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/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 06:15 AM
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Oh, I thought that we are supporting women in male dominated fields.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 06:05 AM
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Well maybe if men would now their place and shut the fuck up, and be submissive like they are meant to be, then they wouldn't have to be bashed. Also, don't go to therapy that's gay. What would they do there with you? Ask you questions about your gender insecurity and victim complex?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 05:57 AM
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Not everyone is a fake bitch like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 05:52 AM
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Get used to him because I'm not going to empathise with you guys. But hey, maybe if you would let right wingers and non voters to punch you around a little bit and let yourself to be used as their public toilet, they would be more inclined to vote dem next election. Nah, why are not signing up? Trumps next presidency is clearly on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 05:52 AM
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I'm not the one among us who is only not annoyed by women if they are scarred of them, or avoid them them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 05:43 AM
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Yeah, it's sort of male coded.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 05:38 AM
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You are not equal to me. Thank god.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 05:37 AM
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Because a lot of leftist are viscerally misogynistic, regardless of being able to put that aside and focus on helping everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 05:32 AM
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I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 05:26 AM
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No. I think if your political position is mainly based on how each side of the political spectrum communicates about masculinity or femininity, you might as well be a right winger, like I don't see how we would be on the same side of the aisle. It doesn't matter how equal we ever become under the law, and how far we manage to get in social equality between the sexes, how you are judged will always be a victimisation point for you, because you are directly looking for an excuse to be regressive a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 05:24 AM
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It's not, unless you're insane. It's literally my lived experience... The modren left is quite literally the most objectively pro-women position The modern left is not pro-women. no matter how hard they try, folks like you will call them misogynistic. I don't see anyone trying hard, but what do you want me to do? Lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 05:01 AM
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It's my lived experience. I'm a woman who frequently operates in leftist/progressive political spaces, and I'm met with misogyny in these spaces often. I don't know why are you so surprised by this. Leftist conventions being misogynistic sausage-fests is literally a meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 04:57 AM
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DEI whose main beneficences are women particularly white women White women being the main beneficences of DEI is not an intended affect of DEI, it's a logical outcome of it, but it's not intended. the left also focuses on things like womens safety Where? On what way? I literally never heard about this. good on paper till assholes start metoo'ing innocent people. What's your problem with innocent people being investigated by the police? You claim that they are innocent no? Then they have nothing …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 04:51 AM
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The left supports female interest from abortion, female specific affirmative action, gender based quotas in business, paid maternal leave, and subsidized childcare all of these thing are largely pushed because they specifically help women and not because of any broader anti-capitalist or pro socialist views. Most of these either not specific to women (abortion, paid maternal leave, subsidized childcare.) Or it's not policy, a private individual or a company creating a scholarship for women, is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 04:45 AM
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I'm not interested in showing empathy to people who are unable reciprocate it. Good luck with that liberal.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 04:28 AM
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When a woman thinks that you have no other choice but to date her because you don't have other choices, that's a red flag. But as I see it's one you share with her, so why bother?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 11:57 PM
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What do you mean by being 'desired'?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 11:39 PM
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Sorry, no, we progressives are ought to be mean, cold and downright disrespectful to you because it neutralizes your more insufferable tendencies, even if only briefly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 11:26 PM
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How does the left pander to us as women? The political left is viscerally misogynistic btw. Why would my political ideology be connected to my gender? Do men know how is femininity enforced for us? If they don't know that, how would I know how is masculinity enforced for them? Also what does the amount of people enforcing masculinity matter if you are only looking for an excuse to act out? I don't know about any type of masculinity the left is preaching about, maybe if you care about things like…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 11:18 PM
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So what’s stopping men from helping each other? They don't actually wanna be helped lol. They are just trying to get energy spent on them out of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 10:51 PM
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I completely agree with this. I kind of feel like what many libs and what nots, like OP are doing with young men right now is the equivalent having a boy mom-esque panic attack upon realizing that their spoiled, brat son, they raised with their husband is completely unequipped to handle being an adult and make responsible decisions for himself, therefore now they are trying to find someone to quickly cast in the wifey, life-arranger role for him. Absolutely not. They will fuck around, and they w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 10:48 PM
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I don’t think there’s some deep underlying reason. Maybe they just don’t put themselves out there, but I don’t believe it’s due to emotional instability or an ideological issue. For some, it might come down to looks , , but I don’t really buy that either, since men have a wide range of preferences when it comes to who they date or sleep with. Yeah, given she even wants a partner, it's usually because she can't find a man she likes whom she is also physically attracted to, or when ever she does f…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 09:19 PM
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all women who are here care about what men are doing in the manosphere, but to claim that you have NEVER seen women do this? Maybe we have misunderstanding here. What men do in the manosphere and their outcomes is part of the manosphere, but I a categorize discussions about this as discussion about the manosphere still, and not a boarder behavioral study on men. That's what the TRP is about women, there isn't really an equivalent of the TRP for women about men. I would say the thought that all m…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 08:37 PM
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They are talking about men, what men are doing in red pill, the result of red pill on men, lonely men, lonely mens' feelings; they are making commentary on what men are doing That's also what red pill/purple pill/ ect. men discuss here, so this is not really contradictory of what I'm saying. Just because the sub works on a heterosexual framework doesn't mean that RPW can't answer posts addressing TRP. I mean, you quite literally just did so. discussing the effects of red pill are actually discus…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 08:15 PM
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random videos on Tik Tok / IG by women, making stitched commentary on what men are doing? I seen women making commentary about the manosphere and the red pill, or using male tendences to make a feminists critique but I don't think that addresses all men, or in the critique's case it also analysis female behavior, which is usually is the point, and the male behavior is just analysed for comparison. Women discussing the red pill is 98% about what men are doing because the red pill is 98% men who a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 07:49 PM
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Everything you brought up, are things I only ever saw women discuss in relation to why they are not dating men/certain men, or in certain circumstances, and these discussions are mostly prompted by men asking. Why would women discuss e.g.: men approaching / not approaching. It's immediately obvious to any and every women that this is not something we are going to agree on, similar with pumping and dumping honestly. Discussing the red pill isn't necessary connected to discussing what men do eithe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 07:18 PM
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after he pinned me to the wall and strangled me in the eyes of everyone after I stood up to him Tell your crush that unfortunately your bully is into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:15 PM
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As far as I'm concerned you are free to break up with any woman after having sex with them, and there isn't really any feminist activism directed towards changing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:11 PM
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Guess what? I can sympathise with this because I'm going through something very similar, but my ability to sympathise isn't connected to my gender, or evolution it's connected to me having the insight to understand what you are struggling with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:47 PM
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“just go to therapy” or “you need to push thru it” (I’m bipolar I can’t just “push thru it I need medication) From therapy they can send you to a psychiatrist. A psychiatrist can give a diagnosis and prescribe medication.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:42 PM
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The blue pill is the mindless acceptance of mainstream progressive ideas usually in regard to feminism. And having sex with people you are attracted to goes against feminism? How? Being able to only sleep with people you are attracted is one of the most progressive idea there is. It's the basis of feminism. 'Looks is what gets you in the door.' is a blue pill saying. More so that everyone is an individual and they get choice without shame. Being able to only have sex with people you are attracte…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:19 PM
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never thought a woman would promote the black pill as a fact of life Sexual attraction being entirely connected to looks is blue pill. Black pill is when you think that looks alone will also get you a happy and long term committed relationship. I disagree with that. Men should give up improving personality to attract women. Men at mass never attempted to improve their personality lol, especially not to attract women. If you’re short or ugly, just give up. You are underestimating how heinous look…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:37 PM
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What do you think is driving the cost of housing up in the Philippines when their birth rate is falling?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:20 PM
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countries like the Philippines educated middle class people are complaining about the economy and rising housing cost make a USA salary, they would be able to afford a house in the Philippines. I'm going to ask you to attempt corelating this two things.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:16 PM
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Almost everyone in my country is poor and dumb, just like in the US so I'm not assuming anything. If she would be college educated and have the ability to live a good life in her country, why would she date a LBH for a greencard?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:09 PM
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Personality has nothing to do with sexual attraction, it has to do with relationship compatibility. OP asked about attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:06 PM
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"Once the poor, uneducated 3rd world woman with no money or job opportunity wants to break up, she can." Thank you so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:02 PM
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The manosphere has no institutional power The manosphere wouldn't even exist without institutional power backing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:20 PM
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The thread isn't about direct advice about how to date/improve though. It's about why the guy can't date. If you are fat, I can tell you that you can't date because you are fat. I can't really tell you how to lose weight beyond telling you to eat less. A gym bro or a doctor will be more likely able to help with that and give direct, actionable advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:11 PM
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Do I find him physically attractive? Yes. -> I would be attracted to him. No. -> I wouldn't be attracted to him. Simple. Isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:44 PM
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Yes, I agree with this. But then why did you write this before hand: Chances are even if she's talking to someone else and it goes nowhere, you are always the second guy she will come to and you get your chance. Patience is your friend. That way she's the one coming to you and you are not the one going to her ? Logically she will replace the guy with another guy who is texting her instead of increasing interest in you, who doesn't. She won't ever come to you if there isn't a specific reason for …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:36 PM
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Why wouldn't the woman behave the same way you do? If you are not texting her why wouldn't she be texting with an other man who does? You wouldn't stop texting to multiple women just because things go nowhere with one of them, right? Then why do you assume a woman would? She can more easily replace a plate when dropped than you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:23 PM
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“wow this is trash. I changed my mind" This is exactly why I feel like lying is not worse than paying for sex btw. Unlike the other female users here. In my opinion, usually when this happens with someone they don't realise it because, the liar just also ends up lying about the reason they are breaking up for. I mean, OP does have a point about being sorry for the girl who lost a year... but at the same time, if she would have been is real relationship and it would have ended for a natural reaso…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 03:42 AM
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girl that’s under the impression you’re looking for long term, and ghost her This is not how this works. When someone is looking for long term relationship with you, it's unlikely that they will have casual sex with you until the relationship is not established, so this is a several weeks/months long manipulation procedure, and it's unlikely that you will be able to just easily ghost them if they know you number and where you live, ect. OP isn't describing a situation where you are just seeing s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 03:30 AM
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Could you prove the black people are indeed more prone to violence than white people on the same socio economical level with anything other the police reports?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:15 PM
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Enlightenment philosophers were influenced by female writers and philosophers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 12:00 AM
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The vast majority of men living during the enlightenment couldn't read. Some countries gotten to half of their male population being able to read by the end of the enlightenment, but in those societies women gotten there too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 09:10 PM
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Except they didn’t have the discussions or media. How do you know that they didn't had the discussions if they didn't had the media? Also they did have some media, because there are female philosophers from most centuries. Enlightenment era female philosophers also wrote similar things as the males ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 08:48 PM
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Like, why do you think he was lying? Well, I don't know because we don't know whether OP would have had causal sex with them, and neither does the guy know. get him sex as quickly as possible I don't know if I would describe faking a whole ass courting session and setting up whole fake relationship as quick or easy, but whatever. To be fair, I know that pump and dumpers exist, but to me this guy doesn't sound like one based on what OP says. It's more like they felt like they needed to lie in ord…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 08:26 PM
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I understood the first paragraph as they went to dates at bunnings, and he only stopped going to bunnings when the relationship started.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 08:11 PM
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But if his goal was to just sleep with her then why didn't he broke up with her after the fact?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 08:09 PM
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Don't get me wrong, but something in this framework doesn't make sense. How the fuck does this worth it to them on an energy, time and coast analysis scale? Also why do you assume that she had a problem with sleeping, or dating them? I mean she literally did, consensually as well. I get that what you mean is that the guy just agreed to the relationship for sex, and didn't want it to last in the first place, but she was the one who ended it though, meaning he either didn't have a next lining up, …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 03:14 PM
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If you forcefully step in to help someone who already knows what you are up to and have rejected your 'help' multiples times before your forced yourself in, then they are not going to care and they are not going to feel indebted, or maybe they will get you back on similarly unpleasant way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 03:01 PM
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All of the immoral action came out when they were already dating though. So by your analogy he was already in the club and got himself kicked out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 02:54 PM
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What? She did get commitment from him, they dated. Why would she have wanted longevity when she literally broke up with him? If anyone it's was the guy who was there for commitment and longevity, but it didn't work out for him because he was subpar.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 02:53 PM
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I wouldn't like to do neither of the aforementioned, and neither the cuddling and playing video games together. I prefer mountain climbing in adverse weather and playing video games alone. It's even better if a bear is there. I mean for the mountain climbing... actually for the video games too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 02:46 PM
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?? How does that even work? Like he just straight up not tells her where they are going? How does she even get there?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 02:37 PM
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It doesn't matter what men tell, I watch what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:22 AM
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? I don't know how is this an answer to what I asked. Even if all drug dealers, murderers and rapists were to have a girlfriend (after conviction!), that still wouldn't be huge number a women, definitely not by statistical margin. And again what is the average criminal record of a murderers / drug dealers girlfriend like?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:20 AM
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He’s handsome and masculine and top tier. He is old, and a famous, with a beloved persona. This is just hero narrative. If you would know someone who looks like him irl., you would think stuff like, he is cheating on his wife because he has options, or that he probably treats woman terribly because he can, stb. And the best part is that if you would gain somekind of proof that he just isn't like that, then you would hate him for it more. Men love nothing more then other mens vices and wrongdoing…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:07 AM
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Sure, because not every man who gets to have casual sex has a the milage equivalent of a tour bus, but the the first guy we are talking about here, is a 'fuckboy', which means a dude who might be conventionally attractive but is whore or has somekind of other issue going on that makes him good for a short time, but not for a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 09:55 PM
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That wasn't my point. Let's say I agree with what you say about accountability in a scenario where abortion is legal, safe and available. But what do clitorises have to do with someone not getting an abortion? I understand you mean having sex out lust, but abortion would come typically after that if needed?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 08:38 PM
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I think this is missing some important reasons. - Dan has below average face, not necessary ugly enough to be naturally noticed by it, but it's unattractive. - Dan is little bit overweight. - Dan might be able to chat with close friends, co-workers, but he has a hard time getting to know new people, and socialize with them, which is, quite literally what dating is. - Dan is neurotic and hard to have simple everyday conversations with, unless if it's about his special interest (which I personally…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 08:30 PM
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How many women are dating drug dealers/murderers and rapists? And what are these women's criminal records like?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 08:13 PM
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What do clits have to do with getting an abortion or not though?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 08:02 PM
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A bad boyfriend whom she had an argument with about lifestyle choices, and a bad boyfriend who was abusive is not the same thing though. I mean these are just two examples, but my point is that a women breaking up with someone and complaining about them, and the relationship not working out, is not the same as their ex being a bad person, or an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 07:57 PM
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Men rarely see that other men are shitty Men do stand up for each others vices, but they also do hate attractive men behind their backs. Even if the attractive man happens to be a nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 07:49 PM
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the first guy with the option of something more serious, The first guy doesn't have the option for something serious. Often because he is a run through whore, or for some other reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 07:47 PM
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If you are in the US move to somewhere they hold GOP conventions.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:00 AM
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Some people are just more sensitive about even little things. I avidly believe that you don't have to like the other person for casual sex, but then I also immediately feel put off by the smallest sign of dishonesty, snarkiness or pushiness. It doesn't help that these are the traits pushed on men by their dating gurus.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:16 AM
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There is an active and a passive role I mean okay, but so then it's activity, not dominance. You're thinking of posers. Seriously?... No, I mean like... hormones, the sex drive, and the transmutation of the sex drive. Transmutation of the sex drive? 😂 ...You know what? Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 04:27 AM
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Dominance in a sexual context is just masculinity. Dominance have nothing to do with masculinity. Dominance in general has little to do with sex, unless your into BDSM. Dominance in a social context is dark triad / machiavellianism Non of these things have anything to do with dominance. Being dark triad just makes people annoying and repulsive, dark triad people are usually lonely and sexless. Machiavellianism highly corelates with both men and women who have casual sex because on one hand being…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 04:06 AM
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I'm not saying that they can't see them that way, especially if they want to rationalize why they don't want to date these men. It's just that this is not why they pursued them for casual sex. They pursued them because they found their looks sexually appealing. I don't really know what do you mean by : 'being dark/machiavellian is kinda just part of sexuality.' Do you mean like, that these people are just less likely to get attached? I mean, that's true, but it's also true for women who often ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:34 AM
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I'm not flaired, so I answer to your post here. This is the key sentence in your post: I immediately noticed the same pattern in women who pursue safe/provider men for dating but Machiavellian bad boys for sex. People don't have casual sex based on behavior, people have casual sex based on appearance. Both men and women. The women weren't pursuing those men because they are 'Machiavellian bad boys', but because they were sexually attracted to their appearance. Good looking safe men are also purs…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:26 AM
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"Thus, we conclude that while there are many ethnographic examples of variation across human societies in terms of marriage patterns, extramarital affairs, the stability of relationships, and the ways in which fathers invest, the pair-bond is a ubiquitous feature of human mating relationships. This may be expressed through polygyny and/or polyandry but is most commonly observed in the form of serial monogamy."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 05:37 PM
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But it's kind of is part of the point of the meme. To me the meme says that she doesn't want the ugly man to compliment her in the future because he is not hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 12:47 AM
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Consent can be revoked during the act. >I say hello to someone. And they are like: >Don't talk to me. Then they didn't give me consent to talk to them, and they revoked it during the act.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 12:43 AM
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Oh. It's because his hotter and younger. But I might add that she couldn't give consent before them saying that, because she didn't know they are going to say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 12:15 AM
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she was merely receptive to it as it happened. Consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 11:38 PM
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We aren't evolutionary wired to keep one partner for our entire lifetime either. So as long as some groups are going to enforce that, I'm also going to be okay with polyamory.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 11:03 PM
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It is consent. One man got the consent to continue saying that and other man didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 11:00 PM
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fuck fuck fuck If you fuck fuck fuck, you will have children. You fuck fuck fuck with the people you pair bond. Pair bond with one and sire many children Humans don't pair bond with one partner a lifetime. They go on to have children with other partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 08:53 PM
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If we weren't pair bonding only the females would get attached. What? How does this even make any sense. Humans aren't attached to their children due to pair bonding.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 08:48 PM
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So… ya don’t know you have consent till after the act is what your claiming correct? You don't know that you have consent even while in the act, because consent can be revoked. If someone reacts badly to you saying something to them, then don't say that to them again. back to be attractive don’t be unattractive I agree with this. Yeah. And I'm explaining that consent can me given or not based on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 08:45 PM
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Because you wrote: "Pair bond with one and sire many children raising them together." Human males and females absolutely start to have children with other partners before their children grow up. The pair bond doesn't last for that long. They care for their children because they are attached to the children, because it's in their interests that their descendants survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 08:41 PM
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They get attached to their children because if they didn't they would die. If there was no pair bonding. There would be no attachment. Pick one. As I said before there is pair bonding between humans, but it's not for lifetime, and humans absolutely do change up their partners and have children with new ones. Both men and women. Children typically are cared for not just by their biological parents, but by the other humans in their community as well. Which makes sense cause just think about how de…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 08:35 PM
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Her reaction implies that his speech is welcomed, as she didn't reject it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 08:26 PM
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Okay. Why would human females ever get attached to their children and partner? Like why do you feel like the basis of male and female attachment to their children or partners would be different?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 08:22 PM
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We are pair bonding animals. We are serial monogamists, so we do pair bond for a time, but not for life. We are not birds. Human males would never get attached to their children or their partners if we were not. Human attachment (male or female) to their children doesn't have to do anything with attachment to partner. Most mothers and fathers want to keep seeing their children after divorcing their partners. So yeah, humans pair bond for a while, but again not for lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 08:19 PM
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https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/ecology-and-evolution/articles/10.3389/fevo.2019.00230/full
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 08:11 PM
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Most women don't have casual sex outside of LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 07:43 PM
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Consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 07:36 PM
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A man doesn't want to raise someone else's children If you are not in a monogamous relationship with anyone then how would you and up rasing someone else's children more than any other men and women in you community already does? There is no this female/male is yours in nature, that's the hack. There is no 'bastards'. Bastard is literally a legal term that wouldn't exist without marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 07:25 PM
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Interesting use of language, but you are right technically.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 07:19 PM
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If you are saying that, this is the strategy of modern men then I believe you and you might be right, but this is evidently not natural. Without contraception you have children that are to be fed and raised, and humans don't pair bond. We are serial monogamists.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 07:18 PM
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Typically women have more than one pregnancies though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 05:57 PM
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It's actually pretty natural for humans to have children with more than one partner. It just became less common due to the heavy promotion of monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 05:37 PM
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I see, it's cool. What's really interesting to me in this is that as someone who practises casual sex, I think what we are doing is actually really similar, it's just that in causal sex there isn't really a relationship or romance involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 05:35 PM
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Interesting. I'm always fascinated by polyamorous people May ask a question if it's not very personal? Do you know about the other people your partners are having sex/in relationship with? Is it common/uncommon for poly people to care about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 05:14 PM
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And a winner will be the rich and powerful. (men and women) Might makes right, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 04:59 PM
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then just take a look at history I see you not having the right to vote. lol. Unless of course if you happen to be the lord of big piece of land and you have a reasonably sized army to protect it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 04:21 PM
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Being more entertaining can never make up for lack of mutual sexual attraction. Nothing can make up for lack of mutual sexual attraction. Women select men with attractive personalities. Only after they made sure that he has all the needed attractive physical qualities. The main incentives in dating for women is youth and looks. Especially for casual sex, but it's also the number one factor for relationships as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 09:12 PM
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Women are more likely to be harmed by 'acquaintances', like friends, friends of family and professionals they trust, then by boyfriends and husbands. Also in the case of boyfriends and husbands the harm is often proven to be mutual.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 09:03 PM
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Same goes for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:47 PM
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I completely disagree with everything else expect the last paragraph. There is a point where being convicted for violence outweighs not acting. Where are we from that point is debatable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 03:46 PM
