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White men are certainly coveted and fetishized among ethnic women, particularly when it comes to asian women (oxford study, jbw). Any somewhat average looking white guy who’s spent anytime in China, Japan, etc knows this. The ethnic tax real <image>
/r/BlackPillScience18/01/26 05:15 PM
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In the vast majority of countries most women would pick the white guy no question.
/r/BlackPillScience18/01/26 04:34 PM
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I understand. I think white men hit the “sweet spot” for many women in terms of being found physically attractive enough (passing the looks threshold) + high enough economic/social status. Thanks for engaging with my post.
/r/BlackPillScience18/01/26 03:47 PM
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There is mountains of empirical evidence pointing to JBW and white men having a significant advantage in the dating market across the globe. Outside of certain niches it really isn’t even close
/r/BlackPillScience18/01/26 03:20 PM
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Women pair off with men who are sufficiently (fux + bux) in the same package, it’s a balance. Calling relationships strictly beta bux is reductive. Women usually secure genes and resources from the same male via monogamy, only low mate value women avail themselves to getting genes from one and resources from another (dual mating). You still need to pass the looks bar for any relationship, and white men pass it on average more than blacks.
/r/BlackPillScience18/01/26 03:05 PM
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Try to look past your own experiences and look at the data. It’s fine you see it that way, but the evidence doesn’t. <image>
/r/BlackPillScience18/01/26 02:31 PM
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It’s a relative matter, but yes older white men SEAmaxxing are mostly leveraging currency arbitrage + status boost. Can’t play fair in an unfair game. In western multicultural cities your average white man has a substantial advantage over a similar ethnic male regarding dating opportunities.
/r/BlackPillScience18/01/26 06:12 AM
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Anecdotal 1M clubhouse aside, most data points to white men being highest smv. Height certainly matters, but as far being a disqualifying factor (especially amongst white women) race seems to be more important unless you’re very short <5’7
/r/BlackPillScience18/01/26 04:12 AM
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I just find it interesting. Everyone talks about face, height, money, status but researching important factors in dating success, race always rears it’s head.
/r/BlackPillScience18/01/26 03:54 AM
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So you believe among most white women a black man would beat a white man, all things being equal?
/r/BlackPillScience18/01/26 03:45 AM
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Most white women would choose a handsome 5’10 white man over a 6’4 handsome of any other race, yes.
/r/BlackPillScience18/01/26 03:40 AM
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Arrange marriagemaxx is my advice
/r/BlackPillScience18/01/26 03:19 AM
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Right lol it’s all social conditioning. So much for the blackpill JFL
/r/BlackPillScience18/01/26 02:10 AM
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Right…propaganda aka genetics and performance (competence)
/r/BlackPillScience18/01/26 02:01 AM
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On average, white men have the highest smv cross culturally. To claim otherwise is giga cope. End of story
/r/BlackPillScience18/01/26 01:57 AM
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Literally the source for the 80/20 dogma
/r/BlackPillScience18/01/26 01:54 AM
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How you come to this conclusion is beyond me. Being a white male > all. Especially at 5’9+. I’m talking amongst population average perceived attractiveness
/r/BlackPillScience18/01/26 01:50 AM
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<image> Lol sure. JBW is law boyo
/r/BlackPillScience18/01/26 01:38 AM
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Whites have more pronounced facial bone structure on average than asian males. + possible height advantage
/r/BlackPillScience18/01/26 01:24 AM
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Yeah I see what you’re saying. Stated vs revealed preferences is an interesting topic
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 04:15 AM
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Yeah I’d agree the ethnic tax is pretty substantial
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 04:04 AM
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They sound pretty masculine to me. Low inhibition and marching to the beat of your own drum is attractive to many if you meet the minimum looks threshold for a particular women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 04:00 AM
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I know many young dudes with girlfriends and they aren’t all the same physically at all. Maybe it’s just my friend group idk
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 03:42 AM
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I’ve known guys of different heights, faces be successful in getting girlfriends, hookups, etc. The most important trait in my opinion is being neurotypical.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 03:39 AM
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And yet a walk outside will show you men who have literally none of the traits you listed partnered up and with children of their own
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 03:21 AM
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Neurotypicality is the real Blackpill
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 08:40 PM
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If you test positive just stay in and crush beers
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 03:17 AM
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Both are thin people so I’d say above average by default in many states. Either way bro said she’s average at best. It’s just not true that’s all
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 02:53 AM
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True, but that doesn’t make her average. In the States she’s easily above average no question
