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You say it’s an empathy issue, but do you think these dudes just want empathy?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 11:04 PM
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You’re literally describing apathy while trying to call it kindness. Apathy isn’t men rushing to help—it’s men finally stopping long enough for women to drag themselves forward. The irony is wild: for centuries, progress stalled under male rule, but as soon as women fought and bled for change, suddenly men were these empathetic saints who “just wanted women to be happy”? That’s not empathy. That’s a PR rewrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:55 PM
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No. Some men can take credit for action they’ve taken. But men as a whole, just stopped oppressing women. Not by moral choice mind you, they just got sick and tired of women’s bitching about it for so long. It was women’s efforts that earned us our rights, not men’s apathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:48 PM
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You’re missing the point dude. What you’re recalling as “respect”, wasn’t respect. Respect is earned through action. Taking men’s boots off the necks of women isn’t enough action to win any respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:44 PM
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Sometimes it seems women respected men more when they couldn't vote. Obedience isn’t respect. wtf?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:41 PM
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They see thread after thread about women who are sleeping with a bunch of men, getting dates every week, situationships, relationship hopping... No, they don’t see that. They see a bunch of other lonely dudes fantasizing, hypothesizing and flat out lying what women might be doing. If you actually paid attention to what most women on this sub are saying, it’s not at all that 🤦🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:40 PM
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Again you’re not listening. My choosing the bear is because I know scientifically how long I’d last being mauled, and I’ve calculated that that is a far better outcome than being raped and tortured for some man’s sadistic pleasure. You can disagree, but don’t you fucking dare call my reasoning illogical when you clearly have never thought past your own perspective here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:25 PM
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So you see the worst as losing a limb? Okay. That’s fair for you. Do you know what it’s like to live after someone’s assaulted your body in terribly sadistic ways? Edit: had to block user after multiple offensive communications.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:18 PM
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Oh sweetie I made two comments. Don’t worry, I know readings not y’all’s strong suit 😘 Edit: had to block user after multiple offensive communications off thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:17 PM
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I see you haven’t calculated human blood loss from animal attacks and how quickly you pass out from shock??
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:15 PM
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Ah yes, the classic fallacy: if it involves emotion, it must be illogical. As if fear, caution, and risk assessment aren’t rooted in survival instincts—something bears, ironically, understand better than you. The irony of trying to ‘logic’ your way through a hypothetical meant to highlight a lived emotional reality is peak internet mansplaining. Maybe next time, try debating in good faith instead of cosplaying as a TED Talk with a bruised ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:14 PM
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Sigh. These people vote. And their vote counts. Says the dude who definitely voted for Trump 🤣💀
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:12 PM
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No I’ve studied bears. We’re their food. Not their sexual curiosity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:05 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:05 PM
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It’s actually entirely logical. But you’ve never listened enough to hear about someone’s answer to this, have you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:04 PM
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No, the question is which would you rather. You’re adding random to fit your interpretation. Which is fine, just stop correcting my interpretation when both of ours are authentically what we interpret the original question to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:55 PM
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It’s not about thinking all men are dangerous — it’s about imagining the worst-case scenario. A bear is terrifying, but it’s not sadistic. Humans can be, and that potential makes the fear different. I’m choosing which type of suffering I’d rather face, not making a blanket statement about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:50 PM
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No see, from my perspective you’re the one pushing the hypothetical. Because from the very first time I heard this question, I heard it to mean “which one’s worse”.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:46 PM
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So you’re answering the question on the best case scenario. What if you were choosing between the worst?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:37 PM
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I don’t see how it’s dehumanizing men. I think that’s a buzzword y’all cling to here, but I haven’t heard a solid argument how average men are dehumanized by this. Because for one, it’s a hypothetical that two, has literally no effect on men, at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:34 PM
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Imagine the worst a bear would do to you. Now imagine the worst a man left alone with you might do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:33 PM
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Aw I love when a dude mansplains our thoughts to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:31 PM
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No, speak for yourself. I know myself and a lot of women have thought about this a lot (because this f-ing convo won’t die) and will full rationale and logic pick the bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:22 PM
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No, I really don’t think you’re listening. I think a lot of y’all are just reacting emotionally, which is valid. But then yall turn around and call us illogical here? No. Talk about ignorance ffs
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:15 PM
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These dudes aren’t going to pick the bear because most have never felt the fear and violation of sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 08:49 PM
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Advocating people to "go their own way" is leading people down a path of mental illness. Then tell me how your advice is immune to that? You’re just assuming that going their own way equates to mental illness, but that’s like a you problem you need to solve with a mental health professional. Because most people can withstand a level of autonomy without breaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 08:40 PM
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I don’t think you read their post fully. It’s not discounting social connection platonically.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 08:37 PM
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Advocating people to "go their own way" is leading people down a path of mental illness. Why are you assuming the over-connected constant culture we’re forced into isn’t already a path of mental illness?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 08:34 PM
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A world where we’re all atomised, self-optimising hyper-individuals who never have any obligations to others and live our lives purely for the pursuit of our own satisfaction? Do you not have a community? A family? Friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 08:11 PM
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How are you defining “normal”?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 08:10 PM
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That’s why I don’t feel bad when I see crime documentaries about hot guys taking these women to the cleaners. wtaf?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 07:13 PM
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a man is now alone, through no fault of its own. That’s… a take..
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 07:07 PM
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And are you recommending men change their preference if they’re angry and single?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 06:23 PM
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But in this here comment thread you’re arguing about women’s body hair and men’s sexual preferences on a societal scale. So again, why should women change for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 06:17 PM
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So why do average men look down on women who don’t shave their body hair or wear makeup to work?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 06:11 PM
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Why should women change for men Do they owe them something?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 06:04 PM
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I don’t think you understand compatibility..
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 05:56 PM
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So the ideal relationship is one where the woman lowers her standards and takes responsibility for making the relationship work, while the man just… shows up?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 05:52 PM
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Okay, but why do you say “you have complete control over” this?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 04:54 PM
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What binary?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 04:47 PM
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or they prioritize the woman's feelings every time over the potential relationship. Care to elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 04:44 PM
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And finally, the idea that sexual contact with a man 'contaminates' me is wild. Not only does it dehumanize me, it paints all men as sexually demonic. Agree with your whole comment but gotta laugh at the irony here. Yeah sex with men shouldn’t “contaminate” us, but look around how crazy dudes are about body count and it’s clearly a toxic belief that supersedes biphobia unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 04:43 PM
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No, most people are absolutely incompatible with most people. When you consider friendship, moral values, lifestyle goals, daily routines, sexual chemistry and romantic spark? Majority of oddly paired people will not work.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 04:30 PM
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the desire to look attractive. Almost everybody wants this, actually. Even children. Not to mention that at the age of 12 puberty is already started. Dude. No preteen is shaving the natural hair off their body for sexual reasons. wtf is wrong with you??
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 04:12 PM
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Maybe not all 45%, but most for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 04:11 PM
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that yes these women are not getting the relationships they want Or are they getting exactly the life they chose and desire?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 04:08 PM
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No. It’s not, because the hyperbolic statement “you have to be tall or you’re not a man” is factually incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 04:05 PM
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Girls as young as 12 want to look attractive to their peers No. We truly didn’t. We were kids, we wanted to play, to finish our homework, eat a snack. Not do advanced yoga in the shower daily with a sharp object. But we were handed a razor anyway and berated if we forgot to use it even one day 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:58 PM
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Sure some women were in careers at that point. But they didn’t have guaranteed access to credit, and non-discriminating banking services. Plenty of women couldn’t get a bank account without their husband or father’s co-sign. You see how a husband would be necessary back then? For rent.. for food.. to have a place to hold your paychecks you earn at the job you’re suddenly allowed to work at?…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:54 PM
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How? Cope means to emotionally deal with your own issues. I’m not a man, so please explain why you think this is “cope”.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:52 PM
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So your opinion on this is that girls as young as 12 should be shaving their legs to adhere to men’s sexual preferences? Because that’s how the societal pressures work currently. Up until young Gen Z/Gen Alpha, that was the given reality, no question about it. That’s what you’re supporting?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:49 PM
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Yeah no one’s objecting? .. No one gives a fuck what you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:38 PM
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You misunderstood my comment. I wasn’t talking about individual preferences—I was criticizing widespread, cultural expectations. Women have historically been pressured, even forced, to remove body hair to meet a standard of femininity defined by men. That’s not just “men having preferences,” that’s systemic conditioning. There’s a huge difference between “I like X” and “everyone should be X or they’re unattractive.”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:37 PM
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No one’s entitled to your labor, and no one’s begging for it either. Just stop pretending your disengagement is some revolutionary act when it’s really just sulking in the corner of the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:33 PM
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I actually agree with you that personal preferences, when expressed respectfully, aren’t inherently wrong or objectifying. Everyone’s allowed to have their types. But I think you might’ve misunderstood the examples I gave—I wasn’t referring to individual preferences. I was talking about societal expectations that are applied to all women, regardless of individual context. Like the widespread idea that women must remove body hair or should be quiet and passive to be considered feminine or attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:32 PM
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You have to be tall to be even considered a man. No, you literally don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:29 PM
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You’re confusing your role in society with your dating life. Women don’t owe you relationships just because you do a job or pay taxes — everyone, including single women, already does those things. You’re not holding up civilization alone. Saying you’ll “let the cities fall” because women aren’t dating you isn’t some bold stance — it’s just entitlement disguised as rebellion. If your only motivation for contributing to society was the hope of romantic reward, maybe the problem isn’t women, it’s t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:28 PM
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50 years ago this was not an issue. 50 years ago women had to marry to survive in society 🤦🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:21 PM
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Were they just “unrealistic standards” or were they closer to dehumanizing standards of objectification? The whole “women should be seen and not heard” bullshit is pretty dehumanizing. The “women’s body hair is gross and they should get rid of it to be sexy for men” is very objectifying. I think it’s one of those boundaries for yourself are healthy but restricting someone else’s choices by your personal boundaries is fucked up, kinda things.. you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:19 PM
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no 🤦🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 04:11 AM
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It’s really not. But okay dude ✌🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:01 AM
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The women that only date tall men? Yeah 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:43 AM
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Yes, quite literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:43 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:28 AM
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Can you relax, please? There is absolutely no need for any aggression. You, last comment: You're insane if you think someone is trapped within their own body type.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:26 AM
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Who the fuck said any of that was gendered dude? Also no, for women our abdominal muscles for example are internal behind a thick layer of adipose tissue. Same with our glutes, and basically surrounding the womb, because yeah we’re designed to build a fucking baby at a moments notice. So no, short of starving yourself of all excess fat stores, women are in fact limited to what muscles they can visibly gain.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:19 AM
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Those things are not shamed nearly as much You must be new here 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:16 AM
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You’re limited by genetics at a certain point. Your height, the way your body metabolizes food and carries weight. Bone structure. Technically, external resources aren’t inherently like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:15 AM
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I don’t think you can “objectify someone” for stuff they have? Even more so, you’re in somewhat control over what resources you have or don’t have. Your physique is more or less whatever you’re born with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:13 AM
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No, once again that’s misreading the data. The survey collecting said data asked for the persons sexual identity, at the time of survey, then asked about any DV that’s occurred to them in their lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 11:45 PM
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I don’t think any of that affects anyone dating towards long term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 09:02 PM
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Okay sweetie 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 07:58 PM
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No, you’re conflating personal opinion with objective fact. Stop that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 07:29 PM
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that's exactly what I was saying No it wasn’t 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 07:25 PM
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I mean that’s fair, but also at 19 there’s not much you can have control over in your life but focusing on your own success is a pretty solid start to things. You know?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 05:39 PM
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Finances, career and success aren’t dating strategies dude. They’re just life goals. Being financially stable, finding success for yourself, investing in work that drastically improves your quality of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 05:31 PM
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Do you feel particularly “socialized” when a salesman tries to push their product onto you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 05:27 PM
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For Gen Z and Millennial lesbians, sure. But the data, as far as I’ve seen, includes all generations. Including those who grew up in a time and place where being queer was unacceptable and dangerous. So no for a large portion of lesbians I think their first relationships were not with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 05:23 PM
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Calling yourself socially conscious while reducing all women to a hive mind is some peak irony 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 03:33 PM
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You spent all that text dodging your own quote and reframing tone instead of substance. If your best defense is ‘but I didn’t mean it that way,’ maybe take a moment next time to say something worth standing behind. I’m not here to assuage your ego—just to discuss data, which you seem entirely uninterested in engaging with in good faith. And for someone claiming this isn’t a ‘man vs woman’ thing, it’s worth reiterating: the data doesn’t define the abusers gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 03:27 PM
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they genuinely can’t comprehend the idea that women could hit their partners more On this comment thread we’re not arguing if women can be violent. Literally just looking at the data and clarifying what claims we can conclude from it, and what claims we can’t. To be fair, we can’t conclude that men are to blame for all of those DV cases either. Because the data in question only asked for the current identity of the person and if they had experienced DV in their lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 03:18 PM
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You’re accusing me of “grabbing things completely out of scope,” Lol I don't think I'm doing all that, let's hear it... Do you not remember writing this two comments ago? You on the other hand in the same period grabbed things completely out of the scope of the study and somehow I'm the bias one?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 03:14 PM
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No, I’m pointing out that the data reflects lifetime DV rates based on current identity—not the gender of the abuser. That cuts both ways: you can’t say women weren’t the abusers or that men were, because the data doesn’t specify either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 03:12 PM
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You’re accusing me of “grabbing things completely out of scope,” but all I’ve done is clarify the study’s actual methodology and provide relevant context. That’s just responsible analysis dude. Let’s be clear here, I never said women aren’t capable of violence. That’s your projection, not based in my opinion. The bias you’re so eager to pin on me just isn’t in anything I’ve written. You misread the data, I corrected it, and instead of engaging with that, you’re lashing out. That’s not debate—tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 03:07 PM
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It's biased to believe the vast majority of women who identify as lesbian have been in lesbian relationships? Yes, you’re completely ignoring the dangerous reality that was being a queer person even up until the 2010s. If the claims you’re making were about specifically Millennials and Gen Z, then you’d have more of a point because you’re exclusively looking at generations of women who could choose to identify as queer as early as they’d like (for the most part in western countries). But the dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 02:57 PM
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the high rate of DV in lesbian bisexual relationships falls at the feet of men No, you’re also trying to make a claim the data doesn’t support.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 02:52 PM
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No, your bias is getting in the way dude. Consider that before 2010s (approx) it was notably dangerous to be queer publicly. Because of this majority of queer people presented straight even forcing themselves into straight relationships to satisfy familial and societal pressures, and yeah even to convince themselves they were normal and straight. Consider that things like marital rape were generally accepted, or at least societally overlooked, so even if a wife didn’t want sex with her husband, …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 02:51 PM
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You’re equating platonic social interactions with constant door-to-door salesmen pitching themselves to you. The intention is remarkably different and the impact is not the same positive social benefits people need.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 02:48 PM
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But the data 100% shows that a woman will suffer more violence in a gay relationship than in a hetero one. No. It doesn’t. The data took the current identity of the person, and asked about their lifetime experience with DV. You’re incorrectly assuming that said DV happened in a lesbian relationship. Not to say that this doesn’t happen, because it does. But you’re trying to make a claim that the data does not support.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 02:41 PM
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She's more likely to be victimized by a female partner than a male one. That’s not an accurate reading of the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 02:36 PM
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No, that’s not what anyone said. Just that your takeaway isn’t based on the data—it’s your bias dressed up as a conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 02:30 PM
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So every closeted gay person who dated the opposite sex before coming out is “actually bi”? That’s not how orientation works. For most of history, being anything but straight was dangerous—people conformed to survive, not because they wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 02:16 PM
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Men often hurt women who leave them. And let’s not forget: marital rape was common and often ignored. Just because a wife didn’t want sex doesn’t mean it wasn’t forced.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 02:12 PM
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Those are their identities at the time of said survey. Not at the time the DV happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 02:10 PM
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Because most queer people don’t pop out fully aware of their sexuality? Especially from older generations, many dated men, married, had kids—trying to live the heteronormative life assigned to them. DV doesn’t vanish just because someone later comes out as gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 02:08 PM
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Your OP 🤦🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 02:02 PM
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You misread my comment. Higher lifetime DV in lesbian-identifying women doesn’t mean it all happened in lesbian relationships. Identity ≠ relationship history. Correlation ≠ causation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 02:02 PM
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You’re describing unhealed trauma. People who are hurt sometimes hurt others, that’s not a gendered issue. That’s not society “conditioning us to victimize women”—it’s what happens when cycles of abuse go unchecked. And honestly, your obsession with the word “victimization” sounds more like a personal hang-up than genuine concern. Taking abuse seriously—especially when it happens to men —isn’t coddling anyone. Maybe the issue isn’t who society is “conditioning” but who you’re willing to care abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 01:59 PM
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I must be special because I could argue against it without that Clearly, facts don’t matter to you—so of course you’re comfortable arguing without them. Who needs evidence when you’ve got vibes?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 01:55 PM
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Lesbian relationships don’t have the highest rate of DV. Women identifying as lesbians and bisexual women now have experienced DV in their lifetime at higher rates. Correlation =\= causation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 01:42 PM
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I already did?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 08:49 PM
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No it’s not. I’ve personally heard that one and countless others far too many times by dudes, and people, trying to minimize rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 08:44 PM
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well what did you expect wearing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 08:42 PM
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Be real, are you the stand up comic that’s mad no one laughed at his rape joke?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 08:30 PM
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Is this really the stand you want to take?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 07:59 PM
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Have you had a chance to look at the side-by-side numbers, or are you mainly focusing on the overall averages? It’s worth considering that many households still follow more traditional gender roles, where the man works longer hours and the woman takes on more of the responsibilities at home. In that context, it makes sense that the overall averages might be skewed. The main concern often raised by feminists isn’t necessarily about comparing domestic labor between a working spouse and a non-worki…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 07:49 PM
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Do you need me to define “quasi” for you sweetie?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 07:08 PM
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cuckoldry by definition requires A. An adulterous wife and B. The fraternal identity of the baby to be hidden from the husband. Explain to me how either of those apply here?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 07:06 PM
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Fine, quasi-cuckoldry sounds like a valid descriptor. That’s not the term they used tho, is it? The claim they made is factually false.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 07:04 PM
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No. Not at any point have I claimed my opinions to be held by anyone else. I’ve questioned it, I’ve criticized it, I’ve explained my thoughts on the topic. I’m not generalizations about other people, that’s you!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 07:02 PM
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It’s not. But clearly you don’t actually care to talk to people, you’re just here to recite whatever bullshit you’ve assumed as fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:58 PM
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No, that’s a wild assumption that’s absolutely wrong dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:57 PM
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Don’t have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:55 PM
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I can see how that does exist, I’m just arguing it’s a fucked to hold and argue.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:54 PM
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The fraternal identity of the baby to be hidden from the husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:50 PM
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No, cuckoldry by definition requires A. An adulterous wife and B. The fraternal identity of the baby to be hidden from the husband. Explain to me how either of those apply here?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:45 PM
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No-see. If your issue was raising the kid, 100% I get that. Kids are a lot, they’re not for everyone. I’m not even sure I want kids. But if you want kids, wtf difference does it make whose sperm they came from? Like wtf? You’re telling me that your aspirations to be a father are totally self-centered and not at all focused on the raising of the human in front of you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:44 PM
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What response would’ve been better fitting? Dude is literally equating raising a kid with “cuckoldry”. The only takeaway there is that his masculinity is so fragile that even having evidence of another man in existence is enough to belittle him and emasculate him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:32 PM
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Nope, just a young woman judging all of y’all equating raising a mixed family as “cuckoldry” 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:31 PM
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Great job painting dating preferences as "making up imaginary things to be mad at" lol. Yeah you didn’t my comment bro 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:30 PM
-8

