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Fdreal/r/MGTOW03/05/17 08:09 AM
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CMVFdreal/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 01:05 AM
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CMVFdreal/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 07:27 AM
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Question for Blue PillFdreal/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 06:55 AM
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CMVFdreal/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 05:17 AM
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Can't you say the same about "divorce"? elaborate? Citation? https://www.reddit.com/r/RedPillWomen/comments/1x3r4a/fiance_wants_a_prenupwhat_do_i_do_im_so_sad_and/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/he-wants-a-prenup-shes-insulted/2013/07/05/81729500-e5a2-11e2-aef3-339619eab080_story.html yvonnechase.com/why-i-wont-sign-a-prenup/ https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2013/03/21/the-power-of-the-prenup/if-you-want-a-prenup-you-dont-want-marriage Admitting to your potential life partn…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 07:24 AM
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sounds like her fault
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 09:05 AM
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So she's a little girl with no agency?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 05:05 AM
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And? Married men fair better than unmarried men, because marriage is beneficial to men. Lol logic isn't your strong suit, huh? correlation doesn't mean causation Not if she signs a prenup. Most women cringe at that idea. Plus, prenups aren't bulletproof. When men are unhappy in their marriages, they don't divorce their wives (because it doesn't benefit them). They cheat. And no he doesn't if she signs a prenup. They're would leave, but law and culture disincentives it financially. Men don't figh…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 05:05 AM
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And what's the main reason, may I ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 07:35 PM
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Literally the sites you posted were just spouting trends that married men show vs. unmarried men. Correlation != causation. Women aren't forced by the state to give up their careers. Not just women but studies show that women initiate divorce more than men. Common sense should tell you that those women were unhappy because marriage does not benefit women. HAHA better common sense should tell us that happy or not they reap massive benefits in a divorce financially. It's called incentive. Idk what…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 07:34 PM
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Lack of argument is mind boggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 09:03 AM
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Hope you don't mean that women stay in an abusive relationship to avoid being alone? Is that so absurd in your mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 08:53 AM
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Marriage was set up so that it benefits men. Really, give one example? Contemporary marriages have almost no benefit for men that wouldn't apply to the woman as well. Divorce is what defines marriage, the threat of leaving gives them power over you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 08:47 AM
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Lol except they're not. What are they 30% of STEM majors?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 08:44 AM
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women are proven to not be irrational, dumb flowers, hence them outperforming men haha where?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 11:58 PM
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God forbid I try to make a rational decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 10:57 PM
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Beyond what profit you can extract from them, what do you care about odds and percentages? Nothing. Easy My wife bent her knee to offer me a ring in the shape of a dragon capturing a diamond. good for you but it's an anomaly
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 07:29 PM
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Then what makes you think there's a lack of opportunity for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 05:56 PM
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/r/Iamverysmart is that a way
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 05:55 PM
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Got me there
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 05:53 PM
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Most of the people we know married someone they met in college or when they were both broke/beginning their careers. Who would have thought people starting their careers would be poor? Any young couple would be your definition of "broke", but there's clear indicators of future income (education, corporate ladder,etc.). You're assuming that the woman in these scenarios always makes less Just the vast majority. My husband did, and we're both go-getters. And who makes more?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 05:52 PM
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All I'm saying is that you perceive inequality as a lack of opportunity. Not always the case
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 05:31 PM
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Didn’t see any woman calling men immature because of their interests. Are you trolling me? You literally argued that men are more immature because of what they do and because they get boners instead of periods. Reread your own post.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 05:25 PM
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God, thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 05:22 PM
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You can keep pulling the appeal to moderation fallacy all you want. This black and white narrative you keep bringing up is more schizophrenic than anything I've said. You can 1: be a feminist or 2: believe men and women should conform to patriarchal gender roles. Sorry, there's no in between.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 05:18 PM
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You're right. I thought you were bear, sorry. Too much blu 4 me
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 05:14 PM
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I don't go around shaming women for not giving me money.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 05:13 PM
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Haha it is shocking. Equal opportunies? Is that a joke? What can you even blame it on? From youth to adulthood, women are completely favored in academia. Women have their own diversity quotas, even though they are NOT a minority. Yet still after all this time, they fall short. You should try to be aware of ALL black and white thinking that could be going on here. Is it the evil "male gaze" keeping all these poor womyn down? Or, is it simply a fundamental difference between men and women?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 05:12 PM
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You claimed "feminists" only want the freedom to CHOOSE their roles, correct? When did they lack that freedom?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 05:01 PM
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Well there's this thing called logic and semantics. Words have meaning, sorry! you want to claim you're a feminist while saying "women and men are better suited in traditional gender roles". Good luck with all that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 04:58 PM
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you're the one who brought feminists up in the first place lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 04:55 PM
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Likewise. You want to answer the question, though? When did women not have the freedom to be single?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 04:53 PM
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Yea I'm the delusional one. Men and women are totally equal. Women ask men out as much as men ask women out. Women are totally willing to sacrifice their wealth and livelihood to a man! That's the reason all the women go to college and study hard for their practical degrees; to make good money and attract a man. Haha, you live in Candy Land.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 04:51 PM
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These aren't diametrically opposed thoughts at all. You can say you think people would be happier making a certain choice while acknowledging they have the right to make other choices if they want to. When did women not have this freedom? Centuries ago?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 04:47 PM
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It's interesting how you distance yourself from your perceived "younger" opinions. Let's go through them. 1: immaturity = not committing to me. 2:Stop deluding yourself. Women don't give a shit if a man is the most passionate plumber in the world, they'll ditch his ass if a doctor comes around with his six figure salary. Seriously, this idea that "women are attracted to achievements/passion NOT WEALTH" is silly. Goals/Achievements = wealth. If you're attracted to one, you're attracted to the oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 04:45 PM
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"Some" women are more dominant? Lmao. Control is a woman's heroin. What percentage of women are bending to their knees to give a man a diamond?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 04:34 PM
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Women aren't alpha or beta. Men do not have dual-mating strategies. There are no BB women, because women do not provide bux. They're all fucks, no alpha or beta or bux involved. You're just describing some power struggle that has nothing to do with gender. You're trying to describe it as "alpha v beta" AKA "STRONG vs weak". Unfounded.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 04:29 PM
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And these feminists have no right telling what is immature or not when they're the ones not conforming to their traditional role in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 04:25 PM
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Well, you see... you have two diametrically opposed thoughts in your head. Whatever mumbo jumbo you want to spout out to me about how the world is 50 shades of gray can wait, because you have clear case of double think going on. You're a "feminist" who believes women would be much happier taking their traditional gender role in a patriarchal society? You're no feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 04:21 PM
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Yea because in your little world most people are sewing the fields with their bare hands lmao. No, men aren't just stronger, they're smarter.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 04:18 PM
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If we assume alpha and beta exist in men, then they must surely exist in women as well. Nope. You clearly have no understanding of any of the gender dynamics you're trying to describe.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 04:15 PM
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Pick a side. Do you believe in egalitarianism or traditional gender roles?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 04:12 PM
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Why do women need to do men's jobs for them? You're the Blue Piller, not me. Women clearly can't do the jobs men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 04:11 PM
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I don't understand what game you're playing. Go look in it, you have BP and RP alike claiming "hurr durr men r immature"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 04:09 PM
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However, problem arises when women start to claim they are doing a better job than men, yet clearly aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 03:58 PM
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I'm not trying to say women are better than men, just that I've noticed a difference in attitude. It's not an attitude, it's called intelligence and wisdom. The one's jotting down all their life goals like they're writing a script to a movie have delusions of grandeur. Lacking this quality is not something to be ashamed of.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 03:52 PM
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Women on the other hand don't even try to find out what men would like to hear and make compliments they themselves would like to hear. Come on, women try to make men tick when they're really interested. I just think women have so many more options for potential partners, they can afford not to give a shit most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 03:35 PM
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Well women can say men are the immature ones all they want. Look at any data or any numbers and you'll clearly see men doing ALL the work in society. Paying most of the taxes, doing all the dirty jobs. Women can claim men are the immature ones, yet on a whole they're contributing much more to society currently. I agree the two claims are flip-sides, but one side has more credence than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 03:27 PM
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And yet, women have no obligation to theirs. Which makes their stance hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 03:23 PM
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It's bizarre, some women truly think the only goal in male's mind is to serve a woman. Hell, even some men believe this too. I remember my dad ordering me to ask a girl out to prom because "there's so many girls that want to go, but can't, because a guy won't ask them". My own fathered prioritized random girl's happiness over mine. It was my duty to make them happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 03:17 PM
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It's immature when he's not giving me his money
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 03:12 PM
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Some have good jobs (one is a ceo, another a corporate headhunter), true, but at heart, they want to be goofing off as much as possible. So all these achievements of theirs are brushed off as a side note to their goofy lives? Man I wish most women could be as goofy as these ceos you are talking about. Just because women find it harder to accomplish these goals and achievements doesn't make them more worldly and philosophical. In fact, it makes them the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 03:07 PM
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Sure anything that puts more $$ in your direction
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 02:45 PM
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In case you forgot, women are entitled to your money.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 02:45 PM
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The reason so many young men are happy to live on pizza boxes is because they don't have to be responsible for much these days, especially if they are single. And, why should they be? Women bringing literally nothing to the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 02:41 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 02:20 AM
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He's not putting down roots, building anything, or showing he's committed to anything. And what, women do? Get real.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 02:03 AM
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The amount of young men I know who are happy to live on piles of pizza boxes and watered down shampoo while talking about how they are going to "start a business" is staggering. But I don't blame them for it. And what, women are out there working the tough jobs? Get real. If maturity is based on income, men have women beat. For every 10 men you describe as "living on piles of pizza boxes" there are 15 women doing the exact same thing. Only difference is the women expects a man to come and give h…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 01:28 AM
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try to get casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 01:24 AM
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simply being described accurately And what does maturity look like, exactly? Working your ass off to only benefit others?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 01:24 AM
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Lots of time and $$
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 01:18 AM
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Haha so if you're not getting enough sex, you are naturally low value, and should not try to become more valuable?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 12:13 AM
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Right, "men aren't providing for me!!!" is a great argument. Considering men usually make more money than women, this idea that "men are ok with being poor" is laughable. If maturity is based on wealth, then men would be objectively more mature than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 11:56 PM
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Why's that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 11:53 PM
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Hey now, not all idiots are virgins!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 11:52 PM
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Who's placing blame here? I mean you're the one defending "Men are immature". Sounds like blame to me. likely a difference in values that seems to bother women more than it does men. Then you're not arguing "men are immature", you're arguing "women like to see men as immature" which I agree with. You seem supremely aggy my man. no ur mad
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 11:50 PM
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How is it men's fault their values don't align with yours? Equally your fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 11:45 PM
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The only reason they think this is because for them they only care about how a girl looks. So long as she's thin they'll go be her boyfriend When is TRP shilling for LTR's? Guys who are actually a part of the market evaluate their potential life partners on a whole lot more than just looks, and the women they choose have a whole lot more to them than just tits and butts. Not really the point. Most trper's aren't looking for life partners. They want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 11:44 PM
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My argument is that the female biological experience affects the emotional and mental experience. It's unfounded. You can describe a perceived phenomenon by finding some possible cause, but at the end of the day it's useless conjecture. You can't prove it at all, and I could make up my own equally unfounded theory. If it's meaningless to you, then it is what it is:) It's meaningless in the context of your argument. The fact that men describe themselves as less mature is not proof that men are ob…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 11:40 PM
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Granted, I'm a perceptive and deeply introspective person What makes you think this? Not trying to be rude, but ever consider it's just your ego talking? Your self-described maturity has no say in anything. Everyone will describe themselves as above average. I've found myself on dates with dudes who are ten years older me and I'm like y'all are actually retarded. Sounds like a you problem. Date smarter people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 11:35 PM
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Any success without hard work will make someone lazy. Lazy people are usually more likely to end up like losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 11:31 PM
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The only agreed upon meaning of mature is strictly physical. You can use the word to describe someone, but it's completely subjective and relative. I can call a kid mature, but understand that he is less mature than most adults. You can use whatever words you like, but to try to state men are objectively less "mature" because of some puberty pseudo-psychology is ridiculous. The only data you have is self-reported maturity. Using those metrics, anyone who thinks they are mature is considered more…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 11:29 PM
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Women are much more ego and status driven than men. Self describing traits such as "mature" is a silly metric to go on, because if you're trying to make yourself look good you're obviously going to say you're mature. Most children probably claim/think they're mature too. Let's get down what's really going on. When a woman claims a man is "immature" or "childish" all it means is he's acting in way she doesn't like. Reminds me of women telling me how to be a "real man". Women's definition of "matu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 11:11 PM
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You can literally just buy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 05:57 AM
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Must suck being that reliant on female validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 05:57 AM
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Lol if the government wants to try to ban porn, by only response would be "good luck".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 05:54 AM
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Some people define success as something other than pumping out children, lol. Sorry you can't
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 05:49 AM
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For people who aren't Mick Jagger, it is truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 02:30 AM
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You're getting trolled dude
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 02:20 AM
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That some men shouldn't try Some men shouldn't try, Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 02:16 AM
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But all the black pill nonsense in saying that is all genetics Nice strawman. Doesn't matter how ugly you are if you're famous and rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 02:14 AM
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a person is suffering repeated physical assaults. due to their decision not to leave a relationship in fear of being alone. Sure, incels are definitely safer physically, because they're alone to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 10:11 PM
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men who fail to adapt to modern-day society and social dynamics are less likely to procreate. So all the hood rats with 12 baby mamas are ideally "adapting to modern-day society and social dynamics"? Or possibly, is it, that the most successful people may not necessarily want lots of kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 10:04 PM
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Domestic abuse is an order of magnitude more dangerous than a dry spell or inceldom. If your sympathies lie more with the latter, then I'm not sure how anyone could change your view; your priorities may just be skewed. Women are only domestically abused in order to avoid being alone. So the notation that "loneliness is not as bad as assault" is silly. They actively choose to stay in that abusive relationship. Incels can't choose anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 09:58 PM
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Haha I'd imagine starving being much worse than any blue balls. (I assume everyone answering has never really been hungry) Plus, you can always masturbate.. no?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 09:55 PM
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Your sources are only talking about boats.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 03:55 PM
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This whole trope of men laying down their lives for women doesn't actually happen. Never did haha what?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 03:47 PM
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They pretend to be against it in debate, but show no real push for social change, unlike many other issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 03:46 PM
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Why should they protest? Because they act like they hate it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 08:14 AM
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And yet I see almost no feminists protesting free meals and bullet shields.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 07:21 AM
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Women are more inclined to sacrifice her time and career prospects to follow the path of her SO. Working women still manage the Lion's share of household labor. Women are tasked with maintaining their looks into old age to satisfy her partner's desires, lest he cheat or cease to provide for her after she's sacrificed time, potential income, and her youth to service his goals. Assuming these are true, how does it make women any more "disposable"? You aren't arguing your point very well. It's not …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 07:20 AM
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Again, why is this necessarily a problem? Just points out gender differences and the fact that men put more into relationships. no one is pushed into it. I'm sure that's the case. And feminists are in general against many traditional roles that benefit women. Right, I see them on the streets protesting against free meals all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 07:18 AM
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Right, and women will judge men who don't help them all the time as assholes. gotcha
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 07:14 AM
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It's not about what you want it's about what you think you deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 07:11 AM
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Appealing to morality Not a fallacy moralistic fallacy Not occurring here
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 12:25 AM
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Only your bad judgement
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 11:51 PM
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No one owes it to me to behave how I want them to behave. Unless they want you to interact with them positively. If, for example, a man thought negatively of a girl for not having sex with him, people would claim he was entitled to sex. If you were to think negatively for people who didn't do favors for you, you would be considered "entitled" to those favors. Pretty basic stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 11:13 PM
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No thanks, I mean nice date invite and all, but I left my wallet home. Gonna have to pay for and eat that cookie yourself. No that cookies for free, I desired for you to eat that cookie. If I had invited you with me to go eat cookies, did you really think I desired to pay for you to have free cookies? If I did, I may as well hand you $10 to go buy your own cookies.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 11:08 PM
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"you have to do what I want you to do or else I will judge you negatively for it"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 11:03 PM
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Yea that's totally the definition I meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 10:36 PM
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I judge people who wear cargo shorts. Does that mean I believe they owe it to me to wear more fashionable clothes? I judge people who enjoy the music of Macklemore. Does that mean they owe it to me to have better taste in music? I judge people for self seeking and antisocial behavior. Does that mean they owe it to me to behave in the way I want them to? None of these are equivalent to what we're talking about. If you expect someone to do something for you and judge them negatively for not doing …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 10:35 PM
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It isn't entitlement unless they demand it. This isn't true. Entitlement just means there is something they think they should get. By being a passive participant and then shunning, it isn't attempting to force others to confirm to their standards. What does forcing people do to things have anything to do with expecting things out of people you don't necessarily deserve?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 10:27 PM
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the menz sending other menz off to get killed fighting ISIS in Niger, or wherever the fuck Syria, who knows next. I forgot, women don't have any involvement in politics, and have never started wars. I also forgot that the men fighting in all wars are "extending the geopolitical interests" for their own country and has nothing to do with moral values. I think the issue of men being selfless and protecting others in mass shootings is way more about how fucked up we are in America that we manage to…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 10:17 PM
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I asked my ex husband out on my first date with him. Here's a cookie. The thing about making respect something that is only ever given once someone has proven to you they are deserving Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 10:12 PM
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If you're judging people negatively for not conforming to what you think they should do for you, that's called entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 10:11 PM
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aren't those expecting men to be providers and protectors. It's the opposite! But they'd gladly accept it, while reciprocating nothing in return; skewing the gender dynamics, creating unequal relationships. You're not expecting it, but most women would dump a man if he protects his own life before hers. Wars are dumb, armies shouldn't exist, drafts shouldn't exist. Profound. If it were to happen, you could be sure I would protest it. I'm sure you would. You'd hold up that picket sign proudly as …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 10:10 PM
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general expectation for her to put her career aside for family or to do most of the domestic chores? this is only the expectation when the husband rakes in most of the dough, though. I bet a lot of reds would agree with me. agreed. I would put myself in peril to save another I know and yet, many men do it for their woman, even though the women wouldn't do it for them. They support gender norms regardless of which gender they favor or harm. So they don't "jump on the equality train when it benefi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 10:06 PM
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So you don't judge people who wouldn't pick up your phone for you or do?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 10:00 PM
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But if you judge and avoid people who don't... how is that not entitlement?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 09:52 PM
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I wouldn't say I "expect" politeness from others, but I do judge and avoid those to lack manners. Haha what's the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 09:49 PM
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I just see it as lingering gender norms. I wish women would have some of these nice "lingering gender norms" actively encouraged in TRP Out of necessity. Can't expect a woman to care about you/ stay with you through any hardships you may face. traditional conservatives Right, because tradcons are pushing for gender equality, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 09:47 PM
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They don't fight for either, because they don't care. They're not fighting for equality, they're fighting for misaligned female-centric gender norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 09:43 PM
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people here who don't hold those opinions to answer for those who do. BP and feminism share many beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 09:42 PM
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Whatever your gender, when you do the inviting then you are paying This argument is always spouted when it comes to who should pay. Of course women will say this, because they're never going to be the ones that ask men out. As for 2) it's kind of non-sequitur. I'm talking about dates. you're within your rights to have nothing to do with that. I understand this. I'm within my rights to not date anyone for any reason, but that's not exactly my point. Everybody wants respect But not everyone deserv…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 09:42 PM
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Yes, yet men are expected to be protectors and providers, still. While women reap the benefits of equality when they want it, and "old-fashion" gender norms when they don't. For example, there's no feminists fighting to be forced to get drafted.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 09:37 PM
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I don't get the point of your comment
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 09:33 PM
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What does it say about the sexes when one sex is seemingly more ready to sacrifice than the other?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 09:31 PM
