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/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 04:43 AM
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No, the knowledge already existed since ever, what the movement did was to rescue that knowledge and adapt it to the current time, RP is basically rescuing common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 05:35 AM
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If you're trying to say men led for millennia than it's the same thing, it's not like RP knowledge was invented recently, it always existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 05:22 AM
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It's a fun past time but not as good as it could be, it's basically men trying to explain the same things to women and bluepill men over and over again.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 05:00 AM
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It's hilarious how those people think they're brilliant for using natural selection and eugenic arguments "mOST mEn aRE dISposable mimimi" Ok then go live in a primitive society or go be a fleshlight for a "high" status man and see if you like it. It's even more hilarious because they're assumed "liberal" and "egalitarian" individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 09:12 PM
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And the left wants radicalized and alienated women by academia, media and social media, they're the perfect political pawns. See how social engineering works ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:59 PM
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Again, stop mixing cause and effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:55 PM
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They want chad mandated impregnation but that the average joey pays and sustain it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:49 PM
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Yes, a lot of men online tend to project their unhapiness and insecurity onto everybody and of course women online take advantage of it, the truth is that there's plenty of single men happy and the idea of being single and enjoy things is becoming the new norm, specially for young men. Being single means being free, freedom is everything for men, that's the major advantage to it. Being single always meant freedom for men to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:00 PM
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Not to the point of most men being unable to be married, it was never widespread or the norm, even in hunter gatherer societies, nonetheless in advanced civilization.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:47 PM
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Hahaha, give me a break, all hard labor and taxes are sustained by men. Yes, society will have to keep men happy as they do with women, atleast if you want a functional and stable society. Either: Men gain more freedom with less and less expactations, affording to do what we want and minding our own business. Men hold more responsabilities but equally holding authority over women and children again. Things should get equalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:43 PM
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None of your scenarios makes any sense and never happened historically, powerful men were always in charge of things and they never monopolized women because things don't work like that, if it did they would've do it, it's simple. The point is that if unselected men become the norm or keep growing then the status quo will change, now how it will change is debatable. Male energy needs to be channeled, so men could revolt and roll back things as you said or keep silently quitting and mindind their…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 04:51 PM
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These people don't understand that older gens are irrelevant to the matter, the question is, is gen z dating and marrying ? No, will gen alpha date and marry ? Everything indicates to no again.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:53 AM
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We don't use that term for conventionally attractive female traits, it's people that don't like it that use it, if a bangmaid means a caring, loving and agreeable woman then yes, every sane man wants it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 03:57 PM
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"You want a bangmaid" translation = I don't want to do anything for men but i expect them to do everything for me Also yeah, i want a bangmaid, who doesn't? Men are happy that way, women are happy that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 02:58 PM
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Good for men means being useful and doing things, good for women is being a empowered selfish narcissist, yeah buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 02:28 PM
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Censoring discourse and actions towards porn and adult content now comes from the left/progressives, they basically became the religious puritanists from the 90's and 2000, the irony is that they aren't religious, so why is that ? Because they're composed of man hating feminists and lgbt activists, they want to fuck up men's lives, simply.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 02:59 AM
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No, it's not anti sex, because many progressive people don't have any ideological base for being anti sex, they attack it out of ressentment and misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:03 PM
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That doesn’t change that women who makeout with strangers make up a small percentage of the female population. Wrong, shy and socially anxious women make up a small percentage of the female population.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:22 AM
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Hmm, but if a mid guy genuinely liked you and did everything for you, would you give him a chance ?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:26 PM
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Of course married middle aged women aren’t doing this, what matter is that young women especially from our generation is doing it, but yes, not all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:24 AM
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What's your type if you don't mind me asking ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 11:41 PM
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But that's the point, women from this sub aren't really representative of women in general, lots of women here are ND's for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 11:23 PM
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Totally inconsistent data, besides the fact that women lie and underreport and men the opposite. They do have more sex because they have more flings and relationships than young men, they have more options and attention on social media and dating apps etc.. even if they were as sexless it would be totally by choice and high standards, which actually reinforces our argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 06:01 PM
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Exactly, instead of using controlled institutions by the opposition, let those institutions die, that's the mainly thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 04:38 PM
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Either the society that allows them that won't exist anymore by natural death or it will be conquered by one that doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 04:35 PM
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The only valid point here is the first one, the rest is irrelevant, young men in fact still do try to get laid but things aren't the 80's and 99's anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 04:17 PM
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They aren't, next question.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 04:13 PM
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Bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:57 PM
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I'm pretty sure he understands that lol, the point went over your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:53 PM
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You're proving the Red Pill right.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:49 PM
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They support welfare because it primarily benefits them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:41 PM
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I wouldn't call society abstraction lol, but you're right, women are short-sighted.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 03:03 PM
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Domestic elves ? I like that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:45 PM
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It's not your problem, you don't need to do anything, there's nothing forcing you to care or do anything. So, what's your point ? There's no reason to complain
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:36 PM
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And why should you get special treatment and benefits? You should ask this question to women, either we live in a equal individualistic society or not, there shouldn't be any compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:25 PM
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Yup, that's the final development.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:59 PM
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No, i'm totally skeptical and dropped out entirely, i may ask a woman here and there if i want it at the moment but very rarely and without any attachment or active effort. And if you are, why are you still here? Does it help or hurt? Or do you consider this just a hobby? Just for intellectual stimulation, it's a interesting and fun topic for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 05:53 PM
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I didn't know fic was allowed here
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:30 PM
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I said women are attracted to violence in varying degrees, that i think is inherent, it happens that many violent men are criminals or psychopaths but not all, women want strenght primarily. What happens is because we live in a moralizing egalitarian society, that truth is concealed and whitewashed for ideological/moral reasons, admitting that women likes strenght that much shatters the consensual fantasy worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:24 PM
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Women aren’t excluded from power, they can and do share power with men. You don't live in a patriarchy. PERIOD.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 04:18 PM
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Chad is a useful archetype to explain or summarize a point/argument, so no, it shouldn't be banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 04:12 PM
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But that one is plainly stupid, they themselves don't believe men aren't hetero, they're just reacting childshly to the men's one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:28 PM
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Bourgeoisie*, i wrote it in a hurry sorry lol. What i mean is that people goes to church for convenience and social activities or to feel good, there isn't any high call or purpose anymore for the most part, besides, the values inside the church are exactly the same values outside of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 05:04 AM
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You can't be serious
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:52 AM
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You act like a lot of marriages aren't for convenience sake especially at the women side and people are deeply in love, what world do you live in ? 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:32 AM
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So are they all naturally sexually attracted to criminals or not? It's the wrong question, all women are attracted to violence in varying degrees, that doesn't mean all women would bang or marry psychopats, i mean, some do but not all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:21 AM
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There's a video called "Zones" from the youtuber hoemath that explains it brilliantly, women basically have a two score system, but most women will be unconscious or dishonest about the sexual attractive score.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:13 AM
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Neither definition is applicable to our modern society btw lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:05 AM
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If you took a woman from 1 century ago she would be more competent and tough than maybe half of current men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 11:09 PM
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It doesn't matter the precise number of women or men in power, what matters are the values and the principles that rule society, democracy is ruled by feminine and matriarchal values (egalitarianism, inclusivity, welfare and social values, therapeutical discourse etc) Because men occupy most positions of authority, it’s a patriarchy. That’s what patriarchy means. No, patriarchy is rule of the father, you don't know what it is and what it entails.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 11:03 PM
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Because christianity is not a patriarchal theocentric religion anymore, it became a bourgeoisie conformist religion, very feminized, it became gynocentric, atleast in the west, liberal theology and secularism dominated it, so it's a matter of time for it to die. I'm a spiritual person but not currently following any organized religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 10:39 PM
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You don't live in a patriarchy anymore, you live in democracy and liberalism, they are not patriarchal, quite the opposite, they're feminine, matriarchal and anti hierarchical, egalitarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 10:30 PM
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Traditional women weren't incompetent, quite the opposite, the problem is that for most of you traditional or patriarchalism means the american 50's, that has nothing to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 10:26 PM
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Rare honest and smart comment here in this sub coming from a woman, if most of them were like that..
