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Inner Game Feisty-Nerve-2800/r/seduction20/07/25 11:54 AM
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Inner Game Feisty-Nerve-2800/r/seduction26/05/25 02:00 PM
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Field ReportFeisty-Nerve-2800/r/seduction27/10/25 02:52 PM
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The vast majority of men can't be fuckboys
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 10:09 AM
10

It's male reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 11:16 PM
10

You need to go in with low expectations and not be disappointed. Everyone is replaceable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 11:01 PM
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Why? It helps you realise that it's likely temporary and won't last. You won't get attached. Don't over invest in something temporary.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:31 PM
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It makes me realise that it's only a temporary thing and shouldn't get too attached.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:30 PM
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Don't get too attached and realise that she isn't special.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:30 PM
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You need to realise that she's not special and it probably won't last.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:28 PM
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You're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:08 PM
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General loneliness is a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:02 PM
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You seem really obsessed with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:01 PM
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Get rid as soon as she starts causing any bother. If a woman insists on dinner for instance, then she sees you as a simp. This one was just a cunt. And why do you keep mentioning you don’t smile at the women you meet? It’s like you’re intentionally being weird. To hammer it home. Yes, generally if they keep changing or trying to change then they're not very attracted. She still ended it early and blocked me which was absurd.
/r/seduction30/10/25 08:55 PM
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Men and women report similar levels of loneliness, it just manifests differently in both. Calling it a "male loneliness epidemic" just sounds cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 02:29 PM
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He sounds like a nefarious person. Why do you call it "the male loneliness epidemic"?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 02:06 PM
-4