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We shouldn't expect nor demand it, but if men choose to do it more than women then there is no issue. Is that so? There is no issue? The fact that men will sacrifice more for women than women will for men is pretty reinforcing of RP beliefs. I go by the motto of looking out for number one. Fuck that, I am the most important person in the world to me. No surprise there Because not everyone is on board the equality train They jump on the equality train when it benefits them and jump off when it do…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 09:30 PM
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The ones that think men should pay on first dates. The ones that think men owe all women "respect".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 08:33 PM
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how?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 12:48 AM
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If it's not based on action you end up arguing that people are hypocrites for wanting opposite-sex partners at all. No, you do, haha. That's my point. Not hypocritical to be attracted to something different from yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 04:14 PM
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So is it hypocritical for women to want men who are taller than them?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 06:26 AM
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Sexually successful men are still using RP tactics. They're just unaware of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 12:27 AM
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They couldn't care. They can say anything and still get laid. I don't think it affects whether they're feminist or not. Either way, they're getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 12:23 AM
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Red Pill and Black Pill share the same ideology. The only difference is the actions they take once they understand the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 12:19 AM
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Sure but reality is no one is looking out for your best interests except for you. You're an adult, don't get dicked around.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 11:07 PM
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It's not hypocrisy it's preference. Is it hypocritical to want to attain a guy that's taller than you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 11:04 PM
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Sure but it's stupid to give money to women for no reason. Not her fault I'm dumb enough to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 10:06 PM
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I don't understand your argument. Being a slut doesn't make you a bad person, it just makes you unattractive. In your example it just shows you have the ability to eat a bagel, so I guess you can argue it makes you privileged. Idk what good or bad have to do with it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 10:05 PM
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But lying to get them to give you money is fraud. It's only fraud if you are exchanging money for something and then they don't deliver that something. Giving money to a girl pretending to love you is not fraud.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 10:03 PM
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if we all stayed chaste then acquiring casual sex would be impossible for you Women don't Right now, I'm eating a bagel. Easy for me, but it would be difficult for someone without teeth. And that has exactly jack shit to do with the morality of bagel-eating. Right but if only tall handsome men got to eat a lot of bagels, then it says something if you are the man eating a lot of bagels.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 09:42 PM
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Men can't just flip a switch and start banging tons of women casually. It takes self-restraint, persistence, and luck. Not equivalent to women opening their legs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 09:14 PM
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Elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 08:36 PM
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I means you're a pussy. Not saying it to be mean, but an actual pussy, afraid of pissing off anyone. the irony is astounding
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 08:23 PM
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1) thinly veiled ad hominem? 2) Marriage rates are dropping. You have a lot of bachelor men that wouldn't probably label themselves MGTOW, but are. 3) Kind of like the whole RP/BP debate. PPD is pretty much a western phenomenon so idk what other global cultures has to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 08:22 PM
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Fine, then I guess it has no place on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 08:20 PM
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And you can engage in discourse with these people without claiming "I'm not concerned with morality"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 08:18 PM
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With that type of thinking then at this point in time and in this culture are the only things that matter, anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 08:18 PM
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Why claim anything is "amoral" then when it any action isn't? Sounds like we're going in circles here..
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 08:15 PM
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I'll add the "/s" tag for you if you didn't get it. I'm merely using your logic to come up with rational conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 08:14 PM
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Sexual success is indifferent to morality Any type of individualist success is "indifferent to morality". Sexual success doesn't trump morality either. I could go on a raping spree and be very sexually successful but unfortunately it's not moral, and I will be judged for it. Just because it's successful doesn't mean it's good or right.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 08:12 PM
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You're right. Porn is not a substitute for relationships. Haha nice strawman. No one was arguing that. I'd say prostitution/porn and healthy relationships with friends are good substitute for LTR's. Do you have any evidence that the fact that millenials are delaying marriage has anything to do with porn? Do I need any? You stated that men are having as many relationships as ever, despite of porn. I said you're wrong, and your presumed evidence of it would actually be correlated against your own …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 08:09 PM
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If TRP has no reason to justify itself why are red pillers on this sub? And what, exactly, are you teaching when you claim sexual strategy is "amoral"? Not like that means anything, what set of actions isn't amoral?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 07:55 PM
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TRP has no statements for outside people. What is this supposed to mean? TRP has no reason to justify itself against any criticism?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 07:51 PM
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I'll do the same to your spouse. Winner winner chicken dinner
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 07:48 PM
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Because porn's not a perfect substitute. I said this about 3 times now. Most men want relationships for the sex. Porn isn't sex. Considering the fact that less men are in relationship when there's more porn, you don't even have correlation on your side. ie: you have no point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 07:47 PM
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Considering prostitution is illegal, I doubt you're going to get the law on your side when losing money to a woman. Let's say I gave a woman money, expecting sex from it, and I don't get sex. It's not her fault because it wasn't a precise contract anyways. Even if it was, it was an illegal contract to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 07:44 PM
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there's more at stake than just what the law can do to you. Your reputation and social standing for example. Certain groups will punish you through means that don't necessarily have to do with the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 07:41 PM
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Phd's in what, theology?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 07:38 PM
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The amoral argument in defense of immoral actions is not sound. That's all I'm trying to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 05:47 PM
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Right they have nothing to do with eachother. I could kidnap your girlfriend, rape her, then kill her. Would that put me on the winning team?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 05:46 PM
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Considering you might get thrown off a building, I'd say to keep it on the down low.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 05:43 PM
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I think we're in agreement. Using amoral knowledge to do immoral things is immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 05:21 PM
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idk, that's more of a philosophical question. Why should anyone care if what they're doing is moral?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 05:20 PM
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"Why care about ethics if my peepee is rubbed!!!" And I'm the one thinking like a child...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 05:16 PM
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It's not like TRPers are capable of listening to women or noticing how they feel. Even if this were true, they wouldn't need to. They'd just get dumped. What, do women have no decision-making skills or something? Acting like women are children, they're not. Don't like your partner? Leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 05:14 PM
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But TRP is amoral but people on TRP are not. So if they act against this "human-crafted" morality, they have to answer for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 05:12 PM
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That's why you make MGTOW friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 05:11 PM
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If you want to discuss the ethics of sexual strategy, I'm sure there could be a sub made to discuss that particular topic. It's talked about in this sub all the time. I know, knowledge is amoral, it's what you do with it. And if you do immoral things with it you can't hide behind the fact that the knowledge is "amoral". That's my point. Personally, I don't think TRPers do many immoral things.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 05:10 PM
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There's dogmatic morality everywhere though. Or, at least, there's always actions you take that could be considered right or wrong by others. If you're defending TRP by non-TRPers saying "we don't acknowledge morality" doesn't exactly make you look good.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 05:08 PM
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What a broad statement that has no evidence and is contrary to the millions of people who lived and died devoting their lives to religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 05:07 PM
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But if you do shoot the clerk, it's immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 05:05 PM
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"Amoral" means that it's a strategy for obtaining more sex, period. Rape is amoral?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 05:05 PM
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Whether it's female strategy, or your view on how society presents female strategy, you still believe it to be immoral. Why is it so absurd for RP male strategy to be viewed as immoral?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 05:04 PM
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edit: misread you're comment No I don't think it's immoral to give out amoral information in general. I suppose it would be immoral to give out amoral info to immoral people though. Except you're not responsible for those people, so it's not necessarily immoral if you don't know who you're giving it to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 05:02 PM
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To which everyone replies "so what?" at the start of doing something immoral you already decide that it's ok for you to do. So a murderer and rapist are ok in your book because "they themselves decided to do it, so they are moral"? The point is, it's not exactly up to you to decide what's moral or not. And I have yet to find anyone who isn't some crazy lunatic that thinks premartial sex is immoral that the stuff I do is immoral. Idk what you do, idk if you're even RP. Personally, I don't think R…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 05:00 PM
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Righteous fervour is far more dangerous than rational self interest. In those two contexts
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 05:26 AM
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I did. Porn's not a great substitute and LTR's and marriages have been falling on a whole, so the question is flawed to begin with. READ next time pls
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 05:25 AM
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oops
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 03:03 AM
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oh
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 02:25 AM
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uhhm you? "it claims "sexual strategy is immoral""
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 02:15 AM
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RP is not found in the Users, its found int eh sidebar and the RP writers. According to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 02:12 AM
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Well, see, fraud is a thing... giving someone money as a gift is not fraud
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 02:08 AM
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And what about marriage satisfaction?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 02:03 AM
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Sleep tight
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 02:02 AM
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Which, by most definitions means tons of RPers are immoral, correct? I think we're in agreement
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 02:01 AM
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You're not making any sense. You're not free from morals when claiming amorality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 01:59 AM
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RPers claim it, RP does NOT difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 01:58 AM
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I guess my question is, what makes sexual strategy inherently immoral? Why is it different from any other set of actions?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 01:55 AM
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You're actions aren't amoral. The sub's not making any decisions, it has no morality. But people on the sub do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 01:52 AM
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This would be true but I simply disagree on the magnitude that n-count plays and the fact that n-count is unattractive for other reasons. Especially at high numbers, you're going to be the last man of many. A super slut could even have a reputation that you wouldn't want to be romantically associated with in public. If that sits well with the man, I suppose it doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 01:48 AM
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“do I want strong moral principles that I want to live by, or do I want to behave however I need to behave to get what I want? Right, you get what you want by doing immoral things. Which is a prime BP criticism. BP's aren't claiming you immoral because of the knowledge you know, it's because of the actions you take,.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 01:41 AM
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Idk why you're beating around the bush. Just go ahead and say "TRP is immoral, but I don't care". Pretty much what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 01:39 AM
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how one chooses to go ABOUT handling one's sexual imperatives strategy is a different ball of wax Right but I addressed that. No one's ethically criticizing the ideology they're criticizing TRPers actions. Two wrongs make a right now? Does female immoral strategy justify male immoral strategy?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 01:36 AM
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If your on Ppd don't ask why TRP is immoral. uhh what, why? You're not even making sense
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 01:31 AM
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Yes, people that see sex and love as being closely linked will tend to have lower n-counts. Right, so like the type of people you'd want to marry? who said pair bonding was so important? People that want a loyal partner. What you're saying is there ARE women that can't pair bond and it is correlated to n-count. So, for a man who is looking for a loyal wife, he would want to avoid these types of women, correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 01:31 AM
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A relationship is a consensual agreement. If you feel abused by it, leave. No ones putting a gun to your head to stay. Knowingly giving someone an STD is not consensual, or similar in any way to RP strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 01:28 AM
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Higher n-count women are more likely to have an unhappy marriage and more likely to divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 01:26 AM
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Impaired pair-bonding comes before sluttiness Ah, so there is some inverse correlation between partner count? Healthy, well-adjusted sluts are usually sensation-seeking adrenaline junkies that separate sex and love. But the other ones can't pair bond. What percentage of sluts do you think are "healthy"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 01:20 AM
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This isn't TRP. There are actions that people claim are bad/selfish/harming. Defending your potentially immoral actions with "I'm not concerned with morals" is a terrible and meaningless defense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 01:17 AM
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Not on PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 01:06 AM
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Incels are BP. They have a psychological need for female validation. People who are satisfied with hookers and friends wouldn't be incel. So, by definition, incels aren't going to be satisfied. Pretty much all men watch porn and have friends, and yet a vast majority still seek out relationships with women. Why do you think that is? Not really a good point; less men are seeking out LTR's than ever. The availability of porn and the amount of LTR's happening have an inverse relationship. I wouldn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 01:03 AM
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Lets say a woman knowingly gave you an STD. Exponentially worse than what TRPers do. Pretty sure that's illegal too. What actions do TRPers take that are on that level? Manipulation isn't harmless. Emotional abuse isn't harmless. Grow up. You're not a kid, you're not being abused. People will try to use you for what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 01:03 AM
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Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 01:00 AM
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what makes RP a target for ethical criticism when women's less than upstanding dating strategies mostly aren't? That's a much better argument than "we're amoral". Everyone's allowed to be amoral Allowed by whom? You can't do anything you want and expect no criticism
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 12:59 AM
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Haha the only "morality" that gets removed is your own immoral actions. On the sub, female actions are still judged heavily for being right or wrong. Regardless, whether or not the sub is truly "amoral" doesn't mean it's immune to criticism from outsiders. If you're doing an immoral action, and claim it's amoral, it's still immoral. You want to be some moralfag/sjw and cry morality is this supposed to be an argument? you're on PPD not TRP, you have to defend your own actions, ethically.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 12:54 AM
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But secondly, and more importantly to open their eyes to the fact that women's dating strategies are by and large amoral. Well, clearly not. RPers claim female dual strategy (BB/AF) is immoral. What does amoral even mean in that context? Right, amoral. Not involving right and wrong. Why are you allowed to be amoral? what makes TRP free from ethical criticism?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 12:44 AM
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Hitler wasn't a bad guy. He was just using an amoral strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 12:40 AM
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Reread. My whole point is that Claiming amorality removes morality. is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 12:37 AM
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Lol men who have struggled dating are the first ones to marry one of these promiscuous women because they have no better option.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 12:36 AM
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Again, it's not abuse if I chose to give her money. I knew what the risks are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 12:32 AM
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Okay, so manipulating women to sleep with you isn't harming them? No, no one's raping women. Women choose to fuck them. How would you feel if a man manipulated you into giving him money? I'd feel dumb, but I wouldn't be harmed. If I willingly gave her the money as a gift, it's my fault. That's causing direct harm to your fellow human beings. I'm not seeing where any harm was inflicted.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 12:20 AM
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How could you possibly see that as harmless? Because they don't do anything that causes harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 12:04 AM
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This is silly. You said something that was untrue, and I corrected you. Now you're claiming what you said never mattered in the first place and you're straw manning a moral argument out of nowhere? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 12:00 AM
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1) You're playing around with semantics to prove your own point. According to TRP: Alpha doesn't mean "bad traits", it means masculine and assertive traits. Beta doesn't mean "good traits", it means unmasculine and pushover traits. 2) They generalize a lot. The argument is, due to law and culture, men are screwed from the get-go in most LTR's and especially in marriages. TRP's main strategy is to "spin plates"/FWB. Casual sex and never commit. That isn't inherently sexist. 3) Again, I really don…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 11:55 PM
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What is a human, but a sophisticated robot?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 11:40 PM
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What's so absurd about that though? If you have less partners, you have less to compare to and could pair bond more easily, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 11:38 PM
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Huh? You're the one that brought it up, lol. It's not hypocritical to be attracted to something you don't have. Sorry you're wrong? But I guess NOW you're claiming to say "everyone's hypocritical" even that statement has nothing to do with what we're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 11:36 PM
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Not an incel. I can't have a normal conversation with you. Why, cause you can't use Tradcon shaming tactics?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 11:25 PM
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To say a man is hypocritical to be attracted to something he does not possess is saying a man is hypocritical for not being attracted to men. Not that hard of a concept. Men can be attracted to things they don't possess. Same with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 11:22 PM
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I don't give a fuck what you care about. But you care about what I do, what I eat, and how I jerk it, apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 11:20 PM
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If you're argument is "most men are somewhat irrational when it comes to women" idk what to tell you. I'm inclined to agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 11:17 PM
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well yea, my main complaint is how people and media handle it. I don't have much distaste for the way the law handles it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 11:16 PM
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With the validation from being attractive enough to fuck said slut Fucking sluts isn't that validating. Especially if you know she's promiscuous, she could have fucked anyone and you got lucky. plus the human connection from fucking her. ah, the human connection. Is this physical, or some spiritual thing? Sweat, temperature, and the kinematics of the human body could all theoretically be simulated.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 11:12 PM
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Yea, irrational men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 11:08 PM
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interrogate someone AS IF THEY ARE AUTOMATICALLY LYING Actually you should because that's how you gather evidence and make sure they're not lying. If I accused you of murder tomorrow, they're not going to take me seriously if there's no evidence. They wouldn't plaster your photos all over social media calling you an accused murderer.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 11:08 PM
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Is being a heterosexual hypocritical? After all you don't have their genitalia, so it's hypocritical for you to be attracted to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 11:03 PM
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Why would I care what your definition of a "strong male" is?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 11:01 PM
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This would mean that robots are as good at providing validation as humans. Casual sex isn't exactly that validating. That's all robots need to attain: the validation equivalent to casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 11:00 PM
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while not possessing it himself. why do people have to be attracted to things they possess? Is an ideal partner my female clone? There's also clear evidence that men value chastity over experience and women value the opposite. Society's mockery and belittlement of male virgins matches with it's disgust of promiscuous women. Nothing hypocritical about it, it's just different values.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 10:55 PM
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Haha imagine if men held this attitude. "If she doesn't like my sexist, rapey view on things, shes a bitch, and I wouldn't date her anyways" sounds like a female variant of a Nice Guy argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 10:47 PM
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That doesn't really answer his question
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 10:45 PM
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Is that the answer to everything? "if a man doesn't like something I do he's UNATTRACTIVE"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 10:41 PM
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weren’t believed and were interrogated for no reason It's called gathering evidence. I know you think due process and justice is sexist, so we should just forgo all that mumbo jumbo and believe everything an accuser says. If not, the RAPISTS win, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 10:38 PM
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Ditto. You act like you're getting abused by the technology you use (and in many cases, sign an agreement to use). Here's an idea, if you feel like you're restricted or being datamined, use a different type of software/hardware or don't use it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 10:34 PM
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weak In what sense? Is conforming to everyones desires "strong"?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 10:32 PM
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Well then we're in agreement. Plenty of people are in miserable marriages and stay in them for a variety of reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 10:31 PM
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The whole problem was started because of a large scale push for believing everything a woman says. Women lie. Teach women not to lie, and teach people not to believe things without evidence. I mean we've seen it played out with many public figures. How many women did Trump rape again? oh wait, none, they all just lied for attention and to slander his campaign.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 10:29 PM
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Incels are BP. They have a psychological need for female validation. People who are satisfied with hookers and friends wouldn't be incel. So, by definition, incels aren't going to be satisfied. Pretty much all men watch porn and have friends, and yet a vast majority still seek out relationships with women. Why do you think that is? Not really a good point; less men are seeking out LTR's than ever. The availability of porn and the amount of LTR's happening have an inverse relationship. I wouldn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 10:22 PM
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Easy to say if you have a lot options, have no desire for children, and will drop any partner flippantly. For most people, this isn't the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 10:14 PM
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No one's forcing you to use a restricting botnet device.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 10:08 PM
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What's it to you? It's called freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 10:05 PM
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You act like everyone who get's married does it out of pure love. There are many pressures from the state, family, culture, and religious/spiritual institutions swaying people to get married. Hell, many people just do it out of desperation because they think the clock is ticking.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 10:03 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 09:58 PM
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any suggestions? Stop believing rape accusers without concrete evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 09:57 PM
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You can, but it's not the same. What exactly, isn't the same? Whether your slamming your meat with some slut you just met or your sexbot, there's not going to be much "affection" or "validation". I think nowadays is a pretty bad time if you want deep seated emotional/spiritual sex. Sex isn't special anymore, and religious ties to it are slowly dying out. why isn't that combined with porn or prostitutes enough for most? It is for many. I'm sure family/societal pressure is also swaying the decisio…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 09:56 PM
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Because they can just defend their ideology by saying "oh, well, I don't act like that!" when in reality most women do. When you say "all women in this thread are telling you you're wrong" as if that's some sort of evidence, it's pretty silly. Of course they'll say that, it's called disagreement. It's not bad faith, I think they're just misguided. I suppose "lying" is not the right word. In the real world, most men care about sexual history, whether you like it or not. No ones preening themselve…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 09:49 PM
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that women no longer need a man as a matter of their very survival. Men are also struggling with the fact that law and culture acts like women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 09:38 PM
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In the end the porn/sexbot user is left alone in his apartment, covered in his own filth and utterly alone, not having made any kind of human connection. Rather than drunk, sweaty, and lying next to some slut you have no connection to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 09:36 PM
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Humans crave validation and affection from other humans Can't you get that from friends? Why does affection and validation have to be sexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 09:35 PM
