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I agree. And to be fair when I re-read OP's post, I can see that the distinction of hookup/relationship material was a fair point to make because they started by saying "Women like sweet/nice guys. Oh really?" I don't think they really disproved that at all, given this distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 10:12 AM
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Good point but I actually think your example about male fantasies of promiscuous women might still say something about male sexual desire. It seems contradictory because that's not what men generally want in a long-term relationship but it could be an example of having a desire for certain traits in a short-term fling that differ from a long term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 08:50 AM
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OP is just saying that these fantasies probably say something about what women desire, not necessarily that they want the fantasy to actually happen (an obvious example is rape fantasies). In light of that, I feel like your example at the end of your post kind of defeats your point before it, as in the fantasies associated with bdsm did say something about the sexual desires of people in the bdsm community.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 07:21 AM
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To say romantic fantasies are not realistic so it doesn't reflect real life is oversimplifying. It doesn't need to be realistic for it to tell us something about what people desire. I would imagine Hentai is similar to regular porn, in that the subjects often have certain traits that viewers want in women irl (large breasts for western viewers, neotenous features, etc). It makes a lot of sense to make their characters attractive to a large amount of viewers, unless they're appealing to a niche a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 07:04 AM
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How has the "dating apps are not real life" argument not died yet? https://np.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/18h7k9g/how_heterosexual_couples_met_oc/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 08:03 AM
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I think redpill people would argue that while there is some randomness, there are some patterns in social norms worldwide, and one could say these are caused by biology. Like social norms around infidelity/chastity for women might be a manifestation of male desire for paternity certainty. The idea is men are instinctively disgusted by promiscuous women because they would have been more likely to commit paternity fraud in the past. In fairness, it might not be so simple because while they are def…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 01:04 AM
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I'm not sure that red pill people necessarily believe in male/female brains; one just needs to believe they are different enough on average to explain a lot of social phenomena but there can still be overlap. There is also some overlap in strength and height between the sexes but the fact that males are generally taller/stronger is partly why females are generally more cautious at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 12:33 AM
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Don't watch porn, don't masturbate to people you are attracted to in your own life. This isn't leaving very many options for single or virgin men to get sexual gratification, unless they're able to masturbate without thinking of anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 07:40 PM
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Fair enough, but I am not generalizing to women irl. I am only speaking about reddit, especially this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 06:27 AM
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I was getting at the idea that men's preference for porn with younger women is a manifestation of their sexual preferences. To be fair, a lot of women's disgust for age gap relationships where the male is older also has to do with culture i.e. gender roles, like the perception of younger women being more vulnerable and easy to manipulate. I do have to say there is something odd about this belief being so pervasive when I see women all the time on reddit talking about how much more mature, respon…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 04:35 AM
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There are many feminists on this subreddit and feminist subreddits like twoxchromosomes that are anti-porn. I agree that it's wrong to think that the vast majority of feminists are anti-porn though. It's a controversial issue among feminists. I also have doubts that the manosphere people have much interest in selling the idea that feminists are anti-porn, since they also tend to be anti-porn for different reasons (they view it as weakness and a source of social decline).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 03:51 AM
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I think a lot of women on reddit are disgusted by male sexuality. It is very easy for me to pull up posts about how women are disgusted by the idea of men watching teen porn (try it yourself) and many see it as a dealbreaker/red flag. In reality, teen porn is easily one of the most popular porn genres, even among older men. Probably a majority of men have watched it at some point. I think a big reason why they are disgusted is because women do not generally prefer men younger than themselves. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 03:18 AM
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I think that's a poor analogy since most people (besides red pillers) consider it bad that women feel obligated to have kids, even if they are not actually forced. Your analogy could be used to argue that "while men are not forced to approach, the feeling of obligation could be a societal problem nonetheless."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 02:47 AM
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It is fine for women to lament that most men can't meet their standards, but it's common to be unnecessarily cruel and insulting about it. We see these things all the time on this subreddit. If that is what happened here, then I am not surprised why OP felt defensive and unless their comment history makes it obvious, you shouldn't default to thinking OP is a hardcore misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 12:46 PM
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That's a fair point, but kind of nitpicky. My guess is they probably made that comment assuming a dual income where there should be some fair division of housework. I think the important point is that most people agree that it would be an unreasonable standard to insist on only dating a partner if they will pull most of the weight in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 11:37 AM
