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TL;DR. Stop writing these self-indulgently long word-pukes. Very few people have the time or patience to sort through these walls of text.
/r/TheRedPill12/11/22 07:45 PM
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Honestly good for a thinking-over. Riffing on this, I, at my core, am mildly on the spectrum and find myself extremely impatient with women, being rational and logical, often to a fault. I'm working on it.
/r/TheRedPill01/06/22 12:08 AM
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Riversofhell is correct. I know this because your experience was mine, literally every second time I tried to make a woman interested in me when I was in post-secondary. She'd string me along with little crumbs of affection or feigned interest, usually because she wanted someone who took good notes she could rely on, to provide, if she missed class. It's been said before, but sidebar, stat, bro.
/r/TheRedPill12/05/22 06:14 PM
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No - you have to conceive of yourself as the prize. If you're the supplicant trying to win her approval, allowing her to be, in your words, 'picky,' you're in a losing position.
/r/TheRedPill12/05/22 06:13 PM
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Agreed - it's hubristic and sophistic to assume one brief post is going to give the average frustrated man just discovering the red pill any significant or valuable insight into attracting women.
/r/TheRedPill24/04/22 09:19 PM
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"A book," meaning around 400 words. Oh the humanity. What's the matter? It's not like you don't have the time on your hands.
/r/TheRedPill19/04/22 09:07 PM
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I like it. There's something to be said for brevity.
/r/TheRedPill19/04/22 08:19 PM
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There are millions of authentic men being themselves who women have zero interest in. It's coming from a place where the author presumes you have some of the fundamentals of being an interesting, confident human being with his life together already in order. So long as you're not a complete fuckup, and living as a man ought to (to wit: successfully, with realistic goals and a reasonable plan for how to achieve them, a solid personal code and maybe a lot of plates on the barbell too) being authen…
/r/TheRedPill19/04/22 08:03 PM
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Most people who've accomplished great things, usually have done so in spite of, or bouncing back from some kind of horrible trauma.
/r/TheRedPill06/04/22 03:35 PM
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i wasn't the one claiming to have one did i? No, man - you're totally right. You weren't - you were just pouting and and whining that the advice given wasn't a secret strategy. That's such an important distinction and definitely makes you look like less of a squalling toddler throwing a tantrum. My mistake! Good thing you caught me on that one, my dude. i even mentioned PUA is not somethign i am interested to do right now. jesus I'm sure the women of the world are crying themselves to sleep over…
/r/TheRedPill28/03/22 05:05 PM
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That does not make men immune. Go ahead and point out to me where I claimed that in my previous post - I'll wait. I'm not pouting, or sulking Yes you are - you still are, in fact. You're uncomfortable that we're talking frankly about why sexual double standards exist and have no rational rebuttal to anything put on the table beyond straw-men arguments.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/22 05:00 PM
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I presume so people can talk about it. Yeah, I get it, your power level is high and this is just telling you things you already know - and I understand that, as I feel the same way. But if this convinces one guy who's not on steady social footing to stop simping and chasing ill-fated relationships with shitty women who'll cheat on them, it's served it's purpose, as far as I'm concerned.
/r/TheRedPill27/03/22 11:20 PM
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Bisexuality is only trendy and cool if women do it, because the normative cultural narrative is: Two women making out: Hot, subversive and sickin' it to the heteronormative patriarchy! Two men making out outside of narrow criteria like both of them being physically attractive and/or high-status: Pussies who can't get the girl, so they have to resort to what they do in prison. Even when pretending to care about LGBTQ+ issues, most heterosexual women, when the chips are down, heeding the instinctu…
/r/TheRedPill27/03/22 11:11 PM
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His comment implied there were fewer downsides. And no, you're right, venereal disease don't exclusively affect women, but women are at a far greater risk of contracting and spreading them through their genitals, which, in case you just beamed down from a sexless space colony, are mucous membranes. You can pout and sulk and make straw-man arguments all you want, women are literally physically built to transmit STIs more easily.
/r/TheRedPill27/03/22 11:05 PM
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what is your argument for men being allowed to be promiscuous while women can't. Sperm is cheaper than egg. The average man has to actually work to get laid, and put in some effort. Women basically show up. (This is the weaker point.) Women's genitals are much more effective vectors for STIs than male hardware. This isn't hearsay or misogyny -- as this fact is literally corroborated by the CDC, and, interestingly enough, the first item on the list. A few 1% Chads sleeping around is a significant…
/r/TheRedPill27/03/22 11:02 PM
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Not many, but several. Meanwhile, when the average male libido burns brightest, the impulse is to fuck everything with a vagina in range until spent. That's why porn is one of many things (video games, streaming services, fast food) that suck the life out of men.
/r/TheRedPill27/03/22 10:56 PM
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But in many of those same conversations, when asked, a large amount would be open to dating a transman as long as they had "man parts". That's just virtue signalling and the biphobia you mentioned earlier is just hypergamy deeming men who sleep with other men "lesser," because gay men are seen as effeminate and not as "alpha." Women say a lot of stuff, and very little of it has any real meaning.
/r/TheRedPill27/03/22 10:53 PM
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The problem, in my estimation, is the dominant cultural narrative of a monogamous relationship leading to marriage is some sort of goal. Men - particularly plugged-in/bluepill/beta men - fall for this and the constant narrative they're sold on that tells them the primary determinant of their worth is how attractive they are to women. If more men understood their worth, specifically over time and even more specifically, in relation to women's worth, over time, they'd not be so quick to toss their…
/r/TheRedPill27/03/22 10:50 PM
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Monogamy and the whole relationship-script that came with it originally was a mutually beneficial agreement - the women got resources to raise their kids and the men had some certainty the kids they were feeding and taking care of were their own. You take that away and it turns back into those tribes in the jungle.
/r/TheRedPill27/03/22 10:48 PM
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There is always that risk, yes.
/r/TheRedPill27/03/22 10:39 PM
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There is no secret strategy. If you want to reliably pull, you have to come off as someone who has social skills, when talking to women. There are no shortcuts.
/r/TheRedPill27/03/22 10:38 PM
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Rolled my eyes at first, but I won't lie - I smirked. Every court needs a jester.
/r/TheRedPill27/03/22 08:58 PM
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Well, at least he made his point - however trite - without resorting to a 12,000-word count.
/r/TheRedPill20/03/22 11:21 PM
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Calm down, Poindexter, everyone else in the room knows what he's talking about - posts with minimal content and over-the-top wordcounts.
/r/TheRedPill20/03/22 11:20 PM
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Men become men from boys through conflict and sacrifice, just as sailors are made through surviving the fury of the sea. 100%. I lived at home, with parents, well into my twenties and in that time, could not pull for the life of me, and women could smell it off me that I didn't have that life experience, confidence in myself or anything else that comes with it. Then, upon moving out, I went through a sequence of shitty circumstances and personal crises that I eventually saw myself through. Comin…
/r/TheRedPill27/02/22 10:53 PM
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And you think she wouldn't, cut out the watermark, falsely claim it was someone else's, ignore cease and desists, and if push came to a shove and OP tried to sue her (we're already heavy on the hypotheticals here), cry "r_pe" and try to turn it into another #MeToo fable?