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feel shame and experience micro-depression from falling to porn. what are you, 12 years old? I'm not sure if most adults feel "shameful" for watching porn. Especially non-religious adults. psychological damage later in life like studies are starting to show which studies? Either way - dependence and addiction to porn will have some serious unintended consequences. rather than what? Dependence and addiction to sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 09:32 PM
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Who cares which type of tech will emerge fastest? What matters is whether or not these technologies can actually provide an equal or superior service over one night stands. If this happens, any type of tech could potentially change the SMP.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 09:28 PM
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They are not embarrassed by, remorseful, or ashamed of their sexual history. Because women aren't capable of lying, correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 09:24 PM
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Nah, if I was uncomfortable, I wouldn't have answered. Which is why you probably just lie, lol. It's what men telegraph when they ask that matters to women because in your world women don't need to appear attractive to men and do not try either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 07:34 PM
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Then again, I'm also a fully grown adult that realizes people have a past entirely independent of my own involvement. Yes, you're a big boy. The women I'm talking about seemingly have no such difficulty explaining their sexual history Then uhm we're not talking about the same women? To them, they just don't care to answer because they aren't interested in men who feel the need to ask in the first place. Or they're ashamed of their behavior and they know it's unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 07:32 PM
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I know all the women in this thread have 10-15 guys begging for their commitment, no matter how slutty they are. Here's what the reality is: high n-count is unattractive and if you have any difficulty explaining your sexual history, it's a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 11:39 PM
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Because they're uncomfortable with answering it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 09:06 PM
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what?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 08:30 PM
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What's the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 08:29 PM
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Because you were uncomfortable with the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 08:29 PM
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I bet you would xD
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 08:15 AM
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How is this a question for RPers??
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 08:12 AM
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weirdo
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 08:10 AM
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No thx
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 08:07 AM
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cute. I guess I need some of your luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 08:03 AM
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ah, thanks for the advice
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 08:00 AM
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my husband who is amazing and has earning power now even though he was broke when we met and from a working class family. That sounds like you just got lucky though
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 06:56 AM
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Add on to that the peace of mind knowing that either of us could walk out at any moment without the hassle of divorce and we still choose to stay. Right, no marriage. No kids. Do you disagree? Yea, DUH. Many men have more options than their female peers. I guess if you choose to only see certain men, this is untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 05:06 AM
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but it's exactly what I want and I'm very satisfied with my life. Right, but it's not exactly a normal scenario. most sluts have their pick of men to commit to. If that's your argument, fine. "ALL WOMEN HAVE MORE OPTIONS THAN ALL MEN". get real
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 04:56 AM
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considering I've not experienced one iota of the doom and gloom promised to me by trp, despite apparently being post wall. considering you're not happily married, you don't really have a grasp on the "doom and gloom" that TRP describes. Because every single woman here confirms that n count was never a topic of discussion and therefore not a factor in their relationships. Of course every woman is going to say that.. no guy will let a girl know their judging them. However, if a guy hears rumor tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 04:51 AM
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LOL. Owned.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 04:48 AM
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L'all of you are acting silly xD!!! Y'all are crazy!!! Become more moderate!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 04:47 AM
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Most Stacies have their pick of quality men to choose from Most women aren't most Stacies. I know you'd love if your looks exempted you from your actions, but they don't. My experience is exactly like every other woman commenting on this thread. Why do you believe this? No offense
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 04:45 AM
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Your theory is nothing more than sour grapes and a desperate desire to believe that Stacy will regret not settling down with a beta loser when she was still young and pure. Is this untrue? Anyone who spends their schooling years slutting around and getting drunk is not exactly a high quality mate. You can say I'm "sour graping" all you want. I don't care. It's not me committing to these women. I'm telling you from experience, just like every other woman in this thread, these "consequences" don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 04:30 AM
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I watch what men do, not what they say. Haha sounds familiar. /r/theredpill Men are eager to commit to women with high n counts because fucking look around you. Do you really, truly believe that women with high counts are having a hard time dating? I'm just claiming women with higher n-counts are less attractive than women who don't have n-counts as high. There's plenty of deadbeat manginas out there willing to date high n-count women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 04:12 AM
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There is a reason, and it has nothing to do with my n count. Duh, it had to with them, obviously. High quality men tend to have high n counts. RP belief Statistically, men with high n counts tend to partner with women with high n counts. I mean, so what? Sure, porn stars aren't the ones to go after virgins. The data shows us that low quality men care about n counts, not the type of men I date. The data also shows that lower n-count women lead to healthier, more stable marriages. You can sit here…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 04:07 AM
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They wanted you to be rich first and foremost. Not exactly the worst advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 04:02 AM
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That's good advice though, if you take it a certain way. Always go for the rich guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 04:00 AM
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No man who's known my number has ever dumped me, two have proposed. Good for you? We had this conversation before about half a year ago... there's a reason you didn't say yes. oh I see. They really really care, they just don't say anything. Or take any action. Or change their behavior in any way. Because that's how reasonable people behave when something matters to them. Got it. You clearly deal with different men than the norm. You can have low value orbiters giving you commitment all you want,…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 03:58 AM
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But not scared enough to run away when they learn about it. they aren't? It will definitely factor in whether or no they run away. And yet they never ask, and continue to commit to women with high n counts. Funny that. They don't ask because they think even non-promiscuous women would get offended. They don't WANT to commit to high n count women, they just find themselves in that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 03:51 AM
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It also leads to angry, maladjusted nerds hopped up on horseshit. What does? Not dating women makes you a schizoid? get out of here
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 03:45 AM
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My LTRs (including my wife) were virgins when I met them Or so you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 03:43 AM
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Sexual history has only been discussed in the context of an already established relationship as a topic of minor interest. Because they're too scared to discover something they don't want to know. The only thing that would make me uncomfortable talking about it with a new partner would be just the general strangeness of being asked in the first place. I would consider that a red flag. True. It's not exactly classy or smooth to ask "so, how many guys you've been with??". Cringe worthy. But men wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 03:42 AM
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Not always the case
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 03:39 AM
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If you're uncomfortable with answering that question, then you're not exactly top tier dating material..
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 03:38 AM
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Girls like a guy's butt when they're attracted to that guy anyways. There's never been a case of a girl liking a guys butt and not liking the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 03:35 AM
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"Be yourself"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 03:33 AM
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basic supply and demand. You have less of something, you value it more.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 05:50 AM
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Maybe cause most men have less options than most women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 04:51 AM
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When I think of red heads I think of cute Irish girl red heads. Idk about the whole psychobabble jesus stuff but I'm open ears.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 08:36 AM
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And there are much more high n-count women than high n-count men, correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 11:23 PM
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high n-count is an indicator for negative behaviours and beliefs which can ultimately ruin LTR down the line. We agree with eachother, however it is much easier for a woman to be high n-count than a man, and much more common. Really where TRP fails is when it tries to advise on LTR strategy. Casual sex fine, but relationships are too complex for TRP tenets. If you're only looking at the bottom barrel pua crap on TRP then sure, but improving yourself and becoming confident with yourself certainly…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 11:22 PM
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You're right many TRPer's are ego freaks writing fan fiction about the women they bang. These are not the same men actually getting laid, they are LARPers pretending to be alpha of alphas. I do agree with you some of the "I am so alpha" posts there are cringe worthy and laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 11:20 PM
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If a woman discovers her husband had a gang bang with all her friends before she met him, she isn't impressed because it was "difficult" for him. She's disgusted because it's disgusting and embarrassing for her. No one wants to be in a relationship with a man who fucked everything in sight. She should be disgusted, but overwhelmingly women aren't disgusted by high n count men. Just because men and women have different preferences in each others behavior doesn't mean its a double standard. I mean…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 11:17 PM
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getting with or getting in a relation with?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 11:14 PM
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No I'm not including that either, jesus. I'm not trying to be rude, but you're in the wrong subreddit if you want to discuss that. Most monogamous relationships there is an understanding of faithfulness both physical and emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 07:05 PM
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If a man discovers his wife had a gang bang with all his friends before he met her, he isn't disgusted because it was "easy" for her. He's disgusted because it's disgusting and embarrassing for him. No one wants to be in a relationship with a girl who gave herself up to many men. Is it logical? Well, slutty women cheat more and have worse marriages. But, it doesn't need to be logical. You don't need to justify attraction. Women judge a man for his height, while men don't do the reciprocal, is it…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 06:59 PM
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sure they dont
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 06:55 PM
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Well let's say no cuckolds or poly amorous people. PPD isn't meant for LGBT standards it's BP vs RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 06:54 PM
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Lol wtf is your point then? So TRP is the best way to attract women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 06:52 PM
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Weird how all your "feminine men women actually like" aren't that feminine and are also rich and famous (or a mass murderer, women love those).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 06:14 PM
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Who are you responding to lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 06:13 PM
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Men who like just the feeling of orgasm get into LTR's Not if they don't like the time, cost, or feeling of an LTR. You just argued that a guy was simply afforded many opportunities and took them! Which is the exact same situation for women. A guy has to work hard for his opportunities or have very high natural value while a woman doesn't. All the signs you just stated for promiscuous women can equally apply to promiscuous men. "of having no self control and no reverence for serious relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 06:11 PM
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Nice bait. If it's real you're way too far gone. In fact the most enchanting woman I have EVER met came to me a few weeks back. a few weeks back
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 06:05 PM
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Go on a date, don't put make up, tell the guy your true n-count and see how he reacts. Lol, lying is unattractive, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 06:03 PM
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It's funny in your mind you believe men and women have an equal opportunity on becoming "promiscuous"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 06:00 PM
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Go ahead and blame your actions on "emotional problems" but like I said, you, the promiscuous male got the virgin female, which diametrically opposes with tiposk said
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 06:00 PM
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I'm saying that if you're a slut, ashamed or not, you'd be more attractive pretending you weren't a slut in the first place. Which is what they all do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 05:58 PM
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Now you're just contradicting yourself you said "no men don't get laid doing that, but they think that" and now you say "Yes they do get laid doing that". TRP teaches which behaviours to express mhmm, so express the behaviors that show you DON'T have emotional issues, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 05:56 PM
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Ehhhhh? it depends mate. Lots of guys do. Typically younger men with something to prove. They're chasing sex in general, because they love the feeling and don't get enough of it. Like women have? Yes, women can get casual sex whenever they want. You can understand not being a hypocrite. what? I think it can develop a sex addiction yes. And extreme behaviour indicates something! It may not be bad, but require more investigation. There are many negative reasons for high n count in men or women. Ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 05:53 PM
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So... the guys who do that DON'T get laid, which was my original point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 05:47 PM
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If a man can have sex with a woman, he can be in a relationship with one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 05:47 PM
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Dream on
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 05:45 PM
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Strawman PUA that RP and BP alike make fun of?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 05:26 PM
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So in these examples, are these the same guys getting laid? The ones begging and desperate are the ones getting laid a lot? hmm
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 05:21 PM
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Haha so your argument is the men who say "omg!!! I need sex to get my n count higher!! pls girls have sex with me! have sex with me!" are the ones getting laid? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 05:21 PM
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Right, I don't understand your point. Men hate dating nagging, bp , high n count women, but don't mind fucking them. Women don't have problems getting men to fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 05:18 PM
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Lol, what? you're example is exactly my point. Sounds like your "emotional problems" weren't really problems if you ended up in a relationship with a low n count girl as a high n count male.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 05:16 PM
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Why do you think that is? Because they choose to do so, or because they have no other option?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 05:15 PM
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It depends on the crowd you are running with OO got me. Sure cucks will love these girls. I'm talking about normal heterosexual monogamous men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 05:14 PM
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ONS is not even good sex in your opinion. And isn't something a mature guy should still be chasing. It indicates he is still measuring his self-worth that way. No one is "chasing n count". It naturally happens when you have plenty of opportunities for casual sex. You seriously think the only men who have had slept with a good amount of women are sex-addict lunatics?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 05:13 PM
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Clearly your two examples aren't real self esteem or confidence. Stop straw manning.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 05:09 PM
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Pretty female sided view. Most men do not have the opportunity to say "hey you know what, I'm having too much sex." Because getting casual sex is relatively difficult in tbe first place. It's funny because Bloopers constantly argue being a well rounded individual makes you better with women, except now your whole argument revolves around dispelling that belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 01:22 PM
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Well the "emotional issues" That make women promiscuous are confidence issues, self esteem, daddy issues, etc. These emotional issues in a man WOULD NOT get them laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 01:17 PM
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But you claim that promiscuous men have no issues because men with issues can't be promiscuous. Short of crackhouse orgies or whatever "gotcha" scenarios you're referring to, confident men with no emotional issues get more women. Yes really. Sexism reflects some sort of conflict with the sex you consider to be inferior. If you think sexism counts as an "emotional issues" then you could label any man has "emotional issues". Sexism is such a vague term and feminists apply it to any opinion they do…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 01:15 PM
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Maybe that's why we disagree on the lock and key analogies all that much because we don't ignore the obvious signs of emotional damage just because he gets laid every weekend. This idea that all promiscuous men have mental issues is laughably absurd. Would you say the same about women? Then why does it happen all the time? It doesn't. Most promiscuous men understand female nature. And more often than not the promiscuous men pick ms. slut because they don't care about her n-count because they kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 01:08 PM
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The standards for dating and fucking are much different
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 01:02 PM
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That's not really my point. Being a slut is unattractive for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 01:01 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 03:48 AM
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interesting take on things
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 03:47 AM
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maybe that's true because the sluts have already divorce their men. https://ifstudies.org/blog/counterintuitive-trends-in-the-link-between-premarital-sex-and-marital-stability/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 03:46 AM
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We have different ideas of "absolute prude"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 03:35 AM
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It's not. You just have the false Alpha = insane criminal retard mentality. Anyways I said high value, not alpha. Throw more semantics at me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 03:25 AM
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stable, dependable, and morally outstanding me So not having emotional issues = stable, dependable, and morally outstanding. hmm
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 03:20 AM
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Yea mental stability is real beta
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 03:19 AM
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There is a such thing as a slut. Sluts live life according to the belief that sex is nice and pleasure is good for you. It's neither good or bad, like EATING shit or never showering. Sluttiness just is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 03:08 AM
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Ah yes, every man is pining for the unashamed sluts. Is this why most women lie about their n counts?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 03:04 AM
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And that proves most men want to be in relationships with sluts?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 03:02 AM
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I should have said drug "abuse". Drug abuse is a reflection and a cause for all kinds of issues, including emotional. I think we're getting confused over each other's definition of promiscuous. I wasn't thinking of crackhouse orgies when I think of the word promiscuous. Sexism is also a reflection of some kinds of emotional problems. Not really Low and average intelligence aren't emotional issues, but they aren't attractive to women according to TRP since women are hypergamous sluts that want th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 03:01 AM
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Yea god forbid people are judged based on their actions!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 02:56 AM
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It's almost insulting to women if you're argument relies on the fact men with emotional issues get more pussy than men without.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 02:55 AM
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They hate dating them
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 02:53 AM
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Tiposk claimed that Very promiscuous men with emotional issues tend to attract very promiscuous women with similar issues. Not true. Because many promiscuous men are just high valued emotionally stable "Alfalfas". And, my apologies, but I was thinking in the contexts of average people, not super super promiscuous bad boy criminals. Yea I should have said "some" or "most" but my point still stands. In reality, there are plenty of high value, stable men who would pump and dump women with emotional…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 02:52 AM
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Yea, and also, men with emotional issues COULD be attractive, while women with emotional issues aren't. Big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 02:45 AM
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Uh did you read what you linked?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 02:43 AM
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Men who are promiscuous are more likely to use drugs, be sexist, be of lower intelligence I didn't know these were "emotional issues" haha. They are also more likely to be psychopaths and to report criminal and delinquent behavior and they are less likely to be sexual satisfied in their marriages. None of this matters if these "issues" are attractive to women. If promiscuous women were unattractive because they have "issues" it wouldn't be equivalent to the men who have "issues" they're not equa…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 02:41 AM
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I understand what you're trying to argue but it's non sequitur. If it's an "emotional issue" that attracts a bunch of women, it's not really any issue in the context of what tiposk said.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 02:30 AM
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You're just listing all emotional issues that happen to be attractive to women. Which sort of goes with what I said before.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 02:22 AM
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Ofcourse, there's instances where men with emotional issues can be promiscuous bit it's not anywhere near the majority. The average girl can be promiscuous if she wants, easily. The average man can't, or has to try much harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 02:17 AM
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damn, good point
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 02:15 AM
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No one hates sluts, they just don't want to LTR them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 02:13 AM
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I think you're ignoring the fact that men just don't want to be in relationships with sluts sluts. Yea it's an indicator of bad character but that's not really the main reason men avoid these women. You don't want to be the guy that is LTRing a girl that was fuckbuddies with 10 other men. It's embarrassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 02:01 AM
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A woman who's high n-count could be a very busy chick who knows what she wants in the bedroom and knows how to get it. Or, she could be someone who seeks validation from other people due to a lack of self-esteem and sees sleeping around as a way to gain approval. So all the sudden it matters what reasons she has to be a slut? Men aren't attracted to sluts because of what her personality might be like, they're not attracted to sluts because they're not attracted to sluts. No one wants to be in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 01:58 AM
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Uhh what are we talking about here? LTR's or fwb?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 01:52 AM
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Very promiscuous men with emotional issues huh? Very promiscuous men don't have emotional issues. If they did, they'd never be able to be promiscuous. More often than not, the promiscuous men get pick of the litter when it comes to women, and the non-promiscuous men settle with ms. slut because they can't do any better. When a man complaints about women being mega sluts it says more about the kind of company they keep than about women. No men, short of cucks, want to be in a long term relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 01:50 AM
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Exactly, attraction doesn't have to be logical. Ask all the women about their height preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 01:46 AM
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Shaming everyone who disagrees with you isn't an argument
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 07:14 PM
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Remember kids, if you're a man and don't see the benefits to modern dating you are MISERABLE and nothing can ever help you. You're sexist. And an asshole. And a VIRGIN. LOSER
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 07:07 PM
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otherwise you're just jizzing into a machine Sounds like real sex to me. Not everyone is so dependent on validation in order to bust a nut off. It's not even real validation, women use sex all the time to exploit men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 06:57 PM
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politicians and CEOs get married, rather than visiting hookers? Sure, that might happen, on the side. However, these guys want wives. Haha it's called PR. And it would be pretty naive to say only a small amount of these alpha men get married and never have fun with whores. You actually beliebe most of these men stay loyal to their wives and dont fuck whores when you're married.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 06:55 PM
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You're coming from the assumption that sex bots are automatically an inferior product to real sex. Even now, the most alpha of men get prostitutes because of low risk and ease. Same thing with sex bots.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 05:23 AM
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Dont ask questions you already know the answer to
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 05:15 AM
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That kind of transaction bothers most, myself as well. Bothers most? haha ok Why can't a woman earn her own money and be with a man with her consciousness clean? she can Women should be as independent as possible and take lovers. Not husbands. What they should do and what they do are two different things. tell the women not to marry for money, not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 03:09 AM
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actual scientists.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 12:18 AM
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Up to you. All I'm saying is, most of the time, there is financial benefit to a woman marrying a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 12:12 AM
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she passes out duh, no one's arguing fucking a unconscious chick is ok. if she becomes paralyzed by fear. Nope, I don't care if she is scared or terrified, she needs to make an effort to show she is not consenting. Women aren't children (right?), they are held accountable for these things. Just because TRPers can only hook up with women that don't know them doesn't mean that this is true for most hookups though. In reality it's probably a guy she knew and trusted. I forgot, women are angels who …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 07:57 PM
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I don't think thats based in reality. Go on tinder as an average woman you'll get way more attention than the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 07:52 PM
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I don't know what exactly your argument is. Arguing against some vague strawman? escalation past soft limits, especially with people they don't know, you need to also teach them to recognize the signs that something went wrong. Not how law or culture works. Up to the woman to say "no, stop". As to the questions about why more people don't just live sheltered lives of complete safety, and just avoid any risky fun - ask /r/incels how healthy that's been for them. Women don't need to live sheltered…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 07:19 AM