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 09:08 PM
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You are probably asexual, but anyway, what he refers to sexuality isn't only the act per se but everything that involves sexuality, women's world revolves around relationships, "situationships", romantic drama, gossip etc. There's no problem with that though, it is just women's nature, they're more sexual and social, that's why we say that women are interested in people and men interested in things.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:33 PM
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I feel they won't be fond of Weininger that much. Here's another great quote from him that i remembered: “In the case of the male the onset of puberty is a crisis; he feels that something new and strange has come into his being, that something has been added to his powers and feelings independently of his will. The physiological stimulus to sexual activity appears to come from outside his being, to be independent of his will, and many men remember the disturbing event throughout their after live…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:26 PM
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Because women are more sexual than men, sexuality is everything for women. Otto Weininger explain that brilliantly, here his quote: “Woman is only sexual, man is partly sexual, and this difference reveals itself in various ways. The parts of the male body by stimulation of which sexuality is excited are limited in area, and are strongly localised, whilst in the case of the woman, they are diffused over her whole body, so that stimulation may take place almost from any part. The female is always …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:37 PM
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They aren't moral though, all the bluepillers hippies on this sub are deeply niihilistic and misanthropic, they hide it behind a "moral" facade.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:34 PM
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It's not about being delusional about the past, it's that you project your family traumas on it, there's plenty of people that have grandparents still happily married or that were married lifelong, happy and realized. Many people envy them and get inspired, if you think everyone in your grandparents epoch was in abusive unhappy relationships with rapists husbands than you're delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:12 PM
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But is he caring towards you ? If not than it's a reason for your mistrust but if he's caring to you than maybe you have a bias against your dad political side or worldview. Because for many women especially on the left side people that don't share their worldview are automatically evil, they can't grasp why people think different from them beyond them being selfish and evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:40 PM
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Bullshit, as dudes already said here, it's women that keep the hierarchy, you want your cake and eat it too. It's simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 04:22 PM
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No, what i'm saying is being agreeable ≠ being good, goodness has much more depth than you think as i said. Do you have a father or brother ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 04:14 PM
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All talk about being much better alone is cope in both sexes. This don't mean that it's impossible to have a happy single life but it's not that easy or ideal, humans are social animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 04:02 PM
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Building communities of what ? lol Communities comes from family life which is now dying at a fast pace, society will inevitable become more depressed and isolating. Many of us knows what the future looks like and we preparing for that, most women seems to not know.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 03:26 PM
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Being good does not mean being a hippie, you don't understand what goodness is especially male goodness so it's all around you but you ignore. Women's goodness manifests in nurturing, caring, simpathy, emotional comfort and sensibility and Men's goodness in justice, heroism, altruism, loyalty, truthfulness, things that men excel.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 02:55 PM
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Men can only control their sexuality to a certain extent, we can't castrate ourselves. In a sexual free society that power is mostly at women's hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 10:35 PM
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Exactly, many of us know that low quality relationships are mostly what you get today due to women's promiscuity so there's no point in putting that much effort into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:26 PM
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But you have already said that all possible choices are narcissistic and entitled No, if you're at the top you choose a man at the top, if you're average you choose a man that's average but without thinking you deserve better and being ressentful making shit relationships or not pairing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:17 PM
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That is true, we're pickier about LTR not casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:28 PM
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Nonsensical repetitive argument, demanding virgins is a standard that all men should hold again.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:27 PM
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Keep proving the manosphere is right lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:24 PM
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The correct is to self reflect and self avaliate properly, be down to earth and not narcissistic and entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:09 PM
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Because the real point of RP’s eternally changing definition of “hypergamy” is to be a circular definition that satisfies their need to feel superior to women. It is unfalsifiable: there is literally no behavior a woman could ever have that would disprove your belief that she’s automatically inferior to any man she dates. Wrong, we say that women settle all the time, the point isn't that women always get to date up, the point is that they always WANT to date up, if they could get the 6'3 instead…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:33 PM
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Because it can't be reduced to that, it's a matter of our society promoting that kind of arrangement as good when everythings points to it being harmful, essentially putting women's feelings over hard truths, it's also a matter of bad mating selection from women which they don't take accountability nor our society has the courage to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 12:12 AM
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I already value, our socieity doesn't, they tell that single moms are heroes and there's no problem with it when there's a huge amount of evidence and data showing that the lack of fathers harms boys and girls in every way possible, and society as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 11:14 PM
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What you don't understand is that nobody should be above criticism, neither men or women, but society placed women on a pedestal and this only created and validated toxic behavior in dating and other areas, that's what i call gynocentrism. RP doesn't see women as inherently evil or fundamentally wrong because we understand nature, yes there is bad patterns and inclinations in women's nature as there is in men and we recognize that, the problem is when women started being seem as these incapable …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 10:48 PM
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For sure, it's a game that they themselves create, they hold the power in a free sexual market, if you tell them that they deny and deflect and if you step aside from the game which me and many men are doing they complain too. Women in this sub could be atleast 10% more honest, the discussions would be more constructive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:53 PM
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No, it's an expectation that women hold onto men, starting with men having to initiate things to women commonly not being reciprocal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:38 PM
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Nonsense, if you attack every man everywhere and say literally everything about them is inherently shit, you are dissing masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:02 PM
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None of that is thrashing femininity, you want to categorize any critique of women's behavior as thrashing women per se as in an ontological level. Women not being untouchable doesn't mean there's a fundamental problem with them. And like I said: your response to that was to attack women. The people on the internet vilifying men were doing the exact same thing you decided to do- they took all the sneering hateful bile spewed about women that has been said for millenia and attacked men in return.…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:29 AM
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Red pillers trash femininity every chance they can. Give me examples. And the “best defense” you could come up with was to attack your enemies: women I grew up seeing men being attacked and villified on the internet and mainstream narrative, when nobody knew what the fuck pills were. You don’t need to pretend like actually being respected is some kind of scam. Red pillers demonstrate themselves how much they fucking despise women providing traditional feminine labor. You call women who do tradit…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 09:26 PM
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Men are heroic and good creatures if not the whole thing would collapse, it's not our fault that women likes and rewards the bad selfish ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 09:21 PM
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Hypergamy, brainwashing, hedonism, social media, several factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 02:39 PM
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There's no future without families and communities, nothing to fight and live for without that. The problem is that you guys are deeply niihilistic but too naive to perceive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 02:32 PM
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Exactly, it's a paradox that they can't and won't solve. Good Riddance.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 06:50 PM
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How can you strike a deal with women without seeking a degree of approval and permission ? Other than that is brute force.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 06:27 PM
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I don't personally know you or your community so i can't judge but you're in the minitory, most women don't want to give up the status quo and the ones like you don't speak up to them because women are wonderful and can't be wrong. Even then i can't see men holding the most stressful and demanding roles in society without the comfort of a home nor do i can see women holding these jobs for men to stay at home, progressivism can't solve any of that, it's a dead end anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 06:25 PM
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Parity achieved by artificial means giving unfair and arbitrary advantages to women and creating hostiles environments to men, let's see how that turns out for you, and that's only for blue collar work of course, why they don't do that with the more life risking and demanding jobs ? And on the flip, there's all that unpaid work that supports people who do paid work. It's becoming more acceptable for men to become caregivers, which is important work that is gruesomely underpaid. Taking time away …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:12 PM
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I wonder why
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 03:58 PM
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Why do you give infinite praise to men and masculinity for everything good in society and civilization, yet only dump blame and hate and condescending disdain on women and femininity? We don't we seek feminity, men highlight their contribution as a reaction to the misandry and gynocentrism rampant in today's society, it's a defense of masculinity rather than an attack on feminity. then why should women provide this worthless, unwanted, and unappreciated pair bonding, respect, and family formatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 03:51 PM
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There's no whining, only cause and effect, if society does X it gets Y.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 03:25 PM