Is he in the room with us now?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 02:05 PM
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I've asked him who the male loneliness epidemic is and where he lives. Is he in the room with us now?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 02:02 PM
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Why do you call him "the male loneliness epidemic"? Who is he and where does he live?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 02:01 PM
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Did we? I have never called it that. Only subhumans do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 01:55 PM
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So then it should be a gender neutral term as loneliness impacts both genders rather than some silly Billy term used to beat men with. The reason why it's been labeled the "Male Epidemic" is because many men have centered their own pain in this discourse and expect society and women to solve this issue for them. It would be good if society were to help but overall men realise no one really cares for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 01:54 PM
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You have no argument. Why do men and women report similar levels of loneliness? If you want to call it a "loneliness epidemic", then make it more gender neutral. It just manifests in different ways in both men and women. Women can get sex whenever they want but they don't get commitment from the men they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 01:53 PM
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It's not even a thing. So if your issue is with the term that everyone is using - I can accept that. What term would you prefer everyone used to describe this pattern of male behavior? Men and women report similar levels of loneliness. It's a stupid term.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 01:47 PM
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Why do men and women report similar levels of loneliness? I just said that it manifests differently in both. It's just a silly term. If I'm lonely, it's not because of some man called "Male Loneliness Epidemic", but because of my own personal circumstances. Yes, women only talk about it to celebrate men unaliving themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 01:45 PM
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Men are lonely. So are women. It's a stupid term. I don’t it want it to exist that’s why it’s so baffling to me that you think we have come up with it lmao it would serve women for it not to exist so that You do want it to. It's also funny that women talk about it so often too. Both men and women are lonely, but it manifests in different ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 01:40 PM
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It's been widely termed by grifters and liars. It isn't a thing. There is no "male loneliness epidemic." Despite feminists and other groups wanting more men to kill themselves, it doesn't make it true. Why do you want it to exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 01:32 PM
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It doesn't make it a thing (it's not). It also doesn't make it anymore weird that women would discuss it. It's not a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 01:30 PM
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They'll be complaining about being lonely. But "the male loneliness epidemic" isn't a thing other than something to beat men with. Men and women report similar levels of loneliness. It seems to only also be women talking about it with that wording.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 01:27 PM
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I mean, those things are true. Having a loving partner would help many men for sure, but they aren't entitled to it. Unfortunately modern society is very isolating in many ways and we're seeing worse outcomes for men and women alike. I can't see men really forming a brotherhood either.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 01:25 PM
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They don't care. They only call it "the male loneliness epidemic" as a means to attack men. But the narrative that women and feminists made up the idea of male loneliness when it’s men that are talking about it, raising alarm bells about it and constantly COMPLAINING that women are not doing anything about it; is so bizarre. It's the fact that they're celebrating men killing themselves. Men and women are lonely, but only men can be sexless.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 01:22 PM
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The fact that women talk about the "male loneliness epidemic" only because they want to celebrate men killing themselves is telling. It only seems to be women who talk specifically about it. If we were to ignore it we are told we don’t have empathy and this is why there’s an empathy gap, if we address it we’re told we are only addressing it as a feminist conspiracy for our own shits and giggles. Well yes the latter is why women talk about it. Women also report similar rates of loneliness but man…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 01:08 PM
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Because it's only women talking about it and they use it as a means to celebrate as they consider men subhuman. That's why they bring it up. It's the sole reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 01:00 PM
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I only hear women talking about the "male loneliness epidemic" and it's just another stick to beat men with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 12:25 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 11:55 AM
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I don't smile unless I gain something or win. No. If you saw them as human, you would understand that there is more to an interaction than deciding if there is physical attraction or not. Such as? I already knew it wouldn't work out.
/r/seduction29/10/25 06:33 PM
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Why would I smile? I do see them as human.
/r/seduction29/10/25 06:18 PM
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When she kept on trying to rearrange the place and didn't even come into the bar when we met?
/r/seduction29/10/25 05:47 PM
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Who has it easier in getting laid out of the average man and the average woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 04:46 PM
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They do, though. This is a male issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 04:30 PM
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You're a man so why does the fact that women have it very easy annoy you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 04:14 PM
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Who has higher SMV and who has dating easier out of men and women? Why do ugly women still have tons of options?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 12:26 PM
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Any woman can find sex. There are no female incels so I don't know why they would try to make a male issue their issue. Every woman has infinite value whilst most men don't. That's just sexual selection. A woman putting a word together doesn't make her an incel. It's a male only thing that women can't experience. They have the power in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 12:02 PM
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Any woman can, no matter how ugly. Every woman has infinite value. These women are only shooting way above their level and going after Chads. Being sexless is a male issue. Women cannot be incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 11:41 AM
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That one in August was just brutal tbf. She wasn't even attractive other than her body and she was 39. Yet she seemed to think she was better than me by doing that. Have an honest conversation. Just from what you wrote I’m guessing that you aren’t amazing at social skills. Just start with being honest. I’m not saying it will go amazingly for you, but if instead of texting that girl what you thought and said it in person when you were together it might have gone differently. Yeah well when she di…
/r/seduction29/10/25 08:39 AM
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Any woman can participate in it as getting laid is extremely easy for women. Most men can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 08:36 AM
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By paying.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:24 PM
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Why did the other leave within five minutes and block me? I've got three more this week.
/r/seduction28/10/25 10:02 PM
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Dating coaches often use Jabba the Hutt as an example of a person to emulate as he's surrounded by multiple women despite not being the most attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:00 PM
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I know a man who wears a bra. We used to mock him, but now we don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 02:23 PM
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It's the truth. If you are not Chad you are disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 02:10 PM
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If you need to approach then she's likely not attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 02:08 PM
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No he's not, he's disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 02:07 PM
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Why is the average man a 6? I want your reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 01:57 PM
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They have no attractive features and they get rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 01:55 PM
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How are they 5s and 6s exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 01:41 PM
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Yes they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 01:33 PM
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The average man is not a 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 01:31 PM
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8 or 9 is a Chad. The average man is 3. There is no subjectivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 01:23 PM
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Women's standards these days are insane. Above average doesn't cut it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 01:20 PM
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Women have options. Men don't
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 01:05 PM
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Women can afford to be picky. The vast majority of men can't
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 01:03 PM
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Who do you think is more picky out of men and women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 12:55 PM
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That's what rejection is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 12:45 PM
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Because I knew that she likely didn't find me attractive, same as other women who have gone on dates with me in the past. A woman once left within a few minutes and blocked me afterwards.
/r/seduction28/10/25 12:43 PM
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No they're not. Men have incredibly low standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 12:41 PM
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A woman expected me to pay £14 for her ticket for shuffleboard the other week lmao. It was the second date. If you need to pay, then you're ugly in her eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 12:41 PM
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If you need to pay and provide then she's not attracted. Women just don't like most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 12:34 PM
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You're an exception. Even hideous women have infinite SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 12:07 PM
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It came up on my feed. I need to spread the word that most men are disgusting to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 11:59 AM
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No. I was showing how silly your claim that getting rid of apps would somehow make a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 11:55 AM
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You said to try other means of meeting women. I said it's futile as it's a guaranteed rejection. Like whenever I go on a date from an app I know she will say no anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 11:42 AM
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Because if I were to ever try to talk to a woman I'd be arrested or beaten up/possibly killed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 11:38 AM
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All women find me ugly so I'm sure that they don't want me talking to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 11:36 AM
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How else can I meet women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 11:32 AM
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Sometimes in life things don't work out. Like dates and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 11:22 AM
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I knew deep down they didn't want me anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 11:17 AM
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Yep. But there were arguments so I left. If you get into an argument then she's not attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 11:15 AM
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Yes, a rejection from her. You're the one who thinks that a woman being in a relationship with you means something. It doesn't. You also think that confidence matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 11:13 AM
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If they don't feel a "spark", then that's woman speak for "you are ugly and unlovable." That's what it means. You don't have hope. But no date is gonna have a spark if you act like a weirdo and self sabotage it. I already knew what the outcome would be (rejection). There was no chance of it going well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 11:11 AM
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If you know it'll be a guaranteed rejection, then why not sabotage it? If she wanted to waste my time then I'll waste her time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 11:05 AM
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How? Most men are ugly to women. Only very attractive men can.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:52 AM
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So how could the date have alternatively gone? Women have sent me messages after dates in the past accusing me of not possessing a spark or connection. So why would the last one be different? I've actually got two more dates this week.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:50 AM
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Personality barely matters to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:49 AM
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Apps are the best measure of your worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:48 AM
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No they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:48 AM
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It doesn't matter to women. They primarily go for looks. The date wasn't going to work out no matter how I acted. I was happy to sabotage it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:46 AM
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A date doesn't mean shit. If she were attracted she'd come right to your place. Which you proceeded to fuck up by acting like a weird, distant autist because you were convinced she was gonna reject you. Straight up snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. There was no victory. Women have told me before after dates that they didn't feel a romantic connection or spark, so therefore they want me dead and I'm unlovable. Why would another woman think differently? Particularly this bitch. I'll proba…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:42 AM
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Lol that’s not how it works. You not being someone’s type doesn’t make you repulsive. Yes it does. If a woman rejects you then that means she thinks you're unlovable. Lmao you went on a date and didn’t smile and didn’t look at her…and you thought that was a successful strategy? Why would I look at the bitch? I knew it would be a rejection. Thanks for proving my points, it’s not your looks, it’s because of your weird, stunted personality lol Your personality doesn't matter and all evidence proves…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:37 AM
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If a woman swipes left on you, then she finds you repulsive. If you’re ugly, you’re ugly. Sucks to suck. Looks for a visually impaired woman to date lol. Women find most men ugly. I had a first date with some bitch on Friday and I already knew that it would be a rejection and so when we met I didn't smile back at her and didn't even really look at her. This was the exchange after (I finished the date early): Me: Hey also on Friday I got the impression that you found me physically repulsive off t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:33 AM
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0272775719301104 Most men get rejected, therefore they are unlovable. Women reject you because you’re ugly or you’re socially awkward, be honest. Things like confidence don't matter. All women care about is looks. If you're not perfect looking then you are out of luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:22 AM
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So what if a woman is in a relationship with you? It doesn't mean she wants you or desires you. The man is basically a pet. App data shows that women find 95% of men as repulsive. That's why I always know that whenever I interact with a woman that it's a guaranteed rejection, no matter the context (dates, classes, etc.) Men need to realise this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:17 AM
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No it doesn't. Most men are unlovable. Women are extremely selective with men's looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:22 AM
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Past generations. Most men are disgusting in the eyes of women
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 08:24 AM
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Stability. Humans are pair bonding creatures. I know that any woman I'm with probably doesn't even want me anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 08:23 AM
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A safety means. Stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 08:23 AM
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Most men need to realise that the woman they're with likely doesn't even want them anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 08:21 AM
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Which doesn't mean anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 08:20 AM
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Men take what they can get
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 08:17 AM
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Reality. Do you believe most men can participate in hookup culture?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 08:15 AM
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App data. What should I do if go to a bar and no woman approaches me? Obviously that means I'm unattractive
/r/ExRedPill28/10/25 12:23 AM
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Why?
/r/ExRedPill28/10/25 12:20 AM
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Something to do. Even when we're in a relationship, I know that deep down she doesn't want me.
/r/seduction28/10/25 12:19 AM
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Then why have women said that I didn't possess a romantic connection in the past? I knew this woman wouldn't be attracted to me so I didn't even smile at her when we met.
/r/seduction28/10/25 12:14 AM
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Women do generally. If I go to a bar or club and no woman approaches me then I just know I'm not attractive. It can hurt the confidence but it is what it is.
/r/ExRedPill27/10/25 11:13 PM
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You really don't. If you are attractive then it will find you. That's why I never approach because it's a losing situation. I also don't message first. If she won't approach or make the first move then she's not attracted. Do you think men have it easy in dating?
/r/ExRedPill27/10/25 10:08 PM
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You really don't need a silly "the connection" to smash. Then start forcing yourself to say it. Change your mindset. Why? I don't care about connections.
