less stay at home dads than stay at home mothers, and more elderly are female. It's important to focus on women because historically they have been disad…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 07:30 PM
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The "choking" you're referring to is stangulation. You're not shoving a toy solider down their windpipe. You're constricting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 07:25 PM
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Marriage is risky I agree but I'm happy that women can choose to divorce. Prevents a lot of abusive marriage. Why not LTR outside of marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 05:25 PM
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Strangulation isn't manhandling it's assault If that's your experience, good for you, but i'm telling you that's not my or many other's experience. And then you say "women just want to deny reality" well i can say the same thing about you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 05:23 PM
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Women aren't a monolith not everyone believes all bodies are beautiful lol get off of Instagram ​ what the hell does this have to do with equality
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:57 PM
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Do age gaps tend to get married in the first place though? Could be a fling I mean a good healthy relationship where both parties are content is possible but highly unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:56 PM
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I can just say the same thing. Countless testimony from women and porn infected men. You think women wanted to be strangled 50 years ago?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:55 PM
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Being pressured doesnt mean you have to do anything. Men have those same pressures too, but not every man takes steroids or does plastic surgery or other looksmaxing stuff. Even going to the gym is not something every man does. We have pressures too but we simply dont let it bother us enough to be exploited by it. that's because men's worth is based of their actions. While women is based on looks. That doesnt account for the 70-30 consumption gap. There are entire industries that exist because o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:54 PM
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It's oppression when women are expected to do this, sometimes things like high heels required in many workplaces, and men aren't. Why do women need restrictive and harmful accessories? Why are those things feminine?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:45 PM
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High standards by women who want a date, not other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:44 PM
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Abolitionists don't complain about sweatshops because that's not the focus of advocacy, way to dilute the issue I'm gonna need a source for you sex trafficking being a small part of human trafficking
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:38 PM
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"misandrist Nordic model" How in the everloving fuck is it misandrist goddamn
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:36 PM
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sounds like birth control
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:36 PM
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What the hell are you talking about Women aren't oppressing men by having jobs
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:34 PM
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Agreed. Why did nature screw us over and make us birth equal amounts of boys and girls
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:31 PM
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It's not murder as legally defined and selfishness isn't inherently bad
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:29 PM
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Well youth being a preference can be concerning for LTR's in that, are you going to leave her or cheat on her once she gets old and her body worn from childbirth and pregnancy? This is a risk associated with age gaps
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:27 PM
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You're the one glorifying men getting stuff done through suicide, male.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:14 PM
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You think men would choke women during sex before today's porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:13 PM
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Is it women who pressure men into marriage or the other way around? For instance, consider how in Japan women are seen as hags if they don't marry before 25. Consider how often women have been pressured into kids. And why is divorce a ba thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 06:13 PM
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Why is suicide and violence something that should "get done"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 06:11 PM
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have you considered that women are driven out of physically demanding jobs like construction through harassment of the mostly male demographic? Moat of the above work is necessary to society. You dont have a society without the builders and soldiers that maintain and defend society. Women might be less efficient but that doesn't mean they shouldn't do those jobs. That's how they can be useful to society. So if there was equal participation in that kind of work, why would men still be above women…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 06:10 PM
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Ok with a shitty explanation like that, why don't I say men commit suicide more because they're the more violent sex who can't resolve their problems without violence? You literally can't come up with a refutation for my other points lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:16 PM
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You think the women gangraped in Africa to the point where they have fistulas kill themselves for attention? No they're resilient and keep living even when excluded from their communities for smelling bad from the incontinence. You have no idea how strong women are
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:14 PM
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I wouldn't know about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:13 PM
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Anyone can use you for sex. Not just these mystical "dark triad" men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:13 PM
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Your personal experience isn't proof
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:11 PM