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 02:48 AM
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Some of the happiest seeming people I know are rural fatty couples who paired off young
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 02:01 AM
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Lol take a joke bro. The average women in the US is fat stop the cope
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 01:52 AM
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I’m too pretty to work that much 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 10:24 PM
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If she starts acting like that I’m dumping her and gettin a new girl
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 10:14 PM
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I skipped a lot to smoke with friends or just go home and hang with my dog
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 09:21 PM
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Men sent their own way always make me laugh. Trash taking itself out
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 07:32 PM
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Fair point. I don’t subscribe to the alpha = good, beta = bad line of thinking. I think good beta traits (future time orientation, signalling resources, treating others well, stability, education) are a net positive if you’re able to mix them with enough physical attractiveness/ alpha traits for a given women. The blend of a/b traits needed will be different for different women in my view.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 05:58 PM
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There is no contextual alpha for your face, race, height, neurotypicality. The practical approach is aiming be perceived as the most attractive of the realistic options a specific women has in her proximity. You will need to be realistic in your expectations of what this women will look like depending on your SMV/RMV and be open to compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 04:01 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:43 PM
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This issue is the lack of understanding in the fact that it’s a sum of parts not one feature. It’s like a 5’9 guy with an above average face vs a 6’1 guy with an average face. Some women would pick the former and some the latter. Race, location, neurotypicality all play a role too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:41 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:36 PM
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Don’t bring your nuance around here sir this is ppd
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:34 PM
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No, I do care. My gf has a great sense of humour. I find your condescending comment regarding “99% of you ain’t shit” to be pathetic, that’s all. Humble yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 05:49 PM
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You sound like a real catch
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 05:35 PM
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I didn’t believe in was possible to make a post on ppd literally every day, but yet here you are OP
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 03:58 PM
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So what’s your plan as you age while being a single, childless man?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 04:06 PM
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I think most fathers would say having children changed their lives for the better. I guess we just have different values. Thanks for answering
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 03:18 PM
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What if you want children?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 03:02 PM
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This is a good point. I’m not denying that it happens, I’m just pointing out that there’s a good chunk of women who don’t engage in casual sex and were in committed relationships at those ages too. Regardless, my original comment was touching on the fact that most highly educated women aren’t going to be single mothers. That’s all
/r/BlackPillScience18/09/25 11:36 PM
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Yeah that’s true, I was doing the same so I can’t judge
/r/BlackPillScience18/09/25 10:38 PM
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Well I’m in the US. The average women gets married in their late 20’s/early 30’s here. A highly educated women within that demographic usually isn’t marrying someone after 6 months. They’ll likely have been together for years prior to tying the knot
/r/BlackPillScience18/09/25 07:34 PM
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I’m sure some do, some don’t. I don’t think the date “chad” in 20’s, get with unattractive guy in 30’s trope is as common as people claim, no. Does it happen, sure, but based on average age of first marriage I think most women meet their spouse in their 20’s and they date each other for years before marriage.
/r/BlackPillScience18/09/25 07:26 PM
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Weird to see a comment like this get downvoted when it’s absolutely true all because it’s not doomer talk. College educated, middle class couples have divorce rates far lower than the “muh 50% of marriages end in divorce” with no context or controls https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2015/12/04/education-and-marriage/ “Overall marital dissolution and divorce rates are declining over time. However, this downward trend is driven by those with higher education; those with the least education a…
/r/BlackPillScience17/09/25 11:07 PM
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An educated man would most likely be marrying an educated women. The odds of a women within that demographic having bastards out of wedlock or being divorced are low.
/r/BlackPillScience17/09/25 09:40 PM
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Education & Class is very important because the fact is college educated couples have a divorce rate far lower than 50%. The statistic that 1/2 of all marriages end in divorce is meaningless because you haven’t controlled for education. The demographic matters when it comes to marriage statistics. If both you and your spouse have bachelors degrees the odds are good your marriage will last.