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Smart cis-women know that she is completely right and that we need to take action to protect ourselves form people like you girly-pop. She will never be alone as her cause is directly connected to my freedom. 'First They Came'. I think you should be the one being in fear, cause your kind is the one that is not used to your existence being brutally politicized, and more and more people are seeing that's the only solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 03:38 PM
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Can I unironically ask something? Then why don't people like you have these conversations with the incels? Why am I the one being told to be better? To be the bigger person? To be the reasonable one? Because I'm a woman? Why aren't incels and young men in general being asked to be better?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:39 PM
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No I just actually believe this about men. It's the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 07:47 PM
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Baggage and experience are negative traits in men, and the more they have the less they deserve an LTR with a woman. Men who have or chase casual sex are damaged and broken, even if they have 5 psychology degrees they are just subhuman sluts to be used and thrown away, they don't deserve children, they wouldn't take care of anyway. Thankfully we don't have to worry about boundaries with men because their inferior minds make them incapable of maintaining any. That's way the men who speak like you…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 06:38 PM
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I picked this line up from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 04:32 PM
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Feminists are supportive of SAHMs who aren't financially dependent on their husbands, and feminists also fight for SAHMs getting paid or lawfully compensated for their work as a SHAMs. I don't know what is this if not supportive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 01:32 PM
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Men are the products and women are putting their value on them, regardless of how much you whine and cry.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 01:13 PM
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looked at a man and knew I wanted to have sex with him. This is not what I wrote. I wrote that when women look at a man they see whether they find him physically attractive or not, and then separately they also know whether they want to have sex or not in general. This has nothing to do with looking at a man and knowing that you wanna have sex with him. This just means that 'seduction', 'game', 'charisma' and other stupid nonsense won't convince a woman who isn't physically attracted to you to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 01:05 PM
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The product doesn't decides it's value. The market does.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:50 PM
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Not emotional at all. You are extremely emotional and irrational right now, but it's okay, you are a male after all. Every single data set say the opposite of what you wrote. Every single peer-reviewed study and methodologically honest dataset proves me correct. All you have in your side is unscientific blogposts. I am simply opting out. Good. Don't forget to stock up in cat food. As most men will do in the future. Even better, they can't opt out fast enough. You can't beat a chiken at chess gam…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:47 PM
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Exhibit a Thank you for showcasing emotional and irrational behavior. How shameful.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:36 PM
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Well, how's the sex life of these people?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:35 PM
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loved unconditionally just like women already are. So men are submissive and non deferential to their women? No? Then you just lied? they provide something: beauty I don't think that women are responsible for men being sexually attracted to women they find ugly. feminism preached men to be emotional Why would they do that? You all already are extremely emotional. That's why you unable to think rationally. shame them Feminists also shame women for being emotional and irrational. Especially since …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:33 PM
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So we are suppose to believe her that she just suddenly started to find him physically attractive? Yeah, nah. My most good willed interpretation of someone saying this would be is that they just didn't notice their partner simply for just being physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:19 PM
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Her not being interested doesn't mean she didn't find him physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 11:59 AM
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I disagree. By the time women vet someone for behavior, they already decided that they find the man in question sexually attractive looks-wise and that they do want to have sex with him, being interested in his person after these decisions doesn't disprove this. Some women think sex is better if they know the person, some women try vetting for behaviors they don't find safe, many women doesn't care about behavior at all. No amount of sociability, seduction or other bs will help if a woman doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 11:57 AM
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"I didn’t really mean to have sex with him, it just happened.” What if she is just ashamed of saying that she wanted to have sex with someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 11:41 AM
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We'll never be bigger bitches than they are and them whining under Lilith posts is all the proof we need.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 11:34 AM
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I don't see how chasing would matter from the perspective of a hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 11:32 AM
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Nothing's wrong with her tone. Most posting men in this sub is way more annoying and bitchy. Lilth's posts are way better written than their's.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 11:23 AM
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No most of the time they are lefties. Who? What does this have to with anything I wrote? Leftists want to date people they find attractive. Hot, young and skinny people. A few research have shown that the ideal relationship is a center right man with a center left woman. What does this have to do with anything I wrote? Relationship with a center right man, or a center left woman is not ideal for me, 'cause fuck them, also I don't care about relationship between center right man, and center left …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 11:19 AM
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Because it's not a ragebait thread, it's just true and you don't like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 01:35 AM
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Yes. But so then this kind of disproves the original commenters claim that I argued with: 'when you (a partner/wife) give your man sex he will equate it with receiving love?' Evidently, love is a more multifaceted thing for both genders, sex just happens to be part of it's multifacetedness, and by itself sex doesn't really mean love to most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 08:04 PM
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So, if what makes me feel loved is for a girl to be very interested in intimacy with me, doesn't that follow your logic? No, on some way I don't believe that if you would receive nothing else but sex from your partner then you would feel loved, but ultimately I can't disprove you either, these are your feelings. edit: you can replace the word sex with gifts or anything really.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:54 PM
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People who don't necessary hate, but just mildly disklike each other also fuck so no I don't think it's the passion part. It works in the other direction too, people have FBW's. Technically you can have sex with anyone you find sexually desirable and you trust them enough to give them access to your body. It's not about, love, hate or passion really.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:48 PM
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I think the only relevant thing you said here is that people can understand the sentiment behind an action of love, even if that action doesn't make them feel loved. I can agree with that. But, so since you asked, love is an intense feeling of deep affection, and I think if this affection is valid enough people will find a way to make their love and appreciation immediately understandable for their loved one, regardless of their original love language. Additionally I think in a well working rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:42 PM
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So, just to check, when you say "fucking" you do mean actual sexual intercourse, right? Yes. Can you define hate from your pov pls. Intense or passionate dislike towards someone/something.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:32 PM
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And yet gift giving is a valid love language. I don't see it as valid. Love languages have something inherently problematic in them in my opinion. They are usually used as an excuse to not show up for your alleged someone in other areas of life. I won't speak for all men, but seeing a woman express carnal desire for me seriously makes me more romantically attracted to her. Okay, so let's say you feel loved by that women then. What if she hates you though? Then was it a valid love languages or ul…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:19 PM
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Misogynist hate fuck women they find attractive, misandrists hate fuck men they find attractive Both abused/abuser men and women hate fuck, their abuser/abusee all the time. People hate fuck their bullies, rivals, competitors they don't have a good relationship with all the time. These are just examples, I'm nothing saying that it's a universal human experience, It's just pretty common. It's how men work, it's in their nature. Just as women are different in their nature. I do believe that more m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:13 PM
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Don't they always say: No, they don't. women prefer funny men'? Some women might prefer funny men, they will still only be attracted to good-looking, young, slim men, who happen to be funny. Yeah, I've never had a woman express genuine attraction to me. Read what I wrote before. Meanwhile, many of the most misogynistic men I've ever known never had trouble dating Unsurprising since there is a lot of misogynistic women, it makes sense for them to be with someone they could see eye to eye on thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 06:54 PM
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Have you ever heard of the concept of love? And that when you (a partner/wife) give your man sex he will equate it with receiving love? You do not have sex with him, he does not feel loved. I wouldn't date someone who thinks about love this way, because this is not how love (or sex) works. People who hate each other have sex. For free. I could agree that having sex with someone you love feels better then having sex with anyone else, but this doesn't make sex and love, and feeling loved inherentl…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 06:23 PM
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I said what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 05:56 PM
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No one should risk their safety just so someone else can feel desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 11:30 PM
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You can physically desire someone and still feel the need to get to know them before being able to feel comfortable enough to have sex with them. I would even argue that liking them as person is not as important as being able to thrust them somewhat. Understanding this starts with being able to view the people you are only physically attracted to as capable of doing harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 11:19 PM
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Yes. I get that. I only have a semi-public facebook, without a profile pic for work, and the amount of male strangers sending friend requests to me goes up a few days before valentines day, and interestingly also around christmas. What I meant by second hand embarrassment is the idea, that these people go out of their way to try forming connections with people whom they otherwise absolutely wouldn't be interested in, just because public holiday makes them feel peer-pressure. On a way this both f…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 11:02 PM
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It's possible that I'm simply just not a normie enough, but even the idea that someone only wants to go on a date because it's valentines day makes me feel second hand embarrassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 10:41 PM
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Because he believes that getting to know a woman and speaking to her extensively before having sex with her is inherently demeaning for a man. He believes that only guys that can have sex with any woman by just asking her for it are cool, and he probably also believes that almost every women has had sex with man whom she barely knew, in order to keep this mathematically possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 10:08 PM
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A lot of the things you wrote are entirely true, and you are 100% right in pointing them out, actually if you think about a lot of what the manosphere claims about men, you'll see that they are heavily rooted in internalized misandry. However, what you have to understand is that, no matter how unfriendly, uncaring, and antagonistic are men to each other, in the end of the day they will fall in line to protect each other and their shared interest in the victimisation and oppression of women. This…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 07:25 PM
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Like how women before me did. Hit him on the head and drag him inside my cave.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 03:07 PM
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Drop out from work and take care of your babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:10 PM
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China and north korea has similarly declining birth rate. Take a guess on how they will treat south korean women that cant evacuate It's unlikely south korea would be overrun by chinese and north koreas specifically, but why aren't you worried about the men who can't evacuate? Are you a misandrist?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:05 PM
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There isn't a very wide timeframe between the two, it was passed in may, but it became law in 2021 September. The heartbeat bill is also most likely to stop mothers who wanted the baby, but it's non viable because it's detectable at 6 week usually, by that time a good chunk of women who didn't wanted the child would have been able to access abortions. A majority of them via the pills.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 02:17 PM
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The increase in infant deaths combined with the yet declining birth rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 02:11 PM
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Drop the afghanistan birthrate source. do you foresee the people in western liberal democracies becoming biologically immortal soon? No. Culture will stay evolving, like it always did. and how many cultures that did not have children survived? There isn't such a thing as a culture stopping to have children. At max the closest thing is a small tribe dying out in natural disaster. I don't really think that's relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:56 PM
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if you dont have kids your culture dies out, the people who have kids dont die out. You might have to hold into something before you hear this from me, but every culture that every disappeared and every empire that has fallen, did have enough children. Culture is also ever evolving. I also like to request a list of cultures today that aren't experiencing a steep-decline in birth rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:40 PM
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RVW was over turned in 2022, like late november. EDIT: October. Case in point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:32 PM
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Amazingly, because I'm not a narcissist who lashes out when having to share opportunities with others. Even if they don't look like me, or wouldn't have had the same graces in times before.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:23 PM
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Any.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:13 PM
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What was conservatism when you were growing up and what is conservatism today?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:12 PM
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You are living in the best times humanity ever had.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:11 PM
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Yes because we all know the military might of your culture is directly corelated with your population numbers. Just look at how Russia took over and won the war against all of Ukraine in three days.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:55 PM
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Men absolutely do not want to hear about them having to pay someone who takes care of their children because they don't/"can't". Trad-con men brag about the value of stay at homes moms, but only until you bring up that valuable work shall be compensated with liveable wage, and legal right to enforced compensation. They only think that fatherhood is sweet deal as long as the houseslave can be thrown out of the house without the law asking anything. Don't argue with me, argue with the ex-tradwifes…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:50 PM
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There’s actually been an increase in the number of live births per year in states that introduced heartbeat bills Party due to giving birth to fetuses with short life expectancy, that otherwise would have been aborted. They most likely won't survive till adulthood, therefore they won't help with the actual replacement rate. US's combined fertility rate has also fallen.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:37 PM
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Great. That's exactly what progressive women like me wanted. Yet another easy win.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:27 AM
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So the timid office worker men should date the violent criminal women instead of their counterparts?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:11 AM
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Because they will hold out for someone who makes significantly more than they themselves do, telling themselves they have to in case something happens rendering them unable to work. First and foremost, me saying: "You will need someone who makes at least 80k or more" already includes men who make significantly more than her, but it's unlikely that she will be able to settle with someone who makes significantly more than her, because men who make significantly more than her will settle with a wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:38 PM
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Friendship is board definition, but I'm more interested in how do you even figure out that you want to date/confess to woman you don't know? So what if instead of 'better', we would say it's prerequisite and instead of 'friendship' we would just say a level of interpersonal knowlegde.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:52 PM
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No one was talking about married men other than you. You literally made a claim, I quote : " mostly women do seek a man who can be a provider economically" I naturally assumed that this is about marriage. Like, how do fuck do you get economically entangled with someone without getting married to them? And if it does mean marriage then how do you explain most married men wouldn't be able to become a single-income provider? Well, traditional people are more likely to be married than non traditiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:46 PM
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against casual sex Well, some definitions of casual sex also include sex in LTRs and during engagement, so I guess ...not all forms of casual sex? What is specifically referred to as casual sex is ONS and, yes FBWs, and it's a fact that most young women, especially gen z women, since they are having less sex then millennials and gen x, don't do ONS and FBWs. But actually the vast majority of women in any generation only have sex in LTRs (or before that in marriage.)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:39 PM
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Because those are the women within their vicinity? A lot of those women end up reducing their hours significantly or leaving work altogether once kids enter the picture. I can give you this one, where I live women overwhelmingly want to and have to stay in work, so I can't really comment on places with different cultures, I can at best speculate about what goes on in these women's heads. It doesn't make strategic sense to me on first look. Meanwhile women won’t even breathe in the same room as a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:27 PM
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What percentage of women do you think clubs regularly?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:12 PM
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Before I cite anything, do you mean one income household when you say 'provider'? It would be kind of nice, if we would talk about the same thing, because it's kind of wild to believe that you unironically think that most married men as of right now could be the soil-earner of their household without the family falling into the situation I brought up in my first comment. And this is without me even questioning why do you believe that most women would want to become a dependant...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:09 PM
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I didn't say it's not a valid desire, I do think it is a valid desire, it's just not something most men will obtain, because the supply isn't meeting the demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:05 PM
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mostly women do seek a man who can be a provider economically Most men who marry can't be providers economically.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:01 PM
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So what other reason would someone have to specifically look for a similar, or higher income partner than themselves? Simply not betting lower? Okay. So than higher income men are most likely to do this since they overwhelmingly marry within their own income bracket.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:00 PM
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casual relationships like most women Most women have never, and will never look for casual relationships. Most women are not child-free and they usually arrive in the dating scene while already looking for someone to date long-term and to settle down with, some might do have casual sex while looking, but even this group is minority compared to women who only have sex in established LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:55 PM
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The outdated belief that you need a certain level of income combined with your partner to have a family and live comfortably, not on the poverty line? Damn. I always refer to this as 'reality'.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:49 PM
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"mafia CEOs" and extreme height differences in romantasy didn't exist 15 years ago. You are just not well read enough, which explains the rest of your comment very well btw. Let's start with that it's the other way around, the MMCs or early/proto romantic literature with a female readers in mind, were almost without a fault tall, rich, high-status and traditionally 'masculine', and then the post-sexual revolution came with the 'bodice-rippers', which are basically what you refer to as 'romantasy…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:08 PM
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As a feminist I actually don't really have a serious problem with pumping and dumping. I mean, sure, there always going to be something negative about lying to someone, especially if it is to waste their time... but, if you think about it, faking a relationship is a subcategory of this where the liar hurts himself about as much as they hurt the one they are lying to. Especially since It's him who has to spend more energy/money/planning/mental load, on trying to build the make belief relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:12 PM
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Yes. So why did you commented women at first?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:11 PM
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Yes, the common demographic group that gay men and women date is women, as we all know. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:09 AM
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my responsibility as a man to not let her So you demand a from of love to be appreciated, that you yourself wouldn't accept?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:29 AM
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Sounds a lot more like the manufacture of a victim identity, than demonstration love to me. Do men hold a woman who would do anything for them in high regards?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:17 AM
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You do understand that what people you have excess to has a lot to do with geography, class and culture, right? I have a hard time believing that you don't recognize how privileged you sound. Also, cutting misogynists out of your life is great and the correct thing to do 100%, but those people don't stop existing and affecting things in the world just because they are not in your life anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:49 AM
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The internalized misogyny is crazy in this one. Especially if your reread the part about the paragraph before the last one with emotional labor theory in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:41 AM
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I wouldn't be with a man like that. I don't need men to do anything for me in order to like them, if I like them, but for men sex is prerequisite to feel the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:29 AM
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure that every women who knows you would love you under a train. lol Your language speaks for itself, because put the 'not just' before sex all the time, which means that you don't the same interest in women you only have a chance with platonically or romantically, and the ones you could be involved with sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:24 AM
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Maybe one day you would meet a man who would jump in front of a train for you if you weren't a man-hating feminist. Why would any women want a man to jump in front of a train for her, you idiot? Could you please think about that scenario for a second, the other moron wrote it as an intentional joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:14 AM
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I mean it would be hard to reject people while also keeping up with reddit threads, that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:10 AM
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And what are these poor suckers pouring their hearts out for? For what exactly? Asexual women? And where are the women who are experiencing all these heart felt confessions, anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:59 AM
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Those who 'effectively' use dating apps are at max a tiny minority of the users, and this is by design. The people who spend are the men who log in regularly to swipe, get their hopes and self-esteem shattered and then try purchasing visibility meanwhile the audience they are interested in is not present to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 12:06 AM
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How would a limited number of men who get attention, and a limited number of women who recreationally uses dating apps be enough to generate profit for the match group? Why would either of these groups spend their money on this? The bulk of the apps commercial value is suckers with their wide nets spending money on more bait to use in a pond with barely any fish.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 11:55 PM
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Case in point there is always on over-whelming male majority of active users on the apps, while female active users are always the minority. There is also less inactive female accounts ever made then male. This is not about your feelings about who is dating and who is single, this is about numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 11:09 PM
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It's fun that men are still the over-whelming majority of the users despite all of this. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:53 PM
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gay culture Actually, It's not just gay culture because I coincidentally know about another demographic group who tends to complain about not being able to find long term relationships and commitment on the apps. I wonder what's the corelations.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:43 PM
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Tinder works perfectly for gay men, as does Grindr Btw no it doesn't. Gay men often discuss that they have a hard time finding long-term partners and any kind of commitment in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:20 PM
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you dont know what a rhetorical question is, google it pls my english is to bad for this My question exposes why the rhetoric was bad. you seem also believe that attractiveness is binary, its not I actually do think that you can rank people by how attractive you find them, but most people, well, or at least most women at least have a divider on the scale that separates people they would fuck and people they wouldn't. And when the choice comes down to your 7 and your 8, people can, and will consi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:03 PM
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would know that the chances that he dosent pump and dump here a extrem low Why would she know this without knowing the man in question? maybe would choose less attractive men to date? I don't think that anyone ever would want to date someone they don't find attractive... Unless they don't plan to have a sex life for some reason. Also, by 'less attractive', what do you mean? This could mean that she still finds the guy attractive enough and then why wouldn't she randomly assume that he would pump…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:49 PM
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Blake lively DID NOT win FATCS don't care about you FEELINGS. Police DID NOT find anything that proved Johnny depp was an abuser. It's literally the most famous mutual abuse case in history, but obviously a men with your tendencies would only defend the male-abuser. Is your name in the Epstein files or something? Lie babe lie, I'm not a male and I haven't practised. You know one thing that would help you have more friends who wouldn't 'socially exclude' you? Being more silent.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:16 PM
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I already won the debate and I'm not flirting with a fat manosphere dick, who is nasty and disgusting. But do get that you wish I would.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:07 PM
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No feminist will feel exhausted debating you. You are an entertaining little bitch who thinks the adults will let him have his way is he is delusional enough. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:00 PM
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Dear TAG PR employee, The reason why Blake Lively won her completely reasonable and rightful lawsuit is because Justin Baldoni hired a PR agency to defame her with unprovable or highly fabricated materials, and used paid shills as well as bot-farms to change public opinion, which is illegal. The police found enough to prove what we had already known, which that Johnny Depp is a criminal, domestic abuser, so yes I was completely right to believe Amber Heard, and to all the other women who were ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:57 PM
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Why do you think that someone who has anxiety would disengage from the debate? Wouldn't they be more motivated to fight back? And why would a feminist who knows about nasty men like you feel hopelessness upon encountering with your behavior? You literally just confirmed her believes. I think what you are forgetting is that feminists are not like you. They actually believe the positions they hold, unlike you who just uses political positions as emotional outlets and to hide insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:40 PM
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Believe women So if a woman makes a report you don't want the police to investigate? It's obvious that you are rapist-defender. Patriarchy Not a system that maintains itself is good. Affirmative action I also think we should stop affirmative action for unskilled and lazy white men. They've caused enough damage to themselves and everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:33 PM
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Why would someone change their position or disengage just because you insult them? You have a reputation as well and you can be destroyed just as good, especially since you are already unlikable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:21 PM
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So she believes that there are certain things men need to be good at compared to women, and yet she simultaneously describes herself as a left leaning liberal? Yeah... I wouldn't date this woman either.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:22 PM
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Can some explain to me whats the difference between courting and dating? Is courting specifically for people who want to get married to their partner in the future or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:08 PM
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So would this woman hate if her boyfriend would help a man change his car tire?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 04:59 PM
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I guess this makes sense, thank you for explaining it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 11:37 AM
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and in neither case are their husbands really carrying their share of the load. This is so sad to hear. Would them taking their parental leaves at the same time help with this? I know Sweden is one of the most progressive countries when it comes to paternal leave, but it's still not exactly the same as maternal leave... I guess that just wouldn't be economically viable, for both parents to be able to not work at the same time. It's also sad because I think fathers having to work at that time, ro…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:14 PM
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So most women only have sex in relationships? Well, okay, I can accept that premise and still think that getting that close with someone, putting so much effort into someone, practising sexual exclusivity for someone, and being committed to someone, doesn't worth it if I can't have high standards for a that person. So I think, men, (or at least the thinking ones among them) do have standards, arguably even high standards for this someone. If they don't then maybe it's not a good idea to date the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 11:22 AM
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So it is an FBW, but you are both expected to practise sexual exclusivity. That's great. I had any fbw like that for a while, I didn't call it a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 11:08 AM
