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discussionFallen-Shadow-1214/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/06/24 09:54 PM
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True, never thought of thar
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/07/26 06:42 AM
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A little bit actually. Yeah. I get the point but but maybe women shouldn't be terrified of men, possibly?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 11:38 PM
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That's true, that's probably why I haven't heard about misandry in schools. When I say "a lot" I mean significant to the point of causimg a problem.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 06:25 PM
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True.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 05:10 PM
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I feel like people do want to have relationships but they want something new from it that hasn't happened history before. We no longer have it so it's a necessity for people to get together so there more privileged reasons to get into a relationship and we're working that out
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 04:08 PM
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Fair.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 04:02 PM
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I disagree, but I do see your point. It's essentially "nothing is wrong"™ Most things work out for most people and that's fine Is how I'd describe blue pill ideology. I think it's true btw but it ignores how shit it is for those who aren't part of "most people".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 04:01 PM
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True, to some extent.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 03:16 PM
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What is the BP ideology in your eyes?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 02:26 PM
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So no redpill groups are misogynistic? I'd have to disagree from what I've seen.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 10:22 AM
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Isn't there a lot of Gan Alpha boys being pretty misogynistic and stuff in their classes? Would you really say that's overstated?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 07:51 AM
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Yep, that's what I'm talkimg about.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 06:58 AM
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Probably true.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 06:24 AM
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? A. When did I "push" feminism? B. Maybe try attributing ignorance instead of malice to me, because maybe I actually don't know and I'm trying to learn.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 05:14 AM
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Thank you for correcting me, I appreciate the accuracy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 05:10 AM
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Yeah, I completely agree.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 04:47 AM
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True.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 04:45 AM
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Thank you for this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 03:25 AM
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That's a noble goal but I want more for my brothers. I want them to be happy and fulfilled.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 03:24 AM
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Real asf bro, same.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 02:51 AM
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Didn't know that, my bad.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 02:51 AM
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Well yeah, then I'd agree.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 12:16 AM
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I guess.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 12:15 AM
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How so?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 12:14 AM
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Alright, I'll read this and get back to you. This right?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 12:12 AM
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Lmao, yeah I'm in. I just don't see a way forward, ya know?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 12:09 AM
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Most people are unclear about that, especially many self-proclaimed red pillers and ofc I'm not a scholar on what red pill is either. But if I had to define red pill it's the perspective that most women are liars when it comes to saying what they actually want, especially when it relates to what they want from a man. You can't listen to what women say but instead what they do and how they act. It's generally a dating perspective but it can be loosely used as a way to look at how the world works …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 12:08 AM
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I understand that. But wasn't the red pill created as an escape from the black pill? Or am I wrong on that?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/26 11:54 PM
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Credibility for what? Are you familiar with the Duluth Model? Or Male Genital Mutilation? (Circumcision) Or how rape is defined in many countries? This is some of what I'm talking about.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/26 11:52 PM
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I would agree with this, yeah.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/26 11:48 PM
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How so? Do you subscribe to red pill values? Or agree with what most of the red pill believes in? Would you support red pill influencers?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/26 11:47 PM
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I agree with most things you said but I just can't tie a rope in between online and irl stuff. Online shit is so much more insane, propagandised and vitriolic than real life stuff in my experience and from what I've observed. Maybe some of it is denial but I don't believe half the shit I see online I'd find in real life.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/26 11:45 PM
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That's true.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/26 11:39 PM
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Where can I find information about this?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/26 11:39 PM
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Yeah, I agree. I do hate the wolf in sheeps clothing shit that many feminists operate under.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/26 11:38 PM
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Can you point me to where I can start?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/26 11:36 PM
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You think Pink Pill came before Red Pill? I don't think so. But I would generally agree that a lot of the newer manosphere stuff is a reaction to feminsim or feminism offshoots. I think I generally agree yeah.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/26 11:35 PM
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I can't argue against that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/26 09:56 PM
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I guess the argument would be that the manosphere shit happens irl while XX happens online but I agree that that's a bad argument. Here's what I would ask, is there a red pill equivalent to women?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/26 09:55 PM
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Fair.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/26 09:43 PM
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Fair.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/26 09:42 PM
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When did feminism start?I guess I would ask. Cuz I feel like men had these problems before feminism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/26 09:42 PM
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So you think Feminism caused the Red Pill/ Manosphere/etc. spaces? Idk if I agree, I think they popped up because some men saw how they could profit off of disaffected men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/26 09:30 PM
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I'll say one thing, I just realised why his name is Bear
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/26 09:22 AM
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I feel like when I first watched the movie, I came out of it thinking it was a nuanced depiction of Male Loneliness, the difference in how Loneliness affects Men and Women individually, and the repercussions on not only the Men that don't have a proper way to deal with it, but those that either try to help them or are innocent bystanders. I didn't get this from the movie ngl. When you say "men that don't have a proper way to deal with it" what do you mean? And how did it show how loneliness affe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/26 08:51 AM
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You didn't give me your definition of rape Hatefucking your ex isn't taking advantage of a "weird mental state" How does that "consent" matter if it's given under a "weird mental state"? That "love" comes from a wish forcing her to love him. It's meaningfully different from anything we'd define as real love in any other situation.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/26 03:43 AM
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So we disagree on two points: How is taking advantage of her weird mental state to have sex with her not rape? Isn't the implication of her weird mental state that if she wasn't in a weird mental state she wouldn't have sex with him? What would you define as rape then? How could "forced" love be consensual? That's contradictory
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/26 01:32 AM
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You are talking about the discourse around the movie Many people in this comment section are offended by the movie itself. They're at least partly correct
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/26 01:19 AM
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Yeah
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/26 01:16 AM
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Ok, I agree with you up to a certain point and a lot of these comments are truly insane. He isn't just a poor, lonely man: True He did obviously did rape her: True He's a deeply flawed character: True This isn't all the stuff I agree with btw just the main ones Where I disagree is: "the comments are snowballing into 'we are the superior sex'"I would have to ask you to show me where that is happening. The comments are oversympathysing with Bear's character because he's lonely and awkward to a tru…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/26 01:12 AM
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Yeah that's insane. The idea that women are somehow immune from obsessive or possessive behaviors is insane. To take a stronger stance, if a woman Bear's age was in Bear's exact situation and was lonely and awkward the idea that there isn't some women who would make the same decisions he did reveals a truly perverse perception of men and women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/26 12:23 AM
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I fully agree but why so many exclamation marks?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/26 12:13 AM
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I do think making a wish that she'd love you more than anything instead of biting the bullet and asking her on a date is cowardly. But I also understand that that's terrifying, rejection is terrifying and he wouldn't only get rejected but very likely lose her friendship too. It does annoy me that people will say shit like "This guy is gonna ruin our friendship" fully putting the blame on the guy and yet will simultaneously blame him for not wanting to make such a drastic decision by calling them…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/26 12:11 AM
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So first thing, most insane thing I ever said but... You can't be a rapist AND an incel I do think it is rape he almost certainly knows that the wish is true and says "he doesn't care" and then fucks her Let's take 10 million steps back and say she really just lied about her dad having cancer. That's still insane even if it's not rape and he shouldn't have had sex with her Him asking not to cancel it is also insane. He knows enough not to cancel it so he knows that the wish is real and that he m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/26 11:58 PM
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The Democratic Party’s Man Problem
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/26 03:50 AM
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Np
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/26 01:25 AM
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Yes, society didn’t lie to young men, at least not in their actions. And it’s actions that matter. But the idea that no one lied to young men is just a bald faced lie. You obviously shouldn’t take the well-meaning compliments of your mother and etc. as gospel. Or blame them because it doesn’t work But it’s not as simple as you put it. The first advice you get on dating is probably gonna come from the women in your life. Your mother, sister, aunt, female friend, etc. If they give you bad advice, …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 09:27 PM
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Men should also receive affection outside of relationships too, yeah.
/r/EverydayMisandry06/06/25 12:33 PM
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Exactly, the “do women a favour” and “on behalf of women, thank you” feels pretty gross.
/r/EverydayMisandry02/06/25 06:57 PM
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That’s true yeah, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:52 PM
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I think you’re generalising too much. I don’t disagree that many do it for benefit but they’re also plenty that do it so they can provide for their family as best as they can because they’re the ones expected to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 05:04 AM
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Same, took a lot for me to get out of that mindset and I still struggle with it now.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 01:23 AM
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Because feminism ≠ equality. I say that not out of hate but because it’s literally a women’s advocacy movement and “believing in equality” is pretty different from that. A. Believing in equality doesn’t necessarily mean you want to label yourself in support of a certain movement or ideology. It just means you believe in this specific value/principle B. You could have certain disagreements with feminism because you believe that those disagreements conflict with what your idea of equality is. C. Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 01:16 AM
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Yeah, it’s really gross, sorry you had to read that
/r/EverydayMisandry01/06/25 09:02 PM
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True
/r/EverydayMisandry01/06/25 09:01 PM
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/r/EverydayMisandry01/06/25 08:55 PM
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Conveniently skips over how it’s mentioned Amy Schumer assaulted two men just to spin the same “Misogyny hurts, Misandry irritates” bullshit.
/r/EverydayMisandry01/06/25 08:44 PM
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Yeah, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 04:33 AM
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You’re saying someone’s self-obsessed if they think of rejection like this I assume? I agree, you shouldn’t obsess over these things like you shouldn’t obsess over if you’re a good person or not. I don’t see what people being worse not struggling has to do with my point. When I say It’s nigh impossible to not moralise these things, I mean that in the normative sense. People will always moralise rejection and attraction, to tell people not to is a meaningless endeavour. Rejection is a “bad” thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 02:12 AM
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Elaborate pls
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 12:52 AM
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It’s obvious when you look at the many cases that show how men have been oppressed throughout history, but they don’t acknowledge that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/05/25 04:42 PM
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Being masculine doesn’t preclude you from being showing vulnerability, emotional depth and being more supportive. You can do both, it doesn’t have to be zero sum. I think that’s their (women’s) point.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 02:47 PM
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But the more the puzzle piece doesn’t fit, the more it’s judged on its inability to fit with others. The more you’re successful/unsuccessful in dating changes how you’re viewed morally in society. You fail too much, obviously something must be wrong with you, you’re successful something must be right. I’m not saying a person inherently views you as evil when they reject you, I’m saying that judgement carries moral weight regardless of intention. To separate it out is a nigh impossible task.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 01:52 PM
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I agree, I just want to caveat that some men definitely say “all I want is a good woman”.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 01:48 PM
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That’s nigh impossible As long as you’re rejecting someone you’re saying at some level they didn’t reach a certain standard of “good” or that they’re “bad” in some way. Same as how attraction isn’t something you think about, it’s a physical instinct judging a person as either “good enough” or “too bad”.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 01:41 PM
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Np, thank you for the link
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/05/25 01:55 AM
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What should I tweak, add or remove? Why Men Are Leaving The Democratic Party: The democratic party isn’t communicating to their male constituents properly. The us vs them narratives pushed so aggressively by the democratic party only serves to push men away from the party because they don’t see a place for themselves there. Men shouldn’t be blamed for our problems, they should be acknowledged and treated with the respect they deserve. Don’t take men’s support for granted, you need to provide val…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/25 09:57 PM
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True but there is something to be said about some women approaching men as well so that it’s not so daunting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 09:13 PM
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Yeah, pretty true. In Uni btw, so this makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 03:34 PM
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Fair Also, I may need to change the people I interact with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 03:12 PM
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Oh, I of course agree with this, yeah. Now that I look at it, I think I may have phrased that question more aggressively than I intended, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:07 PM
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Is it really? I've just gotten so used to it that I honestly can't tell anymore, it just feels normal at this point.
/r/EverydayMisandry28/05/25 01:22 PM
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You're right but a lot of women (and men) see good men as the exception and bad men as the rule. Now this isn't something I can say for sure but I intuitively think that women generally value their female companions more than they do their male companions so companionship wouldn't move the needle much for a lot of them. What do you think tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:16 PM
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The internet has ruined our ability to judge how popular an ideology or way of thinking actually is. It is not accurate to say thst those listed are common patterns with male loneliness because as much as the internet constantly complin about how often they have to hear about male loneliness, most lonely men would rather kill themselves than ever open up about how lonely they are. I don't say this to preclude myself from getting things wrong either, but I truly think those are merely the most in…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:08 PM
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When you say that, the ways in which women are outperforming men are overblown. Do you mean it's not a big deal in reality and we should just leave it as is without trying to close the gap?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 12:52 PM
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You literally offered why we're having gender wars as a solution. Most of history, women relied on men to survive and prosper, now women are in a world where they can be independent of men and still flourish and that has led to division driven by greivances on both sides. If female biology was tuned then that'd just remove more reasons for women to rely on men driving the wedge even further. The solution to our issues isn't backwards but forward. There needs to be a new foundation that brings me…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 12:45 PM
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Yep, exactly that. They became exactly what they want to destroy.
/r/EverydayMisandry27/05/25 10:01 PM
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Yep.
/r/EverydayMisandry27/05/25 09:54 PM
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Expressing sexual interest is lack of self control now.
/r/EverydayMisandry27/05/25 01:29 PM
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Well then you’re just victim blaming then. (Despite me knowing multiple women who enjoy dressing for exactly this reason) Cakeism at its finest.
/r/EverydayMisandry27/05/25 05:54 AM
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I appreciate the support.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/25 05:35 AM
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Yep, apparently that’s “what should be done”.
/r/EverydayMisandry27/05/25 05:29 AM
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This is about how men look at them, yeah.
/r/EverydayMisandry27/05/25 05:28 AM
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I agree to that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/25 10:11 AM
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What about our shared identity and shared struggles? We just abandon that? I disagree, we don’t need regressive masculinity but just removing without thinking what happens after is naive and short-sighted.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/25 10:09 AM
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Men aren’t free when we abandon masculinity, we’re just directionless. Many men can find their way regardless but not all men are able to find individual purpose or meaning through their own efforts alone. We should discard the regressive masculinity but we need to remember even as restrictive and harmful as it was, it was maintained, glorified and relied upon up to this point for reasons beyond oppression. We need to replace it with something, what is that thing going to be?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/25 10:04 AM
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It really just comes down to if we can connect on an emotional level or not. That’s it for me really. I’d do it in a heartbeat if I could actually be sure that I’d find a guy willing to be more than just physical with me and actually be intimate and personal with our feelings together and build a long lasting connection. Without that, for all their troubles women seem more likely to want to do all the lovey dovey emotionally intimate stuff that I’m looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:43 AM
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What do you define privilege as?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 01:43 AM
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You’ve told us what we shouldn’t do, now tell us what you think we should do.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/05/25 07:33 PM
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It’s such a reductive ideology to perceive the world through.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/25 01:52 PM
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They don’t want to give them to men, that’s their thing. They look down on men who want such things, that’s why it’s bad.
/r/EverydayMisandry16/05/25 08:27 PM
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In the same sense of how a realistic portrayal doesn’t make that medium good I also think realistic bait isn’t necessarily good bait. I agree with the overall point tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:57 PM
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I’m conflicted about this due to personal moral reasons. But rationally speaking I do think that as ling as the guy made it clear he had no intentions of caring for a, then he should have the right to remove himself from any and all responsibility over the child.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/25 10:16 PM
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Or just lie tbh.
/r/EverydayMisandry13/05/25 01:56 PM
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I try to be vulnerable with my friends, it’s hard because I’m fighting against training I’ve had my whole life, but slowly and surely I’m getting better at it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/25 09:03 PM
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And the real ones are treated as if they don’t exist.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/05/25 06:47 PM
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What a brilliant example that whenever men bring up issues they’re downplayed or straight up ignored.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/05/25 03:50 PM
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Yeah, exactly.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/05/25 12:40 PM
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Because the first thing I’m seen as in society isn’t “human” it’s “Man”. I’m seen as a man first and person second. That means something to me that can’t just be replaced.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/25 05:28 AM
8

Indeed.
/r/EverydayMisandry11/05/25 04:09 AM
45

“i’m an exception” Really hate the “one of the good ones” shit.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/05/25 08:49 PM
5

We autistic out here, I ain’t gonna lie. I haven’t reached this level tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 08:49 PM
3

Is it a sufficient argument for FGM?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 04:15 PM
4

Do you realise that’s how the women who have undergone FGM and defend it feel?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 03:09 PM
1

The women you know may not, the women I know disprove that. Neither of us know the majority of women so I won’t assert that most women do this, but I can at least say no small number of them do. As for “girl power”, the point is that women are defended when they do these things as a form “punching up” against men in these ways and any attempt to fight against this, is generally shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 03:01 PM
4

By that logic neither is FGM then.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 02:53 PM
7

As a guy who recently understood why circumcision is such a serious issue, I’d have to point to the fact that people will often defend an offense done to them because it’s been normalised and accepted as “it is what it is”. There are women in cultures that defend FGM and tell western people to stay out of their business. I think we obviously wouldn’t accept that as a reason to dismiss the obvious harm this does to women. “In communities that practice FGM, people often accept it as a normal part …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 02:46 PM
2

This… Would you ever accept this study for Female Genital Mutilation? Do you even understand how invalidating it is to pretend as if this study could possibly ever defend the mutilation of young boys and babies? None of these “benefits” outweigh the material harm it does to men, that’s the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 02:40 PM
11

The issue with the “Start your own movement” advice is: A. Men’s advocacy groups are constantly denigrated as women’s hate groups because of the reputation MRA has. B There’s no support, Men need to build all of this themselves and do it in a way that doesn’t offend women and we can’t even expect any help from the people who constantly tell men to help themselves. C. The few that exist are mostly unknown and not talked about anywhere. Most people don’t even know or acknowledge men’s advocacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 02:36 PM
1