/r/BlackPillScience17/09/25 09:31 PM
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I view it from the perspective of passing a car accident. I just can’t seem to look away
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 03:00 PM
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So are we going to seriously pretend there’s no correlation between married intact families, educational attainment of parents and their offspring doing better compared to kids from uneducated, broken homes? C’mon. In American too, with both my parents being educated professionals. Almost none of my friends mothers were overweight. It’s an obvious class distinction
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 02:41 PM
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The divorce rate for college educated couples is far lower than that of less educated peers. It’s why people always whining about the divorce rate being at 50% without controlling for education is just stupid. The demographic matters It’s doesn’t take a genius to observe the parenting style, nutrition, time for extracurriculars, etc is different between UMC and kids from the ghetto/trailer park. Being raised by a single mother with a GED vs a divorced family practitioner will certainly lead to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 02:19 PM
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How to you explain the plethora of examples to the contrary? The average age of marriage in the US is around 30 for men, of which many will surely be conventionally attractive men within that pool
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 02:03 PM
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Yes they will be monogamous and it will happen in their 20’s/30’s for most. You’re making the mistake of describing you think reality SHOULD be vs how it actually IS
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 12:49 PM
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The overwhelming, vast majority of good looking men will come nowhere near a body count of 100 and will marry/cohabitate monogamously long before 40-50 years of age.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 05:17 AM
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Class blindness in these comments. No UMC man no matter how attractive is purposely having children with multiple women out of wedlock, that’s absurd. They will marry after tertiary education to a college educated peer and be in the demographic with low divorce rates. Lower class men are the ones far more likely to have multiple children with multiple baby’s mommas and this pool of women they will date is a different pool of women than middle class+ men do. TLDR it’s not a matter of attractivene…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 05:13 AM
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That’s fair and probably the best strategy. Some liquid courage can do wonders
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 01:33 AM
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Yeah exactly At a bar or club I would/do think to myself where do I stand relative to others here. I would always wait to receive and IOI instead of cold approaching. Fear of rejection definitely played a role Maybe not being attracted to men makes it hard to see what’s attractive about oneself idk
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 01:24 AM
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Right on. Her initiating is always a pretty good feeling
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 01:13 AM
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Was talking about this today. My sister told me she’d turn me in had I done the same😢
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 01:08 AM
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Had a very similar experience lol. One day I’ll feel hot, the next not. I can get positive reinforcement and still second guess
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 01:03 AM
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You guys must be some ugly dudes to think it’s very rare lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 08:21 PM
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I think his wife and children would disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 03:43 PM
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Very nuanced take from you, Autistic Cool Kid
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 12:48 PM
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OP is clearly taking about “gaslighting” pertaining to what she perceives as men denying having seen comments like yours. Not whether or not those views are accurate
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 12:28 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 09:53 PM
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That kitchencels sub is pretty funny
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 07:13 PM
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Ok, interesting. Maybe I’m out of touch lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 06:50 PM
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Have none of you guys had a women wanna rip your clothes off? Tell you she finds you hot? Is this really that rare?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 06:44 PM
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You really think he wouldn’t have any women physically attracted to him? Sure maybe below like 5’5, but a good face above that height and you’re in a good spot.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 06:39 PM
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All women not finding the same men attractive ≠ that everyone is attractive to somebody. Clearly a false dichotomy. If a dude like Jeremy Allen White wasn’t famous I bet there would still be women finding him attractive and he’s facially average, definitely not conventionally attractive. Attractiveness is a holistic measure. A tall guy can be found unattractive because of a bad face, just like a shorter man can be found attractive because of a good face. It’s the sum of parts, not usually one sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 05:18 PM
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Why is it always black and white? It’s either a tall, handsome, guy with big dick or a short guy with a small dick when the conversation comes up. Reality is most people are in the middle of the curve where subjectivity comes in to play.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 01:47 PM
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Rent free
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 10:17 PM
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Hopefully everyone is outside 6-7 days a week. And sure bro
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 08:28 PM
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What’s the average height around you? Gotta be around 5’5, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 07:20 PM
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Latinas it is my friend
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 07:17 PM
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Unless you’re like 5’5 I honestly think face matters more
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 07:15 PM
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Not sure. I’m 5’10 in college with a girlfriend who also goes to my school. Most of my friends have gfs and we’re all in the 5’9-6ft range. Can only speak on my experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 07:06 PM
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Walking outside and observing real life couples is the best antidote to this nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 06:13 PM
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Idk going to bar/clubs has worked for me personally. Dance together, kiss, go home or their place together. Women will lurk around you making eye contact, get in your personal space while dancing or just approach sometimes. Living in a college town helps I’m sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 03:04 PM
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As a fellow gen z i’m sorry to hear this
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 02:51 PM
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The average man can’t have casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 02:50 PM
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I’ve been there, but please don’t base major life decisions on stuff you read on places like this. Go meet women in real life and make your choice based on lived experience. There is no risk free path. That’s life
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 02:46 PM
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Hope you find your rich man to marry sweetie
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 01:09 AM
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Most of my friends who are married or cohabiting were the same guys who were dating, going clubbing, hooking up in college. High n count guys, marry high n counts girls, and the rest mostly do the same. It’s assortative
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 12:54 AM
