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I wonder why you’re unable to get a woman with an attitude like that. Argument-From-Holes fallacy, again. Women date and fuck literal criminals. Clearly they have no problem fucking violent and dangerous men, therefore that attitude has nothing to do with women's attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 12:15 AM
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Men are taken advantage of way more than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:31 PM
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If this war true, nerds would be swimming on pussy as they are harmless. Women feel safe around strong men, men who are not awkward, etc. so you have to be attractive and tall and so on to make women feel safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:30 PM
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I noticed that too. Trade guys often get a lot of money in small windows of time, so that helps. They usually have stronger social relationships with coworkers, go to bar together, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:29 PM
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You only knowing men with partners prove the point of single men here, who are excluded from social gatherings, never invited to anything, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:27 PM
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Risk does not make it less of a privilege. Adults have the privilege of taking risks such as using alcohol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:27 PM
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Men seek validation from women from puberty until they either die or lose so badly from the games they’ve played that they’re forced to change. It’s not just about sex, it’s a deep sense of insecurity about their masculinity and inability handle anxiety and self-sooth. They don’t respect themselves or like themselves so they don’t respect women that like them, or believe that the women like or respect them either. They’d wouldn’t commit to themselves, so why believe someone is actually committed…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:24 PM
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Arguing with adm-hominens on holes LOL. Not a meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:22 PM
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Before answering this, why do women care so much about commitment anyway? If we lived in times women would starve without a man, or children would be abandoned on the streets after birth, commitment would still make sense because a man would be needed. Today, commitment for women is more a luxury, not really a need... like "look the nice guy I locked for ME only hahaha". Women can get love and sex without any commitment. She can use birth control but if she gets pregnant the state can enslave th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:21 PM
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The other option is for the working parent to pay the SAHP the market rate for childcare for all the hours the parent is alone at home with the children. Multiply per child You can keep making shit up in your head. I'm just glad the law in Florida is just a little more fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 05:09 AM
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Pre-internet couples were more resonable and had other criteria beside a pic on an app.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 05:07 AM
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Alimony may also be bad for women because it incentivized them to depend on a man as they feel false safety on that that may or may not come after a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 05:05 AM
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If you think being a SAHP is being a parasite that's your prerogative. Never agree to have one. I'm sure no one agrees to have pay for one even getting nothing back from that person anyway. Also only risks I see here are for the man, since social structures have changed to allow women to work and feed for themselves. Not to mention the nasty times when judged throw agreements to keep assets separated.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 05:02 AM
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The arguement is that the decision they both made for the (usually) mother to stay home and take care of the children permanently affects her professional prospects. The person that takes that decision should consider such risk before committing to it. But yes, I find many people may find temporal alimony for a year or two as good while she prepares for a career and gets a job, or at least get another husband to parasite. Alimony after that is asking the husband to sacrifice resources and time w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:45 AM
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Yeah, few women get alimony. It should not exist anyway, it is a dinosaur law.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:40 AM
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Even if she was a Stay at home partner, this should not exist anyway. In the past alimony made perfect sense... women were not able to work, but today women who choose not to work in marriage have taken a decision. Even having kids and so on, they can work when kids are at school or grow ups. Many of these women never worked because they have chosen not to work, and the ex shall not pay for that. And even if alimony was a thing, why a lifetime? She is not giving him back anything anymore, why is…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:28 AM
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Since the general trend is anti-marriage, then dont be shocked when we keep moving in that direction. I find it odd the same people that are happy for divorce being widespread also want a part of marriage to stay around paying for their fat ass to just exist. I remember the guy with Alzhaimer that was forced to pay alimony. Shit is so sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:24 AM
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those men who recognize antisocial behavior and step in to stop it are attractive. Women don't have thank-you attraction, if that was the case it would be nice nerd guys having sex. Women are attracted to a very narrow set of men, and thank you is not part of that. In fact, women feel entitled to be protected by men, they don't feel any need to "pay back" that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:22 AM
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Yeah, it is pointless, dangerous, women are boring, success rates are like 2%, etc. No wonder these women end up with sexual perverts and nasty men, those are the ones with still some energy to pursue them. They get exactly what they deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:21 AM
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I’m sure you’re really popular with the ladies Appeal-to-pussy fallacy. No wonder, you have nothing else of value.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:19 AM
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I don't blame women for this, it is not their choice. In the past their men had horrible death, so it makes sense women evolved to not have an empathy as deep as they show. That is not good or bad, that is just how women are to survive. However, I may be wrong and maybe women do have more empathy than I expect, but so far I don't see women being empathic to ANY male-specitic struggles, such as homelessness, inceldom caused by autism, etc. In fact, they demonize those men repeatedly online and vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:16 AM
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I find that comment odd, because precisely alimony is an incentive to end marriage, so by eliminating that incentive they favor marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:13 AM
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I don't think men or women are more insecure than the other. The world is safer to women more than ever, so if they are insecure about that in the West, it is probably more on them than on society. Men are insecure in issues such as sex and dating, women are insecure on emotional and psychological issues. However, when men do have psychological issues, they are usually terminal, and women women have sex and dating issues, they usually suffer more because they compare to women around, and women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:10 AM
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I think most men here understand how absurd it is for government to promote dating or relationships, that is not the point. I think the point is to prove how absurd other laws are that often force other people to fulfill some needs yet also this is considered absurd. The fact is that the state gives too many entitled and often men are paying for it with nothing in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:07 AM
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Yeah, but not for dating or sex. Just as unpaid guards. Same way they use their poor ugly friend as cock blocker.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:45 AM
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Women are too picky on looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:45 AM
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emotional and physical attraction Interesting you put it first, but yes, it the tresthold. No wonder they end up with guys that don't have any of the other traits, because there is no need to for those guys to be that if they get pussy with just having the first.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:35 AM
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I don't say it did not happen, but women have always chosen to fuck winners and they don't have any significant loyalty for the tribe/family/country they rely on to even exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:34 AM
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Women pay taxes too. Women work too (some of it paid, some of it unpaid labor). Women are extremely classist as they date the same men that they accuse of being oppressive. They also cause global warming as they don't date men without a house, car, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:30 AM
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Men are still more values as a class, though. They pay more taxes and it is expected more from them. Women just have to exist. Also top men are way more valuable than soon-expired women, in every species.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:27 AM
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Every failure men face is always placed at their feet as some personal or moral failing of that man. Not only every failure men face, also female struggles are blamed on men LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:25 AM
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If relationships are vital for mental healthy, you can make an argument that is a good reason for government to promote relationships, not to mention the advantages of healthy populations. Unless you don't believe mental health shall be an issue by the state...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:24 AM
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Observe women don't need any of that shit to be loved and have sex and relationships. Women can be narcissistic, evil, shy, stupid... they still get dick and commitment from men. Stop gaslighting men please. Why is it so hard to accept men have it harder?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:22 AM
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But you had the whole packages of experiences, and that made you be able to know what you want or not. If you don't have all the options or experience, the "what ifs" FOMO will eat you away, which is the case for most normal men who have been deprived of such experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:21 AM
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I mean, not in the context of dating if the issues are caused by yourself and you are the gatekeeper of sex and relationships, as women are today. Everyone deserves sympathy, but not everyone has the same issues in the same ways. They deserve sympathy as humans, but on dating and love, if caused by yourself, you don't. Not to mention that often that gender, women, don't have much sympathy for men they love to humiliate as incels for just being autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:18 AM
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Never? Traveling is just spending lots of money for instagram pics, not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:08 AM
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Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:07 AM
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It does not matter. They still have the options and that gives them leverage. They also have more options to date as men are more motivated to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:06 AM
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Women are also better at community-building and toxic masculinity prevents lots of men from being able to meet basic human emotional needs without a romantic partner. This shit is by itself toxic. Men who are considered toxic are the ones getting any sex, though, because they don't care about what others say and women like that. Stop gaslighting men, please. Men are less toxic than ever as a class thanks to feminism and yet they get the least sex. Clearly women are lying about the benefits of fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:05 AM
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Good for you, but your peace come from the fact you can compare and find contrast and what you prefer. Men don't usually have many options, and FOMO is there. Top men do feel like you feel, they can have no sex for weeks if they want because they can call a woman and have sex that day.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:03 AM
