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Like damn, am I missing out on that much?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 07:32 PM
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“Bi men discriminated against, women most affected”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 05:15 PM
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So you believe that all men will cheat as much as their options let them?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 05:14 PM
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If it’s an issue caused by women, why should I give a fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 06:15 AM
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Thank you for being honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 02:06 AM
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Well where are we supposed to go? We were told “You’ll never meet the love of your life at a bar or club, go to a hobby group or take some classes” But also “Women don’t take classes or partake in hobbies to meet guys, don’t be that creepy dude who’s only there to get women.” We were told “Women don’t want to be approached by guys on the street, they want to form a connection with guys organically then fall in love with them” But also “Women hate it when their friends were just guys hoping to ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 01:15 AM
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Everyone agrees that something about the way the opposite sexes meet is terribly broken, but no one can agree on what. Men blame women, women blame men. Men say: “Women only want the top 20% of guys, they’ll disqualify you immediately as long as you’re short or anything else. Approach the wrong woman and she’ll shame you and ruin your reputation. Even if she says yes she’ll treat you like a nuisance the whole time, then if she settles for you she’ll cheat as soon as an upgrade comes along, and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 12:38 AM
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The fact that they’re far less likely to be taken seriously by both police and courts, and the women can end up weaponizing the system against men anyway. Oftentimes things like that come down to his word against hers, so men have to deal with the question of “Who are they going to believe?”’ when the cops show up. And even if he does have evidence, the justice system is flawed and might not carry things out as they should.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 10:26 PM
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Do you have any of these documentations? Or is this just another one of those truisms,
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 10:34 PM
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Then you’re the exception
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 10:26 PM
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Depends on who we’re imagining. Obviously no one’s fucking the scraggly trailer park methhead missing a shoe wandering outside 7/11 at 4:30 in the morning. But a guy who’s tall, masculine and dominant will have a lot girls running to him after sunset, even if he can’t hold down a job or has a few felonies to his name. Sure, he’s not meeting anyone’s parents, but all he wants is sex and he’s getting it. Bonus points if he lives outside his means and flaunts a lifestyle he can’t afford on social m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 10:17 PM
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Keyword caught. Big difference between a woman’s public and secret relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 09:58 PM
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Money doesn’t affect how attracted a woman is to a man. But women absolutely reluctantly settle for less attractive men who have money. This is known.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 09:48 PM
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Real women can be better than a robot. It comes down to risk/reward. A real woman is extreme risk for ultimate reward. Many women can and will ruin your life just because they feel like it, they can cheat on you, or abuse you, or gaslight you, or take everything they know about you and use it against you to mentally scar you. They can use you for free meals, they can suddenly stop loving you one day for seemingly no reason, you can pursue them for weeks to get ghosted or strung along. And there’…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 09:42 PM
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So wouldn’t it be counterintuitive for women to shame men who use AIs, when the bottom 80% or so men turning to AI would hugely improve the average woman’s quality of life?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 06:47 PM
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Isnt this AI stuff good for women though? Undesirable men won’t bother women with their public existence anymore, and get to recede into their AI dens where they can’t ick or creep anyone. Sounds like a win-win to me. Y’all should be the ones promoting this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 08:08 AM
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Elon Musk has power, and there’s no greater aphrodisiac to women than power.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 12:51 AM
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“Women have all these things that men don’t. Whaaa” Again, another thing I’ve never said. You talking to me, or a made up version of me?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 11:21 PM
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The reason women latch onto this content so much is that they innately resonate with it. It speaks to their soul, they don’t have to live a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 07:13 PM
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There’s no version of dating that isn’t “shallow”. People who promote this idea of certain requirements being shallow are usually stuck on the holistic “true love, compatibility” version of dating we pretend to have. That’s not dating. Men select women for fertility, women select men for resources and protection. For men, that means looks and lack of previous children, and for women, that means money and masculinity. That’s it. That’s what the whole song and dance is about. Courtship and dating …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 07:11 PM
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Men understand to an extent that women are afraid of men, but they can’t comprehend just how prevalent, hard-wired, and constant this fear is. They don’t understand that 100% of women who don’t know them are worrying about his intentions, whether or not he’s insane, a stalker, pervert, etc in every interaction with them. They don’t understand that when women say “all men”, it’s not hyperbole, they really do hate all men. They don’t understand that their very existence makes women question their …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 06:53 PM