Join in on the dogpile when the guy is getting backlash.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 02:31 PM
4

Masculinity is not only a restriction upon men but also a way to guide men towards finding and expressing themselves. A sense of brotherhood that binds us together in companionship and trust. There are many men that do not need to rely on concepts of masculinity to find themselves or to find their place in this world. But as a man I felt very lost in a world that rejected masculinity, I didn't want to define myself by such obsolete concepts but I also felt lost without anything to guide me or to…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/05/25 07:58 PM
0

Which point have I tried to defend that is so indefensible? As for the problem disappearing when men stop mocking men for their penis size… Proof? Evidence? Anything other than the worthless words of a stranger?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:34 PM
6

What makes it biphobic is obviously the reasons behind it. The stereotypes of them being inherently promiscuous, more effeminate, that they’re not trustworthy. The point of calling out these women isn’t to bully women into dating bi-men. But to push back against the stereotypes used to defend them ostracising them. Simple as.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 12:39 PM
1

Ofc, I just usually leave when I see something that pisses me off and work it out by myself or vent with someone I trust and then move on. Thanks tho, hope your day’s going well or will get better.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 12:32 PM
1

I agree with this and appreciate the way that you put it because I think it’s very important how this is framed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 08:48 AM
1

People have a right to have preferences and standards according to their will. But it’s so fucking annoying and frustrating to hear these women cry and moan about how they “can’t find a good man” and all sorts of ways to blame men for their ridiculous standards. It’s so frustrating to be expected to live up to some fairytale expectation even if I choose not subject myself to that. It’s frustrating, because I have to constantly prove myself worthy without living up to these bullshit standards bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 08:42 AM

Because if not, why would we do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 08:09 PM
15

In a much more recent and relevant analogy, “notlikeothergirls” is such an issue, but this js ok?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/25 07:55 PM
22

Yeah “one of the good ones” narratives only present the majority as all bad.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/25 07:54 PM

But then you can’t realistically expect men to stick to it then. Why would you sign up for something that not only doesn’t have guaranteed, measurable outcome but not even the guarantee that you’ll see any progress within a reasonable amount of time?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 06:16 PM

Yeah, it's fair to be upset as long as you don't go too far. As for solutions, give me a scenario and I'll try to come up with a solution
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 05:56 PM

I think we can agree that there should be an equalisation point where you start seeing profit for the effort you put in, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 05:53 PM
5

The false dichotomy is people will straight faced say they don’t know what misandry is, or just don’t believe in it, or even think it matters.
/r/EverydayMisandry05/05/25 10:23 AM
10

You're compromised, idc but don't play defence for them.
/r/EverydayMisandry05/05/25 06:06 AM
12

Same, it was insane. “Like, she… didn’t mean it like that… surely…” “Right?”
/r/EverydayMisandry04/05/25 10:21 PM

I'm glad u said it cuz I've been suspecting this for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 09:14 PM
1

Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 08:53 PM
1

SO FUCKING TRUUUUUUUUUE
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 08:44 PM
1

Holy Stoic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 08:29 PM
1

Elaborate on "pathetic". Did you go numb, shut off your emotions?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 07:57 PM
2

Generally true, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:24 PM
6

Thank you, I really appreciate that. I've tried, unfortunately most of the women in my life aren't as empathetic as your family. The only women I can trust to love me without bias are my Mother and Aunt (same aunt)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:09 PM
2

Being realistic, I want a relationship with reciprocity as the foundation of the relationship. We both need to put our best into the relationship and get the best out. I want someone on board with that. Personality wise I would want an assertive, confident, resourceful, competent, kind, empathetic, thoughtful person. I would do my part to attract and maintain a relationship with such a person. Career wise, I don't mind as long as she does her part and it allows for time for us to spend together.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:03 PM
0

Damn, I've been trying to be more realistic with my perspective on love but you brought me back to my idealist self. That's what I want, even if I know it isn't real.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 04:54 PM
1

Never said it was the same thing, made it a point to say it wasn't. And no one cares about what you as one individual thinks or knows about men with small dicks. In general we can only really know someone is gay or has a small dick when we see their genitals, which is my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 04:25 PM
1

Being gay is not an attitude either, so again, gay energy should be fine too? It's nothing like being gay (except for the reasons I stated) How do you know? The same way you know a person is gay, that's how.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 04:00 PM
2

Being gay and having a small dick isn't a one to one analogy but to say "the word energy completely changes the meaning of the word" is just objectively not true. Energy is energy, it implies the characteristics of whatever it's describing. For a lot of men having a small dick is similarly part of their identity also because of how others treat them. You don't need to defend this, you can say men have small dick energy all you want, idc but don't try to downplay what it means.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 03:51 PM
14

Indeed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/05/25 03:38 PM
14

I feel like if I don't have this worldview I at least have one similar to it where I don't understand why it seems like every response to men bringing up an issue about men, without even mentioning women is so often either defensive, accusatory or even outright vitriolic. (though I think we can all agree some issues require some comparison between genders) I considered myself a diehard supporter of feminism for so long, literally since the 9th grade. I had such a respect for the movement that to…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 03:21 PM
1

Oh, so you **do** see how adding "energy" onto something is still insulting the thing in question. Oh wait, u're still defending it, so you'll admit that gay energy isn't as bad as just calling someone gay?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 12:30 PM
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The only way is to create (or let themselves create a situation) they can't climb out of without acknowledging men. It deeply disgusts me that that's truly what I think is necessary for any meaningful change in the right direction.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/05/25 12:02 PM
2

So if I say someone has gay energy, that's fine?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 09:10 AM
3

That’s one of the main things I focus on tbh. This shit is poison. One of the things I’m doing on the side is compiling info so that I can promote the issues while I’m fighting them
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/25 05:39 PM
0

Yeah you’re right, my bad sry. And yeah I am resentful of average looking people, not for existing but because of how they live the lives of attractive people (because they are attractive) while bitching and moaning like they’re ugly. It’s annoying when you understand most of the people complaining about pretty privilege directly benefit from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 02:38 PM
-1

Bro you’re literally describing how you want to have innate desirability and being naturally attractive and being frustrated that you’re not. Is that not begging for pity, what is? Legitimate question, I’m going hard on you and I’m sorry, but I truly want to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 02:20 PM
3

For sure.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/25 02:12 PM
3

I never would, but mfer, you’re fucking average, what do you have to complain about? Looking about as well as everybody else? You’re not a victim of pretty privilege, you’re a purveyor of it, it exists because of people like you. You’re just mad that people have it better than you. If you want to truly experience suffering, try living one day as an ugly “person” and you’ll know how shitty objectifying feels with no pretty privilege because they treat you like inhuman trash. Everything you said w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 02:11 PM
4

Men who experience getting objectified fucking hate it, i.e. me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:54 PM
3

Gotcha.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/25 08:02 AM
10

The fact that this isn’t banned is insane.
/r/EverydayMisandry03/05/25 07:37 AM
2

Yeah, a very respectable man who respects his wife greatly while still being masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:27 PM
1

Yeah, I wanna hear his strengths if you’re comfortable telling me. I’m curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:29 PM
2

Damn, what about the things he’s good at? It feels like such a low bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:09 PM
21

That’s very true. Men are always told to form platonic relationships on their own, and I think that’s the right way to go about things. I realised though that for a man his biggest predictor for forming strong social bonds is getting a girlfriend and inheriting her social networks. Women are just way easier to make friends with when you have a s/o And Male friendships lack what you would want for a strong platonic connection. It’s not as simple as: go out and make friends so you don’t feel alone…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/25 01:49 PM
2

It’s one of the biggest reasons? C’mon he’s gotta got way more than that to get 100% that bitch What’s death grip btw? I’ve seen it a lot in the replies?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:12 PM
1

True.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:23 AM
1

I find most porn boring for that reason, I usually just use smut or erojins tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:18 AM
1

I’ll ask that next.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:14 AM
2

That’s… so abominable. And yeah, I’m pretty aware of how fucked up the porn industry is, I have a few sex worker friends. The damage is undeniable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:00 AM
0

That makes sense yeah, I know I keep saying it but this has genuinely confused me greatly most of my life. I just have had such a fundamentally different experience with porn I just don’t understand how one could develop such a skewed idea of love, sex and consent from something clearly fictional imo. Understood.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:41 AM
1

Fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 06:34 AM
1

Threat Narrative
/r/EverydayMisandry02/05/25 06:25 AM
2

But men are oppressed too. See this is why I don’t like the patriarchal model. As long as women are the only ones that can be “oppressed” and men only “hurt” patriarchy we’ll never bridge the gap.
/r/EverydayMisandry02/05/25 06:25 AM
1

This is where age plays a factor here. I was too young to know anything except shows about strip clubs. I assume it was fine with their wives as long as they didn’t make advances upon the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 06:22 AM

I think there’s truth to this but there are many men that have levelled up, but still can’t form a connection because they lack social experience and skill. I do think it’s important to sharpen up that as well while “levelling up”.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 05:59 AM
2

That’s wild to me. Genuinely. Real people have always been “better” to me, because they’re actually real.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 05:45 AM
1

Too young, wouldn’t be able to say. I was gonna mention the men ceding men’s support places to accommodate women as well.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/25 05:44 AM
1

I agree,may I hear you first tho?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/25 05:33 AM
3

Yeah, I remember I got it from somewhere here and saved it to watch it later. ‘Preciate it, good resource
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/25 02:55 AM
3

What links that to this tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:40 AM
3

I getcha. Porn is very heavily skewed towards certain fetishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:30 AM
1

When you say it has huge range, what do u mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:20 AM
0

Real. Amateur porn is way better and more natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:42 AM
6

Lmao, so true. She’s not a person, just a convenient doll to test your fantasies on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:39 AM
2

Oh, he went along with it. They were both huge harry potter fans.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:32 AM
7

Why do so many men have “porn addiction” then?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:16 AM
2

Fr.
/r/EverydayMisandry02/05/25 12:11 AM
4

Yep, that’s why I love having these conversations. That’s what I hoped PPD would be like.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:09 AM
4

Here u go
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:07 AM
2

True.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:04 AM
2

I run in different circles Ig lol, something very similar to your example is what one of my acquaintances told me she did to her husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:02 AM
6

True yeah, glad I grew up on my Mom’s smut books tbh. I feel like I live in a different world than these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:59 PM
2

Yeah, I getcha. I just assumed that it was part of men being more prone to addiction in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:57 PM
3

That women imagine their s/o. in place of the fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:54 PM
2

Yeah, they probably would. Which is why I find it very funny why men pretend not to understand what the big deal is
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:54 PM
0

<image> This is insane
/r/EverydayMisandry01/05/25 11:48 PM
13

The main thing I realise is that men have issues separating their fetishes from real sexual experiences. This is wild to me, porn is so obviously fake and unrealistic. I’d sooner apply my dreams to reality than porn. But Ig I’m an exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:48 PM
1

True, I wonder why men can’t separate the two, prolly because of the visual aspect. Yeah, I’m beginning to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:41 PM
3

Fair tbh, that’s why I quit too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:39 PM
2

Brand loyalty is Wild I get it tho, it is a well known faux pas.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:39 PM
5

Yeah, I’m tryna find out what’s the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:37 PM
6

I both read smut and watch porn btw. Porn is easier, faster and more convenient. Smut is a slower burn but the rising arousal is much bigger overall and you have complete control over pace and stimulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:35 PM
3

From what I’ve heard from other women… This isn’t even true. But I’ll defer to u on this one, women usually imagine their s/o in place of the sex fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:28 PM
2

Huh. Have you talked to other women who care about why? Well actually, I think those suggestions you gave me came from them, no? I wonder why you’re different.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:27 PM
1

Yeah, we’re talking about the continued use of media, not the masturbation. I’m trying to find out why women feel worse about themselves and their sexual intimacy with their s/o. I’ve gotten a bit of it from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:24 PM
2

Yay!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:51 PM
13

Damn but I clear a bear ez huh?
/r/EverydayMisandry01/05/25 09:21 PM
2

True, I just think that sometimes you should take breaks sooner to spare your spirit the pain so you can last longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:13 PM
1

Oh, yeah, good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:48 PM
2

True, but those are legal discussions, not moral ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:47 PM
1

<image>
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:35 PM
1

True, why u said that tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:34 PM
1

So there’s no incentive to not tell you to shut up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:18 PM
1

Ok, talk about it then. Now will you shut up?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:11 PM
-1

I do none of those things friend, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:08 PM
-1

What privilege?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:58 PM
1

Elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:43 PM
1

The outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:39 PM
1

I just asked you if the things I listed were unfair?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:37 PM
2

Yeah but… Every single time? It always ends the same way There’s no progress, no novel argument, no interesting discussions rife with nuance just: Judgement based on a dichotomous view of right and wrong. Every single time. No conclusion
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:36 PM
1

Society if we brought back shame:
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:32 PM
2

I guess you got my ass, lying to get sex is a dating method. I would argue you could very easily fall into the realm of actual sexual crime there but that’s not what we’re here to debate. When you say “fair” what do you mean? Are the dating methods I put unfair? And if they are, why?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:29 PM
0

Yeah, but do we have to do it here? It’s like the small penis thing I talked before, it’s really fucking annoying seeing the same argument re litigated the same way and ends the same every fucking time. Can we please see anything else?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:26 PM

Oh, cool. I’m definitely not a lurker lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:48 PM
1

I’m sorry, I know this is an extremely privileged take but… Bro get offline and get some maidens the old fashioned way, I say that to all the other men too. This shit is not working, try something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:40 PM

There’s some doomerism here I think I have to push against, I do think we need to stop putting relationship as the centre of human experience but I wouldn’t say they need to get over the idea. It’s like you said, lock in or key out. But don’t obsess over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:56 PM
1

Hypocrisy, it ain’t that deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:29 PM
28

“Loaded guns” “men vs bear” we could go on.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/25 02:16 PM
3

Idiots think in terms of flat dichotomies with no nuance. Intelligent people understand that applying black and white reasoning to the real world is retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:21 PM

Bro, I literally didn’t even know lol. What was she like?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:28 AM

Equal?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:23 AM
8

Fraternities are hell, because now I have to deal with men being misandrist too, and now there’s no escape. There aren’t any male only social clubs, at least not where I am.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/25 11:23 AM

What’s up?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:14 AM

Laugh with her, she’s right.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:12 AM
2

Yeah but you also think that is the truth. You have to think to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:16 AM
2

I don’t think it aligns with the truth either. How would u even prove such a thing if I asked u to?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:12 AM
2

This video is so foreign from my own perspective that I reject it. But if any amount of men feel like this is the world around him. It is deeply tragic, we have failed them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:08 AM
13

Marriage is simp behaviour? Even if they both benefit and make that choice together?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:51 AM
6

This video is pure psyop flop, genuine delusion unaffected by reality. It’s insane how axiomatically false this is, how is this not banned for misinformation or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:51 AM
8

So he’d just sign a contract and there’d be no ceremony or symbolism? Just pure mechanics?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:45 AM
13

Oh, so he’d just stand up and do it? Is that really the contention here?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:38 AM
6

As a sign of sincerity? It ain’t that deep bro. If a woman proposed to a man, is she simping too?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:36 AM
2

I meant not-tall men, my bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:35 AM
17

So you don’t have an answer for what he would do?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:33 AM
4

You got my ass, ain’t even finna cap. <image> Still, what is this video bro? Please explain how kneeling for marriage is inherently simp behaviour?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:32 AM
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This is my most misandrist take and I’ll defend it till I die. My thoughts are my own and do not reflect those of OP, they’re retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:20 AM
1

Oh, well it is… It’s just not what they might actually end up choosing. Hypocrisy is the 8th mortal sin after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:56 AM
3

There’d still be trend towards people becoming taller overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:54 AM
2

Dating app surveys are chronically online, yes. And I’d say that data backs up my previous statement that more people are still dating than not and more people that aren’t six feet.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:06 AM
4

A. If you look at statistics most people are still dating, which mean more people are dating that are under six feet than are. B. And it has yeah, to chronically online people, most people don’t have that ridiculous standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:50 AM
7

I agree yeah, but you realise that’s a significantly different statement than what you started with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:48 AM
10

Anecdotal experiences that don’t prove anything you said. My personal life is filled with examples of the opposite, but I don’t think you’re going to change your worldview based on that, no? It’s a bad argument. If women only wanted tall men, short men would be evolutionary weeded out. There are more short men than tall men, that means they get to reproduce more actually. Ofc women want funny and good in bed, that’s normal. But to say that’s all they look for in a relationship is provably false.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:42 AM
3

This is delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:30 AM
3

Indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 10:15 PM
2

I’m sorry, it’s my first time ever asking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 09:46 PM
4

Based tbh. Still, really fucking shitty behaviour from the guy. Many people don’t understand how shitty that is, especially for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 08:47 PM
3

I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 08:25 PM
1

Same can be said about women saying “men” tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 08:19 PM
1

Prolly yeah, there needs to be work done to mend the bridge between men and women so that men don’t see women as competition but as allies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 08:13 PM
1

I also agree emphatically with that, I wish that was facilitated better.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:55 PM
1

How is it relevant? Please elaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:50 PM
3

I agree, I never agreed that women were more emotional, my male friends were always the ones who got physical over words first. This is an emotional thing, simple as.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:48 PM
1

Because they provided a convenience unsurpassed even now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:42 PM
1

Yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:34 PM
1

I apologise for my outburst, it was rash and emotional and it’s completely my fault, you didn’t deserve that. But I didn’t make this post to cope or get women to “apologise for their wrongdoings”. I don’t care, I mean that honestly. I asked this because I thought that maybe a part of the reason men think women are as obsessed with dick size is them, is probably because of how often they use it as an insult. I have my own anecdotal experiences but I don’t want to rely on them because that’s just …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:00 PM
1

What did you mean, when you said? “What I don’t do is expect all men to answer for why I had to endure the pain…” Was that a jab against me asking the women in this sub if they had ever made fun of a guy for having a small penis?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 06:36 PM

??? They don’t have to make it go away, they just have to not have this kind of sexual history, that’s not a hard standard to reach.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 06:08 PM
3

Literally never said it was a problem even in my post, just said that when you use insults like that, men aren’t gonna believe you don’t care. That’s all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 06:03 PM

You’re correct, don’t let these people gaslight you. Yes, what you listed were insecurities, that doesn’t mean they’re not valid or unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 06:02 PM

That’s ridiculous, men and women are expected to do things to make their partner feel secure in the relationship and that’s fine within reason. I don’t think this crosses the line of reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:58 PM

Just because you don’t doesn’t mean others shouldn’t. Insecurities aren’t reasons to someone’s feelings. Stop trying to assert your experience onto them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:56 PM

How does that contradict what he said?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:53 PM
3

What problem? I don’t know what you’re talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:52 PM
1

Not really? We already know men care way more about dick size than women. Mentioning they use it as an insult is like mentioning that snow also falls from the sky in a conversation about rain.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:37 PM
2

I’m abstaining from dating and I’d break it for a woman that took the effort to learn how to talk to men. That kind of sincere consideration can’t be wasted.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:32 PM
12

One of many.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/25 04:56 PM

True.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 04:26 PM

All of these are super respectful btw, it’s the template of how we want men to act when they’re turned down.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 04:14 PM

I wouldn’t use reddit as a good sample for most guys tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 04:12 PM
3

As I said before, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:12 PM
5

<image> ”Y’all” As in me? I made one post miss.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:07 PM

What’s the context?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:59 PM
4

<image> Go off sis, I’m cheering for ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:58 PM

Same, some actually never do, but a lot do and get manipulated.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:41 PM
3

Never said you couldn’t, it was always up to you. Just saying it just reinforces the stereotype the more we do it. Also, I feel like it’s fair to say that an in group making light of an insecurity hits differently than an out group digging into one, no? Women can call each other bitches, I’m not gonna moan that I can’t too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:33 PM
2

Same tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:31 PM
3

They always have and always will. Men care way more about dick size, anyone who says no is coping. (Please don’t ban)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:27 PM
6

You’re right but no one’s gonna believe you when they see you do that. The point isn’t the truth but the perspective you paint when you do this: “Mock men for small penises” Therefore men will naturally think “Women hate small penises”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:22 PM

Those happen more than you think but fair tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:46 PM

I would agree, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:45 PM

Completely didn’t even notice I did that, good check.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:43 PM

It’s crazy how you end up in that tho, I should have more sympathy for men in that situation but I legit can’t understand how you let that happen to u bro. Literally just go for it and take the potential L and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:42 PM

Isn’t it reasonable to expect that one can make a friend into a girlfriend? I agree that they should be more upfront with their intentions but still, I don’t think it’s disingenuous inherently. Also, you wouldn’t say that they should stay in a friendship they don’t want right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:35 PM
2

Thanks for your honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:17 PM

True, and you’re valid. But I’ve experienced a lot in the opposite direction where women will deliberately/unknowingly lead a guy on and then it blow up in their face. I know because the deliberate ones will make moves to assure he stays alone by giving him RT a “date” or excessive physical attention like cuddling and kissing whenever another girl shows interest in him. The unknowing ones are just naive and don’t realise that stuff like inviting a guy to your house alone or calling him late at n…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:16 PM

Fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:06 PM

True. Didn’t know that. True. Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:05 PM

Yeah, I realised.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:57 PM

Yuh, it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:56 PM

It’s a good word to describe when people delude themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:43 PM
1

Oh, I get it. Yeah, do you wanna know why? Or did u just put that for reference. Cuz I’m cool either way. Genuinely btw, Idk if I’m coming off as sarcastic or sumn.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:42 PM
2

Yeah, you put this in a far better way, thank you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/25 12:25 PM
2

Why’s that relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:23 PM
1

True.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:13 PM
1

True. But it’d still be a net positive that moves us in a positive direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:07 PM
6

It would fast track the redevelopment of third places to fill the vacuum. There’s no urgency because the internet exists as a substitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 11:53 AM

Why do you hope that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 11:51 AM

Women are encouraged to be very close with each other for a variety of reasons so this behaviour is seen as normal and also good. Men are discouraged to be that close with each other because it’s not considered necessary or good so it’s seen as suspicious and that there’s only one reason why they’d be that close: being gay. Grooming is a matter of how strict the template for being a man is. If you stray from that you’re straying from manliness. Conversation: Conversations about sex are generally…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 11:50 AM
1

And certain laws I’d say, but I can’t name them off the top of my head.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/25 11:17 AM
8

The most significant ones are male safe spaces.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/25 11:16 AM
2

Wish there was some merch or sumn lol.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/25 11:12 AM
3

At the very least, the few things that supported men have been removed by feminism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/25 11:06 AM
1

True, but I think things are worse now, no?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/25 10:49 AM

True.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 10:37 AM

Yeah, I’d agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 10:28 AM
15

Yeah, there’s an insistence that all forms of bigotry are the fault of men/ “The Patriarchy” that’s pretty disgusting. It’s misandry, plain and simple. They just need to admit it exists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/25 09:25 AM
111

Tbh this is the “what clothes were you wearing?” for men. The just world fallacy of a guy not having to worry as long as he doesn’t do anything wrong is insane.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/25 09:20 AM
6

Actually true, as a guy I’m very uncomfortable when women use it as an insult but you’re right, there’s an issue with the compliments too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 09:16 AM
5

It is to a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:47 AM
1

True.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:40 AM
3

That’s actually lowkey funny tho ngl.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:39 AM
3

Yeah, it’s literally making fun of the insecurity of having a small dick. You’re insecure about your small dick so you act this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:29 AM
3

When you’re talking about the behaviour, why do you characterise it by using small dick?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:24 AM
-4

Nope, literally actually want to know how much y’all actually care about it. And that’s a bad analogy because men actually care about those things. A lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:18 AM
3

What could energy possibly represent from a loose pussy is what I mean? How would that not just be a potshot at an insecurity?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:15 AM
3

What about a “loose pussy” could possibly be about behaviour?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:06 AM
1

Well I have a hard time believing that but I’m not dismiss you. I’ll give you benefit of the doubt here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:04 AM
10

C’mon, you must know that that difference doesn’t matter to a guy, right? It’s be like saying a woman has loose pussy energy, energy is doing nothing to make that any better.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 06:48 AM
2

In this singular instance, I love that comparison lol.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/25 06:47 AM
3

My preferred woman insult is “I ain’t gonna fuck you bro” It short circuits them like you wouldn’t believe, it’s so fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 06:37 AM
2

I wanna trade places, holy fuck I wish I got that grace.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 06:23 AM
7

Oh, I hate that as well but what’s ironic is that many of the men asserting the “penis size matters to women” people use the same tactic. One woman admits to caring about size, therefore all women do?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:51 AM
5

What would be a more reasonable sample size when making an objective statement about the opinions of literally every woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:47 AM
10

Peer reviewed data with a stratified survey done based on penis size that tests each size against each other against a sample size of roughly 100,000 from men all around the world localised to women from each of the places that proves a minimum size required for the average woman to be satisfied. That’d do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:43 AM
5

Most men literally never have to care, the ones that do probably need therapy more than they need a woman telling them that their dick is too small tf are they supposed to do when they get that information? Meat max? Lock in? It’s genuinely better to just go through life without an extra insecurity that isn’t gonna affect most men and doesn’t even benefit the ones that do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:15 AM
12

This take isn’t unpopular it’s just how far I take it that makes this a unpopular opinion. If all OLD apps were banned dating would improve massively. A lot of the issues everyone has with dating being largely due to an over reliance on OLD and the culture of convenience over commitment that comes from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:38 AM
1

The only time I’ll dismiss a woman when I asked for their opinion is when it’s not an opinion and they’re trying to assert something as fact that just isn’t true. Like for example, if I ask a woman what her opinion on my wardrobe and she says something like “Women hate men that wear jewellery” I’d just say that’s not true and move on Other than that, obviously if I’m trying to get their perspective I should try to understand it even if I don’t necessarily disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:23 AM
2

Because they’re chronically online and don’t know that a lot of women find really defined muscles actually pretty gross sometimes compared ti a more natural look that’s still built.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:16 PM
5

I don’t think so tbh, most I can say is we can ask for some reciprocity on the other end.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/25 08:30 PM
2

True.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/25 08:04 PM
5

Actually true, I’m the same. You’re right. I’ll try to make some posters and see if that helps.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/25 03:56 PM
5

True, but the issue is a lot of these guys will defend against the mere thought of not centering women in every discussion and focusing on men at all. I don’t say this as an excuse not to do it, just that it’ll be hard.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/25 03:37 PM
7

Same yeah, in my Sociology class I make sure to measure all my words so I don’t get called out as some kind of “redpiller” for saying something like “circumcision should be treated as reprehensible as it for any gender”. It’s rough.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/25 03:29 PM
8

True, but the word “male advocate is akin to the n-word to a lot these people”. But you’re right.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/25 03:24 PM
2

Yeah I agree, it’s the equivalent of “if they have no bread why not eat cake?”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:18 PM
2

That’s fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:51 AM
7

Isn’t there also a thing where younger lesbians are used for when straight women are “experimenting”and then ditched for a boyfriend? If that’s true I can see some reasons for the insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:42 AM
11

Glad to see Prim Realer in those recommendations.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/25 10:12 AM
2

Very true actually, I can relate to a lot of this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/25 10:10 AM
49

Yep, pretty much same. I’ll put myself out about as much as you are willing to, but there’s no way I’m gonna put myself at risk for you to throw it in my face with 0 gratitude.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/25 10:01 AM
7

Why? Same reason? Distrust?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:32 AM
26

From other bi women who don’t date bi men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:54 AM
1

Need summa dat.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:05 AM
1

How healthy of you, sure u belong here?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:04 AM
1

So true king.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:59 PM
2

I do think you need a base level of social ability tho, that’s non negotiable I’m afraid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:58 PM
2

It’s crazy, it’s like they live in a different world, which they do, wish that was me ngl.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:56 PM
1

I’m insane, I throw rocks, we all deserve to get some sense knocked into us.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:54 PM
3

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/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:53 PM
5

For as long women (and men, for some fucking reason men too) like you continue to pretend that women’s issues are the only ones that matter and the men’s issues are negligible we will never achieve the goals of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:51 PM
3

So every revolution in history had no negatives? Genuine question.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:46 PM
4

The double standard revealed in literally one response is insane lmaaooooooooooooooo
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:45 PM
6

Nah, something fail to realise how much the internet affects the real world. These strong opinions form their worldview and people will always bring stuff from the internet into their interactions that will reinforce these opinions. When these people touch grass they’re not enlightened, they just burn the grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:43 PM
1

We do, we’re on reddit. We basically only do edge cases and complete delusions/psyops here. The thing is, it doesn’t matter the reality if you can’t convince someone of it, that’s what this sub is for.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:40 PM
0

Ok, I see your point now, yeah you’re right.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:32 PM
1

Fair, I honestly don’t care and think it’s a good dating strategy, I just wish it wasn’t the only vetting strategy and that women actually appreciated those efforts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:23 PM
-1

I think the issue is that the guy promises commitment and then leaves after using her like a fleshlight. Still good advice tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:20 PM
0

Why does the worst of is make us a shit gender? Is there not more to us than that? That feels like a very sad thing to feel against your own gender, do you also feel that way about yourself as you’re also a man? Idk, this feels like you hate your gender, I hope that’s not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 10:44 AM
2

I can imagine how that feels yeah, that must suck.
/r/EverydayMisandry27/04/25 02:59 PM
5

Yeah, that makes sense. You hate how you look so you project that hate onto everyone else that looks like you. Reminds me of incels a lil bit tbh.
/r/EverydayMisandry27/04/25 02:51 PM
8

It’s such a hilarious statement I can’t help myself but laugh everytime I hear it because it answers the exact question they’re asking just by saying it. A man’s problems will never be given a fuck about and only mocked so we should just shut up and die in silence.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/25 10:18 PM
9

That’s actually a really good point.
/r/EverydayMisandry26/04/25 03:50 PM
17

It’s always weird when I see someone who assumedly has experienced what is like to be a man in society so fervently reject the experiences, feelings and perspectives of the majority of men. Do they genuinely have a life so different that they honestly can’t even put themselves in their shoes when they’ve already worn them? Are they that out of touch? I don’t get it.
/r/EverydayMisandry26/04/25 03:44 PM
1

True, but that doesn’t change what I said. Women are generally averse to initiated conversation, it’s not just about wanting a date right off the bat.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 08:47 AM
6

Oh women who hate men just ignore them? Because in my experience they always make it a point to express their hatred for men in every situation possible while making sure that men know it’s their fault. Also for women not hurting men when they hate them… That’s just not true.
/r/EverydayMisandry26/04/25 08:40 AM
1

This is very true, it’s this mindset that leads to most success and best overall outcomes. But convincing desperate men that grabbing onto what to them feels like their only opportunity every time they do it is quite difficult. It’s the unfortunate scenario of the men that know this already do it, while the men that need to know this won’t accept it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 08:35 AM
7

The message most men are getting from the internet, their friends, the general population and their own experiences is that women don’t want to interact with them at all. At least not when the woman doesn’t have complete control over the terms of engagement. As long as that’s the message they’re getting that’s all they’re gonna believe, not a lot can change that perception especially since to them that’s reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 08:29 AM
1

I agree with your sentiment but women are just generally not interested in being approached by a guy in general, not just specifically asking them out. I agree that men should kindle familiarity and a sense of security when approaching women (specifically giving them an out if they’re not interested and accepting rejection gracefully when it happens) but they’re generally not given that opportunity or more accurately they’re not seeing where that opportunity even exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 08:28 AM
2

Yeah the Marxist-Leninist worldview has reduced every issue into a black and white, bad guy vs good guy dichotemy and it’s really fucking annoying. Men and women issues are pretty nuanced complicated things, I hare when it just gets boiled down to oppressor/oppressed talking points.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/25 08:59 PM
33

If everywhere you go and every person you talk to puts you as the eternal victimiser and treat you worse than actual apex predator (I fucking despise the stupid man vs bear bs) you’re going to be isolated and feel as if everyone is against you, especially as a young man. Now take that young man, expose him to the only people who actually talks a bout men as a good thing, as powerful, in control and just at a basic level good. You’re going to follow that person even if they’re exploiting you beca…
/r/EverydayMisandry25/04/25 02:46 AM
18

It’s crazy how an openly misandrist subreddit literally called “femcel” isn’t banned but every “incel” subreddit is culled.
/r/EverydayMisandry25/04/25 01:16 AM
1

Pathetic bait
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 11:13 PM
1

Yeah, I generally agree, they won’t necessarily pursue men that they personally find attractive. Generally these men have to be publicly accepted to be attractive, rich, etc. As in they’re known for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:15 PM
1

Reading that link’s comments was the closest thing ever to black-pilling me, like damn, some of y’all really really think the work men do is pathetic and humiliating but still expect men to do it and not complain, I’m grateful that these women only make up an extremity of women that spend most of their time online.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 03:45 AM
6

Attractive Men, Rich Men, Charismatic Men and Funny Men are all approached by women. The rules women have are rules to keep the undesirables away, they throw them out for the men they find attractive. Women pursuing the men they actually want has always been the truth of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 03:34 AM
0

It represents the extremity of humanity, not the truth of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 05:58 PM
2

They generalised because those were the responses he generally saw and he did ask that’s why we’re all here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 05:56 PM
6

Oh yeah, I just kinda laughed and scrolled by when I saw it. It is pretty disgusting that women are always generally treated as victims and men as victimisers. The hyperagency/hypoagency contrast is always proven in moments like these and I just wish more people acknowledged it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/12/24 05:23 PM
3

True.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/12/24 03:35 PM
1

I think you have a point but isn’t it important to anyone that they’re useful and productive? I can agree that the restriction and reinforcement that men can only be productive and useful in very specific, limited ways is harmful but I don’t think drawing confidence and support from being useful is inherently harmful.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/12/24 02:37 PM
10

I don’t know how to substantiate this but I do genuinely think that because of the pandemic, male loneliness epidemic and online communities there’s a lot of lonely men that you wouldn’t typically call incels that identify with incel communities for some sense of community. I just feel like there’s a lot of difference with how men who call themselves incels acted before and after a certain point in time (don’t know for sure too young) but I just intuitively feel a difference that I can’t quite p…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/12/24 01:18 AM
7

Yeah, this matches a lot of the things that have been looping in my mind lately. Attractive Men have to deal with a lot of the shit women complain about but no consideration is given to these men and it’s not even acknowledged that they have to deal with this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/12/24 01:08 AM
4

This was hilarious asf, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 11:11 PM
2

