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For ex: The draft of both men and women was imposed by the left-wing Labor Party in Israel at the very beginning of the state in 1948. The same law exempted Arabs and Haredi. The Labor Party doesn't seem to exist much these days, but the Haredi who riot over being drafted into the military are usually called far-right. South Korea and Taiwan currently have left-wing Presidents, but neither state has drafted women. Neither of these three states could abandon the draft without basically surrenderi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:02 PM
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I'm sorry, but you are not entitled to exhume the corpse of Emmeline Pankhurst and post-facto declare that the leader of the British suffragette movement was not a feminist just because she wasn't a lifelong far-leftist. This is not a tenet of feminism. No True Scotswomyn
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:35 PM
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This is just a field of strawmen. Ain't gonna be the crow See 'ya later, Mr. Hitchcock
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:53 AM
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Victims With Responsibilities: Requiring Male Victims Of Statutory Rape To Pay Child Support With No Escape
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:39 AM
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Tell it to Erdogan and his voters.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:31 AM
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Norway, Sweden and Denmark have notional drafting of both sexes, but the actual service component is limited. Finland has a much longer service tenure, and only drafts males. A Year of Service? Canadians – including young adults – embrace the idea of civilian service for those under 30 - Canada mandatory youth civilian service The data from Canada agrees with you. Survey Report The data from the UK does not agree with you, the gender gap is small, even though most LAB/GRN voters were against. (I…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:29 AM
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White Feather Campaign - Wikipedia
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:11 AM
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The East Slavs dodging the draft are not necessarily anti-war, they may just be against fighting in it themselves, but otherwise quite eager for their unlucky countrymen or third country nationals somehow dragged in.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:09 AM
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"Average in the context of this community means below average" The decile rating scale used to measure attractiveness does not follow a "normal distribution" in most of the examples of women rating men. The median male is typically rated as a 3. If you disregard this concept, even then you can postulate that male viewers/poasters here are below average in attractiveness/sociability. In the context that males here may consider themselves "average", it might be in reference to having a postseconda…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:40 AM
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TwoX is a much larger sub than this one, and presumably very few males are poasting there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:34 AM
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^Salad Bar Feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:25 AM
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This sub is an extreme cross section of even this site, let alone the developed world. It is better if men complain here, and perhaps even in some irl spaces, if otherwise they would turn to interpersonal violence and/or substance abuse. “We must complain. Yes, plain, blunt complaint, ceaseless agitation, unfailing exposure of dishonesty and wrong – this is the ancient, unerring way to liberty and we must follow it.” — W. E. B. Du Bois
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:24 AM
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Your explanation is missing the phrase "beer goggles".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 11:07 PM
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There is a considerable amount of economic divergence between the Balkans and Southern California.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 11:05 PM
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The base of "Game" from "Pick Up Artistry" which is based on the theory of "Neuro Linguistic Programming". Aforesaid theory has questionable-to-negligible evidence backing it. What "game" and NLP are claiming to do is 9/10ths of a "Jedi mind trick". It asserts to be something much more than "basic social skills", the idea that it could even produce a "mind trick" in only a minute number of encounters is what fuels the feminist backlash which claims that PUA is a "How to commit SA instruction man…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 10:51 PM
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Recall that during the run up to Desert Storm, that specific claims of atrocities in Kuwait were alleged of Saddam's Army, that were later disproven. (There were other confirmed atrocities, but a specific incident mentioned in a US congressional committee did not happen). The declaration of war barely passed the US Senate, meaning that this may have been pivotal. Forgotten now, because of the surprisingly low US casualties, but the Kuwaiti Royal Family was unpopular in the US because of its Pro-…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:53 PM
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There are several historic examples of cultures that created celibate religious organizations, or restricted certain economic niches to eunuchs. The post-industrial society may be adapting to a new version of an old system. It is highly unlikely that the state and society will do anything to lower women's standards, it is only marginal that a state/society will try to enforce monogamy on high status men. It is very likely that low status men will be increasingly policed both literally and social…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 08:22 PM
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It's not out of the question that Palantir tech or some other analogue might be used to deny visas if the system finds evidence that one participated in passport bro phora. IIRC a decade or so ago, Roosh was banned from Australia.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 08:00 PM
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Come back when someone makes a joke about Herr Gavin banging his friends wife and dating a woman 20 years younger than him. Or how Frau Kamala got her self that political patronage position from the then-mayor of SF.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 07:57 PM
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If it had gone her way, and she quit abusing substances, she'd be sitting on USD 30 billion. Being the third most powerful person at Koch Industries, which for a time practically owned the US Republican Party.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 03:31 AM
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Once the birth certificate is signed, it is difficult to near impossible to challenge paternity. The law may automatically presume paternity if married. Your issue here is that you don't think paternity fraud is a sizable matter of concern, and even it it was, it pales in comparison to DV/SA. (And that the manosphere brings the topic up to deflect from DV/SA). What many of you imply, but rarely say, is that if a man has paternity doubts, he should either divorce or suppress the insecurity (suck …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 03:15 AM
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Anna Nicole Smith
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 03:03 AM
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Pascal's wager - Wikipedia Think of it as a philosophical chart like Pascal. The state mandating the tests is the only method that solves the problem of paternity fraud, and the threat of retaliatory divorce from a false negative suspicion. Otherwise, as we see in this thread, if there was fraud or not, the outcome is still divorce if there is a test. Reaching an unjust outcome where fraud is occasionally enabled as the only outcome where there is no guaranteed divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 02:47 AM
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Polygraphs are not admissible in courts of law. Polygraphs are required to receive and maintain a security clearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 02:03 AM
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They want this woman to trust him enough to be willing to ruin her body, bear his child, and raise it for two decades… but they don’t trust her in the least. They do not trust her enough to have a measly conversation— they think she will go completely apeshit. There are legion of female-identified poasters in this thread indicating they would go apeshit. And most likely, the reason they cannot imagine trusting any woman enough to even talk to her honestly is because they themselves are deeply un…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:56 AM
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Consider that a woman who successfully pulls off a paternity fraud can receive quite substantial rewards.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:52 AM
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Most women here do not view it as unjust if a man is tricked into raising a child that is not biologically his. It rationally follows from their constructivist position, that it is women that socially construct the role of father.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:48 AM
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Removing a signature from a birth certificate is extremely difficult, and if both parties are married perhaps impossible. The solution is for the state to mandate prenatal testing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:42 AM
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Did you blame the victim? Yes you did
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:40 AM
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But they can't tho
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:23 AM
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Degen
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:21 AM
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One election away from that being illegal to poast.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:17 AM
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This one always strikes a chord, partly because the unspoken premise is that these men should only be pursuing those within their age band. Which often happens to be the single mothers that the manosphere is highly against being involved with. I don't agree much with the idea that women are "complaining about competition", since they often claim that these men were "rejected by women their own age". But from the typical male POV, "the purpose of the system is what it does". In my conclusion, bot…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:13 AM
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If Red Pill was merely useless, then at best it might produce a "placebo effect" or elsewise be regarded as "snake oil". If Red Pill is actually harmful, then the spreading of its concepts might lead to "male loneliness". If Red Pill might in some cases work, some might regard it as teaching "gaslighting, lovebombing, etc", it might even be regarded as a "How to commit SA guide"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 12:23 AM
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Compare the opposite: Is disagreeableness a positive trait? Is it worth being with a "bad bitch" considering the "bitch" aspect? Do some men benefit from a domineering spouse?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 12:19 AM
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Not so much OP is male, so its a broke person saying "mo money, mo problems"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 12:15 AM
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In a world of thirsty men, be a cactus
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 10:24 PM
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Somewhat, I do not observe here that many female poasters are all that concerned with the public fisc. This site leans heavily to the "left" and devotes 1000x the energy to "tax the rich" versus any complaints about what the USSR called "social parasitism". From what I see they do invest energy in claiming that men should gladly pay for expensive dates, and that men should be spending more money on fashion. I don't see this discussed in this subplebbit that much, but there is a sense among many …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 05:58 AM
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Q: Why? A: Ick
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 05:41 AM
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But they aren't faking their status here. They are literally just having sex with AI dolls. They know they're losers - who cares? Sexbot discourse is not new, recall that it was a major plot point of Blade Runner. As long as the complaints of unfulfilled sexbot demands are made on social media, and some women view them and get the ick, they will be angry. It's the same about how nerds would just watch anime and play video games in their own little cliques. It wasn't enough just to let them do th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 05:32 AM
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Why is that a problem? Below average male X, (BamX) a theoretical individual sees it as a problem. You deny the claims of BamX. They can simply get friends Is Coca-Cola a perfect substitute good for Pepsi? Is Sprite? Is tap water? Is muddy water? they can buy escrots and fk them Perhaps BamX agrees with your stance, then yes. But consider that BamX might see this as a degrading act.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 05:20 AM
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They can't, its the longhouse mentality. Unsupervised groups of young men will always be seen as inherently dangerous. They don't like anything that suggests that men are cheating their way around the grind or faking the status of a "natural". A man can only go his own way as a lone individual, that does not even talk about it. No one can be around to hear the tree fall in the forest, and even if they were they must pretend they didn't hear the sound.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 05:16 AM
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They don't complain about this attention for nothing. Some women even become shocked after reaching a certain age when the attention disappears, though most ime actually prefer this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 03:57 AM
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You act as though there is a difference in the moral plane from being a redpill streamer, versus being a writer/director/actor on Sex and the City. The former is somehow an irredeemable grifter, while the latter is apparently a laudable artist. No, I do not accept this logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 03:22 AM
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Don't Bet Against a Sporting Girl - True West Magazine This was the best sourced I could find about actual price levels. 50 cents in the 1880s was a coin with about 12.5g. Which translates to $24 of 2026 greenbacks. $10 in 1880 was a gold coin worth about $2.1K in greenbacks. 20 of those half dollars would mean $500 in todays greenbacks. Bimetallism had some drawbacks. The Tombstone claim also notes a Rule 5 price hierarchy. Professionals were often the only women present in these otherwise remo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 12:28 AM
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Technology can only paper over biology to a certain extent. Groups of young men are going to be viewed as threatening in ways that will not be applied to every other group. From this UK poll, most of the Boomers want the draft back (as the UK was not involved in Vietnam as Australia was, the draft was eliminated in '63 there and never applied to Boomers). Are Britons willing to rebuild UK national power? And the draft polled higher than higher taxes or reduced spending. In the crosstabs, the dra…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 11:44 PM
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Women are Wonderful News at 10
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 11:16 PM
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Brothels were commonplace in the 19th century US/UK, inferring a much higher rate of johns than in the present day. Even with readily available air travel, many are still surprised to see the amount of legal brothels in places like the Netherlands and Germany.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 11:06 PM
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"Average in the context of this community means below average" Wrt to below average men, quite a lot of them do spend their lives permanently single.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 10:57 PM
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Imagine if men (particularly the below average men) displayed as much interest in women as the average women displayed towards them. Reciprocity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 10:56 PM
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but most men and women end up eventually with someone. This is the classic Just World fallacy. It also is backwards looking. The trend of "never married" goes up with each cohort in the developed world.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 10:55 PM
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Some men consider that to be preferable to being alone. Many societies are also suspicions of single men as a class.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 10:53 PM
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Men according to the table work on average 4 hours a week more than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:56 PM
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They will rationalize this by claiming to spend a near equivalent amount of money on cosmetics/fashion/etc. Beyond that, there is an unwritten expectation where men should cut out some other expenditures and spend it on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 02:30 PM
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People at work by occupation, sex, and usual full‐ or part‐time status : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 02:26 PM
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One strike, you're out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 03:04 AM
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The minute any of this was even a flicker of danger to the system, it would quickly be suppressed. The actual radicalization is coming from women, who have a "womanosphere" populated by things like CallHerDaddy and Greta. As recently as the 1990s, there would have been calls from mainstream politicians to censor the former as "obscenity" and suppress the latter as a terrorist as the French government did to Greenpeace.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 05:52 AM
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And his supporters thought it was a kangaroo court in a jurisdiction where the jury pool was over 90% opposed to him in the previous election.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 05:47 AM
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Banning dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 05:38 AM
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It was successful because it had the support of elites like the Rockefeller and Ford Foundations. The most radical were the type that wanted to expropriate the wealth of those elites. Think of people like the Weather Underground, who later were rehabilitated into bourgeois academia. A male oriented movement has not followed a similar path in the 2020s so far. Manosphere are mostly streamers selling courses and other associated snake oil. Some are now convicted criminals. Musk might have given th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 05:34 AM
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You can always get an AI girlfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:08 AM
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"If she wanted to, she would"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:07 AM
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Telling a sizeable number of males that they are hopelessly unattractive, and nothing can be done to change that, tends to lead to despair. In Japan, it was called "hikkikomori", in China "Tang ping", in the YooKay "NEET". Would that lead to revolutionary violence, increased crime, drugs and other degeneracy? Perhaps, and that is an unjust world. Thus the Blue Pill is Plato's Noble Lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 04:38 AM
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these men are crying over sex and sex is not a need. Filing this for whenever anyone brings up the "orgasm gap".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 04:33 AM
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Women account for a disproportionate share of household spending, and thus advertiser targeting. Site ownership depends on advertisements for the bulk of its revenue. Therefore it must make its content "advertiser friendly". Unlike many large internet sites, this site has a predominantly male (and bot) userbase.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 04:29 AM
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Never complain, never explain
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 04:25 AM
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Sauce? It's in the aisle with the ketchup.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 04:16 AM
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"Read the room" They want you to shut up and be quiet.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 04:00 AM
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The most effective argument is the one made by another woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 04:07 AM
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A few weeks pretending to be a man on a dating app would probably fix your mindset. Nah, as you'd pretend it wasn't representative or something... you'd need to actually be a man trying to date women irl for awhile. This never works, they just circle back to safety concerns that override any other male drawbacks. Very few women poasters here want to sympathize with male concerns, since they view most of the complainers as entitled [redacteds] that don't care about women's safety. You can't convi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 03:57 AM
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Large groups of unmarried men are going to be viewed with suspicion across many cultures. Even if they only congregate in the interwebz. There will be those that categorically oppose men condemning women as a class, as tantamount to a "true threat" of violence. The banned acronym lost its subplebbit because a lone individual was caught in a terror plot and had apparently posted there a few times. Because of biological size disparities, groups of unmarried women are not viewed as anywhere near th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 03:08 AM
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"Why don't you just sit down and be quiet". Schoolmarm for adults
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 02:59 AM
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Much of the feminist movements have been long supported by the Rockefeller Foundation, the Ford Foundation, and the Open Society Foundation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 11:40 PM
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"The Personal is Political" - some feminist said that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 11:22 PM
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In fact, the patriarchy loves a man stuck in a world where they need to express their emotions but cannot. Does it occur to you that otherwise feminist women might decide to shame men for displaying emotions they don't like? I argue that we see it quite a lot even on this very forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 11:21 PM
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What would be needed to convince you that some men are getting a raw deal from women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 10:53 PM
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They can choose to be single. And they should.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 10:51 PM
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-There are a large number of desperate single men. -A woman being broke, BPD, a single mother, etc; are what we might call "red flags". -Some men are desperate enough to overlook that. -Manosphere constantly reminds men of this to deter them from acting on their desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 10:45 PM
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Some men can do the same, but can "most men", or further can "most of the men poasting and lurking in the manosphere" do the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 10:39 PM
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She does not want to acknowledge men as a victim status. Men can be victims of "capitalist dating apps", but they cannot be the victim of women's (irrational) preferences. This dispute is irreconcilable. But she's not defending the apps per se, though her position would be stronger if she explicitly told men to not use them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 10:36 PM
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Female peer advice tends to be about not being a "pick-me", or otherwise shunning women that choose men that are otherwise of lower status.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 10:30 PM
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Inevitable outcome of a society where divorce is quite common.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 10:22 PM
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No shortage of males with no options or bad options. They need constant negative reinforcement to stop them from quenching their thirst from a dirty pond.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 10:22 PM
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Eugenics, but make it woke
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 01:45 PM
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Men don't have equal options. Some have more, some have less, some have none. Do the men that inhabit pill spaces seem to be rather desperate or not? Perhaps for some men they really should just marry the first woman that says yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 09:07 PM
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"Just be yourself"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 08:59 PM
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This essentially relies on overriding a biological imperative. So it has some difficulty, similar to overeating.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 08:54 PM
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I do not recall ever endorsing "passport bros", I have expressed skepticism, if you wanted to troll through my poasting history.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 02:57 AM
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Guilt by association does work, however. You will be judged by the company you keep.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 01:22 AM
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The female hivemind could choose to lower their standards, I guess. Good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 01:13 AM
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Relying on OLD in the 21st century is a slightly diminished equivalent of farmers relying on a railroad monopoly in the 19th century to ship their grain. IRL cold approach is the counterpart to shipping grain by a horse drawn cart.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 03:10 AM
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Feelings hurt, plz moar censorship
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 03:07 AM
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The whole group of dudes who can't get a date, can't get one for a variety of reasons. Most of which are caused by their own actions. It continues to amaze me that avowed leftists will repeat such a bootstraps way of thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 03:07 AM
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You’re basically saying “you would be just as bad if you had the chance,” which you can’t prove. It’s an easy way to dismiss the point without actually dealing with it. Not necessarily, there's a reason why women hate men using pr0n; while men don't take as much an issue as they should with women reading 50 Shades and the like.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 03:06 AM
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What they want is for the rejected men to shut up and "know their place". And if they don't, then they want moderators to shut them up, and when that doesn't work they want MI5 shutting them up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 03:02 AM
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TRP and its PUA predecessor has elements of snake oil MLM. Black pill is a realization of that. Would some of them have been better off to have stayed blue pill and been cringe femboys?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 01:44 AM
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Bruh, just tell men to go their own way
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:19 PM
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Yes it will. Women don't complain about "lovebombing" and "wokefishing" just for the entertainment value
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 10:57 PM
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That's just changing the direction of the threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 10:53 PM
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I hate to tie everything to the Orange Man, but his presence has made feminists accommodating of otherwise prudish women that never accepted the "Slut Walk" era of feminism before he rode down the escalator.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 10:52 PM
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Academics in basically any Western country are almost monolithically left wing. I don't think it matters much wrt a "hard science" like chemistry, but it does matter in a social science like psychology. Inevitably a shrink is going to see their patients as "morally irredeemable" if they can't be prodded into feminist thinking. Women are also an overwhelming majority of those in graduate school to become a shrink, and many men perhaps find this unnerving as a provider. The salary is typically abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 10:47 PM
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But men are being forced to be better partners by women ok it's in turn making them demand better women But this is irrational and smacks of entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 10:38 PM
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Reddit - https://i.redd.it/bprnv161v8vc1.jpeg Do they? Or is this a backwards looking perception?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 10:37 PM
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You can enjoy that, but it's not for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 10:33 PM
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Men are not obligated to accept female promiscuity. No more than women are obliged to respect male patronization of professionals.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 10:30 PM
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Here lies the ruins of liberal individualism.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 10:28 PM
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Any "men's interest group" no matter how moderate has a likelihood of being slandered as "extremist" by the now indicted $PLC and the ADL, or whatever the comparable organization is called in non-US countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 10:24 PM
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The academia that trains it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 10:17 PM
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They shouldn’t have to pay for it, they shouldn’t have to work for it, they shouldn’t have to earn it in any way. Does this apply to both genders?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 10:08 PM
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Imo, many women want low status men to "know their place", but they lack the hierarchical vocabulary to describe this, due to feminism being an ostensibly "egalitarian" movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 10:06 PM
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Longhouse mentality
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 10:04 PM
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Many of them believe that men are "taught to rape by 'rape culture' ", and that this is an ordinary experience for the median male. Rather than being the act of a psychopathic minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 10:01 PM
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That's a guilt/threat manipulation tactic, yes. Would you feel better if the video was instead directed at high status men to stop sleeping around?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 10:00 PM
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offering actionable solutions that don't threat women's consent or integrity There could be a problem: there might not be any actionable solutions that don't threaten women's autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 09:54 PM
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Biggie clips 👑 (@biggerboy111): "Clavicular reads text from Brett Cooper🥀💔. Isn't she married" | nitter Looks even worse now. Give it some time and someone will blame her husband for not doing enough emotional/domestic labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 12:34 AM
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The slur that affects men is not one that claims they are promiscuous, but one that claims they are celibate not by choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 12:25 AM
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The ideas only work for some men. Some men (black pill) are utterly hopeless in any society even one that enforce monogamy under penalty of law. Some men would benefit from never knowing of the red pill's existence to shake them out of blue pilled conditioning, it is they who are probably the angriest. Blue pilled advice does work, though it often is inefficient. It requires "reading between the lines" and lowering your standards and engaging in "oneitis" for lack of a better term. For a variety…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 12:15 AM
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Baby Boomers, sure
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 12:03 AM
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"Rake" "Womanizer"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 11:46 PM
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Other males can and do respond with physical violence. Males tend to be more individualistic, so shaming does not affect them to the same degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 10:18 PM
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Ask yourself what they typically get a greater ick for: Running through lots of women Using the services of the oldest profession Being bisexual
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 10:11 PM
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It is not reasonable if the man in question has no or limited options. He's a price taker in the marketplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 10:10 PM
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This thread is compelling evidence for the "spiteful mutant" hypothesis
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:16 AM
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You just want them to uncritically accept their shit sandwich rather than call out the perpetrators of manipulation Society in a sense needs this. It needs men that will either date a fat woman and help her lose weight, or else put up with it. It needs men who will step up and be a step dad that may receive nothing but resentment and bills in return. And women by and large do not like this being pointed out. They consider it "misogyny and dehumanization" for men to complain on their bad options.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:59 AM
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Did you blame the victim? Yes you did
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:56 AM
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insult to be husband material It's a euphemism for "being settled for"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:50 AM
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They are going to war right now in Ukraine, you go first then, tovarisch
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:48 AM
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80/20 40/60
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 04:18 PM
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I don't know these people on a personal level, but from what I have seen it looks as though she disrespected her husband. The Clavicular character has lusted after her on livestreams, and insulted her husband. She decides to fangirl over Herr Clavicular, its a bad look, and amplifies male insecurities in the trad-adjacent sphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 04:15 PM
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Men tend to get shamed for insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 04:12 PM
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Clavicular is said to be a drug abuser that engages in some type of self mutilation. If that's what the youth call "conventionally attractive", we're cooked.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 04:11 PM
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TIL that you extrapolated
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 03:55 PM
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"Are We Dating the Same Guy"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 03:54 PM
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You are allowed to have them as long as they are never publicly expressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 03:52 PM
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There aren’t that many 6 feet plus men to go around Are We Dating the Same Guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 01:23 PM
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Beria ran his own "Epstein Island" during the Stalin era.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 04:52 AM
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Where is their self esteem going to come from? Upvoots on Plebbit /s
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 02:57 AM
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Pregnancy is not, and cannot ever be equal If there really are "millions of of sexless men" why should they care?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 12:52 AM
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Why do you hate democracy?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 12:47 AM
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Dobbs, which overturned Roe, or more accurately Casey (1992); resulted in the return of abortion law to the US state level. It did nothing to affect the laws in other countries, the second Trump Administration has not used tariffs to compel abortion restrictions abroad, nor has it tried to start colour revolutions against countries where abortion is legal. Feminists said they wanted reproductive equality What they want is for men to have no ability to influence the decision. They don't believe i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 12:30 AM
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You might have options, the poaster you responded to probably does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 12:08 AM
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Men did not invent the term "pick-me" and make it mainstream. Women applied it to other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 12:07 AM
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Self-respect is honorable
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 11:48 PM
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Women expect men who "Just get it", theory and acronyms are a signal that he is "not a natural"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 09:47 PM
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The US Democratic Party self-identifies as "progressive". Self-identified "conservatives" in the US tend to overwhelmingly identify with the Republican Party. Like it or not, conservatives are entitled to Self Determination, not this strange gatekeeping.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 09:45 PM
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It's easier to just tell them to go their own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 09:42 PM
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The unspoken part is that at some point it becomes a demand for cosmetic surgery, which I do not endorse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 09:20 PM
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The OP didn't bother to condemn his closest co-conspirator, Ghislane Maxwell. A discussion of Epstein that does not even mention Maxwell is fundamentally flawed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 03:47 AM
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Your argument is some ad hominem on a blogger. I can't speak for that person. I have no personal experience with the Dark Triad as a strategy, I suggest speaking to those that claim to utilize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 03:43 AM
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In the before-time of Neil Strauss and Mystery, it could be described as a niche community. In the present day where international crime boss Andrew Tate has widespread audience, it should be considered that "red pill" ideas are mainstream with the young males of today.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 03:41 AM
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If women aren't choosing you in today's world. They wouldn't have chosen you 30 years ago, 50 years ago, or 100 years ago. Because men back then had to offer even more than today's men. This is naked revisionism. It is also an example of doublethink.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 03:39 AM
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Dark triad - Wikipedia
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 03:37 AM
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There is not a "Blue Pill sidebar", but the Mark Manson books are a rough equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 03:33 AM
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You can, but I question whether you should. I think loyalty is important, and that should extend to groups. Further than that, I don't think that age gaps and passport bro are practical options for most men in the target market, and the latter group seems to be a euphemism for hiring professional services. There's also a saying "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned". I care about the continuity of my culture, and I don't want to scorn women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 03:30 AM
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They'd be better off unironically reading Nietzsche.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 11:12 PM
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The passport bro fails to consider that the women they meet elsewhere that are interested in them are the most Westernized and feminist women from their culture. And they prefer First World men not just because of wealth or fetishism, but because Western men are more feminist. Feminism, in all its variants, is a hallmark of Western culture. Writers from antiquity to the Renaissance to early modernity called its absence a form of "Oriental Despotism"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 10:25 PM
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Reasons women don't like that: It gives them the ick Don't give them the ick
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 09:54 PM
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Large age gaps correlate with higher incidence of infidelity and divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 09:52 PM
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Older men are in denial of their own baggage, more often than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 09:51 PM
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Perhaps it is a lack of solidarity. Older men are "betraying" the women of their own generational cohort, and making it worse for younger men; when they are pursuing large age gap relationships. Firs World Men pursuing women in a Third World country are not loyal to the women of their own culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 09:44 PM
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The reasons pedophiles are attracted The reasons don't matter, they just belong in prison
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 09:18 PM
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Rule 5 prohibits a response.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 09:02 PM
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I do not give instruction to women as a class, because I am a man. I expect that anything I say will be automatically ignored because of that. When I speak to women, I speak through them, I do not expect to change their minds, but I do hope to influence male lurkers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 03:17 AM
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Then all the dudes on this sub that claim to support bi men better start sucking some dick. That is not I, but you are consistent here. Men, as well as women, lack the courage of their convictions to carry the Sexual Revolution to its conclusion. They prefer to hide in their unprincipled exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 03:00 AM
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There are three lenses to view "simping" with. The first is "simping for e-girls" where men are throwing money/attention at camgirls, streamers, instagram models. Lots of ordinary women have dreams of becoming an influencer and don't block the thirsty simps commenting because it boosts their algorithm odds. The second is being what earlier times called being a "beta orbiter", where a man intentionally thinks that he can "earn his way out of the friendzone", and women pretend not to notice this. …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 12:14 AM
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Afiak, if the prosecution doesn't "cross the t and dot the i" by vetting the accusation, then it would get revealed in discovery. Charges might get dismissed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 11:30 PM
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Nor is it an attack BY her. It could be. If it was a "nuclear rejection" that was poasted for social media clout, if she gossiped to peers etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 11:03 PM
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how likely is it to get to trial if the victim is treated like a liar during the evidence gathering phase of investigation The prosecution has to turnover anything favorable to the defense as "discovery"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 11:02 PM
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I have no idea who that is, but I'm assuming he's some sort of Evangelist preacher? Saying "you shouldn't do this because it's bad and people who do are sinners beyond redemption" then clearly that's hypocritical. Far worse than some preacher, he was an "influencer". I would also characterize his views as more "I can be a degenerate, but the plebs can't because Jews". It's a different kind of evil. Allegedly he gave his wife STDs, and was having an affair with another influencer that claimed to …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 10:55 PM
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Even the softest rejection will still cause damage to the ego. It may not be an "attack" but it still is "damage". The damage came from somewhere, even if it came from inside.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 10:44 PM
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I think there is a blindspot where feminists don't shame "simp culture" because they enjoy it as "benevolent sexism", even where earlier waves of feminism would have disagreed. On a more morbid note, I suspect that many women actively encourage simp culture because it degrades the status of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 10:40 PM
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"Trad values" cannot exist unless they are imposed. A contract that is unenforceable is meaningless. Even intentionally isolated sects like the Amish and Haredi are under the rule of modernity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 10:34 PM
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It is not hypocrisy to support societal equality and want someone traditional for your private, intimate life. I don't agree. Your approach is a "one way street". If someone like Elijah Schaefer was advocating for "trad values" in public, but was secretly an adulterer, drug user and bisexual, he would be near unanimously condemned as a hypocrite. So I insist on a "two way street". I don't think that one is allowed to raise an "unprincipled exception" based on personal preference to escape the ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 10:23 PM
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It is not hypocrisy to support societal equality and want someone traditional for your private, intimate life. Here lies the remains of "The Personal is Political"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 10:12 PM
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It is "preferences" for women, "prejudices" for men. Without this, the so-called "progressive stack" would collapse upon itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 10:09 PM
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It is unlikely that supporters of Bernie Sanders were found outside of the United States of America. Other countries also call it "uni", which is not a feature of American colloquial English. Commonwealth English calls college as the equivalent of US "High School".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 10:05 PM
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"Simp culture" is also a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 10:02 PM
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I feel personally attacked Well, they do. Rejection is personal. It's inevitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 10:01 PM
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Yet, there's no equally derogatory term used to mainly describe men who get into relationship with women for purely their youth and physical attractiveness "Cradle robber" Such men are also called "groomer" and "paedo" even when it is two adults, and occasionally even when the woman is above the age of 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 09:59 PM
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i've literally learned the term "landwhale" from this sub and from men in it. That slur can be gender-neutral, though it usually is female-coded.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 09:57 PM
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and who is ready to treat any rape victim like liar under investigation We have a justice system to ascertain guilt. The system cannot give carte blanche to any accuser. Due process in the US legal system protects the right to confront the state's witnesses against you at trial. should get to speak lot of rapey trash with their friends and never get shunned for it The legal system has a mechanism for punishing "true threats", what you call "trash" is a matter of opinion, I caution you to conside…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 09:53 PM
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Cold approach is a historical aberration. There is also "warm approach". And failing that, societies have established "matchmakers", despite this having disappeared from Western society for centuries.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 04:45 AM
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You cold approach a woman solely because you find her attractive On a personal level, I do not. It is possible that some PUA are told to approach some women they are not interested in, for "practice". but suddenly it's unacceptable when a woman applies the same physical standards on you. Eggs expensive, sperm cheap. We complain about the weather, why not complain about biology?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 04:36 AM
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To summarize: Rule 1 and 2 Follow those rules, and you can determine whether an approach will be received with hostility. Most of those lurking and poasting will violate the above rules, therefore they should never approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 04:25 AM
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Possibly With enough time, we could find individuals that poasted on some social media that men approaching was "street harassment" and then some time later complain that no attractive men were approaching them. And that's before we get into Rule 5 violations of why women complain about cold approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 04:22 AM
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He don't miss
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 12:48 AM
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Brutal
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 12:36 AM
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crunk aint dead
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 08:58 PM
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I suspect that the real purpose of camgirl sites is money laundering. I doubt that there are really enough customers to keep it going otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:08 AM
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Nothing illustrates more that the "Labor Theory of Value" is a myth
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 02:57 AM
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We live in a society
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:35 PM
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Something about making rules for betas, and breaking them for alphas.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:26 AM
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That's fair But consider: are men genuinely paying for expensive dinner dates, being a jester, agonizing about emotional labor, doing most of the chores, or even paying to raise another man's child...because they want to? Or are they doing it because they have no other options?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:26 AM
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If a woman goes on the tradcon redemption route, she will claim some form of victimhood. The john, by contrast, cannot claim to be a victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:09 AM
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She has options, you don't. /thread
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:08 AM
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Was he wrong? No he was not
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:54 AM
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The number of johns is likely larger than the number of hooors.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:51 AM
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For women, they resent being liked only for their body. For many men, they resent that their body is not liked, and they are only used for resources, domestic/emotional labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:50 AM
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If that isn't a sign to go your own way, idk what is
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:33 AM
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It's from the age old okc study, which is rather difficult to find these days, but is a well known part of the lore. Tinder Experiments II: Guys, unless you are really hot you are probably better off not wasting your time on Tinder — a quantitative socio-economic study | by worst-online-dater | Medium
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 11:29 PM
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^Degen
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 11:13 PM
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No thanks, I'm a volcel
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 11:13 PM
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you’d be surprised how much more women will respect you when you’re honest lol 9/10 cases "He belongs to the streets"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 11:05 PM
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The average female rates the average male as a 3. That means they rate around 40% of men as 1-2 (presumably 0 was not an option, though if it was...). Males rate the median female as a 5, and presumably rate the median male as a 5. Both males and females are overrating themselves. That is why I say "average males in the context of this community means below average". This also explains why so many women are rageful. They think the typical Plebbit poaster is a 1 or 2 acting entitled to a harem of…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 11:03 PM
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There are 450 NBA players on active rosters at any one time. Then we can add the scrubs in the D league, NBA coaching staff, and some NCAA men's roundballers. The average NBA player might be stereotypically quite thirsty, but they aren't a truly deranged outlier like Wilt Chamberlain allegedly was. To go further, there are 1,696 players on NFL active rosters, 750 on MLB rosters, and 736 in the NHL. So there's a few thousand pro athletes at any one time. If a pro athelete was doom swiping on Tind…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 10:59 PM
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"There's a [simp] born every minute"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 10:47 PM
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You are not entitled to "Be a Degen" free pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 10:40 PM
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For the women poasting, this thread is "negative emotional labor" for them. That low status men complain about anything, and criticize women as a class should not be permitted. Subconsciously, it triggers as a threat of violence, despite being behind a digital wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 11:34 AM
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This smacks of a false equivalency. It also looks like throwing whatever topic at the wall and seeing if it sticks. I doubt the existence of a causal relationship between the consumption of adult pr0n, and the illegal grooming of minors. One can be against both.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 11:26 PM
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The recent legislative efforts in the US/UK/EU have focused on putting age gates onto the sites, not banning it entirely. I have no idea if SAG-AFTRA in the US wants to unionize the productions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 11:18 PM
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AI has replaced the human chat boiler rooms, it will eventually replace the "content creator" as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:10 PM
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It would help if you answered my original question of "Should they [low status men] be grateful instead" I responded to one saying that those men were angry and bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:49 AM
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Idk. Statistically speaking, the dating app userbase is overwhelmingly male. And many female profiles are said to be OF sellers, professionals, traps, scammers. etc. That accounted for, the ragepoast was expressing an inequality where average men where only matching with fat women. I don't know the obesity rates in the Subcontinent, but I assume they are lower than the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:33 AM
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I'm unbothered if harsh language is used in the service of getting men to delete dating apps. The Internet is not a hugbox. Dating apps are exploitation for most of the male consumers. At least freemium games produce some endorphins.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:23 AM
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That's a ragepoaster from the Subcontinent. Don't fall for his bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:12 AM
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When it's a handful of dispossessed men in every town, it's unlikely that you're going to forge any kind of group identity. In the pre-Web era, there were large numbers of groups of all kinds of interests (some many times more odious than anything today) which operated off of mailing lists. The wave of deindustrialization during the 1990s is one of the primary causes of the present disengagement today. In countries still industrializing, the phenomenon does not seem to exist yet. though I though…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:59 AM
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Then by that logic, the African Americans who were freed some slavery should’ve shown sympathy to their owners who became slaveless and lost their workers/properties. Their gain was the slave owner’s loss. This is a tired allegory. A more accurate allegory would state that freedmen should have shown sympathy to Union Army veterans and their descendants. My point was that women achieved "autonomy" through government policy and structural changes in the economy. As women tend to live longer lifesp…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:51 AM
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*Other than being able to find each other on the internet. This is an excuse used to promote the idea that censorship can make the problem go away. Male disengagement has root causes like deindustrialization, smartphones, dating apps, etc. "Equal Rights for women" is not really one of the causes, or else we'd have observed this starting in the 1960s, rather than in the 2000s and accelerating in the 2010s.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:41 AM
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This is a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:33 AM
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Yes, their loss was your gain. You have rights, freedom and autonomy because of the Industrial Revolution. You have them because male politicians, and the overwhelmingly male security forces enforce them. Largely speaking, low status men are unpartnered not because of moral failings, but because of genetic and socioeconomic factors which the individual has marginal power over. The "bare minimum" has consistently increased, and correspondingly fewer men are able to reach it. It is best for the pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:30 AM
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Should they be grateful instead? Perhaps you could show some sympathy to these men, most of whom are not criminals.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:12 AM
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this is not a democracy, its a cheerocracy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 10:51 PM
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Margaret Thatcher was Prime Minister of the UK, the GOP nominated Sarah Palin in 2008 on its ticket. You probably don't have a favorable opinion of those two.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 10:50 PM
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This is the apex fallacy on display. There are legion of lower status blue collar jobs, some quite well paying, that women aren't all that interested in doing, and may be impossible until the development of powered exoskeleton technology. Color me doubtful that any of us here are close to sniffing any more power than some middle management position.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 10:35 PM
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Regular poasters here number a few hundred to thousand, and there's about 100k subscribers. Mainstream subplebbits are still chock full of "Women are Wonderful" and "Just World". Much of what is poasted here would get nuked in the mainstream subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 10:28 PM
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That 9% gap may get better as immigration slows down, but it will not drop to zero. Mass immigration is driven by self-interested billionaires and the animus of ethnic lobbies, but it is fueled by the voting bloc of young women, who repeatedly vote for the parties most in favor of mass immigration.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 10:26 PM
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It is worth asking why no one romanticizes the present. Or why no one wants to romanticize the "modern feminist husband". I would suggest because most recognize it as a shit deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 10:23 PM
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This is one of the best takes made on here in quite some time. If Blue Pill would start leaning into this line of thinking, and away from the Just World fallacy, their position would be much stronger.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 10:16 PM