/r/TheRedPill27/02/22 10:27 PM
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Exactly. These are the kind of women who make rent payments by getting shipped out to the developing world and letting Saudi princes literally take a shit on them for money. Don't be afraid to put your foot down, because if you don't, you're going to get fleeced.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/22 09:55 PM
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Exactly. If OP doesn't make it unequivocal, she'll try to use that against him and accus him of "lying" to her or "misleading" her, because right now, she thinks (and wants to think) that OP is going to give her a service for free.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/22 09:53 PM
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This kind of behavior tricks our brethren to believe that the blue pill is necessary. Agreed. There can sometimes be a fine line and criticism, but all it takes are a couple of negative experiences to push some men back into the Matrix. When I come in here I want to help. I don't mean to sing my own praises, but that ought to be the default. Clearly, OP needed some guidance, dealing with a very manipulative, unscrupulous woman. No shame in that.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/22 09:50 PM
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Or, you could be tolerant and not expect everyone who's read the sidebar to immediately be an alpha-Chad who can pull 9s and 10s. It's an honest question. Literally everyone else has fairly criticized him without berating him and you've provided nothing of value.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/22 09:48 PM
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Yeah, it hurts to see someone getting played like OP, but the way I see it, running him up the flag pole doesn't help. If he didn't come here and have people pointing out all the red flags, there'd be one more man obliviously letting some clout-chasing succubus fleece him, hoping it'd lead to some strange with a pretty girl from the internet. Now, he knows better, and if any of his fellow photographers or friends ever end up at a similar juncture, hopefully he'll tell them and they'll know bette…
/r/TheRedPill27/02/22 09:46 PM
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Exactly. It doesn't matter if OP frames it as "just fun." It's not "just fun" for her. And if she can make money while paying as little as possible, she'll do it. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to pound a dirty fuck into most IG-models, but dispositionally, they're a couple of notches above lizards. Nothing but calculating and scheming, and they can barely hide that fact.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/22 09:41 PM
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That's reaching. Like, really reaching. If you're going to staw-man someone's point at least be creative about it.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/22 09:38 PM
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An IG-model's favorite kind of business - the kind that involves her doing as little as possible and taking as little responsibility as possible.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/22 09:37 PM
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​ After letting her know that, we started throwing some ideas around and after sm talking she recenty brought up that she is also thinking of doing some "bts boudoir and onlyfans shots" for her onlyfans. So, let me get this right: she wants you to render her services for free? Now frankly, she is quite attractive and I've been wanting us to hang out and kind of just have fun shooting and see where it goes, but now with this idea of shooting for onlyfans it kind of might make things a bit off, si…
/r/TheRedPill27/02/22 09:23 PM
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Rollo is one of the best. I read a lot of content I chance upon, going down rabbit holes from side-bar recommendations, but Tomassi's stuff is the gold standard for red pill. And many luminaries in our broad community should take notes from Rollo - because nobody's cancelled him yet. He says things that other people have said less tactfully and been roasted about. It's telling that he can show his face, make it clear where (generally) he lives and has been pretty explicit about what he does for …
/r/TheRedPill26/02/22 09:28 PM
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To the young guys reading this who are thinking "But I don't want to die alone", you're going to die alone anyway. Most marriages end in divorce, and financially ruin a man for life, so he dies in poverty, alone. A lot of guys, even engaged, unplugged, RP guys, and particularly in the socially conservative side of the right-wing of the political spectrum, get it into their head that marriage, in an of itself, is some sort of game-changer that's going to realign a woman's priorities. That, obviou…
/r/TheRedPill26/02/22 09:24 PM
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Wasn't originally going to comment on this thread, because the takeaway from the OP is self-evident drivel, but thank you for pointing this out. Tinder creates a safe space. Too safe. You end up in limbo, trying to make things work - and it all hinges on whether or not the woman in question is willing to do the absolute bare minimum and respond to your opener. I absolutely hate rejection as much - probably more - than the average man, but there's a a certainty that you get meeting someone in per…
/r/TheRedPill23/02/22 05:00 AM
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I beg to differ. You have girls making their ''boyfriends'' wait for 4-5 months being praised and showered with attention taken to trips receiving gifts before they finally decide ok ill give him sex I'm as old as dirt, and even when I was young to the point of thinking with the smaller head more often than not, women were up to that exact kind of harebrained duplicity - and men were also falling for it in large numbers back then. Women are only going to do what they think you'll let them get aw…
/r/TheRedPill23/02/22 04:14 AM
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Certainly not, but they require skills for which there is considerable overlap.
/r/TheRedPill23/02/22 04:10 AM
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Financial hardship, emotional hardship, physical hardship - and above all - spiritual hardship.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/02/22 03:43 AM
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God bless everything about this, from your evocative user name to the content and verbiage of your comment. I want to buy you a beer.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/02/22 03:35 AM
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having a kid is probably the most life changing and important decision you can ever make as you are essentially bringing another human on this planet, yet it is treated as just another event that happens. The way you worded that is on point, because for the most part, it is just something that "happens" for these women popping out kids by the bushel before they're even halfway through their twenties, it's just that. Something happening to them. Just finding a good set of genes and hoping everyth…
/r/TheRedPill19/02/22 05:43 PM
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I agree. There are a lot of low-value men who have no interest in improving themselves or their lot in life, who are beginning to recognize their poor prospects of finding a wife and building a family and have decided video games, booze whatever surrogate they become addicted to is better than the alternative of dealing with how poorly women treat them. To each their own. It's not an easy go to claw oneself out of mediocrity, but the rewards are worth it.
/r/TheRedPill17/02/22 03:19 PM
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I hope I'm right too! Lmao
/r/TheRedPill17/02/22 03:16 PM
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That's the way to be, man. Not going to lie, I love the sneers I get from women my own age, as they recognize how much younger than they, my S.O. is. Nothing rankles the Beckies-turned-Karens like their own fading social power, and how it was all predicated on how badly people wanted to bang them - and how much that trivializes that fading power, after the fact.