This is something almost no woman talks about. Because women aren’t making up imaginary things to be mad at? If you don’t want to date parents, you don’t. It’s really that simple. No PPD rant post or manosphere data needed to validate your preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:16 PM
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wow.. your masculinity is that fragile.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:11 PM
8

No I saw that, then I read on to understand the data and the numbers, and clearly that source isn’t supporting what you think it is. Did you read the full article?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:09 PM
11

Not everyone wants kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:58 PM
9

Let’s be real tho, does she actually want a long term relationship? Or is her fun just the trying and criticizing? You know, like a food critic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:44 PM
9

Oh so this is your personal experience as a “female”? Or are you just another boy on PPD desperately trying to mansplain a perspective you don’t understand and have never actually encountered?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:42 PM
34

All that source explores is the leisure time, which is still in favor of men. It’s not supporting whatever claims about work/labor balance you’re trying to make here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 11:51 AM
1

Because that’s not what reading people is. Your attraction to someone tells you literally nothing about them as a person. Your observations of how they dress, or carry themselves, what they have with them, all of those things give you small bits of real time insight into who they are as a person. None of it is assuming their whole person from a first impression, it’s simply noting the clearly observable facts available at that moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 12:52 AM
1

No you’re totally right because it’s very sensible if someone hates reading horror to pick up a Stephen King novel because “oh we don’t judge books by their cover” 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 11:55 PM
1

No. I personally wouldn’t say someone describing another groups interests as “garbage on top of garbage” is particularly intelligent or informed about said group.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 10:56 PM
1

And most women will never admit fault, and will therefore never change. you’re welcome 😘
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 10:49 PM
0

If women were good at reading people, they wouldn't be complaining about their own choices of friends and partners as much as they do. You need to surround yourself with better people hon, if that truly is your lived experience 🤦🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 10:43 PM
-1

You can’t read dude. Did you miss the “most” in my first comment? Also the form of a question.. wtf?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 10:37 PM
-1

Yeah like literally anything some people are really bad at stuff. And like literally anything some people are really good at coercion and manipulation. Clearly your above example features both types of individuals! It also, has nothing to do with what we were talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 10:29 PM
0

Yeah like literally anything some people are really bad at stuff. And like literally anything some people are really good at coercion and manipulation. Clearly your above example features both types of individuals! It also, has nothing to do with what we were talking about!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 10:27 PM
6

No shit. It’s even more frustrating for them because they’re killing themselves to keep up with unrealistic beauty standards and in truth they’re already beautiful they just never feel like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 10:13 PM
0

It boggles my mind that most men are so bad at reading people. Like do you not have eyes and a brain to draw connections and identify traits about a person before speaking to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 10:10 PM
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You’re conflating two different groups. Many of us who recognize the misogynistic messaging we were raised on have worked through the internalized trauma and shame, and live our lives as we please. The women you referred to previously, likely haven’t. They’re still operating from the playbook society gave them, performing behaviors taught to earn value and respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 10:01 PM
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Humans can think independently—but choice doesn’t exist in a vacuum. When you’re conditioned from a young age by powerful social cues, media, and reward systems, that conditioning shapes what feels like your “choices.” It’s not about making excuses—it’s about recognizing how much of what we call “preference” is actually learned behavior responding to deeply ingrained norms. When girls have been consistently shown that their value lies in being attractive and desirable, it’s no surprise they grow…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:54 PM
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You reference this part of OPs post: bombarding girls with sexual imagery and essentially grooming them to learn to be sensual humans with appeal to the male eye is predatory And then wrote: But women lean into this, do they not? They know that their social currency lies mostly in their looks, which is why women will go to the club on a below-freezing night in a mini-skirt and crop top after paying $300 to get their hair done. If all the messaging you’ve been given throughout life has trained yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:39 PM
1

it's just garbage on top of garbage. I think we may have located your issues with women 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:34 PM
5

I think you’re confusing a personal interest for a trained habit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:32 PM
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1.Being horny 2.Trust + Pre-determined interest in said guy And no “being horny” does not automatically mean sex. Don’t conflate the two like most men do. One is needing a sexual release and the other is letting someone inside my body.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:31 PM
3

This is a really important conversation—urban planning absolutely needs to evolve to foster stronger community ties and reduce isolation. But without parallel investment in social infrastructure—like better work-life balance, affordable housing, and policies that reduce wealth inequality—even the most well-designed spaces will fall short. A lot of the social distance we’re seeing today feels less like a choice and more like an energetic recession: people are too drained from long hours, high cos…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 04:20 PM
1

No shit. That’s what happens when you set-up a society where one gender is supposed to be fully financially dependent on the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 10:59 AM
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while men have to play provider, listener, best friend, protector, and therapist all at once No, that’s the part you’re not getting. Most women are their own providers, we have our own friends, listeners, therapists, all we need from you is romantic fulfillment- that’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:23 AM
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If only feminists recognized this in their whining about the wage gap. No we do. That’s kinda the whole point. Like if I have kids at home but their father is the one caring for them, my pay shouldn’t be affected because my hours and work aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:19 AM
4

So?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:17 AM
4

it’s just that women are more susceptible. You want to explain this?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 02:03 AM
2

Eh not for Gen Z women, maybe for elder Millenials and up tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:53 AM
4

It doesn’t. It blames unequal division of household labor, the gender wage gap, societal treatment of women, and social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:20 AM
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If you actually read that article you’d notice that none of the recorded reasons women gave for being stressed or unhappy were their jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:13 AM
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Oh so your confusion is basic English grammar then, I see. Well just fyi, in Modern English, we is a plural, first-person pronoun. Used by a speaker to refer to himself or herself and one or more other people considered together.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:11 AM
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Yes, seeing as I used it twice, clearly speaking of myself and other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:55 AM
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I say I’ve built a life I genuinely enjoy, and you automatically assume I work 50+ hours and have kids? So weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:43 AM
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Also, like 90% of women experience cellulite. I’m a small woman and I have cellulite. That’s not an obesity thing, that’s literally the female body storing extra fat deposits because we’re designed to grow a baby at any moment. Doesn’t matter how fit or skinny you are, majority of women have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:42 AM
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And what, we’re too dumb to recognize our supposed current unhappiness? Is that really more likely than we’ve built a life we genuinely enjoy living?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:28 AM
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My singleness isn’t because of societal expectations for men. I just haven’t found the right person for me. Why do y’all feel the need to overcomplicate everything?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:25 AM
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Damn she looks great for 50!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:23 AM
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yes 🤦🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:44 PM
2

you aren’t entitled to society giving men a restraint order for approaching you. Yeah, that’s not happening dude..
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:54 PM
2

Has there ever been a single unfuckable man that has ever had the introspection to realize that they're doing something that makes them unfuckable? Oh there’ve been tons, but see that introspection led to actual growth and self-development and now they’re not unfuckable anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:56 PM
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Yes, but you seem to think that freedom of speech goes one way? You are free to act as you want, you’re not free of social judgement. That’s not even a gendered thing, that’s just reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:55 PM
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It’s that y’all take rejection so terribly that even the online criticism of your imaginary actions are enough to turn you away from action. Everyone’s going to be mad at you at some point for something. Being a good person is doing the personal calculation of where your values lie and if you’re living them accordingly. That’s all that matters. Stop giving a shit what people think of you. Just don’t be a perv or an asshole, and you’re good.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:47 PM
1

Both parties have freedom of speech in that exchange, so what’s your issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:43 PM
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No I’m very consistent, you are free to judge a woman however you want. Just like I’m free to judge your comments or rhetoric as misogynistic if I think they are. See how that works?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:43 PM
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You’re free to make whatever choices you want. We’re free to judge you for whatever choices you make. That’s life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:26 PM
7

You know half of those poets and authors were women, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 05:18 PM
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I disagree with that completely. Women, after all, are the ones that nurture social relationships through all these love languages, men to their own devices with no prompting from a woman, don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 05:05 PM
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By your own admission then men are performing those actions to speak to a woman’s romantic nature? Y’all have to perform these behaviors because they’re not engrained in who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:54 PM
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1) not caused by men, and 2) not solved by men changing their behavior? “Uh hey dude, you’re standing on my foot.” “God! You want too much from me, why do I need to do anything to improve your situation?”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:53 PM
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Reread your og comment, it’s not very clear which sides violence you were supporting..
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:47 PM
1

Care to elaborate what “social issues” you’re referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:44 PM
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And so what? We concede and let the crazy people run the asylum?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:43 PM
6

It’s women. Google it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:52 PM
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My argument is that women don’t control their emotions as often as men And that’s where you’re wrong. The majority of women very successfully control their emotions. To use your own words here, I think you underestimate the self control of most women and are focusing on the aggressive minority
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:52 PM
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No. Same way men no longer defend their family + homes with their own lives, and we’ve evolved to have laws and civilization? That’s why women can now step outside of their antiquated gender roles as well. Technology has progressed and society has evolved. And it’s not only men that get to benefit from all that!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:50 PM
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And that’s exactly what I’ve been saying to you about women. Yet somehow your blind bias has been perfectly accepted this whole time 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:41 PM
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Do you know who’s statistically more likely to stand by their spouse in sickness + in health?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:40 PM
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Exactly. And have most men had to learn those super useful skills? No. So when faced with overwhelming emotion or sweeping hormones, they lose control, to the disruption or even danger of anyone else around him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:36 PM
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It does. You should google it. You’ll learn something.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:26 PM
2

No, it’s the fact that you think biology and ego are the same and that you intrinsically believe that men’s selfish conquests were actually more valuable to society then women’s constant sacrifices for the future generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:25 PM
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It’s that men’s aggressive competition was deemed “more productive” (and not at all disruptive) by capitalist standards, and women’s contributions, which are literally required for society as a whole to survive, were invalidated as less important. It’s ego hon, not factual reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:20 PM
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No one’s denying that emotional instability is causing issues for some people. But you seem to deny the fact that every single woman has been successfully living and surviving these “crashing hormones” and “wild emotions” every month, like clockwork, since we were about 10 years old. And you seem to think that the majority of women haven’t made it this far in life because of our skills to consciously handle our emotions at all times.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:18 PM
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Yes, that’s exactly my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:16 PM
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No, women “natural” sacrifices result in population growth, nourished people, healthy people, and more focused men in the workplace. Do you think men of the 60’s could’ve have been half as productive if they actually had to know how to wash their own underwear?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:15 PM
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Oh so you’re speaking from your lived experience as a woman, then? My bad didn’t realize you had first hand experience of this..
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:08 PM
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Id say women are just unhappy with the role that was biologically assigned to them. Not biology hon. Violent men. And what we’re experiencing today, these dating crises that yall complain about, is a direct natural consequence of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:07 PM
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So you’re just less aware of your moods or changing hormones then women are, got it 👍🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:05 PM
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I see you’ve never been a woman accused of her period literally every day of every month. So weird that you’re unaware how frequently this happens?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:04 PM
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No, just the latter. Mind you any time a woman complains about something our concerns are invalidated with “eh it’s just your period”. So now, society doesn’t actually care about women’s mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:00 PM
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I’m sorry you think men aren’t influenced by their mood or hormonal cycles?…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:59 PM
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Does “society” care more? Or do women just support other women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:58 PM
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Not the definition of stability we’re using here But let’s talk about it, men’s hormones and emotional waves are far more frantic, violent and disruptive to those around them, all because they generally lack the emotional intelligence and communication ability to process and handle their own shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:56 PM
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Y’all seriously overlook how fucking awful it is to be the nurturer. To always put yourself last, to only priories everyone else’s feelings and needs. Those are the sacrifices women have been making for centuries. Men got to come home and beat on their women, and women had to smile and take it. So yeah when a woman finally leaves a man and he’s left in a messy house of his dirty underwear and empty pizza boxes, his life is obviously worse than it was before, because he no longer has the domestic…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:55 PM
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So your point is that they’re justified in those threats of violence??
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:53 PM
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says the man on Reddit who just said so
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:52 PM
2

Basically all of those same problems existed back when we had perpetual monogamy with no means of resolution or escape.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:50 PM
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Who’s “threatening force” here?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:48 PM
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There are times when one needs to acknowledge that there are irreconcilable differences and force is the only comprehensible language left. Explain what you mean here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:44 PM
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Yeah it’s so romantic when wives get terminally sick and dudes statistically move on and leave them to suffer.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:39 PM
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It’s not that women dont want stability. It’s that theyre more fine in chaos. It’s that women are taught to be their own stability, men are taught to find a woman to do that for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:34 PM
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I'm convinced that men are more romantic. They’re not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:26 PM
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Yeah that’s not because “they love harder”.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:23 PM
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Yea, once again that’s from your biased perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:40 PM
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Men tend to be more romantic in some ways so I’m sorry, what?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:36 PM
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But you’re the one judging their choice as right or wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:35 PM
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is directly, 100% correlated to "choosing" right or wrong. to you… from your perspective..
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:29 PM
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Great. So those men should get right to work on that. Advocacy doesn’t just happen people. Fight for the legislation you want
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:56 AM
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That’s not healthy dude… wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:36 AM
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Nope, not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:21 AM
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Casually admits he views women’s rights as a bargaining chip
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:13 AM
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Except some of those things have a proven track record. And yours doesn’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:20 AM
1