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I think neurotypical people can be lied to and often do fall for lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 05:29 AM
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normal women know that since women also give mixed signals when they enjoy dating but aren’t interested in pursuing it further I think normal is an interesting word to use in this context, but okay, whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:43 AM
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If you are looking for relationship then the only men that would count would be the ones who say that they are interested, and that among them most are not. There might be men who say they aren't interested, but they don't factor in anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:29 AM
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The guy I responded to argued that one needs relationships to have sex, I argued that one doesn't need relationships to have sex and that it wouldn't worth the commitment, or I at least don't see how it would.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:30 AM
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I mean, it makes sense in a pill subreddit, because the red/purplepill is heavily against men having standards for women beyond looks and body counts. This is both because men having standards for relationships proves that men have accountability in their relationships going badly, and both because of internalised misandry. So you are not wrong for pointing that out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:27 AM
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So a relationship with someone you dislike, and see no point to be with other than sex worth it because it's not marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:16 AM
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The argument is that men will fuck anything and then demand to be able to date Stacys. The chicken checkmates purple/redpillers in chess.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 02:24 AM
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I think the 'relationships' the men you are talking about have, be it 'most' men if you will, don't constitute as relationships in the full sense of the word. First and foremost why would any woman settle with someone with preferences this low? Second of all, why would a relationship built on standards like this function or work?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 02:19 AM
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Relationships are the way to get sex Why would you need a relationship to get sex? Even if that's to only path way for you to get sex how would that worth the social cost of commitment?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 02:00 AM
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All men are in it primarily for the sex All men or the average men? The men who are interested in more than sex are the ones with the standards. Regardless of what that interest might be, some might want a specific type of woman to be their children's mother, some might want to settle with woman they would like because they are tired of constantly having to pursue for sex, some might even have an economical interest related to family life. But the idea that these men wouldn't have standard, or e…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 01:36 AM
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If you're a woman, there's a good chance you already know a man who would gladly be in a relationship with you. How would any women know that when every pursuant men say that they would gladly be in a relationship with them? (for sex) They all act the same way, they all say the same things and they are all there for the same reason. It might as well be none, so basically women are at the same place as men regardless of the number of the pursuants they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 01:14 AM
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So back to my point of men in media that caters to them are the receivers of desire and are the targets of the female's actions themselves. So yet again. Why are you taking note of this only when it comes to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:26 PM
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Hold on to your desk. Men in erotic media catering to women are featured as objects as well. Hope this helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:17 PM
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So your argument is that women not consuming images about the male body the same way men consume images about the female body, is the reason why you believe that women who want to be pursued, also want to be objectified, but men who want to be pursued don't want to be objectified? Well, if that's your argument I disagree, I think this is a false equivalence.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:09 PM
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women ONLY seem to want to be desired, but do NOT do desiring for men themselves. And what I'm trying to tell you is that if I would use erotic media created for men to understand them, my image about them would be akin to the one you have of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:56 PM
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I have a problem with straight romantic literature. Several problems. But I can not take this discussion seriously as long as you pretend that men are usually not the pursued/desired party in the media that caters to their sexual and erotic fantasies. One look at pornhub frontpage will tell you everything. Once you acknowledge this we can discuss why you see pursued women as objects of desire, but don't see pursued men the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:33 PM
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Maybe if someone would give you enough resistance about your backwards belief you would start sucking dick too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 12:26 PM
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So sucking you off was so bad that they rather became tradwifes and stopped giving blow jobs to random men who argue with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 03:23 AM
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"well you've got my tail waggin' "(I don't have game but just hitting the ball back) she's talking to a cool guy who just gets it. Doesn't sound cool just sounds ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 01:37 AM
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There are more women who become hotter into their 30's than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 12:02 AM
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Losing weight is positive affirmations of the self. There more hot 30+ year old women then men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 11:56 PM
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I mean, does it really matter if they would feel a spark prior to finding out that a man is bi? Yes it's matters because it stops seeming like it's about sexual attraction, and it becomes obvious that is was always about ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 11:53 PM
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So would you be more attracted to an obese, 25 year old women with facial acne, or the same women at 30, but slim and no facial blemishes?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 11:47 PM
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A minority of men and women become more attractive after 25 and usually these are the men and women who weren't very healthy before 25. It's about an equal number of men and women. I don't know why would you think there are more men in this category or that there are no women who are more attractive after 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 11:45 PM
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It's a wild concept because it doesn't make sense from the perspective of what sexuality is. Straight women are completely compatible and can be attracted to bisexual men, since the attraction towards each others sex is mutual. Do you also believe that straight men are also only suppose to be attracted to straight women and them being attracted to bi women is some kind of weird degeneracy?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 11:37 PM
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Meanwhile, straight women aren't interested in bisexual men. Because they are straight. This might juts be one of the wildest sentence I ever read on this sub, and you are a user I typically agree with. How does this make any sense? That straight women aren't attracted to *blank* MEN. This is beyond redpill level nonsense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 11:17 PM
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But women who say that they are not attracted to bisexual guys aren't saying that because a good-looking bi guy wouldn't spark sexual arousal in them, they are saying it because they are biphobic bigots.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 10:53 PM
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But if we reduce the circle to attractive men then suddenly there is no shortage of you guys crawling out of the woodworks to say the same exact misandristic stuff about them that you wouldn't take from a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 10:45 PM
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These guys think that if woman is married to someone that doesn't necessary mean that they are attracted to them. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 10:40 PM
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Nothing. I was just checking for consistency.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 10:22 PM
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This is literally uploaded on a channel named thethinkingconservative and is unsourced, so we can't go check out the tiktok of the og uploader. How do you know that this is not acted propaganda/ragebait? Purposefully made for guys like you. If it's real, how do you know how her audience reacted to this take? How do you know how representative this take is in general based on a single tiktok? Why am I suppose the pretend that It's normal that you don't ask these questions by yourself? She doesn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 10:20 PM
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If cunniligus is not submissive then is fellatio submissive?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 10:11 PM
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Are these progressive women in the room with us?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 10:07 PM
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Because that's how society views bisexual men, not me. So society is wrong then. It's important to vocalize this. People like to pretend like it's a hot take. It is a hot take, whole lot of bi men are not out, who knows how many of them are successful with women. Women who aren't attracted to bi men are not saying that they are not attracted because they actually don't feel sexual attraction toward bi men, they are saying this because they are biggots.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 10:04 PM
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there are no differences between straight men and bisexual men. Yes. That's entirely correct. So why did you describe bisexual men as 'not traditionally masculine men', or juxtapose them to 'traditionally masculine men'? Also even if you saying that women are not attracted to bisexual men wouldn't be the hot take it is, it would still be biphobic and homophobic from those women, so it still wouldn't be okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 09:54 PM
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Yeah having to live life with a woman who gives you regular and good blowjobs and handies would be terrible. I have no idea why would anyone sign up for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 07:18 PM
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How are you going to live after you learn that there are straight women who don't enjoy PiV?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 07:09 PM
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I get that. Unfortunately women who prefer casual typically won't be waving flags that they do, because of how society reacts to that, also they usually have a rooster of hookups and fbws that fills up quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:57 PM
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Bud guys = men who call themselves nice guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:45 PM
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Because the abusers, cheaters, and violent men ARE the self identifying nice guys. Hope this helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:44 PM
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I would think finding a man on board with casual would be like finding a straw in a haystack? My impression is there's a massive surplus of men that want casual and a massive shortage of women. From a technical perspective, I believe this is true, but when you look at how men on the sex market communicate towards women who want relationships, and women who want casual, and compare it you start to realise that something doesn't really make sense. Typically women who are out there looking for long…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:10 PM
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As the leader of the association of women who wouldn't sleep with you, the first time we met you, I assure you we don't care whether or not you know about our attraction level to you. We are not all conservative, and we have members learning to be engineers and doctors.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 05:39 AM
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Not all women are sluts like you either. Many people of all genders like to get to know their partners before having sex with them, many also thinks it makes sex better.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 05:23 AM
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Redditors tell me that my view of women is warped because I don’t believe women are attracted to a guy if they wouldn’t sleep with him the first day they meet him Why do you think the man should be okay with sleeping with a woman he just met? Have you ever considered that not all men are whores like you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 05:03 AM
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I don't believe this. ...I have no idea why would someone marry a person they don't find attractive enough to hookup with. (Unless ofc, they don't do hookups in general.)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 07:39 PM
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Because they are more likely to have certifications needed employment and are more likely stay employed, also less likely to have something like a criminal record that restricts them from working. Men are also more likely to drop out from the workforce due to injury, Aiming for under paid, but essential careers (nursing, teaching) also helps. Once you only compare actively employed men and women, you will see that men out-earn women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 07:30 PM
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Women are better at everything than men so this isn't really an argument. Men are more likely to use social manipulation and coercion than women, because more men are evil and power hungry. Men are the predators of women, AND other men, both when violence is restricted and both when it isn't. But there isn't even such a thing as unrestricted violence for everyone, this would be the most important thing to get through your thick male skull. Usually a militant group takes control and has monopoly …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 07:20 PM
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Women aren't out-earning men because the financial elite prefers to pay women. Women are out-earning men because they are out performing men. Hope this helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 07:12 PM
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No. First of all, violence is restricted in Afghanistan as the Taliban has a monopoly on it, non-taliban men have restricted use of violence. Men are significantly more likely to use social manipulation and emotional abuse then women. Patriarchy is literally built on a small group of men socially manipulating and emotionally abusing a bigger group of men. Men are the natural predators of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 07:10 PM
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she was more attracted I guess she is still attracted to you enough to marry you. And I guess this didn't bother you enough to not to marry her either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 07:04 PM
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Being with men is putting your life on the line. Taking up arms and hiding is less dangerous then being with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 07:01 PM
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Do you have proof that the financial elite was happy that now they have to pay wages to their female workers as well? I think they still are unhappy about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 06:55 PM
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they did evil shit Oh so you do acknowledge that some feminists might have hurt their poor little natural predators?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 06:52 PM
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The avilabel data about their children mortality is also very murky and spars, but apparently it wasn't even very good before the takeover, I could only imagine how many new borns they are losing now..
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 06:49 PM
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a couple of years later Did your appearance significantly change? Like losing weight, working out, dressing better? I doubt that you married a women who still thinks you are ugly. There is also a lot of different reason why someone would reject a hookup, maybe she wasn't in the mood, maybe she didn't feel safe with you, maybe she was sick, or in pain on some way, or on her period. You should ask her btw., that would be funny. Or did she say why she wasn't interested back then?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 05:58 PM
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Well yeah a lot of women don't do hookups, I would say most only have sex with men that they have been dating for a while. Some still only have sex in marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 05:40 PM
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...I guess? That's not how I would interpret 'for women there are some men who are only one or the other.' One or the other implies he believes women wouldn't have had sex with their husbands before marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:41 PM
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Doesn't make sense to me. I think most women would've hookup with their husbands. I actually think that the vast majority of women did have casual sex with their husbands meanwhile they were already dating, but I also think that women who are okay with ons and such, would have slept with their husbands if that's what their husband would've approached them for. The other way around it works, like, of course, not all fuckable men are husband material, but for it to be "some men who are only one or…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 02:38 PM
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Asexual women still date. Acknowledged, but most non-asexual men wouldn't date asexual women. We discussing romanto-sexual relationships here. Hot young women have dated rich old guys. In chase of monetary benefit, not because they liked them. Golddigers typically don't like their victims, same way prostitutes think don't like their clients. There could be other value someone derives from relationships which can motivate them to pursue a relationship even if there isn't a high sexual attraction …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 02:19 PM
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So what you are alleging is that no woman would hookup with someone they would potentially marry?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 02:10 PM
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You think good looking men, with money and status don't abuse their partners? Whoo boy. Also you think someone being/not being abusive doesn't have to anything with their personality? That's what I meant in my comment by 'finding someone she likes', finding someone she doesn't find abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 02:00 PM
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Even if this is true, which I doubt, them sleeping with you also doesn't mean that they would be in a relationship with you. Obviously no one who doesn't find you sexually attractive would date you. This doesn't mean that everybody who is sexually attracted to you, and would date you would agree to sleep with you the minute they met you. The ones that do that likely don't care about you outside of a sexual context, therefore they wouldn't date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:51 PM
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Why would your personality matter in the context of an ONS? Or why would your personality, outside of a short date, matter in the context of a hookup? Why so you think that having an ONS or a hookup is the exact same thing as living your life with someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:39 PM
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These guys would rather jump than accept that most people would be in relationship with someone they are both physically attracted to and both like. The blue pill can tell them this, the red pill can tell them this, the black pill can tell them this, the purple pill can tell them this, normies can tell them this, and they do because this is something everyone agrees on. They are simply unable to accept this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:10 PM
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Yeah. All women who wants to be in a relationship with someone she likes and is also attractive to her are mentally ill. Thankfully more and more women are choosing to be mentally ill, aka normal, instead of getting abused by a chopped man. Btw. Evidently men caring about womens personality are also mentally ill. Because why would men care about anything else than looks/money/status?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:05 PM
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I think stoicism was/is more conditioned into boys/men because of violence. I guess that explanation makes sense, if I take the definition of stoicism, on it's face, as in, it's control over your emotions. However most men, I see who try to learn behavioral disciplines like stoicism, continue to have anger issues, and keep being prone to violence, because they fail tor recognize these behaviors as emotions in the first place. Also there are other reasons why I think stoicism is unhealthy, but ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 09:33 PM
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And how do cultures decide which traits they understand as male traits, and which traits they understand as female traits?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 09:23 PM
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Why would society try to only condition one sex to be stoic though?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 09:20 PM
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the conclusion I reached The conclusion that you reached, which was that you are going to whine at someone because they are in a bad mood and don't want to have sex with you? Yeah that's actually a great way to make them leave you, maybe I shouldn't interrupt. was against the hedge TO MAKE their marriage special. If you want to marry a virgin, to make you 'feel special', then you should absolutely aim for that. Understandably she most likely will want you to be virgin as well. You know, so that …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 09:17 PM
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Maybe because the other loser only met her once, and she just happened to be in a mood for sex that time? But actually, your point is completely understandable, just leave her. You shouldn't be in a relationship with someone who doesn't satisfies you sexually enough, or someone whos moods you can't put up with. But most importantly, she shouldn't have sex with you, when she is in a bad mood. Actually maybe she should call that guy from a few years ago and ask if he is in the mood for some funsie…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 08:10 PM
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That's something beyond me tbh. On one hand I do acknowledge that there is probably less women than men on the casual sex market, but I think there is more to it, like they just don't like women who have casual sex willingly, or maybe besides the sex, they also want that rush that breaking off with someone gives them. Edit: Them wanting to achieve a specific of body count also probably plays a role.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 07:24 PM
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Hm. Not everyone wants to be in a relationship, I can understand that. The problem is that these guys want to have sex with women who don't do casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 07:04 PM
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Because their actual intention is to make someone believe they are in a relationship, and then ghost them after they had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 06:01 PM
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But saying "boys don't cry" in not a trait, or a behavior. I could argue that boys crying in despite being told they shouldn't is proof that stoicism is not a male trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:28 PM
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So if you're not lying, then why are you claiming that lying helps with seduction?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:02 PM
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I agree, but this guy isn't honest about what he thinks asshole behavior or being a player is, on purpose. He doesn't want to make sense of things he just wants to demonize women via the use of goomba fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:00 PM
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So what about kind men who have a lot of sex? And what about assholes who don't get laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:33 PM
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Is it ok though? I get the impression that you are upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:29 PM
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No, but don't be surprised if someone kicks you out of their bed once they realize it's not true. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:28 PM
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Or maybe it didn't work, the woman just happened to have been in the mood to have sex and didn't really care what you were saying in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:26 PM
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I also think that this is partly about them not understanding what a player mean. Like the player, isn't the super good looking guy, who often has quick casual sex. It's the guy who dates someone for month, just to ghost their partner after having sex. It's like the opposite of quick and frequent casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:23 PM
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Like what, you lie that you are good in bed, meanwhile your not?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:13 PM
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We are not obtuse, we just don't see why do you think this would work. What if the woman says she is leaving if you turn the situation sexual? What if she would have come ready to have sex if you would have texted that to her, over 'let's kick it'.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:09 PM
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No it doesn't because not all criminals are hot. So it's not the lifestyle, it's the looks. Reward. Like what? Having sex with someone hot is at max a reward to yourself, not them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:04 PM
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So if you want to get laid, then lying would be you saying that you don't want to get laid. How is saying that you don't want to get laid suppose to help you get laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:01 PM
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Or maybe he is simple just hot? You know, like the hot criminal women are hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:58 PM
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constructs that are understood on a cultural level What does this mean though? Like how do you observe this?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:28 PM
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So this is what I meant by people not missing out on lot by you closing yourself off. Men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 12:41 AM
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What do you think other men would have in being your friends and having your back?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 12:34 AM
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Guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 12:24 AM
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Do you think your romantic partner would want to live with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 12:24 AM
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Is it that a good friend group heals people, or is that good friend groups don't have guys like these in them? Chicken or egg?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 12:22 AM
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Wouldn't be my man 'cause he is run through.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 12:18 AM
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A genuine romantic partner would be a friend you interact with, both in-person and during the casual portion of the day You sound exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 12:11 AM
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They really aren't missing out on too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 12:07 AM
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So this is why you are not filtering out anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 11:56 PM
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I agree, but what I wanted to point out with this, is that the idea that someone should compliment you just because you dressed up according to your own style is a little bit flawed. I get that romantic partners like to flatter, and get flattered by each other though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 06:57 PM
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Are you a progressive woman though? What if he actually doesn't like the way you dress up yourself based on your taste? Like for example, you wear a magenta colour dress, and he just genuinely hates that colour. Should he lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 06:22 PM
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So you would describe someone who you went on one, single date with, as your ex, whom you dated?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 04:43 PM
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Going on dates. Why do you need an other term for that? You expressed what you wanted, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 04:33 PM
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'to go on a date' e.g.: They went on a date during the weekend. 'To date/ to be dating someone' e.g.: They are in a committed relatinship. btw. the english language SUCKS. Like most other languages have completely different terms for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 04:14 PM
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It takes a red pill level expertise in dating to not be able to tell when a woman rips you off for free food, in a single date, and to have a several month long sexually and romantically exclusive relationship with one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 03:46 PM
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You can't form a goomba fallacy about a group that is incapable of unique, independent thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 01:48 PM
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This has nothing to do with women validating them, this has to do with them wanting to feel superior to other men I guess that also could part of it. I think it's mostly that their version of validation would be to walk away from sexual encounter while believing that they somehow hurt the woman involved. This is also why they constantly say stuff like 'chad is pumping and dumping women' - because they feel offended or demasculinized by the idea that woman would have sex with an attractive men fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 07:05 PM
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Most men have had relationships by the time they were 30. The men here mean a very specific scenario by female validation though. It's something like: To have casual sex with a woman, who you believe has no pervious history with casual sex, and also for this to be not clearly named or treated as a casual encounter by her. ...And for this specifically to happen while barely knowing each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 05:24 PM
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To serve is quite literally what a servant does. Being a servant quite literally means you serve someone. I wouldn't touch your disgusting goblin, you names Chad with a 10 foot pol. I advice you to get rid of it before it lays eggs. 😂 I only care about good looking men and your ain't one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 09:44 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 09:36 AM
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No women wants your used up, loser, bitch men. 😂 10/0 Keep serving nothing and being delusional. Do you want to hear something that scientific? Successful and well mentally adjusted people don't want to be the servants of another.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 09:10 AM
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The men you love are my icks. The way you are treated by your men is my ick. The truth is that you don't love your men and how they treat you even if you claim you do. Love A woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 08:28 AM
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You see? You can understand that women are not dressing for men. Good boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 11:49 PM
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Conventionally attractive women get more matches on tinder, than non-conventionally attractive women. I am going to assume this is the same for men. Any non-conventionally attractive person getting any matches disproves that everyone is only going for the top, and you already failed to prove that there is any significant difference between male and female hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 09:54 PM
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Because I like makeup and pretty clothes. Now what?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 09:31 PM
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What trp calls soft 'harems' have essentially nothing to do with harems, because the women in them are also having casual sex with multiple men. The whole point of a harem would be that all the members are only having sex with it's owner.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 09:19 PM
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engagement ring and to be proposed to Engagement rings aren't a thing where I live, there are only wedding rings. I learned what an engagement ring is from PPD. I thought he is giving her the wedding ring in movies. lol. I don't see the point btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 07:57 PM
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Who does that? This is quite literally what PUA/TRP teaches to men. This is 'The Game'. I'm giving it to you free and summarized. You go on a few dates, maybe have sex or not. A lot of people don't have sex until dating, many of them until marriage. Even more importantly, a lot of people who look for casual sex, don't have casual sex with people who say they are looking for a serious relationships. That’s the normal path of dating. It's not unheard of, but it's actually rare that ex-hookup partn…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 06:48 PM
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Just wear complexion. Maybe do your eyebrows. That's actually the type of makeup men prefer on women as well, maybe a natural looking pink lipstick added.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 06:41 PM
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No. If you tell someone that you want date them, and let's say, they agree, then you suddenly change your stance, that you actually don't know whether you want to date them until you have sex, then you lied at first, regardless of what would the outcome be after sex, and regardless of the genders of the involved. Not lying at the first interaction would have been: 'I would love to date you, but I can't be sure until we have sex.' or something like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 06:36 PM