/r/TheRedPill17/02/22 03:38 AM
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Can they, though? There's a growing body of evidence that's not the case as female enrollment in post-secondary education jumps and a growing cohort of women ask more of men, "settling" less as they earn more and ask more of men - often financially. There's a pretty dramatic uptick in "where have all the good men gone?"-whining. All quips about causality-versus-correlation aside, obviously those two trends aren't just coincidence. It's not that easy for a growing number of women to hop off the C…
/r/TheRedPill16/02/22 08:06 PM
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they start advocating for socialism. "Start?" They already are. That's the majority of the female vote already, urban and to an extent, rural. Moot point. No, they're going to try to use the force of government to take the wealth from the men who rejected them. Of course they will, like their predecessors. Why are you so aggravated about this? We literally devise strategies to adapt to this hostile climate in this community. I never said anything about women "accepting" what's to come. You're pu…
/r/TheRedPill16/02/22 07:25 PM
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This is going to hit millennial women the hardest. Have you seen Tinder these days? Nothing but demands for stability, money and certainty from these sad late-20-somethings and 30-somethings as they hit their epiphany phases and confront the consequences of treating men disrespectfully for the last decade. This is reassuring, as an entire generation of women who thought they could act out with impunity suddenly realize, "wait, I do want kids!" and "wait, I DO want a white house on a hill with a …
/r/TheRedPill16/02/22 04:53 PM
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You're completely misreading this.
/r/TheRedPill16/02/22 04:50 PM
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I don't know why people are downvoting you, because you're right. If you want to keep a woman around longer than a few nights at a time, she's eventually going to need you to show some humanity. Women like Chad for a night or two, but they don't like mindless golems who are incapable of the gamut of human emotion. If you're gonna sit around bottling up emotions like an artist with a soft-R, she's going to know something's up. Especially because when most men bottle up their emotions, it curdles …
/r/TheRedPill16/02/22 04:50 PM
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I honestly grew up believing that women are turned off by male aggression Same, to the point where I went around constantly virtue signaling how peaceful and laid-back I was. Nothing could be further from the truth. One of the hottest, most protracted, loud orgasms I gave an ex with penetration alone, was after she watched me angrily confront another man at the bar who said something objectifying about her ass. She was pulling at my coat, begging me to "be the bigger man," and thankfully, nothin…
/r/TheRedPill16/02/22 04:42 PM
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Now I understand where you come from when you say "Don't settle/marry/love a western woman", but when you spatter your disdain toward those college educated women, (I feel this way because the more traditional/conservative western women are often led into a marriage decided by her family a bit after high school is over), well I feel like you just have a disdain for those women Slow your roll. That's a gargantuan strawman argument. You can't come in here and accuse us categorically of disdain for…
/r/TheRedPill16/02/22 04:33 PM
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Isn't this kinda the same thing FemaleDatingStrategy recommends? Of course they want commitment and tributes and shit like that, This is where my philosophy differs. If I'm banging a woman and she suddenly cuts contact and expects me to read the writing on the wall, I'm not going to dignify that by trying to contact her and getting over the wall of silence she puts up. That kind of behaviour on her part, to begin with, is usually an attempt to get some kind of closure. Usually an argument or a t…
/r/TheRedPill16/02/22 04:21 PM
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Agreed. Make them earn you.
/r/TheRedPill16/02/22 04:16 PM
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You're a bigger man than I am.
/r/TheRedPill16/02/22 04:15 PM
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Exactly. That's why so many of them - many under the banner of 'feminism' - wanted to see this sub closed permanently. The fact that men are catching on to how ruthless the game is, is scary to women who, in many cases, build their lives around manipulating men.
/r/TheRedPill16/02/22 04:14 PM
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100%. And that's not to say you can't pull women who aren't actively engaged and doing some of the work - but as OP has already established, it's not worth the effort in the long run and the sex usually becomes pretty perfunctory and passionless. (And nine times out of ten, the women in those situations are just waiting to monkey-branch up to a guy they're more attracted to.)
/r/TheRedPill16/02/22 04:12 PM
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And, to an extent, this is why fraternity is so crucial. Obviously you're not looking to cry, and be the small spoon around your guy-friends, but you'd be surprised how cathartic grumbling about the injustices of your life is, over a few beers, with a core group of male friends - just getting it out of your system. Having a chance to laugh at it, and triumph over it. The thing is, that kind of fraternity is getting rarer these days as women constantly invade male spaces and try to sterilize it a…
/r/TheRedPill16/02/22 12:01 AM
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You need to be an emotionally "capable" man. IE: you recognize your issues, you can talk about it openly and reasonably like it's no big deal, and it doesn't matter because you've already fixed them and/or don't need her help to do so. This. Often, in RP circles, they throw around phrases like "measured vulnerability" or "structured vulnerability," and all quibbles about vulnerability being a malleable word aside, these phrases and what you described are essentially the same thing. Guaranteed 99…
/r/TheRedPill15/02/22 11:55 PM
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Those pleas are usually just coded language. What they actually want is to get to know what makes you tick, usually operating with the assumption that like the rest of the male population they caricaturize as mindless, emotionally constipated meat robots, you'll open up with the self-restraint and control that they secretly expect you to have. It's a "covert contract." They say they want one thing, when they secretly want something else. They're never going to tell you they want that "something …
/r/TheRedPill15/02/22 11:46 PM
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You assuredly are not. Hyperpgamy is nature's means of filtering out crappy genes and breeding strong offspring. It's not nice - but it works. And it's not just filtering out weepy bawling baby-men; many of the times I've been outright rejected, I absolutely hated the experience, but to play Devil's advocate, most of those times, I was doing something "off," "awkward," or poorly socially calibrated and was coming up against natural aversions to that in women.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/22 11:41 PM
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I've actually opened up numerous times with women and I've never had it back fire It's not necessarily a hard rule to avoid opening up and you make a valid point. A lot of guys complaining about their S.O. scorning them after "opening up" are just whiny losers who finally got called out on the undignified way they live their lives by women sick of their shit. No real surprise there. Has anyone else had success with being a pussy for a short burst and otherwise being a stoic/cold man? Obviously, …
/r/TheRedPill15/02/22 11:31 PM
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The divide in sexual access between Chads and chumps will continue to grow. Haves will have more, have nots will have less. This one has been a long time coming. Just being good with words and aping confidence aren't going to cut it for much longer. The golden age of the "pickup artist" has long descended into its twilight. More guys will break bad and lose their shit publicly from lack of affection and attention causing mental illnesss. Media will wonder how could this happen complete with clai…
/r/TheRedPill15/02/22 11:21 PM
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The solution is: Don't Be Average. Couldn't agree more. There's never been a more fertile market for a guy who actually has his shit together. There is an entire generation of dudes who are extremely disillusioned, stuck in a regressive beta/BP backslide/tailspin, because they assumed reading about pickup, maybe posting on SoSuave or mASF a couple of times, and pretending to be really confident would get them women. If the confidence doesn't come from a place of genuine self-assurance, it's wort…
/r/TheRedPill15/02/22 11:09 PM
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The feminine imperative will in turn come out with stronger shit tests. Already seeing this in full force. 80-20 rule in terms of dating will become even more strict. I would say it's closer to 90-10, where the top 10% of men will get 90% of women. This. I'd even take it a step further and say the most attractive women will be available only to an even smaller portion of that top 10%. I get a lot of unwanted attention from mediocre women I have no real interest in, so I'm pretty sure I'm in the …
/r/TheRedPill15/02/22 11:04 PM
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The smart thing would be to not work for a bunch of women, if by acting like women they elicit rage from you. Barring that, since I don't want to be flippant: Find an outlet. Potentially see if you can get booked for an anger management class.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/22 11:00 PM
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I love how they seethe at the idea of men dating younger women Never gets old - they're angry because they can do nothing about it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/22 03:26 AM
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DV tirades: "Look at DV rates among lesbian couples." "Who hurt you?": "Who hasn't been hurt? We're human beings, also you're muddying in the water to avoid rebutting my point." "You can't get laid." || "Can we have a conversation without you making it about your holes?" "Why should I take anything seriously from an anonymous account?" (Translation: "I'm upset I can't dox you." : "We've come this far, and it hasn't stopped you from arguing with me."