/r/seduction27/10/25 10:03 PM
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How do they do fine? If you need to put yourself out there as a man then you're not good enough. Do you think men have it easy in dating?
/r/ExRedPill27/10/25 10:02 PM
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Most men get rejected IRL and never get raw attraction. They struggle to get anything. How do you think most men do?
/r/ExRedPill27/10/25 09:59 PM
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They work for plenty of people. If you don't make it then you're unattractive. Most men also struggle IRL too.
/r/ExRedPill27/10/25 09:56 PM
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Then why did she do that? Dating apps aren't bad. They're not worse than real life. They work for plenty of people. If you can't make them work then you're ugly.
/r/ExRedPill27/10/25 09:53 PM
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These women all find me ugly so I wouldn't waste time. One left a date with me after lewes than five minutes back in August and then blocked me. What does that say Why are you so against dating apps? At least they're low effort.
/r/ExRedPill27/10/25 09:48 PM
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Bro a woman literally left the date within five minutes and then blocked me a few months back. I don't understand WTF happened. s and how do you get to the part of smashing? By getting to know each other and see if you have things in common with each other. Wanna know a great way to find that stuff out? By going on a date with them. You don't need to go a date to smash. It's corny. It’s more polite to say that telling her your blunt truth or just ghosting her. It's not true and it's not somethin…
/r/seduction27/10/25 09:45 PM
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Terrible idea.
/r/ExRedPill27/10/25 09:38 PM
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What evidence did she give you to reach the conclusion that you did before going on the and during the date? I don’t want what other women did to you, I want to know what this woman did for you to reach that conclusion Because it's best to assume that they always find you repulsive and don't like you. Plus women in the past have told me I'm worthless (no connection) after dates. One even left within a few minutes and blocked me. Again how did you know that? If she didn’t have interest, then why …
/r/seduction27/10/25 07:37 PM
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I already knew the date wouldn't work out as she likely wouldn't be attracted. Any interest she may have had in you (even if it was tiny) was lost after the first date because she thought you weren’t interested in her. However, she now realized that’s it’s a good thing for her you weren’t interested because in her mind, she dodged a bullet that is you. She didn't have interest. That was the point. Goodness gracious dude what kinda of message is this. You have instantly creeped her out when you s…
/r/seduction27/10/25 06:54 PM
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She rejected me so it didn't matter. She didn't find me attractive.
/r/seduction27/10/25 06:35 PM
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Why?
/r/seduction27/10/25 06:29 PM
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I never smile at people. Your personality doesn't matter.
/r/seduction27/10/25 05:54 PM
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Don't deal with no or low interest women.
/r/seduction27/10/25 05:49 PM
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Why would I smile at her? What should I have done? She just wasn't attracted to me.
/r/seduction27/10/25 05:48 PM
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Why would I want a woman who isn't attracted to me? That makes no sense. If I've got to chase then she's not attracted. It's very simple. If you need to chase her, then move on. You don't know what you're talking about.
/r/seduction27/10/25 05:44 PM
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Yes, they do. You're just unattractive. Why wouldn't you want a woman attracted to you?
/r/seduction27/10/25 05:39 PM
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So if a man doesn't do well on apps, what should he do?
/r/ExRedPill27/10/25 05:36 PM
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If women are attracted to men then they make it easy and go after them. If you chase, then she's not attracted. Have you even read what thread you are replying to is about?
/r/seduction27/10/25 05:34 PM
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Approaching is futile.
/r/seduction27/10/25 05:29 PM
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After giving up on dating.
/r/seduction27/10/25 05:24 PM
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Yes.
/r/seduction27/10/25 04:56 PM
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Why did I set myself up for failure?
/r/seduction27/10/25 04:49 PM
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I bet you believe in "game."
/r/seduction27/10/25 04:49 PM
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If that's all I can possibly get then it is what it is.
/r/seduction27/10/25 04:28 PM
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Average and ugly men are not pulling 10s. I don't know why you keep lying.
/r/seduction27/10/25 04:26 PM
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About?
/r/seduction27/10/25 04:22 PM
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You're talking crazy
/r/seduction27/10/25 04:22 PM
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Because they're in the same league. Women rarely date down
/r/seduction27/10/25 04:21 PM
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So why do I deserve them?
/r/seduction27/10/25 04:19 PM
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Why? I'm talking about something that usually happens.
/r/seduction27/10/25 04:18 PM
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You are likely overrating to the women and underrating the men.
/r/seduction27/10/25 04:14 PM
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I asked why I would deserve them.
/r/seduction27/10/25 04:12 PM
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They're attractive, so yes.
/r/seduction27/10/25 04:12 PM
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Obviously I am.
/r/seduction27/10/25 04:08 PM
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Why would I?
/r/seduction27/10/25 04:08 PM
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A lot of it is true.
/r/seduction27/10/25 04:08 PM
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Average men are not smashing fine women.
/r/seduction27/10/25 04:00 PM
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Nah, you're talking crazy. They must be good looking. I don't smile at them when I meet them.
/r/seduction27/10/25 03:58 PM
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Looks. As the woman on Friday clearly demonstrated.
/r/seduction27/10/25 03:51 PM
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I went on a date in August and the woman left within a few minutes and blocked me.
/r/seduction27/10/25 03:48 PM
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Being honest with yourself isn't a bad thing.
/r/seduction27/10/25 03:28 PM
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I accepted my fate that she didn't find me attractive.
/r/seduction27/10/25 03:22 PM
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I already knew the date would be a rejection anyway. Women have told me after dates that there was no spark or connection, so why would it be any different?
/r/ExRedPill27/10/25 03:13 PM
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I'm not playing the victim. She just wasn't attracted and I knew the date wouldn't work out before I even met her.
/r/seduction27/10/25 03:09 PM
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Saying the truth isn't bad.
/r/seduction27/10/25 03:07 PM
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I think it's just time to give up.
/r/ExRedPill27/10/25 02:53 PM
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This was my exchange with a woman from my Friday date: Me: Hey, also on Friday I got the impression that you found me physically repulsive off the bat so take care. Nice to meet you anyway Her response was: Hey. I think you definitely got the wrong impression if that’s the case. From my side you seemed very disconnected straight away and didn’t really look at me when we first met and seemed in a rush or unimpressed
/r/ExRedPill27/10/25 11:47 AM
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Do you know who Thenuancepill is? He's a cunt.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:48 PM
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Why? Where was I wrong? Do you know Thenuancepill? If so you'd know he doesn't know anything about sexual dynamics and attraction. His articles are very harmful.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:38 PM
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Because women are hypergamous. If they think they are above me then they are delusional and it shows how many are delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:03 PM
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I don't say it on dates. I mean Thenuancepill recommends that confidence is good for men to have on dates, that shows how silly that is as h doesn't have a clue about sexual dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 11:32 AM
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Idk what the obsession is with people telling men to be confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 10:33 AM
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Wealth doesn't mean shit. I have my own place and a good job but I don't tell women. Confidence doesn't mean shit either. They were literally from an app and we met for a date (although dates don't mean anything). I just won't go for women below me for a quick shag in future.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 10:31 AM
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It's pretty much only looks. Why would they reject me even when I'm above them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 10:23 AM
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Because looks are largely objective. If these women were men they would be incels. Why would they not be below me?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 10:09 AM
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I don't. I know my level. Some women are above me and others aren't. These women are objectively below my level.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 09:48 AM
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Yet still been rejected by women objectively way below my level.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 09:43 AM
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Generally that's what happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 12:35 PM
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Nope. I've realised that the best sign is when they message first.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 08:55 AM
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Why would not complimenting them make them feel like crap? Am I there to boost their ego? I don't insult them. you want to keep being single, keep doing what you're doing. But if you can't manage to summon a smile or find a single nice thing to say to someone you're taking out on a date, you're going to be posting here forever. Because they're not attracted to me.
/r/ExRedPill24/10/25 10:33 PM
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I didn't say that they were lesser. I just said that they are worse at some things overall than men are. Which is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 10:22 PM
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Why would I compliment her? Am I here to gas them up? Do you want to date every single woman that you like? You don't know a single woman that you think is a good person and that you enjoy spending time with but don't have a romantic interest in? Generally speaking men take what they can get.
/r/ExRedPill24/10/25 10:09 PM
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I never said I was superior to women, I said that men are better at certain things and vice versa. Culture has very little to do with it. You just don't want to accept that men can be good at things as you consider them subhuman. Men are more spaced out in terms of spectrums than women are. Not just IQ, but there are also male psychopaths, sociopaths, etc. Women just aren't as good on average as men at STEM, despite all of the attempts to give them a leg up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 09:31 PM
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It's not cultural, it's genetic. Why can't men be better at STEM? Men aren't useless. Men just are more spread out, not just for geniuses but also in terms of sexual success, personality types, etc. I don't believe they're lesser so that's a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 09:08 PM
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We went for a coffee and a walk. She hasn't messaged after so I guess that's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 07:48 PM
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Probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 07:47 PM
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I have over 1,600 Hinge matches ATM.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 05:55 PM
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But a man winning a fist fight against one?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 05:41 PM
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Nope, doesn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 03:29 PM
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If someone doesn't find you attractive, how can your mindset matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 03:00 PM
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Apologies, I was just at the barbers getting ready for my date later (my next rejection).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 02:51 PM
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You could fight a grizzly bear. You just assume that it will rip you to shreds I even get up and move now if a woman sits next to me on public transport.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 02:48 PM
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Therapy is a scam, like dating coaches and people who think that confidence matters. How is it not an insult?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 02:46 PM
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It is. She thinks no one will ever want me. They say things like "I had a nice time but I didn't really feel a connection. I wish you the best" which is a direct insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 02:13 PM
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Why would I? They find me repulsive and don't want me talking to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 02:11 PM
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It does mean I'm worthless. They said I didn't possess a romantic connection. They aren't wonderful people if you didn't want to see them again. Because the judgment of one person that I met for a couple of hours doesn't mean anything about my worth as a human being, nor does it mean anything about yours. Then why would they not want to see me again? I would suspect, based on what you have posted here, that you are coming across as either desperate or bitter or both on your dates. And I truly ho…
/r/ExRedPill24/10/25 02:09 PM
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What do they think about me, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:59 PM
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Why do they reject men, then? Why was I rejected after a first date?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:59 PM
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They do find me ugly. Women have rejected me before, therefore they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:58 PM
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Because I do. So I don't approach or talk to them for pad or sparring partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:45 PM
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But most men will never have a woman who actually wants them. Men shouldn't approach women. Because when a woman rejects you it means she thinks that you are unlovable and worthless. That's why they reject you. They don't want you to ever find anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:44 PM
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Look at my muay Thai class for instance: I know all of the women find me ugly so I ignore them and don't talk to them, particularly when looking for partners in class. I am confident that I will be rejected. Your advice isn't evidence based.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:31 PM
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Because women told me I was worthless following dates by saying they couldn't see us dating. Why should I try when I know it'll be a rejection?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:30 PM
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Mindset doesn't matter in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:26 PM
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Yet try and gaslight men by giving awful advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:26 PM
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One more question: At my muay Thai class there are a lot of women. I don't even talk to them or approach any to pair up because I know they all find me ugly so I don't want to be humiliated and banned. However I am confident that they all find me ugly and will say no. Why isn't this confidence good?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 11:11 AM
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Also, I am confident that the woman will reject me. Is that how confidence works?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 11:03 AM
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Also, if anything I should be the one helping you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 10:59 AM
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You keep saying confidence matters yet can't prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 10:57 AM
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Where have I lied? If you offered good actionable advice I'd be willing to take it on board. Instead you have lied consistently. Why should I approach? What do I get out of it other than boosting the woman's ego and me likely being arrested or beaten up which is the most likely scenario?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 10:57 AM
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But it doesn't matter if he is or isn't. For example, if you get into an argument with a woman you are with then she isn't attracted to you, same as if she won't have sex with you. If I'm in a relationship with a woman who does any of this then I leave her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 10:54 AM
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If you are rejected then you are by definition ugly and unlovable. Getting rejected from people on your level is normal. You need to have a special match in order for mutual attraction to happen. I've been rejected by women BELOW my level. Most men will never experience that attraction from a woman. YOur insecurity is a MAJOR turnoff that reduces your mate value. No matter what your face looks like. Because confidence doesn't matter to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 10:52 AM
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The fact that you recommend approaching shows how disingenuous you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 10:49 AM
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It's an objective reality as I have been told that I didn't possess a romantic connection. Be self aware. That you speak of "a woman" as if all women had the same options in men. There are unattractive, addicted, broke men who have girlfriends. There are autists with girlfriends. They do. Every woman has infinite options with men. Even if I were to get a girlfriend she wouldn't really want me. There are men who are just like you, for every aspect other than their view about themselves, who have …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 10:48 AM
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It has nothing to do with it and all data shows it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 10:34 AM
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So you believe men's self reported lay counts? Why have I been rejected by women way below my level after dates? Your confidence doesn't matter. You should only deal with women who perceive you as Chad. Similarly, you could show data about how men on average prefer 22yo women and then claim that women older than that will never be desired and they are just placeholders etc. Human mating does not work like that. Women always have higher value than men do, regardless of age. Preferences are not wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 10:27 AM
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Accepting reality and being self aware are good things. I know for a fact that when I go on a date or were to approach a woman she would reject me. The fact that you and scumbags like Thenuancepill would laugh at me too for being rejected is another reason to not try.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 10:19 AM