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I wouldnt say easier its just women do it and many men dont. They can but dont. Women can be autistic, fat, disgusting and even evil and still get dick... men can be just not tall enough and die alone forever, so no, it is not the same. Only leverage men have is when women get old enough and still want babies, so they get the first average idiot they can to use them for that. But it is not true love and the guy is just being made a slave for a kid for 18 years (that may as well not be his anyway…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:01 AM
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Women are also not seen as a threat for just being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:59 AM
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I think most women would admit they are dismissive of men's dating struggles. I think men are dismissive of women's struggles as well, the empathy gap cuts both ways. Women's dating struggles are usually self-imposed by being too picky, so they don't deserve much empathy. It is like comparing sympathy for someone with no money to sympathy to Bill Gates losing half his wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:59 AM
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If you observe carefully, women were never empathic of men in the history of humanity. They rather fucked the guys that killed their husband and sun 24 hours ago. No need for forced sex, they opened legs the instant the enemies came to the city. Women also don't have much empathy for other women. Women only have very deep empathy for their children when they are young, if they did not kill them before they were born. Women today can be more open about it, but they do still gaslight men with love…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:57 AM
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Good point. If rejection is fast, then a lot of time and expectations are saved. Personally I don't think I can approach, not because I don't have desire, but because it feel like begging and demeaning. If I have to approach for something else, such as telling she her phone was left behind, I do, but for love and stuff like that it feels like begging and not very comfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:55 AM
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In bars often women talk to guys for them to buy them drinks and then they go with their friends. Don't. Sometimes women also expect help from men just for having a vagina. Men shall not help them anymore. It is not about revenge or anything, but if they don't want to interact with the other gender for one thing, then they shall not expect the other gender to keep treating them as princesses \.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:45 AM
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As a man, the best I can do is give back the least to society and women. I think it is fair to treat women exactly as they treat men, for example: Female coworker expects me to accompany her to the parking at night. I don't. Woman has a flat tire. I don't care. Women initiate nice conversation with me. I say "Ok" and go my way, let it die. See women struggling with all the baggage they don't need to bring to work but bring anyway. IDC. I don't start conversations with them anymore. Women assume …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:42 AM
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WTF they probably have not got the note, PUA is dead. But yeah, old men usually don't have apps so they do stuff like that still as before internet. But to be fair, women do love approaches from men they do like, so men have a blind spot on that. Better reject them fast if you are not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:22 AM
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Sorry for your experience. Personally I never approach women, it feels demeaning and it feels like begging, humiliating. I rather die alone than be a begger.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:21 AM
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Is just saying a joke to a nice woman considered approaching? Even if you don't ask for phone number?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:20 AM
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White knights are so pathetic. No one fucks them so they don't want other men to fuck too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:19 AM
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Yeah, women often approach men to buy them drinks or help them fix their flat tire. Do, sweetie, I don't give free labor unless you are very hot and single. Go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:18 AM
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It's common but less common among younger generations it seems. It still happens though Maybe apps do that. I never approached a woman for that, but maybe some women did interpret small talk as such. I feel approaching women for that is like asking a favor, it feels demeaning. I would rather die alone, rotten in my apartment, that feel like I'm begging for love.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:17 AM
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You love sealioning, tho https://thebigsmoke.com/us/2016/12/29/harvard-study-finds-job-loss-number-one-reason-divorce/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:15 AM
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Did you feel uncomfortable, thrilled, disgusted, appreciated, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:14 AM
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Well, I don't count it unless it is obviously for romantic intentions. If the conversation is personal, or full of jokes, etc. But I guess some women even count a guy talking about how slow the line they trapped in is, is also counted as approaches by some women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:13 AM
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Cockblocking is not cool, and it affects birth rates of people who will be born to pay for you who probably never have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:11 AM
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I suspect it may be how each gender defines approaches. Maybe a random guy talking to them in the gas station line is counted for them as approaching, even if the guy is gay or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:10 AM
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It goes both ways, tho. The women who usually oppose or openly question the women we date are usually moms, sisters, etc. because they know how untrustworthy, calculating and classist women truly are. Using your logic, women are the most misogynistic ever. Not to mention they love to slutshame.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:08 AM
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Yeah I get your point perfectly. Sometimes while in line I may initiate a conversation (not anymore) about how slow the service is, but you can look in her eyes she believers I'm trying to approach her or some shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:06 AM
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I get this. Sometimes girls look me scared if I just ask them to get out of the way kindly. Even ugly fat girls that cause me ED act as if I was trying to ask them out, while in fact I just want them to move away my path. Apparently me initiating a conversation in a line about how slow is the service, is considered approaching? WTF?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:03 AM
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Yeah, the numbers game. They use approaching as a way to make confidence instead honest dating. I don't think it is bad if if boosts her ego, tho, but maybe I'm wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:01 AM
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Very sad you hate it. My autie stillloves it men approaching her still in her 60s, for some reason LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:00 AM
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Do you count invitations to dance? I mean, they seem like a good reason to approach a woman, but only in a very narrow environment. I do remember a girl trying to dance with me in the club, only because that environment is more open to that, but not because there was any genuine interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 06:47 PM
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Now a lot of them do it in good faith, and it doesn’t bother me. However when it is done in an inappropriate way I find it to be very offensive. That is a reasonable expectation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 06:44 PM
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I do believe it has a lot to do with the face some women put, because so many women online swear they have almost never been approached, even being thin, while others claim they are approached every day. It is odd, and I don't think women are lying because they have no reason to lie about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 06:43 PM
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Personally, I think most approaches today are soft approaches, like to women they know, invite her to a coffee, or stuff like that instead coming from nowhere and directly asking for her phone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 06:40 PM
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Don't forget Constantinople! Christedom willl raise again.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 06:38 PM
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Most common reason women leave men is that he loses his job, for example. Women also rarely date or marry men that earn less than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 06:37 PM
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The grandmasters, the fountains of knowledge within incel communities, are divorced dudes. I think you are mixing MGTOWs with incels. MGTOWs are more divorced dads and men who had experience with relationships, incels are more about hating women without even meeting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 06:36 PM
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I feel most women don’t care about us, only what we can provide. I think women only can truly care about their children, if they don't abort them before, of course. Their friendships are many, but they are not deep. Their hobbies are shallow. Their love for men is conditional. Maybe I'm wrong, I hope that is the case, but I think love is more a male thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 06:33 PM
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In countries like China or Singapore, discussing sex between men is very common. As a foreigner , Chinese guys often recommend herbs to take to go "5 times in a night". Or in Vietnam, its common for men to eat snakes so they believe that solves erectile dysfunction. Interesting cultural issue, thank you for sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 06:26 PM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 03:35 AM
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Men here are special, so are women here. They are usually resentful or frustrated about dating. In real life, however, it is clear women focus too much in social, romantic and sexual relationships. Men seem to focus on that too but compartize it and have other hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 03:35 AM
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You can say that for jobs, though. If there was no money to earn, no one would work. However, you can love your job too. Same with men and women. On women, they would never date men who don't have a good job or future. Women are very classist and have always been. Today, we could live with public transport spending less oil, but men can get a car just to not look poor to women. Yeah, women cause global warming, but that is another issue... they can also learn to love men after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 03:31 AM
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Parents want the best for their children, so obviously they will generalize and create belief systems to prevent you issues. The problem is that if you take those tips too seriously, you probably will also lose al ot of great opportunities. This applies to both men and women. Women, usually single moms, are the factories of incels today, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 03:28 AM
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wat, I'm making a point!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 11:57 PM
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Seems another lie, like those moms say to their sons about what women like "a good guy that is romantic" or "a guy that never gets mad", etc. Later men find women dating likeral criminals and jonkies. No wonder why dating is shit now for so many people. Looks like a lie from dads, same as those moms say to their sons about what women like "a good guy that is romantic" or "a guy that never gets mad", etc. Later men find women dating literal criminals, divorced dads, and junkies. No wonder why dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 11:56 PM
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Seems another lie, like those moms say to their sons about what women like "a good guy that is romantic" or "a guy that never gets mad", etc. Later men find women dating literal criminals and junkies. No wonder why dating is shit now for so many people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 11:55 PM
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I never said women talk only about men, but a lot of things they love a lot also happen to attract male attention. It is as if men only talked about gym and diet... sure, some do, but mostly not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 11:53 PM