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Of course there will be women willing to do that in some cases. They still think that's inherently an unreasonable standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 11:23 AM
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Breaking news! Most men like seeing naked women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:08 AM
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Cognitive biases can make an issue look smaller/bigger than it really is. Also, the paternity test is only a few hundred dollars to prevent a few percent chance of either living a lie or experiencing a life-altering revelation many years in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 11:03 PM
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I wouldn't do a paternity test if I thought it could ruin a relationship and there was no suspicion. If there is no offense taken though, it's a pretty reasonable thing to do. From my perspective as a risk-averse person, it's only a few hundred dollars to avoid a few percent chance of a seriously life-altering revelation. tbf the few percent stats may be overly pessimistic in some cases (like for more educated or wealthy couples or something like that) but I don't think there is much information…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:54 PM
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You're probably right about the problem really being lack of social skills. I just mean it's really common for blue pill people on this subreddit and feminists online to blame misogyny for lack of success in dating, which is silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:07 PM
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I'm surprised that, as an active commenter on this subreddit, you haven't seen a lot of people say both of these things
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 05:54 PM
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How do you know most teenage boys who are shutins are redpill? That's a bold claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 05:40 PM
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Many or even most women feeling offended by their partner asking for a paternity test is completely understandable in the present state of paternity testing, where it's pretty uncommon and mainly done when there is genuine suspicion of paternity fraud. However, I think this can be greatly diminished if it became normalized, like in the business contracts example given above. And I don't think that it should be mandatory; it's more like the test gives certain rights and privileges to both parties…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 12:18 AM
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"it is unreal how many men we have to filter out who are just completely toxic and incapable of talking" Forgive me for interpreting this as singling men out as distinctly bad rather than you being a misanthrope. I was so dumb and angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:02 PM
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"large majority of them that are just insufferable" Imagine if someone said this about women. They'd be cut off at "majority" and then called an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 02:46 PM
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I think that's a poor analogy because the point is many OF addicts are not like regular consumers who might complain about low quality goods; many think the whole enterprise is evil and yet they partake in it. The proper parallel in the case of a restaurant customer is a person who regularly goes to restaurants, even though they think the whole idea of restaurants is evil and so are the people who work in them. A better analogy would be a drug addict (like an OF addict) who thinks drug dealers (…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 12:01 AM
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I think this article makes a lot of good points. There does seem to be more overlap in severity than I expected, probably because the Western framing and naming of these issues biased me. I'm pretty sure the most severe forms of FGM should just flat out be illegal in the US (just like how doctors should not provide euthanasia to mentally unstable people), but I'm not so sure about the most minor forms, as long as they're consensual. Sure there's greater evidence of medical benefits for circumcis…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 06:45 AM
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The situations are pretty different so I don't think you can judge MRAs as caring less about circumcision than feminists do about FGM from their lack of success in ending circumcision. FGM was pretty easy to make illegal because there's basically no opposition to banning FGM in the US, Circumcision is very popular in the US and common in many Western countries, so that would naturally make it a lot more difficult to ban it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 10:35 AM
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Incidentally, I was reading a wikipedia article about female genital mutilation and it said that it is mainly performed by women. According to Pew Research, 64% of women believe abortion should be legal in all/most cases, compared to 61% of men. The Gallup poll numbers for abortion support aren't as close but it does show women and men's support for abortion were both pretty similar until the past couple years (and I suspect a lot of the increase for women was because of the Dobbs decision). Any…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:58 AM
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I seriously doubt that but I'm willing to read some sources on how that might be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:31 AM
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It's an oversimplification to suggest that things are the way they are mainly because women are better at protecting other women. Preserving the modesty of women/girls is an issue in which patriarchal men and feminists are often in agreement, for different reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:24 AM
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I agree that the safety of a woman is generally considered more important and attacks on a woman's femininity are taken more seriously than attacks on a man's masculinity. I think there are good arguments against circumcision but I'll be honest in saying that I really don't think it's that bad, certainly nowhere near as bad as FGM. I think feminists and red pill people could both find many aspects of life in which men or women are worse off than the opposite gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:20 AM