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Women can afford to have red flags, because men innately desire women, unlike women who need to be convinced to want a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 04:26 PM
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Women see the water they get as dirtier than men do, and by a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 04:17 PM
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“Seems like you think women should do these things for men too?” When did I say that. Don’t put words in my mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 02:35 AM
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From how women say it it would certainly seem that every man is swamp water
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 02:31 AM
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Problem is, women as a collective have been taught this lesson, men haven’t. Women have had feminism, women’s rights, and new updated media that enlightens them to the fact that they don’t need men and are better off without them. Meanwhile men are still told that their worth comes from their ability to find a woman, start a family with her, and provide for them, even though thats not the world we live in anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 02:07 AM
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I agree with you. Women dislike male attention. It’s not a privilege it’s like constantly getting shit thrown at you by monkeys. Women will never “look” for male attention, whenever they come across it, it comes to them, not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 02:02 AM
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The only woman in the comments expressing her true feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 01:57 AM
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Women are just as dissatisfied with the dating scene as men are. Just admit this is grifting.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 01:54 AM
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Women “looking” for men is existing in a public space or having an account on any app. Men looking for a woman is doing all of the courtship and approaches and “game” and with the lower success rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 01:38 AM
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I typically hear the metaphor “For men it’s like finding water in a desert, for women it’s like finding water in a swamp”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 04:29 AM
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Yes, the idea of romance was invented by men, who controlled culture for nearly all of human history. Romantic love was something that men projected onto women, because they fell in love with them, so they associated the idea of love with women, and artificially made it a feminine concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 03:08 AM
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Women will act a certain way in front of men because they feel threatened by them. Deep down, this content resonates deeply with them and expresses their true feelings. Just because they put up a front with you doesn’t mean they disagree with it. In fact, they agree with it in it’s entirety.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 04:43 AM
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Do real living breathing humans not go on tiktok and express their opinions on their?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 09:51 PM
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Rage bait, or the mask coming off?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 08:54 PM
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The question isn’t whether or not its a healthy mindset. This is their innate mindset, the “reasons” are just a reason for them to reveal it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 06:59 PM
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Women find all men creepy. Attraction isnt the same as creepiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 05:55 AM
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Isn’t this already the standard?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 07:15 AM
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It’s projection, because the (heterosexual) male brain is hardwired to obsess over women. Its a hard pill to swallow for many men that the feeling isn’t mutual.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 05:16 AM
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I feel like women resent the fact that men have to find them sexually attractive before they consider them for commitment. It’s like the opposite of how women work.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 12:37 AM
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A lot of interactions between men and women make sense once you realize that women see every man as an immediate threat unless proven otherwise. A man who noticed a woman is one more potential risk to her well-being, while a man who doesn’t notice her is not. Of course women will put effort in their appearance when they’ve been socialized to be feminine. Its not that they want their beauty to be noticed, its that they don’t want to be ridiculed for a lack of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 09:48 PM
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Because women by default don’t want men, and will only get with a man if convinced otherwise (aka courtship). So the man’s role in dating is to convince a woman that her life will be better with him, hence, pickup artistry. Dating isn’t difficult for women because of any troubles finding a willing man, it’s difficult for them because they have difficulty finding anything worthwhile out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 07:11 AM
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Single women report higher satisfaction with their current relationship status, on average, than similar single men. (https://www.psypost.org/women-report-greater-satisfaction-with-singlehood-than-men-study-finds/#:~:text=The%20researchers%20found%20that%20single,more%20content%20with%20being%20single.) Study Cited in the above article: (https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/19485506241287960) Women are much more willing to divorce their partners. Almost 70% of divorces are initiated by the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 07:07 AM
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Do tell, why would his current situation be worse than being in an unsatisfying relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 06:18 AM
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Could not be further from the truth. All the evidence we have suggests that women are more content being single than men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 06:17 AM
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Psychology is a known soft science. It’s not bunk. But there’s a difference between evaluating mental states/emotions and things we can empirically measure such as the natural sciences. There aren’t many hard numbers to measure that aren’t statistics that derive from qualitative measurements. Almost everything lies on a spectrum or gradient rather than having a concrete definition. It’s wrong to dismiss it, but also wrong to treat it like word of god.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 06:14 AM