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I don’t believe the cartoonish theory that the majority of women sleep around in their 20’s and trick a guy in their 30’s. Most people have body counts in the single digits and are monogamous. I mean look up the CDC stats, most women are living with a partner by their late 20’s. I don’t deny it ever happens, but I don’t believe it’s anywhere near the majority of marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 12:21 AM
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This idea that most women marry the men they rejected previously is just nonsense. The average age an American women marries is around 28 with a major chunk of them meeting their future spouses at college and in their 20’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 12:07 AM
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Most average, neurotypical, reasonably well adjusted people will be married or cohabitating at around their 30th birthday after years of dating. Ppd will be writing about their premonition of impending AI girlfriends and why it’s actually now the 99/1 rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 11:58 PM
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Fanfic. The average age of first marriage for an American women is around 30. People date for years before tying the knot. The man this women marries is likely the same guy she’s been dating since her early/mid 20’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 11:46 PM
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Nuance and redpill autists mix like oil and water
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 09:10 PM
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The mennonites had it right all along
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 02:48 AM
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Only bottom of the barrel men will ever go full sex bot/AI gf. Odds are most normie men will pair off with a normie women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 02:47 AM
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Probably didn’t help being a short hapa + neurodivergent in Southern California while also being Stacy only
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 09:31 PM
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Good thing reality isn’t black and white where you’re either a 6’2 billionaire with a perfect face or short, ugly, and poor lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 08:33 PM
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I swear it exists! Had some this morning
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 06:00 PM
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Gay man advocates for promiscuous sexual behaviour, more at 11
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 04:39 PM
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Completely agree, unfortunately speaking about topics like the issues with Islam still gets plenty of pushback from individuals in the west. Hopefully governments wake up and control immigration form the Middle East. They have no interest in integration but rather subversion of western customs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 09:09 PM
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I don’t disagree, I’m just telling you what it is. The same with Muslim immigrants, they seem to have no issue having a litter of children regardless of their economic standing. The future belongs to those who proliferate and the two groups I mentioned with have a disproportionate population down the line
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 08:30 PM
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Women do approach men tho… Happened to me many times
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 01:48 AM
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Lol yeah that was my face
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 08:50 PM
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What about minoxidil + finasteride?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:30 AM
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Got it man. Sounds like exercise and you’ll be good to go
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 03:46 AM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 03:36 AM
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C’mon the guy was tryna help you out
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 03:27 AM
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Livin the good life
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 03:22 AM
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Yeah maybe. I just personally know too many tall guys with bad faces who struggle immensely. I think not being noticeably short is more important than being tall. Imo at 5’9+ face and fitness reigns supreme, but height halo definitely helps especially with certain women who really value it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 03:19 AM
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True, as a 5’10 guy with a good face it’s led me to believe it’s very important given my experience, it’s obviously nuanced tho. Working out can help, but much of what makes a face attractive with low bf % are features that were already there to begin with: jawline, high cheekbones, facial bone structure, eye area.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 03:13 AM
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Fuck I missed it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 02:58 AM
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Face is important, probably the most important. No gym for that
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 02:57 AM
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Average height is not holding you back from dating success
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 02:52 AM
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Post it dude, I’m curious
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 10:54 PM
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<image> I don’t. Too sexy for a beard…srry
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 09:53 PM
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And lower class people who don’t suffer form middle class Reddit neuroticism and don’t think about these things will have 4 kids and continue livin like they always have
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 09:11 PM
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The irony is this is exactly what men here do as well. If they have zero success with women, therefor they’ll claim -> no average men are desired either
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 08:47 PM
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Yeah I was just saying his entire ramble is utter nonsense. Bros probably got a small dick and thinks 6 inches is massive idk
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 07:42 PM
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It’s nonsense. Engaging with reality and looking at married couples you know will tell you none of these things are true
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 07:36 PM
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And yet the majority of married men don’t have any of the 3. You just regurgitate false bullshit you read online Most normal well adjusted men don’t demand a virgin either lmao. Imagine being this detached from reality
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 07:33 PM
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Of course people want a partner they find attractive. The issue is when manosphere autists extrapolate that out and say women ONLY like tall, dark, and handsome, and if ur not it’s over for you, when’s it observably false. Some 5’8 dude with a decent face isn’t doomed to never be found attractive because he’s not tall. Same way a women who isn’t a literal model will still have plenty of men who find her attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 08:33 AM
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There are millions of men across America who fuck and don’t have height, looks, status, or money beyond the ordinary. No doubt they help, but you don’t NEED any of that shit if you just look at the men coupled up IRL
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 03:58 AM
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At 5’8 and this physique ur in a good spot. It all comes down to your face and being neurotypical now
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 12:56 AM
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Muh top 20% only attract women my ass. Good for chubs
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 12:55 AM
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So what % of men would this same group consist of in your view?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 11:12 PM
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I see. Hope things change for you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 10:22 PM
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I get the feeling ur not 5/10 in the face if ur 6’3 and still can’t pull a door handle brother
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 10:16 PM
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You cherry picked one example which is fine but doesn’t depict reality for most people. The majority of people pair off assortatively across various domains like looks, socioeconomic class, IQ. Assortative mating is the reality of human relationships for the vast majority of people which is what I was referring to