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I don't care about age gaps I care about not taking advantage of poor people. Who do you think is in a better position to get manipulated, a poor uneducated woman or an educated city woman? And lol, way to make assumptions about me, if you weren't just generalizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:09 PM
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Wow just wow. Way to be completely tone deaf. Women don't live comfortable lives, they still have to work their asses off in domestic work and kids and even getting a job themselves because domestic work is economically worthless. Women are driven out of mines through sexual abuse Men create war and terrorism Why do you focus on "well they get sympathy" when women are often murdered in third world countries for being raped "she asked for it" is a phrase for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:08 PM
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Agree to disagree. This is just throwing opinions past each other
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:05 PM
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I mean sure, if they want. All I care about is women having freedom from being shackled to a man
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:04 PM
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Come back when women commit most violent crime and war
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:03 PM
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There is no power imbalance. Just associated risks to the point that I doubt a healthy romance is possible in real life (fiction can make it work lol). I don't think they're inherently bad though. It's a romantic idea, a younger woman and an older man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 12:34 AM
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that person is right though. Why are you surprised when people are concerned for poor uneducated people? that's not paternalism that's moral concern
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 12:31 AM
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Based incredibly based
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 12:30 AM
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Because evolutionarily, that IS what determines success -- Did you or did you not leave behind progency? Also, because you insisted that it was easy for a man to get a wife when we have genetic data that IT WAS NOT. Evolution does not determine morality or way of life or values. If you want to make that your definition of success that's your problem lol. It's literally only in the last 100 or so years that you even have the privilege of saying that. For most of human history, if you didn't repro…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 12:19 AM
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Women attempt suicide more, are driven out of jobs where they can get occupational injuries, men cause war, men cause violent crime, it's not women's fault that men get lower university admissions when men have succeeded in academia for millenia with no problem lol, women work more unpaid hours in domestic labor, it's not women's fault or responsibility that men can't get a girlfriend, (lmao you added "dating challenges" to make your paragraph seem longer when I already acknowledged that), women…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 12:08 AM
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That's not a choice if it's on the man's part, too... not every man wants a LTR. If you want a LTR then say so upfront, don't leave once you had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 12:04 AM
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I know you made your argument against it. I'm pretty sure I read your comment correctly even if I do have ADHD. I'm just puzzled that you thought I was talking about men only, and I wasn't. Women should be the gatekeepers of sex so I'm puzzled by why so many women are into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 09:55 PM
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"stop trying to act like men" You mean in providing for yourself? It's pretty dangerous to be reliant on a man for income. And feminism isn't a monolith.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 09:53 PM
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Redpill: It's creepy for ugly men to approach but not for conventionally attractive men. Women have it better than men when it comes to dating Bluepill: Society isn't "gynocentric" Women still have the cards stacked against them in many subtle ways in first world countries (media portrayals, expectations to wear makeup/high heels, porn being misogynistic) and are still oppressed (hello, abortion rights?) This is what I can think of atm
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 09:48 PM
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Women and feminists aren't a monolith
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 09:38 PM
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Yeah, so women still have troubles in the dating world. How would you like it if I dismissed men's suicide rates because women have it worse all across the board?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 09:36 PM
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I'm just your friendly local prude.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 09:34 PM
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Good for you, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 09:34 PM
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A stat about men being violent is never cherry picked. Show me something to the contrary then, or offer a convincing explanation that doesn't show that men are inherently more violent than women. It's basic knowledge that violence tends to be male violence. So why is it bad that men get destroyed in divorce courts? When women are the primary caregiver anyway? "The Guardian" isn't a radfem source lol. It's not villainizing to describe reality. That's you being sensitive. Radfems donate to organiz…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 09:27 PM
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Why did you extrapolate my comment to mean that I was talking about men only? There are plenty of women who like casual sex. Isn't that the hook up culture people keep complaining about?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 09:19 PM
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How is wanting a partner you're attracted to hypergamy? That's not dating up that's basic compatibility. And I wouldn't know about how women generally act, and neither do you. Most 20 year old women aren't spoiled college partyers. And yeah I agree that you won't find romance by being too choosy. I am too choosy because I have certain values. But I am also content by myself. Also these "trash men" often show their true colors after marriage, after pregnancy, after having the baby. When they thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 04:50 PM