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Sure, but the first sentence was still a lie within the context of the second.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 06:21 PM
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I want to date you. Wait! I actually can't date you until we have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 06:10 PM
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You are completely right.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 03:33 PM
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And? You think fat women don't look whether their ass looks good in a dress or not? They can simultaneously think that their fat friend is pretty and that they, themselves are fat, or out of shape, and this makes perfect sense because we are looking at two different person, viewing each other differently. This is not complex, you are just dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 03:31 PM
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Yes, that's why I said that women who don't want kids are probably less likely to care, if you are still good looking enough to compete with men several years your junior. But to be fair, those women won't be the Giga Staycies either. The highest value women will continue to date their good-looking peers, + but many high value older women are starting to date younger guys too. So maybe some older guys are able to get with the below average younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 02:15 PM
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People don't think men have any beauty to tarnish. It's quite literally the only thing men have. (Besides fertility, maybe.) Why is that Chad the good looking guy, always has girlfriends regardless of any other qualities he might has, but the fat guy studying to be an engineer never has anyone? Think.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 02:09 PM
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mid 30s Well maybe if you really look several years younger and she doesn't want (bio)children. Otherwise why would a young woman choose someone with declining sperm quality and counts? + rapidly declining looks. Not even the spermbanks want you anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:58 PM
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Well he can't observe anything else in the statistics either. But keep being delusional, if it helps you deal with your emotions post-wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:48 PM
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Interesting that you choose to write this under a comment of a woman, praising chubby ladies for their feminine looks. By the way, why do millions of skinny women worldwide participate in the body acceptance movement, and size inclusivity movement? Why do thin women support plus size models? Why don't men have a similar movement? :) Why do men constantly berate each other for being shorter, or having less money? Why do men constantly cat-fight about their dick sizes? Why do taller men physically…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:36 PM
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But aren't fat male celebrities picked apart and taken down from the screen? Why aren't the thin wives of fat males told that they should divorce and get a newer model? Why aren't fat male politicians and professionals character attacked based on their gluttony and laziness? Why don't fat males receive death/rape threats on dating apps? Why aren't fat men constantly reminded that no one ever gonna love them and that they have no value, because the one value they would have, their looks, isn't th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:16 PM
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How would you describe someone who has hyperthyroidism and can't gain weight?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:08 PM
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So all of these things could be said about fat men as well, but I'm not seeing this arguments being weaponized to take down fat men often enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:05 PM
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But most of them are fat as well. And many times the fat women look better then them. I mean, I'm not into very fat women but some of them look nice with thick thighs, big boobs, wide hips and a little tummy. But fat men immediately develop big, ugly, bear bellies. Isn't this more of a jealousy thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 12:52 PM
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I'm just exploring your self-deprecation kink. I guess the Stacies passing you around do as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 10:12 PM
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Finding someone with acceptable expectations for you is your interest, therefore it's your responsibility. If you can't find anyone like that it's also your responsibility to preserve your peace. Same for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 09:04 PM
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guy who threw it in you for a night. I’ve been the guy to do so Do you have a good relationship with your mother? You sound like you crave a lot of female attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 06:40 PM
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Are you talking about women and males? I think you can refer to each however you want. I will.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 06:24 PM
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She said she would never try to turn a gay man straight, just because she finds him attractive, not that all men who don't find her attractive are gay. You are a male though so it's understandable that you struggle with reading and simple concepts.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 06:16 PM
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But a lot more men now are choosing not to date at all Good! I'm happy to hear that a lot more men are trying to build intrinsic self-worth and are learning to set boundaries. They are just a few thousands years late. Things are indeed getting better then. Who knows, maybe men will even learn soon how not to submit to strong-man narcissists.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 04:23 PM
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Do you think I can exchange attractive men for gas or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 04:06 PM
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My comment is me asking attractive men who don't want to date to opt out of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 04:02 PM
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You can always be more attractive. Loose weight, work-out, do skin-care and makeup, get plastic surgery, ect.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 03:43 PM
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Why would any attractive men who wants to date a woman join a movement that is about not dating? This makes about as much sense as a woman who is courting a man she ikes to be her boyfriend joining 4B.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 03:41 PM
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I always broadcast it an loudly. More men should be attractive though. They should start with eating less. Also not all attractive man are good for dating and marriage either because some are whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 03:34 PM
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Settling down with an attractive man who doesn't want to date you, and makes this obvious for you, is far worse than not finding a man. I guess men can't understand this because they would just accept anyone forced into settling with them regardless how abusive she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 03:30 PM
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Right, but a man has to become economically viable to become worthy of dating. If he is not hot and young enough to snatch himself a provider. Women don't have to. Why would anyone date a women who can't provide for herself? In this economy? The whole "date whilst you are making progress" is only for women. Plenty of men are dating throughout their high school and collage years. In fact the average age men loose their virginity is 17. Maybe they should've worried about settling at that age inste…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 03:13 PM
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Because he is an extremely unattractive post-wall hag who needs women, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 03:06 PM
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What's the problem with telling a woman that she is economically unattractive? A lot of women are, so are s lot of men, especially for someone who wants to have children in good socio-economic conditions. You need 2 above average paycheque for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 02:45 PM
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Or maybe men should be less fat, less slutty and less ugly and then maybe they wouldn't have to lie to go on 300$ dates with women they don't even like, just to get their sexual advances turned down?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 02:18 PM
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Okay, let's hope that you are right. Alternatively why are the men on dating apps, who are allegedly there to find someone to date, going out on dates with women, they don't want to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 01:59 PM
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Or maybe the people complaining about getting played should look up the definition of a hookup before consensually having one?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 01:54 PM
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I don't think that men who doesn't want to date should participate in dating. Things been only getting better for me personaly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 01:40 PM
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You wrote a comment about being a whore and I asked you how is it women's problem that you are self admitted worthless whore?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 01:09 PM
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How is it women's problem that you ruined your bonding ability and you hit the wall without a family?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 01:05 PM
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You know what? Alright. But don't you think that it's at the very least a little bit weird that someone who doesn't want to date is on multiple dating apps and is constantly asking out people on dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 12:42 PM
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This. Yes, and they also tend to ignore or downplay, crimes, and crazy behavior that the women who go for these men do. Also the belief that any good looking men, who have dating options must be terrible/an asshole/an abuser. It's basically internalized misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 09:37 PM
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Why would anyone care about you later?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 11:16 PM
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As a bisexual woman I read both wlw and mlm, but my mlm collection is just bigger, because there are simply more mlm writers on the market, especially since straight women also tend to gravitate towards mlm, at least at first. I also think that even as queer women reading stories with male lovers allows you to sort of understand the story from a distance, like from a third person perspective, instead of having self-inserting into one of the characters, and therefore it allows you to think about …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 07:48 PM
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why do 40-50% of the people who get married end up getting divorced Because in the given moment they believe that continuing the marriage would be a even worse than the divorce. I think this is usually true tbh, but it depends. They mostly all end up moving on and living a fine life afterwards. Ask a Mens Rights Activist (MRAs) about this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 10:37 PM
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I mean you just implied that it's not a big deal. I don't think that anyone I know, that has divorced would agree with it not being a big deal, but if you believe it to be so casual, why not expect it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 10:28 PM
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So you're getting married while already planning for the divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 10:19 PM
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Okay, so then the 'legal adult' can pay for her own expenses. Why wouldn't she?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 10:01 PM
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For some reason their woman equivalents do not want them. Compare to thug criminals, who constantly get their assorted partners. But what we are saying is that the women who doesn't want to pair up with their male equivalents for any given reason, and the women who get with criminals aren't the same women. In fact the women who get with the criminals are often their equivalents. thug criminals get credit for being tough and edgy. Which fits the notion that women like powerful masculine men So th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 09:00 PM
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So refer back to my original comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 05:35 PM
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What kind of guy do you think they were talking about when they said "I need a soldier"? They meant a guy whose street aka a thug. Bro... I don't know how to prove it to you that I would never make the connection between the lyrics "I need a soldier" and someone needing a thug who is street. Like, what? How does that make any sense? Wouldn't a soldier and a thug be the exact opposite?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 05:27 PM
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Media: Does all media that showcases abusive relationships glorifies it? Even then, I don't think that media showcasing abusive relationships are more common or popular then media showcasing normal relationships. Other women: I don't see other women glorifying abusive relationships, as I stated in my pervious comment I see the opposite. Mothers to their daughters: While I don't see this either, I do believe that where abuse is allowed to continue it happens because of generational trauma, but I …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:43 PM
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women see violence or aggression from a man, and translates that as masculine/protective. Sure buddy. Go try that theory out anywhere outside the hood or the trailer park and report back your findings.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:32 PM
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Even more so, drug dealers have access to low socio-economic status, drug addicted women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:28 PM
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glorify these types of relationships Who is glorifying these types of relationships? Who is advocating for police to look into abuse cases even if the victim doesn't make a report? Who are more likely to encourage women to leave relationships with men they perceive as abusive? Who is advocating for no fault divorce to exist so that victims can escape more easily instead of having to prove their abuse at court?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:15 PM
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So many women have unresolved daddy issues that they basically seek out abusers cause this is what they are used to and when they are treated right they get bored. So when we point out that the women you are talking about aren't mentally well, and they need help, are we correct or are we 'misogynistic'?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:05 PM
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Okay, so it's not really that men who have more casual sex tend to have better lives, it's that good looking men regardless of what type of people they are tend to have better lives. Now we just need to agree that it's the same for good-looking women and we reached the full truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 03:52 PM
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But seeking out women who often have casual sex will likely increase your success-rate of obtaining casual sex though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 03:46 PM
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Maybe charismatic people are more likely to approach and initiate, and are also less likely to feel put down by possible rejections? And therefore they both manage achieve and perceive experiencing greater success when it comes to anything inter-personal, or social.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 03:43 PM
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Or maybe bad boys are more likely to meet with, or be surrounded by women who seek out casual sex often?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 03:31 PM
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Considering that the man is 50% responsible for his child existing, the only way he could reasonably and just-fully towards every party, get out of under his obligations, is if he presents the document that would allow for him to abandon in the case of conception before the sexual act, to the woman. So that she can decide about it with this in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 12:33 AM
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Zero responsibility? Or 100% responsible? What was education like where you grow up? Anyway... The responsibility is not the childbirth. It's the child. The woman is fully responsible for proceeding to give birth. (I mean unless she was actually held back from accessing abortion somehow.) The father and the mother share 50% each, the responsibility for the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 12:05 AM
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I mean considering that miscarriage exists, not a lot. I think unfortunately there is also a lot of women today who would be held back from abortion by either external or either internal psychological means due to it's history and perception, and I think that shouldn't be ignored. From a bodily autonomy perspective I also find it coercive to make someone more likely to go under a procedure, by abandoning financial responsibility, especially since the mother can still potentially agree to mutual …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 11:38 PM
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You are the one being ignorant to the actual findings of the studies you linked. At least I'm not as ignorant as you, a mindless propagandist, and you are also ignorant that boys are granted privileges in education, and a lot of and more often then not they are favoritised over smarter and more hardworking girls. The truth is that men are simply not as smart or capable. Get a grip.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 06:52 PM
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Not a single one of these studies claims that there is explicit discrimination against male studenst.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 05:03 PM
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In your scenario it's the mother abandoned the child since she first gave birth to it and then proceeded to abandon it. This doesn't change the fact that it falls back on the state. It matters because he has enthusiastic explicit consent which matters. Before sex? But then this is actually just the same thing I said first just flipped around a little bit... In your scenario, we have men who are not obligated to take care of their own children, and if they want to have them they have to sign a do…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 12:27 AM
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Pregnancy is a consequence of it to Pregnancy is a consequence of it too, yes, but the pregnancy can be stopped without taking away anyone's bodily autonomy. If your dependence of raising a child is on the father being present The child that he created is what is dependent on the father, evidently. It's also dependent on the mother and if she can't support it alone she can give it up for adoption, so it would be dependent on the state. Why would the state support the father abandoning before bir…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 11:52 PM
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…yeah, so if a child is born, the woman is the only one who can abandon it or place it for adoption. Incorrect. The man can abandon it, but if the woman takes custody then he will have to pay child support, same the other way around. If the woman abandons the child and the man shows up an takes custody then she will be required to pay child support. Men can’t. The woman chooses for the man whether or not he’s responsible for the baby for 18 years. By taking custody of the child, otherwise no. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 11:36 PM
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We don't remove children's from the custody of a parent/parents because they are poor. We absolutely do remove neglected children, and guess children are most commonly neglected for. Because she is the only one in he situation that consents o being a parent. No, as I said we don't know whether or not she wants to give it up after giving birth, the only thing we know that she wants to deliver it. If the man decides to withhold support then she the option to have it and potentially keep it closes,…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 11:31 PM
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What? Why aren't men taking owner ship of their own bodies and the consequences that come with it when it comes to creating babies and stepping up to raise them? And no, if a women singed the paper, had sex anyway, and on top of that had the baby then she should absolutely be the only one held responsible from that point on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 11:19 PM
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It's relevant because what men are discussing is abandonment, because they can't make the baby not born. (Via legal means.)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 11:13 PM
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Women do have the ability to abandon their already born child in front a fire station and let the state pay So do men. And if either side steps in and takes custody then the other side would be forced to pay child support. She is not legally obligate to tell he father that she is pregnant. She is not legally obligated to stay in the same city/state/country that the parent and she is not legally obligated to tell him when if the child is born either. Obviously the man isn't able to take custody i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 11:10 PM
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Because she wants to deliver the pregnancy, and doesn't want to have an abortion, obviously we don't know whether she wants to keep the child or not, but regardless, if she would decide to not to abandon it, then the man signing away parental duty would close the option to keep the child and be able to support it financially, therefore create a coercive scenario where the mother is forced to either abort, abandon, or not be able to support financially, on only one paycheck. This both a potential…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 11:06 PM
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No, because this would yet again put an unequally large responsibility on women, and on however will support all the kids that the father won't. It should be a one and done decision before the sex so that if the man foregoes future support the woman can consider going ahead with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 10:55 PM
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But it's not true. If the father takes custody of the abandoned child, she will be required to pay child support. Only if both parents abandon are they both cleared from their parental duties.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 10:43 PM
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Before sex sounds reasonable, but it should be singed by both parties and it should be singed in front of a legal representative of the state. Like let's involve everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 10:27 PM
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But the other parent taking away support is also violates bodily autonomy because it forces/coerces the woman to have any abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 10:25 PM
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So now you are protecting degenerate sociopaths from paying child support?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 10:19 PM
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It is a biology thing because men can't make the child not born.. or at least not via the termination of the pregnancy. A lot of men do kill the women they impregnate though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 10:18 PM
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For the 10127th time; Abortion isn't about becoming a parent or not, it's about stopping the pregnancy and only that. Women who do wanted to become parents and so did their spouse have ended up having to have abortions. Women do not have the ability to abandon their already born children with the father and not be required to pay child support, so men shouldn't have the ability either.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 10:14 PM
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So wanting to equalize the draft sign up wasn't pro male enough? Please, do share what do you think would be "pro-male", I'll wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 07:19 PM
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There isn't any way I could take you seriously as an adult. You literally believe in magical things like, paths that all men should go down on, and paths that all women should go down on, and the rest of your ideology is just lashing out towards people who aren't willing to get on your divine plan for them. You are the equivalent of a child who believes the Santa exists, to me. Hope this gives you that substance that you craved.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 07:15 PM
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The oppressed men continue to vote for politicians that want to continue the discriminating legal practises. e.g. the democrats wanted to equalize the signing up for the draft and men overwhelmingly voted republican.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 06:07 PM
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Could you link me the original research that only has the boomer percentages in it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 06:00 PM
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My point was there is reversal in the trend of new generations being more progressive than their parents - this was true for 10 and 20 years ago, but stopped working in the last decade. But the study you linked doesn't tell you this when you look at the data it collected. For example the study says 23% of US genZ men they asked, agree with the wife obeying to husband thingy, and the study has NO ONLY US boomer data published, because it only has the combined boomer percentage from the countries …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:52 PM
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I don't know about any education and workplace discrimination against men. I agree that the draft should be equal or abolished, but only men being drafted isn't discrimination against men, it's discrimination against women. Same with conscription. I agree with the retirement age. Court bias exists because courts consider likeliness to commit crime again, I agree that should be abolished as well. I also agree with everything else you said about the courts. I just feel like I have to add that even…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:22 PM
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Wall street and GDP are profiting. And who owns wall street GDP and if you are as against wall street gdp as I am, why aren't you on board with men not working? mass consumption Mass consumption of which are the main spenders are mothers with families. I'm the mother of a young boy and I find it incredibly alarming how little people are dating because they see each others' genders as the enemy. Why would your child want to date when his mother tells him that young women are the enemy? But the mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:12 PM
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It's almost like oppression is actually something that has obvious defining factors and pin pointable practises, that are other than someone claiming to be oppressed by someone else's free will.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:03 PM
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And don't even get me started how it's already nonsense that they didn't ask the gender flipped version of every question. Like what did the original study compare to what? This is obvious framing by the people who made this study. They literally did everything to have this outcome for the headlines.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 04:57 PM
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What are men being discriminated from?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 04:53 PM
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So are men forming families or are men profiting? Obviously if men are profiting, and by that they are unhappy, we need to save them by having them form families instead of profiting. Why are men performing at the workplace instead of at home with their children? Why do young men find the idea of getting married and having children offensive? Just look at how happy stay at home dads are. Do you not care about men being happy? Are you a misandrist? If your husband is working then you are not a na…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 04:51 PM
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Well it makes sense for men, since we have way more of a sexual drive then the average woman. Even more proof the you all are sluts. Also men cant be sluts we are the ones that create them if anything. You have it all backwards. All men are sluts and we women make you into sluts. Well, if you are young and hot that is. From what I’ve seen yall love to use the argument that I’m about to when it fits and then downplay it when it doesn’t. This is a huge reason why the comparison is bad. Since yall …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 07:44 PM
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The religions can fuck off. They can comeback when they are ready to punish men for their incompetence. That's the real and only solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 07:12 PM
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What he is saying is obviously the women who continue to seek out casual sex, do so because they benefit from it, even if they are a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 04:26 PM
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Religions have been saying that women don't orgasm enough during casual sex and that men are selfish in bed? What religions?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 04:24 PM
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Yeah... I mean I agree. I mean, I said what I said just to protect women who enjoy casual sex with men, but I agree that they are outliers, but they can do whatever they want too, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 04:05 PM
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But why do you think that every women have the same exact sexual experiences? I can tell you that there are women who are easier to get off, and then there are those who are harder to get off. We are not alike. I agree, that the average women have a meh time when it comes to casual sex (with men), but it's not universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 03:55 PM
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And don't you think that these two things might be more then a little bit connected? Also, don't you think that the women who enjoy casual sex might do, because they have a higher rate of orgasm in them than the average women? And therefore they regret it less?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 03:42 PM
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It's doesn't have a very strong effect to begin with though, like there is no one that has a problem with just having sex, orgasm, pet your partners head, then leave. By the time oxytocin metabolizes you won't even care about the person you were with. The reward cycle forms around the orgasm, not the person causing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 03:30 PM
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Oxytocin makes you like everyone who makes you orgasm, temporarily, until it wears off. Then post orgasm clarity hits. Not that this matters that much when we are talking about hetero sex for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 03:10 PM
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You are missing OP's point. The question, if all of what you wrote is true is, why are men approaching women, who have not yet had sex with them, under the tagline of : "I'm interested in a relationship with you."? Evidently they are not. Because if men would be so afraid of what you wrote, then they would only tell this to women who already hooked up with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 03:03 PM
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Oh I know that most of you all are not good looking enough, but I'm yet to witness that stopping any of you in hopelessly trying to get sex 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 10:07 AM
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In today's dating realm, people very often have sex WITHOUT commitment. People rarely stay together after having casual sex. Because it's casual sex, it doesn't have anything do with commitment. I mean I guess this is the point OP argues. That men don't understand difference between sex without commitment and with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 09:24 AM
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Couples stay together despite fidelity. Fidelity is about exclusivity, not commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 09:18 AM
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So just because Stacy isn't choosing you, you are going to reward a criminal with your body? I wouldn't be surprised if something bad would happen with you one day :/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 09:13 AM
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Maybe in the 1950's couples who had casual sex were more likely to be forced together due to accidental pregnancies and such? Because, you know it's the difference between relationships and casual sex that we are debating, and not the existence of casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 09:08 AM
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No dude. What people are trying to explain to you is that not everyone wants to date everybody they fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 09:05 AM
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Casual sex is more desirable for women then relationship without sex. That's why when women have casual sex they gonna tell you that that's what they want. So if men love casual sex so much (dubious) then why do they essentially lock themselves out of the casual sex market by spending their time lying about commitment to women who don't want casual sex and won't have it with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 09:01 AM
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That literally doesn't make any sense, because there is no connection between sex and commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 08:56 AM
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It's entirely and exactly the same. Women don't look bad for me for their sexual choices, men on the other hand... Yeah, I can tell that someone is desperate slut when I see one, and I only seen male ones so far. Any men can leave a women pregnant, good men included. This is why no one should have casual sex without the ability to prevent pregnancy. Which is something that everyone regardless of gender should know how to do. It's important for everyone who they lay with due to physical safety an…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 08:54 AM
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Well then men should keep it behind their zippers an reward good women instead of giving it away to insufferable bitches :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 08:40 AM