/r/MensRights25/01/22 06:00 PM
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It's knee-jerk because any valid criticism of open hypergamy, and the despicable way women treat men they deem 'lesser than,' when they heed said hypergamy, is labelled wrong-think (to wit: "muh-sojiny," or "SLuT ShAminG."
/r/MensRights25/01/22 05:49 PM
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one day our relationship evaporated and all I ever heard from her afterwards were the most banal cliches and lies. You're useful until you're not. And most of the time, the lies and cliches are just fortifications against recognizing how mercenary and manipulative they are. Anything to save face. i didn't cultivate other friendships. You ought to have. One of the hallmarks of male-on-female domestic violence is a deliberate effort to isolate the victim from her friends and family. You're essenti…
/r/MensRights25/01/22 05:42 PM
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It varies. If you're 50, and look like Danny Devito, you're probably not going to cash in on the Silver-Fox-phenomenon. If you take care of yourself, have cursory social skills and don't turn into a blob from a shitty lifestyle, more women will find you attractive, but that's more or less a universal rule at any time before 50 as well. I mean, if we're being fair, there are exceptions to the rule with women. Jennifer Anniston, for example.
/r/MensRights25/01/22 05:32 PM
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So many younger women turn downright nasty to them once they start showing their age. I hear a lot of rebuttals to this that go something like this, which is more or less, "woe is me, men aren't paying attention to me anymore." But, women who age and 'feel invisible' are not getting ripped into and treated with deliberate hostility the way aging men are by younger women. Older women are not immediately, by default, expected of having nefarious sexual motives by younger men. instead of just ignor…
/r/MensRights25/01/22 05:26 PM
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Watching those coy smiles turn to disgusted sneers as my hairline started to recede over the course of three years was truly illuminating. Don't you dare utter as much as a whisper about a woman's weight and its effect on how attractive she is, but if you're bald (or short, that's another one you don't have control over) you're by default, gross, and fair game for any and every form of mockery and emotional abuse.
/r/MensRights25/01/22 05:14 PM
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Couldn't agree more. It's normative too. They'll have completely different personalities around people, predicated solely on how badly they want to sleep with them.
/r/MensRights25/01/22 05:05 PM
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Women...give me unbelievably scornful looks at the gym. Some of them just straight up laugh and point when I’m struggling to just lift the bar. This kind of behaviour, albeit specific, is a kernel of of why I have trouble bonding with and trusting women. Knowing a majority, if not all of them, are capable of this straight-up sociopathy, often for no reason, and will face zero consequences for it most of the time, since it's so passive-aggressive. ...women telling me that it’s really not that bad…
/r/MensRights25/01/22 05:03 PM
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Find a new way of saying it. People have literally been trained, whether by the prevailing cultural narrative, or the left-leaning media outlets that parrot it, to instinctually shut down those three words. It's a meme in and of itself, it's become so widely abused. Am I suggesting something as simple as a semantic shift? Yes. Try something like: "I'm not responsible for how someone else I've never met behaves," if you're getting flak from some woman about a hypothetical harassment or instance o…
/r/MensRights25/01/22 04:56 PM
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Vasectomies can be reversed ('can' being the operative work). Whatever the trajectory, it's an often-painful, prone-to-complications process. If you're going to do it, do it because you want to, not because Becky doesn't want to go on the pill and is holding out for Chad while she's sleeping with you and "doesn't want to take any risks."
/r/MensRights24/01/22 09:23 PM
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They're generally a pretty poor lot at sympathizing and empathizing with suffering men. That's not saying you won't find genuinely compassionate women in your life - they're just few and far between.
/r/MensRights24/01/22 09:20 PM
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Of course she, the one who assaulted him, is playing the victim - of course!
/r/MensRights24/01/22 09:19 PM
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Girls can do it too Nail, meet head. You are correct. I stopped taking any conversation about that 'male gaze' crap seriously when I started recognizing where most older women's eyes were going when I'd walk past in fitted pants. It's the evil male gaze when it's coming from leering construction workers, or a homeless man looking for change. It's 'seductive' when it comes from someone they want to sleep with, and god forbid you call them out on it, if they're doing the very thing they condemn.
/r/MensRights24/01/22 04:28 PM
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Never have I been happier to be part of a problem. 😢Cry harder, bitter feminists shrews. It's not gonna take away that itch in your ovaries and the hole in your heart.
/r/MensRights24/01/22 04:26 PM
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Agreed. If all you're presenting about yourself is that you're sexy and have an attitude, you're gonna keep getting the same diminishing returns you've been relying on since your twenties from the people you're looking to attract.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/01/22 07:52 PM
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She's really got her work cut out for her if she's a post-wall scold in Thailand. Women twice her SMV - and half her age - are willing to do much more, for much less of your money. World's oldest profession, baby!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/01/22 07:51 PM
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"I've already passed that stage," says the post wall shrew. Well, most high value men haven't. So settle for scraps or get used to being lonely. 🤣
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/01/22 07:50 PM
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I don't think the Sun counts as real newspaper. Most British tabloids can only be described as 'journalism' if you're going by an extremely liberal and generous definition.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/01/22 07:48 PM
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Funny you say that, because the Sun is a tabolid that's doing exceptionally well in a time of major journalistic decline, often specifically because it has cornered the market on "scandals". Like it or not, people at that shit up.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/01/22 07:47 PM
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Yeah, it's bad but the editors of the newspaper who think that drivel is worth publication are worse. Let's make sure the blame is adequately distributed here, those editors deserve to loser their jobs and have their wrists broken for publishing that.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/01/22 07:46 PM
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Marriage strike now!
/r/MensRights12/01/22 07:04 PM
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Marriage strike!
/r/MensRights12/01/22 07:04 PM
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Well, I misinterpreted by a long shot! Understandable, and thank you for clarifying. I admire your thoroughness and respect in the face of my flippancy. Cheers to you!
