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Sounds like a humblebrag
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 01:16 PM
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Yes that’s how I see it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 10:10 AM
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Because I want young men to admit their failures
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 03:59 AM
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I am in Texas i see Mexicans and Latinos daily and they are superior culturally. Clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 02:40 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 02:39 AM
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Lies
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 12:30 AM
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I made this account in a moment of extreme boredom, and because I work from home and have a super easy job but no one to talk to so I decided to be depressed for a while to feel something
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 08:37 PM
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Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 08:26 PM
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I am a married man i don’t flirt with women it’s inappropriate
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 08:26 PM
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Because your life is guaranteed to be sweet and easy if you marry a good man
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 08:21 PM
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Thank you, I am deeply deeply fucked but at least I can learn a little more about life
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 08:20 PM
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You are so blessed to be a woman. Wake up every day and congratulate yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 08:05 PM
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Please point me to where I can learn more about this. It always felt to me like it was destiny I would be with my wife it felt so familiar
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 08:03 PM
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You’re wrong. Trump will be elected and will become Hitler and people will rise up
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 07:20 PM
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Peter Turchin predicted it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 06:04 PM
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I have land but it won’t be valuable until the USA falls in 2024
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 05:37 PM
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What happened to the ex with the big dick
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 04:27 PM
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Women are very childlike
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 04:19 PM
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Make me a mod
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 04:17 PM
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I want food to be triple or quadruple the price so that people stop being fat and also they stop wasting their money on consumer goods
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 04:06 PM
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The world is presently under the rule of the Whore of Babylon, the United States. This is about to change and the world will be freed. But for now it’s true the world is under oppression and tyranny
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:33 PM
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William Jennings Bryan ran three presidential campaigns on this. The banks and later the FED manipulate exchange rates to where American farmers can’t get the prices they would in a free market
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 02:36 PM
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Yeah I really appreciate that, I think that would be a good direction for the broader culture to go in
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 02:13 PM
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I disagree that it’s the equivalent of sexual assault that’s ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 02:07 PM
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Latino culture is Catholic which is the opposite of puritan.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 02:04 PM
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You are correct in this case
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 02:03 PM
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I appreciate the attitude you take to it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 02:01 PM
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Men do value those things, and it’s a myth that women do them. The myth is that men are messy and disorganized
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 01:57 PM
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They are subsidized a little bit but overall they are held down, in a free market they would be extremely rich but due to financial manipulation they aren’t
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 01:56 PM
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It sucks that I’m not a billionaire too, but I’m not shedding tears over it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 01:14 PM
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You should start following the superior female sex’s guidance. Know your place.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 01:10 PM
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That’s a conspiracy basically to weaken the countryside
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 01:08 PM
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I am not against the scholarships but I think women would have become superior without that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 01:07 PM
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I am more dominant with my wife. This isn’t necessarily about me personally but about most women and most men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 01:05 PM
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That’s how a lot of us see it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 01:03 PM
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They already accept that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 01:03 PM
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I am neither old nor a fatass. It’s a Reddit username
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 01:02 PM
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Look this is just how I feel about things. Truthfully I’m disappointed in life because I thought I was going to be great and it turns out I am not at least not in the way I thought. I had/have a toxic male ego and in disappointment at my life I learned most men feel this way to one degree or another. And so I hope to do away with the myth that men have all these advantages we don’t. We are behind we have to begin with truth to get anywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:56 AM
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I somewhat agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:47 AM
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No, and maybe. It would be nice if we had better families again but I’m not sure what we could do. Maybe provide huge tax incentives to have children while married, and if you divorce you have to pay it back. But I dunno you don’t want to force people who may be in abusive situation to stay. No easy answer
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:45 AM
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You’re right. Unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:40 AM
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You’re right it’s probably 85%
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:39 AM
