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Because people who’ve experienced connection feel bad for people who haven’t and want to help them? And I do say the latter a lot when it’s clear people just want to be victims and complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:09 PM
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People say it unprompted.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:08 PM
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Because they’re the ones bringing up the topic for internet strangers to respond to them on.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:06 PM
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A lot of men are experiencing what teenage girls experience (the fear they are not good enough for not being whatever social media and pop culture says is attractive) but never learning that society is attracted to normal people. When I was a teenager, I’d see posts from friends about not being good enough because their ass and boobs aren’t big enough. The stuff about not being good enough for not being tall or rich enough is the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:44 PM
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Yes! If you want it, of course. If a volcano was erupting and you had a 5% chance to escape, would you try or just give up and die?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:13 PM
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I like how you jump to conclusions over and over and whine about being misread.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:04 PM
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Are you schizophrenic? What is this? I’m telling dudes to not worry about being rejected and you come up with all this nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:03 PM
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Then why are you whining on the internet about rejection? Ironic you say speed dating is for wusses but write a whole whiny diatribe about rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:01 PM
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You don’t have to be a sociopath to not care about rejection, you just have to not be weak. You just like to pretend men more outgoing than you are shitty people because it makes you feel better about yourself for being too insecure to approach women because you are so weak rejection will cause lasting pain. You think men who approach women haven’t been rejected? Please. You’re a dude whining about not getting laid on the internet. You are no authority on what confidence is and how confident men…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:22 PM
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What? I never said that. They just have social skills. Men with social skills can sense the same thing. The fact that you’re acting like it’s a mind reading power shows you have no social skills. Trust me, you’re funnier.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:17 PM
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It is. Most people are looking for a long term partner, not to be told they’re attractive. Maybe for insecure people like you, being hit on for your looks is everything, but it actually sucks because it makes finding a real connection harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:16 PM
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Yeah, assuming you’ll be rejected is insecure. I’m a man. Stop making excuses to be a wuss. And go outside. Paying to pad their undeserved ego? Christ. Definitely don’t have a girlfriend or friends who are women with that attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:13 PM
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You think it’s a waste of time for you. Guess you don’t want a relationship that badly. And being conventionally attractive isn’t necessarily better. People pretend they want you. They even convince themselves. Dating someone and then finding out they never actually really liked you sucks. At least when people aren’t going for your looks, you know they actually want you for your personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 02:58 PM
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So what? Yeah, conventionally attractive people are going to be wanted more off the bat for their looks, but that doesn’t mean people want them for who they are, which ultimately matters more. Someone can be conventionally attractive and struggle to connect with people and filter through people who pretend to like them just because they’re attractive. People who aren’t conventionally attractive can still date, even if more people aren’t interested in them off the bat. They know fewer people will…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 02:43 PM
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Usually, it’s because they have social skills and can carry a conversation and find who they’re compatible with. They take an approach of just getting to know people and seeing what happens instead of trying to get women to like them. Women can sense when men are trying to get them to like them, and that makes interactions feel unnatural and usually makes forming a romantic connection far less likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 02:39 PM
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I meant no one knows before they even get into situations where they see people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:48 AM
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I mean, people who start out successful don't get into defeatist narratives. It doesn't make the narrative correct. Just because you don't know what's not working doesn't mean it's something you can't change.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 02:16 AM
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I’m a man. You don’t have to be secure or devoid of social anxiety to date. Many anxious, insecure people date. You have to put yourself out there. But too many men conclude they fail, never try, and go on the internet and complain about it. The main reason confident people do better is they try more. They aren’t necessarily more likable. People easily become annoying when they lack self-doubt. You really have to stop telling yourself defeatist narratives or you won’t try, and you won’t succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 12:49 AM
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You think patriarchy is fantasy? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 10:57 PM
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It is. It’s one of those things you just have to go into the world to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 09:47 PM
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Finding who you’re compatible with involves lots of rejection regardless of who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 09:44 PM
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Nobody faces little to no rejection unless they don’t try.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 09:34 PM
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What are you even talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 06:36 PM
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Men don’t equate emotions with sex if they are self-aware. Men can be emotional with other men if they drop the idea it makes them not a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 06:24 PM
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I’m talking about men shaming men for being emotional. We wouldn’t have am issue with male emotions if they weren’t so sexualized Can you elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 06:21 PM
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Yeah, that’s because a lot of men grow up emotionally stunted from having the humanity shamed out of them. It’s not healthy, baseline male behavior. It’s a result of society telling men emotions are for women and leaving them crippled in their ability to process their own feelings and have relationships. Men who learn how to have emotions and not be ashamed of it and to have deep relationships don’t participate in those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 06:07 PM
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I don’t think men have higher sex drives. I think many don’t know how to deal with the weight being placed on them to initiate without being desperate, and they haven’t had as many close friendships as women so the gulf between friendly and intimacy isn’t as big for them. Women aren’t the only ones who enjoy sex more with connection involved, a lot of men are just too emotionally stunted on account of telling themselves feelings are for women, and too lacking in self-awareness to get to that poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 05:55 PM
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No, you can’t. Confident people don’t care about rejection. The average person who goes out regularly to meet single people rejects and gets rejected countless times. Most rejection is lack of compatibility. Hella people talk to people, realize it’s not happening, and move on. The more you do it, the easier it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 05:24 PM
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Not necessarily. People can move. It’s not just people who can’t meet people otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 05:21 PM
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As a man, I think a lot of men have a scarcity mindset about sex and dating and feel as though they will be alone unless they try to treat every possible connection with a woman as a chance to date or get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 05:20 PM
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No one “knows” they will be rejected. There is always someone less attractive than you who does better at dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 05:09 PM
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Correct, the answer is social anxiety and insecurity among men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 05:08 PM
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The Big Bang theory has hard science backing it up. Don’t straw man. But, when it is feminism trying to change evopsych to fits own narrative, then it's not? Rejecting evopsych is not trying to change it to fit a narrative. You don’t need to change anything if you’re rejecting it. This is a stupid argument. I’ve said all I need to say. Blocking you because I’m tired of your dumb arguments and repeating myself. I can explain stuff to you but I can’t understand it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 08:46 PM
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Evopsych is hardly even science. It’s speculation about the evolution of minds. Psychology on its own is a soft science and it’s even softer than that. Not taking speculation (especially when it’s fueled by people wanting to pretend misogyny is the natural and correct way to do things) as fact is not attempting to create a speculative narrative, same as how absence of belief in a deity is not a religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 08:21 PM
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So it’s not evopsych. That’s like saying atheism is Christianity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 08:01 PM
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That’s not evopsych.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 07:52 PM
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Where?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 01:39 PM
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Where?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 01:38 PM
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79.3% of men and 64.0% of women reported seeking a short-term mate in some way. That doesn’t mean they want to all the time. IMO hooking up is a bigger deal to people who feel like they can’t do it than ones who can. Most people are open to it, but most people after some experience prefer deeper relationships and the better sex that comes from learning people’s preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 06:29 AM