Oh that I agree with.
/r/EverydayMisandry13/12/24 06:38 PM
12

To know what intersectionality is and how it works yet completely miss how it applies to men is wild. The cognitive dissonance is crazy.
/r/EverydayMisandry13/12/24 02:57 AM
2

Ahhh, I see.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/12/24 07:40 PM
4

I agree generally I just would say you shouldn’t drop their ID like that cuz it could funnel a lot of unhinged crazies her way.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/12/24 07:18 PM
2

My mother went out at night braless multiple times in a row in a country where gang violence, shoot-outs and rape is not only common but extremely close to home and somehow came homes safe every-time. It’s almost as if a lot of this assumed lesser safety women have or greater safety men have is completely fabricated and socialised. Plus, obviously my mother shouldn’t have done that, no one should, going out at night is dangerous for everyone.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/12/24 07:11 PM
1

Banger, thank you.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/12/24 12:16 PM
3

You forgot the only reason “fixing masculinity” matters is because the outcome is “violence and anger” as if those are the only two outcomes for disaffected men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/12/24 11:28 PM
1

Ahhh, so that’s what I’ve been struggling with my entire adolescence.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/12/24 11:11 PM
2

Oh lol, I just read fast and I got time on my hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 06:59 AM
2

I fully agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 06:56 AM

Man, I must be truly lost if I forgot Dr K.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 06:01 AM
2

True.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 05:28 AM
1

Yeah, I’ve actively avoided the men vs bear argument because it genuinely enrages me. You’ve hit on something that I’ve been thinking for a while now recently. People these days plan their entire life around the absolute worse thing that could conceivably happen in any situation no matter how unlikely. You can’t live like that, it’s not healthy, We’re able to function normally because we live life based on what’s likely to happen and make precautions to protect ourselves against unforeseen circu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 05:26 AM
6

Based.
/r/EverydayMisandry11/12/24 03:45 AM
3

Who’s out here complaining about ladies night? I’ve never heard that complaint in my life.
/r/EverydayMisandry11/12/24 03:44 AM

So very true, I really appreciated her perspective on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 02:34 AM
1

I generally agree yeah, it’s just a principle thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 02:22 AM
1

I completely agree and it’s refreshing to have someone else that understands but I thought about why and it’s very simple: The more time you spend online, the less you interact with reality. And when most of your time is spent online it becomes your reality. I don’t mean to be superfluous or purposefully mystifying, I genuinely think this is what is happening. I’m curious to hear your perspective though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 02:17 AM
1

I agree that it’s not zero sum, but that’s not the point, the ideal is that you already have have those skills and apply them in OLD, that’s what you’re saying with that they supplement each other. However, If you don’t have these skills beforehand or adapt well, you suffer because you don’t have the skills to navigate either online dating or irl dating. We don’t teach these skills because generally you just learn from experience with navigating relationships irl. But when you put that experienc…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 02:13 AM
1

I think you’re probably right.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 11:49 PM
2

Yeah, a lot of the results you get is probably dependent on how you navigate these apps. Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 11:31 PM

Thank you, I’ve been trying. Glad the work’s paid off.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 11:30 PM
1

You emulate so many of my exact views on OLD, I’m so glad to see someone else who relates. I hate the OLD culture so much and how much it has affected the dating landscape and transformed it and how people approach dating. I feel like an old man at 21 for ranting about how things have changed but I really do sincerely wish irl dating was promoted and encouraged more. Thanks for sharing your perspective I wish u and your husband the best. Oh damn, I didn’t even recognise u at first, hello again.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 11:28 PM
1

I understand your perspective and it’s a fair one but I think the things that make it streamlined and effective is removing the friction that trained certain skills necessary when forming an irl connection with someone. Now which is better is obviously subjective, I’m just explaining my own personal reasons why I hate it. The general reasons why I think I people hate it is cuz the culture is toxic and transactional. I agree with you that it being unnatural is a bad argument because unnatural isn…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 11:01 PM

Yuh, why?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 10:32 PM

The straight white men bullshit is so annoying and genuinely harmful. White guys did nothing to deserve this other than being born and people are honestly going to pretend that the hate they receive isn’t prejudiced is fucking ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 09:47 PM
0

Congrats! Genuinely happy for you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 09:32 PM
1

Yeah, this fits my general view of online dating. I think OLD works for people who can adapt their learned/ intuitive irl social skills in an online context but if you don’t have those skills beforehand, you’re screwed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 08:00 PM
1

True.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 07:50 PM

Most things about this swing in both directions, it’s just not talked about how it affects men because men are painted as the victimisers and women the victims. This dynamic needs to change for any real positive change to be made.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 07:45 PM

I can’t take the bad faith engagement anymore. You refuse to listen to anything other than your own perspective of what we’re saying. Someone else please explain what I can’t. I’m done.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 07:24 PM
1

I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 06:30 PM

I’ve reread the post three times, I haven’t seen “it is only natural for men to support Andrew Tate and despise women” anywhere. Please take a screenshot and show me, I genuinely can’t find it. I and OP have never said nor implied radicalisation = misogyny I don’t know why you’re making it out that we are, you’re the only one essentialising misogyny as a conclusion to radicalisation here and projecting onto us. But I get your point, the reason why the men of the past chose different expressions …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 06:29 PM
3

Very good way to navigate OLD I must admit, I have to take notes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:59 PM
2

But how many men do you think had fun/ found love compared to the women who have had fun/found love?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:45 PM
1

I fully agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:43 PM

You have completely misunderstood OP’s intentions. They haven’t blamed women once in their entire post and their point is to show why men are being radicalised and why focusing on Andrew Tate and creating new male online influencers is completely missing the core of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:43 PM
1

I agree to some extent that OLD needs to be improved not abolished but the issue with comparing the inherent issues of OLD with other forms of dating is that OLD has almost completely replaced those forms of dating. This isn’t an issue alternate forms of dating had, you always had the freedom to try another dating technique before but now you’re actively taking a gamble because the odds are so much worse at any other form of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:22 PM

You’re completely missing the point. You’re focusing on the people who exploit the radicalisation of men and not the underlying reasons they’re being radicalised. Until we focus on those and begin the work to start fixing them then it doesn’t matter how much you’re worried about young men and them being taken in by Andrew Tate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:18 PM

I think another aspect is that society or more accurately the left generally actively treats men’s issues are non-existent, wholly self-inflicted or not worth addressing. And the exceedingly few left wing male advocates are just thrown into the “manosphere” or “red pill” because they don’t agree with feminism’s prescriptions and descriptions for men. They’re talking about male dating influencers now when they’ve ignored men’s issues FOR YEARS, the few things they thought it worthy to acknowledge…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:14 PM
1

I hope you find your outlet soon, but I have to warn you, using anger as an umbrella emotion doesn’t go away. It’s just sometimes, in special moments, you have someone to express other emotions to.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/12/24 02:31 PM
2

The exact scenarios you used to explain how men can be victims of sexual assault is how I tried to explain it before, even to my friends. But people just don’t want to break the women are wonderful effect. Even though these things HAVE happened and even quite happened to THEM and people they know, they refuse to believe that this is happening to any significant degree. They always think of it as exceptions. They truly just want to hold on to the idea that a regular woman would ever do these thin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/12/24 01:31 PM
2

I’d say the reason they wouldn’t post is because they themselves understand how pathetic it is to complain about a lifestyle/person that you’re actively engaging in/dating. Hell, would you really expect someone to admit that even used to do that? If you want to see proof that the people who engage in this lifestyle are also the ones complaining about it then look into their past where possible. You’ll see deleted posts of their exes You’ll see their friends talking about who they used to date Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 07:10 AM
2

Yeah, I think those men are the ones complaining about those women. Why do you think they aren’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 06:10 AM
2

Honestly yeah, if it wasn’t common then why would there be so many of those women in relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 06:02 AM
1

I do actually
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:47 AM
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What do you mean? One of the biggest thing onlyfans models complain about are men getting way too attached and thinking they actually have a chance at getting a relationship with these women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:46 AM
2

I agree, men and women should be more blunt, honest and brutal in dating. To bad it’ll never happen because that would mean being honest with ourselves and others and we’d sooner kill ourselves than do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:43 AM
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Yeah, people are hypocrites, what can I say? Men need to stop pretending they don’t do the exact shit they complain about women doing. Women need to do the same. Simple as.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:39 AM
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Yeah, I’d say I generally relate to your experiences. I grew up, I learnt that it wasn’t okay to express negative emotions, I’ve learnt to hold them back and channel them into other things. I’ve recently learnt to express them again but ofc I have to hold back the majority of the time because it’ll just scare away the people around me. My mother tolerates it but she does complain about how “overly emotional”, “so angry” and “so sensitive” I and men in general are. My perspective is that it needs…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/12/24 05:20 AM
2

I’d say I lack purpose but that’s more due to depression and other stuff than gender roles.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/12/24 04:54 AM
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You’re fine. Let it all out.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/24 06:04 PM
11

How enervating.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/24 06:03 PM
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Lemme just save this for next time someone tries to say it’s only men that make fun of male SA.
/r/EverydayMisandry07/12/24 05:46 PM
1

<image> I forgot this
/r/EverydayMisandry07/12/24 11:37 AM
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Society: Pits men against each other Society: If men supposedly have all these societal issues why do they all hate each other? They must be lying
/r/EverydayMisandry07/12/24 10:13 AM
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Left Wing represent policies such as: Social Democracy Social Liberalism Green Politics Welfare Capitalism Social Justice Liberal Internationalism Multiculturalism Economic Interventionism Progressive Taxation Right to unionize. We specify this because we align in left wing values and policies and we advocate for men as our main goal. As for articulation, ironically I think I articulated this badly but a lot of it has to do with research and experience. Any questions feel free to ask
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/24 09:36 AM
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I agree, there’s nothing better than a constructive discussion. Thanks for your time, I wish u the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 06:04 AM
2

I bet lol, my Uncle’s been retired for years and he still raises eyebrows. And I’ll be honest, as a guy, it’s not like we’re all too good at gauging our own emotions or well being and sometimes the jokes might actually be real, but it’s always good to ask and check in to confirm.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 05:40 AM
2

Thank you for this, this is actually is such a good example. Especially with the “excitable” and “joking about suicide” like I fully and completely understand that there obviously has to be boundaries and limits at some point to these things but I feel like I can never express myself at all unless I’m with a guy or a really close female friend that understands me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 05:25 AM
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Yeah, this is pretty disgusting. Apart from that, do you wanna have a one on one chat? Get some things off your chest if you have any or just talk about other stuff? Just wanna check in if anything.
/r/EverydayMisandry06/12/24 03:35 PM
4

Yeah, I agree with every point you made, I just wish I could respond more substantively.
/r/EverydayMisandry06/12/24 12:30 PM
1

Actually pretty damn true, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 12:27 PM
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So fucking true, I don’t think I’ll ever convince them, I just want to put it out there so that the people who aren’t such ideologues can see the flaws in their argument.
/r/EverydayMisandry06/12/24 12:23 PM
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I love how easily these people go for these kinds of digs. “Men are so sensitive” “Men are so fragile” “Such fragile ego” “So emotional” I never want to hear about how men call women sensitive again, I can’t stand the hypocrisy.
/r/EverydayMisandry06/12/24 12:18 PM
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Yeah, I genuinely do hope he finds peace but I personally find it hard to empathise when he brings it up to attack men, that’s all.
/r/EverydayMisandry06/12/24 03:46 AM
2

Indeed, but I also think that a lot of therapists aren’t trained/prepared to deal with men’s issues. Regardless, the more of us in therapy, the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 12:54 AM
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I fully agree, I’d just say we’d also need to do a lot of work in getting men into Therapy and getting therapy to work for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 12:26 AM
1

Nah, especially with all that other shit. The economy’s fucked if I’m supporting another human being, I need help. But as for my work situation I’m in college rn for Pre Law and looking for a part time job, so I ain’t looking for a relationship in the near future.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 11:46 PM
1

Oh I completely agree.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/24 10:45 PM
1

What are u saying?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/24 10:35 PM
4

To be honest, it’s extremely arrogant of me to say what I do think it’s the objectively correct choice. I don’t think any man is truly content when a woman is unable to set boundaries and is a complete pushover.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 05:07 PM
1

Of course, I can’t stand pushovers and people who can’t set boundaries. Especially with my autism and ADHD.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 10:52 AM
1

Yeah, gender is a curse we bear unwillingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 09:32 AM
1

Probably height ADHD too? Cool Yeah, the women hitting on u tracks Thanks for ur time, I’ll check out that selfie.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 09:05 AM
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Assertiveness, Wherewithall, ambition, generosity, magnamity, empathy, leniency and fuck it, I like my women possesive but also hella flirty. Spite me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 07:38 AM
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Don’t apologise, I’m glad. I will say though, there’s probably a correlation with my experience and race as I’m also black. Just considered that actually. But yeah, wish u the best, thanks for sharing your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 07:07 AM
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Yeah, I also think about that as someone incredible insecure and afraid of making people uncomfortable. I don’t want to overcorrect into unempathetic asshole but I wish I was as comfortable with strangers as my friends even though that’s clearly a different situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 03:11 AM
2

Very true.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 02:31 AM
1

Nah, the reality is I need more effeminate pro social behaviours, my masculinity’s been more of a shackle than something I need to improve on. The few traditionally female hobbies I have has given me more access to positive female attention than any masculine behavior ever has.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 02:22 AM
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What’s funny is I was actually short for most of my life and I just had a big late bloomer growth spurt. So I got screwed on both ends lmao. But you’re right, I should focus on the parts of me that are positive rather than negative. It’s hard tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 02:19 AM
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Sigh… I hope it gets better, for both our sakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 02:14 AM
2

I wish you the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 02:10 AM
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They’ve left out anyone who isn’t fat to be blunt. Skinny people People with deformities Athletic women Diminutive Men Etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 02:09 AM
1

It’s hard tho. Good advice, I appreciate it. But I need to find people that would accept me first, because that’s essentially exiling myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 02:05 AM
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Yeah, it’s really shitty what happened because it was such a great way for people to learn to accept different body types.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 02:02 AM
1

True. So let’s work on fixing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 12:22 AM
2

Yeah It eventually comes up I haven’t touched a girl who isn’t my friend’s hand, you’re cooked bro If they actually defend men at all in conversation Almost none and men are completely unaware. I’d wager the average woman is more aware than the average man
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/24 12:21 AM
3

Hyperagency vs Hypoagency
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/24 12:13 AM
1

I already know these things, you disregarding something intuitively known is foolish because you know that we use those words differently. You wouldn’t call the actions or behaviour that you find attractive beautiful because you know that you’re not just looking for physical markers of health at that point, you’re looking at other factors that attract you to a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 11:10 AM
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What do u think I’m trying to say here? That women are less superficial? No. I used an opinion piece because attraction and beauty aren’t hard scientific sciences, they’re words with normative meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 10:50 AM
1

No, it’s not
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 10:44 AM
1

I think it’s as simple as: Men value beauty over attraction Women value attraction over beauty If you know the differences between these two words, you grasp a lot of what women want intuitively.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 09:58 AM
1

How about you ask what women find attractive about men?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 06:46 AM
1

The… social… one? I’m not trying to make men and woman have the same amount of sex, dating and sexism, that’s idiotic. I’m trying to have it so we treat each other as allies rather than enemies. We’re in this together (that was cringe) but we do better together than apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 06:33 AM
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That’s a completely irrelevant issue and doesn’t contradict anything she said. It sucks that we don’t get dates but respectfully that’s not her issue and if you want sympathy you should be willing to share it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 06:20 AM
1

Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 06:17 AM
1

Elaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 04:36 AM
1

Any woman wanna take this on?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 03:31 AM
1

How is that relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 02:25 AM
1

Why would you pursue something you’re uninterested in?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 01:29 AM
3

Exactly
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/24 12:07 AM
2

Frl, it’s insane.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/24 11:50 PM
2

I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 11:49 PM
3

The democrats are our best bet but they’re so lost in trying to be the impartial party.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/24 11:45 PM
1

Ohhhhhh lmaooooooo, based Do you know what pink pilled means?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 11:44 PM
2

Exactly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/24 11:12 PM
1

Huh, you’re pink pilled? That’s intriguing
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 11:10 PM
1

Very true.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 11:10 PM
0

It is, but that’s a perspective u can only have after experiencing a relationship. It’d be like men never in a relationship saying that it’s worse than being in a bad one. They genuinely feel that but ofc you can’t relate cuz you haven’t experienced what it is to not be able to enter a relationship. There are women who have experienced this and they’ll tell you.0
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 10:56 PM
1

Take precautions rather than prejudices. Prepare yourself against danger to protect yourself. Don’t paint groups of people with one brush to suit your biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 10:12 PM
0

Proof?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 08:35 PM
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You can outright disregard those out of hand, they are inherently bad faith arguments. Reverse the genders and then ask them if the situation is the same or should be treated differently and why.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/24 08:35 PM
1

Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 08:06 PM
2

I agree actually, I just think the culture is pretty toxic and it’s hard to change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 08:03 PM
4

What a privileged perspective lmao
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/24 07:56 PM
1

True, we need to foster places where women are comfortable, encouraged and protected so they can freely socialise with men where men can practice courting women in a safe and healthy way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 07:42 PM
1