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Civil construction, logistics, heavy industry, public security and military, energy, agriculture, STEM, innovation and risk taking, all dominated and dependent on men. If you want real parity you should strive in convicing women to contribute as much or else not take from society what they fail to contribute, you should strive in convicing women to stop pursuing their hypergamous nature. Modern women don't want parity, they want to handpick what they contribute and what they take. Of course men …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 03:24 PM
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It's not a useless metric to human existence itself and to the context of my post, children gives men purpose. But even without children, all the problems of the dating market and modern pair bonding weren't solved by the most egalitarian countries, they actually worsened, the most gender egalitarian and sexually free a society is the most men and women become incompatible, that's the harsh reality. Men lose their traditional incentives because the state becomes the new provider to women, at the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 02:53 PM
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Society will give men what they want to get the things they want or else they won't, same logic, it's a battle of interests. It's not solely about getting relationships as people here wants to deflect to because they can't argue anything, let's take women out of the equation, men still demands to be respected again, be it in family courts, media, academy, job application, laws, culture, in the dating market and as fathers and husbands. The gynocentric clownery should stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:49 PM
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I said that feminism was convenient to capitalism, not that it created it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:20 AM
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Bare minimum according to whom ? lol, and it's not about being rewarded anyway, it's about not being scammed in supporting and keeping a system that outrighly punish and defrauds you but it can't survive without you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:12 AM
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The most laughable thing about these neo marxists is that they love to say "Muh capitalists are dividing us and distracting us" when these idiots are the ones dividing everyone into identities and oppresion ranks, they do the exactly opposite of what they say, make it make sense. Gender and culture wars are a result of leftist critical theory, intersecionality, post structuralism etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:05 AM
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What’s with men thinking they’re entitled to free shit? There's nothing free, that's the point, it's our current society that seems to think men's energy and sacrifice are free. Wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:51 PM
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It's up to men to decide our options, it's a game of interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:42 PM
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You should apply this same dumb logic to your and your colleagues worldview, since you see an oppresive structure at everything. You gonna spend it being mad? The one life you have??? Because i raised a debate ? Then everyone here's is mad for life, stop projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:39 PM
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What you think is wrong does not match up with real life statistics. It's not that it doesn't match, it has nothing to do with it. Power is concentrated in wealthy older gens, these people married at another context and the fact that they're wealthy helps them, the problem is your average man especially from younger gens not being able to launch due to a flawed rigged system, without the average joe working hard at the base society can't function, since the spell was broken, society is at risk, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:29 PM
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Yes, for the first time in history, my point was to deny the false feminist rhetoric of women and their contributation to civilization being devalued throughout history and that this was the reason for them leaving it, feminism sees things that way exactly because they share the same conception of those capitalists, deep down feminism always despised and ressented domestic labor, capitalism used this to it's own favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:06 PM
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Women silently benefit from every institution that they say it's oppresive, they only care when it affects them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:39 PM
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Because they saw things from a purely materialistic standpoint where everything is measured by profit and they actually convinced women of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:33 PM
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Please stfu about these sex robots my goodness Why ? It could be a tangible reality in the future regardless of what you and me feel about it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 08:16 PM
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There aren't threats, i'm discussing cause and effect, the problem is that most of you are allergic to men having standards, needs, expectations and incentives, everytime men talks transanctionally you devolve to shaming, not gonna work, as you said we'll see in the future, so i'm matching the energy. Nobody is forcing women to do anything, what repulses me is the hypocrisy, double standards and falsehood of this system, biting the hand that feeds you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 08:09 PM
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History isn't linear or universal as you think, i know why you think that way though, but you're wrong anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:57 PM
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GDP is up so everything is fine ? Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:24 PM
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I'm sorry that you can't grasp that men wants to live for things beyond money and consumerism, we actually take more pleasure in giving then taking.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:22 PM
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But he’s no one is forcing men to do it. Except for the desire and need of maintaining and progressing Yeah but my point is that with the dating market as it is society is at risk if we don't find a solution or a replacement for women's role.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:21 PM
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😂
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:17 PM
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My incentive to be a productive member of society was so I could afford to sustain myself and not be a liability to others around me. Your incentives aren't men's incentives, and you don't sustain yourself, nobody does, everyone survives in group. You're entitled because you think everything you have is earned solely by yourself and those things are granted.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:11 PM
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The only self defeating mindset is the status quo that society promotes, you're shooting yourself in the foot and think it's smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:05 PM
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They are because people want to keep their easy convenient consumerist lifestyle, what they say does not matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:52 PM
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All the essential areas that keeps the state and modern infraestrutucre running is kept by men, innovation is just one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:51 PM
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I wish progressive people shared this sentiment but they don't want all their liberal utopia gone, they can't face it, they want men silent and being workhorses to maintain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:45 PM
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The reward for going to work and contributing to society is your paycheck and negotiated benefits such as paid days off, health insurance and a pension/401k. Women and kids are not a reward for going to work. Wrong. Also respect is earned based on your attitude and actions. Respect is when someone goes above and beyond not when they do the bare minimum and being a good human being is the bare minimum Who decides what is what's not the bare minimum ? You ? Women don't do the bare minimum and are …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:41 PM
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Care jobs wouldn't be that needed if we still had extended families.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:29 PM
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No one has said ambition, risk taking, innovation, hard work, etc. are toxic parts of masculinity. These are good traits that are associated with masculinity, but are still valued in women, and are often touted as part of having healthy masculinity. Of course not, society needs it to survive lol. The point is that it comes from what they deem as "toxic" which means being competitive, stoic, individualist, macho etc No one has removed the rewards for men for being family men. The world still favo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:25 PM
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And btw, maintaining a highly complex, highly productive and highly comfortable society is more at women's interests than it is for men, we can live much more simpler lifes compared to women, you love your convenient, safe and consumerist lifestyle more than anything. I believe we will continue to evolve and adapt and that the men panicking are doing so because they're an evolutionary dead end becoming aware that their refusal to adapt will be the end of them. You'll get a reality check lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:33 PM
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Perhaps, but societys idea of how women and men are is far too exaggerated from how they really are. What do you mean by that ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:20 PM
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You can believe what you want, it does not change objective reality. Without children you don't have a society, you don't have the manpower to keep all the material comfort that you take as granted. Women love to work with the false assumption that children is solely on men's interests and that we should give them whataever they want to have it, wrong, wake up from your fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:16 PM
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So are you suggesting that I'm married to the government, the government are my friends, and the government gives me purpose? Yes. In what context? Do you have an example? Courts, media, churches, culture/education etc etc What men should I be respecting by their efforts? What efforts? Each one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:02 PM
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The most egalitarian countries should be booming with children, but they aren't. End of story.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:57 PM
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Women stopped having children at their own detriment, having children is mutually beneficial and to everybody interests, the fact that they aren't complaining about it does not change anything, it just shows they are short sighted and take things as granted.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:55 PM
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Thank you for the recommendation but i'm not interested in post structuralist and neo marxist garbage. There aren't any scam in that sense, only natural hierarchies and natural dynamics playing out, women's social reproduction work was never devalued historically or not paid, that's what feminism rethoric teaches women due to not see how gender dynamics properly worked out in history, it was feminism and capitalism that convinced women that doing it was beneath them, that was the real scam. Your…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:39 PM
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Read the text under the post title.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:47 PM
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If by providing you mean materially and structurally then no, if by providing you mean emotianally and biologically then again, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:44 PM
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Either way, the current model of relying on an exhausted consumerist lie to motivate men is finished. Spot on, men are driven by purpose and not consumerism as an end in itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:41 PM