🤦🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:14 AM
1

That’s lying saying doctors are used like a universal silver bullet when someone’s sick. Or like mechanics are the buzzword when you have car troubles. You get that, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:14 AM
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Not what I said. If you find yourself compatible with someone like that, then great, you do you. But if you find yourself compromising on a shitty relationship because you’re scared to be alone, have some self respect and don’t waste your energy like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:13 AM
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Because why are you wasting your time stressed about people that aren’t compatible with you? Genuinely it makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:10 AM
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Because personal choice fucking matters. Why the fuck do you think we can just forgo that??
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:47 AM
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And once again, those people are already suffering the consequences of their own actions. How many times do we have to loop this dude?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:45 AM
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OR they know what they’re looking for better than you, a random stranger, knows. Maybe you’re just taking it literally, but if someone says “I just want x,y,z” that doesn’t mean that’s the full list of their preferences. Those are just the priorities they value. So you can find someone else with xyz and they still may say no because you want kids and they don’t. You get that, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:42 AM
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Exactly! Most people aren’t compatible with most people. So why are you assuming that the people that compatible with each other are even the ones who both want a relationship? Because as we’ve already established, more women are perfectly happy living life solo. So explain to me how this hair-brained scheme to mass matchmaker the world is somehow more sensical than just empowering dudes to live their lives for their own health and happiness?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:33 AM
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No they basically are. But I’ve also mentored a lot of dudes in their dating escapades, you know what’s never been a problem for any of them? Sexual boundaries being crossed. Truly not sure why this is such an issue for you tho. . .makes one wonder tho
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:30 AM
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You wouldn’t have to check if you’d actually paid attention to the comments before you interjected here, but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:29 AM
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Alright how many of those people want the same things in life? Kids, lifestyle, pets. What about values like religion or politics? Obviously there are some divides you just can’t bridge across with a smile. Or personal interests even. What if you fucking love the marvel movies and think they’re the best thing in the world, and the partner you’re set up thinks they’re fucking stupid. Or maybe they’re the type of person that eats breakfast in the kitchen naked every morning and you yourself are a …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:28 AM
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Do you not understand how free speech works? I’m free to point out their bad behavior. They’re free to criticize our efforts. Only reason I brought it up is because previous commenter did as if the bullying was enough to stop all advocacy, my point is it happens all the time and we do it still.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:24 AM
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I’ve flirted with both very successfully. No inappropriate boundaries crossed whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:20 AM
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But you’re assuming A. There’s an equal number of men that want a relationship with women that want a relationship B. That those people would magically be compatible and want the same things out of life C. Are in the same basic zip code and speak the same language Explain how your “matchmaking” is supposed to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:19 AM
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No. Why would you police peoples language? Unless it crosses like huge moral and ethical boundaries, like racial slurs or deeply personal/private comments publicly, they’re entitled to their opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:17 AM
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Callous indifference is a status quo dude. It’s literally what all strangers give all other strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:15 AM
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Why do you think that? Generally dudes don’t give much thought to compatibility, so I’m curious what you think makes two separate people compatible for a long-term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:09 AM
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But are those men actually compatible with the women you’re talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:06 AM
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So go fix that
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:02 AM
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Yeah, and do you get how until genitalia or words about genitalia are involved, you’re basically good.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:02 AM
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Are you conflating priorities for a long term relationship with a casual sexual encounter?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:01 AM
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Then those guys should go to therapy and genuinely work on their self-worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:00 AM
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Well if a woman’s stating what she actively wants, then clearly she is prioritizing what she’s looking for because she’s single and looking till she finds it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:53 AM
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But why would he sacrifice his quality of life for a shitty relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:52 AM
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The biggest red flag is politics, so start voting for the women’s rights you supposedly want to fuck? Hygiene and style are big ones. General ambition and life goals, doesn’t actually matter what those are just that there’s some direction forward. Not participating in misogynistic rhetoric for fun. Another super easy one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:51 AM
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No. Because why on earth are you policing someone else’s life when they’re already suffering the negative and natural consequences of their own actions? It makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:49 AM
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Read bros last comment and tell me that doesn’t perfectly describe a friendship, something he’s fully capable of achieving himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:48 AM
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No, but you know what is affected by settling for a shittier partner? Your personal health and happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:47 AM
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9/10x yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:46 AM
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No, because my life is already full of friends and family and personal interests. I’m not stressing being alone because I fucking love my life. And I’m not willing to sacrifice any part of that life for someone that’s not a goddamn amazing fit for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:45 AM
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And if he could meet her standards, he would be better off, along with said woman. His choice here can cause two people to lose or two people to win. Now extrapolate that to an entire gender making poor choices. See what I did there?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:44 AM
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So here’s a universal lesson on consent to you. If your genitals or theirs are the focal point of an action, that’s a sexual advance. If you’re using sexual verbiage against another person, that’s a sexual advance. You know what’s not a sexual advance, “hi there”. Anything involving platonic interactions and full clothing. There’s literally more options that are appropriate, then are inappropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:43 AM
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Most modern women can't even approach men because it's scary. That’s not why we don’t approach men. We just don’t give a fuck. Highly recommend all of y’all try that sometime.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:41 AM
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Yeah it was a direct example to other commenters last comment. I was literally showing both sides of the issue, but really glad you’ve helped us all establish both sides once again. Super relevant to the conversation at hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:40 AM
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Then right back to my last point, those women are living the natural consequences of their life choices. So what’s the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:33 AM
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That’s not really related to the conversation at hand? But sure avoid women if that’s what makes you feel safe 👌🏻 Boundaries are important.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:31 AM
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So? Do you actually think women weren’t made fun of all of our advocacy efforts? We were endangered and insulted and made fun of and belittled, and we still did it. To this day we’re still mocked for it and made fun of, and we still do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:30 AM
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But I am happy. I wouldn’t be happy by settling for someone I’m not compatible with. See why your “solution” makes no sense? Why would I sacrifice my current happiness and satisfaction living a solo life for someone who doesn’t share my lifestyle, values, or interests?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:27 AM
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Because they value their time and energy with a minimum level of self respect?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:26 AM
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Do you know how many men violate and abuse women? We could go back and forth all night hon, doesn’t negate my previous points at all. If y’all wanted to fix it, you could.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:23 AM
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If women are over inflating themselves, as you say, then surely they’ll suffer the natural consequences of that and be alone with their high standards. So what’s the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:22 AM
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Both of those sound like issues yall could solve if you cared. You know the way women banded together to solve those problems for ourselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:20 AM
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Super no, there are countless moves before sexual advances are appropriate or even necessary. wtf dude?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:14 AM
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I didn’t mean “live alone” as in a living situation by themselves. I meant “live alone” as in go through life solo.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:14 AM
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There is always someone waiting to support you, or give you affirmation or at least give you attention. Bros just discovered friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:09 AM
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This is just a way of saying most women aren’t scared to live alone, while most men will settle for any relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:44 AM
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If I were commenting on your main comment I’d give a shit to argue. That’s not what this post is though. OP’s asking for a feminine perspective, I gave that. You commented on my top comment, good for you. Have a day ✌🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:00 AM
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Ok now I’m convinced you’ve just never met a woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:40 PM
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Let’s be totally honest, there is nothing I could say here that would actually change your mind on any of that. Right? So let’s save us the time and energy and leave it here, you said your opinions, I call them bullshit. Have a good day ✌🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:32 PM
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All of that is bullshit dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:25 PM
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Maybe because girls have been compared physically and energetically to porn stars since boys first watched porn. So a lot of women’s deep-seated insecurities stem from the unrealistic depictions of women that porn’s given men. Maybe the issue’s not the masturbation, but the continued use of media that makes your partner feel worse about themselves and their sexual intimacy with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:09 PM
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🤦🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:00 PM
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No, in 2016-2020 it was very obvious. Not this time round.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:52 PM
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The behavior you’re describing as “head turning” doesn’t currently exist in the dating market, does it? You’re swiping, swiping, swiping- shooting your shot with anyone that appears to have a vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:49 PM
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No, because men’s desperation has no sliding scale. They’re either interested or not, and generally if you have a vagina then they’re interested. (Literally look at how you described your own dating app behaviors earlier)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:43 PM
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No we do, because who we are is completely ignored. It doesn’t actually matter which one of us is in front of you or on that dating app profile. Y’all want a vagina, that’s the level of attention you give. Nothing’s validating about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:38 PM
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Welcome to modern dating hon!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:33 PM
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Well, it's a bit frustrating when someone can't even deign to read the info you put on your profile. Yeah, you know how many guys swipe right on women regardless of clear info in their bio that they’re incompatible?? Second, this is everyone. It's either that conversation, ghosting, or no response. Yeah, most people aren’t compatible dude, that’s just how humans work. Finding someone that fits is incredibly rare and magical when it happens. All we can do is maintain our sanity by not fucking was…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:29 PM
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And what’s the problem there? Y’all weren’t compatible. You now know they’re not compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:24 PM
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Very simple options, you put it in your bio, you make it a priority to discuss in your first conversation, you keep a checklist of info you need before you emotionally invest- literally all the ways us women have to cull a dating app so we don’t waste our time and put ourselves in harms way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:22 PM
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Yet you still value the pain and frustration of this ordeal so much that you’re putting yourself through it again and again and again. That’s your choice. If you know right out the gate that they want a traditional guy and you’re not that, why the fuck are you wasting your time and energy?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:19 PM
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Yes, you say that, and yet you still don’t get why they don’t want a woman to fuck on the first date. I’m running out ways to explain this very simple concept to you hon.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:16 PM
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Then go complain to those women. Pick better women and stop falling into these toxic patterns.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:16 PM
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You’re not speaking for their perspective because they value sexual purity and you clearly don’t. You view the dates as an exchange for sex- they don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:15 PM
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How would you know? You’re not dating these women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:11 PM
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Your definition of “winning” isn’t the same as a dude who wants a traditional relationship. How are not understanding this??
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:10 PM
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I said “only” because that’s having ever downloaded and tried an app even if you deleted in two hours later and never looked back, or didn’t even go on any dates from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:10 PM
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I assure you I do not go on dates with these women. then why the fuck do you give a shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:08 PM
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Dude she gives up her name, her job, her autonomy, her bank account, and becomes a domestic slave to push out babies for a man that’s doing who knows what when he’s not at home. She now has a gap in her resume that makes finding employment almost impossible, as well as a lack of credit history making things even more difficult. So if he’s abusive, or adulterous, guess who’s stuck and can’t leave? Not to mention that as a traditional woman who’s value is almost exclusively perceived as being sexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:06 PM
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Not necessarily. Are they widowed? Are all their kids from the same man? Is her sexual experience limited to that one man? Stop putting your own frame of reference on all of this, you’re not interested in a traditional relationship so clearly it’s not gonna make sense to you. Just stop going on dates with women who want that bullshit- problem solved!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:03 PM
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No, I think it’s a shit deal for the woman! I think the dude gets way too much out of the deal compared to what the woman gets. But I’m not a traditional woman and I’m not looking for a traditional man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:00 PM
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I don’t know if they’re looking for providers, the ones that I know just aren’t interested in taking care of another immature person. So they’re looking for an equitable relationship where both sides provide for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:59 PM
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Yes. Majority of people aren’t traditional anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:56 PM
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Yeah, and that’s up to said traditional man’s personal choice. Some dudes genuinely care that much about sexual purity that this is what they’re willing to do to land a traditional woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:54 PM
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Are you sure you’re not recognizing the different levels of support a friend gives you and how that different than the support of a society?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:45 PM
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Because you are conforming to the gender roles. As a traditional woman your job is to keep your legs closed as long as possible until you know that’s the man that will marry you and father your kids. Once again, equality and egalitarianism is about civil rights, legally. You can 100% advocate for equal rights and also want a traditional relationship for yourself personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:42 PM
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Sexuality isn’t offensive, period. Unwanted sexual behaviors to a non-consenting participant is offensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:39 PM
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Because traditional women generally believe in the sanctity of marriage, or at least long-term monogamy. No traditional man would want a woman who’s sleeping around on every first date she goes on. That’s the behavior of a sexually progressive person, that would not be looking for a traditional relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:36 PM
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That’s not being a traditional woman, that’s the literal opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:32 PM
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How can she do those things outside of a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:29 PM
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Dude are you being intentionally dense? Or are you genuinely having trouble understanding this? As a single woman with no relationship she is operating to the best of her abilities as a woman seeking a traditional relationship. Everything she’s doing aligns with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:26 PM
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Because she is willingly boxing herself into hers. That’s what being in a traditional relationship means.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:23 PM
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Because if she’s not compatible with you. You do not want a traditional relationship, that’s valid. You do not want to be a provider, that’s fair. She who wants to find a traditional relationship, is not compatible with you. She’s not getting “the best of both worlds” because one of those worlds is just literally equal rights which should not even be in your mind a “win” for women, it should be a given.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:21 PM
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Some women, like some men, value a traditional relationship. How is this news to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:58 PM
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Because that woman is looking for a traditional provider. It’s really that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:57 PM
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Why? One is arguing for equal rights for society. The other is a preference within your relationship for a specific dynamic. One is law. The other is preference. How do you not see the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:41 PM
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No dude. You’re conflating societal advocacy for equal rights as personal preferences, they’re not the same thing. Lots of traditional stay-at-home moms advocate for reproductive rights and equal pay, because that’s what’s important for society. Part of empowering that personal choice means they get to choose whatever relationship or lifestyle works for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:37 PM
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Only about 41% of women have ever used dating apps, and only 13% have used them in the last year. Gender ratios on dating apps are notoriously bad, like 80:20. and that’s assuming all the female profiles are actually authentic and not scammers. source That’s why it’s dumb to assume actions on dating apps are representative of a majority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:33 PM
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Because some women want a traditional relationship. Also, you do recognize that dating apps aren’t a great representation of women overall?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:09 PM
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I think we could argue your wife was already more inclined to western culture simply by her interest in moving into it. Also, not sure you intended it, but that second paragraph seems weirdly controlling on your part. I hope you’re not limiting your wife’s living experience for your own comfort.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 03:43 PM
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Do you not get how someone’s societal values can differ from their own? Like a traditional housewife can still fight for women’s reproductive rights and equitable pay. A desire to protect people’s rights and opportunities doesn’t necessarily contradict your own personal preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:37 PM
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“traditional non-western woman” y’all are dreaming of The trad-wife dudes crave are not waiting for the first American they find to pop over and take them off to a new world away from tradition and family.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:34 PM
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Because any “traditional non-western woman” y’all are dreaming of would have no interest in moving to such a western + liberal country.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:25 PM
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This works if you move to a developing country. Not if you travel and bring said women back to western country.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:22 PM
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Connection, spark, chemistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:20 PM
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You were creating a binary dichotomy with no room for nuance whatsoever No, I wasn’t. Ironically you are doing just that now tho.. you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:16 PM
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get COMPLETELY behind those same talking points when it comes to relationships, sex, and marriage. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:16 PM
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I’m not assuming anything. I said what I said, describing the difference between the two things OP was conflating into one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:10 PM
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Did you even read my og comment? Complaining about your lived experience with a woman is totally valid. Complaining about the stereotypes you’ve assumed of women, isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:01 PM
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Not if you’re assuming your personal experience is universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:45 PM
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Complaining about your lived experience with a woman is totally valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:40 PM
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Only women look to opportunities first he seems nice but what can he do for me if this isn’t met then he will only get disrespected going forward. No, that is exactly how most men operate. I think your bias is showing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:31 PM
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most women show contempt towards men first Once again, that’s just how humans work. That’s not a gendered thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:17 PM
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Yes to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:12 PM
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in reality women just see guys as guys they would date and guys they would not That’s just how humans work dude, nothing gendered about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:09 PM
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It’s the same base instinct dude, protecting the family.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:06 PM
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Women also suffer and die for their families. Is the average man sacrificing his life for his family in this modern day/age?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:57 AM
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Yeah… no. Men don’t love “spirit first”. Some men likely do, but the data we have on male attraction and dating habits does not support your overall hypothesis.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:50 AM
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Why would I rank anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:48 AM
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you can fit an archetype and have no personality or not fit an archetype and have personality. No you fit the archetype because your personality, looks and mannerisms match the vibe.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 03:58 AM
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Are you just realizing that women actually care about vibes and personality as much as we say we do?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 03:48 AM
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Your boundaries are yours. They’re not to be dolled out or threatened. They’re not about the person you’re dating and their actions. They’re about your values and what you prioritize and protect for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:20 AM
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How exactly is that “devaluing gays”?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 10:56 PM
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EDIT: Hahahahaha you dumb triggered femtards, the harder you downvote and the angier and more spiteful you get my power grows Aw imagine caring this much 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 10:01 PM
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Both the opinions you gave previously.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 09:51 PM
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Yeah I don’t think the logic on either of those tracks, but you’re entitled to your opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 09:42 PM
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Of course you do. If your goal is a sustainable and fulfilling long term relationship, then don’t enter into a relationship with someone who’s incompatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 09:38 PM
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How do you know men they are “actually compatible with” are getting dismissed?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 08:58 PM
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Can you explain how you’re defining “true compatibility”?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 08:32 PM
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No, just dating in general. Why would you waste time dating or entering a relationship with someone you know is incompatible?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:50 PM
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That doesn’t mean they’re compatible with more people. Just that they ignorantly don’t think about compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:41 PM
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No, also how men work. Human beings don’t all get along. Some don’t vibe, some personality’s don’t mesh. Some people annoy the shit out of you. That’s all universal regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:37 PM
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Majority of people don’t get along dude, that’s just how humans work.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:35 PM
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I think you’re conflating different things here. Complaining about your lived experience with a woman is totally valid. Complaining about the stereotypes you’ve assumed of women, isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:28 PM
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The goal isn’t finding a person it’s about finding the right person for you. What you’re describing is the basic mechanics of dating, I will never understand why more men don’t do the same sorts of compatibility checks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:25 PM
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No. Posts like me make me wonder who here hasn’t had sex nor a relationship to fully understand these concepts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:11 PM
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She assumed therapy is there for men to loosen their boundaries of what they find acceptable; it is not. I don’t think she did..
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:45 PM
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This take wildly oversimplifies history and ignores centuries of systemic, gendered oppression backed by law, culture, and violence—especially against women. Claiming “men and women have always been equal” is not only historically false, it’s intellectually dishonest. Feminism isn’t about “oppression points,” it’s about dismantling real, measurable inequalities—from voting rights to workplace discrimination to bodily autonomy. If you truly believe both genders have always been equal, you’re not …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:35 PM
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Again I don’t think that’s invalidating to recognize someone’s dealing with emotions that you’re simply unable or unqualified to navigate safely with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:29 PM
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How is it invalidating to hear someone’s emotional experience and recommend therapy as a functional tool? Therapy is literally the place you go to work through valid emotional trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:24 PM
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Hence the not even and the maybe 🤦🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:27 PM
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I think it’s as ridiculous that you’re assuming to know what women mean when they use the term “dad bod”. But sure, mansplain away women’s preferences to me ✌🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:25 PM
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Okay, so like I said.. Not even. Like maybe if you’re in a committed relationship where y’all live together and generally share all other household appliances ex. curling iron, dehumidifier, blender
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:23 PM
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that is lesbian or bi behavior then what?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:12 PM
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that is lesbian or bi behavior Not even. Like if you’re in a committed relationship where y’all live together and share most household appliances then maybe?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:10 PM
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As someone who has held this exact conversation with lots of women, more truly prefer parks and rec Chris Pratt over the post-marvel version 🙌🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:07 PM
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That post is talking about a micropenis dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:04 PM
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Most of those have nothing to do with sex. Also, a few of those are completely made up- women aren’t sharing vibrators wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:02 PM
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https://youtu.be/b_IsF01m2qw?si=asws9PQPd6Dm12av
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 11:52 AM
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I mean about 30% of Gen Z women identify as LGBTQ+, so you’re not far off..
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:22 AM
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wow..
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:17 AM
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I don’t think yall understand what that term means..?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:16 AM
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sarcasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:59 AM
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Yeah, fluff, padding, weight. Like dad bod. Not morbidly obese, cuz that’s not healthy for anyone, but a more rounded and comfortable shape. Think Chris Pratt pre-marvel movies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:58 AM
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No. As a fit woman I’m boney enough. I need some cushion for the pushin. Also when I’m on my period I want to pig out, and reasonably dudes with diet plans aren’t interested in picking up chocolate milkshakes and chicken nuggets for their gfs cravings, in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:51 AM
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I don’t totally get your point? But I’ve also been the one to tell guy friends they’re idiots for the women they’ve picked. Bros out here complaining about his girlfriend’s shopping habits as if she wasn’t wearing a designer handbag + coordinating shoes when he first picked her up. I think in general it has less to do with these women “knowing their worth” and more like these women simply know what their lifestyle costs. Like monthly hair, nails, waxing, that’s a pricey lifestyle so if you’re at…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:48 AM
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Most women prefer fluff over fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:36 AM
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I mean you’re right about most of that, but I think you’re assuming any guy would meet that criteria of sexual tension and romance. They don’t. Like the right person that vibes with me would be an amazing addition to all those activities. But why would I ruin a perfectly fun activity dragging someone along I don’t vibe with, you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:43 AM
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Dating a guy I’m not head over heels with just seems like a chore. This.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:48 PM
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man whose never held a conversation before
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:07 PM
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wtf? are we even reading the same conversation here?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 10:55 PM
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Do you understand how irrelevant that is to answering OPs question? Do you get how that was a reply to your comment..And not my top comment to Op. Or do you not get how Reddit works? Also of all the genuine answers you could’ve responded with, essentially saying “suck it up we’re hunting you” is hella fucked. What the actual fuck dude 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 10:22 PM
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You keep commenting this imagined shit about chad and women, and you need to stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 10:14 PM
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Dude you need to stop with this perverted fantasy of yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 10:10 PM
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I don’t even think you understand how gross that makes us feel tho. Like the idea of adding pervy uncle Bob to any of those activities ruins it completely. Like makes me wanna vomit knowing I’m trying to be there + enjoy myself, but I end up just be a rack of meat for some dude to eye all night. Do you not get how fucked up that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 10:00 PM
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I mean I don’t think it’s a double standard. I’d wager the same people who think men are more intelligent than women are the same ones thinking women are too sweet and demure to make mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:51 PM
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Okay you’re now arguing a point that no one here has made? But go off sis ✌🏻✨
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:48 PM
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I’d agree with your reading of things. In my experience women don’t lack the libido necessarily, just that our libido is better served on our own than via risky casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:43 PM
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I think you’re assuming dumb introspection where there’s just external dishonesty. The sooner y’all realize women are just as intelligent as y’all, the better of we’ll all be ✌🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:40 PM
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No, it wasn’t. Have you read the og source material?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:30 PM
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They like sex with men they are attracted to Did you really have to type that out for it to make sense to you? Do you like sex with men you’re not attracted to?? Cuz they’re out there and plenty willing to hook up with you if you ignored that pesky attraction bit..
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:29 PM
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Any of those things plus sexual tension is even more fun That is pretty universally true, even for women. But unfortunately if you add the wrong person to any of those you don’t get the fun sexual tension you just get weird uncle Bob who stares at your chest too much.. So do you also see why we’re not quick to tarnish our fun things with random dudes?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:25 PM
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one out of every four women has done it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:20 PM
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Almost none of what you listed is exclusive to a romantic or sexual relationship? Either way it’s like literally anything in life. Bring someone cool with you and it’ll be a fun time. Bring someone annoying with you and it’ll suck. So a lot of times your own company is far better and we’ll stick to that until we meet someone that’s better than being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:07 PM
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Yes, literally why is that an either/or? I’m genuinely starting to wonder at the intuitive consciousness some of y’all are missing…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:05 PM
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Never said it was real. Just offered some practical advice if yall want to go through with OPs steps.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:03 PM
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It wasn’t even gathered data of their users. It was an optional survey some of their users took.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:02 PM
1