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"Well im just as retarded as they are!! ha!"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 07:12 AM
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Is that really what you're trying to claim? only the top 20% of women are hypergamous?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 07:11 AM
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yes ALL mgtow are disgusting incels xD
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 06:13 PM
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I just don't think it's hypocritical for you to be unattracted to a trait you yourself posses. Men and women have different traits and obv find different things attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 04:37 PM
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HAHA this. Women are the ones that refuse to marry men that make less.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 08:49 AM
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The number of men who are loyal, loving, supportive, and who want to put in the effort to build something substantial are LOW. bunch of bullshit. Many spineless men will marry the first woman to give them a little sex. Just not the men you are sexually attracted to. Make money, build a business, don't have kids or don't. Party instead, fuck Chads and then get married to some beta. and occasionally fuck and have flings with men who you want to fuck and have flings with. But never the expectation …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 08:38 AM
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Idk it's definitely weird if someone only has friends of the opposite gender. At least for me
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 12:25 AM
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It's a crime to prefer to hang out with people with certain traits? Do my friends need to be racially and socioeconomically diverse as well? I suppose it is a question of what you find attractive, but I think most potential partners do not much judgement on what types of friends you have. Especially if you're attractive to them otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 12:24 AM
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link?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 11:42 PM
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Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 11:41 PM
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Long way to go before men are making less than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 10:15 PM
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They're bitching that they can't get women who are of value. Not exactly contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 10:14 PM
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nailed it, ahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 10:12 PM
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Lol would you say the same thing about women without male friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 10:11 PM
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Mixed-gender friend groups are pretty normal in my university, and they were also normal in school. I've only dated people I met socially, through friends or at parties, and they were always people who had friends of both genders. Your perspective may be biased. If you are always in mixed gendered friend group of course you will think everyone is in a mixed gender friend group. How would you even know the people who aren't? Also it's kind of semantic, what would you consider a "friend"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 10:10 PM
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Is your ideal partner a copy of yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 10:07 PM
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Lol marriage is built upon men being beta enough to chain themselves to it. The only RP marriages are ones in a culture where the marriage and divorce laws don't give women any power (Saudi Arabia)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 06:25 AM
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Chad just represents any guy that has very high SMV. They get things from women much easier than lower SMV men ever would. Not that hard of a concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 06:23 AM
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Yup, gangsters have wives and girlfriends. Pretty RP stuff you're spouting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 04:58 AM
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Why does that gross you out? Would u sleep with 60 beautiful girls if you had the chance ? this again. Just because women don't have certain standards in tastes in men doesn't mean men have to share those standards. No one cares if you're not grossed out about a man having tons of sex, everyone knows women don't care about a high n-count, only a low one. A female slut is equivalent to a male virgin, both unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 04:57 AM
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and now you're a tradcon angel woman? Do you go on /r/redpillwoman?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 04:54 AM
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Don't you see, it's easier if he's less attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 05:47 AM
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Sure but most don't
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 05:46 AM
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Hypergamy is not just "women date up". It's that most woman are only attracted to a small minority of men. Hypergamy, in most RP eyes is the 80/20 rule. 80% of women are attracted to only 20% of the men. So they engage in AF/BB because they can bang the 20%, but can't get into a relationship with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/17 11:44 PM
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It means one shouldn't go after super hot girls off the bat, but more average looking ones. Good one, Einstein. I bet most average men haven't thought of that. Btw you still need "confidence" (fake or real) In order to impress such women. perfectly proves my point You have one? You are unable to imagine any possible scenario because you don't have the experiences to make them seem credible. Haha what? You claimed there was a magical scenario where men didn't need confidence to attract a woman, n…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 06:54 AM
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seek out scenarios with women that have the most positive affirmation for men first then move onto more hotter, or higher risk of rejection Seriously, wtf does that mean? Give an example, and tell me why a man wouldn't need to at least pretend to be confident in that environment. they won't have as a high of a standard of whom to do it with as they would in college. Haha keep living in your dream world. Drunk sluts probably have less standards in college than high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 06:34 AM
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I am claiming you can fake it, but that fake will be susceptible to errors and misbehavior, leading to rejection. Hmm so what's the alternative, exactly? What on earth does bondage have to do with this question? Just saying your "high school girls that are innocent and just experimenting" aren't actually how you describe them
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 06:25 AM
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What's your point exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 06:18 AM
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Because you can act like it initially So you can "fake it"? There are no high school chads, not when you live with your parents lol.At the high school level girls are really just experimental and have a far lower threshold for looks or confidence Keep telling yourself that. I know girls that were having bondage sex at 17.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 06:17 AM
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Yea they're not "faking until making" it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 06:08 AM
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confidence comes from a succession of positive experiences, be it with women, or any activity really Useless conjecture. How would you know if all you know is "sexual confidence"? Anyways how do all those high school chads have all the confidence with no experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 06:00 AM
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Pretty much. Tradcucks are cucks like any other
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 01:58 AM
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Convince you of what?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 01:52 AM
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Yea FUCK morality who needs it anyways. I only rely on cold hard LOGIC.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 11:28 PM
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It's funny because OP thinks panhandlers are really the winners
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 11:26 PM
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Hmm really? So if something doesn't come naturally, that automatically means you aren't good at it and never will be?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 11:21 PM
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If there was no validation involved men wouldn't try nearly as hard
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 07:06 PM
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I've jerked off and had better times than fucking some girls. You're right, it is pleasurable in general, but it's not THAT great. People mainly do it to brag about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 05:39 PM
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Much like a hammer doesn't force you to plant nails, but if you want to plant nails you gotta learn how to use that hammer. I know and once you realize planting nails all day isn't all it's cracked up to be...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 05:38 PM
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vs marrying Or you know, just not marrying using your hand and paying for hookers every now and then. A few hundred bucks a month is pennies time and dignity are worth much more than money
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 01:34 AM
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There's no shortage of women looking to have casual sex and/or LTR's at any age. After a certain age, less and less women are going to have casual sex with you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 01:05 AM
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you have one source comparing population to marriages per year (irrelevant) and another claiming it's 50 (admittedly more than I thought). But still, large amounts of people getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 12:23 AM
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you replied to the wrong person
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 12:20 AM
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I'm saying it's a symptom, not a disease. I've done drugs to the where I think I've become psychotic and have certainly been "depressed"(and god, if I haven't felt "depressed", idk who has). I just don't think these are illnesses, they're just a set of actions and feelings. Considering we can't even define what consciousness is, it's quite the leap in logic to start diagnosing problems for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 12:20 AM
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ah ok, we're in agreement. I was saying RP's don't claim they they themselves love women "for who they are"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 12:15 AM
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ok, Tom Cruise.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 12:14 AM
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I agree with most of that but What red pill is pushing is that "by what ever means", men learn not to accept this and keep the balance of the trade for sex in the relationship. Which is what I'm saying, it's a futile task. If the landlord is upping the rent, and you've got no other better options, sure you can try to bluff her into thinking you do, but it may not work. You may just be paying more, tough shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 12:13 AM
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Appeal to evidence is a copout. I don't care for evidence, I talk real. baha, whatever, I'm getting trolled here btw, the second picture looks more masculine than the first.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 12:09 AM
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the incel/black pills say that because they can't imagine leaving a woman for any reason, unconditionally. And what you're saying RP do? Fucking funny. From a community that accepts the fact that "it's just your turn" or you'll lose your plate when you "lose frame", you're claiming they also say a woman will love a man unconditionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 12:08 AM
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You don't think depression is a disorder? haha no? That's not even that much of a controversial opinion. Depression and suicide are completely rational. And I'm not even mentioning the economical impact of psychiatric disorders. Oh, I'm not saying people with "psychological disorders" are good for the economy. I'm just saying they're not "ill". What's funny is that the main factor in driving the economy is something you'd describe as "unhealthy".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 12:06 AM
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RPers on here say they love women for who they RPers DO NOT say that. They love women for their bodies and their beauty, not "who they are".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 12:02 AM
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People are healed from many psychological disorders thanks to PSYCHOLOGY and PSYCHIATRY. Really, educate yourself. "disorders"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 12:01 AM
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Are you saying that satirically? It's BP's that push the notion of unconditional love.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 12:00 AM
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I thought you said nobody cared about our personal views? You're right, people only care about the society's most accepted views. You have the total right to disagree with Freud and his theories - like many psychoanalysts have done and still do until today - but to call his work pseudoscience is absurd. You need to educate yourself before saying this kind of thing. Considering psychology has a heavy problem with repeatability and any real evidence for any of it's conclusions, and the fact that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:57 PM
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Even then, money alone doesn't suddenly make you sexually attractive (trust me) ok, I'll trust you, you win. Again, you're just insisting upon yourself. I guess if the assumption is attractive people HAVE to be masculine, then of course attractive people have to be masculine. You say crap like Of course, there are popular ghey bois like KPOP bands or justin bieber, but their fans are usually teenage girls and they often act masculine despite and have handsome faces / builds with no backing or no…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:54 PM
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I like doing Some people don't like doing it. That's my point I don't like being a fat slob, getting my heart ripped appart. I'm sure you'd describe Newton or Tesla that way? Not wanting to chase pussy doesn't make you a failure
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:50 PM
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I can cite other pseudo-scientific bullshit too, doesn't really change anything. Fine, you think it's "unhealthy", but for what reason? If this "unhealthy" drive leads to what society thinks of success, what makes it unhealthy? Your opinion of it, which clearly isn't changing anytime soon. blah blah egotistical notions my ass. It's "unhealthy" to be accepted by others, you shouldn't even be on the internet. Go join a monastery or maybe become a hermit in the mountains. All the validation you nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:48 PM
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Fuck till you knock up one, then marry her. Subconsciously this is what men are doing. Arguing this is laughable. HAHA, no one wants to knock up a child and force themselves to pay for it. It only happens when they fuck up, get too drunk and go in raw dog or some catastrophy happens (condom breaks), or they're just plain irresponsible. what "is" sex? It's a when two people rub their bits together and it feels good. Protected sex IS sex, believe it or not. It also produces a feeling of validation…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:44 PM
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They wouldn't describe themselves as such
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:39 PM
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Whatever your definition of "healthy" is is where your argument stands and dies. No one cares what YOU think is healthy. If most people do it, and accept it is healthy, it's "healthy". Wanting to be accepted by others is completely healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:39 PM
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You can't defend what you said, I'm sorry. If you have money/power/status, you can be attractive, yet not masculine. Pretty simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:36 PM
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still over 50%
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:30 PM
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same
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:29 PM
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The fact that people want to be accepted by others drives pretty much everything that goes down in society. If everyone truly didn't care what others though about them, there would be complete chaos. I agree with you to a certain extent, you shouldn't derive your self worth from others alone. But, at the end of the day, everyone wants to be liked by the herd.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:29 PM
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You sound stupid trying (hard) to be a pro debater. oooh, hitting below the belt there! I'm sorry your definitions don't match your conclusions. Masculinity is act and body so, nothing to do with status or wealth?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:23 PM
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You're claiming men who want a lot of sex for validation aren't "right". I assume you mean they aren't sane. But I mean, I think many sane people want validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:22 PM
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I agree with you and I think all these factors are not good for the economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:21 PM
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A man with just those feelings being created in a woman gets friendzoned typically. or married
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:20 PM
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nothing is a form of something. I should be a poet, huh
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:19 PM
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aaaahh, so your definition of "masculinity" is changing?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:18 PM
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so in your opinion, someone cannot be attracted to someone else, unless it is mutual?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:18 PM
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Claiming that people who desire social validation are not "right" is kind of absurd. Desire is one thing, obsession is the other. and yet, who are you to draw the line? People value different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:17 PM
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Because it doesn't exist. Most people are still getting married, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:15 PM
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but if you have the absurd necessity to compulsively have sex with many different people in order to be satisfied, something is not exactly right. Hmm, would you say the same thing about people who desire wealth?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:14 PM
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And yet, one gets more women wanting them and one doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:13 PM
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Oh sry. don't we have flairs for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:11 PM
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like I don't know what else to say to this man. clearly, you said nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:11 PM
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Attraction = mutual sexual arousal doesn't have to be mutual
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:10 PM
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trust, mutual understanding, mutual interest, shared experiences, shared goals, shared beliefs What happens when these are attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:09 PM
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how is that "black pill"? I think many reds or blues would agree with you there
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:07 PM
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Maybe, maybe not. good talk
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:06 PM
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So, in order to be attractive you have to have a higher amount of testosterone? So which has more sexual options, a low testosterone prince, or a high testosterone homeless man?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:05 PM
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Chicken or the egg. Marriage 1.0 has been working for centuries
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:03 PM
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All I'm saying is I don't think men are biologically wired to "love more". It's more of an economic thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:00 PM
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the economy isn't being affected by it. Where? In the usa, gdp growth is at it's smallest in decades. But I mean it's much much more complicated than that. Hard to pinpoint if the destruction of the family is actually affecting the economy. Time will tell
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 10:59 PM
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Not a whole lot of weak-chinned and/or short masculine men have tons of sexual success. Ever heard of this thing called "status" or "money"?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 10:57 PM
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So what every male has?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 10:56 PM
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Evolutionary, you end up knocking up one or multiple. That part is simple Are men going around having sex to "knock up" women? Hell no establishing abundance mentality and self worth. and yet, you need those to get women so... catch 22? No sex? why are we in this relationship? people will argue there's more to relationships than sex
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 10:55 PM
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Would you same the same about promiscuous women?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 10:54 PM
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Men generally fall in love harder than women, and don't fall out of it as easily, so it's a defense mechanism to not commit. I agree with you until this point. I think it's a little deeper than that. Men only "fall in love harder" because women have naturally more SMV than men do. Women always have more options than men, because men have higher sex drives. You'll never have the upper hand in a monogamous relationship, because the women will always have better alternatives(usually) than the man i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 10:53 PM
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Getting free sex "free" If by free you mean, by working to be someone you naturally aren't. By "improving yourself" AKA the gym (albeit a good thing to do anyways), getting the most money you can, being the "best person you can be"(according to women), using various PUA tactics and wasting time in clubs/bars/social areas for the sole reason to get pussy. Doesn't sound that "free" to me
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 10:51 PM
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Exactly, it's all an ego boost.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 10:49 PM
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At some point, you won't be alpha, you'll be incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 10:48 PM
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TRP tells you to do whatever the fuck you want Idk does it? They mock mgtow at times and push a "lift and get money" kind of life. There's a lot of tradconny shit in there pushing men to stop playing video games/ being neets and earn money/lift in order to pursue women. However, it reminds you that women are yours really? Because I've heard so much "it's just your turn" kind of stuff on there. It's understood you can't "spin the same plate" forever. The end goal is to be happy and to be the best…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 10:47 PM
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what's your definition of "masculinity"?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 10:43 PM
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Yea, no shit
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 09:40 PM
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Sure, failing is stressful. Failing because of circumstances someone can't control is incredibly agitating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 07:56 PM
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I think you're reading into it way too much. Men just want to be validated sexually. Women having sex with them = validation. Lots of women, lots of validation. None, no validation. They see men having sex with seemingly less effort than them and it takes a hit on their ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 07:35 PM
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you have to be masculine to be attractive hmmm, really? lot's of skinny jean wearing musicians who bang harems of women are sure "masculine"?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 07:32 PM
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Presumably. Who takes care of future children at this point? the state? All I'm saying is marriage 1.0 was a pretty good model
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 07:06 PM
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No, because not every woman is be going to be having heaps of casual sex. Who cares? what if most are? And who cares about the ones that do? They are not hurting anyone. Basically society thrives when men work like slaves to support their families (wives and children). If men stop marrying women because women are too promiscuous, the economy will take a hit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 06:41 PM
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Nice strawmans. No one said it's ALWAYS a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 12:33 AM
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Haha "don't they have the privilege of dying as cannon fodder for higher powers?"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 12:32 AM
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no shit men AND women can vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 12:31 AM
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but many average looking poor men on the bottom rungs of society aren't dying virgins. What does this mean? It doesn't really matter if you "die a virgin". Being unsatisfied sexually sucks
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 05:46 AM
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Women's sex drives increase in LTRs to the point that they statistically become equal to their partner's after a few months. citation needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 05:45 AM
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That's what kids are led to think Yea i learned it in grade school
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 05:44 AM
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The biggest problem I have found with this is that the process of making yourself more attractive to women (if that is truly your central goal, for me its an understood side reward of many things I want to do) ends up improving you in so many ways. If you're improving yourself only for the validation of women, you're pretty BP and pedalizing. Long term intimacy with somebody I like to be around, yeah that is the goal. Good luck! Marriage is really a great option legally and financially these day…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 02:57 AM
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In their best interests, they should. But just because he pretends to be one thing, doesn't make him that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 02:50 AM
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woman It's just a word, jeesh
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 02:45 AM
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women are always like waaahwaahhh why do you hate women and its because they've never dated their own friends as a man Oh, I thought it was some feminist pysop in order to guilt men into providing more
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 02:35 AM
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Why wouldn't women want to differentiate themselves from the hypergamous CC-riding cheating whores who can't love that TRP makes them out to be? In their best interests, they should. But just because she pretends to be one thing, doesn't make her that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 02:33 AM
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Oh look a "benign" woman that can't affect politics at all (only evil white men control the Patriarchy we live in) actively pushing marxism. But thankfully, women have no way of affecting politics; besides the fact that they can do what any male can do to affect it, VOTE. It's almost as if women have way more political and cultural power than OP is trying to make it out to seem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 02:30 AM
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Obviously, mr. following me around. only doing it cause you keep saying stuff I disagree with. (Damn you) That doesn't explain why RPers like to differentiate themselves, as a group, from the men they don't want to be associated with. Do they? Rper's don't ALL consider themselves super alpha males. Many are even "monk mode" and not in the SMP at all. They differentiate themselves from betas and nices guys because they have completely different philosophies. Why wouldn't they want to differentiat…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 02:27 AM
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This is true. Men want certain things out of women that they don't expect to get from other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 02:23 AM
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Damn! Wish that effect took place during any war in human history, instead of on internet posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 02:22 AM
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AWALT is a statistic safeguard. It's not meant to be taken literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 02:21 AM
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I realize you haven't been here THAT long, but certainly you have gotten the overall flavor of this sub which is that women are shit and men are great. What is this? Mean girls? "You don't even go here!!" but certainly you have gotten the overall flavor of this sub which is that women are shit and men are great. certainly! Anything you're certain about must be true!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 02:18 AM
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I want all of these men to list out their worst fears and then face them one by one, in their own way. See how long they stay single. haha is that some sort of ultimate goal, not to be single? Be logical about things. Don't waste your life chasing pussy. Don't beg and plead for things that others get for free. If someone had convinced me earlier that sex is a fleeting reward and will not fill the void in my life, I'd save myself a lot of time and hassle. Go ahead and fight your war and win your …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 02:12 AM
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Average men are mainly in relationships for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 02:05 AM
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It's a moot point anyways. In your mind any incel has not "tried enough" or "improved" enough
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 02:00 AM
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Well then who are you talking about? Incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 01:59 AM
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But it wouldn't be possible, in your mind, that they're just unattractive, even at their best?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 01:55 AM
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It is hard for me to imagine that an average guy can't get a girlfriend this way. Average guys don't really want girlfriends. They want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 01:54 AM
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And if they did?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 01:52 AM
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It's annoying? why, cause you disagree with it? Is it wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 01:48 AM
1