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Society is collectively expecting men to do it since it's very existence depends on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:32 PM
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Firstly society has required labour of a huge number of people in different roles, not just men. Child care and domestic work was just as needed as scientists and engineers to make the modern world. Yeah and why did they stop doing it ? That means that the sole responsibility to maintain society fell on men. I agree this doesn't feel sustainable but my solutions lie more towards more ownership and local community rather than any specifically gendered solutions. Both things are good but what acti…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:28 PM
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Men are still able to have families, social respect, a clear purpose. Wrong, the role of men was replaced by the goverment, we're constantly disrepected in all spheres, there's anti male bias in media, education, job market, even religion. Father and husband roles aren't respected anymore, respected is earned and men aren't duely respected by their efforts anymore, it's fair to not help sustain a system that doesn't respect you and your role.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:11 PM
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Women don't need to provide emotional and biological comfort to men as long as men don't need to provide material and existential comfort to women, the problem is we're still expected to do it even when our needs and expectations aren't being met. You either: Balance things again. Let progressivism reach it's final consequences and nobody will be tied or expected to do anything based on gender role.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:05 PM
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Society can't do this because reality does not sustain it, unless biological differences is surpassed someway.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:55 PM
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The new situation is not fully there exactly because what i said, progressive society didn't reached it's ultimate consequences and implications, it's easy to believe in abstracted equality and progressist concepts meanwhile relying on traditional masculity to uphold it, but not sustainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:52 PM
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I'm doing a lot less than i could exactly because it's an unfair and outright evil system, that's the point. Your question adds to my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:42 PM
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Yes but it's a tradeoff, not a unilateral mandatory role.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:36 PM
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It's not about getting woman at demand, it's about society hypocrisy fully reliying and depending on men meanwhile undermining and sabotaging the very foundations that make it possible, it's a selfmade paradox, a very schizofrenic one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:32 PM
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They aren't, who said they are ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:26 PM
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In fact, if average men were guaranteed bang maids, what incentive would there be to risk-take and drive progress? In the case of the hypothetical AI robot solution, yes, it could exarcebate the problem or atleast not fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:25 PM
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Stay salty lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:01 AM
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Ok little female
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:55 AM
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Men have much more deeper friendships though, there's no comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:34 AM
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Blackpilled guys always uses biology and nature to justify their weakness, "look men are absolutely disposable women are the masters of the universe according to biology there's nothing you can do, its over brutal" Things are much more complex and nuanced
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 12:43 AM
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RP doesn't say to harass women, most men aren't RP and a lot of non RP share the same views and worries about being mistreated or humiliated by women. Again, the real issue in the real world is that men are giving up on aproacching, either cold or warm, that's the trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:27 PM
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No it's because people aren't marrying anymore, marriage is a traditional institution not compatible with progressive liberal societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:24 PM
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There aren't men with this view, men complain about women especially gen z and millenials anti social and toxic behaviors after MeToo and fourth wave feminism, so it's more like "If i try to shoot my shot because modern society didn't provided or guided me to any healthy way to start a romantic relationship and fullfil my emotional and sexual needs, please reject me humanly and politely instead of humiliating or destroying me" type of complaint. Your issue isn't really a issue outside of echocha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:15 PM
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Nope, progressive bluepill thinking is incompatible with long term relationships, as you can notice declining marriages rates and relationship rotation are the new norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 06:55 PM
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Our modern society still hasn't figured out the rules for intersexual dynamics after we got rid of the traditional infrastructure. Instead they left solely on men to figure it out how to fix it, this sub and all dating debates goes down to men trying to fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 06:06 PM
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There's a lot of women that want to be approached at normal conditions and having the option to reject or accept, many women in this sub if not most are ND's or chronically online feminists, they don't represent the average woman. I don't like to approach personally, i think this age is over and it would be better for us men to go along, but i also don't condemn any man that do, they have the freedom to do it no matter what feminists freaks think.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:54 PM
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Tough environments do not necessitate treating your wife like property? In places where women’s (everyone’s) labor is much more critical to survival… you think that’s when men most want to beat them and treat them like cattle? I don’t see why that would make any logical sense. In harsh environments inequality in nature becomes clear and unanvoidable whereas in modern society this inequality is hidden behind social safety nets and a moral framework to it, treating women like "cattle" is subjectiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 04:50 PM
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Just do yoga and dance courses bro
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 01:44 PM
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Women are bad even being approached where they don't need to do anything, let alone doing the approach lol most women are potatoes that don't put any effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 01:40 PM
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Brutal lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 01:28 PM
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Men could fill all these roles and they would start families, research has showed that when men get more money they tend to have children, when women get money they tend to not have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:11 PM
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But why is it that treating women like human beings instead of livestock is a luxury reserved only for the extremely affluent? It does not logically follow that lack of money means women should be treated like shit. It does logically follow, it doesn't morally follow, your moral in specific. Hard environments makes people tough and strong, comfortable ones makes people weak and soft, when you have to survive you can't afford to deny reality, what makes equality work is all the social and economi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 01:44 AM
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It's a stupid phrase that doesn't mean anything and can mean anything at the same time, only imbeciles and dishonest people say that shit and shouldn't be take seriously by anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 07:49 PM
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Nothing dries women's panties more than kindness
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:34 PM
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It's common sense that a person should be somewhat attractive to you to form a relationship, it happens that most men find most women somewhat attractive. I would prefer a mid kind and caring woman to any hotter one without a second thought but santa claus do not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:32 PM
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Saying western men gave women freedom for merely economic reasons is ignoring all the historical and moral evolution that culminated with that, people weren't always free and "equal", it was an ongoing process of desconstructing hierarchies that started millenia ago, at the first men weren't all equal too, with time we became more "docile", more soft, it was a leap from the idea of Imago Dei, humans as God's image including women, all equal before God etc; christianity had a huge role on that de…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:16 PM
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Anyways, so my question is: if you think that women’s rights are only a generous indulgent gift from men… why did western men grant them to western women? It isn't a simply thing that men woke up and decided to give women equal rights, it was a evolved moral and ideological decision particular to that civilization. why did western men grant them to western women? And why don’t men of so many other countries grant those same rights to their women? Why, for example, do the men of Afghanistan treat…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:10 PM
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Most men want a kind woman, do you know how hard it is to find one ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:34 PM
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RP is about understanding reality and psychology not bending to social constructed norms, nor it suggest any absolute single solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:20 PM
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That's for short sight sexual attraction, patriarchy is good for women and children long term but most of them won't grasp this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:09 PM
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I would be glad because women being sexually free is socially dysgenic for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:55 PM
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You don't know what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:53 PM
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Not only they'll give different answers but they'll change it as they see fit, it's all about social points and virtue signaling and zero truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:51 PM
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Women are happier being submissive, even with average men, they just aren't conscious of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:36 PM
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90% of bluepillers/purplepillers in this sub doesn't know their arguments implications, they want to moralize everything lol. "LoVe Is wHen yoU don't CaRe or ExPect anytHing oF a person". Nope, you're just a idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:40 AM
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No, we like to possess women, any man that don't think or wish to possess women is mentally ill or emasculated, but that does not mean we don't love them, quite the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:24 AM
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Bullshit, you're idealizing things, if being possessive means not truly loving than most people never loved, in real life these things are deeply intertwined.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:19 AM
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Possessivenes doesn't contradict love, quite the opposite. We not caring about women's careers doesn't mean we don't care for anything else, personality is much more important to men than it is for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:08 AM
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Take care to not avoid too much, you can't survive