/r/MensRights12/01/22 07:02 PM
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Do you have control over fight or flight? Can you control your urge to breath? Your reflex's if you touch something hot... Are you really sitting here, trying to play at being some half-bit Richard Dawkins, suggesting that there's some sort of equivalency between reptilian brain neuron-deep biological impulses like flight-or-fight and your inability to resist ogling women when they're scantily clad? But we are still at our cores animals just trying to procreate and that underlying thing is WHY w…
/r/MensRights12/01/22 05:54 PM
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Of course there are rules, trends, commonalities in behaviour. If there weren't, there wouldn't be so many men so fed up with women judging and shaming them for their emotions. maybe judge the entirety of my comment and not just the first sentence on its own. Those are bold words to use when you're sitting there trying to grill me over one word you misinterpreted in my post. Also, if I recall correctly, there was more to my previous comment than just a response to "the first sentence." In fact, …
/r/MensRights12/01/22 05:34 PM
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i’ve never met a woman who says that men crying is a “turn off”. You're one person, sharing one anecdote. The average person only meets a few thousand in their life. Meanwhile there's a surfeit of men also sharing anecdotes that contradict your own, citing massive shaming against them for showing emotions and vulnerability to women. Meanwhile there are significant numbers of women outright admitting the are disgusted at the sight of an emotional man. I'm not saying your experiences aren't valid,…
/r/MensRights12/01/22 04:28 PM
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what kind of women do you meet that just scream and cry in danger? Really? I've spent a lot of time with a lot of different people in pretty hazardous scenarios, and while they might not necessarily be "screaming and crying," women have massively more heightened emotional responses to danger.
/r/MensRights12/01/22 04:25 PM
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For every person saying that crying is a turn-off you will found hundreds saying it turns them on. Gonna call bullshit on that one. A majority of women rigorously emotionally and socially punish and shame men for crying.
/r/MensRights12/01/22 04:22 PM
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Right you are.
/r/MensRights12/01/22 04:20 PM
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I think it's both. Generally speaking - there are exceptions - there's some biological backing for the idea that men tend to be less emotional than women. Anecdotal, yes, but vast difference in the way my wife and I respond to the same stimulus is ample evidence of that for me. (I.E. I mangled my bumper hitting and killing a porcupine a week ago. I gasped, muttered a few obscenities, called the porcupine a "poor son of a bitch" and moved on, grumbling about the hundreds it would cost to fix my b…
/r/MensRights12/01/22 04:16 PM
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We're not all cumming our pants the moment we see a little cleavage. We're all capable of being better than that. "Biology" is not a talisman you can use to justify your poor impulse control. Do better.
/r/MensRights12/01/22 04:12 PM
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Yeah, but we're sophisticated mammals, and sophisticated animals that are capable of reason. ​ Don't brand us all as ithyphallic leg-humping idiots because you're concerned that you don't have control over your own impulses when you see a woman dressed to the nines.
/r/MensRights12/01/22 04:10 PM
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This hiding of emotions hurts men but they do it anyway to be masculine. They do it anyway, because they alternative is they get prolifically socially shamed and rigorously emotionally punished if they don't swallow their emotions and act like macho-manly-men who are completely in control 24/7.
/r/MensRights12/01/22 04:05 PM
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It's almost like women have no place telling men what they should or shouldn't be.
/r/MensRights12/01/22 04:04 PM
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Men never try to act tough in front of other men? Of course they do. Nobody's alleging there aren't multiple dimensions to how harmful toxic masculinity is. Society is the root cause of men pushing to he more masculine. Yes - but that's a gross oversimplification and a fine way to derail the nascent conversation about what's wrong with that. Women aren't martyrs in this dynamic. In the case of heterosexual relations - where you see most of what people call toxic masculinity - women are the ones …
/r/MensRights12/01/22 03:57 PM
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Agreed. We're not going to reach a point, anytime soon, where it's socially acceptable for men to openly display vulnerability. Like it or not, she's to an extent correct, and is a case study of what little tolerance women have for it. I'm not saying it's a good or bad thing, but at least she's not trying to hide how bereft of empathy she is and what little she gives a shit about men's suffering.
/r/MensRights11/01/22 10:51 PM
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You don't need to be religious to see how absurd and childish unchecked feminism is. I can make rational decisions and see the lack of rationality plenty without God getting involved. Get off your pulpit.
/r/MensRights11/01/22 10:45 PM
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It's a fine balance. I've only had to do it a few times, but since I'm a quiet guy and like to avoid conflict, the sudden sternness had extra effect. It's a bit like the timing a particular fictional character uses here, when the rest of his bannermen are pushing his buttons and not showing respect. It doesn't even necessarily need to be something obscene. In my case, it's usually something to the effect of: "Cut the crap!"
/r/MensRights11/01/22 10:42 PM
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Then why only women are entitled to it, but a crying man is still seen as weak ? Isn't that pushing traditional and so called "Patriarchy" by the Feminists themselves ? Feminists only hate the parts of the patriarchy that don't benefit them. That's why some of the most brazen bitchy killjoy marxist bluehairs will still date bikers and aggressive dudes That's what they do, they take equal rights and opportunities only which favours Women, not vice versa... They want to set the rules, not play by …
/r/MensRights11/01/22 10:38 PM
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More so schadenfreude than vengeance because she'll be long forgotten by the time the ugly consequences of her revolting personality manifest. But yeah, you're right. Part of the fight is encouraging good women to continue being good, while allowing space for the ones who act out to run headlong into the consequences of their own terrible decisions. Part of that "allowing space" is encouraging men not to simp and give shitty women outs.
/r/MensRights11/01/22 10:32 PM
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There were evolutionary reasons for bashing other people's heads in with rocks and doing a whole gamut of atrocious things to other people that are punished as crimes now. You don't see anyone doing any of that shit anymore without consequences.
/r/MensRights11/01/22 10:07 PM
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even if it means being called “toxically masculine”. they just use your emotions against you, The only emotion these types women should be getting from you, or I , or anyone else with their head on straight is contempt and occasionally the kind of explosive anger (raising your voice, without warning) that is so effective at scaring them and shutting them up. Caveat: Not advocating for threatening behavior or violence - the power of a well timed "shut the fuck up" in a deeper, louder voice works …
/r/MensRights11/01/22 10:01 PM
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"It's OK for men to cry (under specific circumstances, when alone and very far away from me so I don't have to deal with it)." Wahmen are so empathetic and compassionate.
/r/MensRights11/01/22 09:58 PM
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"Here's a list of specific external criteria that must be met if you are to display any degree of emotion outside of the socially acceptable range of confident, boisterous happiness and controlled anger. Meanwhile I am entitled to overreact to the gamut of emotions." I take solace in knowing that women who don't learn to get this shit under control before their beauty fades are almost guaranteed to be very lonely and bitter for the rest of their lives.
/r/MensRights11/01/22 09:57 PM
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Imagine being narcissistic enough to think it's your prerogative to police someone else's emotions?