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Who do you think is more likely to say “what are we” or “is there a chance for something more” After casual sex? A sixteen year old to his/her high school sweetheart. Like seriously? Also in my experience of casual relationships there was only 1 person who wouldn’t have wanted more if I tried. But she was the type to not want a relationship ever (according to her). Heck even all my relationships have advanced from hooking up. So the only thing you are relying on is your anecdotal experiences. My…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 01:57 AM
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Well, if they cared about morals so much, then these men that don’t have them shouldn’t get anything short or long. So, it shouldn’t matter at all if it’s the same thing the men that aren’t so good are still be rewarded if they are getting that, which is one of the main things that men are after to begin with. If men having sex with insufferable bitches isn't reward for the insufferable bitches, then women having sex with annoying assholes is also not a reward for the annoying assholes. Deal wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:37 PM
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Expect having casual sex with ugly men absolutely not going to prevent ugly men from not committing to you. Now if you had sex with an ugly guy and he left, not only you are still single, but you also fucked an ugly dude. Better to fuck a good looking dude and not regret it because, you would have without a relationship too anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:10 PM
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We do know that relationship isn't a sought after thing when it comes to certain types of men (304), this is why we say, that when they do say that they are interested in a relationship, but then ask for casual sex before commitment, they lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:00 PM
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Okay, then your dating market is your pervious hookups. No shame in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:49 PM
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You will never be able to tell if a man who says they want to date you, actually wants to date you or not. But you can easily not get used for casual sex by just only having casual sex with people you would want to have casual sex with even if there wouldn't be a looming relationship. Btw. If a man tells you that they want to be in a relationship with you, but they can't until sex happens, then they don't actually want to be in a relationship with you. They just said so. That they CAN'T. There i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:40 PM
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I don't think that there are as many women claiming that they were used for casual sex they agreed to as you pretend there are. However, trust me, if a woman tells me that they were used for casual sex by a guy who claimed to be interested in more, I'm the number one who tells that woman that this doesn't make any sense, because casual sex is not a prerequisite for a relationship, and if he really would have been interested in a relationship with her as much as she was interested in one with him…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:28 PM
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Well, I don't know the sexual revolution was in the 1960's and studies found that the number of people reporting to have casual sexual experiences has declined during the 2010's, while positivity towards it grew. So why would people who don't have a problem with casual sex report that they are not having it? Plus more relationships that start off casual becoming serious ie: situationships, FWB to couple etc. I think 'more' does a lot of heavy lifting here especially without a clear comparison. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 07:48 PM
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Exactly. And the few women on the market, who only wants casual, often don't want committed relationships at all. Obviously they might change their mind at some point, but this is a shaky foundation for a man who looks for commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 07:25 PM
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People are having less casual sex then they used to have, but attitudes about casual sex are more positive now. But you are right somewhat because, less women wants to date then at any time before, so if a relationship wanting male's past-casual starts looking for dates seriously, she might be his only option, given that sexual compatibility is already established and other incompatibilities don't come up. I think it's still rarer then common, and again it has little connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 07:19 PM
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It can. It has little connection. I disagree that it's common.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 06:40 PM
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And often don't. That's the other point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 06:38 PM
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If you feel a spark you have sex Dude. I literally can't believe this... This ridiculous. You are literally describing having casual sex!! Having sex outside of a relationship. Yes! That's what casual sex is! Regardless of you going committed afterwards or not! Your comment should be unironically be pinned under this post, because you are literally the prime example of men not understanding that they are having casual sex with women who won't commit to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 05:59 PM
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But for the women who do pay for their dates and transportation, do participate in planning and do buy gifts, it remains a money investment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 05:47 AM
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In my opinion it's not rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 09:09 PM
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If you split the bill you are both paying. So yes they pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 07:50 PM
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When you're making the claim that it doesn't cost me money to go on dates I never made that claim. I made the claim that dating is a money and time investment for women. From my perspective this is the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 05:09 PM
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I don't know why would anyone do that. I wouldn't. I mean sure, you can be annoyed if you feel like everyone you think is attractive and would be compatable with you is in a relationship already, but if you eventually don't start looking elsewhere that's a self defeat. I see men do this more than women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 04:59 PM
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How would I know that? Spitting means they ended spending an equal amount of money and time though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 04:52 PM
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There is no consistent success then because someone can always find someone else more attractive then you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 04:37 PM
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Yes. There is a small number of women who like having quick casual sex with men they don't really know, or care about, but it's a small group even to rely on for casual sex. The cherry on top is that TRP men say they wouldn't even date these women. Chad fishing” experiments where very attractive men admit to the worst kinds of political beliefs and felonies and still attract some women I actually haven't seen an honest chad fishing experiment yet, where they actually show that felonies and belie…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 04:21 PM
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People can only say they love someone if the person in question is unattractive? Attractive people are unlovable?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 03:47 PM
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That's something that you can communicate though. If you want a romantic relationship with someone you can tell them and ask them about commitment. If you want sexual access to someone you can tell them and ask the for a hookup. Simple, clear. Why would anyone be more likely to hookup with you if you say that you need it to make sure they are not friendzoneing you? Again, it doesn't even make any sense, because they can friendzone you afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 03:41 PM
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How is dating not a time and money investment for women? dragging things out only benefits women. I don't know. I wouldn't say that spending time with someone who describes time spent with you as 'dragging things out' as beneficial for you, but to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 03:37 PM
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The Red Pill is actually telling men that they need to get more attractive So? I'm not seeing men becoming more attractive fast enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 03:29 PM
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Everything is perfectly understandable. Then I assume it's not a problem if a high N count men ends up in a relationship with a high N count women from tinder who appreciates “experience” and “confidence”, since it's just his market meeting him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 03:24 PM
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they were being forward so I would not friendzone them Why would they assume you wouldn't friendzone them after having sex with them? I strangely assume they wouldn't have had problem with that. lol. And imagine if they would have put all this energy into finding someone who just wants casual sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 03:06 PM
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I just meant that it isn’t likely that both people want a relationship at the exact same time. Well, relationships only happen if both sides want it it the exact same time so... two people who might have had sex before commitment but are working towards a place where they are comfortable with commitment. I was saying— maybe someone’s interest is confirmed for them 2 weeks earlier before sex. Would that 2 week period be a situationship? If neither of them is sure about wanting to be in a committe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 01:27 PM
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I don't see why would higher libido, or a greater emphasize on sex lead to hiding the intent for casual sex though. I understand that the casual sex market for het-men is really spars, but still, this doesn't excuses lying about relational intent. Worst case scenario, you put time, effort and perhaps even money into spending time with someone you don't like and they won't end up having casual sex with you, because your intentions weren't clear from the start. Best case scenario you put even more…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 10:14 AM
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No. I'm happy that she keeps this topic alive. I'm also interested in learning more about this, it's I don't think that the needle moved for me at all, or I got a reasonable explanation. What you have written in the rest of your post is really interesting, let's pick it apart. It's glaringly obvious she hates male sexuality What part of what you call 'male sexuality' does Lilith criticize in her posts? Would you describe it? Is being purposefully ambiguous about your sexual and relational intere…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 08:51 AM
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Maybe parties where some people are making out by the end? People are making out at parties all the time, people in relationships attend parties. They behave like normal women who sleep with a guy because they’re in the mood for it and they’re gazing at him a bit I mean, them being abnormal was never part of my argument, It was that women sleeping with people who are complete strangers to them are rather outliers than the norm. I would say it's more so a minority even among men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 07:39 AM
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Did you ever go to any parties..? Sort of (?) What type of parties do you mean? They’re normal people that flirt a bit if I’m nice to them for a while This doesn't really negates that quick, commitment-free casual sex is more of an outright choice on there side, rather then something they need to be convinced about. In fact, I would say it proves it further.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 07:28 AM
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I doubt there are any stats on this. Honestly though, just visit a college (or attend one for 4 years) and see who’s sleeping around. I just finished 4 years of collage in a STEM subject. I don't think that I have had nearly large enough friend group to serve as a sample, but they consisted of people who are either in relationships, or not sexually active, maybe some long-term FBWs on the more lgbtq+ side of things. Not for people they’re attracted to who make them comfortable and are used to in…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 07:04 AM
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I disagree that anyone in these scenario is lying though. If someone tells you that they want to be in a relationship with you but they want to have sex with you first, then it's obvious that they don't want to be in a relationship with you then, because they want to have sex with you first. I mean... you can insists that these people are trying to lie, but then this lie is so bad that it's basically not working? I would say people who enter into relationship with others, then leave shortly afte…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 06:40 AM
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A young single college girl that’s majoring in pre-med, engineering, or to become a teacher, and who has well off parents, will probably not wait much at all to have sex with someone she wants. This is not true in my experience. Do you have any statistics to prove this? Or is this opinion of your purely anecdotal? In my opinion the demographic group you described, is indeed not religious, but also generally have higher-inhibition and also have higher standards, so although casual sex can happen …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 06:24 AM
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A situationship is when one side knows that they want to be in a relationship, but the other is unsure, or doesn't want to. Evidently, if one side is unsure about the relationships because they want to make sure sexual compatibility first, then it's a situationship. Or do you just mean the situationship is the ~2 week period between having sex the first time and asking them out? Usually people go out together before having sex, expect maybe if they already know and frequently see each other. Sti…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 05:36 AM
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It is unreasonable for men to get upset though. There is nothing wrong with someone who doesn't want to have casual sex rejecting an opportunity to have casual sex, regardless of what would happen otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 07:12 PM
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Okay, but then isn't the answer obvious? If she doesn't want to have sex outside of a relationship, and he doesn't want to be in a relationship without ensuring sexual compatibility first, then these two people are fundamentally incompatible. There is no point in them continuing to see each other for a relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 06:54 PM
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I don't know how many times has Lilith posted about this topic, but the point I'm still stuck on is: Why would anyone have casual sex when they already mutually know that they want to be in a relationship with each other? ("casual" as in outside of a committed relationship) Obviously one of the common answers is because one side wants to ensure sexual compatibility prior to commitment. That's fine. There is nothing wrong with that, but that's not actually two people wanting to be in a relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 06:42 PM
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Hm. Always having good options > Having a lot of options you don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 08:56 AM
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LOL. So the "honest good dudes" are the guys who won't leave you because they don't have any other options? 😂 Women don't need enemies.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 08:54 AM
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but women don't filter super well. Instead most women actually filter to choose the sex seekers, deceivers, pumpers and dumpers because women find those men more exciting. There is no difference between how pumpers and dumpers and relationship seeking men behave so, how would women find either more exciting than the other? They basically behave on the exact same way, do the exact same things, ask for the exact same things and have the same rationalization about it. Most women will never get pump…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 08:45 AM
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Minimal trauma but daddy issues? Must be sad for these men that the women they want just doesn't exists. 🥺
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 08:17 AM
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unless you didn't see each other very often, which itself might mean you didn't click well enough to carve out the time for regular dates. You have a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 11:27 PM
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Sure. And maybe there's a good reason why she slept with Billy in one week, while it took over a month to be comfortable sleeping with Bob. I mean... the difference between 1 week and 1 month is like 14 days/ 2 weeks. Is that a big difference? To be fair, it could be in some cases, but if we were to assume that she seen both Billy and Bob once/week, the real difference is like a few hours... aside from the obvious of just being more attracted to Billy I don't understand why would anyone go on a …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 10:30 PM
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You have some good points here, but I really doubt that there are more women now in commitments than in the 90's I'm unsure whether this is the case or not, but I'm sure there is less women wanting to be in committed relationships then in the 90's. I also think that women are less likely to settle with someone less then perfect now then compared to in the 90's.. Way too many single moms in our time, for it to be true. And marriage is still the highest form of commitment. Actually, gen alpha has …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 10:19 PM
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I don't know what does this have to do with conservativism. But sure, I see what you mean. I don't think that it's reasonable to expect someone to have sex with everyone they date within the exact same timeframe, but some level of consistency makes sense if the wish is there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 09:56 PM
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You: "I want to be in a relationship with you." Them: Okay, me too. You: "No, wait, I don't want to be in a relationship with you until we have sex first." Them: "What?" <- The alleged "nagging"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 09:30 PM
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So my solution is to lie about wanting a long term relationship and pump and dump the women. You meant to say, you do get into a relationship with them, then you shortly dump them after they do have sex with you, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 09:16 PM
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So women not believing you until you follow up on something that you said you want to do is nagging? I think being curious of why someone's intentions are not following up their statements is quite valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 09:10 PM
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How do you explain the general lack of commitment that women receive? I don't see it happening. The vast majority of women are in committed relationships. In fact women are slightly more likely to be married then men due to more men remarrying then women. The ones who aren't are usually because they don't want to be, or don't find anyone whom they like enough to want to be in one. declining marriage rates. Less people want to get married is the main reason. Some people don't find someone that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 09:00 PM
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I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 08:20 PM
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I see. Yeah, that makes sense. Thank you for answering.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 08:18 PM
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I see. So even if you would really like them and find them compatible on every other area, you would still stop seeing them, if they wouldn't have sex with you outside of an established relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 08:17 PM
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Men and women are different. I don't think that men and women are that different on this aspect. The average man and woman have sexual partners before they settle, a similar number in fact, which implies that men and women accept partners with a similar amount of sexual past.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 08:15 PM
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How do you know that they wouldn't have sex with you within a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 08:07 PM
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So women aren't allowed to want their men to be angelic? I think I will continue to prefer angelic men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 08:06 PM
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Do you think that men who seek sex first don't respect themselves and don't love their bodies?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 07:54 PM
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It's more like what "few dates" means varies between people quite a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 07:41 PM
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I understand. But so, this would mean that if there is a person you really like, and they tell you that they don't have sex outside of an established relationship then you would stop seeing them? I mean, there is no judgement in me asking this, because if sexual compatibility is really important for you then it's understandable. I'm just curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 07:39 PM
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No. Things like FWBs exist. The real difference is exclusivity, because if you have an FWB, you're allowed to have other friends, and you're allowed to have sex with other people. So the real difference is exclusivity (even if it's a polyamorous relationship because it still involves exclusivity between the number of participants.)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 07:10 PM
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If you already know that you want to be in a relationship with someone and they also communicated that they would like to be in a relationship with you then why aren't you in a relationship with each other? Are you opposed to the idea of the first sex taking place within an already established relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 07:03 PM
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This post is very clearly criticizing women in this sub who rationalize making a long-term prospect wait when other dudes didn't have to I haven't seen women saying any of this in this sub. It doesn't make any sense either because the a long-term prospect would be someone who wants to be in a long term relationship with you, so you can't really end up having casual sex with your long-term prospect, because you would logically establish a relationship with them if you are both mutually interested…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 12:04 PM
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How did you decide that you want to be exclusive with these people after only two dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 11:32 PM
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I agree. They are weirdly unable to understand this. If we have different a approach to intimacy, and different pacing when it comes to getting to know someone, and different libidos, then the supposed relationship wouldn't have worked out anyway. So it's nice that we have realised that in time, and we could both go date people who are more sexually compatible with us.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 11:22 PM
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Not everyone is able to have sex with people they known for a short amount of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 10:03 PM
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A woman not attracted to men B-Z doesn't have any business with them though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:42 PM
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Khhmm... So... THE POINT OF THE POST : Did the "special guy" ask for a hook up?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:06 PM
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a woman can't be used for sex since she agreed to have intercourse A woman who agrees to have casual sex, or initiates casual sex is obviously not being used for sex. Sex is literally what she wanted/agreed to. For someone to be used for sex they either have had to been raped. Which I think is very obvious, and to be fair not what we are talking about here, or be assured into a fake relationship, that the other party leaves shortly after sexual intercourse. But even this last one is bit murky, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:47 PM
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Not really, as I said, It happened naturally. You start making out and one thing lead to another. Physical initiation is the same as asking for casual sex, it's just the non verbal from. The type of sex being had is still casual, a hook up, because it's not happening in the context of a committed LTR. We happen to have sex on first date. So you both agreed to have casual, non-committal sex without any false pretence of commitment. This is how this reads to me unless you are leaving something out…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:28 PM
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Yes, this is becoming more clear for me. I think this is a psychological coping mechanism they developed to deal with not every women they sleep with being mutually interested in a relationship with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:12 PM
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you can totally have sex early in a relationship Having sex early in a relationship is having sex in a committed LTR, it has nothing to do with hookups. It might be cultural but I never asked for an hook up, not a single time, and I did hook up a lot. That's only possible if people approached you for casual sex, evidently then you never had to ask for it. it become an hook up retroactively if (at least) one of the person involved doesn't want to continue. Nah this is interesting. Continue what?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:56 PM
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Why is it always about desirability? Do you think that having casual sex with someone you just met at party, barely remember the name of and without any one else knowing where you are and with whom, is the same as having casual sex with someone whom you had known for years and is infiltrated in the same social-circles as you? I think one is evidently safer than the other, full safety is obviously never a given.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:47 PM
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Then you won't drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:17 PM
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I think you guys should keep this topic going in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:07 PM
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Why would anyone settle with someone they find unattractive? But regardless, the question here is not about a woman who had hook ups with others, refusing a hook up offer, but this woman not automatically having a hook up with someone who is seeking her out for a relationship. Explain the logic behind the later, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:06 PM
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The truth of the matter, that you kept ignoring throughout this nonsensical wall of text, is that non of the men who fucked Lilly Philips approached her on the premise of an LTR. Which is the topic at hand. The situational reality is that you have to ask someone for a hook up in order to have sex with them prior to a relationship. Asking for a hook up doesn't imply interest in commitment therefore, evidently no one who agrees to casual sex wants a relationship with you in exchange for it. That's…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:53 PM
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Non of these are complaints about sex though, these are all complaints about access to sex. Besides, so what if you get pushback on you complaints about sex, it's an activity that fundamentally involves two people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:29 PM
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I understand that you are saying that these men would want relationships later, this could indeed be the case, I will give you that. But if they want hook up before commitment, then they are going to have to initiate for a hook up first, which implies no commitment. Saying that you want relationship and commitment from someone is quite antithetical of ending up with a hook up. Which is extremely logical, and is very weird to witness so many men regardless of pill color push back on this idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:35 PM
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I see. I know that hook ups, and the non-committal nature of casual sex is not for everyone, that's why I have a problem with ideologies like the red pill promoting it towards young men as a symbol of success or as a vetting technique for attraction, while not properly developing the psychological groundwork of someone who is able to firmly distinction flings and serious relationships, or nurture the ability to let others live and go.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:25 PM
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Because men suspiciously end up arriving to the same point on this topic no matter how far from each other did they start, and that should be looked at closer. Besides using a hook up to determine if a person is into you doesn't preclude you from wanting a long term relationship. I wouldn't know, by the time I'm comfortable having a hook up with someone I would also likely know whether I would ever see myself in a relationship with them. But I mean I assume that if you're trying to use hook ups …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:10 PM
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So you are mad about her being right? There is nothing wrong with discussing a topic with predeveloped opinions, infact that's how all discussion works.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:42 PM
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But men who just want sex early in pursuit of relationship So they could just do hook ups and then later ask the hook up partners if they are interested in a relationship or not? Simple. No? Or if I don't get then could you explain better what this means? authentically attracted Not everyone is able to have sex with people early into knowing them regardless of how attracted they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:40 PM
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No. This is an interesting topic and I think this sub should discuss this more because it's heavily related to dating and what people say about this vs what they claim they want from dating, is very revealing, especially when it comes to male users here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:22 PM
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Because sleeping with people is also what looking for a relationship looks like I think this is where the disconnect is. While I don't disagree that previous hook up partners can later turn to each other romantically, I could never imagine someone looking for long term relationship via initiating or engaging in casual sex. If someone claims that they are interested in having a relationship with me, and I would happen to be mutually interested, then we would have sex inside the already committed …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:16 PM
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Hm. I see. But I assume you do all of this out of the love towards your family, and you would never expect payment or compensations that you could freely make independent decisions over, for it. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:24 AM
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Interesting. And how would you rate the labor intensiveness of the service you provide for your shared households?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:11 AM
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... It's not about the size, it's about the technique you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:06 AM
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Oh, I guess they wouldn't allow you massage his feet at his work place. Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:05 AM
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And when he has a hard day in work do you go help him as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:59 AM
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I see. I don't know. As someone who doesn't date getting bothered in my home with text messages from the mandatory dating app would be beyond dystopian.. Imagine having to write back someone there, like "No, I don't care that you have a 12 inch dick, can you just let me play CoD in peace?"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:37 AM
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The options part in itself is true. Unfortunately though, I just think that the rest isn't what's actually happening in reality. Ugly and fat people tend to cheat at the same rate that conventionally attractive people do, regardless of the number of options they have. And attractiveness in itself doesn't tell anything about a person's character either. A lot of demonisation of attractive people is part of a type of just world fallacy where people try make themselves feel better by painting good …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:27 AM
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Sorry. You are a user here whom I usually associate with more normal takes. But "mandatory online dating". What? I mean don't get me wrong, I know how annoying getting approached by strangers for your appearance can get, especially if it happens very often and a lot of them are rude. Trust me I know. It's even insulting sometimes. I know it can get bad. But I wouldn't take MANDATORY online dating over that...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:17 AM
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I don't understand, didn't you write that dating a highly conventionally attractive man has knock on effects compared to dating a fat man? I might have misunderstood what you wanted to write.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:03 AM
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It's the same knock on effect that comes with dating a highly conventionally attractive woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 11:57 PM
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If a woman tells me she is attracted to fat men, she can be, I'm not going to convince her otherwise. Her taste is rare though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:18 PM
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It acts like duck, it quacks like a duck...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:11 PM
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Males being unsuccessful doesn't mean that they are not sluts or aren't acting like they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 08:58 PM
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I don't see the connection between preferring short term flings and not being able to meet some questionable standards. But if there are women who are "obtainable", then doesn't that prove that there are a lot of women with relatively low standards? What's the problem with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 08:12 PM
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I reject men for having high body counts and I'm a woman. I can't speak for other woman though, that's why I only speak for myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 08:07 PM
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If she enjoys casual sex then I don't see any problem with this. Good looking people will always have more options in dating, so if she wants more of them to want to commit to her, then she has to improve her finances and status.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 08:05 PM