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:54 AM
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We already doing it, the net loss wasn't that obvious decades ago but now it so obvious that withdrawl is inevitable
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:51 AM
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You're autistic and avoid men in real life yet you know that they're desperate, that's hilarious. You're projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:27 AM
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It didn't, the schism was made by 60 years of poisonous feminism in every aspect of society including superficial things like videogames and male centered media. Again, don't mix cause with effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 02:23 AM
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Women hate to be reminded or acknowledge that they reward bad men and bad behavior and that good men don't get women or 😺, it makes them feel terrible about themselves, and worse, it affects their social image. So they try to hide or deny it as much as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 02:20 AM
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10 to 20 years ago there was still a lot of pressure, now it's becoming normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 12:08 PM
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Wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 11:34 AM
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Because they're stupid unfortunately, they're very ideological and dogmatic and trying to explain basic reality to them is like speaking to a donkey.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 02:42 AM
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It's modern dating and modern society that look to relationships as a market and commodities like with any other thing, RP rightfully sees that and react to it. You guys always confuse cause with effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 02:32 AM
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I don't think it's craziness to question women's heterossexuality, i do think women are heterossexual but not in the same degree or level of men. Also, decades of birthpill are effecting women's sexuality negatively.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 02:26 AM
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Women not being overweight is an average standard despite they not meeting it, it's just a basic matter of self care, now men being over 6'0 isn't an average standard in any perspective. Your arguments sums down to "women can be unrealistic and men can't and that's it", wrong, reality check is already here and it'll hit harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 04:21 PM
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You're autistic enough to say some of the quiet part out loud, good. Balding is common but not the majority, many average face/height men with hair from my gen are struggling also, heck, even some above average, and that's because a lot of men even date below. The problem is all of you receive a lot of free and undeserved attention, all of you need a reality check ASAP.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:51 PM
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Seems you agree with me that women have unequal and unrealistic standards, it happens most men aren't balding 5'6, if average women can't find average men attractive then it's their problem. Also, you guys say women don't care about looks one time and that they find certain men repulsive at another, maybe try to be coherent.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:29 PM
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Men and women don't have the same options, talking as they have is dishonesty which is typical of bluepillers, you don't want women to lower their unrealistic standards because it's too degrading and they're all flawless 10's, but men should give up any standard and that's fair to you right, yes, men are more realistic and down to earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:56 AM
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Yeah and drinking alcohol and smoking is bad for your health
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 07:27 PM
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It was capitalism and capitalists that drove women out of home into the job market, at the expense of children's rearing and education, just for more profit and less costs. It's capitalism that pushes women to not form family or doing it later because it keeps them buying and consuming more. Capitalists wants people atomized and pursuing indivdualistic consummerist lifes and women are the main drives of that. They don't teach you that in university, i wonder why.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 07:22 PM
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That would make sense if it was only men at the bottom, but clearly even average men with average faces and heights are reporting and complaining about women at their level or even lower having high standards, hoeflation is a thing and it's very real, unless it's solved things will get worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 06:56 PM
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No. Men want to date women on their level and not lowering their standards or not having any like dating very fat women or single moms, women want to date men above their level, totally different. Men are working with scarcity and women with their own self inflicted demise due to entitlement, not rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 06:09 PM
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They definetely want to lock them, women want strong first and foremost if they're bad and strong it's still better than nice and weak, that's why they try to lock them but can't, they don't run. What happens consistently: Women keep having flings and romances with toxic men in a row They keep rewarding bad men with sex even knowing they're manipulative and narcissistic because it's fun. They side with their toxic bfs against everyone. They keep forgiving and coming back to their toxic bfs. All …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 06:02 PM
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Men aren't falling behind, the amount of men that sprout this argument is sick, society is in crisis and men are adapting, do you think men are losing anything not going to college and dating ? No. This idea is partly from an unsconcious ressentment and revenge fantasy from progressive people and feminists, it's like "See? Women are opressed in the past and now the roles reversed" It's wet revenge fantasy with a mix of self righteousness, society is in crisis and men perceive and adapt to it, wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 03:37 PM
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What's weird to think ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 03:02 PM
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Because women can't fanthom justice, the more feminine society become the more soft and lenient on crime it becomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:49 AM
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Yeah, 99% men with a little of self respect wouldn't want it, assexuals from reddit don't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:29 AM
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No, it's not naivety, the truth is that a good degree of evilness and brutality make panties wet, goodness and niceness dries it. If women liked goodness Jesus Christ would've had a woman, things are like that since the dawn of times.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:25 AM
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They complain after being fucked and dumped by them, it's anger and ressentment from not being able to lock them. Unfortunately they carry on this ressentment and blame all men, especially the future loser that settle for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:19 AM
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They want to be in relationships with bad boys, they just can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:14 AM
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Pure social dysgeny.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:08 AM
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The only thing they can sense is weakness and power, if you're weak and useful than they will settle and use you, that's it, they're very brutal and pragmatical.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:03 AM
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What's your point here ? "See? men only care about sex and not my imaginary and contradictory version of love, only women are pure beings that care about love and never about sex!" You owned the chuds.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 03:34 AM
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Don't trust women with butterflies tattos.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 09:24 PM
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What a stupid post that didn't adressed any of OP's arguments
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:27 AM
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All of the current dating and social trends that the RP and the manosphere talks about will only increase and accelerate, so those things being more mainstream is inevitably, many men now comes to the same conclusions of the RP without even knowing about it or not engaging with the online manosphere, all because the modern dating problems we talk about are becoming universally experienced by men. The internet does increases the dimension of things but don't fool yourself, all of it is really hap…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 08:44 PM
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You just proved my argument, congrats.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 08:00 PM
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It helps because it makes you more dettached, confident and relaxed, things women like, but my point is that you should love yourself regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:12 PM
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Won't matter if you center everything about it working with women or not, as if everything in the universe only has any value if conditioned by what women want, which is absurd. Many things are worth by itself, loving yourself is a very useful and important principle that a person should learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:31 PM
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Guys aren't only resentful because of not getting sex and women, a lot of the debate around this topic is reduced to getting laid, we are resentful because despite wanting to be good, virile and honest we know clown society will take advantage of it, abuse it and be ungrateful to it, so we're forced to deny our instincts, of being a provider, a protector, of having purpose, men care more about giving than taking. I honestly share the same ressentment, i think society destroyed my sincere desire …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:20 PM
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You should love yourself for yourself, regardless if that work with women or not lol, the fact that you condition loving yourself with getting women is already a contradiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:56 PM
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What you're.talking about ? A president does not automatically change the cultural and social status quo from society, you live in a progressive liberal and post feminist society for atleast 60 years now. RP is a reaction to that, yes, not rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:45 PM
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An incel president LMFAO
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 02:58 AM
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Exactly, both the system and women are starting to worry that they won't have enough pack mules to keep things going, it's really just that. They are worried about two things primarily: Who's going to pay the taxes, who's going to pay government spending and who's going to maintain the welfare system. Less taxes and less production for them. Women are worried that they'll lose their steady supply of betabuxxers, that means their dual mating strategy will be compromised, besides all the power and…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:53 AM
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RP is anti system, yes, the system is progressive, liberal, feministic and gynocentric for a very long time now, maybe you should catch up with the times.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:34 AM
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Where's the question though ? Women have power and leverage on us through sex, once we manage that way or another (that's the hard part) then they lost most power and it becomes optional dealing with them or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 05:13 PM
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You wrong here though, there isn't any absolute receipt about improving your personality and improving your personality isn't tied with attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 04:56 PM
