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Why don't we become a bioweapon for our cause? Our own Wagner.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/12/24 09:15 PM
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Equality also means that men got to have a say in what way the concept should have been applied. We didn't. You cannot tell me that rejection of our opinion constitutes as equality. Equality does not exist.
/r/MensRights08/12/24 08:21 PM
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I can say this after any article that blames men for either not wanting to commit or not being good enough for them. Who said that these women were good enough for most men? People are constantly calling themselves eligible without asking us first. Most of these people don't even qualify for us, because they don't develop the areas that men specifically ask for. Instead, they go for careers and then tell us that that is specifically why they are qualified. Stop speaking for us.
/r/MensRights08/12/24 01:39 AM
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I can tell you with great confidence. The ship has sailed. There is no way of saving this without having severe consequences.
/r/MensRights07/12/24 12:04 AM
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I've been suggesting that women start asking men out for years. The few women who do learnt the hard way how incredibly difficult and vague flirting can become. These people always think that they have some sort of inhuman ability to read people, but people with experience know that there isn't a foolproof way to know if someone is interested and whether the flirting is appropriate. Almost every woman within dating subreddits ask ways to figure out whether the man is interested, but somehow we h…
/r/MensRights07/12/24 12:01 AM
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Respectfully, have you seen what russian women look like? Even their worst looks better than average american woman.
/r/MensRights06/12/24 06:42 PM
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Thus sounds like tradcon in even a lazier and spoilt package. This would never work even on a grand scale, because most people don't earn enough money to deliver such a luxurious or even remotely decent lifestyle. This sounds like the idea of choice Feminism, where a woman gets to choose her role as either SAHM or career woman. I don't think that the average person can really choose or the other individually on a grand scale. I believe that people rather have to choose which model we use for eve…
/r/MensRights06/12/24 10:10 AM
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Have you considered boycotting everything left? Media, products, etc. Have people not learnt that giving them the attention they want, drives them crazy? Live your lives without them.
/r/MensRights04/12/24 09:23 PM
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All scientific explaining aside, one thing people forget is part of the identity politics: self-identification Whether the topic is emotional intelligence, physical attractiveness or personality attractiveness, these women seem to always be the one making their own metrics and then evaluating themselves. That's not how life works. That's like making your own exam, and then evaluating whether you should pass or not. Other people's opinion matter more in cases like these.
/r/MensRights01/12/24 07:52 AM
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I think that separating the good from the bad is going to not work for two reasons: I don't think we have the time to do this. I don't think that these people can afford the luxury of the benefit of the doubt when they're the people within all movements who have been judging others for not removing the bad apples from the good. I think we're past that point.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/24 03:30 AM
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Yes, it is. Any other community is mentioned, except this one.
/r/MensRights28/11/24 01:19 PM
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So, what solution do you suggest? I think this sub in general knows how to disassemble ideologies, but as a lot of people have said in the past: you're arguing against people who don't follow the rules of logic. One suggestion I would give anyone in this sub is to mute anything related to Feminism, LGBT or anything that doesn't support us.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/24 06:19 AM
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Not directly related to this, but I find it very odd that lately, so many famous men are ending in court. What is up with that? I can understand that there are some terrible people, but oddly specific rich men.
/r/MensRights28/11/24 12:24 AM
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Oh come on. Have some sympathy for them. Their entire movement is pretty much dead. These are the left overs of what is left from that entire movement. If you would read some of the feminists' subreddits, you would be tearing up on how much coping there is. They're becoming more violent and vicious. Heavily seeking ways to control the entire society in order to get their way. Drink one on me and enjoy the view.
/r/MensRights27/11/24 12:06 AM
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To calm your nerve. A lot of movements are dying out quite badly and started to get more hostile towards us. I've said this many times. This party isn't going to start. They're going down with us, one way or another. I think this is exactly the time to have more hope and that we start doubling down on our believes.
/r/MensRights26/11/24 02:36 PM
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Sooo, are they trying to convince us that they're the 'good guys' and allure us or are they trying to get more people in the enemies' side? I don't think even Napoleon could understand this tactic.
/r/MensRights26/11/24 07:16 AM
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Resources flow from a man to a woman because she's the proxy, the intermediary. Resources are really being provided for the children he hopes to have with you. This is what a lot of women's subreddits don't view it as. I mention partnership a lot in my comments, but that is essential issue within this. A women's income is viewed as 'providing'. Our 'providing' value has been halved, and instead, we got half the work of what women used to do. The only people who benefitted from women's emancipati…
/r/MensRights25/11/24 07:58 PM
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I agree with your standpoint, but I think that it is not something you can necessarily avoid, unless you lower your standards. After the introduction of partnership, this became much worse, because everyone is bound to end up in a partnership. People don't have the financial capacity to be in a traditional relationship. Nobody wants to be in a partnership with the ugly. It's one of the issues of partnership. It assumes that physical attraction can be neglected. Society wouldn't have gone this fa…
/r/MensRights25/11/24 01:57 AM
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I don't think bad behavior is inherently a pretty women thing. If anything, dating apps have proven that quite well. The stereotype of bad behavior among pretty women might be true, but I doubt that most of us haven't met enough women with sky high expectations from women who barely meet the 'attractive enough' level.
/r/MensRights24/11/24 10:29 PM
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Fair, that might be different.
/r/MensRights24/11/24 03:22 AM
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I think the amount of options is half the story. You only have to score once. I would rather say that the quality of options is everyone's problem.
/r/MensRights23/11/24 06:14 PM
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I've said this 6 months ago as well. Everyone wants men to do the dirty job for low wages, because they think that they have the right to be high class and everyone else didn't work as hard as they did. Welcome to the new capitalism where everyone is educated, works hard, but somehow, we can't reason why nobody wants to be lower class.
/r/MensRights23/11/24 06:13 PM
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In other news, more men are unemployed, because there aren't enough jobs that pay enough. Great way to run down your entire economy. I hope they planned ahead and took into account that people have to eat, even the ones who don't work. Isn't human rights amazing? One way or another, they're going down with us. Whether they like it or not.
/r/MensRights23/11/24 02:04 AM
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I don´t want to take away the spotlight of men, but I think people heavily underestimate how much genetics plays a role in women when it comes to attractiveness. Yes, you can work out and all sorts of stuff to look better, but if you are born without ass or tits, the level of standards that a lot of women want is pretty out of reach. Dating is pretty bad, regardless of which perspective you take. Our current culture is obsessed with improving, but absolutely blind that there is no room for it, b…
/r/MensRights21/11/24 11:52 PM
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Let's go hypotheticals here. Let's say that the gap was reduced according to them. Then what? More more aren't suddenly going to do the dirty work for minimum wage after they got the diploma. So what now? These people have no foreseeing ability.
/r/MensRights21/11/24 11:24 PM
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The conversation is always about what men do, but who said that young women weren't doing it to themselves. They wanted the choice to date whoever they want. They choose these men. It's not like they're forced to be with these men. It's the same rhetoric with some ex models. When they're benefitting from their position, everyone is just jealous and nothing is wrong. When they don't anymore, suddenly, it's wrong? Do they really want to have a conversation whether the age of women's autonomy and v…
/r/MensRights20/11/24 07:23 AM
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Interestingly, if anyone has been in the Feminist space, you'd know that they highly recommend any man and woman to read that book by Bell Hooks. That entire book is pretty much a representation of the comment above. Full of speculation on what is going on with men's life and where everything went 'wrong'. A woman talking about what it is like to be a man. Quite ironic to a movement that is absolutely adamant to take any word from a man.
/r/MensRights20/11/24 12:25 AM
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Have people considered that the left's ideology is a direct contradiction to our ideology? I mean, not economically, but definitely culturally. They can't attract men, because their entire ideology rests on the exploitation of men. They can't suddenly attract men like that, because there are parts in society that is a zero sum game. Giving men something means taking away things from women. I will say this till I die, but our current dating/relationship culture reflects a good portion of the cult…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/11/24 05:02 PM
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Boycott the media.
/r/MensRights16/11/24 05:58 PM
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We have gone through a lot. There is so so much to repair here to the point that I doubt that there is a way to return. There is a insanely high level of improvement required from their side. A lot of things need to be dropped from their side. You're not going to be able to put people together who already didn't want to be together, let alone work together. A sorry and small changes aren't going to cut it. People forget that men have gone through several waves of improvements to the point that t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/11/24 04:20 AM
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Can I post my next predictions? Their educations get full funding, but men's education is going to funded as little as possible.
/r/MensRights16/11/24 12:20 AM
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Assuming that it is patriarchy, sure. They're not coming up with a much better alternative. In the contrary, they're offering the almost exact thing, ruled by a pair of titties, and zero to none advantages, but maximum responsibilities. They can condemn every structure all they want, but they're not offering any better.
/r/MensRights16/11/24 12:10 AM
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Here is the fun part; they never intended to. We seem to only have the option to have more work. Never less. Somehow, they seem to be able to reject their role and choose one they want, but there is zero alternative for us. Everything is dumped under "Partnership" role, which is again, entirely defined by them. Never by us, which is by definition contradicting. They didn't read through the contract that they wrote themselves. A lot of people are bound to settle, there is no doubt about that. Thi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/11/24 04:26 PM
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I'm all for removing women's rights. No need to have people partake in our society who only want the best parts of society without making any sacrifices.
/r/MensRights11/11/24 06:27 PM
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I guess it's ready to call the FBI for this terrorist threat.
/r/MensRights10/11/24 05:20 PM
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This is half the story. The other half of the story is that they´re comparing their financial success to attractiveness. Meaning, the higher their income, the more attractive partner they are, thus more entitled to an attractive partner. They´re trying to define ´attractiveness´ metrics for us. The reality is that their income is for 99% independent from their attractiveness. They´re neglecting this and on top of that, neglecting the important parts of attractiveness with the idea that their fin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/24 03:22 AM
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They don't even care about the people of their own gender. They're segregating themselves entirely from society. Their main goal is to maximize their income to live comfortably in society. Whether all women can afford that? I doubt it. I call this: being slowly cornered by society entirely, because of your own selfish behavior. Just make sure that your own allies don't start to slowly eat you up. Good luck!
/r/MensRights10/11/24 01:30 AM
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And it won't be the last one.
/r/MensRights09/11/24 06:44 PM
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This has always been one of the issues with Feminism. It's great that they're earning their own money, but their view on men is to just magically climb up the economic ladder. This is an internal conflict among women now. They all want a man on their "level". Who is going to take the "losers"? There are so many flaws within their ideology. It's an idealistic view on society. They either heavily step up or we go down together. One way or another.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/11/24 06:41 PM
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I'm enjoying the ride. We're in a down spiral, because people decided that they are worth more than they actually are and aren't willing to take care of men in our system. One way of another, they're going down with us. I'm just watching everything burn. The fire feels nice.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/11/24 06:30 PM
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Don't underestimate the power of men. Don't fuck with us!
/r/MensRights09/11/24 04:59 PM
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4B didn't just start. It started ten years ago. They already were disassociated from men in all ways. You can't walk away from something you already walked away from.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/11/24 04:43 PM
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Do we really have to go over something that has been disproven already by a woman who won a noble prize? Jesus Christ. There is no winning with these people.
/r/MensRights09/11/24 04:25 AM
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Neofeminism has always been all about creating a matriarchy. Giving a small group of women the most power and the highest incomes, while severely dropping men's incomes to the point that they'll be forced to settle with some woman he doesn't want in a partnership he never asked for. Neofeminism struggles heavily as they've promised all women (whether they're attractive or not according to men's standards) that they will get an educated men who earns decent money, will accept her exactly for who …
/r/MensRights09/11/24 12:07 AM
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You can't opt out something you were never in.
/r/MensRights08/11/24 11:14 PM
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I would add the book that Feminisms constantly recommend in their subreddits. You can read for yourself how dogshit their books even are. It's all speculation after speculation. Thinking like they somehow know how men think and how men somehow grow up to be "toxic". I couldn't stop laughing during reading the book.
/r/MensRights08/11/24 04:24 AM
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You haven't learnt a single bit.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/24 03:48 AM
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People from the LGBT community who have been actively supporting Feminism for decades together with Men? Hell no.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/24 12:42 AM
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This is peak Women's narcissism. How can we make a movement for men about women. They really can't stop envying us.
/r/MensRights06/11/24 05:18 PM
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To be fair, they did say that if men didn't want to pay for child support, they shouldn't have slept with her. You don't need abortion if you don't have sex. It all goes both ways.
/r/MensRights06/11/24 12:46 PM
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I agree with everything you said!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/24 03:53 AM
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It's not about supporting the republicans, but doing as much as damage as possible to get left's attention. If they can't take men seriously, why support them at all?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/24 03:45 AM
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Who said that we were fighting? Not my war.
/r/MensRights05/11/24 03:32 PM
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Fuck off then?
/r/MensRights05/11/24 01:53 AM
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It reeks damage control due to loss of control. Threatening men to be single if they don't vote for them. Joke is on them, we have been in this situation way before the elections.
/r/MensRights03/11/24 01:29 PM
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Honestly, does anyone take the media seriously anymore? It's one big melting pot of ladies who want to exercise power by changing stories in order to fit their narrative. Drawing everyone as the enemy if you don't believe in what they believe.
/r/MensRights02/11/24 04:04 PM
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Then also expect that we will kick her ass. We won't stand still and take bullshit from anyone.
/r/MensRights02/11/24 01:38 PM
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Very simple. I ban those people in my life. Harshest punishment you can give those people is to not acknowledge their existence and allow for their victimhood.
/r/MensRights31/10/24 09:20 AM
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I've looked over some of their subs and they are genuinely terrified. Their entire question is: How do we convince these privileged asses to vote for kamala. Everything will be destroyed and a lot of people will suffer. Mostly threatening that a lot of women will not deal with a lot of men anymore. Like dude, they already weren't dealing with us. They're absolutely clueless that people are trying to segregate themselves from them in the first place for years and how everything has been going to …
/r/MensRights26/10/24 10:56 PM
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Have you tried separating yourself from those people? They will do anything to play victim of a society that does not have the cultural capacity to exist in the future. Just live your life as you desire. They're just mad that we won't do the dirty work and carry society for free. They want to roam free and do whatever they want without consequences. It's a waste of air to associate yourself with people who will bring you down for projecting their own problems on you.
/r/MensRights26/10/24 02:18 PM
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The issues extends beyond relationships. I will say this till I die. Men are the social glue that holds everything together for one very simple reason: Men initiate. Whether this is in a friendly way or with romantic intentions, it seems to me that without this, most societal interactions would just die out. When I say initiate, I don't mean "Hey". I mean actually carrying the interaction.
/r/MensRights26/10/24 01:42 PM
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Because it's not about your personality, but about making sure to put you down and not having to hold themselves to standards that men care about. Interestingly, about 5 to 10 years ago, people started to criticize men for their looks. I don't have to tell you that a lot of men like fit women. The problem is that women dislike that they have to put a lot of efforts in dieting and working out. The initial criticism was that men weren't fit themselves, so the believe was that men weren't in a posi…
/r/MensRights23/10/24 09:26 PM
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What is there to negotiate? Feminism imposed a series of improvement streaks on men to the point that a lot of women became absolutely undesirable. You can't negotiate with people who are simply unwanted. How are you going to convince a group of men to suddenly accept less than what they think deserve? This is a moment for them to choose whether it's our way or to kick rocks. The standard that you're going to hold a lot of women to is going to be insanely high. Good luck negotiating that with a …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/10/24 11:53 PM
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Imagine calling yourself an analyst and then suggesting this and then having no concrete solutions to help people, but leaving them to their faith. This is genuinely the most incapable generation of people that have ever existed. The biggest retards are getting responsibilities they shouldn't have.
/r/MensRights20/10/24 03:53 PM
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Might as well call yourself a matriarchy. Why shy away from it.
/r/MensRights20/10/24 03:23 PM
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I don't really get people's fear when it comes to this sorts of topic. A lot of us are already pretty drowning in this and have lost absolute hope into this. Your status has already been pretty much gone down the drain. You can't fear losing something you never had or will have. They will talk shit about you regardless. At this point, just go all in in life.
/r/MensRights19/10/24 03:24 PM
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We're already pretty much heading this way. This brings massive issues in society. You're getting a bunch of people who do whatever they feel like in society. There are tons of things in society that requires sacrifices. Nobody is going to do that when they're not going to be appropriately rewarded by society. All we're doing is dismantling society as a whole. Do you expect some form of altruistic society to exist where people just ignore that certain groups of people get more benefit than other…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/10/24 10:30 PM
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Feminism has always played both sides. In one way arguing that this "patriarchy" hurts men, and on the other hand, not allowing to get out of their box. They never tried to remove the "patriarchy", but become this "patriarchy". Institutionalizing their own rules within society where coincidentally men get all the dirty work and they get pick and choose whatever they want to do in society. If they truly wanted to remove men from this structure, they would at the very least let men have a say on t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/10/24 04:37 PM
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You're pretty much spot on. When you read through Feminism subreddits, this is the general view. Their notion of society is everyone should get more or less the same... except them. They worked harder than everyone else. You can also see this in subreddits like TwoXC. In one sentence, they act like they view men all equal, but in the next sentence, they're absolutely relentless in discriminating and assigning value in men. These socialists look down on men they can't benefit from, because within…
/r/MensRights18/10/24 02:15 AM
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If they don't perform their civic duties, might as well remove women's rights entirely. You can't tell me that people who didn't fight to protect men's country borders should be treated as equals to men in society. I'm a human flesh, not the bin that you put outside every night.
/r/MensRights17/10/24 03:41 PM
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You must have some deep rooted hate towards men if you can come to that conclusion. Good to know regardless haha
/r/MensRights17/10/24 01:33 PM
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Yes, it was sarcasm. Forgive me, I forgot the /s
/r/MensRights17/10/24 01:30 PM
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Yes. Don't you know? You're more likely to die by the hands of a man than falling off 23 floors
/r/MensRights17/10/24 01:21 PM
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What is the focus here? It's also illegal in Russia. What is the point here? I don't like this map.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/24 04:43 PM
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A third, but very general argument is that they're simply louder than we are. A man's complaint is nowhere near close to a woman's complaint. Some ladies will put your world upside down to get their message across.
/r/MensRights16/10/24 04:17 PM
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Hahaha, my apologies!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/24 11:47 PM
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People like you and other folks in the comments. I would have never remembered this past event.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/24 11:46 PM
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Some of you people have amazing memory.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/24 11:32 PM
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It's always easy to take the moral high ground when you're not expected to do the dirty work
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/24 10:09 AM
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They´re not just asking for a man they´re attracted to, but also a man within the same education/class and the man to treat them exactly the same way they would treat an attractive woman. The standards within romantic relationships have changed. Women have their own income/career and are looking someone they can align with financially. There are so many rules added to dating that make absolute no sense, because they're entirely based on a lot of women's own metrics. One of the other reasons for …
/r/MensRights10/10/24 10:01 PM
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Cool, now what? Have you achieved your dreams? Get a hobby for god's sake.
/r/MensRights08/10/24 09:44 PM
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A group defining what it means to be equal for you and neglecting your opinion on what equality means. How surprising. Equal meaning, the woman is in control. This notion that women are being strictly seen as decorative NPCs is interesting. They should be able to decide how they want to look, but hold on, if a man doesn't want to do something in a relationship, like romantic gestures, that is not controlling. Okay.
/r/MensRights08/10/24 01:42 PM
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One of the bigger reasons why you shouldn't spiral is, because these people are projecting their own failures onto others. People are simply not willing to deal with these people anymore, so obviously, they're going to hate us. People like us not validating those people is a form of social rejection towards them like they don't matter. These people have been so far in alienating everyone that they have become the alienated themselves. My advice? Like seeks like. Talk to people about your believe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/10/24 01:55 AM
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My issue with 50/50 has always been that 50/50 only takes into the account the things that women don't want to do. There are plenty of things men do that men don't want to do. Paying the bill is only of the many examples. The issue here is that it would kill romance as well as make women do the work that we don't want to do. That's why 50/50 is pretty much Cakeism.
/r/MensRights07/10/24 06:29 PM
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What a great way to run a country by making half the population fall behind and then get surprised why your economy is bleeding faster than a stab victim.
/r/MensRights07/10/24 06:20 PM
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The bullying can happen in discrete and indiscrete ways. The discrete way is similar to how companies do it. They tell you that there are plenty of jobs available and say that nobody wants to work anymore, but the jobs pay minimum wage, and want your kidneys and left arm. It's in a way saying that the choices are good enough for you and that you are ungrateful. This happens more by making generalizations about men. The more indiscrete way is just calling someone Incel. The effects are socially m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/10/24 06:04 PM
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What I find wrong is that everything is strictly measured by women's metrics. As long as these women approve what we can and cannot like, they consider it fine, but the moment these men ask for something that they don't like, it's out of bound. It's easy to say whether something is right or wrong when it's followed strictly by your rules and moral compass. Imo, everything is fine whatever it is you ask from your perspective. It's pretty irrelevant what they think, because you set your own condit…
/r/MensRights06/10/24 06:59 AM
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Maybe because Feminism made false promises that all it took was having a career to date the perfect qualitative men they were promised? Men has been on several improvement streaks for years and flat out refusing to date them under the condition they also determined for us. Feminism has been constantly saying that a lot of women were enough when they were in fact, weren't. You can't come here and be angry about the life choices you made.
/r/MensRights05/10/24 09:47 PM
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What I find worrisome is that we are never included in any conversation about our gender. How can everyone constantly speak for us without letting us also speak for their gender.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/24 06:15 PM
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Considering all the damage that has already been done, I don't think they have the luxury to get the benefit of the doubt. I reject Feminism entirely.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/24 06:07 PM
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Just call it what it is; Cakeism.
/r/MensRights05/10/24 01:12 PM
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Because physical attraction is the only thing left that most men really can ask for for doing something they don't want, which is working. Women have their careers now, but unless they earn a substantial amount of money that can change a man's life, it is nowhere near comparable to being attractive. Consider also that most relationships will end up mostly in a partnership and you end up offering someone who 1. isn't physically attractive and 2. anywhere near useful. People underestimate how much…
/r/MensRights05/10/24 12:55 AM
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You would be allowing for them to drop their standards even lower than it already is. If the bare minimum is to be loyal, might as well drop it to breathing, because tomorrow, they will drop even further to that. I don't think anyone is particularly excited to pay an absurdly high price for someone who is still a liability. You're not doing anyone any favor with that mentality.
/r/MensRights05/10/24 12:20 AM
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Honestly, does anyone give a shit whether they outperform or not? It really doesn't change shit. They want to be better at everything except at the dirty jobs. Earn the most money. Now what? Where does this take them? back to us. It's like people are constantly busy trying to prove us something when nobody gives a shit about those people. Regardless of how deep you think about these sorts of situations, it always boils down to one key thing: We do the dirty work. As long as none of them are will…
/r/MensRights04/10/24 01:36 PM
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There is a reason why. First of all, the left doesn't know the difference between the draft and voluntarily fighting. Secondly, they view military like a job that they pay for with their taxes. I work and I pay taxes, thus I deserve people to protect me and die for me. Lastly, their idea of the military size is like in Vietnam where people were drafted, thus the number of men is naturally expected to the higher.
/r/MensRights02/10/24 11:45 PM
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Objectification tends to be viewed strictly viewed from a woman's perspective. Sexual objectification isn't the only way to objectify someone. What about Financial objectification towards men? How many times have we heard people not willing to be with a man who doesn't provide a good income or an income at all? Are we only viewed as humans under the condition that we provide? Honestly, this believe that they're the only people who are viewed as a bunch of victims of society gets tiring.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/10/24 08:06 PM
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A lot of women have careers now that forces people into this partnership dynamic. Nobody agreed on that. It was just pushed into society. Women's dating market value has been botched in the sense that it is pretty much defined by her looks, because Feminism protested against everything else that mattered for men. She's essentially arguing that a lot of men and women aren't that valuable, but there seems to also be an implication that a woman who works has equal value as a man who works, which is…
/r/MensRights01/10/24 02:13 PM