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They are disgusting if they can't make it work. Apps work. If you can't make it work, then that's on you. Then leave?????? A bad relationship is worse than no relationship at all. Ask me how I know. And no, men do not have to "take what they can get." Again, that makes zero mathematical sense given the approximately even distribution of men and women. We women control the dating market, how can most men not take what they can get? They have no power. I have literally never rejected someone with …
/r/ExRedPill24/10/25 08:51 AM
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LMAO. Dating apps don't prove shit. The environment there is completely artificial. Women are forced to be picky because they are vastly outnumbered. Plus those apps attract shallow people and people only looking for hookups in the first place. To say nothing of the fact that they aren't designed to get you into a relationship--they're designed to keep you coming back and paying for premium features. It has nothing to do with the ratio. If you're a man and you can't get anything on apps then you…
/r/ExRedPill24/10/25 08:23 AM
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They are unlovable. App data proves it. Just because a woman is in a long-term relationship with you, it doesn't mean anything. I accept that any woman who is with me likely doesn't even want me. Most men get rejected. They are by definition unlovable.
/r/ExRedPill24/10/25 08:13 AM
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No it's not. That's absurd.
/r/ExRedPill24/10/25 08:01 AM
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https://www.livescience.com/58607-mens-looks-may-matter-more-than-personality.html https://www.zmescience.com/science/news-science/looks-matter-most-on-dating-apps-by-far-and-thats-true-for-both-men-and-women/ Now you prove that confidence is all that matters and that any man can get any woman just by being confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 07:17 AM
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The fact that you can sit here and genuinely claim that looks don't mean anything and that confidence is everything just shows you're completely delusional and bought into the rhetoric. You have no evidence for any of this. Being confident doesn't mean shit to women. When I approach a woman or meet one, I know for a fact that it will be a rejection. I'm confident that it'll go wrong. Does it work like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 07:12 AM
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As it tells men that most are unlovable, which is the brutal reality, it does help. Why on earth would you want to get married as a man? Good for your grandpa, but it's a different era. No woman is special.
/r/ExRedPill24/10/25 07:07 AM
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DM me then.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 06:51 AM
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They're more spread out than women are in terms of intelligence. There's nothing wrong with this. Why do you want more parity to be achieved? Men generally tend to be better at STEM subjects, why is it such an issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 06:50 AM
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I also banged a new girl from Tinder tonight lmao. She messaged me first. I never do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 12:14 AM
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I'm not the one being a pathetic simp by approaching women. Men shouldn't approach. Women view men who do as losers. It's pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 12:09 AM
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Nope. I've never approached but I do fine. Women only want to be approached for ego boost
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 12:08 AM
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They don't though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 12:06 AM
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Why? Because I refuse to simp?: You still haven't answered why I should approach. If I go out and no woman approaches me then I guess I'm not attractive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 12:05 AM
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If you're attractive then women approach you. Women perceive men who approach them as pathetic losers. All you're doing is boosting her ego and simping. What do I get out of approaching?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 12:04 AM
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Why should men put themselves out there?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 12:02 AM
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It is bad advice. Why would I take advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 12:01 AM
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They're not outpacing men in STEM, even with all of the effort to get them in at the expense of men. Men can be good at things and are in fact better than women at many things despite you thinking they're subhuman and stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 12:00 AM
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Yet I'm right.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 11:59 PM
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I did. Your advice is horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 11:58 PM
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If you need to put yourself out there then you're unattractive. Simple. If you need to approach then you are ugly. Women come to you. If you are told that you do not possess a spark then just throw in the towel. You're ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 11:58 PM
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Because personality doesn't matter to women. Most men are capped by their genetics and women's standards keep getting higher. They're better off moving to a different country or region.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 11:55 PM
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Why should women be equal in engineering? Men still dominate STEM by far. Also medicine isn't included in STEM.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 11:39 PM
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It's not just geniuses, but also personality traits like psychopaths. Even today most chess grandmasters are men and men dominate STEM and other areas
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 11:23 PM
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PUA doesn't work for any man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 07:10 PM
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They don't care about personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 07:07 PM
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The guy is a proven liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 07:05 PM
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But most men are unlovable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 07:05 PM
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Men are just more spread out across the spectrum, which is why we see more male geniuses and more male idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 07:04 PM
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How exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 07:01 PM
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Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 07:00 PM
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Men are sent that way as they're not attractive enough for modern women. Playing video games has nothing to do with whether or not you'll get laid lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 07:00 PM
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Most men will never experience raw attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 06:56 PM
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Why aren't men successful anymore, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 06:55 PM
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How do men treat men like babies? If anything it's the opposite and they coddle women and are too harsh on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 06:51 PM
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If you've got to put in effort then she's not attracted. Men are always told to take accountability whilst it's never expected of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 06:48 PM
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Average women don't want average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 06:46 PM
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The only reason a man would get into a relationship is because he's desperate. Women can get a relationship whenever they want. These young women just don't want to pair up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 06:44 PM
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The man above is a liar. He thinks mindset matters in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 06:41 PM
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Dating is just harder for men as women want the top men. Mindset and confidence don't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 06:39 PM
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Last point: Reading the bit about extraversion definitely has destroyed a lot of my confidence. He recommends putting yourself out there and talking to people which is a horrible suggestion and involves a lot of effort. I'd rather just ignore women when I go out unless they talk to me and assume they all find me repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 04:11 PM
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So no matter how short and ugly you are, if you just have confidence and the right mentality, you'll have any girl you want? Wow, how amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 03:59 PM
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To conclude: If you're are being rejected by women it's because of your looks. They don't find you physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 03:57 PM
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You believe in game, bro. You're a fucking clown and don't have a clue. Personality and confidence don't mean shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 03:56 PM
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I mean if all this is true and the secret is to be more outgoing and extroverted, then that's just horrible. Putting in effort is just humiliating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 02:28 PM
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/in-the-name-of-love/202407/is-attractiveness-more-important-than-a-good-personality Conclusion is that you shouldn't even try.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 01:51 PM
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I look at actual evidence to the contrary. Putting yourself out there and approaching women just shows that you're not attractive. If looks don't matter, why do women reject men following first dates by saying there was no "spark/connection"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 01:50 PM
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So answer this: Do you genuinely think that men should put themselves out there and approach women?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 01:46 PM
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If you go to a bar and no woman approaches you, then you are an unattractive man. Simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 01:42 PM
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Why on earth would any man gain confidence from any of what you've posted? All it shows is that putting yourself out there and your personality barely matter. I actually look at actionable advice. You provide doomer nonsense about how putting yourself out there and approaching are somehow good things. Say if you go to a bar and no woman approaches you. What should you do then?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 01:42 PM
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Yet you haven't given any actionable advice about what men should do. Why shouldn't they work to become better looking as it's the most important thing to women? You haven't produced any evidence that confidence and mindset matters, nor that "game" is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 01:40 PM
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When I've been out to bars in the past and no woman approached me it did hurt my confidence. I don't approach them, but I guess it's the nature of the beast. They do approach sometimes, which is how it should be. But sometimes it either goes your way or it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 12:52 PM
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I don't know how any man can read these and gain confidence. In fact reading this article and the others just reinforces that there's no hope unless you're extremely attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 12:49 PM
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You're a good gaslighter, I'll give you that. I look at reality and the real world. If you approach a woman then she sees you as a desperate loser and you're automatically below her. Scumbags like Thenuancepill pretty much sum up how bad the situation is for men. Putting yourself out there is the most embarrassing thing you can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 12:40 PM
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So what is the most important thing for men in dating in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 12:30 PM
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None of those matter. All that matters is whether she finds you attractive. If you need to do things like putting yourself out there, approaching women, etc rather than them actively coming to you then I'm sorry to say you are ugly. Self-reported data doesn't mean anything as we know men lie. If I have to put myself out there, then I have lost. The girl isn't attracted to me. That's pretty simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 12:29 PM
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No it doesn't mean shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 12:27 PM
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Like how your mentality doesn't matter when it comes to dating women?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 12:07 PM
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Your mentality and psyche don't matter. You probably believe in "game." What does it take to get laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 12:00 PM
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You're a troll. You have no evidence for your "confidence matters" and "looks don't matter" propaganda. I bet you believe that "game" works lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 11:58 AM
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They're not. Where is your evidence that confidence matters? Why does it matter? So just be delusional? Confident about what?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 09:51 AM
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Where is your evidence that confidence matters and looks don't matter at all? How on earth can confidence matter? Why would it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 09:47 AM
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It is for most men. The are disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 09:45 AM
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No it doesn't mean shit. Nobody cares about how confident you are, not men or women. Looks is what matters. If I see a woman in person, I know for a fact that if I tried anything then it would be a guaranteed rejection because I look at the data. I tell other meb the same thing. I literally provided you with app data. You haven't provided anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 09:43 AM
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I do well on apps. That's why I don't do simp things like approaching women or sending the first message. How is IRL not shit for most men? They get rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 09:40 AM
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Men often lie on surveys. It doesn't mean much. Going on dates is not simping and being a clown. You are coping because you cant get dates Yes it is. If she were attracted to you, why isn't she coming straight to yours? Dating is the epitome of clowning
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 09:03 AM
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Real life is a terrible waste of time. Confidence and self worth don't mean anything in dating. I actually do very well on apps. Real life is effort though hence why I don't bother unless a woman approaches me. All men should look at a woman in person and realise there is no chance of an approach going well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 08:33 AM
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That's called settling. Yet these days more women are opting out of dating because they can't get Chad. Hence the birth rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 08:31 AM
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They don't. Women only like a small handful of men. What even is your advice to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 08:30 AM
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You just keep admitting that most men are unattractive. If they were attractive they'd be able to obtain casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 08:29 AM
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Most men can't be loved. These men likely aren't even in the woman's first choice and have to simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 08:25 AM
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If you're not getting matches as a man then you are repulsive and ugly. Simple. Real life is shit too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 08:21 AM
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App data. If you're rejected as a man then you are unlovable by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 08:05 AM
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No it doesn't. If you ask a man can't get laid/matches ofg of apps then that proves you're disgusting in the eyes of women. Apps are not high reward for most men on them. They are low reward for low effort. Apps are high reward and low effort. Just because you're too unattractive to use them doesn't mean that they don't work. There are no better alternatives. Real life is high effort no reward. No most men do not struggle to date. Most men do struggle to get casual sex though. THat is to be expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 08:04 AM
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I'd rather listen to actual reality and helpful stuff than your nasty unhelpful rhetoric. The blackpill is actually helpful for men whilst you spread poison.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 07:58 AM
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Most of them are paying for it and most never experience raw attraction. Do you think men can get casual sex easily?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 07:57 AM
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We can look at ACTUAL real life couple right now. They are similar regarding most traits. From education to attractiveness to social status, etc. Those are from older generations. In today's dating market where women want the top men things are extremely different. Get out of your online dating app bubble and your social media rage bait I look at reality. I see what it's like for most men. Why that? Dates are fun Because if she's attracted then you wouldn't need to simp and be a clown.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 07:55 AM
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Every woman no matter how old has a far higher mate value than the vast majority of men. App data is one. The average man has zero mate value.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 07:53 AM
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We've established that a woman being in a relationship with you doesn't mean she desires you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 07:52 AM
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Women like security and power in relationships. Just because she's with you it doesn't mean she's attracted to you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 11:05 PM
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Most men aren't loveable. This is true. Women Find most men unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 10:14 PM
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Truth isn't helpful?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 10:07 PM
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I've tried to help you, but go on.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 10:03 PM
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Mindset doesn't matter. Mentality isn't reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 09:53 PM
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Yes, it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 08:30 PM
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We've established that women do not want men on their level these days. Women are rejecting men much better looking than them these days as they think they can do better. If you need to go on dates then you are a clown.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 08:29 PM
1