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Yes, that's one of the majors RP's, if a woman truly likes a man she will do anything for him, zero effort. Since people here believe in the pure love theory then they should agree that men going only for women that likes them is a good thing, that makes it less or non transactional and atleast reciprocal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 04:42 PM
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You didn't answer the question and no bluepill can answer it either
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 02:33 PM
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Things don't work like that If women are selecting men based on love how relationships are more instable and breakups are higher than before ? If that was true we shoud be in pure love utopia by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:04 AM
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There's no obligatory love, it's a love that naturally borns with time from servicing and caring for each other. Compare a couple that are in "love" with traditional folks that are married for a long time, it's two different kinds of love.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 08:55 PM
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There aren't any particular figure and influencers that i follow closely, i'm subscribed to some RP and men's channels but it's something i watch occasionally. 2.Accurate in which sense ? By the media and mainstream narrative obviously no. Mostly political and dating, sometimes fitness and rarely money. Youtube, Telegram, X It does not answer anything for me because i found my answers by myself through reading and observing the world, it's more about having spaces where you can discuss and share…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 02:54 PM
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You're spot on, society created a paradox when it decided to empower women and disenfranchize men, because women simply want successful men that are higher than them, what this did was to make men less attractive to women because it shocks directly with their hypergamy, they keep pushing for it unknowingly that it make them unhappier, it's a snake eating her own tail. Dating can't be solved until this paradox is solved, toddlers brains can't seem to grasp it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 04:33 AM
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What people generally calls love in the sense of romance is a subjective thing by it's own nature, it's actually instincts and passion in action, we just call it love to mask the raw desire behind it. I don't believe in romantic love, but i do believe in a genuine love that develops and grows with time, that was actually the norm in the past, people married based on affinity and duty and with time love emerged, we basically inverted the whole thing, we say that relationships can't work without "…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 02:39 AM
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The bottom rebuilding monogamy won't happen, that's the premisse of the post, what will replace it. I do believe a new system could form but of course nothing is guaranteed, the future is uncertain, but it's either a new one or collapse or both actually, regardless, fragmentation is a temporary state.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 08:11 PM
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Women will always need men, it's a biological reality, women are bound to men, they are only apparently indepedent, it's artificial and not an objective independence. That's a RP that many women don't understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 05:52 PM
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When women uses that term it means "I don't want to do anything for men and it's wrong of men to want things from us", but they're sure do want things from men, it's just misandry and selfishness. I do want a bangmaid, who doesn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 03:15 PM
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Yes, the amount of dopamine and distractions we have make us lethargic and domesticated, but young men are checking out from everything, so it's a silent and passive revolt.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 03:04 PM
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Let's agree to disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 02:59 PM
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From watching the incentives. When the old pressures around marriage weaken, people do not magically move into one clean replacement system. Yes, but i didn't frame it in the way you mentioned. I agree transactional dating and AI will grow, but I do not think they fully replace monogamy across the board. The elite will still have dating problems, sure, but they also have more money, better networks, more family support, more options, and more margin for error. That matters. So the future probabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 02:56 PM
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Speak king They want society demanding accountability from men who don't give a fuck and they know these men don't give a fuck and yet they breed with them, give me a break.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 05:56 AM
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If you think gen z and gen alpha are getting married you're deluded.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 05:36 AM
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The framing is already off because it treats monogamy declining like it is some mysterious shift in human nature I don't know where you get that So the future probably is not one replacement for monogamy. It is a split. Stable monogamy for people who can actually sustain it, and a more chaotic, short-term, semi-transactional dating pool for everyone else. Blue pill thinking helps create that mess because it keeps telling people relationships run on fairness, intentions, and “just be yourself,” w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 05:34 AM
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Blackpill is true but not an absolute truth like blackpillers likes to think, they take one aspect of reality and make it autistically absolute.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 04:38 AM
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I don't believe anything unstable can sustain itself, serial monogamy will exhaust itself. There's also the problem that it can't provide sustainable birthrates and proper family structure.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 11:39 PM
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Yes, religious groups outbreeding secular people is a current phenomenon but i'm not sure about their survival long-term, you can take the Amish as an example, very high birth rates but they're too isolationist and pacifist to do anything with it. I also meant an immediately replacement system for monogamy, or rather, the ones we're seem to be heading in the near future, but none of them are anti-natalist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 10:53 PM
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Monogamy is already enforced. It has always been enforced. It's a question of how strongly and in what ways. I could definitely see more formal and legal enforcement like this at some point. But ultimately social enforcement always pulled more weight than legal, and we don't have very strong societies to enforce much of anything anymore. It isn't anymore, hence the decay. Monogamy can only work through enforcement exactly because it's a taming of instincts. The open question is whether enforced …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 10:34 PM
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It's basically moving to a costly money/effort transaction to a purely money cheaper transaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 10:11 PM
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Yeah, it's only growing up, companionship and sex are in high demand and women are willing to supply it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 09:17 PM
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It’s very hard to get the companionship offered by a relationship anywhere else, especially as platonic relationships decline in later adulthood, so transactional relationships don’t make sense as a future model. Many lonely men and even married men find solace and companionship with escorts, buying companionship isn't half bad as you think, especially because many women are willing to offer it for money, so i dunno about that. Sex robots really just aren’t a serious solution, sorry. What? no se…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 09:13 PM
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Yes, it benefits both genders because the apparent alternative is society collapsing. It benefits because when men get empowered everyone is happier, when women get empowered everyone is unhappy. But the issue is that we value sex, desire, the erotic much more highly now. Women argue, basically, that based on the higher value of erotic currency, the terms of this tradeoff are totally unfair to women. I can see the logic here, but I’m not fully wrapping my head around it. Can you expand on it a b…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 08:47 PM
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That marriage is dying is a fact, not an opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 08:40 PM
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People and society always wishes for order, that's why i don't believe this fluidity will keep up, besides the fact that a particular system is needed to produce families and children.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 08:37 PM
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Long term stability is already dead in traditional marriage.. just look at the divorce rates. That's serial monogamy not traditional monogamy, traditional monogamy seems to be alive only in specific religious communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 08:29 PM
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I'm not totally sure about your take on this, it seems you support and believe in unrestricted natural selection taking unmarried and unpartnered people out of the gene pool, then you agree that traditional monogamy is over. So, which from the four scenarios will replace it according to you ? Or another one maybe?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 08:19 PM
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This enforcement always created countless tragedies at the individual level, male and female. Yet it was still done because there was no alternative. I disagree, i think all civilizational achievements far outweights any bad collateral effects, i believe there isn't any better arrangement than enforced monogamy and probably it will never exist any other better.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 03:12 PM
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But what TRP has to do with it ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 03:07 PM
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So 1 or 2 scenario and maybe a mix of it for you ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 03:01 PM
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People don't take polyamory as seriously as you think to worry about it lol outside a particular niche, elite high status people are even more traditionally monogamous and less serially monogamous, it seems they push for polyamory but don't actually practice it, maybe the 4 scenario is the right one based on that, elite people will keep monogamy and their heritages alives and common people will have to settle for fluid and unstable relationships or even not breeding at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 02:54 PM
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People desire it but aren't ready or able to sacrifice things for it, basically modern individualistic values are not compatible with traditional marriage, for me marriage is dead as an institution, people still wanting it does not change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 02:28 PM
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That isn't traditional monogamy though, but don't you think singleness is increasing because of other factors besides people choosing it ? And that this will push for alternative dynamics ? Also that fluidity in relationships that you mentioned aka serial monogamy reduces long term investment and stability, i think people will inevitably give up on that or try to move to other dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 01:29 PM
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Was widespread monogamy always innately more costly to women than men because far more women get forced into being with a partner they do not desire than men? No because widespread monogamy highly benefits men, and when men get empowered it benefits women more, so the cost to women is lower than the outcome. Or are we doing something to inflate female selectivity levels? Partially yes, women are naturally selective and the fact that they're sexually free now means that they can fully act on that…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 05:32 AM