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First off, I'm not super concerned about this situation. If the pregnancy were caused by birth control failure, I would think less negatively of it because evidently that means there was no intent to have kids to begin with. I just don't like the idea of having kids with a random "high quality male". If an old man wanted to have kids with basically a random young, intelligent woman and they agreed to do it, most people would find that distasteful and so would I. I guess the situation isn't total…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 09:00 AM
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I agree it's not that different from a sperm bank. I am uncomfortable with the idea but I don't think it's that bad yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 11:32 AM
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I don't think they are mainly appalled that an older woman has sex with younger man. If I had to guess, it's the part about having a kid with a man with whom you have no emotional connection, just because you think they will have high quality sperm.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 10:52 AM
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I am sorry to hear about what happened to your husband. This should be a top comment imo but when it comes to reddit, you usually need to scroll down pretty deep to read the good comments. About accountability, I am pretty convinced that there is a strong bias in favour of young women on subreddits like AITA. Back when I used that subreddit, I saw a lot of this kind of bias, where a man who isn't carrying his weight is a loser/deadbeat, while a women who is doing the same might just be depressed…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 10:36 AM
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It's fine to not have a degree and to be ok with a partner who doesn't have one. This person is just very judgmental and toxic. Who calls random people "worthless losers"?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 10:33 PM
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tbf they said "or ambition" so it doesn't necessarily leave out a person with ambition but no degree
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 10:18 PM
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ianal so I will take your word for it. gl on your exam.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 08:03 AM
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I understand that but I think it's very possible she actually did attempted murder even though there is reasonable doubt. If you meant it was a stretch to believe she committed attempted murder beyond reasonable doubt, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 07:40 AM
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I don't see why attempted murder is a big stretch. I think that is actually a pretty reasonable conclusion but I'll admit that after reading more about the case, I believe there is reasonable doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 07:21 AM
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That's something I never really agreed with. If someone obviously is attempting murder but fails, they should not get a lighter sentence than if they had succeeded in my opinion. In my eyes, she got lucky that this person survived and that should have very little bearing on her sentence. tbf the Australian legal system probably agrees with you on this point though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 06:59 AM
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Lifetime of physical damage is putting it lightly. That's attempted murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 06:33 AM
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would be amazed if anyone thought 7.5 years was reasonable or even too low
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 06:31 AM
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You said women are biologically superior. In fairness, I think most of what you wrote is probably true to some extent but that type of wording is offensive and a man who says men are biologically superior because of their physical strength would rightly be seen as a chauvinist. The nazism part I'll admit was a bit over the top. tbh that fact about the SAT doesn't really disprove what you said. I mentioned that more out of annoyance at how the idea that boys are academically less competent is jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 01:35 AM
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I addressed your points by saying this "biological resilience" is irrelevant to academic performance unless proven otherwise. What you're saying makes as much sense as me saying "men are stronger" as an explanation for them being better/worse students.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 12:58 AM
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That definitely explains why boys do better on the SAT than girls, and they especially do better on the math SAT. You're probably going to say that test is sexist or something but then you give away the game: cherrypick things that girls outperform boys at (most of which seem pretty irrelevant to academic performance) while calling any counterexamples sexist. Congrats on reinventing nazism though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 12:43 AM
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unless you are talking about standardized tests, one reason may be possibly higher academic standards in boys schools than mixed schools
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 12:28 AM
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"And if that's their biggest problem in life its a very small problem." Very big if
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 07:21 PM
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It's a matter of degree. Most of the time physical bullying does not rise to the level of severity where peoples lives are threatened. Being unpopular and ostracized as a kid probably has more negative psychological impacts than getting into a couple fights or being shoved into lockers (which are more common forms of physical bullying) but it's not as bad as severe cases of physical bullying, like getting rocks thrown at you or getting sexually harassed/assaulted.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 08:23 PM
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Why are you trolling like this? It's obvious you are trying to rage bait red pillers by bringing up "high school degree, working as a bartender", just like you did with the single mother in one of your previous posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 08:57 AM