Most men are incels or near incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 08:18 PM
1

That's 95% of men as they're unlovable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 08:16 PM
1

The ratio doesn't matter. Real life is the same. You talk as if IRL would be any different. In fact, apps are probably far better as they're low effort and high reward. Do you think most men struggle to date and get casual sex? What's your advice to them? Men shouldn't approach women, don't forget.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 08:12 PM
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Most men take whatever they can get. The first girl that comes along. Women are hypergamous after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 08:10 PM
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Just because a woman is in a relationship with you it doesn't mean she's attracted to you. The woman I'm currently with now I'm sure deep down doesn't even want me. If you go out on a weekend look at the couples. They all aren't models. Most of them of normal looking people doing normal things. Older generations or settling. Most men never experience raw attraction. If you want to lock yourself in a self made prison that leads to men aren't lovable you are going to have a really hard time. And i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 07:03 PM
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It's an objective reality when you look at app data
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 06:49 PM
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You said they are "successful", I asked how? If they're going on dates then they are not successful. It seems like there is something you wish to say. IF so, say it Most men are unlovable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 06:36 PM
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Define successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 06:26 PM
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Men are even rejected by women below their level. Most men take what they can get. The game has changed. Women have unrealistic standards. Plenty of men get rejected by women below their level so you don't have a clue.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 06:26 PM
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Look at how most men fair on dating apps. What do you think the experience is like for most men? If you need to approach them or take them on dates then they're not attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 06:22 PM
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What is the most important thing when it comes to dating for men in 2025? Do you think men should go on dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 06:18 PM
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"Dating" doesn't require skills. Having a social network and hobbies doesn't matter. I bet you believe in "game."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 06:16 PM
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Objectively they were.
/r/ExRedPill22/10/25 06:04 PM
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Sure, getting rejected is not struggling, though. Men find relationship partners when they go for women on their mate value level. Also, it's mathematically impossible that women find relationships quickly on average, while men do not. With women who don't even want them. Women often date the same very attractive guys and as we know from app data; women are disgusted by the average man. Why would a woman be in a relationship with a man she is not attracted to? Are you aware that that is the real…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 05:43 PM
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So what is not true? Women being picky, having lots of options and high standards? Or women picking men who they don't really want. It's called settling and wanting power in the relationship. Most men get rejected, sure, but that is just part of finding a long term partner. just like women take months or years to find a long term partner and get rejected in the meantime So that just means that they're unlovable. If you're rejected as a man then you are unlovable. You just need to be a clown/danc…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 05:41 PM
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Most men get rejected in their lifetimes. Most men have to be circus performers (going on dates). A woman in a relationship with you doesn't mean she's attracted to you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 05:26 PM
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Being in a relationship doesn't mean anything. I realise that even the woman I'm with now probably doesn't even really want me. So that answers your question. I'm just a placeholder. You are aware that most men get rejected, right? Most men have to be clowns/dance monkeys (going on dates, "running game", etc) to even have a chance, yet you think this isn't struggling?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 05:25 PM
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I even know a guy who topped himself because he was told that he didn't possess a connection following a date. Seeing reality for what it is is the best way. You probably believe that there's someone for everyone. I've even been rejected by women several points below my level in the past. It's brutal
/r/ExRedPill22/10/25 05:21 PM
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If one woman rejects you, then all women do. I know plenty of guys who gave up after being rejected following a date. There isn't someone for everyone. That's just a reality. There is no "the one." Not everyone has someone desirable.
/r/ExRedPill22/10/25 05:18 PM
1

I agree. It's men's fault, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 04:37 PM
1

They always get countless men hitting them up on apps so that makes it worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 04:33 PM
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Because most men are disgusting in the eyes of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 04:22 PM
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Most men get rejected. Most men do not have any options. Women Find most men repulsive. How is this not struggling? If this woman doesn't want to sleep with him then he's screwed. Also, most men never experience raw attraction and have to be clowns/dance monkeys (going on dates, approaching, making the first move, etc.) How on earth can you claim this isn't struggling?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 04:21 PM
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Nope, men find most women somewhat attractive. Men typically have very low standards and a high libido. As long as the woman is breathing and isn't obese then men would find her attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 04:06 PM
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He's a fictional character dreamed up by a random Redditor...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 03:41 PM
1

So he did get rejected? Lol Do you agree that most men have no hope?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 03:23 PM
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Men should realise their worth and never approach women as it's a guaranteed rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 03:04 PM
0

What? The red pill literally tells men to improve their lives and take responsibility...
/r/ExRedPill22/10/25 02:59 PM
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But they're not desirable if they are those things. Your reality tells you your place.
/r/ExRedPill22/10/25 02:54 PM
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It is. It's objective. So if you see an attractive woman, why do you know she's out of your league and why are you nervous? Why do men have "approach anxiety"?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 02:53 PM
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No, it just means that when I'm in a relationship with a woman I accept that she probably doesn't even want me anyway. The sexual market place is real and women control it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 02:52 PM
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Jack is a fictional character. In reality men do want average women, whilst women hate average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 02:36 PM
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They do. That's why if I see an attractive girl I know I have no hope and so don't even bother as I know it'll be a no. You need to accept reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 02:24 PM
1

One guy I remember wore a bra. He was quite brazen about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 02:08 PM
1

Why do women reject men above them sometimes?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 02:05 PM
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Most men are. Average women don't want average men, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 01:57 PM
0