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Unconditional love doesn’t exist, it arises when we see something we want from someone else. Goes for men and women both.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 06:06 AM
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In terms of casual sex, yes it’s easier, much easier. In terms of finding a good ltr, no, the idea guys have of a traditional feminine girl in the middle of nowhere who loves men and marriage is a fantasy myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 06:02 AM
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I would go further and extend this to LTRs and marriage as well. I hear people say stuff along the lines of “The fact that men and women think and act so differently from each other is what makes them complete each other so well” or “The fact that masculinity and femininity are polar opposites are what make it so beautiful when they come together”. …The stats on homosexual relationships essentially prove this is bullshit. Turns out, not having to worry about the gap the sexes have understanding …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 05:51 AM
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If someone gave you a box of chocolates and told you one of them was laced with cyanide, would you be wary of the box?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 06:54 AM
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Women get pissed off at red pill too. Strange thing how no one likes it when the opposite sex discovers the true nature of their own. (This applies to both men and women)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 06:48 AM
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4B is the optimal route for a woman seeking to maximize her quality of life. Why is this a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 06:46 AM
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aint that the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 01:11 PM
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According to the sources, yes I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 01:01 AM
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https://www.news10.com/news/survey-finds-up-to-50-percent-of-people-admit-to-snooping-on-partners-phone/#:~:text=How%20addicted%20are%20you%20to%20your%20phone?,them%20while%20only%2037%%20of%20women%20have. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ok-to-check-partners-phone_n_5b6b68fbe4b0bdd0620628b1#:~:text=Your%20Partner’s%20Phone?-,Marriage%20Therapists%20Weigh%20In.,men%20admitted%20to%20doing%20so.&text=These%20days%2C%20snooping%20on%20your,partner%20is%20guilty%20of%20it. https://yougov.co.uk/soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 12:57 AM
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Ok, I’ll answer your question directly. YES, a paternity test IS an expression of distrust. I’m not denying that. However, you need a certain level of distrust towards other people so you won’t get screwed over, some more than others. You should trust your partner, but the risk of not getting a paternity test is way higher than the risk of getting one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 12:00 AM
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A certain level of distrust is healthy. You should only 100% trust yourself and your children.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:56 PM
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Same principle applies. Blindly trusting the wrong woman is how men discover an affair after 5 years and lose everything in divorce court. Blindly trusting the wrong man is how you end up in a violent relationship. Blind trust can get you into a terrible situation, regardless if you’re a man or woman. Paternity test is just that extra assurance that you aren’t about to put yourself in a shitty situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:50 PM
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Hiring an escort is pathetic, but just keep this shit on the DL. Most people these days have disgusting pasts when it comes to sex anyways not like this shit stands out from the crowd
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:41 PM
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I’m not paying attention to you in specific, I’m just seeing a lot of comments that support double standards. Again, not you, but most women regularly snoop through their husband’s phone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:39 PM
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Not all men are the same! Some men just need more reassurance than others. Some men have been damaged by infidelity in the past (or know men who have) and carry that trauma with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:34 PM
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How is the principle behind a paternity test any different from going through your husband’s text messages to make sure he isn’t talking to other women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:31 PM
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Is blind trust not how women get into abusive relationships? The only people you should give 100% trust to are yourself and your kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:26 PM
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Both men and women are more drawn to attractive people of poor character, than to plain looking people with a heart of gold. That’s the way our brains work.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:22 PM
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Vetting is important for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:21 PM
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Its a common double standard
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 10:53 PM
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Crazy thing is women will say this then flip out if their male partner follows similarly unattainable insta models
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 10:26 PM
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Women crush on unattainable men because deep down relationships with men make them miserable, but society still brainwashes them into the idea of male romance. The only way for them to resolve this paradox that the patriarchy created is to fantasize about a man they could never have. That way, they can fulfill the fake need for romance that society forced them to have, but they don’t have to suffer by being associated with a man either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 10:18 PM