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I don’t bemoan it I accept it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:37 AM
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Because they are socially awkward and uncool to women. Despite having money
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:36 AM
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You are right. I have a low opinion of men, including myself. I don’t believe we are equal- at this time women are truly better. I noticed a woman managing a trivia session tonight and compared her to a man who did the same thing somewhere else, and it was clear the woman was much more poised, confident and in touch with the crowd. She was simply better It feels obnoxious because it’s stating the uncomfortable truth that most of us don’t want to acknowledge. The truth hurts sometimes I agree wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:33 AM
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Yea, it was due to their abilities to handle extreme and sustained violence between agricultural rivals
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:16 AM
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If they pray and become monks they would stop being bitter
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:15 AM
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I feel it’s unfair but I know it’s not. It’s that way for a reason. Women need to become freed
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:14 AM
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Well, you can interpret it that way if you choose to be uncharitable
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 12:40 AM
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Bear in mind women barely try because they don’t have to
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 12:39 AM
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I accept it but I am not bitter
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 12:38 AM
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I mostly agree with you except that for gen z i don’t think it will be true
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 12:38 AM
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There is some truth there but I still think it’s mainly due to the women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 12:37 AM
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Well; is inequalities unfair ?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 12:36 AM
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I accept my inferiority. It nearly drove me to the end but I am still alive
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 12:35 AM
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You started by telling me it’s my fault for choices I made when I was young, and when I showed that’s not the case you leap to ‘it’s not women’s fault’. The point of my post was to say exactly that - we have no argument there
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 12:34 AM
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Yeah you don’t do it to get somewhere you just do it because you should
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 12:33 AM
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This is the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 12:32 AM
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You should it save my life
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 12:29 AM
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Yeah you’re right for millennials I don’t think for gen z
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 12:29 AM
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I said it wasn’t fair then it’s not now and it will never be . Nowhere do I advocate how things should be
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 11:51 PM
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I didn’t get to go to school I was kept at home
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 09:59 PM
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I am largely controlled by my respect for women. I extremely am overawed by them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 09:59 PM
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Pretty much
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 09:58 PM
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There is you need to be married so it’s not a sin
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 09:57 PM
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Good point
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 09:54 PM
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Im saying be nice to be a good person not because it will get you anywhere it won’t
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 09:52 PM
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I think it does. I’m saying the more essential needs are actually paid more and if you provide a higher need it’s paid less
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 09:23 PM
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I actually agree with you. I think it was relatively better in feudalism. And then I think it actually became terrible during early modern period
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 09:22 PM
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Don’t say that don’t think that. Being evil will not pay, even if it does don’t be evil you will regret it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 09:21 PM
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The leaders are giving the best information
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 09:20 PM
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Why not
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 09:20 PM
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I agree with all those statements. The part I disagree with is treating it like women are evil and doing this intentionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 09:20 PM
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You can
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 09:19 PM
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I don’t disagree but it’s what society says
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 09:19 PM
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Gotcha. I am a traditionalist to some extent but I am definitely black pill
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 09:18 PM
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I do have friends. What I said was no real friends. I have a close group guys I talk to every day on Discord. But that’s online so I don’t count it. And I have a young adults group at church I see a couple times a week for the past two years, but only twice did I see any of the guys outside that so I concluded they’re not real friends. Also I am not in STEM. So you made a lot of assumptions about me there
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 09:17 PM
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I don’t understand what you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 09:01 PM
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Debatable. Consider how service workers make less even though the value they provide is higher up Maslows hierarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 09:01 PM
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I hope you’re married then
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:53 PM
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Nah if you don’t have leaders you don’t have a hierarchy men can’t make it without a leader
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:53 PM
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Well there’s no need to be hateful. I am going to therapy in one hour actually. However this is like a therapy for me to discuss the ruin of men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:49 PM