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:18 PM
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Sure you probably will struggle if you’re 5’3 and autistic. Most Americans are fat and I know many young men coupled up who are no conventional chad themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:13 PM
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Ronaldo is a great looking guy he’d do well if he was broke. Regardless, they’re pretty looks matched. It’s assortive mating homogamy like most relationships in real life
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:09 PM
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People date and marry those in proximity to them. Smarter to marry the women who has more in common with you like education, IQ, interests, work ethic than some bimbo status chasing
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:02 PM
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Plenty of billionaires married to average looking women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 08:49 PM
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Women only considering all the same men just isn’t reality. A walk outside will tell you this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 08:47 PM
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I think most peoples faces are decent enough, just be low bf % and they’ll attract a partner, if they play the numbers game A few unlucky people due to bad bone structure probably only have a chance via plastic surgery unfortunately. Using it to try and look perfect tho is just mental illness imo
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 08:34 PM
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Unfortunately, there is no gym for your face
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 10:30 PM
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Yes I have been approached many times at college bars, clubs in recent years. Extroverted women can be overt especially when drinking is involved. I don’t how common it is though only have my anecdotal experiences
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 09:51 PM
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Idk about others guys, but the hookups I’ve had besides tinder were all from women I had met in a club setting. They gave clear IOI’s like strong eye contact, usually move within your general vicinity and look back at you a couple times, maybe flash a smile, it’s pretty obvious when a women wants you to talk to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 05:45 PM
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Username checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 07:05 PM
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I guess ur boy Aaron is late to the party in ur view
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:37 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 07:29 AM
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Question 4All: when do you think the ideal age range is for a man to marry, start having kids? If you believe in an ideal time at all
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 05:01 AM
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Neither do men. The vast majority of men who marry are not wealthy in any regard
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:32 AM
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I don’t see how it’s cope. Going where the food is slower, less competition for said food, and more purchasing power is just smart
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:39 AM
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The difference is by geomaxxing you change the men you are competing with. Sexual market places are not the same everywhere, the mogg is relative
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:37 AM
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Idk about 4B, but yeah men who classify themselves as mstow were simply sent their own way
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 08:09 PM
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Water
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 06:08 AM
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I’m a bit surprised Kohberger is accepting a plea deal. Thought he’d take his chances and go to trial
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 04:36 AM
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No problem boyo. Cheers
/r/BlackPillScience27/06/25 05:13 AM
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Directly from the study you posted “On average, children of mothers aged 30–35 and >35 years at childbirth were 1.5 cm taller than the offspring of mothers aged less than 30 years. This difference in stature was accompanied by higher serum IGF-I concentrations in the children born to older mothers, who were taller than children born to mothers aged <30 years. This corroborates our findings, as IGF-I is an important mediator of childhood growth” [28].
/r/BlackPillScience27/06/25 04:35 AM
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It’s obviously not that having children at a later age causes the offspring to be taller, but rather taller women are having children later. Two 5’3 hispanics aren’t having a 5’10 child because they waited til 40. It’s probably due to taller people being higher socioeconomic status on average, lending itself to later child rearing and better nutrition which plays a minor role as well.
/r/BlackPillScience26/06/25 05:09 PM
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Interesting study. I would like to add that children born to older mothers are not only taller, but healthier, and obtain more education than children born to younger mothers (Max et al., 2016) Source: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/04/160412104810.htm Seems like a fair guess would be taller, thinner people are more likely to be affluent or upper middle class+, college educated professionals. This cohort is known to have children later in life after education, marriage.
/r/BlackPillScience26/06/25 04:45 PM
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Yeah thanks for sharing. I think people entering long term relationships and especially marriage have the expectation that it will be hot sex forever, when that was never the purpose of monogamy or marriage in the first place. It stabilizes societies, more equality on the mating market. Marriage is for raising progeny and consolidating wealth, strengthening the family for future generations. Having realistic expectations is something many people lack in regards to long term relationships/marriag…
/r/BlackPillScience25/06/25 07:42 PM
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You bring up a good point citing the Coolidge effect. Given the data on relationships having a positive impact on men’s overall well-being (look away mstow), an interesting corollary question is whether serial monogamy, or one main partner + side pieces for novelty is ideal for many men.
/r/BlackPillScience25/06/25 06:49 PM
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Honestly, idk. I’ve found sex within a committed relationship to be better than casual hookups personally. I’ve definitely enjoyed the novelty that comes with casual sex, but I find it more intimate within relationships, your gf knows what you like and you both know each others bodies well. Especially if you have similar kinks, it can be very passionate
/r/BlackPillScience25/06/25 06:29 PM
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r/WaterIsWetScience
/r/BlackPillScience25/06/25 03:32 AM
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I mean most men and women eventually cohabitate with a monogamous partner so unless the definition of a hvm is endlessly subjective, the theory that most women are holding out for one doesn’t hold up
/r/BlackPillScience19/06/25 01:12 AM
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A good relationship with a women who is compatible with you beats porn every single time
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 09:40 PM
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This is true, nobody knows the dynamics of relationships they see. The vast majority of women do not have nor want rosters and pursue monogamous relationships so it’s a non factor tbh. The mogg is relative
/r/BlackPillScience18/06/25 09:25 PM
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This sounds good in theory, but I gotta say I see looksmatched young couples everyday. I can’t be the only one I feel like it’s kinda sub 5 cope to pretend everyone outside the top % of looks are in the same boat as them and doomed romantically
/r/BlackPillScience18/06/25 02:25 AM
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Makes sense given they were sent their own way
/r/BlackPillScience18/06/25 01:11 AM
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Relationships and life in general are all about compromise. What’s important is if you’re happy with what you have
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 07:45 PM
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Very masculine to let a fucking song offend you. Who gives a fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 06:54 PM
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I have a hard time believing a women can be genuinely incel regardless of their looks given their market power eg: Juggernaut law.