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True but I gave up because I literally can't argue with that. Maybe it just so happens that he lives in a Mean Girls setting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 04:39 PM
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You get the opportunity to be used for sex, yes, but not always for an actual meaningful relationship. You think we have it better because you value sex and just sex so much. Are you saying we can use sex to build better relationships? How idealistic and soap-opera worthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 04:37 PM
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Why is difficulty of life measured by success in reproduction for you? Women reproduce mostly even if they don't want to. You think all those encounters were consensual or not societally pressured in some way? That's no way to live a life. And uh, women did perform backbreaking labor. You think they stayed at home and chilled all day? Lmaoooo. What kind of dirty work are you referring to? Anything a man did, a woman was expected to do too otherwise they're dead weight. And women are the primary …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 04:35 PM
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Yeah so people should want sex less frequently. I've always been puzzled by those who want it so often.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 04:30 PM
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Not the experience of many women and even girls who get strangled without their consent because of porn addict men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 04:29 PM
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A combination of traits others find attractive I wouldn't necessarily associate with an ideal partner even if I might find that attractive on a surface level.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 04:28 PM
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There are guys I find attractive who I don't think would hurt me. I'm not one of your little characters in your carefully constructed narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 04:26 PM
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I'd agree with you, but unfortunately in this patriarchal society women also do extreme things to get the attention of men (that's why there this "pick me" culture and how women disproportionately get cosmetic surgery and implants). On a more normalized note, there's also the prevalence of makeup which is even necessary to be successful in careers and job interviews.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 04:25 PM
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huh? Did I say that? Your question seems a little misleading, so I'll clarify by saying that this isn't the case in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 04:23 PM
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That's true, but only if you want a roommate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 01:34 AM
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It was poor way of saying that even traits considered attractive I associate with certain crowds.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 01:07 AM
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Yeah that's strange too. I wonder what the explanation for that could be. And yeah of course it's a problem that men feel discouraged from college, but also we should encourage trade schools and other ways of living too. It benefits both women and men for college to not be so oversaturated and for the degrees to have more worth
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 12:16 AM
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i get it, perhaps i was reading too much into what you were saying. can't argue against personal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:16 PM
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I'm not saying women shouldn't care about men's problems i'm saying women are in a worse position because their problems are caused by men forcing their opinions and oftentimes their bodies on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:15 PM
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Don't women compete with men's personal happiness and contentment without a romantic partner to some degree?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:13 PM
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what i'm getting at is, what do you expect that to look like? isn't not harming you or being inconsiderate of things like your personal space enough in a public space? and why do you feel women in particular disregard that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 09:18 PM
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all i said was that more women than men are content being single, not that most women are single. men have to compete with women's peace being by themselves. so when women complain of shitty dating options maybe they're telling the truth, because most people aren't "average." we all have our own problems influenced by the shitty society we live in. for example, take porn. for many women the consumption of it is a dealbreaker. so when too many men watch porn in this society of course the less-tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 09:10 PM
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With the many advancements in women's rights more woman than men prefer to be single because that's how they want to live their lives. It's that simple. Not that men are trash partners (but the women centered subreddits are pretty depressing on that respect).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 09:03 PM
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perhaps women just do better than men in school for some reason. men and boys had no problem with it for the past few millenia, just that women do better. that's not "gynocentricism" that's women excelling when the playing field is levelled. also women only colleges exist...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 09:02 PM
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don't you regard every stranger as a tool or background object to some degree? so why unfairly expect women to treat you personally (or other strangers) like someone they should treat deliberately? Your idea of what it means to "value" someone might border on something more self-sacrificing than what is realistically possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 09:00 PM
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Certain facial traits you can definitely associate with an undesirable lifestyle and that's what I tend to do so not exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:56 PM
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Romance includes sexual attraction and too many men just aren't attractive (or society primes us to see women as more sexually appealing than men through advertising and media, which is another deeper discussion) And also today's family structure just isn't sustainable. Men don't pull their weight with kids and women are often isolated and frustrated dealing with all of that by themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:55 PM