And what do you say to the men that do improve themselves and still struggle?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 01:43 AM
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Nothing to do with looks or status or wealth though, god forbid
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 01:39 AM
2

Super-meta satire?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 01:37 AM
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if someone finds you attractive and you find them attractive huh? What is it, like a coin flip? some people have more people attracted to them than others. Pretty insane to think otherwise. open your eyes
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 01:36 AM
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most men are leeches and can't be trusted. TIL So like why all the love for random guys who, who most have of the time haven't done anything at all? Want to give an example of this? Most TRPer's shit on beta males, white knights, and "nice guys" as much as BPer's do
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 01:33 AM
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In actuality, it's likely a mix of things, including their own crappy personalities. prove it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 01:31 AM
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You going to ignore the fact that women vote these men in?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 01:30 AM
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Strong anecdotal evidence there. just think about being in someone else's shoes, the good always comes with bad in life, and they do not necessarily balance out the way you wish sounds like a bunch of communist trippy gobbldy gook to me
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 01:22 AM
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YEa but I mean, RP in belief right? Isn't that contradictory? TRP's all about coming on top by playing the degenerate culture's game
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 01:18 AM
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Very dependent on a woman's opinion of you, eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 03:29 PM
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go onto /r/incel they could use your help
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 03:27 PM
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Typical 3rd wave fem tactic. It's an attack on your masculinity, because you're not attracted to something you "fear" it, you pussy!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 03:26 PM
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threatened by sexually active women. Is this some sort of attack on masculinity? That's the hill you're going to die on? Men are threatened by sexually active women? Are these sexual active women armed and dangerous? It's inconceivable to you that a slut could be unattractive to a man, funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 03:25 PM
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You say getting something rare isnt impressive who cares if it's "impressive" or not? Is the ultimate goal of sex to brag about it to other people? Maybe for some, not for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 03:18 PM
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If your goal is to be "impressive"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 03:15 PM
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Tradcon RP What does this mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 03:10 PM
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I don't think most well thought out opinions are based on "Evil wimmins destroyed society". I think it's more of a tradcon thing of "loose sexuality, no monogamy, and degenerate culture let to it's downfall. Both genders at fault
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 03:09 PM
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No shit, sherlock. Marriage rates are dropping like a rock for various reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 03:06 PM
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If you continue hassling someone who clearly doesn't want to be hassled, it's rude. You don't have any obligation to stop on the street for every guy that hits on you. It's not "rude" to ignore people when they bother you.\ it's a good thing? attention from the opposite sex is rarely a bad thing
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 03:04 PM
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"The government" still has lots of enforceable power over single people. Like what? Only way to risk your assets and children is through marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 03:02 PM
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realise that both too much and too little of something can be detrimental in different ways? So, no, you're saying you don't have the brain power to understand that they're not detrimental in the same magnitude. Like seriously you want us to feel bad for you because you got too much attention? get over yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 08:31 AM
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mgtow
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 08:29 AM
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I have enough empathy to appreciate the opposite (that having very little sexual attention must be very hurtful), don't you? not equivalent
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 08:27 AM
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Real "black pilled" huh
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 07:24 AM
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your "getting results" just equals lots of casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 07:23 AM
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If he believed the things he said, he'd never be in an LTR
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 05:55 AM
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That does not an entity create. ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 05:54 AM
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Casual sex isn't the ultimate goal to many men. There's this thing called prostitution which guarantees you sex consistently
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 05:52 AM
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knew it was eggman before I even clicked. Yea, he's full blown BP. He's got a girlfriend now and thinks lifes great
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 05:50 AM
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A society is nothing more than the collection of individuals who comprise it. Mhmm and there are a lot of shared beliefs between individuals
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 05:49 AM
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LOL not black pill, that's incel
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 05:12 AM
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If you want to pretend every guy that has hit on you has also stalked you on your phone and social media, sure, I guess it could be annoying to a certain extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 05:05 AM
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more fish in the sea!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 05:03 AM
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Doesn't really make sense IMO. what does social competence and personal philosophy have to do with eachother?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 05:03 AM
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that's functionally the same as TRP's pedestalization how? It's not "incel pill" anyways more of a "mgtow" pill (although they got some problems). The "anti-degenerate" Tradcon pill is the most BP pedestalization you can get. What's your ideology? Deny yourself casual sex, but marry a slut because otherwise you're "degenerate"?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 04:25 AM
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quite the statement pessimistic != social competence
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 04:22 AM
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Imagine if you were forced to wear uncomfortable shoes all the time, maybe they are too small or stiff, whatever. Now, what you want to do is take off your shoes, think of what you would think of some little twerp telling you, "why do you want your shoes off? You should simply be happy with the shoes you have." That's effectively what you are doing right now. why is it so absurd to say this is a mental illness? If I said I felt uncomfortable because I wasn't a dolphin, should doctors fuse my leg…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 04:20 AM
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(over email) or maybe a subreddit..
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 03:48 AM
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want a cool name Kind of. I don't hate transgenders, I just think trans people that don't pass are creating way more problems for themselves than if they just stayed their original gender. I think any gender can act any way, and claiming to be a different gender in your mind is just building upon rigid gender norms. I just don't understand the mindset of a trans person. Why not act the way you want, while staying the original gender? Why do you need society to tell you it's ok to act certain way…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 03:47 AM
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Nor do I
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 03:40 AM
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Why is your flair red? Once you go black, you never go back.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 03:39 AM
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Poor thing! I have the same problem. I try to formulate mathematical proofs on the bus and some dimwitted young attracted woman comes up to me and offers herself to me! Fucking bitches, I would have solved Riemann's hypothesis by now if they didn't interrupt.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 03:38 AM
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what makes an alt an alt? Am I an alt? why idk Maybe you're my alt, and I'm just replying to myself!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 03:35 AM
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Why you need an alt for this thread I have no idea I have a radfem alt. not a big deal
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 03:31 AM
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It's rude to ignore people who are talking to you in our society. It's rude to bother people too interrupted your train of thought. what a terrible injustice! Seriously, is that your argument? Being attractive to the opposite sex is bad because when YOU decide to engage in conversation with someone who is attracted to you, you lose your train of thought? Man, how can you live like that!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 03:25 AM
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SMV/RMV really have little to do with wanting to have arguments with others. My theory is that people find this sub by first finding TRP, disagreeing or agreeing with it, questioning their own beliefs, and realizing TRP, TBP or any other type of relationship/life advice subreddit is an echo chamber. PPD provides for what some people actually want, real discourse. I got muted from TRP for disagreeing with an "endorsed" commenter. I am banned from MGTOW for arguing that women are capable of voting…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 03:18 AM
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You take down names of everyone you reply to? But yea, it is kind of warm to see comments from people who you know will have a certain opinion, even if they're so wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 03:11 AM
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Feminine is gentle, maternal, kind. Not mean, responsibility-dodging, or cunning.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 02:55 AM
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I guess me and you have a different definition of "feminine"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 02:51 AM
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I'm just tuggin ur clit. I'm sure you're a great decision maker
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 02:45 AM
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Lol what? There's no downsides to people being attracted to you. You can always just ignore them, and if you can't, that's your fault not theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 02:45 AM
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wasn't my intention but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 02:43 AM
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ooo good one. But you're right, funny is not really the right word. More contradictory, absurd, silly? Still, I do find it humorous. It's also humorous to see a response to my comment with "you have no right to comment here!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 02:40 AM
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name some examples of these "incentives"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 02:37 AM
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Want me to tell you about the football players that tried to get with me? One in particular was very persistent and he is in the NFL now. What is this supposed to mean? Are you bragging or something? Srsly. Why are you even participating in this thread? cause I find it funny when women complain about things that everyone wants; being seen as attractive to many people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 02:22 AM
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Is there a REAL marriage alternative? Depends what you want out of marriage. Breed and the child not have a toxic mentality of their parents so they can be a functional adult marriage doesn't even guarantee that. It's a wish that you want. Whether or not you think an alternative is REAL or not doesn't mean alternatives don't exist. If you have a philosophical need to create a child with a healthy family growing up, marriage is probably your best bet.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 02:20 AM
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And what, BP's not?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 02:10 AM
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Well getting married and having kids is a terrible financial decision. You know how much money you waste doing that? And what return? No guarantee you get anything back.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 02:09 AM
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I think that is the core desire of the blue pilled. Many RP have the desire too. They just understand the realities surrounding it, but I'm sure you know that. Is it pointless to want that? Or is it a risk mitigation exercise. So that's really you're real question? You can mitigate the risk all you want, but you know it's still there. So, I mean it's up to you. Obtaining a +100k salary in bumfucknowhereville with a small harem seems more do able than a legal marriage. Like casual stuff? Obviousl…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 02:06 AM
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transgenderism is a real thing real in what way? what do you call non feminist men who are terfs?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 02:02 AM
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I don't get it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 01:57 AM
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So annoying getting sexual attention!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 01:56 AM
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Yea, join the club. you think dating advice will fill this void?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 01:54 AM
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You put so much emphasis on breeding, you HAVE to be blue pilled in order to get married and raise children. Not a RP decision to allow a woman and her government to have so much power over you and your assets. I guess you could donate sperm, rape, or go out and impregnate a bunch of random chicks and pay up child support. Have fun
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 01:52 AM
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You're listing off websites like they're religions. What do you want us to tell you? Do what you think is best.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 01:49 AM
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do you consider yourself a TERF?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 01:48 AM
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Mgtow
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 01:44 AM
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This is one person. Not women as a whole
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 11:00 PM
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What are you saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 11:00 PM
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Marriage usually happens with expectation of kids not always
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 10:27 PM
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Women are attracted to you enough to fuck you every day, sometimes more than once in a day? Hmmm he made no mention of how often he actually gets it, just when he's horny he gets it. SO I made the assumption that he's not horny very often, because he's probably not Brad Pitt and people don't have harems of women laying around to fuck them every minute of the day
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 10:25 PM
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sounds more like childfree than MGTOW
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 10:22 PM
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I just don't believe him. Being male myself, I'd think either his sex drive would have to be low or he's Brad Pitt.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 10:21 PM
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Why's that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 10:21 PM
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If legal prostitution would lead to low marriage/LTR rates we already have several countries for which we could look to marriages are not LTR's. People would get married less often because of laws and culture surrounding it in various regions of the world. We already know many men are paying for sex illegally in the usa. Why is that? because they demand sex. Another way to get sex is through casual flings (rare) and LTR's (timely and hard to manage). Do LTR's ONLY exist because men want sex, no,…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 10:20 PM
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There's dozens of them!!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 10:13 PM
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"Q4M: do you want more sex?" men: "yes"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 10:12 PM
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They'd just have the privilege of being more selective with their partners
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 10:12 PM
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Hm does that explain the billion dollar female prostitution industry?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 10:11 PM
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That's what women are becoming anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 10:10 PM
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Which is not what "equal sex drive" is
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 10:10 PM
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Kind of like how men think rn?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 10:09 PM
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Utopia
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 10:08 PM
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Personally I have never been with someone who was not willing to have sex whenever I was horny You seriously going to sit here and pretend you get sex whenever you want it? LOW T
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 10:07 PM
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Just makes you a bad decision maker
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 10:03 PM
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You need to study up on your economics. Legalization always decreases price.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 10:03 PM
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It's not a real group; no one self identifies as it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 09:59 PM
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strawman city
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 09:59 PM
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Curious, are you male or female?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 09:56 PM
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Few feminist are pro legalization
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 08:56 PM
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Work to do what? Make a girl smile? Yea all the time. Get a man laid? Rarely
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 08:52 PM
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feminists who advocate for safe, legalized prostitution if they all supposedly fear the "pussy cartel"? No feminists do this
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 08:50 PM
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So if you have a cut on your arm, should you cut the arm off?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 08:47 PM
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Because it's hard for most men to get casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 08:46 PM
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I don't agree, but let's assume it's true. Who am I yo say "hey women. You should be attracted to people who aren't confident!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 08:46 PM
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They have every obligation like anyone else. Maybe they could take care of someone else's kids
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 04:16 AM
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Yea, not in this environment
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 04:15 AM
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Do you really think most men can be "sluts"?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 04:12 AM
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They're alright. At least they don't bark
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 04:09 AM
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super offended and MAD. Nobody wants adult responsibilities, but you gotta do em. but yea, my comment was kind of off kilter. Many people want to get married and have kids, but can't in this environment, because potential partners aren't putting in the effort. Saying "they're not cut out for it, anyways" is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 04:08 AM
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I misread her comment and thought she was pitying herself as a "cat lady".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 03:58 AM
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Men can have sex as often as they want Only if women allow them. Most men have to pay for sex if they want it a lot. Men are seen as more reliable and smart in professional and academic contexts Is that why men are lagging behind in academia? (besides ofcourse, the based STEM fields which no female dares to touch) Men's salaries are still higher than women's; And older people's salaries are higher than younger peoples. Is this ageist? no it's reality. Men do higher paying jobs which usually are …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 03:51 AM
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It's rules in many religions to have tons of kids. Increases influence of the religion simply by having a large population of believers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 03:44 AM
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can you name a couple? (If you're being serious; I've never met such a stereotypical neo-feminist)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 03:36 AM
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sum them up for me real quick rn. Weird cause I was raised in a culture where men and women had completely equal rights, yet I was unaware I live in a Patriarchy! Where can I get some male privilege, I'm waiting for it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 03:28 AM
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when do you think this phase usually occurs in someone's life?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 03:26 AM
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/sigh boom and bust cycles are commonplace. yea because it has to do with a predator prey scenario or limited resources which humans do see. we can't sustain that yea cause it's SOO much different than in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 03:24 AM
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You trolling me rn? You think it has to do with some "patriarchy" conspiracy or just the fact that women like different things about men than men do about women? Women and men judge things for anything they like. For women, it's income, status, height. Men it's looks, attitude, and self-restraint. Common traits each gender is attracted to. I mean sure I guess men and women shouldn't judge eachother on anything except for the kindness in our hearts, but this is the real world. And wow, what a goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 03:22 AM
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Right, cause they could just cheat anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 03:13 AM
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Judged how? Sexually, people are judged for whatever reason the opposite gender wants. I don't attack women for not fucking short men or virgins
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 03:12 AM
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populations increase, populations decrease Ummm what? Decreasing population rarely happens and when it does it takes some sort of massive war, disease, or famine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 03:11 AM
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Respect the women's right to have sex and respect them if they do it. They're not garbage, they're not less valuable and not even less worthy than those who don't have sex as often as they do. I'm not arguing they're subhuman. I'm arguing they're less attractive in most men's minds. I bang hookers, many women would find that repulsive. Many women find virgin men repulsive. Imagine society saying that you become garbage only because you do what humans do : have sex Bahaha yea you know what else "…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 03:10 AM
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Sure being single has nothing to do with the sexual freedom it brings.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 03:05 AM
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Its pathetic you take so much offense to a word. I have nothing against sluts, they're actually pretty great. I'd just never date/marry one and neither would a lot of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 03:03 AM
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Maybe every other weekend
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 03:02 AM
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It's ironic because you're the one trying to tell me what I should be attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 03:02 AM
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Well in Japan their population is decreasing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 02:59 AM
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How can you say what I am or am not attracted to? Women are not attracted to common traits That doesn't even make sense. Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 02:55 AM
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Men and women are attractive to eachother for different reasons. I'm not attracted to sluts, you're not attracted to incels. Yea humans whatever, i dont fuck and date people just because theyre human, neither do you. Go find your cuck, I don't care. Imagine if I said "what makes you think all women are as narrow minded as you. Women love misogynist wife beating men. Stop judging"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 02:51 AM
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Just because women have different standards in men than men do towards women doesn't make one right or wrong. You could marry a virgin woman and still be a cuckold one day. Yea I want to mitigate that risk, correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 02:44 AM
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Its actually less clear than ever but whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 02:35 AM
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Yea could that be translated into culture in some way?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 02:35 AM
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Ok? You don't, it's just statistically less likely. Some men are cuckold. I'm not You can sit here and pretend you are attracted to virgin men, go on /r/incels they need ya
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 02:31 AM
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Asking questions is not "mocking". Stupid argument we'll both see things how we see things
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 02:28 AM
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Used to when I was a virgin yea. Still do if I bang certain women .
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 02:27 AM
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I'm mocking no one. I thought you were pitying yourself. But I mean, do what you think is right lol, idc
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 02:15 AM
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Well they're correlated with higher rates of infidelity for one. I don't want to be the girls 20th partner sry? I'm sorry for wanting certain things from a partner? And if you want an equivalent for men, it's called being a virgin. Women are repulsed by male virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 02:11 AM
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Yea sue me
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 02:09 AM
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Oh haha I misread your comment
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 02:06 AM
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Men have as many sex partners as they want and they don't have to be called such an offensive word. Because women don't care. But men do. You calling sexually active women "sluts" comes from the premise that women who have many sex partners are less valuable for a relationship than the ones who doesn't. And that, my friend, is a very shitty argument. Pretty solid IMO. Lock and key. Used car with miles or new one?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 02:05 AM
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Well, do you really like being a cat lady?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 02:03 AM
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one that you know of one is sad! enough. But my comment was mainly in jest
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 02:00 AM
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I forgot, no one is allowed to judge each other based on their actions!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 01:59 AM
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bunch of married people who are fine? The other bunch who aren't fine?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 01:57 AM
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clearly All I'm saying is, nobody lives their lives doing what they want all the time. Not how it works
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 01:57 AM
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Which "shitty argument" did I make?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 01:56 AM
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were
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 01:55 AM
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Sad!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 01:54 AM
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Or they just do what's expected of them No shit. That's what I'm asking, what's expected
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 01:54 AM
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Yea, the 2050's. No one wants to become monogamous with a known slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 01:52 AM
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Would you applaud if everyone started killing themselves for living lives they weren't enthusiastic about?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 01:52 AM
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been single AND sexually active. hmmm how does that work?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 01:50 AM
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Collective beliefs and cultural imperatives don't require a book or a deity to back it up. People aren't offing themselves en masse into human extinction, they feel like they have a purpose for being here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 01:48 AM
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Only sith deal in absolutes
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 01:45 AM
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You don't have one obligation on gods green earth except those imposed upon you by law or contract. that's your philosophy, not most people's
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 01:43 AM
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If you're relying on social security as your only retirement plan... you're gunna have a bad time
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 01:38 AM
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Or they could you know, just throw the baby in a forest and leave. Also, contraceptives and family planning are ancient.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 01:37 AM
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Just because you don't like doing something, doesn't make you bad at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 01:34 AM
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ok but predators eat their prey without any consent. "preying" by your definition is not a bad thing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 01:21 AM
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Some standard bearer for some Darwinian agenda Caring about the future generations of humans isn't exactly a bad thing, nor is it uncool.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 01:19 AM
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Only danger of pollution is that it might kill humans. Same with lack of resources and food.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 01:17 AM
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depends how old you are
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 01:14 AM
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too many people in the world too many people for what? There's plenty more space
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 01:14 AM
1