Great. You’re still gonna want to hit up those makeup tutorials then!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:01 PM
11

Do you understand anything about female pleasure?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:18 PM
4

But to trust it you’re assuming a significant level of self-awareness on behalf of the man. Do you think most men pay that close attention and record every strategic move when they’re about to get laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:16 PM
2

I know that, that’s not what I was saying .. nm
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:07 PM
1

Does it even qualify as a “gangbang” if it’s just a threesome?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:52 PM
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No. 1:4 is way too fucking high. I don’t know a single person who’s done one, and I’m a part of a lot of diverse communities that explore a myriad of adventurous things. Edit: maybe I know one? I know someone who does porn and it’s totally possible she’s done one of these for a video before, but that’s a paid gig so idk if we’d even count that here..
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:46 PM
1

Okay. Are we talking like “attraction” as in like the feelings and emotions of falling for someone or are you just focusing on getting to the sexual component? it’s just different advice depending what stage you’re talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:40 PM
6

Like men could narrow down exactly what part of their strategy actually worked?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:39 PM
1

Are we talking about like two strangers on a first date trying to score? Or like in an established relationship just turning your partner on?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:34 PM
11

Great. Go do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:26 PM
2

May want to reread my comment. I was arguing against a specific point of OPs.. not sharing my own opinions hon 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:25 PM
0

and that doesn't have nothing to do with OP's ideas I never said it did..?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:24 PM
2

Yeah I was following OPs example. Apparently “trust me bro” is the source of the day!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:16 PM
1

was this comment meant for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:15 PM
2

Tbh the better question is “what makeup do you wear” because even the chillest girls who doesn’t “wear makeup” would even say “oh a dab of mascara”.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:13 PM
10

Where would the beauty industry be if you just lived for yourselves Exactly where it is, with duochrome shadows, dewy primers and 50 shades of lip liner. Some people love their cars. Some people love their makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:10 PM
3

For people that share a vanity and shallow value for aesthetics, which generally means searching for external validation. sure
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:06 PM
1

we allow women, as a group, to hold so much leverage over us. “allow”?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:02 PM
12

Women tend to conflate their fake face for their natural one. It’s not conflating nor deceit unless someone’s outright lying about it. Dudes being too dumb to recognize a drawn on eyebrow and a color corrector is their own issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:57 PM
6

Is this really a question? Dude on the left looks way better.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:51 PM
12

You’d be surprised lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:47 PM
14

Women are good at guarding their secrets, but not perfect. Like I said in my comment, it’s literally all publicly accessible information. Women aren’t hiding shit, or if we were trying to we clearly suck at that 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:44 PM
22

Y’all and that fucking Ok Cupid study. You’re not even reading the original data correctly 🤦🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:43 PM
5

Got it. Pure paranoia 👍🏻 Here I was trying to understand your analysis better, silly me for thinking there was any 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:42 PM
53

Stop analyzing women's attractiveness based on their made-up/worked-on face. Instead, only analyze their natural looks. Best of luck with that. Y’all may need to start cramming those natural makeup looks on YouTube/TikTok, because as it stands most men genuinely suck at recognizing what’s natural and what’s product applied lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:41 PM
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What about their comments has you suspecting they’ve engaged in such behaviors? And are you recognizing that from any of the male posters here?…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:34 PM
4

Dude if your “cross-section” is of a gym, then all those people, regardless of their backgrounds or professions, all clearly share a vanity and shallow value for aesthetics, which generally means searching for external validation. All of which is very symptomatic of what we know about cheaters.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:20 PM
5

No, I’m well aware that a decent amount of shitty behavior happens. Knowing that they occur from a minority of people, is well accepted knowledge. Your assumption that’s it’s the majority of people is the problem here 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:16 PM
3

No one’s denying that those people exist. No one’s denying that this behavior doesn’t happen. Most of us are disagreeing that those behaviors are representative of a majority of people. totally normal regular nice people, are cheating and sleeping around way more than you think. Yeah idk if you’re the trusted source on deciding who’s normal/regular/nice lol. Like yeah “normal” people cheat given certain circumstances, but what you’ve described in your post is just shitty behavior by shitty peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:08 PM
1

Well for one thing gay men aren’t having threesomes with a woman. . Because duh
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 12:08 PM
1

Based on your explanation above tho that’s not “holding frame”?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 03:29 AM
19

Personal performance in a sexual encounter isn’t the same as watching porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 03:22 AM
0

No, the emotional regulation is seen in how someone refutes that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 03:20 AM
1

I mean maybe? But you’ve built a whole presumed backstory where there isn’t any. As adults we want to hang with other adults who have basic emotional regulation. That’s a normal thing. As adults we understand the impact of our actions, even the digital ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 03:11 AM
1

Sure, but once again, actual Gen Z here.. this thing you’re saying is rampant amongst Gen Z? Isn’t..
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 03:04 AM
11

Even if they did date bi/pan women, that doesn’t mean they’re into threesomes like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:59 AM
4

Then do us all a favor and put that “feminists” in quotations. Cuz that was my main issue with your comment. You making sexist generalizations about feminists as if they held weight in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:57 AM
1

and simply never was a social media meme term until zoomers engaged with said content. I don’t even think it’s a mainstream social media term now..
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:55 AM
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Dude, life is a roadtrip and y’all are copilots. Sometimes they drive the car so you can sleep, other times you drive the car so they can sleep. Equal relationships absolutely exist, you just take a lot more turns depending on the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:51 AM
1

That is so many words to just mean a dude has emotional regulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:48 AM
1

No, I’m saying this as someone who spends a lot of time in coed third spaces with fellow Gen Z… Are you Gen Z yourself? Like is this your lived experience or is this you playing anthropologist and prescribing actions of a younger generation?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:43 AM
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If he's a leader, he's too insecure to let her lead. If he lets her lead, he's too insecure to stand up to her. Different people say those things. The first comment is generally said by women. The latter is usually said by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:40 AM
1

But basically a lot of social norms of zoomers have resulted in them warring with each other over who gets to maintain frame (not even in just romantic relationships). And now things that used to be seen as endearing are becoming seen as losing frame and thus “cringe.” Genuinely can’t say I’ve ever observed this, or experienced it, amongst my generation lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:36 AM
1

No I completely agree with that part. I just view the “cognitive dissonance” as thinking you’re some independent feminist and then letting your husband walk all over you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:35 AM
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I was agreeing with you dude. Did you even read my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:14 AM
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That’s a weird argument? but sure I guess if people are saying that then it’s dumb and they’re wrong.. That being said I absolutely have been in relationships where dude brings up threesome and I have to bring up MMF to put it in perspective what they’re asking for, tends to make them rethink the whole threesome idea altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:03 AM
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I think there's some cognitive dissonance between what type of man woman are attracted to and their feminist beliefs. No. There’s cognitive dissonance here for sure, in no way is it what you’re describing 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 01:57 AM
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When the time comes, do yourself a favor and learn how to do your daughter’s hair. Give a shit about the girly things she’s into and validate her interests like you would a son. If she wants your opinion on what sparkly tutu to wear for kindergarten photos, you better be pulling out your best Tim Gunn impression and giving that girl an informed opinion. Little girls learn early on the type of respect they should expect from men. You want to know how to raise a young woman who doesn’t accept the …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 01:37 AM
3

I fall into this category but I don’t see it as them leading anything. It’s just me delegating 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 01:27 AM
10

I looked at OPs post history. I want to vomit. Man’s emotionally abusive to get what he wants and she never says no to sex. what the actual fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 01:20 AM
1

wtf does “lose frame” mean here? I’m a gen z woman and I’m genuinely so lost by this whole post.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 01:17 AM
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I won't be leading raising a daughter. This is a fucked opinion dude. Until her first period there’s literally nothing going on that you shouldn’t have full ability to lead on. Raising your sons and daughters like different species is highly problematic and not great for family respect and unity.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 01:15 AM
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Hold up, how did you end married to a man and only then realized he was into the trad con relationship dynamics? I resisted this for a while and conflict ensued not giving him peace These phrases alone make my blood boil. I guess if you’re happy then good for you, but god that sounds like a controlling nightmare to me. Like dude could’ve “had peace” far sooner if he’d just appreciated the actual woman he fell for 🤦🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 01:12 AM
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When women go for men who are smarter than them, or funnier than them, or more exciting than them, they run the risk of choosing a man who does not respect her. Sounds like a self-own dude. I feel like normal people don’t quantify who does and doesn’t deserve respect like that. It matters who you are, not you measure up to me..
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 01:08 AM
0

Somewhat yes and then a bit no. It is absolutely easier to find your soulmate level match in modern day. Between social media, apps, and general online communities it’s way easier to connect with people across the world and find those connections that are really meaningful to you. No longer are we limited by our zipcode to find the right person for us, and international communication and travel makes it even easier to find and connect with those people irl. So many genuinely amazing couples I kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 05:55 PM
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Idk how true that is but considering most sex happens in committed relationships, that's pretty alarming. I don’t even mean like violent or anger, just that the average man does not have the emotional regulation to handle much feedback during a vulnerable act like sex because a lot of men hear women’s opinions and equate that to criticism. Not saying this is true for everyone, but I’ve certainly been there and I know countless women who’ve been there as well when one second you’re having sex and…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 05:45 PM
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and in fact fakes an orgasm, should people take her complaints seriously after the fact? Yes. But that follows many attempts to communicate and correct the sexual partner. The “faking it” isn’t done to appease the woman, it’s because a lot of men react very badly when receiving any correction in the bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 05:12 PM
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Hon, if the women you’re sleeping with are just starfishing, then they’re not into the sex and just want you to finish as quickly as possible so it can all be over.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:58 PM
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There’s no double standard. Women aren’t judging men who put in the active effort and the orgasm just isn’t happening, that’s the nature of the beast and totally normal. Women are judging men who put in no/bare minimum effort and then expect to use the woman’s body as a fleshlight. Sex is about mutual pleasure. Masturbation is a solo adventure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:57 PM
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Why are you assuming she didn’t communicate with him throughout? To reach that level of exasperation you likely have multiple attempts at communicating, rephrasing and trying to demonstrate yourself to get them clued in. If they’re not picking up what you’re putting down, that’s on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 12:58 PM
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Sex is about mutual pleasure. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 12:55 PM
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If shes shocked by his living style after moving in with him then obviously he was cleaning regularly when they were dating to impress her. That shows a clear understanding of societal norms as well as the capacity to clean their living space. It was dishonest on his part to advertise one set of traits and then revert once they’re living together.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 03:40 AM
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Because it is. Just because you want to live in squalor doesn’t mean your partner signed up to live in squalor. So pick up your shit, or live alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 03:25 AM
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A surprising amount of men know how to say and do the right thing whilst courting only to get very lazy once they’ve married the woman. Add to that the extra labor of kids that generally most dads don’t quite grasp fully, and suddenly being a wife and a mother is a full time job even if she also works a full time job. Not to say this happens to all couples, but the few women I know ended up here because their husbands stopped showing up in the marriage and the women care too much about preservin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 12:24 AM
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Whatever is outside the bounds of our established relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 09:31 PM
1

Why are you dating her then? She’s at a completely different life stage than you and doesn’t share your values or lifestyle preferences. (none of that’s even a judgement, mind you) Y’all don’t seem compatible as life partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 03:23 PM
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Yeah totally, that’s why women have been oppressed historically and kept from power. That’s why women have been property and second class citizens for centuries. Your opinions totally track with the reality and history of the world around us🤦🏼‍♀️ Enjoying access to a vagina =\= valuing women or feminine traits
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 10:30 AM
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How the hell do you see us as belittling that which we most desire? Man up. Don’t be a pussy. You run like a girl. You’re conflating the desire of access to a vagina for a positive judgement of feminine traits, they’re not the same thing. Just look to our world, “men’s” hobbies are considered worthwhile and valuable, “women’s” hobbies are frivolous and unnecessary. Same for professions. Same for character traits in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 10:03 AM
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Raising boys as if we're defective girls is the fucking problem here. That literally requires a gendered societal response, the fact that you think there’s a “girl way” to do things and a “boy way” to do things is entirely the problem. You ever wanna talk about true internalized hatred of women (actual misogyny) where it comes from, and who put it there? Sure, centuries of society celebrating masculine traits as superior and belittling feminine traits as inferior and weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 09:43 AM
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Dude, it’s men and women. That’s how the patriarchy works. You’re the only one making this a gendered issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 09:37 AM
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No, boys weren’t taught that. They were just taught that girls aren’t here to serve them. Same as girls were taught when we threw antiquated gender roles in the past where they belong. The issues you’re complaining about are because of those toxic gender norms. So let’s move beyond them, yeah?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:02 AM
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No, “being disingenuous” would be implying that we teach boys an extra set of oppressive lessons rather than the actual equal skills we give kids in general these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 05:58 AM
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Because men are magnificent and can do no wrong /s
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 05:52 AM
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You seem to be projecting a lot of personal values onto these “observations”. Unless you’re clairvoyant, then I’ll give you credit for the mind-reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 05:48 AM
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All kids are “targets needing education”… that’s literally how children work.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 05:39 AM
3

What question? Which one of us is “insecure”? 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 05:38 AM
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Shall I now paste all the news articles where a dad killed his daughters? Or can we both agree with the very obvious fact that insane people do insane shit, completely regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 05:22 AM
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Dude, don’t be catty. She answered your question fairly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 05:04 AM
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I already answered.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 04:52 AM
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Some do, some don’t? This cannot be a serious question bro 🤦🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 04:48 AM
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There is a higher risk for us(pregnancy, higher risks of stds, sexual violence) So true, but you know what we don’t mention enough.. the post sex UTIs. Sure, they’re totally fixable but god damn does the pain sneak up on you if a dudes hands/dick/tongue bacteria doesn’t jive with your natural ph.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 04:08 AM
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For me personally, when I’m not in a relationship I’m still horny as hell but I genuinely have no interest in casual sex. My orgasm, pleasure and satisfaction is something I provide for myself. I’m also not a touchy-feely person so the idea of even hugging a stranger for more than 10 seconds grosses me out, much less letting them inside of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 03:59 AM
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It’s pretty funny what you learn when you actually keep current on your sources for a topic! https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/06/well/family/orgasm-gap-women-age.html
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 01:24 AM
1

Completely devoid of anything meaningful. Your entire post? Yup, for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:04 AM
1

Few people aren't superior to them. Well you’re certainly not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:37 AM
3

What?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:30 AM
2

Honey I was raised Christian. I literally was a salaried employee at Lutheran Church in my early 20s. I’ve studied history, theology, folklore, pagan rituals. All of which is rooted in the exact same place, by the way. You have the audacity to ask me for consideration when you’ve given none before your judgmental comments spouted here as fact? Nothing beats the hypocrisy of a Christian man, I swear to god and mother earth herself 🤣💀
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:30 AM
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I didn’t talk about abortion laws. I talked about conservative and religious values. For the record the very people you’re condemning here are statistically republicans from red states. Nowhere have I said they’re all saints. Just that you have literally no right nor reason to assume moral superiority to these people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:13 AM
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Did they have access to birth control? Or sex education? Were the sexual encounters even consensual or were they assaults that they were stuck with due to conservative values about abortion? Were they married to said partner when they started their family? There’s literally so many reasons here, but the main one that matters is anyone quantifying how “morally inferior” other random strangers are, is a fucked up individual in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:05 AM
1

I think their criticism is your general judgement for those women as morally inferior?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:00 AM
3

Genuine question, is your criticism against the concept of faith in general or just about secular faith?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:52 PM
3

You’re implying that it’s not something innate about a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:48 PM
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Sexual fluidity doesn’t mean sexuality is a choice. .
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:45 PM
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In your head apparently they do. Too bad you can’t back it up 😕
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:40 PM
7

wow- you totally made that shit up 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:36 PM
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You gonna link that source? Because clearly that’s not representative of the data the rest of us have read on the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:32 PM
3

It doesn’t. It just specifies that the abused victim was one of the female partners, not the relationship to the abuser or the timeframe it occurred in.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:27 PM
5

In these comments, OP defends his belief in Catholicism while critiquing any other form of spiritualism and also magically has clairvoyant insight into bisexual women and their “real” thoughts. This would be an interesting conversation if he weren’t so blinded by his own preconceived opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:24 PM
5

No, a belief in something greater is just that. It comes in different flavors but yours isn’t inherently superior than others just because you participate in public shame if you don’t perform the right steps at the right consistency.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:20 PM
4

I realized that it is actually majorly unhealthy. Funny, I feel the same way about organized religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:18 PM
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No, you’re perpetuating bi-phobia dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:16 PM
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Bisexual women’s standards for women aren’t “higher” than for men, they’re just different- because men and women are different. Also bisexual women tend to not give a fuck about male height. You’re projecting heterosexual dating preferences on an unrelated group.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:15 PM
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You prescribed random numbers to my opinions and then have proceeded to argue those made-up figures with me for over an hour. That’s the qualm I had with your comments. Never did I say anything to the contrary. Maybe if you actually read other people comments and didn’t straw-man imaginary data you’d have more productive conversations on this app 🤦🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:42 PM
1

Dude are you being intentionally dense here?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:34 PM
1

Yes. Like I said multiple times now, he is well below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:24 PM
1

Because majority are around a five, he’s well below a five.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:19 PM
1

Most, a five.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:13 PM
1

Saying some is “well below average” is not saying he’s “uglier than 85-90% of men”. The term “average” recognizes a central standard however wide and varied the spectrum. The percentages of “85-90%” would be considered a majority, by literal Math & English terminology.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:02 PM
1