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Well, men still have the options to avoid women with weird standards like this, or to meet these standards somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 07:57 PM
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I don't know what league I am in. The men I'm attracted to come to me by themselves, so I'm don't have to aim for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 07:47 PM
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So you would date someone you are not attracted to just because you think he is in your league? What ever rocks your boat I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 07:39 PM
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Non-fat men who aren't whores are basically an extinct species. Refer to your closest redpiller.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 07:38 PM
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they are leaders, strong willed, confident, intelligent, and most of all….calm in the face of danger. So obnoxious, bossy and unreasonable. Yeah, throw them on the list of men to avoid, next to the assholes and the criminals. You can keep them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 07:32 PM
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Finding an attractive, non-fat and not completely used up man is hard, he also has to be around her age. What would be the point of getting commitment from an uggo? Be serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 07:04 PM
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And what are conservatives doing to "bring back the patriarchy"?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 06:21 PM
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This, but even then I would never encourage her to lower her standards or value different things. If she is unable to make peace with herself then I don't want to be the reason she starts dating some idiot or someone who is not a match for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 06:20 PM
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I'm not abusing any of you. Males are getting abused at will.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 05:57 PM
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For stating some facts? His comment is completely based on emotion. But I guess mine offends you more, male behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 05:43 PM
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You're living in a society that is entirely built, maintained, advanced, and defended by men, enjoying comforts created by men without providing any value in return, only leeching off men's labor. Men aren't able to build or maintain anything. They are only good for worshipping Chads dick and getting cucked by him. Any women did more for society than any men you could think of. Men are inherently useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:54 PM
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If you already know that you are a second class citizen then why are you so surprised by the idea of your rights being on the table? Could you name something pro-men that the current administration did for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:49 PM
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What has 99.99% of women's history been like? What women's? Women history was never alike, just like how Chad's history and the average male's history is not alike. Why did every guy have a young, sexually pure wife during the patriarchy? Young? Because the males gotten married young themselves mostly. Sexually pure? How would you prove that they were? I would sooner bet on most of them getting married while already pregnant. It's hilarious when women make up these scary stories to convince men …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:46 PM
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Conservative society is the oxymoron. If you are a men from the US it's not women's rights being taken away that I would be the most worried about right now... Women's right suffered more under the Biden presidency so far. Have you ever thought about your rights as men? And what they have seemed to be in the beginning of last year, and what they seem to be now? Don't shoot the messenger.-
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:31 PM
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No, that's what oligarchy is. So we agree. Men only ever structure societies so that the worst possible people always end up having power over them. It's clear you have never read about revolutions throughout history, but I shouldn't be surprised. Most feminists only post on this sub to play contrarian to the facts that red pill men post. Lol. What? You think revolutions are won by sexually unsuccessful losers? Honey, those are the guys who die in them. You know what? Maybe you are just not yet …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:02 PM
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Maybe don't build your sandcastle in the same spot again and again if your bored of it getting washed into the ocean. Obviously any and every societal uprising by men is going to end up with Chad winning, because all men are completely and utterly beholden to everything what Chad is and what he represents, so all structure that any men will ever build will end up with Chad in the top, closely followed by his women. In doubt? Take a cold hard look at history, men's universal voting right is a new…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:44 PM
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Both Tag PR and Johnny Depp or any one else who hired them will get theirs, don't worry. The days are numbered.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:30 PM
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Have you read r/Barely-moral's comment? Or OP's post?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:23 PM
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Thank you for your answers. Yeah, all of this makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:18 PM
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Have you read the comment under which you replied to someone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:45 PM
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Yeah. Not a lot of people would know how does a conversation about exact time of sex in pervious relationships go, because this is not something people tend to have conversations about.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:39 PM
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Do you understand that a lot of people are uncomfortable to have sex with someone they just recently have gotten to know? If you would end up on a date with someone like this would you think that they are lying about their attraction towards you, or would you treat it as a general incompatibility on the topic of intimacy? If it's the former, then would you try to figure out when this person had sex within their previous relationships by asking from them and let's say, their friends? I'm just ask…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:36 PM
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When most men find out a woman is likely to have had a promiscuous past they will often hit it and ghost or hit it and date casually only. But we are discussing a situation where the man is trying to find out more about her sexual history because she is refusing casual sex prior to commitment. So he isn't exactly hitting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:25 PM
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Telling someone: "Oh, yes I had a girlfriend before." and telling someone: "I had a girlfriend whom I had sex with, 4 years and 6 months, 8 days and 10 hours into knowing." Is a little bit different, don't you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:20 PM
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Relationships involve sex But OP isn't talking about sex in relationships, OP is talking about sex outside of relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:12 PM
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I don't want a hookup, though. I want a romantic relationship with a woman who has demonstrated through her actions that she is a fan of sex and finds me physically desirable. But what would be that action if not a hook up? Or an ONS, or whatever slang you would like to use for sex outside of a committed relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:11 PM
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The usage of the word hookup isn't really the point here. The real question that we are trying to get an answer for here is how would sex outside of a relationship happen, if neither party initiates for it, or informs the other that, that is what they are looking for? This a question regardless of later on a relationship forming between the parties or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:08 PM
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But how would you even know that potential partner who also considers you such decided to delay sex with you or not, prior to asking her for a hookup though? Like how would having sex outside of relationship come into the picture without someone prompting the idea of just a hookup first?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 08:56 PM
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Well, first and foremost, isn't it possible that people who have sex very early into knowing someone just have a lower inhibition in general? Regardless of what they claim they are looking for in their dates. It's hard to debate this, because you claim that your view on this topic is based on your anecdotal experiences with women, and well, those are anecdotal, my anecdotal experience is also the exact opposite of yours, but that's also anecdotal. In my opinion there is an easy solution to this …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:09 PM
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Hm. I don't know. I would describe myself as someone who thinks of casual and committed sexual relationships as completely different things, however, fuck buddies changing their mind about each other, or about having a relationship can happen. That's not impossible. I do think it's somewhat rare, but it's a thing. However people who start out with looking for committed relationship with each other, rarely ever end up having casual sex, cause why would they? It doesn't really make sense in my min…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 11:20 PM
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This my go to response to the male loneliness epidemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:07 PM
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What makes it worse to me is that they are bitching about not getting hookups while they aren't even asking for hookups outright, usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:01 PM
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Why? Someone being interested in dating you and you believing them and only having sex with them in a relationship, doesn't mean that you didn't have ONSs and FWBs before. It just mean that those people wanted something different with you. Someone wanting to date you and being exclusively relationship minded is not the same thing. Nor are they prerequisites of each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:40 PM
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Have you ever considered that one of the person was clear and forward about not wanting anything committed, while the other both said so, and acted as if he specifically was trying to pursue a long term relationship? I think if someone claims they want a relationship with someone, but pursue sex prior to establishing that relationship, that is more of a questionable act, than someone not having sex with a person who claims they want a relationship with them. If someone starts with saying they wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 05:22 PM
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Abortion doesn't change that heterosexual sex leads to parenthood. It changes the outcome of the pregnancy, similarly to miscarriage. This is why no such a thing as 'financial abortion' can ever exist. Someone abandoning their parental duty and having a legal paper about it doesn't terminate the pregnancy, in which the fetus can be still delivered. I think what you are missing is that parents taking care of their already born children is the moral principle, not parents having to deliver childre…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 08:59 AM
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Plenty of, if not most fully adult men who are sexually successful are low status. This isn't related to age. Sexual access depends a lot more on your lifestyle and whom you surrender yourself with. Being low class often grants a lot more access to people who are low-inhibition.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 08:40 AM
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No. Most men who call women who have casual sex slurs and men who seek out casual sex are the same men. I would argue that this mindset describes most men in general (regardless of actual ability to have casual sex), this is part of why so many men have an unhealthy relationship with sex and sexuality, and have mental health issues related to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 08:30 AM
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I think plenty if not most sexually successful men are low status and I'm a woman. Are you sure that it's not men who think that any sexually successful men is automatically higher status then them? Even when that's clearly not the case
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 08:15 AM
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I don't think that men's lives worth any less then women's lives, or that they are more sacrificable. Neither do I think that heroicness is gendered trait. If someone truly finds some kind of enjoyment in paying for others then fine, I guess, but they have to deal with not everyone accepting and appreciating these advances. If they end up spending money on someone like that then they have no one to blame but themselves, because no one asked them to spend that money on anyone. However, most of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:19 PM
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Who set this expectation? — And why are men so happy to comply with it? Are all men happy about this expectation? — What if I don't expect men to pay for anything, would that offend them?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 02:21 PM
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I'm sure it has to do something with misogyny... but I actually think that the nice guy/bad boy debate is more about the inherent misandry that comes with the red pill. First of, they are judging another males personality extremely negatively beyond the law, and what is even worse is that they assume some kind of relative moral innocence on the part of the women who date them. I'm saying beyond the law because if the red pill has to put specificity on something then they are already in an uphill…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 10:52 AM
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And who is physically forcing men to spend money on dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 09:03 AM
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Why would what men want matter to anyone? lol. Women have kids whenever they want to throughout their fertility, unlike men who need to find someone else to bake the baby for them. How would being a high achiever stop any women from settling down? You think successful women, out of all people, have a hard time finding mates at any point of their life? And 30 is when most women have their first child. You need a reality check. It's men who struggle due to being old hags.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:13 PM
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If all virgin men would be made fun of and avoided, then how are there any non virgin men? You dumbass.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 11:01 AM
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Most women doesn't want used up hag.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:43 AM
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No. Ew.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 02:53 AM
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If she is able to do all of this why wouldn't she choose a partner who is also an achiever and is also able to do almost all of this to share the work with?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:50 AM
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This works exactly the same with men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:46 AM
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Well yes, you are correct. Men are more likely to accept and participate in hierarchical thinking, so obviously they are more likely to assign value to people based on these factors. However men tend try to aim for a partner that has a lower, although by not much, but lower standing on the pyramid then them, so they are going to be insufferable and bitchy about this under your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:44 AM
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I'm not saying that people can't know that they are in situationship, I'm saying that those people aren't being deceived, they know that they are having hook-ups outside of relationship, regardless of wanting one or not. They are willingly having non-committal casual sex under no false pretenses, regardless of what they hope for and how does that make sense to them. But you wrote: and ended quickly after 1 or 2 sexual encounters as soon as they realized he wasn't committing] / etc People who kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 03:46 AM
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I'm not American and I'm not talking about America, and I'm not talking about "extensive programs and benefits that give you significant financial incentives to have kids". I'm not talking about these things. I wrote in my pervious comment that these programs mean nothing for stay at home parents who loose working years, resume, retirement and ability to support themselves with their own income. A tax break or a benefit can't help this. I'm talking about the trad-wife to food stamp pipeline. But…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:25 AM
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situationship with hope of future commitment as opposed to a present promise of commitment My problem with this, just like it it was in my first comment is that you instigate that something like this existing makes sense, but doesn't, or not the way you put. There are no such a thing as people having sex for future commitment, there are people who are under the assumption that they are in an established romantic relationship, meanwhile their partner is waiting to leave after x number of sexual e…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:16 AM
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'large social safety nets' have nothing to do with what I wrote. A stay at home parent of 10 years with four kids to take care of can't do anything with a few months of job-searcher's benefits. They have nothing. Being a stay at home parent is considered to be a gap in your resume, it doesn't count in your working years so you won't have retirement and it entirely makes you dependent on your spouses income, even with 'large social safety nets' in place. Nothing of what I wrote was ever implement…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:21 PM
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So are stay at home parents and the work they do valuable? Because maybe, if there would be a way to not to become dependent on your partners income if you become a full time stay at home mom/dad, then there would be more people willing to have more children. Maybe if we believe that kids are valuable and necessary for societies continuation, then we should also believe that the parental care that they need is also valuable. Maybe a society that believes in endless growth but also believes that …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:10 PM
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And who decides what's an established romantic relationship (so group 1) in your original study and what's a situationship? What if the participants disagree whether they are in a situationship or an established relationship? Do you really think that people who hook up with someone once or twice during a holiday are in a situationship with said person? Is what you wrote about group 2 really sound like a situationship? If people know that they are in a situationship then why would they be surpris…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:48 PM
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only hooked up 5 times or less on special occasions (vacation, random happenstance, bachelorette party, situationship [ended quickly after 1 or 2 sexual encounters as soon as they realized he wasn't committing] / etc) This already doesn't make any sense here cause why would anyone hook up with someone who says that they would be in a relationship with them? Why not just establish the relationship (if no one is lying) at that point, and become part of group 1? What you wrote implies that at least…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 07:14 AM
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I mean... yeah? Sort of? Like why would you drag someone into a relationship if they clearly only want to have sex with you? It's just that the solution isn't to have sex with them, but to broke of all connection and stop wasting your own and everyone else's time. If you are someone who is comfortable with having sex with someone, outside of relationship with them then consensual casual sex is always an option, and it has nothing to do with committed relationships. INFACT that's whole point of c…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 05:10 AM
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So if you admit that the majority of men suck and have red flags that women get warned about, and you also think that women should stop pretending it's all well and good... Then do you think that women only suppose to date a select few men or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:15 PM
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Less than stellar at a minimum Oh you have such a low opinion on most men? I would never have guessed that about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:01 PM
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I don't think that the majority of non-single women are in abusive relationships. Do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:42 AM
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A lot is wrong with it. There are a lot of more important professions. But even if we ignore this, being a clown is the bigger problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:40 AM
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So you agree? Because you didn't refute anything I wrote in my comment. Obviously an attractive person gets away with being an asshole, because the people who want to date assholes will primarily seek them out over bad looking assholes. This makes sense. However they will never out compete a kind person who is attractive. I hope we agree on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:37 AM
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Looks are obviously going to be the first line of selection in any relationships that involves sexuality. Nothing will ever come first, if two people like each other, but they aren't attracted to each others looks then they are called friends. However there are absolutely more attractive and less attractive traits after that, usually based on what the majority likes. (I guess there is a few people who live in some kind of asexual romantic arrangement.) Do you believe that the the majority of men…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:08 AM
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Because all women aren't attracted to the same things, and all women don't have to, and will never prioritize the same things. This is the key. It's this simple. Evidently, tons of women, I would argue most, or the overwhelming majority of women dates someone, who is not a murderer, a rapist, a sex trafficker or a streaming-clown. Obviously a person who dates a serial killer and person who dates a normal citizen aren't morally similar. Why would you assume that they are? Why would their dating c…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 10:16 AM
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I'm sort of a progressive woman myself. I didn't read all of the post though, I'm happy for you/ I'm sorry that happened with you..., ect. Three points: I don't know any women who wouldn't date bisexual men, but if I would I would call them out on being biphobic, and on their progressivism lacking if they would claim to be such. All bi men I know are stereotypically masculine and a lot of them date women. I have met with men before who wouldn't date bisexual women. Also men saying that they woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 08:04 AM
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Obviously the abortion he wants a saint, same with conservative women. Crazy people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 10:42 PM
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Not all conservatives are anti-gay, anti-lgbt. Or maybe those conservatives are not as conservative as the conservatives that are anti-lgbtq? Regardless, what I want to hint at is that there are multiply scenarios and occasions throughout a relationship where ideological differences could come out. The ones I mentioned are just examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:41 PM
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I'm afraid I have to let you know that there places outside of Budapest in Hungary, which is a liberal city to begin with, and so are there places in Sweden and Norway outside of Stockholm and Malmo.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:36 PM
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Federal politics and geopolitical policy aren't the only things that people refer to as politics. What if the liberal wants to move to a big city and the conservative is afraid of crime in big cities? What if the liberal wants go to Pride together as allies and the conservatives doesn't want to? What if the liberal doesn't want to have children and the conservative believes everyone must have children? What if the liberal mom wants to go back to work 2 weeks after giving birth but the conservati…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:31 PM
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And what would be the point of that? Don't you think that at one point the ideological differences would come out at an important decision or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:16 PM
3

There are a lot of immigrants in both Poland and Hungary, in fact hungary has a whole entire visa program for foreign low wage workers, and there are a lot of part of both countries where it's not safe to walk at night regardless of your gender. (which actually unrelated to the migration)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:52 PM
1

So you admit that not all women are attracted to same exact, limited number of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 03:56 PM
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If there are enough women around attracted to these traits and are dating men with these traits, then why is there a need to call women liars if they claim to have a different type? Why does every TRP blog on the internet start with outlining AWALT? Also do you seriously believe that most men who happen to be in a relationship or had any other type of success with women are not nice, or can't be described as such? If they are then how can niceness be out-ruled? Also do you think that all women w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 03:53 PM
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Why does fee advice have to tell people that all women, worldwide are only attracted to 2 and half men in order to get them to work out? (which they still won't)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 03:07 PM
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Wait. What programs are there that help single, childless women? As a single, childless women I'm already at loss when it comes to what would I need help in. I don't have to take care of anyone else but myself. Same with single, childless men. Why would anyone have to help us? If you feel like you can't take care of yourself then you are free to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 03:01 PM
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If married women are happy why are they most likely to be prescribed benzodiazepines?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 02:44 PM
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Why are you obsessed with the mongol empire dude? It hasn't even lasted a century. On a wired way it makes sense that someone like you would be more interested in a society that is unstable and unsustainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 02:38 PM
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Alright buddy, then I will be waiting for the glorious incel revolution of the men of /askmen. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 02:12 PM
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People are more likely to align with those who speak about things that actually coincide with their own lived experiences. Maybe we should strive for people pulling their heads out of their butts and actually think for themselves instead of being scammed by identity propaganda? Blue pillers focus to much on just world ideas like how if you're a good person you should find someone eventually Do you also call out religions, like christianity for infatuating ideas like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 02:05 PM
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Yeah. Undoing rights. Like undoing males bodily autonomy to not to die in wars. I'm sure you will all be winning so hard. Have you ever thought about the social media pages you visit being weirdly echoey of your own opinions? If yes, then why do you think that is? I'm just asking. I don't remember the time when I haven't seen misogyny on the internet out of all places.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 02:01 PM
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“Food deserts” are extreme, left-wing propaganda, and nothing more. Having walking distance excess to fresh food is extreme left-wing propaganda? You know what? So be it. Keep paying for taxies for your primary needs, after all, your turf-island is prosperous you will soon need to pay for health care too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 01:45 PM
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Said the 250 Kilogram US citizen before he put his fat ass in his child killer truck, to travel 50 kilometers to his closest Walmart.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 01:30 PM
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because you aren't portrayed by fefminist media like a monster who only knows violence. Hm... Depends. women attack redpill not because it has anything to say about women, because women are afraid if loser men acquired lot of money, wealth, fame they can make the "whoman are wonderful effect" hegemony bleed.... Loser men already have a lot of money, most of the time they didn't even had to acquire it. You getting dangerously close to the source of our actual problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 01:25 PM
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...I guess there are some hospitals where people are getting more sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 01:19 PM
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Suicide isn't the primary cause of death for any gender, anywhere. So maybe start living in reality with the rest us? Almost like women are bombarded non-stop with positive statements on women, while men are literally the opposite. I never heard any positive statements about women and I never heard any negative statements about men specifically because of their gender. Maybe you are too emotional to correctly process things and deal with them the way they are... But you are men, so it's not surp…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 01:15 PM
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I know that you would never deny chad but not everything is about you. Society is fine, it sends it's regards. Just because your life sucks doesn't mean society is crumbling. What objective metrics did you look at prior to coming to this conclusion btw.? If you don't mind me asking. There are some places where there are things that are getting worse. Non of which is because of feminism. Quite the contrary, actually. Also what does not believing in the feminist movement mean? It exists regardless…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 01:10 PM
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I'm reading your echo chamber here. So, technically yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 01:02 PM
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Yeah, it's normal people being ideological, not you and your silly cult.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 01:01 PM
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Red Pill spaces provide an outlet for misogyny, to consume red pill media content that is misogynistic, of course. The idea is that in these spaces, under this flag, the permission for misogyny is provided and furthered by the rhetoric, and yes Islam as well, organised religions work the same way. Do you know how many ex-muslim tell about misogyny they've experienced in the religion? You should compare an ex-muslim's and and an ex-redpiller's statements to each other someday. Would give you whip…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 10:40 PM
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I don't know if all men are evil or not. I actually assume that some men are not evil, and I also assume that the men who are evil aren't necessary evil because they are men. Many women assume some men are not evil to the point that they literally marry and have children with them. TRP has told me multiply time that I'm bad because of my gender. Specifically bad and unquestionably because of my gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 09:56 PM
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Sometimes they did, I have heard about men who have had gf's before falling into the red pill. I would say often times they fall into it very young and get 'programmed' before they were able to have one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 09:50 PM
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But how would anyone know whether or not he is a bad guy or not? No one sees into his head but himself. Under the current law we are all thought to be innocent until proven guilty, that refers to him as well. I have multiply innate characteristics that make many people think that I'm the earthly equivalent of Satan. Like I'm a woman, I'm gay, I'm hungarian. But in the end of the day I look in the mirror and tell myself I haven't done anything against those people. or I wasn't caught yet. In the …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 09:45 PM
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Hearing positive things about men doesn't change that all men can potentially be dangerous and there isn't always any immediately visible differentiator between men who are dangerous and men who aren't. That's like thinking that watching state propaganda will make the inflation go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 09:21 PM
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I think the pendulum have been and will keep on swinging into the direction of people who take pride in their achievements over their innate characteristics, and I'm saying this with all the needed knowledge that innate characteristics can be a hindrance in many things. It's still the achievement that is celebrated despite the hindrances.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 08:24 PM
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Why do men need to feel good about being men? I feel neutral about being a woman and I don't want to feel any other way about it. If someone would try to aggressively make me feel good about being a woman I would assume they want to sell me something I don't need. It's stupid to feel good about a trait that you are born with. I guess there is gender euphoria but even that won't really hit if you are born cis.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 07:47 PM
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Wouldn't be the only thing you are wrong about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 06:28 PM
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Men are emotional and get worked up easily. Especially red pill men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 05:46 PM
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zero mention of AF/BB No men ever told you before that he wants to fuck around and do casual sex then marry a virgin girl when he is 38? Curious. I have heard about this before.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 05:30 PM
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The good ideas that the redpill appropriates were already popular. I would argue since the redpill became more popular they usage even declined. There is everything wrong with the redpill if it provides an outlet for misogyny, it will keep producing bad outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 05:10 PM