Most men do struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 01:56 PM
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Women below my league have rejected me and I have landed women above my league. It's a strange one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 01:55 PM
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The vast majority of men struggle to get anything and take what they can get. Most men experience rejection and so have no hope. Being in a relationship doesn't mean anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 01:53 PM
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If you've got to chase her, then she's not attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 03:00 PM
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As more men should do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 07:18 PM
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I'd rather look at reality than be delusional like you advise. If more men realised that it's a guaranteed rejection if they approached a woman then the world would be a better place.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 06:47 PM
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Most women are in relationships so their standards can't be that unrealistic if it's achievable. That's called settling. And it's for previous generations. It doesn't mean she's attracted to him, as most men will never experience raw attraction. This is a losers mindset. Desperately approaching/not taking no for a answer is looser behavior. Shooting ur shot is generally seen as confident. Your mindset and confidence don't matter. Nobody gives a fuck about how confident you are. Plz get off socia…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 06:39 PM
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Why would I want to get married? No woman is special and you shouldn't over invest in something temporary. I bet you got married lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 03:46 PM
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Why would I get married? What's the point? I don't want to get divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 03:35 PM
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I've shown you dating app data and the birth rates. The women were never truly attracted to the man and so divorced him. Just because she's with you, it doesn't mean that she's attracted to you. You are aware of that, right? You haven't shown an ounce of proof in anything you have said
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 03:33 PM
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Meaning? Lmao they only can only love your genes. Your personality and confidence don't matter. I've already shown you proof with the birth rates and dating app data. You need to show evidence that men are more picky with looks. These men get divorced because the woman was never attracted to them in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 03:27 PM
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Women are eugenicists. They select the best genetics (looks and height). As women view most men as physically repulsive, they are choosing to have fewer kids so that means that inferior men can't hold women to ransom like they could in the past. They needed men for survival but now they don't. Why are you so keen to say that women don't care about looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 03:17 PM
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Different generations and the woman needed the man to survive. As we know that women find most men physically repulsive as per the stats we are seeing fewer births and marriages and most marriages are ending in divorce. This is because the woman was never attracted to him. The only thing they care about is good genetics (looks). You still haven't explained how men are more picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 02:48 PM
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Women don't care for personality. You don't have a clue. I bet you think that men need to approach women. You have no experience or any clue about how women operate. You have no evidence for your claims yet call me emotional. You are a woman in a man's body. You try to be a man but in reality you are effeminate. I hope that you learn one day. Still waiting for your evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 02:37 PM
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So fucking what? Any woman can go and make an account on a dating app and will have access to countless men, regardless of how ugly she is. Men don't run shit. Women control the dating market and are the sexual choosers. They have an endless supply of men and dance monkeys/clowns like you who think they can run game and be attractive. The fact is that game is bullshit and women only really care about looks. If a woman is ugly she will still have an insane SMV as men's standards are so low.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 01:52 PM
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Now I know you're a clown. Men don't have the opportunity to be picky. Women find most men ugly and very few men physically attractive. Men find most women somewhat attractive and have incredibly low standards. That is why you see 2/10 women thinking they're God's gift. You don't have a clue. I bet you think "game" works.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 01:44 PM
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Women want the best genes possible (looks). I already answered your question. Women are extremely picky with looks and app data proves it. Who is more picky with looks out of men and women in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 01:40 PM
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Men take what they can get in dating. Women are the choosers and want the best genes (looks). You have the worst advice and do not know anything about women. I'm probably more masculine than you are. I can at least acknowledge reality. You are a woman in a man's body.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 01:36 PM
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Lmao why would I try and humiliate myself like you're recommending I do by asking them out or approaching? WTF am I going to get out of it? Exactly, nothing. You don't know anything about women or sexual dynamics. Women are extremely selective with men's looks and looks are the most important thing to them. I don't even watch porn. You're the one in need of advice as you don't have a clue about women. The fact that you think that looks don't matter tells me everything. I bet you think "game" wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 01:21 PM
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It doesn't go against the data. Look at app data. Women find most men to be repulsive and most men are unlovable. There are virtually no ugly men dating hot women unless they're paying for it, so you're just a liar. If you're not a very attractive man, you shouldn't even try to ask a woman out or approach one as it's a guaranteed rejection and you'll just be boosting her ego. You need to be extremely attractive as women are very selective about looks. I don't even try because I have some physica…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 01:09 PM
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Men have incredibly low standards for women's looks. Ugly women still have insane value and options. They don't want men on their level. Even hideous women are rejecting decent looking men these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 01:03 PM
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Women will always have an insane SMV no matter how old. Women view most men as repulsive whilst men find most women somewhat attractive. App data proves it. Most men have no SMV or hope and are just unlovable. Women are extremely picky with looks whilst most men take what they can get
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 01:00 PM
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It is the reason why women want to be approached. Why else would they? Why do you think every woman thinks she's a 10 now with unrealistic standards? Ur attention or 1st message isn't anything close to that. But again dating is optional. It still makes you look like a desperate loser and putting her above you. Women view men who approach them as desperate losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 07:42 AM
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There's a difference between fantasy and reality. That's why I tell women I never approach or send the first message as it's effort and all it does is boost her ego. That's a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 06:34 AM
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Men rarely shoot above their league on apps. Most men take what they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 06:15 AM
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They are visual. Far more than men are. They're extremely picky with looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 06:14 AM
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Cold approach is just humiliating and you're being a dance monkey by doing so. You're just boosting her ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 06:12 AM
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It's called fantasy for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 06:03 AM
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I just find it weird that you disagree that most men are unlovable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 09:12 PM
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Given that women have dating on easy mode, that's absurd. Coffee is fine. Dates should be cheap.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 01:04 PM
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Why would she be shy? Women have an extremely low chance of being rejected. The average man has no hope of a woman being attracted to him. When you take her out, what type of date should it be? If it's dinner then she's clearly not attracted. Dates should be cheap. Women should do most of the pursuing. That's key for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:30 AM
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I think your thought pattern is extremely weird as well. The things you want are going to take effort. That's the case with every single area of life. If she's attracted to you, then it's easy. If you need to put in effort like approaching and having to go on dates then she's not attracted. Friendships, family, pets, work, skills, goals etc dating is just 1 more in a long line that requires or benefits from effort. Then you're just not good enough, frankly. Also I think you are vastly overestima…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 07:56 PM
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Well they've been sent their way, so it is what it is. I just find it weird that you think most men have hope and are lovable
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 07:24 PM
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Hence why more men are giving up as they realise they're unlovable and have no hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 07:18 PM
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If I need to approach or send the first message then yes I'm a dance monkey there. Women only want to be approved for validation and the ego boost. That tells you everything. If she's attracted then you don't need to do this buffoonery. Do u think intentionally making friends/ building a social life is dance monkeying? Nope. Because when I befriend men I'm not boosting their egos. Do u think going to clubs and joining hobbies is dance monkeying ? Only if you try to pick up women. Just ignore wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 07:08 PM
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Dating is very hard for the vast majority of men as they'll never experience raw attraction. If you need to approach a woman and be a dance monkey (which is what approaching is), she isn't attracted to you Most men can't afford to be picky and have to take what they can get. Most men are monogamous because she's all he can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 06:56 PM
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If you need to put in effort then she's not attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 06:46 PM
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And those matches don't lead to anything. Women are not attracted to average men. More men should give up, and they are. If you need to put in effort (approaching, going on dates trying to run game, etc) then she's not attracted. More men need to know this. Don't put in effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 06:45 PM
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If you need to take her on a date then she's not attracted to you. What would you say the experience is like for average men! Look at how they do on apps. Most men have been rejected by women. You just admitted they're disgusting and unlovable. If you're rejected, then give up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 06:34 PM
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Paying one way or another. That's why so many men fall for scammer dating coaches. Most men have been rejected by women. They are unlovable therefore.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 06:19 PM
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Yes, they are. Most men have been rejected. Both. Most men are unlovable and will never experience raw attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 05:52 PM
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This is in response to saying that average men should put themselves in as many social settings as possible. The point is that if they're unlovable what difference would it make?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 03:33 PM
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As most are unlovable, why would they try in social settings?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 02:14 PM
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The average man will never experience raw attraction lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 10:30 AM
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If you need to approach me or chase a woman then she's not attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 09:35 AM
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If you need to approach or chase a woman, then she's not attracted. Simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 09:34 AM
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It pretty much is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 08:54 AM
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It's always harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 08:53 AM
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They're not. They're doing what women asked for.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 08:38 AM
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Why are you so keen for men to do such a pointless and humiliating thing like approaching?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 08:28 AM
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If you've got to approach as a man then you've already lost. The woman views you as a desperate dance monkey.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 08:27 AM
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Women need to start taking accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 01:47 PM
1

That's why I tell men to never get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 07:38 PM
1

So if you're told that by a woman that she didn't feel a romantic connection/spark it isn't because she finds you grotesquely hideous?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 07:36 PM
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Source: Reality. Look at stats where women find most men repulsive. You think a woman being in a relationship with you means she wants you lmao. Also, why do women tell men that there was no romantic connection following a date if what I said isn't true?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 11:08 AM
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Because women can't love the average man and most men will never experience raw attraction. You're talking about historical data. More and more women are no longer pairing up because they don't want most men. Why do women go on dates and then tell men that there wasn't a connection or spark if that's not true?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 10:58 AM
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Women now don't want most men due to having access to dating apps and social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 10:50 AM
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Not really, most men take what they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 10:45 AM
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And men who wear bras.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 10:38 AM
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Women only want to be approached for the ego boost and validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 10:37 AM
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Most men will never have a woman who genuinely wants them, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 10:28 AM
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I know a guy on the spectrum who is good-looking. He gets countless matches and likes on apps but often when the woman tells him after a date that there "was no connection", then he always says it's because he's ugly and unlovable. Even though he's had a lot of gfs. He has very black and white thinking and I think it might show up a bit off on dates as he's also very unexpressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 10:01 AM
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If you need to try, then you're not good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 09:34 AM
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Not sure about that. Say if you go on a date with a woman and she tells you that there was "no spark/connection", that's a clear sign that she thinks you're disgusting and hates you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 09:33 AM
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Because those things barely matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 09:25 AM
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NuancePill does love to gaslight, but this is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 09:25 AM
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5'10, 38 lays
/r/seduction22/07/25 01:13 PM
1

What other reasons could it be?
/r/seduction22/07/25 01:12 PM
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Damn, that is so brutal. I never stood a chance. I should have just flaked instead of going on it as there's no way it would have worked out
/r/seduction21/07/25 08:01 AM
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Then why would she randomly message me it in the morning after I hadn't even messaged her? Why would she say it?
/r/seduction20/07/25 08:13 PM
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Yeah I did on her tattoos.
/r/seduction20/07/25 08:12 PM
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Idk man, someone actually told me a few years ago that a woman saying she didn't feel a spark/connection basically means she wants you dead and it stuck with me. What type of vibe should you have on dates?
/r/seduction20/07/25 05:54 PM
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Unless for free drinks.
/r/seduction20/07/25 05:48 PM
0

Why did this one, then?
/r/seduction20/07/25 05:43 PM
0

Tbf I didn't even message her since the date, she just sent me it randomly. She just found me repulsive obviously but it is what it is.
/r/seduction20/07/25 05:26 PM
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Well yeah she didn't want to fuck me because I wasn't attractive enough, hence the date. She just probably just wanted to waste my time. What difference would IRL make?
/r/seduction20/07/25 05:18 PM
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She wasn't going to fuck me anyway no matter what I did.
/r/seduction20/07/25 05:15 PM
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She was the one who ended the date early. She just wasn't attracted at all and just wanted a free drink I guess.
/r/seduction20/07/25 05:13 PM
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Nah she just found me physically repulsive/subhuman. I just wish I hadn't wasted my time and money on some crappy drink with a girl who wasn't attracted.
/r/seduction20/07/25 04:45 PM
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Because that's what women mean when they say it. What is a friendly vibe?
/r/seduction20/07/25 04:38 PM
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Yeah, that's probably where I went wrong.
/r/seduction20/07/25 03:30 PM
1

What else could no connection mean?
/r/seduction20/07/25 02:51 PM
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Ironically I'm also seeing a girl who seems to really like me, but I tend to just focus on the failures like last night and overlook any successes.
/r/seduction20/07/25 12:04 PM
3

Average women don't want average men lol.
/r/seduction15/07/25 12:00 PM
1

Never
/r/seduction15/07/25 11:59 AM
1

Your game is your looks and your looks are your game.
/r/seduction13/07/25 08:15 PM
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I want to be highly sexually attractive to her and her top pic. Husband material just sounds like a simp who doesn't see her best.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 09:05 AM
1

So saying that women like looks is delusional and bitter? It's based on reality. Why try and gaslight?
/r/seduction06/07/25 09:04 AM
1

Doesn't mean much.
/r/ExRedPill01/07/25 02:00 PM
1

I mean, women are very picky. Far more so than men are.
/r/ExRedPill01/07/25 01:59 PM
5

There's not really much you're doing wrong, just look for signs of high interest and go from there.
/r/seduction27/06/25 01:03 PM
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Move on.
/r/seduction27/06/25 12:58 PM
2

The only real "game" is being able to tell when a woman is and isn't attracted to you. Knowing this will save you lots of time and energy.
/r/seduction13/06/25 09:22 AM
1

It's best to go for women choosing you. You don't need "game", just realising when a woman is attracted to you and isn't attracted and going from there.
/r/seduction13/06/25 08:34 AM
1