/r/BlackPillScience11/06/25 03:49 AM
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The absolute state of modern research
/r/BlackPillScience10/06/25 06:17 AM
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I love these definitions they conjure up regarding incels, as if they are a monolith. An incel is a man who finds himself involuntarily celibate for a long period of time, end of story. Until this is the accepted definition within academia and not some description of a militant ideologue, nothing will change.
/r/BlackPillScience09/06/25 01:32 AM
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I find the discourse on this sub to be interesting, however pretending sexbots will have any relevance to anyone besides the absolute bottom of the barrel is massive copium
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 05:44 AM
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This sub is full of the weirdest people, it’s no surprise you struggle dating. Log off and go outside
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 04:52 AM
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Yeah I did that in college. Had multiple hookups off tinder between relationships with girls probably below my looksmatch because it was an easy one night stand for my pov. With those girls we were both getting our share how I look at it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 11:56 PM
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American Psychological Assocation https://psycnet.apa.org/manuscript/2022-61496-001.pdf From abstract: “Across five studies (N = 5,204), we investigated implicit evaluations of targets varying in race, gender, social class, and age. Overall, the largest and most consistent evaluative bias was pro-women/anti-men bias” (Connor, et al., 2022)
/r/BlackPillScience21/05/25 09:44 PM
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This paper is a perfect example of the prevalent women-are-wonderful rhetoric within academia
/r/BlackPillScience21/05/25 09:03 PM
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More and more couples are meeting online every year. It’s not some extremely rare outlier case.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 08:36 PM
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Sleeping with 12 women a year from OLD is definitely slayer territory. From what I hear most “average dudes” can’t get a match which blows my mind but still
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 08:26 PM
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Am I the only dude on ppd whos had a positive experience on dating apps? I’ve met 2 girlfriends on them now. 1 on hinge, 1 on tinder
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 07:08 PM
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Yeah it’s called autism
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 10:05 PM
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Yeah I’m not a short guy as well, but I’m sure it’s tough. We didn’t earn this tho, and it’s not his fault. No need to laugh at the guy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 05:22 AM
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Of course not, but nobody claims that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 04:58 AM
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There can be a general rule and people who deviate from it. There are absolutely men who prefer small boobs
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 04:44 AM
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People are easy to deceive
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 09:44 AM
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I could easily future fake and feign long term interest and you’d never know my true intentions
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 09:25 AM
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I don’t believe height plays a massive role, it is a fact. I don’t care what women say, I’m concerned what they do. Anecdotes about dating short men doesn’t remove the fact that height is a very important part of a man’s attractiveness. Denying that being a 5’4 man is a massive disadvantage when it comes to dating is delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:52 AM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:01 AM
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Yeah I hear ya man. Obviously guys around your height do get girlfriends so it’s absolutely possible. Wish you the best my guy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 01:15 AM
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It’s hard to say without knowing what your face looks like tbh. 5’4 in the west is a tough position
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 12:53 AM
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Being 5’4 is a massive disadvantage don’t let anyone gaslight you otherwise. Getting jacked will not help you at 5’4. You’ll just look shorter. Stay lean and probably geomaxx to places where your competition are also men of similar height.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 12:31 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 12:24 AM
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I’m convinced a lot of the “truth” around here is gathered from reading other unsuccessful guys ranting not from observing reality. To push back I don’t love my gf unconditionally either, we all love people under certain conditions. If my girl gained a ton of weight or we stopped fucking I’d dump her too. Men are no exception to this
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 12:14 AM
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Yeah you are probably right in many cases. In my view, leverage whatever you want if it gives you an advantage, just don’t marry them and make sure to keep the relationship over there and it’s a solid strategy in my view I always say looks are still the most important thing so max that out the best you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 11:54 PM
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Yeah I agree a lot of the passport bros that do organized tours are just ugly sub 5’s who are predatory. I’m speaking to at least relatively average looking yt guys, who could move for work. Your height and phenotypical advantage will most likely work in your favour within those SMP’s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 11:28 PM
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Most are not staring at 14, plenty start later and that’s normal. People’s sociosexual development happens at different times. Nothing abnormal or weird about losing your virginity in College. In fact it’s very normal
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 05:49 PM
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The redpill is simply a description of intersexual dynamics. I understand it’s not prescriptive, but most redpillers seem to have more interest in having casual sex within the SMP than marriage or having a family as OP talked about. You can use this information for whatever your goals may be.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 04:59 AM
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Fair enough. I think it would depend on your goals I suppose. Money can definitely allow you to fish in more ponds, but doesn’t mean you’re going to catch anything. Looks are still the most important thing. Plenty of broke men do just fine with women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:55 AM
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Redpillers are largely concerned with being able to attain casual sex with women (male imperative) not cultivate traits for LTRs (RMV). Money can certainly improve your relationship value, but does very little to inspire genuine desire (sexual attraction). Looksmaxxing and or Geomaxxing have the best ROI imo
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:42 AM
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Forgot I had to add /s for the turbo autists here
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:43 AM
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I just gotta say labeling an 18 year old virgin as an incel is just retarded and defeatist. Maybe if he’s 30 or some shit, but 18 is a very normal, common age to be sexually inexperienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:23 AM