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Breaking human rights? Oh, this is going to be fun!
/r/MensRights30/09/24 08:41 PM
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If I get this correctly, he can be so vulnerable that he won't be able to get himself back up. They want the strong man sensitive. Not the type of guy who plays victim and can't himself, despite that he requires the support that you were supposed to give. Did they really just claim the victim card like it's the N-word pass? Are you a certified victim? No? Can't be a victim.
/r/MensRights29/09/24 03:20 PM
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Some people are more concerned about what they can't do than what they an do. If you listened to Feminists and read women's subreddits, you would know that these people are intellectually lazy idealists. In their believe, there should be an ideal world where women do whatever they want, whenever they want without any consequences. I'm talking about absolute freedom. In their ideal world, wars, murder, rape, theft, or any other form of sinning should not exist. I agree. Now make it happen? That's…
/r/MensRights28/09/24 10:58 AM
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Let me make it even more interesting. How can a movement claim to strive for equality be the only one defining what equality means? Aren't you supposed to define it together? That's a lot of fruit for thought for a movement that claims to be, again, self-identified empathic people. It's just a bunch of people who think that they get to define right and wrong. That has never worked out well in history.
/r/MensRights27/09/24 05:23 PM
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Dr. K once said men are failing or struggling because society raised men to think women still follow gender roles. By telling men all they need is a job and income to get women. But In reality this set men up for failure, when reality doesn't match their expectation or fantasy. Since women already have jobs, and even successful career, where they can do better than men. Let me remind you, this was entirely voluntarily to not become dependent on the man. They're essentially saying, we don't care …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/24 12:53 AM
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There seems to be this idea within Feminists that they created society because of women's ability to bear children. A lot of these women's subreddits and the attacks on strictly rich male folks have convinced me that they're trying to create a matriarchy. I'm in no way arguing that these male figures have been immorally active, but there seems absolute no focus on female rich folks, for example "Cardi B's drugging men" past. Men are strictly viewed as tools in society to solve women's problems.
/r/MensRights26/09/24 01:55 PM
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Then why do you go into that room?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/09/24 12:13 PM
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Her entire motivation stems from her previous experience and wants to create a "Women’s Justice Board". That's a lot of fairness and equal treatment from the most "empathetic" gender. Similar issues definitely don't happen to men, right?. The UK never disappoints when it comes to gender discrimination.
/r/MensRights24/09/24 07:36 PM
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Have people considered that maybe the relationship dynamics have changed? Most relationships are whether you like it or not bound to become partnerships, because both genders work full-time. Maybe, people aren't willing to make sacrifices for others who they don't deem as attractive enough to make sacrifices for. People forget how Feminism forced most people into this partnership dynamics by implementing women into the workforce. Just like in all other countries, Korean men didn't have a say on …
/r/MensRights24/09/24 06:45 PM
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It depends on what time frame and what women we are talking about. 15 years ago, I would have said yes, because countries had enough money to sustain themselves for the long run. This was beneficial for lower and upper class Feminists as there was money to support them. As Feminism initially stated: "I am an independent woman who needs no man". Feminism managed to derail our entire infrastructure and economy, so as our economy degrades, the answer has become no. Upper class/educated women can st…
/r/MensRights24/09/24 03:08 PM
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I could argue that I am anti-feminist in the sense that I believe that women killed their dating prospects by trying to equalize solely their career to their attractiveness. Whether people like to deny or not, looks matter. Within Feminism, women have always been bound to date "down". This is also one of main reasons why Feminism is such a dead movement. There is no acceptance to the fact that they have to. It would undermine everything they promised and stood for. It would mean that women built…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/24 01:25 PM
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I'm more inclined to say that they should just remove the draft. We've learnt after the Ukrainian war that they do whatever it takes to not serve and considering how too few Ukrainian women have served. Add the current culture and political circumstances and there is no way in hell that you're going to convince people to serve ever again.
/r/MensRights18/09/24 03:42 PM
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I have seen this feminizing trend for the last twenty years. They're always viewing this strictly from between birth to around the age of 18. Men should also do things girls do. They're essentially removing the gender part of things and trying to make everyone able to do everything regardless of gender. The text makes a massive assumption at the end that is blatantly not true. We need people who like to fix cars and people who like to fix dinner. We need people who are willing and able to fight …
/r/MensRights13/09/24 02:26 PM
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While this is an entirely selfish decision to make, the argument to walk away from accountability is 9/10 times that the guy was a deadbeat. They're doing this, because they're counting on society's resources. If our system didn't protect children, they would never dare to do it.
/r/MensRights12/09/24 01:21 AM
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To give people here some solace; I checked the situation in all of these women's groups. The situation is worse for them than you might think. As OP described, there is a lot of gaslighting among these sorts of people. This includes within these groups. There is a lot of internal conflicts that they seem to be having, mostly the consequences that following these ideologies bring. There is a lot of people deprived of love and validation. There seems to be growing loss of hope from people, because…
/r/MensRights10/09/24 03:40 AM
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Received backlash from whom?
/r/MensRights08/09/24 10:56 PM
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Feminists have always been people who rather make a thousand hypothesizes to explain why the current structure isn't working rather than listening to people's actually problems and criticisms towards the current structure. People have been saying for years that their ideology has always been a dead-end. It was never going to work. Now that people are figuring this out, their own allies are turning their back against them, because they made false promises that they couldn't keep. Feminism has alw…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/24 10:18 PM
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I think you are correct in your conclusion that there it is an issue. The tactic that Feminists use is very simple. They use the Monopoly principle. They drop the average standard to hell by making sure nobody improves and then artificially increase the price, because they know that there is nobody better. It makes you get away with as low quality as possible while making the most profit. That's why the emphasize on self-worth in Feminism is so important.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/24 10:48 PM
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Progressive has always been about redefining conservatism where women define their own value within society. There is a reluctance to let others define or even have a say about you. Under the argument of "dependence", they tried to assign the value of traditional role to the new working role. You can't just suddenly everyone that you are attractive, because you view it as valuable. Our current value system is broken. People are using currency that has no value in our economy. If you look at men'…
/r/MensRights07/09/24 03:21 PM
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I have the odd feeling that some subs will be closed soon. Be prepared for another attack by censorship. I'm definitely leaving reddit if subs like these get removed.
/r/MensRights06/09/24 08:49 AM
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Have people considered that women have actually never looked at men as equals? Benevolent sexism is a consequence of this. Ever since women have gotten so far in the education, there seems to be hostility towards "not as" educated men. They aren't viewed as people that should exist even in the dating world. Moreover, women also don't view men who are as educated as them as equals. The hostility here is even more starking as these men are financially potential candidates, but still not attractive…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/24 12:22 AM
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Why are you involving yourself with women who think they are better than you? Honestly, regardless of how long and how much you think and discuss this. In the end, you won't be able to change these people. Let them go. You can't help these people. It's a god complex that can only be destroyed by just involving yourself with these people and acknowledging importance or even their existence. The dam. will break. The victim complex will come after. You know, usual stuff. Life is too short to deal w…
/r/MensRights03/09/24 05:24 PM
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There will be once men are done being victims. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/24 03:16 PM
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You have my empathy. I can imagine how hard it already is to find someone as a minority, but then also barely having the room to filter people on something as simple as this. As someone suggested, the closest thing I can suggest is a form of Passport Bros.
/r/MensRights02/09/24 12:33 AM
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I see this argumentation all the time. It falls under the benefiance vs autonomy clause. You're removing my autonomy, because you're not letting me choose to do the right thing, but I get to remove your right to choose, because it is just citizial duty to help others. It's not the first time these people have manipulated people with moral code. They really lost credibility.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/24 06:14 PM
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While I agree with this notion, the issue isn't necessarily just men, but also the sheer hostility from women for not accepting this idea. You're essentially socially rejecting them. If you look at how women generally meet men, it's rarely the case that she approached him. The man always meet the woman.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/24 12:13 AM
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In other news, by 2028, the female population in Latvia will be 20,000. At the start of war, 10,000. It's not like we haven't learnt anything new from the Ukrainian war. On paper, It always looks good, but in reality, people will always try to find to not do it.
/r/MensRights27/08/24 11:30 PM
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Society heavily benefits from men working. They're trying to bully men into relationships with a bunch of ugly women. They will bully all the men first into an infinite loop of improvements and then into a toxic bullying relationship for more improvements. I've lurked quite a bit in a lot of women's groups and they seem to be quite convinced that they are good enough for most men, despite that men have communicated clearly that they're not interested in these women. They're attacking men, not ne…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/24 10:06 PM
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I think Daniel (Author) was trying to be neutral here. That's at least the feeling I got after reading the article.
/r/MensRights26/08/24 07:58 PM
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People can push all they want, but I don't see much reason for men to have "game'. There isn't much reason to play the game when there isn't much to win. I can have the best game all, but if the win is some mediocre shit for the rest of my life, then why put so much effort? I wouldn't worry to much. You can play whatever game you want and decide how much effort you are willing to put. If she isn't worth it, she isn't worth it. Can't make it simpler than that. Feminism wants to create perfect men…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/24 11:40 PM
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I don't think femcel is accurate for women, but I've heard that something like leftovers is more accurate as it's more implicit about not desirable for long-term.
/r/MensRights25/08/24 05:28 PM
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Quite frankly, I wouldn't want anything LGBT related in this sub. They have been heavy supporters of Feminism for years. That includes this sort of things. They are not my allies.
/r/MensRights25/08/24 01:12 AM
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Whether it is Trump or Harris, people are massively fucked anyway. Harris doesn't have the slightest clue in how to make her promises come true. This is just about fighting off Trump. As long as he doesn't part of politics, people are fine.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/24 11:11 AM
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To add to this. Israel and Turkey have a history together. I'm not exactly how, but it seems very friendly and cultural in some way. There is no way that Turkey would do anything to Israel.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/24 11:08 AM
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Why would anyone to accept the male gender role when you get even more work than the original male gender role for not even anywhere close to what our granddads. They essentially killed men´s dating prospects by going against their own gender role and are now constantly increase the price for something nobody wants. It´s like making the Nokia as expensive as the iPhone, despite that the Nokia is obsolete. The male gender role is obsolete, because women were the first ones to give up. They want t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/24 05:58 PM
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Feminism is nothing more than the traditional role where you additionally take a part of the women's role, but also barely anything back. Helping women helps society. Helping men is unnecessary as it is considered a personal problem. They want to define what is good and what is bad. It's that easy. Coincidentally, everything they enjoy is good and anything that makes their life inconvenient is bad. They want men to adapt, but are absolutely adamant to change in any way as that creates more work.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/24 05:17 PM
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Everyone is aware how dating affects women and how they're viewed when they are single. Criticism towards them is an attack on their value.
/r/MensRights21/08/24 07:48 PM
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I always see this notion that men need to adapt. At no point did people consider to ask the real question: Who the fuck said that these women were attractive or wanted? What is the definition of successful? Financially? Maybe. Dating? It doesn't strike me as successful. Nobody is willing to ask the question whether these women are even considered as acceptable. Yes, the dating norms as obsolete. So is the women's dating market value of most women. The common mistake I see is that people don't kn…
/r/MensRights21/08/24 12:14 PM
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The issue with tradcons is that they seem to always view themselves as middle or high class. There is never a tradcon that is low class. Dating isn't just a relationship issue, but also a class division issue. If everyone identifies themselves as high class, but who is going to be low class then?
/r/MensRights20/08/24 03:03 PM
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When you make men infinitely improve and have very few women who are considerably attractive for these men, you get this disparity. Women don't want to step up their game. You can't do much about it. It's beyond your control. Either compete or get out of dating. As people said already, you have to date multiple people to see if they are good enough for you. You want to meet people naturally, but that's not possible as it also means that you need to be able to find more people attractive. The sub…
/r/MensRights19/08/24 01:03 PM
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What is the end game here? Do they want civil war? Brain drain? More hate towards women? They're really going for it. One way or another, they're destroying the very spoon that feeds them. God speed!
/r/MensRights18/08/24 09:11 PM
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I'm quite frankly more astonishing by the fact that they blame influencers like Andrew Tate. We've had Feminism from primary school till now. How can a bald edgy guy with a lambo influence men so much in such a short time and undermine years old movements like Feminism?
/r/MensRights18/08/24 11:22 AM
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Perhaps, it is. I much rather have everyone a better life for the, especially the foundation of our society, which is the people who do the harder jobs for the least, than for the sake of an ethnicity. We're all in the same bullshit anyways.
/r/MensRights18/08/24 12:49 AM
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Well, traditional doesn't sound as attractive as Feminism, because Feminism makes a lot of false promises that they cannot keep. It makes too many false assumptions that they think can change about men.
/r/MensRights18/08/24 12:34 AM
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There are two options: Forming an alliance and mixing with other groups in order to keep a 50/50 male-female population and losing multiple European ethnicities. Or Rewarding men in other ways as it won't be possible to have a 50/50 male-population. The population will be smaller, but there will be more resources for the rest of us and relatively less work.
/r/MensRights18/08/24 12:30 AM
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With Feminism it will, but the question is whether you can also preserve it in some way or another. There are a lot of women who are Feminists, but not all of them are necessarily feminists. I'm suggesting a social filtering mechanism to filter out feminists from ourselves. They can die out, but it doesn't mean that we have to or european ethnicities.
/r/MensRights17/08/24 11:43 PM
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The only thing we can do is form allies with cultures that align with us and survive as long as we can. Under no circumstances can we associate ourselves with these women. I am aware how hardcore this is, but I am all for discrimination and segregation. You are with us or against us. Hold on to your believes and socially reject those against us. Filter women within their own group and allow those in who align with us. This is one of the ways to create our own society and own culture that can rea…
/r/MensRights17/08/24 11:34 PM
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What do they think? That they're going to be nicer to women? One way or another, it's going to be a death sentence for them.
/r/MensRights17/08/24 11:27 PM
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So they want to hold society hostage. Give us what we want or we won't have babies? May I suggest to just separate? It serves no purpose to work together with them and have them as part of our society. I said it. Our society. They want men to do the dirty work for free, while they pick the high paid jobs. I'm sorry, we're doing this without them. Kick them out. Exactly as I said it.
/r/MensRights17/08/24 11:15 PM
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Who cares about what women think? It's been too long that words have been twisted in order to propagate a narrative. Definitions have been changed to whatever fits people's agenda. It's a waste of time to argue with people who think that they get to dictate the English language and the ethics of a society. Don't acknowledge people who don't deserve to be acknowledges as part of our society.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/08/24 08:53 PM
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Now make one for women.
/r/MensRights17/08/24 04:57 PM
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You found out what people are lying. Great. Now what? Have people considered that this will inevitably lower their dating pool as well? People really think that every woman can just date a tall guy. There is inevitably going to be women who won't be able to. What is going to happen to them? People aren't realizing how women are pretty much fighting among each other now and that this is going to end up really bad for their own group. You're creating enemies out of your own people.
/r/MensRights16/08/24 12:34 AM
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Another argument to defy the existence of the patriarchy or our supposed privilege. It begs me to question at what point people are going to distantiate themselves from women? There is no money, no production, there is no zero gain to uphold a society. I think it's been long enough that people have been associating themselves with people who have been milking out society and then expect men to just serve as second class citizens for ungrateful people. I don't think there is a point to change our…
/r/MensRights15/08/24 12:09 AM
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They're encountering the very problem they were eventually going to encounter. Once you don't have any more enemies nor gain from your enemies, you fight for power within your own organization. Economy is deteriorating and it's slowly becoming a "survival of the fittest" situation. If your organization doesn't take care of you, because they were never going to nor could have taken care of you, you're stuck in creating allies. I quite frankly am not interested in being allies with them after all …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/08/24 04:23 PM
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Reeves is just a poster-child for Feminism. Work with us and we will reward you with absolutely nothing, because whatever you have to do is your duty as a man, while we let women get away with whatever they want, because their duty is "oppression".
/r/MensRights14/08/24 11:53 AM
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I have to be honest here though. You will never manage to do that, because some women would rather be alone than be with someone they don't find attractive. It's the same way for men when it comes to finding someone attractive. As long as the system takes care of you, you have the luxury of not being in a relationship with someone. Considering that the economy is deteriorating, I think that we will slowly lose that luxury for the sake of society's existence.
/r/MensRights14/08/24 12:56 AM
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Men CANT have these standards because most women would never fulfill them. Women can have high standards for men because men actually do stuff and provide for women. Women don’t do the same for men This is one of the bigger issues with Feminism. There was a demand for a certain type of woman, but they destroyed it by putting women in the workforce. There isn't a demand for them, unless they are born a certain way. I always say this to any woman who isn't a Feminist. Your dating experiences aren'…
/r/MensRights12/08/24 04:17 PM
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Interesting that it's specifically called blue quotas for lower paid jobs, but pink quotas for higher paid jobs. It's almost like there is a self-interest linked to this.
/r/MensRights11/08/24 02:41 PM
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There is naturally going to be a hierarchy of classes in our system. Feminism caused for class division by infesting themselves in the economy. People view this as a Feminism problem, but I would rather call this as a women problem. At no point did Feminism promise women to be in a higher class, but promised women to have better jobs. A better job doesn't equal a higher class. In order to be put in a higher class, you would need to partner up and have a higher level job. Women view a higher leve…
/r/MensRights10/08/24 03:37 PM
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I'm gonna teach you a mental trick. Instead of always allowing people to scrutinize what you have to offer as a man, why don't you scrutinize what women have to offer? What I mean by that is judging women. I think we're pass the point that the camera lens is constantly aimed at you, instead of others. You be the judge of what you think they should at least be for the average joe. What do you view as the standard for the average woman to be viewed enough for you. Reject any question that turns to…
/r/MensRights09/08/24 05:40 PM
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Call out their bluff. Let them punish you. Now what? Can't be enslaved by someone whose authority you don't acknowledge. Your life, your rules.
/r/MensRights09/08/24 01:10 PM
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That's also how they are killing the system. By equalizing people, you essentially created a system where people's value is fixed and determined by how they are born. Regardless of how much work you do as a man, you seem to be always worth less than a woman, let alone the woman you didn't choose. No wonder everything is stagnating. Our culture is directly related to dating which also directly related to our economy. They're so fixated on the idealization of giving all women exactly what they wan…
/r/MensRights08/08/24 03:11 AM
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I quite frankly wouldn't worry too much about it. As long as they can't make it appealing for men to sustain the system, they'll drown one way or another. Their entire ideology is in its essence "let's put women as high as we can in society", but are totally ignoring that women's own involvement in classism that already starts at dating, which is why dating is a very popular complaint among people. You can put women as high as you want, but if men are at the bottom, you're pretty much killing da…
/r/MensRights08/08/24 01:37 AM
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Good luck with that. We're waiting out a blood bath in most countries. When money dries out, people seek safety in others. Considering how feminism has become nothing more than a privilege demanding movement, it's not going to end well for them. When your country doesn't produce and people starve of hunger, in my believe, traditionalism is going to make a big come back. The newest privilege is going to be eating.
/r/MensRights07/08/24 08:47 PM
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To be fair, this is not just an Ukrainian women thing, but an overall women´s issue. If war happened in our countries, these women would be doing the exact same thing. It really makes me question whether it makes sense to give women rights at this point.
/r/MensRights04/08/24 11:54 PM
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They already monopolized men's advocacy by using the term Equality. Equality can mean anything as long as you define it. The key in a lot of these movements is duplicity and ambiguity in wording, and usage of terminologies. A lot of words have lost their original meaning. It doesn't matter really anymore. Feminism is bleeding as a movement. You cannot promise people forever without delivering at least something for this long. People are too tired.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/24 09:59 PM
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I'm not arguing about the legitimacy of this emancipation. Everyone knows it's bullshit. It's more about making a lot of hours a day that doesn't leave much room for other things that men value more than their income. We didn't need two incomes until women became a part of our economy. I'm a believer that women created this problem and are now trying to sell us the the solution under the guise of equality. In reality, no man buys this, so the only winners here are corporations.
/r/MensRights04/08/24 08:14 AM
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It depends on what you're contributing and what you're expecting to contribute. These things don't align between men and women. This is where the inequality stems from. The price to provide whatever women want is too high for what you get out of the relationship. There are only two options here: Either women have to want to less. Women have to offer more/ be more attractive. 1 is not possible due to the emancipation of women in the workforce. 2 is not possible due to biological reasons and time …
/r/MensRights03/08/24 05:52 PM
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Because that's all men come for. There isn't much to come for when it comes to average women. If men would come to build something with these women, that would have been the headline of this thread.
/r/MensRights03/08/24 05:13 PM
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Whatever we live in is easy to question, but let's make the assumption that the patriarchy exists. How does Feminism differ from the patriarchy? Their expectations are either unrealistic or exactly like the patriarchal structure. For example, when it comes to war, the offered solution is either nobody should fight (unrealistic) or men are actively being sacrificed for war (patriarchal). It's easy to break something down. Now build something back up. They never had a solution for their problem.
/r/MensRights03/08/24 02:59 AM
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Then don't marry. Nobody forces you. These sorts of articles get old really quickly.
/r/MensRights03/08/24 02:47 AM
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If you follow everything closely, you'll notice that the norms that men must hold themselves to are always described for men and never by men. It seems odd to me that a movement, that fixates so hard on autonomy, has a reluctance to allow the other gender to be autonomous themselves. Conservatism and Feminism is almost identical in the expectations that they have from men, but vastly differ in what is expected from women. It's almost like we're viewed like a bunch of bees that only exist to prov…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/24 04:52 PM
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I honestly question how small the number of women who work to help society must be. There are so many jobs that women take for the money (which is not what I am necessarily criticizing), but what kind of incredibly bad job performance they show, despite holding a job that requires a lot of responsibility. They're so fixated on the prestige and the sort of lifestyle they should be able to afford that they forget that you must also actually do a good job. This really extends further than Psycholog…
/r/MensRights02/08/24 03:24 PM
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Have you considered that they were never interested in this much responsibility, but rather the status, money and prestige? That's why the lack of accountability is constantly being reported. It was never about making a change, but about power. Now, they're fighting among each other for power. The best gunpower against this is purposefully ignoring and refusing the acknowledge their power. You don't have to abide to their moral principles. People are perfectly capable of following their own mora…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/24 11:14 PM
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Have you thought about the patriarchy and Feminism have insanely much in common? (Assuming that the patriarchy exists, which it doesn't) Feminists essentially say that gender roles shouldn't exist and that men shouldn't have to uphold them, but at the time, they want the exact same thing from men. The identical part between the patriarchy and feminism is that they both seem to want to make the rules for men. What men should want in society. What men should offer to society. What men should want …
/r/MensRights31/07/24 02:54 PM
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I think that even feminists are starting to struggle in their own world, because the idea rests on the idea that all men become prizes. It assumes that all women are already prizes. It has become an entire narcissistic community, especially over the course of last ten years. When you listen to them, it boils down to the idea that they can set all the rules of life. Who you should like. What you should look into a woman. What should matter to you in a relationship and a woman. At the same time, n…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/24 11:24 PM
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They don't support it, but they walk away when problems arise. They're pacificists. The entire ideology rests on hypothetical cases. "Nobody should have to fight, because there shouldn't be war". It's all about parasitism. Milking your work, but never sacrificing anything. A country cannot exist when people don't sacrifice anything.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/24 11:02 PM
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Remove Feminism. The entire concept doesn't work for the majority of the people. It's great that women have become independent with their income, but they're not providing anything more than that to themselves. Any other duty or sacrifice is looked away from as not their problem. On top of that, it kills dating pretty much as they set a much higher price on themselves than that they're truthy worth on the market defined not by my standard, but everyone's. It eats up money from society and pushes…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/24 11:16 PM
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Emotional labor and all the other nonsense all stem from a heavy nice girl syndrome. The way they operate is the same how nice guys are described as people who were nice, so they should get something out of it, e.g. sex. Just because you put effort, doesn't mean that you're putting effort in the right area at the right time. The value of labor comes from the demand for it at that moment. A lot of these women do one thing and then expect the exact same thing back. They didn't help you, because yo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/24 04:43 PM
1