Yeah that doesn’t provide any confidence in your ability to understand averages…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 09:50 PM
1

I don’t think you understand how averages work my dude?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 09:34 PM
1

Only he is, in fact, well below average. Your refusal to admit that while continuing to dunk on the woman’s looks is, well laughable, but clearly showing your innate bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 09:29 PM
1

not a study, but a poll from a profiting business, so bias limited survey time of a specific group from 2009 But mostly your comments like most on this sub ignore the intention behind the data gathered. Men are more likely to try and match with anyone they find attractive, regardless of potential relationship compatibility. Women aren’t, they will select a smaller portion of potential suitors, but each individual woman’s collected “portion” won’t be the same woman to woman. Whereas men’s will la…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 09:27 PM
1

No actually I don’t. Just recognizing that the first image I saw of him reminded me of that incel who shot a bunch of people. So my brain went “yeah that’s not a generally attractive person”.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 09:17 PM
1

No. Literally just going off of what you’ve already commented above.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 09:10 PM
1

I don’t think you do if you think trump’s economic policies thus far are examples of “rational thinking” and strategic planning..
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 09:08 PM
1

To put it in shallow terms he’s well below average. He’s on the shorter side and scrawny, with a weak chin and eyes that look beady in comparison. That being said they look adorably happy together and like a beautiful couple.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 09:05 PM
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I don’t understand why people won’t just admit it. Well some of us actually understand economics. . so there’s that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 08:50 PM
2

Another dude misquoting that damned OkCupid “study” with no understanding of the raw data 🤦🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 08:48 PM
2

That dude’s not tall, she’s just incredibly short 🤦🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 08:39 PM
2

Wait that’s so cute and wholesome. Y’all don’t settle for someone who’s not hyping you up in your hobbies/interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 08:35 PM
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No that’s just it. They’re not “girl next door” types. Men may label them that but on the actual spectrum of female looks, they’re on the high end. It’s sort of thanks to Hollywood convincing us that women like Drew Barrymore and Anne Hathaway were “normal” and “plain looking”. I don’t think most men even notice the low end of women to recognize how skewed their observations even are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 08:15 PM
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Your goals may change but your personal boundaries don’t. Either you’re the type of person that’s fine with physical intimacy with new acquaintances or you’re the type who needs more connection to reach that physical intimacy. It doesn’t seem like you understand the vulnerable position women are in from these encounters and are unable to comprehend why the majority of women don’t just randomly decide “today I’m going to let a strangers appendage enter inside my body”..
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 08:13 PM
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Or, you know, most guys are just invisible to women because they don’t hit the attractiveness threshold The same is true for average looking women that go completely unnoticed by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 08:07 PM
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The source you’ve already shared here supports exactly what I’m saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 08:03 PM
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Do you see how in the article you linked “initiating divorce” means “filing the paperwork”? Also according to your cited article, it’s most commonly a final reaction to a long and ongoing struggle for respect within the relationship. Women often feel less satisfied in marriages due to unmet emotional needs, poor communication, and lack of independence.* None of those are women stirring up trouble, it’s about men not fulfilling their end of the partnership. (Now I know plenty of couples where the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 08:02 PM
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It’s also based on your personal experience, is it not? In another comment you said: but I don't see how people can spend 100+ hours/week alone with their thoughts and not feel lonely or isolated at all Clearly implying that your personal experience is feeling lonely and isolated without that social interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 07:50 PM
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You’re trying to equate two things that aren’t the same. To fix the metaphor for you, Both the man and the woman could easily opt to let their body be used for someone else’s physical pleasures, if they ignore their own sexuality/preferences/relationship goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 07:47 PM
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I didn’t mean that all women aren’t responsible. I meant that the “majority of women” above commenter was describing aren’t inherently the choosers of their divorce just because they filed the official paperwork. I agree marriage takes two people and yeah lots of women are the reason marriages end, lots of men are too. But I wasn’t trying to make a claim about divorce, rather refuting a very specific incorrect claim by above commenter.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 07:41 PM
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Remember how awful quarantine was for people who lived alone? Again, it was awful for people who were extroverts. You’re projecting your personal experience onto everyone else and it’s not accurate lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 07:35 PM
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For a person seeking casual sex, their desired relationship outcome is casual sex, so I don't even see how that's relevant. That was entirely the point I was making.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 07:33 PM
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Because the “being wanted for a quick fuck” isn’t the win. The compatible goals of casual sex is, as clearly laid out in my top comment. I mean, you have lots of options if you expand to gay men. But you see how your dating potential didn’t grow by simply ignoring sexuality, preferences, and desired relationship outcomes that aren’t necessarily aligned with the group of people wanting sex from you? Do you feel like you hold “a big win” for all the gay men that would happily fuck you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 06:59 PM
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Those women like casual sex. What are you not understanding?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 06:54 PM
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Monday through friday you're gonna be feeling lonely and isolated. No.. I mean you might, especially if you’re more extroverted to begin with. But most people genuinely don’t feel “lonely” or “isolated” by going days without social interaction like you describe.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 06:52 PM
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takes a shot for clairvoyant dude-bro claiming ‘gaslighting’
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 06:51 PM
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It does change it tho. You’re arguing that the average person is feeling isolated majority of the time and the data you were citing was incorrect. Based on that article the average person desires only 5 hrs of family social time and 5 hrs of non-familial social time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 06:40 PM
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Women file the paperwork, they’re not the cause of the divorce. Men get equitable custody at statistically the same rate women do, but majority of fathers don’t file for custody so that’s why the numbers lean to women as the default parent. Whoever was the highest earner pays alimony, that’s not a gendered thing. You can very easily avoid this by marrying someone who makes more than you or signing a prenup. None of this supports your overall point here?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 06:33 PM
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Dude that’s way too much time. That cannot be what most people “are wired for”.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 06:28 PM
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20 hours a week? That’s a part time job dude, not a friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 06:19 PM
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I mean, you have lots of options if you expand to gay men. But you see how your dating potential didn’t grow by simply ignoring sexuality, preferences, and desired relationship outcomes that aren’t necessarily aligned with the group of people wanting sex from you? Being wanted for a quick fuck isn’t the win y’all think it is 🤦🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 06:07 PM
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I can engineer a situation in which that is the case. But why should society change to serve your personal failings?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 04:37 PM
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Hence my original comment: casually admits he misses the days domestic abuse was normalized
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 04:16 PM
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I did start with that. I don't care. I want an incentive structure that heavily punishes leaving the relationship. My point exactly. That’s a fucked opinion dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 04:07 PM
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the social ostracisation towards the partner that leaves the relationship and make it bad enough for people to choose death over divorce The reason both of those things were done away with was due to growing concerns on domestic violence and abusive situations. Do you not get that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 03:59 PM
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casually admits he misses the days domestic abuse was normalized
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 03:52 PM
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No, it’s a very accurate analogy. The fact that you don’t get that is entirely the problem here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 03:31 AM
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Then back to my original point, stop belittling other people’s actual depression. Like any disorder it requires treatment and medications to accommodate. Same way a disabled person needs a wheelchair or walking canes. What you’re doing here is the equivalent of telling that dude in a wheelchair to just get up and walk it off. Do you see how fucked that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 03:25 AM
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You’re describing sadness, not clinical depression. Please get your vocab straight before you try and call someone else dumb 🤣💀
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 03:14 AM
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Medical science doesn't need my opinion or yours—depression is a clinically recognized disorder with established diagnostic criteria. Dismissing this as 'gatekeeping' while downplaying a serious condition that affects millions isn't just incorrect—it's deeply harmful. Much like you can't 'walk off' a broken leg or 'think away' your diabetes, depression requires actual medical intervention to manage. Please educate yourself before spreading more harmful misinformation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 03:06 AM
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I'm describing depression. Nope you’re not, just dramatizing usual sad feelings to pretend you feel powerful and in control. Being anti-science is pretty weak hon 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 02:31 AM
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No, because the societal default for sex focuses on a guy’s completion. So for most men sexual intercourse is better than masturbation, 9/10 times. That’s not the same for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 02:28 AM
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It’s just something you get over, like a phase. What you’re describing is sadness, not depression. Depression is an actual mental disorder that’s not “just a phase”.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 02:24 AM
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You’re complaining about dudes not competing for the women you prefer?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 02:17 AM
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Nah my sexual needs are met by a vibrator and copious amounts of erotica. Much more reliable for pleasure than men + casual sex lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 01:46 AM
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Neither Bill Clinton nor Barack Obama would’ve won against Trump. Mainly because they legally couldn’t run for another term.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 01:28 AM
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Most people are who depressed explains the man who does not understand depression or mental illness
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 01:25 AM
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I wouldn’t be bragging about your understanding of “female nature”...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 10:32 PM
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Yet your post didn’t specify anything about the women.. nothing about their posting history or commenting habits?..
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 06:54 PM
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It wouldn’t, because the same men would still be unapproached and bothering women irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 06:48 PM
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Are they randomly commenting this out of nowhere or are they responding to a dumbass PPD post claiming that all women want men? Context matters. For example, me standing in the middle of the street shouting that I don’t like cheese pizza would be insane. My saying that in a conversation about what pizza we should order is perfectly normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 06:46 PM
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You’re married to this fantasy where average women are pumped and dumped by Chad. That’s not happening. Majority of women are not participating in casual sex, non-monogamous sexual relations or monogamous fwbs. Let go of that paranoia dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 11:15 PM
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some women ffs
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 04:54 PM
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Your dating prospects would open up if you stopped thinking of women as some monolith. Just fyi.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 04:37 PM
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No, you’re too busy spewing it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 02:57 AM
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Yeah, totally. That’s how it worked /s
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 01:38 AM
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They don’t have testosterone they don’t experience peek horny like guys do. no one tell him what ovulation is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 01:25 AM
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Yeah surely this has nothing to do with heads of industry, club promoters and television producers only hiring men for like decades 🤦🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 01:22 AM
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No, because every time this topic gets brought up myself and countless other women reexplain that no, we don’t give a fuck. Then men are all up in the comments calling us liars, virtue signalers and explaining why we’re clearly too dumb to know our internal thoughts and feelings on the topic. These men don’t put any weight into a women’s opinion, they just assume that because men care so much about penis size that women must too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 01:18 AM
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Yeah, you’re too busy spewing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 12:03 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 11:31 PM
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Guinevere Turner’s a lesbian. Has been since long before she wrote that screenplay lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 11:30 PM
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The obvious reason for the question being asked of men was as a point of comparison. Your reading comprehension is worrisome.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 11:26 PM
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asked why he likes being a man, wrote paragraphs about what he doesn’t like about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 10:06 PM
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I have my own business dickhead. Because I don’t care about ambition at all To be clear when women, like myself, mention our ambition we’re not saying it because we think it impresses dudes or it’s what y’all look for. We state it to point out that our work, research, career, whatever we’ve devoted our life to is our priority. It narrows down a lot of dudes right out the gate who can’t respect that. Like you, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 09:28 PM
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how is this progressive? It’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 09:15 PM
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I know she’s talking about climbing the corporate ladder to a do-nothing middle management job that gets laid off the moment a recession hits. I’m not, but go off sis ✌🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 09:13 PM
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I think you’re missing the point. Women in larger and larger numbers are choosing no relationship over bad relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 08:55 PM
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It absolutely is still done.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 08:41 PM
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Go tell these men that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 08:12 PM
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It’s funny how most people are still coupled up despite being closer to the middle of those. Maybe different people really do have different preferences? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 07:08 PM
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Are you okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 06:57 PM
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But above comment doesn’t seem to be denying any of that..?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 06:57 PM
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Dude, what denial are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 06:49 PM
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I think you’re overestimating how many women actually want that tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 06:46 PM
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I don’t think my comments reflect my empathy on the subject matter, because that hasn’t been the topic of our conversation. I don’t think empathy is exclusive to self-beneficial things. I do think that societal accommodations are limited in scope, but that’s beside the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 06:42 PM
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No, pretty sure the same raige-baiters will continue their gig. I don’t see their audience growing any.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:59 PM
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Except this crash is caused by women not being interested in dating. That’s not going to magically change as men get worse and worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:58 PM
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That doesn’t change anything about my previous comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:54 PM
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Women’s dating woes aren’t societal problems tho. They’re interpersonal, same as men’s. The only people I see complaining about dating and making it a societal issue is men on these subs. Literally turning the “loneliness epidemic” into the “male loneliness epidemic”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:50 PM
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Sure. But I fail to see how that’s “inflation” and then a “crash”. That just seems like healthy development to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:48 PM
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Yeah. That’s a perfect parallel to what happens with women’s preferences. In this very post/comment section for example. You share your personal opinion on the internet and this is what you get. If you have the freedom to share your opinion, then they have the freedom to share theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:46 PM
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Can you not recognize the difference between equal rights and dating woes?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:41 PM
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How would you describe what OP referred to as that? Some men’s dating troubles.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:39 PM
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Those aren’t the same. Preferences used to choose who you want to date are not the same thing as boundaries and compromises within a pre-established relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:37 PM
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Again, you were also recommending racist subs. Personally I don’t use Reddit subs as valid evidence in a debate, but when that’s all you brought to the table- I had to play the game at your level
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:34 PM
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Because if women like me stop commenting than it’s just an echo chamber of dudes like you telling other dudes what women are like and really think. This is my community service to fellow women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:27 PM
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Explain how you see this happening..
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:26 PM
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Upwards of 70% are divorces are initiated by women as well. Filed by, the divorce papers are most often filed by the unhappy wives who are tired of trying on behalf of both partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:23 PM
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Also elder Gen Z and this comment describes my observed experience as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:21 PM
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Plus if you've even managed to alienate a certain proportion of any race from your sub , you cannot be healthy for discourses regarding most topics in my opinion. Wow the irony. That’s exactly how I feel about subs like this one, where men like you have no problem defending their bigotry and disrespecting entire groups of people on petty stereotypes!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:19 PM
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I’m just hoping I come across something that will make me feel better But whenever we share our honest opinions about how much dick size doesn’t fucking matter to most women, we’re called liars, virtue signalers and essentially labeled too dumb to recognize our internal thoughts and feelings on the subject. See how this whole exercise is futile and ineffective?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:17 PM
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That was a direct quote from the actual article, not my personal opinion. I have no issue with the designed height of the overhead bins, but as a woman on the shorter side I do absolutely need assistance from taller people around me whenever I travel to put my bag up there. That doesn’t make me a “damsel in distress”, I’m just short.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:15 PM
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I know a lot of brown women that participate over there, again not to discredit your lived experience, just to offer another perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:13 PM
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First, the rage bait women on social media, the validation-seekers, are not representative of women overall. You seem to have issues with how women selectively avoid relationships that aren’t compatible, complain about relationships they’ve entered that are compatible and somehow also have issues with women leaving relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:12 PM
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FDS has that exact reputation from my perspective, which isn’t helped by the piss-poor moderation on that sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:05 PM
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Dude there is a clear difference between talking about dick size is a neutral manner and the porn-rot you write in your comments. No one’s consenting to that, stop replying to people’s normal comments with these sexually graphic fantasies of yours. Make your own comment, or stfu.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:01 PM
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Genuine question, if you’re “rightfully depressed” by this, how does it make yourselves feel better to bring this topic up all the fucking time?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 04:59 PM
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That doesn’t relate to my last comment about societal male default and the harm that does to women, but go off sis.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 04:56 PM
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Sure, but don’t you see why it’s important to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 04:54 PM
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They are as racist as womennocensor. In my opinion wnc has far better moderating for that shit, but I’m not going to discount your lived experience and say that sub has never been racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 04:54 PM
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says the man who gave no arguments besides comments from other racist subs
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 02:59 PM
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No, you don’t think. You feel. Go feel your feelings somewhere else 💕
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 02:55 PM
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🤦🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 02:54 PM
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They are as racist as the other subs you cited earlier as “evidence” supporting your attempted argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 02:51 PM
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What do you think the “no censor” part means? There’s literally a pinned post specifically talking to dudes who think too much about their dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 02:49 PM
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So why do you get to use FDS as your “evidence” in this argument and then get to ignore a less severe sub that doesn’t support your argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 02:26 PM
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Dude gtfo of my comments with your pornographic shit. No one wants to read that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 02:20 PM
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I’m sorry, you cited female dating strategy and you have an issue with askwomennocensor ??
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 02:20 PM
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Do you not feel more filled up and does that not feel better? No. There’s literally a capacity limit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 02:15 PM
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Check out askwomennocensor. Majority of women don’t care about dick size.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 02:14 PM
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So one woman who already was a size queen agreed with you.. and everyone else disagreed. And you took away that you were right in your obsession with dick size?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 02:05 PM
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Yes. A bruised cervix hurts like hell. Y’all need to stop obsessing over size because it’s not the positive you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 02:04 PM
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Not above commenter but you clearly agree with societally assigned roles by gender. That goes against freedom of choice and opportunity that feminism clearly advocates for.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 01:05 PM
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Here’s where you say: “as a woman with a vagina I can say it is” OR “wow as a dude with a penis I sure feel dumb for mansplaining what sex feels like to someone with a vagina”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 01:01 PM
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No it’s not. As someone with a vagina I can confidently tell you it’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:59 PM
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Yes and most men aren’t “extremely endowed”. Your point is?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:58 PM
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Those studies are on verbal communication and body language irl. You’re wrong about there being any difference for written communication lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:54 PM
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No, the meeting just took the average male height as the default. Same way car companies just used male sized crash test dummies and as a result more women die for automobile accidents. It doesn’t have to be intentional to be harmful.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:53 PM
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I am a man, I am used to male communication Dude, men and women write in written communication the exact same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:51 PM
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They can only be achieved by more well endowed men No. It’s a matter of position and angle. The curvature of a penis is more important to that than being “well-endowed”. In most cases the precision of a slightly smaller package is easier to produce those “a spot” or cervical orgasms.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:48 PM
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No. Just like “use a ramp” when you’re a person in a wheelchair isn’t a preference or a judgement. Having a micro-penis is literally a medical disability- and like most disabilities you use aids to perform daily tasks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:44 PM
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You mean the article where she says, The overhead bin is too tall for most women by design.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:39 PM
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Neither those sounds like preference? The secondary advice I’ve only seen given to actual medically diagnosed micro-penises, tho
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:37 PM
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All of that is mechanical and roughly sound from a physics standpoint. Explain to me how you’re deducing women’s opinion based on the comparison of advice given? Sure, if you ignore the advice women give tovmen who are well endowed versus the advice they give to men who arent.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:34 PM
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Yeah and we’ve debated that research with opposing studies of our own. None of that is in this post hon. All you have is “trust me bro, I’m a man who knows what it’s like living in a female body”.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:30 PM
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No. My cervix has literally no interest in that. Mad respect for size queen up there but she’s a magical unicorn, not the average women with the average sized vagina lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:28 PM
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To use your own words, Your beliefs are not even remotely grounded in reality. Your argument is just " trust me bro . Im a woman man who speaks for women All research is vehemently against you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:26 PM
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Yeah.. that’s not accurate lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:24 PM
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What advice do you think women are giving to men who are “well endowed”?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:24 PM
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Or it actually doesn’t matter? Do you see how circular your “reasoning” is? Think logically bro
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:18 PM
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Women who admit they’re size queens aren’t just being picky—they actually understand their bodies. They’ve been with a guy who can reach deep spots like the A-spot, G-spot, and even the cervix—things smaller guys often can’t hit with the same intensity or fullness. So bigger guys can achieve those orgasms much more frequently than smaller ones . Stop mansplaining women’s bodies to women. Yes we know our bodies. No size doesn’t matter the way you think it does. Yes my best sexual experiences happ…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:17 PM
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Why are you assuming someone struggling lifting a suitcase is faking it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:15 PM
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I’d argue the opposite actually. In this economy it’s much more reasonable to find an equal participating partner than expect one person to provide everything. That’s the elitist and shallow behavior ime.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:14 PM
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No, people are different, with different strengths and weaknesses. I agree we should allow individuals to follow the skills they’re naturally inclined to. That’s just not gendered in nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:11 PM
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The average man doesn’t work physically intensive jobs tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:08 PM
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if men behaved like women you wouldn't be here typing this today. What do you mean by that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:04 PM
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Why are those roles gendered tho? You’re talking about communal support and being a contributing member of society, there’s no need to gender that participation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:59 AM
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Why are those roles gendered tho? You’re talking about communal support and being a contributing member of society, there’s no need to gender that participation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:58 AM
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All of this. I’ll add that this doesn’t just affect women. I’d wager half the issues men bring up on this sub are because of antiquated gender roles where men are expected to be unemotional and stoic, be the tough protector and provider. Those things may come naturally to some people, but others feel belittled by these gross expectations that they truly don’t need to fulfill for our modern world.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:38 AM
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You personally choosing to do more masculine things or feminine things is totally valid. Pre-assigned societal roles given to literal children and then giving each gender only half a toolbox of skills to succeed in life, that’s oppressive and fucked up. That’s what “gender roles are harmful” means. The “roles” part of the term refers to the pre-established traits we push onto kids and the harsh/limiting expectations we put on adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:30 AM
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Look up division of domestic labor stats, you’d be shocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:22 AM
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Those are two drastically different lifestyles that aren’t in competition with eachother. They both fulfill a niche if you will, with a completely different “target audience”.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:03 AM
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No I watch what women do and it also aligns with what I said above, for the majority at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 04:08 AM
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Which I already said before.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 08:47 PM
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See, you’re agreeing with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 08:12 PM
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I think you’re missing the overall point of my comments. Men have the privilege of not depending on their partner when they take on the physical hardship of having kids. They aren’t asked or expected to put their careers on hold to make a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 07:05 PM
3