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Why do you think it will stabilize ? And what are the reasons for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 05:10 AM
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That’s not to say some form of social policing through a mix of shame, morality or other social structure might again evolve to govern the dynamic for normal folk. Yeah, and that's the best and most human solution, coming back to traditional modes of being, but the reason i didn't mention it is because i'm very skeptical of that return, maybe autocracies like China or Russia could do that, but in the liberal world i can't see any social/political or cultural force capable of doing it, everything…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 05:09 AM
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Sometimes i think finding an autistic woman to date would be great for a ADHD with nerdy hobbies like me but then i remember that most autistic guys have it much harder than austic women and don't have the privilege men give to women. Also, how do you even approach or find autistic girls? I don't know but their autistic male counterparts does not have the privilege of being approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:57 PM
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As i said, that's more what the BP and incel community believe, RP believes women demanding transactions is natural and valid, but generally women likes to talk transactionally when it's their side of the bargain but hates it when it's men's side. About love, i'm not entirely blackpilled about it but i'm skeptical of courtly and romantic love, i honestly wouldn't mind not being loved by a woman if she respected, obeyed and honoured me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:12 PM
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You don't understand how much privation and invisiblity many men experience, we can't explain to someone who does not have a male perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 05:51 PM
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Very good points.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:59 PM
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But those men don't disagree with your point, what we're saying is that the tradeoff isn't fair or worth anymore, it's about the transaction and not about having a transaction. RP will generally says we need to make it worth and fair, now many in the BlackPill does indeed complain about it having a transaction, many think real love from women isn't possible because of that and get disillusioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:38 PM
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Blah blah blah You're creating a moralistic dichotomy that only exists in your head. Evil antisocial male traits = bad - Awesome social female traits = good. When in reality many of the antisocial traits are necessary for survival and sucess, if you don't understand that competition and dominance are necessary, then you're naive or hypocritical, not to the mention that antisocial traits are seeked out and rewarded by females, sexually and romantically, and they themselves share those traits too.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:05 PM
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That's most women
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 03:15 AM
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Most women don't put any effort on dating and even making themlseves approachable, a lot of women are lazy vegetables.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 07:19 PM
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Nah, it just reiterates people's dumbness and hipocrisy, it's selfish of men for having standards but awesome of women for having it, women push bluepill because it selfishly benefits them, they keep the privileges without any consequence, bluepill is power for women and RP is for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 05:21 PM
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For most people yes, but what constitutes a happy relationship and how to achieve that is different by each view. Bluepill is failling to provide that since we're living in the most toxic period for relationships and family formation, rampant divorces and infedility, unhappy marriages, family crisis, birth rates crisis etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 04:29 PM
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You do what is best for you, that's up to each person. But the real truth is that our society isn't compatible with LTR, it's oil and water, this will become more and more clear, and from this generation onwards you can count marriage as officialy dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 04:15 PM
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What i'm saying is that bluepill is prevalent among older generations, and RP among younger generations, for obvious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 04:09 PM
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No, we want different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 04:06 PM
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Yeah because most bluepillers are from older generations, but being married today isn't any flex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 04:05 PM
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Bluepillers are selfish too, but from women's perspective, everyone seeks out their own interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 02:38 PM
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It's because we love women very much or atleast our idealized view of women, that's our penance or reward, nowadays it's more the former, but it's a tension that we have to deal with, there's no simple answers. I honestly pretty much gave up on LTR, not the idea of it, it was my dream having a wife and being a father, but i was forced to give up on that because i'm too skeptical and pessimistic with society and modern dating. So, i do want a LTR but not in the current arrangement and culture, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 04:05 AM
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They love being manipulated, most of them knows they are being manipulated but love the thrill and emotion from it, until the bad boy dumps them, then suddenly they're poor victims preyed on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 11:05 PM
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The ideal is monogamy, i think most RP men agree with that, it's post feminist society and women that are pushing for polygamy, RP just acknowledge the situation and adapt to it in different ways, generally men at the top will try to benefit from that, men at the bottom or average will be careful or hesitant about relationships. I feel disturbed and empathetic for raped women, not with women willingly entering harems.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 08:21 PM
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Nope. You don't know how men operate, we do know how women operate however.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 07:51 PM
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Cheating should be punished in a normal society, so i don't agree with the premisse of your question about violence being never accepted. But since modern society hold cheating as acceptable then it's up to you to get married in this arrangement, if you do then it would be really stupid to beat your wife for that, you would face legal and social consequences besides being cheated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 07:44 PM
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Try to convince other women in this sub to be honest about this lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 07:09 PM
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No, it's the total opposite LMAO, violent men and criminals are overwhelmingly from fatherless homes and raised by single mamas lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 06:51 PM
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Maybe that woman isn't really objectively attractive, not because men are influencing each other. If we find a woman really attractive, nothing can't convince us otherwise, we actually get flabbergasted when other men rate women we find attractive as ugly. Having a gf that other men aren't attracted would be a fantasy, exclusivist fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 06:46 PM
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If we find a woman attractive even if 10 men says she isn't, it wouldn't make us change our minds, we're individualistic, women are the complete opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 03:21 PM
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Women love to talk transactionally when it benefits them but get mad when the RP does it, men are already seeking alternative methods and nowadays those methods seems better and cheaper then going to dates or sexless marriages, it isn't worth it, things got so unfair for men that even humans most primal urge isn't making us put the effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:35 PM
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"I have always been taught men are very direct and go for what they want." Yeah, a very patriarchal and traditional notion that all of you here feminists and progressists seems to be fine with, suddenly they can't sense internalized misogyny lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:24 PM
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Men won't approach and will choose to be single if it simply not worth it, that's already happening as per stats, being approached isn't a divinely absolute right that you have lol, it's a gender and social role that men upheld but when it stops making sense men won't do it, which is now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:20 PM
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That's just wishful thinking and delusion, women don't care while they're younger, when they get older suddenly they care very much, they're fine because society gives them confidence that they can always secure a LTR in their 30's, not gonna happen, the damage for men in the current dating scene is short term and it came first, for women it will be long term and come last. GenZ women will feel it pretty harshly in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 06:48 PM
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Good men can't step up because the system punish and take advantage of us if we do, bad men won't step up and many women keep selecting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 06:21 PM
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It's situational, as i said everyone helping each other is probably the best, but many women wouldn't have the ability to survive so providing physical and emotional comfort would've been natural and mutually beneficial. In the case of OP's scenario, the woman accepted having sex with him for his help, the guy seems to be fine on his own then, although i probably wouldn't get angry or act like him, it isn't absurd or evil on his part. The problem is that you want men to interact with women separ…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 10:46 PM
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Because men often do? Not always. But some men really expect sexual favors for participating with us in anyway. What we see as mutually beneficial, some men don't see the worth of working with us if sex isn't involved Yeah and that's normal, we see things from different perspectives, in the man's perspective maybe it isn't mutually beneficial, we can use OP's scenario, the second man could've survive on his own without the woman's help, maybe she could've even been a burden. Feminism ingrained t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 08:58 PM
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The ideal and realistic scenario is the three of them working together but she gave limited options to make a point about how men expectings things reciprocally from women is evil and awful, as i said, that's just entitlement, delusion and hypocrisy. Only women and men they're attracted are human beings with desires and needs, other men should just give things for free out of pure selflessness, give me a break lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 07:28 PM
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Women always feel entitled to things but think men feeling entitled is evil and wrong, they think everything men (that they aren't attracted btw) does should be selfless and pure as if everything a woman does isn't motivated by self interest and desire as any normal human being. It's just a poor form of manipulation aimed to deny men that they don't like while keeping a virtuous facade and not losing the things they feel entitled from men. You can't take this serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 03:28 PM
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Because people are lazy and dishonest so it's better to scapegoat things than to face reality, "It's Andrew Tate" "It's the manosphere that's ruining everything", not because of decades of deeper cultural and social shifts lol, they choose to give simplistic answers to complex problems due to dishonesty and cowardice. Meanwhile RP and the manosphere are the only ones with honesty and courage to face things and propose solutions, of course they'll win, the other side does not even have the balls …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 03:27 AM