I find it really concerning that treatment is always viewed as something that can be one in one correct way. Something that is so contextual, yet incredibly prone to be abused. On top of that, no information is given whether boys are being treated right (again, contextual and perspectively). It's like listening to a court hearing from strictly one side. This is a key element within the way movements operate. Wordplays.
/r/MensRights23/07/24 07:03 PM
3

I find this power dynamic topic such a odd topic. We always strictly look at this from the perspective of powerful one, but never from the powerless one. What do the powerless ones exactly do to avoid this? In dating, women dating older men. Power dynamic. Women entering dangerous areas. Power dynamic. Women dating men with more money. Power dynamic. There are so many ways to avoid this power dynamic, yet they don't. This whole notion that women have no control over certain things is so insincer…
/r/MensRights23/07/24 01:36 PM
4

The situation is much worse than this. You can´t sustain a society with solely individuals instead of teams of man and a woman. There can´t exist a new social contract as men and women have become entirely independent. Women will definitely not give up their position, unless it fulfills their needs without having to take the old traditional role. We seem to forget that Feminism has abolished women's gender role. I'm not trying to be disrespectful here towards women, but what other role can women…
/r/MensRights20/07/24 11:31 PM
1

I stopped having any debate with majority of women. It´s too exhausting to figure out who is reasonable and who is not. The moment I smell even a little bit of smell of attitude and I´m already disengaged. They can prove themselves to me.
/r/MensRights20/07/24 06:06 PM
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Their practices are drawn as making average women´s life more favorable, but they´re actually making the average women´s lives more competitive. Not in terms of their own incomes, but in terms of what class they will be defined in. You would be right if the case was that most women end up with most men. They don´t. This is strictly getting more women higher incomes and leaving the rest of men in the lower income brackets. Obviously, this is going to numb down dating even further. It´s a positive…
/r/MensRights20/07/24 01:00 AM
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I started noticing that MensLib is bleeding when I started seeing people there come to the same conclusion as we did. Feminism is their brand and anything that isn't feminism is being censored. People can't go in an infinite loop of blaming men and discussing toxic masculinity or whatever label forever without eventually coming to the point that capitalism is involved in a lot of ways with us. Considering that people can't change that, people eventually fall in the leap of acceptance. It's tirin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/24 11:44 AM
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In a society that has been slowly redesigned to be equal, there can't be "gentlemanly" rules. 1. It automatically means that there should be ladies. Do you see anyone behaving like ladies? 2. It means that it comes with privileges. In an equal society. Using old traditional terminology to get your way is the way opportunists are trying to manipulate in doing things that doesn't benefit you in any way, but makes them benefit the most.
/r/MensRights15/07/24 11:46 PM
4

I think the biggest irony is that we're talking about the most educated generation. No amount of education can fix this level of ego.
/r/MensRights15/07/24 01:30 AM
1

I would like to add a big condition under this all that doesn't seem very evident for a lot of men. Only do this when you are 100% sure that this is worth doing it and you're okay with losing money on this. As the rule goes for gambling, only gamble money you're willing to lose. It's a waste of time to go on many dates with someone you already aren't sure that you want to invest in. It's better to invest in something that gives an acceptable chance of turning into something long-term.
/r/MensRights14/07/24 11:12 PM
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Assuming that the "patriarchy" exist, which it doesn't, what solution does feminism provide to replace this patriarchy? They don't provide something different that doesn't hurt us. They're providing almost the identical concept of patriarchy without the rewards. Just like all the other concepts they come up with, they're just reinventing the wheel and putting their own name on it to make it look like they came up with some miraculous solution that saves us all.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/07/24 12:52 PM
2

I refuse to associate myself in any way and form with a feminism. I just deny their position in society. While everything is going down, all I can do is form alliances to create a new community and eventually a new society that doesn't allow Feminism and feminists to be a part of.
/r/MensRights14/07/24 03:42 AM
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How is it surprising? The Feminism framework was never going to work. Their independence caused for an increase of ego and consequently they alienated all men from their lives. Then two realizations appeared: !. You need another income to get to the class you want. 2. Loneliness is an absolute bitch. They don't actually want to be alone. Feminism was reframed as: We don't need men, we want men. The expectation was that with their independence, they could pick the man they want. It was further fr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/07/24 11:34 PM
1

And this is where women's right die.
/r/MensRights12/07/24 12:22 AM
1

Yes, we do. It's a fair choice to make. This society won't survive. I'm curious what will replace our current society.
/r/MensRights11/07/24 05:00 PM
1

I don't think you're talking nonsense, but this is the sort of dilemma we have reached after Feminism. Yes, they should choose, but that also means that most people won't be chosen. What do you think the next step is going to be? People refusing to partake in society and let society die out. It's women's call on what they want.
/r/MensRights11/07/24 02:35 PM
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I don't understand how this trend hasn't been going on for the last twenty years. It makes zero sense since Feminism specifically fought for women's independence. How can you be upset about not getting into a relationship with someone you already view as a burden? Here is where I really criticize women who supported Feminism. They really implanted in their own head this idea that independence was going to lead for much better partners. Feminism never states that it was their goal. Shouldn't they…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/24 10:18 PM
10

I reject feminism as a whole. They had so many opportunities to make big change. Instead, they chose to abuse the movement to their benefit. I have no trust in the people who support it. Besides, the entire concept is flawed as it overrides the social dynamic contract between men and women. It neglects attraction between men and women and assumes that a relationship can exist without attraction.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/24 09:31 PM
10

They've hijacked the term for their benefit. It's like me defining what positive femininity is. Positive femininity is when a woman cooks, cleans, works and takes care of all the men's needs whatever he asks. Of course, it's positive. I just defined it. Women would look at this very differently. It's the same way terms like body positivity, beautiful and all other words have been hijacked. You're defining terms yourself and declaring them positive and any change in the term is ultimately classif…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/24 09:28 PM
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At this point, why live with men if the odds of everything is so bad? Do they want a solution or just complain about everything? Put these ladies all in one country and let them figure it out. Problem solved. You can't go nowhere if the constant excuse is hypotheticals.
/r/MensRights08/07/24 03:49 PM
1

I think people aren't aware, but lizzo is trying to lose weight. The very woman who preached about fat being beautiful is losing weight is all you need to know that even they don't believe it.
/r/MensRights08/07/24 01:08 PM
2

Coworker assumes that they take these jobs. They don't.
/r/MensRights08/07/24 10:38 AM
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I have criticism towards most ideas, for example, the draft. If there is no willingness to keep up that society. Regardless of whether women become a part of the draft or not, if men don't want to live with women together, the idea of draft goes quickly down the drain. Men and women don't want to support each other. This is why dating is a very important and popular issue among both genders. People don't want to be with each other, thus not be in the same society. People underestimate how import…
/r/MensRights07/07/24 07:33 PM
1

People seem to forget that tate hasn't been that long around. The issues were there way before tate. He's a scapegoat for their own faults. I mean, think about it. Feminism has been there for so many decades, but suddenly it took one bald funny looking man with a lambo to change all these men's mind in just a few years? It's ridiculous to even think about.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/24 12:03 PM
1

I would call this as far as sabotaging women. It's evident that there are clear rules in our society, but women refuse to abide these as it doesn't deliver all women a good deal in life. However, the women who do abide these rules get away with as little effort as possible, because of the lack of competition.
/r/MensRights04/07/24 06:25 PM
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They are the monster they are fighting against. It's a waste of time to have a discussion with someone who never looks into the mirror.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/24 11:34 PM
6