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A celebrity crush is a form of escapism for women. What is being escaped from is her relationship to her male partner, since when women get into relationships with men they feel trapped in an awful situation. This is where the celebrity crush manifests. Our culture indoctrinates women to be passive, so they fantasize about someone else (ie the celebrity) pulling them out of the relationship. It’s not necessarily about the specific celebrity, per say, but that the celebrity acts as a vehicle to i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 10:14 PM
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I haven’t seen anything that suggests women actually like men. Everything in how the world works shows the opposite to me. I draw conclusions based on evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 09:33 PM
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It takes A LOT of fat for a woman to acknowledge that she’s fat
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 08:54 PM
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Cause having a common condition that affects millions of people who are living normal everyday lives automatically means none of your opinions have any merit gotchya gotchya What the fuck are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 12:23 PM
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Took only 5 minutes to check, the OP to post you linked to is a fat woman, so obviously she’s going to struggle dating. 99% of women are going their own way
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 07:25 AM
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Edit: Lmao I got blocked. And I can’t have a discussion? Please. China had a one child policy for many years due to fears of overpopulation. https://www.britannica.com/topic/one-child-policy This resulted in social norms of China shifting to smaller families with larger family units becoming taboo and resulting in a general fear towards parenthood in the population, even as China increased the limit of children. Because of social norms in China, most families preferred to have bots, so many girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 06:10 AM
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Countries where women are treated worse they have more children… because those women are having children against their will. You do realize that, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 06:01 AM
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Prioritizing character over attractiveness is the definition of settling. Settling is extremely unappealing for both men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 05:50 AM
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“Where are all the good men?” Is entirely fabricated by men. No woman is actually asking this, women are the ones content single, not men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 05:50 AM
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Birth rates falling has nothing to do with economics. If you look at the highest birth rate countries in the world, pretty much all of them are third world nations where people can barely scrape by. https://www.statista.com/statistics/262884/countries-with-the-highest-fertility-rates/ However, most of these countries also have some of the worst conditions for women’s rights in the world. https://www.concern.net/news/worst-countries-for-womens-rights Meanwhile, most of the western world, where pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 05:45 AM
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Did you go to the second slide? Women have nearly a 1 in 2 match rate, for men it’s 1 in 50. Of course, that’s not necessarily beneficial to women, because most of those men make women sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 03:52 AM
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It’s an analogy. I’m not saying you literally think men are roadkill. I’m saying that the men that men are telling you to settle for are men who are going to actively worsen your life by being in relationships with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 03:50 AM
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The answer is immigration In terms of US Citizens, people are leaving. In 2023: In terms of domestic migration (ie. moving from one state to another) California experienced a net loss of 268,000 people However, that year California saw a total population growth of +0.17% https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/articles/2024-04-30/californias-population-grew-in-2023-for-first-time-since-2020#:~:text=The%20population%20rose%20by%2067%2C000,compared%20to%2090%2C300%20in%202022. California has the high…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 03:45 AM
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What men don’t get, is that women’s feelings toward men range from “absolute misery” to “somewhat tolerable”. Telling women to “lower their standards” is like someone telling you “Hey, how come you only eat prison food? There’s plenty of roadkill on the street, how come you aren’t eating that?”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 03:31 AM
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I agree with this statement more. Only a small amount of men benefit from dating apps, but there’s no benefit for dating apps to women. Men (who can outcompete other men) benefit from access to women, but women don’t benefit from men having access to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 03:26 AM
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Imagine a salesman walks up to you, and offers you a jar of diarrhea for just $5.99. That’s about the level of appeal dating apps have for women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 09:50 PM
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Sure, tinder mainly benefits men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 09:34 PM
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It really depends, people’s empathy changes depending on who they’re being empathic towards. Women have the most empathy for small children, much more than men, too. The reason should be obvious, as the maternal instinct is very strong. This also extends to animals considered “cute”, which is also why animals like cats are so popular with women, because it allows them to experience their motherly instincts without being forced to pretend to like a man. Also, this usually only extends to domestic…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 09:03 PM
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I mean I am autistic so touché I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 05:13 PM
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Ok, saying that women don’t say “I hate men” is just being intellectually dishonest. Any friend group of solely women is comfortable saying it. Plus, if you wanted to you could probably find a video of a woman saying it to the camera in maybe 10 seconds flat
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 05:08 PM
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I feel like the vast majority (>95%) do. Women say “I hate men” all the time, who am I to not believe them? I feel like this subreddit just attracts a much different sample of women than normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 04:54 PM