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just because you don't want to date someone doesn't mean you think they're a piece of trash. it's about if it's worth adding that person to your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:52 PM
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men industrialized civilization and made wars. male problems are their own. women's problems are caused by men. like a lack of rights and physical violence like sexual abuse
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:51 PM
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What is male sexuality? How do you know what that is aside from external influences? Anyway I think women should be the ones to approach out of the blue because women should be the choosers. But the most romantic ideal scenario is falling in love/crush through mutual friends and hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:44 PM
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Ok but the point is there are women who don't want to be approached even by hot men. You need the social awareness there to back off.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:43 PM
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Are you talking about sex? Because that's the only way this can apply since the dating pool for women just isn't good. Anyway, sex isn't something you "win." A good chunk of us want to feel intimacy through sex not pump and dump like you guys
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:39 PM
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Of course it's easy for you to say that...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:38 PM
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ambivalence? what do you mean? what exactly are you expecting?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:35 PM
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how is education "gynocentric" when men and boys have been doing well being in and running in school for millenia
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:33 PM
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Nothing to do with radical or liberal. It's just that there are metaphysical issues to consider
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:29 PM
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Individuals of a group aren't "out to get" someone but collectively as a group as a class one holds more power over the other. history shows that
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 06:53 PM
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i wasn't tlaking about chid rearing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:55 PM
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did i say that? is any of that relavant to the context of my statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:55 PM
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Bias aside, men's problems aren't caused by women enforcing or oppressing them. their problems are caused by women's lack of doing anything with them lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:54 PM
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true. if only humans naturally had a gender ratio that produced more women than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:53 PM
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exceptions don't prove the rule especially when the "exception" is formed in the context of an already patriarchal society.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:51 PM
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does staying together make a family healthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:50 PM
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men are more capable than women at what? at which work? and what kind of work is more valuable to a healthy, sustainable society? does being physically stronger mean you're better and thus have more worth? what about raising children and carrying them and sacrificing your body to that end? and even if women are physically weaker they still do tons of manual labor
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:49 PM
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uh no it doesn't? they could get wives pretty easily while women had largely no say in the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:46 PM
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men don't care about the autonomy and individuality of people other than themselves either lol what's your point and men create war not women
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 07:36 PM
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it's not the same suffering, women had it worse. women's problems are caused by men, so it's completely warranted to do what you interpret as villifying
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 07:22 PM
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the ideal is a healthy family, not a family that stays together.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 07:20 PM
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marriage and kids is more risky for women, they are the primary caregivers and devote their lives and lose their sense of self to that end
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 07:19 PM
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the point is that life itself is disproportionately against women where men are guaranteed orgasm and then the woman goes and has 10 kids that can't be healthy. now that I have these resources that generations of people have worked hard to ensure, i can look back on it all and ask if life itself is really something that meaningful and worth it if it's that stacked against women
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 07:16 PM
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compared to women, no they aren't
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 07:13 PM
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the point is that comment was unwarranted
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 07:12 PM
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r/MenAndFemales
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 07:04 PM
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biologically egg is more coveted than sperm so yeah men are disposable in that sense
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 06:56 PM
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men create war lmao. the government isn't an alien entity
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 06:55 PM
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I don't think the government should steer people away from certain ideologies (that can easily apply to ideologies I agree with) but I do think manosphere philosophy can be damaging to relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 06:54 PM
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What's "better"? Does earning more money make you a person with more worth? Then you extrapolate that to mean women want men who are "better" than them, no, that solely has to do with providing, which has no bearing on worth. Your reasoning is extremely flawed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 06:50 PM