The way the male role is depicted as free, but is restricted to working hard and full of responsibilities. We don't actually have any other options to choose from. The male role is always defined by women depending on what they want from men (Which we consider as bare-minimum), but we have no say in how women should be in society, because that is oppressive. This really leaves a huge burden on men as the standards that men uphold is really high (think Looksmaxx), while barely get anything on the…
/r/MensRights03/07/24 11:05 PM
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Let's assume here that all these women take the best potential jobs. Then what? Who is going to do other jobs? There are plenty lower class jobs that they could preach as well, but nobody wants to do those jobs. It's a recipe for disaster over a whole society.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/24 08:26 PM
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Their entire perspective of men is like a bunch of bees in a beehive. We work, provide, support and sacrifice in society without needing external motivation. They're struggling to find a reason or something to reciprocate to men without coming at the cost of women. Feminism lacks in this way a lot and MensLib constantly circles around this problem without being able to provide a viable solution, because it refuses to question Feminism, despite its various flaws.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/24 05:15 PM
2

Inclusivity, as long as I accept you.
/r/MensRights02/07/24 07:47 PM
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People take these dumb labels still seriously? Come on. People can't take criticism without throwing some label at you. Just move on and continue whatever you do. We won't be silenced with buzz words, because your fragile feelings got hurt.
/r/MensRights02/07/24 12:08 AM
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And then what? People complain about not being able to find partners with similar income. On top of that, why would men want to do those jobs for lower income? This is a recipe for disaster. I honestly hope that they have a better plan than this if this is what it entails.
/r/MensRights30/06/24 10:20 AM
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Because equality can be everything as long as you set the terms yourself. That's where the differences come from. For example, the draft is not chosen as a term to equalize ourselves, because dying isn't viewed as something equal. Why? because nobody deserves to die. On the other hand, having a gender quota at universities is equality, because everyone should have a fair change. despite that it might take changes from other people away. It's incredibly easy to manipulate words like these, especi…
/r/MensRights29/06/24 10:56 PM
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What are they trying to achieve at this point? Let's say that we have put more women in that field, now what? Who's going to do the other jobs?
/r/MensRights29/06/24 08:14 PM
7

Is this the patriarchy they were talking about?
/r/MensRights29/06/24 12:39 PM
12

That last sentence is a scary one.
/r/MensRights28/06/24 06:55 PM
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We're mostly on the same page, but let's agree to disagree on the plan of action. Yes. It is a man's and woman's market, but mostly leaning on woman's. The supply for “hot” women is abundant. Here is where I disagree. I've seen dating apps from a woman's perspective. It should come as no surprise why the market is so leaned towards women. Last time I checked, which is a year or two ago, 4/5 men were ripped to the bone. It was an insane eye-opener the number of men I saw who looked great. Women c…
/r/MensRights27/06/24 06:16 PM
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How can we, in one way, send the message to improve, but also be surprised that the supply and demand is tilted? They are putting a price tag on every small improvement they make and for the bigger improvements, the expectation is a much better partner. I find it hard to tell other men that they should do better, while they're constantly met with below mediocre options. Considering that most men still approach men, It should start from the other side. It serves no purpose to set people up for fa…
/r/MensRights27/06/24 03:53 PM
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The trend could weigh on key industries, like infrastructure and manufacturing, where women are often less likely to seek work due to social stigma, Mabel said. That means it could be hard for those industries to find workers, which is a big problem considering the need for labor in growing areas like semiconductors, he added. Yes, social stigma is definitely the problem here. There's no clear answer for how to get young men back into the workforce. The causes appear to be multifold — disabiliti…
/r/MensRights26/06/24 01:30 PM
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I don't think OP is denying that. I think that OP is trying to point out that that exact same behavior (treating like dog shit) also happens to men. The issue here is that while you're an integral part of society, your work and sacrifices are being taken for granted as something that you're supposed, but that's assuming that you also make a comparable sacrifice, where I think he implies you don't. It makes no sense to have you in society where you benefit more from me than that I benefit from yo…
/r/MensRights24/06/24 04:43 PM
1

They're both part of the same coin. The issue with conservatives is that they want the old ways. It should technically work on the condition that women also accept the role they are assigned to. The entire point of feminism was that they women denied that role. On the hand, women also want the benefits that comes with the roles and leave men to their role given by conservatives. You can't have it both ways. Both ideologies can only exist under specific environmental conditions. Only the rich can…
/r/MensRights21/06/24 12:00 PM
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“There shouldn’t be women in the draft. They shouldn’t be forced to serve if they don’t want to,” he said on Fox News. He criticized Democrats for wanting to experiment with the military, saying “normal people are like, ‘Leave our daughters alone.’” “It’s not like World War II where we need a lot of infantry. We need cyber experts, we need intelligence analysts, linguists, etc. Wait a second, there are a lot of women out there that can do this better than men,” he argued. This is essentially the…
/r/MensRights20/06/24 03:39 PM
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Their entire idea for the structure is essentially a patriarchy, except you're not going to be rewarded for it. It's your duty to serve in order to be part of society, forgetting that you're what keeps society alive and defines the borders. An army without foot soldiers is not an army. It's just people who are delusional. I can guarantee everyone one thing; this society will not hold. I hope they have a better plan than this, because if they don't, people will turn their back to each other. We'r…
/r/MensRights19/06/24 11:48 AM
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Why is it that these people seem to always think they understand how men think? They are galloping pell-mell in their crusade to silence everyone who speaks about anything women related, but they are experts about men, because they have feelings and empathy. Let's debunk this once and for all: "They(women) choose less violent methods, because they don't want to traumatize their loved ones. Men choose violent methods because they are not considerate" In pretty much the the last and the one before…
/r/MensRights18/06/24 11:06 PM
1

There are countries where you get the death penalty for certain things. The crime rate is still not zero. Is this somehow going to change anything?
/r/MensRights17/06/24 03:16 PM
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The government assumes that we still are a collective. we aren't. They are still living in 1960, where men were serving. We aren't. What did people expect was going to happen when you removed responsibility from half the population?That the other half was going to happily keep holding themselves for that responsibility?
/r/MensRights17/06/24 02:51 PM
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So, the patriarchy hurts men in this way, but you're also not going to stop it from happening by ultimately voting against the very cause for the pain. Okay then. We have changed so many things for women over the years, but they couldn't even be bothered to change this. Why are we exactly surprised by this? for thinking that we weren't viewed as expandable by them. What a waste of time to still question this movement when you have gotten enough proof that they don't care. Do something with this …
/r/MensRights15/06/24 02:01 PM
2

Why does it even matter at this point? Over the course of twenty years, I've seen the term celibate used more than I can count in a hundred different ways. These words are used as labels. They don't mean anything. Along with misogyny, homophobia and all the other words. People are incredibly inconsistent with their language usage.
/r/MensRights14/06/24 11:50 PM
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Women want symmetric roles for both genders, but it fundamentally neglects attraction as the very reason why there is inequality in the first place. All men and women cannot be equally treated, because not all men and women are equally attractive. There is clear hierarchy. In one way, women try to remove hierarchy, but at the same time, promotes hierarchy. You cannot call men equal and unattractive at the same time. You can, but then you would be ignoring the importance of attraction in the firs…
/r/MensRights14/06/24 05:14 PM
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When you look at the general complaint about dating and work, you'll quickly notice that the initial inequality stems from dating, which quickly drops the bigger reason for people to be productive. You're destined to get an unattractive or low earning partner, Why work hard or sacrifice anything for that partner when you actually don't want that person. When you look at women's side, their issues are identical. They want an equal partner, but what they don't mention between the lines is a man th…
/r/MensRights13/06/24 04:19 PM
15

Their entire viewpoint is pretty much: Let's keep feminism and find something that keeps men happy. There is zero room there to criticize feminism, because they assume that feminism already has an rock-solid ideology. Can't take that subreddit seriously. They view men as broken women.
/r/MensRights12/06/24 10:23 PM
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Doesn't it get tiring to play victim? Sigh..
/r/MensRights12/06/24 05:57 PM
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It's not even that they just in the weight area. They're trying to get away with mediocrity in every area. A woman makes mistakes, a man is incompetent. It's always the expectation that men are consistent, but women want to be free from this responsibility. It's nothing, but pure laziness on their part.
/r/MensRights12/06/24 12:18 AM
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I don't do anything. I just don't associate myself with any feminist. It's feminists who constantly enter every community or group and try to infect everyone with their ideology and set everyone up against each other to gain control. I just don't let them speak to me. You don't have to talk or associate with me. People are free to walk away as they want, but if you enter my house/life, you're entering under my conditions. Easy.
/r/MensRights12/06/24 12:15 AM
5

If you take academia seriously in 2024, you're not reading these articles well enough. They're not even hiding their political agenda within their studies. There are so insanely many articles that aren't even trying to remove the bias. They're essentially trying to collect specific data to conclude whatever they believe. It's data manipulation.
/r/MensRights11/06/24 10:21 PM
3

I've seen the popularization of working out among men as well as when it started to drop. Interestingly, I've heard women say for years that men need to put effort in their looks to get a more attractive partner. It was inevitable that it was going to fail, because it also meant that women also had to put equal amount of effort in this area, which is exactly what they have been fighting against. You can't convince these people what they have to do, because they haven't been listening. There is n…
/r/MensRights10/06/24 10:50 PM
2

People like to be comfortable. If there is an option to not do something, they much rather not do it. However, if there is a benefit or gain for something, people are more likely to do it. It's the same way how suddenly going to the gym has become more popular among men. It's consistently being advised by men, to go to the gym but among women, it's far less. In my opinion, there are way more fun sports to participate in, especially team sports that I think would make people more social as additi…
/r/MensRights10/06/24 11:45 AM
2

Women have taken charge of their lives, but their lives are also stagnating pretty much. Working your entire life for an income to not be able to reach any goal has never been a good motivator for women. They seem to have found out that independence sounds all great on paper, but in reality, it's a very lonely world as the name suggests. I don't think the quality of men decreases due to being told that they are bad, but due to the lack of potential attractive women. You can't make someone work t…
/r/MensRights10/06/24 09:19 AM
1

They have been trying to change the beauty standard for over ten to fifteen years. How is that working for them? It hasn't changed. The media shows what the people want to see. Not the other way around. Whatever catches attention is worth showing in media. Whatever doesn't, doesn't bring in views. It would be suicide from a economic standpoint.
/r/MensRights09/06/24 10:06 PM
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I think the miscalculation stems from the believe that a career/income is supposed to replace things like physical attractiveness. It doesn't. You can't change the rules of dating to whatever you want it to be. Feminism fought for independence. It adds responsibility. While women tend to say that men aren't owed a date, the other side of the coin is the believe that women aren't owed a relationship. Men and work simply can't enter a relationship where both feel contend on the terms. The current …
/r/MensRights09/06/24 05:47 PM
0

I've had this discussion with people before. The issue with Masculinity and Femininity is that these topics are inherently subjective. You can't say that masculinity and femininity is toxic, good or bad, because you're adding bias by doing that. It's strictly from your own perspective. The misconception in believing that Masculinity and femininity is toxic stems from the fact that people are inherently competitive. Masculinity and Femininity only adds ammo by conformity. The believe is that the …
/r/MensRights09/06/24 12:54 PM
2

Over the course of the last ten years, I've been watching everything unfold. The sheer entitlement and the believes that they're oppressed stems from one fundamental wrong believe. Life is fair. It isn't. Everyone one of them want to be in a higher class with someone of a higher class. At the same time, they're trying to keep everyone else in a lower class. The reason why they haven't achieved anything in the last twenty years is because they are in a classical capitalistic loop. If everyone is …
/r/MensRights09/06/24 12:38 PM
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There is an issue to that. Jealousy. People don't want to financially support women who do date. While others are getting these women, you're financially taking care of women. I don't think that would work out.
/r/MensRights08/06/24 03:57 PM
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It might sound like a good thing but in a society that’s not struggling to feed itself and find basic shelter from immediate danger but is rather struggling with an existential and value crisis women are more lost than men. I really think you nailed it here perfectly. It explains why there are so many posts about women who feel like they have done everything already and feel like they are ready for a relationship, but seem to not find someone for a long-term relationship. Women have their career…
/r/MensRights07/06/24 12:41 AM
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Right now? When it comes to dating, they have it the worst. Let me explain. There are two options for relationships: partnership and traditional relationship. Traditional relationships are not possible in these times. A relationship requires two incomes. Whether you like it or not, you'll always have to help her, so you always end up in a partnership. Because of this, if you are not physically attractive or any sort of distinguishable attribute that makes you more attractive than the rest of wom…
/r/MensRights06/06/24 09:10 PM
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These people really need to acting like a bunch of smart asses. "Raised". Are we being treated like animals now? What happened to acceptance? What makes these people constantly think that they are qualified or even have the right to change men, but the moment people make any comment, suggestion or opinion on women, they vigorously want to fight off like they are fighting demons and want to claim misogyny and make a whole list of reasons why men don't respect women or don't accept women for who t…
/r/MensRights05/06/24 03:51 PM
2

People who want partners according to their standards, while refusing to hold themselves to the standards that their partner wants, found a new term to point out that their partner doesn't fulfill their standard. What a shocker!
/r/MensRights05/06/24 12:32 PM
2

If men benefit more from marriage, why promote marriage?
/r/MensRights04/06/24 11:30 AM
6

It boils down to that most groups for men have been closed due to being misogynistic or considered a group that promotes hate speech. What misogynistic and hate speech means constantly changes to whatever agenda people have. While it might have a clear definition in the dictionary, people and groups are constantly being mislabeled, because there is no reasoning given behind the labeling. It leaves very little room to discuss why the label has been added in the first place, because people automat…
/r/MensRights03/06/24 09:44 AM
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When you look at academic research, it doesn't seem to extend strictly around this. People seem to really love turn their entire papers into conclusion they want. Academic research really lost its integrity. Psychology is a good example for this.
/r/MensRights03/06/24 09:26 AM
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I thought she was cute, but she was with a group of people, mixed sex. That’s not a great situation to just straight up approach 1 member of the group. Would you have approached her if she wasn't cute? The reason why the advice "don’t focus on wanting a women" is because people want men to approach any woman entirely for the personality. It doesn't work like that. Yes, don't focus on wanting a woman, but it severely lacks contextual information. You get reasonable treatment from women, but not n…
/r/MensRights02/06/24 02:30 PM
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I'm going to be controversial here, but I'm not seeking equality. I'm seeking a complementary relationship with women. It's close to equality, but it's not as symmetric.
/r/MensRights02/06/24 01:16 PM
14

I'm honestly tired of these sorts of posts. We get it. Those bears vs men posts were incredibly stupid.
/r/MensRights02/06/24 01:04 PM
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If women felt so unsafe, why say yes to certain men? For certain men approaching them, people are willing to throw the dice, but the moment these people aren't interesting to you, suddenly, it's a potential dangerous situation. Why discriminate men in this order? They can't seem to differentiate good and bad men from the start, but the moment the men , especially the right men, approach them, suddenly, they have the expertise in judgement?
/r/MensRights01/06/24 10:55 AM
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At this point, people aren't just setting up women up for failure in life, but also society.
/r/MensRights30/05/24 04:18 PM
3

How low would they want to drop men's libido? It's safe to assume that this will horribly change relationships. A good portion of people with mismatching libido. Let's assume that women have a much higher libido than men. What do you think the next complaint is going to be? Men not wanting enough sex with women? You would have to be really that stupid to do that.
/r/MensRights29/05/24 10:16 AM
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I think you hit he nail on the head. Does anyone remember Xena? That was pretty bad ass for its time. It's the constant need to send a sort of moral/political message and base the movie around that. Of course, it doesn't fit the environment then. I think hollywood has a hard time being creative as well. The number of same "popular" movies we have been getting over the years is pretty evident.
/r/MensRights29/05/24 09:57 AM
3

It seems that regardless of whether women would date a man or a woman, the leading part seems to be always intrinsic to the other party. Leading is not fun, because you are the first initiator of everything. On the other hand, women have no problem iniating divorce. It seems odd that these gender roles are still expected, despite that the other gender is not that specific gender.
/r/MensRights29/05/24 07:42 AM
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Most of these funds will be directed by stellar women working on issues related to female and LGBTQ education, empowerment and health, both in the U.S. and overseas. Yep.
/r/MensRights28/05/24 06:47 PM
3

I find it so interesting that people are so against Tate. Let me elaborate. Feminism has been going on for decades. Women have been trying to teach men for so long to do the right things. Can you imagine? Decades of indoctrinating young men, because women know and understand men. They know how they can transform them in this ideal caricature that fits right in their utopic world where there is no harm, no foul. Women live in peace. Men become equal partners with women. You get the point. And the…
/r/MensRights27/05/24 11:10 PM
2