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Just turn off your brain and natural desires because society decided to cater to women and Chad! unironically yes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 02:15 PM
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The highest earners tend to be middle aged married men. Small portions of the tax base pay disproportionate shares of taxation in most developed countries. Why would they comply with such an arrangement? Well, the Ayatollah just had large numbers of his own people killed a few weeks ago. And he runs a bankrupt state beset by sanctions. Now imagine what a wealthy and disciplined state could do if the gloves were taken off. Much easier to just enjoy your vidya.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 05:11 AM
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What would satisfy most women poasters here, and at large? Probably if men just never complained. Even if lower status men blamed their dating struggles on "capitalism" and never on feminism, I have a hunch that it would still alienate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 05:06 AM
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If lower status men voluntarily accepted their diminished status, then yes, we would not have anywhere near the level of societal tension. I tend to agree. If they stopped using dating apps, stopped giving women social media validation, stopped using professionals....then even if they replaced this energy into something as mediocre as vidya would be an improvement. In a world of thirsty men, be a cactus
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 04:50 AM
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This is plebbit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 04:19 AM
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Stop trying to present sex as a fucking quid pro quo if you don't want to be considered transactional, and stop trying to act like it needs to be bargained for or on a set schedule. It is rather odd to hear this, when often one hears that men aren't contributing enough domestic labor (which you can quantify), and emotional labor (which is non-quantifiable)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 01:03 AM
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It should be very obvious by now that there is a subset of women that is severely enraged about their spouse gaming. It goes beyond general female disdain for some male-coded hobbies, it strikes them as deliberately unproductive versus even being a literal LARPer. Historically, as a number of country music songs can suggest, women can get rather itchy about men engaging in recreational fishing (even if they don't poast the pictures), but fishing has the benefit of producing fish for consumption.…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 09:33 PM
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Women show a repeated revealed preference for a stronger in group bias. The OP makes it clear that they want men to never complain because she calls them privileged. And men aren't going to defend lower status men out of gender solidarity. Defending m'lady's honor on the Internet won't get her thirsting in your DM's (if it did, ick), but engaging in meatspace violence against lower status men under color of law does result in increased female attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 09:23 PM
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Did you blame the victim? Yes you did
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 08:47 PM
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Welcome to Our New Age—the Victorian Feminist Era The short version of it is that during the "MeToo" phenomenon, some Boomer era conservatives called it and the "YesMeansYes" as being "Neo Victorian Prudery". So I ironically took up the moniker.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:39 AM
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You'll have better odds becoming a religious freak, than to get feminists to agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:30 AM
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The so-called "bare-minimum" increases in an analogous way to a "price floor" commonly used for agricultural commodities.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:23 AM
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Bc I actually feel like misandry isn’t real Bait?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:07 AM
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<Plankton> I went to college!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:06 AM
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With rising inflation, it will soon be 6/7/6
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 12:40 AM
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Sample size of 1
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 12:14 AM
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I agree with that, but when many people hear that they think you are justifying atrocities. It is not an argument I use for that reason. Indeed, it is correct to note that low-status young men in the developed world have a mediocre position that is probably getting worse. But at the same time, there are a legion of men from the Third World that would kill to be in their position. And the capitalist elites and their leftist street lackeys know this. There is also the issue that young men complain…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 11:57 PM
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Women don't need to trade paper abortion in exchange for the legality of surgical abortion. Almost all the post-2022 votes in the US came down in favor of abortion. Anti-abortion advocates are not going to try to flip pro-choice men by offering to trade them paper abortion, the idea itself would come across as deranged to the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 11:50 PM
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Young men have to learn to eat bitterness.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 11:45 PM
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You can sign away rights, you cannot sign away duties. Child support is a duty.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 11:20 PM
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Capitalism for thee, socialism for me. Pro-life for thee, pro-choice for me. Women are wonderful effect in motion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 11:19 PM
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Think of a square chart. "Alpha" and "Beta" on one axis, "Bucks" and "Fucks" on the other axis. Alpha bucks is the most desired, but also rare. Less thought of is "Beta Fucks" which involves "pumping and dumping" with the illusion of a relationship (typically with single mothers of a certain age).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:26 AM
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I used to think my life was a tragedy, now I realized its a comedy. -Joker (2019) A film so successful that they had to destroy it with sequel.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:17 AM
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L.A. Confidential (1997) film
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:09 AM
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Life is shit and nobody here has special problems The kindler, gentler, emphatic Blue Pill
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:07 AM
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"You cannot negotiate genuine desire" Rollo Tomassi
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:01 AM
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Said relationship could be a deadbedroom, could have you paying to raise another man's children, and could end in a ruinously expensive divorce. Men often don't have options, and some of them only have bad options like the above. TL;DR AF/BB
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:01 AM
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A thin margin of votes in the US 2024 election was all the difference for preventing the censorship to the rest of the Internet. Woe to those living in the alternate "Dark Woke" timeline, which will re-emerge with a vengeance should the gentleman from California ascend to the Oval.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:48 AM
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In practice I suspect that many women who demand 50/50 domestic labor are really asking for 99/1 princess treatment. That said, charts are an effective tool for children. The "man cave" concept is a bit tacky, but does offer a solution to some domestic discord over cleanliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:24 AM
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You want to use shaming as a counter-incentive to change behavior. That's fine, but some men don't care. Their marketplace value is already so low. You are basically telling men to "smile more".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:13 AM
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It's the inevitable outcome of "you are not entitled to anything". I do not encourage men to be mean as a prescriptive approach. But I do claim on a descriptive basis that there are some tangential benefits to being mean. In any case, many of the Gen Z men in surveys report never having asked out a woman, making this entire discussion almost moot.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:10 AM
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Are there any legal self-defence products that I can buy? | West Yorkshire Police Read it and weep. The YooKay
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:54 AM
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Wherever the "breed of peace" roams
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:07 AM
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The argument is that of inequality. And admitting what I say does not weaken that basis. Chads and women could voluntarily restrain themselves. Women could choose to not engage in AF/BB. But they don't have to. In the present society, a woman can do nearly everything wrong and still have a legion of simps on the dating apps. What low value men can do is disengage and go their own way. Save a brother, shiv a simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:59 AM
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OC spray is in between a harsh word and hot lead.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:46 AM
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Perhaps, it can vary case-to-case. In some cases they succeed in getting a relationship, but are resentful that they were settled for. In some cases, they get a relationship for lack of options. In some cases they "pump and dump", but resent having to fake a relationship or resent having to expend resources and time. In some cases they can't keep up the act and fail to get anything, as you directly suggest. You might as well be asking why they don't use professionals. They want to be treated as …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:43 AM
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There is no authoritative "sidebar" of the blue pill. The closest thing is the Mark Manson books, which he gave no indication of referencing. He said nothing about TRP standbys like lifting weights, earning more money, depedestalizing women. He said nothing about referencing "the true nature of women". Nothing about the Dark Triad. I don't know his demographic background, which is vital to understanding the efficacy of any actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:38 AM
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This is a US centric viewpoint. Other Anglosphere countries have severely restrictive laws, even more punitive than Putin's Russia. In some, even capsaicin spray is considered an illegal firearm. Only some Eastern European nations allow the carrying of firearms for self-defense, and in any case the level of street crime there is far lower than in the typical US, Brazilian or RSA city. That aside, women are less likely to have served in the military (which correlates strongly with firearms owners…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:25 AM
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Then why not pursue hookups? The median het male is not able to do this with even the typical sub-median het female. Most men do not have options in an economic sense, they are "price takers", women are an "oligopsony"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:15 AM
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Blue pill advice often works if you "read between the lines". If you have low standards, simp and keep trying endlessly, you probably will get some positive results. Most blue pill advice is indirect and "feel-good" rather than being in the blunt red pill style.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:33 PM
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His self-described "systemic improvement" was "taking photos" and "writing bio". That isn't TRP. My memory of "the sidebar" is hazy, but I don't recall either of those things being a part of it. He can be one of the most loathsome regulars on here, but it's silly to claim that someone who openly rejected PUA as a scam is somehow a TRP success.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:28 PM
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Men on average face an order of magnitude greater level of romantic rejection vis a vis women. Men also run a greater risk of interpersonal violence, HR sanctions and social media cancellation as a result of rejection. As rejection is an emasculating outcome, men can respond with wrath to compensate for the shame. If they were of a more Machiavellian bent, they would respond with crying, which tilts the playing field to a feminine level, assuming aforesaid male has priced in the emasculation. Me…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:13 PM
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Men can have an incentive to be mean, it feels good. Society creates counter-incentives to encourage pro-social behavior. But there are several disadvantages to being unquestionably nice in the face of serial rejection. It leads to depression, thoughts of emasculation, decreased respect from peers, etc. If men aren't entitled to anything for being nice, women should not feel entitled to niceness from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:08 PM
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We're it so easy. In practice, man is an irrational being, and can respond to rejection by exchanging pain for pain. While they should not, they aren't always going to act like a Vulcan.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:04 PM
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This site is a bubble. I am just a gadfly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 10:12 PM
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Some of us consider her to be an agent of "red-green" tyranny, something we want no less than you want to be ruled by the tyranny of Andrew Tate,
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 09:54 PM
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Perhaps they don't reciprocate your affection.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 09:23 PM
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Have you considered that young girls are also seeing radicalized content like Greta for instance, or are you going to pretend that radicalization is a one way street?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 09:22 PM
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Just world Women are wonderful Many such cases
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 09:18 PM
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"We went to class just to pass the time , back in '89"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 09:15 PM
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If you have options, which most men (and most men here do not) then you need not "be nice". And as many are fond of saying "being nice is the bare minimum and you are not entitled to xyz for it". So if there are men who get nothing for being nice, they have no incentive for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 09:14 PM
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We have not established that, you argue that "x are not terrorists". I do not agree in full. I do think that most involuntarily celibate are not even self-identified, and even in most of the self-identified are not terrorists or even sympathizers. But there have been several attacks in the name of this ideology, and there are phora where these attacks are glorified. It is possible that some of these phora are spook honeypots. "Guilt by association" does not work in the courts of law, but it does…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 03:45 AM
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Your opinions (and mine) don't matter here. Your actions do. It is your choice to change your handle, disaffiliate from the ideology and encourage others to defect to a more constructive community. Or you can wallow in denial of being associated with terrorists, when communities that identify with the same label as you openly glorify terror attacks. Dopamine rushes are not a substitute for grinding it out in policy battles.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 03:32 AM
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The majority's opinion exists independently of what you or I think. The governments of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and the Dominion of Canada both classify aforesaid movement as terrorism. It does not matter that you don't consider yourself a terrorist, or even a casual sympathizer with terrorism. The majority says you are a terrorist, and they have the state and the guns.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 03:14 AM
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Most men are not attractive enough for this. At best, it is an example of "beer goggles".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 03:03 AM
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Historically, the upper class was disproportionately to entirely the component of the officer corps. During the First World War, officers were more likely to die than the enlisted.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:53 AM
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The conclusion of the majority is that you advocate terrorism and therefore your views are to be banned. Your identity is entirely wrapped up with terrorists, you cannot do anything to change this perception, but you can disavow terrorism and the ideology that it was waged for.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:50 AM
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Is it better than the TRP fearpron of being betabuxxed to a single mother that is only looking for a bailout?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:34 AM
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Or they can go their own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:28 AM
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Red Pill flouts the Feminine Imperative, which most if not all societies are based around. By his actions, the subject of the OP is depriving a hypothetical same age bracket woman of his resources. That is not acceptable. Worse he is corrupting the youth. Now he is also being a wrecker towards younger men, by pricing them out from an age appropriate relationship with these alleged intern women. But the Longhouse is not going to care about that so much, they will care much more about just getting…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:28 AM
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There's worse, he could have met a Tate Brother, or N Fuentes, or Destiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:23 AM
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It's not that hard to lower your standards for appearance, and raise the standards of your own behavior. It's just time consuming, not very enjoyable and offers questionable results.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:19 AM
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ur mom
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 04:46 PM
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I'm rather hostile to determinism as a concept. While also being hostile to blank slatism when it comes to biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 03:54 AM
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"monolith" is an exaggeration, it is better described as a "trend" or "stereotype". Some women have the market value to demand "having it all" where they can gain a high powered career, but also where they can get generous maternity leave, a high status husband that also does domestic labor. Can most women do this, no. Do most women want this, more likely than not. Aspirational luxury content is social media grist. Further than this, there are women who demand the traditional emotional deference…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 03:44 AM
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On paper, they could complain that high status men should voluntarily restrain themselves. The issue in practice, is that this is Plebbit, and most poasters despise the instrument of self-restraint which we call "religion". It's rather odd to say something like "All Chads should be like Tim Tebow and Philip Rivers". it doesn't fuel any anger that you get from saying "Th0t Patrol is coming to send those 304s back to the streets where they belong".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 03:34 AM
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We have some countries in Europe that are women-lead and have high equality ratings, which are doing pretty well! And then we will bring up the ratio of "defense spending to GDP". and then we can compare this ratio to OrangeManBad's country and VladtheImpaler's country. The high equality ratings are luxury beliefs subsidized by things varying from US defense spending, to the Norwegian sovereign wealth fund, and for that matter by eating the seed corn from the homogenous Protestant societies they…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 03:28 AM
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In that particular context, most greens are opposed to nuclear power, they hate autos and they seem to exclusively condemn Western industrialization while ignoring China/India. They also are the largest cheerleaders of mass immigration. In one particularly local context, greens were accused of supporting wolf repopulation specifically to screw over (male) hunters in some Western US states. I cannot think of a single prominent green that could be called a social conservative, maybe the Pope, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 03:21 AM
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Most men are not high status, most men will be settled for or otherwise they will go their own way. Once a society reaches enough wealth to redistribute for female economic independence, most women don't need to settle to avoid poverty. If we look at women's revealed preferences, as shown by app data and increasing marital age and singleness, they don't have reciprocal attraction to the modal unit of men. We also must consider that the social factors that applied to Boomers and prior cohorts wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 03:03 AM
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I think she is complaining about the lack of gender solidarity. Perhaps if women didn't criticize single mothers, she thinks that the shaming blockade on males would work.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 04:15 AM
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I don't think land density is a credible explanation. High density ROK and JPN also have the same gender war/disengagement. ROK is even more severe than any Western country.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:46 AM
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Most are incapable of nuance. It is akin to saying "I don't hate China, I only hate the Communist Party", when Pro-Beijing shills will routinely point out that the Party is widely supported. Most outsiders won't say "I only support Anti Communist Dissident Chinese". It's too complicated. In the individualized matrix, it is only "non-hateful" to say that you won't personally date a single mother and would counsel other men against the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:43 AM
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Hell has frozen over, we are in agreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:40 AM
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The manosphere has been active well before the Covid lockdown era, it may have accelerated it, but its complaints are not new by any measure.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:36 AM
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I am not going to do the security state's job for them, as I do not think you are a terrorist. This is a publicly viewable forum, and they for whatever reason might have actual employees or contractors here. And they can have their NSA equivalent scrape anything of interest. If so, Hello MI5, I don't appreciate what you are doing, your bosses are worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:28 AM
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The laws are different outside of the US. I will make an educated guess that in the UK or Germany you'd be facing jail time if you were resident there and wrote this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:18 AM
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Free speech absolutism is a particularly late 20th Century US concept, which extended to the pre-2014 era of the Internet. The rest of historical and contemporary societies have a much harsher view of what speech is allowed, and what is called either "blasphemy" or "subversion". These days the left-liberal opponents call it "hate speech". It is quite plausible that your use of "Feminazi" would be called illegal in several countries as being "antisemitism" and "trivializing the Holocaust". I am g…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 01:58 AM
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Are we begging the question here? I'm not here to appropriate the female perspective, or to defend single motherhood in abstract. I'm not going to comment about wealthy celebrities that could afford a public relations firm to defend their reputation. This is an atypical diversion of the typical fare which blames men for lowering the RMV of single mothers, and instead wants to shame women for betraying the sisterhood. That I am against. It is wrong to shame a single mother for being a single moth…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 01:55 AM
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It's much better to just go your own way. Women are already capable of sabotaging themselves without your help. And we should not be encouraging social discord, but restoring order.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 01:49 AM
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Log off
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 01:47 AM
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The terrorists could not have won against an enemy that used Genghis Khan tactics. The next one will.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 01:44 AM
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The state will get better at repressing you. One election goes a certain way and you get jailed for writing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 01:41 AM
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It is legal in Australia and idk if people are ever suggesting that it means male disengagement doesn't happen there. Or maybe Kangaroo Jack is real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 10:16 PM
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The lack of mandatory paternity testing, and being forced to pay for children that aren't biologically yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 09:45 PM
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Apparently you were concerned to respond to a four month old poast.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 03:14 AM
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There is a distinction between the victim blaming that says "choose better", and a slightly different concept where the victim is blamed for "what she wore". The former implies some agency, while the latter does not. Male poasters do bring up the former quite a lot, the latter almost never. In meatspace both are considered taboo. There is also the "bystander blaming" that is eagerly done by women, who claim a direct line of casuality between an offensive joke and violent crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 02:23 AM
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Victim blaming has been held as a taboo for quite some time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 02:08 AM
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Why does everyone in this sub confuse "personality" with being a good person or being progressive? This is Plebbit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 12:21 PM
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Noticing this pattern is what women mean when they say an unattractive man has a "bad personality". A "good personality" means that you shut up and simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 12:18 PM
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Personally, I am low-trust from a low-trust society. So the only winning move is not to play.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 03:46 AM
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It is unlikely. Young men are the least politically active bloc, and all other blocs in society are hostile to "letting deadbeats off".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 03:32 AM
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In the cases of "maternity fraud" where the hospital switches babies, there is usually considerable civil damages. From a certain point of view, accepting and concealing paternity fraud is viewed as superior to divorce. From certain female perspectives here, testing should be a no-win for the man, if the test is positive the outcome is divorce, if the test is negative then there was an accusation of adultery and the outcome is divorce. The only non-divorce outcome on the chart is to not test, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 03:29 AM
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The legal system that exists allows women to successfully deceive a husband into raising a child that isn't theirs, and then forces them to pay for it if the deception is uncovered. There is no criminal or even social sanctions for this, even in traditionalist leaning parts the male will be shamed into accepting it. As we live in a feminine primary social order, there is no chance of paper abortions being legalized unless it was somehow benefiting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 03:19 AM
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Stated preference/Revealed preference Women's revealed preference has been shown to increasingly reject "settling" with men when there is no boost in socio-economic factors. Women might state they are less happy, but their actions say otherwise. Women have proven that at least some of them can get the benefits of feminism and of traditionalism. And that typically, they are unsatisfied unless they can burden men with the traditional and feminist obligations.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 03:07 AM
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The courts usually assign strict liability to paternity. There is no escape even when there was a statutory conviction, or that sperm was stolen when unconscious. Men are supposed to just shut up and pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 02:47 AM
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Consider that women poasters here have occasionally said that they think there should be no paternity testing, and that they want to shame men into being step-dads. There is a generalized disgust towards seeing men as beasts of burden.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 02:45 AM
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The logic will be more likely to be used to ban advocating for the banning of abortions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 02:37 AM
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It's not hypocrisy, it's hierarchy. Eggs expensive, sperm cheap. As these communities are usually concerned with men that get minimal or no access at all; it is a rather privileged take to concern ourselves with men concerned about paper abortions. Unilateral male responsibility is a vestigial remnant of traditionalism that has been incorporated into feminism. And we just have to deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 02:32 AM
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Because they have options, and you don't /thread
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 02:18 AM
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The trash took itself out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 01:52 AM
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The behaviors we call "simping" "beta orbiting" "friendzone" and "niceguy" occur for the obvious reason that despite their low efficiency, they work. It also helps if the beggar isn't a chooser and accepts bad appearance, habits and single mothers (also a target for predators). Women, anecdotally and statistically, aren't that bothered by this behavior as they would be by its absence. Policing this behavior has to come from other males imposing a social cost, and in its most extreme manifestatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 01:37 AM
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And yet enough of the time they can still find a simp that will go along, or just accept going their own way. (Below) average men are the "price takers" in this system.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 01:19 AM
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Statistically larger age gaps are correlated with higher incidence of divorce. Higher partner count is also correlated. It would be statistically preferable to seek a spouse of a small age gap that had a lower partner count.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 01:16 AM
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AI has already replaced the chat boiler rooms from South Asia, it will soon replace the content producing side as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 01:08 AM
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The mill needs grist
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 01:06 AM
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Under the current paradigm, perhaps they cannot do anything to become dateable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 01:19 AM
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Because they don't want to do the job
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 10:10 PM
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This varies by state. I am not sure what the comparable rations are in Canada or UK.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 10:32 PM
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Male teachers are extremely rare at the US primary school level, and only become near parity at the US High School level.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 09:56 PM
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The typical background of poasters on this site is rarely working class or below. This dysfunction is actually rather common in these strata.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 09:44 PM
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He was also, evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 09:38 PM
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Maybe if you touch some grass, it will be great again?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 09:30 PM
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bro don't be a necromancer
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 02:35 AM
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You are engaging in textbook subversion, smearing men as terrorists that don't engage in terrorist activity. You are not engaging in good faith, you are trying to bait into a gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 02:34 AM
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What is vital about this feminism? That it results in growing minority of men into being permanently single, largely due to superficial genetic factors? (Femspeak: Ick) Gender pay equality exists because the state rigs the economy in its favor, at the price of crippling lawsuit judgements. This ultimately is a zero sum game, and results in some men being zeroed out. Your side swivels between denying this and glorifying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 02:16 AM
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The first category doesn't poast here much, if at all, and it is rather hard to transmute Machiavellianism into Altruism. But they do exist. The second category is actually rather common here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 01:50 AM
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Yeah but no one is that desperate for a relationship. You best start believing in ghost stories, you're in one
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 01:39 AM
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I'm being honest. Men in the first two quintiles have bad options, and it should not be sugarcoated. The other option is to go their own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 01:28 AM
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Pick a religious community, become a devout member, lower your standards for appearance, raise them for long term compatibility, cultivate a social network and extended family, date only with intention to marry, marry sooner rather than later, pay for everything, do most of the domestic labor. In some cases be prepared to accept a "reformed slut" or worse the children of other men. Do this with borderline glee. It could take years, even decades. And you still could get cleaned out in divorce cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 01:21 AM
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Fempoasters will say that the women in these pairings are bangmaids and oppressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 01:12 AM
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The Seven Sisters were founded before the XIX amendment for female suffrage was passed, and before the Civil Rights Acts were passed that prohibited most sex discrimination. The proposed Equal Rights Amendment was never passed, and probably never will be passed, because it would lead to women being conscripted into the military.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 01:09 AM
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No amount of data is going to convince you, but enough data might appear to eventually bankrupt the app corporations.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 01:07 AM
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"Natural/Unnatural" is not congruent with "Right/Wrong". Some men force other men into financial coercion to fund a welfare state that is used to undermine their interests. Some men decide to drop out. Industrial society is a luxury, and feminism is a luxury belief and policy. Low status men don't have much of an incentive to participate, and so "Charon Shrugs".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 01:02 AM
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They have "The Sidebar". Other might have something else. Some have the "Torah" "Bible" "Quran" "Vedas" "Analects", Sagan dismissed them all, though I will say that he dismissed some with greater ferocity and mischievousness.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 12:57 AM
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You don't like the data. Sagan didn't like religion. It conflicted with his own sectarian biases and prurient interests. Nothing would convince Sagan, and nothing will convince you. Your beliefs are wrong, but somehow they work for you, and we cannot change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 12:53 AM
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That choice doesn't exist in the state of nature, it exists in the welfare state. Which is financed by taxes that are disproportionately paid by men. And now we see that the "Women are wonderful, kindler and gentler" is clearly a myth when low status men enter into the equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 12:48 AM
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Seven Sisters (colleges) - Wikipedia) These were founded in the XIX century. Title IX was enacted in the XX century.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 12:42 AM
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That is subversion. It is a dishonest attempt to pathologize men as terrorists that never engaged in terrorism. And I will call it out as such. Just as I will call out those who are shills for terrorism.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 12:39 AM
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I think it would be more honest if you didn't refer to low status men as "privileged" because they are not. If the cost of gender equality is that there will be 1/5th of a male generational cohort that is chronically single, we need to be honest about it. I do give some grudging admiration for some of you that describe this in nakedly eugenic terms, which I don't agree with myself. If some feminists are willing to shame other women as "pick-me", then it is possible that they could shame women in…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 12:37 AM
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You are imposing the Sagan Standard. An intentionally impossible standard, the Calvinball of philosophy. There is "extraordinary evidence" but Sagan didn't like it so he ignored it. There is data, even in these censored parts, and entire subplebbit called "tinderdata", but you don't like the evidence so you deny it. Just like Sagan did.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 12:24 AM
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That only works for the actual "average frustrated chumps" in the third quintile. But for the marginal and below average men in the first and second quintiles; they are often desperate to appeal to any. Above average and elite men are rarely found in these parts. An understanding of who the audience is, should always be important. Most men that end up in these spaces can't actually benefit from TRP, they need to be running a "Beta Game".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 12:16 AM
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New Study Reveals Interesting Link Between Men's Height And Divorce | HuffPost Life
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 12:10 AM
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Timeline of women's colleges in the United States - Wikipedia
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 12:05 AM
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Seeing low status young men as rather pitiable and pathetic "ForeverAlones" is arguably better than seeing them as smoldering proto-terrorist "involuntary celibates". We tend to get the former from older women, but the latter from their peer age women. Which is understandable. We can have an easier time asking men to police their peers, rather than have women pity their male peers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 12:03 AM
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Nice has no correlation with attractiveness. You cannot grind through niceness out of the "friendzone" and into a relationship. An unattractive person cannot expect to receive the same treatment as an attractive person, we call that "entitlement" and with males we police it heavily. There is a phrase "know your place". Egalitarian leaning women don't like to explicitly say it, but I will.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 11:57 PM
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Because they have options and you don't. /thread
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 11:54 PM
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Some say denial is the first stage of grief. Others say that denial is the last stage of ______.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 11:52 PM
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The term means "involuntary celibate", and is widely associated with being a terrorist movement. It is not not the same as the word "misogynist". An individual can be an "involuntary celibate" without being a misogynist or supporting terrorist acts. But it is better if that indiviual accepted their state and became a "voluntary celibate".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 11:50 PM
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Women have a higher predominance over men in US higher education, than was the reverse ratio when Title IX was enacted.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 11:44 PM
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Gender equality is a quintessential value of Western culture. Fighting against it is akin to a fish fighting water.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 11:42 PM
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Money printer go brrr
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 11:34 PM
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They cannot accept the idea that there are consequences to low status men as a result of feminist policies. Doing so threatens the foundation of their morality which is based in victimhood. Men cannot be victims of feminism, it always must be some other ism.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 11:32 PM
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The issue of "desensitization" is the shock value argument, and may only apply to token numbers of individual consumers. The mundane issue is that of undesirable leisure consumption. Women don't want men simping for an e-Stacy. They want men grinding for their irl looksmatch. And women are aware of near ubiquitous male consumption, and this has only increased their revulsion for their male peers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 03:15 AM
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We can only attach criminal liability to the producer of the abuse, the law has not yet been changed to treat adult nonconsensual images in the same way that it treats csam, where there is strict liability for possession and distribution. The law does allow for civil liability, in the similar way that it treats copyright infringement. The risk here is that it leads to Napster style lawsuits that target the judgement proof. Nominally, the pron industry relies on some form of contracts to claim it…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 03:06 AM
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I think that India and China are less ethically objectionable than the PRC. The former governments are not as objectionable. That said, living standards in the PRC are better than the former two, as long as one toes the CCP line.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 02:49 AM
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Animated abuse is still capable of desensitizing the viewer to irl abuse. Abuse is also only one facet, there is also the issue of time consumption and unrealistic image standards. There are also issues affecting the spiritual attitude of the viewer. If you are choking the chicken instead of the grindset for irl women that aren't artificially attractive, there is a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 02:47 AM
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The alternative to China is usually Mexico or India, and this decision is made at the corporate purchasing level. The consumer only sees the fine print.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 02:38 AM
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I think it is a plausible hypothesis that the long term reduction in pron supply could lead to decreased assaults, by virtue of reducing the exposure and thus demand for deviant sex. But in the short run, it seems implausible on its own. Public policy would require a mass medication of the addicts cut off. Which could legitimize mass surveillance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 08:47 PM
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where is the open discussion how to tackle the issues properly instead of victim olympics? Most discussion is going to be focused on "law and order" which tends to be male-coded. What women usually tend to want is "teach boys not to x", as though hectoring from the schoolmarm will discourage innate/conditioned deviancy. Anything that speaks of avoidance and self-defense also tends to get called "victim blaming". And consider that capsacin spray (non controversial in the US) is banned in Canada, …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 12:16 AM
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Women on this site genuinely seem to think that "NiceGuys" are their biggest threat, whether or not this is statistically true is a different question. Statistically, iirc, women are less likely to use the block feature than men, which would question this assumption. There is a considerable difference between pestering women online, and pestering them irl. The latter runs the risk of physical assault from bystanders, employment termination, and arrest/conviction. Maybe even some pepper spray for…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 11:27 PM
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Welcome to the simp society. Equal rights =/= Equal responsibilities. Enjoy your stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 11:21 PM
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Some men might be willing to "wokefish" to get a date, but few to none seem willing to "wokewash" themselves and genuinely accept left wing positions to increase their appeal. Statistically, the latter option probably be more likely to work, but it requires work.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 11:09 PM
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Women tend to think that written smut is morally better than the visual content consumed by males. I don't recall anyone saying that 50 shades had to be put in a brown bag as the Playboy of ye olde 80s. Pron consumption does waste time and energy, even when we are talking about adults alone. That does not justify a ban, but it does suggest regulation and enshittification. It would be better wrt minors that parents would just not buy them smartphones and impose filters on their home devices. But …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 11:04 PM
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Consuming pron results in an expenditure of energy. Take away that outlet, and it will be finding another. Forcing men to "touch grass", could lead to some of them touching a woman of opportunity without their consent. When the addict quits cold turkey, withdrawal symptoms happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 11:00 PM
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Most parents lack the spine to have their children on fliphones only. They are also rather inept at using filters.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 10:52 PM
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It's a mask off moment. Just waiting for the next edition where paying to raise other men's children is being shilled as "trad".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 10:43 PM
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The OP is a Plebbit moment. More pushing cuckoldry. Go be a degen somewhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 10:41 PM
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Sauce?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 09:46 AM
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I'm sure you can smell their personality through the screen. Because the issue is that the Nice Guys aren't Chad. They aren't The Same Guy chosen on the base superficial characteristics.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:01 AM
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If I was a woman I wouldn't marry me. I need several camels to haul my baggage.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:50 AM
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She can't grok "women are trash for dating the same guys". She has to find a way to blame men, but not The Same Guys. It is apparently the fault of Nice Guys that women date The Same Guys. And they definitely aren't trying to date them. Teahee
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:46 AM
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Men are Trash But not The Same Guys teahee
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:41 AM
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It's amazing that any man who isn't The Same Guy is an abuser or a serial killer. And that women can tell this by something as simple as appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:31 AM
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I aim to be mean in a polite fashion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:26 AM
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Maybe you should encourage your peers to "woman up" and experiment with some of the thirsty "Nice Guys" in their DMs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:25 AM
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Women date the same guys and It's the fault of the guys that women aren't dating
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:20 AM
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Maybe because they aren't gay? And maybe you shouldn't try and shame people into changing their sexual orientation?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:18 AM
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men consistently tell us that they want to "spread their seed" and fuck as many women as possible by their nature and that naturally monogamous men are the exception not the rule. Funny, I had thought we were in a society of millions of sexless men that are now considered the number one terrorist threat. Now these men are apparently candidates for the Maury show.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:16 AM
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Dating the same guys
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:12 AM
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I've known co-workers that were professionals on the side. I had these anecdotes confirmed when visiting the subplebbits that are dedicated for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:11 AM
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If women weren't "dating the same guy", they would enter these groups and mostly encounter tumbleweeds. But they don't. And the groups have exponentially grown. Because when there is smoke, there is fire. I understand that this possibility is discomforting to you, but consider that it is the lived experienced of untold men that show on "tinderdata" that they make tens of thousands of swipes for nothing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:09 AM
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Domestic Labor Emotional Labor Happy Wife, Happy Life Birth Rates return to replacement level
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:03 AM
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Some of us saw what they were when the mask was off. I guess some people want to believe the shadows in the cave represent real people. Others came into the blinding light.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:00 AM
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If there was no sound, there would be no echo.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 01:58 AM
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Equal Rights =/= Equal Responsibilities. Reject the Third Wave, Return to Victorianism
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 01:57 AM
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Oi, you got a loicense for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 01:52 AM
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The typical allusion is that "warm approach" is really being a "beta orbiter" and devoting time and resources to effortpoast into attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 01:51 AM
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Professionals are not known for their charming personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 01:49 AM
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One only has so much time. Your opportunities get worse the older you get. Some people want children. Take your standards Lower them Lower them again ??? Profit
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 01:47 AM
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Why do men think women are trying to share the top men? Why are "Are we dating the same guy? groups" and the Tea app so ridiculously popular with women? Is it all a hoax created by Putin? Or is it the elephant in the room of in-your-face proof? Should we also note the repeated studies which show that if online dating apps were an economy, they would be the most unequal economy in the world. I don’t believe in using men I don’t desire for their resources. I simply won’t date them . It’s not fair …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 01:46 AM
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This is why it’s so easy to hook up in high school and college, you’re around the same girls every day and that lowers their inhibitions of seeing you as a stranger. Because people were shitfaced drunk, particularly when Boomers were young. Gen Z is rather dry, the driest since the Lost Generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 01:40 AM
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The vast lot of average (below average) males don't have the charisma to pull off cold approach. Warm approach offers the potential benefit of preselection, because her female peers have endorsed you. Cold approach is also highly vulnerable to "creep shaming", and the Tea app and its inevitably better designed successors will capitalize on it. If you live in the YooKay, cold approach is also illegal. In some developing countries, cold approach could literally lead to interpersonal violence. Supp…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 01:38 AM
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I did not call for jailing the Tea App founders, yet. But now I have decided to call for jailing them, because they are guilty of fraud, they are also liable for civil judgement for data breaches. You don't get to demand consistency from me. You can't even get it yourself. Your concern is not "freeze peach". It is "punch up/down" and "who/whom". You want women to be able to doxx men, because you think men are privileged oppressors. You'd be screaming to jail anyone that created a "Hoefax" app be…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 01:27 AM
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Access to the App Store is a privilege, it is not free speech. Some of us remember the "its a private company days" when anything to the right of some NeverTrumper was getting yeeted. Then Elon gave us back our freeze peach, and "its a private company" turned into "Luigi the private company". And if you really were about "free speech rights", you'd have to be screaming for imposing BDS on the United Kingdom, which routinely jails people for hurt feelings and memes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 01:17 AM
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Journolists, Academics and Wikipedia Admins said so. People that just so happened to vote 99% Democrat in the last election. And so that the record isn't further distorted: Journolist was real. GameJournoPros was real. The mainstream media really is a left-wing circle jerk, it was exposed clear as day back in 2014. They couldn't tolerate that otherwise apolitical video games were the only form of media that wasn't dominated by the left.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 12:37 AM
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The mods should nuke your gotcha threads, they aren't free speech.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 12:29 AM
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Men don't think that the Tea app is free speech, because it is bad for their interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 12:28 AM
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Of course not. I'm saying that virtually no one who was involved in fighting for free speech for child pornography and rape threats has come out in defense of AWDTSG and Tea. You need to name some names of a notable person that opposed nuking a csam sub 13 years ago, and has been silent in July/August 2025. Apple has not nuked the Tea app from the AppStore. I am unaware of any pressure group that wants them to do so, or any action from the DOJ for this to happen. Apple did nuke right-wing altern…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 12:24 AM
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Just don't be a piece of shit, and you won't have an issue. PATRIOT ACT logic I'm old enough to remember when leftists opposed this way of thinking. Then 0bama won and they thought they had a permanent lock on power.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 12:17 AM
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Journolists, Academics and Wikipedia Admins don't own the historical record.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 12:16 AM
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The ostensible reason was that the founder's mother was meeting felons off of other apps. The likely consequence will be that men that "stared too long on the subway" will get creep shamed. And of course, none of the men getting creep shamed would be a Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 12:09 AM
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In the days of dead tree media, I can't recall publications that posted dossiers of men alleging that they committed crimes and other anti social behavior. I don't want to risk a Rule 5 violation that gets the thread nuked, but surely a leftist like you would be wary of the historical context in which gossip has led to tragic results.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 12:07 AM
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You are here in bad faith. Your post is "defend the doxxing of men or you are a hypocrite that wants csam on plebbit" If we are going to have a social credit system, then at least it should require due process.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 12:00 AM
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Perhaps you are a misandrist because you aren't defending the honor of "the five guys" who are also people without honor. But because they are men, they didn't get the victimhood aura.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 11:53 PM
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Sarkessian is a naked con artist that learned her tricks from an MLM scam.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 11:42 PM
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ZQ never sued any of the accusers for defamation, because the discovery process would have proven her the liar. It's not as though there weren't considerable resources that would have been available to here in order to bankrupt the anti-feminist cause in return for Thiel bankrupting Gawker. ZQ is your Helen of Troy. But don't think yourself an Achilles.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 11:41 PM
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I stan Chris Hansen.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 11:36 PM
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The idea is to impose a social credit system on men, that was exclusive to only women. The founders of the app were thankfully incompetent. The next ones will learn from their mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 11:33 PM
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I'm not here to defend illegal csam and death threats. I am not here to defend achoo. Ellen Pao is a wealthy woman, if she wants to be defended, I expect to be compensated, and so should you. ZQ is a person without honor. Defending her literally led to Trump winning office. Leftists should have thrown her under the bus back in '14.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 11:31 PM
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If they had just let the gamers slut shame ZQ back in '14, the left could have enjoyed Hillary beating Jeb! in '16. But they couldn't. They had to defend that creep's and the other five guys' honor for reasons I still don't understand. Do conservatives still have to defend the honor of Sarah Palin in these times? If not, then surely the left can make a long delayed time to throw ZQ and Sarkessian the conartist under the bus.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 11:23 PM
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To me it seems like many of the women in this thread are complaining that they can't extract the maximum amount of domestic labor out of the father (which becomes the "bare minimum"). Some guy playing games is apparently evidence of abuse and neglect in itself, because this dad said it was easy, which means he isn't doing enough and needs to be miserable. Statistically speaking, married fathers tend to work the most hours. The Impact of Marriage on How Much Men Work | Richmond Fed It's an ever i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 01:58 AM
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It's a long list of replies saying that women are miserable as parents, and they want men to be more miserable. Well, I guess I don't feel so bad about being unmarried and not having children.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 01:32 AM
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A haZy memOry, thEreby QUIte the chaNge of circumstaNces
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 08:56 PM
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Desert/Swamp /thread
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 01:38 AM
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The topic is touching a third rail that normally results in cancellation. But the same third rail that electrocutes the average also gave 1962 King Kong the power to fight Godzilla.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 12:40 AM
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What the fuck is wrong with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 12:02 AM
3