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This, but it has a wo-wo tone you may not like.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 11:05 PM
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Feel how? I have been practicing letting go and my life has improved a lot. We expect states and ways and chances that are so rare, to allow ourselves to be happy, forgetting we can allow that at any point for any reason. It does require practice and discipline, but I can make it work.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 03:43 AM
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My point is that this society often loves categories, and discrete labels, so a lot of people in between are left behind. Dating apps just made it worse, but you having to use an extreme example to make a point also proves how fucked up it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 02:30 AM
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What about a 5'11.999999 man? Is he all of a sudden low value? He is filtered by most values, so yes, he is low value by just that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 02:23 AM
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I disagree, not because what you say is wrong, but because at the end it is just ourselves. We allow ourselves to feel great when someone listens. We allow ourselves to feel terrible when no one is there in our worse. We allow ourselves to limit our happiness to being with someone. Now, the easiest way to get that support is by projecting that on someone else, but at the end there is no magic being transmitted... at the end it is you supporting yourself!\ Do you know what is the irony of ironies…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 02:22 AM
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Those relationships are unhappy and lookwarm. Those women would break them to go back to those guys, or cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 02:39 AM
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women are most honest on the dating app filters. Exactly, their true face.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 01:28 AM
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he average guy has no shot with the women most of those .1% men are going for. Those women don't need more than on night or sucking a dick of one of those guys to never look back and desire guys at her level. Even if those top guys treat her like trash, she will not look back. Meanwhile average guys never have chance with top 1% of women so they don't even try. As you can see, top men not only take most women, but also damage them for everyone else, which is what women moan about when they cry a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 01:20 AM
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I'd argue more so for single women since most activities for adult women are kid centered (Mommy and Me classes, Mops, etc.) That is a good point, I did not consider that perspective from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 12:27 AM
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Well, in a sense they would be right I have no friends and I'm socially a loser. But at the end, it makes not much sense to spend in a restaurant if you are not having a social experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 12:26 AM
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As a single guy pushing 30, I have realized that there is pretty much nowhere I can go, free of charge, to just 'hangout,' and it not be awkward, unless I just want to read a book at the library. Public/social life is designed for couples, families, and women. That is why everyone of my attempts to "put myself out there" and "touch grass" have left me feeling even more lonely and isolated than before. I agree with this, but in a sense I would expect that like 50% of that is in your mind, at leas…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 12:24 AM
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No, I get your point, on one side I guess two incomes is great, but at the same time if you are alone as a man it is unlikely you will have to spend in shit like expensive gifts or restaurants. So I guess it all balances out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 12:22 AM
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Half the time, that price is zero, just opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 12:01 PM
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No, just as women's lifestyle and comfort and survival rates in birth would not be the same without men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 12:00 PM
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he himself has said that while being single would save him money , he wouldn’t have been as happy People say all shit about what they suppose they would do or be if they were not what they are now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 11:57 AM
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My coupled up friends are is much better financial positions than my single friends. Still you may earn way less but if it is enough for yourself, you have extra money. Probably because selection bias and the fact companies and army often pay more to married men. You can save a lot of money with a partner if you both spend their fair share, but often married men have to pay way more.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 11:56 AM
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You can argue being more picky makes you even more visual and superficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 11:54 AM
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Yeah, my post was not well worded, sorry. I'm talking about men who are not getting any dates. Some of them have no social life, others do but not much success with women, etc. In any case, I'm arguing men with limited experience in dating usually screw any options they may get.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:04 AM
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You said this type of men are social yet simultaneously autistic ? I'm not trying to talk about a specific type of man, but rather men that don't get many dates or female attention. This may be for a wide range of reasons, but usually those men also frustrate their options for the reasons I explained.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:57 PM
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Women usually don't tolerate men with emotional baggage. Now, they do tolerate them if they have legal baggage or sometimes even children, but not emotional baggage. Women despise those men. Men, however, don't have many options to be picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:55 PM
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There’s a world of difference between a single mom and a woman who hasn’t met the one yet. Agreed, not the same thing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:54 PM
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Yeah, it is crab mentality and it is disgusting and evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:53 PM
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100%, no point in sexual frustration by choice lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:49 PM
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Exactly. Non-fappers attribute magical things to non-fapping, which is very stupid because even men who have plenty of sex fap and watch porn. The funnier thing is when women use ED as an argument. B*tch, if my dick is not being used with a woman, why would I care if it works or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:48 PM
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I think this is kind of the reason why average women complain they are not being asked out as much as better looking women. If a man gonna risk shame anyway, why not risk it in the best shot? Otherwise we have porn to compensate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 12:01 AM
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Since women don't really have any leverage except sexual, they usually use shame tactics to manipulate the dating market. The irony is that the women that do that makes the market worse, but they damage themselves way more as insufferable. Unhappy older single women would rather make everyone else unhappy, even if that implies them being unhappy. Basically envy for younger women and resentment for normal, average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:58 PM
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I would rather like those screenshot to know if my future girlfriend was one of those girls. Definitely not marriage material if that is the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:56 PM
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It is also good to know the kind of women fucking these men, and know if your gf was there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:55 PM
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Kids are not the only issue. Her ex's calling back after years, her baggage and trauma because the guy that fucked her and leaved, her abortions, etc. But yes, if she does not have kids she is still very valuable for many men, though, even if she was in a porn film. So if a woman don't have kids she still is in a good position even if she was very promiscous.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:53 PM
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The problem is not that they had fun being young, but the consequences of that fun. Dealing with exes calling back, children from other men, probably trauma from the guy that used to beat her, etc. Plenty of men are horny enough to marry trashy women, tho, so don't worry, women never truly loss in this dating market. They just hate they did not get the best guy they fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:51 PM
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Sure, I'd love to see your stats of how poverty, and not a lack of influence from a paternity figure, affects those children and how the studies isolate those variables.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:48 PM
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IDK, I don't see children of rich divorced people are better than anyone psychologically. But hey, that is what I see, you may as well be right.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:12 PM
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Good for your experience, but most statistics prove that many children being raised by single moms don't grow up psychologically healthy. If we can prevent a less than ideal life for the kid, we should.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:11 PM
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Yeah, but it is increasinly less acceptable, and if you go to bars and clubs, usually people there are also looking for ONS rather than relationships. Most spaces for people to meet organically are now basically dead or not welcoming on men approaching women. So men choose porn and women choose to stay single until they are too old to make a family. Not ideal for anyone, but at least they are (usually) not killing themselves for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:07 PM
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Two things: envy and prejudice. They assume non-traditional relationships can exist as well as the traditional, but heterosexual relationships are traditional to the core because of the implications they have. Observe that people with non-traditional heterosexual monogamous relationships are just changing names for traditional things and replacing rituals to equivalents. They forget that the very thing of a romantic relationship is by itself traditional because you don't need it anymore to have …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:02 PM
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You are right, sadly that cannot be legislated, but at least law shall not make artificial insemination legal for single women. It inevitably affects another human being, the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 10:50 PM
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Well, I understand women have a blind spot on this. The problem is that decent guys are probably already in relationships and you don't know the intention of a guy until way later, I can understand that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:55 PM
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I suspect that trend has been broken by dating apps. There are a lot of social and dating changes that we are not seeing and we just see pre-internet couples now so we assume all is fine. I hope you are right, tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:53 PM
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That is a good question. I think it has a lot to do with apps. Women may find men attractive by personality or so in real life, but if they are using only apps or mostly apps, the only immediate criteria women have is the looks. They also have almost infinite options and guys are very thirsty, so they match those guys they like by looks alone, which are also the guys other women like so they are not going to commit. So I don't blame women, they are choosing the best in the limited context of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:49 PM
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Do they? Average men often report zero matches in apps. Clearly women are not competing for a man a few point bellow them, but actually the top of the top. The thing is that those men can also fuck those women perpetually with no commitment, damaging the market for every other man that may want commitment and non traumatized women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:46 PM
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If yo usee carefully, most deadbeat dads already have plenty of red flags and those kids are not born in marriage or any committed relationship. She just married in her mind and supposed the guy would stay forever, even if the guy never promised that. Some good start is this: Check if he has kids. You can use social media, know his family, friends, etc. even public records. Wait. Don't fuck a guy a few weeks after meeting him without birth control. Don't assume that if you get pregnant and have …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:44 PM