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Yes queen, go off.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 04:48 PM
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Males are more prone to violence. Misogynistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 04:05 PM
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No. Working out and taking care of their appearance is what gives men everyone a better time in dating. So the normie stuff. What do you have to say to Blackpillers, hm? You think Stacy would ever choose an average looking redpiller over Chad? I don't think so, but really pick it up with the Blackpillers not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 03:47 PM
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Any youtube content that is scientifically correct is Blue pill youtube content and every youtube content that is scientifically incorrect is red pill youtube content. If Red pill content creator makes a scientifically correct statement, broken clock, they are just repacking blue pill content with a misogynistic flare. It's quite easy to navigate really.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 03:42 PM
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It's literally redpillers saying that usually new redpillers go trough a period of redpill rage, I agree with them on that. When I agree with them they are usually mad, well actually they are mad all the time... which tells you enough, I hope. I'm great at hitting spots. You don't have to undo any idea that was correct in the first place. I didn’t bother with the rest. Sure, you didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 03:38 PM
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I never said that TRP doesn't work. It does, you are indoctrinated after all. We just disagree how it works, or what it's working means.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 03:30 PM
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No. It's just that my analogies are correct and yours are not. But you are a redpiller so that isn't too surprising, after all you still have to take your truth pills with misogyny flavour.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 03:28 PM
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Yeah, after loosing years to the redpill then having to go on ex-redpill therapy to deprogram. But wouldn't it be nice if a lot more men would be able to skip all that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 03:25 PM
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there’s no fairy tale. I love this one. After all, It makes complete sense to resent you parents the rest of your life for telling you about the tooth-fairy. /s So if what TRP is actually mad about is people who preach stuff like 'There is somebody out there for everyone' and other nonsense, then why are redpillers constantly attacking groups that already don't preach stuff like this? Why are the redpillers attacking feminists? Why are the redpillers attacking the 4B movement? Why are the redpil…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 03:22 PM
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The veggies are good videos are the blue pill content. Because they are correct and normal and the blue pill never meant anything else than being a normie. If you want the red pill content you might have to search for raw eggs and un-pastured milk.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 03:02 PM
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Misogyny isn't more congruent with the real world, misogyny is just yet another ideology that distorts truth and drives people away from the scientific method, and encourages people to attack others in their communities based on nothing but their identity, therefore further alienating them and so to close the circle, making them more vulnerable to the ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 03:00 PM
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure there is no content on youtube that tells you that veggies are healthy low calorie food, health class doesn't tell you this either. You have to crawl over the gates of woke civilization and go to wetube to hear it from the liver-king himself. (Or maybe not from him because he passed away from roids or something.) Get a grip dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 02:44 PM
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Misogyny resonating with lil' Steve is the problem. lil' Steve believing that all athletic men must be assholes is also the problem. That's the misandry of the red pill though, which is the best part. Also lil' Steve's PE teacher in his fifties can't exactly be described as athletic anymore, but he has a wife, and the fat guys in walmart also have wives, so lil' Steve knows that this isn't actually true. But it's not women, or who they date that actually matters, it's being allowed to be misogyn…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 02:29 PM
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Yes. This, fully. But I there is another layer though. Like, let's say the PE teacher in school tells lil' Steve he should work out and eat healthy to stay health and feel better about himself. But lil' Steve is lazy and lives in a food-desert with limited workout opportunities, on top of all of these, his PE teacher is just some guy in his 50ies with a wife his age and a low paying teaching job. However when the podcasts bro with pay-hired models says the same thing and also tells lil' Steve th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 02:17 PM
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In my girlfriend's opinion, any guy gaming me wouldn't be too believable, but yes, since the existence of ardtsg? facebook groups, we know that men out there trying to cheat aren't exactly good looking. Fat, ugly, bald suits them well as descriptors. But to give you your 5 cents, the guys who end up in these groups aren't gaming anyone, they ended up there because their date suspected that they might be partnered, or their partner suspected that they might be cheating, logically.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 01:16 PM
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It is about poverty and rich countries with social welfare have poverty. Social welfare programs imply the existence of poverty, and it also doesn't eliminates it's existence. The US is one of the richest country on earth, it has tremendous amount of poverty, even compared to other nations with less to work with. Single parent families are vastly and unignorably from lower socio-economical communities, where crime and habits related to it are already rampant, including not getting married, and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 01:03 PM
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No. Women aren't dating the same limited number of men. The tea app and the dating the same guys groups further confirmed that women aren't dating the same limited number of guys, and that they don't want to even when the chance presents itself. (Hence the existence of the apps and the groups.) What these apps confirmed further more is that there is always a large set of men on the dating market who are looking around to cheat even if unsuccessful, and that the men who are trying to cheat don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 12:40 PM
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This would make sense if the question would have been how many women like muscular guys? Or are there enough women out there who likes muscular guys to be likely to meet one? I think there are lot and I think you are likely to meet one, btw. But saying that the women who say they don't like muscular guys are lying is a totally different game, especially since it's not unlikely that you already know enough women who prefer muscular guys already.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 12:30 PM
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What I don't understand is what's the end game here? That if a woman tells you she is not attracted to a given man you could pretend to be justified in calling her a liar? What exactly would be the purpose of that? You can call us liars we still won't be attracted to your blown up hag men. Or is this the way you are trying to cope with realizing that women are actually not all attracted to the same men, so no matter what way you are, or try get yourself to be. there always be women who won't be …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 12:55 AM
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Of course not. Most criminals come from a poor economical background, from communities where absent fatherhood is less prosecuted and socially taxed and where often one, if not both parents might have criminal record as well. Middle class and upper men also leave their kids, they are just more often caught on the hook for child support, which they can actually pay, or maybe even some level of community/enforced involvement, you know "babysitting". Why is that, that like 15(?) years ago? Everyone…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 05:14 PM
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Yeah, the Mongol Empire has collapsed. It's obvious why, you already explained it. Yes, Japan, Korea and Germany are doing well for themselves and compared to many other countries metrics, they have been for a while though. Obviously sometimes right-wingers get into power and they tend to destroy stuff so being able to better and upgrade things doesn't always happen, but these countries will be fine for like the next 100 years or so, Afgahnistan however... Well maybe it will exist, under some ty…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 02:36 AM
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I swear I haven't looked at their post history until now... Holly shit, I bear-trapped this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 01:11 AM
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You never know.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 12:58 AM
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No? Well ok, sorry then. My bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 12:55 AM
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It's shocking to me seeing just how many women think the majority of men are rapists or would rape a woman. Directly from the posts first sentence. It actually contains the word rape twice, because the root of the word 'rapists' has rape as it's root. I'm just telling you 'cause, you are...-nevermind. I'm just having fun while having interesting conversations with you dumb bitches. That's not even allowed anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 12:54 AM
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'No Pill' Flair checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 12:44 AM
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Post was about rape, poster is a man, that's just the way men are you know. Sorry that you are illiterate, if you are from the US I don't blame you. You should talk with a women someday, a lot of them are teachers so one might teach you how to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 12:43 AM
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No, I'm not like you, but thank you for admitting that. Makes sense that a misogynist like you would also be a racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 12:16 AM
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I haven't done any of that. Anyway, our guy haven't denied my assumption yet. Where is the 'men can rape because they are not dogs' guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 12:14 AM
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You said my logic belongs in a museum, that's an insult, so I could report you as well. I guess you outsourced yours to AI.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:57 PM
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There is no conclusion, it's an assumption, that's why I asked if that's what he thinks. He hasn't denied it yet, we have to make a note about that though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:55 PM
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This is idiotic and you're stupid, because a domesticated literally just means that the dog is able to live with humans without harming them, usually this just takes the dog growing up with humans around and getting fed (vital need) by them. Almost all, if not all rapists grow up in human society, nurtured by human society, often by women, they look, talk and walk exactly like all other men and yet they still rape. Anyway, OP haven't made any differentiation between rapist men and non-rapist men…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:52 PM
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So we have a situation where a dog demonstrates that it can leave a treat alone when asked. Then he be like: 'Well, that’s because it’s a dog, not a human. Why would you treat any person like a pet?' So based on this I assume this person thinks men can't not rape people, because they are not dogs, or pets. I assume this person thinks that men can't control their urges like pets can, therefore they should rape people. They haven't denied it yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:39 PM
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I'm not debating I'm just curious whether or not he thinks men should rape people because they are not dogs. Because based on his comment that's my assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:34 PM
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How would I know what he thinks? If I would know, why would I ask him?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:30 PM
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So you think men should rape people because they are not dogs?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:29 PM
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I believe by y'all they mean something like 'men of this sub'. I can't exactly fault them for that, but you're also unflaired, so they've might swung at someone whom they didn't want to fight with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:13 PM
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I have to say that english is not my first language, but I believe situationship is a term describing a relationship where one side wants a committed (so exclusive) , romantic relationship and the other wants a non-committal fling. A relationship with neither side wanting commitment would be an fbw or just fuckbuddy, or something like that. To be fair, I don't fully agree with OP, but I believe this is why they bring up exclusivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:07 PM
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Sorry, despite mostly agree with you I have to say that I see a small issue with your rhetoric. Absolutely no one who only wants to have sex inside of a relationships should ever have sex outside of a relationship. That we agree on. But not everyone has to want to have committed relationship in order to have sex, regardless of gender. Many people are just not very relationship oriented, including many women, and I feel like that's something you forget to calculate into this. Again, I do believe …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 10:57 PM
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You are your own individual person, but all men who ever went on a date with a women are high status bad boys? You get to say that you're own individual person who absolutely never paid for anyone's OF, but a woman can't say that they've never dated a 'high status bad boy', and they wouldn't? Curious. Well, in the end of the day we all get to choose what we believe, that's the nice part.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 10:36 PM
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Maybe frenchman are not conservative enough to be fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 06:57 PM
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Non patriarch groups always lose out to patriarch groups in wealth and resources. Expect since we started to record history. Right? I could ask you to name all countries that is doing better, economically and resource wise than Afganistan, but no one has time for that answer. So I'm asking which countries are doing worse? The Congo? Well I'm not sure that Congo is the ultimate feminist paradise, followed closely second by Afganistan... Although I have to agree that if all children you give birth…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 04:44 PM
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Well, I hope you don't think that this is universal statement. The US might actually be one of the only places where the average men had political power since it's foundation and they also never lost it before. Keep in mind that the US is a relatively young country. (Un)Surprisingly your average Johnny having a say in everyone's life is not the natural course of things. A more universal statement would be, men have never lost rights before specifically because they are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 04:34 PM
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I don't know, if someone would bring me a contract to sign which would allow them to leech of off me, because they don't have access to their own resources anymore, I wouldn't exactly be enthusiastic to sing it. But to be fair I'm a kind person, so I would at least tell them that me signing that contract wouldn't actually grant them access to my resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 02:44 PM
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Is it just me, or these two statements aren't even in opposition with each other? Dislikes being approached romantically without familiarity. Dislikes when someone trying to build familiarity with pre-existing romantic intent. Not only do these not cross out each other but, these two things make more sense together then separately. It seems like what these people have a problem with is romantic intent built on nothing but physical attraction. Makes sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 11:52 PM
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I get that you think that having to meet someone again if they can prove that they paid a bill for you isn't a big thing, but not all players are nice and there are definitely people who would try to coerce more dates out in a cultural environment that believes what you said. Personally I think the best bet is to avoid dating at places where you have to pay for anything, because if you think about it, the facility has a financial incentive to keep the dates going just like the men. On the other …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:30 PM
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if you want to see the guy again, then whatever. let him pay. This would create an environment where men would try to end up paying in the end of the date by lying, deception or various tricks, so that the women stays indebted to them even if she tried to go dutch. I have a friend who worked in popular date spot and they had to introduce policies against behaviours like 'debt card ninja', 'costumer wanting to pay ahead for two people', 'accepting any paying methods before bill is presented to bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 06:45 PM
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I'm trying to ask, why would a military state be selective on who's rights to enforce based on gender? Why would they uphold the rights of non-military men?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 09:47 AM
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What's the point of not enforcing, only women's rights, specifically? Why wouldn't the same men also go on to take advantage of weaker men by following the same line of logic?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 11:48 PM
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Power? Resources? Control?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 10:28 PM
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Why are the men (mostly) who are enforcing rights enforcing other men's rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 08:54 PM
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We have individualism to thank for that :) Maybe? Maybe no? I don't think this is so simple though, because what the majority of a community wants, isn't necessary what's best for the community or what ensures it's survival. You can't always just trust in any bigger groups hive mind and believe you will always have a good outcome. Also many times society values (or even rewards) attributes that result in more antisocial (or individualistic) behaviour. Just think about CEO's or venture capitalist…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 06:17 PM
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Well theoretically capitalism supposed to ensure that what the individual wants to become is something valuable to society by putting a value in capital, a "wage" behind it, but yeah, I wouldn't say that this is working as intended. What's more important is that we don't shared values as a society though, and on most thing we don't have middle ground either.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 05:23 PM
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? No. Father gains automatic custody if the mother legally abandons the child, of course she has financial obligations. Same with post-natal surrender, if the father shows up for the child he gets automatic custody and the mother gets financial obligations. A child can only go into the adaption process if both parents legally abandon them and both of them greenlight that they can be adopted, or the period that they have to change their minds runs out. This is why so many otherwise adaptable chil…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 03:17 PM
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I don't think that today's sex culture is more toxic than any sex cultures we had before. Among the examples you mentioned porn addiction is the only one that is uniquely more widespread now than it was ever before, but that's inherently tied to the internet and technology, and how we use it. Also, it's only as toxic as any other type of content addiction. I don't think that putting individualism and collectivism up against each other is a smart idea either. The individual has to contribute to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 12:08 AM
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Why would women select sex partners based on anything else than physical attraction? Also how does the notion that men sleep with anything eliminate the moral wrong of sleeping with an inmate? I'm not replying the rest of you all dumb, lying fools.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 03:58 PM
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You're trying to imply that male police officers don't have sex with female inmates?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 12:19 PM
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Normal people tend to have confidence in realities and not in their made up delusions, but obviously OP is red pill man so that in itself, has implications.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 10:33 AM
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But the first half of this statement is impossible without the other half. The majority of men are in relationships. If the rate at which women pick the non-bed ones is indeed 0, then the majority of men, and on top of that all men in a relationship have to be bad, or the statement is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 08:01 AM
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I imagine the red pill has a very hard time coping with this. Cause not only does it goes against their 'female nature' pseudo-since nonsense, but it also questions their 'enjoy the decline' type of hallucination.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 01:06 PM
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I also feel annoyed by the "they used me" type of people, because most of the time they are the type who think that casual sex somehow leads to attachment, and I relentlessly and strictly believe that casual sex and attachment shouldn't be mixed. So I would prefer the people who want relationships to have sex in relationships and stop mudding the water. It's not hard. Both sides claims that they interested in relationship with each other? Then have commitment talks and be in a relationship and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 11:55 AM
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I'm impartial in this topic because there is actually, several reasons I sort of always kept straight romance books at an arms length. You actually managed to name some of them. However I think your post requires quite a bit more nuance. For reference I mostly base my opinion on popular trends on romance.io and it's sorting options. Consensual non-consent (or just full on r*pe fetish): This is not common in simple romance books, but do admit that yes, it's common fetish in the erotica subgenre, …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 11:56 AM
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No I haven't compared anything to explicit monster fucking, cause no one talked about explicit monster fucking in this thread, we were talking about romance books. The average romance book in particular, which is less sexual then the average harem light novel in comparison. It's interesting that you are offended that I point out that most harem light novels are sexualised, regardless of age ratings, yet you try to portray romance novels with the book you linked. Meanwhile most romance novels doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 03:54 AM
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But what's your problem with something containing smut or porn in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 12:47 AM
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Okay, upon conducting a search quick through MyAnmieList, it looks like that most harems are also Ecchi, which implies heavily sexualised but not necessary pornographic in content. Harems rated for children and teens are outliers though, so you are deliberately trying to misrepresent my argument. It wasn't that there are no harem content at all without porn, it was that majority has porn. Yeah, I was wrong about that, however it is mostly still sexualised and not for younger audiences. I still d…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 12:45 AM
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How many harem mangas are there that aren't hentai? Also, what is the problem with something having explicitly extreme pornographic scenes?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 04:12 PM
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Are you serious? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 04:04 PM
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I think the problem starts when they bring up Twilight and 50Shades, as examples of modern romance literature. 50Shades is Erotica which is like a small subgenre of romance and Twilight is Young Adult literature. This is the equivalent of taking fantasy as a genre and saying that the best representation is Harry Potter and some grim-dark porn fic that blow up. That being said, as someone who grew up with queer literature, I also have some problems with general trends with straight romance books …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 03:06 PM
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These or all just random anecdotes that serve no real evidence for this batshit insane theory. Also, why are you already trying to single out an age group? This was about women, in general. All men who loose their virginity loose it by having sex. Therefore there are women who don't have any problem having sex with virgin men, in fact, statistically they have to be the majority. This is literally evident, like you guys are arguing against material reality at this point. I mean, unless you want t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 07:46 PM
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In the end of the day, I don't need to know any of this to get a hot virgin men under me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 09:37 PM
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So from the men have to be virgin to get sex delusion we arrived to men have to lie to get sex delusion. Ok. I take this as a win.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 03:59 PM
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Women want men who other women want, even in church. No, usually not. Because he has the most power therefore he can coerce and get away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 03:57 PM
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I don't think we are talking about the same thing right now. I referred to the original topic of OP. I do know that there is a lot of premarital sex in churches.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 05:42 AM
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But he is a virgin though, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 05:33 AM
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Even in a church, the men who are the most wanted are those who have slept with many women Maybe because they actually happen to be the most attractive, therefore the women don't care about that? This doesn't prove that women would decline men they are attracted to for being virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 05:31 AM
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Where I live most babies are born into marriages, which both parties agree to while knowing that their partner wants children and how many... More men want children than women, but in most cases both sides wants them, because people consider this while choosing a partner. So basically no one convinces any one of anything... I don't think a mother who wanted her own children is baby trapped, even if her husband leaves, like... she wanted them. Is she failed by him? Yes. But baby trapped? No. Henc…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 04:11 AM
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They use it as a moral litmus test. Well, that's extremely stupid, I hope we can at least, agree on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:18 AM
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As of right now, most people who have children wanted them, men or women. So bringing up baby trapping is a little off topic. I don't think if you planed and agreed to have children with someone, or even ask for children from someone, then you were baby trapped, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:06 AM
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When did I say I have a problem? I meant it like, I don't see why you think this leads to the rejection of virgin men. Sure. And plenty of women state that they won't date a virgin man, especially as he gets older. And that falls into the second one. I don't really see this happening. At max I see how women who look for quick casual sex and have a lot of options would forgo bothering with a virgin, but women who look for long-term partners don't really have a problem with virgin men. I would act…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:00 AM
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So do you think that chads are born as non-virgins? I'm just asking, since your theory needs reality to be slightly compromised in order to work. Btw., I never rejected any men for being a virgin, and why would I choose your anecdotal experience over mine? I would choose my anecdotal experience over yours any day, everyday, forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 12:46 AM
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I have never seen a woman say they wanted a virgin. Visit a church, lol. But yes more secular societies tend to focus on virginity less. Most people tend to loose it during adolescence with their adolescent partner, and because both of them tend to understandably be virgins they don't really say it. Most non-virgins don't really look for virgin partners, cause it's extremely unreasonable and weird. I fail to see why do you have problem with this. Not wishing for a virgin partner and refusing som…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 12:37 AM
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Because men opt out of raising the children they agreed to have. Sometimes they just don't go home one day, sometimes they ask for a divorce first, sometimes they stay with the family in body but withdraw from shared labour and responsibilities, sometimes this results in the mother eventually divorcing them. In my opinion the problem starts when a lot more men want children than women, but have no idea what fatherhood entails, and about how to raise children, and how much work and sacrifice it c…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 11:51 PM
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I don't know if this adds anything to the discussion but for example I don't like going out on dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 07:35 PM
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But what do RP do when a men like this gets rejected? Or in general has relationships problems? Implode? That's what confuses me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 06:44 PM
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So, would you ever partner up with someone who values something in you that you don't, and on top of that, is fleeting? Is that a good and health partnership? Or like, if you view it as an end to a mean, does it worth it? I know that this something that could easily be answered by "this is something that women have to decide for themselves". Evidently, but my question is, what would be your choice be upon presented this perspective?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 05:30 PM
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I mean this with no intention of fully disregard your point, but I don't think that this happens a lot. If two people expresses interest with being in relationships with each other, they usually end up first having sex within that relationship. Yes, there are cases where hook up partners end up together long-term, but in those relationships neither side were ever dishonest with their intentions, it's just that they shifted their relationship goals at the same time and they already liked each oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 08:06 PM
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Attraction? Or long term dating? No I don't think that women need all the points you laid out for just mere physical attraction. I also think that men vet their long-term dating options for almost all the points laid out, if for nothing else, because they have to. This is not about shallowness and depth, this is about knowing what you want/need in a partner, personally I think attraction isn't the only thing you need for a relationship to work . . . You know, because I'm not shallow, unlike peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 10:11 AM
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His entire premise is flawed because not all relationships have leaders and followers and leader-follower type relationships doesn't imply submission/domination. He just assumes hierarchy when he doesn't understand how something works. Common mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 01:24 AM
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You literally just gave an example where the crew submits to the captain. No. The crew reports for orders, the captain has to come up with a plan and verbalize the tasks. They have a common goal and they share different tasks. You think you answering to someone is you dominating them? That's weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 12:53 AM
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Why do you assume that the captain doesn't want the ship to sink? I'm just asking since your scenario implies that you are very willing to believe that the crew would want the ship to sink. If neither wants the ship to sink then what I wrote applies. The captain has to come up with a plan and verbalize the tasks for their crew. The crew has to carry out the tasks. The well working system with two parts. Both answer to each other so there is no submission/domination. Btw. in my opinion you believ…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 12:36 AM
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Do the followers submit to the leader? I actually don't think so. Having a particular goal in mind and understanding that you get there by someone elses leadership (based on something substantial) is a pretty active thing to do. The relationship between the leader and the follower is more of a well working system with two active parts, then something that has to do with submission or domination. Submission would be someone foregoing their own goals in order to work for someone elses.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 12:15 AM
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I also like how the term gradually looses it's meaning as they try to use it to justify their worldview. Like originally pump and dump meant breaking up with your girlfriend after you had sex with her. Now it means having a ONS and not ending up in a relationship with them, because surely everyone wants to be in a relationship with their casuals. What's next? If you breath in 10 mile radius of someone who is allegedly a chad then you were pumped and duped. Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 10:56 PM