Here lies the myth of the "Kinder, Gentler Blue Pill"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 11:52 PM
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The equivalence was "unwanted attention", not the type of attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 11:43 PM
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Most average (below average) men don't have unattractive women filling their DMs thirsting after them. The OP is about how male thirst is not an example of female privilege, no more than gay male thirst is a straight male privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 11:29 PM
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Certain topics are kettled, lest the entire sub get nuked by the management. The Pre-2014 world was a very different place.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 11:05 PM
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Sounds like loser's cope. If you could sleep with hundreds of women, but choose not to, sure, I will hear you out. It probably is sour grapes, but it is immensely possible that you could view hundreds of pron of women, an if you can quit that, it is worth something.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:53 PM
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There are legion of youtube videos of chad fish and women being a man on a dating app. The needle isn't budging.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:44 PM
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The divorce rate is down because the marriage rate is down. Few marriages in the developed world occur because of familial coercion, economic necessity or social climbing. Most marriages exist from personal fulfillment, which in some cases overlaps with religious duty.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:43 PM
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Calling them pathetic isn't going to get them to change into the pro-social behavior you desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:37 PM
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Guilt tripping women into pity sex is a strategy, not a particularly good one, but probably better for many men than any guru could sell you in a seminar.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:34 PM
1

Some of us left the anger phase long ago. Others are yet to find their way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:32 PM
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Just World Fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:30 PM
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then straight men having gay men thirsting after them is also an advantage I did not say that "straight men were choosing to become gay". You inferred that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:26 PM
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At least you're getting matches and dates from a group that has at least some individuals you actually want to sleep with. ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:14 PM
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The deprived status of lower status men is analogous to the unsafety felt by nearly all women who are undersized vis a vis men. Women are unapt to be persuaded by low value men complaining that they have no sexual access. Said men have pron, fleshlights, old fashioned meat beat, and grindr. The options being bad does not nullify their existence. If men want more sympathy, they'd be better off practicing self denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:12 PM
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If you believe it is an advantage, then straight men having gay men thirsting after them is also an advantage? Is it? Is the Purple Pill the Bi Pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:07 PM
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The concept of "settling" is a shibboleth here. But it is actually quite necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:06 PM
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Leftist discourse on abortion is always about "bodily autonomy" and "women's rights". If a hypothetical law allowed a woman the option of procuring an abortion to get a DNA test and get the putative father arrested, it sidesteps those two discourses. There aren't many around who defend "free love" and the "sexual revolution", and most leftists are rather easygoing about the idea of a rather large number of men being undatable. "Paper abortions" and "mandatory dna testing at birth" have mostly re…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 09:43 PM
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Typically social conservatives are averse to subsidizing contraception, viewing it as an enabler of casual sex. The second order consequence is using abortion as a birth control. What men's right activists have historically complained about is that social conservatives have supported aggressive child support collection from a law and order viewpoint; which overlaps with feminists. Ezra Klein once infamously defended the "Yes means Yes" enthusiastic concept by saying that men needed to feel "a co…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 09:32 PM
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This has only come up in the law wrt chemical castration of those convicted of rape and perhaps other sex offenses. It is hard to see this as a "men's right's" view, especially as the same hormonal therapy is harshly defended as a treatment for gender dysphoria. If the law demands physical castration of those convicted of a sex offense, this is overkill to make an ersatz capital punishment. The offender should simply remain incarcerated.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 09:25 PM
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If the punishment for abortion was only applied to the male, I do wonder as a thought experiment if otherwise left-leaning types would be that opposed. The "Nordic Model" for prostitution as applied to abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 09:15 PM
1