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Women are not against you, they rose in power and value just naturally like a law of gravity. Only the threat of violence had kept them back, but as soon as it became safe immediately women excelled over men because they are better in every way except physical strength
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:45 PM
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Patriarchy can only exist under extreme pressure of violent competition. Due to technology this won’t happen. So it immediately fell apart due to the much greater psychological power of women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:43 PM
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Im just saying
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:39 PM
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Are you a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:39 PM
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I don’t think I ever saw Fresh or T. Who is the leader on YouTube now
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:38 PM
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Did you get a sex change
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:38 PM
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I think we didn’t appreciate them enough for motherhood and womanhood
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:37 PM
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It’s reaching the point there are almost not any men on earth worthy of the models, they will end up single because there’s no man high enough value
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:36 PM
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He changed his brand towards racism. He used to be a leading red pill guy several years ago
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:35 PM
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No, you desire her she doesn’t desire you. Therefore you’re the one that has the need and is inferior. In a civilized and safe society her physical weakness is a very minor factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:34 PM
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That’s not adding enough value to where she feels like having sex with you. She will rightfully end up feeling taken advantage of if that’s all she’s getting out of it. It’s not that I have nothing to offer it’s that women deserve more than something minimal
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:33 PM
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They don’t have to be productive when we have oil to burn for energy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:31 PM
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I somewhat disagree, I think in combination with trans women they can do it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:13 PM
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Sure it can be. I’m talking about how things are now not how they could be different
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:10 PM
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Men naturally love women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:09 PM
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That’s probably true, and patronized as well
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:09 PM
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That’s probably true, and patronized as well
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:09 PM
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She is superior over you because she has a pussy. That’s just the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:08 PM
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This is what I have seen from on and off attention to red pill stuff for years. Stefan Molyeneux is one who comes to mind
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:07 PM
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Men have a diminished place there’s no question. I am about to be 30 and I AM married by a miracle. But I was supposed to be a high performer, top 10% academic performance etc, but I have no real friends and am dislocated from society despite years of constant struggle to find a place. If I am barely making it thanks to a special favor from Jesus, i ask myself what is happening to the average man? Utterly wrecked
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:06 PM
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Yes, they are still superior to you though because they have a pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:03 PM
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I don’t remember, I watched a lot of Coach Redpill a few years ago though
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:59 PM
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They are angry that it’s unfair
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:56 PM
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Yea the women’s sexual power is so great that their mere presence grinds things to a halt
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:56 PM
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I think you’re correct about that. The blue pill is the original sin that sets things up wrong. Instead we should teach boys that life is hard, that girls are more valuable but that they can possibly gain a woman’s favor but they must never take that for granted and must see their disadvantage and recognize to work through it every day as a fact of nature
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:55 PM
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Top men who are hot love women they don’t hate them. You would only hate women out of bitterness you can’t have one It’s the most important, better than talent by far. Talent is overrated, the gift of beauty is much more significant
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:52 PM
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No, you will only be a cuck if you are a pervert. Accept your place with dignity and you will never be a cuck
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:50 PM
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That will soon change, women will run both in fact they are nearly there
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:49 PM
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They usually act angry and rage
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:49 PM
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They don’t say it’s fair they complain that it’s not. Which assumes it should be fair
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:48 PM
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In Afghanistan they recognize that marriage should be arranged
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:48 PM
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True. This is a very sick country
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:47 PM
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Where do you place yourself ? I see you’re married
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:47 PM
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For every one high performing man there is ten solid performing women, and maybe another two solid performing men, and then seven low quality men. When you stack up the numbers next to each other there is this large gap of solid performing women without a man at their level or above who won’t take the lower quality men left to them. This leads to unstable family relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:12 PM
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Neither, it is about liberalism in combination with modern technology
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:03 PM
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Men don’t value fairness in the sense of equality. Liberalism which is our society ideology values it. And the reason men could not just take things is it would violate liberal society norms
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:03 PM
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No, if a man can be married then he’s doing fine. I am married and I am doing as well as a man can. But I feel bad for all the other men who are ruined