College and university is essentially the same thing. You finish high school and then apply to get into college/university. The public ones tend to be easier to get into, but they cost less. The private ones are way more selective and more expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 06:48 PM
33

And that’s why we say men need to raise their standards. Y’all aren’t checking for compatibility, so we clearly have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 06:46 PM
37

Well yeah. Do you get along with every person you work with? No, you likely are fine with most, have one or two you actually enjoying talking to, and maybe 1-2 that get on your nerves. That’s true for humans in general. You don’t get along with most humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 06:41 PM
60

I want someone who shares my lifestyle, ambitions + values. this doesn’t have to be someone with a college degree, tho it often is If I were a woman wanting a family + kids, I’d know that my career/income/health insurance would be taking a hit for about 1.5 years per kid. These women reasonably choose a partner they know can support them during this time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 06:24 PM
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Replace feminist with civil rights advocate and you see how stupid this post is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 05:19 PM
5

Do you know how often men on here are mad at women for not participating in casual sex? Not fucking them? All of it is dumb external judgment
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 01:06 PM
1

Women are shamed for both having sex and not having it. Thank the sexist gender norms where men have to have sex to gain value and women lose value having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 12:34 PM
3

You’re confusing casual dating with relationships. Yes you might have a season of first dates, where you’re on the apps and going out with different people once maybe twice. That stops when you find the person you actually like.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 04:51 AM
4

Only if she had large boobs to begin with. Small ones stay perky.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 04:49 AM
18

Well stop that. A bad relationship is a waste of time and energy. What’s worse is potentially missing out on the right relationship because you’re wasting time in a crappy one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 04:46 AM
27

Monogamy only requires the consent and participation of the people inside the relationship. People meet, they fall in love, some get married, pop out a few babies, others travel with their spouse or get a dog. All of that has happened and continues to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 04:32 AM
3

Yeah but if you wanna have a LTR, you’d most likely you’d have to choose. Paradox of choice doesn’t have to result in anxiety, just hesitation. That’s not how relationships work dude. People aren’t out here comparing options A, B and C. They go on a date with A, they’re incompatible. So they go out with B, there’s no chemistry. A few more letters and they meet G who’s a great fit and really funny and they fall in love.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 04:16 AM
26

And look at the angry responses I'm getting. the tamest comment section I’ve seen on PPD 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 04:12 AM
14

Women age faster than men. No, men definitely age the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 04:11 AM
1

you have weird fantasies
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 02:08 AM
-3

Not last time I checked? But it’s been a few hours since I changed my tampon, so I’ll keep you updated if anything changes 👍🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 01:09 AM
1

No I understood what you meant. You changed your argument to claim false victory. Aka, shifting your goalposts. If that’s what you gotta do to feel good, go ahead 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 12:39 AM
1

Ahh, so you’re shifting your goal posts. Got it 👌🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 12:23 AM
1

Your emoji is a bullseye but your previous comments were making an argument that’s clearly been disproven. Do you just like that emoji for aesthetic value?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 12:09 AM
1

🤢
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 11:48 PM
1

Last time I checked
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 11:39 PM
0

the audacity of men on this sub will never stop astounding me 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 11:31 PM
1

oh my god 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 11:29 PM
1

I’m not saying you blame women. I’m saying you’re wrong and you’re prescribing your preconceived opinions to us. Which is fine if you want to do that for you. But yeah I’m going to call you out when you’re publicly speaking about this, and on my comment nonetheless, spreading your biased misinformation. Because you’re actively perpetuating harmful misunderstandings that men here on this sub have for women. So maybe, just maybe, when you see a woman on this sub speaking for women? Try not to mans…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 11:21 PM
1

what really happens most of the time is it's kindness and power. No. Again you’re wrong. Clearly you’re not going to acknowledge other ideas than your preconditioned biases, so let’s call it here. ✌🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 11:13 PM
3

I’m well over 30, when do you think all that’s gonna kick in?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 11:07 PM
4

No, they don’t. But go ahead and mansplain women’s preferences to me!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 11:00 PM
1

…doesn’t have palpable power. Then it’s a great thing “power” isn’t something modern women are looking for in a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:59 PM
2

It’s as silly as what you’re trying to do. Except I’ve had those personal conversations from woman to woman, about what we’re attracted to, looking for, those pesky traits we wish didn’t make us giggle like a school girl. Can you cite any conversations with a variety of women like that? Where she told insight into her personal process for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:55 PM
3

As a base interest, yes. You make a girl laugh, she will be remembering you and thinking about you hours from then. If we’re talking active interest in dating, most are going to need a bit more compatibility information on top of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:52 PM
1

And something women more often than not end up being attracted to in men is power and status. And I am telling you that is not descriptive of the majority of women. Yet you don’t take my word for it? I’m just supposed to take yours tho. .
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:43 PM
1

It’s not inherently related to sex. It also applies to romantic attraction. Any stimuli that triggers a warm cozy feeling can get this going.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:39 PM
0

For you, totally. For myself and lots of women the physical attraction part comes after the other stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:38 PM
1

What do you want me to do? I’ve given as much evidence here as you have. You seem to think that simply saying “uh yeah it is” is a valid argument. So that’s the response you recieve. I could claim observed behaviors of women. But why would I present the very “evidence” I’ve mocked you for?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:37 PM
2

That’s incorrect though. Because lots of people started out platonic and then found attraction for eachother. Like 90% of the couples I know met that way. You’re not a woman, so I totally get that this is something you can’t really comprehend, but damn a personality will have us thinking a potato of a man is the most attractive thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:35 PM
1

Responsive means responding to interactive factors. There has to be an intentional stimuli that your system then responds to. Please do your research before you call other people confused 🤦🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:34 PM
4

You must be in your 20s. By the time the biological clock starts ticking loudly, (almost) all women march in the same direction. Oh sweetie 🤣💀
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:31 PM
1

You’re claiming expert inside knowledge into internal thought processes of women, and I’m the one participating in “bad faith”? 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:31 PM
-4

Key word: includes. It’s multiple attraction factors, some external, some internal. Including some that are interactive. That’s not primary attraction is physical.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:30 PM
2

Oh really? You were just speaking so confidently about how women perceive men and what sorts of things factor into their internal decisions, I just assumed. My bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:25 PM
0

Nope, not even true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:23 PM
1

The casual assumption that you were speaking logically and I wasn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:22 PM
1

Okay, so that’s your personal opinion as a woman in today’s society?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:21 PM
2

I was also speaking logically. But love the casual sexism 👌🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:17 PM
0

Depends on the person, but generally it’s a combination of cute smile, kind heart, makes her laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:15 PM
1

Yeah that’s just not true lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:15 PM
-1

That’s not power that she’s attracted to then. It’s the kindness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:10 PM
3

makes up a quote 🤦🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:09 PM
-1

For the love of god, go google what this term means that’s so clearly confusing you. It is not my job as a woman to educate you. I’ve given you the fishing rod, go fish.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 09:59 PM
1

The strong don’t need to be kind to survive by definition. They do. Literally from a biological standpoint you do. That also doesn’t mean power is synonymous for free will.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 09:53 PM
-2

doubles down on his unawareness of how women work
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 09:51 PM
8

You’re just equating “power” with “free-will”.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 09:43 PM
-12

tells me he doesn’t understand responsive attraction 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 09:42 PM
37

No, woman’s primary reason for being attracted to men isn’t power. Kindness is not weakness. Have a great day ✌🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 09:31 PM
10

I’m deeply curious about this topic, mainly because I’m ADHD and was misdiagnosed for 25 years because the diagnosis criteria was based on a group of prepubescent boys in the 80s. Academics literally call us “lost girls” because for whatever reason our symptoms were more internal or we were “better at masking”. But a lot of the points brought up in these discussions about schools not being neurodiverse friendly I relate to so hard. I can’t help but wonder if it’s a gender issue or a neurotypical…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 08:38 PM
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Can you read? Watching porn =\= porn brain rot
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 08:13 PM
2

No, it’s a very real problem in society. But clearly you disagree, so let’s leave it at that ✌🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 07:55 PM
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So please go in-depth of how my imagination of a porn scene is different than watching porn. wtf? How does this relate to my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 07:54 PM
1

That’s not actually true. There’s an affordable housing shortage. Businesses make more money building high end luxury condos and using those expensive and empty units as a tax write-off each year. Very few developers are investing in affordable housing because of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 07:42 PM
1

So that’s the buying market, but how’s the rental market? Can’t speak for the UK, but in the US rent prices have increased drastically across the board, thanks to private equity inflating comparable real estate values.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 07:27 PM
1

Okay, so right away your clear ambitions and goals is a positive in your favor. Yeah you’re facing a bit of that underdog hustle right now, but you’re moving forward with intention and that’s a quality most people, women included, admire.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 06:53 PM
3

Income stagnation + inflation. Followed closely by private equity investments in the real estate and rental markets.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 06:45 PM
1

Well what are your goals romance/relationship/ life wise?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 06:44 PM
11

Men are predisposed to satisfy women Male violence against women stats would beg to differ. . .
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 06:35 PM
1

Their most effective strategy was conditioning men into putting them on a pedestal. The objectification of woman as a prize and an accessory is man’s invention.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 06:29 PM
-4

Did you read the article? Because she’s not arguing we should hate men. She’s grappling with how to move forward and trust men in the wake of the MeToo movement, Harvey Weinstein and other news stories of the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 06:27 PM
3

I don’t think OP understands what slavery is 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 06:18 PM
2

Even when it’s light and done well you can see it on the skin. Like an evened skin tone, redness only in the cheeks. Glossier lips. Dewey skin. I’ve noticed a lot of men have no clue what makeup actually looks like and then they’re shocked when they see someone out of makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 04:03 PM
2

and only 13% have used one within the last year.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 01:43 PM
3

It is very obvious when makeup is applied. Watch some more makeup tutorials and you’ll learn the signs too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 11:43 AM
-3

None of that is true 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 11:38 AM
4

Well none of it is unconditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:26 PM
8

None of this is true, nor backed up by statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:12 PM
0

It’s truly not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:02 PM
1

Then why do women prefer men who are stronger and taller even though those factors are pretty much irrelevant to survival now? They don’t. That’s my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 09:16 PM
2

That’s your perception. It doesn’t align with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 09:06 PM
1

Money is a finite resource. It’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 08:52 PM
2

It actually makes women less hypergamous, if we want to play with your hypothetical. Women earning more means we’re not reliant on men for survival so given our own income and support we have far more freedom to choose “lesser successful” men that we genuinely love.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 08:42 PM
4

It is when you forget to turn off your misogynist goggles.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 08:37 PM
3

That’s false actually. Married women who have no desire/plans/ability to start a family are held back from opportunities, promotions, pay raises because of inherent bias that women of that age will be struck suddenly by maternal desire to reproduce. Your personal bias as a manager of employees plays into every decision you make. And statistically, men are given these opportunities because they’re deemed “more reliable”.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 08:36 PM
1

Do you ever get tired of the misogyny?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 08:33 PM
3

Yeah that’s not what this post is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 08:33 PM
2

No it’s not. Why would that be an issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 08:27 PM
2

Why are you assuming I make less than you? You’re not even capable of writing a coherent Reddit comment, and you think you get paid more? 💀🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 08:27 PM
0

However, they get mad when the avarage man makes more than the average woman. LOL I’m not the one who misunderstood the post hon 😘
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 08:21 PM
5

You could try phrasing your sentence in a different way? If someone’s tried multiple times to read your sentence and still aren’t grasping your intention, the issues in your writing of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 08:20 PM
2

No. Statistically, the majority of households have dual incomes, both partners working full time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 08:19 PM
2

If the majority of men earn more than the majority of women, because of the gender pay gap, then statistically majority of women will find themselves in relationships where the man makes more. That’s not a choice, that’s just statistical fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 08:17 PM
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if so many people hold a personal stance immediately contradictory to what they preach societally, its conflicting and hypocritical No, I read it correctly the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 08:16 PM
2

Just because a woman is choosing her job/education doesn’t mean she’s not rebelling against familial and societal pressures. Like your anecdotal evidence doesn’t disprove mine. It aligns with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 08:09 PM
2

Dude men do all of that shit every single day on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 08:05 PM
4

But they’re not preaching it societally? Social norms are inherited not chosen. Your personal preferences are chosen.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 08:03 PM
3

when was the last time you heard a woman being told that she should find a husband instead of going to college? Literally my entire life 🤣💀
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:56 PM
1

Pointing out behavior isn’t shitting on women. The manner in which y’all do it on posts like this, is shitting on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:52 PM
1

I’m the sole breadwinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:51 PM
7

Gender roles dont exist anymore. Great, then why are y’all bitching about being providers?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:49 PM
7

Preety much in most developed countries leave amount is standardised Not in the US lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:48 PM
3

Why would I? This isn’t my post nor my argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:42 PM
5

Because the women that want men to be the providers won’t be working full time to make that equal amount.. you get that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:39 PM
10

Well what other reason would these men have to talk to us? They clearly don’t give a shit about our actual thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:35 PM
4

It’s about equal pay dude. It’s that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:29 PM
14

If women outearn men, there will be no "provider men" But no one’s arguing for women to “outearn” men. They literally just want equal pay, legally. Explain how that’s contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:28 PM
9

No shit we live in a society. How is that related to our previous comments?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:27 PM
0

women wanting their partners to spend money AND not make more than them is everything but logical.. That’s not what the post says.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:25 PM
6

No, that’s a you issue. One is about equal rights on a legal basis. The other is personal preference for your own lifestyle and family. Mostly everyone is able to hold both these ideas at the same time..
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:23 PM
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I hate this subs need to validate women for no reason this isn’t a bad thing. That’s funny, I hate this subs need to shit on women for having normal human opinions. Guess we’re both suffering here :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:21 PM
7

Which is?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:12 PM
12

Will you stop making this about some political issue instead of focusing or straight up ignoring the post? Just trying to understand OPs contradictory post here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:12 PM
4

No. Because someone can advocate for equal pay regardless of gender, and also want to be a stay at home mother in her personal life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:11 PM
6

They rather date a guy who’s already successful and established(hence dating men 1-4 years older then themselves) and benefit off that than make their own success. Speak for yourself, hon.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:03 PM
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Are you conflating personal relationship preferences with complaints about the sociopolitical gender wage gap?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:44 PM
6

Teachers aren’t setting the curriculum.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:39 PM
2

Or just don’t ask women questions when you already have the “correct answers” in your head 🤦🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:27 PM
2

So why do you get to say “incorrect” and disqualify others comments based on your own perception and we don’t? I’m starting to wonder if this cognitive dissonance is a “male behavior” you’re exhibiting 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:16 PM
7

It’s "did they even read my question properly and answer it". Except you left out half your qualifications in your og post and added them later in edits. So it wasn’t people “not reading your question” it was you not writing it well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:14 PM
5

So here’s where I pull a you and say “incorrect” because from my observed experience that’s not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:09 PM
9

This feels like homework assigned by a teacher who hates his job and just wants to fail the whole class lol 🤣💯
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:05 PM
4

Do you not know men that do the same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:04 PM
2

meaning as a whole the "industry" has a female power bias. It doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:03 PM
3

Women are over represented in the department of education, and so with their systemic power Women are more likely to be teachers or school administrators, but district admin, board of educators and dept of education are more likely to be men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 05:54 PM
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Violence is a male behavior for example. It’s a male symptom. The root of it is emotions, which women are also emotional creatures- lots of who also act out aggressively and violently when not regulating their emotions. But that’s not biological, is sociological based on how we were raised by society to behave “appropriately” for our gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 05:43 PM
1