This is Plebbit. The platform is notorious for its hatred of religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 09:12 PM
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Lysistrata was written by a man, and reflects male fears. If marginal men are convinced that supporting the left means they will get female attention, they will shift.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:26 AM
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Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet was intentionally portrayed as scandalous to its audience. Such an early age pairing was at wide variance with the accepted age in early modern England, a process known as the "Hajnal Line". In preindustrial times, there was rampant infant mortality, jobsite mortality, semi-regular wars, and capital punishment for low level offenses or else transportation to the colonies. Low value males often didn't survive to marriageable age, and widows were a public concern. Fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:07 AM
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Anything that contains the I word will get the sub nuked by the management of this company. Even with the stringent hall monitors, its amazing that this sub still exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 07:07 PM
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https://www.psypost.org/physical-attractiveness-far-outweighs-other-traits-in-online-dating-success/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 07:06 PM
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It should be considered that some of the activity is not genuine, and is the product of intelligence agencies trying to cause violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 06:59 PM
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There isn't much of a reason for lower status men to retain the mirrored preferences of women that aren't attracted to them. At best, they can be left alone playing vidya. Maybe 10 years ago, they should have left them alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 06:58 PM
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The thread is likely to be nuked on Rule 5 for these comments alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 06:55 PM
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have to actually be a decent person to appeal to most people. And here we see the same old claptrap that has been demonstrated to be false. Personality is not an "effort points" that makes one more attractive. This is the worst of all the BP advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 06:43 PM
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or severely lower your standards. It's rare we get actionable advice from BP women, but here we get something useful. If men actually did lower their standards enough, perhaps they might voluntarily accept being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 06:40 PM
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And now you apparently are bitching you can’t get the woman you want because you can’t keep women opposed and financially dependent on men. You are putting words in my mouth. I was an actual Kmart employee, long, long ago. You couldn't force people to stay as a sharecropper, buy from Kmart, or get in a relationship with an unattractive person where there is no economic necessity. I just want that subset of men to go their own way. Because the Blue Light Special is over. The juice is not worth th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 06:27 PM
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Women are Wonderful Just World Many such cases here
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 05:11 PM
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Antebellum plantations and Kmart are both examples of failed businesses that became obsolete. The analogy is that for average (below average) people, men and women, pairing up may be economically obsolete. Because "accepting as equals" actually sucks for many people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 05:10 PM
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Expect less, pay more. The Kmart way*. *Australians won't understand this, Kmart still exists there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 01:58 PM
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"The personal is political" G. Steinem.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 11:39 PM
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PPD believes women only go for hot guys, Chads, top20% guys This extrapolates what 80/20 means. It means that only 20% are found attractive on average. It does not necessarily mean that women will unanimously agree on who the 20% are, but it does indicate that nearly all men will consider most randomly selected men to be unattractive. Further, women may be willing but not eager, to date a man outside of the 20%, but they will resent it. If anything, the existence of the Tea app is an indicator o…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 11:36 PM
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Shaming men for being nice...probably just results in them being mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 11:28 PM
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Online dating is a casino. Most players (men) will lose. And the house (women and the shareholders) always wins. Women don't like this being pointed out. They will spin epicycles to victim blame men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 11:26 PM
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The images should be compiled into a rate-me sample. Then we can get proper statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 11:22 PM
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Certain government contracts have M/F/D/V set asides, and some companies have an "informal quota" system. While a formal quota was barred in the courts, the "wink and nod" approach was considered ok until last year when the US Supreme Court barred it in university admissions. The impact is limited because a) the court still gave a loophole and b) the court couldn't replace left-leaning admissions staff with right-wing individuals that wouldn't use a covert quota. There's also the issue with pre-…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 11:14 PM
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People should report it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 02:46 AM
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Send our regards to Red Emperor Xi
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 02:31 AM
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It offers the possibility that lower status men are being "creep shamed" on the basis of appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 02:15 AM
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West Elm Caleb was the Patient Zero here. And let's not forget that there were calls to get him fired.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 02:13 AM
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How is it justifiable for someone to ask another person to lower their standards? Reciprocity
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 02:10 AM
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I think its fair to ask for lower standards, as long as both parties are honest about it. The latter is rarely achieved.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 02:03 AM
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The us federal government routinely prosecutes thousands upon thousands of people for csam, which all gets posted on peer to peer and the darknet. Most revenge pr0n is getting posted on the clearnet. The normal intention of posting revenge pr0n is to get mass exposure, which isn't exactly what the darknet is for. It seems unusual that the publisher would be trying to trade it for things of value.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 01:33 AM
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The app allows users to upload, view, and comment on photos of men,\2])#citenote-Williams2025-2) check men's public records and perform image searches.[\4])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea(app)#citenote-:1-4) It also provides the ability to rate and review men, as well as a group chat function.[\2])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea(app)#citenote-Williams2025-2)[\5])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea(app)#cite_note-:2-5) We have copypasted from wiki here. I am unsure how "public records" do…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 01:27 AM
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What’s if he was verbally abusive? Mentally? If it’s true I don’t see the harm. This is classic "he said/she said". It is borderline unfalsifiable. Yet people are leaking women’s home addresses, emails and emails, phone numbers, personal info. This may be a crime in some US states, and it is criminalized in some countries. The issue with whatever was being posted is that once you have a name its rather easy to use whitepages search to get the rest of the doxx.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 01:19 AM
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I believe the takedown notice is done by the website. The new law has criminal penalties on the federal level for uploading. I am unsure if each uploading could be charged as a separate offense.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 01:16 AM
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Apps would be unprofitable without lots of men paying for them. It is well known that nearly all of the paying users are male. It's time for simp shivving. Men need to hold other men accountable to delete en masse.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 01:08 AM
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Some women don’t want to go because they feel like they guy will embarrass them by posting nudes/vids or doing whatever else that will permanently following them forever in today’s modern age. The TAKE IT DOWN Act: A Federal Law Prohibiting the Nonconsensual Publication of Intimate Images | Congress.gov | Library of Congress
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 01:05 AM
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I don't think the anger is mostly about the potential doxxing. They are angry that women are actually dating the same guys. It is held up as proof that women are highly selective.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 01:03 AM
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I'm not a lawyers so I have no idea if there is anyone that can be sued for copyright infrigement or otherwise. Or maybe they are judgement proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 12:57 AM
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Are We Dating The Same Guy? - Wikipedia Wiki claims that there have been some shut down, and some lawsuits.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 12:56 AM
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"Abusive" is loosely defined. It is not "domestic violence" which is a subject of criminal law.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 12:52 AM
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Wait and see?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 12:44 AM
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Doxxing appears to be nominally against the rules on that site. How to Get Doxxing Threads Removed from 4chan or Reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 12:43 AM
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The intent of the app and most of its userbase was to impose a social credit system.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 12:39 AM
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"Hoefax" was always a joke, it never seems to have become an app.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 12:37 AM
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You may be confusing that cursed site with achoo, which I'm unsure even exists on the clearnet anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 12:34 AM
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community justice is something that everybody should be responsible for There is a thin line, and not a blue one, between a neighborhood watch and mob rule. a free pass to abusers to do whatever they want, or outsourcing justice to a police force Which sounds like using a barely moderated Tea app to impose what would otherwise be called "defamation" without due process of law.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 12:33 AM
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The Tea app engages in "doxxing", which violates the rules on this site, as well as on Discord.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 12:26 AM
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Women have been socially conditioned to give ugly men a chance and give him a pass for bad treatment regardless of his looks. Considerable data from dating apps, says otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 12:11 AM
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Some of us have gym memberships to sell. Muscle and Blood and Skin and Bones. Fat not included.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 10:57 PM
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Peer age men can't police women's standards. It comes across as whining. This is a task for older women. It doesn't matter for the case of men what women's standards are. They are an independent variable. It does matter what men's standards are. Most males in developed, and even in many developing countries, are overweight, use pr0n, engage in disliked hobbies and support hostile political causes vis a vis their female peers. And if a 3/10 is unsatisfied with the 1/10 and 2/10 that are in his ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 10:20 PM
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It's the "simp society" on display. Equal rights, but not equal responsibilities. Men have to "behave better". And somehow cancel other men for being abusers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 10:13 PM
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That definition moves the goalposts. It is designed to absolve one of guilt because they used professionals, rather than choose the harder, virtuous path.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 10:08 PM
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Why? If you want to add more rules, why not say that it only counts within the bounds of religious marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 10:01 PM
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If you use the carnal services of a professional, you are not celibate. Therefore you are not an inkwell. If you choose not to use professional services, then you are presumably celibate, and you chose, which means "voluntary". You? You chose...poorly
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 09:56 PM
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prostitutes like succubus who only want to drain you for your money The purpose of the system is what it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 09:50 PM
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Most men don't have the market value to do anything about that. It's a company town and Tinder is the company store.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 09:49 PM
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And yet men will talk about being entitled to a "looksmatch" rather than dating down, even way down in attractiveness. Maybe men have become entitled because of widely available HD pr0n and they can't maintain attraction to the women they could actually get...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 09:47 PM
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They should learn to get over it. Eat Bitterness.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 09:14 PM
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Core
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 09:13 PM
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Asceticism
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 08:56 PM
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I think it's better to be honest. And professionals are fake, they are paid for an act. Why not just go your own way?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 08:54 PM
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When the subjective truth is "she belongs to the streets", it will make some people upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 08:52 PM
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People should learn to settle. The era of entitlement is over, we are now in the era of limits.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 08:40 PM
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"manspreading"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 08:33 PM
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Capitalism is a race to the bottom
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 08:27 PM
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One woman's malfunctioning worker drone is another man's wizard.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 08:26 PM
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We should live a virtuous life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 08:22 PM
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It is a fair question for a woman to ask a man in a dating relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 08:21 PM
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It would be better to be voluntarily celibate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 08:20 PM
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Which is why many need to just go their own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 02:11 AM
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And she will make your life hell for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 11:52 PM
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By the virtue of the male not knowing his place in the pecking order, he thereby threatened her place in the pecking order.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 05:40 AM
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Women don't want to approach out of it being against the historic norm, but also because they think it signals desperation. Women also will police other women by saying "Never chase a man" and "Don't chase, attract" phrases of long copy. An update edition of this is to call woman a "pick-me" for approaching men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 05:38 AM
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A better option is to go your own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 05:34 AM
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In a primordial sense, rejection carries with it the threat of retaliation in the form of violence. We usually think about it today in the sense of the rejected male committing violence against the rejecting female. But it historically could have meant retaliation by the woman's relatives, neighbors and the state. In some countries, cold approach is effectively criminalized as street harassment. While this is not the norm in the US per se, it can lead to being a social pariah. Having minimal rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 05:33 AM
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Rule 1, Rule 2. Thanks for playing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 05:29 AM
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Separatism like building a commune to live in is extremist, but just being unmarried shouldn't come across as extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 11:54 PM
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The Impact of Marriage on How Much Men Work | Richmond Fed
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 11:38 PM
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You have self-identified as married, which is not "going your own way". What women are you speaking on behalf of?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 11:37 PM
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There's nothing wrong with going your own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 11:12 PM
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Dating app social experiments, which this site routinely bans the evidence of, have shown that even conventionally unattractive women get showered with male attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 11:12 PM
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In a world of thirsty men, be a cactus
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 11:10 PM
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Across all categories, men work more hours than women do in paid employment. Persons at work by occupation, sex, and usual full‐ or part‐time status : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 11:10 PM
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It is not child support, it is ersatz alimony. Similar to how Disability is ersatz welfare.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 09:26 PM
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I find it very hard to give a serious response to an obvious bait poast that appears to justify degenerate behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 09:24 PM
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It means rejecting the "Women are Wonderful" default setting of mainstream society.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 09:06 PM
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The federal poverty level for a "single individual" is 15K USD. Large numbers of low-status jobs pay double that. You will not live well on this, but you will be able to afford vidya. Many single mothers also work in these jobs, and as you obviously can't raise children on 30K USD, they receive myriad govt benefits and may have a judgement proof deadbeat dad. Many fempoasters sound analogous to the hated Baby Boomer "bootstraps" advice on personal finance.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 08:58 PM
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Even in these heavily censored parts, women poasters are a bit averse to shaming men into the worst options of dating overweight single mothers, even while being fit and financially stable yourself. But if you look at revealed preferences, it is clearly what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 08:25 PM
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The system as we know it doesn't work without men in a grindset. The post-modern West is trending towards a system of winner-take-all economics and winner-take-all relationships. Plenty here will spare no extent condemning the former, but will be aghast that women's choices result in the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 08:23 PM
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Women ime are very averse to being perceived as "shallow". Additionally, women benefit from men expending effort even if said individual men don't benefit from it. It's why they don't block the simps on social media, they don't push off men that friendzone themselves, and they never tell a below average man to go his own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 08:15 PM
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It's not benevolent sexism, it is the "bare minimum"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 07:56 PM
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Many people are just not relationship material.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 07:27 PM
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Go your own way
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 06:15 PM
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Ick
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 06:07 PM
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I consider that I am blaming women for their actions, and demonstrating that this has effects on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 05:35 PM
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Furries are degen and should be ruthlessly suppressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 05:34 PM
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That's your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 05:34 PM
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If men aren't attractive to women where are single mothers coming from? Finance is one part of the spectrum of attractiveness to women, there are other factors. Men deficient in the former, might be enabled in other factors. That said, it is generally a minority of men that are deadbeats to multiple women. Sure it would be nice to blame these men, but you can't necessarily jail them, and doing things like suspending their Driver License makes them less able to pay support. In effect, the larger …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 05:25 PM
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Welfare states primarily support three classes, the elderly, the disabled and the single mothers. Many states can't get the biological father to maintain an appropriate level of support. This is then made up with programs funded by taxation. And men are net taxpayers, while women receive more in public service than they pay in taxation. The net effect is a growing population of "male losers" that are economically unattractive to women, while still paying 1/4 to 1/3rd of their income in tax. Fami…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 05:08 PM
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The issue of feminism in our times is that it affixes costs to below average men, and then denies doing it. Its unstated goal is to privilege women over men in nearly all spheres of life, except that which women have no interest in (most blue collar employment). That said, the earlier Victorian era of feminism did much to raise the human dignity of the female sex, and should be applauded. Some economist once said that "capitalism exists by the consent of its losers". The same can be said for any…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:52 PM
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Today's dose of shaming language just arrived.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:20 PM
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I did not say men have to accept promiscuity. It is the logical conclusion of your post. You don't want insecure men to impose social shaming on other women for being promiscuous. And you don't advocate that women police each other either. A more honest explanation would say that men of a certain age have to accept a promiscuous past, or else be content with being single. That's what I did. But it is not applicable to all age blocs. Your explicit goal here is to minimize the costs of female prom…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 07:15 AM
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Rule 1 and Rule 2
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 07:07 AM
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if I never got you at your best then why should I put up with you at your worst? Because she has the leverage, and you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 07:06 AM
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After the weaponization of "weird" last year, I cannot be trusting when the phrase "obsessed" is used here. Any use of "insecure" is going to be perceived as shaming language.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 07:03 AM
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Subversive take. Another rationalization hamster trying to shame men into accepting promiscuous disparity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 07:00 AM
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Heads I win, Tails you lose Slut for me, Incel for thee Marx in the streets, Ayn Rand in the sheets
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 03:56 AM
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Ultima Ratio Regum
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 03:04 AM
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Man calls out women for being sluts, hoes mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:27 AM
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The struggling men aren't there because of "muh personality", they are there because the dating-app system transfers market leverage to women. You want to play a game where men can be blamed as failures for a skill issue, rather than being disliked for immutable characteristics.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:12 AM
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Blade Runner style Replicants are what commerce has to supply here. And the technological barrier isn't met yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:41 AM
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The sacred cow here is that people want to embolden female promiscuity, under the presumption that it is without consequence or somehow the fault of unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:33 AM
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You can legally use the services of professionals in countries like the Netherlands, Germany and Australia. But these same issues exist there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:28 AM
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Gender equality is a social construct maintained by the state with force of arms. It does not exist in the state of nature. And as Terminators don't exist yet, it is still predominantly men upholding the state monopoly. Your ideas are a luxury belief that comes from the state taxing the labor of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:25 AM
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If you don't accept rampant income inequality, does it not follow that perhaps rampant dating inequality is also bad. Apparently not here, Marx in the streets, Ayn Rand in the sheets.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:15 AM
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You are engaging in a colonizer mindset. You won't allow conservatives to define by and for themselves what their own ideas are. You are entitled to speak on behalf of yourself and your faction, but you cannot erect a strawman and engage in rhetorical ventriloquism.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 05:21 AM
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We live in a society. The OP, and other such as I, are arguing that men individually and collectively can benefit from a cartel that restricts thirst.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 05:04 AM
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Provided that the desperate guy is willing to lower their standards to date an out of shape woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 05:00 AM
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There are exercise forms that women find more attractive than bodybuilding. Team/Outdoor sports, which come across as "prosocial". Weightlifting is "antisocial" and "toxic" coded. Never, ever, ever take up fishing as a hobby. They resolutely despise the fisherman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 04:56 AM
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The magic conch shell says "nothing"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 04:48 AM
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In a world of thirsty men, be a cactus.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 04:47 AM
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Non-Defense Discretionary Spending is a trivial sliver of the US Federal Budget, that draws inordinate attention to its size. It is also the easiest politically to cut, not an entitlement and not defense. It is not an unreasonable ask that the grant ecosystem be devolved to state governments. Nor should it be a surprise that conservatives don't favor being taxed to support programs run by those of the opposing faction.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 04:47 AM
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Leftist pro-migrant policy imports large numbers of low-skilled male migrant workers, which results in increased rents and decreased wages adjusted to inflation. No, you don't get a sauce. Monsieur Trudeau was driven out for this, its all the evidence we need.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 04:38 AM
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This is a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 04:33 AM
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This is the "Syndrome Fallacy", when everyone is special, no one is. DEI only works as a zero-sum gambit, otherwise its just typical marketing pablum.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 04:31 AM
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That's the problem of "not yours, just your turn". And a fatal flaw of the entire system from a civilizational perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 11:53 PM
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In what world do average men not date, get married, have kids, etc? Prehistoric Times, possibly for a sizeable minority of Millennials and maybe even a majority of Gen Z.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 11:32 PM
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And if that is the case, I still fail to see how RP prevents you from getting these things. I believe the TRP sidebar says to never get married. While there is "Married Red Pill", I presume that the sidebar is the authoritative text.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 11:30 PM
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I am not saying shame can never be a motivator, but I think these cases are far and few between. Cancel Culture would never have been a thing, and the near-trillionaire wouldn't have needed to buy Twitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 11:28 PM
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That's an accidental argument in favor of Blue Pill, 1/5 succeeding is a far lower rate of success than the 1/2 marriages that end in divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 11:27 PM
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Heads I win, tails you lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 11:26 PM
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A sizeable minority of men are harmed in the marketplace by using RP methods, because they come across as "posers", they would be better off running beta game.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 11:25 PM
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At a time when other subs of this site are insta-banning anyone that doesn't froth about the imminent Elo n takeover, and justify violating federal law by obstructing La Migra... We have people here that want to gleefully presume that the Sexual Revolution will not have any consequences nor devour its children.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 11:01 PM
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I'm here to argue about philosophy in the context of dating relationships with internet strangers. I'm not here to thirst and effortpoast into some woman's DMs in the hopes of getting a crumb of pussy. Any fool that calls themselves and incel is just too prideful to use a professional and too degenerate to be voluntarily celibate. It's indisputable that there were legion of incels that joined Daesh and committed industrial levels of sexual violence and vividly documented it. And thankfully most …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 10:48 PM
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It is beneath contempt to bully the mentally ill, and she's not the first woman poaster I've encountered here that has done it. I've seen it happen in the reverse among TRP and Migtau communities, but those got quarantined or banned. The daily bile of bog standard 2X, that's a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 10:34 PM
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^ Anecdotal evidence that cannabis does indeed fry your brain and make you lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 10:21 PM
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"Nothing ever happens", what tripe. The revolution that creates a totalitarian state offers up a window for advancement for the types of people that are disenfranchised in post-industrial developed countries. The regime is often desperate for those deranged enough to repeatedly commit torture in their secret police. We've known them by the names NKVD, Scutz staffel, Red Guards, Pasdaran, Talib, Daesh, Hamas. And sadly we will know even more before we perish from this Earth. There is no arc of pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 10:20 PM
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It is not a fantasy, I saw the rise of the Arab Spring happen in real time until it ended in the horrors of Daesh. We got to see liveleak after liveleak of what happens when you have millions upon millions of disenfranchised young men. I'd prefer to avoid that in Western societies and change things through peaceful constitutional methods.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 10:08 PM
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You underestimate the state's coercive powers at your peril. You've grown used to owning the institutions since the 1960s and cannot mentally conceive of someone else running them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 10:00 PM
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Spoken from someone with limited experience of low trust and authoritarian societies. And the more you decay society into the former, you shall reap the whirlwind of the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 09:51 PM
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It's not everyday that we get the unadulterated truth, but here it is as the elephant in the room. This bile is enough to give Vance two terms of his own.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 09:44 PM
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We KNOW you're lonely and outside of romantic relationships, you don't really get closeness to anyone. We KNOW you're in pain. We don't give a shit. Get used to losing elections, a lot of elections.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 09:42 PM
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If we can speak of "The Bitter Pill" there isn't much of a way to do this other than religion. And this site and community is rather infamous for despising religion to a hilarious level.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 09:39 PM
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The purpose of the system is what it does. What the OP is doing here is posting a "gotcha" to make you accept prior promiscuity because you don't want to be pegged. Heads I win, tails you lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 02:09 AM
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While I lack any "studies have shown" about this, I suspect that most men would not agree to being pegged by a woman even several numbers above their own presumed RMV. Speak for yourself here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 02:07 AM
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We live in a society where being physically fit is seen as a fair trade for the overweight. And where a UC Berkeley Computer Science grad is supposed to accept being replaced by a cheaper H-1B and go work at Panda Express.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 11:09 PM
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Anecdotes are not data, that said. This is another indication that "just lift bro", a standard TRP maxim, doesn't really work in the way intended. There's nothing wrong with weightlifting, it is useful exercise. Beyond weight loss, it doesn't do much to increase attractiveness with women, and if anything team sports or outdoor activity like hiking/climbing are more favored by women. This is the most pernicious effect of the Tinder system, because it destabilizes all relationships as long as wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 11:07 PM
2