I understand. You want to have that feeling of camaraderie with your friends again. You're right that people do change to the extreme now. They helped you grow and allow them for the moment that they have their significant other to grow together. I do still think that your friend needs to put at least a foot to keep this friendship alive if you matter to him. I'm certainly think you are right in your view and how you feel about this. I think this situation tends to be the reason why people tend …
/r/MensRights27/05/24 12:47 AM
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It is hard to have time left when all you do is work and then whatever time there is, is being spent on the girlfriend. I'm pretty sure whenever they have time left, they're most likely spending it on their personal hobbies like gaming. I can understand your frustration, but I honestly believe that you should be happy for your friends. People need to choose their priorities. As much as you might not be their primary priority, it doesn't mean that they don't care. Perhaps your friends are much mo…
/r/MensRights26/05/24 11:49 PM
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Feminists are con-women. Making false promises and then blaming the other side for not holding themselves to those promises they didn't make. The easiest way to prove this is to ask, who said or promised that men were going to be held to that standard? The answer is always the same: it's normal/it's basic. It's not an answer to the question. Men didn't say yes. They simply said one day: men need to do x, y and z. It's bare-minimum. Nobody agreed on it. It was suddenly enforced as if it was a law…
/r/MensRights25/05/24 03:53 PM
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And indeed that was the premise: you must be willing to die so that in return, you can get married and have children. I wouldn't say enslaved, but working for the system as you stated here, there is a reward. Men have always somewhat been disposable, but in return, you got a lot more than just basic things. Now, we have to share the fruits of our labor with others who barely come close to that work, because human rights, feminism, lgbt whatever. Everybody wants to profit from the fruits of the l…
/r/MensRights24/05/24 05:46 PM
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It's also okay to just tell people that it is okay to be single. It is a much better positive attitude to have than to imply that it is their own fault for not finding the partner they deem enough for them. People don't want a relationship with someone they don't find attractive. You're exactly trying to make people settle for less (once again). There are great women out here (when you drop your standards to the floor) with great intentions and great personality. It is pretty bad out there if yo…
/r/MensRights24/05/24 03:34 PM
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A lot of people are doing the work for quality. It doesn't mean that they end up finding quality. It's a competition and you're here essentially saying that losers don't win, because they didn't work hard enough when there aren't even enough golden trophies to give the winners. You're here downplaying people's work and act like it is entirely their fault when the result is equally dependent on the number of qualitative women there are. Miss me with your "not my problem" attitude. They're not out…
/r/MensRights24/05/24 03:21 PM
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What most of us are doing isn't working, because it is beyond our control. You want people to settle. That's never going to work, especially after the developments of the last decade where people were pushed into the corner to become better for women for free. People purposefully tried to make men improve for women. It didn't mean that men were getting a better deal, but just meant that men were held to a higher standard. Try flipping that script. Women have been sleeping instead of trying to im…
/r/MensRights24/05/24 02:45 PM
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While I agree with your general sentiment, you're forgetting an important thing here. What are the real odds for people to achieve this? There isn't an infinite supply of attractive women, especially in your own area. A bit of an exaggeration, but it's like taylor swift preaching for everyone to work hard, because everyone can achieve success. I think that a lot of people have come to the point of realization that.. hold up.. regardless of the amount of work you do, you're still not getting what…
/r/MensRights24/05/24 11:52 AM
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Sounds good if they don’t continue to cuckhold us with raising Chad’s byproducts and then taking us to the cleaners later in family court. I don't think that people are okay with them even if they changed. The additional issue here is that in the last decade, men also had to adapt to the new demands these women had, because the average man wasn't enough. The average man also have learnt to be severely independent from these women. The standard for the average man rose. Inevitably, the average ma…
/r/MensRights23/05/24 05:16 PM
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It's interesting that people can continuously switch from one mood to another. We don't need men to reproduce, but we also kinda want men if they change to whatever we want. I don't want to burst these people's bubble, but the desire for a partner is still there in their brain. This is a quick fix for their problem.
/r/MensRights23/05/24 12:50 AM
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People seem to have this view on tradwife from the perspective of a middle-class wife. Most women who ended up in traditional relationship didn't exactly have this financial advantage. You will sweat a lot for a not so fancy lifestyle in reality. Someone mentioned this in the past before, This isn't real. This is middle-class tradwife cosplaying.
/r/MensRights22/05/24 09:43 PM
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We're just getting started and it's a slow process, because of how little influence you have compared to the other side. You work with what you have. I think that we have done a decent job with the little space there is for men on most platforms.
/r/MensRights22/05/24 01:27 PM
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I think that we should make an anti anti men's sub to counteract this.
/r/MensRights21/05/24 05:39 PM
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Very easy to answer. People believe in equality. Equality can be equal on whatever terms you want. All homeless men are equal to all hard working women. How? They are humans with personality, thus they should date each other. It's incredibly easy to manipulate people in believing that they are doing the right thing as long as you keep it as vague as possible. Working men and Working women are not necessarily equal when it comes to dating. Financially, they are equal, but attraction-wise, they ar…
/r/MensRights19/05/24 03:15 PM
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Let's say it exists, what do you propose to replace it? Everybody loves destroying every intricate structure of our society, but nobody seems to offer a viable solution that satisfies both sides. A lot of the arguments seem to be boil down to: nobody should have to do it. How is the job going to be done then? Also, Feminism does not care whether men are victims of the patriarchy. They are doing EXACTLY the same thing as the patriarchy. The only difference here is that women get better circumstan…
/r/MensRights19/05/24 01:31 PM
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Their argument is that this campaign draws a "false equivalence", as "violence against men is not systemic, structural and pervasive" like violence against women. They argue the campaign si designed to attack women and feminists, and that it is in fact a hate campaign. Based on what evidence?
/r/MensRights18/05/24 09:57 PM
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Male single-hood results from inability to meet the standards of the new age of empowered women. (Side note, this one is hilarious. They basically argue their mothers and grandmothers were prostitutes trading sex for bread) I agree, but I would even extend it more than that. I would also argue the opposite. Empowered women are unable to meet the standards of men. You can't make a man settle with an unattractive woman and make him partner up with one. You can't run a society where people don't wa…
/r/MensRights18/05/24 01:57 AM
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Let's argue within the premise that the patriarchy exist and that we benefit from it. Hypothetically, why would men give up on it? The very structure that feminism promotes is very disadvantageous to men. They are not offering much of a "better" alternative. Conceptually, feminism benefits women at the cost of men. That's literally it. Even if they would kick out the "patriarchy', they still don't have a better plan. Feminism seems to be consistently want to kick out everybody in society, but al…
/r/MensRights18/05/24 01:39 AM
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They have the autonomy to choose whether they want children or not. It might not be good for society, but it really begs me the question whether this society should exist then. It makes no sense in running a society with people who only want the best part of it.
/r/MensRights17/05/24 02:37 PM
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There seems to be very little long-term thinking often times, because the premise of all of the movements is the same. Murder should not happen. Rape should not happen. Men should be acceptive of women regardless. People seem to live in their utopic fantasy where everyone deserves something, but have little interest in finding out where this something comes from or finding out that it comes at the cost of someone else. It's like believing that money grows on trees, because your parents never tau…
/r/MensRights17/05/24 12:30 PM
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Why? Wouldn't that technically be beneficial? Taking out the competition? What makes people uncomfortable with being gay? A lot of the decisions feel counter-intuitive.
/r/MensRights16/05/24 06:22 PM
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I don’t know in the west but in other countries there is high risk of mob if men dress out of the norm. Second they are taught from childhood what masculinity is and how real men dress so they feel ashamed if they dress out of that masculine dress. Why?
/r/MensRights16/05/24 06:16 PM
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Most men are not interested because they grew up being told their purpose is only workers and not to take care of themselves and second they afraid of being accused of gay. We need to educate and create awareness first. I can somewhat agree with the gay argument, but your first argument doesn't sit me right. Let's assume that they do want to take care of themselves and don't view it as gay. How are you going to put more men in the fashion industry? Why does being viewed as gay prevent them for i…
/r/MensRights16/05/24 06:11 PM
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That's a reasonable though. I think that it depends on the intend. Dressing up for yourself or for women? I think with amount of men who are going their own way, it sounds plausible that due to the focus on themselves. I'm quite curious what could come out of it and how big the market would truly be. How many men are genuinely interested in dressing a certain way?
/r/MensRights16/05/24 05:54 PM
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The entire purpose for labels is to force people into ideologies. Initially, the entire purpose of the movements was to increase the bare-minimum for men. In order to be considered as a partner is to: work, able to do household chores (e.g. cooking and cleaning), showing romantic interest and effort. Sort of an maximally upgraded version of the old-school man. This is the base-line. What comes after is then women could choose whatever partner they want. If a man is ugly, you get whatever you can…
/r/MensRights16/05/24 05:41 PM
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There is some good classism happening, but the discrimination happens indirectly. They don't say that they despite poor men, but your financial status is usually connected to education, so it's an indirect judgement of your financial status. Judging someone's intelligence/education is viewed as a rightful judgement, because people want do be with someone who is around the same level of intelligence. Someone who is not educated is viewed as not intelligent. The discrimination based on your financ…
/r/MensRights16/05/24 01:28 AM
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Add on top of that the amount of women who were using the lift trucks with respect the number of women who were employed there.
/r/MensRights15/05/24 03:05 PM
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Anything is possible when there is a market for that. The question is: Is there a market for that?
/r/MensRights15/05/24 03:02 PM
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As much as you are right, there is a bit of an issue here. We have walked away from the "things need to be done" mentality. 1. Don't forget that it was women who started talking about autonomy of their body e.g. My body, my choice. 2. Why would anyone fight for their country that doesn't come even close to agreeing on the societal structure? Going with the, "let's do this together!" attitude doesn't roll anymore.
/r/MensRights15/05/24 01:53 PM
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The issue is now that people seem to conflict independence/having an income with sexual attraction. Technically, everyone went MGTOW. Everyone offers the same thing and there are only a few things differentiation people from each other, where certain attributes are more in demand/valuable than others. Women gave up certain activities, such as household chores as a form of leverage, Meaning that they have limited the amount of things you can ask from them. People seem to constantly make income or…
/r/MensRights14/05/24 06:37 PM
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Why are there so many women into "virtue signaling"? Why do you not see as many men do this? There seems to be some form of social gain by showing how good your character is, but it makes no sense for men not to do it as much.
/r/MensRights14/05/24 11:19 AM
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I do not necessarily know about you, but every single woman thet I have ever encountered with strained/lack of relationships with men turned out to be an extreme "Radical Feminist" and generally speaking, all around negative presence with beliefs that all men are somehow opportunistic and secret predators in a mission to take advantage of women. Are they not? The issue is that approaching someone romantically and approaching someone friendly are two different activities. There is an ulterior mot…
/r/MensRights13/05/24 07:15 PM
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Two key points here: 1. Diverting hate. Not solving it, but diverting it to do damage control for the changes they wanted to apply. 2. I love that there is constant mention that people like andrew tate seem to have made men misogynistic. Anyone over at least 20 - 30 knows that there were incels and men's issues all over the place, but they were put down by labels such as misogyny. It seems consistently going over the head that misogyny doesn't just blatantly grow out of nothing. People must be h…
/r/MensRights12/05/24 11:33 PM
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My advice? Talk. I'm talking about talking without boundaries. It seems clear that people here have absolutely nothing to lose. What are you going to lose? Respect? People already don't have it for you. Women? They already don't give a shit about you. Governments already screw you over from all sides with policies like conscription. All these dumb movements and institutions feed on the very fact that everyone seems to be scared to talk. Their biggest fear is that everybody would talk. People are…
/r/MensRights12/05/24 04:43 PM
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There is another point to make here, which can be also given to emotional labor. Just because you see it as a problem doesn't mean I necessarily see it as a problem. It can look like you do more work, because you are cleaning things more in depth, because of how much it might bother you more than me.
/r/MensRights12/05/24 02:49 PM
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I don't think we need male spaces, but a new male society where we filter out with those who don't follow our norms and values.
/r/MensRights12/05/24 01:46 AM
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Good luck convincing the youth in fighting a war they didn't choose nor want to fight. My body, my choice. Just like how the Ukrainian women escaped the war. This is political suicide.
/r/MensRights11/05/24 11:25 PM
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Let's say that hypothetically there was a patriarchy. is this patriarchy also in Ukraine? People always seem to say that the patriarchy hurts men. What have women exactly done to stop that patriarchy? They could literally protest against that patriarchy and stop sending men to die in that pointless war, but they don't. It doesn't matter whether there is a patriarchy or not, because at the end of the day, they won't stop it. Women hate every dominant force that exist, but have absolutely no probl…
/r/MensRights11/05/24 02:54 AM
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Patriarchy never made sense. Men are in control, but they are also negatively affection each other and victims at the same time. The top men are controlling the bottom men, but we're also not allowed to walk away from our gender role and by that, walk away from the patriarchy.
/r/MensRights11/05/24 12:28 AM
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There are two issues here. 1. You're creating a new addiction for people, while we are trying to walk away from these sorts of addictions as possible. Don't try to quench your thirst in new ways, but try to take satisfaction from the fact that you are actually not that dependent when you try to have a bit of discipline. As they always say; go monk. It takes a lot of self-control to not be distracted. You're handing your loneliness/neediness over to other people. People. are. Corrupt. They will t…
/r/MensRights11/05/24 12:24 AM
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When you look at feminism, the entire point of work was to become independent from men. The illusion in this scenario was that if they got a high earning job, they were going to find a man of their caliber and taste, a high quality of life and avoid household chores or as they call it "unpaid labor". My speculation is that it is has to do with how mundane jobs can be. There is not much of an up-going ladder to better in jobs like there is in many things in life. In jobs, the process of going uph…
/r/MensRights09/05/24 02:16 PM
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"The stereotype is still there that guys want to get all the girls and they want to dominate the sporting field ... they want to be a dominant person," he says. "But that's not everyone in the room." What is it that they want? Young boys don't want to get all the girls? How do you confirm that? As far as I know, they have high testosterone levels which makes them want them more than anyone. If they don't want to be a dominant person, what do they want to become then? Submissive? Where do they ma…
/r/MensRights09/05/24 11:56 AM
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It's hatred towards men not holding up a deal men never made with women. Women made a deal with feminism that men were going to adapt for women to make them happy. Men didn't adapt, because why would they? Men already aren't getting anything in return. The only thing it does, is increasing the norm for men to be average or acceptable, but it changes nothing for women. Women don't suddenly become more attractive. Nobody is going to adapt to suddenly work harder for the other, especially not when …
/r/MensRights09/05/24 12:34 AM
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This is too vague. What does that mean? Fair treatment? We seem to constantly colliding what the right treatment is, because we seem to always view everything either only from a man or a woman's perspective. Never both. There is no fairness, because life inherently isn't fair. Every man isn't going to have the best job. Every woman isn't going be able to fulfill the beauty standard. When you analyze both perspectives, it seems clear that both genders want certain things from each other, but one …
/r/MensRights09/05/24 12:26 AM
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You're saying two interesting things here: believe theire value comes from financial success. society wants working machines that don't complain about this modern form of slavery. People seem so comfortable in asking a man to work to provide an additional income to the relationship, despite that you most likely rather not financially invest in, meaning that this is not a choice, but an obligation to something you don't want to participate in. On the other hand, I can't think of anything remotely…
/r/MensRights07/05/24 05:57 PM
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I'm going to be dead honest here; Nothing The issue here is that people have become independent in such a way that in order to find a partner who is better than you(thus dating someone who you think benefits you more than being alone) depends on your genetics and personality. The man and woman both needs to feel attraction to each other and differentiate themselves from other people in their own gender group. Considering how we strived for equality and how hard everyone has been working to have …
/r/MensRights06/05/24 12:03 AM
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Anyone? Anywhere? I mean, people aren't that bad when you introduce yourself to them.
/r/MensRights04/05/24 01:01 AM
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I'm pretty sure my advice is not going to help, but design your profile for that purpose? Intention and first impression is everything. Moreover, why not approach people to talk?
/r/MensRights04/05/24 12:24 AM
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friendly or dating wise?
/r/MensRights04/05/24 12:04 AM
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What is the point of this sort of question? Getting back at them?
/r/MensRights03/05/24 12:50 PM
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Honestly, If I was an Australian tax payer, I would be furious. Imagine paying taxes for it to go to promote a "healthy masculinity". A term that is entirely defined by women meaning you're doing things that you don't actually want to do entirely for the benefit for women. Where do they even spend their money on to "promote"? What are actual actions they take and why haven't they still achieved the results they want? At some point, you would realize that people actually don't want that "healthy"…
/r/MensRights03/05/24 11:26 AM
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Let's say that you got some matches, but they were incredibly ugly. Would you have been happier? I think that some of you really are addicted to these apps and constantly expect different results. It doesn't matter if you do this for even ten years, you won't get the matches you want. Just delete it.
/r/MensRights03/05/24 11:14 AM
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Should work, but I think a lot of these groups have been removed in the past.
/r/MensRights03/05/24 01:09 AM
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Men and women are pretty much fed up with each other, because both groups are offering each other things that they don't want. It's such a waste of time to try to put two group of people together who don't want each other. They're going to eat each other eventually.
/r/MensRights03/05/24 12:45 AM
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What are you on about?
/r/MensRights02/05/24 07:09 PM
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If people believe that men are so dangerous, leave us alone. Jesus christ, people are really milking the shit out of their victim mentality. Leave men alone. You don't need to interact with the opposite gender. Just segregate yourself from us. At some point, people should realize that this dynamic between men and women just doesn't work.
/r/MensRights02/05/24 01:39 PM
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Doesn't this sorts of useless conversations get tedious? At this point, just seperate the majority men and women from each other. It is clearly the only solution.
/r/MensRights02/05/24 10:27 AM
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"But lately I am seeing a lot more diversity. More younger people, black people, women. I'm here for it, I love it!" Fewer than one in ten drivers are women: 91.5% are men, 8.5% are women, up from 6% two years ago. That is the result they are proud of?? I love how the articles are written as if they made significant improvements and there is no intention to throw the advice to increase this number intensively. If this was an article about men being the majority of doctors, they would have absolu…
/r/MensRights02/05/24 12:09 AM
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No amount of undoing could fix the issues. It has been too long that we had to wait for any form of change. There is no way that people are going to work together anymore.
/r/MensRights01/05/24 04:47 PM
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Do people still use dating apps? I thought it would have been dead by now considering how people consistently get bad results. At some point, you would figure out that it was never meant to work.
/r/MensRights30/04/24 03:47 PM
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People keep mentioning easy out on sex, but I think the question, why that is the case isn't simps. It's the rather dim view people have on relationships. People wanted relationships, but it has always been a shit hole to be in. The dating bubble burst and people got dating fatigue. People won't accept more than they deserve in long-term relationships anymore. People either want exactly the partner they want or no partner at all.
/r/MensRights30/04/24 03:16 PM
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Women are also open to variety of sizes, shapes, etc. The issue of seeing that is that there are other more important factors into play among men. Yes, women are very strict in accepting men ,like you said, under the condition that a group of men offer the exact same thing OR under the condition that women cannot distinguish other factors in men. If you are better in other areas, looks tend to matter less. It's also why dating in real opens up way more doors than dating apps. You only see a pict…
/r/MensRights30/04/24 01:29 PM
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I have seem them as well, but they aren't the majority of the people. The majority of the people would be more excited to date, because technically, they should have relatively way more dating success. Under your hypothesis, the majority should have a huge dating pool, but it seems very limited.
/r/MensRights30/04/24 01:16 PM
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Again, for sex, I would agree with you, for long-term relationships, we should be seeing a whole different behavior among men. Almost excitement to see those women. The difference in attitude in men when they are among women they are attracted to and women who they aren't attracted to is night and day. Considering how there is a huge variety of women nowadays, your hypothesis would be correct, except that people don't show nowhere near that sort of behavior. They aren't excited to see those wome…
/r/MensRights30/04/24 01:02 PM
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Not very fond of it. It's very hypocritical in a lot of aspects. Most of the time, not preaching what they're teaching.
/r/MensRights29/04/24 11:13 AM
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Because we're seen as a bunch of tools in society whose only job is to work like a bunch of bees in a beehive.
/r/MensRights29/04/24 10:06 AM
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I think this is applicable for most countries. Nobody agreed on dual-income to be a necessity, but suddenly became the norm like that to pay for this high living cost. It doesn't help in terms of partner selection for people who expect more than just working when any partner already expects you to scrape the other half of the necessary income by. Working is not necessarily viewed as a quality in dating, but a necessity to be viewed as a person if that makes sense.
/r/MensRights29/04/24 08:37 AM
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As I mentioned before, working doesn't get you higher in the food chain, but allows you to enter the food chain. What ladder are people climbing to get good looks too? They don't. Regardless of what man you choose, they're expected to work, but it's not true for good looks. It's something that is always included regardless, which is why I said that the bar feels so high for people. Strictly my opinion, but I think that nobody anticipated that working was going to be a quality to ask for in a wom…
/r/MensRights29/04/24 08:09 AM
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Young men have a lower voter turnout than women, and these gendered differences have increased over time. At the general election in 2021, 59.2 per cent of men ages 20–24 exercised their right to vote. Among women in the same age group, voter turnout was 72.0 per cent. Surveys of attitudes to freedom of expression indicate that more men than women find that freedom of expression is limited. It is particularly men who believe that ‘political correctness’ is a major problem in Norway. Really? You …
/r/MensRights29/04/24 12:32 AM
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What bothers me is the way men are being more than just objectified than women nowadays. Women are objectified by looks, men are objectified by work. Making the base-line standard for men to work doesn't sit me right. You have to at least work to date someone, but it doesn't measure the quality of the partner so to speak. You need to do more than just work in order to set yourself higher in the food chain, but for women, it doesn't seem to run like that. You either look good or you don't, but th…
/r/MensRights28/04/24 09:49 PM
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My advice? Interact with everyone, but be insanely selective with the people you interact on a deeper level, especially when it comes to dating. Romantic gestures are only for those you want, so I tend to keep everything very lightly. It's the small difference between friendships and romantic relationships. Selectivity in people is the key for all of issues, whether it is dating or men's rights. I am a fundamentally believer that a lot of guys aren't necessarily doing anything wrong in dating, b…
/r/MensRights28/04/24 06:35 PM
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One way to solve this problem is by start rejecting people systematically. One fundamental way that a lot of movements cause for this disorganization is by flat out denying your problems and your believes. Believing isn't an issue, but when you start taking a believe as the "truth", you're bound to starting your own community of people to work together, because every other believe is more or less being kicked out. You want to solve this issue? Kick every person out who doesn't believe in youe ca…
/r/MensRights28/04/24 04:19 PM
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Might as well burn your passport. What is the point of fighting for a country that is already dying and entirely depending on you, while not given the benefits for it. 2012 was the year for equality, 2024 seems to be the year to ignore it.
/r/MensRights28/04/24 04:10 PM
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The issue is that feminism made false promises towards women about changing men in such a way that makes women happy. Again, towards women. Nobody asked men about anything. When men refuses to adapt accordingly, men got fingers pointed at them for not making those promises come true. Shortly, they made a deal with the devil and now people want their soul back.
/r/MensRights27/04/24 07:44 PM
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What does that even mean? Logistics or front line?
/r/MensRights27/04/24 07:32 PM
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It's entitlement to a better life/higher class, because they worked. It's nothing more than that. Nobody told them to hang out with a bunch of elites. Haven't people had history in class to know that the elites weren't the most beneficial people, ever. People want to be handed the opportunity to a higher class in exchange for nothing. People seem to make these consecutive mistakes in life and now want to cry after they handed their soul to the devil. How can you possibly feel sorry for these peo…
/r/MensRights27/04/24 10:52 AM
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It´s a pseudo-class war. It's about setting all women to a higher/equal class, so they all get a decent life. Again. For women. Someone needs to be in a lower class in order for others to be in a higher class. Guess who they want to put in the lower class and provide everything. Men.
/r/MensRights27/04/24 10:40 AM
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Because if women love one thing, it is abuse of beneficence and autonomy. Everybody loves autonomy, until other people have autonomy. Then suddenly, you´re the devil in their eyes, because you should do the right thing and accept people for who they are.
/r/MensRights27/04/24 09:41 AM
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This is essential of the problem. You can't go up as a man. You're either marrying average or below with regards to looks, income, etc. What is exactly the point of working hard when you don't get rewarded for it? You can't run a system like that. Regardless whether we change laws or anything really, the point stands that hard work has become "basic". It's like water, we're so used to getting it that it doesn't have much meaningful value until we close the taps.
/r/MensRights26/04/24 05:11 PM
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The difference in behavior towards a man she likes and a man she is with who wasn't her initial/actual choice is night and day. You see that when you first meet someone. Some people have to fight tooth and nail to keep her attention, while others can make as many mistakes as they want.
/r/MensRights26/04/24 12:18 AM
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I disagree. Men were acceptive of average. Yes, everyone has their flaws yadayadayada, whether it is weight, body shape, etc. Saying that they are accepting is further from the truth. People are definitely way more critical than ever. You just don't hear them talk about it, because it is not a good look to criticize someone like that. I'm talking strictly about long-term potential. When it comes to sex, sure, I agree.
/r/MensRights26/04/24 12:12 AM
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The problem with equality is that it is very hard to figure out under what terms the average person should live. How do you balance out things in such a way that makes the average person within both groups happy? For almost any complaint one group has there is a roughly parallel complaint the other group can throw back, although they are not always morally equivalent.3 My ideal would be for feminists and MRAs to focus on creating a more fair society for everyone which means at times prioritizing…
/r/MensRights24/04/24 06:57 PM
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When there is little to fight for, why fight at all? What good will these threats do? It's also ironic how this only seems to apply to the men. Sounds like Ukraine is about to cease to exist.
/r/MensRights23/04/24 03:59 PM
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Your own leverage is the same way women gained their own leverage. Refusing to do the things that women want. If hypothetically, 90% of men stopped working, the 10% of men have the leverage of work. Women made every bit of attribute they have as an asset by just simply not doing those things, unless they got what they want. Refusing the beauty standard, only willing to become an equal partner on their terms, etc. You just say no to everyone, except that small subset of people that you want. You …
/r/MensRights23/04/24 03:35 PM
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What are you expecting exactly from "back to how they were before"?
/r/MensRights22/04/24 10:03 AM
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I don't think the end goal is exclusion and segregation, because you can't exclude a big portion of the population, but what you can do is make them work like work bees to keep their support system. This then begs the question for how long they can keep up this charade. The end goal is to make every man work as hard as they can to become the perfect man for every woman. At this point, it doesn't matter what feminism or women or whoever to solve this gender issue. The moment women pushes infinite…
/r/MensRights22/04/24 12:35 AM
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Have you tried filtering your social circle? One of the main essence of a lot of movements seem to be calling people names to alienate them. Alienation of an entire movement by social disassociation. You don't talk about their movements/problems and if that doesn't work, you don't talk to them at all. Perhaps, this should technically do the trick to get attention towards men's rights.
/r/MensRights21/04/24 03:53 PM
1