/r/MensRights11/01/22 09:54 PM
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The stakes are higher with nukes and an accelerating climate issues, but yeah, for all of history up until the last 50 years or so, the life was, as Hobbes put it, "SOLITARY, POOR, NASTY, BRUTISH, AND SHORT." Life expectancy and the ease with which people can live life, thanks to innumerable modern amenities, however, are both on the rise. Life has always been, as described before, "fucked," it's "fucked" for different reasons now. Kind of a moot point, because surviving now means something vast…
/r/MensRights11/01/22 05:08 PM
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Also, MGTOW are a minority with a high turnover rate. Most guys use it as therapy for breakups and handling de-selection. Not sure why you're getting flak for this, because you're 100% right. MGTOW/red pill are usually just launching pads for guys in a slump looking to get back on their A-game. A cursory glance around every couple of months confirms that. That might ruffle some feathers, but doesn't make it untrue. Meanwhile, FDS and their ilk are the permanent home for the untouchable class of …
/r/MensRights11/01/22 05:05 PM
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When things start collapsing they'll beg for help "They" being women? Doubtful. Women will still gravitate toward the same kinds of aggressive, unemotional, ambitious men they already flock to today. Women don't hate the patriarchy - they hate the fact that they have so little control over how much they crave a strong patriarchal hand, paired with good genes, social status and the rest of that grocery list of shit they want in men. Men are the first to put other men under the bus if they think t…
/r/MensRights11/01/22 04:59 PM
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FDS is hypergamy in real time. And since hypergamy is the most sacrosanct of biological directives women follow, it's untouchable. I don't like this, you don't like this - nobody likes this - but it is what it is. Getting angry about this like getting mad because water's wet. It's not going to change - that's how engrained female interests are in the cultural narrative. And that is how communities like MGTOW were born Exactly. The reason FDS is given so much leniency, despite being a repository …
/r/MensRights11/01/22 04:53 PM
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Maybe. I'm experienced and I still have a problem with how lopsided the rules are for men and women. Some of that anger doesn't go away. The difference between me, and those nutbars who flooded into MGTOW and MGTOW 2 before they were banned is that I know better than to dump all my grievances into a public place and run it through a filter. The problem is that all MGTOW is lumped in with the Rage and so entire communities are shut down because people, particularly feminists, are too lazy to unde…
/r/MensRights11/01/22 04:48 PM
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No. But there's a time and place for anger - productive anger. Anyone with even a shriveled nub of a prefrontal cortex has enough restraint to stop victim-puking and hysterically musing about committing violent acts against women. And that's always what happened in those subs. They'd start out reasonable enough and then the nutbars who couldn't be reasoned with would start coming in, posting repulsive shit, begging to get the whole thing taken down and banned. You'd call someone out on something…
/r/MensRights11/01/22 04:35 PM
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Red pill rage is what keeps killing these online communities. They're fine until these guys with mommy-issues come in and start talking encouragingly about violence against women and other out-to-lunch crazy shit. It's happened here and it happened in other communities outside of Reddit. Case in Point is (or rather, was) the Cheateau Heartiste (formerly Chateau Roissy/ Citizen Renegade) blog. It started out a great critique of sexual dynamics with a bit of politics and game worked into it. A gre…
/r/MensRights11/01/22 04:25 PM
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That whore should be in jail.
/r/MensRights11/01/22 04:08 PM
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Ignore this guy, OP. Do not commit aggravated assault or second-degree murder. ThomasMemaryk, are you off your rocker? Touched in the head? Off your meds? Delete this shit. You're going to get this sub fucking banned if you encourage people to stab other people. Edit: Thank you moderators. You're doing god's work. One would think, after watching TRP, and MGTOW 1 and 2 get pulverized by the ban hammer for far less, you wouldn't have to advise overzealous members against posting questionable shit,…
/r/MensRights11/01/22 04:02 PM
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This needs more upvotes. I have no idea why people are so convinced they're going to jail for recording other people in a public place. There are very few exceptions to this.
/r/MensRights11/01/22 03:59 PM
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This needs more upvotes. I have no idea why people are so convinced they're going to jail for recording other people in a public place. There are very few exceptions to this.
/r/MensRights11/01/22 03:59 PM
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Agreed. And I take no joy in this, because someone bigger, angrier and capable of more efficiently delivering violence will beat the tar out of her and she won't be able to do anything about it. And once she recovers from the inevitable concussion, it's just going to put an even bigger chip on her shoulder.
/r/MensRights11/01/22 03:58 PM
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Agreed. And I take no joy in this, because someone bigger, angrier and capable of more efficiently delivering violence will beat the tar out of her and she won't be able to do anything about it. And once she recovers from the inevitable concussion, it's just going to put an even bigger chip on her shoulder.
/r/MensRights11/01/22 03:58 PM
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Most violent offenders in prison are men; women, on average, take on more debt, at worse times and have a harder time paying it off. Both are uncomfortable truths, but which one are we squirming at more, here? Generally speaking, women are bad with their money - specifically debt. They borrow money more often, and they're worse at paying it off - that includes credit card debt - and in a majority of cases, they turn to men to help get their house in order. Is it all women? Of course not. Nobody …
/r/MensRights11/01/22 03:23 PM
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I love how blatantly hypocritical the narrative is now. Out of one side of their mouth, constantly demanding validation for being breadwinners in their own right, blah blah blah, "I'm a queen, not a princess, not a damsel," blah blah blah, "I'm independent and proud of it," blah blah blah....and then out of the other side, "fuck men for not earning enough to buy me a house on a hill with a white picket fence." I don't even think, once pregnancy is factored out, that earning potential is that dif…
/r/MensRights10/01/22 04:45 PM
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Bullshit. It's (not) an industry secret that men in porn are as reliant on Viagra as former Disney stars are on benzos and pain killers. And if you're going to try and shill some dating seminar or bootcamp, try to tone down the emotionalized language in your pitch. We're adults here, not 16-year-old girls.
/r/MensRights09/01/22 07:56 PM
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I try not to yell bc my reaction to her bullshit could work in her favor. Exactly. The more emotional one is losing, which is why, as a man, it's really easy to 'win' (notice the quotation marks) those arguments by investing in them less. It's tough to be the rock that all that shit just washes over, when she's yelling in your ear as you drive, but my advice would be to ditch women who make a habit out of those tactical moves, because they know exactly what they're doing, and if they have a habi…
/r/MensRights09/01/22 07:52 PM
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Nah, that's just what you think when you don't have a strong sense of self. This giga-chad shit is an unattainable ideal.
/r/MensRights09/01/22 07:44 PM
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Nah bro, sigma is where it's at. 🤣
/r/MensRights09/01/22 07:42 PM
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Yes, most of them are dogshit. The majority of "alpha male life coaches," are a bunch of absolute losers, and 99/100 of them, in any random sample, are shameless hucksters trying to peddle you something someone else made up before them at a premium. Don't give any of these snake oil peddlers any money. You can torrent for free some of the earlier manifestations of this 'alpha-male' drivel, just to see what you're really missing by avoiding this crop of manly-man self help. Granted, there is a bi…
/r/MensRights09/01/22 07:40 PM
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Or maybe you're on edge when you drive, and interpret even minor disagreements as 'starting a fight' when you're in the car? Nice gaslighting.