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Not just saying "hi" but if that makes you feel better to believe that, so be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:41 PM
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That is good, economically speaking, but not having a father figure can also be bad and it is not ideal. Sure, some single motherhood happens and cannot be avoided, but intentionally seeking it seems to affect the kid too by something that can be easily avoided. That is just my criticism, but I agree her intention is not evil, I just find it very selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:40 PM
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Also yeah like I'm bipolar and have a history of severe ocd that was even worse and ADHD and GAD and autism and all that shit but like, have you ever heard the song, "life is beautiful"? By Sixx:A.M. we see the beauty in life and love it more after knowing the ugliness of it. Maybe being poly is your way to cope? I'm not judging, if that makes you happy, go one, but please be careful. Intimacy and sex are very risky and have their own attachments. I hope you are happy (I suppose you already are)…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:38 PM
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Exactly. They play dumb, but they aren't. If they are having sex with men that way it is very unlikely they are not already on birth control. If they are not using birth control it is probably by choice. Very nasty.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:36 PM
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What men are these women looking for? Probably a man that looks better than the boyfriends their friends have. Like a competition. Guys are also to blame, they play the fields hurting the options to other men and breaking the hearts of those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:35 PM
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This is key. Men find average women as attractive, even underaverage women may be attractive in some context too. Women don't consider average men as options.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:34 PM
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They are invisible to you. You don't even consider them men, you probably see them as creepy teens that got old.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:32 PM
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Totally
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:29 PM
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They are not happy. I know them, they are like on 5 different antidepressants and anti-anxiety drugs, and also treatment for Hep B. I hope you are doing fine, I'm not saying you are like that, but be careful because those groups only care about your body and masturbating with each others bodies, not about love or friendship. Usually attractive people have leverage (same that makes them successful in normal dating) so they are taken out of the poly market... unless the guy want to fuck other wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:28 PM
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LOOOOOOOL, Autistic men are the biggest whiners ever, they literally go on killing sprees because women find them weird and won't fuck them. Very sad you are using the incel phenomenon for hating autistic men. There are also autistic women, they just don't have the same dating issues men have. Perhaps you should blame the father who abandoned them to a life of poverty and struggle? You need two to make a baby. If you want to infantilize women as unable to vet, ask for commitment, know the guy's …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:25 PM
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That is vetting for. If she is having sex with a guy and she does not know his family yet, his friends, his social media, etc. she is playing a dangerous game. If she gets pregnant with a guy she barely knows, with no commitment, she is being irresponsible. Women are not idiots. Women actually vet guys, but I observed they make the exception when the guy is very hot, so then they get mad when the guy is not the imaginary man they had in their minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:23 PM
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For most of those men, porn is just easier. Not satisfying long term, sure, but honestly the best gift those men will ever get. I'm glad porn exist, even if it frustrates options, because at the end the effort may not even be worth it anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:20 PM
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It has become way worse for men, tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:18 PM
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I'm polyamorous Good for you, but almost all poly people I know look like these. Usually nerds or mentally ill people masturbating with each other. It is very disheartening only way some people can have sex is joining those mentally ill groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:18 PM
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You can be perfectly healthy and do all that is right and the other person fucks it up anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:13 PM
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Love seems increasingly to be like an abstraction on a list of requirements that now "obviously" are needed for a relationship. Romantic love is not like love for children, it is very conditional and flaky.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:12 PM
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Women have issues in dating, but no, they don't have it harder than men or even as equally hard. Women's dating life is on tutorial mode. Only thing woman have to do to get dick is an app, and just vet after that to get a relationships with more or less a decent guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:11 PM
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It is true many men hide they had children, but if you stay with the guy for a while it becomes obvious he does. Knowing his friends, family, and social media is a good start. However, she decides to get impregnated by a ONS, then she is ignoring the red flags that would be evident if she vetted.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:08 PM
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That is why commitment is so important. Women have made divorce a hell for men, so why not use the leverage there to make the man legally pay if he leaves? I know the answer: They just want dick, baby trap he guy. Obviously it backfires and now the kid is the one suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:07 PM
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Yes, Plenty of foster kids had parents that died or lost their mind and they cannot be socialized in a family, so the system is the best for them. Now, what does this have anything to do with single moms and deadbeat fathers?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:06 PM
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She can go to therapy, that is a starter. Plenty of people have all kind of issues, sometimes congenital such as autism, and yet they take responsibility for that. You can blame her parent for giving her daddy issues, but that will not fix her. These single moms are basically factories of incels and criminals.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:03 PM
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Sure, and women fuck them anyway, having like 50 options for birth control more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:02 PM
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Not only that, but the guy probably already has kids somewhere and she knows and yet she fucks him anyway. Does she really think the guy will prefer her and her kids over his kids elsewhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:01 PM
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Sure, women have no agency so ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:00 PM
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Daddy issues is a real thing you have to deal with going to therapy. So it may not be her fault, but it is her responsibility. Women DO hate any responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:59 PM
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I'm not agreeing with women, but they do have a point a lot of beta males are very resentful.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:58 PM
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Better responsibility for her would have been to use birth control. Plnety of single moms only raise the kids on paper, they let the grandpa do the job.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:56 PM
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I have no idea why you think it's acceptable to blame a woman because the man is a piece of a shit. Because she chooses that piece of shit, often tries to use a baby to babytrap him knowing he has kids with other women, etc. Then the kid is born and she uses the kid as revenge, separating him from the father, which is a piece of shit but has rights too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:55 PM
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Because women have more choice and sexual leverage than men, they can choose men that commit, that don't have children with other women, etc. Same accountability of not locking your house or car... it is not your fault it was stolen, but it is still your responsibility to lock the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:54 PM
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at least avoiding men who already have children they aren't taking care of would be a start. Exactly. Most single mothers have children from different dads, and those dads have children from different women. It is all just a mess of step-siblings. Obviously if a man already has children, he will probably not be there most of the time with you. He has other children to care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:52 PM
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Society has been very harsh to dads that abandon children, even in pre-modern times and religious governments. The issue is that society tries to sell single moms as just something that is OK, but it isn't. It is terrible, a burden to the mother, a burden to the child and a burden to the state. Most Single moms have these patterns: They fuck men that already have other children. Obviously the man will pick another family and not be able to be there. Single mothers often have sex without any guar…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:51 PM
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Single mother by choice is basically choosing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:48 PM
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Yeah, I cam empathize with lots of single moms, but that situation is not ideal for the child. It is not moral to "choose" single motherhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:47 PM
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I agree this does not guarantee that having two parents will always be good, but preventing single parenthood is a step ahead because the fact one parent means less redundancy for the security of the kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:32 PM
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Adopting foster kids is different from adopting babies. Forster kids will never see you as parents or establish solid bonds. However, in America most foster kids that are not adopted usually have psychopathic tendencies or crime. Imagine caring for a kid an the find he burned down his bed. It is not easy, and I appreciate parents that do that, but clearly those kids are lost and it is better if they are raised by the system.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:29 PM
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No one is entitled or have any right to be a parent, though. Just because a woman have baby fever and takes this extremely selfish decision that obviously affects the kid, it does not mean the government shall make it easy for her to do that to an innocent human being. Many kids will raise in situations that are less than ideal, but there is no reason to make it easier for those situations to be. BTW, I don't get what is conservative about the fact fathers are important to raise a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:27 PM
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Agreed ONS cannot realistically be legislated, but any other method that may allow voluntary single motherhood shall be banned for those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:24 PM
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Agreed, it is hard to legislate ONS, but other methods that require donators should not be available given the consequences for the kid down the line. Havnig a kid is also not a right to satisfy your parenting desires. Men don't have that right to have children. Why should women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:23 PM
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You said banned in most places. What happened? You googled and found out that it's perfectly legal? Children are adopted out of foster care extremely often by single parents. If Adoption is already hard for couples, for single people is is basically banned. America has more people willing to adopt than orphans, that is why some people adopt in foreign countries ,which is also questionable because the kid is being separated from their culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:21 PM