Exactly.0
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 07:37 PM
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I would generally agree which I why I highly value my mother for setting a realistic perspective of the world early. I would guess there reason is an involuntary prioritisation of the “man of the house” instilled generationally and societally. There’s also that women are easier to teach to be obedient than men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 06:58 PM
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Marital rape wasn’t a crime but a woman could still charge her husband with assault, women couldn’t own property because that was a privilege given to people who participated in the draft as recompense. Women can be oppressed and it can still be acknowledge that the majority of men and women’s lives were about the same for most of history. The Patriarchy for all of its flaws afforded women some undeniable advantages that men were not privy to. That’s a big reason why Toxic Masculinity is an issu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 06:43 PM
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1.There’s no way that had nothing to do with misandry, they literally told men to go kill themselves. 2.We literally have children’s day and month if iirc 3.I agree with this. 4.What proof do u have that lonely women don’t do this? Can I say that most women aren’t actually sexually harassed because I haven’t personally seen it happen? No, that’s ridiculous. 5.They have 0 following because they don’t need one, their values are already propagated without them, Nick Fuentes is literally capitalisin…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 06:40 PM
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True, I agree. I don’t know why that is actually, maybe because they’re being raised by traditional parents? But wouldn’t it be the same for men? What if it’s not parenting but external social pressures? Even if a woman is raised conservative, the current climate is progressive and they’ll magnetise towards it because it benefits them. But there’s no such benefits for men so they’re alienated to right wing pundits who red pill them. Fair theory?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 06:29 PM
1

Exactly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/24 06:24 PM
2

They literally rallied when guys tried to make a male support center, they tried to ban men’s day and rejected men’s month, there’s a lot of women l who don’t like men Not to mention the unintentional deletion of men’s spaces where they are shared with women, which I don’t disagree with but there are definitely men that went to those spaces to vent and to be free with themselves without being worried to make women uncomfortable. A. You literally blamed men as a group for sexual assault and remov…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 06:22 PM
2

I agree but the reality is society as whole believes that men should deal with their own problems and when men blames society for their problems society tells men to shut the fuck up and blames them for whatever individual men decides to do.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/24 06:17 PM
1

I agree to some extent. Patriarchy is inarguable but I don’t like this revisionist history where we pretend women weren’t valued more than men for all of human history. It might have been objectification but the average man doesn’t even get that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 06:10 PM
2

Maybe, but women will just hate men more.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 06:04 PM
4

That’s traditionally, in this progressive age most women are raised to be independent and self-sufficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 06:04 PM
1

Your reasons might be different, but the result is the same. Women blame men as a group for the problems they experience from individual men and also men themselves for their own problems. Women aren’t taking away rights from men but women do take away support groups and male communities from men in their crusade for egalitarianism. And I don’t disagree with egalitarianism, I disagree with the method. You argue lonely women are just “annoying”? Men know that there are bitter, lonely women that w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 06:03 PM
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I wouldn’t say that actually, women traditionally ate the prize but before men could get that prize with a job, now women can get jobs and therefore: most men don’t bring much to the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 05:49 PM
3

Lmao, let’s see how that goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 05:48 PM
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I agree, men often don’t bring much to the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 05:43 PM
3

I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 05:36 PM
6

I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 05:36 PM
2

Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 05:29 PM
2

Yeah, we need dating classes. At the very least it will foster a 3rd place for men and women to socialise.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 05:20 PM
1

Insanely good take.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 05:15 PM
1

I also think we need to manage our expectations of our partner and how to get there and stop being afraid of “losing” in the dating market. You’re going to get rejected, learn to brush yourself and get up again if you seriously want anything meaningful.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 05:10 PM
2

Not you specifically but you share the general lack of accountability, illusions of grandeur and the entitlement that the world owes you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 04:57 PM
1

Frl, no disagreements here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 04:34 PM
0

True.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 04:29 PM
2

I think rather than progressive ideologies being bad, they’re pushed in idiotic ways. No one wants something forced upon them, no matter how much u preach the virtues of it. You have to incentivise support.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 04:13 PM
1

??? You can help both… What are you talking about? We have rehabs, we have therapists, we have medication, we have solutions. I don’t agree with your perspective. I think the first step to solving our issues is to acknowledge the problems we each share.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 03:56 PM
1

I fully agree. I’d just say as a man it’s possible to not see women as an invader but it’s nigh impossible for us to not see a woman in these traditionally male spaces as “normal”. We’re definitely moving in that direction but as a guy, seeing a woman take interest in your hobbies is one of the best things you could ever experience and even if you’re not intending to pursue her sexually or romantically, just have female attention at all is what pushes men to focus on women in games. Now we defin…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 03:49 PM
0

I see women as equally retarded, yes. The average woman my age to be clear, young people are notoriously stupid with dating, that’s my point. Pretending that’s not objectively true doesn’t help us at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 03:38 PM
2

Exactly, it’s an oversimplification of reality and gives people illusions of grandeur. There’s much needed social skills that we had to develop in irl dating that’s degenerated because of social media We need to bring them back.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 03:38 PM
2

How is that actionable? And how does that benefit the system as a whole?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 03:36 PM
4

We’ll just isolate the loners sadly. I’d say outlaw dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 03:35 PM
0

Don’t you think we should be realistic about our approach to how we do this? People have been telling men to stop being desperate for years now, it doesn’t work because you’re telling men to stop pursuing what they want most in this world and to give up. And they know that women generally won’t pursue if they don’t so you’re basically telling them to give up on dating altogether. That’s why I said that. A better solution imo is to encourage women to pursue men more so that they have more agency …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 03:32 PM
1

Please explain how.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 03:27 PM
1

I agree, and that’s a major issue we have to work on, but maybe a way we can bridge the gap is we promote helping each other than hitting back with our own issues? Don’t get me wrong, I know and understand that men are essentially socially exiled but I feel like it’s more constructive to take it on the chin again just this once so we can all reap greater profit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 03:01 PM
8

Really? We’re invited?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 02:58 PM
1

I agree, so do you think it’s better to focus on these discrete issues that only affect one side or we should work together to solve the shared issues we have as people and help each other out with the problems each uniquely share?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 02:52 PM
4

I agree to all of these things, but I want to ask you, are there issues women deal with that men don’t have to?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 02:47 PM
1

Ok, why?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 02:39 PM
1

Does the average man have more or less issues than the average woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 02:33 PM
8

This is objectively true but telling men to not be desperate, sell out fucks when it comes to relationships is like telling an addict to stop taking Fent. I love my fellow man but that average guy has zero self respect or principles.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 02:15 PM
0

Bet.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 02:10 PM
1

True, well needed reminder.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/24 01:29 PM
3

‘Preciate the advice, if we can get this in motion I’m very much down.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/24 09:30 AM
4

That’s heartwarming, the progressives finally discussing us, not your life in danger. If we could get some irl meetings or like a few of us nearby meet up and do some more in person advocacy, I feel like we could get somewhere. But I don’t know how realistic that is to plan and follow through. Maybe we need some megathreads or sumn.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/24 08:56 AM
3

Verily true.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/24 06:08 AM
6

Yeah, I fully understand that sentiment. Men as a whole have been truly and sincerely fucked by everyone involved.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/24 06:06 AM
10

Exactly, but we also need a practical way to get into electorate politics.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/24 03:27 AM
10

The best decision I ever made was to never measure my dick when I was a kid, I’ve avoided a lot of the insecurity but… Sigh.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/24 03:06 AM
3

https://www.reddit.com/r/everydaymisandry/s/6HTe2RASMk
/r/EverydayMisandry02/12/24 01:47 AM
1

Oh, well I didn’t need to worry about my last post lol
/r/EverydayMisandry02/12/24 01:35 AM
5

What about: “Making you pay for every recreational expense?” Or is this under one of the ones already mentioned?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/24 01:26 AM
11

THAT’S WHAT THE FUCK I’M SAYING!!!! I’ll always be grateful my mom told me “When u go out, keep your head on a swivel, don’t go into dark paths or narrow alleys, don’t trust strangers no matter who they are or how they look and always walk in public spaces with your friends, check in repeatedly so people know where u are. She never gave me some bullshit about how I’m a guy so I can walk in the dark alone because she knew I’d get killed no matter what’s between my legs.
/r/EverydayMisandry01/12/24 10:58 PM
3

Sorry about that lol, I forgot which chat I was in. Gotcha
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/24 09:37 PM
8

When u say emotional support, what do u mean?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/24 09:10 PM
137

Never thought I could respect this dude less.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/24 05:57 PM
10

Funny, I’d say the complete opposite for that last one.
/r/EverydayMisandry01/12/24 05:07 PM
2

Yeah, it’s fucked up that feminists treat men like the biggest enemies of women and for men… Men might genuinely be our biggest enemies lol.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/24 01:48 PM
0

Sigh… Bro actually had a point too, too bad they couldn’t stand criticism and had to sperg out.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/24 10:58 AM
3

You have a point, the fact that men have 0 solidarity but will sell out each other for a crumb of female attention is definitely harrowing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/24 10:57 AM
31

Yeah, autistic men are often forced to “take responsibility” for a lot of shit that wasn’t their intention or fault merely cause they’re vulnerable, lonely and easily manipulated. It’s horrible what happened to that kid, and I hate that no one came in for him in his time of need. He deserved better, he deserved justice.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/24 08:19 AM
10

It’s almost as if their problems are imaginary and an aesthetic to play victim.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/24 05:26 AM
7

Yeah man, I relate to everything you’re saying. You came to the right place. You can dm if u wanna talk.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/11/24 11:49 PM
19

Yeah… I saw this coming from a mile away. The blatant Koreaphobia is insane, I’m surprised I’m just seeing this now.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/11/24 11:28 PM
1

“Think” is very funny, but I understand what you’re saying.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/11/24 04:40 PM
2

The fact that this is noticeably better than other feminist subreddits says something.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/11/24 04:31 PM
2

Men aren’t entitled to get sexual attention from women. Men: ok, same to you Women: 😡
/r/EverydayMisandry30/11/24 04:30 PM
1

Yeah, that specifically is me in so many situations, so I genuinely don’t blame them because I relate so much. When comes to someone asking for advice, I can generally give them a path to getting whatever they need or maybe even personally help them or give them resources whatever. But other than just being there to listen when someone’s venting or like you said relating to their problems I genuinely don’t know how to comfort someone. It’s weird.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/24 05:15 PM
1

Yeah, I can relate to that. I don’t want to take out my issues onto others and so I generally just isolate myself in my worst moments instead of talking about them with other people. But it also just seems like when I do try to talk to others, they have no idea how to help either. They can only give some platitude about pushing through it without any specifications as to how or something about things getting better and while I appreciate them trying it just never seems worth it to try and ask ot…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/24 04:44 PM
1

Nah, I was thinking that exact same thing when they were making their demographics argument.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/24 02:51 PM
9

Yeah, they definitely seem more preoccupied with justifying that men abusing women is worse than women abusing men than pointing out female violence and why it happens. But at least they admit to it, which more than I can say for the average conversation I have about female violence. Thanks for the insight btw, some of the stuff you mentioned I hadn’t considered from that perspective or even noticed. Really helped a lot.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/24 01:26 AM
6

Thank you, I really appreciate the detailed response. Btw, could you name those good things you wanted to give credit for? I have some myself and I think it would be a good way to make a good faith response to what they said.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/24 12:43 AM
7

Thank you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/24 12:19 AM
10

I agree.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/24 12:08 AM
8

Very true.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/24 11:46 PM
3

Thank you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/24 11:41 PM
6

True, I just mainly want to know how I’d counter this “gender conscious lens” argument in the future. I intuitively understand that it just only serves to divide men and women rather than solve any issues or help any victims, but I don’t know how to actually argue that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/24 11:25 PM
17

Basically, their point is that it’s necessary that rather than be gender neutral in looking at the perpetrators and victims of violent crimes, that we specifically focus on the genders of the perpetrators. Before this I was talking to someone else who when I pointed out that men are more at risk of violent crimes than women they pointed out that “most male victims are victims of other men” and when I asked how it was relevant they brought up this gender conscious lens argument.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/24 11:23 PM
38

Yeah, I want to point that out but I don’t know how to formulate it. When they make it a point to say that “relatively harmless female violence doesn’t take priority for me” it contradicts their previous statement of “deconstructed things effectively … without being sexist”.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/24 11:04 PM
41

I’d have more sympathy/empathy for her if she didn’t use her insecurities as an excuse to wish death upon my gender. It’s probably feels really shitty. Oh yeah, and the women bashing too, why focus on making enemies when you’re clearly looking for support?
/r/EverydayMisandry22/07/24 10:25 PM
8

My response to Comment #29 would be: “Why would your anecdotal experience be reasonable to accuse anyone else of overreaction? You yourself point out that autistic men are suspected more than neurotypicals (or men more than women tbh) why would your singular case negate that? It just seems like an exception to the rule.”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/24 08:29 PM
2

That logic is why they get no women in the first place. Desperation is repulsive to women, to men too if you’ve ever felt it from the other side. When you spread yourself thin trying to appeal to every woman, you have no personality at all. When you pursue every woman you have contact with they know you don’t actually like them, you just want anyone at all. Why would they be attracted to that at all? One of the most popular forms of matchmaking used to be your female friends (the one you weren’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 02:51 PM
3

True, but I ain’t the only one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 01:10 AM
2

Just by nature of pregnancy, the risks will never be equal to men, I don’t think it’s realistic to set that as a goal. And that’s why I specified relationships, casual intercourse isn’t that rewarding for anyone imo, not unless you’re a specific kind of person. There’s still work to be done obviously, but at what point would you say it’s worth it? What milestones would you say women are looking for?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:58 PM
0

I’m not talking about feminism, I’m talking about: “not my problem” “why should I feel sorry for someone that hates me?”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:07 PM
5

But most of those risks have been mitigated in modern day, stuff like contraceptives, laws being rewritten and dating apps have contributed to women having more autonomy, safety and control in the dating world. The deal has been sweetened and yet things have generally stayed the same as it relates to men having to put in more effort as it relates to pursuing relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:04 PM
1

Is it not dangerous to like women a lot?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 10:53 PM
5

I also think it would be better if men were more selective than desperately chasing every woman that catches their eye. I wish I could enact change but most are fine with things as they are now and there’s really no one I can control other than myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 10:41 PM
4

I wish you listened to the men who had men’s best interest at heart rather than those quick to project their basest impulses onto every man. Can’t blame you for listening to the loudest voices around, just wish it was different.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 10:37 PM
8

You’re not wrong lol, that shit was depersonalising in a very literal sense, holy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 10:33 PM
1

You realise this goes both ways right? Why would men feel sorry about women who hate them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 10:31 PM
2

Valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 10:08 PM
5

Are they all just physical? Cuz I like a woman who’s more assertive and self-assured.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 09:10 PM

Sex is often the only form of intimacy a man has access to. I agree it shouldn’t be but we’d have to do more as a society to change that and not just blame men and tell them to fix it on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:44 PM
8

Yeah, I agree with the sentiment, I’d just like to put forth that there are certain ideologies that feminism holds (and I’m pretty sure MensLib is a male feminist group) that we cannot co-exist with. And I think that’s gonna be a big obstacle even I would prefer if we could cooperate as it relates to mens issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/24 06:00 PM

Lmao, true. It’s so wild hearing her argue that women over 25, overweight and not feminine aren’t relationship material when she fits all those and still talks about how she wants a husband. Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:56 PM
2

Yeah, I just recently saw. Man, that sucks.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/24 11:46 AM
2

Send me a link? Definitely sounds interesting.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/24 01:33 AM
9

Wait how was he proven guilty, I didn’t hear about this?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/24 01:20 AM
24

The most black-pilling thing I’ve experienced is talking to any woman (other than my mother, lol) about misandry, because they’ll stare at me like I just spoke in alien language. They genuinely do not know misandry exists and how harmful it is, it’s so wild.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/24 01:19 AM
1

Interesting perspective on reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:03 PM
1

Bit of a generalisation of both sides lol, but yeah that happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:00 PM
1

Men didn’t create this narrative alone, women also participate in the reinforcement of these ideas of men and women relationships. When you say reductive things like “simply stop pursuing” you’re ignoring how much of a massive risk and internal struggle to do so. Social pressure isn’t something you can just throw away because it’s not convenient to you because it affects literally every aspect of your life and how you’re perceived and treated. It’d be like me saying to a woman Stop being scared …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:14 PM
1

If you don’t care what men need, why would men care about your needs? Especially when for a man to be emotionally secure, he would need emotional security which apparently you don’t care about?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:48 PM
1

Maybe the issue isn’t that they don’t have any control, but the only source of intimacy that they have is from romantic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:42 PM
1

Yeah true, it is pretty universal, I think I just focus on gender because somethings are really personal when they come from someone who’s the same gender as you. Ya know?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:36 AM
3

Baaaaaased
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:29 AM
2

Oh she definitely is. I despise her, that’s why I was so excited to call her out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 10:53 PM
2

FeministsUncensored lol
/r/EverydayMisandry15/07/24 10:44 PM
11

Just adding on my own experience with this, I’ve been molested multiple times in the past and even now it just doesn’t really register. Even commented about this on another post.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/24 09:24 PM
5

True.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 08:39 PM
1

They heavily criticise the race analogy too, it doesn’t matter what you try they’ll always deny their obvious bigotry.
/r/EverydayMisandry15/07/24 08:36 PM
1

Are they tho…? Not from my vantage point lol, they might think they are tho, idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 08:12 PM
5

Yeah, I relate a lot to that exact feeling. I don’t like AWALT guys and I’d rather not interact with them if I don’t have to. And I despise men who sell out their fellow man for female attention I feel deep shame and disgust.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 08:11 PM
2

I have a question that’s slightly off-topic albeit relevant imo. Do you think a guy who is willing to accept an attitude that is generally hateful of men is equally pathetic?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 07:57 PM
3