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having children is not a right.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 06:49 PM
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Feminists aren't a monolith
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 06:47 PM
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Sure and I don't really care because men have more historical baggage behind their actions
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 06:32 PM
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What's "being a father" if not providing for the family like men like to parade around and idolize? Likewise what's being a mother if not nurturing and raising your children? It's not like men tend to particularly value fatherhood as you describe it. >how is this relevant Because at the end of the day women don't want to have many children because of the toll it takes on the body. Good health care and benefits make it more worthwhile, is probably what I meant, and would increase quality of life.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 02:18 PM
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I don't have practical reasons for why they're bad. I just personally think they're morally wrong, although there might be practical, society altering effects I can't quite articulate. It's all relative. I criticize promiscuity in men, too, by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 02:15 PM
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Working for money is part of being a father, what's all this "breadwinner" and "providing for the family" i keep hearing about?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 02:13 PM
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I'm saying that men act out more often, not that they get angry more often. And a study, none of which you provided, isn't a marker of individual behavior either. And men statistically commit most violent crime, I'd say that's a valid marker of lack of emotional control of a group. Sure most men don't commit those horrible crimes so it's not exactly fair, but why is it that women don't do the same even with the same access to guns? Guns are said to be "the great equalizer" so it's not like women…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 02:12 PM
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When was fatherhood valuable and compensated for? With money when they get a wage. Women's work is unpaid and considered inferior. It's not a respected position. How do you explain Sweden, having the greatest maternal care and one of the most equalitary country in the world the same fertility rates than US? Because all across the board when you give women choice they choose to have fewer or no children. And why would they? It takes a large toll on the body. Yes I sound contradictiory, but the ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 02:15 AM
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For divorce, do you think that a couple should stick it through no matter what if they have problems? How do you know when people are just incompatible? Or should people just delay marriage to make wiser decisions (the most likely outcome)? Everything else, you seem to just hang out in the wrong spaces :P
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 02:11 AM
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Facts, radfems unite
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 10:48 PM
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Just for fun I'll list these Agree: decoupling sex from romance is bad, advocation of prostitution is bad, undermining negative emotions in men is bad, romanticizing female promiscuity is bad ??? (does this happen/ what is this?): reduce romance in media, getting upset that male and female leads fall in love, obsession with divorce, obsession with subverting expectation pushing for male and female friendship Not all feminism agrees with prostitution and the like, that's liberal feminism. There's…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 10:48 PM
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You people think getting the right to vote and get loans = equality, lol it's a lot more than that Because motherhood isn't seen as valuable or as something to be compensated for, less women in this society are having children. You tell me if that is what really does more harm than good not a handful on weirdos on Twitter and Tumblr
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 10:43 PM
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You're being a moron. For this argument I don't care who is more neurotic, that's a vague, archaic term that can mean anything. I care that you said women have less emotional control. I provided examples to the contrary and you just go "oh you wimmins abuse too" yeah like no shit Why is it that most women would trust a woman with their child and not a man? Sure the female of most species, under stress, will kill their own children, but not nearly as much the children of others. Plus they're not …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 10:36 PM
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I mean sure you don't have to sacrifice for a child that isn't yours but in a "it takes a village to raise a child" model where you do the same for everyone else to some degree it's much better for health and happiness outcomes. Granted in this current society it's impossible and we will spur ourselves on to destruction
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 10:30 PM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:39 PM
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I was going to argue against you but then I read your second paragraph. Mothers should definitely be treated better for the heavy sacrifices they make with their bodies. Nevertheless it's just better when women have the choice to have less children. There were never supposed to be this many people on the planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:36 PM
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Lovely, new friends
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:34 PM
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What kinds of groups are you hanging out with? My advice is to like, not do that. Oh and stay off of TikTok.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:33 PM
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Your one hyper-specific scenario or deep-set female and male socialization, which one is more likely I wonder?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:31 PM
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Holy shit how do these people live in a world where 50% of the population is the opposite sex? Or they got to be trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:31 PM
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Why are you like this? Why don't you think about how men are socialized to be lazy and not look for better options?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:30 PM