/r/MensRights09/01/22 07:32 PM
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That's not without merit. Women learn all those manipulative behaviours far earlier in their lives than men do - they also never grow out of using them. The proper way to look at that would be to say that women mature faster, and stop maturing even faster.
/r/MensRights09/01/22 07:31 PM
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Most women's magazines offer 'hot tips' on how to manipulate men.
/r/MensRights09/01/22 07:29 PM
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I was juggling deflecting her verbal onslaught and trying to stay focused on getting to our destination. BTW I drive stick on top of that I had a friend with a girlfriend like that. I'd often drive them places for fun, and she'd start arguing with him, and dragging me into those arguments when we were driving. I ghosted her five years ago and haven't looked back once. I still talk to the friend (he lives in another country) but she gets stone-walled. Sometimes women need to learn a lesson in res…
/r/MensRights09/01/22 07:27 PM
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You're right. There are all kinds of ways to resolve issues in a relationship - and that includes plenty women could use that don't involve waiting until their men are in compromised positions and screeching them into submission. I know if my girl ever tried that - and so far, so good, she's never done that - I'd leave her sorry ass, move out on my own and leave the utility bills in her name, hands-down. It's unfortunate, but often, as a man, knowing your worth can occasionally involve being pre…
/r/MensRights09/01/22 07:25 PM
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It seems to me like it's a psychological tactic bc only part of my attention is on the issue she conveniently presents while the rest of my attention is on not getting us killed on the road! That's literally what it is. Other fun times are when you're rattled over something unrelated and partly distracted, half-awake, very drunk, or trying to concentrate on something (video games, car repairs, computer maintenance, etc). It's meant as a way to 'bypass' your logic circuits and attack you emotiona…
/r/MensRights09/01/22 07:21 PM
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To be fair, a lot of people think going into psychiatric care isn't as bad as prison. Jury's kind of out on that one, either way, you're locked up for the rest of your life. Check out this. Explains it better than I can. That being said, any incarceration faced by a woman will see her serving a shorter interval of time, and less likely to be raped, abused, assaulted or killed while incarcerated. In all areas, including incarceration, women play life on easy mode.
/r/MensRights06/01/22 11:25 PM
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Agreed. There is nothing wrong with criticizing, and being against a pernicious ideology and the abusive tools its acolytes use to enforce it.
/r/MensRights06/01/22 03:24 PM
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Sounds like an awful lot of reaching and vigorous inferences to draw from my use of one word. Sit down.
/r/MensRights04/01/22 09:21 PM
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Tradcon women do not oppose feminism or the grab bag of goodies they've obtained at men's expense. They oppose men's liberation from traditional gender roles. You're correct. If anything, trad-con women and 'red pill wives' are worse than feminists for that reason. They pretend to want to bring back a fifties-style patriarchy, when really, all they're really doing is trying to secure the same benefits that existed under a patriarchy that benefitted women. Tradwives and red pill wives are often m…
/r/MensRights04/01/22 06:40 PM
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Vet hard. Tell him to trust his gut when choosing women to associate with, whether they are friends, lovers or a potential wife. Being a 'gentleman' doesn't work anymore, and it hasn't worked for quite a while. If anything giving women preferential treatment by default is to put yourself between several sets of crosshairs. Don't do it! Honestly, 'respect women' kind of is enough. Respect them the same way you'd show respect and steer clear of large, wild animals that could hurt you. From 5 to ar…
/r/MensRights04/01/22 05:29 PM
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It won't be, because the popular response to the fact that men are the ones most often ground up in the gears of the legal system is to point out that they're the perpetrators of most of the violent crimes that end them up in there, and kill other men at such high rates to begin with. Is that reductive, harmful and just an all-around crappy way to respond to that? Yeah, but victim-blaming is fine, according to western culture, so long as men are the ones being mocked. And nobody wants to talk ro…
/r/MensRights04/01/22 05:25 PM
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I stopped supporting feminism when it got into bed with big government. Anything the movement has accomplished lately has been done in cahoots with a push for a stronger more bureaucratic state aparatus. Not my cup of tea. Oh, and all the misandry.
/r/MensRights31/12/21 07:05 PM
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Word. It got a bit "locker roomy" on and off - but again, hardly any worse than some of the tripe you see in places like FDS, and TwoXChromosomes. It used to be shocking to see these kinds of disparities in how toxic rhetoric is policed in subreddits, but those days are past. I come to expect it: Male spaces policed with granular scrutiny by paternalistic, nanny-state pearl-clutchers with their fingers hovering over the trigger and women are afforded massive leniency for saying some genuinely re…
/r/MensRights31/12/21 03:53 AM
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Agreed. Too many red-had 21-convention dude bros, and closeted school-shooter types of pissed in the pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 02:35 AM
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So does FDS, except it's beliefs and rhetoric that's hateful of men. Would you be willing to condemn the entirety of that community?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 02:34 AM
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I think for most of them if they actually found a woman they liked they'd ditch a lot of their "teachings" and would have the potential to be decent partners Wholly disagree. You can take useful tools to cultivate a stronger, more assertive personality from RP without the baggage. It wasn't until I started taking what worked for me from RP (and not taking it and trying to make all of it my identity like an impressionable shmuck) that I started having success with women. There's a great deal more…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 02:32 AM
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But you can equally apply that to women that believe unless you are wrapped around their finger, you're scum... A sense control seems to be present with FDS/TRP. ​ This is what I've been saying. Any horrible, categorical misogynistic invective you read in an RP forum (yes, they still exist), you can find the same level of spite and malevolence in places like FDS. That's a commonality they both have - ugly fringes, stuck in this gender-wars dystopia in their own heads. It stems from the same plac…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 02:27 AM
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What a great source! That must have been some exhaustive, painstaking research you did there. That's also a lot of words for: "I cherry picked examples from somewhere I knew I'd specifically find information that would gratify my terminal confirmation bias and require little if any effort."
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 02:10 AM
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I've met several of these men in real life Several is not a categorical sample. I know plenty of them, as well, and very few of them are spewing anti-woman rhetoric. Like most misunderstood, fringe groups, MGTOW/RP/MRAs have a loud, nasty minority that gets the biggest share of the attention. Who is the highest profile MRA? Paul-frickin'-Elam. I'm not an MRA myself, but I'd be distressed if that idiot was the poster child for the movement I'm part of. Yet a lot of them still actively try and pur…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 02:03 AM
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Well, I'm not opposed to men paying child support. What I want is a fair cut. The current "you're-on-the-hook-for-18-years" nonsense has to end, and it has to end yesterday. The laws need to be flexible and not engineered to steamroll the man, and in rare occasions the woman.