they probably weren't cut out for it anyway. In what sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 01:13 AM
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I'm sure that kind of attitude leads to a ton of progress.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 01:13 AM
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And the full function autonomous woman decides what to do with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 01:12 AM
2

outside of dating or relationships. and how often did these happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 01:07 AM
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Most everyone has a slut period in their life, men and women alike. quite the statement
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 01:06 AM
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Most of my friends were/are in several long term relationships with some gaps in between where they dated casually And how many is "several"?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 01:06 AM
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Neither is society, the internet, or any other great works of human kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 01:03 AM
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What does that mean you don't "believe" in monogamy?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 12:39 AM
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not sure how a grown woman get's "preyed" upon though..
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 12:25 AM
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He prayed on them??
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 12:08 AM
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Because feminists really just want to control the pussy cartel, prostitution cheapens the only thing they have to offer, sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 11:34 PM
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Kinda like what everyone does when they realize they're options aren't limitless ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 07:22 AM
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Don't use false semantics to make a point
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 04:20 PM
1

Not gas lighting
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 12:41 AM
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Not what gas lighting means
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 07:34 PM
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Sure seems like it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 05:14 PM
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Very RP. abundance mentality, numbers, setting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 05:14 PM
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Anything that involves direct or indirect deception of any kind. Kind of like, make-up? Simply put, if you want lots of casual sex with no commitment, you just let the women you meet with and attract know this up front and then leave it up to them to say 'yay or nay.' Now, the part about attracting them... yea I want that part
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 05:13 PM
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how is negging "gaslighting"?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 05:12 PM
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Lol what, you think I'm some sort of feminist?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 02:38 PM
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Most poor people buy lots of stupid shit. It's part of the reason they're poor. Women happen to naturally like to spend more.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 02:34 PM
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RIP in peace
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 02:28 PM
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Yea I would
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 02:23 PM
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high school crush burned ya?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 04:39 AM
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It's just funny you make it sound like there's a war going on and every male is using the same tactics to get what they want. it takes a long time to develop/practice new tactics and a very brief amount of time for women to get wise to them. You think there's a lab somewhere where men meet up and formulate "tactics"? Haha yea we need another Manhattan project to get that drunk slut at the bar. You make it seem like someone is losing when a guy charms a woman into sleeping with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 04:38 AM
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Idk what you're talking about, specifically. TRP doesn't subscribe to every PUA "tactic" in your book. Conversation in real life is not a rigid set of tricks. Being likeable and charming isn't exactly unattractive to most women. "Oh no! I'm starting to like this guy, but I know he's just using techniques from elsewhere, I gotta stop liking this guy!"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 04:33 AM
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what the hell are you talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 04:28 AM
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Take it easy, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 04:25 AM
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Not all RPers!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 04:21 AM
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Kind of like any other drug. Makes the highs higher and the lows lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 04:20 AM
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You talking about PUA tactics or something? Being high value will never go out of style.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 04:18 AM
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In platonic relationships it's valued when someone gives you something for nothing in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 02:30 AM
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But this isn't all women doing this. Neither do all TRPers Immoral is strong. Douchey what's the difference, really?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 02:22 AM
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objectification, plate spinning, mind games and gaslighting. Isn't this equivalent to some women seeing men as atm's, cheating/branchswinging, and playing mind games as well? They're just gaming a system to their benefit. Those are aspects talked about in TRP that I don't agree with. you don't agree because you think it is immoral or because you think it doesn't work?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 01:49 AM
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Well then they attack them for different reasons. They attack alphas because they won't give them commitment and will claim it's immoral not to. They attack "nice guys" because BPers think they are too pathetic and don't deserve the sex they desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 01:45 AM
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You mean immoral? why would amoral shit matter? But I think it's the only way, because I think it's amoral to force your own agenda on someone disregarding theirs Do you think this is the main reason TRP's sexual strategy is critiqued? Conflict of interests? Let's say, for the sake of argument, women want more committed relationships, while men want more casual sex. Does each gender have an obligation to compromise?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 01:38 AM
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So how is this different from TRP's "focus on yourself" and "abundance mentality" ideas?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 01:33 AM
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What motive would a woman have to be careful in the past? Who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 01:31 AM
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I get it's satire, but I don't get your point
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 01:30 AM
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Do you think these differ from RP strategies?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 01:28 AM
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You think a problem could occur if most women have different goals than most men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 01:28 AM
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Many guys think its gross when a woman smokes, even if he smokes himself Do they? I don't smoke (often) but a woman smoking is kind of hot for some reason. not be fat. pretty sure that goes for both genders What don't you get about standard gender norms? Women are expected to do things that are feminine. Men and their testosterone usually do riskier things such as drink a lot,get in fights, gamble their money away; its cool. Women are expected to be gentle, reserved, and maternal. Women usually …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 01:26 AM
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How are varied gender norms "objectification"?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 01:20 AM
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That used to be the case. Not so anymore. Have you seen black people lately? They think they can act any way they want. They think they can do anything they want, anywhere they want, anytime they want. They think they can say anything they want, to anyone they want, anytime, anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 01:20 AM
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He's saying men pay most of the taxes, build all the buildings, and die in all the wars.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 01:19 AM
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Sure, if you choose to view it that way. There's plenty of dogmatic "be yourself!!" and "looks don't matter" that TBP pushes though. Generalizing and trying to game a system will many times give you more results than being ignorant of it or denying it exists. Men aren't necessarily brought up to exhibit the perfect mix of stoicism and expressiveness that you're trying to describe. Some men genuinely believe women will be attracted to men that will be a doormat and do anything she wants them to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 01:18 AM
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They've got to find their path, figure out who they are, what they want, how to play up to their strengths and how to be themselves. sounds quite RP. improve yourself and abundance mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 12:56 AM
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What indicates they are not nice?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 12:41 AM
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What are you promoting, then? No false equivalence pizza cooking allowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 12:40 AM
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When he says "bad boys" he's probably referring to low value men that fail when using pua tactics because there SMV isn't high enough. Or, alpha men, that don't commit to women who are entitled to their commitment. "fuck boys" BPers attack both of these
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 12:38 AM
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"You aren't worthy of pussy, beta"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 12:37 AM
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So, like the attractive ones are ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 12:35 AM
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You're claiming wealth and power have nothing to do with attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 12:34 AM
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Appearing smooth to who? blue pillers or red?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 12:32 AM
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You have every obligation to refute his strawman!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 12:31 AM
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And they're also mostly fiction
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 12:29 AM
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What evidence do you have that "nice guys" aren't actually nice?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 12:29 AM
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TBP doesn't decry "bad boys" they only decry the low tier beta "bad boys" that are opaquely putting up a fake act. A successful "bad boy" that gets a lot of women wouldn't be a "bad boy" in their eyes; they'd be charming and cute. TBP attacks beta men of any form; whether it's the ugly pussy male trying to get sex with compliments and gifts, or the ugly pussy male putting up a pathetic "bad boy" act. There are also many women and blue pillers that are entitled to alpha male commitment. They thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 12:22 AM
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So you're claiming a low tier man has as much opportunity to get a girlfriend as a low tier woman could get sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 12:17 AM
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Female solipsism strikes again
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 03:51 PM
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Not if they're just doing it to deceive you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 09:25 PM
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Ya whatever. Good luck only follow laws you want to follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 09:24 PM
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I'm sure that's what they all mean ;) women would NEVER be attracted to wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 09:08 PM
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I know, they never catch you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 09:05 PM
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Badass over here. How's those speeding tickets going?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 09:02 PM
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there's saying something and then there's doing something
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 09:01 PM
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ur missing out on some good shit!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 09:01 PM
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education is worthwhile for it's own sake How much, exactly is it worth for it's own sake? 4 years of your life and tons of debt? if you can't even acknowledge the value of higher education I think you're a giant twat. You're a twat when you make terrible financial decisions as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 08:57 PM
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spiritually successful? So like, not successful, but you want to think otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 08:55 PM
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I'm sure you got tons of wisdom from that underwater basket weaving degree
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 08:54 PM
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$ucce$$ful
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 08:52 PM
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Of course every woman who wasted her prime years getting a worthless degree will argue whatever it takes that she should be considered more attractive. She didn't waste anything. She had a blast in college. You act like the majority of women actually have to try hard to get their useless degrees. You can't go around failing girls, that's sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 08:52 PM
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She's an idiot for being pressured into doing stupid things.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 08:47 PM
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What's so circle jerky and incely about my post? I'm sorry my opinions offend you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 08:45 PM
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Intense you say? shrooms not intense enough for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 08:40 PM
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yea he's a dummy for not choosing meth
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 08:37 PM
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You're going to get burned if you stay emotional because it makes you vulnerable to greedy women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 08:04 PM
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Forgot what I was arguing tbh fam
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 08:03 PM
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Exactly its a waste of time and money
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 08:02 PM
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You have to give a fuck if you want sex
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 08:01 PM
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K
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 08:00 PM
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Is that all it takes? Hm
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 07:59 PM
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Its, DGAF about anything you don't want to for you. and never get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 07:31 PM
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That's what you are when you dont give a fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 07:30 PM
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Most men are heavily disillusioned and aren't working in their own best interests, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 07:26 PM
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Work myself to death to get shallow validation from others? No thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 07:25 PM
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So you do admit it IS work though, so you GAF
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 07:24 PM
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I bet you totally understand, as a female in a hypergamous society.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 07:24 PM
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Learning skills to game a system means you "give a fuck" about the system.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 07:22 PM
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my b
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 07:09 PM
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Women know when youre faking though nah
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 07:02 PM
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ah gotcha
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 07:01 PM
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Lol sounds specific
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 07:01 PM
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Most jobs don't give a fuck about small offenses like these though
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 06:59 PM
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I would lose my license For what? maybe if you get a DUI; most possession charges don't affect your license. Probably varies by state.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 06:58 PM
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I can only imagine what you think the life of a "dealer" is. Most are normal people selling shit on the side occasionally, it's not a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 06:56 PM
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This is more about your personal attitude towards recreational drugs than it is relationships. The idea of dating a women who takes that attitude towards drugs seems shitty and boring IMO. But, I mean it's your partner, it's up to you what expectations you put on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 06:54 PM
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I'd be wayyy too paranoid about getting caught Yea cause the DEA is chasing paper trails and busting down doors to catch people smoking their eighths (Actually they probably are, the DEA is retarded). I don't understand why people are so stingy about such silly matters. You live your whole life being afraid of getting caught for misdemeanor(if that) offenses?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 06:51 PM
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Cause there's a reason you have to try so hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 06:49 PM
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I know it's like they're a bunch of children who are afraid of getting caught chewing gum in class.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 06:48 PM
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Sounds like a bunch of pussies to me. Little bit of green never killed anyone. Grow up and if it bothers you, leave. I never purchased illegal drugs in my entire life. I don't even illegally download anymore because of guilt of breaking the law. uhh LOL well news flash, lots of people don't think like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 06:46 PM
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Women are shamed for casual sex. Those that want it still have it. Yea and men get prostitutes. Oldest profession in the world, billions of dollars in the industry. First of all, not everywhere. Secondly, are anti soliciting laws enforced that seriously in Canada/America? No, but it shows the attitude of the society that places those laws in the first place. Johns are seen as scummy low lifes who couldn't get pussy other wise. My point is, there's a reason far more men cohabit and marry than ban…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 06:43 PM
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Most prefer both (duh)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 06:40 PM
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Male here coming to answer all ur questions so that the wimminz don't have to (keep your pretty little fingers rested). To what extent can you "smell" the slightest hint of thirstiness/desperation on a man? It's like knowing when a girl is a slut or not. Sometimes they hide it better, sometimes they don't. Women are not the social deities that they're made out to be, you can deceive them if you know how. That being said, some are much more perceptive than others. Why exactly is thirstiness/despe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 06:37 PM
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Being a hermit outcast doesn't get you laid. TRP advocates for approaching and pua tactics as much as they do with their whole "improve yourself" narrative. It's a waste of time and money chasing women and it certainly is "giving a fuck".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 06:27 PM
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Who cares what pussy chases? I'm sure the guy that gets all the pussy is here on the internet bragging about it because he totally doesn't give a fuck. You have a dependence mentality about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 06:25 PM
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why wouldn't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 06:22 PM
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I'm confused, are you trying to bang this girl? If I was, then no I wouldn't be eager show her to my super alpha friend. That would be a stupid move because then she'll bang him instead of me (pretty simple stuff here). Still, good friends don't steal your girls, and I wouldn't try to mess with girls THEY were trying to get with either. I could trust plenty of friends like this. If I wasn't trying to bang her, sure, who gives a shit? Let him have it. I have no skin in the game, nor should I care…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 06:21 PM
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If you're alpha enough there are chicks out there who will fuck you for cheaper. Hardly, chasing pussy is at best a huge waste of time and resources no matter how "alpha" you are or how cheap people think they can get it. Sure he could get an escort but it's illegal and pricy. There's no validation with an escort, which is why men aren't inclined to do it as often.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 06:13 PM
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You've never grossed yourself out by being unclean? Only when I start smelling my own balls when I sit down
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 06:11 PM
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I'm sorry certain opinions offend you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 06:11 PM
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There are health benefits to showers. Unlike damage caused to the skin by make up. But you're right, if society and culture didn't expect me to shower often, I wouldn't do it as often.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 05:33 PM
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I'm not claiming anything about men being oppressed. I'm just dispelling a myth that "men control relationships". Stop strawmanning
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 05:31 PM
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She doesn't value it that much. Plus orbiters are willing to help the girl with things and give her $$ directly or indirectly in many of the cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 05:30 PM
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Are you just terrified of hope Yea I'm "terrified of hope" it scares teh shit out of me are you yet another dark triad praying everyone's equally broken who's broken? yea I'm evil and I spend my nights gazing into the abyss and petting my cat
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 05:27 PM
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Men are systematically shamed/fined/imprisoned for doing that though. And men DO do it, regardless of all those things, so I'm not sure where your argument comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 05:25 PM
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But 99% of them don't
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 05:18 PM
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They can and RPers have. They dance around and feverishly chase pussy. They're dependent on it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 05:03 PM
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Third world girls yum
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 03:11 PM
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"I care about getting laid" "hur dur not with you" If you care about getting laid you need a woman to fuck. You can sit here and say ooh I don't care I don't give a fuck, but at the end of the day you're reliant on a woman to boost your ego with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 02:48 PM
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Lol retarded. Unless you're MGTOW, you're dependent on female validation as much as any BPer if not more.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 02:46 PM
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Who cares? Yea by your terms and semantics we agree
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 12:19 AM
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Don't think this was ever established but whatever sure i agrer
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 12:19 AM
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Rofl if that's what you describe as less than 6/10 then ok
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:59 PM
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Unlike most relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:59 PM
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That when trp says things it's only for men that are "6/10"+
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:53 PM
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Damn ur anecdote destroyed everything
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:52 PM
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I'm sure it will last
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:48 PM
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Lol that's not what I'm saying. Women date men because they get monetary value and status from it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:45 PM
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Do you mean "as fucking someone in person"?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:33 PM
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Yea I bet most people here are def over 35
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:25 PM
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No you don't unless you have very high SMV
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:24 PM
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Cool we live in different realities then
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:23 PM
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Not poor betas
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:22 PM
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So yea it only applies when you're older and women are losing their smv
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:22 PM
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shared intimacy with each other. Yea it's called fucking Of course there are more superficial relationships rooted in just sex or money, but not most. Why do you believe this? You really think women don't value wealth in potential relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:20 PM
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I'm saying if the man didn't make as much, she wouldn't love him
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:19 PM
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Ooh backpedaling a little? monogamous relationship it's mostly for what there is next to the sex yes Huh? Are you agreeing with me. there is Tinder If you could get laid as consistently with tinder youd do it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:18 PM
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In what sense? No one's alone anymore, we've got the internet. I think you mean "no one wants to be alone, sexually"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:12 PM
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LOL and what do you think the reason majority of relationships exist for?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:10 PM
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Oh "hypergamy" agrees with your silly semantics? Hmm
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:08 PM
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Yup
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:07 PM
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Idk, they always go hand in hand in saying. If they're not equivalent the "men are gatekeepers" is irrelevant to most men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:06 PM
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I agree. But for what reasons?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:05 PM
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Lol ofcourse youd think that, but the SMP encompasses ALL buyers and sellers
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:04 PM
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I'm sure youd totally be with her if the sex stopped
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:03 PM
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Why would they need to? This "50/50 male and female so both have the same strategies and desires" is retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:02 PM
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Yea cause sex has little to do with relationships right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:00 PM
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Yea so basically what you're saying, like I am is "men are gatekeepers of commitment" Only applies to high SMV men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:57 PM
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I'm sure you can rationalize your decision whichever way you want to. yes it takes some times and it's harder than for attractive men Which why monogamy is incredibly appealing
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:54 PM
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Love is very conditional
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:48 PM
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The population is 50/50, it doesn't make much sense for one side to want to other more. It doesn't? One man can reproduce with an infinite amount of women while womrn can reproduce with only one man at a time
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:47 PM
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Stupid. It doesn't mean men "I'm the gatekeeper of relationships if they control one gate each. Women can easily have sex with hundreds of men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:46 PM
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Cool we agree then
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:45 PM
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Who tf cares this is about all men. I could have 1 girl that wants to LTR, and she will have 100 guys that want to fuck her. The saying is not equivalent
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:44 PM
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Famous men are probably are somewhat mentally ill and egoistic. They marry for status and more $$ because good relationship drama brings them $$.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:43 PM
2

Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:42 PM
1

How young?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:42 PM
1

Care to explain why?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:39 PM
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Not the only reason. Just the main one
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:38 PM
1

You can say that, but I mean with the equivalent requirements women have youd be celibate
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:37 PM
1

You can say that, but I mean with the equivalent requirements women have youd be celibate
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:37 PM
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If they could get sex with those types of women just as often they wouldn't, and they shouldn't. Go look up celebrity divorce payouts
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:36 PM
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If they could get sex as consistently, most wouldn't until they have lower SMV and have to
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:35 PM
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Only to women with the highest SMV around
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:34 PM
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Really so it I have 1 woman that's significantly lower SMV and wants to date me. All the sudden "I am the gatekeeper"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:32 PM
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And why do you think that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:31 PM
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Duh you're a male. You don't have the privilege to have requirements
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:29 PM
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They wouldn't be monogamous if they didn't have to be
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:28 PM
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Just high SMV men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:27 PM
1

Would you say "men are gatekeepers of commitment" Only exists when they're older?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:26 PM
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Men want it more
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:25 PM
1

TIL trp only applies to alpha males
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:23 PM
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I'm glad you like my work However, if you want to apply RP generalizing AMALT, then yes men are the gatekeepers of commitment because "women" want commitment more than they do. If "amalt" means "top tier"/"alpha" Men, yea I'd agree with you. I don't think the average male doesn't want to commit. It's much harder for men to get casual sex so commitment is a good deal for those who don't get it enough
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:21 PM
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There's really not that many
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:18 PM
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It's BP narrative that looks don't matter as much as personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:15 PM
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Now imagine if a guy said "I don't date girls with under b breasts"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:01 PM
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Duh and note that most women have higher smv because men have a nutrally higher sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 09:59 PM
1

Duh and note that most women have higher smv because men have a nutrally higher sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 09:59 PM
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I'm sure
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 05:39 PM
1

IMO yes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 05:39 PM
1

the "major price" being what exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 05:37 PM
1

yea like that will ever change
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 05:47 AM
1

People can do what they want ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 05:12 AM
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or a fat hooker
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 05:01 AM
1

"it" the beast inside me
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 04:42 AM
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Seriously though. Most RP beliefs i took as skeptical at first but then could easily see them in everything women around me did.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 04:40 AM
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bang a hooker
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 04:39 AM
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bahaha whatever dude you clearly understand you're disadvantaged
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 04:39 AM
1

Solid argument
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 02:31 AM
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Why are you an incel if you have a girlfriend? They're less shallow IRL because they they literally have less options IRL, and they don't want to present themselves as a rude/ bitchy to people they might run into otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 09:06 PM
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It's probably a good amount, im not sure what percentage https://2001-2009.state.gov/r/pa/ei/rls/38790.htm this admittedly biased source says up to 89% want to escape prostitution
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 09:00 PM
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not that much money, low chance of getting caught
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 08:53 PM
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It's not legal in Las Vegas. But https://orgs.law.harvard.edu/lids/2014/06/12/does-legalized-prostitution-increase-human-trafficking/ shows it increases trafficking
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 08:52 PM
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LOL i meant buying them
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 08:51 PM
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takers for what?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 08:47 PM
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Thousands of dollars in what time frame? Lot's of attractive women can make more than a thousand a night
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 08:47 PM
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It's been shown legalization increases sex trafficking. More demand, more trafficking. https://orgs.law.harvard.edu/lids/2014/06/12/does-legalized-prostitution-increase-human-trafficking/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 08:46 PM
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It's been shown legalization increases sex trafficking.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 08:45 PM
2

seems like prostitution is the best strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 08:43 PM
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Idk how getting offended and being a "nerd" have anything to do with eachother. I guess your idea of masculinity is aggressive selfish "alpha" like behaviour. Anything else is an emasculate "nerd", kinda funny coming from a BPer. There's a natural mutual level of respect between a lot of men. Doesn't exist between women and men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 08:40 PM
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"community"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 08:39 PM
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Clearly
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 08:38 PM
2