Why would women need advice to 'pick up" men?
/r/seduction13/06/25 08:31 AM
1

Better than being delusional and cold approaching women
/r/seduction10/06/25 09:05 PM
1

Why would I if I know the result? Guaranteed rejection.
/r/seduction10/06/25 08:57 PM
1

So observing reality that women like looks and they're important is "incel shit"? Lol, you're just delusional and I'm probably far more experienced than you are. I bet you think you can "game" your way into attraction.
/r/seduction10/06/25 03:08 PM
0

Is that relevant? I'm still right either way.
/r/seduction10/06/25 01:42 PM
1

Women primarily like looks. If you don't meet her minimum threshold then it's lights out.
/r/seduction10/06/25 01:40 PM
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They need to be physically/sexually attracted to the guy for anything to happen. Women are extremely selective when it comes to looks. It's really not. You can't just make a woman sexually attracted to you by being funny, that's absurd.
/r/seduction10/06/25 01:34 PM
1

I'm not buying it. How is she going to be attracted to him?
/r/seduction10/06/25 12:06 PM
1

Do they?
/r/seduction10/06/25 11:54 AM
1

Sounds like a lot of effort for no reward.
/r/seduction10/06/25 09:55 AM
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Trying in person is a lot of effort and no reward.
/r/seduction10/06/25 09:52 AM
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Nah, I've been on dates from apps and some have said that we didn't have a spark/connection or anything in common so I gave up after that.
/r/seduction10/06/25 09:41 AM
1

No lol. Pointless.
/r/seduction10/06/25 09:23 AM
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Good for you, bro. Happy for you. But IDK, unless a woman comes up to me I don't really try as I know it'll be a rejection anyway.
/r/seduction10/06/25 09:23 AM
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Never dinner. Drinks or coffee near my place.
/r/seduction06/06/25 03:31 PM
1

I already go on plenty. But where should I go?
/r/seduction02/06/25 04:45 PM
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Because why would I simp? I'm trying to help men not to get scammed by foodie calls. I can afford dinner. I just don't want to waste my money. So let's say I hypothetically can't afford dinner, what should I do once I have more money and can afford it?
/r/seduction02/06/25 01:34 PM
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You need dinner because you know you can't get any otherwise. I'm not limiting myself. I know what works. I can afford it. Just why would I do it? Give me one example of when I should take some random hoe out to dinner when I haven't already smashed them
/r/seduction02/06/25 12:58 PM
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I'm off to Manchester on a stag soon. It will be interesting to see. Sheffield and Leeds were good.
/r/seduction02/06/25 11:35 AM
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They do, but women don't like men doing it to them lol.
/r/seduction02/06/25 10:53 AM
1

Right, so what exactly do you expect to do on these "three to four dates"?
/r/seduction02/06/25 10:22 AM
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Pretty sure most women don't want to be approached.
/r/seduction02/06/25 08:40 AM
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Dates should be cheap. Now answer my question: if she were attracted to you, why would you need to take her out to dinner before smashing?
/r/seduction02/06/25 07:56 AM
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Says the simp who needs to buy women's affection. You still haven't explained why I'd agree to her ridiculous offer of dinner. Give me one reason why I'd waste time and money.
/r/seduction01/06/25 11:15 PM
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Yeah, ofc I'd say no. If she were saying that she's likely looking for a free meal or a beta provider. That's a huge red flag. Why on earth would she suggest it otherwise? I can afford it, I just don't need to do it as I date women who are actually attracted to me. Unlike you. Make more money and then what? I do fine. Even if I were a multi millionaire I would never take some random whore out to dinner. You're insane. You're the one who is clueless. You don't even realise you're being used.
/r/seduction01/06/25 10:54 PM
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Nah, I've given up. A woman told me after a date on Thursday that we didn't have much in common and so I have lost all hope lol.
/r/seduction01/06/25 07:47 AM
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Women don't want to meet men at those events. I already have friends so I go and see them.
/r/seduction01/06/25 07:42 AM
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No, women just want an ego boost and validation from being approached.
/r/seduction01/06/25 07:26 AM
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Why would you want to waste time being social? What social events?
/r/seduction01/06/25 07:22 AM
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If women aren't making it easy to smash and if you need to go out of your way to meet them, you're ugly.
/r/seduction01/06/25 07:19 AM
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Because I want to meet women I'm attracted to. If I'm required to take her to dinner before smashing, then she's clearly not attracted to me. Why waste my time? I told you why it's a stupid idea. This same girl has smashed loads of guys who didn't have to take her to some stupid dinner, whilst you're required to do so. That's the definition of simping. However if you want to waste time with a woman who is using you and isn't attracted to you, be my guest. Why would I be eliminating opportunities…
/r/seduction01/06/25 07:17 AM
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If you need to put yourself out there, you've lost.
/r/seduction31/05/25 11:44 PM
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But why the fuck would I dinner for me and her? Why can't I eat at home? If it's her birthday and I'm smashing, then sure I might do it as a one off. But why the fuck would I do it when I haven't even smashed? Explain your absurd reasoning. At least coffee and dinner is quick and most likely cheap. Dates should be cheap. Even better if she comes over and smashed straight away without you paying anything. Or just going for a walk. Give me ONE reason why I should go on some stupid dinner date? If …
/r/seduction30/05/25 09:44 PM
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I can buy dinner for myself. I can meet her after. If she wants dinner she can eat it by herself on the date. Taking a woman to dinner just shows you're unattractive as you wouldn't need to do it she were truly attracted to you. Why waste your money on some girl just so she can back and smash the guy she's actually attracted to? Is it to keep her energy up? I'm sure he's grateful. If you want to get scammed by foodie calls, then be my guest: https://nypost.com/2019/06/21/a-third-of-women-only-da…
/r/seduction30/05/25 12:51 PM
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Because getting a number doesn't mean shit.
/r/seduction29/05/25 10:42 AM
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Says the simp
/r/seduction28/05/25 06:07 PM
2

Women rarely date below in looks and if they do then they've got nefarious plans in most cases. Just because you see them together, it doesn't mean anything.
/r/seduction28/05/25 02:12 PM
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And yet the guy who she's attracted to doesn't need to do that nonsense. If you need to rely on your money, then she's not attracted. I'll never let a girl know how much money I have. You're just setting yourself up as a mark. Horrible advice. It is simping. You don't know what you're talking about. You're not attractive enough to get her so you need to resort to paying.
/r/seduction28/05/25 02:00 PM
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Yes, I do. I have it by myself. If it's a GF or girl I've already smashed loads of times then it's different. You feel you need to take them out because you're not attractive enough so have the bribe them. Why would I take some random hoe out to dinner? What's in it for me?
/r/seduction27/05/25 05:44 PM
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Or just asking them out/starting a conversation.
/r/seduction27/05/25 03:15 PM
1

But women don't want men approaching them in person.
/r/seduction27/05/25 02:14 PM
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Sounds awful.
/r/seduction27/05/25 02:02 PM
1

Me. I only do online
/r/seduction27/05/25 02:02 PM
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If she's annoyed at coffee, then she doesn't like you. Dates should be cheap.
/r/seduction27/05/25 01:13 PM
1

Other than boosting their egos, why would women want to be approached?
/r/seduction27/05/25 12:17 PM
1

She's a dating coach... Never trust a dating coach.
/r/seduction27/05/25 12:17 PM
1

Brutal data for men.
/r/seduction27/05/25 12:11 PM
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It is stupid for a first date/before you've smashed. You're not attractive bro. Face it I can take myself to dinner, not some random hoe.
/r/seduction27/05/25 12:10 PM
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You still haven't given a single reason to go out to some silly dinner. They need to earn that.
/r/seduction27/05/25 10:41 AM
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More than you, clearly. Why do you advise that men take women out to dinner? Explain.
/r/seduction27/05/25 09:23 AM
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Why are you so keen for me to approach? What is the point? Is it to humiliate me or something?
/r/seduction27/05/25 08:18 AM
1

Right, so how do you seduce exactly? Women seduce men. Probably been with more women than you have. I bet you approach women too lmao. No wonder you need to take them out to dinner as you know you're a loser.
/r/seduction27/05/25 08:10 AM
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Horrible and quite Frankly harmful advice
/r/seduction27/05/25 08:07 AM
1

She literally told me I don't have a connection or spark. That means she thinks no woman will ever want me.
/r/seduction27/05/25 08:03 AM
1

So why do you think dinner will help guys? Explain.
/r/seduction27/05/25 08:01 AM
1

So if a woman has told me before that I don't have a spark/connection following a date, why wouldn't it be guaranteed? Answer. Explain why you think it's not guaranteed.
/r/seduction27/05/25 08:01 AM
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Okay, bro. Women don't want to be approached so it's always creepy Why isn't it a guaranteed rejection? If you've been rejected before then it's guaranteed.
/r/seduction27/05/25 07:58 AM
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Because they're attracted to me. Again, why should I approach if it's guaranteed to be a rejection? What benefit would I get out of approaching? None
/r/seduction27/05/25 07:57 AM
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Help others with what? I'm not spending hundreds/thousands on some shitty dinner. Women are only turned on physically. If they liked you you wouldn't do this nonsense. Your advice is really bad. It obviously won't help others.
/r/seduction27/05/25 07:56 AM
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So why dinner? Why not a quick drink or coffee? Explain. Something cheap and low effort.
/r/seduction27/05/25 07:54 AM
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And why should I approach if it's a guaranteed rejection with zero reward?
/r/seduction27/05/25 07:53 AM
1

Because they're the choosers. They can show me they're attracted. If a woman doesn't make it easy, she's not attracted. Why don't you fight a grizzly bear? That has about as much chance of going well as an approach.
/r/seduction27/05/25 07:53 AM
1