Personally, I have a bit of a problem with the gay community. not for being gay, but for co-inspiring with feminists.
/r/MensRights21/04/24 03:16 PM
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Considering how the economy is deteriorating, you won't be able to sustain this system like this. Everything is being pulled towards women, but again, you can't do that forever. You need people to hold up that support system. The system isn't doing much to motivate these men to sustain it. The only thing they can do is pull tons of tax tricks to empty everyone's pockets. Can't do that forever either. People mentioned the influence of simps, but there are definitely not enough simps to cover the …
/r/MensRights20/04/24 03:42 PM
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People's expectations within the far-left was that if women were added to the economy, that the income stream was going to be doubled. Instead, the incomes were halved and split between men and women. That's why they hate everything about capitalism. (Physical) labor is left valueless. Everyone worked hard to avoid doing that labor, so now everyone expects to make bank. Let's not even add to the equation that the expectation is that your partner also needs to make a good chunk of money. I mean, …
/r/MensRights19/04/24 02:23 PM
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What sort of relationship dynamic are you exactly expecting? People are holding each other on a line until something better comes around.
/r/MensRights19/04/24 12:00 PM
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It's a waste of time to argue or have any form of communication with a feminist. The best way to approach this is total societal segregation of feminists. You just ignore/refuse to have feminism/feminists to be a part of your life.
/r/MensRights19/04/24 11:39 AM
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As far as I know, It has been said before that 1. Men don't protect in society. 2. Women can protect themselves. 3. You can't generalize an entire gender, thus telling men to do better isn't going to work. Good job! You've doubled down on your problems.
/r/MensRights19/04/24 09:13 AM
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"The biggest stumbling block with the growth of WNBA player compensation is the way that revenue is being shared," he wrote on X. "Per the 2020 CBA, the league must hit a certain budgeted revenue threshold annually before any revenue sharing kicks in. "While overall revenue is increasing, player's ability to capitalize is still very limited. Change is imminent." You dense...
/r/MensRights18/04/24 11:16 PM
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Who cares? You think this will end well? People are digging their own grave in an even deeper hole than that they already have in order to save themselves. The bubble will burst.
/r/MensRights18/04/24 06:39 PM
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I thought about this too, but I honestly doubt that it would work at this point. We're way past the point to go back like that. A big issue is that these women aren't wanted by men. You can't force two people to get together and suddenly make a baby. There needs to be some sort of motive for two people to be together, but there is none. This is especially the case, because of the big push from feminism that once existed for average men to become better and better, but that bubble has burst. The …
/r/MensRights16/04/24 03:04 PM
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I'm not even going to mention the unethical side of that, but let's hypothetically say that it is set. Do people honestly believe that people will stay in the country then? All I'm seeing is a brain drain towards other countries.
/r/MensRights16/04/24 02:49 PM
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This is what Feminism wants after all, equality. We are all the same, there is no difference among any of us, we all make the same money, let's split the bill. Why not make a movement out of it? Of course women will reject this, of course many will not be received well but if we band as hard as the women did maybe we can prove a point. Define equality? What are the terms that you use to define how something is equal? It is entirely dependent on what what people want. The very first term you use …
/r/MensRights16/04/24 01:44 AM
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It's pretty common, but it's as common that you pay for the date.
/r/MensRights16/04/24 01:40 AM
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And whilst there is truth here about happiness in the pursuit of real virtue, I do wonder why it is so much easier to tell men to "man up" than it is to tell women to "act like women". Because a man's happiness is always seen as a function of a woman's happiness. As the saying goes; happy wife, happy life. If they would take at least a couple second to consider that a man's happiness is measured by the man's terms, it would dissolve every aspect of their believes. From their perspective, our hap…
/r/MensRights14/04/24 10:39 PM
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They're both not wrong. The issue with data and statistics is that it can be framed and founded exactly the way you want. I could hypothetically say that the majority of women are victims of domestic violence and pick all the data from let's say Saudi Arabia, but I could also say that the majority of men are victim of murder and take all the data from Ukraine.
/r/MensRights14/04/24 03:39 PM
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One of feminism's main problem is other women. It's the inability to accept the fact that they'll be treated differently from attractive women, because in their believe, all women are equally attractive. Regardless whether the real world says otherwise.
/r/MensRights14/04/24 12:53 AM
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Yes and no. Technically, they're not doing anything wrong. They're doing exactly as people expect you to do. The problem is that there is an insane quality versus value shift within women. The issue is that women mismatch and misread their own qualities and point their own value out. They refuse to be valued on men's terms, but rather tell others how women should be valued. The actual value of desirable qualities have become rather more rare due to the selective change of the norm/beauty standar…
/r/MensRights13/04/24 12:44 PM
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Oh come on, feminists don't need this to falsify data. They have been doing that for years. Selecting the data that support their hypothesis.
/r/MensRights11/04/24 06:49 PM
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The frustration tells that people aren't willing to negotiate terms with women. After many years of bs, people aren't going to suddenly sit at the table and talk about a deal to overcome our differences. You're either in or out.
/r/MensRights11/04/24 01:42 PM
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You don't have to worry about that. They will be dead anytime soon.
/r/MensRights11/04/24 04:11 AM
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Men's loyalty have shifted. When your entire life is defined by women's terms and you constantly get demonized for being what you are, which is necessary for war, what reason should people have to fight for you? Protecting the people don't support and the unsatisfactory life they gave you? Even if the west changes their policies and abolishes feminism, there is no way back, because people worked too hard and too long to accept to be handed a mediocre life with a mediocre partner in order to figh…
/r/MensRights08/04/24 02:04 PM
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ngl, that made me chuckle quite a bit.
/r/MensRights08/04/24 01:17 PM
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Feminism isn't technically wrong about striving for equality. It's a bit deceptive though. What they mean is equality among women. Equality for women means that all the women deserve to be happy, regardless of whether it comes at the cost of men. Their equality is equality on their terms.
/r/MensRights08/04/24 01:29 AM
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It's so pointless to send them all to war when Ukraine has lost with or without the men. The country is going to drown regardless when you don't have the people for the means of production and people who are loyal to the country. to fight for its existence.
/r/MensRights07/04/24 08:45 PM
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They all love human rights, but are not willing to die for it, because death is not a human right.
/r/MensRights07/04/24 11:39 AM
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I think the biggest scam is the way feminism has convinced them. Work would make them happier, not only because of work, but also because, they would have any leverage over their partners by becoming independent, so they could choose whatever partner they want and won't have to put any effort into it. Their income should have made a man's income irrelevant., so no man would have any leverage in dating. Considering that you need money to survive, a man would have to work anyway, so a man can't ch…
/r/MensRights07/04/24 11:30 AM
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They don't and never cared. The issue is that their changes also interfere with us. Pushing the issue from the front, but not realizing that it also comes out from the back. The fundamental problem with feminism is nasty interplay between morality and equality. Sometimes, things are thrown under the morality clause and other things are thrown under equality depending on your needs. The problem of that is that the morality/autonomy argument can quickly undermine equality. For instance, sex is not…
/r/MensRights05/04/24 11:19 PM
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facts? When was the existence of a patriarchy ever proven?
/r/MensRights05/04/24 10:45 PM
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What should they spend their money and time on? If you want to redirect this sort of thing, you're going to need an alternative, especially when we're talking about men who are high on hormones. I'm wondering whether this can also backfire on us. You know, we would be taking away the opportunities to make mistakes for these men at a young age. After all, there is a learning curve when it comes to dating. Considering how the birthrates aren't getting any higher and the economy is falling, the tra…
/r/MensRights05/04/24 05:00 AM
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You're making good points here. Perhaps, it is a good idea to teach them young, but also know that young men are young. They're stubborn and not the easiest to teach things. People eventually go against other people's advice. Hormones and stuff are also an absolute bitch at a young age. It's an age to make mistakes. Like I said, they're learn by practice eventually. Whether they want it or not. It's always easier to talk when you have experienced it.
/r/MensRights05/04/24 04:53 AM
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I am not going to say that I prefer that they learn it quickly, but at the same time, the trash takes itself out. What I mean by that is that they will learn it the hard way anyways, regardless whether we put effort into it.
/r/MensRights04/04/24 11:00 PM
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I was raised by a feminist and I can tell you with all certainty that this will terribly backfire with hatred towards themselves. They think they understand how men work and should work, but they don't. It's quite ironic by itself that a bunch of people, who don't want to be told what to be, want to tell young men what to become.
/r/MensRights04/04/24 01:43 PM
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Good news for the chicks that are fat, ugly, and/or old that have already been leaning on their income / breadwinner status to score relationships, not so much for the hotties that just want to stay at home and make babies for the rest of their life. I think you're too hopeful. Increase in breadwinner status also means that you're going to do more household chores as a man. I don't think that lifestyle is going to attract many men. From my observation, considering how everyone provides exactly t…
/r/MensRights03/04/24 04:56 PM
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As much as the politics affects the economy, I don't think politics is our problem, but our disagreement in how both genders should operate in society, This is all when we consider how the genders are split between the two political groups.
/r/MensRights01/04/24 10:28 AM
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Maybe slightly related, but women are like Electronic Arts (EA). They used to give 100% for a fair price, but now they make you pay the full price for 50%, cut the other 50% in a million pieces and put a price tag on it and call it microtransaction. Same idea.
/r/MensRights01/04/24 10:14 AM
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Hold up, this whole plan was your idea.
/r/MensRights01/04/24 10:03 AM
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That's the interesting part, in reality, there isn't really a middle class, but it is more about the middle-class lifestyle. The closest you might be able to get to the middle-class lifestyle is by combining a high income from a woman with the high income from a man, but even that might not be in certain areas enough. There is also the reality that women are the breadwinners in 40% of households. That will likely increase in the years ahead. 40% doesn't mean much when the majority of the people …
/r/MensRights01/04/24 09:56 AM
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"The reality is many of these women look at you as a wallet" - how is this different from Western women. I like how people somehow always draw western women as a bunch of selfless people who are misunderstood, It must be the men who are the problem. Western women really aren't any different. The only difference is the way you discriminate women based on attractive features. That's literally it. People also seem to forget that you can't survive on one income in western countries. It's not like th…
/r/MensRights31/03/24 11:15 PM
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It's depressing, because it seems like men don't get to have a say in what way they get to set the terms in their relationships or in the system at all. Now that women could a little taste of independence, they're trying to milk every man like a cow in a milk factory. It's such a waste of time to constantly question this, especially with logic, because logic doesn't apply here. It's a waste of time to uphold any hope to women that they will turn out reasonable. We're at least 10 years past the p…
/r/MensRights24/03/24 05:31 PM
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For a group that calls itself empowered, strong and independent, they certainly show you that with these privileges. Go ladies!
/r/MensRights22/03/24 08:18 PM
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If I was American, I would be furious right now. Imagine paying taxes for it to end up paying her bad choice.
/r/MensRights22/03/24 10:00 AM
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So if the worst thing that happens to a man is that a woman doesn't like him... well, he has it pretty damn good. Hold up, who came up with the fat shaming movement? Who made fat shaming a thing? I'm sorry, are we really making a whole loop here? Can't hurt their feelings, but ours are okay to hurt? You can't take these sorts of articles seriously.
/r/MensRights20/03/24 10:35 AM
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People underestimate how beyond repair this situation is. The moment women entered the workforce, their income have become merged with ours. If you want a reasonable total income, you're going to have to forgo either attractiveness or her income. The odds of finding someone who has both can't be that high. You also can't remove them from the economy that easily anymore. There is quite literally nothing to fix here.
/r/MensRights19/03/24 03:24 PM
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People's problem is that they want to not be chosen based on looks, but based on personality. The whole notion is that a woman's value is purely based on merit according to them. You achieve that by shaming someone's interest in sexual energy. They're setting themselves up for failure, because of their inability to accept that you don't get to dictate what other people should find attractive.
/r/MensRights19/03/24 01:48 AM
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The problem isn't necessarily that they don't find average men attractive. The problem is that they inflate their own value, because of the way they equate their work as valuable in dating. Feminism actively encouraged women to get into the workforce. Their work and income became a necessity to survive, because they voluntarily joined. However, income isn't the main factor when a man is looking for a date. Looks dominate in reality.
/r/MensRights18/03/24 07:14 PM
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I thought women were capable as hell? Let them build their own shit then?
/r/MensRights18/03/24 07:03 PM
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Dating culture is one-sided, because of one important notion within feminism. The believe that women are the ones who can determine under what terms and conditions a relationship should operate. As far as I know, I have never heard people accept any terms and conditions from men. When you go to a store, you expect that the store expects you to pay with money. You can't just walk into an apple-store and pay with actual apples, because you say that apples are equally valuable as an iPhone. That's …
/r/MensRights18/03/24 11:15 AM
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What feminists thought that they could earn their own money and spend it on whatever they want, pick the man of their desire and turn him into a partner who does half the chores, while still making him the financially responsible one. Absolutely reluctant to take into account that men have their wants and needs. Everyone wanted to be someone in the upper-middle class on easy mode.
/r/MensRights17/03/24 12:33 PM
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I still staunchly support gay rights, minorities, decriminalizing weed etc but I can no longer align myself with people who actively support the disenfranchisement of men. I think the very people who you support are also the people who don't support you. Gay rights and minorities are pretty self-serving. Considering how the LGBTQ+ works together with feminism, I am definitely not a supporter of them.
/r/MensRights16/03/24 01:58 PM
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Thanks for the heads up. What was all the fuss about Ukraine in the news if they didn't officially join?
/r/MensRights15/03/24 07:07 PM
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In 2023, there were 4,717 conscripts in Denmark. Women who volunteered for military service accounted for 25.1 per cent of the cohort, according to official figures. 25.1 percent of the 4,717. 25.1% of those who volunteer. What about the rest? It sounds too good to be true. Besides in numbers, in a real life situation, are they really going to step up and fight or run away? Considering how Ukraine also tried to pull the same trick, it didn't end really well.
/r/MensRights14/03/24 11:29 PM
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Therefore if you don’t favour what is perceived minorities over the majorities (poc, gays, women, the disabled) you are bigoted, racist, sexist etc and need to be re-educated You really nailed it here.
/r/MensRights14/03/24 09:34 PM
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Didn't the application start in 2012 already? Yes, I am.
/r/MensRights12/03/24 08:18 PM
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I thought they got in the EU last year? 14 December 2023
/r/MensRights12/03/24 08:11 PM
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There is a bit of an irony that we seem to be able to judge the Russians for having conscription, but presuming that Ukraine is part of the EU, also has conscription. Another interesting thing is that when you look at past news outlets, Ukrainian women specifically fought for women's rights, including being a part of the military. Did they think that joining the military was a choice? I will always say this: Men have duties, Women have choices.
/r/MensRights11/03/24 07:15 PM
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If you require state funding to start a business, are you really a good business woman then?
/r/MensRights11/03/24 06:59 PM
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I think that feminists are way too confident in thinking that they are a bunch of pacifists who would never benefit from another human being. 1. Feminists love to remind us that men created war etc., but forget how the west acquired all the resources. They seem to not mind take and use all the resources that were acquired from wars. 2. Feminists forget that there are millions of women who work in factories to make their clothes. They haven't even put a foot forward to change that, but they have …
/r/MensRights08/03/24 10:39 PM
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She means coming out of the house that another man built? Honestly, send these people in the jungle and let them figure it out themselves. You really can't win with these sorts of people. Always really blaming us for not living in their idealistic world. Murder shouldn't happen. Everyone should be equal. Always the very gluttonous people who come from first world countries that enjoy to ramble about unfairness of life, but never come to a realistic solution that they are willing to take action f…
/r/MensRights08/03/24 06:50 AM
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I think the biggest change MRAs have achieved that people seem to miss is that we called women's bluff. "Men need to step up or they will be alone." Now that we actually all end up alone. Everything is starting to backfire to companies, to society. I mean, who would have thought that pushing a group of people in a corner could end up pushing back harder.
/r/MensRights06/03/24 02:04 AM
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What issues is Menslib tackling and how does Menslib want to solve them?
/r/MensRights05/03/24 03:10 PM
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It's because feminism's one big flaw. Not everyone can be a winner. They tried to replace woman's looks and traditional tasks with a woman's income. They started defining a man's income as "bare minimum". She earns good, so you should too. The higher a woman goes in relative qualities (looks, income, personality, etc.), the higher a man also needs to go, but there is one big problem in that entire logic. It doesn't take into account what men value in women. If every woman wants a winner, all wom…
/r/MensRights04/03/24 07:25 PM
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I think the biggest hypocrisy within this notion that the patriarchy exist, is the fact that the criticism is towards all the oppressive actions that it took, but it seems that people are absolutely comfortable acceptable with accepting all the benefits that comes from it. I always chuckle at the idea that these people seem to be talking about how women are oppressed all over the world, but nobody seems to take active action to take them down. For example, those women and children who seem to be…
/r/MensRights03/03/24 06:23 PM
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I think you're right here. They want to eradicate them, but can't, because people then simply refuse to work together then. You can't remove rules that apply to yourself, make up rules for others and then expect people to just nod affirmatively. It's the main issue with feminism. Rules for thee, but not for me
/r/MensRights01/03/24 03:04 PM
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What is up with women entering this sub lately?
/r/MensRights01/03/24 02:49 PM
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It's interesting that we have side-tracked from the main issues in society. Don't get me wrong, Issues like these exist for men and women, but it seems like a lot of parties are trying to gain popularity by fixing relatively smaller issues when the main issues are neglected.
/r/MensRights01/03/24 03:10 AM
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The way we define abuse (whether it is emotionally or physically) seems to vastly different between men and women. maybe a hot take, but people underestimate how big the group of men who are emotionally abused is. If we're going to conform us to women's definitions, men are vastly more often than not emotionally abused. It's that nobody takes it seriously.
/r/MensRights01/03/24 01:15 AM
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The entire goal is to run a country, where women get a cushy office job that gets highly paid, while men will be reduced to low-paid jobs in order to equalize everything. Like feminism has always been, it's a cherry picking your social position and leave the dirty work to others. Whether it will work out is a different story. It's really not a full-proof plan. It's also quite conflicting with their own idealistic world. You want a man on your own level, but you also don't want men on that level.
/r/MensRights29/02/24 08:20 PM
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I think you are right, especially with the last line. Instead of counter-revolutionary, they use morality. The issue with morality is entirely dependent on the circumstance and perspective. What is good for me isn't necessarily good for others. So, every argument they use boils down to you're doing things that are bad for me. Instead, do things that are good for me, but are absolutely ready to do bad things for others. What is something you should notice is the way they seem to never take the ac…
/r/MensRights29/02/24 08:11 PM
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Can't masculinity be extended even further when you enter a relationship or are we then talking about gender roles? I think that people have an issue with masculinity when women are also in the picture. Masculinity itself can show signs of competitive behavior among men. I think that people have a problem with that, but also not at the same time, depending what perspective you take.
/r/MensRights29/02/24 01:09 PM
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Something that has never clicked to me is the adaptation of lifestyle. I´m quite frugal, while most women I have dated were relatively big spenders. Why is it exactly that you have to adapt to her lifestyle and not her to yours?
/r/MensRights28/02/24 10:20 AM
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Another criticism you can leave is that they're only willing to protect their rights and ideology in safe countries, but are never willing to sacrifice themselves for the ideology they cherish so much. Over ten years ago, Ukrainian feminists would flash their breasts to protest, but during the Ukrainian war, we are suddenly not hearing about these feminists. If you're going to talk about fighting for your rights, why is that not shown here anymore? Living is a human right, but dying for your hum…
/r/MensRights28/02/24 02:14 AM
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I think there is a bit of an irony in this sort of policies. Training to counter-act misogyny sounds like they know what is right for men, while these men are going to him by themselves. It sounds almost like they don't know any better role-model to attract these men to. They really don't view their ideology and actions as failure. No, no, It must be the fault of the boys who should be wanting to follow their ideology. They really don't know what they're doing.
/r/MensRights27/02/24 07:29 PM
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You're pretty much right. I want to add to this that they're trying to play both sides. They're trying to redefine te attractiveness of the opposite gender as well as their own attractiveness purely based on their own perception. A woman is as attractive as she defines it by her own standards, but a man is only attractive based on what he brings to the table that women find attractive. I think the end goal for them is trying to give all women exactly the same quality of men, while making men con…
/r/MensRights27/02/24 01:08 PM
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This is the consequence of women dropping the social contract men and women once had. It's downright discrimination of women in society through freedom of choice, because you have been discriminated yourself. It's an eye for an eye. It's legal, but considered immoral. It's clear that these people are fatigued and want to segregate themselves from women who they don't want to support by living in the same society. They want to live in a society where the people who agree with each other, thus seg…
/r/MensRights24/02/24 06:06 PM
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I think that women really made a deal with the devil here. Women made a deal with feminists that they wanted to have a career. Okay, you got it. They thought that having a career could completely overshadow the beauty standards. It didn't. There are so many women who work hard to have a career, so all these women deserve a man of their choice who also works hard. They just got up one day and said: These are the new rules, so abide them. Nobody agreed on that. They thought that they could have a …
/r/MensRights23/02/24 07:11 PM
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I think it's strange that the expectation for men is still to provide money in marriage. Yes, you need two incomes to survive nowadays, but why can't women just carry the financial burden and then we split the household chores? Women fought to have a option to have a career. Now they have it. I don't want to work to provide money in this marriage. Why does it mean that a man's work and income is automatically included in the deal? Men need to do more in order to have leverage, because work isn't…
/r/MensRights23/02/24 02:52 AM
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Even if hypothetically, these women would ask men out as direct as men, they still wouldn't be solving the issue. I think that this is a desperate move to solve the issue. People have been telling them for over two decades to do it. Now that they are seeing the consequences of everything, it is their last resort to try to solve it. Dating isn't a skill issue for the majority of the people anymore. It's a quality issue. After two decades of being forced into a corner to change into the man women …
/r/MensRights21/02/24 07:40 PM
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It is a sign of a bad relationship when it is an obligation, but you should also know that obligations are a necessity in a relationship. Certain things simply need to be done. The issue isn't necessarily the obligation, but the person they are obliged to do for. Most men don't find most women attractive as much as women don't find most men attractive, so being obliged to do the exact same thing as your friend who is with a much attractive partner (so for less), will inevitably tire you and not …
/r/MensRights17/02/24 04:24 PM
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I think the difference is that home improvements are things that you wanted, but doing things in your relationship isn't something that you wanted to do. When I used to date, women expected to do fun things every once in a while. Every once in a while can mean a couple times a week to once a week, which is already a reasonable amount to spend in a week. I don't often see men being super excited to do date nights with their partner, but rather as an obligation to fulfill.
/r/MensRights17/02/24 02:54 PM
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What do they think that the endgame is? That people are suddenly going to surrender and accept their changes? If the woman can't come, the men will leave. Do they really want to have a big brain drain?
/r/MensRights17/02/24 03:30 AM
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I think it's a fair ideology to support, but also too broad to not be abused. Feminism is notorious in doing this. Over the course of decades, a lot of definitions for terms have changed. It's hard to follow what the actual meaning of certain terms are, so when someone says that they are egalitarianism, my mind immediately went towards feminists' definition of egalitarianism. It's hard to follow movements when they keep changing terms to their liking.
/r/MensRights16/02/24 08:26 PM
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When I googled egalitarianism, it tends to focus on the definition that feminism gives to egalitarianism. I've also seen your definition, but presuming that the context was feminism, I didn't think that you meant that definition. Isn't egalitarianism miles away from feminism?
/r/MensRights16/02/24 08:05 PM
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When people mention egalitarianism, they often times mean when it comes to relationships. I know that it goes further than just relationships and that is broader than that, but what I'm trying to point out is that there are inequalities within human nature that cause for inequalities even in social and political aspects. I agree with equal rights, but not with egalitarianism.
/r/MensRights16/02/24 07:58 PM
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Egalitarianism sounds and probably great in theory. The issue with it is that you won't get people together with it in practice. Two people would have to find each other attractive. Most people don't find each other attractive. There is a certain hierarchy when it comes to attractiveness that always forces for one of the two to always finding one person more attractive than the other. The person who is less attractive will have to compensative somehow in order to balance this, but then you would…
/r/MensRights16/02/24 07:24 PM
1