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This assumes that only thing the kid needs in financial support, but clearly a kid needs more than that... otherwise the kids of rich people would be always psychologically healthy. Circumstances can also change. Two incomes, two parents, etc. is redundancy for the security of the kid. Even if the father is not there because he leaft, as for many single moms, she still can sue him for child support or have other legal mechanisms for getting a second income. If voluntary single motherhood can be …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:16 PM
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This assumes that only thing the kid needs in financial support, but clearly a kid needs more than that... otherwise the kids of rich people would be always psychologically healthy. Circumstances can also change. Two incomes, two parents, etc. is redundancy for the security of the kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:14 PM
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I don't think we should restrict the personal choice of women (or that matter of fact, anyone) to become a mom, I understand your concern, and I agree women shall have freedom, but at the same time this affects another human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:12 PM
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It is possible, but it is hard and discouraged by agencies, probably because they fear the kid may be used for sexual abuse or exploitation. However, a kid is better adopted even by one good parent than by zero. Artificial insemination and conception can be avoided, though. It is not a ideal for a kid to be raised by one parent if that can be avoided by the kid not being born.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:10 PM
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The sad thing is that the kid is innocent, and probably courts will favor the kid even if she does something as selfish as this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:07 PM
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What you are telling me is that you don't really have a solution on a macro level. I never claimed I did. But preventing voluntary single motherhood is a good step to prevent more issues down the line. Bastards have always been an issue for all civilizations, and birth control helped a lot, but now that some women wan to voluntarily have bastards, this may as well become a public issue again.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:07 PM
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I agree the number of women who do this is way fewer than the men who step away, however consider the following: This is worse than stepping away because at least if the father steps away the kid still has some information about the father, the mother can sue for child support, etc. Cannot say the same on artificial insemination. This is likely to increase as women became pickier and pickier by internet, so they approach their fertility limit and may want to have a kid without considering the co…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:05 PM
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Funny thing... most jurisdictions don't allow single-parent adoption.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:03 PM
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It is kind of illegal, though. I think forced child support is a good compensation for that, even if it is unfair because the man cannot abort. But the government shall not make it easy for women to be single moms by allowing Artificial insemination from donors to women who are unmarried and single.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:01 PM
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What's your plan to handle women who get pregnant and intend to be single mothers? Good ideas for now: Make illegal artificial insemination for single women with no putative father. Fine women who hide from the father they had a kid with him. This is basically depriving the kid from a father, and the father from knowing the kid. Both are terrible and damaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:00 PM
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I don't think ONS can be legislated on that, I agree, but no artificial insemination for single women shall be a good initiative. Kids deserve to have a father, even if not biological, and being single mom by choice using that method is damaging for the kid. Hiding the fact a man has a kid, even knowing the man, shall also be punished somehow because that man is being deprived of the right to meet their kid and so is the kid being deprived of the right to meet the father.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 02:58 PM
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This post is not about that kind of men, though, but about women who actively know they will become single mothers knowing the consequences it has for the kid to grow fatherless. Sorry if I was not clear in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 02:56 PM
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For starting, not allowing artificial inseminations from donors to single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 02:54 PM
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Most would only care if it's indicative of a more serious, underlying psychological problem. If being promiscuous is totally normal, I don't get why you assume that may be a psychological problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 02:53 PM
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compared to the average man the average woman gets tons of sex, pretty privilege and many other advantages Sure, and they still have to take more antidepressants than any other demographic. They also use the most state-assisted suicide services. Imagine living in tutorial mode and finding a way to lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 02:52 PM
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I don't know what you are talking about. Maybe you did was trying to post answer to another question?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 02:50 PM
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After the pandemic almost all bars are full of groups of friends and couples. I rarely see anyone alone, though, and being alone there often look pathetic. Other social places such as churches may still be good to meet people, but often they are people that are older than average, and the congregations are also made of established families.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 02:47 PM
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I wonder how many of those stepdads lust their stepdaughters, I would not be surprised, but if I was evil that was a ver good strategy for good young pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:32 AM
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I believe it’s natural and normal for say 30 percent of men to never find a partner. And I believe those men can still make fulfilling lives for themselves. Agree they can live fulfilling lives, but unless women are open to share men and families are open to have sister wives, I think that also means a lot of women will not have the love life they always love to read about.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:23 AM
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The combination of these two could/will create a disaster for society as women make their strict mating selections and those men continue to have sex without personal restriant. What I find laughing is that those women still think they deserve a good man as husband. Why would a woman that open legs to hundreds of men be trusted with being a good mom and trustworthy? It makes no sense. But as old women do, they will just consume antidepressants to death to cope, and blame patriarchy or some shit …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:22 AM
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Sure, why should most men work and pay taxes if they are not getting any significant social connection or reinforcement from the system? Why are you entitled to male labor that keeps clean water running and electricity? Only thing saving us is automation, but even that is a limit. You see how labor participation of men is going down, and it is beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:21 AM
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I think men get mad when they are not picked, but they don't hate those women. The ideal woman is a woman that picks you and no one else. I guess the ideal man is also like that for most women. If you ask why men hate whores, ask yourself if you would prefer your daughter or little sister or some lady in your family to rather be a whore or picky. Most women, even feminist women, would not like daughters to have sex with countless men... even sex-positive feminists. Imagine a mother telling her d…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:19 AM
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You are right on that, but to be fair I don't think average women want to date average men in any way. Since women have apps they don't really even know how average men look like. They are basically riding community dick if they are having sex or dating at all. Fun, but those men don't really have any reason to commit to you. Not saying that is wrong, but if they want a family and husband and so, I don't think there are enough top 10% men as those they pick in apps to make a family. I'm not blam…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:14 AM
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As typical, (usually women) making it about me because there is no argument. I'm not even heterosexual, I just feel the pain of heterosexual bros.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:10 AM
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Agreed. 10 years ago I would rather admire it, but after all that happened these last years, I'm glad men are not joining that death cult of the army.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:09 AM
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Do you think women after 16 shall have sex with half high school? I mean, if it is so good and it causes no issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:08 AM
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Exactly. I also doubt they would love their daughters to be whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:07 AM
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women “ruin” themselves with casual sex Hook up culture has been proven to be damaging to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:07 AM
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I'm sure women would love to have a high body count daughter. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:06 AM
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Are you trying to justify someone hating and treating cruelly a whole group of people (promiscuous women) simply because they haven’t had the best life? Promiscuity is a choice. Autism isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:05 AM
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This logic makes no sense. By this logic men would rather hate women who are way more picky than whores. Whores are the most likely to have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:04 AM
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Well, those men having sex with those women are not marrying them either, though. No one wants to marry a "party girl".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:03 AM
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Because it is not jealously, but rather the attitude of a lot of those women. Whores have always existed, but no, they are not like other women yet they sell themselves as healthy marriageable women (they aren't). These women get "restored" and now believe they are marriage material. The arrogance and the belief that some idiot has to "step up and be brave" to raise their bastards.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:02 AM
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It is always interesting to read about kids committing suicide because other students found pics of their whore mother online. Opening legs for women is not a talent, and no, no one will be the new daddy of your bastards.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 02:59 AM
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Imagine fighting and dying for this degenerate bloated corpse of disgusting degenerate country that does not guarantee you anything but still expect you to die for Ukraine or a new shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 02:56 AM
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instead of just socializing with women outside in the real world There is no social space to meet women anymore unless you already are dating or you have deep social connections, tho. It is not their fault to be autistic or not being grown in a high density area that would have helped them make friends. It was at least my case, so I don't blame women, but please don't blame these men either.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 02:54 AM
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I don't think those men envy women, they resent women. It is not the same thing. They probably love being men, they just don't like how women are to them. They also resent that women live in tutorial mode in the West, and still find reasons to scream about how oppressive men are or how all men are pigs. If you are the bottom of the barrel, heck, even the middle of the barrel, as a man you have to put ALL effort and you find that very unfair. In the past there were mechanisms of compensation, tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 02:50 AM
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Personally, I hate the fact I love people's company and they make me happy, yet I cannot get anyone, so that makes me hate people. Now I love and hate people at the same time, which creates huge cognitive dissonance. I do need to find a way to find happiness inside somehow. It seems most people choose drugs and become addicts, I want to try it the natural way or just end it all in peace if I fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 12:27 AM