Still get thousands of Tinder likes and matches. Hundreds on Hinge. I just don't need to approach as it's guaranteed to be a rejection. Great advice, bro.
/r/seduction27/05/25 07:52 AM
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I do fine. Again, why should I boost their egos?
/r/seduction27/05/25 07:49 AM
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Okay, bro. Just get arrested for approaching women. Women don't want to be approached other than to boost their egos.
/r/seduction27/05/25 07:49 AM
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Because I'm not going to boost their ego and women don't want to be approached. Why should I give them attention if they haven't done anything for me?
/r/seduction27/05/25 07:48 AM
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Because I'm trying to help you. You are going out with women who aren't attracted to you, hence why you are going on silly dinners. Why are you going out with women who aren't 100% attracted to you? If she's not attracted to you, then why bother? And even so, why even go out to some stupid dinner? Explain your logic. Why? What is your reason? I'm trying to help you not get scammed, bro. Maybe you just have a fetish for being a simp for a girl who then goes and fucks guys after you've taken her o…
/r/seduction27/05/25 07:47 AM
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Well, yeah. If she's attracted to you then you don't need to simp or be a dance Monkey, which is what you're suggesting. The men they're attracted to don't need to do this shit. Now answer me why you're going out with girls who aren't attracted to you. You probably subconsciously know that you're not attractive, hence why you do it.
/r/seduction27/05/25 07:37 AM
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I can afford it, just why would I do it? You haven't given a reason why I should spend that on a woman I'm not smashing. Your advice is to simp. That's pathetic. Why don't you go out with women who are attracted to you? Answer my question. If she were attracted then you wouldn't need to go out to some silly dinner until you've already smashed a few times
/r/seduction27/05/25 07:29 AM
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But why would you go to dinner with one? Do you like getting scammed? It's just weird. https://nypost.com/2019/06/21/a-third-of-women-only-date-men-because-of-the-free-food-study/
/r/seduction27/05/25 07:18 AM
2

Why are you going on dinner dates with 10s? Why not a quick drink or coffee or straight to yours? Did you already smash her before? Simping is never acceptable bro.
/r/seduction27/05/25 07:16 AM
0

Or get arrested.
/r/seduction27/05/25 06:58 AM
2

If you say so. Dinner is simping.
/r/seduction27/05/25 06:52 AM
1

Yeah I gathered that as well. My friend said some were looking at me but they never approached. I think they're a bit more traditional in expecting men to approach first
/r/seduction26/05/25 11:20 PM
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It's not a skill, she either likes you or she doesn't. If they're attracted, why aren't they making the first move? It's bad because it's the sole reason why women want to be approached more.
/r/seduction26/05/25 09:08 PM
0

I've already done those things. If you need to pursue, then she's likely not interested. So rather than just boosting her ego, why should I approach?
/r/seduction26/05/25 06:41 PM
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Better than dinner.
/r/seduction26/05/25 06:39 PM
1

They only want to be approached to boost their egos. That's why men shouldn't approach. They reject me because they're not attracted. It's as simple as that. It's got nothing to do with my mentality. It's not my role as a man to approach. Women go after the men they want.
/r/seduction26/05/25 05:35 PM
1

Why would it need to be high investment? Why aren't you going to women who are attracted to you?
/r/seduction26/05/25 05:19 PM
1

But isn't it good if fewer men approached women? There's nothing wrong with apps. It's at least low effort and high reward, whilst in person is high effort no reward.
/r/seduction26/05/25 04:49 PM
1

Because you're unattractive.
/r/seduction26/05/25 04:37 PM
1

Why are they tired of apps? I also hear women saying that men no longer approach which I admit is a good thing, too.
/r/seduction26/05/25 04:34 PM
-1

So how do women really feel about men approaching, then? They're always saying they want to be left alone and that it's creepy.
/r/seduction26/05/25 04:28 PM
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Why would the next one be different? Women also don't want men to approach them as they see these men as desperate losers and it just boosts their ego.
/r/seduction26/05/25 04:17 PM
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Yes, I do. I eat it by myself. Why would I want someone with me unless they're a friend or a GF? It is bad advice. If she were attracted to you you wouldn't need to do such stupid shit like a silly dinner.
/r/seduction26/05/25 04:14 PM
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If she's attracted to you, then you wouldn't need to take her out to dinner.
/r/seduction26/05/25 04:12 PM
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It's a common date idea if you're a simp. If you were attractive, you wouldn't need to do that shit. If a woman were to suggest dinner to me then I'd move on as it's a scam. IDC how hot she is. It's not. If she attracted to you, why would you need to simp? You wouldn't need to take her out before. You haven't answered my question. Go out by yourself to a fancy meal. Only take a girl there once you've smashed as you then at least know she's attracted to you. I bet you brag to women about your mon…
/r/seduction26/05/25 04:11 PM
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These same ones who smashed all these men who didn't have to pay for anything? If they were attracted to you, why are you taking them out on some silly dinner? It's because you know subconsciously that you're not good enough. Attractive men don't do dinner dates.
/r/seduction26/05/25 04:06 PM
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Lol what?
/r/seduction26/05/25 04:04 PM
1

https://nypost.com/2019/06/21/a-third-of-women-only-date-men-because-of-the-free-food-study/
/r/seduction26/05/25 04:03 PM
1

https://nypost.com/2019/06/21/a-third-of-women-only-date-men-because-of-the-free-food-study/
/r/seduction26/05/25 04:03 PM
1

https://nypost.com/2019/06/21/a-third-of-women-only-date-men-because-of-the-free-food-study/
/r/seduction26/05/25 04:03 PM
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And yet you're the one who knows he's so unattractive he's got to simp and pay for dinner 😭 These same "9s and 10s" have smashed loads of guys who haven't paid a penny for dinner, yet you're the 💩 head who is required to take them out. https://nypost.com/2019/06/21/a-third-of-women-only-date-men-because-of-the-free-food-study/
/r/seduction26/05/25 04:02 PM
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Keep allowing yourself to get scammed by foodie calls: https://nypost.com/2019/06/21/a-third-of-women-only-date-men-because-of-the-free-food-study/
/r/seduction26/05/25 04:00 PM
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No simping.
/r/seduction26/05/25 03:58 PM
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He sounds like a simp.
/r/seduction26/05/25 03:58 PM
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Keep simping, bro.
/r/seduction26/05/25 03:57 PM
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Yeah, for YOU because you're not attractive enough. You need to do them. That's simping. Imagine having to pay for some stupid dinner for a girl you haven't even smashed. You're a joker. If she were attracted to you, then you wouldn't need to take her out to some bullshit restaurant. Keep simping bro. Keep being a target for scammers/foodie calls. That's great advice. If you need to put in effort, then you've lost.
/r/seduction26/05/25 03:56 PM
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Yes, it does. You feel the need to take her out on some bullshit dinner because you know you're not attractive enough. That is simping. Attractive guys don't need to do that shit. You're a simp.
/r/seduction26/05/25 03:50 PM
1

Just because you need to simp, doesn't mean we all do.
/r/seduction26/05/25 03:48 PM
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Yes, you can. You don't need to simp. If she's attracted to you then you don't need to take her out to some bullshit restaurant.
/r/seduction26/05/25 03:48 PM
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If she were attracted to you, why would you need to take her out to some silly restaurant? Sex first, dinner later.
/r/seduction26/05/25 03:47 PM
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If a girl were to suggest dinner to me before I've smashed, I'd know it's a scam. Foodie calls are a thing. Even if we both liked food and there was a cool spot nearby, she needs to earn it.
/r/seduction26/05/25 03:46 PM
1

Brutal. Why don't you go for women who are attracted to you?
/r/seduction26/05/25 03:44 PM
3

Never do dinner until you've smashed.
/r/seduction26/05/25 03:43 PM
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No dinner before sex.
/r/seduction26/05/25 03:42 PM
2

Why, though? If she's attracted to you you don't need to simp and take her out to dinner
/r/seduction26/05/25 03:41 PM
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Brutal. I don't see why you'd want to do it before. Date women who are attracted to you. If they require dinner before sex, then they aren't attracted.
/r/seduction26/05/25 03:40 PM
2

Why are you going on dinner dates in the first place? Why not date women who you know are attracted to you? Go get good food on your own or with a GF or wife
/r/seduction26/05/25 03:38 PM
0

Sounds like a lot of effort.
/r/seduction26/05/25 03:37 PM
1

Coffee is okay, it's cheap.
/r/seduction26/05/25 03:36 PM
1

Do you do it before or after you have smashed?
/r/seduction26/05/25 03:35 PM
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Because why simp?
/r/seduction26/05/25 03:33 PM
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Only after you've smashed her If you need to do dinner, then you're a simp.
/r/seduction26/05/25 03:31 PM
0

Because I've been rejected before.
/r/seduction26/05/25 03:29 PM
0

Fair enough, at least I didn't add to the creep atmosphere by approaching.
/r/seduction26/05/25 02:19 PM
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It's a bit like approaching women, which is a pointless endeavour with no reward.
/r/seduction26/05/25 01:52 PM
1

Lol I have had girls offer to be friends after we've dated/smashed. It seems pointless.
/r/seduction26/05/25 09:05 AM
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I remember I dated this girl with male friends for a bit. Never again. It's a huge red flag.
/r/seduction26/05/25 08:32 AM
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If you're so attractive, why isn't your "friend" letting you smash?
/r/seduction26/05/25 08:29 AM
0

None of that will make you attractive I don't really have female friends because my interests are very male centered. it's not that I mistreat women I must've jt have much in common with most.
/r/seduction26/05/25 08:22 AM
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Get the number instead. If she gives you her IG she's likely just looking for another follower.
/r/seduction16/05/25 08:13 AM
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