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It amazes me that you would take greater issue with my comment than the one above. I am not really sure what it means to do things that show that I care about men. Do you mean like volunteering for men's domestic violence shelters? If so, your standard would be pretty ridiculous, since it would imply that most women don't care about other women either. If it's smaller things like giving money to the homeless/charity or being sympathetic and patient on the rare occasion that someone wants to conf…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 06:41 AM
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What is the difference between this and "as a white person, I'm not going to stress over black on black violence (even if the victims are innocent)"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 05:09 AM
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Imagine if you replaced "men" here with "women" or any other minority group. You are a misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 04:37 AM
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This statistic is not very relevant to the issue of crime rates of children with single mothers/fathers. It's a pretty big leap to think because most criminals are men, single fathers (vast majority of whom are not even criminals) would be more likely than single mothers to have children who end up committing crime. I think a better critique is that single fathers (and hence their children) tend to be in more privileged demographics. For example, in the US, single fathers are mostly white men, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:27 AM
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Fair enough. I think it's ok to only want to date tall men, but I think most would agree that looking exclusively for 6'1+ is a high standard. I also think the top comment is right, in that you shouldn't trash men for failing to meet standards that are actually pretty high and often out of men's control.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 09:00 PM
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"Why does it bother you if someone thinks they are better than you or not?" What is so weird about people not liking to be looked down upon? It's so annoying to me this idea that there is something wrong with you if you are sensitive to what other people think about you. I honestly think it is fine for a woman to have high standards in looking for a partner but I think it is pretty disrespectful when people say online dating for women is like finding fresh water in a swamp or that the standards …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 08:29 AM
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Immigrants are roughly 12% of the Scandinavian population. Even if they were like 8 inches shorter (which is a completely insane steelman), they'd only bring down the average by like 1 inch.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 08:13 AM
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That story of a 25 year old male virgin probably describes a very small percentage of them. The stereotype that men who are shy around women are incels comes from this vocal minority giving virgin men, of which incels are a relatively small subset, a bad name.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:56 AM
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If he's not a troll, he is one of the worst posters I've seen on this subreddit. At least most commenters on this subreddit try to make an argument for their side, even if they are being passive aggressive in doing so. This person basically cannot make any argument except for pure snark and condescension.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 07:57 AM
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Right wing people are very good at manufacturing rage bait stories (transgender grooming, transgender sports, fat people on airplanes, cock carousel into settling for a beta male, 20% of men getting 80% of women, immigrants causing massive amounts of crime) to rile people up, whether it be about immigrants, women, LGBT, etc. So much anger nowadays I think comes from stories that aren't even real or are greatly exaggerated in importance or frequency.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:30 PM
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Thanks. When I think of men fighting in wars, working in mines or doing construction in extremely dangerous conditions, it disturbs me how expendable men's lives are, especially in poorer countries. What you said about rape is very politically incorrect, but I agree. In fairness, I don't know how to go about proving something like that, but I think it's a question worth asking. Accusations of rape or sexual impropriety have been used in the past to justify heinous crimes like the murder of Emmet…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 08:28 AM
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"It's not violence from women." So we shouldn't care about black on black violence because that's their problem too?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 10:20 PM
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How should these hot women and simps act in your perfect world?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 12:01 PM
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I don't actually know that the issue in and of itself is super important to redpillers. I think the broader context of this debate is redpill people want to use this as evidence that women are in general too affected by social desirability bias to be trustworthy when describing their preferences when it comes dating men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:09 PM
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I am pressed for time so I cannot make as detailed a response as I'd like. I'll only talk about the first part for now. I think it is a weak defense to say deporting protestors like Mahmoud Khalil is not authoritarian just because it is not authoritarian under your strict definition. But even then, I think you misunderstand the situation because these cases do not even apply to your strict definition. It is nothing like someone committed a murder for which they got punished, because that is what…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 06:45 AM
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I am not a lawyer so I cannot say. But just because it is legal doesn't mean it isn't authoritarian. Cancelling people is legal too but you probably consider cancel culture to be authoritarian. Please explain to me why you think it is not authoritarian. "Andrés Antillano, a criminology professor at the Central University of Venezuela, has spent much of his career studying Tren de Aragua. “This is the first time I’ve ever encountered any reference to the significance of tattoos,” he told me. He c…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 08:48 PM