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There’s lots of women who would value an average guy. Only as a second options after fucking best men, and having "trauma".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 12:21 AM
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The "mentally well-adjusted" and "good social skills" parts will take years to gain that experience and knowledge. For some people, it'll take a life-time. Yeah, at some point it is not worth it, usually for friendless lonely men after 30s like me. I choose now to invest in trying to find subjective happiness instead changing stuff that will take long hours of frustration and is not guaranteed to work anywya. Now I get why people use drugs, they are truly great.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 12:20 AM
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It not it easier to just use crystals to attract the person you want as women do?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 12:18 AM
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I don't like your comment but it is gospel truth. Maybe I just don't like reality. Gnostic Christians were right, this reality is demonic, pure evil grinder hungry for suffering human flesh.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 12:16 AM
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Pity relationships and narcissistic women dating men for media attention is not new.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 12:13 AM
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I never claimed it makes you be lesser, but truth is that women want basically to be treated as children in this aspect. They don't want to plan things, do stuff. Even deciding what restaurant to go is such a tiredsome task.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 12:11 AM
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Modern Christians are damn near more sinful than non-religious people these days lol. Delete 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 10:16 PM
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It is most likely than not that in your work you are submissive to a boss, big customer, etc. My point is that that does not make you any less valuable or less human. Women claim they want an equal, but if you look careful they do want a man that leads, puts stuff in place and is not a push over, even for what she says. That is why nice guys lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 10:15 PM
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As someone said, it is most about indifference rather than disdain. Men have to adapt to the facts and stop assuming women are angels.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 10:13 PM
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Men, for example hate selfish bitter women. As they should. But yes, being disabled and autistic is different from choosing a bitter personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:20 PM
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Not hate, just fun to watch how women expect men to fix each other as if we had any incentive to do that LOL. Try not opening your legs so often to the same few men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:19 PM
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Most non-Christians have shitty lives, so you would have to fix that first. Maybe it can be a positive experience for you to leave weed, find a job, etc. to be worthy of a good Christian girl after all, but most likely you are too lazy for that or too dumb to keep the facade. That is why there are more girls there than boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:15 PM
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Do you see your children as inferior?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:12 PM
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Simping for all women, or hardening your heart to women's humanity, are both approaches that are not conducive to happiness. I'm sure plenty of men are way happier hating women than rejected them than just being rejected and eating it up. In a sense, they are totally in their right to do this. If life is unfair and makes me unhappy, why would I want anyone else to be happy? If they have nothing to lose, that may be the best strategy. Woman have a flat tire? Just laugh and walk away. Woman is att…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:11 PM
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You do have a great point, but I don't think most men live desperate lives for sex or women. Men have more diverse hobbies, jobs and projects than women, and that is also a use of libido. But yes, nothing gives men anything easy in this world, but the diversity of activities and ways men have open them to find their niche and be great in their own space. I guess that is what women call "male privilege".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:07 PM
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But it's utterly absurd for a man to think there is anything positive about dating as a woman. So don't date? Still most women date even when they swear they are fighting for their lives and against all fears. They must like dick a lot to do such a brave thing... or rather they are lying... nevermind
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:03 PM
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Not my problem
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:01 PM
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That is OK, but everyone is different. I'm sure that plenty of people find their compatible one in their 20s or earlier. Sure, later that may change and they may divorce, but to be fair that happens at any age.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 11:42 AM
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Wholesome :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 11:39 AM
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I don't think that has anything to do, though, because they may have kids without marriage anyway. I'm sure most single moms were probably never married anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:37 AM
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I think it depends on the priorities of the guy and the woman they choose. If the wife is mental, marriage can be hellish. Men who divorce usually get married later to a woman with a totally different personality from the first one. So men recognize the issue is not marriage but who do they marry. So yes, marriage can be very positive and I have no doubt it is for most men, but at the end it is also a risk and some men don't want to take it, and that is OK too for those who want to take it. Stil…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:36 AM
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Same, I'm 31 now so too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:32 AM
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Usually men at that age that never married had greater issues that did not make them attractive to women, so there is a bias. Women, for example, hate disabled and autistic men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:32 AM
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Plenty of people get married or at least get into long-term relationships. So yes, people find value in such arrangements even today. I do think marriage is risky, though, especially for men. If there is a reason to avoid marriage is probably the legal consequences it may have, especially for men. So I do agree with you on that. In the past, marriage gave the husband too much power over the woman so it was a risk for her. Today I think laws are good enough and women know to find red flags, so th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:27 AM
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Yeah, and the thing is that she exploits that attention to her benefit without being selfish or nasty to those men. She also dresses great, which helps a lot. But I think the most important is, ironically, personality. Bluepillers are right on that, but I think personality is way more important on women than men. On men it is more important the PROOF they can produce or have something of value.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:17 AM
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Yet most people would benefit a lot by marriage. Sharing goals, the security of having two incomes, a special person to travel, etc. It seems marriage is being described as something that is not... an obstacle. It is only an obstacle if your goals are extremely individualistic, but I'm sure most people don't want to be alone in the top. Not to mention that plenty of people find themselves working for years to die alone, not finding love or living personal life... or too late to have children. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:12 AM
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Sad thing is that they probably still scam a poor beta late in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:50 PM
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If half admit it imagine what they don't admit for slut shaming. It may be well over 80%.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:49 PM
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Yes, feminity is very important, and I agree. You also point out that you look for signs of genuine romantic interest, some women don't do that, they just think about the interest they have for the guy. My auntie is in her deep 70s and she still gets compliments from men, even security guards offer to accompany her to the car for her safety. I do not see that in other women her age... she just charms men even at an advanced old age. The reason? My auntie is very funny, feminine, and agreeable. M…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:44 PM
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Sure, but divorce is not that bad when you are younger. You still have options being young, probably not many kids, youth, etc. I would prefer my marriage to fail early than late in life after marrying first time in my 40s. At that point the last hope was invested in that last marriage, it is sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:33 PM
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I think it is up to the female strategy. You probably pick wisely, other women just pick the best of the best and don't think about how it is too good to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:32 PM
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That is only your own rationalization for not dating those uglier men, who are probably in your level anyway. Truth is that best men that commit are already taken. Try dating in your own league next time and not just for dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:31 PM
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If a woman faces a lot of issues with pump and dump, the problem is her and entirely her. Imagine having full control of sexual market, as most women today, and still finding a way to lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:30 PM
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All attractive men that wanted to commit are already taken. So yes, logically the best looking men are too good to be true if you are just another average chick (although most women will never accept that, so they keep sucking dick as a bee sucking flowers).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:29 PM
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Yes but its no better dating unattractive guys because they WANT to be able to sleep with multiple women but CANT. So let me see... you are judging people for what they WOULD do instead of what they do, in your imagination, to justify your own promiscuous terrible decisions. There are plenty of good-looking men that are good, they are just taken. Keep fucking the same guys, then the few guys left are the guys that will NEVER commit to you. So women who suffer this deserve this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:27 PM
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Many women believe they are the exception. So many Women are arrogant and full of themselves; they cannot see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:26 PM
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Only men that do that are men with abundance of options. If women did not choose the same top 10% men and did not open the legs first day, then this would not happen to them. Since women control sexual market, this is their responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:25 PM
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I don't fully blame them, I mean the terms are a mess and the confusion is high in the age of mass media, but a lot of the "hypocrisy" they find in those groups results from them just comparing those groups to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:54 AM
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I find it ironic women feel the most attracted to me when I don't care shit about them. It is quite disheartening to see how the orbiters they have are ignored for just a guy that treats them as menaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:51 AM
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Your post is mixing conservatism with traditionalism and I observe you are also describing libertarians. You are basically pointing contradictions among those groups rather than the same imaginary group you have in your mind. The red pill does not have any agenda. It is a set of tools that can be used for good or for evil. Conservatives see unmarried old men as either closeted homosexuals(nothing wrong with that) or infertiles. Not only conservatives. I observe that liberals have a lot of views …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:47 AM