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Ok, that one bit of research might have been produced on faulty information, but I still have the personal experiences of thousands of women backing up what I’m saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 04:43 PM
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I think deep down, many men are jealous that women are able to so easily find peace and contentment single, while as for men it takes a ton of self-actualization and soul searching. They wish it was the other way around, but despite how women think about and treat men, most men desperately want a woman. I also think a lot of men are just confused. For decades it’s been socially acceptable, the standard even, to say that women are better off without men, since the feminism movement has been aroun…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 04:38 PM
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Im on good terms with all my female relatives, but thats different because there’s a different dynamic when it comes to family, and also women naturally care for their family. For non relatives, I have had female acquaintances that I’ve had “positive” interactions with. But at the same time I’m aware that women usually put up a front when they’re talking to men, because men make them feel threatened. I try to respect their wishes and not talk to them any more than I have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 04:31 PM
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Well fucking said man
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 03:52 PM
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Women have certainly tried. Theyve tried to tell men that approaching them is sexual harassment. But alas men continue with their delusions
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 06:03 AM
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I’ve linked to quite a large amount of women who are speaking for themselves, and concurring with what I have to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 04:09 AM
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Ok don’t believe me then. I have a full on dick and balls but sure, man. How often do you see a woman pretending to be a man on Reddit anyway? Isn’t it usually the opposite, men pretending to be women to say shit like “Actually men are all good”.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 03:53 AM
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I’m male.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 03:30 AM
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Again, socialization
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 03:17 AM
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From the comment’s I’ve read, I think most of the women here do agree with me, but they’re still trying to move me wrong/argue? I’m not sure, really, its pretty confusing. Its kind of surprising that most (well, like half) of the men here are agreeing and basically none of the women are. You’d think it’d be the other way around, most of the things I’m saying are pretty typical feminist rhetoric. Maybe this sub typically just attracts non-feminist type women, so I’m getting a sample that doesn’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 03:16 AM
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I don’t hate men, or else I would hate myself which I don’t. I don’t really consider myself as misanthropic either as I try to treat people respectfully. I just looked at all the evidence and I saw a truth. Women are sick and tired of men. Hell, women say it every day, who am I to not believe them? I dont go around discrediting people’s experiences like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 03:03 AM
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Your first paragraph: I agree with in its entirety. That was half the point of my post. The rest of your comment: No idea where you got any of that from my post. None of this was about rejection
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 01:52 AM
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IDK either. Maybe it’s because I’m a man? Maybe it’s just contrarianism? Maybe they wish I was wrong on some level? I dont know. I feel like if I was a woman this would resonate a lot more
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 01:47 AM
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Ok let me rephrase. Men are obsessed with wanting to fuck women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 12:36 AM
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“women voluntarily, without any pressure, enter long-term relationships with men” I addressed that in my post too, see part 3 And also, I believe Reddit is a more authentic source for women’s opinions, because on Reddit they aren’t afraid of backlash from men and can freely and openly speak their minds
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 12:07 AM
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You do realize that out of those four billion, many of them live in poor, developing nations where they have little freedoms, right? And those nations tend to have the highest fertility rates in the entire world. Meanwhile, almost the entire developed world, where women have bodily autonomy, is under replacement rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 11:56 PM
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So you like men who are following my advice to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 11:49 PM
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Not infantilizing, just acknowledging that for the majority of human history women were forced to get married due to either men’s brute strength, being classified as a man’s property, or having their finances restricted unless they married.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 11:46 PM
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Because men are obsessed with women. The dynamics are different. Men are obsessed with women and women want to get away from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 11:41 PM
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“What am I talking about” I literally posted psychological sources, historical sources, as well as the accounts of thousands of women saying firsthand that they hate men. Please read my post before disagreeing with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 11:40 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_heterosexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 11:38 PM
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I’m no manhater. Overall, I have pretty great mental health, which I wouldn’t have if I hated myself. I simply think this is the right way to go, and we should stop trying to bring back “good old days” gender dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 11:33 PM
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Since you have tiktok attention span, let’s just go through the highlight reel. No unnecessary things like reading comprehension, just hard evidence. Women find men tolerable but plain at best and physically repulsive at worst (https://www.betonit.ai/p/the-typical-man-disgusts-the-typical) The countries with the highest fertility rates (https://www.statista.com/statistics/262884/countries-with-the-highest-fertility-rates/) and the countries with the worst women’s rights (https://www.concern.net/…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 11:30 PM