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Number 1 is for both men and women, number 3 is focused on women. I honestly think men are opting out more than women, this follow the overall trend of men also opting out of work and college, relationships are now more risky to men than for women, women are just postponing it due to hookup, education, high standards etc, not because they're giving up. About your solution, young men aren't being coddled, quite the opposite, we are being driven out of spaces and institutions because they are host…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:00 PM
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Well that's more easy said than done, but overall it should start with: Reevaluating or totally giving up on hookup culture. Reforming marriage and divorce laws and less government interference on that sphere to make men less risk aversing and relationships more balanced and fair to men again. Recognizing years of internalized misandry and gynocentrism on institutions and society, stopping cuddling women and make them in tune and accord with their equal foot and rights in society. Why do you thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 04:21 PM
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Wouldn't be better to improve relationships instead of people not forming it ? That just creates a bigger problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 03:58 PM
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Yup and that's sad, it's part of a larger trend of common people not having anything essential in life and being reduced to consumers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 01:57 PM
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Not only they just want to complain but the true nature of their complaints is not that these men are bad, it's because they dump them or mistreat them, they get mad because they want to lock these guys but can't, and they take out the anger on other men, especially average men. If you read the alpha widow concept this goes further.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 11:51 PM
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It really isn't just a matter of looks, it's true that jail is full of average and ugly guys, but for sure most of them get women with ease, women are attracted to dark triad toxic guys in various degrees, niceness and stability isn't exciting, atleast until a certain point in life and in many women it never become. People just want to live in denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 11:30 PM
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So being raped and abused = accountability now I don't know how you got to that conclusion you won’t be happy as long as you slurp up the red pill hate, the world will move on without you, you are accountable for the way you treat women, if you hate them the way you do and think they deserve less than you they aren’t interested. I think people in this subreddit already debunked the fair world and women are awesome theories, i don't need to get into that basic stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 09:54 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 09:24 PM
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Of course, we'll do the same but don't get mad
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:47 PM
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Undesirables = Men that won't be beta buxs to provide emotional and financial support when we need it Women can pursue their self interests but men can't 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:45 PM
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I can't and don't need to do anything lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:30 PM
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Yeah, they avoid accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 07:04 PM
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Everyone acts out of self interest, the problem is when half the population has more privileges than what they contribute, it creates an unbalanced and dysfunctional society.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 07:03 PM
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No, they have normal desire too, the difference is that it's much harder to trigger it because real attraction to women is very skewed while men find most women somewhat attractive, both are due to biological reasons. You can see how women around you react when they see top guys in TV or on the streets for example, they get as excited as men, they don't need any responsive desire when they're really attracted, women will go crazier than men when they're really attracted (even forgiving evilness)…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 06:14 PM
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Exactly, feminism in practice is just = maximizing privileges for women while minimizing as much accountability as possible. Any other meaning is wrong. You can see the effect of it in this post, women falling for dark triad is because of childhood abuse lol, the idea that they like it or choose wrong even when knowing it isn't possible, even when we know there's plenty of scientific and practical evidence for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:39 PM
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Women fall for bad men because their qualities attract them, they know they're being manipulated and played but deep down they like, some women will admit this, everything else is bs. What guys complain about is that women frequently say they can sense bad guys but always end up with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:13 PM
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I don't know about that, but relationships are becoming more and more a privilege and not the norm, and people in happy marriages are now feeling that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 04:53 PM
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Women overwhelminly support left wing and progressive politics which makes society unstable (high leniency to crime, ilegal immigration, anti family bias, identitarian politics etc). Many women have hybristophilic tendencies which makes them being attracted and have sympathy towards thugs and psychopats, including women in postions like politicians, judges, lawyers, social services etc. Women today are pursuing hypergamy totally unchecked, that creates instability in relationships and family for…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:18 AM
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I don't know what you're trying to argue here, nothing on your post makes any sense. If you're trying to say that theocracies are necessarily poor that isn't the case, Saudi Arabia is rich for example, Afghanistan is poor for several reasons and would still be regardless of women's rights, Iran isn't that poor, they're quite developed for a heavy sanctioned country. Now, the west isn't prosperous and developed because women have rights, it was already prosperous much before that, women having ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 05:07 AM
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Yeah, female nature is chaotic by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 02:32 AM
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Modern relationships are more like competition than team work, gender roles are actually the real team work.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 03:22 AM
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It brings good for any man that do it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 08:36 PM
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I'm not saying we should become women, i'm saying we should emalute their self love and self esteem in the context of the post, i totally agree about seeking strenght, that's why i said in another comment here that embracing your masculinity is the best thing you can do against the system. We're living in a schizophrenic society that tries to castrate men but at the same time still demand and depend on men's efforts, that's why traditional masculinity puts us at a disadvantage, clown society dem…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 06:30 PM
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I'm not and although i agree with OP's evaluation i don't think the solution is to castrate ourselves, embracing your masculinity is actually the best thing you can do against the feminist gynecocractic system, even if we have less and less ways to express it, it's a matter of principles.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 03:14 AM
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Many modern men have low self esteem and self worth. What we should do is just to emalute modern women behavior, be selfish, be self centered, love yourself, seek your interests first, high self steem and worth etc, they're doing right, we doing it wrong. We need to create a new form of masculinity compatible with our time, a more individualistic one, traditional chivalric masculinity isn't compatible anymore and should be discouraged.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 07:31 PM
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Women's indepedence is a purely artificial thing and not without consequences either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 03:50 PM
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It isn't though, i'm not saying everything else is a cope, i'm saying there's an order of things and family is at the center where everything else sprout from. It's common sense. Relationships = Family = Civilization Without that things obviously doesn't have any meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 02:27 PM
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Money for what ? If it's just for basic survival then we'll do the bare minimum only, yes we do expect to have a faithful wife and raising a family implicitly, you're just seeing things superficially.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 02:18 PM
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I don't know where you getting that, the numbers are much higher and taking into account men generally lie about that too, it's probably even higher. Search for more recent surveys.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 02:38 AM
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It's more complex than that, there is a social contract underlying these things, that means in a certain sense men do expect to form relationships and build a family for the efforts that they make in society, since ever, and that's normal, we are not entitled to women as long as society and women aren't entitled to our efforts. Efforts that aren't solely a one time thing as you put, but to maintain everything continuosly. Second, the men who did weren’t doing it as a gift to women. They did it f…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 01:27 AM
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You're right that thirsty men ruins dating and the number of simps outnumber smart men, but it is still feminism fault for that, because dismantling patriarchy also meant simping is allowed and male and romantic urges aren't regulated, and most men can't help their sexual and biological urges, they settle for anything because of it. But things are changing, many men espcially from my generation is seeing the imbalance and are opting out.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 07:13 PM
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Bluepill isn't an ideology, you're right, though i don't believe Redpill is an ideology either, but that's another discussion. Bluepill exists only as a relative negative concept to Redpill. The way i define bluepill would be: 1. Believing in the mainstream liberal worldview consensus of today. Applying this worldview to gender and relationships dynamics, though bluepill in dating for nothing being something systematized means bluepill people can hold different views as you said, there's core va…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 05:43 PM
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Asking a simply question is overthinking, ok lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 04:42 PM
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Ok, can you give me examples of those "incel" beliefs that bluepill men hold ?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 04:10 PM
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Ok, putting it simpler, non red/black pill men are struggling with dating and women too as well, so this argument that men are struggling because of their "incel" beliefs is a delusion and a fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 03:49 PM
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If that was true then: 1. Left leaning men that rejects redpill or just average bluepill men wouldn't be struggling with dating, which isn't true. Women wouldn't be struggling although for different reasons, which isn't true. That means the problem is structural and not specific behavior from some men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 03:25 PM
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