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Ever stopped to think that maybe the women fucking criminals aren’t the ones making those claims? The sole fact that women cannot admit that sexual attraction has nothing to do with all the bullshit they claim to want in man is enough to expose their dishonesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:45 AM
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Stop constantly going "WOMEN WERE GONNA DO IT! W-W-WERE GOING TO GO ABROAD IF YOU DONT CHANGE YOUR WAYS... ANY DAY NOW! ANY...DAY... pls just change so i dont have to go abroad!" Ironic because that topic is almost always brought by women, just as age gaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:44 AM
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A woman that don't want to admit she is very inmature to choose good men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 01:21 PM
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Women will blame anything they don't like on men not finding love, and then fuck a literal criminal violent man that does not care about them. If this was true, liberal blue pilled men would be fought over by women. The case is the opposite, those men are seen as autistic, creepy and "feminist men" is now a bad word even for feminists. Stop the bullshit, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 01:21 PM
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For example I need to cheat because I'm insecure about my height. My wife totally understands. BASED using women's excuses for cheating, of insecurity and inadequacy on your own favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 01:18 PM
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Being short is a curse for a man Short women shall use artificial insemination to avoid spreading their cursed DNA to future men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 01:17 PM
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Curiously, anyone on one of those extremes would choose the other. I do believe people don't realize how damaging autism is for any social interaction. I find women calling autism as "valid" and "just another way of being" as disgusting. No, it is a fucking disabling issue that decreases your life quality significantly and you have no control so ever on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 01:15 PM
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So then why don’t men maintain their friendships? First, it requires lots of time and men don't get much more from 10 friends than they get from 2. Second, men have way it harder to make friends. Other men also don't need many friends and being friends with women is usually not appropriate if they are partnered or if they are single emotions may raise. Third, general mental health of men is not really that bad as assumed. Men commit more suicide because they know what they are doing. Women attem…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 01:13 PM
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I"m sure women are way more resentful than men anyway (e.g. initiate more divorces, breakups), maybe talking about it can also go wrong and makes it worse (e.g. a friend that convinces her that the man is way worse than he really is).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 01:10 PM
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Cognitive dissonance is a mechanism where you will rationalize the negative outcome as being optimal (i.e. sour grapes). I never said it is optimal, I said it is what it is. Friendships, emotional bonds have a plethora of benefits and are the default social construct for the simian family. I never said those things are not important. The hermit lifestyle is an exception usually characterized by trauma or sacrifice not an ideal. I never said it was ideal, but it is way to deal with life as valid …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 10:45 PM
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Men who do that are usually gay, though. Nothing wrong with that, but usually men who do that stuff that is associated with women are more effeminate and not sexually attractive to women. Men have a more male way to interact with people and is as valid, but I do agree it is not as effective as that of women. Still, I believe men can handle loneliness better than women. The problem is when men expect to be treated as women (emotional stuff) or when women expect to be treated as men (respect, equa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 10:32 PM
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So you agree mental issues give you a pass to being irresponsible and dating dangerous men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 10:24 PM
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You can flip that. You clearly have 0 understanding of the psychology behind why are abusive in relationships. Why punish someone who clearly has mental issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 10:06 PM
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Yeah, mental health has a lot to do with it. Some people I knew have way more friends than me and yet they claim they don't have any. They are texted, invited to go out, picked up, etc. but still they feel lonely. NOT saying it is your case, but rather that loneliness is an emotion, a state of being. It sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 06:50 PM
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Most domestic abuse is a pattern. If it is a pattern, LEAVE the first time the guy beats you and sue the hell out of him. Did he abuse a woman in the past? LEAVE. Does he have felonies? LEAVE. Women who are killed by men in the house are usually not killed first time they are beaten, there is a pattern because the guy knows she will do nothing. What do these women rather do? Wait until he leaves jail and give him another bastard. Or cry to judge to release him. Make taxpayers pay for her bastard…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 06:49 PM
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I never claimed they did. It is women who feel entitled to male labor and use taxes and government to steal it from them while parasiting society.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 06:45 PM
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That is what I say. We often praise science for making us live longer, but honestly what is the point of living when you cannot even get out of your bed? It is so sad. In a sense, science make life longer but at the cost of a worse life late in life. The intention is good, but at the end it is just a population pyramid that no one will sustain.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 06:44 PM
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Family is another thing, I'm talking generally on dating issues and social interactions. Women are assumed to be safer so they have easy time being welcomed by both men and women. Men in relationships are regarded as safe. Only men left out are men who are single, since single women have it fine and can fuck men that are already with other women with no problem. I'm not saying this is good or bad, it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 06:43 PM
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What is the OP's complain according to you? OP is just describing that loneliness is presented and handled different by gender. Men have more to lose in this arrangement, but usually they have a deeper emotional skin to handle loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 06:41 PM
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That's true too, and cameras also require an infrastructure to be created and maintained, and I bet 80% of the production line for them is up to men. Not saying that we shall kiss feet of men, but almost all argument blaming men as a group ignore their contribution as a group. It is like trying to take one side of a coin but not the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 06:39 PM
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I agree it will not fix patterns in relationships and stuff such as autism, but that is not the point. Male friendship is around projects and common purposes. It is not around emotions, or talking about other people or going to a therapist. Those things can help some men, but men prefer to do it in utilitarian ways. The irony is that letting men do their things can also benefit society. They build, create, fix, etc. and help those around. Sadly, that would be seen today as toxic masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 06:38 PM
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I'm not worried about who will care for me, probably the child of someone poorer than me. I am worried there won't be social security that people are depending on and they won't even be able to afford the privilege of being shoved in a nursing home. I hate to say it, but probably voluntary suicide in our 60s or 70s will be encouraged even in ads. It already started in Canada, which also has a huge elder population and plus migrants, infrastructure is dying because it was not adjusted to higher p…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 04:54 PM
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98% of people have dates (and most of them marriage) before retirement age (most of them by their thirties though and 90% of them have had sex by 25, most of those by age 17). And a vast majority are currently sexually active (US). Those statistics are not very good. Men having sex like once a decade don't make them much different than a man that never had sex, and yet those men who had sex once are included in the 98%. Not to mention the dead bed's marriages and such.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 04:47 PM
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Women are struggle Oh no, let's pay them stuff, pay them mestruation leave, set gender quotas, hire them for just having a vagina... Men struggle Yup, life's unfair
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 04:45 PM
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Exactly. Have heard a lot of men finding peace with this statement. Even I used this statement to cope. But if you didn't had access to sex, which, in all probability meant you didn't had access to a lot of women, how can you think you have access to relationship. These kinda men are only second or even third choice for a lot of men. Beggars can't be choosers. Even if the aboce statement is true, that is valid only for a small amount of men thay women are after. That is what I say. I think, howe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 04:43 PM
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Sure. The social contral is the collective expectation of responsibilities and privileges for being a member of a society. It may be law, taboo, social customs, etc. So far, the West has an identity crisis. This is not the fault of feminism or men or women... the West had an identity of superiority and sophistication, but now that it is dying, they don't have any common way to identify with each other. Sadly, weakest members of society will suffer the most, not just women and children, but also …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 04:42 PM
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Getting married just to divorce some plumber for half their money sounds pretty sucky to me. Why go through all that trouble for someone who makes $50k/year? That is what most women do. Basically all incentives are to break relationships or marry for money to women. Women are very classist and I'm glad men are realizing it and not marrying. Too bad some laws consider you married for just living together. The most fair arrangement is co-habitation and help while both work and help each other as l…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 04:36 PM
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You were talking about how it shouldn't be men's responsiblity to protect women. I argued that it should be in an empathetic and civilized societies interest to protect others. Not all protection is with use of brute strength. Now grow up and stop the tit fot tat bullshit. Not everything you do is to get something in return. That has nothing to do with civilization. In fact, civilized societies have been very cruel to lower castes while tribes are more egalitarian. The liberal idea of equality a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 04:31 PM
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Sending billions to Ukraine while our own struggle don't seem like capitalism. Neither is government printing billions to keep the economy, but drying people's savings and properties. But let's support it is capitalism, for the sake of your argument. It does not suck for women. They still can marry a guy and divorce it and take half their shit if they did not contribute nothing. Women can also receive more help from the state for just getting pregnant or just existing. I'm glad men are NEETing, …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 04:27 PM
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I see the main issue is that this is relatively new. In the past, elders lived in extended family houses and had tasks to help the moms and so on. This is very irregular that we have such fixation for nuclear family, and it seems it is not changing... infact millennials prefer to live with parents or not marry at all rather than have an extended family that looks "poor". Only migrants do that so they are only ones able to afford shitty jobs and still have property. Very insane. Boomers complain …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 04:24 PM
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As a coworker it makes sense, but women claim to fear being killed or kidnapped by men, yet they still date. That suggests they see value in dating men, even worth overcoming that fear, and even for sexual and dating reasons. So yes, at the end it is about genitals LOL, we are in denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 04:21 PM