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So you’re going to just discredit thousands of women and their experiences? And for what? So men can go around harassing women more? Forcing them into miserable relationships? Really, for what?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 11:24 PM
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This is not a blackpill. The blackpill explicitly states that women want the men with best genes and nothing else matters. I am saying here that genes don’t matter. Don’t know where you got that from. I don’t consider myself a blackpiller and never have. I don’t go around thinking doom and gloom and I don’t talk about “ch@ds” and “incels” and all that blackpill rhetoric
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 11:04 PM
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Which of my points would you call “deranged”? What evidence that I gave you would you call “deranged”? Which of the thousands of women I’ve provided as first-hand accounts supporting my claim would you call “deranged”?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 11:00 PM
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Every rule has it’s exceptions. Glad marriage has worked out for you. Some marriages have been benign or even positive for women, but overall most women would have had a higher quality of life if they had never married. Just remember not to discredit their experiences. Also, I feel like family doesn’t count, because it’s a totally different dynamic. Interactions with men in your family aren’t plagued by them wanted it from you (And even then, many unfortunate women have been exploited by male fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 10:58 PM
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Can you elaborate your question?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 10:50 PM
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Lets trace back for a second. I said that men getting falsely accused of rape, and women getting raped, are both rare events. I never said false accusations are more common than rapes. You misrepresented me by trying to make it seem like I said “Women are saying the actual amount of rapes doesn’t matter”, when what I’m actually saying is that “Even if rape or false accusations are rare, being wary of men or women because of them is justified” Tell me, how is that not a misrepresentation of my ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 09:31 PM
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What are you trying to argue? Are you trying to make any point in particular, or are you going to keep arguing over semantics?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 09:15 PM
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Not a statistically significant amount. Both rape and false accusations happen to a very small portion of the population in the developed world. What point are you trying to even make? It doesn’t seem like you’re arguing for anything in particular.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 09:04 PM
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I’m not getting backed in any corner, you’re intentionally misrepresenting me, while avoiding making any point of your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 08:54 PM
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If this is such common knowledge, then why do you see so many men here insisting that women enjoy getting approached, and that if men stopped giving women unwanted attention, they’d get depressed, despite single women being happier by a large margin?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 08:52 PM
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Rape is more common, but not by a huge amount. And the reason so many men are getting mad in this thread, is because most men aren’t ready to hear what women think of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 08:41 PM
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Men can be feminists, but most men aren’t ready to hear what feminists have to say about men. Most men are still deluded, and live in a fantasy world where women enjoy being sexually harassed on the street by men, and enjoy being forced to get into relationships with men due to financial/social pressures, when that couldn’t be further from the truth. Being a feminist man means listening to feminists, and feminists want to be free of men. https://np.reddit.com/r/AskWomenOver30/s/boO3689PXh https:…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 08:11 PM
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Men can be feminists, but most men aren’t ready to hear the things feminists have to say about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 08:06 PM
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The reason is women just don’t like men, plain and simple. So yes, women will walk away if they can, but not for petty reasons. Men are just bad for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 07:46 PM
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Both rapes and false rape accusations are statically rare, and will never happen to most people. But the possibility of either happening at all is enough for women to be extremely wary of men, and for men to be extremely wary of women. What part are you not understanding here
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 07:26 PM
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I never said that, I said women are walking away permanently because they’re realizing that they want nothing to do with men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 07:10 PM
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How do I hate women? I recognize that women want to be left alone. To hate women is to approach them and have relationships with them. Single women are consistently happier than single men https://www.artsci.utoronto.ca/news/new-study-finds-single-women-are-happier-single-men Single women are the happiest demographic https://www.forbes.com/sites/traversmark/2024/11/09/4-reasons-why-single-women-are-the-happiest-people-on-earth-by-a-psychologist/ Women experience less stress after their husbands …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 06:48 PM
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Single women are consistently happier than single men https://www.artsci.utoronto.ca/news/new-study-finds-single-women-are-happier-single-men Single women are the happiest demographic https://www.forbes.com/sites/traversmark/2024/11/09/4-reasons-why-single-women-are-the-happiest-people-on-earth-by-a-psychologist/ Women experience less stress after their husbands die, than women who have a living husband https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/study-women-experience-less-stress-after-husbands-die/ A…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 05:01 PM