I wasn’t suggesting that diagnosis doesn’t play a strong part overall. I was just referencing the studies I’ve read on the subject that led me to say “women are more prone to depression”.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 05:41 PM
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I mean I don’t agree that your examples are exclusive to male behaviors. I did my best to come up with examples for women, but clearly it’s not what you’re looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 05:40 PM
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I don’t think those are gendered traits tho? Like immaturity, irresponsibility, dishonesty, intelligence- none of that is inherently gendered or exclusive to one over the other. Both men and women display those behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 05:33 PM
5

There’s a hormonal component to depression that research suggests we’re more prone to the disorder. Like a lot of us experience PMDD, even if it’s misdiagnosed as just usual period blues.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 05:32 PM
3

Do you have specific examples of these “points of moral inferiority” you’re looking for?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 05:29 PM
2

Women are more prone to depression. edit hormonally, like PMDD/PPD. The “sisterhood” you reference can be commonly used to force conformity and ostracize abnormality. In the realm of dating I think women that desire kids can easily pressure themselves into settling for the first okay guy rather than waiting for a genuine partner. Women are also more likely to stay in an abusive or toxic relationship, empathy is one hell of a double edged sword. Can’t think of a fifth one. (I’m sure they exist bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 05:25 PM
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says the dude obsessed with dicks
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 03:40 PM
11

Dude, that’s literally a daily occurrence being a woman on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 03:30 PM
20

No you may not send me a picture of your dick
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 03:26 PM
17

Yes, I literally have. That’s how I know that anything over 5” is not getting entry to my body. Some of us aren’t talking out of our ass. Most of us have actual evidence, experience, and knowledge on our side.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 03:20 PM
25

Unfortunately my carpentry job doesn’t take “girl inches” as a unit of measurement 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 03:17 PM
12

Yeah more than 9 6 is not ideal
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 03:06 PM
3

Why do you think so low of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 02:56 PM
5

Listen to me so closely if they want to get with a woman, ever. we do not. give a fuck. about your dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 02:46 PM
6

Dude if your delusion was real then dick pics would be the red pill secret to getting laid. They’re not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 02:41 PM
7

and will improve a womans attraction to you on sight alone. They won’t 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 02:37 PM
3

Not glossing over anything. A minority of women can orgasm from penetration alone. But the above sexual examples given are representative of female pleasure per our anatomy, not the magic contribution of a penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 02:30 PM
2

That’s fair ✌🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 02:05 PM
5

Yeah men aren’t cavemen who are slave to their sex drive. Pretty sure most people evolved beyond that centuries ago?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 02:01 PM
6

Some people missed the memo, but Chat GPT is not a reliable source of information 🤦🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 01:59 PM
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Chatgpt is coded on 570Gb of data . It knows more than you or anyone here Oh sweetie 🥴🤣 bless your heart
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 01:45 PM
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None of that is logical hon.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 01:43 PM
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So you’ve spoken to a niche overview of admittedly adventurous people and are attributing their opinions to everyone, because?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 01:43 PM
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I’m sorry, do you think Chat GPT is “reality”?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 01:42 PM
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Why do you keep commenting Chat GPT posts?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 01:39 PM
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you break up with a guy because you won’t have sex with him because he has a small dick, that’s the reason. Explain to me how you reach this conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 01:37 PM
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So you observe what size of dick women fuck on vacation? Tell me how do you gather that data?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 01:34 PM
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It’s true in the sense that when women say it, that’s what they mean. Oh you’re clairvoyant?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 01:32 PM
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never believe what women say, always look for what a small group of women do and attribute that behavior universally to all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 01:28 PM
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Again Chat GPT is not research. According to actual data, majority of women do not orgasm from penetration alone. The minority of women that care about penis size does correlate with the small group of women who can tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 01:23 PM
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No, I’ve had a higher libido than any of my partners. Also can reach multiple whole body orgasms without penetration. None of this is unique to me. Maybe, just maybe, you should stop mansplaining women’s pleasure to a group of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 01:20 PM
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Chat GPT isn’t a reliable source 🤦🏼‍♀️ It certainly doesn’t disprove so many women disagreeing with every single claim you’ve made here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 01:17 PM
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Not glossing over anything. In those examples you gave the female body was present, right? So: the magic is in the female anatomy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 01:01 PM
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Stimulating the fornices leads to deeper, whole body orgasms relative to those derived from external clitoral stimulation. Those whole body orgasms are possible from other stimulation, the magic is in the female anatomy, not the penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 12:58 PM
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No. They don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 12:41 PM
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Dude if a woman says you’re bad in bed, she means you’re selfish and didn’t try to make her cum.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 12:35 PM
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“Bad in bed” is literally synonymous and a euphemism for “he has a small penis.” No it isn’t 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 12:27 PM
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But you’ve presented no research. You’ve just denied every answer that doesn’t agree with your preconceived opinions on the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 12:12 PM
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Why did you ask a question to women specifically only to deny every answer we’ve given you? What was the point here? Because clearly it wasn’t about engaging in a good faith discussion on this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 12:09 PM
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No, it doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 12:01 PM
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No. They don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:57 AM
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google: what do kegels do?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:55 AM
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Why do these men ask questions to women just to deny our answers and argue? 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:54 AM
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Kegels and pelvic floor exercises affect the muscular strength of the walls of a vaginal canal- it does not affect length or depth.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:52 AM
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I do not get paid to explain basic grammar to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:51 AM
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No. Some women can. Not all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:48 AM
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Sorry, using cars as a metaphor for women is often considered objectification. Why is it different now? 💀 you need to go and ask for refund from your primary education sir. I do not get paid to explain basic grammar to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:47 AM
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Beds only come in a few set sizes. As do vaginas and penises. The size differentiation between beds is actually far greater than that of penises and vaginas.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:46 AM
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You’ve already denied and invalidated all the research done on vaginal length sir. You already disregarded scientific principle for your personal anecdotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:45 AM
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Was size the main topic of that conversation?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:43 AM
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dudes confusing a metaphor for objectification 🤣💀
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:43 AM
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If you’re describing a car crash you were in, and you mention that it was an SUV that hit your sedan.. that’s not a conversation about car size ffs 🤦🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:42 AM
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One limited study gathering qualitative data is not enough to make the conclusion you’ve come to. Stop thinking with your penis. It’s not that important to the rest of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:41 AM
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Do you have an upper limit and a lower limit to the size of bed that will fit in your bedroom? Would you say you actively care about bed size above all else? Or just that you recognize the physical limitations of an enclosed space and thought about it once before?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:39 AM
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That’s literally discussing health issues with your friends. A woman talking about pain she’s experiencing =\= a conversation about men’s penis size. Your penis is not even close to the most important thing for most people out there. Stop centering it in every aspect of conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:38 AM
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There are so many things you haven’t heard of hon that are in fact scientific reality. These things have absolutely been measured, studied and documented. If you have half the care about vaginas that you do about men’s penises, you’d already know this shit 🤦🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:34 AM
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You're the one talking about it A reasonable assumption if you’re blind or illiterate 🤦🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:33 AM
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Look up average vaginal depth for those corresponding countries hon. You’d be shocked at how average penis size and vaginal length pair up. 95% of women don’t give a shit about your penis. It’s a sexual tool, but it is not the epitome of sex and pleasure the way men think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:30 AM
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That’s not even close to what they wrote bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:28 AM
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Women care about size as much as men. No, we don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:28 AM
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Men care about penises. A minority of women do. Your penis is not the focus of sex. Sex is not limited to PIV. Anything over 6” is not getting entrance to most vaginas. Just like penises come in a variety of sizes, so do vaginas. The average depth of a vaginal canal is 4-5” deep. Isn’t it interesting that the average penis size is 4.5”?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:25 AM
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Most women who claim not to be able to orgasm from penetration alone haven’t been with a skilled man It has nothing to do with skill and everything to do with the individual vagina. skilled man who is long enough to stimulate skilled man =\= longest length It’s almost always a larger man who enabled women who can orgasm from penetration alone to experience it for the first time. No it’s not. Please stop writing garbage like this for naive men on this sub to read and assume. Believe it or not, yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:22 AM
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No, women genuinely don’t. Your penis is not that important to us, shocking I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:17 AM
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Only 41% of women have ever used a dating app, and only 13% have used one within the last year. The few that do reasonably like dating apps specifically for the visual information and shallow aesthetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:07 AM
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No. They don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 01:56 AM
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is to take care of the way you look/present yourself. No. Part of being a good partner is giving your partner the space to practice self-care for them. No part of it should be “presenting yourself” to the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 11:16 PM
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That still doesn’t explain anything here..
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 11:09 PM
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Somehow that source leaves me more confused. Is falling for sociopaths a common occurrence in your mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 11:03 PM
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what?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 10:59 PM
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Good thing most people don’t think of fellow humans as purely aesthetic objects for their own viewing pleasure.?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 10:31 PM
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Single people have existed in every version of civilization, unlike the nuclear family which is a very 21st century idea. You can still be a part of a community, without being coupled up. Humans are made for social connection and communal living.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 09:56 PM
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Except period pain is a woman’s reaction? .. and so is a woman feeling ick. So no, not an apt comparison there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 09:46 PM
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It’s responsive vs spontaneous desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 09:45 PM
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Again, that’s a generalization that’s not relevant to the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 09:42 PM
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The difference is consciousness.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 08:27 PM
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This isn't grounded in reality nor representative of healthy relationship dynamics. The premise that women are inherently emotionally incapable is laughable. The idea that we must choose between independence and being "feminine" is also false. Emotional regulation is a human skill, not a gendered one. All adults experience emotions and develop strategies to manage them. Many women are extraordinarily emotionally stable while many men struggle with emotional regulation. These are individual diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 08:03 PM
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Control their emotions and think rationally and logically No they’re not. They’re just not emotionally aware enough to recognize when their feelings are leading the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 07:50 PM
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Would I be wrong if I felt no empathy and said honestly after considering her point that I don't find it a compelling reason for the way you acted. You don’t get to validate or invalidate someone else’s emotions. You can express how you felt by their reaction. It’s immature to pretend you can deny what someone else is feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 07:49 PM
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We’re not talking about relationships between two people though. Your post and your comments are clearing arguing that women are emotional and men aren’t. I have several world examples that clearly show how male emotions affects the world all around us, thereby disputing your argument that women are more emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 07:18 PM
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Ftr I’m autistic too, I care deeply about money and my career. Not saying that to judge, just to put it into perspective that this is an “individual person” thing and not a “neurodivergent thing”.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 07:17 PM
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No one wants to convince you to change your ways. If that’s a future you want for yourself, say that shit now and start working towards it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 07:06 PM
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lots of millenials living with their parents. Just because someone is living with their parents, doesn’t mean they want to or are happily doing so. Most people are saving up with the goal to move out, buy a house of their own, move in with their partner etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 07:01 PM
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No, you are not "unempathetic", Women's emotional expectations are just unreasonable Let’s start with his post title?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 06:47 PM
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No, I chose to point out the flaw in your argument. You seem to think that men and women handle emotions differently, they don’t. Both examples you gave are the same. The last half of your comment describes a particularly toxic individual, but that’s not gendered, there are men and women that act like that because they don’t have the stress tolerance, emotional intelligence to regulate their emotions like an adult. That’s a maturity issue, not a gendered one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 06:47 PM
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Women are more emotional on average obviously. No, they’re not. Men are as emotional as women, they just lack the emotional intelligence and communication skills to identify it. Men will get angry and rage out, start wars, kill people, violent competition, aggressive ego- all of those are men being emotional and not responsibly handling their excess emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 06:43 PM
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And so do I :) Then why are you complaining about women vetting for their priorities? If your goal is to find people you’re aligned with you’d encourage women to do this, as it saves everyone wasted time and energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 06:40 PM
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What about different people want different things is hard for you to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 06:37 PM
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because a lot of women expect a man to be earning a certain amount of money before they go on a first date with them. Because those women care about relationship compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 06:34 PM
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…which are usually women 🤣💀
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 06:32 PM
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Apparently not, if this is a recurrent issue you’re experiencing?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 06:30 PM
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Why would you waste the time when you already know you’re not compatible?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 06:28 PM
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Because why would I go on a date if our ambitions are incompatible?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 06:26 PM
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my lack of a career and earning potential holds me back. And like why? Lifestyle incompatibility? Different priorities? Contrasting ambitions? Shared values are the basis of any relationship. If those aren’t aligned, there’s no potential for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 06:19 PM
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Should men have... friends? I vote yes 🙋🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 06:16 PM
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I think I replied to another comment of yours with similar sentiments, but essentially emotional volatility is toxic and a red flag, regardless of gender. Being a human with emotions is normal. Letting those emotions chronically consume and overwhelm situations is unhealthy and an issue to be fixed in therapy. I don’t see anything gendered about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 06:05 PM
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But do men who do that expecting you to empathize with them? Or are they just angry and venting Those are the same thing hon.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 05:55 PM
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All humans are emotional. I wouldn’t date a chronically insecure person, man or woman, because I’m an adult and have better uses of my time. But every normal person has moments of insecurity, or anxiety, or sadness, that’s healthy and normal. But being an adult is having the emotional maturity to recognize your emotions and communicate your needs. Emotional volatility is a toxic trait that’s unattractive in anyone, but it’s not exclusive to one gender over the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 05:54 PM
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Throwing a tantrum about a minor inconvenience because hormones are high? Have you never seen an angry man?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 05:47 PM
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Just reverse the gender and then give your opinions. A lot of the things yall fight hard to defend yall wouldn’t even consider yourself doing for a man. What does that even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 05:46 PM
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Or the third option, OP uses this priority as a filter for compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 05:33 PM
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Men are just as emotional as women. Many men just lack the emotional intelligence and communication skills to effectively communicate their emotions. That’s what happens when we raise girls and boys differently and provide either group with only half of the toolbox.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 05:26 PM
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my inability to get sexually satisfied is much more important than yours" lol. As a single person you’re not in any social contract with anyone else. There’s no agreed expectation of sharing love, care, time, energy, or intimacy. Inside a relationship you are in a social contract, with your partner. You give those resources and you get those resources back. That’s why an uneven exchange within a relationship is a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 04:39 PM
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It’s not a good one hon. The comparison makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 04:22 PM
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If sex is so important after all, then lonely single men are suffering without it - OP probably
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 04:19 PM
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Can't people just masturbate? Some people do. Others prioritize sexual intimacy within a relationship. Different strokes for different folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 04:16 PM
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Different people have different preferences. Some women have extremely high libidos. Some men have very low libidos. You need compatibility within a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 04:12 PM
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While I agree this is shallow behavior generally used on shallow dating apps, I don’t know if the specific data points you chose are comparable. a 185cm guy // while being 155cm 60kg girl // while they are 120kg
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 03:37 PM
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I did. It still breaks down to a civil rights movement rooted in inequality and sociopolitical progress being equated to a niche internet dating movement…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 03:06 PM
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That's a big difference. One of these has contributed to systemic, political and economic progress on a historic scale. The other is a dating advice niche.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 02:48 PM
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One is a century old civil rights movement that led social and political progress towards a more equitable and ethical society. The other is an internet niche for dating advice. How on earth are these two even comparable?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 01:59 PM
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prefer =\= demand so don’t date women who are unconfident and neurotic
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 11:35 AM
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That’s exactly what I’m talking about. How can they justifiably take women as clients and charge them money if they don’t have the diverse network of men to deliver on their promises?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 11:33 AM
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Because if their network of connections only sources women you’d have to build an entire new network to try and source enough men to curate a selection for female clients.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 05:03 AM
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I’m not a matchmaker so I have only a vague idea of the process or steps involved, but what I do know is that it’s highly dependent on your network of contacts. So if their network just doesn’t feature that wide variety of men they need to justifiably charge those women for their services, it would be unethical in my opinion for them to accept them as clients and make promises they can’t deliver.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 04:07 AM
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Think of it like a barber shop or a suit tailor, like yeah you can walk in there as a woman and ask that the same service performed on men be done on you, but you can’t walk in and expect them to style a 50s bouffant or make a ballgown. Different techniques and skillsets.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 03:37 AM
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I mean they have the right to refuse service, at least in my country. I don’t care to force business to offer bespoke services to everybody. That’s not how capitalism works, you niche down and find your clientele. You don’t want to serve women? Great, someone else will and will care a lot more about providing that service and serving that clientele.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 03:10 AM
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So do you think we can stop teaching boys never to hit a girl, among other gendered behavior lessons? Yeah, I think that the basics like “don’t hit people” is already covered and doesn’t need to be gendered. I think teaching boys that girls are weaker and need to protected is dumb and sexist and causes a lot of the problems we see in adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 01:03 AM
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Most people prefer confident and nice. Those aren’t mutually exclusive, just fyi.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 12:54 AM
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Things like don’t hit, be nice, and don’t use people are taught to little girls as well, those aren’t exactly gendered. But the more sexist equivalents for young women would be “play to a man’s ego” “let him feel stronger/smarter than you” “make him feel needed” “give him regular sex even if you don’t want it”. You know the crappy shit our grandmothers/mothers told us to try and “land a husband”.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 12:52 AM
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Out of curiosity, what lessons in that area aren’t we already teaching young girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 12:42 AM
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when i see boss babe feminists in their 30s with a promiscuous past and a social media addiction ask about where the good men are i usually think: not looking for you. Do you not believe in personal preference? Or do you judge all genders for their professional success?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 12:18 AM
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They were always taken seriously No, they definitely weren’t. After me too people were canceled without investigation or fair trail which led to the statment of believe all women which led to not believing anyone. Social “cancelling” isn’t a thing, especially not for sex related crimes. Also most companies just did surface level policy changes just to adhere to the bs since there were already policy for this. Companies historically would cover their asses, men would let their fellow men get away…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 12:15 AM
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Well myself and other women aren’t sexually harassed in the workplace anymore. Our complaints to hr are taken seriously and no one’s trying to withhold our promotion for a blow job. All positive improvements on society! Also, college campuses are safer for female students. Schools take sexual harassment claims seriously. Other good things brought to us by believing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 11:56 PM
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It was not most women and that's why me too was a disaster and ended up being just another controversial movement. It was most women. That’s why MeToo had a lasting and important impact on society and women’s safety in public and professional spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 10:25 PM
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You say that as if that wasn’t the agreed upon status quo before.. It was within that system that women experienced all sorts of harassment, anger and violence thus causing feminists to stand up and protect women’s safety in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 10:18 PM
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because media and feminism online instead of giving solutions just bitched and moaned Why is it feminism’s responsibility to find you a suitable replacement for harassment?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 10:02 PM
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Men buy cars to impress other men. Women wear makeup to impress other women. These are lifestyle hobbies they enjoy participating in. For a relationship you just need financial compatibility. Not even comparing net worth or wealth, but looking at what sort of spender you are, how much do you save/invest, what things do you feel are frivolous vs. necessary to spend money on. Those will vary person to person but without question will make or break a relationship if those values aren’t aligned.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 08:59 PM
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I think we should pay more attention to what’s coming up on someone else’s feed, especially as the apps algorithms get more and more personalized by our individual engagement. But I don’t think it makes sense to hold someone else to things said in spaces they don’t frequent or in media they don’t consume.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 08:52 PM
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The delusional fantasy you’re describing has everything to do with a persons maturity and emotional intelligence and almost nothing to do with the specific hobbies they happen to enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 08:50 PM
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They form a fantasy of a relationship in their head that doesn’t mesh with reality and really isn’t healthy That’s an issue whether you’re a nerd or a normie tho. You’re describing a very general toxic thing that average people do and then crediting it to only nerdy guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 08:32 PM
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I love comic books, anime, video games, and Funko Pops just as much as I love designer bags, day drinking, and booking a spontaneous flight. Some people can’t comprehend that some of those are more alike than they are different, and it’s wild. Like a love for aesthetic design. Fun social interactions. A sense of adventure. Those all can be found and shared in nerdy hobbies as well as more mainstream ones- and are often enjoyed by the same people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 07:45 PM
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men consistently value character more than women do. Not according to men on this sub. Y’all will fuck anything apparently. Women are the ones checking for personality, hobbies, passions, family values, political interests, and y’all say we’re crazy for doing that. If good men were truly what women wanted, they’d be pursued They are, look around at any happily married coupled. 8/10 times she pursued him and they ended up married. Why? Because most women screen for a wider variety of traits than …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 07:28 PM
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This is widely inaccurate. Introverted couples quite commonly have a partner that is their best friend. (In an ideal world you both have additional friends on top of that). But I’ve noticed nerdy folks are way more likely to share interests and hobbies with their SO than non-nerds.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 07:21 PM
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You don’t even recognize your own contradictions, it almost amazing. You accuse me of having some “glamorised infallible view of women” and then go onto argue that “every woman doesn’t experience this "negative" effect”. Girl get your head out of the clouds. 💀🤦🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 02:49 PM
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The effect on the recipient is what matters If the effect on the recipient is what matters than that effect is feeling cheap and interchangeable. You’re assuming a positive effect where there is none. To borrow your own words: You're struggling to accept that maybe just maybe some of your peers don't think like you assume they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 02:32 PM
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“Whoever invites you out for the date” is for any and all dates, not just first dates dude. The concept applies to repeat interactions and consecutive dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 02:20 PM
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What proportion of women do you think take validation from social media Are you assuming the validation those women seek on social media is from men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 02:13 PM
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that repeated, unearned attention can warp someone’s self-perception. And once again I’ll repeat my original point. That “repeated unearned attention” isn’t validating or complimentary. It’s sleazy and self-serving manipulation from the speaker, like the man or the used car salesmen.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 02:02 PM
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Just because a woman isn’t interested in you, doesn’t mean she thinks she’s above you. This is so accurate. Idk why men so often conflate the two, but they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 02:00 PM
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You’re stuck on the metaphor instead of the meaning. I’m using the metaphor to explain why your perspective is skewed and the point you’re arguing is wrong. If you actually engaged the metaphor with good intentions you’d understand your bias and how it’s skewing your viewpoint here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 01:55 PM
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Once again, the women aren’t the car in this metaphor. You thinking the women are the car is the whole issue here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 01:50 PM
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That’s a fair point. I personally don’t observe that behavior to the extent that you describe, but my perspective is obviously different than yours. From my viewpoint it’s usually men who are holding other men to such heightened standards of toughness and masculinity. But again, that’s just my observed perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 01:48 PM
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it inflates the perceived value of anything they’re pitching to. That doesn’t make any sense dude. The clients of a used car salesmen are inherently interchangeable, they’re not elevated or inflated because of the pandering.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 01:44 PM
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I think you’re confusing two separate things. You can advocate against antiquated gender roles as pre-assigned by society and also prefer traditional roles within your relationship. One is advocating for freedom of choice and the other is using that individual choice. For the record I’m all about non-traditional roles in my relationships, but as a feminist I also advocate for individual choice and respect that some men want a housewife and some women want to be that housewife. As long as that is…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 01:42 PM
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In this metaphor the women aren’t the used car. The gross men coming onto women non-consensually are the gross used car salesmen with their sleazy come ons.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 01:36 PM
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There’s your confusion. Used car salesmen aren’t treating you like a luxury car. They’re treating you like the naive mark who they can sell their beat up junker to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 01:31 PM
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Some women, like some men, like traditional gender roles. How is this news to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 01:24 PM
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they chase anything that breathes, tolerate disrespect, overlook incompatibility, and validate women with constant attention it creates a false sense of superiority. Does a used car salesmen buttering you up make you feel validated or superior?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 01:23 PM
1