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Ain't nothing wrong with using medicine. Maybe more of y'all should try it. Overprescription is indeed a problem, from antibiotics, to plain killers that now are sold in the streets illegally, to antidepressants who almost all school shooters took. We are basically being drugged as our money become worthless, we cannot even buy a used car, all jobs, are shitty jobs, etc... but somehow being depressed is an illness, not a logical response to us living worse than our parents. Considering all the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 04:18 PM
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Yeah, these transition times are hellish. Eventually we will reach a good stable balance, but meanwhile, whole generations will die loveless, childless, and lonely in a nursing home that will probably treat us like trash. Especially for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 04:15 PM
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Okay so as someone pointed out already, the high suicide rates among men points more towards the fact that the strategy you described here isn't really working. Two things to consider: Women use the most antidepressants even having plenty of social support. Women attempt suicide the most. Women use assisted suicide the most. This suggests women are not doing any better even living in tutorial mode, which made me thing that men have a thicker emotional skin and therefore it makes sense they don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 04:09 PM
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Men usually see big social networks as high maintenance, though. They are OK with 2 or 3 friends, but I do agree that is a disadvantage because that friend may go away. However, having more friends than that don't really add anything to the guy, except losing time and resources. So I guess it is a very sensitive tradeoff. I find it interesting that women use government-assisted suicide programs the most. I also wonder why suicide is so stigmatized. Some people just want to die, and they shall ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 04:07 PM
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The most likely person to kill us is our husband or boyfriend. Which says a lot about women's choice. I'm not blaming migrants, though, I'm blaming politicians from brining people with incompatible western values.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 04:01 PM
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Women are kind to one another. Yes, I agree, but I think this also has a downside for women. Women often ask why do they value genuine non sexual male attention so much, but I think the reason is that female attention is too superficial. If women's attention was as valuable as that of men's, then most women would not looking for men's attention at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 04:01 PM
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I don't really enjoy most people's "support". It feels more like pity, which is emasculating This is the greatest problem. Women may not have issues with that, but men do. Men need empowering projects, plans, groups... build something, fix something. That heals men in literally an hour of true cooperative work with other men, and it last longer than any pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 03:58 PM
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Women rave about emotional availability but some (maybe a lot) of them don’t reward it. I’ve had a woman I dated use vulnerability I showed her against me. Aint that some shit. Men who have some female expectations of emotional support are fucked. Usually men raised by single moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 03:57 PM
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It’s an example of a gender coming from behind and actually showing it can achieve what the other gender did and more. They need a lot of help for that, not on their own merit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 03:56 PM
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What does male loneliness have to do with female academic achievement and success? Women are obsessed with that shit. They get like 50k in student debt and get a job in customer service and literally don't see a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 03:56 PM
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Women once did worse than men in school and now that has turned around and they’ve exceeded men in a few decades only. Most college today is a scam. Imagine getting 100k in debt and still finding a shitty job that don't even pay you retirement. I truly believe that if men worked together on this issue they could surpass women in being emotionally supportive and the less lonely gender. Not that it’s a race but I don’t think it’s inherent. Men don't need emotional support. Men need a good salary, …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 03:55 PM
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Yeah, this is important to consider. If you are not raised as a man, you don't probably have the tools to deal with being a man. I suppose transwomen have the same issue on other aspects.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 03:42 PM
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The bulk of attention women receive is from men who want sex from her; if she isn’t mutually interested that attention is worthless and isolates her further. I disagree. It may be true for male attention, but not attention overall. See any Instagram post of any woman. Any. Almost 80% of comments are other women praising her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 03:41 PM
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Yeah, this is the "male privilege" women love to talk about... men thriving, inventing things, making their own wealth, finding themselves way to get richer than their ex fast, etc. Women want that privilege but they hate the fact men have to live hell to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 03:40 PM
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This is just a list of cognitive dissonance regarding loneliness Care to explain? I already recognize men have it harder. I just explaining they don't have it even harder because they have other emotional priorities compared to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 03:39 PM
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Based on the comments I see in this sub, men absolutely need as much, if not more emotional support than women. Men and women who go here are not a typical sample of men and women. Based on the comments I see in this sub, men are not happy with isolation. No one is happy with isolation, but I'm arguing men can deal with it better while women rely on antidepressants even having plenty of friends. Isolation can also be therapeutic for some short time, especially for men. Based on comments in this …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 03:38 PM
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Because men commit the vast majority of physical and sexual assault and homicide as well as having an obvious huge physical advantage Women date those men and expect other men to defend them for their bad decisions. Most women that are victims of violence from men, are victims in the house. So men they choose... they even sign and cry to judges to release them. Women are safer than ever in history. If women took any responsibility, maybe they would be even safer. over most women and were the rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 03:34 PM
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Now do that by demographic groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 03:31 PM
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Men commit violence against women at huge rates. Maybe if women did not vote for laws to open borders or to import men from countries that don't care about women's rights, you would be even safer.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 03:31 PM
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Only reason bad men are a threat to women is because everything else is safe thanks to the infrastructure men invented, created and maintained. Not to mention women signing for releasing criminals and dating literal felons... literally not any man's problem or taxpayers to defend those women for their bad decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 03:29 PM
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It's everyone's responsibility to make society and their loved ones feel safe Sure, but an increasing number of men don't want to participate or contribute a society that don't help or assist them back. Men commit most crimes (funny, women also love supporting criminals), but men also keep most infrastructure and inventions and food that creates the safety bubble you get for granted. Only bad men are a threat to women because everything else is safe thanks to the infrastructure.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 03:26 PM
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Why would it be women’s responsibility to ensure men aren’t lonely? Ummm, no one is arguing for that? In fact women's company as friendship is detrimental for men. Women's company is vital for men in relationships, though, but in that sense also the woman consider his company essential and vital or at least necessary (resources, women are very materialistic).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 03:25 PM
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Yes, that is good that you are doing that, but most men don't want more friends. They don't see value in 100 friends if they already have 2 good ones. In fact, additional friends may drain his time and resources. Just because men have fewer friends it does not mean men do not value friendship. The disadvantage of this is, of course, is men lose those key friends they may be doomed to months of friendlessness. Guys can deal with that for a few months and years but eventually they have to find ano…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 03:23 PM
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I'd say both are valid, but whatever they both work as well as each other or not I cannot say. For example, men disappear after a fight or a disagreement and come back very happy. Married women also know it is better to leave him alone if he had a bad day. Meanwhile, if women have a bad day, they usually want to complain to someone or talk about it to let it go. Both ways are valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 03:21 PM
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That is why I say men do better considering all the shit they are forced to live through for even just deserving company. This suggests men have thicker skin in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 03:19 PM
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Women also use state-assisted euthanasia the most. I find it odd men and women act so different but at the end it adds to something similar. Very weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 03:18 PM
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Yeah, if men lose job the wife may lose respect, and if he gets sick and cannot work too. Meanwhile, women are loved for just existing. So considering all this hell, men are doing great. It is a miracle so many men even thrive today.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 03:17 PM
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Men's suicide rates would suggest that isolation doesn't work all that well. Women use the most antidepressants. That suggests that women have a narrow threshold than men, or rather men commit more suicide because they don't reach treatment. So the comparison is impossible because there are too many variables, how men reach mental health less and how women use antidepressants as vitamins.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 03:15 PM
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Women are basically treated like children by society and now by government. Women do feel this is "misogyny" because treating someone as a child is disempowering, but to be fair, most women do enjoy such privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 11:50 PM
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Women do feel lust for men but it is usually in short burst. For everything else, the interaction is mostly on emotional support, and the resources and assets the man provides. Women are very classist and as a class they exploit that privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 11:02 PM
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Seems like that woman is just a disgusting community fleshlight. I'm glad she is not happy but I'm mad she wants to bring everyone else down too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 10:58 PM
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I find interesting how women use the ugliest friends to do the nasty job just to keep their image and argue it as something positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 10:57 PM
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I think men can learn from older women this: Rely on psychiatric drugs for some happiness. Have a job, hold your own resources, etc. and don't marry or at least keep assets separated. Men get less horny as they get old, so don't worry, you will not be burning in your 40s for a woman. This nut clarity as testosterone goes down a little will also make you smarter and don't fall for the lowest of the lowest women, such as single or divorced moms and other useless women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 04:16 PM
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I think you are missing the point and interpreting it as something against women, but it is not. Obviously a man is the best if he has it all in his best years of youth, but that is not the case for most men, but most men are not like that. Most men get good money, house, stable job, etc. into their 30s. Women are as interested on resources of men as on the men themselves, so many men do their best late in life when they lock resources. Women, however, are way more valuable for their youth and f…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 04:12 PM
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