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 06:54 PM
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Is the black pill accepting or are they bitter
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 06:53 PM
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Not many of those, but those that exist it’s because of morbid obesity or severe personality disorders.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 06:52 PM
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Young women aren’t at a disadvantage in dating, they are at an overwhelming advantage
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 06:47 PM
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This is the world I see out of my window. What do you see ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 06:39 PM
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Men’s roles in the sense of achievement. Women can adequately achieve on their own while still having children. In that situation men must either be an outstanding achiever or in some other way add value for the woman, however in either case she can make it on her own.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 06:38 PM
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You are correct. And now that capability is only minimally important men are ruined by that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 06:28 PM
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Exactly. It’s literally never supposed to be easy and equal. If someone isn’t getting eliminated then it’s not working
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 06:14 PM
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My belief is it would change nothing due to that these same dynamics already exist with boobs being mostly covered. Going natural would just increase women’s happiness because they would feel more confident. Yes if men harassed them that would ruin a great thing, the men have to be sternly warned not to
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 03:27 PM
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It would be good for everyone. Much healthier
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:13 AM
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No, porn is wrong and degrading
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 12:57 AM
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Oh sure there are some dancers or whatever who are a little bit better but it’s somewhat overplayed, animals with no IQ are able to do it you stick it in and you do what feels good
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 12:36 AM
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I am going to delete this Reddit account and make another one. I went to Catholic confession and am wiped clean of sin so I have clarity of vision now
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 11:14 PM
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For real though ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 10:57 PM
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It’s very wrong. We should never shame women for promiscuity but we should always shame men for it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:45 PM
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They are promoting freedom and beauty
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:41 PM
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It should be ok in all settings whatsoever
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:41 PM
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It makes it worse because it makes it seem even more unfair
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:37 PM
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You are technically correct, but you know nobody is going to accept that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:36 PM
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How about me, I am happily married but I feel like an incel I identify with them because I feel like a loser and unattractive- again I am married and I had a girlfriend I had sex with before and a friend with benefits, but I feel like shit and a loser because I have no friends and feel isolated
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:31 PM
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I would say so, yes. You see it right now with the Me Too stuff. That has some excesses, but the true points about it are having a huge impact on men being more respectful
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:28 PM
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Not immediately no. But you’ll notice all the oppressive regulations put on people in order to make agriculture work are falling off rapidly. Clothes for people in warmer climates is one of these.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:13 PM
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Don’t be so judgmental of people you don’t know their hearts
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:12 PM
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Men tend to pose a danger to women due to their different sexual behaviors. That’s clear, and it would have to be changed in order for standards of dress to change
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:56 PM
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I want children, but my wife hasn’t been able to give them to me. Though it will be sad I won’t leave her or have an affair to have children. Even though I want children, I cannot abandon my wife in order to achieve that. She did not hide infertility it just hasn't happened so it won't be her fault
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:51 PM
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No, sex is great but most of life is great
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:47 PM
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It might take some time but it existed once so it can exist again
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:31 PM
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Yes, male and female sexual behaviors differ though
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:15 PM
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It has to be the norm and men have to be instructed they aren’t allowed to be creepy or act like it’s something sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:14 PM
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Actually I am an exception. I got a full scholarship and that’s how I was able to do it. Not one single other person I grew up with did that. What they would do especially with the girls was to try and get them married off very early at 18 or 19 and get pregnant right away so that they would be caught up in the lifestyle and find it hard to get away before they realized there was any other choice. Cults engage in grooming type behaviors frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:13 PM
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Lots of people are controlled by religious cults. I know because I grew up in one. We were not allowed smart phones, and internet use was limited to laptops being monitored by parents. You are severely naive if you think everyone out there is a humane liberal just looking to support freedom of choices
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:45 PM
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How can people make a free choice if their parents isolate them at home and only allow them contact with other people in that specific religious sub culture ? In those cases those people didn’t get a choice because they were kept under control every step of the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:29 PM
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Now I understand where you are coming from and why you’re so worried about society. I grew up very similar no doubt with American southern evangelical society, and I completely can’t stand it either and rejected it completely. That’s why I am advocating the opposite of modesty culture now, I don’t think their modesty culture did anything. I am 29, trust me I get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:16 PM