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Woman are waking up and coming to that conclusion. Given the choice, women will always walk away from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 03:44 PM
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The patriarchy is very real… in developing countries. Many countries in South Asia, North Africa, and Middle East legitimately have many societal problems and barriers for women that need to be called out and removed. But we all know that feminists will never fight for those people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 03:40 PM
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False, women do not like being approached by men. You can’t just discredit the women saying this by calling them “antisocial”. Women are flooded with unwanted attention daily all they want is for men to leave them alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 03:30 PM
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What they’re saying is that they’re justified in being wary of all men, even though 99% aren’t rapists. Are men not justified in being wary of women? Nice try intentionally strawmanning me, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 03:22 PM
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Your argument seems to revolve around the rates of reports that come to police, and the legal aspect of allegations, but you’re ignoring that women don’t even have to legally accuse a man to damage him. All it takes for a woman to tarnish a man’s name is to spread a rumor accusing him of rape, or gossip about him to her friends, never mind going to the police. Most of the time the most damaging false accusations towards men are the accusations that never even attempt to press formal charges. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 06:52 AM
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Women have been talking about the same thing for years now, just for rapists instead of accusations. You know, the whole “if someone handed you a box of chocolates and told you one of them was poisoned” thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 06:47 AM
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“asexual gold digger” yeah if I was a woman I’d totally name my account that 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 02:56 AM
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Because women are hard-wired to see every man as a potential threat. A man’s lust represents potential violence, as well as the possibility of accidental pregnancy. A woman’s lust, at least from women’s POV, has none of those risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 10:00 PM
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No matter how many times this gets posted, this is going to change the minds of zero straight women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 09:48 PM
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I believe the point is to unveil the life of the “bad boys” that so many men are jealous of, all because those guys get women easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 12:27 AM
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Hear it from the ladies themselves, folks. Approaching. Is. Creepy. Do. Not. Approach. Don’t delude yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 05:24 PM
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Two opposite problems but they’re just as bad as each other. Thing is its a vicious cycle too. Guys are thirstier than girls so they bombard them with sexual attention, girls get overwhelmed and leave, there’s less women on the apps so guys get even more desperate and each woman still on the apps gets bombarded even more…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 05:10 PM
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The entitlement in this thread is insane. Women saying clear as day that they don’t like being approached, and men trying to project their own fantasy world where they can harass a woman at any time. Maybe if they actually listened than men would be slightly less disgusting to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 04:22 AM
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I mean, there is no real valid counterpoint, so I didn’t expect there to be one. I guess men STILL aren’t ready to hear this, even though women have been trying to get it through their heads for the last four decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 04:17 AM
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You mean women how women act when they’re trying not to get killed?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 04:13 AM
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I don’t see what you’re not getting here. Yes, most of those things were true. The reason those systems were able to be put into place is because women are physically weaker. But if women wanted men, those systems wouldn’t have to be put into place in the first place, because women would be equally reciprocal, and I’d imagine that most men would prefer being genuinely wanted to being a creepy slaver. All the evidence supports this. U.S. marriage rates have been steadily decreasing during the 197…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 04:09 AM
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Ok sure, but what you’re saying is directly going against the testimony of not just every woman in this thread, but most women on most platforms. Also keep in mind that a lot of women fake politeness because they’re scared the man approaching them is going to kill them if they show how disgusted they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:53 AM
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If women wanted to be approached then guys wouldn’t have to go as far as treating women like property, just so women can pretend to like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:50 AM
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Where are these women that are saying this? I feel like men are making that up to justify approaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:30 AM
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Nah, Im speaking common sense. Look at every woman in this thread, they’re all saying “please don’t approach us ever” and the men are saying “but we want to”. Men’s entitlement is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:16 AM
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If you get off to people worrying about whether or not you’re about to rape them because you’re talking to them out of sheer lust then sure go for it. Thing is, 99% of women are just trying to go about their day. The last thing they want is to interact with a man, let alone have him ask her for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:13 AM
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There is no circumstance in which women want to be approached. The “approach” was a myth created by men. The dating scene sucks for women because it was created by men and forced women to participate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:05 AM