Who’s attacking?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 12:59 PM
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I’m literally describing something that’s a regular occurrence online as a woman. wtf is your problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 12:03 PM
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It’s not about what he posted. It’s about the women responding about his “gooning” habits. Almost always followed by the private dms asking them to explain their thoughts more expansively.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 11:39 AM
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Dude it’s a very common thing especially amongst askwomen subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 11:34 AM
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Can we retire this stupid term already? Be an adult and just say masturbation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 03:34 AM
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Those are the same thing tho. Like in your head they’re not the same thought but the information you’re asking for/looking to find out is the same regardless of your true intention.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 08:47 PM
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No. It’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 08:05 PM
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Which is why I dislike the whole “what do you bring to the table?” argument. Why? It’s good to know what you’re looking for in a relationship. A big part of that is recognizing the life you’re building for yourself and how someone else would fit into that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 07:58 PM
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The good reasons to have a relationship still hold true in 2025. I just think the bad reasons are thankfully no longer a problem. So yes we may see less relationships/marriages but the quality of those will be far greater than previous generations. (which is a net positive in my opinion)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 07:54 PM
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I think you're missing some important historical context here. Feminism didn't emerge in a vacuum as some arbitrary attack on men - it was a direct response to centuries of systematic oppression and inequality. When you say "you weren't relentlessly disenfranchising and shitting on men during those times," you've actually got it backward. Women's rights movements arose precisely because women were being disenfranchised - denied the vote, barred from owning property, restricted from certain occup…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 06:43 PM
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Birth rate 100% is dependent on political climate. To reexplain my last comment, today’s political climate dictates the babies of today. Are babies of today voting rn? Sorry, but the overwhelming norm is children inheriting political ideologies from their parents. No they don’t. Look at immigration. Look at LGBTQ+ communities. Your parents politics do not define who you are. And the most liberal of the most conservative countries migrate to the liberal countries, it’s how the world works.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:25 PM
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Those aren’t non-western exclusive things. Most men I see with those issues are western/American men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:13 PM
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Hence the alarming deterioration of liberal values You’re blaming current birth rates for the current political climate, those aren’t correlated at this time. Two decades from now? Sure. Right now? The data does not support your argument. Even recognizing how conservatives are having more kids than liberals, conservative parents =\= conservative kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:01 PM
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as backwards conservative forces dominate society in the future. Yeah conservatives are already doing that in the west. Why are acting like this is a non-western problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 04:41 PM
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Back to my previous comment: You: every liberal western country rapidly dwindling and eventually extinct. me: That’s not how extinction works.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 04:35 PM
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Dude, stop and think for like a moment about you’re suggesting in your above comment.. That’s because the majority of the population is from east and south Asia. You dumped reproductive rate onto those countries without realizing the balance has been shifted elsewhere. Now on the other side of the scale every liberal western country rapidly dwindling and eventually extinct. If there are humans left on this earth, then humans are not fucking extinct. 🤦🏼‍♀️💀
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 02:48 PM
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every liberal western country rapidly dwindling and eventually extinct. That’s not how extinction works.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 12:20 PM
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It’s truly not. Also, I thought conservatives had the monopoly on tobacco..?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 01:49 AM
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No we don’t. I fight for your right as a woman to live however the fuck you choose. Want to stay at home, wear dresses and have 8 kids? Hell yeah, let’s march for that. You’d rather skip the kids and take over corporate America? Hell yeah, let’s march for that. It’s called women’s choice for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 12:29 AM
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Opinions like this are why you don’t get laid hon.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:13 PM
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Unlike women men, women are capable of voting on principle and not solely for things that grant them personal power and privilege. Don’t worry hon! Fixed it for you 😘
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:11 PM
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Abolishing gender roles doesn’t take away women’s choice to wear dresses and stay at home. It just makes those things a personal choice and not a social requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:10 PM
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It’s been a proposed bill on and off for like the past two decades at least. Every. Single. Time. Conservatives crash it because they don’t think women belong in the military. It’s fucking sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:04 PM
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The most recent legislation on the topic was in 2021. wtf are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 10:55 PM
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Our world is overpopulated as is. We literally don’t have the resources to maintain this growth at our current pace.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 10:53 PM
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Tell that to the conservatives who killed the gender neutral draft bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 10:51 PM
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This post is clearly a troll but all the dudes agreeing with it is wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 10:51 PM
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Yeah the issue here is you seem to think you have two functional synapses and therefore deserve a vote…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 10:49 PM
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Childlessness by choice should be punished, actually. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 10:49 PM
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I’m not ignoring anything. Non-lethal physical abuse is still a male-dominated category.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 10:48 PM
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Compared to the men on this sub we’re geniuses 🤦🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 10:47 PM
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Sounds like he’s better than you. That’s not the conclusion to draw from that 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 10:46 PM
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as I suggest, at least 20% of men and 70% of women wouldn't qualify for voting. What the actual fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 10:45 PM
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The case has never been made why it's okay for the demographic immune to the draft to constitute Democrats have tried adding women to the draft. We are absolutely fine with it, but you know who wasn’t? Conservative old men that said it was “too woke”.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 10:44 PM
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offended? No. Concerned for your mental state? absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 10:39 PM
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The last woman in the draft piece of legislation was pushed by the democrats. And conservatives did vote it down because it was “too woke”.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 10:33 PM
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Y’all are conflating social infighting with actual abuse. Those are two entirely different things. I’m not arguing that there’s not infighting amongst women. I am arguing that women aren’t dying and getting physically beaten because another woman doesn’t like her outfit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 10:25 PM
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Historically women could and did vote more conservatively/right wing than men in some countries. Historically conservatives were against big government and were dead-set against restricting women’s rights. Things change.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 10:18 PM
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Most women will tell you that women are worse than men when it comes to abuse. No they won’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 10:05 PM
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What in the actual fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 10:04 PM
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Botox already exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 08:50 PM
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No it’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:15 PM
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And our world is overpopulated in general, so?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 06:13 PM
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You don't compare alcohol to pornography. It can leave you depressed for a month like a drug addiction once you quit. Against your will. what are you trying to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 06:08 PM
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Says the man playing victim on behalf of dudes in relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 05:01 PM
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Most men in relationships are constantly dealing with their woman's emotional issues. Causing someone else’s =\= processing your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:54 PM
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I’m sorry, you think BBW is a term women came up with? It’s a porn term sir. Created by men to describe their niche sexual fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:11 PM
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What you’re describing is a natural consequence of their actions. They will limit their dating ability. It doesn’t affect you at all, so why exactly are you commenting about it here? And why do you pretend that the obesity epidemic is a gendered issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 03:53 PM
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You’re shifting the goalposts. No one’s arguing that all forms of coercion can or will disappear entirely—but there’s a huge difference between coercion to maintain basic social order (like laws against theft) and coercion that exists to uphold male access to women. The latter isn’t a neutral or necessary feature of civilization—it’s a patriarchal relic designed to preserve power structures, not promote social cohesion. Framing women’s autonomy as a societal threat because some men feel left out…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 03:36 PM
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You’re still assuming that men are owed romantic or sexual fulfillment by society, which is exactly the patriarchal mindset we’re trying to move away from. Any model of society that requires coercion or control to function, is not a sustainable or ethical society. We should be building a world rooted in equity and mutual respect, not one designed to soothe the discomfort of those who feel entitled to what others aren’t obligated to give.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 03:13 PM
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I don't want to return to the 1800s or enslave women Yeah, those aren’t available options for you, or any random dudes on this sub who keep threatening patriarchal submission as if we’ll suddenly start behaving like you want us to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:44 PM
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Terrible sales pitch for patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:34 PM
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Full support for men nurturing more community for themselves. Women have a victim narrative they can bond over. But dumbing women’s communal bond down to this is such a male-centered take, it’s hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:22 PM
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2010? That’s the best you got 🤣💀
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 03:37 AM
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Except the wage gap affects middle aged women even when they’re not married or have no kids. The perception bias that surely every woman around a certain age will soon become pregnant is why women get passed over for promotions, mentorship opportunities at work, and yeah get paid less statistically. So I agree, treat people like adults. Don’t assume because she has a vagina that she’ll succumb to cave men urges and throw away a career she’s devoted her life to. But see people like you don’t like…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 03:21 AM
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What the actual fuck dude? Condolences to your wife…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:46 AM
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Maybe they’re on their periods?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:08 AM
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Nah, a lot of us are very direct and efficient with our communication and choices. The downvotes are fucking hilarious. Be a man, leave a comment. Don’t play games 😘
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:05 AM
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So my not giving you entrance inside my physical body is your reasonable excuse to be a misogynist and vehemently hate all women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:25 AM
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And like I said in my first comment, watching porn is not the equivalent of brain rot. Just like having an occasional drink doesn’t make you an alcoholic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:13 AM
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Having a drink on occasion doesn’t make you an alcoholic ✌🏻 it’s your dependency to the vice and the negative impact it has on the rest of your life that is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:09 AM
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No it’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:05 AM
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I remember that violence causes far more problems than it solves.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 12:32 AM
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whereas all women exhibit red pilling behaviour. Meaning they don’t fuck you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 12:29 AM
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They didn’t assume your sexual status. They just used the literal definition of “misogynist” to question your meaning. Which is way weirder now knowing you have a wife. Like wtf dude?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 12:27 AM
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Red pill warns people when others are being assholes and tells you to avoid said assholes. If that’s true, why the fuck are y’all still trying to date women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:56 PM
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The difference is feminism has an actual need and has made genuine improvements on society as a whole. Like why are we pretending that TRP and an actual civil rights movement are at all equal in meaning and impact?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:48 PM
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You’re actually admitting you’ve never had sex and you feel entitled to write this bullshit post about it? You have no experience or expertise here hon.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 08:47 PM
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Alright I’m officially convinced you’ve never had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 08:32 PM
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Wow, just admitting you’re a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 08:30 PM
3

But do those barn animals and chicken sandwiches care about his pleasure? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 08:24 PM
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How do you get it up if you’re not attracted to her?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 08:06 PM
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You can say that all the times you want, it doesn’t make that nonsense statement make any logical sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 07:47 PM
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Again, that has nothing to do with your post title Men don’t care about a women’s pleasure during casual sex because women don’t care about his pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 07:39 PM
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Not when the sexual encounter ceases to end right after they finish. If women were using these men to get themselves off and then leave them blue balled and still fully loaded, then you’d have an argument to make here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 07:30 PM
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OP’s equating orgasm for orgasm. By that standard if he finished, she cared about his pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 07:21 PM
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Explain the “she doesn’t care about his pleasure” part of the title.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 07:18 PM
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if she doesn’t care about his? Does he finish? If so, she cared about his pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 07:14 PM
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No you see everything a man doesn’t like is our fault /s Including letting him fuck you apparently 🤦🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 07:03 PM
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What score? Both of y’all consented, showed up and are taking each other’s pants off.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 07:02 PM
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If someone didn’t care about whether or not you actually found them attractive during sex His deception isn’t her apathy. wtf?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 06:59 PM
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But to knowingly go after some desperate guy off a dating app who likely isn’t attracted to you is just asking for a bad experience. Explain how this is the woman “not caring about his pleasure”.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 06:56 PM
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Because it’s apples and oranges. Him finding her attractive is equivalent to her finding him attractive. Him getting an orgasm is the equivalent of her getting an orgasm. Also, you chose to sleep with someone. That’s your choice, nothings being done to you in that situation and nothing’s being kept from you in that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 06:48 PM
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This: if a woman doesn’t care about whether her partner finds her attractive or actually respects her and tries to fuck some desperate dude off a dating app has nothing to do with his “pleasure”.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 06:44 PM
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Your title has nothing to do with the rest of your post?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 06:41 PM
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Your title seems oddly worded? It seems like your post is about men’s pain and women’s emotional regulation (or lack thereof in this case). If our goal is to refocus our attention onto the pain and abuse that men suffer then focusing the title on “female pain” feels counterproductive? Maybe I’m misunderstanding your overall post tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 06:31 PM
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Have you considered the man-bashing posts that show up on your feeds don’t show up on myself or other feminists feeds? Like I totally agree that in-person/irl silence is as good as acceptance and it’s absolutely our job to criticize this behavior when we encounter it. But it seems like yall are seeing stuff online and are judging the lack of critical comments on said post as normal feminists co-signing that behavior. Basically you’re assuming awareness and involvement where they may not be any. …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 06:28 PM
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logic 🤣💀
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 03:34 AM
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No we had our active social lives. We had FaceTime and social bubbles and coordinated outdoor picnics with social distancing and dogs. But y’all had no hope of social interaction, did you? Your only potential to meet someone via cold approaches was cruelly ripped away from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 03:33 AM
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Yeah and the trend I’m pointing out is the “male loneliness epidemic” y’all are constantly complaining about. There’s no such trend for women so your attempted argument truly holds no weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 03:30 AM
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Posts like this are why y’all can’t get laid. Just FYI
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 03:29 AM
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Or are women stronger minded because we’re not bitching about a female loneliness epidemic? I think gendered generalizations are fucking stupid, mainly because you can easily swing the logic both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 03:27 AM
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By your own logic men are lonelier than women. So by your own logic men had a harder time during lockdown than women. It’s okay hon, speak your truth 💕
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 03:25 AM
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being weaker minded than most lonely men have become. what does this mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 03:23 AM
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By your logic, low value men felt incredibly screwed by the lockdowns. Their only potential for human interaction was wiped out because they didn’t have those built in social circles. So logically men were the ones having the emotional reaction to lockdown.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 03:19 AM
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While Some men did care more about the economic impact, the social effects also hit many men hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 03:17 AM
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