Pearl right? It’s, Pearl, you’re talking about Pearl lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 07:54 PM
10

“Lord of the Flies” eh? I’ve never seen a better description.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 07:36 PM
3

LMAOOOO, I just realised how what I said came off, sry. I meant the people who are pathetic seem also to be internally sexist as well. Not you lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 07:23 PM
11

I wish I could have any fond memories of my all boys highschool experience lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 07:19 PM
2

I think I didn’t explain what I was saying well. I don’t think it’s inherently sexist, I’m saying that if it’s indistinguishable doesn’t it still lead to the same outcome? Bringing meds or cooking soup is indeed not sexist, but if you did that even when he wasn’t sick and then the people around you took that as a default to men and women relationships even though your intentions were never sexist wouldn’t that still lead to sexist outcomes? Which I think does happen in egalitarian countries? May…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 07:18 PM
1

Two of the same sex, yeah. And I expect loyalty from my women friends but I expect more shared understanding and connection from my male friends. I haven’t experienced being a woman, my female friends haven’t experienced being a man. It hits different when it comes from someone who shares the same experiences as you. It’s like “they know what it’s like, why would they do this?”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 07:02 PM
2

I’d say they’re many spineless, desperate men tho, and they’re pretty pathetic imo. Not tryna debate you btw, just share my observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 06:49 PM
1

Because I personally think there’s a difference between a pathetic person and a pathetic man and the difference is generally when men backstab other men. I don’t expect women to have any allegiance to men based on gender but when a guy betrays a male friend for female attention I have very specific disgust for that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 06:43 PM
6

It seems a lot of what makes someone “pathetic” is internalised sexism. Interesting… Thanks btw, the response is much appreciated.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 06:16 PM
2

I agree, but if the only way to identify that is them revealing it, couldn’t it be argued that these actions encourage benevolent sexism even unintentionally? To bring more credence to this, isn’t the red pill idea that women do like sexism come downstream from this? You could argue that they’re wrong and that men do these things for different reasons that aren’t sexist but if that’s what people see are they going to care about the reasons? Are the reasons even going to matter when the reality i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 05:54 PM
2

It really is, you should definitely focus more on your irl situation since that clearly seems more positive and healthy. The issue is, my experience is the same offline and online because my generation is the chronically online one. My female friends are ideologically captured by the idea that most men are sexist pieces of shit that would rape on the slightest inclination. My male friends are way more reasonable but some are radicalised by the other side and have a pretty negative view of women …
/r/EverydayMisandry15/07/24 05:46 PM
2

I’ve grown up in this gender war and I can even tell you where it came from. The popularisation of “The Patriarchy” and the fear mongering of men online and on social media especially. Women are raised to be scared of men and what they can do and men are raised to be scared of what they can do. Tbf, that always happened but there wasn’t the internet where every instance of extremist violence is easily accessible and highly promoted to paint them as common and regular. As if all men are like that…
/r/EverydayMisandry15/07/24 05:24 PM
1

LMAOOOOO, “maybe the violence of men is innate? Hormonal?” We’ve reached it, men were simply born to be abusers. We solved it folks, might as well throw us all out.
/r/EverydayMisandry15/07/24 05:18 PM
2

Or they mention that women attempt suicide three times more which is entirely irrelevant.
/r/EverydayMisandry15/07/24 05:16 PM
1

And you think you’re gonna get more by disregarding women’s problems? Lmao. Yeah, I agree that on the Mazlow’s hierarchy of needs Men have lower order problems and women have higher order problems. But less significant doesn’t mean insignificant, they still obviously matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 05:00 PM
1

Niiiiiiiice
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:19 PM
1

Does Benevolent Sexism inherently have to come from a bad place to be considered Benevolent Sexism? Don’t most consider chivalry as a way to show love and care? Why would it being a love language (acts of service) make it not Benevolent Sexism if arguably it reinforces sexist values because people see it as a good thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:06 PM
1

“You have no bread? Just eat cake” lmao You don’t care that the food’s bad because your argument is you have no food at all so you really don’t have any sympathy. My issue isn’t the lack of sympathy, you don’t have to care about another person’s problems when you have your own but: A. That goes both ways, why should women give a singular fuck about men’s problems when they have their own? no matter how insignificant you think they are. B. You don’t need to make out that the other side’s problems…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 12:14 PM
1

Is this a jab at red pill guys blaming women for picking abusive partners? 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 12:03 PM
1

Fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:00 AM
2

Wish I saw the studies on that but taking this in good faith, 80% wanna split the bill? That’s great! So do you think these men are lying? Or what do you think is happening?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:28 AM
1

How do you know that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:16 AM
1

While I get your point, I just want to make clear: What you’re describing seems to be very clearly Hostile Sexism. While the Benevolent Sexism would be the women who enable this such as the Mother, Sisters, etc. that lead to these men being inept in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:15 AM
0

Have you ever considered that your experiences might not be the experiences of these other men that are complaining and that they have fair reasons to have gripes with this because that’s been their experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:05 AM
3

Couldn’t an argument be made that even if a man isn’t being intentionally BS because his actions are indistinguishable from BS without a discussion of intention that they reinforce BS anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:00 AM
0

But is it not at the end of the day? It’s not as if Benevolent Sexism comes from an inherently bad place, most would consider Benevolent Sexism/Chivalry as a way to show love. So why would it being a love language preclude it from being Benevolent Sexism or leading to reinforcing sexist values?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 12:38 AM
4

Yeah, I agree.
/r/EverydayMisandry15/07/24 12:31 AM
10

Yeah…
/r/EverydayMisandry15/07/24 12:16 AM
1

Too big as a hard rule is really just an adult and a minor. The reality is that big age gaps are a red flag because they have a higher risk attached to them but they’re not an immediate deal breaker, there are multiple big age gap relationships that have worked out, it really comes down to risk assessment and compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 12:10 AM
2

If you even care, the issue is that men are so desperate that they spread themselves thin try to appeal to the most women possible, which disgusts most women already defeating themselves, but also leading to them being exploited, used and abused. And no matter how much any woman or guy tries to explain that this only hurts them, the ones that will listen are the ones that already know and don’t need to be told. They’ll never stop being desperate because telling them to limit their options is lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 12:06 AM
2

I just can’t stand the bait sometimes lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 11:27 PM
2

We are attracted to them lol, that’s the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 11:26 PM
1

Lmao, couldn’t possibly be that finding a good relationship is hard especially when men have such issues finding a relationship at all? Why the need to present the other side as having no real problems (assumedly) to validate that your own problems are in fact real?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 11:18 PM
2

If only we could find the off switch.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 10:45 PM
3

Doesn’t that mean that men do actually want relationships they’re just blinded by their short term desire for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 10:45 PM
1

Yeah because one thing men are seemingly physically incapable of realising is that they want a good relationship and they’re worn out from not finding any. And that’s fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 10:42 PM
1

Motivation to keep going, keep it coming.
/r/EverydayMisandry14/07/24 10:34 PM
27

Eh, it’s vitriolic but pretty fair ask I think. Just hopefully this extends to single mothers as well.
/r/EverydayMisandry14/07/24 10:31 PM
2

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/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 09:46 PM
5

The internet was a mistake, the pipeline to extremist radicalisation is reinforced by the algorithm and there’s so much information that it’s nigh unverifiable. The fear mongering every woman has access to the moment they get access to the internet is so much worse than even the mainstream media’s sensationalism and political partisanship. It’s such poison to the unity of human beings and between men and women. Holy.
/r/EverydayMisandry14/07/24 06:08 PM
3

Ah fair.
/r/EverydayMisandry14/07/24 01:01 PM
3

Really? I was always dubious that that word meant anything more than condescension when it came from a man instead of a woman.
/r/EverydayMisandry14/07/24 12:54 PM
14

I was molested in high school pretty often without it even registering to me or my best friend. (Who was also molested) Basically everytime I was focused on doing something it was time for this guy or some girls to grope me or lick my ear. I just ignored it cuz I had no idea this was molestation and even today I don’t really feel anything about it or know how to feel because everyone around me disregarded it. I only identified it after highschool when talking with my bestfriend. The most intense…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/07/24 04:13 AM
4

I’m curious how actionable “Respect Women” is.
/r/EverydayMisandry14/07/24 03:49 AM
16

Fr, incel used to mean more than just “guy I don’t like”.
/r/EverydayMisandry14/07/24 03:26 AM
1

Wait… So it does matter what she was wearing? Spoiler: It doesn’t, it never did.
/r/EverydayMisandry14/07/24 01:16 AM
1

Skittles Argument, again and again and again. Remember when Women weren’t cars? Strange that Men are all of a sudden.
/r/EverydayMisandry13/07/24 11:41 PM
-19

Very well put, I agree.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/07/24 04:57 PM
3

I’ve said this before on a previous post but when they say “men are the problem” What are they implying? Because it seems like they’re going down a very dangerous road with that line of thinking. And as for the “men being defensive = abusers” Talk to me when “Women are rapists” is okay to say.
/r/EverydayMisandry13/07/24 01:30 PM
1

I don’t understand how what bad faith loser men do to justify their disgusting behaviour has to do with what I’m saying but I agree? I’m saying that idiots will also day men don’t experience sexual harassment when if anyone ever took the chance to ask men they’d find out that a lot of them have. I don’t know of a singular place of where men don’t experience sexual harassment on the street and I don’t know how you’d know that they don’t. What do you base that statement of (where you live/raise yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:35 PM
1

It wouldn’t reach the news generally and if it did it’d be ignored, disregarded, justified and laughed at as you did just now. It’s not rare, it’s just that no one cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:19 PM
2

Yes, multiple, especially ones that specifically limit female rights. Countries with governments that focus on the general roles of men and women, typically 3rd World Countries are the biggest perpetrators of this. They are required to to be the sole provider for their families, they’re heavily socially coerced into specific labour intensive jobs, education is heavily skewed towards female success while it’s actually incompatible with how men learn, they’re required to be male chaperones and put…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:17 PM
1

? Why the laughter?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:57 PM
1

Then you haven’t been looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:47 PM
1

Best way to put it tbh. Really wish men took a more female approach to suicidal ideation if they had to experience it all but as a guy with depression I know there’s no way I’m threatening suicide without making sure it’s final. I couldn’t put my Mother through that knowing that I’d have to live with myself after. It’d be so selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:36 PM
0

That’s… very funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:32 PM
0

I understand the sentiment, especially when it relates to abortion. But apart from that the humanity and legal rights of men are just as hotly debated tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:31 PM
3

I would caution against the idea that you don’t need to worry about a boy being sexually harassed, especially when that lack of worry is usually what leads to them being sexually harassed and not believed/ ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:28 PM
2

Why do you think that an adult woman would face a scarier world than an adult man?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:23 PM
6

If I had to guess, probably the difficulty in teaching them positive masculine traits when those are well-defined in our current era, while also protecting them from being radicalised by extremist men groups online and in places where the parent can’t always be present.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:19 PM
5

Woman: I see how ideologically poisoned the average woman is by the fear mongering of men online and in the general public and I want to raise her in awareness of her agency and power. She’s not gonna be some eternal victim scared of her own shadow afraid of every man she comes across. I’m gonna teach her boundaries and how to set, enforce and reinforce them. How to be a hood judge of character and intentions. What precautions to take when navigating the world depending on the situation. A stron…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:16 PM
3

What should be done about men? What are they suggesting here?
/r/EverydayMisandry12/07/24 01:22 PM
1

Very fucking true.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/07/24 09:40 AM
11

Very well put.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/07/24 07:20 AM
1

Do you have any links to support this? I would argue that due to the rules created to protect these escorts that men have to follow that men who are used to this process would be more used to the process of asking for consent and continuing the checks and balancing of mutual engagement throughout the interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:06 AM
1

Yeah, I got banned from r/AltFashion for a pretty similar reason even though mine was a comment. Mods of those kind of subs have to deal with creeps on a daily basis so they start to see shadows on the walls where they aren’t there.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/07/24 12:55 AM
0

There’s a really good video I watched about being a more loving person rather than merely trying to increase desirability. I think it’s very relevant here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 10:35 PM
11

That’s so wild to say that when women are the one constantly parroting how “NotAllMen” isn’t a fair criticism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/24 08:35 PM
6

“Women are afraid that men will kill them.” Men are afraid that women will drive them to kill themselves.
/r/EverydayMisandry11/07/24 08:31 PM
6

It’s mind boggling honestly, they’ll constantly insult incels for thinking they deserve a relationship and that women should change for them. And then literally turn around and blame men for them not finding a good relationship that they ”deserve”. They’re entitled to a good man for whatever reason I honestly can’t surmise. These women are ridiculous.
/r/EverydayMisandry11/07/24 07:50 PM
8

We should both be more empathetic to the other side.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/24 02:35 PM
3

Yeah I agree but I’ve realised that women having more in-group bias innately is such a massive buff for them and a massive debuff for us. It’s insane.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/24 02:30 PM
3

It really is, but I understand that this is how men are socialised. It’s fucked up but it is what it is, I just wish they saw that and tried to fight against it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/24 02:27 PM
1

That’s so fucking retarded, being rich is not an intrinsic fucking trait. Being seen as physically attracted is. And the issues aren’t fucking petty, it it includes: them being abused 5 times more and them offing themselves This shit isn’t a fucking dichotomy. We don’t have to abandon ugly men to accept that pretty people have real problems. https://youtu.be/tIiHsw4hly4?si=wWMD626NYDBu1AWJ
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/24 01:18 PM
1

IT’S NOT ME!!! IDGAF ABOUT ME!!!! IT’S ABOUT MEN IT’S ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT MEN I don’t personally relate to the issues of being attractive, but I have friends, I know people that go through this shit, I know that so many more still go through this. Why in a male advocacy group are we specifically choosing to alienate men just because they have an advantage? Don’t men also have an objective advantage over women? Don’t our problems still obviously matter? You ask me to look inside and do inner work, …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/24 01:16 PM
1

Because nothing is ever underreported in society. It’s clear that nothing I do could ever free you from the delusion that attractive people could never possibly experience anything debilitating because of their attractiveness but fuck it, maybe this will help. Genuinely, why are you so resistant to the idea that being attractive couldn’t have extreme downsides?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/24 01:06 PM
1

https://www.bustle.com/articles/64370-being-beautiful-has-its-downsides-according-to-science
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/24 01:02 PM
2

Why is this shit being discussed in a fucking binary? Ugly and Attractive people can both have shit experiences, this isn’t a fucking victim olympics, they both need help. I’m not arguing that attractive people have it worse or that it isn’t an advantage, I’m obviously arguing against the retardation that is: If their problems are so bad why don’t they maim themselves No attractive person kills themselves for being attractive This shit NEEDS to stop, it’s poison. There is no reason we should be …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/24 12:57 PM
-1

https://www.imdb.com/list/ls008788785/ https://www.jezebel.com/why-do-popular-attractive-and-talented-people-commit-1720659140 https://time.com/3456028/the-most-beautiful-suicide-a-violent-death-an-immortal-photo/ https://www.idiva.com/amp/health-wellness/mental-health/k-pop-deaths-that-shocked-the-south-korean-entertainment-industry/18025396 https://m.economictimes.com/magazines/panache/from-moon-bin-to-goo-hara-5-k-pop-idols-who-died-young/articleshow/99646286.cms https://www.idiva.com/health-…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/24 12:40 PM
1

Np.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/24 12:33 PM
3

True, but what did attractive men do deserve this?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/24 12:09 PM
3

There ya go.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/24 12:08 PM
1

What a horrible argument, if you don’t want to be treated like an object you should maim yourself? Well dw, they just off themselves instead, so they don’t have to deal with being pretty or ugly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/24 12:07 PM
-1

That’s just not true I’m sorry. The downsides are not negligible, insanely attractive men kill themselves because of the shit they go through, just like unattractive men this shit is no joke.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/24 12:06 PM
22

Why do women say men aren’t entitled to relationships when they clearly think women are? The hypocrisy is just ridiculous…
/r/EverydayMisandry11/07/24 04:26 AM
1

Of course, I fully agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 04:05 AM
1

I agree but the average guy needs to see that first as much as a leap of faith is necessary. Most people won’t make that leap out of self preservation. And yeah, often men are men’s worst enemy, I should’ve mentioned men’s advocates too though, they need to put the money where their mouth is and actually help men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:43 AM
1

Love the honesty, not even being sarcastic. Did you know that anger is an umbrella emotion for men? That it’s used as a form of expression for other emotions because expression of sadness or weakness is highly disincentivised? The reality is that most women probably share that view of yours. That a mans rage is terrifying. And that’s why men expressing themselves and being vulnerable will probably remain largely impossible as things are now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:56 AM
1

But we obviously need to learn from someone and have a society that doe shighly incentivise just pushing it down.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:51 AM
1

So you clearly see the difference between anger and violence and yet you still correlate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:45 AM
3

I… Holy… Men really can’t express emotions, we’re fucked. He admitted to suicidal ideation and made an exaggeration to show emphasis and is immediately “watchlist material” I’ve heard women say things literally so much worse and get a pass for the simple fact that most people don’t see women as capable or willing to do these things and they see any sign from a man as complete confirmation that a man is capable, willing and motivated to do these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:45 AM
1

Emotional Expression ≠ Emotional Intelligence. We’re arguing fundamentally different things here. There’s a bunch of people/women that are just not equipped to handle some men opening up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:38 AM
1

