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| -1 | What patriarchy really isThat's just the patriarchy. Men have been made into what they are by sexual selection, but that doesn't mean they don't hold institutional power. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/12/23 05:00 AM |
| 1 | Anyone else realize that most women don't really respect progressive men?I think at its best MRA is about reforming an outdated set of expectations that are tied to masculinity. Seems pretty prog! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/06/22 02:57 AM |
| 1 | Being a left-wing male advocate is a special kind of hellHey I'm Canadian too, and yeah I just remembered that number from some work training. I am open to believing it's an overestimate, and it's awkward to put that Cuomo story or something like the Borat Giuliani scene in the same category as rape. There are a lot more leering authority figures, mosh pit gropers, and overly-persistent drunk men than instances of forced penetration. Of the women I have known well enough to talk about this, most are resigned to the first three things, and I know a few… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/06/22 06:26 PM |
| 0 | Being a left-wing male advocate is a special kind of hellI think you're lost in the sauce, my friend. You as a male advocate must feel the weight of gender roles. You'll agree that men have long been denied custody because they are seen as less nurturing (and other nonsense). Aren't men and women both hurt by gendered expectations and power dynamics that create injustice? This sentiment is where you can relate to feminists, and maybe even draw them out of simple man-hate. Maybe start a trend of calling it "genderarchy" haha. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/06/22 03:35 AM |
| 1 | Being a left-wing male advocate is a special kind of hellYeah, I feel the same. I think the part we disagree on is whether the word "feminism" should be thrown out yet. Considering what advocacy has done for women since feminism's inception 150+ years ago, I and many others feel like the term is bigger than NOW & their ilk. But, maybe you're right. "Womanism" as a word is catching on. We are mostly on semantics now, and I think your values are ok, just like most of the "feminists" I have met! Around one in three women have been sexually assaulted, mos… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/06/22 03:07 AM |
| 0 | Being a left-wing male advocate is a special kind of hellIt doesn't presume anything about men. It is about women liberating themselves from oppressive gendered systems, just as we are trying to do for men here in this sub. You seem to think feminists are misandrist pigs, well many of them say this community is full of misogynist pigs! Most people in both groups have good values and a lot more in common than they realize. Neither really hates the other, just the extremists who both should denounce. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/06/22 02:36 AM |
| 2 | Being a left-wing male advocate is a special kind of hellOh ok. I'm totally sold on NOW, and any groups threatening to cut up men being labelled creeps and disbanded. Ppl who would deny male victims sympathy and help suck. I just think if you support men's advocacy you should naturally support women's advocacy as well, which we usually call feminism. Both movements are at their core struggling against stifling rules, expectations, and power dynamics. Both have some scummy subgroups within or associated with them, and in neither case should we throw th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/06/22 01:17 AM |
| 1 | Being a left-wing male advocate is a special kind of hellOh no you're doing good! I meant the OP of the thread. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/06/22 12:18 AM |
| 1 | Being a left-wing male advocate is a special kind of hellOur common ground is that men's lib is being slept on institutionally. That's why I'm on this sub! Rewriting abortion laws shows there is an antifeminist current in politics too and we should side with feminism on those issues. Doesn't calling feminism a repulsive vomit ideology (-OP) seem like a bad tone to set? Our common enemies are corrupt gov, corporate capitalism, and outdated gender roles. Does women's lib have to come at the cost of men's lib? If a woman batters a man, she's at fault he'… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/06/22 04:16 PM |
| -4 | Being a left-wing male advocate is a special kind of hellI looked at this stuff and agree about a lot. Advocating against joint custody - depressing Supporting false accusers - antibased mafia bs M->F only idea of rape - hamurabic code energy Isn't patriarchy behind the ridicule and disbelief of battered men? "Women are weak, men are strong and should figure it out" etc. In some feminist discourse replace the "strong" with "privileged" and this old concept has new life. It's the vitriol in the OP discussing feminism that seems off. Advocacy for women … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/06/22 07:56 AM |
| 0 | Being a left-wing male advocate is a special kind of hellI am interested and even open to be persuaded, but am unable to dig up much about this list. NOW seems like a regular large libfem organization, cringe but not especially evil? A few DV shelters for men are appearing now, is there feminist pushback against that? It makes sense that most battered women might prefer a recovery environment without men, but a bummer that it could leave men (+NB & trans) without the same care. This requires action I agree. Does it categorically make feminism an agres… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/06/22 02:39 PM |
| 3 | Anyone else realize that most women don't really respect progressive men?Most outcasts grow into themselves and become normal-functioning 40 year old men with partners haha. Gender roles are crumbling, but individual women still have their biological preferences. The perspective you gain as an outsider can make you an interesting and funny person, which is a very attractive and ideologically-infectious way to be :) | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/06/22 05:07 AM |
| -4 | Being a left-wing male advocate is a special kind of hellSurprised to hear it said that the Dems have a feminist agenda. Last I heard, the US didn't even have paid maternity leave, and dems aren't doing much about the localized abortion bans. May I suggest that the big money boys and the lizards in office want you fighting a culture war against percieved feminist aggression? How many "crazy left" folks do you know irl? I would argue that most people of all political stripes have their values in the right place, many just struggle with fear or trauma, … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/06/22 04:11 AM |
| 6 | Anyone else realize that most women don't really respect progressive men?Men who easily fit masculine gender roles struggle less in life which makes them less likely to question the systems that hold them up. Men who struggle to play the part will gravitate to ideologies that want to tear down the injust system. You rarely see rich people advocating for economic revolution or cisgender men wanting to do away with the gender binary. Progressive ideologies attract male outsiders who struggle to perform their gender roles, and it is this outsider misfit quality and the … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/06/22 03:45 AM |
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