Makes no sense
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 08:36 PM
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random redditors are not my friends. even if they were, bough, i'd feel more comfortable knowing they were in the care of a professional if things had gotten so extreme. i wouldn't perform surgery on a friend either, FWIW. it's funny you compare "mental health professionals" to surgeons. They're actually woefully unprepared because there's no real rational argument against suicide more than there is a rational argument for it. just that they're more equipped to address the situation. What situat…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 08:35 PM
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Again, so what? Doesn't mean there aren't any good ideas and opinions there
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 08:32 PM
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In what form?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 08:30 PM
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but having sex without any consequences (which is what abortion and birth control are all about) Haha is that what it is about? hm, what a short term narrow minded way of viewing it. I don't think a good consequence for a woman's behavior is OUR taxpayers money going to fund a child. Abort it Typical feminist thinking. good thing you sprinkled some identity politics in there
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 08:30 PM
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Especially in day to day interactions. Women are much more likely to get offended at anything you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 08:28 PM
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Good argument
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 08:27 PM
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Treat women the same as you treat men Why? They're clearly different
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 05:50 PM
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Community never decided anything the mods did. Fact that you can't make a good argument for it shows a lot. I'm not incel, btw
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 05:47 PM
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don't take RP or if they do. their beliefs have little to do with their self described label. Many of them DO take RP and just understand that they're low valued betas who can't improve their SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 05:46 PM
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True
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 05:45 PM
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well I'm saying that's dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 05:42 PM
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You're still describing how it could be. But I'm wondering how it would shift to be what it could be in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 05:41 PM
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if someone brings it up i have to direct them to mental health organizations and cease all communication immediately You would actually do that? Lol, I guess we think differently then. If a friend came up to me with a problem I wouldn't report him mentally ill to some state agency. You're pretty confident all these "mental health professionals" understand life and the universe better than everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 05:40 PM
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Pointing out your flawed statement. You're generalizing and I could say anything about any other group of people. Reported lol, sorry I disagree with you
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 05:38 PM
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not wanting to endlessly debate a topic Let's close down the sub then
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 05:36 PM
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And, just because you want to ignore something doesn't make it ok to censor
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 01:48 PM
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They lost that privilege because they were turning the sub into r/incels2.0 could say the same thing about RP or BP at certain times. suicide (which has been against the rules here for ages.) which shouldn't be banned either. Just because it hurts ur fee fees doesn't mean no one should be allowed to talk about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 01:45 PM
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So a disenfranchised unemployed person is not allowed to talk about economics? And what if this person had a degree in economics? xD
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 01:42 PM
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whiners flooding the board with their bullshit. Is this the narrative being used to justify censorship? It never flooded anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 01:35 PM
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sure and the unemployed have nothing to do with the economy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 01:34 PM
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not incel
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 01:33 PM
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BP aren't wanting to do anything. Do you even read any of the posts on /r/thebluepill? RP aren't wanting to do anything. Do you even read any of the posts on /r/theredpill?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 01:30 PM
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I don't get it though. What does the tragedy of the commons have to do with censoring incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 01:29 PM
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Too alpha to wear socks or shoes for that matter
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 01:25 PM
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No we don't. We've got one for feminism though. Let's ban any feminist thought here on this sub; they've been taking over like every single thread can't you see???
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 01:24 PM
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But moderation it's not moderation if it's just completely wiping a whole topic off the board for discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 01:22 PM
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No it's not. Incel just means they feel like they can't get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 01:20 PM
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Who cares? ignore it, move on
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 01:19 PM
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everyone who isn't incel
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 01:19 PM
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It's just when an ugly person does it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 01:18 PM
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Save it for the incels buddy censorship is bs
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 01:16 PM
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Sounds specific
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 01:15 PM
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haha and where would it start, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 04:55 AM
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Sure and anyone who doesn't rob a bank doesn't want more money.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 04:54 AM
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IN THE FIELD OF WHAT?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 04:44 AM
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Agree! If I don't beat my woman daily she starts to breastfeed me, it sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 04:40 AM
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Their opinions on sexual strategy hold no more weight than a toddler's opinions on metaphysics you can have all the sex in the world and be BP or RP. Literally means nothing but it doesn't matter if we disagree on that we agree on Shouldn't be censored, though. which is all I was arguing
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 04:38 AM
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What's your point spell it out to me? I get validated from ugly women trying to get me and gay men trying. I get validated because they're people that see me as attractive, really nothing to do with how attracted I am to them. Also, low value women ARE attracted to the men they get validation from and fuck them. So, idk what you're point is
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 04:36 AM
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LOL says the guy who just said women should not vote. I think I'm getting trolled, so I think I'll only comment to you again if you attempt to make a rational point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 04:34 AM
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keep putting words in my mouth. If I was a homosexual, yea I'd feel incredibly validated, especially if I was willing. Yea I'd do it again. I've been hit on by gay men. I reject their advances but it still gives me validation. Any attention is good in my eyes, even when it's from someone I'm not attracted to. Same thing goes for ugly women. If you think disgusting women feel NO attraction to average men, you're just wrong. Fat ugly women bang average dudes all the time. make an account on okcupi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 04:32 AM
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Doesn't mean what to much or who? I didn't say that they should be censored so we agree with eachother yay
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 04:27 AM
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Babble on
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 04:26 AM
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I'd feel kind of validated if anyone was attracted to me, whether or not I was attracted to them. And by the way, these disgusting ugly women end up banging average looking dudes. It's not the equivalent for a homosexual fucking me in the ass
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 04:25 AM
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LOL and who appoints them?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 04:22 AM
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oo good one. Go look up what bigot means
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 04:22 AM
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Well you don't. Because you're soft and stupid ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 04:20 AM
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Professionals in what field?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 04:20 AM
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Don't seem to have a good grasp on semantics do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 04:18 AM
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I don't get it are you just going to repeat that or try to make a point?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 04:17 AM
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LOL yea whatever buddy, a sapling is not a tree, a seed is not a sapling.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 04:16 AM
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Shit comparison. BP/RP isn't chicken/pork. But, actually, they can. They can describe the smell, the price, the feel. Stop sitting here and pretending there aren't virgin BPers or virgin RPers. There's probably plenty of each. "incel" is just a label to describe someone's trait. Doesn't mean they have nothing to contribute to conversation. And it certainly doesn't mean they should be censored.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 04:15 AM
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so what now the topic is just removed anytime it's mentioned? dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 04:09 AM
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Yea im not sure why censorship is being applied to a debate sub
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 04:07 AM
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hmm so do you not understand one develops into the other from sperm and egg? is there a difference to you between sperm and egg and balls and uteris?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 04:06 AM
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huh? No, not invisible because even disgusting women can fuck men off dating apps/websites.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 04:04 AM
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Yea because every single incel is how you're describing, right? There couldn't be any other ideas from incels because you decided so? bs
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 04:03 AM
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But because they are aiming for beautiful women, They aren't really tho
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:48 AM
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Who cares what women feel sorry for?\
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:47 AM
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"low value men" != incel
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:47 AM
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"incel" is not an ideology. Incels can be RP or BP. Lol ideologies don't always affect actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:45 AM
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Yea they are. And they're going to continue to be impoverished until they overdose on a drug or go to jail. Let them starve
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:44 AM
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In order to get laid. Men just like getting laid
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:41 AM
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No one can convince you. Because it's stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:40 AM
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Why not both? You're going to decide who has children and who gets to keep them?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:39 AM
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Why are they neither?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:34 AM
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very big difference. One cries, giggles, smiles, eats, shits, and sleeps The other just sits there doing nothing, almost as if it were dead and non-sentient.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:32 AM
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If you are bothered by this, you should already be trying to fix this problem. I am. Make the father pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:27 AM
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What does that have to do with Also most incels simultaneously complain about not being able to get attractive women, while rejecting women they deem unattractive. incels are NOT "rejecting" any offers, there are no offers. They talk about how they want attractive VIRGINS. It's not good enough that girls are attractive, but they also have to be virgins. I'm not sure why that's so crazy. Maybe they want a girl as inexperienced as they are. Also, no incel would claim they need a girl to be a model…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:26 AM
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sure they can. Good luck with that
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:23 AM
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You believe in a soul? When does it enter? If you don't believe in one, why'd you bring it up?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:22 AM
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So what does that mean, it means that all people, men and women alike, should never EVER hinge their happiness on the fact that they're with another person who they find attractive. hm he is my everything he is my world, hmmm I do feel sorry for everyone who can't feel the way I feel, or the way he feel, and I feel we're both lucky as hell. hmmmmmmmmmmmm
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:20 AM
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We don't feel sorry for them because we're too busy feeling disgust.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:15 AM
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Also most incels simultaneously complain about not being able to get attractive women, while rejecting women they deem unattractive. LOL most incels do not do this. Low SMV men are not out of options, they can 1) work on self improvement or 2) settle for a woman who is in their league. or just fuck beautiful women by paying for it directly
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:13 AM
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No. Even disgusting women can fuck men off dating apps/websites
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:12 AM
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What do you expect people to do, reread all past posts? Is multiple conversations on a certain topic not allowed? Everyone is better off in their own respective echo chamber. That's the whole point of this sub. There's actually discourse
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:11 AM
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how are they off topic?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:10 AM
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brave
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:09 AM
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Is it not allowed to talk about certain topics multiple times?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:08 AM
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Yea what, you want to pay more for it or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:07 AM
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Hey both is better than just the taxpayers
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:07 AM
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How is inceldom off topic in a sub about sexual relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:06 AM
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I'm not sure how you expect that to happen
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:05 AM
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Yea doesn't contradict what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:04 AM
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Sure they were
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:03 AM
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I don't think you understand fundamental human rights in western society and autonomy of our own bodies. Sure, I guess men could force some machiavellian sex agenda all the sudden and force certain women to have sex with certain men but I don't see that happening any time soon. Neither the feminine or masculine imperative are "good" sometimes one wins, sometimes the other I don't think they always have to contradict each other nor are either "imperatives" uniform or agreed upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:03 AM
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Considering you're commenting on a string of comments that have me defending abortion, I got the idea you may be trying to attack my argument. Sorry I don't recognize you :C
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 02:59 AM
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So forced abortion/ adoption? That'll go over well with everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 02:58 AM
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Who cares about semantics? We both agree with eachother and people will describe different things with different words. There's a difference between killing a baby and aborting (I guess you'd say killing) a fetus still in womb. If you want to label them the same go ahead, who cares? we're describing the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 02:57 AM
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They try their best if it is truly not enough we take them away. Yea and who pays in the end? btw, what is LPS?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 02:54 AM
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Yup. Your kid your responsibly, not the taxpayers
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 11:51 PM
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If youre so concerned about these poor men, you go pay their child support
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 11:50 PM
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And if she can't support them, but wants the kid what's your response? Forced abortion? Get real. If a man doesn't want to pay, he shouldn't have busted a nut in a chick.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 11:49 PM
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Yea because it's either him or the taxpayer so fuck him
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 11:47 PM
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Keep pretending. Both exist because they both want more sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 11:46 PM
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good discussion censorship Pick one
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 11:45 PM
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You don't want to save any babies? Then you're not against abortion
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 11:43 PM
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It's not equivalent in the slightest. I'm not against abortion or prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 11:43 PM
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Lol ok then let's make it fair for Both genders. When an old disgusting women needs her fix, you'll be called upon to do the deed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 11:42 PM
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Rofl prostitution and abortion are not equivalent. I'm not arguing that. Again, like I said, I don't give a shit about your self imposed injuries. You got pregnant, you knew the risks. It's not a right to get pregnant nor is sex for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 11:41 PM
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Cool so you shouldn't be against abortion
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 11:38 PM
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it's morally wrong In your opinion. You can argue forced monogamy is better but it will never be a reality as long as law and culture stays the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 11:36 PM
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No one cares what you do
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 11:33 PM
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Women feel used/like they can't get long term relationships and it frustrates them. It doesn't. They can lock down betas any day of the week
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 11:32 PM
1

Heroins not an innate desire in most non addicts
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 11:31 PM
1

You fine with taking care of all these babies you'd like to save?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 02:06 AM
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Are you saying I have some moral obligation to care for it? You may as well take it out of it's misery if it will starve to death otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 01:46 AM
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If a baby is threatening my life and I have no option but to defend myself I will neutralize the threat by any means.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 01:44 AM
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Lol your name disappoints. You certainly don't love death
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 01:38 AM
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Is there a difference? ba dum tssss
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 01:27 AM
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My life has meaning or whatever you're trying to describe TO ME. Another human life has much less meaning and plants and animals have even less. I mean seriously, what's the difference between a plant and a rock?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 01:26 AM
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More purple tbh. But I mean all these pills mean different things to different people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 01:20 AM
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You've never had a girl you felt was sexually attracted to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 01:17 AM
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Take that poem to 9th grade English class, I've got no use for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 01:16 AM
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Plus a bottle of lube won't give you a distasteful look the whole time
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 01:12 AM
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but that 2.5% varies based on preferences, and is distributed across the top 20%. So like they're not really attracted to only 2.5% of men, but 20%?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 01:11 AM
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I'm not sure what you're talking about. when would my "bullshit detector" be able to go off?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 01:00 AM
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I'm not advocating for these measures. lol no one said you were. little defensive...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 12:53 AM
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Sounds like a very emotion based argument. Sorry I rustled your jimmies but yea when life could mean the humans across the street or the grass your mowing, it doesn't exactly have any significance.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 12:48 AM
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No, the 2.5% varies, and is distributed across the 20% wtf does this mean. Is it 2.5% of men or 20?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 12:47 AM
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So in the past, when there was incentive were women not hypergamous?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 12:46 AM
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Because we overcome our primal desires in many ways. I'm not sure why hypergamy couldn't have been overcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 12:42 AM
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I'm mistaken for a woman Lol, this happen often? most of the offers they're getting aren't an upgrade over a good relationship. which is why most relationships last longer than a week. Only takes like 1 out of the stack to upgrade.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 12:41 AM
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You're really going to claim men never trade women in for a younger model? In the amount women dump BF when they meet a new, better guy? I'm not claiming it doesn't happen, I'm claiming it doesn't happen as often. Women have more options than men, and that's why it is worse for men to be in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 12:36 AM
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I wouldn't value a dependent baby as much as a independent adult. Semantics aside, get to the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 12:34 AM
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Neither has complex culture and society but we seemed to adapt them well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 12:33 AM
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Why not kill them if they'll die anyways? BTW it's called "abort" and not "kill" for a reason. And, they're not people, or even babies for that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 12:31 AM
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Plenty of women for Tesla and Newton to bird dog. However, they both died virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 12:30 AM
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that's a specific and high number. I've also always thought that maybe different women could be attracted to different men. Seems weird that they're all one hivemind with the same opinions and tastes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 12:28 AM
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"life" is not a meaningful term. Plants are living and we cut them down so they look better. Animals are living but we eat them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 12:26 AM
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Great comment, God! Now we know the truth!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 12:24 AM
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"mentally ill" is just a word we put on people who happen to do crazy, violent shit. It's kind of silly you can just chalk everything up to "oh he was crazy, he would have done it anyways" Of course they're mentally ill but why? They were just born that way? nah Both men and women are starved of sexual contact and it plays with their minds. Leads them to suicide and homicide. But, oh mental health can't be due to ANY exterior factors, it's just that they're born crazy! bs
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 12:23 AM
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Not that cool I could drum without ANY straps because I have fingers to hold the sticks. Oh wait idk how to drum though
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 12:18 AM
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If pussy gets in the way of their pursuits they weren't very ardent in their pursuits in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 12:16 AM
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I think it should be legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 12:09 AM
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I'm not a Nazi either so I have no obligation to defend their beliefs. I'm saying no to Think you can take it from there?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 11:10 PM
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Because the whole "best mate with the best genetically" doesn't really come in play when you involve money and power. Or in any sexually controlled society like one where you had to save yourself for marriage with a partner you don't necessarily choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 10:52 PM
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I'm not a feminist so no
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 10:50 PM
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Idk I'm not BP. Depends on what youd say "rape culture" is
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 10:35 PM
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Any because it's a made up philosophical premise that only you decided is true
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 10:24 PM
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Simple, maybe. Universal? Doesn't seem like it. True? If you say so, but you're not that convincing
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 09:57 PM
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Hm you decided that, why?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 09:47 PM
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And? Babies need to be cared for or they'll die on their own. You going to care for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 09:46 PM
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Life begins at conception. Who decided that? Idk what tools and corpse shit youre talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 09:45 PM
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Why are they equivalent?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 09:43 PM
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Sure was it "in play" when people were practically assigned off to monogamous marriages at young ages with mainly their parents choosing who they mate with
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 09:41 PM
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What if you had no arms? Government funded handys NOW
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 08:06 PM
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Weird
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 08:00 PM
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Only the most successful offspring survive Hasn't been the case in a while
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 07:58 PM
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I didn't know beards and muscles were recent inventions
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 07:57 PM
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Doesn't bother me. I'd rather not pay for the child with taxes anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 07:55 PM
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Men aren't known for branch swinging like women are. Problem is women just have higher SMV in general so they get the edge in relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 06:50 PM
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I just dialed their claims from ten to eleven. Aka a strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 06:48 PM
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It's not there for you unless people are willing to give it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 06:46 PM
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Well it's a good way to think for most men because they shouldn't expect a woman to act as if she doesn't have other options and won't screw them over when she can (and does)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 06:45 PM
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By those parameters life is meaningless
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 06:31 PM
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No shit? "Glib"s my fuckin middle name
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 06:28 PM
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Yea because pursuing women is the only thing in the way of achieving noble tasks
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 06:28 PM
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Strawman city
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 06:27 PM
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Agreed!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 06:26 PM
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Again I can't relate to you if you think abortion is equivalent to murder. No one will
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 06:25 PM
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Yea but you can't use that as an excuse for immoral behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 06:24 PM
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Yea I'm sure it's all private donations.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 06:23 PM
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You can admit to that, but claiming your brain limits you to do those things because you are female is selling yourself short and not taking full responsibilities for your actions. We also have different ideas of what hypergamy is I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 06:22 PM
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