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Most indigenous societies do it, we would be happier and healthier
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:10 PM
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Well, I saw that picture of Agnes Sorel and that’s what set me off in this direction. I was stunned that she could dress that way in the 1450s and I thought wow that goes to show that the ‘progressives’ like to slap themselves on the back when they’re just prudes and puritans and what they do is joyless and doesn’t go nearly far enough to be worth doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:08 PM
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We are going to have to agree to disagree then. However I do respect where you are coming from, good luck
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:03 PM
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You pretty much have denied that society exists or influences your choices, and asserted you exist in a vacuum. Is that denial and that assertion reasonable ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 06:53 PM
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Yea, I think that’s due to men being dangerous and cat calling and being violent. I really do
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 06:51 PM
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I am actively against the idea of women covering their breasts. But neither one of us is in the majority unfortunately. I think you’re doing a little better though because there are a lot of people against marriage, whereas I could never dare even suggest to my wife she go topless because it would be impossible where we live
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 06:45 PM
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Yeah and that’s a recent thing. I remember it when I was a kid in the 90s, and now it’s come back. That’s awesome it’s a great improvement. There is freedom and then there is norms. You can’t talk about the norm forcing women to not cover when you don’t talk about the actually existing norm forcing them to cover.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 06:41 PM
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I like to question narratives. The standard narrative is that we are so free today compared to before in history. So I ask, what if that’s not true ? And look at things that way. Neither narrative is completely true or completely false
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 06:39 PM
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Well I applaud you for having four beautiful babies, and even though ideally you would be married it’s not an ideal world and I understand how that can be. You sound like a great person, I think you have adapted to understanding how slow moving society is and that’s why you are making the points you are. I’m not saying it will happen overnight for women to be more comfortable to relax standards, I just hope it would happen if you get me. And I do think the safety issues are why it hasn’t, and if…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 06:32 PM
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Normal people would probably work harder to stay in better shape if they knew everyone would be seeing their stomach. I know I would. I am disappointed
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 06:29 PM
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You may be a stripper but you’re a super traditional conservative woman as well. It’s unbelievable to me how absurd attitudes are toward more freedom in dress.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 06:24 PM
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I don’t understand why you are so weirdly conservative about dress
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 06:21 PM
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They cover up way too much as it is. I have never seen a whore
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 06:06 PM
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Still though, you don’t see anything like that nowadays. Nowadays women dress more and more conservatively, all while pretending to be ultra progressive and liberated because that’s what our society tells itself it is. I truly wish there was much more beautiful fashion than there is. Instead people wear shapeless hoodies and pajamas. It’s so sad we can do so much better
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 06:05 PM
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Well, let’s apply this same logic to your face. Do you also wear a veil, and take it off for certain men for money? That would truly be bizarre, and a bizarre question to ask me why I think I have a right to see your face. I would respond ‘uhhh ok I guess you can go ahead and wear a veil’ and wonder where the strange idea came from. Likewise with breasts - covering them or not covering them is a social norm. Because covering them is a social norm in our society, they become extremely fetishized …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 06:02 PM
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It has everything to do with the norms of society that it would occur to you that there is something special about your breasts that they need to be covered. The proof of this is that there are many societies where women don’t cover their breasts. In fact one commenter noted to this day in his rural Xhosa culture the women do not cover their breasts. Therefore we can easily see it definitely has to do with the society rather than the individual
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:48 PM
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Yes I agree these are the big problems. Men are accustomed to weird fetish behaviors and too many commit evil against women. I see it as a defensive reaction that women don’t feel comfortable with this, and if they did it would be because we had a better society and men behaved much much better than they do now. Hence why I tie it to freedom and respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:44 PM
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What you want is to fit into the norm of your society. Well of course no one wants to stick out and be inappropriate. That doesn’t relate to what the norm of society should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:37 PM
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How would you feel about wearing a niqab (full Islamic covering ) - would you want to do that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:35 PM
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Women think good looking men are good in bed, absent if he has ED or seriously messes up
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:34 PM
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Are you a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:31 PM
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I won’t respond further because pretending everything we have now is what women have chosen is so silly it’s not worth responding to someone who argues that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:11 PM
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How do you know how women would behave? You don’t. But there is good reason to think people would wear less clothes if they could. There are many studies that it’s better for mental health. You don’t get special authority to not be called out for your bad arguments simply because you’re a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:04 PM
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I didn’t tell ‘women’ I told you you have internalized misogyny as shown by how you excuse men for their bad behavior and say that’s ok, women should just cover up. Classic blaming the victim mentality
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:55 PM
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Your views reflect internalized misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:39 PM