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If women wanted men to approach them, then why would every society until very recent history either force women into arranged marriages with men, or severely restrict their social and economic rights unless they were married?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:00 AM
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Keep in mind a ton of these “attractive women on dating apps” are gonna be OF Promoters, and even then the ratio is still over 3:1 guys
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 02:56 AM
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She’s ragebaiting
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:26 PM
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Same thing, they’re still conditioned to enjoy it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 08:15 PM
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It’s not so much an intentional effort to get women to want to date. It’s more so that women are taught from a very early age from all the media they absorb, that to be a woman means to be romantic. Media, culture, all the stories we tell have been entirely controlled by men for pretty much all of history. Men associate women with love and romance (because they fall in love with women), so they project those desires onto the women in the media they create, those depictions of women almost always…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 06:43 PM
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If women wanted to date more than men did, women would be the pursuers. But it’s the other way around, men hound women for love and affection so much to the point where it makes women genuinely uncomfortable. Most of what you’ve described is socialized behavior, not natural inclinations (if fact it’s pretty unnatural lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 06:14 PM
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If a man is dating up, that means his woman is dating down. Woman, the vast majority of the time, are unwilling to date down. And since men want to date women more than women want to date men, men have to play by women’s terms, which is that the woman always dates up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 05:44 PM
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Who said I disagreed with it? Red pill, loneliness epidemic, gender wars aren’t going to cause society to break down. Things are just changing, and we shouldn’t be afraid of change, let alone be working against it. And no, I don’t hate women. Just because TRP lets people recognize patterns and behaviors doesn’t mean you have to let it make you bitter and resentful person, you just let the truth set you free, and use it to live a better life, without being deceived.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 07:40 AM
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Just because men aren’t talking about redpill content in real life doesn’t mean they don’t get influenced by it. Even if they don’t fully agree (which most men agree with at least one or two points), passively consuming content is enough to subconciously alter your thought process
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 06:34 AM
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The effects of hormones on women aren’t all that much stronger than men. There’s nothing inherently more emotional or prone to attachment about being a woman other than societal conditioning, aka who people are told to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 06:25 AM
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The “sex without attachment thing” is purely socialized behavior, but both things other than that are true.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 11:08 PM
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You mean when they were finally allowed to own their own bank accounts without getting married?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 11:06 PM
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Most women in history were in marriages that were unfulfilling at best and miserable at worst. The rise of divorce is because women are no longer forced to pretend that they like their husbands. Women initiate the divorce 70% of the time, and College-Educated women (aka women who aren’t reliant on a man for income) initiate the divorce 90% of the time. That is not a group of people that wants marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 07:03 PM
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If you want to talk about hunter gatherer times, most reproduction during those times was some form of rape, because men lusted after women and women just wanted to go about their lives. For most of human history, the “cHaSe” was men literally chasing down a woman and raping her. Then, men invented “courtship” as a way to make themselves feel smart about love, and even then women were essentially forced to accept it because of how few rights they had without a husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 09:35 PM
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The dynamic was invented by men, men “pursued” women by forcing them into marriages due to their superior strength. Our notions of “romantic pursuit” and “courtship” didn’t come until much later in medieval Europe, where it was invented BY MEN. Women don’t possess any natural desire to be chased by a man, we simply socialize them to think they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 09:13 PM
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Sure, not like every civilization until like 100 years ago had laws restricting women in everything
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 08:16 PM
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No they don’t, the men who originally designed the system forced women to like it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 12:26 PM
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Don’t see how that’s worse than being with someone who actively has contempt for you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 12:23 PM
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“Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac” - Henry Kissinger. Not a role model in the slightest, but the guy knew a whole lot about power. A woman’s attraction to men is based on subconscious evolutionary needs. Essentially who would have survived in the jungles 100,000 years ago, not who provides a good stable life today. The “dangerous, aggressive bad boy” 100000 years ago was the ape who got all the fruits for his family, and could fight off predators and rival males and win. The “good, polite, frie…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 02:26 AM
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By “average guy” do you mean the average of all guys, or the average of the guys that aren’t invisible?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 12:46 PM
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Socialization. Women learned to associate themselves with marriage from viewing men’s depictions of women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 07:10 PM
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