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You can't just run out on a fucking child. No wonder single moms and deadbeat dads are a thing lmao. You people don't want to admit that relationships with men are much more risky than the other way around
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:28 PM
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Tell that to certain Native American groups where men didn't care who the father was and children were raised by the village. Not every society has your view. I'm not saying to adopt all aspects of past ways of life but current ways are clearly unsustainable and soul-draining.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:26 PM
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Besides trafficking, coercion, and having no other choice, there's this sexual liberation movement that says it's "empowering" to do all this, when in reality the only group being benefitted is men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:24 PM
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You're not asking yourself, assuming that this is true, why these things are. Women living in patriarchal societies that are against them in every way are of course going to be mentally disordered to some degree. After all, it is no measure of health to be well in a fundamentally sick society. Also neuroticism isn't about emotional control. My examples about men acting out and being violent shows fully their lack of emotional control. I get that you, as a man, can't accept that, and that millenn…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:22 PM
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Because they like it. Same reason why 1st world society doesn't quit their unsustainable lifestyle and go more green even if it means consuming less. Such a self-serving outlook will lead to destruction.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 01:10 AM
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I see. Your view is admirable, even if I disagree in some areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 01:08 AM
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I'm saying that they're not EQUALLY evil. It's cope to think otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 11:28 PM
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Yeah sure, I have nothing against that. But are you only attracted to 22 year olds? Are you monogamous? Would you still be with a woman all her life until she gets old and her body worn by childbirth? Also birthrates are falling because the world is overpopulated and shit and naturally when given choice women don't want so much children.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 11:26 PM
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If that's what you got out of that then too bad for you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 11:22 PM
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You think pregnant deer and cats need to perform for males in their vulnerable state lol? Women can rely on other women for protection from the elements and predators. That's how it should work, while men support everyone. But now it's all different and we have shit like the nuclear family
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 11:21 PM
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I mean that it's sad, and more sad that people deny this and try not to recognize this
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 11:19 PM
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Some spoiled women who decide who they can have sex with isn't ruining society. It's much worse for women to not decide who to get married to. It's all postmodernism's fault for not maintaining good values and having a society where women have rights and ability to choose
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 11:18 PM
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Lmao. Even if that's true it's domestic violence only. And violence can mean anything to men, meanwhile women have always gotten severely beat and raped by husbands. Women have every reason to fear catcallers, men walking on the sidewalk alone at night, being alone with them...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:56 PM
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shit i just looked it up i am a fool among fools, time to change it could have sworn it meant something FDS aligned
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:33 PM
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Not really lol. Have you read any news?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:31 PM
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Exactly >.>
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:30 PM
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Society I guess. Still stuck in romantic yet backwards notions of "men should approach"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:30 PM
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I don't agree with that. I don't modify myself. a potential partner shouldn't either I could have gotten jaw surgery but no.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 03:14 PM
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If that's true then good. Women should approach not men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 02:16 PM
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I disagree with calling male sexuality unhealthy and all the other extreme things you say but I do think in this society sexuality in general is unhealthy. It's the porn. Quit the porn But there are women who promote this shit so... damn. what a broken world
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 02:16 PM
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They don't. Major cope
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 02:13 PM
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14 year olds aren't fertile and will die in childbirth, if that's what you're referring to
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 02:13 PM
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You people act like shallow, spoiled college girls are all that exist Of course you'd complain if you only want the "better" ones. Join a nerdy club and spot the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 02:09 PM
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They didn't organize monogamy they organized marriage That is to control women, who are supposed to be the choosers, but now we're supposed to perform by looking pretty. Men are supposed to be the ones who look pretty and flash us their assets
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 02:08 PM
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I question the integrity of that study then. How are men not more neurotic if they shoot up schools for a lack of getting women and burst out in fits of violence and anger when provoked? And cause wars globally and fights locally?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 02:06 PM