I thought they were supposed to be allies?
/r/MensRights16/02/24 02:34 PM
3

I understand your sentiment, which isn't wrong, but it is unclear. You could argue that a lot of men are also unwanted. Yes, but what percentage of men is unknown, because men ask women out.
/r/MensRights13/02/24 08:49 AM
5

You have to admit that it is pretty genius that they created a non-existing boogey man. It isn't any more different than a religious person saying that it was the intention from god. It's easy to create something and then expect other people to disprove that it doesn't exist rather than having to prove yourself that it exists.
/r/MensRights13/02/24 05:42 AM
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I genuinely wouldn´t bother dating apps. It´s really the last place to find an ideal partner. If someone is that great, they would have been picked way before they could enter the dating apps. The women who aren´t picked out, are often on those apps. You´re fighting for someone who nobody ¨really¨ wants.
/r/MensRights12/02/24 11:56 PM
2

It's appealing, because it's trying to create an idealistic situation for women at the cost of men. Every man needs to work and become the best of the best man in order to appease average mediocre women who you have to accept for who they are. The irony is insane.
/r/MensRights12/02/24 02:29 AM
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Let's make this argument even more void than it is. If we argue that women between 18 and 24 are too young to date these men, shouldn't we by that same umbrella argument move the age to vote for women to age 25? They seem to be absolutely incapable of making the decision to enter a relationship with "power dynamics", but making decisions that affects the entire population is reasonable? You're either responsible or you aren't. Can't have it both ways.
/r/MensRights10/02/24 12:39 AM
1

The definition of Egalitarianism is 'the doctrine that all people are equal and deserve equal rights and opportunities.' So within that context. Espically under the law. sure, equal under the law. I don't understand in what context you want to be equal that we aren't equal. Saying that you want equality doesn't mean anything when you don't specify the scenarios. That's definetly true, so lets get some definitions straight, just so that we're on the same page. Egalitarianism - the doctrine that a…
/r/MensRights08/02/24 11:50 PM
1

I completly agree that it's an idealistic concept, that we're nowhere close to yet, but even so, don't you think that ideally, men & women should be equal? In equal in what context? If we talk about physical strength, then no. If we talk about being equal partners, sure. Under the condition that both parties find each other equally attractive. What do you mean by this? Obviously not all people r equal (regardless of gender), but at least before the law, don't you think that everybody should be e…
/r/MensRights08/02/24 07:26 PM
1

I don't. It's an idealistic concept. Men might be equal to women, but men aren't equal within their own group as well as women aren't equal within their own group. Only a small portion of men and women can achieve it.
/r/MensRights08/02/24 07:03 PM
20

I find it quite insulting to insinuate that they consider it their country when they aren't the ones fighting for it. Remember; Men have duties, women have choices.
/r/MensRights07/02/24 12:35 PM
37

Imagine having so little problems that you call out microaggressions as a problem. They don't have problems. They are bored.
/r/MensRights07/02/24 01:37 AM
4

It's mostly about disciplining yourself. Ignoring the temptation. Knowing that the consequences will be heavy on you. Rarely to never jerking off helps, but it really ends up all in the brain. I'm focused on money.
/r/MensRights04/02/24 07:11 PM
2

I know the feeling. It really boils down to working ethics, money and confidence. At least, that is for when you start nearing the 30s. The 20s? I totally agree with you. 20s and skinny is an absolute hell to be in. Wouldn't go through it again.
/r/MensRights04/02/24 01:43 AM
3

You can choose whatever side you want. I can only say this. People are sharping their knives. This fight has been going on far too long to negotiate any form of agreement.
/r/MensRights04/02/24 01:33 AM
3

Being bulky isn't a requirement to be defined as masculine.
/r/MensRights04/02/24 01:18 AM
7

They want (active) masculine men who will work for them without any form of reciprocation.
/r/MensRights04/02/24 12:23 AM
2

This is why I absolutely love gaming. Gaming is one of the few spaces where it is predominantly men. A bunch of men working together to achieve a similar goal? Nothing more beautiful than that.
/r/MensRights03/02/24 09:41 PM
2

The issue is that there is no motivation to go that far anymore. The goal was to earn money to take care of a family. What is the goal now? Money can only distract you this much.
/r/MensRights03/02/24 09:14 PM
11

It's called censoring. You're free to talk about anything you want as long as it is within our boundaries. Feminism 101. A man can choose any role he wants, as long as it fits within our box of believes.
/r/MensRights02/02/24 03:56 PM
3

It's strange that it is automatically assumed that a man has to work? It's great that I can provide for myself, but assuming that two people get into a relationship, why should my money automatically be a part of the relationship?
/r/MensRights02/02/24 02:56 PM
1

It's all idealistically possible, but the flaw in feminism lies in the idea that everybody can find a partner that they deem attractive as much as their partner finds them attractive. It's as flawed as communism. That there is an infinite resource. Feminism requires an infinite resource of beautiful women and infinite resource of hard-working men (when you define the term as your description for hard-working). It means that everybody gets equally rewarded with a partner they find attractive. It'…
/r/MensRights02/02/24 01:13 PM
4

The terms are as thoroughly chosen as people used to use words like "whore". The whole point is to indirectly force you to conform to their definition of a "real man" or you're an outcast to the society. It's an attack on your social status to hold you to a standard that is chosen by them. The term "whore" does the exact same thing, except genders are swapped. Don't fuck around or you're someone unworthy to stay in a relationship with. Conform or be an outcast.
/r/MensRights31/01/24 07:25 PM
3

I miss when they used to say that. Economies seem to be doing really well, right? How is the "running the world" going?
/r/MensRights31/01/24 12:36 PM
1

It's incredibly biased. There are a lot of speculations made without any proper attempt at proving us wrong. Academia has lost much of the credibility it once had.
/r/MensRights26/01/24 08:18 PM
2

So now they also want to speak for us?
/r/MensRights26/01/24 08:10 PM
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I've been banned from the sub today, because I criticized feminism. Way to consider yourself open-minded and a reasonable sub, while not allowing any form of criticism towards your ideology.
/r/MensRights26/01/24 07:41 PM
3

There is a simple solution for problems like these that push you into a corner. They wouldn't get away with this for even a year of payments.
/r/MensRights26/01/24 07:31 PM
9