True, but I’m pretty sure the point is that when you’re forced by everyone to bottle something up and then you’re asked to open that up, you’re not going to have the best control over what comes out. And while there are obviously limits and there shouldn’t be an expectation for your partner to be able to deal with everything, the point is that if men can only “open up” the exact right amount to not scare their s/o them there’s no real purpose to opening up because it provides no benefit to them.…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:32 AM
2

Anger ≠ Violence and the automatic assumption of such is just another reason why men will never open up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:23 AM
2

I appreciate not just pushing the “toxicity” on one side but why not call this what it is? Internalised sexism. It’s just internalised misandry, toxic masculinity just serves to form unnecessary misunderstandings of what the issues are and why.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:19 AM
1

Yeah, but there has to be a potential benefit that makes that risk worth it. As it is now there’s currently none to very little. The point is we can constantly argue about which needs to happen first but both need to exist for any productive change to happen, and so we need help. Help from women, from men, from feminists from society, as much as help as anyone could possibly muster and even more, because that’s just how big of an issue this is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:12 AM
2

Even then, that’s for the extremely few men that happen to give a shit. Hate every time I have to say it but, men are often our own worst enemy. I’d give anything to have the in-group bias women have.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:09 AM
1

Indeed.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/07/24 03:24 PM
2

Very fucking true.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 05:23 PM
2

True, but we can encourage and incentivise them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 05:23 PM
4

True, but there are things you can do to increase success imo
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 05:18 PM
4

Seems a bit luck essentialist but if it works for you, shrugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 05:10 PM
2

Actual nihilism at its finest
/r/EverydayMisandry06/07/24 05:03 PM
3

Yeah, the idea of lookism has been treated as an incel talking point but it’s objectively true for the majority of cases.
/r/EverydayMisandry06/07/24 04:58 PM
3

Yeah, to summarise “Would you agree that men are also at risk of being victimised by men and women? And if so why is it only women allowed to use their fear to attack 50% of the population?”
/r/EverydayMisandry06/07/24 04:53 PM
2

I’m saving this, thx
/r/EverydayMisandry06/07/24 04:49 PM
1

I agree, I just hope there are no long term/permanent effects.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 04:48 PM
2

I disagree, Dating Apps have severely degenerated our ability to adeptly scrutinise and to do so responsibly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 04:23 PM

AWALT? And didn’t I specifically not ascribe women as such? I don’t quite understand what you’re asking, may you please elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 04:09 PM
6

Exactly, bear’s attack when hungry, not just whem threatened. They’re basing their survival off of a random beast’s diet that day. Also, speaking of just the fact that we were more proactive in obtaining information when we had to actually go out and obtain it: I think the multitudinous conveniences we’ve created for our current society hurt us because they don’t facilitate the learning of very important fundamental skills to operate competently within society. Especially socially, we’ve reduced…
/r/EverydayMisandry06/07/24 04:02 PM
1

Do you want to talk one on one? Dms are open if so.
/r/MenSupportMen06/07/24 03:53 PM
1

Clearly not enough, and clearly not advertised enough. We need to do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 03:50 PM
4

r/IncelExit Online support groups *Just because society isn’t obligated to, doesn’t mean that it can’t do anything to help.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 03:49 PM
3

I never once asked that, stop misrepresenting my position.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 03:46 PM
0

Yeah, I completely agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 03:20 PM
5

A. Many incels have already been rehabilitated. B. Society doesn’t need to be obligated to help out. Simple as.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 03:19 PM
1

The safety of the people they’re dating. The ability to identify and prepare against bad actors. Traits of compatibility/incompatibility Judgement of character. Etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 03:12 PM
8

You acknowledge that they’re social stunted and yet not willing to do anything to help. A. This just creates more incels B. If we help incels we can make it so they’re rehabilitated and they won’t be such a societal issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 03:07 PM
2

Contrapoints?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 03:04 PM
7

I fundamentally disagree, there’s nothing wrong with saying that someone should strive to be independent in how they conduct themselves in the adult world but that obviously doesn’t mean that it matches their current material reality and that’s what is happening here. There are so many factors that affect one’s ability to form social bonds and to ascribe such extreme hyperagency to people who’ve very little opportunity is pretty shitty ngl. It’s so obviously a boomer opinion with no understandin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 03:04 PM

How would it better address those details?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:59 PM
1

Yeah, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:58 PM
5

I’ve never respected a person’s singular comment more. Ho-ly based. Yeah, I think you’re completely right.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:57 PM
3

When did I say women were solely responsible lmao? Obviously us as a society need to more in general, taking this as something only women have to do is super weird. And yeah, I’m saying they aren’t completely responsible for their own social lives:
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:55 PM
6

Honestly? Wouldn’t be too bad of an idea lol, it’d get them into more social situations/groups. But seriously, the ideas that incels are wholly responsible for their situation because of the reprehensible actions of some in the community needs to change. We’re actively creating a monster when we do that. Incels need some measure of sympathy, empathy and support.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:34 PM
3

It has, and it’s such a mindfuck that it’s being defended so vehemently. Ig the previous system was actually that bad, obviously women shouldn’t be held economically at ransom to enter a relationship but something needs to change here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:31 PM
2

Scrutiny is a necessary part of the social practice of dating just like every other necessary attribute to social interactions. It’s a flaw not a bonus that there’s so little scrutiny in these apps. They’re not safe and they actively degenerate people’s ability to make judgements of people in order to keep themselves safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:19 PM
3

Yeah, except that is heavily disincentivised by the current OLD landscape. People don’t go out anymore, they stay home and scroll on Tinder, so if you make the leap to cut yourself off from the main dating practice and try an alternative method, especially when you’re not socially adept, you’re almost definitely screwing yourself. I actively want it to return to exactly how you’ve described it but alas, that ship has sailed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:17 PM
5

Thank you, I think this is the most good faith reading of the situation that I’ve seen so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:14 PM
4

This. This current system harms many women as well. As I’ve said, it’s a net negative for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:12 PM
1

Heres ya go.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:11 PM
3

Societal and governmental incentives for active social engagement such as mixers, local gatherings and other socialising events that promote equal opportunity for social development. Support groups for those who are uniquely disaffected by the system. A general culture of sympathy/empathy for those disadvantaged by the system rather than immediately attacking their failings as a personal character flaw. E.g. (virgin and incel) Are any of these unethical?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:10 PM
9

Why not address the post directly instead of making empty attacks as a deflection?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:07 PM
8

It’s insane how you ignore the entire meat of my post and disregard everything I said about why it isn’t working. You pretty much completely ignored the content of what I was saying to make your response. I literally didn’t even mention appearance in my post but that’s most of what you focused on in your response ignoring that socialising is also a trait that can be considered attractive and unattractive and that if it unilaterally bars everyone who has difficulties with that then it probably me…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:06 PM
7

Sigh… I guess. Btw yeah, that sub has been taken over by fake feminists and whiteknights, unironically. Still I think there’s worth posting there.
/r/EverydayMisandry06/07/24 01:52 PM
1

Indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 11:19 AM
3

I guess I’m “Not Like Other Men” 🤣 Gotcha
/r/EverydayMisandry06/07/24 10:39 AM
7

:) Thank you.
/r/EverydayMisandry06/07/24 10:31 AM
5

Definitely depressing lol, all I can do is laugh at the absurdity.
/r/EverydayMisandry06/07/24 10:30 AM
3

Thank you, I appreciate the advice and will definitely put them to use. 🙏🏾
/r/EverydayMisandry06/07/24 10:29 AM
7

Tbh, I think most people are like that. They look for things to support rather than challenge their beliefs. Most people are quite lazy in these things.
/r/EverydayMisandry06/07/24 10:21 AM
7

Because they’re so ideologically bought into the oppression fallacy. They truly believe that women were the only ones oppressed by the “Patriarchy” (Oligarchy) throughout human history and that men are just enforcers of said “Patriarchy” so they think their extreme bad faith valuation of men is proven reality. It’s insane.
/r/EverydayMisandry06/07/24 10:08 AM
2

While I fundamentally disagree with the RP idealogy, please allow me to steelman how you can be RP without being misogynistic. “I believe that there are certain biological realities that affect dating that being aware of can completely change one’s chances of success. Most women due to being pursued rather than having to pursue are not aware of a lot of these realities or the true state/methodology of dating.” What do you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 07:56 AM
2

I’m happy for you two but I think you’re missing the point. The point is that the Blue Pill is a Just World Fallacy. It asserts that all failures in the dating world are self-inflicted and there’s no need for the dating world to change. Am I representing your position well?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 07:49 AM
2

This I agree with, they go for get rich quick schemes, prolly because the ones pushing this are almost always scammers taking advantage of lonely young men. Or young men too impatient to gradually build low-risk wealth so they just essentially gamble.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 07:46 AM
1

Because none of those are generally valued in the dating world? Maybe STEM because making money but that’d just be redundant to “making money” These are great for self-fulfilment/enrichment but meaningless in a dating context.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 07:43 AM
2

I understand the sentiment because pills are stupid but we do need to know which groups are purporting which constellation of beliefs and why. And this pills are a good way to show that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 07:40 AM
8

😅 Ah well, you can only do so much and no more. And while I always knew that some women saw men as predators and women as prey, I never knew they’d be so bare-faced about it to actually compare men to literal predators and say that we’re worse. At the very least, I’m glad they said the quiet part out loud.
/r/EverydayMisandry06/07/24 05:56 AM
11

As you should, dw. I’ve kept my distance physically and emotionally.
/r/EverydayMisandry06/07/24 05:50 AM
15

A friend of mine since highschool. And believe me, the mask already slipped
/r/EverydayMisandry06/07/24 05:19 AM
3

Exactly, I just want to see someone point out how disgustingly hypocritical this is.
/r/EverydayMisandry06/07/24 12:26 AM
4

I agree, I genuinely never wanted to address this issue because it literally has no productive outcome but seeing this I had to post it because the blatant misandry was so fucking disgusting.
/r/EverydayMisandry06/07/24 12:22 AM
5

Would probably be the most cogent thing they said in this entire comment section tbh.
/r/EverydayMisandry05/07/24 08:54 PM
9

Ahhhhhh, well as long as you’re doing well.
/r/EverydayMisandry05/07/24 12:18 PM
19

Hey, shouldn’t you be on your break miss? 😑 But thank you again for your service
/r/EverydayMisandry05/07/24 12:09 PM
14

It got posted to r/nothowguyswork don’t know where it came from.
/r/EverydayMisandry05/07/24 03:00 AM
2

I’m sad about the reasons for you going but you deserve a break, you’ve done a lot for us and this sub, I hope you make the most of your time away and focus on yourself.
/r/EverydayMisandry04/07/24 11:50 PM
3

Yeah, I agree. The being forced to fulfil a heteronormative norm is obviously wrong but so’s the opposite of being forced to deny it even if you knowingly choose to participate in it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/24 09:48 PM
30

People with no moral conviction will never be consistent. They only want to say what paints women as prey and men as predators and it doesn’t matter if that leads to logical contradictions. They’ll just make up another BS point and say it’s men’s fault anyway. Also the Bear vs Man “discourse” is the most thought terminating excuse for a reason to bash men I’ve seen so far. Maybe they’ll reach so far that they’ll finally let the mask slip but it’s not like their loyal servants would be able to te…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/24 02:35 PM
1

I agree, nothing wrong with taking a break.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 02:29 PM
2

Ah, I should.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/24 10:25 AM
3

She really did.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/24 07:09 AM
0

That’s completely fine, I support that, you should probably vet the women as much as you do the men just in case for your own safety but it’s really not a big deal tbh. I just don’t like these highly generalised negative statements of men being made cuz they don’t help anyone and just makes men out to be monsters, simple as.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 06:52 AM
1

I agree with everything you’ve said here. But I’ve seen a lot of women generalise men and say shit like “It’s Always A Man”, “We can’t trust any man”, “We have to treat every man this way” and “It’s enough Men”. When none of that is necessary for the precautions that honestly everyone should be taking.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 06:26 AM
2

Yeah, but I want to be clear here. There are more males committing violent crimes than females. That doesn’t translate to most men committing violent crimes. Therefore, it’s neither reasonable nor understandable why women would feel the need to generalise men as dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 06:16 AM
2

Yeah, but I would say the issue men have with that isn’t that we don’t acknowledge that there are dangerous men. It’s that you’re generalising all men as inherently dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 06:12 AM
3

Indeed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/24 06:09 AM
8

Yeah, I definitely see that now.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/24 06:04 AM
2

Indeed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/24 06:00 AM
2

Because Men are predators and Women are victims.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/24 05:58 AM
3

Niiiice, thx.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/24 05:54 AM
13

Thought that was just because that’s how the movement started and it went from there. A. A lot of what they said happened in history is inaccurate to bolster the men are oppressive, women are oppressed narrative. B. Men suffered just as much from “The Patriarchy” as women did and still do but we get sidelined in the culture war.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/24 05:53 AM
8

I’ve already asked lol, they appeal to ”men did this actually” and that ”male recidivate more than women” so that’s how they justify it lol.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/24 05:29 AM
6

Literally what I’m saying but no, this person treats it like a requirement to be a submissive bitch to feminism while being attacked for being male.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/24 05:25 AM
3

Yuh
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/24 05:11 AM
3

I saw them steelmanning the male position a few times, I never expected this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/24 04:34 AM
1

The idea that clothes attract predators is a proven myth. Predators arguably pursue more modest women because they think they’re more submissive and compliant. She should be able to where what she wants not because men are dangerous and shouldn’t be but because it never increased risk to begin with x
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 12:54 AM
3

A productive discussion I had on this sub
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/24 11:41 PM
3

Actually so correct.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/24 10:50 PM
18

The ideologues of fascists. They said the quiet part out loud.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/24 10:38 PM
31

Same, there’s no fucking way I can call myself a feminist when this is what feminism is represented by.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/24 10:20 PM
11

Lmao, right?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/24 10:19 PM
9

https://www.reddit.com/r/FeminismUncensored/s/Aa0MQ1DES6
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/24 08:29 PM
85

How could you do such a horrible thing as ask not to be generalised?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/24 08:01 PM
24

I didn’t expect this response to just saying men shouldn’t be alienated from feminism
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/24 07:48 PM
14

Sigh… A bunch of traumatised people getting yasslighted into thinking their warped view of the world is corrected.
/r/EverydayMisandry03/07/24 06:46 PM
3

Another thing the eurofucks beat us in
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/24 05:11 PM
3

Yeah, I remember learning that women found it gross (lmao) and wanting to get circumcised, even recently I didn’t understand. But now I get that we’ve just been socialised to accept it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/24 05:10 PM
1

What a sexless man wants is what comes from sex, not the sex itself. The sex itself is merely mechanical. They want intimacy and I believe that commodification takes away from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:11 PM
4

This. Exactly. We need to promote the exploration of the outside again.
/r/EverydayMisandry03/07/24 01:39 PM
8

If only there was a healthy way to get attention… Oh wait there was but you’ve made it so men don’t want to look in your direction.
/r/EverydayMisandry03/07/24 01:37 PM
1

I don’t think it’s good to create more simps and incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:56 AM
1

And this is… good to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:55 AM
1

That just creates the black pill. We need to just be realistic from the start, sometimes it works out sometimes it doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:51 AM
6

I remember when I saw a post from a woman admonishing men for justifying certain kinds of content only because it was immediately punished with extreme violence within that media. (Like showing pedophilia but making it so the pedophile gets the shit kicked out of them) And then I see this lol
/r/EverydayMisandry03/07/24 08:53 AM
3

Very true, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:18 AM
2

Answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:09 AM
5

Wait why? I’m curious lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:51 AM
3

<image> https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/how-often-do-couples-have-sex#:~:text=There%20is%20no%20set%20amount,more%20often%20increases%20relationship%20satisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:40 AM
3

Because if I needed water to live, I wouldn’t calculate that need based on me overindulging in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:24 AM
3

That’s not a good comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:22 AM
1

But those three are. They’re even called primal needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:19 AM
4

I disagree, I think they’re inherently different. The nature of how these relationships are formed is integral to the intimacy imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:15 AM
1

It’s a biological craving. Sleep, Eat, Sex. Those three are fundamental needs
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:01 AM
2

The commodification of it inherently lowers its value as the relationship/bond formed is completely transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:53 AM
2

That sex is a fundamental need in both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:47 AM
6

Well Sex trafficking is on the rise, but also the dominance of the red light district commodifies sex and therefore leads to an inflation of intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:43 AM
1

First step is good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:41 AM
1

Lmao, really? That’s so wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:40 AM
7

That’s arguably a socially constructed concept than a biological reality no?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:39 AM
-1

Yep, I actually think it’s a good system, it should just be given the respect it deserves. Sex Workers should be treated as healthcare workers and given that professional appreciation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:30 AM
9

Exactly, what is this one side bs?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:28 AM
3

Netherlands. (Amsterdam)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:16 AM
29

Men don’t need sex, humans need sex, this male focused idea of sexuality is one of the main divisions among us. Sex as a whole needs to stop being centred around men and be something that both parties actively engage in.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:15 AM
3

Probably, I’d like to at least understand what her point was apart from deflecting.
/r/EverydayMisandry02/07/24 09:11 PM
3

I love it when they bite bullets, makes it so much easier to expose them.
/r/EverydayMisandry02/07/24 07:12 PM
3

^
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/07/24 05:08 PM
4

It is, this is only super insecure, probably mentally ill/ traumatised women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:52 PM
1

Yes, some women are that scared/bothered
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:50 PM
24