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When did Biden do that? No one has ever been arrested in the US for misgendering, as far as I'm aware.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 06:29 PM
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Detaining and attempting to deport pro-Palestinian protestors and activists without any criminal charge is not authoritarian? Deporting Venezuelan migrants to El Salvador because they have suspicious tattoos is not authoritarian?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 06:24 PM
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"Men are going for women out of their leagues because women have more inherent value than men." You are a bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 06:55 PM
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I doubt there is much connection to political beliefs and dating success for men and women, unless they are extreme. Honestly, the guy in your post sounds extreme by reddit standards (and his views should be considered extreme in a sane society imo) but considering most republicans still think the 2020 us election was stolen, he's actually not that abnormal. I think your personal experience should be evidence for misanthropy instead of misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 07:32 AM
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most red pill beliefs about women hitting the wall and how men age like fine wine are just delusional cope probably stemming from a desire for (a perverted form of) justice
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:26 PM
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tbh I'm not a red piller who is personally invested in the percentage of false rape accusations being high. My post above is just expressing mathematically the idea that, assuming the methods used to determine the falsity of an allegation are very accurate, the 5.5% figure is going to be less than the total percentage of false rape accusations, since this percentage includes proven false rape accusations and unproven ones. Maybe the methodology of the studies was actually really bad and the 5.5%…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 09:17 AM
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I think OP is mostly right to say minimum and I will explain in the clearest terms I can. The amount of proven false rape accusations is going to be lower than the amount of actual false rape accusations to the police, assuming the methodology to prove that a rape accusation is false is very accurate (big assumption to be fair). Roughly speaking, Actual False Rape Accusations % (AFA) = Proven False Rape Accusations (PFA) % + Unproven False Rape Accusations % (UFA), which implies that AFA % = 5.5…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 10:38 AM
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I personally don't think they are being disingenuous. I think it has more to do with motivated reasoning: they want to believe the false rape accusation percentage is low because if it were higher, that would make women look more dishonest and immoral as a whole and it would also pose challenges to their belief that people should believe all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 10:20 AM
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I will just repost a comment I wrote earlier about some misconceptions in the interpretation of false rape accusation studies. "I don't understand how some think it's so improbable for women to lie about sexual assault. If so many men are shitty enough to commit sexual assault, why is it ridiculous to think many women could lie about it? It is not only a very emotionally-charged issue, but it's also very difficult to prove one way or the other. While this is terrible for true victims, some screw…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 10:12 AM
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I don't deny that, I just don't think contempt at their stupidity in not taking advantage of an unfair institution ranks very highly as a reason for why they mock single, child-free women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 10:52 AM
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I doubt that is a significant reason for why red pillers resent women who don't marry and don't have children. I am not red pill but I think most red pillers wouldn't really care about single women if the only thing that was special about them was that they didn't take advantage of a man by marrying them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 11:12 AM
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I looked at this person's profile and it's clear they are trying to elicit a response by making posts that sound like an incel, swapping the genders where appropriate. I think people shouldn't waste their time answering this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 10:13 AM
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"Conversely, men are almost universally sick of women’s entitlement and delusion. Completely mediocre women feel owed top tier men, viewing even men more desirable than them as inferior, it’s gotten completely out of control to the point that western women’s entitlement is a worldwide meme." How do you know this? It is so easy to find many anecdotes of women with ridiculous standards because there is so much content out there on the internet (and even then, a lot of it looks like rage bait). I f…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 08:13 AM
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I can't speak to the issue OP is describing because I am not a very social person but there is so much content on the internet that it's easy to make these kinds of social situations seem way more common than they are because of availability bias. For example, any narrative about women having ridiculous standards or being delusional can be justified by many anecdotes because there are so many people on planet earth. I would like to see higher quality evidence than that, personally. I am worried …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 01:26 PM
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I don't know why you keep ignoring when I write a few percent of births are non-paternity events (and I should've added that most of these are undetected). This chance is similar to flipping heads 5-6 times in a row or rolling snake eyes. A paternity test costs only a few hundred dollars and can help you know if your partner cheated on you and if your kid is not actually related. I say surprisingly common because this kind of frequency (which is similar to giving birth to a pair of twins) probab…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 09:00 AM