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unprotected sex and getting pregnant = irresponsible behavior of 2 adults I agree with this. That being said it's important to point out that a lot of children are abandoned by fathers they agreed to have sex for. The sex itself doesn't have to be irresponsible in order to create single mothers. Your point about this stands though. choosing to not abort while knowing the man does not want to be a father = irresponsible behavior of her. No. You can have your own child, regardless of what the othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 01:46 PM
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I have no problem with irresponsible people loosing custody, they should, but I don't see how this relates to the topic of sexual responsibility and abortion when it comes to the woman, especially if she is a single mother. She is already taking on the responsibility which she accepted when she agreed to have sex. The parent who steps up is the responsible one, the parent who doesn't is the irresponsible one. Obviously logic dictates that the irresponsible parent should be held accountable via c…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 01:15 PM
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No. If an adult person who fully knows how reproduction works has sex, then they agreed to take on the risk that it might result in the possibility that their child will be born out of it. However abortion is about the termination of the pregnancy. Abortion is the termination of the condition we call pregnancy and the child not being born is just a side effect of the termination of said condition. Evidently plenty of women who choose to have children and wanted to carry out their pregnancies has…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 12:15 PM
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Your overall message is not wrong, but I think it's more about self inflicted singledom, than self inflicted loneliness. Not to say that people, in general, aren't lonelier now days, they are, but that has reasons unrelated to dating. The loneliness thing, is just part of the pseudo-victimhood narrative which is used to neg people into unwanted relationships, or "giving a chance", or just to make them feel bad for rejecting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 12:02 AM
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You don't understand. The entire redpill grift is built on that they only focus on an extremely small number of women, with very specific characteristics, meanwhile they pretend that they speak about all women, and yet they fail to even acknowledge the average women. Most women not using OLD breaks the narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 05:46 PM
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Maybe that could start with red pillers not calling the women who date men they deem undesirable liars, and a men beta buxers. I think that would be an important step to to kick of this movement, especially since average women dating average men make up the majority of all couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 09:52 PM
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We're living in that, it's not a hypothetical. What do you mean by this? If peoples rights are being threatened then they obviously going to fight. You think people today would have rights if their predecessors haven't had fought for them? Cause the people who are taking your rights away have multiple militias. Could they fend off the federal army? No? Then come back when they can. Similarly women having militias doesn't do a lot if it can't fend of the army. That's why states at civil war usual…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 06:33 PM
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it would escalate Interesting. Very interesting. You think taking away harmful and morally corrupt peoples rights to vote would lead to an escalation. But somehow threatening to take away womens rights wouldn't. Tells more about you then you think. You are still going to have to tell us what you think is unacceptable when it comes to young womens behavior btw. Non of the things you mentioned in your post is even remotely harmful or unsympathetic. Just one last question if you don't mind, if you …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 03:09 PM
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Dude, if you think that your way of approaching women is violating their boundaries, then maybe you indeed shouldn't. I don't know, somehow I approached countless people without violating their boundaries or creeping them out. Nor did I ever witness someone going out of their way to insult or disrespect someone and it leading to a relationships. Maybe you live in very toxic culture? Or do you just think that any attempt of chatting up someone is inherently boundary crossing? I don't know if I ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 02:50 PM
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On what ways are girls treating their male peers so bad that it substitutes for the taking away their voting rights and voice? Are young girls out there mass murdering and raping men? Someone forgot to call me. How about taking away the voting rights and voice of the right wingers who constantly advocate for others to be removed based on traits they were born with and can't change about themselves? If you are really so concerned about them. Wouldn't that solve the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 02:32 PM
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You think the majority of the men who are in relationships right now don't respect their partners boundaries?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 02:23 PM
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But you are not stopping the right wing backlash by ensuring what right wingers want happens. You are facilitating it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 01:06 PM
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what women are attracted to in men Oh, remind us what that is again. And why is it dangerous?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 12:37 PM
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No, I completely don't see how male podcasters or whoever you are talking about police women, hurt women or are "dangerous" as you mention. You mean they incite violence against women? First foremost the manosphere's common talking point it that they don't. Second of all "party girls" aren't disproportionately targeted by male violence, normal everyday women, wives, mothers, virgins are just as targeted as women who go to parties. It's less common to be raped in a club, then to be raped in your …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 12:32 PM
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But Roe v Wade was sent back to the states though... under Biden mind you. (2022) On a way you are right that abortion rights are women's rights because only female humans can be in an opportunity to exercise them, but, first of all, it's a right only women who are pregnant, or will be can exercise, so this already doesn't affect a lot of women who won't have children or decided to not have children upon the overturning RvW. Second of all, abortion rights were hurt in states that voted for them …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 01:19 PM
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It's so sad that they aren't able to realise that clothing can be pretty and aesthetically pleasing without being attracted to the wearer. I guess this is another privileged insight that we have for ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 06:49 PM
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Have you ever thought about that maybe less coverage doesn't necessary negate comfortability? Like a string shoulder tank top might show a little bit of cleavage but it's not an uncomfortable thing to wear, especially in hot weather. Similarly, short skirts with biking shorts, or skorts are literally the most comfortable clothing to wear in the warmer month for me. They give the same free mobility that a biking short give but they give you that extra bit of coverage if you want to sit down somew…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 06:35 PM
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Do you have any proof of this being widespread? And besides, what does this have to do with hookups if you, yourself are saying that these women think that they are in a committed relationship. From their perspective they are not having a hookup, they are being cheated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:59 PM
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But this is crucial for your point to even exist, because if the majority of people aren't participating in hookup culture then being a "hookup material" essentially doesn't mean anything. Like who says this? Isn't the redpill supposed to be something that helps men with the average women ,"ALL WOMEN", "awalt". If not all people are the same then how does that work?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:38 PM
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But we just established that most people aren't having casual sexual relations in liberal areas either.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:22 PM
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40% is a minority but I digress, there is indeed a lot of room between someone having hookups and wanting an ltr. Why do a lot of redpillers talk about women who don't have extensive hookup histories as some type of scarcity then?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:14 PM
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Do you have any statistics that proves that the majority of people are having non-committal sexual relations of any kind? Be it anything, ONS, sexual situationships or fbws. Or are you one of those people who consider people having long-term relationships that end in breakups to be hookups? I want to see you sit in front of a bar/club owner of the last 10 years and tell them that the majority of millennials and genz are party goers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 03:54 PM
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I guess to me the disconnect on one hand is that I don't really understand how not wanting to date someone is a punishment, especially if you dislike something enate to them. I mean in the end of the day I don't really think that being in a relationship with a person who you think committed something very bad would be a good thing to either partner. And on the other hand, I also don't understand why redpill sluts want non-slut women to date them. I mean based on the conservative word view you ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 07:07 PM
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Why would anyone want a relationships with a sluts like redpill men though? That was the entire point of Approptiate-Chest-16's comment. That they are sluts with with slut mindset themselves, therefore based on their own advice they ain't gatekeepers of relationships either, since women should avoid to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 06:53 PM
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Dude...are you really this dumb? You have 100 pair of married couples, 40 of them are getting divorced, 15 of them has college educated women. Out of the 40 divorce couples 30 has the women initiate it. Out of the 15 college educated female couples, 12 has the women initiating it. You literally have two different pools of data, these totally different numbers. Go back to school.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 03:58 AM
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You know, dispite most of your comment consensting of ansine bs, there is actually a little bit of a hidden truth in what you wrote. As a white upper middle class women who doesn't want children I'm opposed to conservativism because it's holds back important progress and it accelerates human suffering. But at the same time, I kind of do akonwledge that I'm very far removed from any of that actually happening to me. I mean, sure, inflation and climate change, but those do effect the 1% as well. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 05:33 PM
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Maybe bi men tend to have higher bodycounts in the first place? Not to generalise, but my personal anecdote is that a a bi men either partnered and has been for a long time, or they have very high bodycounts. I don't know, nor care whether that bodycount is made up from women or men but I wouldn't date a women with those numbers either, it's just not my preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 10:23 AM
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Hm...but then why do we see a difference between cultures?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 05:41 PM
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But then why can men vote? Many men are outright admitting that their (incorrectly) perceived victimhood influenced their voting habits. Many people indeed think that individuals who are incapable of thinking logically about their own interests and participate in oppression Olympics instead, shouldn't vote. The majority of those individuals are evidently and self admittedly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 03:16 PM
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Yeah, casual sex is any sex not in a marriage, including sex in long time committed relationships and engagement. Hookup is usually used to describe something out a committed relationship. Like a ONS or a situationship, maybe an fbw.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 12:01 AM
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The whole reason behind why the Ted Bundy case is famous, is that no one who knew him described him as a bad person, let alone on obvious asshole. Men who knew Ted described him as "trustable", "friendly" watch the Larry Anderson interview. The Ted Bundy case not only doesn't prove that women are attracted to obvious assholes, it's the antithesis.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 02:54 PM
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This is the sound you make when you are triggered by a fact?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:17 PM
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The overwhelming majority of women only had sex in relationships that lasted months up to years, or after engagement. Same with men. This makes sense if you look at median life time sexual partners for both genders. But I mean, if you look at it form a point of "investment" then obviously definitions are more malleable. Like what is an investment to you? Is it just money, or is it also time and commitment?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 06:39 PM
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Most women never had a hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 06:25 PM
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Why would anyone care about someone's political believes during a hookup?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 12:28 AM
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Well so far, my anecdotal observation > Yours. And I'm still standing on most women gravitating towards non-abusive men regardless of political affiliation or location. I do think that there is a lot of men who beat women whom you like. They could be some of your friends, maybe some acquaintance you like to talk to, or some of your co-workers. You certainly think that they are nice without the knowledge about their deeds, isn't that weird? Anyway, I'm still waiting for your source on liberal wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 12:17 AM
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Because there are people in society who want committed relationships and there are people a who prefer casual/low attachment relationships, there always were and there always will be. This is not the problem, the problem is that people don't communicate their intentions/preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 09:02 PM
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is that women who choose toxic men are more likely to be abused than women who choose nice guys. This is circular logic and you also failed to understand that I called out the generalisation (because you are illiterate). It's circular logic because obviously people who choose to date abusers date abusers, duh. Your claim is that liberal women in cities tend to be in abusive relationships, I doubt this, because it's your claim the burden of proof is on you. I don't believe that there is a statist…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 01:59 PM
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the man should have the right to absolve himself of all parental responsibility within the same time frame. He already has and beyond the time frame of the pregnancy, just like the mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 04:56 PM
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I'm not going to lie as a woman I also don't understand this. My best guess is that the she was very open about wanting a committed relationship from the start, this relationship has formed after a while, and they had the commitment talks, the monogamy, everything, this went on for a few weeks/months and after sexual intercourse happened he immediately disappeared, but like without a breakup or reason. I genuinely don't think that this is common though. Especially since I think the people who ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 04:33 PM
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I mean, I'm not saying you aren't right at all, but to me OP sounds like he either doesn't understands the expressions he uses, or purposefully misinterprets them. Like "spinning plates" doesn't mean you have multiple committed, monogamous relationship at the same time, it means pursuing multiple potential mates simultaneously. There is nothing wrong with that and it's also not a modern phenomenon. Nothing he mentioned is. Basically you are right about the "we live in a society” style cynicism. …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 02:03 PM
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unhinged genocidal rants against men not only were not removed, but actively rewarded and engaged in good faith by the mods. Nothing like this ever happened. You are just overreacting and too sensitive. Why would any place be molded after your privileged modern day sensibilities? You can't take a joke? Why would any place specifically coddle you? I bet they were just discussing how to morally advance our civilisation, you just didn't understand it because you can only think emotionally and not l…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 03:39 PM
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So technically, your final conclusion, based on your anecdotal observation, is that the more men someone has met the more likely it is that they were assaulted. You know what? I agree. (But this was actually OP's point.)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 12:06 PM
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This is the vast majority So the vast majority of women are abused and cheated on in their romantic relationships, in cities? Bold claim. Are you a radfem? I live in a capital city and I'm a young woman with young women friends. Do you have any data to support the claim that women who live in urban environments are more likely to be abused in their relationships? Police reports? Domestic abuse is more common on the countryside btw. But even that number is going down. I don't know about cheating,…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 07:51 PM
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Most men who were ever in a relationship are not cheaters or abusers, and most women who take part in casual sex know that they are taking part in casual sex. This doesn't mean that most men are good relationship material to most women. Is your only standards towards the women you date is that they don't cheat on you or abuse you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 11:37 AM
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At this point you are arguing yourself into in even smaller corner then you did without a definition. The majority of women aren't dating CEO's nor petty criminals. Most women are dating men similar to themselves from both a financial and both a moral standpoint. So what we arrived to again, is that you are trying to take an insignificant to small minority of the population and you try to project your view on them on all women. While also actively trying to avoid discussing how the women who dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 11:18 AM
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And what about the vast majority of women who never had an experience like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 09:21 AM
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Is anyone here familiar with the concept of just asking what type of relationship does the other person want before even meeting up or going on a date?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 02:43 PM
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consent to parenthood or parental surrender So far no one was able to prove me that this does not exist already. Conservatives have been talking about nothing, but new mothers being able to surrender their newborns at fire stations, for the last 3 years or so. If new mothers are able to do this, why wouldn't new fathers be? I think the truth is that you are purposefully unwilling to acknowledge the difference between someone surrendering their child to the state, as opposed to leaving it with th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:03 PM
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Which will never happen because what women generally respond to sexually is not what they virtue signal. And this is yet to be proven. Because the straight men with the highest body counts aren't the tallest, most good looking or the richest ones. Do you know whom the straight men with the highest body counts tend to be? The men who sleep with their fellow high body count women. This also explains the high body count of high body count women. And angelbb1 wasn't talking about hookups and one nig…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 07:02 PM
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How would you know that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 05:25 PM
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No women wants a washed up hag who was run through in high school, but if you make enough you can attract gold diggers or at least have money for prostitutes (if it's legal where you live).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 06:13 PM
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From the perspective of the man it's a win because he never had any intention of marriage but still got what he wanted. Why do you assume the woman didn't got what she wanted from the relationship? What if she never wanted to get married?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 07:13 PM
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I agree. We can start by ceasing shaming tactics and societal or political pressure on people who decided that children and relationships are not for them. The rest of the people who want children and want to raise them and want to help them into adulthood and self reliance, already have an emotionally intelligent reason to do so. Simply wanting it is just adequate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 11:37 AM
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No, I don't think that people having relationships and children because they want to meet a milestone or because it's expected of them is good for them or for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 11:23 AM
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I don't think that I'm going to move from my position which is that only people who want to partner up should partner up and only people who want to have children should have them. Radical, I know, but hey.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 11:15 AM
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So non of this is actually about the person and their happiness and what they want to make of their life, but all of this just about how can a person be useful to someone who shares your (harmful) ideology and (misguided) idea bout how the world works, specifically this is about shaming them into compliance. Uhu. Guessed so.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 10:45 AM
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Regardless of the fact that all of this are completely baseless and illogical speculations, why do we already have to work from the point of view that not wanting to be in a relationship is a problem and liking parties and being fun is something to be avoided?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 09:39 AM
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Well as long as people conflate it with the termination of the pregnancy which can't result in the legal existence of the child while paper abortion very much can, nobody will have the right, you kinda have to understand your rights in order to exercise them. There is no way that there is no paper abortion in the US because people can give up their children to cps and sign their rights away to them so that they can go into fostercare and the adoption system. That's quite literally what paper abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 09:08 PM
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Women also have the right to paper-abort and women uniquely have the right to terminate the pregnancy while it lasts. (and if both sides agreed to have the child then neither should be allowed to paper-abort as long as the other is still raising the child.) Basically the termination of the pregnancy is a unique and completely separate type of abortion that is only available for the duration of the pregnancy and only for the pregnant half, while paper abortion is available for both sides at all t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 08:55 PM
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Both men and women should have rights to paper abortion. You should be able to paper-abort a child that you never agreed to have. (if you can prove that) If both sides agreed to have it (and there is proof of that) and the other is still raising it then neither should be allowed to paper-abort. This protects both women and men who raise their kids alone. I don't know how do you want to get closer to equal rights more then this. Again no one ever paid child support to a child that was aborted, so…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 05:47 PM
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Abortion is not just the termination of the child, it's primarily the termination of the pregnancy. I think if both sides agreed to have the child (yes I know, the tricky part is how you prove that) then neither side should be able to paper-abort (so signing away rights for your child, which is an existing practise) as long as the other side is in on the deal. (and the gestation happened) Because in the end of the day everyone should be held accountable for their agreements. But if the pregnancy…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 05:13 PM
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Most fathers don't want and wouldn't take full custody. If neither parent wants the custody, the court will force a 50 50 arrangement, if neither parent is willing to take care of the child they will ask the parents to sign away their rights for the child so that it can go to an orphanage or to foster parents. Edit: btw. just to insert my opinion, the parents who don't want shared custody are already a minority, so essentially single moms and single dads are created in pairs. Most single moms al…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 05:15 PM
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I mean, the disgust only comes if someone brings him up as a possible romantic partner for me. The general reaction is indeed just: meh, hag.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 06:46 PM
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I love how every conversation with this dude arrives to this point btw. His article basically says that teenage, 12 to 16 (you know, the age most people haven't even started dating yet) year old boys that date more tend to be more misogynistic. The writer interprets this as: boys aren't necessarily became more misogynistic because they are romantically invisible to the rare girl of their generation who dates in this age. This guy interprets this as dating success corelates with misogyny, somehow…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 05:54 PM
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So your data is about an extremely limited subset of the population, especially when it comes to women. btw. yeah, then I see. I guess it makes sense that men who only have casual relationships are more likely to have misogynistic tendencies, just like how women who only have casual relationships are more likely to have m misandristic tendencies.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 03:50 PM
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Lol. So if a young man marries young he is unsuccessful in dating? K.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 03:39 PM
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But you stated there is data. You can't collect data on something, unless you are able to define what you are collecting data on. So what is 'dating success'? Statistically a mess rapist is a sexually successful man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 03:33 PM
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Sorry, but what I don't understand is the notion that anyone was lied to a played in this. If you agreed to a casual relationship or a hookup, then you agreed to it. You weren't lied to. It doesn't matter what you actually wanted once you agreed to something that doesn't entails it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 02:52 PM
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So singleness in general creates economic profit. Both you and OP could have argued this without hyper focusing on either gender and you would have had been more correct for it. btw. I still think this has a lot of different factors because most households are double income so that also doubles the workforce and singleness might drive housing/rent costs up, but not really anything else on a significant way, you forget that the more frugal spending are for the parents' stuff, but they do have to …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 09:51 PM
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The point was key categories, which included personal care items. Hence my reference to the closets, shoes, and retail therapy. But then it shows that single men spend even more.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 08:11 PM
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Am I the only one who finds it extremely weird that the person in the article you linked says that "single women outspend the average household" and that data under it shows literally that exact opposite? + also "Per a person adjusted bases" So how will let's say the average person's care product spending look like in a mix gendered household? But then again, the data in the article shows that single men also out spend that by a lot more so... Also some of the things you wrote (and weren't in yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 07:49 PM
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The vast majority of conservative men can't afford a house alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 02:55 PM
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Wait. So your claim is: 'It's in men's best interest to make themselves poorer and rich people richer.' Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 01:24 PM
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Ps the birth rate has dropped in the US. Yes which is somewhat fascinating cause there were actually 400 something unwanted pregnancies brought to term in states were abortion were banned (combinedly), but the ban deincentivized trying for a child so badly that the overall birth rate still fall. Similar thing happened in Poland before. This why people say that the only two outcomes of a faschist plan is it not happening or it backfiring. And it not happening is usually better for the faschists.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:57 PM
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How do you have stats on happiness?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:46 PM
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How would It be possible that all men know atleast one women who has been is an abusive relationship, yet the majority of women don't know any? Besides even if all men know one women who was in an abusive relationship that can still be very far from vast majority because one women can be known by multiple men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 11:47 PM
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hat one trend going around called “who did I marry episode {insert number}” and they would list something toxic and abusive about their relationship. But this being a trend doesn't confirm that the majority of relationships are toxic or abusive. People are obviously more likely to click on drama then, "hey I have this perfectly boring life with my spouse I love". Other women's lived experience is part of what the world is, but you can also judge people based on other things than just what were t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 07:07 PM
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If someone doesn't want to commit to someone then they are by definition not in a relationship. So it can't be neither toxic, nor abusive. Even if we would treat hookups and ltrs the same, I still wouldn't agree that not wanting to commit to someone is toxic or abusive. I also don't think that you have to date a person in order to come to the conclusion that they lack empathy or that they are bad partners based on their behaviour. Like if someone writes a generalizing comment on a whole demograp…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 06:34 PM
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I know this, but 'how would I prove it' is a good question. The vast majority of people have never reported being abused by their partner, but obviously abuse cases can go unreported. When it comes to already ended partnerships, abuse seems to be one of the reasons why someone would end a relationship, so we can draw the hypothesis that people tend to get out from abusive partnerships even when they from, but obviously maybe we just see an anomaly because we are just looking at already ended rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 04:02 PM
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But the vast majority of women aren't in toxic/abusive relationships. So if all the women around you are then -> OP's post.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 01:25 PM
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Women are on antidepressants, anxiety meds and dealing with mental disorders at an ever increasing rate. The rise in diagnosis and medication directly correlates with the growth of accessibility of mental health services and the accessibility of medication, as well as the awareness and willingness of individuals to visit mental healthcare providers who can diagnose them and put them on medication. And even if this wouldn't be the case, you would still need to be able to prove that the specific c…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 04:17 PM
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Independent, well to do women still have relationships with men. Just that the men are rich and successful. And these are non exclusive flings they have with rich men. And these women get passed around by the rich men. Got to be attractive though. The more you describe this, the more it sounds like it's the women having harems not he men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 07:07 PM
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Working-class women have always worked throughout history; therefore, they always had to deal with workplace stressors, just like men. A burnout from ensuring the baby stops crying is indeed not the same burnout as working late nights at a full-time job for weeks straight; in fact, it can be much worse, especially since it's a thankless, unpaid job. Fairly, in a better system, that would focus on productivity and paying people well would ensure that fewer people feel burned out from their jobs, …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 03:52 PM
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None of the things I mentioned in my comment are assumptions; they are facts. Sexual harassment and burnout aren't stressors women gained since entering the workforce; they are ever-present issues throughout history for both men and women. This is also a fact. If someone can't sleep after working too much, they are probably having some type of mental health issue; for example, insomnia can do that. Fairly, I agree that our current system is too focused on making people work more hours instead of…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 12:36 AM
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Wait. But isn't all of this data that you just linked in your previous comment completely normal, logical, and self-explanatory? Mental health awareness is more common than it ever was before. Mental health services are more available than they ever were before. Mental health issues are both more diagnosable and treatable with medication than they ever were before. And additionally we know that women are more likely to use these advantages and advancements than men and are more likely to seek ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 11:19 PM
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