Yeah, I hate how they justify their clear vitriol with “men would do worse”. This shit is why men kill themselves, how do you go through life as a man and then have to deal with being seen as worse than a literal predator by nature of your mere existence. Might as well just accommodate them and take yourself out of the equation. Not worth trying anyway. Sry for the rant.
/r/EverydayMisandry02/07/24 03:25 PM
7

Same.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/07/24 03:22 PM
3

Sigh… This is why I never measured my dick when I was younger. This shit just breeds insecurity. Maybe look for women who like smaller penises?
/r/MenSupportMen02/07/24 03:03 PM
2

Here’s what I think. Coloured hair, piercings, tattoos, etc. are counter culture and therefore a good test of assertiveness, especially in women because of how they’re treated. And men like me are extremely attracted to assertive women, so we intuitively go after those features. But why do u like straight lace men?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:52 PM
2

Fr lol, bushy’s way better than just shaved lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:33 PM
1

All of the things u've listed I'm attracted to lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:26 PM
2

And women with body hair doesn't bother me that much
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:25 PM
0

As long as you're attractive, you'd have to wear a full body burka and then stuff it to make it fat and maybe u have a chance
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:25 PM
17

If you're attractive you could wear roadkill and have men swarming
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:24 PM
1

Do u think it's because of opposites attract theory? Or just coincedence?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:23 PM
1

Literally me but white lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:22 PM
3

TRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUE
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:20 PM
1

Halsey 💞But yeah, you're 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:20 PM
1

An oversized hoodie with a backpack under to simulate fat, beard and bad BO
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:18 PM
35

Killer.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/07/24 12:24 PM
14

Board games are unmatched.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/07/24 04:01 AM
6

Facilities, trained professionals, qualified personnel, Relevant Educational Materials.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/07/24 04:00 AM
8

Most of the oppressions cited are exaggerated or missing context. Even in Middle Ages, women participated in reform
/r/EverydayMisandry02/07/24 03:35 AM
3

It would probably require a man who has a specific predisposition towards personality over weight. Me personally, I like some weight so I would date them but it wouldn’t be because of sole personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 09:31 PM
3

You say it’s not biological, what is it then?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/24 08:06 PM
2

Lmao, fair,
/r/MenSupportMen01/07/24 02:09 PM
19

Modern Dating Advice is actually made for children that can’t navigate real social situations. I genuinely think you should ignore them and ask what your parents did and go from there. All my friends got their girlfriends b4 this online dating bs
/r/MenSupportMen01/07/24 01:24 PM
4

Both? What? I just read it again and nothing you said matches what they said.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/24 12:36 PM
23

No, it’s not. They even made sure to point out that it wasn’t. It’s a reality than in our society men push for sex more, that isn’t even inherently negative, that’s just what happens and acknowledging that doesn’t hurt us.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/24 12:30 PM
36

Wh- THE BLATANT SEXISM IS FUCKING INSANE
/r/EverydayMisandry01/07/24 08:26 AM
3

Why do u disagree?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/24 07:25 AM
7

Men see women as access to deep emotional connections. Women see men as a potential romantic partner. That's where your pre-conceptions come from, Men generally don't form deep, intimate bonds with other men, that is completely reserved for romantic relationships and that's why men are desperate for it and women aren't. Because they already have it in their friendships. That's the reality of the situation, like it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 06:59 AM
3

I agree but why did you say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 07:19 PM
4

Lmao, believe me I can relate, this ain’t a gendered issue. He’s younger though… And a man so he can be stupid. It’s impossible for me but I know I should give up and move on, so I’ll say that to you as hypocritical as it is. Maybe ask her to freeze her eggs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 06:53 PM
24

I agree with what you’re saying but allow me to show you why by flipping. A woman invites a man into her house, why do some feel they’re entitled to sex afterwards? Because it’s a socially reinforced convention, they shouldn’t push it but it’s understandable why they have that misunderstanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 06:34 PM
3

Man… Living life as a woman really is fundamentally different and I don’t say that to demean you. Very few men can afford to give up a good thing on the off chance they get someone better.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 06:05 PM
22

I agree generally I just disagree that you deserve better. Sometimes you’re the problem and u need to self-improve. You shouldn’t feel like you’re setting but you also need to be able to be objective and make sacrifices for the relationship sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 06:03 PM
25

The act of “fixing” anyone is an ultimately inadvisable process that destroys you as much as it fixes them. Therapists can tell u that.
/r/EverydayMisandry30/06/24 03:14 PM
2

Exactly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/24 04:51 AM
1

That flair…. lmaooooo
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:00 PM
7

Honestly, they deserve it, holy fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:00 PM
8

Yeah, and they’ll never fucking learn no matter how much we tell them. It’s so fucking enervating. Why try?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:38 PM

Exactly, that’s what I’m trying to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:26 PM

Ok? And why are we arguing this at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:24 PM
1

But we still need a name for The phenomenon rii?
/r/EverydayMisandry29/06/24 03:15 PM
1

What would you call a system based off of these concepts?
/r/EverydayMisandry29/06/24 02:00 PM
3

True.
/r/EverydayMisandry29/06/24 01:49 PM
2

Do you disagree with the conjecture that women have generally lacked autonomy throughout history?
/r/EverydayMisandry29/06/24 01:12 PM
3

What do you think about the theory that historically speaking, men have had hyper agency and women have had hypo agency in society? And what do you think are the causes of this?
/r/EverydayMisandry29/06/24 01:10 PM
3

I’m going to have to review these thoroughly.
/r/EverydayMisandry29/06/24 01:06 PM

From other men, doesn’t invalidate my point in the slightest. Also, your argumentation is inherently flawed, obviously we’re discussing exceptions because the average person doesn’t attack each other violently. That’s something inherently and established. Your point of universality is completely irrelevant because we’re not arguing universal realities, we’re arguing whether or not men experience attacks on the same level as women and that has been proven as such. The physical difference talking …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 12:58 PM

Objectively the physical differences between men and women do not match why men represent the majority of the victims of those attacks. Clearly if physical difference was the determinant then that statistic would be different. But it’s not. Because physical differences is not what decides danger.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 12:27 PM
2

I thought about it a lot since it was such a contentious issue lol. As for your point, I think you’re right in a biological essentialist sense you’re right but men (and women) in power are who created the social rules that we know of today. Stuff like how “marital rape” didn’t used to exist, “women couldn’t vote”, etc. those things come from patriarchal systems. Most leaders in most societies were men and they created rules and we are affected by the downstream influences of that today. Do you n…
/r/EverydayMisandry29/06/24 12:15 PM

Most attackers do have weapons, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 11:39 AM

Bad argument. What decides danger isn’t physical capability but actual outcomes and guess what? A weapon greatly reduces the effectiveness of physical superiority. A gun nullifies it, and numbers are a really good equaliser of power and the people who attack know that and use those tactics.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 11:14 AM
10

Exactly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/06/24 10:15 AM
0

Biological Predispositions disseminated down to social norms and are reinforced into stereotypes and roles. The Patriarchy is how elites influence control culture through power. They control everything that everyone uses and so they influence the direction of culture and do so to benefit themselves and as it’s passed down it’s reinforced. It’s really an Oligarchy but men were the majority power throughout history therefore it’s called as such.
/r/EverydayMisandry29/06/24 10:08 AM
5

EXACTLY!!!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/06/24 10:00 AM

True, not my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 10:00 AM

As you should, that’s insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 09:58 AM

Good move, especially going home in a different direction, I do that a lot when I think someone’s following me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 09:02 AM

Where I was coming from, if they drove in front of me, I’d be trapped. So I decided to bite the bullet and get across as quickly as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 08:57 AM

I had no choice, if I stayed where I was, I was cornered.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 08:40 AM

You truly don’t understand how much that scared me:
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 08:40 AM

Lmao, way to invalidate my experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 08:06 AM

I am thank you, battery died though, need to charge my phone before I go out next time. It’s too dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 07:45 AM

I agree, we’re very ignorant sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 07:27 AM

Yea, I generally agree but we shouldn’t generalise ofc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 06:52 AM

And I literally never contradicted that lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 06:52 AM

How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 06:48 AM

Weaker men are more likely to be attacked than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 06:37 AM

So in every situation women have it worse? Is that a fair characterisation of your view?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 06:31 AM

Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 06:30 AM

No, it’s just that you can’t accept that they’d obviously go after weaker men as well. Women aren’t idiots, they walk in groups and tale precautions. Men unfortunately generally are and they go out alone and get fuxked. That’s also a contributor to men dying more. Point is obviously it’s not just women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 06:27 AM

“You can’t accept that men may have struggles comparable to or worse than women” Would that be a fair characterisation of you? No. Stop doing that to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 06:23 AM

THEY TRY TO MAKE SURE YOY CAN’T RUN AWAY!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 06:22 AM

Ok…? And how does them looking for an easy target mean you can run away easier?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 06:19 AM

I attacked your argument retard. This is a ad hominem
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 06:15 AM

Ok, then you're in tho minority of mugging if you just "ran away" most muggers corner/surround you. Running away is the first thing they think of, you probably got mugged by an amateur, lucky. Most women aren't raped when they're mugged btw lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 06:09 AM

I agree but that doesn't contradict my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 06:06 AM

I did, so did u. I accept what I don't know so I can learn more, you don't do that, you're more clueless than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 06:05 AM

You've never been mugged, that's obvious. Don't speak on things u don't know. Your description of events is extremely ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 06:04 AM

The point was never how well equipped men are to face the danger but that they both experience the danger. Because when you're caught off guard/surrounded/outnumbered/unprepared/etc. you're fucked. There's no strength differential, you can/t overpower a bullet, a blow to the head, joint, etc. Your view is extremely infantile and dangerous, educate yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 06:02 AM

No, because the point was never that men weren't a threat. It's that men are as much at risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:52 AM

Yep, doesn't mean anything lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:47 AM
52

It’s a common argument. Anytime men speak up about generalisation it’s seen as being taken personally to disregard it. It’s funny how they dismiss men as being emotional when that’s one of their talking points lol.
/r/EverydayMisandry29/06/24 05:39 AM

Ok? You’re ignorant of how dangerous women can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:38 AM

Not true, there are statistics on this, look it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:19 AM

Is that to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:18 AM

They are, that doesn't contradict anything I said at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:15 AM
8

Could u elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:14 AM

Actually? Yeah lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:55 AM
6

And so why are you reinforcing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:55 AM
3

I’m not the one who deflected first.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:40 AM

No, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:39 AM
1

Did you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:26 AM
10

The idea that assertions are masculine are a patriarchal idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:17 AM

It seems as a woman you are unable to see yourself as anything more than a victim and me as anything more than a threat. None of what I said was playing a victim. Stop being bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:11 AM
-2

That’s patriarchy speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:05 AM

Men get victimised at higher ratesMen are more at risk
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:04 AM

That is such an extremely uncharitable and inaccurate assessment of the situation. You are literally victim blaming. This proves my prior point. Women take precautions against this all the time, obviously something can be done. Be real.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:03 AM

Ok and? That’s irrelevant you understand that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:49 AM

What is wrong with you? As a man do you not care about men being victimised? I’m not your enemy, I’m just trying to help.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:47 AM

Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:41 AM

Simply because I and many men have experienced this. I’ve had actual authorities tell me that it’s reported less. And you underestimate the strength of numbers and surprised. I’ve seen many men die to weakwr opponents.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:40 AM

Ofc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:38 AM

<image> That is a myth. Men are asked why they didn’t do anything anything, why they let it happen and what they did wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:38 AM

Exactly, that’s the difference. Men are taught that they’re threats and women that they are vulnerable victims. We need to change this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:30 AM

You’re clearly privileged, you think this just happens in 3rd world countries? Get some perspective. Stop clinging to your biases and understand that men are often as vulnerable as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:29 AM

You are just blinded by bias. Strength difference means nothing when you’re ambushed. Am O going to fight off multiple people solo? Unprepared? Be real. And we don’t have similar rates because cases of male victimisation aren’t reported.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:28 AM
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Was Cleopatra masculine? Was Princess Diana masc? Florence Nightingale? Marilyn Monroe?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:25 AM

It still is lol, 😂 ain’t home yet
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:24 AM
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The idea that women can’t be assertive is a myth, we’ve seen assertive feminine women for centuries, get real.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 02:49 AM
1

That’s what a partner should be. NOT A THERAPIST
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 12:50 AM
1

Not being vulnerable is the trap homie, it’s just you gotta know who to trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 11:29 PM
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Some do.
/r/EverydayMisandry28/06/24 09:44 PM
5

But if a man said he found women more comfortable, that’d be fine and praised.
/r/EverydayMisandry28/06/24 04:54 PM
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I’ve got a suicide statistic that seems to disagree with that.
/r/EverydayMisandry28/06/24 02:23 AM
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EXACTLY!!!!
/r/EverydayMisandry28/06/24 01:53 AM
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Exactly.
/r/EverydayMisandry27/06/24 10:59 PM
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True, but the majority of attractive successful peeps aren’t in successful relationships either.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 10:58 PM
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Eh… I disagree. I think it’s if you have 3 and 5 you probably have the rest already.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 10:37 PM
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Insane isn’t it?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/24 09:54 PM
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The bar for men is literally: 1. Resist every negative aspect of being a man. 2. Support women unconditionally 3. Be attractive 4. Be competent 5. Be successful 6. Be highly empathetic 7. Be Stoic 8. Be Vulnerable 9. Be Masculine but not too Masculine Some of these are reasonable, some are ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 09:43 PM
5

Indeed, many don’t accept it even exists.
/r/EverydayMisandry27/06/24 09:35 PM
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Wanna see something hilarious? Look at this.
/r/EverydayMisandry27/06/24 08:54 PM
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Same tbh, I feel like our disagreements shouldn’t prevent us from solving the greater issue. Anything as serious as this has to be argued over, that doesn’t mean that every argument is bad. What are some solutions that u think we’d disagree on?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/24 08:53 PM
3

Check this out.
/r/EverydayMisandry27/06/24 08:47 PM
2

Great mindset, glad you’re exploring opposite perspectives, any you think I’d disagree with?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/24 08:46 PM
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Meant to post this here but thought it wasn’t important enough.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/24 08:40 PM
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Exactly, they use their experience to discount others.
/r/EverydayMisandry27/06/24 08:39 PM
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LMAOOOOOOOO, BASED. And I obviously get that you’re trying to point out what they’re doing in the same way they are but I have to say (Not All Women) Gotta be better than them, sigh…
/r/EverydayMisandry27/06/24 08:34 PM
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Makes sense, thx for this, helped a lot of my ignorant notions.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/24 08:19 PM
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Some women.
/r/EverydayMisandry27/06/24 07:41 PM
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Thank you, I’m glad you made that post and so many men spoke up.
/r/EverydayMisandry27/06/24 07:06 PM
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That’s what they say they are but they spend most of their time complaining about why they “went their own way” instead of actually going there.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/24 06:59 PM
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Some women.
/r/EverydayMisandry27/06/24 06:44 PM
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Yep, I’ve said that multiple times. Many men have said in here “But women do say this to men” and that’s true, but strawmanning the average woman as doing these things is just wrong.
/r/EverydayMisandry27/06/24 06:35 PM
1

Exactly, and I’m doing the former.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/24 05:58 PM
1

Lmao, too true. But sometimes you have to.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/24 05:50 PM
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I wish more people could see that.
/r/EverydayMisandry27/06/24 05:50 PM
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That’s what I’m saying lol.
/r/EverydayMisandry27/06/24 05:17 PM
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Honestly, I wasn’t even looking for this shit, I was just scrolling.
/r/EverydayMisandry27/06/24 04:57 PM
25

r/comics sadly.
/r/EverydayMisandry27/06/24 04:53 PM
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Actually so fucking true.
/r/EverydayMisandry27/06/24 04:53 PM
12

Fr.
/r/EverydayMisandry27/06/24 04:35 PM
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It’s genuinely funny, I’m not gonna lie. The hypocritical ignorance is staggering.
/r/EverydayMisandry27/06/24 04:26 PM
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Well ofc but how do we prevent becoming MGTOW?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/24 04:22 PM
1

It’s easier for them to “get dates” even then it’s mostly just for sex not dating. We all have our issues, just wished we worked on fixing them than blaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:05 PM
1

Expressiveness, Outgoing nature, Assertiveness and Caring.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 10:09 PM
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I’d say people are way less scared to be openly misandrist and go mask off.
/r/EverydayMisandry25/06/24 10:03 PM
0

??? What are you talking about? Could you answer my question? Ofc, women should reject lying, desperate losers, how’s that even a question?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 08:19 PM
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Do they? Don’t they get into “redpill” to date in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 07:52 PM
1

It’s almost like looking into a mirror…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/24 09:04 AM
0

I miss flash games so much…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/24 08:57 AM
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Sigh…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/24 11:08 PM
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But should helping men be a matter of whose politics you side with? Why does there need to be an agenda when it comes to this? I don’t get it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/24 11:00 PM
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This shit exactly, every conversation I have need 20 caveats and 100 different pre-emptive defences for whatever I’m talking about just be treated to the worst faith imaginable.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/24 07:22 PM
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I fully agree, I hate the term MRA has been co-opted by grifters and exploiters and men’s activism is just seen as inherently misogynistic. It’s sad that something as basic as this is seen as inherently political but I get why it’s done so that the wrong message isn’t sent. All in all, something needs to change but how do we even do that?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/24 07:19 PM
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I don’t get it? Where’s the misandry?
/r/EverydayMisandry03/03/24 01:16 AM

It is, I just wanted have them confirm that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 04:27 PM

A lot of men aren’t too lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:56 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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