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It's bad, true, but a man yelling at a child, yeah intuitively he'd more likely resort to aggression or shaking. Women can kill their offspring as is common in nature but they're the more nurturing ones, so less likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 02:04 PM
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Facts
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 02:02 PM
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Strange how men don't see women as a threat but women see men as a threat
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 02:02 PM
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Your link doesn't work. "Rare" cases don't prove your argument. Also men rape little children and babies, I think that's exponentially worse than statutory rape, the rape you reference women do (though teachers definitely shouldn't be getting it on with their minor students, don't get me wrong). Moreover you're not taking into account the historical baggage. For millenia women have been oppressed by men and denied rights and subject to all sorts of harmful beliefs and practices, and now that we …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:58 PM
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Who cares what he says? Are you saying segregated bathrooms makes you lose freedom and security?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:54 PM
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Yeah :/ men just make it worse for themselves don't they
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:53 PM
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Because incel guys often hold misogynistic beliefs and tend to not be attractive lol And personally I don't need a romantic/sexual relationship to be content. That's a lie sold by years of programming
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 08:40 PM
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Not if you're separating for the explicit purpose of safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 08:35 PM
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My bad, it was an attempt to express in a concise manner how pointless the dating scene seems, and so listing any standards would also be meaningless because I have no idea what these relationships between men and women should look like and what would make me happy and content in life (well of course both sides should be happy but it's likely that I'm better off single).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 02:52 AM
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Uhh that's not a perspective that completely registers for me. Why date if you're not looking for something?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:43 PM
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Even so the people here can get hyperfocused
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:42 PM
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Maybe so, i'm just emphasizing that this isn't the norm
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:37 PM
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I could easily say that's because other men are more aggressive and thus initiate more conflicts with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:17 PM
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Because it shows you have the audacity to make a woman feel uncomfortable, indicate your attraction in an inappropriate place, and not care about that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 10:37 PM
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Yeah no many women want someone who's a good person and who they're attracted to (like me). But i don't deny many think with their pussies ​ Still think men think more with their dicks though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 10:34 PM
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I'd rather be single
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 10:31 PM
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Nobody said anything about "proportion" it's just that men are generally more aggressive and commit most violent crime. Men aren't conditioned to avoid violence against women, tell that to the female victims of every war ever getting raped and used as broodmares
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 10:29 PM
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It should be the women asking out men Women are the choosers and this would prevent much harassment from men (who are expected to approach)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 10:22 PM
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Why don't men share themselves in the same way? Makeup in a vacuum should be fine but unfortunately none of our choices happen in a vacuum and it's not to women's benefit to waste so much of our money and time on often toxic products that cause breakouts and to perpetuate the idea of makeup as feminine and desireable. Hence why I choose not to participate in this
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 10:19 PM
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Uhh that would just seem pathetic honestly. I don't try to pretend I have bigger breasts so it's fair to expect that the other party doesn't pretend either.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 10:11 PM
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We were talking about crime and you were the one who brought up "providing." Men don't commit crime to provide, that's the point
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 09:26 PM
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That may be true but so what?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 09:13 PM
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When feminists talk about "patriarchy" they're not talking about which gender takes up which positions they're talking about this deep-seated dismissal and bias against women's interests which can really only be described as "hatred"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 08:40 PM
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Orgasms aren't the only factor in what determines whether you'd like to have sex with someone. News flash women are human and tend to want to have sex with those they love without any pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 08:29 PM
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lmao go back 2, hell even 1 century ago when women did hard labor in every part of the world and stay there ​ you think a society is going to let the potential labor of a woman go just because she's not as strong as her male counterparts? massive cope
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 08:19 PM
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Wrong, there is still an inherent bias against women. U.S. just restricted abortion and is deeply fundamentalist in many areas
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 08:17 PM
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It's a myth that women were exempt from hard labor
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 08:15 PM