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You are straw-manning my argument by pretending I think the only benefit of paternity testing is that it reduces the stigma of a paternity test looking like an accusation. This is the benefit of automatic paternity testing that I mention to feminists in the context of their opposition to the idea of paternity testing in general. I bring this idea up as a solution to their concerns about how in its present state, a paternity test seems like an accusation of infidelity. I also said it would preven…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 06:57 AM
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I will respond point by point. A child DNA test is not the same as a paternity test because the former is much more comprehensive and more expensive. A paternity test measures only a few genetic markers in order to tell a child is not biologically yours. So the cost benefit is very different for a child DNA test and not obviously strictly better, which is where the reductio ad absurdum fails. I think if it was just about being worried that your partner will dump you for asking for a paternity te…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 06:22 AM
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I don't think he's moving the goalposts. If there are 100000s to millions of red pillers out there, then only a small fraction of them would need to spend money on red pill merchandise to make these people millionaires. I want to add that it is hard to even define a red piller. Does it mean someone who is a fan of Andrew Tate or Jordan Peterson (then there would be millions of red pillers) or is it something more specific? Hard to say but I would assume under most reasonable definitions of what …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 11:22 PM
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"And many more people think that is a ridiculous waste of resources." How is that a ridiculous waste of resources when there is a few percent chance of false paternity (a significant life altering event)? A few percent is not that low. That's only a ridiculous waste if you think false paternity is not a big deal. "No, it is an extraordinarily stupid proposition on multiple levels, most notable of which is that it seeks to solve a problem that already has a solution. If you question paternity, ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 10:37 PM
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Many people believe paternity tests should be automatically done so it doesn't have to be a choice where the woman feels like they are being accused. Why would people oppose this when the cost of a paternity test is only around a few hundred dollars (probably costs less than this if done widely, since companies selling these services are likely trying to profit even though the demand is pretty low, so fixed/capital costs are high) while the chance of false paternity, a seriously life altering ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 09:20 PM
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Very similar vibes to "hitting the wall" or "where have all the good men gone"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 10:09 AM
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In general, it is true that men can, in some (but not all) cases, opt out of parenthood by putting up for adoption but I didn't consider this because the financial abortion debate is about whether or not a father should be allowed to relinquish parenthood when the mother wants him to retain parental obligations like child support. In this case, the father has very little choice to opt out of parenthood because they usually have to pay child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 09:30 AM
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I said some time before 24 weeks, not at 24 weeks, because I am not very knowledgeable about these things. I completely respect the idea that we need to balance the interests of both parents. You made a good point that the deadline for financial abortion shouldn't be 24 weeks, but I don't think it should be 0 weeks either, as is currently the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:16 AM
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I am having trouble understanding your point. Do you believe that the potential father shouldn't have the right to decide parenthood during the pregnant women's pregnancy? Because the right to choose parenthood for the pregnant women is a byproduct of their right to bodily autonomy? If so, you are conflating necessity and sufficiency. Bodily autonomy is a sufficient reason to support the right to choosing parenthood but it is not necessary. I wrote in another comment about how the right to choos…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 12:44 AM
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You're correct that a women's right to choose parenthood automatically comes from their right to bodily autonomy, but that doesn't mean the right to choose parenthood isn't valuable in and of itself. I would still support abortion even for hypothetical incubator babies if a couple wanted it. Bodily autonomy is completely out of the picture here. In other words, the right to choose parenthood exists independently of the right to bodily autonomy and I doubt most financial abortion proponents would…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:19 PM
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Constant fear and paranoia? Men are considerably more likely to be attacked or killed by strangers than women, even if we discount gang violence. I think the main reason why society just plays along with this notion about how women have it so hard is that they think violence towards women is inherently worse than violence towards men. There are plenty of men out there who believe that women and children must be protected at all costs, and that men's lives are more expendable. It is no coincidenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 01:33 AM
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"I keep hearing Jordan Peterson say that women are attracted to men with the capacity to generate and share wealth, while also saying that IQ is the single best predictor of wealth, so it seems that a corollary of that would be that IQ is the most attractive trait in a man." OP, correlation is not transitive unless the correlations involved are really high. But here, the correlation between IQ and wealth is pretty small. If you throw a 7-sided dice, you have >50% chance of beating the guy throwi…
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