Yeah, you just don’t see the feminist side coming up with evopsych bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 04:47 PM

Redpill dudes are the male equivalent of crazy feminists but they don’t realize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 04:44 PM

People need to stop pretending their inability to date is a universal problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 04:43 PM
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This needs to get talked about more, but it's unfortunately seen as insulting to redpillers. I've had multiple posts deleted for "circlejerking" for trying to bring up this point. It's like the mods don't want a thread about how redpill comes from being chronically online and lacking social skills because they want redpill ideology to look more legitimate than just some pseudoscience made up by basement dwellers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 02:34 PM
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>I think the motivation for denial in some redpill guys is trying to pretend that everything is fine, if only women had reasonable standards. The funny part is standards like height and money are not as much obstacles to dating as believing women are all hung up on height and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 02:31 PM
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>But it's not just Redpill men perpetuating the stupid idea that men's only problem is sexlessness; it's women who are always reducing men's issues down to "boo hoo you can't get your little dick wet". To be fair, that is a common issue. A lot of dudes are sexually frustrated but don't have the self-awareness or emotional intelligence to process it in a healthy way, so they just whine on social media about they are too short for women to date and that makes women terrible and shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 02:30 PM
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People get into redpill in the first place because they fail to date, and their failure to date is a lack of social skills often from being on the spectrum. That's why redpill is so ridiculous and only makes sense to redpillers; they're the only people lacking enough in social skills and insecure enough to think it makes any sense. Most people just go for who they like and see if they're compatible, and they're not hung up on value judgments or imaginary power dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 02:29 PM
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You not having seen something doesn't matter because your responses indicate a lack of experience socializing in the real world as an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 02:20 PM
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I’ve never met an ugly player, seems like on the internet according to women this is somehow common. Then go outside and make friends. You keep throwing around your chronically online anecdotal arguments like they mean anything when really they just reveal your lack of social skills and experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 02:19 PM
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>I never seen a single man say no to a very attractive woman he didn’t know. LOL. This is the most telltale sign you don't have much or any social life. This happens all the time because there are many men out there who are not as desperate as you. Not every dude is so desperate they will go for any woman who is hot enough. Do you realize how much you're telling on yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 02:16 PM
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Why do redpillers think "I'm so right" is a good argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 02:15 PM
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No, it's just when people come up with oversimplified, chronically online takes on women, people disagree with them because they've been outside before.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 02:15 PM
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>You can’t be in the market for generally universal desirable men and say well they cannot be sluts, some of those desirable guys won’t be, but that luxury for no woman exists. Lol "generally universal." What a weasel phrase. What kind of chronically online shit is this? You can be desirable to women and not have interest in being a player. Not everyone who can have casual sex is interested in it. Insecure men who worry they can't have casual sex want it more than secure, attractive men who can.…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 02:14 PM
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Why do you care so much about it? Why does this occupy your mind? The situations of hypothetical people have nothing to do with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 02:11 PM
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Anyone thinking of people in terms of high or low value is insecure. "How do I rank?! Am I high value?! Do I get approval?!"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 02:10 PM
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Lol not for emotionally healthy people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 02:09 PM
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Sad people need to stop pretending their sadness is objective truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 01:59 PM