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Water is wet. Everything in life is conditional
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 11:28 PM
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Incredible insight, very unique perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 11:28 PM
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Geomaxxing works. You are increasing your market value by changing your location which in turn changes the men you’re competing with. Your standing is about where you stand relative to your competition. Geomaxxing has a higher roi for many men compared to the constant improoove advice
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 08:36 PM
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Objective morality doesn’t exist. I’m free to do whatever I want and I will
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 07:33 PM
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The perfect partner doesn’t exist so we all settle to some degree. In order to optimize for certain traits we desire we often have to be okay compromising on others. Adapting and compromise are part life, what matters in the end is if you’re content with the deal you got or not. Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 06:56 PM
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It’s so rigged that most men find a partner. Below average incels LARPing as normal guys is what annoys people
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 09:37 PM
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Internet forums comprising of discussions relating to the manosphere and feminism are not a good representative sample of how people think writ large. Most people don’t give a shit about your personal life I promise you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 09:35 PM
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Men who are genuinely like that probably have never heard of mgtow in the first place. Those are called bachelors
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 11:30 PM
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Basing your entire identity around being sent your own way while pretending it was your choice all along isn’t exactly the hallmark of success. Men who label themselves Mstows are viewed as a complete joke by the vast majority of people who are aware of it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 11:24 PM
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The demographic matters. The divorce rate is skewed by people who marry multiple times. The divorce rate for people who marry around 30 and have a college education is far lower than people who have no education and marry very young for example
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 11:15 PM
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Imo there’s not many things better in life than having fun and making memories with a good women. Mstow has always been copium
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 11:11 PM
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As a longtime lurker I am glad to see you are starting to use paragraphs
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 05:00 PM
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Also class differences. Seems like often a specific type of middle class, stemlord, neurotic type guy is on Reddit dating subs so it skews the experiences. You’d be surprised what some of the guys in lower class communities who pull often look like. Low inhibition, excitement is underrated imo
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 02:31 PM
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Maybe if he’s like 30 or somethin. Being 20 and inexperienced is still very normal
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 11:03 PM
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single individuals reported lower emotional well-being than partnered individuals (Adamczyk et al., 2014) Data from both qualitative and quantitative methods revealed that romantic relationships have significant and lasting impact of an individual’s development. Both boys and girls reported a positive change in the quality of life, which included positive feelings of happiness and reducing negative states such as anger and sadness (Gala, J., & Kapadia, S. 2013) Those are just a couple, but It is…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 07:38 PM
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JBW strikes again
/r/BlackPillScience02/05/25 05:34 PM
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Just Be White
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:02 PM
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Why would I stop casually sleeping with women who may be “below my league”? It’s takes minimal investment on my part and is low risk. I’ll do what benefits me, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:32 PM
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Yeah, there’s always the risk of getting hurt; that’s life
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:12 AM
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The point is you don’t need to excel at work, gymcel, read 100 books, etc. There are kids all across the United States working minimum wage that have girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:30 PM
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Maybe so, but I don’t think it’s only reserved for only chads or whatever. I’d bet many people know average looking people with strong relationships based on mutual desire. I know I do
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 10:54 PM
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It would depend on who’s asking, I don’t have one size fits all advice to give. I’d say work smarter, not harder. People won’t like this, but for example if it’s a white dude asking me I’d say target ethic girls and use JBW to your advantage. The endless treadmill of self improvement has low ROI for a lot of guys imo. Guys need to go where the food is slower, not try to become faster.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 10:48 PM
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The issue is you don’t need any of those things to land dates or get a gf. Pretending you do is a great way to sell courses and tactical soap tho
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 09:17 PM
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Yeah this sub is quite bizarre, it’s like a car crash that’s hard to look away from. My guess would be mental illness is rampant and definitely neurotypical patterns are noticeable. Splitting the world into black and white is common. Obviously observable reality would show you people of all types in relationships, but some people here will claim all those relationships are devoid of “genuine desire” which is abstract, subjective and conveniently unfalsifiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 08:15 PM
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If you’re a white dude just run jbw
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 04:51 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:43 AM
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Keep frequenting ppd I’m sure it helps
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:33 AM
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I guess I’m not online enough to be part of the ppd friend group. I’ll take it as a compliment
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 01:44 AM
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A man of culture I see
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 01:33 AM
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Ya ik I’m an asshole
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 01:31 AM
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Good riddance. The whole woe is me thing is just pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 01:16 AM
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<image> My gf always knows how to romance me lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 01:12 AM