What are "Situationships" for $200
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 10:56 PM
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Anecdotes are not data
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 10:55 PM
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Average in the context of this community should almost always be read as "below average". And even if it only means 1/5 to 1/3rd of men, it is still a significant problem that risks societal instability.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 10:54 PM
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The "hyper focus on beauty" wasn't a legacy of the Second World War, it was a legacy of the fall of communism. There were large number of men that died due to disease and alcoholism, and there was also some emigration by "mail order brides". I suspect that cosmetics and fashion were not what Joe Stalin wanted in the postwar USSR, he would have seen them as "capitalist decadence".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 10:48 PM
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Stop. You are engaging in subversion. Being a simp is toxic behavior, because it pedestalizes women, rather than seeing them as people. Those insults, and "beta" is not always intended as an insult, are not attacks against kindness. Being a "cuckold" involuntarily is a humiliation, but voluntarily is degenerate. You are here to subvert men into a subordinate position, by casting them as abusers if they ask for women to be accountable as men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 04:04 AM
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The spark of the Arab Spring was an unemployed man burning himself alive because he was victimized by a female police officer that was retaliating at him for not paying a bribe.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 03:29 AM
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Social Darwinism, but make it woke
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 03:08 AM
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This is very good.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 03:04 AM
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It's common to level "choose better" at men who raise concerns about paternity fraud and divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 03:04 AM
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Imo, the OP wants an ersatz religion, but doesn't want the "patriarchal baggage"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 03:03 AM
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In the criminal justice system, the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups: the police who investigate crime, and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. Therapy is not the criminal justice system.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 03:02 AM
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I think what they want is for men to ostracize other men for being abusers, even though this is typically behavior that occurs outside of public view. To make it "uncool".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 03:00 AM
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32% of women rated cosplay as attractive. So it's not completely unpopular. It has higher popularity than Alcohol, Tobacco but not Firearms (which is disliked by 40%). So there is still a female audience that possibly numbers in eight figures that has some interest in male cosplayers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:37 AM
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To the extent that there are malleable factors that make men less attractive, there could be a role for public policy in discouraging them. I don't think that is lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:28 AM
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I think that depends a lot on physical characteristics and SES. "Confident" in some men is going to be read by some women as "tryhard".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:22 AM
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I'm not detecting much "social desirability bias" that would produce Blacksmithing as desirable. Presumably we could create a mechanism for measuring the effectiveness of learning the guitar vis a vis bodybuilding, and measure the efficacy on a population scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:21 AM
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We don't put cigarette-style warning labels on products connected with unpopular male hobbies. But maybe we should. WARNING: This product is known to the State of California to cause Involuntary Celibacy in Males heh
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:15 AM
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The Most And Least Attractive Male Hobbies - Date Psychology What the OKC study was for the 2010s, this is for the 2020s.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:06 AM
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Consider that most men in Western countries behave in ways that women don't like. They are often overweight, they have less credentials, they care less about hygiene, they have disliked hobbies, and worst of all they vote for the wrong political parties. Most young men aren't trying to signal their eligibility to be an "equal partner in marriage".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:52 AM
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What a few others and I have called "beta game", is not an unsuccessful path. Albeit it is a slow path, and only more efficient than TRP depending on stature and goals. I think most people severely underestimate potential cultural differences abroad, and many are also going to be trapped for a green card.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:48 AM
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What is "consent" ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:45 AM
2