Anyone who worries this much about ranking people is insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 01:55 PM
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Because men who complain are more chronically online.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:29 PM
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It’s less luck and more the ability to find who you’re compatible with. Too many men try a one-size-fits-all approach to getting a woman to like them because they’re going for any woman, not particular ones they’re compatible with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:06 PM
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It is for people who want fulfilling lives and better sex. People in healthy, long-term relationships have the best and most sex. Having a connection with someone you’re attracted to and growing with them over time is a lot more interesting and exciting than having superficial interactions with new people all the time, having sex, and then moving on. Sex is better when you and a partner learn each other’s bodies and preferences over time. Much better to have the person who can consistently give …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:54 PM
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Lol so your heuristic is better? Redpillers love to just make up a chain of assumptions that makes them correct and act like it’s self-evident.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:49 PM
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I don’t dislike it. I just think it’s incorrect. It’s basically just people projecting these simplistic archetypal ideas of men and women that are biased from their own experiences onto humanity as a whole and pretending it’s scientific with cherrypicked studies and heavy speculation portrayed as fact. I’m a man and I never needed a guide to date. I only found out about redpill from r/all and I’ve always found it to be cringy and at times comical. It acts like the only way to get a woman to like…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 03:45 PM
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You just have to be vulnerable. If they lose attraction, they weren’t worth it. Some women are more attracted to men who are vulnerable, but you won’t find them by not being vulnerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 03:20 PM
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Don’t generalize. I’m a man and I think gender roles are stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:44 PM
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It makes half of society into uneducated baby and cleaning machines, which stifles productivity and innovation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:44 PM
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Or they just got into a relationship because they had social skills and they’re trying to teach other people to have social skills so they can get into relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:40 PM
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It does give them authority. A long-term relationship is the ultimate goal, right? Then you listen to the people in them. The people who know how to get a date but are always single are not who you should be imitating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:39 PM

It does have something to do with being incapable and unintelligent. Nothing about a penis makes men better leaders than women. It’s all about individuals and their competence and intelligence. Yes, I am telling you you don’t know how relationships work. Healthy ones anyway. I don’t want to lead a woman. I am not their father. I don’t want a partner who is like a child who needs direction. I want someone who is capable of sustaining themselves, thinking for themselves, and doesn’t need anyone el…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 04:53 PM
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By that definition, in any healthy relationship both people are submissive. Redpill theory just reeks of people with no social skills theorizing because they have no idea how relationships work. Feel love through respect? What does that even mean? Love comes with respect for anybody regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 04:38 PM
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Have you ever thought about how men who never needed to consult guides meet women? The fact that you needed a guide to actually meet women and be confident doesn’t mean all of the layman pseudoscience is correct. You are not all men. The reason why “be social” is not effective advice for some people is they don’t understand that that includes getting a sense of who they’re compatible with, learning when/how to approach, and making friends and meeting people through friends. People who get into r…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 02:08 PM
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Submissive women are just incompetent, unintelligent women who are childish and need a partner who is more like a father.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 02:00 PM
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