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Yeah no women didn't create domestic abuse, restriction of their rights, mass rape in wartime, femicide, sex slavery...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 08:14 PM
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It isn't misogynstic to say that your thinking doesn't come from a vacuum
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 08:12 PM
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If only humans naturally had a sex ratio that generated more women than men. Then this wouldn't be a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 08:10 PM
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What are you even talking about? Can men be successful without the help of any woman ever? Define help. What about the women who raised all those CEO's?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 08:08 PM
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Then you're basically saying that this isn't a women vs. men issue it's a general issue of assigning greater value to physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 08:04 PM
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They are related, because men raping and grooming has nothing to do with providing. Your argument was that men are violent and do crime to provide for their families, but men's behavior is often destructive. Also I agree that men often don't see women as threats... because women just aren't threats the same way men are threats to women. That's an important detail.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 08:01 PM
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I used "advantage" because I lack volcabulary right now. All i'm saying is that it's not on purpose that women excel when given the chance. Also boys were educated to be quiet and disciplined and sit still in various cultures across centuries. It's ironic that they fall onto "oh but boys need more play!!" when girls finally have systematic education lol. And sure boys may be more aggressive but we live in society. Traits associated with males often aren't fit for that. That's why teachers for hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 08:00 PM
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It's important for women to be taken out of broke and homeless situations because they are infinitely more vulnerable to the horrors of rape, abuse, and trafficking. That doesn't mean they are seen as having innate value it's just even this society finds it imperative to prevent something so atrocious. I don't disagree that men are valued for what they do, everyone should be to some degree, but it's not humanizing to be viewed as only worthy in general when you're young and fit and treated like …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 02:54 PM
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But women are the primary victims of war, which are caused by men. I understand that men get drafted but that is no way comparable to women's issues caused by men. I don't think it's entirely worth to be associated with a deeply misogynistic movement. Men have the power to solve their own issues but women, we only gained some power in the last 100 years. It's fragile.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 02:50 PM
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How did I not address your points?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 02:47 PM
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Women can provide easily for themselves, also criminals aren't family men who provide for the family. They're the deadbeats. Do men care about providing for the family when they're allowed to brutally rape women and pillage villages when in war? Or when abusing their wives and children? Or when grooming children? Massive cope. Men don't fear getting kidnapped or raped by women when they walk out at night. Men aren't as physically threatened by women as men are to women. Abusive women have never …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 03:01 AM
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Mandatory draft is a male problem. Men are largely responsible for war while women and children the primary victims (mass rape, kidnapping, injuries such as fistulas from the terrible rapes), and now people want to involve women in it? Also nobody wants to acknowledge the recent Hamas mass rapes, women's issues get ignored as per usual. How is depression female-defined? Is men not reaching out for help women's problem? Well it does become their problem when men lash out and become violent, somet…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 02:56 AM
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The school system is failing boys how? They were expected to shut up and be quiet for millenia in schools but now when girls have some sort of perceived advantage they cry about how it's unfair. Biologically the egg is more important than the sperm. So I guess that is what 'disposable' means, but where in society does that apply? Psychology is made by men what the hell are you talking about? Sure men should be taken seriously for sex crimes against them and there should be no draft or war, but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 12:57 AM
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Because when you give women rights they decide they don't want many children. As bearers of the burden of reproduction that makes sense because childbirth is dangerous and underdeveloped infants compared to every other mammal is extremely draining, not to mention the lifelong effects of pregnancy. It's not exactly a problem. Millenia of forcing women to give birth and mating with them without regard for their health has led to our current state of overpopulation. If only women everywhere could h…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 12:50 AM
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Why is it that men commit most violent crime regardless of race of time period?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 12:42 AM
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You have no idea what you're talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 12:39 AM
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Men's problems are mostly caused by men. Homeless women are more of a problem because they're vulnerable to rape and trafficking Also barely any ships practiced women and children first. Titanic was a notable exception. Your privileges are living in a world that sees you as a human not a sex object.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 12:37 AM
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I don't like the trashy side of Tiktok or Twitter or whatever. But if manosphere stuff is based off of this it's just silly. Their conversations inevitabily devolve into general misogyny and those attitudes become harmful to all women when propagated sufficiently.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 12:34 AM
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Tell that to the red states outlawing abortion
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 12:30 AM
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