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Well I don’t have a problem with it but I don’t think it’s possible. I think that would just be too much. I could imagine walking around shirtless no problem and getting used to that but I could not imagine going nude
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:36 PM
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The norms suggest it would be unacceptable as you yourself can see in the comments. It would have to be made safe for women to do it. I feel like you’re arguing against me for the sake of doing so as I’m advocating the position of safety respect and freedom for women so you can’t really argue against it except to say men will misbehave which is exactly my point of what needs to change
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:28 PM
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while breasts aren’t inherently sexual genitalia are. We aren’t even able to cope with the idea of not covering breasts right now so that’s not at all a viable discussion even
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:25 PM
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It’s a culture of lack of respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:24 PM
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I’m arguing it’s perfectly viable for women to not cover their breasts, would you agree
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:23 PM
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By the end of the century I guarantee you both men and women will go topless in many many social contexts and it will be totally normal. It only takes someone to point out how ridiculous our conservative standards of dress are compared to what we claim we are like
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:02 PM
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Well sure we are going to be attracted but there’s no reason uncovered breasts are going to make or break us. Probably would lead to less sexualizing of women if anything
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:59 PM
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Men sexualizing women is the problem then, not the covering up. If covering up worked then surely Muhammad has it right. But we know that Islamic country dress code leads to worse outcomes not better. And I know you don’t think that would work. Yet you do think our current standards work - see that makes no sense. I would argue covering things up and hiding them leads to weird fetishes and more problems. Probably not covering anything would lead to men stopping sexualizing women, but worst case …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:57 PM
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The Quran says in the pre Islamic Middle East women would not cover their breasts
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:51 PM
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Exactly you’re proving my point. Women feel forced to cover up by men making them uncomfortable and sexualizing them. Therefore they aren’t free. Men must stop that and let women to be free and comfortable to not cover up. That’s the point of my OP
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:50 PM
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It really is
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:45 PM
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Nah I don’t think so
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:44 PM
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I wrote that because his comment was implying I had some nefarious motives, and I am explaining I do not. I do a good job not indulging in lustful behavior. I agree that we would not want people drooling and misbehaving that’s why I explained greater respect would go hand in hand Let me put this to you, do you advocate that women should wear a hijab and Islamic standard dress ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:43 PM
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By the letter yea, but the social norms forbid it. I generally don’t like lgbt activism but the one lesbian who took her shirt off at the White House should be applauded
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:34 PM
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Because it would be normal. Well you wouldn’t notice them to any greater degree than you notice them today. Put it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:33 PM
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It would be a great thing if they felt free to do that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:32 PM
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It has worked before. One commenter who is Xhosa said he literally grew up this way. And it’s still the case in rural areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:22 PM
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People know how to behave exactly as much as they’re demanded to. People are just being closed minded about this
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:21 PM
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Women should be free to uncover
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:20 PM
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There’s no real freedom in dress and style. In the fourteenth century the kings mistress Agnes Sorel showed her boobs. During many period of early modern women didn’t cover nearly as much as today. What annoys me is how we pretend we are so modern and progressive when we are actually just slightly relaxed Victorians
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:20 PM
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I don’t have a daughter. This is bait
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:18 PM
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So does your subtitle
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:17 PM
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Yes because men don’t respect women enough. For this to work men would have to be sternly warned to behave and not make the women feel uncomfortable
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:16 PM
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It would give women full freedom to not be ashamed, men also
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:16 PM
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Men should not need to wear shirts either, especially in hot climates like mine where it’s ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:15 PM
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You would not even notice them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:14 PM
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I want to normalize it and see if if would be an improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:14 PM
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It’s a part of her body for feeding babies. And that’s my Question. If we can’t have bare breasts why can we have bare legs ? Ankles ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:13 PM
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People still know how to behave there no ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:12 PM
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I am not trying to be a liberal I am a good Catholic. Lust is a sin
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:11 PM
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It occurs in many societies no problem. It’s really not DNA. You get aroused by a sexual context not by the breast in and of itself. If breasts are normal and it’s a normal context your arousal response would not be triggered
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:58 PM
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They don’t gain sexual harassment that must be strictly prohibited or the women would not feel comfortable. In fact the absence of sexual harassment is what makes them comfortable to cover up less. Rather than put it as expose more it’s really covering up less. And it’s freedom to have comfort in yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:56 PM