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This is a great way to put it. Prior to college I was just so busy with extracurriculars that I never gave much thought to dating, relationships. Once I moved out and went away go school my new found freedom ignited my interest in sex, dating, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 06:22 PM
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It’s all in your head bro!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 06:05 PM
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I understand I'm just saying I did all that stuff except date. I hung out with friends did, all the normal things. Wasn’t at all uncommon amongst me peers to start dating after finishing high school. Just my experience. I don’t think beginning to date in college is all that uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:01 PM
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I played collegiate ball as well. I grew up secular, but it just wasn’t something I focused on at that age. Looking back i certainly had opportunities to date, but I just wasn’t interested til I moved away from home. Maybe I’m just wired different idk I couldn’t personally imagine wanting to date at 13. My only obsession was sports at that point
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:49 PM
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This is very similar to me. I was busy playing travel baseball and hockey growing up. Never even thought about dating til college.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:21 PM
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Many around here. There’s no winning move when it comes to the redpill. If you stay single you’re mstow loser, if you pair up, they’ll claim she settled and ur beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 06:26 PM
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Then the man will manage to get a gf and you’ll say she settled, not attracted to him, not genuine desire, whatever the flavour of the day is
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 06:13 PM
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Probably a 7 or 8 idk I can pm you if you want
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 06:02 PM
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5’11
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 05:55 PM
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Incorrect. If you do the research while marriage has deceased, cohabitation has increased while children living with single mothers has decreased in the past few decades in the US. Source: https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2018/04/25/the-changing-profile-of-unmarried-parents/ Regardless the claim OP was responding to was hyperbolic nonsense all too common around here. Claiming 100% of children will be born to single mothers is beyond retarded
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 08:14 AM
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This entire sub is either “mah feels” or reacting to rage bait
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 01:29 AM
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Face is more important than everything you listed
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 12:15 AM
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But women do approach. I’ve been approached many times at bars and clubs and I’ve ended up hooking up with some. Women do it all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 07:56 PM
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Most people attempt to secure the most attractive partner(s) they can. Attractiveness is a holistic measure of many variables with both somewhat objective and subjective preferences involved. This is why you see most couples, not all, but most being generally looksmatched aka assortative mating. Looks are very important in all aspects of life not just dating, but if you observe reality it’s obvious you don’t need to be Chad or whatever to get a girl who find you attractive. The mogg is relative
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 04:18 AM
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PPD is full of people claiming women have relationships (fuck) men they aren’t physically attracted to all the time, but now women never do. Which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 04:08 AM
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These guys love doomer fan fiction and get most of their “facts” from reading other comments on echo chambers like ppd not from reality. Appreciate you providing real statistics. Props
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 09:06 PM
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Mess with the girl who likes you not the one you like
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 05:10 PM
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Upper middle class, college educated people will continue to marry and raise intact families like they always have. The lower classes will have more children of wedlock and experience more instability both socially and economically.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 08:31 AM
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You're on ppd. By far one of the most autistic subreddits around.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 03:39 AM
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Creating broken homes. Well done sir
/r/BlackPillScience02/12/24 01:02 AM
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What I’m curious about is what counts as “beta bux”? Is it just making more than her? being married? “Relationship material”? Are all rich men beta bux? It just seems to change depending on who you ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 09:40 PM
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I thought the whole 80/20 rule in the context of dating referred to the OKCupid data that showed women rate 80% of men below average. The whole concept was based off physical attractiveness not other traits
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 10:34 PM
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What are we considering tall for the purpose of this discussion?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 07:50 PM
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Well I know why. It’s because i’m physically attractive. The idea that you need a car, having big goals, or money at all is just false. You’ll find women’s list of demands get thrown out pretty quick if you are hot
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 07:49 PM
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Yes there is. Obviously in extreme cases it’s a huge handicap, but men of average height can and do pull women just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 07:32 PM
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I see what you’re saying, I just can’t relate. With shoes on I definitely hover around 6ft and i think my face is good so maybe i’m just talking out of my ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 07:14 PM
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So 1 in 5 represents the “elite” of men? click on my profile. I don’t have a bunch of the things listed in the parent comment of this thread, yet I get a lot of attention from looks alone. Would you consider me top 20% for my age demographic? honestly, my life experience is making me lean more and more black by the day
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 06:14 PM
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I’m 5’10 and never have had an issue attracting women. I won’t deny it matters, but I feel there’s a lot of hyperbole surrounding heights importance
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 06:08 PM
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Ok my point being you can have half of those things you listed and still easily be top 20% of men especially in the age demographic listed in the OP (defined by women) because women decide who’s top 20% not other men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 04:46 PM
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Money, having a car, and big career goals don’t matter if girls are genuinely attracted to you. A bonus sure, but not a prerequisite imo
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 04:25 PM
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