The issues are systemic, which are even less appealing of a change than what is inside.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:44 AM
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Then they're shocked when women actually prefer the man that has enough of a spine to not hide his true opinions, and strives for his goals. This is the basic flaw of TRP thinking, that repeats the basic flaw of TBP thinking; men aren't unsuccessful by and large because of malleable personality factors. Being an "asshole" doesn't work anymore than being "nice" does, but one should be nice regardless of outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:43 AM
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In spite of my flair, which is not ironic, I am not really aiming here to alter women's perspectives more than vis a vis men. It's nice if it happens, but my target is male lurkers. However, I do care quite a bit about what is socially accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:37 AM
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The Public and Online Dating in 2024 - SSRS Given that only 41% reported "net satisfaction"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:33 AM
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Tinder Experiments II: Guys, unless you are really hot you are probably better off not wasting your time on Tinder — a quantitative socio-economic study | by worst-online-dater | Medium
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:31 AM
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Is Dating Behavior in Digital Contexts Driven by Evolutionary Programs? A Selective Review - PMC
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:30 AM
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Without paying for the services of professionals, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 12:48 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 12:46 AM
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The only way that an app can be successful for its male userbase is to impose "face control" like a nightclub in Moscow, Russia. This would almost certainly violate anti-discrimination laws in every Western country, and would exclude probably more than 98% of men. So it would be OligAPP
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 03:18 AM
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No women don’t have a lower libido, but they are more likely to assume that the average heterosexual intimacy is not going to satisfy them and they are more likely to be singly by choice than men. Gender differences in sex drive: Reply to Conley and Yang (2024) - PubMed Sex differences in sex drive, sociosexuality, and height across 53 nations: testing evolutionary and social structural theories - PubMed An empirical investigation of the roles of biological, relational, cognitive, and emotional …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 02:44 AM
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In a world of thirsty men, be a cactus
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 02:42 AM
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There's literally a sub called "Tinderdata" that says otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 02:36 AM
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Would we as a planet be better off by banning apps? Probably Anyone with a modicum of internet access should get educated on why they are a "pay to win" scam.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 02:30 AM
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Vice President Pence’s “never dine alone with a woman” rule isn’t honorable. It’s probably illegal. | Vox It was not Mr. Pence that made that statement, it grew out of the imagination of a left-wing journalist. Whether it happened or not is questionable. Afiak, Pence has never been hit with even a single allegation, while Trump, Biden and both Clintons have been hit with a multitude. While on a personal level, I don't like Mr Pence, I find the criticism of his actions to be highly sectarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 01:03 AM
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Eggs are expensive, Sperm is cheap /thread
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 12:52 AM
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MI Woman Gets Sentenced to 5Yrs for Filing False Rape Charge If you go back to the 90s, there was the infamous Tawana Brawley case that involved Al Sharpton.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 12:34 AM
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What is power to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 12:07 AM
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Ostracism, loss of face, lower social capital
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 11:51 PM
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On the off chance that the boss somehow recorded it, well, so what?? Nobody is going to do anything to me anyways. It’s not like anybody cares if a woman falsely accuses a man. Not a lawyer, or anywhere near it, but I believe this is called extortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 11:50 PM
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That man was elected to represent everyone, not just men, and women felt a real fear that he would govern with his stupid conservative religious agenda in mind rather than represent the people. At least he didn't go around violating the personal space of women, like another recent occupant of that office.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 11:45 PM
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Men are called creeps or misogynists when they are being creepy and misogynistic. 🙄 I mean, surely, no women abuse this power. That's obviously never happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 11:41 PM
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-It didn't happen -You deserved it -It will happen again Not just for nation-states.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 11:35 PM
1