/r/MensRights31/12/21 01:41 AM
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Broad question. Whatever, I'll bite: Child custody laws. Specifically those in the U.S., but also ones in my home country. Set the bar higher for women to get custody, stop presuming absent fathers are emotionally distant tyrants (and might just be at work all day supporting the family!), and stop locking men into alimony/child support slavery that financially cripples them. There are numerous examples of what I'm referring to, and a cursory search of Canadian papers with keywords like "suicidal…
/r/MensRights30/12/21 10:31 PM
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Of course there was an argument: He generalizes all women, makes baseless claims about all women, then compares women to monkeys And your response was to shill your incoherent, rambling babble on a website lain out by a colorblind monkey about women beating their partners, copy-pasting from a previous conversation where you did the same thing. Not only are you a poor writer, and bad at arguing a point, your attempt at cultivating a smug exterior in the face of your empty victories is transparent…
/r/MensRights30/12/21 10:07 PM
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It blows my mind that they can literally have serious conversations about killing men and only keeping around a few for breeding, and nobody bats an eyelash, but they said the wrote "bitch" too many times in TRP and MGTOW, and Reddit took the nuclear option on them right away. Completely asymmetrical.
/r/MensRights30/12/21 09:39 PM
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Do you have an adequate rebuttal that isn't distracting someone with a red herring about an irrelevant statistic?
/r/MensRights30/12/21 09:20 PM
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Have most of you seen or been through bad breakups with women? I've heard of more than I've seen. They aren't fun. What is men's rights about, should we not be trying to understand what's at the root of dysfunctional romantic relationships in our societies? How do you differentiate between what's just a good old-fashioned breakdown in communication, formation of irreconcilable differences, passions and interests that eventually pull people apart and situations where men are escaping abuse and ma…
/r/MensRights30/12/21 09:17 PM
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Yeah, I've got a better idea. Don't. This is the worst kind of response to a society that is quietly urging to you off yourself and disappear if they don't see your worth. PROVE your worth. Even if it's just to yourself. Don't let them win.
/r/MensRights30/12/21 09:07 PM
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Women saw it as a threat because MGTOW, despite their trappings of renouncing woman-kind, were always talking about them. MGTOW warns men that women can often be manipulative. MGTOW inures men to some of the tricks unsavoury women use to manipulate them - that's evidence enough for the empty allegation of "misogyny." The bar is low, after all. Sometimes, on occasion, the talk in those spaces would lead to criticism of female behaviour. Sometimes, some men with axes to grind, usually at the fring…
/r/MensRights30/12/21 09:04 PM
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If you engaged the same woman in an argument about women's rights in the States/the Western World versus the rest of the world, and brought up that women in the rest of the world, but specifically in the Indian Subcontinent, Africa and the Middle East have it harder than women in the west (a group that includes HER), I would be willing to literally bet money on her accusing you of using a red herring. I'd bet literal money on it.
/r/MensRights30/12/21 08:56 PM
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Feminists....(are) capable of claiming that women don't reach the same level of brain development I see this a lot. Especially it comes time to play the childish ingenue, just swept up in all those emotions. When it suits a lot of unsavoury women (most of them feminists) their endgame is to have you thinking they're about as intelligent as children, if that's what it takes you decouple them from the consequences of their behaviour. Honestly, it's pretty blood-chilling how dishonest and manipulat…
/r/MensRights30/12/21 08:05 PM
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Her sleazy defense lawyers trying to suggest she was some sort of oblivious damsel swept up in it all as she specifically handled the planning and logistics needed for Epstein to abuse those girls belong in jail right next to her. Stop protecting women from the consequences of their actions.
/r/MensRights30/12/21 08:02 PM
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Of course I know 5'9'' is the average male height. Ask yourself: "how is average height perceived?" Especially by women. That was my point
/r/MensRights29/12/21 10:25 PM
5

Agreed. They're not going to listen because there's nothing in it for them, and having their happy bubble popped is seen as a threat they must use shame and appeals to higher authorities to neutralize.
/r/MensRights29/12/21 08:03 PM
22

Tom Holland is skinny and short as a damn hobbit. If he didn't have the massive status-boost that is being Spiderman, women wouldn't even know he exists.
/r/MensRights29/12/21 08:00 PM
0

Probably better than anything you can conjure up, but sure!
/r/MGTOW227/07/21 04:38 PM
2

While that's probably never going to happen, I like that enthusiasm!
/r/MGTOW227/07/21 04:33 PM
5

Are you serious? That sounds like melodramatic boomer shit. The perfidy of soldiers' wives is a joke unto itself it's so much of an unspoken truth. I'll propose an alternative: instead of demanding even more government and judicial overreach (I thought we were against that kind of thing in here...), how about naive young guys in the military stop committing their lives and livelihoods to the first slut who gives him a kiss in the morning at the drop of a hat? Of all people, men in the forces sho…
/r/MGTOW226/07/21 10:55 PM
9

They won't learn any plots here I wouldn't be so sure. I imagine plenty of women are looking to filter for signs of this early on - mostly among guys who only dabble in the philosophy/community. They're always looking for novel ways to manipulate men - and not every man who partakes in MGTOW-related discussions and lifestyles is 100% monk-mode.
/r/MGTOW226/07/21 10:42 PM
4

"...it takes me literal months to find a girl who's willing to go on a date with me. If I'm seeing one girl, I'm without a doubt putting all of my effort into her (because) I just don't have a choice otherwise..." Meanwhile, you add a zero or two to that bank account, and those same women demanding the world of you...will still demand the world of you, they'll just do it on a looser timeline and be far less insistent on going at "their pace," when it comes to sex.
/r/MGTOW226/07/21 10:39 PM
1

Yup - there is more to life than impressing those animals with ovaries so many of us are ensnared by.
/r/MGTOW222/07/21 01:04 PM
2

Well, let's set a good example! Ha
/r/MGTOW215/07/21 12:21 AM
1

Not true. Just learn to enjoy the act and move on. Accept that women are what women are, and most of the time, that mind-blowing sex was a bargaining tool, or, on occasion, the two of you scratching a mutual itch. Not anybody's fault but the simps, if he pulls and then allows himself to get attached, in spite of knowing the consequences that await him.
/r/MGTOW214/07/21 11:33 PM
1

Those men are pathetic. Big difference. Internalize that. You're better than, and so are most of the rest of us.
/r/MGTOW214/07/21 11:32 PM
2

I think I'm pretty good looking. I know I'm not flawless, but in spite of some minor imperfections and the usual wear and tear, I'm objectively pretty handsome. But since I'm not too far above average height, nor an immaculate 10/10, nor able or willing to be more exciting to be around, a majority of women recoil in disgust at me - that's an important distinction...knowing what you are versus what others perceive you to be.
/r/MGTOW214/07/21 01:12 PM
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