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There is nothing inherently sexual in a woman’s breast. It’s merely in the expectation of the beholder. If it was the every day standard then it would be in no way sexual
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:42 PM
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This is the argument for the hijab too
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:35 PM
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Well you are right as it is today. Because our society is deeply sexist and hates the female body. But all these guys exist right now with standards what they are and they also existed during Victorian era too. Josh Duggar was a horrible molester when his sisters were covered head to toe. Sexual crimes exist just as much or more in Muslim countries. It’s not about how the women dress, actually if they dress more conservative if anything it’s probably a sign the men behave worse
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:33 PM
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No modesty is if you are trying to be seductive, if you aren’t you are being modest however you dress
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:30 PM
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You can be modest without covering your body
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:24 PM
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I love to see women be happy and free it gives me a great feeling
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:23 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:21 PM
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Lol Yeah not in an instant, but the fact is lots of societies women showed their boobs. It’s very viable. And it would be awesome to move in that direction
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:19 PM
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Yeah well Islam is the worst about this it’s ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:18 PM
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Respect women they are beautiful
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:16 PM
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Why not
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:15 PM
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I buy the most beautiful clothes for my wife and am happy to see her look so beautiful, bare breasted isn’t an option these days but if it was I would definitely love that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:15 PM
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Yes modesty codes like this is about shaming men’s bodies as well, it’s just not as much the focus because men are allowed to bare their chests in many more contexts, but even so neither sex should be constrained in this way
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:14 PM
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Fuck the left
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 04:00 AM
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He’s lying to you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 04:00 AM
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You’re right about ten years ago it was heavily pretended that men and women are the same
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 03:53 AM
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Because men are FUCKED
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 02:42 AM
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Nah it is very hard
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 06:43 PM
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Given Russell Brand was once one of these extraordinary men and got hit by MeToo, I disagree. I understand where you’re coming from, but Russell Brand makes clear no man is beyond the reach of these accusations. Straight men, all of them are categorically under threat. And to be honest so are gay men see Kevin Spacey. No one is really off limits now except Joe Biden lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:45 PM
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It would obviously be bigotry lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:42 PM
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You’re telling me to die. Go read suicide watch. And I’m already married but the hate of successful people like you hurts
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:22 AM
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I tried and failed. Stop trying to blame people for not making crazy level efforts for things their grandparents got pre made.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:07 AM
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I did this for two years and didn’t make a single friend
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:03 AM
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Couples are over. Relationships are over. Men are finished. Women are finished.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 09:37 PM
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Men don’t have friends unless they’re gay they’re too busy being interested in women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 03:08 AM
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You are being eaten by the forces that created you as it’s revealed that actually men are the oppressed ones
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 03:07 AM
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Hear that boys? If you can’t get you a girl at the small town spring festival (where people cluster in their families and probably don’t approach each other) then you’re out of luck I am so glad I already am married
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 07:29 PM
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Fortunately this is already happening, soon all the boys will get sex changes as well and we will have a female worker bee society
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 07:25 PM
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Autistic traits are unequivocally undesirable to both men and women. But autistic women still get partners whereas autistic men do not
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 04:23 AM
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You’re exactly correct
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 04:19 AM
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Men are weak and dying
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 01:02 AM
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Men have a longer shelf life all things being equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:51 PM
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Agreed. This is just another NPC who doesn’t know why they do what they do
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 03:48 PM
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Bad decision
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 03:34 PM
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Society sucks
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 03:30 PM
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Toxic individual here
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 03:24 PM
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Lol it all is bad. How about fix it instead of normalize what is abnormal
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 03:48 AM
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Men are FUCKED
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 03:47 AM
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That women want you to just be a polite gentleman and then you will find a wife
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:31 AM
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He won’t leave men don’t do that anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 06:10 PM
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