And yet Rolling Stone magazine had to invent an incident out of whole cloth.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 11:23 PM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 11:22 PM
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Its the typical Plebbit way
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 11:20 PM
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Usually the accusation itself is enough to cause considerable damage in the court of public opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 05:15 AM
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Contra: Notice how many celebrities have made considerable sums of money from selling cosmetics and fragrances. How much of that market is being bought and consumed by males? If average women did not spend so much time concerned about appearances, the Kardashian family would have used up their 15 minutes of fame when OJ was found not guilty.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 01:19 AM
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He apologized to cats.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 01:14 AM
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No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service I'm fairly sure I've seen this at many an accursed restaurant of rapid consumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 01:11 AM
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What are these deeply unpopular ideas that men advocate for? Paper Abortions, Age Gap Relationships, PUA, repealing the 19th Amendment to the US Constitution. On this site, any political opinion to the right of former British PM David Cameron is probably unpopular.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 01:07 AM
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Yes Excessive work leads to premature aging, which carries a looks penalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 12:08 AM
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but relationships are completely optional. Optional may not be the best description. "Obligation" should be considered as well. Something that can apply to both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 11:48 PM
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I wouldn't agree it fades fast considering plenty of people in their 30s and 40s look great. Margot Robbie is 34. She is a celebrity in the top 0.1% of looks and income, with a nine figure net worth. She has dedicated personal trainer, nutritionist, and probably lots of "the help". I have no idea if she has received botox, surgery or other cosmetic treatments, but they are supposedly common with Hollywood. Comparing that to the typical working class women/man her age, we're ngmi.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 11:34 PM
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You are creep shaming because of an "ick". Now, I happen to agree with this. But we shouldn't dress it up as something it is not. It would be better off if shaming the higher male preference for socially undesirable age gaps was presented as a way to aid younger men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 11:29 PM
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No. The empowerment narrative is an attempt to change the way society values women. It's not a smokescreen to hide the insecurity, we know it's there. It's not a secret. We hate it. We want to change it, so that's what we're trying to do. This is a constructivist fantasy trying to override biology with ideology. I won't go to the point of calling it theology, though that would be a more effective route to the desired goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 11:23 PM
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Male entitlement is policed, often literally. Female entitlement is rarely policed, and indulged all too frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 11:10 PM
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Being realistic about the futility of age gaps for older men means; admitting that all the "self improvement" will move your options from "fat single moms" to "mid single moms" and not even "fit single moms". That isn't going to sell. So there's this delusion that you can pursue a sorority girl while being over the Male Wall. Which the various "guru" need to grift. Or you can just go your own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 11:08 PM
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Another day in "PurplePillDebate" err..BluePillHugbox
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 09:29 PM
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No good deed goes unpunished
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 04:17 AM
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There's not much here in the prompt to go on. It's not even getting an E for Effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:27 AM
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2023 Demographic Differences in Federal Sentencing | United States Sentencing Commission
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:20 AM
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Fight Fight Fight
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:34 AM
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Not me, the previous poaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:25 AM
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Tl;dr you gave the ick. Which is transmissible through text. Do you know what was said to me once: "that being treated well isn't a prerequisite when it comes to sex and she isn't going to give me that just because I treat her well". Wew lad, you dodged a bullet.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:19 AM
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From a secular perspective concerned with maximizing utility, sure. But we should remember that people are irrational, and to the deprived, any access may lead to utter whipping to keep it going for fear of future deprivation. From a varied religious perspective, there would need to be accountability on her part, especially considering this outlier-tier disparity (but given the large population size, is enough to accommodate large internet phora)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:03 AM
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Males receive a social penalty for declaring a negative female preference, sometimes even a positive female preference (usually called a fetish). In PUA speak this would be called a DLV, in feminist speak this is called an "insecurity".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:54 AM
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No thanks, I don't want the Poz
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:42 AM
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Your argument is just a method to deny males the status of being the victim of female choice in dating markets. From the male perspective, "bad" is better than "none at all".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:34 AM
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This is a fundamental anatomical difference between the sexes. A rough equivalent would be the female expecting to be "wined and dined", but leaving the male with "blueballs". But I suspect most women would call this "male entitlement".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:24 AM
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The male counterpart behavior is typically disdained as "lovebombing".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:20 AM
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^ Female entitlement isn't policed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 12:53 AM
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Pete Davidson is 6'3", and publicly praised by other celebrities for another anatomical anomaly. But its obviously because he's the supreme jesterman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 12:32 AM
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Notlikeothergirls
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 12:21 AM
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There is a large scale conventional war going on in Eastern Europe. Neither side is conscripting women. Hundreds of thousands of men have been drafted and died, even more have been wounded. They will return to a society with less social welfare support than the oft-derided US Veterans Administration and in a culture notorious for rampant consumption of vodka. Meanwhile lots of women from these countries are basically disloyal and selling themselves in Dubai etc. While unlikely, it is not out of …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 12:20 AM
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Most men don't have options. Economics is measured at the margins, and so is relationship economics. The marginal male will be paired with a marginal female of a higher N count. In some cases it will be male n=0 with female n>5. We can say how bad it is to avoid women with the baggage of promiscuity or worse single motherhood. But the dismal science tells us that some men have bad options, or the option of going their own way. So we should help them make the best of their options.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 12:13 AM
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I can't imagine the FDS types praising the "reformed pornsick men".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 12:09 AM
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This seems to be a false dichotomy combined with wish fulfillment. It only works if you goals are just hedonism, with no desire for family formation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 12:08 AM
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If you are at all politically liberal then this is almost certainly not the case. The more the population declines the more it becomes dominated by the people who actually have kids - and they are exactly the type that most people on this board hate. It will probably also coincide with a significant drop in surplus value which lower standard of living, less healthcare, less education etc. While the "Roe Effect" seems simple and logical, it is questionable as to whether it has been observed in re…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:45 PM
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The kindler gentler societies of the past created concepts like monasticism to alleviate this, the rest of them engaged in warfare.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:35 PM
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Large age gaps have been taboo for a millennia inside the "Hajnal Line", which is the cultural origin for most of the audience here. And even for those not of this origin, said culture imposed itself linguistically and otherwise on other cultures. They also show the complete absence of intra-male solidarity. Writ large, they lead to manifest social instability, particularly when combined with polygamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:33 PM
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Currently our problem is overpopulation. In the developed countries, this is not the case. Several developed countries have been below replacement fertility since the 1970s. High fertility rates persist in a few regions of the developing world, with various subversives wanting to transfer this population. But even many developing countries are below replacement fertility. In spite of rather low housing costs in Japan, they still have fewer children. Plenty of people here have intensively negativ…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:27 PM
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Eating the seed corn smh
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:19 PM
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Ideas like yours permit me to understand why foreign societies are so censorious.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:16 PM
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This planet already has more people than it can sustainably support. Get some more planets.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:11 PM
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Third World inv...immigrants.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:10 PM
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Nordic countries operate under some of the highest levels of taxation, and one of them is a petrostate. Even more largesse means punitive taxes on single (men). It is more viable to just copy the Israeli model of conscription, governmental support of religion; even of the extreme variety. Topped off with near constant warfare. Well, that doesn't sound so good either. Perhaps the cure is worse than the disease.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:08 PM
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Why do the young men get a short stick? Young men commit a disproportionate share of the crime in society. While they may not always have the connections to lead a political revolution, they do often have the time to be participants thereof. From simple biomechanics, they are the most physically potent members of society. So suspicion cast on them is warranted, the problem is that it is often uniquely punitive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 09:39 PM
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It’s to create a space where their concerns are heard without judgment and where growth is encouraged, not demanded through contempt. Anything less isn’t progress—it’s just the same cycle of dismissal, dressed in different colors. In order for this to work it, it needs to be a "male space" and not a "male studies" space that is proctored by feminists. In traditional societies, this was the role of religion, which this site has long held an almost hilarious stance against.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 08:41 PM
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Inability to go their own way
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 02:46 AM
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They do feel threatened by johns. Probably correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 11:22 PM
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In some cases they might be fearing competition, but in other cases it is just about power to deny men writ large who give them the "ick". This is not a terribly new behavior, ostracism has been found in many cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 11:20 PM
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You can have an opinion, you just can't verbalize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 11:19 PM
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STD testing, which should be just as normalized as paternity testing. People could also insist on honesty, crazy right.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 11:18 PM
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Why bother when you could just go your own way
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 11:17 PM
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*Volcel
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 11:14 PM
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The failure of the war was enabled long before when the option of regime change in the North was ruled out. Nixon actually was willing to mine the Port of Haiphong, for which LBJ was unusually too chicken.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 11:41 PM
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My boy Nixon did neither, got framed by the CIA, and look what they did to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 11:36 PM
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What are specific examples of this "technology"? Social media, dating apps, internet pron, progressive credentialism, student loans, McMansions You're not doing a lot to make it not sound that way.... I don't recall threatening to arrest or bankrupt a woman for not dating/marrying a man they aren't interested in. I do favor arresting and bankrupting those caught in adultery.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 10:21 PM
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^
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 10:10 PM
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Force women to date then they don't want? Did I suggest doing this? And how would I do it? I can suggest "ban technology that raises women's standards to an unreasonable level" If you want to characterize that as "force women to date men they don't want" then that is your prerogative.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 10:09 PM
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Claiming it is about "personality" is a cope designed to avoid looking/feeling shallow. It also allows for the shaming of unsuccessful men as personal moral failings, rather than other conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 10:05 PM
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Andrew Tate is a dual US/UK national, but most of his work and criminal activity occurred in the UK or in Romania.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 10:04 PM
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It is highly aberrant and illegal that a forced marriage could exist in a developed country, outside of some strange cults. Further, while there are arranged marriage patterns that exist in some Asian countries, these are extremely unusual in a Western country and still consensual. We can presume that marriage involved the agreement of both parties. Further, it should be noted that "conservative" can apply to many different religions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:58 PM
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Call it privilege all you want, but it wins elections more often than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:54 PM
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Some gender is more equal than the other. There is a strong correlation between self-declared feminism and tertiary credentials. (Perhaps ironically, I have one) The public sector has for years had more emphasis on tertiary credentials than most of the private sector, and nearly all of the blue-collar sector. There is a lot of resentment from a woman with postnominals that a "FinanceBro" and a "TechBro" have more money and status than they get in the public sector. This is accelerated if the "Br…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:52 PM
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The grind is not for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:43 PM
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The majority of conservative men Are already married.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:41 PM
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"I want to help you, I really do, but I can't" That's the subtext of what you are saying, otherwise giving a bootstraps argument that is normally despised on this site when it comes to finance. The state interferes in the material economy all the time, and it interferes in the relationship economy all the time. The state has rigged the game in favor of women, and left a growing minority of men to shoulder the costs. There is nothing written that this must always be so.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:37 PM
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Neoliberal take
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:31 PM
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High standards are only worthwhile if you can enforce them, which most of those reading cannot. When it comes to most men here, if they want to be partnered they have to keep lowering their standards of attractiveness, while raising the standard of their own behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:30 PM
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Degen
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:26 PM
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The developed, post-industrial, world is a feminine-primary society. This is what 80% (the unattractive, the marginal, the mid) inhabit, while 20% (the attractive) are able to set their own terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:26 PM
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In a world of thirsty men, be a cactus
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:22 PM
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2X isn't banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:20 PM
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A community that condemns relationships, that posts negative information about why not to be in a relationship. One tends to follow the other. It smacks of entitlement that outsiders assert the right to tone police people they don't agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:17 PM
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It might well have kept Gore and Hillary out of the Oval Office.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:15 PM
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In the outcomes. Women seem very concerned that they need to be 50% or more of the F500 Executives, and 50% or more of the political class, and that men need to be doing 50% or more of the domestic labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:03 PM
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Gender Equality is a foundation of the developed world, and isn't going away barring a horrific decline in living standards to the preindustrial era.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:01 PM
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This is a debate forum, not a hugbox. You are getting angry at men...for being angry. You have played yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 08:46 PM
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Lenin fits almost no common definition of "alpha male".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 12:17 AM
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And here we see the Rasputin, tomorrow the Revolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:52 PM
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Time for the IRS to take what's theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:50 PM
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The WEF of dating: You will have no bitches and be happy. That's the only option for unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:40 PM
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Rule 1. Be Attractive Rule 2. Don't be unattractive If you are most of the single men here poasting or lurking, you are probably violating these rules. Stay in your lane. Go your on way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 10:14 PM
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I think your real concern is about the status of the man involved. If was high status, I think you'd find ways to excuse it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 09:43 PM
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I think you are just using the language of "consent" to dress up a visceral "ick" for low status men engaging in sexual behavior. I don't think you really care about consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 09:39 PM
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You have claimed in other poasts that men using professional services are "Dark Triad", and that using these services is indicative that a man is of bad moral character because he doesn't care about female consent. I am merely extrapolating this to believe that you oppose things that men do that don't or minimally involve a physical woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 09:29 PM
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Or you can just drop out and go your own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 09:23 PM
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There's nothing inherently wrong for admitting that it is about physical characteristics, you don't need to explain everything in the constructivist method.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 09:22 PM
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Average in the context of this community in the context of women means "above average". When said by a man in this community it means "below average". Rarely to never does it mean the median or modal unit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 09:19 PM
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It's fair, for the same reason as men want to have paternity testing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 09:17 PM
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Someone doing it to afford luxuries should be hit with a "luxury tax"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 09:16 PM
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If mass automation and AI created enough wealth for UBI, I highly doubt that many woman would work as professionals.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 09:16 PM
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There are men of high status that utilize the service of professionals. Some infamous actor once said that they were "paying her to leave". But the inherent violence in the sex trade is not really the issue, I suspect, given negative reactions to the idea of a "sexbot". If there was not disproportionate violence involved, you would still be just as opposed, because you have a crypto-traditionalism of not wanting men to have sexuality without female consent. Which is actually a good thing, but we…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 09:14 PM
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Many in society accept the idea of forcing men to pay for women and receive nothing in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 09:10 PM
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Or he could just go his own way
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 09:07 PM
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Well, why should men intentionally defy social norms for their own amusement?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 09:05 PM
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Some people did try to set up a social club, but the club was infiltrated by an intelligence agency, was legally proscribed in Canada, got involved in voluminous rioting and now its leaders are in prison. Other people decided to sell snake oil to buy a McLaren. And they aren't yet in prison. But some of them might soon be. What would probably be most helpful to its audience is something like the 90s-era "Promise Keepers".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 02:58 AM
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The utter barrenness of postmodernity where "slut-shaming" is worse than being a "slut". Decadence must be purged.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 02:45 AM
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I reject your normality and substitute my own.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 02:40 AM
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Women do direct much of the criticism of "slut-shaming" at other women, but imo they are indifferent unless a woman is being promiscuous to otherwise low value men, or that another woman's promiscuity threatens the loyalty of their desired man's commitment. Women tend to be more sympathetic to the idea that professionals have a "right to be forgotten", and that "body count shouldn't matter".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 02:15 AM
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"Price Discrimination" is basic microeconomics.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 02:08 AM
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Men could "break the conditioning" and stop using dating apps, and start shaming other men for being thirsty. There are signs that these trends are occurring, and it should be encouraged. Women can help by issuing ultimatums for commitment/engagement/marriage/children.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 01:59 AM
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Eggs are expensive, sperm is cheap. / thread
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 01:43 AM
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Post-Industrial societies have resulted in socio-economic changes that have resulted in a lowering of the social status of some men relative to female peers. What in different societies or previous eras would have resulted in a "transactional relationship" or "killed in an industrial accident" or "killed on the battlefield" now results in being a unmarried NEET. Increased rates of singleness are statistically visible before the widespread adoption of smartphones and social media. The latter did …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 01:40 AM
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RP teaches the "true nature of women" and does not ipso facto presume the utility of "Game". It's odd, but you could be an "Anti-Game Red Pill". It doesn't lend itself to the salesman aspect that is common there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 01:34 AM
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Enthusiastic consent is a euphemism for retroactive revocation of consent. It's defenders want to lower the burden of proof in sexual assault cases. They may deny this, but that is due to the pushback the concept has received.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 12:05 AM
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I'm sorry, that's just the way it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:47 PM
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Maybe he should learn to cook healthier meals.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:43 PM
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Pursuing age gaps writ large is among the worst antisocial behaviors promoted in red pill communities. I get that its probably a bad idea for individual men to be a bailout for a single mother, but it is prosocial.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:37 PM
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Few women like to recognize that all relationships in the Tinder system have the power dynamic of a woman being able to easy secure a replacement within a short amount of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:29 PM
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Feelings don't care about your facts
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:27 PM
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Write the check, the horror
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:25 PM
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Gaps outside the 1/2+7 range are presumed toxic until proven otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:22 PM
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Narrator: He was a simp
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:16 PM
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But they can demand better treatment, and they can get it more often than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:12 PM
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It is probable that for some men, even at the recommended fitness level, that their market value is an overweight woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 02:47 AM
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Average in the context of this community means below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 02:46 AM
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For some "self-improvement" means cosmetic surgery, which tends to have a gender bias towards women. I do not encourage this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 02:44 AM
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Obesity lowers libido
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 02:43 AM
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That sounds like Big Tech, Biglaw partner, specialist physician money level. Which is a minute percentage of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 02:33 AM
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Yesterday's six figure is todays quarter mil
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 02:10 AM
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but no Security trumps looks for many women not all. This is highly dependent on the economic state of the country in question. As most poasters here are from either the US or Canada, or another developed country, this rarely occurs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 02:10 AM
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You are not entitled to tell me what my own beliefs are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 01:45 AM
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Who gave you a monopoly on ethics?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 01:39 AM
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Because the government has a military and a justice system to impose force on those that disagree. But yet what stops another government from declaring misandry and childfree as hate speech, if the KGB officers running that government decide it that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 01:15 AM
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Unmarried young women in developed countries tend to be on the left side of the left/right political divide. In the more polarized societies, women will reject a relationship with a male that displays right wing politics. Further, given that left politics is more attractive to the non-heteronormative, there is a shortage of "non toxic" left progessive heterosexual males.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 01:10 AM
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But the term "hoohahpalooza" doesn't exist. Rarely is the advice explicitly targeted to tell men to take up the female dominated yoga and pilates instead of weightlifting. On a long enough time scale, the entry of lower tier men into such activities would drive many women out of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 01:06 AM
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It's fine if it comes from female community elders, but not from peer age men (who will present as a DLV)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 01:04 AM
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In the US context, have you taken the literal "Blue Pill". But since the US uses the reverse colors, most countries would call a LeftPill the "Red Pill".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 01:03 AM
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There are a couple countries that literally draft all young males and forcibly socialize them. But said countries have even lower fertility than the Western developed countries that are the most common background of poasters here. And the term "sausagefest" was coined for a reason. Playing "Magic the Gathering" in a group setting isn't likely to be attractive to any but a sliver of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 01:01 AM
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Blue are prone to just world fallacy and won't tell men immediately to lower their standards. It's implied. But many men seem to not pick up on this social cue.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 12:57 AM
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Personality type is much less malleable than you wish it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 12:56 AM
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That refers to a US Centric event. The same disparity is observed in countries where being anti-abortion is considered illegal hate speech.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 12:52 AM
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Sauce: trust me, bro The same standard many women want men held to on paternity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 02:47 AM
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Now apply that logic to women receiving any division of property in a divorce, or even having divorce be legal in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 02:43 AM
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It is my suspicion that those opposed to testing would prefer if women could openly engage in the dual mating strategy and suffer no market consequences. They fundamentally think that being a single mother should carry the exact same moral standing as that of a married mother; and that a woman should ideally be able to have a one sided open relationship and men should accept without complaint. Further, I suspect that some would prefer naked eugenics and prefer donor sperm. But they know that sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 02:42 AM
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Maybe we could police paternity fraud...by making it a crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 02:31 AM
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We live in a low trust society, and your response is "trust me, bro". Just to uphold the dual mating strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 02:30 AM
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It's the entitlement mentality at work. Men need to learn to "eat bitterness" as they say in China.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 10:06 AM
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South Korea, Taiwan and Singapore are notorious for low fertility. They do have low rates of divorce, and almost all births occur during marriage. iirc, Finland has the highest happiness rating, and has the longest draft in Europe (1 year). But it is shorter than its Asian counterparts. Finland is average to below average among birth rates in Europe. There is one country with a very high birth rate (but also rather high divorce) for a developed country, with the longest draft of all, even women.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 12:28 AM
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There are countries where the government drafts men into the military, where they are forbidden from being overweight and must be fit. Further, these men are forcibly socialized for a period of two years on average. Yet these same countries might have more toxic gender relations than is common in developed countries that don't have conscription.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 12:02 AM
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Most Britons support tighter restrictions on pornography - but men and women are divided, poll suggests | UK News | Sky News And apparently the UK is even more against than the US/CAN.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 11:53 PM
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Americans Say Birth Control, Divorce Most 'Morally Acceptable' (gallup.com) It's less accepted than gambling, but more accepted than polygamy. But the majority of the US polled expresses some opposition, even if we know that they might also be failing to restrict their own consumption. The poll didn't question whether producing/consuming was judged differently. Acceptability of Pornography and Prostitution Drops in Canada – Research Co. Apparently from this poll, Canada finds it more objectionab…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 11:51 PM
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Red Pill doesn't typically think that being "toxic" in the Dark Triad is bad, but I suspect that there is a revealed preference for women who do prefer "non-toxic". And for men of certain size dimensions, they pay a higher penalty for "toxic". Certainly for many men their advice is harmful, but they may lack the ability to go their own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 11:36 PM
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But they don't, and you probably still have to be fine with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 11:33 PM
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We live in a society.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 11:30 PM
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Orientalism has entered the chat
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 11:29 PM
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I don't typically see critics of the welfare state deride its defenders as "insecure" as if that is a flaw that must be overcome. I suspect they believe this, but are smart enough to not be self-defeating.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 11:27 PM
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Touc....Eat Grass
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 11:16 PM
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"Abusers at best, criminals on average, terrorists on the extreme". Never fails
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 11:15 PM
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Their advice isn't totally useless, it just won't deliver the desired results unless the student lowers their standards (considerably, for some). Most advice arguably can take years of grinding to achieve anything. One other problem is that Blue advice does make one vulnerable to exploitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 11:13 PM
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It's an exaggerated response, considering widespread obesity in the developed world.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 11:10 PM
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The majority of the population wouldn't be involved in production. Which doesn't see the same moral lens as consumption. it's a debatable assertion
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 10:58 PM
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The problem with bans is that it invites in organized crime, which itself does not automatically invalidate the usefulness of a ban; but should raise questions as to what society is willing to pay to enforce. There are not many anarchists that want plutonium and heroin to be freely available over the Internet. If you can't ban, you can regulate, unionize and tax. Likely impacts being the offshoring of production to developing countries, replacement of labor with AI. Another aspect of regulation …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 10:54 PM
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When it comes from feminists, its a crypto-traditionalism that is rearing its head. They don't want men to have sexuality apart from a woman. But they don't apply it to themselves. Call it unfair, but it has power behind it, more than can be said for its opponents.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 10:36 PM
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One alternative would be medicating men to drop their libido. Another, would be to exhaust them through work/activities. Caring about happiness is a very individualist concept, which not everyone agrees with. Without struggle, for some life does not have meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 10:33 PM
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But according to many women, don't touch a fishing boat, or at least never take a picture of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:13 PM
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Even many rural areas in a developed country have some kind of community sports facility. Rec league sports are common ime.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:11 PM
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Prolonged single young adults are a commonality between all developed countries regardless of continent, culture, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:10 PM
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The blue are prone to just world fallacy, so they don't finish with 4. Lower your standards. But a more realistic blue team would do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:08 PM
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A Survey of Modern Life: Outdoor Time | by Steve Downs | Building H | Medium Women are indoors much more than men: 45.4% of women spend 30 minutes a day or less outdoors, compared with only 29.1% of men. They’re 64% more likely to go outdoors for 15 minutes a day or less.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 10:34 AM
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Never said it would
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 03:30 AM
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Bros before hoes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 03:02 AM
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That may well be true, but it can also be irrelevant. Consider that the purpose of the system is what it does. The advice, if honestly adhered to, will result in lots of time being consumed on rather fruitless pursuits for perhaps years on end. But it should be noted that "fat acceptance" for men is not a Blue Pill pursuit, their advice would lead to men following it reaching a healthy BMI at some point; while generally disregarding lifting. Furthermore, they often promote therapy, and a shrink …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 01:12 AM
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New study reveals a long history of violence in ancient hunter-gatherer societies | Tulane University News
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 11:39 PM
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Ever heard of Otzi the Iceman? Neither of those three tyrants was from a hunter-gatherer culture. Surely you should know better.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 11:02 PM
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The typical blue piller views the red/black segments as abusers at best, criminals on average, and terrorists at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:41 PM
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Please read the OP again.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:16 PM
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That's fairly slim for a male living in a post industrial society. Most people in the developed world are overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:15 PM
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It's a more dignified state than pretending to be in a different sexual orientation or being attracted to anime characters.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:12 PM
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Humanity has experienced minor evolution to adapt to agrarian society, which is barely 10k years old at most. Industrial society is only 250 years old at most, and some societies have yet to industrialize. Most of history was spent in a violent hunter gatherer stage.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:10 PM
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Respect is bare minimum. Period. For you. And good for you. But I don't think that holds true for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:06 PM
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Female friends are "preselection" idk
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:03 PM
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In a world of thirsty men, be a cactus
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:58 PM
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There's nothing wrong with going your own way. Men should support other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:57 PM
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Respecting women doesn't make a male attractive. Disrespect may or may not make a male unattractive. In some odd cases it might even make a male appear more attractive. Women don't reward respect by the unattractive with pity. They typically see this as repulsive and I don't fault them for it. Respecting women should be a goal for men, but rewarded by esteem from elders and male peers, to set an example. But as a dating strategy it's 99% worthless and women encouraging this are creating confusio…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:54 PM
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It's plausible that if for whatever reason Ukraine's Parliament was to ban abortions, their financial support from the Western countries for this war against Russia would be swiftly cut off.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:41 PM
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Women show a statistically higher rate of ingroup preference. Gender differences in automatic in-group bias: why do women like women more than men like men? - PubMed (nih.gov)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:32 PM
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It is incumbent on men to counsel other men on this. That is part of my goals in this community. Many women poasters want this to be "BluePillHugbox" not a debate forum, some men would like it to be "BlackPillHatebox" but that is rightfully banned. The problem is that the former is coddled.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:29 PM
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That is one form of constructivism that doesn't go down well here. "Born this way" as a concept has decades of cultural force behind it, because of the logic that immutable characteristics are immoral to discriminate on, but malleable ones (backing the wrong political party) are valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:19 PM
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It's not as difficult for men to get platonic friendship from women, but they complain about this as a friendzone; instead they could just seek out friendship for its own sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:16 PM
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Even the low value men of society can physically overpower their female peers. And men commit about 90% of the violent crime. So women aren't going to see their legion of app matches as privilege, when they do have reasonable fears of violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:13 PM
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Blue pill advice isn't meant to work, its meant to spin a hamster wheel. Many women tend to be conflict-avoidant, and will say pithy platitudes rather than just tell a man to go his own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:11 PM
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As long as you don't use the verboten acronym, you might be ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:47 PM
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One doesn't need postnominals and university tenure to develop theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:18 AM
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It's a pink pilled belief imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 05:50 AM
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Both sexes have a dual mating strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 05:50 AM
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Women outnumber men in the developed countries population, and they have a higher voter turnout in most countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 05:49 AM
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There is a distinction between "blue pilled" feminism and "pink pilled" feminism. The idea of ruthless male competition is a pink pilled idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 05:45 AM
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Consolidation and expansion of a feminine-primary social order.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 05:44 AM
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I regret to inform you of something called "e-girls". There are indeed men who will adopt parasocial relationships and financial support. Not to mention AI girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 05:42 AM
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There's considerable implication by some that if a man gets cheated on, then he "got what he deserved" for some flaw. And many are die-hard constructivists that think society (women) determine who is given the status of father or not. And in some cases it may be driven to cover up and justify personal degenerate episodes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 05:17 AM
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It didn't happen, they deserved it, it will happen again.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 05:11 AM
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The problem is that when men get mad, it triggers a primordial fear response in women. It leads to the point being made getting ignored, and women doubling down on more feminism and additional censorship. That's why I prefer to be polite.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 09:08 PM
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Getting mad about it won't change their behavior. It probably makes it worse. Just go your own way, and be polite about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 08:58 PM
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It should be added to the sidebar "average in the context of this community means below average"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 08:51 PM
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Plenty of people think the suspicion of cheating is arguably worse than it happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 08:08 PM
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Looking at you, the government of France.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 08:07 PM
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Women good, men vibes bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 07:49 PM
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The far-left "antiworkers" would disappear within five minutes of the far-left gaining power.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 07:49 PM
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Most of the US federal spending is on mandatory programs, the entitlements known as Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid. Then we have the other mandatory spending of debt service. Most of the US allies underspend on defense, and there is no mechanism that doesn't infringe sovereignty which we could change that with. The non-defense discretionary spending, things like the National Parks and NASA, are quite small portions of the budget. But they are visible, so they consume inordinate amounts of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 07:47 PM
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The homeless are disproportionately male, not an accident.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 07:42 PM
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Because men aren't pursuing that 40-50% of women they find unattractive. Or aren't pursuing them with enough alleged respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 07:34 PM
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Maybe they want a concierge to help them select
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 07:33 PM
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Large numbers of men are broke, overweight and unwilling to adopt the certain cultural cues that women want. They need to work much harder to get anything. And if they do, they have to work hard to maintain it and never complain. Or, you can just go your own way. Be a volcel.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 07:33 PM
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Altruistic punishment
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 07:26 PM
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Individually, yes. Collectively, no. Women tend to be more conformist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 07:26 PM
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Communities like these attract the attention of the spooks. Who have a very large budget.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 07:24 PM
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I have it on good authority that men are more dangerous than bears. So surely we should regulate them just as stringently as a bear and the weapons to terminate one, if not moreso amirite?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:48 PM
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Imagine if people started feeling less beholden to the IRS.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:37 PM
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go your own way
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:28 PM
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Women have a statistically higher level of in-group preference. "Team Woman" is a thing, and they hate the slightest level of criticism. The downvotes bring the boys to the yard.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:23 PM
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It will be viewed as harassment if you don't follow Rule 1 and 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:21 PM
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I modeled the tests for accessing civil marriage, based on what your country uses as a test to legally access firearms. The bear and what what.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:09 PM
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Amazing how you suggest the mildest form of social conservatism and you get every otherwise left-leaning blue piller to freak about "government intervention" like they are Ayn Rand herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:52 PM
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Telling people they can't have something is often a good sales strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:48 PM
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The E part of DEI involves considerable redistribution of income.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:35 AM
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I don't think so, look into Case/Deaton on the "deaths of despair"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:33 AM
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Some call this "sublimation" or "transmuting" desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:14 AM
1

There is nothing I hate more about your sidebar than "enjoy the decline".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:09 AM
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We have a system that has been deregulated to near oblivion in terms of entry; but quite a lot of government involvement on exit. In Canada, I have heard that even cohabitation triggers palimony. So I suggest some modest restrictions to entry, to discourage far larger costs on exit. I am very skeptical that you can get total deregulation, as we are operating under a feminine-primary social order.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:08 AM
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Labor productivity is not evenly distributed. Nor is the incidence of tax liability. But many portions of the public sector are disproportionately female, and government policy has often coerces the private sector into filling HR positions and imposing DEI to hire/promote certain groups and not hire/promote other groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:05 AM
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Various government policies, in short referred to either as "Feminism" or "DEI", have given women an edge in earnings and social status. So they don't have to "settle" in choosing a spouse as may have occurred in previous generational cohorts. Even disregarding government policy, the level of development required to become an industrial/technological state obviates the need for agricultural labor in 99% of the population, and physical labor in still quite a large share of people. In labor econom…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:57 AM
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The occupations mentioned are overwhelmingly male.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:51 AM
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but do you not think exactly the same thing is true for women? I disagree that women are in a "free market".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:50 AM
10