A guy who works. It's strange to me that you can walk away from your gender role, but I am somehow expected to work. I feel rather oppressed that I am still put in a box. Me working is not a requirement. It's an addition to your life, so I am certainly going to expect a lot from the other side.
/r/MensRights26/01/24 07:25 AM
3

Let it be a reminder that feminists/women fought for the right to work their chosen careers. The expectation for feminists was that men would bend down over and work as hard as they can in order to have a chance with any woman, because they wouldn't be dependent on men anymore. That was a big lie. They still are dependent on men, because it takes two incomes to survive now. The expectation was that they could leverage their financial position and design their own gender role, while designing men…
/r/MensRights24/01/24 11:28 PM
1

I really don´t think it´s just media anymore. It sounds like a lot of women have terrible experience with men.
/r/MensRights23/01/24 01:03 AM
2

There is no solution. It's either letting everything collapse or you take that risk.
/r/MensRights20/01/24 04:19 AM
3

There is a big trend going on where women are disappointed that they can't find a romantic relationship. It should come as no surprise, because that is sort of what feminism indirectly promised. A promise that a woman's worth will be determined by her career. It feels for them like they have worked really hard to come to a certain point in their lives that they "deserve" a quality man who also does romantic gestures and fights to have a chance with her, while the realities of dating is much more…
/r/MensRights19/01/24 12:32 AM
2

I think we should rather get out of industries to let it crumble.
/r/MensRights16/01/24 02:46 AM
1

I don't think we're on the same page when it comes to homeless men. Even some can be quite problematic. They can be some very disturbing people. I wouldn't want children to interact with those. I cannot argue for women's shelters, because I know too little about those. Whether this is a matter of sexism is hard to judge, because we are talking about one specific case. If it was a multitude of cases, I would 100% be behind you. i'm all for male homeless shelters, but they aren't leaving unreasona…
/r/MensRights15/01/24 03:33 AM
1

I understand that there is a bit of a gender discrimination here, but considering how men are still much more likely to be homeless than women, it is also important to note that male homeless people are incredibly difficult people. Some folks are highly addicted and just don't want to get off the street but cause trouble. This is however biased information, because I simply rarely meet female homeless people, let alone them being incredibly troublesome.
/r/MensRights15/01/24 03:04 AM
9

You being masculine serves their interest. Them not doing the things that they should be doing also serves their interest. That's why you don't date those people, but date people that serve your interest as well. You like big booties and a woman who can cook? You go for it. There is nothing wrong with that. Do as you wish.
/r/MensRights15/01/24 02:48 AM
1

I don't think you guys haven't read the reasons for this petition: We propose that city officials seek alternative locations for this shelter – places where they can provide necessary services without potentially compromising student safety, disrupting educational environments or endangering emergency services. Let us work together to find a solution which serves both our vulnerable populations and our children. It has to do that is somewhat across schools. It's a fair request to be made.
/r/MensRights15/01/24 02:34 AM
2

Men are not allowed? Who says that? I do whatever the fuck I want. If I don't like something, I say exactly so. I have voting rights. I am anti-feminism. These labels don't mean shit to me.
/r/MensRights13/01/24 05:18 PM
2

That's called state fraud.
/r/MensRights13/01/24 05:13 PM
2

I actually am very hopeful. The people you see right there are people who are sizzling in despair. Why? Our societal system is crumbling and people are seeing a hold to keep their head afloat. It's their last attempt at trying to make people buy into their believes in order to keep some form of control over people by guilt tripping you. The bubble is about to burst really badly into women's faces, so again, yes, there is hope.
/r/MensRights12/01/24 03:39 AM
3

I don't exactly agree with the idea that women can still marry a construction worker and be taken care of. This is under the condition that women take good care of themselves. There are plenty of women who don't look like potential partners even for those construction workers. I don't think it's as rose tinted as you describe. I could be wrong, so feel free to fill me in and correct me.
/r/MensRights11/01/24 05:56 PM
2

It's obvious that they have deconstructed the entire system, because of the believe that it was bad. They couldn't find an alternative solution to it, because feminism never had an actual concrete plan to attack their issues, so instead, they are going back to the old ways. It's almost like they're trying to reinvent the wheel (because they don't understand it) and put their own name as inventor to it.
/r/MensRights11/01/24 12:18 PM
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I always like the explanation of feminists of how women below 25 cannot make decisions when it comes to dating very old men, but are absolutely capable of voting that has big influence on political policies.
/r/MensRights06/01/24 02:02 AM
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They can't give positive reinforcement, because they would compromise their believes and having to give more than they are willing to do. It's like you and I making a business deal and you asking why I can't just give 75/25 instead of just going 50/50.
/r/MensRights05/01/24 05:03 PM
3

Best way to do it is discrimination of women from each other. Set them against each other by making them compete based on certain attributes that men value. You alienate and set them as outcast from society by simply not working with them. Money is a powerful tool as it is one of the leverages men have. It was mentioned before that men's value dating is low. You increase it by being impossibly selective and you have found yourself the jackpot.
/r/MensRights04/01/24 05:55 PM
1

How are you planning to attack this?
/r/MensRights28/12/23 09:19 PM
1

Feminism is pretty toxic, but i think that we're a bit different in how we view it. Feminism is pretty idealistic. You're talking about equality, but equality itself is pretty problematic by its own. The most unequal aspect within the system is that men aren't born equal to each other as well as women not being born equal to each other. Biology plays a big role within our system that creates an unequal scenario on its own.
/r/MensRights28/12/23 05:56 PM
1

I'm not arguing whether men suffer or not. I am aware that they do. My point is that it is irrelevant what happens on the other side. I'm segragating the issue into gender issues, where we only focus on our own issue. The genders might be interconnected within this issue, but that is out of bound. Feminists walked away from this very privilege to call for help, since they stated in their manifesto that they don't need help. I don't agree most of what feminism is doing, even if they have some poi…
/r/MensRights28/12/23 01:46 PM
1

I'm sorry, but how is this exactly related to men? It's not our problem. The entire feminism manifesto states that they are independent women who need no man. I don't know what exactly the problem is among women that their relationships/friendships don't work out to not make them feel lonely, but that is on them to figure out. It's a women's problem after all. We shouldn't be pulled into the equation when it was clearly stated that we have no part in it.
/r/MensRights28/12/23 02:07 AM
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Let alone draft. I wouldn't rest until we have given all Ukrainian women a gun, trained them and sent them back to Ukraine to fight at the front lines. If we can't override this moral decision in name of equality, but override moral decisions that affect men, it would only prove the very point that they wouldn't step up their plate.
/r/MensRights26/12/23 04:16 PM
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That's because the movement is incredibly manipulative. They tend to only focus on what they value. That's what they deem to find reasonable and important. Whether men deem other things important seem to go straight over their head, because that would mean that a group of woman would be discriminated over their qualities. Their view is essentially that every woman is enough, regardless of what she does. That's why there is never a discussion about what the bare-minimum is for women. One of the g…
/r/MensRights24/12/23 06:23 PM
3

Purely from a logical perspective, you have a point. The issue is that you are trying to counter-act it with logic to people who don't care whether it makes logical sense or not. It's what they want, so you give it to them. The only way you can control this is by not asking out this person. I'm incredibly picky with who I take on dates. I rarely go on one, but when I do, it's a good one. There is no point going on dates with people you already go tit for tat on.
/r/MensRights24/12/23 12:32 AM
9

Our right is to clean up their mess.
/r/MensRights23/12/23 03:35 PM
11

I suppose that makes me sort of a tradcon.
/r/MensRights23/12/23 12:24 PM
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What's exactly the issue with tradcon? I'm not very familiar with their view.
/r/MensRights23/12/23 12:06 PM
11

I'm doubtful that equality could even exist in its true form. How would you describe true equality?
/r/MensRights21/12/23 04:59 AM
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I'm a bit conflicted when it comes to this. Isn't Ukraine a country that still holds traditional values? This logic would 100% apply to most western countries, but isn't Ukraine a bit different in this? It would be totally illogical for Ukrainian women to be feminists. On the other hand, most feminists are too idealistic. Their entire myopic view is essentially just saying that war shouldn't happen. People shouldn't do bad stuff. It seems that realistic situations, like wars, that are beyond the…
/r/MensRights21/12/23 04:57 AM
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A true feminist would have armed all Ukrainian women, trained them and send them back to Ukraine to fight at the frontlines alongside the men. Dying is not a human right, but having equal opportunity to die at the front lines is.
/r/MensRights20/12/23 01:32 AM
3

Being shamed for having traits that is expected and desired from you. The term is nothing more but a lousy way to redefine masculinity in such a way that men do exactly the things that women want them to do without any sort of reciprocation. Forced Selfless act. It's mostly the same for most labels.
/r/MensRights19/12/23 04:23 AM
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They won't. Consider looking at japan. Unless we don't bring entire countries to the ground, nothing will change.
/r/MensRights18/12/23 06:32 PM
1

I see the issue with accept that made it, unwillingly, imply compliance. I was rather meaning that the person should move along the waves that follow this person's own principles. There is not too much we can do, except refusing to comply to these new changes that happened without our permission. Assuming that the change you mean, is the change that this person wants, is the change is within the person's own principles, there will undeniably consequences to this that this person must accept. As …
/r/MensRights17/12/23 05:33 AM
2

Perhaps, how would you have worded it?
/r/MensRights17/12/23 04:39 AM
1

It's okay to feel like you're unjustified. You take peace with that. Disassociate yourself with what you believe should happen, but rather accept that whatever happens from now on, is what will happen. This is what is under your control after all and should give you the peace in your mind.
/r/MensRights17/12/23 04:32 AM
1

General strategy of people: Judge other people's actions, but never mine. Ignore questions about mine, but question other's.
/r/MensRights17/12/23 01:12 AM
1

I am critizing what you're trying to teach people. It seems to me that you're unable to handle criticism.
/r/MensRights14/12/23 03:39 PM
1

it becomes literally impossible to not find a high quality woman interested in yourself. You're assuming that there is enough high quality women in the first place within the right age range for most men. I might be getting a high quality woman, but there are enough men in the background who work just as hard. There is no guarantee for them to get a high quality woman as well. Are they failures for not working hard enough or simply because there aren't enough prizes to reward them. I am aware of…
/r/MensRights14/12/23 12:50 PM
1

I never said there is a guarantee that they will find an equally fit person. By your logic, going to college is pointless because there is no guarantee of getting your dream job. That's a moot point. There is never a guarantee, but considering how single people are nowadays, you're leaving people with empty hands. You can keep blaming yourself for not doing enough, but there are limits. If it was a small percentage of people who is single, I would be behind your claims, but this isn't simply abo…
/r/MensRights14/12/23 12:37 PM
2

Yes! Competition is good. The world is built on it. Furthermore, you seem to have a myopic view of what self improvement is. Self improvement covers all aspects of life not just fitness. The gym is a generic starting point because when you look good, you feel good but it shouldn't end there. Gym was only an example of this. Yes, competition is great when you can actually reward people for their hard work. You're suggesting that the losers didn't work hard enough, despite that, hypothetically, th…
/r/MensRights14/12/23 05:20 AM
2

Men should always focus on their self improvement to give themselves more options. Wouldn't it create more competition among men? Gym is one of the bigger advices you get as a man. Considering how many men there are at gyms, I would argue that people are tired of hearing the same improvement advice over and over, while still getting piss poor options. Having better options for men in general isn't something directly within our control, but more within women. I would rather say that a better advi…
/r/MensRights14/12/23 12:31 AM
3

I think that we're forgetting one important part of the feministic rhetoric, which is that women don't need a man. Why is this even a discussion? Second, we seem to only ask questions like this that affect the female population as a human/societal responsibility, but the moment men are affected, we're not ready to talk. No, then we start talking about what men should do to prevent men from being affected.
/r/MensRights14/12/23 12:14 AM
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This depends on the purpose of the date though. For sex, you would be right, but for relationships, it's actually pretty depressing how little options women have.
/r/MensRights13/12/23 11:04 PM
3

I agree with you that they might control sex, but you underestimate how much control you can have as well when you would take full control of yourself and whatever urges you have. You set an example by refusing to take less than what you think the average person should expect at the very least. Sex is a sacrifice you need to be willing to give up for the cause.
/r/MensRights13/12/23 10:54 PM
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If people would actively learn and would know that there was a clear issue, I would 100% agree with you. We're past that. It's been over 20 years. This is a matter of not wanting to better yourself due to their willingness to hold themselves accountable for the decisions they made. It's pointless to step up and clean up their mess, when it will happen again. Men were hurt even before everything started to crumble. It's not like anything will change by this. The only lesson you can teach people a…
/r/MensRights12/12/23 12:20 PM
1

It sounds inevitable to me. What are the options? Both groups aren't going to bend down.
/r/MensRights12/12/23 02:48 AM
2

You could also just control your urges and not do anything.
/r/MensRights12/12/23 01:30 AM
25

We don't have to do anything. The system is already slowly crumbling. It's not much of a win for all of us, but that's the only way we "win".
/r/MensRights12/12/23 01:28 AM
3

There is a general pattern in the way this sort of things spread. Feminism (also LGBTQ+) is essentially a two step process: 1. Always question other people's moral behavior. Never yours. When it comes to you, it becomes subject to autonomy, so quickly dismissed. 2. This Indirectly claims you to be morally superior, thus anything you say is right. Use labels, such as bigot, homophobe, misogynist, etc. in order to claim your moral superiority in a bigger group. Your morality cannot be questioned, …
/r/MensRights06/12/23 07:05 PM
0

When women say that they want communism, they don't actually mean communism. They don't want women to suffer. They think that any women shouldn't be trying to survive, but given a man that delivers as much as any other man to every woman. Abolishing capitalism removes the financial power that we have.
/r/MensRights05/12/23 09:48 PM
8

Not everyone is from the US.
/r/MensRights05/12/23 03:05 AM
3

I've always argued that we never have a conversation as men what it means what a bare-minimum woman means, but I always seem to hear the term/label bare-minimum thrown around about men like we're products in a supermarket.
/r/MensRights04/12/23 08:09 AM
1

Finding a date is not an issue, but finding a quality date to date long-term is definitely a dry desert.
/r/MensRights03/12/23 01:58 PM
2

Dating prospects don't increase over time equally for all genders. The effect of age hits one gender heavier than the other. It's quite lonely to be a woman as well after a certain age. You just don't hear about them, but I've seen and heard enough to know that their dating prospects are hanging on a string.
/r/MensRights03/12/23 02:30 AM
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I think you underestimate how bad it is on the other side as well. Yes, our side is terrible, but have you considered that the other side is playing against time? Now, that is a position I wouldn't want to be in.
/r/MensRights03/12/23 02:11 AM
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Yes, how happy single you must be to willingly participate in this article to prove people that you don't need to prove people that you are happy alone. Honestly, how much in denial can you be about your own failures.
/r/MensRights25/11/23 05:12 PM
9

For a bunch of people who are quick to label you things, such as Incel, I find it hard to believe that they are the more compassionate sex
/r/MensRights25/11/23 03:46 AM
0

I understand you. It's the idea that you constantly try without any results. I think you need to change your tactics to understand what is going wrong by starting from square one. (because I struggle to socialize a bit so that instantly makes it yucky for them) Here is where you start. Socialize with everyone. Men. Women. Old. Young. Doesn't matter whoever. A general rule I tend to take is, if you can't socialize with everyone, you're not ready for it. If you can start a conversation out of the …
/r/MensRights19/11/23 12:24 PM
2

We sure get told that we cannot have a say about about women's bodies, but men's bodies is an open book. I would be absolutely insulted if someone treated me as a unfairly treated public complain wall. You choose where you wan to stand as a man.
/r/MensRights08/11/23 02:48 PM
3

We are certainly comfortable about keep talking about men taking their lives, because they couldn't find no other way making anything out of this life. Please, let's just keep talking about this, instead of actually solving the damn issue. It's been over twenty years. The opposite side clearly doesn't give a flying fuck about wrong. Either solve the issue or piss off with your morality. Fuck the system and cheat it.
/r/MensRights04/11/23 11:43 PM
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Are you saying that people should follow the rules, while everyone is cheating the system? I would argue that it is exactly the time to do the opposite. Morality doesn't hold much ground when the majority of people are suffering.
/r/MensRights04/11/23 11:57 AM
1

These sorts of conversations are pointless when the other side refuses to listen. There is no point in negotiating with people that only care for themselves. Pick your battle. Your own life or theirs. Move on.
/r/MensRights02/11/23 07:28 PM
2

It's reasonable to ask, but you also have to face the truth. A lot of people sleep around nowadays. You limit the potential partners you could actually have.
/r/MensRights02/11/23 10:47 AM
0

I have noticed a bit of a decline as well. The biggest thing I noticed is that women seem to be very tired of all the messages online. They´re more focused on getting to know people in real life and moving on from there.
/r/MensRights01/11/23 12:23 AM
12

What is your point? At the end of the day, both groups do the same thing. At least, the women overseas would go up and beyond to make sure that you get what you asked for. You have to pick your battles.
/r/MensRights31/10/23 09:38 PM
1

Sometimes, I don't get this subreddit. Yes, we're left to do the dirty job, but a lot of you are missing one important aspect of this. You don't have to ask every single woman out. You can also Just only ask the most attractive women out? It's absolutely acceptable to discriminate women based on whatever you find attractive or unattractive. You already don't want these women in your vicinity. Why bother at all? You know women aren't going to do it. Sounds like their problem.
/r/MensRights29/10/23 04:54 PM
9

Then don't be good? I mean, we're already the bad guy. Might as well go or nothing, just saying.
/r/MensRights21/10/23 04:59 PM
1

Money matters more to me, because it takes care of my life, but considering that I have dated quite a few women, it matters to me as well to them, but in a different sense. As someone mentioned before, it is because there is no fallback for us, but also because lot of women I dated usually wanted to do a lot of fun things that cost money. I like to buy myself nice things as well, but only the things that I care for. I am not fond of spending money on women. There needs to be at least a bare-mini…
/r/MensRights16/10/23 02:43 PM
1

Societies are crumbling. People are just waiting out for everything to collapse, so we can say: We told you so.
/r/MensRights14/10/23 09:50 AM
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I will always say this; Modern Feminism is an idealistic ideology, not a realistic one. It's not about equality between genders anymore, but equality among women. There is a believe that every woman deserved the bare-minimum. However, the bare-minimum is a big list now and fulfilling this list comes at the cost of men. It ignores the shear competitiveness of nature that doesn't allow every man to be equal to each other and more importantly, that men have their own list. The believe is that every…
/r/MensRights11/10/23 03:55 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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