The thirst...would no longer be real.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:48 AM
4

It depends on if the attention evokes pity or fear. Rarer still, if it only evokes humor.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:43 AM
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I agree, but I think it may not be advisable for most. I am surprised at how much I got dogpiled on by blue pilled women for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:38 AM
1

Put 12 different AIs on the jury Make Skynet the judge
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:00 AM
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idk, use an AI
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 03:40 AM
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Neither Bush II nor Trump tried to get Congress to add more seats to the lower courts or the US Supreme Court. Neither did Clinton nor Obama. The last minor addition of any seats was passed by Bush I and a Democratic Congress. "Packing" has been a recurrent concern since the time of John Adams. While FDR failed to "pack" the Supreme Court by expanding seats, since he served so long he was able to appoint a large number of judges; which is not packing by the colloquial definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 03:38 AM
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It's just another legalese that your class uses to pull the wool over the eyes of others. The people deserve to have the policies debated openly in the legislature at an 8th Grade English level. Quotas, points systems and personal statements are all different sorts of pablum that ignore the efficacy of test scores; which determine nearly all placements in many countries. And presumably in other countries you can use an explicit quota system. The US President in 1978, during the last major creati…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 03:17 AM
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Bakke banned an explicit quota system. Later court decisions allowed a de-facto quota system that operated "verbally" and "wink and nod". SFFA v Harvard still created a small loophole that the system will try to drive a supertanker through. An explicit quota system has the benefit of being honest, the 1978-2023 US System was dishonest and obscured its costs. And the American courts are rather easy to pack, assuming the political will exists in Congress, which last occurred in 1978 in the lower f…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 02:56 AM
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It was never about equality, it was always about revenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 02:41 AM
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We did. The only thing we could do to rig it in their favor would be to impose a "loser pays" system where the man (as women file 75%) has to cover the attorney's fees. That takes the "threatpoint" thesis that divorce is needed to coerce men into better behavior, and takes it up to 11. As befitting my flair, that sounds amusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 02:31 AM
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We don't live in a free society. We live in a welfare state, even if it is dysfunctional. We have a system that produces perverse incentives, so I am suggesting some ideas to align incentives with more desirable outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 02:24 AM
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The state's granting of a preferential tax status creates a necessity for intrusion. Marriage and family formation is much more of a communal activity than some might prefer. In a traditional society this is recognized, but modernity has ignored this to its detriment. So we have a free rider problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 02:12 AM
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How are character witnesses helpful in whether people should be allowed to get married or not? What if the family just does not like their partner and argues no on getting married If there is discord from the potential in-laws, that sounds like a red flag. Maybe there should be a speedbump before making a life-altering decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 02:02 AM
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Having the ceremony performed by a magistrate or cleric isn't going to change the outcome. Nor is having two ceremonies done by both. That just changes who writes what on a piece of paper. A religious ceremony doesn't co-opt the power of civil law, because several religions may make divorce difficult or forbidden, and also allow polygamy; neither of which will be recognized by a civil court in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:57 AM
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It depends on if we are talking about an "inquisitorial/administrative" tribunal or an "adversarial" tribunal. Our current system is basically "trial by combat". I was thinking that if the (super)majority of nominated character/expert witnesses said bad things about a pairing, that it would lead to a denial or telling them to return in another six months. We could also require a disclosure of credit scores.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:51 AM
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That is what much of the Blue crowd wants. And it's far more common in the mainstream subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:39 AM
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My suspicions have proven correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:33 AM
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Character references and premarital counseling isn't a luxury tax. It is my suspicion that opposition is rooted in a tribunal uncovering something unfavorable. A milder version of the anger displayed by some here to the idea of mandatory paternity testing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:24 AM
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60% is still an F in the letter grade system.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:19 AM
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I think the better comparison isn't to starting a business, but just professional licensing. I think this is less invasive that imposing a mandatory fault system for divorce. It's not exactly meant to be a "lemon law".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:17 AM
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I favor increasing the status of marriage via policy, to make it seem more attractive than being unmarried.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:09 AM
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Statistically iirc, it is men that get hit worse by divorce health wise, though they are also likelier to remarry (oof). There are several countries that do regulate junk food, soda, many countries mandate a maximum working time, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:08 AM
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As something around half of all marriages end in divorce, I'd say that's a good argument that many should have never existed and we should consider something to pre-empt this. I don't think lassiez-faire is working.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:02 AM
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Keeping incompatible people from marrying is a nudge against atomization. Divorce, and the children of divorce are a significant cause of atomization, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:57 AM
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The "devil's advocate" could presumably convince the tribunal that one party is a gold digger.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:55 AM
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Divorce has collateral damage.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:53 AM
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A couple nudges against social atomization.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:52 AM
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Bangladesh just had a coup d'etat to get rid of a hated quota system.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:50 AM
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I have heard some women say they want a dating app with criminal background checks, I am just taking it further, well a lot further. I don't think this is a reason for women to avoid men, it would be a process of gathering character witnesses and the opinion of expert(s). The idea of marriage as fully individualized is a recent concept near-exclusive to the Western lands.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:48 AM
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DEI is effectively a tax paid by members of certain groups, to give a subsidy to members of preferred groups. Spin it how you want, but when it comes down to brass tacks, that's what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:42 AM
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Ever heard of a "hobosexual" ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:39 AM
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I think there are some health related consequences from the stress of a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:38 AM
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Take away their vidya.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:35 AM
2

You need to understand that the implication of "late stage" is inherently a Marxist concept that will somehow inevitably lead to socialism and thus communism. Not all of us are Marxists. Some of us had relatives victimized by these systems.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:34 AM
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It is inherent to the state.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:33 AM
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If you look at the publicly traded dating app stocks, they are circling the drain. Looks like men are doing something.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:33 AM
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All the state needs to shut this site down is a few armed men to storm the server farm and pull the plug.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:31 AM
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Lower childhood obesity
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:30 AM
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Are some public sector jobs basically "patronage" ? Yes. How many is disputable
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:30 AM
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There's a difference between "desperate enough to approach in public" and "desperate enough to change religious affiliation".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:27 AM
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Obviously it's Putin's fault somehow
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:00 PM
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That's a good reason to raise taxes on the rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 08:42 PM
1

Have you tried helping a woman lose weight?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 08:41 PM
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New European law to require biggest porn sites to verify age | AP News This law in Europe was passed by an overwhelming margin of all blocs. It's similar to the laws being passed on the state level in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 08:30 PM
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Does "wokefishing" work? Probably has higher success than anything an influencer will sell you. But running this long con so far that you end up believing it...well that's a price many won't pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:35 PM
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This is cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:34 PM
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No amount of equivocating about the latter two will discourage criticism of the first. Know your place.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:32 PM
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There is a reason why many cultures have the "matchmaker" service. Expecting unsupervised young adults to spontaneously pair off, has too much inefficiency and danger.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:20 PM
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There are certain "liberal arts colleges" mostly in the Northeastern US, with these exaggerated ratios. Generally the province of wealthy parents, though some have very large endowments and aid. As these institutions are in small towns, in theory they should be "fish in the barrel", but they don't have this reputation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:17 PM
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The converse is the "kitchen bitch" insult to men nudged into assuming more domestic and childcare. There hasn't much been a "kitchen king" counter.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:14 PM
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I prefer to call that hate speech against future generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:13 PM
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Unmarried women are a keystone voting bloc of the left-liberal parties, so these parties are very much against anything that imposes costs on this group. When it comes to other groups, the concerns about autonomy lessen and eventually vanish. Incentives for family formation are almost by definition hetero-normative, and are biased towards the married, particularly the married men. Even Nordic policies of mandatory paternity leave are biased in this direction. What is not a keystone of the left-l…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:13 PM
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There's a difference between the liberalism of the masses "leave me alone, dude" and that of the elites (see Daniel Moynihan and Cass Sunstein). The latter is much more willing to use social engineering and the "nudge".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:05 PM
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There's a reason why Xi Jinping has suppressed these viewpoints, even when his predecessors mandated them. Acknowledging the reason will make people unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:00 PM
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The crime rates went down because we got rid of lead in the gasoline/petrol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:57 PM
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I suspect there are differences in the median female psychology that dissuades them from openly indicating rejection because of appearance. They may be afraid of a violent reaction. It is incumbent on men, with the encouragement of peers, to learn and accept their place. Just go your own way, stop being a try hard, and bitterness won't help either. Or you can lower your standards, again and again; and work harder. And learn to eat the bitnerness of the occassional nuclear rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:53 PM
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Social unrest is not "societal collapse". Try again. Countries like Argentina have experienced a fiscal wreck, and life went on with marginal interruption.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:49 PM
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If one thinks the OPs ratio is favorable, you can experience it at many institutes of higher education. But is it really that great? Or does it leave people with either personal debt, society with government debt and credentials that lack economic value?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:47 PM
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Post-industrial societies are facing a fiscal wreck because of the unmarried male population portion that isn't productive enough. Even in developing countries like Bangladesh, they contributed to the recent coup. Things like OnlySimps are a completely unproductive vice that only consumes wealth. To say nothing of those that might have heavy disputes for the causes funded by the management.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:44 PM
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Telling men in their early 20s that they need to get married asap if they want more than the average number of children is difficult to grift off. These men tend to be broke, you'd need to target their parents probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:33 PM
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Men do have a biological clock, but no one has found a way to monetize it yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:26 PM
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What's the underlying market failure? Failure to make affordable family formation. The costs of prohibition of alcohol and drugs always outweigh the costs The Singaporean experience seems to disagree. And that required price is, according to you, a massive state-engineered curtailment of bodily autonomy and sexual freedom for both men and women Such freedoms have only existed since the 1960s, and only in certain parts of the globe. Nothing is written that says they must be permanent. combined wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:27 AM
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Men seem to have a problem with lowering their standards. Like, much, much lower. But also raising the standards of their own behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:01 AM
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From a policy perspective, we could socially engineer a desired outcome. We can give larger tax credits to married with children, and thus create a de facto bachelor/spinster tax. We can limit/ban the "inferior goods" like professionals/pornography. We can create "FedDate" and make it the only legal dating app. We could place limits on screen time to force people to touch grass. "Tariffs" were an economist swear word for a while, always being condemned as a deadweight. But they are a political c…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:57 AM
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Large numbers of women are well aware of their primacy in relationships, and their reproductive monopoly, and they will jealously guard this from any low status men questioning it. It's probably for the best that men shouldn't poke the bear, after women have made it clear they chose the bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:50 AM
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And most women don’t have any desire to be as promiscuous For the average (below average) man. But this tends to change for a higher status man. It is difficult for average men to shame those men into monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:38 AM
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We accept innumerable forms of coercion already, though I prefer Cass Sunstein's term "nudge". When it is male victimhood suddenly everyone becomes a lolbertarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:27 AM
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It's bizarre to me to demand command and control in the economy, but complete deregulation in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:22 AM
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It's just another person's neighborliness
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:19 AM
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Government policies (university credential requirements that multiplied after Griggs v Duke Power, resulting in increased household debt). Private companies (Match Group) Cultural factors (Disrespect towards religious communities, divorce contagion, toxic online communities like the one we are poasting in)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:17 AM
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I'm not a doctor, nor do I play one on TV. Those commercials always say "ask your doctor about medication xyz". Drug ads are the banned in most countries except the US, and they should be the banned here too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:14 AM
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Most of the population can't afford to be a SAHM. Most of the population doesn't work in a glamorous professional job, nor did they attend a four-year residential university or graduate school (who were overrepresented among those that marched). Most women seem to be rather unhappy, and indignant that they cannot extract more household labor from a spouse. Which is then turned around and explained as the reason why some men are unpartnered (as though chores can be interpreted easily through an a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:13 AM
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You sound like a jilted drug company executive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:07 AM
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There are government policies that may be discouraging it, private companies that may be discouraging it, and cultural factors that also could be discouraging.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:07 AM
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I'm unsure if anyone ever did a social experiment of a profile that said the woman wanted to wait until marriage, and was coercing marriage on a rapid timeline. As these experiments tend to be disfavored by the moderation, it's unlikely we will see examples demonstrated soon, but it would be an interesting option.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:00 AM
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I cannot speak on behalf of the FDA, which usually seems to be the subject of regulatory capture by the industry. If they say the substances are unsafe, i'm hesitant to doubt them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:58 AM
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Pharmaceutical statistics cause me to doubt this claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:54 AM
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Can is distinct from should. The stereotype of male thirst is based in hormonal reality. And conversely, women are able to use many types of contraception, while men are only able to use two.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:53 AM
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It is an issue for the directionless men that seemingly cannot get into a relationship. It being a "personal choice" is a consumerist mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:49 AM
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The platonic ideal of the "picket fence" nuclear family.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:47 AM
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Attractiveness is not evenly distributed, it is probably a bimodal distribution. Numerous social experiments with dating apps show widespread evidence of "male thirst". Most men, and particularly most of the men that read and poast here, can't be all that promiscuous with women. They can only do this with other men, or purchase the services of professionals.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:41 AM
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Most men can't be as promiscuous as the potential average woman; without paying for the services of professionals. Which in some countries is illegal, and is stigmatized regardless of legality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:38 AM
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Can we strip men of some "rights" ?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:34 AM
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They chose poorly
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:33 AM
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statistically there are more Heathers, and its ludicrous to ignore that, but helpful to accommodate it and find ways of getting her to lose weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:23 AM
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I dunno about you, but I've heard of places called "The Netherlands" and "Thailand" that are infamous for professionals. Not my thing, I find it dishonorable, and so should others. Also heard of something called "traps". Not my thing, but some men are too thirsty for their own good.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:05 AM
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Some would call that "decadence". And they would be correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:01 AM
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Which to a significant number of men would only be possible with the use of "professionals" or Grindr
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 11:59 PM
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An anecdotal example of where Red Pill can go wrong, and "beta game" could produce a better result on paper.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 11:53 PM
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I think you just chased your own tail.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 11:42 PM
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The Han Dynasty of Ancient China was notorious for creating eunuchs. It's not that new as a phenomenon, but the technology has changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 11:34 PM
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I think its the strawman that gave you an ick. I didn't suggest anything that you suggested.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 11:21 PM
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Unmarried men do tend to be a source of social instability. They may not be the ones leading a revolution, but they certainly have the spare time to participate in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 11:16 PM
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Having postnominals doesn't prevent groupthink, especially among a bloc that is notorious in the US for being overwhelmingly on one side of the aisle, to the extent that communists are more common in some faculties than conservatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:59 AM
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We have a central banking system, and inadequate financial regulations; the equivalent for relationships is a religious community and its codes of belief. Making extra-scientific claims is ipso facto religious to me. I don't like the idea of people trying to have the cake and eat it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:48 AM
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A lasting marriage is more conductive to wealth generation, divorce is wealth destroying. Even within groups, the married vote more right than the unmarried.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:38 AM
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How many variables are there compared to the stock markets, or the real estate markets? If your answer is "infinite", doesn't this sound like a religious claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:32 AM
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If we have "Labor Economics" and "Behavioral Economics", I don't see why it is unreasonable to have "Dating Economics", especially when there is a lot of concern from women about the division of domestic labor in marriages. Not everyone is going to be a "dating Malthus".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:30 AM
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Statistically this would be odd. Married men/women tend to vote more for the right wing parties than do unmarried men/women. The average person of age is more likely to be married than not, though it is decreasing. Not everything is like the bubble here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:23 AM
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Outside of US/CANZUK it isn't always the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:18 AM
1

Collaborators existed during the actual war. Some got killed afterwards, some got publicly shaved bald.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 01:58 AM
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Aloha males, heh
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 01:54 AM
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Dominance hierarchies are readily common in primates, and even the most primitive human society has hierarchy. That academics haven't adopted the explicit A/B term (somewhat similar to the Type A and B personality theory from the recent past), doesn't mean that status is irrelevant and the Just World is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 01:51 AM
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what are you thoughts on nature/nurture?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 01:42 AM
2

Wokefishing is said to work, not my cup of tea; but Henry IV of Navarre converted to get the French throne.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 01:01 AM
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I do not subscribe to that pit of insanity. I am trying to draw people out of the pit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:48 AM
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Some say the issue is obesity, but obesity in developed East Asian countries is lower than in North America, and the evidence points to gender relations being worse over there. Some say the issue is pron, but that is illegal in the PRC, and still it has people "lying flat". When women were excluded from property rights and the learned professions, they engaged in activism and networking to change things. Most men are not Alphas, and you cannot out alpha the state. The issues many men face seem t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:44 AM
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In the developed countries, age gaps have been on a secular decline. Contrary to Red Pill wish fulfillment, most men can't really take advantage. Large numbers of men, though hopefully not most, literally do not have good options. They have to make lemonade from lemons.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:38 AM
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I guess some people must like being a "temp" employee, but it always struck me as exploitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:35 AM
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The self improvement hamster wheel has a strong grifting overlap. This is really a situation where men need to engage in collective self defense, and appeal to higher authority for cultural and legal changes. And failing that remove those in authority and install new ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:23 AM
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I concur, but I will not hesitate to note that lots of men are barren of options. And we should take our advice into account for that. If we can help them, we should.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:17 AM
1

"Are we dating the same guy"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:02 AM
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But they still will complain, and in a democracy where they are the majority of voters, we know what happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:54 PM
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I don't advise debt, I advise a strong phobia of debt. This isn't a passportbro thread, and that subject is too far out of my experience. For some men, the best option is not to play, and there's nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:50 PM
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I've never even met you, and you already hate me? I must surely quake in my boots.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:45 PM
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I'm not speaking about myself, but many men, especially a disproportionate share of those here; must engage in settling if they hope for marriage/family. It's not mathematically possible for all men to always have the leverage, sometimes the leverage is going to be with the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:43 PM
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A woman is welcome to pay, some of us aren't attractive enough to get that treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:35 PM
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Lolbert take, literally shilling for a transnational vulture capitalist shell game.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:34 PM
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It is a fairly effective "Strategy", though it also helps if a cooking class is involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:33 PM
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Demanding to split the bill is a DLV. Fine Dining is beta game, and there's no way around it. Pay up or shut up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:26 PM
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The male counterpart from the infamous OKC study was 60/40. So the question is what men are dating in that 40% which they find unattractive, or are they just going their own way?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:23 PM
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Dating apps should be banned
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:13 PM
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Not everyone is in a place to make demands. Some men also don't want to have a woman fake desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:12 PM
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Because some men have bad options.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 10:59 PM
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Neoliberal take
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 10:58 PM
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Civil Damages, and possibly a felony charge depending on additional qualifiers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 10:51 PM
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We also should consider the damage done by Red Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 09:13 PM
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You go back into the 1990s, and the biggest men's movement in the US was a religious group called the Promise Keepers that got the derision of then contemporary feminists. They would be called "Blue Pilled" today. Would some men be better off following the advice of a synthetic "Greg" analogue influencer to the female leftist Green Greta? Would gender relations be repairable?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 04:03 AM
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When everyone is super, no one will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:47 AM
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"Arm candy" "Escorts" "Trophy Wife". Most men aren't Donald Trump or Leo DiCaprio, they can't pursue a decades younger model.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:34 AM
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I have no idea whether it would require an increase in US tax rates or the hiring of additional bureaucrats in the US federal or state governments. It could be written as a "tax credit" or "tax expenditure" or be contracted out. Something else could be cut in the budget. The US is also not the only country that could consider a policy change here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:32 AM
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I don't like soy. But the advice, even if in jest, is somewhat actionable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:16 AM
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While the more religious are likelier to reproduce, they are often not the people in charge of the education system and the culture industry. So their gains just replenish the otherwise demographic decay of the secular population.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:03 AM
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It is worthwhile to note that in a political system which puts gender pay equality as a policy, monetary transactional relationships are not the only "beta" factor. Also included are "domestic labor" and "emotional labor (lol)". A notorious former Red Pill influencer now lost to the outer darkness called it "Compliment and Cuddle".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 02:56 AM
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In the case of men, this "hypergamy" could be termed a "transactional relationship" and presumably been judged undesirable or even unnatural. In the case of it not involving a transfer of wealth/status, it would be termed nonexistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 02:48 AM
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If it is abusive, undesired, leads to a loss of social standing, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 02:34 AM
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